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Previous: >>584952132
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-acknowledges-labyrinth-launch-bugs-and-extends-limited-time-achievement-383494
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I love how much people were praising Midnight and its garbage story on release only to completly turn against it now.

Fucking retards never learn
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>monday heroic kithix pugs
bro is there even a mechanic that isn't "don't be a retard" full stop, how is this taking so long
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> destoryed

I'm so sick of Sylvanas fans holy shit, evil bitch has been an evil two dimensional bitch with a gross sexualized outfit for decades and the second she's front and center and her evil is plain for all to see they go "NOOO THEY RUINED HER SHE USED TO BE GOOD SHE USED TO PET PUPPIES!".

Bitch she fucking threatened to get all the blood elves, her fucking people, all killed if they didn't help her kill Arthas.
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draeneis look ugly désu
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I love Draenei women
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bro really writing ledditblogs with the most generic takes on planet earth
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Why are Blood Elf men like this?
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>>585027021
>waters aren't named
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>>585027124
kinda ugly tbqh
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>>585027001
yeah her burning down the tree was peak and i was all in. finally pushing the rest of the way into ashenvale for resources and driving the elves to the sea. really embarrassing what came afterwards that it was some gay 4D chess
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I hope in the Last Titan they add new customization options

It's 2026 there's no reason for the game to be so ugly and for the character models to be from 2014. My bf can't make a hot character. I want better hairstyles goddamn it.
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-acknowledges-labyrinth-launch-bugs-and-extends-limited-time-achievement-383494

Melvins... ! We have a chance now...!!!
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I still have my tricky treats, is it an EU only bug?
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before first war
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>>585027021
we need to go back and explore the other continents of draenor
imagine the absolute creatures that lived there that the supposedly mighty orc clans could not conquer
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What the fuck is going on with this organic spam?
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What's with this early thread
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Hottest race pairings
> Human men x Human men
> Human men x Orc men
> Human men x High Elf/Blood elf men
> Human men x Tauren men
> Human men x Draenei men
> Human men x Worgen men
> Orc men x Orc men
> Orc men x Blood elf/High elf men
> Night elf men x Night Elf men
> Blood elf men x Tauren men
> Blood elf men x Goblin men
> Blood elf men x Troll men
And that's it all the other races are ugly.
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first war
blue is human/orc territory
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>>585027430
you had a chance the day it was released
you have a chance now just abuse the fire conduit
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>broooo are you SURE you want to activate hard mode? its really hard
>horseman diarrheas forth 6 million circles of damage, lines of fire, massive purple aoe
>stand in all of it
>health bar doesnt even move
okay
let me guess this isnt doing any actual damage either
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>>585026893
remember to save lust for p2!!! it's the burn phase that means you HAVE TO SAVE LUST!!!
>group wipes repeatedly due to their being too many orbs on the third intermission circle
at least we're saving lust!!!
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>>585028084
its easy just pop hero
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>>585027381
>they add

Do you really want them new... bugs?
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>>585028084
updating random holiday gimmicks made before the latest stat squish would cost a aid tier
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>You WILL wear the bald cap
I'm so tired bros
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>>585027381
humanfags pretend humans are the best race in the game so no you're not getting any fixes.
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>>585027913
second war horde purple red alliance
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>>585028091
I'm taking soak assignments as a melee just to reduce the fucking retardfactor from the 12 BM hunters that are playing with AHK macros and still can't look at their screen...
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>>585027493
>Human history

Booooooring, we want Trolls and NE and Old Gods kino
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>>585028392
playing female is the stony path
we walk a road of thorns
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>new rewards for halloween are all houseslop items
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>>585028714
they added too much stuff last year
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>>585028404
damn hordecels really got raped huh
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>>585028714
and no fucking skulls or skeletons
just pumkins and fucking candles
fucking disney family friendly

OOOOOO SKELETONS SO SCARY
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>hundreds of Silvermoon civilians dead because Arator killed a bait aqir and then guarded it's corpse within the city, only noticing it stunk and remembering that he's "read about this kind of aqir" after a crowd of protestors had gathered demanding to know what he was hiding
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>>585028969
If they added a skeleton decor then players would immediately create lynched skeletons hanging from trees on their property.
We can't be trusted with such tech.
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>>585028969
>fucking disney family friendly
its china friendly
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>>585028969
https://www.wowhead.com/decor/eternally-powered-glowskull-26018

theres plenty of bones, slime and shit piles and other retarded shit from the coiled island rep to adorn your mudhut
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>>585029150
whatt theeee hellll am I hearing its justtt partt off the FESTIVE TRADITION noone would do that you are making things up, we want sjkkulls ans skeletons
EVEN KIDDDIES GET SEKELTONS AND WE DONT
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>>585028969
The skulls and skeletons are relegated to the Day of the Dead mini-holiday
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male worgen x female vulpera anal
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>>585029228
>>585029314

>https://www.wowhead.com/decor/eternally-powered-glowskull-26018
I WANT TRADITIONAL WHITE BLEACHED SKULLLS AND BONES
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The Forsaken are racist against skeletons.
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>>585029162
from what i gather, the chinese players view the "nooo dont put the bones and skulls in its too dishonorable and spooky" the same way as most of us view the troon, body type 1 and 2 shit. just overtly woke pandering from a pozzed california company that no one asked for, in a different form
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>>585029508
>from what i gather, the chinese players view the "nooo dont put the bones and skulls in its too dishonorable and spooky"
i'm pretty sure its a state media rule
the ccp doesn't give a shit lol
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>>585029425
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china is not even real lmao you fell for another psyop
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>>585030389
>surplus of males in china
>there are chinese whores willing to be rawdog and creampied for 50€
something does not add up
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>>585030540
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>>585012328
This is true, but more in the sense of lore. WoWF isn't "the actual canon lore where there's no jailor fanfiction" that people like to delude themselves into thinking it is. WoW is the continuation of WC3, like it or not (I don't). WoW IS the canon, even more than shit like Chronicles.
As for gameplay, it doesn't matter much. If Forever is more fun, I'll play that. If Classic or private servers are more fun I'll play those. Doesn't matter much that retail is the "official" one, if it's bad I'll just not play.
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>>585030780
we are talking about the fake state of "china" not korea anon
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>>585030821
who do you think manufactured the big lie
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>>585030818
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>>585030389
support your claim
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WOOOW DUUUDE REAL FREAKING COOL THAT YOU GOT THE RNG HOLIDAY-EXCLUSIVE ONE-ATTEMPT-PER-ACCOUNT-PER-DIEM MOUNT DROP REALLY NEAT BRO
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>>585031175
The american government

>>585031207
>
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What’s next for our friend Orweyna?
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I'm sure Sylvanas had a good reason to burn down that tree
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>>585031441
marrying me
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>>585031448
Yeah nelfs are niggers.
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>>585031273
but where did they get the actors
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>>585031441
passionate hand-holding sex with draenei men
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>>585031448
You might make fun of Sylvanus reason to burn the tree, but this image says otherwise.
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>>585031562
Asian people
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>>585031441
tofu water: the video game character
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Isn't it extremely boring to replay the other expansions as max level? you one shot everything
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>>585027001
Don't worry lil bro, Forsaken Kingdom laid out how they plan to write Sylvanas in the Forever timeline. She will be written as a heroic character, in what will become the canon timeline after TLT.

Sylvanas haters will have to cope hard
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Remember when for a whole expansion we wanted to know the reason behind Sylvanas burning down the tree?
Remember when for a whole expansion we wanted to know the reason behind The Jailor's plans?
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>>585032202
>Remember when for a whole expansion we wanted to know the reason behind Sylvanas burning down the tree?
it was explained in a third party novel

>Remember when for a whole expansion we wanted to know the reason behind The Jailor's plans?
we still don't know that and probably never will because blizzard will try to memoryhole all of shadowlands
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>>585032073

Oh? but i thought you Forevercels said Forever wasn't going to be some marvel shitshow following the story of marvel tier girlbosses?

Now you admit Forever will be nothing but marvel slop?
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>>585028392
Sorry anon but this futher proves why furry women are based and preferred. They don't go bald (idk about Tauren ladies tho so don't quote me on that one)
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>>585032202
Now we have 3 (three) whole expansions where we want to know the reason behind whatever Xal'that is supposed to be doing
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>>585032416
she wants the world-soul, they explain it in this very patch
why? see you in TLT
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>>585031264
I can tell you're an orc
because you're so green
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>>585031678
Let that sink in
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>>585032202
The janitor's plan already been revealed: Xalatah eating azeroth bussy and becoming immortal, thus overpowing the shadowlands
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Hm. If Shadowlands is canon, why hasn't "Hellscream" been retconned to "Shadowlandsscream"?
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I genuinely can't care for Xal'atath. What a boring villain designed for mentally ill heterosexual men. Straights are so pathetic.

At least Jailor had tasty nipples.
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>>585032718
the shadowlands aren't hell, if anything it should be "mawscream"
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am I wrong to think meta-achievements were actually a bad idea? specifically in regards to mounts, adding achievements to collect X amount of mounts basically gave the devs a free pass to throw up several-dozen cheap recolors no one would ever otherwise use behind reputations, rares, and rng daily drops every expansion, knowing players would feel fomo if they didn't grind them out, turning the 'reward' into just another unexciting step in a much larger hamster wheel... am I overthinking this?
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Turning those characters into DKs wasn't a bad idea, but what have they done since? Even back in Legion they didn't do much
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It's insane how fucking bad this dogshit saga has been thus far
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>Finally release a set on the store that can be used for men
>Releases in such a bugged state they pull it from the shop not even 4 hours later
>Days later it's still missing.
I guess they really don't care for men in this game. Toast to another dozen tranny coloured mogs for Night Elf mains I guess.
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>>585032960

Nostalgia bait. Very effective on WoW players.
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>>585032960
what have they done since? nothing lol death knights + bolvar got raped so hard in shadowlands their lore is now tainted forever, neither they nor the scourge will never be brought up again
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>>585032892
I don't think they're good but also who cares, it's just another cheevo out of a million
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I like how they only killed Liadrin to "subvert expectations" because everyone knows they originally wanted to kill Lor'themar.
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>>585032960
They are currently part time security guards at LHC
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>>585032327
Sorry chuddie, Sylvanas is the most popular character in the Warcraft universe, and they will write her right this time
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Even after the raping of her character through BFA and SL, Sylvanas is still a more enjoyable character than any of the Night Elves.
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>>585032202
We want to know what's Xally's plan
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I like watching lore videos so when I play WoW with my bf i can explain the lore as we go on and play <3

I just watched the garrosh platinumwow video to explain garrosh lore to my bf but i didn't understand shit, what a weird inconsistent character, and alliance players don't even see him until cataclysm so we miss his introduction in tbc
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>>585033417
shes the void and wants the emptiness inside her to be filled
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>>585033217
Should've killed Alleria and Turalyon off if they actually wanted to subvert expectations. Or you know, Vereesa.
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>>585032497
>*xalatath is defeated*
>lightforged-construct Liadrin walks up to her and after some extremely saccharine monologuing, asks her why she did everything
>xally look at the camera
>'why...? I wanted to protect you, from IT... if only you knew... the horrors to come...' *turns into dust*
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>AZEROTH IS IN DANGER XAL'ATATH IS AT THE HEART OF THE WORLD!
Reminder that we knew this after the Sunwell, and Orywena is responsible for our troll sidequest because she made Zul'jan go insane with her "actually Haranir are the original species" psyop seminar instead of pursuing Xally immediately.
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ain't you a chipper lookin one
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>>585033830
Zul'jan's reaction to this information, or that it's some kind of insane revelation, doesn't make sense, either. How does knowing that the people who have been constantly killing and warring and colonizing his people were actually related to them 10,000 years ago matter in the bigger picture of things even a little bit??? Also in Legion this was considered common knowledge. The blood elves left a troll tiki icon in the night elve's camp in Suramar with some graffiti like 'your parents' written on it. Also, Elves are usually thousands of years old even if they are mortal now, of course they knew this already
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>8 hour maint
so what're the odds i'll be able to play the new hearthstone expansion before the realms come up tommorow
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>>585034297
Ulatek being memory-holed by the Amani also doesn't make sense, did their descendants never notice the GIGANTIC BRIDGE leading to a GIGANTIC DOOR built into the tallest mountain in the region?
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>>585033639
You're not allowed to kill Alliance characters or else they'll get uppity about the victim complex shit again (not like that stopped them from making Liadrin about themselves)
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>>585033417
we already know her plan skipgod.
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>>585035181

Lothraxion and Void Walker just died.
They were bigger characters than that girlboss tranny Liadrin none of you cared about.
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>>585035640
>They were bigger characters
>don't even know its name
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>>585035739
> T-those don't count as Alliance characters ok!??!?!
> But alleria is totally an alliance character even though she spent all previous expansion being buddy buddy with the horde and forgave them for their genocides in BFA

Yawn.
Horde players hate accountability just like women.
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>>585035827
What the fuck are you even talking about you mentally ill troon? You're pretending "void walker" was such a big relevant character and but you don't know his name lmao.
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>>585035640
Literally no one has ever given a shit about those two. Ever.
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>>585035934

I don't play WoW so why should i know their names? Doesn't take away from the fact they were alliance characters and they died. Like the thousands who died at Wrathgate, like the thousands who died at Teldrassil. All becuase of horde.
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>It's implied that the original story about the Curse of Flesh may well be a complete or partial falsehood, and that the Curse of Flesh may not be entirely a product of the Old Gods, but could well have had its origins in Azeroth's Worldsoul and its influence on beings like the Keepers, Watchers, and Earthen who were converted into Thraegar. The Old Gods may have seized on the Curse of Flesh and corrupted it for their own ends, but they may not be its authors. The Worldsoul itself may have had a vested interest in converting the Titanforged and other entities into organic beings with full sentience and self-awareness.
>Part of the experience recreates Brann's encounter with the Tribunal of Ages in Ulduar, with added commentary confirming that the Tribunal of Ages was a creation of Loken meant to hide his own corruption and that of the other Keepers by Yogg-Saron. Much of the information gleaned from the Tribunal may well be false (such as the origin of the Curse of Flesh covered above). This was previously known to be the case, but Li Li adds specifics that have apparently been confirmed by Algalon to be questionable or false.
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>>585036203
>nu-lore
fanfiction slop
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>>585036021

As opposed to Liadrin who everyone thought was a massive bitch in BFA and you chuds called her a man faced troon in the cinematic?
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>>585036203
It only makes sense. The Curse of Flesh is Good, and Azeroth is Good, therefore it came from Azeroth. Good things can't come from Bad things. That would make my head hurt and make me feel uncomfortable. Good things must be universally Good no matter what, Bad things can never be Good.

This is simple. Simple makes me happy. I'm happy.
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>>585036168
>All becuase of horde.
brown esl
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>>585036275
Yeah but it comes from Li Li
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>>585036168
>>585036338
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>>585027001
>Bitch she fucking threatened to get all the blood elves, her fucking people, all killed if they didn't help her kill Arthas.
Fully justified, dragging your feet on the scourge problem means you already believe you should die.
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Horde players never recovered from this.
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So just how bad was the original plans the story team had when the worldsoul saga is the improved story?
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draenei butt halloween
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>>585037743
faction posting on /wowg/ is probably one of the more forced topics just to get the thread not to 404 considering blizzard troonified the war in warcraft and functionally dissolved the factions
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>>585036426
if she was still a child, i would gladly cuddle up and listen....like this, nah
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when can we finally use transmogs of different classes? I thought it dropped on this patch...
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>>585039003
in like january or something
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imagine the kino de-metzened version of the war within where the last patch was Harandar and black blood Chimaerus instead of K'aresh
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I got to keep it real. I have no friends so this post belongs here. The Forever brainwashing has ended. It's a decent game, but nothing really special. I'm coming back to retail. Do any of you feel the same?
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>>585039003
hopefully never, they need to remove transmog entirely
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>>585039257
transmog hate is all just bait, or boredom
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>>585039257
Bro, transmog is one of the rare eternal kino in this game.
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>>585039810
I hate that you can't dye the armor. It would open up so many options, but you usually can't break the set without things looking funky. Even similar colored armor will be off just enough that the pants look too off compared to the top or whatever.
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>>585039198
Yes, with a really long patch that introduces and brings to life the Haranir and especially that fucking cradle of Azeroth and convergence of the roots of all World Trees, which is supposed to be a legendary place but that we just fly right over without even paying it any attention.

I also notice that many of the “trees” in the region look strangely like the tentacles of the Old Gods. It would have been really cool to see the corruption here.
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>>585039198
TWW should’ve just ended with the Worldcore
Harandar is visually neat but I don’t understand what it or the Haranir add to the story
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>>585040031
America and Japan love clown in their RPGs, I don't know why.
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>>585028404
Why didn't they just wipe out the Amani at some point
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>>585040668
well..
that's a moba
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>>585040031
heroes of the storm yrel looks like she missing a couple spinal dics
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>>585032302
What WAS the reason
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>>585040868
j'lor showed her a magma worm who was sad because the arbiter sent him in a different afterlife than his wife
this convinced her to help him "remake reality" or whatever

no it's not a joke
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>>585041136
They couldn't have done something like he was manipulating her through the missing portion of her soul like a voodoo doll?
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>>585041136
>she j’lor all over my magma worm while i arbiter her afterwife
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Everything will be ok since Metzen is writing Sylvanas again.
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they should add garithos to hots and his trait makes him deal 30% more damage to any non human opponents, all human allies in a radius around him get a move speed buff
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>>585037743
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>>585041658
I guess it’s kind of implied? it feels like a last minute hail mary to salvage the character and make her somewhat “redeemable”
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-trading-post-rewards-datamined-from-the-patch-12-1-7-ptr-383450
ez another free store mount
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>>585038621
draenei butt on my face
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https://youtu.be/Im7ahDkCjM0
OH NO NO NO NO
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Is it true what they say about dark rangers and undead human men?
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>>585042981
It's going to be Different.
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>>585043095
elf women are genetically predisposed to want human husbands, even undeath doesn't stop that
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I'm scared for Bell, bros... if he keeps criticizing Blizz this harshly... is he safe? Doesn't Ion know some pretty powerful, shady people? What if he decides Bellular needs to 'go away'... ?

Bell, if you're reading... stay safe...
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>>585043095

Undead can't have sex, quit being a porn addict incel. And stop self inserting.
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>>585042981
Get hyped for next Forever-like product
>game looks fine at first
>but then you start to notice all the bad things about it
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Why are professions in WOW such a fucking joke?
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New Player Here, where would be a good place to start? Just jumping into WoW Midnight? Classic? I really don't know. I would obviously slow roll it and not try and jump into end-game type content or whatever. Just need some guidance and I figured the experts here could guide me in the right way. Thanks!!
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All trolls and elves are the same saaar

you must now accept mix race marriage with black people saar

also you get extra good points from the WoW grannys if you become trans saar

This is warcraft writing.
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>hey guys new/returning player here with the exact same post as the last four weeks
>definitely not a mentally ill fucking freak just a regular new player of course haha, looking to get into this 22 year old game!
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>>585042981
> They are shutting down the game with 13 expansions and a shitload of content people invested two decades on

Riiiight. And they are doing that because uhhh... manfaced Liadrin died? Lmao
Retards. WoW players pay $100 USD for a fucking videogaem mount they never use, they pay $40 USD for trans witch outfits.

WoW is never EVER going away
It will still be around in 2050, screenshot this.
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>>585043237
He didn't get invited to Blizzard like Xaryu and other streamers so he's free to say whatever he wants and not worry about if Blizzard employees cancel him.
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>>585043745
classic is completely dead and also shit, play retail and then try forever when it comes out and decide which one you like better

or play both
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>>585043984
schizo, you're the weirdo for having this thread open 24/7
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>>585043984
This game is dead and they try to keep illusion that it is not.
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>want to play game
>can't get invited
>gameplay consists of applying to groups for hours
solo q when
this is horseshit blizzard
your game is dogshit, you don't have a game
you have a job application simulator
only faggot fucking blizz shiteaters defend this awful system you've cooked up
it is awful and you should've fixed it a decade ago
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>>585044369
yea as long as s3 flops as hard as this (it will, look at the dungeons LMAO) we'll definitely get m+ soloq for TLT
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>>585044369
>"umm we don't have any plans for that at this time, but it's some the team is considering"
>implements it halfway through TLT when the game is a shriveling corpse
All part of ion's master plan
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>>585036203
Kill every grandma
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>>585044995
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It feels like the WoW story was perfect with the WoW chronicles books they could have just expanded on that or created side stories instead of ret conning it all.
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lord of fire it HURTS
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>>585044995
>>585045154
I fucking hated this tranny shit clogging the loot boxes so much
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If they had just made the GV remove items from the loot table they would've had an incredibly successful season. Mythic guilds would be selling last 2 and players would buy that shit up and just pug the free bosses hoping for vault. Would've had a second full wave of buyers for 12.1.5 on all the maze fotm rerolls too...but instead they said na lol and are hemorrhaging money as everyone quits en masse, make it make sense
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>>585036203
Why must these old hags desecrate and ruin everything
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>>585045841
>If they had just made the GV remove items from the loot table they would've had an incredibly successful season
I disagree, it would be good obviously but it doesn't solve the difficulty issue and the fact that all the good loot is gated behind those 2 bosses.
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>>585045909
>bro actively dressed like an orc grunt
>uh....we are very tolerant
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>>585045725
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>>585045909
The modern day zoomer haircuts of faerin and arator really bother me on a deep level.
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>>585026565
>no thread question

Boooooooo
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>>585046431
you're not bussin unc :skullemoji:
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>>585046431
Oh god, I didn't notice those
To be fair, we've always had modern hair styles like the punk rocker looks on the Forsaken. I like those hair styles though, I don't like the zoomer haircuts.
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>>585031448
She had 4 different reasons depending on the patch.
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>>585033473
god i wish orcs were real
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>Make a character in classic while I wait for forever
>level a bit
>First dung
>Dead server, same 3 people,
>ZERO people doing low level dung
>Don't bother with it anymore

Lol
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>>585046724
The punk rocker hairstyles on forsaken aren't bad cause they're like full hairstyles that seem more natural.
The problem with the zoomer cuts especially faerin is how modernly crafted they are. She has a perfect fade around her whole head with 'scars' that act as sharp defining cuts where hair parts that fade in naturally to the hair.
Like a barber spent an hour using modern buzzers and tools.
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i don't understand how you call the negress' hairstyle the zoomer broccoli cut
it has nothing in common with it other than the fact that negros hair is naturally curly
are you people retarded or something?
thats a wesley snipes cut
Jesus, i'm surrounded by morons
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>hear the TWW recap is a good quick way to level
>just playing through TWW normally is faster leveling and you don’t have to deal with the recap jank
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>>585047471
Who called it zoomer broccoli?
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>>585047969
>>585046431
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>>585036338
>pic
erm, turalyon flying into a chud rage after lothar was cut down was a bad thing actually???
like, he could probably have talked things out with the blackrock orcs and made peace?
common toxic masculinity L
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>>585045909
This read like when people post on reddit "consent is so hot"
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>>585049183
a boy needs his mother
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>>585042981
i swear, this guy is a fucking retard
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>>585041136
does anyone have any of the magmaw "i miss my wife" images? those were kino
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>>585045725
>He doesn't have the disposable income to just buy the shit he wants and play the game
Sounds like you need to grind irl and stop playing video games, champ.
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>8 hour maint to toggle on venomstones and infinite crests
uh
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/rexxar-transmog-pack-returns-to-the-battle-net-store-383500
we are so back
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>>585050649
Finally, the Batman helmet
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>>585050649
>emergency bugfixes, but for store transmog only
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>As Reported by EU Players, Hallow's End Is Currently Deleting All Items Related to the Holiday Upon Logout

One Anon here said his currencies disappeared from his warbank. He wasn't crazy
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>>585051174
That's weird because euros said it was working for them and only bugged on na
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>>585050754
now we need pic related
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Mmmm weren't we supposed to get Yrel this expansion?
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>>585051340
society

>>585051350
no
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i'm kinda new and like... what do i do besides raiding and m+?
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>>585051521
I drive
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>>585051521
Minigame.
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>>585051521
jack it to draenei
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>>585051602
this is a gylenhaal board
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>>585051602
>>585051623
>>585051653
ok? can i scale up the old zones to max level somehow so i'm not oneshotting everything when i want to quest in them?
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> 8 hour maintenance tomorrow
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draenei are just...
tieflings?
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>>585051940
jack it to draenei
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>>585052485
Draenei are wife
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>>585048198
Could you maybe specifically copy paste the broccoli part? All I see mentioned is the modern fade.
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>>585052485
Yes. That's why they were demon before the greatest blessed retcon in worlo history
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>>585052485
>normal feet
#notmydraenei
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>>585052485
they're goats
i like the goats better
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everytime i stumble into a thread it's porn addict hour
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>200+ tricky treats just disappeared from my bags
????
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>>585053481
tricked
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>>585052485
Eredar Draenei roleplayers play their character like Tieflings. Tieflings have done incalculable damage to fantasy roleplay in general.
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>>585052485
Tieflings are the unfinished alpha version of draenei. The one race where the Warcraft version BTFOs the D&D counterpart.
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>>585052240
they need 8 hours to fully unfuck labyrinth and patch in some kind of ability to save your progress so casuals stop bitching about the false advertising
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>>585053913
they need 8 hour maintenance just to fix holiday currency disappearing on logout after it has worked fine for almost 2 decades
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>>585026565
write in a thread question you lazy arse
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every everytime i stumble into a thread it's 6/8 hours
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>>585053754
Draenei are so perfect it's unreal
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>>585054273
it's gotten better over the past week, it was hitting 24 - 28 hours pretty regularly
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>>585052629
well of course, my mistake.
here you are
>>585046431
>The modern day zoomer broccoli haircuts
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>>585054356
Forever's hypnotic hold has vanished with the morning dew.
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>>585054273
That's because /wowg/ refused to let themselves be known as /worg/ anymore and they PERMANENTLY EXILED all the worgposters who give life to the thread
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>>585054757
I think it's because the furrys came back lol
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>>585053481
I ate them
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k mevlins
need your help
how to level up delves so i can get hero items'
im level 5 right now
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>>585053063
anon said draenei art doesn't feature hooves but i think it's the opposite honestly
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>>585054109
>holiday currency disappearing on logout after it has worked fine for almost 2 decades
literal live example of enshittification
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>>585052240
>more humans in Orgrimmar than Stormwind
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>>585055167
Sorry bro, everyone's working on Forever
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Reddit is dooming over the game the hardest I've seen since 2021
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>>585051350
I returned to Midnight hoping for Yrel, but after playing Midnight I'm glad she's not here.
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>>585055304
World Soul Saga has been a complete shit show so far, so
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Are the Draenei canonically tall? They seem a bit tall from their portrayals and models but who knows
Imagine Draenei shortstacks
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New Jimothy content is being added, that's why there is an 8 hour maintenance
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>>585055742
They're like 7-8 feet tall
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when are we getting Ion on stream crying and bowing in apology for the worldsoul saga
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you need 10 venomstones to upgrade each piece of your gear
TEN
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>585056038
get to grinding those humilation ritual sites
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>>585026565
love wowg anons!!!
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this shit is so gaudy man, I can't stand silvermoon
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>>585055742
npcs are almost always about 10% larger than players, up to 25% larger for main npcs. mostly so they can be seen in a crowd a little easier
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>>585055632
>>585055304

>Bad storytelling (but good story)
>not a single week without one hyper gamebreaking bug
>content slop
>unfun classes&specs

This saga is a real disaster and we are forced to play it because they refuse to change
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>>585055304
Planned demolition. Forever is there now to hoover up the jaded retail andys. Blizz mever has to worry about another exodus as long as they just keep bouncing players between different versions all on the same sub.
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>>585056178
i actually did that last season, only on one character because they nerfed it
it took me like 80 runs
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>>585052485
no, they're both satyrs
tieflings are inferior draenei and inferior satyrs
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>>585055742
I like the short, petite draenei, rarer that they are
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>>585056286
That's pretty retarded lmao delves and raids had 100% drop chance
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I like WoW forever it's good
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>>585055798
Imagine a giant Jimothy chasing your around in a labyrinth
2spooky
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>>585056557
reddit is down the hall and to the left
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>>585056475
they did.... after ritual sites got nerfed and they got buffed
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I look forward to an arathi empire expansion once worldslop saga has been pinched off
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>>585052485
hmm didn't think that before
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>>585056619

https://fortnite.gg/cosmetics?id=24677
Heard he was randomly in fortnite for free right now too. Insane the low poly slop we get tossed into our bowl from time to time.
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>>585056362
trvke
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>Xally expansion
>nobody talk about her
>not even porn or meme

Is she the least interesting villain in history?
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>>585056284
I keep seeing this excuse and it's such bullshit. Midnight is just the culmination of shitty writing, a increasingly buggy game and normie players realizing that it's just Dragonflight Patch 3.1.7.

I think it took Forever being announced at Blizzcon for players to come to terms with the fact that Retail is currently an uninspired mess with no true leader to right the ship.
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>>585056848
Faerin's long overdue homecoming!
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>>585056848
forgot my
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I remember reading a fanfic back in the day about some lazy bum Troll rogue that gets a night elf girlfriend whose family line often has genetic throwbacks to the night trolls evolving into the night elves, so she looked like a mix between a night elf and a troll.
It's just kind of weird that kind of shows up years later with the haranir except in the inverse direction
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>>585057025
>uncnite free2poor post
blud im crine...
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>>585057083
That's completely irrelevant to the post but ok.
>>
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>>585057113
rent free
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>>585057057
She's about to pop off
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the ironic zoomer posting needs to stop
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>>585057083
Dragonflight was actually good.
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Dragonshite
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>>585057057
>remove any semblance of sex from the game after the lawsuit
>immediately add in as many gay people as possible
>next villain is such a safe horny elf who shows her feet in every scene

what did they mean by this
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>>585056721
The fuck is wrong with Forever? It's classic but better, you one of those cunts who can't let go of 2005?
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>>585057386
but keep the ironic jaded classic unc posting saar
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>>585054476
Not sure what you have to gain from doubling down on your mistake and intentionally fabricating a quote that can clearly be seen in the link.
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>>585056241
hard agree, I fuckin hate it here man
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>>585057529
Ion the director himself said forever isnt classic THOUGH
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>>585057697
looked better before the update
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>>585057057
>main villain of the expac
>only shows her face twice
especially jarring after she was popped up every 30 seconds in TWW
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>>585057113
I remember her saying her parents are pretty racist way back in Hallowfall.
They gonna learn.
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>>585057529
Forever haters seem to always end up being 1 of 2 things:
A) private server brownies mad some of their private servers got shut down and/or can't afford a WoW sub for Forever.
or
B) jaded retail andies mad Forever is the new toy and looks to be replacing retail for a bulk of the playerbase, also it's existence basically confirms their idea of a WoW 2 is never happening.
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>>585055742
Dwarf men are eye level with Night Elf/Draenei butt
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>>585057714
Classic classic is shit, this is an upgraded version of classic. You cunts need to learn that games evolve over time go play on some private server if you want to wallow in 20 years ago
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>>585057987
Lucky bastards
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>>585057714
gaped the "forever is classic" copelord before it showed its face instantly
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I can’t wait for all the complaining that Forever has no content when most of the playerbase reaches max level
wonder how the “Forever is replacing retail lol” posters will spin it
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>>585026565
I won't be able to play at all this week, is there some kind of limit to how many voidcores you can use in M+ or how many you can have on you? I have 2 now (vault + the dude) and have done enough world content to get one from the vault next week, will I be able to use all 4 of them next week?
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>>585057985
Of course WoW 2 was never going to happen. This is as close as we're getting. Retail are just upset they've mindlessly bought expansions for the past 15+ years and their seasonal slop isn't directly getting fixed. Blizzard is washing their hands of the mess that is Retail to try again with Forever. Good, frankly. There was no saving retail.
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>>585057583
about as much as you have to gain from pretending to be retarded and trying to win an argument on 4chinz
nigger
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>retail hates forever o algo
forever is built for retail players to give it a chance with 90% of the changes, its by design
while classic players just flock to it because the old shit classic versions are now dead and forgotten after a beta (not even worthy of being made fun of)
retail players win twice and classic players win once

In the end wow players win and that's what matters
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>>585057985
I'm going to play both but it's funny how frothing at the mouth the forever base is like they arent made by the same pozzed faggots from california. the lead dev is a fucking woman lmao
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>>585058296
Lol, yes thats the point Retail Andy will expose himself as the sperg he is by power leveling to 60 and crying "no content" before he inevitably fucks back off to his seasonal bullshit.
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After they removed ammo did they ever make throwing axes/knives a viable DPS niche for hunters instead of guns/bows
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>>585058604
they all seem nice anon
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Real answer here is to jump to Aion 2 but you niggers too sunk cost
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>>585059008
I don't like asianslop
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>>585059001
Retail fans chimping out because theres no old ladies in the photo
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>>585059001
how do you figure that
the fat blonde on right looks alright but they're all souless californian bugmen
they're not even real but they have rights and freedom of speech for some reason
they're shaking their fists at God just by their mere existence
its an abomination
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>>585058743
Hunters lost the ability to equip thrown weapons at the same time ammo was removed
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>>585059008
>korean mmo
the graphics are great (and the boob squish is even greater)
but I can just load up virt-a-mate for porn
if you want me to actually play your porn simulator, you've got to have good gameplay and there has never been good gameplay in a game made by a >korean
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>>585059245
Was that Cata or Wrath?
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anyone else have this bugged for the entire expansion in the arcantina? I check every patch to see if they fixed it lol
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>>585059346
cata
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>>585044078
we know retail wont be allowed to die because of cash shop and fomo potential.
but i do see a massive split in playerbase coming with Forever but retail is already dead. i wish i could bring my house with me to Forever.
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>>585059008
Here comes all the anti-other game fags telling you why it is bad to play this game and you should play wow instead
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>>585059372
yes that exact same fucking orb. i did the entire tavern on a different character to get the achievement and decor but the golden dot on the minimap still taunts me everytime on the first character
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>safe horny
>irony poisoned
>andy's
I have antiwoke fatigue
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>>585059785
>retail defenders pretending the game isn't run by a council of old ladies
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>>585058604
I'm sorry you can't accept that a small group of non-faggots actually does exist within blizzard.
>the lead dev is a fucking woman lmao
So? The women i've seen on the forever team like nora are actually based as fuck.
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>ozempic fatty
>based as fuck
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>Extended maintenance so I can binge watch CP
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>Ion makes a statement around the time of DF about how the one failure they can acknowledge from Legion-SL is how the dev team ends up locking themselves into a system over the course of multiple expansions while the feedback turns against those systems by the end of 1 expansion
>Ion still proceeds to agree with Holly and Metzen that the dev team need to lock in and make 3 expansions (+1 14.0 and +1 Forever) with those systems originally planned for Bore Within

Masterful play my game director, I say masterful play.
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Retail defenders are just pissed their 20 year old accounts are worthless. All that meaningless bullshit they collected dust in the wind now that Forever will take over. Sure there will still be expansions and seasonal contnet to milk these retards, but the player base will be split between forever players and retail players who are ashamed they like Forever inbetween "seasons" Not to mention that for the first time in god knows how long this will attract actual new blood to the game
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>>585060560
Unc thinks Forever isn't gonna blow up in everyones face after the honeymoon phase wares off and you're left with the SoD team.
Rmow
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>>585060417
>faggot too pussy to reply to me directly
>triggered over a woman who wasn't even fat losing a bit of weight
Total chud energy.
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>>585059248
Anon if you can get past the gross monetization the game is actually good. The sub is all you need to pay for just like WoW. It's incredibly horny, has a good story, professions/jobs/trades or whatever are meaningful, and the numbers are showing just how sucessful a non-Westernslop game can be
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Trying wow after 16 years.
I can already tell the tutorial is completely different from what it was. No big tree for the elves.
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simps don't deserve (You)s
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I deserve a Draenei wife
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>>585060847
there is no defenders of tutorial island, everyone hates it
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>>585060717
Lil bro thinks forever is going away anytime soon lmao

NOO IT CAN'T TAKE OVER RETAIL NOOO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING TO ME IT HAS TO DIE SOON IT HAS TO IT JUST HAS TO NOOO SAVE ME RETAIL SAVE MEEEEE
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>>585060952
>Lil bro
With those words I need not read anything more. Those are the words of those who wave the flag of defeat.
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>>585057987
>Dwarf PoV
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>>585060847
Yeah they uh lost it again
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I'm going to play Forever for a few months and if it's good I'll just keep playing

If Retail ever releases any cool shit again I'll check out that too

Why does it have to be so difficult for you retards?
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>>585057987
>Gnome PoV
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>>585061129
W-wots on yer mind
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>>585061073
You just said unc you colossal faggot lmao
>NOOOO DON'T USE THE SAME VERBAGE AS ME NOOO THAT'S NOT ALLOWED
>it's okay when i do it but not okay when you do it
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>>585060847
once youve done the island once you can choose to go to the original race spawns on subsequent alts. Its a dogshit island of boring noob review if youve ever played wow before but I can see the value of it if you havent. Hits all the basic notes you need to know to use the game system you will interact with while leveling.

Ive got a gorillion alts and I still use it for races where I dont like the start, like goblins, since at least the ogre island is quick and gives you greens to wear in non-heirloom slots.
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>>585061592
Certified Unc meltie moment
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>>585061283
need draenei wife
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>>585061675
Certified zoomer moment
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>>585061129
>>585061283
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>>585061223
because theyre drama wanking outrage addicts
they are endlessly seeking things to bitch and whine about because theyve trained themselves to get a dopamine high from being pissed off.
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Like events that have me fly around the World
of Warcraft.
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cannae wait for that wrath remix
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I just noticed theres a Forever Gen lol
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>>585062391
it is exceptionally abhorrent
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>>585060950
Meh. So far, it's feeling a bit too silly for me, with the crazy gnome, the hog-ridding, and the black Alliance captain.
For silver lining, I appreciate the attempt of trying to entice me into their tutorial story, with fan-favourite Jaina and some black guy.
>>585061173
Eeh, it's a bit hit or miss, I guess. Honestly though, I'm surprised of finding more people doing the tutorial too; at least 10 people.
>>585061659
Ah, that's great. I admit that it's doing a decent work at introducing the controllers and hud, since it's been such a long time, but one time of this is quite enough. Looking forward to leave the island go the NElve's spawn zone.

bit tired though, so I'll sleep and finish the tutorial later
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>>585059605
I'm sorry man, but Aion 2? I just can't get over the fact it's a dress up barbie / porn game. Seriously, it's so blatant. It's the kind of shit I'd be ashamed to say I play. I'm not even bothered by monetization or whatever it's current issue is.
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IMO I think where they went wrong with the endgame was moving away from raiding being the pinnacle of everything and equalizing multiple forms of endgame content.

You now have 3+ modes where shit competes with each other and it's clear not in a friendly way, either.
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>>585056241
>>585057697
You guys are shit, this is the best capital possibly ever.
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>>585062145
hear me out
MOP2
I'll keep saying it til they listen
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>>585058360
Anyone?
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>>585063163
it looks like vomit
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>>585063072
You just need to gut M+ so mazers no longer have access to mythic and heroic items coming out the ass.
Delvers cap out at Heroic at the slowest pace which doesn't really fuck with the raiding ecosystem.
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>>585059605
It's insane you're bitching about "anti-other game" people when you're posting in the fucking wow thread lmao
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>>585056241
>oh my god it's nice and it makes me feel pleasant oh my fucking god how terrible please give me mud huts, blown out caves, and shit in streets
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>>585063163
It's better than anything post BFA. Boralus was amazing.
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>>585063231
They did gut M+ though, which is why you see Heroic participation going up this season.

And Delves now cap out at Mythic, with Labyrinths basically just being knocking out several delves at once, where you can earn Mythic loot at the vault weekly and also an additional Myth piece every 3 weeks
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what the fuck is this writing? why is zul'jarra hallucinating lor'themar giving orders when she was the one one to say fall back?
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>>585063072
Bimbo'dorei
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>>585063231
Ion you already did this and killed the game.
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hello Ion these are my demands
delete LFR and Heroic Dungeons
make normal raids and Mythic0 Dungeons queue-able
I am not a crackpot
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>>585063381
And if Labyrinths come mid season every season again, it'll still be the slowest way to get mythic items.
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>>585063329
>nobody mentioned mud huts, homo
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>>585063072
raid or die almost killed the game
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>>585057697
>>585056241
Old Silvermoon mogs it unbelievably hard
NuWoW artists are dogshit. There's a reason Foreverfags screech autistically every time they introduce HD stuff.
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>>585063391
Scroll up to where Lor'themar says to fall back first, prompting Dak'zor to do his "someone has to keep this thing busy for the rest of ya" maneuver
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>>585063553
wow that does look a lot nicer and I'm not even a bc fag
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>>585063072
yeah i agree. last time i played the game really seriously until recently was WoD and i was a religious weekly Mythic dungeon runner when they first came out, used to heal on Mistweaver back then and always did. back then it was just MYTHIC, period, none of this Mythic+ nonsense and upgrading gear bullshit is nowadays. gear was either Heroic or Mythic, end of story. then there was Raid Finder gear, Heroic Raid, Mythic Raid. the Mythic Raid was the best gear, period, end of story. that's how it should be
and don't even get me started on the absolute stomach churn coming back and seeing a completely different gear system for PVP gave me
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>>585063553
genuinely so much better and more interesting it defies belief
except for the skybox lol it sucks ass
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>>585063510
That's the devs problem for failing to find a niche for dungeons without making them endlessly repeatable with god-tier loot harvesting.

What's funny to me is people have never stopped sucking off MoP here and everywhere else, and that was the one expansion where dungeons were completely irrelevant kek. Quite the dissonance.
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It's not that Nu Silvermoon doesn't look pretty, it's the simple fact in their attempts to make the city look as neutral and alliance friendly as possible, they lost all the charm of the original. Especially when they should've leaned into making it look more Horde
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Never noticed ilvl bloat like this before, a normie running heroic dungeons aren't even getting to 300? that's fuckin crazy.
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>>585063606
oh I guess I'm the retarded one
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>>585063736
>pretty

does this >>585057697 look pretty to you? I think it's just a mess of towers in bad colors
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>>585063736
The issue is retail assets just look like shit. They're too large, chunky and soft.
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>>585063340
Boralus is possibly my least favourite capital of all time. Getting around that shit was like a maze.
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>>585063715
Raiding is antiquated for the current playerbase unless it's dogshit easy like in classic.
The unc cannot stay lazer focused for 4 hours, nor can he dedicate 2 weeknights to raiding.
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>>585063939
When they commit to the red? Yes. The blue drapes ruin the colour scheme entirely.
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>>585063939
I hate the way they style everything now, all the textures are muddled and faded, everything is blocky and looks like play-doh
old WoW had a sharper-looking aesthetic to it even if it was not realistic at all
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>>585063174
I do think were headed that way generlly with wow. with future expansions being revisits and rebuilds of old familiar locations with new stories and characters.

Blizzard has potentially gotten the memo that people like the "classic" wow locations, EK, Kalimdor, Northrend, Pandaria and such. And that other alien locations are less popular unless they are extremely high effort.

Dragonflight was well received because it felt like a place in azeroth. Shadowlands was not because it felt largely alien and much of it did not fit in the expectations for the setting.

People want to stay on azeroth and they want to see old locations revisited both graphically and in terms of storytelling.
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>>585063163
Suramar?
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>>585063553
>>585063736
I think thats because its a main hub and has flying. New Silvermoon needs to contain all the quests and vendors, all that stuff. It also needs to be more open or else people would cry that they get stuck on random trees.
No flying and not seeing the city from above also means blizz cant just spam pretty towers and building in the distance for the sake of it, taking away the magic away.
And the gold feels more golden, orange-y than in the new one.
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>>585063802
>new players back in the day would understand that you run dungeons until you're geared enough to run raids

>new players now need to decipher this spreadsheet and work out what world event I need to unlock first before I gear up to do M+ or raid but don't bother with heroic dungeons and LFR will make you quit the game
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>>585063553
>omg mog!
>old good new bad!
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>>585063553
That is literally the same except in SD. I guess it's true what they say about Foreverfags.
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>>585063553
>Metzen told world artists he wanted Sunfury Spire to be the biggest thing in the game
>The artists, scared of disappointing him, were doing shit like ripping Blackrock Mountain and putting the two next to each other to make sure it was bigger
>Jeff Kaplan had to tell them "he just wants it to be really big you don't have to go that far"
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>>585063231
>bro if they kill the gamemode that houses literally 90% of the playerbase then I bet they'll all go raiding instead!
holy fucking retard
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>>585064036
Serious question then: What's the point of making raiding as complex as it is when it just seems to appeal to a small niche of hardcore faggots. It's so complex to the point of needing computational addons which spawned its own drama.

Generally what has been the payoff for the broader playerbase? What was the fucking point? This game doesn't even do prestige well anymore. The average player does not give a single shit about anyone running around with Famed titles or Cutting Edge or whatnot.

Classic is easier, yeah, and that might be a strength of the game. It's not only more accessible but also feels more rewarding because the gear you do not doesn't rain down from the sky like it does on retail. It strikes a much more harmonious cord.
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>>585064052
Suramar wasn't a capital though? We were stuck in Dalaran yet again. Suramar is definitely my favourite city altogether though.
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>>585063802
adventurer and veteran tier gear has no reason to exist besides as bloated entry level world drops to get you started doing T8 delves as the real casual content
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>>585064208
>nobody mentioned forever
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the only real problem with new Silvermoon is that there aren't buck nekkid belf whores getting railed by all species in Astalor's basement
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Constantly the same shit we need a new MMO not more wow
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>>585063802
>ion makes gear have 30-40 ilvl jumps per season
>every couple of seasons does random shit like a global 25% health buff
>people wonder why we have stat and level squishes nearly every expansion now
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>>585064272
>What's the point of making raiding as complex as it is
None. They are misguided. I think it's the fact that most WoW lead devs come from a competitive wow/mmorpg background.
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>>585064267
anon they already did that this season lmao

Nobody likes it but they all did it
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how big does your green ween need to be to please her?
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>>585064047
>Dragonflight was well received because it felt like a place in azeroth. Shadowlands was not because it felt largely alien and much of it did not fit in the expectations for the setting.
Lmao

Not a single thing in Dragonflight felt like Warcraft to me. It felt like a cheap Chinese knock-off clone of WoW the entire time. Shadowlands at least had portions like Maldraxxus and The Maw that felt quite Warcraft-y to me. At least an attempt was made. DF was furslop cooked up by women.
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>>585056241
>>585057697
>no contrast between anything, everything just blends together in a boring mute and bland mess
>>585063553
>has good contrast, things stand out and are highlighted without being overbearing
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>>585064267
And killing the Maze is a problem why? The way dungeons are handled these days, especially M+ is what's been killing the world in the world of warcraft. You wanna raid? Congrats, you gotta dedicate some time out your day to go meet people and do shit with them.
You wanna spam dungeons? Congrats, you're participating in what got this game deemed an instance simulator. It's the same shit when people in classic cry and moan because dungeon XP gets nerfed and they can't just spam dungeons all day.
You do raids, you meet more people, you talk to people, you engage with people.
You do the maze? You just turbo speed run the same instances 24/7 until your vault is capped and then cry on the forums next week about loot drops being worse than raids.

M+ killed wow and turned it into nothing more than an instance game. Which is impressive, given MoP had scenarios and even that didn't do as much damage.
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>>585064272
>>585064393
To add, there's also a bit of status quo bias, they may know now that it's not the best decision but keep doing it because they are afraid that any change will make things worse for them.
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>>585063802
I noticed when I went and saw a video of a mythic guild beating heroic ulatek at the start of the season with ilvl 295
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>>585064482
She only dates human men
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>>585064208
weak bait
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>>585064428
>heroic raiding numbers went up because they killed maze
>not because you can get mythic items from it now
gonna assume for your sake that you're just trolling and not genuinely a rockbiter but best of luck
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>>585027001
it rings hollow when
>everyone in the horde are bloodthirsty maniacs except the tauren so the burning of the tree is a nothing burger
>Sylvanas’ grand le evil plan wasnt explained until after they hit her with the villain bat
>the grand evil plan was retarded
>the main orc crying about Sylvanas was a massive pussy coward traitor who failed to kill malfurion and brought the Alliance(????) to try and start a coup
Deport the orcs back to draenor im sick of their bullshit
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>>585063802
I stopped playing at the start of Midnight but I'm thinking of coming back because wow during winter is comfy

I'm confused at the chart, what the fuck is super myth? why is there a 10ilvl jump in raid?? why is there a 50ilvl difference between M0 and mythic raid?
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>>585064680
The Trolls and Tauren have spoken and said the Alliance need to be deported back to Argus for letting their demon masters into Azeroth
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>>585064208
People are so retarded these days it's hard to tell if you're trolling or are actually somehow so blind you can't see the difference.
Is there a phrase for this? Like artistically illiterate or something?
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Blizzard insider here, I work with the other IP's what you guys said about retail being taken over by WoW grannys with union contracts is 100% true. Microsoft can't even decide on what expansions should focus on anymore. It's all very political for WoW since the sex stuff.

The story team is way over staffed and people being hired for being friends of friends or having certain political agendas. All work tickets on WoW get passed around until some poor interns decide to do it. All the political people on the story team got credited for fixing the patch on day 1 with broken bugs just so their performance in the next meeting could look good.

There used to be a bunch of staff who were unfirable because of the legacy code and they would set up traps in the game that would cause the servers to break but most of those have been fixed thanks to Bobby he fired a lot of them and built new WoW from the ground up. A lot of these new down times are some of these traps being set off from those fired devs from a long time ago.

Pretty much the retail version of WoW is this game with a bunch of union contracts making changing the game impossible without tons of union meetings about meetings about culture and making sure no one feels sexually assaulted, server breakign bugs set up by former devs causing this down time and a bunch of people who don't know shit about game design or making WoW and getting credited with good performance by bugs they put on purpose to fix.

Liadrin dying was done because the entire council agreed and she was of no use and too cis while characters like Turalyon/Anduin are not gonna die ever because they all agree he can be used as an ally to press acceptance and pride since so many white male paladin players look up to him.

That's why holly has been chosen to lead Forever WoW and get all the WoW players to quit.
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>>585064748
>>585064617
Anon they are literally identical except your pic is more angular coz there's no textures for smooth curves.
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>>585064646
>Provide players with better gear in Raid than M+
>Players stop playing M+ and play raid

??
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Lots of trannies spamming tonight
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>>585064780
Forgot to mention all the poor performance metrics are blamed on danuser and his foundation. They mention they need to build a new foundation for warcraft now.
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>>585064780
>There used to be a bunch of staff who were unfirable because of the legacy code and they would set up traps in the game that would cause the servers to break but most of those have been fixed thanks to Bobby he fired a lot of them and built new WoW from the ground up.
lol
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>>585063553
looks like shit
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>>585064780
k
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this is what happens when you don't include a thread question, wowg reverts to retard squabbling over nothing
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>>585064850
Yeah just going to assume you're some kind of artistically illiterate. Do you also think the anniversary T2 sets look the same as the originals?
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>>585064887
>Players stop playing M+ and play raid
Not really they just quit the game and the heroic logs are in the shitter.
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What's going on with the wowhead comments? Are they being flooded by Russian bots?
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>>585064780
thanks chatgpt
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>>585065008
No negativity in the dojo
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>>585064850
Anon, the biggest difference between those two are not shapes, hell not even color, it's how those colours are applied
If you're not trolling you must have some eye disease
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Anime always makes me want to play an MMO but it's never as good as it's made out to be...
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>>585063802
the crest / upgrade system was such a fucking dogshit change to the game. Arbitrary levels of complexity / grind, and a way for them to add retarded levels of bloat to how you obtain gear.
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>>585057697
>>585063553
just bright colors good, I guess
forever is doing literally the same shitty blended mess as retail and it's somehow even better?
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>>585064780
>Chudralyon is going to outlive 99% of the wokeslop cast because he's the resident chuddie all the hags hate-flick their wrinkled beans to
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>>585065240
You're pretty fucking retarded if you think lfr/normal/heroic/mythic crests are complex.
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>>585065251
Lighting hides it better in Forever I guess
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>>585065324
it's not complex, but it's bloated and unnecessary. Just let gear have static ilvls, what's so hard about that?
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Why is Faerin on the loading screen?
I have not seen her all expansion
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>>585065363
top mogs bottom so hard it's actually painful

the lack of fog in-between the trees in retoilet is so bad looking, looks unironically more dated despite the higher fidelity tree textures, also actual light sources from the lamp in Forever
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2007 Silvermoon has baked in lighting
2026 Silvermoon expects your GPU to do some insane man-made horror beyond human comprehension RTX slop for shadows
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>>585064997
>>585065107
The only difference is a tiny bit of desaturation. Actually walking around old Silvermoon is such a chore. The trees are literally 2D, like a bit of paper folded in half.
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This just looks like a mess, they were able to make nice looking, complicated cities back in BFA

what happened?
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>>585065251
>forever is doing literally the same shitty blended mess as retail and it's somehow even better?
What the fuck are you talking about? You somehow think riverlands and hyjal look like retail zones with retail blocky soft designs? Are you blind as fucking bat or what?
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>>585065685
no, I'm just not a shill cockguzzler like you, why don't you go back to your thread?
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Silvermoon looks a lot better once the voidstorm skybox is gone, however theres no easy way to just get that. The REALLY need to add a complete campaign skip for S1, I so sick of having the prolasped void anus ruining the skybox on all my alts and I dont wanna run that raid 50 times to fix it.

Also when looking at SMC youve gotta put some effort into finding a nice shot, its so big and there are so many spires towers and balconies that if you just pick a random spot you get chaos.
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>>585065654
It's because it's a revamp. They had to start with an already boomer model.
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>>585065654
Whoaaaa.... This looks just like Forever!
According to total retards at least.
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>In the Riverglades the Horde will meet a clan of Ogres who left the Twilight Hammer and now must fend themselves against the Fellowship of the Horse and Twilight Hammer Clan in the zone.
Ah yes. Ogres, choosing to leave the doomsday cult led by Ogres
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>>585065841
They added a skip
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>>585065841
They will never top Dragonkino and Valdrakken
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>>585065854
forever's so good you spend your time seething about retail
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>>585065908
theyve added several but afaik none of them yet skip the raid section and yeet the clouds
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>>585065841
that still looks fucking ugly

I'm not even a belf hater, I think the eversong woods has nice looking belf architecture. It's just the city that looks shitty
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>>585065520
Cool, it's all those heroic light characters we really care about! Look, there's Faerin, and Arator! Liadrin too, and Anduin (beard forma)! And a judgement pally!
WoW! Amazing!
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>>585065908
you can't skip war of light and shadow
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>>585066017
Beta is over buddy we're waiting for launch. Ironic that you're seething over my comment. Not sure why, all i did was talk like you. That's what you say and look like. You can look at two images of midnight silvermoon and tbc silvermoon and go "hmmm these look exactly the same!".
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>>585066017
retail is so bad you spend all your time seething about forever
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>>585066154
>>585066375
>>585066018
>>585065841
>>585065654
these all look shit diarrhea
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Draenei are so good I spend all my time having sex with them
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>Retail looks like shi-ACK
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>Horde idea of what a capital city should look like
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>Mogs your Foreverslop
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>>585066375
>>585066154
>>585066018
>>585065841
>>585057697
>>585056241
Maybe stop taking pics with a fucking toaster PC, JHC guys get some standards. Don't you all have like 5080s?
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>>585066820
>>585067329
Sorry if this is a dumb question but are these posts satire?
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>>585066820
>>585067329
DF was so good sisters...we didn't know what we had then...
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>>585067496
Anon a 5080 is gonna get like 20fps in silvermoon
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how come a Forever trailer released 9 hours ago has more views than the Midnight or TLT trailer from Blizzcon
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>what the HELL is that DAMN thing? FUCK!
amazing modern writing as usual
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>>585067945
Because retail is stale and moldy while Forever is going to be fresh out the oven when it releases
is this really that hard to understand?
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>>585067945
asmongold audience watched it once
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>>585067329
Narman kun...
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>>585067945
almost all the Forever videos + Podcast are doing huge numbers considering what kind of videos they are.

Hopefully Retail can follow suit and be more transparent/open too.
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>>585068468
>skyborne lore video is the same amount of views as a retail patch trailer

oof
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>>585068468
retail devs have had all their passion drained by the council of hags
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>>585068616
we were warned
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>>585068468
>war back in warcraft

how much do you think the grannies were malding out over this
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>>585068616
I wish a council of hags would drain me...
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>>585068468
wrath remix will have more hype than both of them. whoever decided to drag out this retarded boring "trilogy" of worldsoul saga needs to be hanged
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>>585069174
wrath remix didn't even have hype when it was announced lol
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im sick of janey banning me for no reason

i didnt even do anything wrong
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>>585068807
GIVE THE NARRATIVE TO ME SISTER
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>>585069443
You said the nword
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>>585069372
it did in my head
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Cuddling dracthyr women...
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>>585069443
posted yer tits, too big for this board.
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Wrath remix its going to suck after legion, remix is perfect for m+ and there is no m+ in wotlk
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time to gather the candy in midnight zones
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Talebound hype!
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>>585069443
are you sure spamming that you need nigger porn isn't against the rules
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>mud hutters can't appreciate a city with actual beauty
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>>585069690
legion was boring shit compared to mopmix. how you manage to downgrade a gamemode that much in the span of 1 year I don't know.
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>>585069790
lol In my head the complainers were alliance players coming over from their superior cities. Not orcs and trolls who are probably just happy to have paved roads
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>muh grannies

Is this the new Forever cope?
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>>585069978
People were complaining about the grannies before Forever was announced, anon
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>>585069867
You're probably a furfag
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>>585069957
>alliance players complaining about Red Dalaran
lol no
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>>585070231
wasn't going by expansion aesthetics desu. they removed grindable secondaries, most of the interesting tinkers, all the zone drop transmogs, and the cool mailbox levelling. then closed all the raids except EN at launch for no reason. after a couple days I just left until argus was released.
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It must suck being unable to close your mouth. Even when this guy says his bilabial consonants (like p and b and m), his lips either don't closer or just barely touch.
They should have made the voice actor shove giant plastic rods on either side of his mouth for more accurate speech.
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>>585071364
Who is this character
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>>585070230
Literal coven.
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>>585071451
idk, i just got this cutscene upon logging in. I guess because I just hit level 80 last time I played?
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I turned myself into a snake, Zul'jarra! I'm Snake'Jan!
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>>585071775
Funniest shit ever
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>>585071775
grannies could never write with this satirical poignancy
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Alright, looks like I'm adding Granny and Forever to the filter. Anything else?
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Gushing Grannies Forever
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>>585069690
Wrathmix will get WoW a new sub peak with its 10,000,000 bronze Frostmourne mog
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Scientists have proven that Dracthyr are
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Sterile and way too into feet.
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>>585072805
>and way too into feet.
Mayhaps.
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>>585068605
I NEED to have sex with Tyrant Velhari, Portal Keeper Hasabel and Admiral Svirax
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How do I get targeted gear at endgame that's worth getting? Pants, gloves and bracers. I can't get em in Kindo'jan or other non raid or mythic content. I want to target them but dunno how. I'm like 280ilvl.
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I'm doing all the Silvermoon questlines for the Sojourner chievo and i'm comfy as fuck and the city does not look like shit it looks and feels and sounds *comfy*
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>>585072939
absolute friggin babe
spicy lil nugget
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>>585073124
its literally just helf seethers screeching that both silvermoon and suramar are horde cities.
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>>585073107
I think most people craft their bracers.
Gloves and boots just do delves. It prints champ track which is 308 and you'll probably get hero track at some point.
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I look forward to wotlmix
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>>585073503
Sorry anon, Fjord and Grizzly are going under the water.
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>>585073749
He said remix dumb fuck
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>>585073503
Wolvar will save WoW
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>>585073749
Are they? Or is the rest of Northrend lifting into the sky...?
OOOoooOOOooo...
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>>585072543
NO NEGATIVITY IN THE DOJO
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>>585073124
I thought the Silvermoon quests were the 2nd worst.

Harandar obviously the most shithouse
Voidstorm had some good ones in there, surprisingly for such a bad zone.
Amani were kino
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I really need more art and porn of Tyrant Velhari, Portal Keeper Hasabel and Admiral Svirax
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Look what you've become, you're nothing more than a wretched beast.
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>>585074780
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>>585074780
>better cinematography than anything in the last 3 expansions
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How are you supposed to get Midnight Dungeon Hero when half the dungeons listed aren't able to be queued Heroic?
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>>585075006
sorry anon should have played for like 2 weeks before s1
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>>585074780
Kind if crazy to do this scene than immediately undercut it by having the player be fine under drugs and spend zero time wrestling with the fact they probably killed a lot of people.
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>>585075569
Everyone killed a bunch of people
Not a big deal
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>>585074780
Kind of crazy to go from semi-decent cutscenes with in-game assets to whatever the fuck they've been doing since Shadlands
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What could be...
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>>585074780
>>585075706
before we get any Midnight defenders I'll just add this
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>>585075773
>somehow bigger tits than what we've got
yeah i'd jack off to this
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>>585075805
It's spinning so fast it looks like it's standing still, that's the power of wow females.
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>>585075805
Why even make these cutscenes if you gonna make it shit.
Wouldn't it be better to have none at all than something that makes people laugh with how bad it is?
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>>585075773
hottie on the left
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>>585075706
It's like when Hitman™ went from movie-quality mission cinematics under Square Enix to narrated stills under Warner Brothers
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>>585075773
Sex.
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>>585076163
we have at least one really, really bad cutscene every expansion.

My theory is that they get the main team working on the next expansion by the time of a .1 or .2 patch so only the smallest of teams is working on current patch content.

BFA: Nzoth Raid Ending
Shadowlands: Garrosh Raid
Dragonflight: Emerald Dream Raid Ending
The War Within: Old Lady Librarian sword fight
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>>585074780
He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.
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>>585075773
kino
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>>585076437
i clapped when the centaurs lined up to run a train on fyrakk, then miguel & thomas posed menacingly while holding up a positive HIV test. dragonflight was our endgame.
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do you think the nudevs even know that they reused the name of a lake in the epl for the town in hallowfall?
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>>585077184
an AIDS epidemic would absolutely destroy Dragonflight

The entire cast would be rolling around in Khadgars purple wheelchair
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Sometimes I think wowg is bad, but then I start playing other games and using their general and it makes me appreciate this general a bit more
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>>585076437
I remember people complaining about the cinematic back in Shadowlands and some dev on Twitter said he did it by himself because he likes Garrosh.
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I have been polymorphed by three buckets in a row.
All three in dwarf towns
God damn diggers
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>>585077662
Based, it would have been great if it got the proper cinematic treatment
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>>585077192
Yes and they wrote lore about it in the Chronicles books 10 years ago.
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>>585077728
you can sit when turning in the quest and the polymorph effects will fizzle. unless that's fixed.
also if you're only in it for tricky treats - if you've got a dead housing neighborhood, pull the sea skrog to its portal on your own with 3 alts parked there. Chest only stays for like 90 secs but you can quickly relog and loot it multiple times, bout 20 tricky treats per loot if you include the crafting mats that can be turned in for treats.
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>>585077728
>>585078938
what do you even need with tricky treats that you have to grind that much?
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>>585079014
Me, nothing. I cleared the vendor a couple years back. This year I just grabbed a few hundred treats worth of decor.
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Is it a good time to come back to retail?
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>>585079014
>>585079284

yeah Im just farming them to buy decor, one of everything and then duplicates of a few things like the heartsbane stuff.
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>>585079494
Yes, Midnight is thriving. Some are calling it the best expansion yet.
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>>585079494
there's never a bad time to give the 'toilet a flush
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>>585079494
i got sucked back in by Forever being announced now i have no plans to even play Forever lol
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this seems sacrilegious
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>>585081350
All Saints Day is just an offshoot of Samhain
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I don't remember anything, what my buttons do, what is this catch up story thing, halp
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>>585074780
been meaning to roll worgen but dont want to be a furfag. most of the people i see playing them are just big dog bad ass werewolves and im past the point of giving a shit
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>drustvar again
i just wanna do the cheevos and then not log in anymore hello
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We really need a class only females can play and they just fart and poop
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Holy shit.
I guess Blizz just doesnt even bother banning bots anymore.
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>>585081350
Don't worry, the Light is just some random magic power which can be used for good or ill like fel or void or fire or electricity or literally anything else, and not at all a moral system or virtuous God. You can't sacrilege a battery.

>>585081490
This makes literally no sense, All Saints' Day wasn't commemorated until like the 900s, well after the Christianisation of Ireland, and is celebrated in the Eastern and Coptic Orthodox churches thousands of miles away.
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Highly recommend doing some of the older zones on Azeroth if you're leveling a new character if you want something more grounded. Just went into Felwood at 15 and cleared it. headed to Winterspring or maybe Ashenvale now.
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Trollanons flying over stormwind throwing stink bombs at rpers!
What a cunt!
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>>585082501
did Duskwood like a week ago for that season relevant feel. shit was so cash
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So decor with unusual currency, do you get one and then you can buy more in the neighborhood or do you have to farm them? What about items that drop from a raid, do you have to keep doing the boss over and over if you want more copies for the decor?
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>>585082501
I leveled through my first Alliance character during Midnight prepatch and checked out all the zones I had never touched. It was kino
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>Kaerin Lothar not only is missing an eye, an arm, has a stupid looking haircut in a fantasy world, but has a prosthetic shield for her stump and fights with a cavalry lance instead of a proper spear
Jesus Christ take the pen away whoever did character design for her
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>>585083124
Using a lance as a sword is by far the worst aspect of her. I can roll my eyes and accept the diversity requirement shit but the way she uses a lance is completely retarded.
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>>585082590
Look, if Blizz are gonna let the Horde witch route you around the RPers and their hangout spot in Stormwind, why would I just be tossing them around aimlessly to get the quest overwith.

Get stink'd on!

>>585082501
Always prefer questing for leveling, I generally pick a different expansion each time for variety, especially when I haven't done them in ages.
Admittedly though, post Cataclysm, gone through Vashj'ir a bunch of times.
Apparently I really do enjoy that three-part zone and story a lot, and its gimmick. For the most part, very visually stimulating too.
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>>585082934
Was wondering the same. Don't think its in yet. You were supposed to be able to buy duplicates for drastically less currency once you got the first copy.
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you guys think retail is gonna rebound in TLT from this or is it doneso
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>>585082934
I think if its tied to an event, you have to wait for the event itself.
When its a drop from a dungeon/raid, you just have to repeatedly farm them for the drops.
But if its from an achievement to kill a raid boss or something, I'm pretty sure someone somewhere sells them so you can buy more... Certain exceptions apply, like the little trophies for raid clears at whichever difficulty in current season, I haven't seen anywhere to buy more of them.

I THINK... I haven't looked into it much, but that's the impression I get from having briefly seen some.
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>>585082501
Retail? Stonetalon has a lot of Garrosh if you're Horde. Silverpine has Sylvannas dying
Winterspring and Silithus are mostly unchanged from vanilla, WPL and EPL have big, drastic and good changes.
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i cant find a new guild nobody wants me
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>>585083738
It's hard to say, it''ll really depend on Forevers success. Many here are convinced that it'll be dead within a year but there is such a huge fervor around it and with the way Blizz have been talking in interviews I think they could probably stick the landing.

People are really turning on Midnight though, I can't imagine the next patch bringing people back in and the WrathRemix announcement didn't really generate much excitement. It doesn't help that Retail interviews are just bunch of boring old people mumbling their way through patch notes.

I think players have lost so much interest in the story that I can't see them picking up TLT just to see how it ends. The only thing they could really do is announce Tinkerer or Bard or something
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>>585083738
It'll just go up briefly and then down again as it has repeatedly been doing for a while.
'Rebound' means fuck all these days.
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>>585084102
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>>585084248
>can't see them picking up TLT
no one will pick up tlt for the story but plenty of people will pick it up simply to keep pace.

The nice thing about wow is that it remains a fun game to play even when its story is dogshit. The upshot of the story always being low effort is that the game does not revolve around it.

Frankly for me WoW endgame is now PvP, Transmog, and building my house/ figuring out how to build my guild and charter hoods into a community of fellow wow enjoyers who dont take the game very seriously.
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>>585084485
The entire reason for the Worldsoul Saga is because they want to take the story seriously. You might not care about the story but there seems to be a lot of people that do.

Classes arent as fun as they were in recent expansions, M+ dungeons have been bad and we've just had the most unfun raid I've done in like a decade.

>no one will pick up tlt for the story but plenty of people will pick it up simply to keep pace.

Pretty sad state of affairs.
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>>585084731
WoW was best when the world was the main character.
Trying to make it some sort of dramatic narrative about people has always been a mistake and the game has gone to shit every time they tried it.
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>>585084731
dont care about story at all but i cannot fuckin deal with how sick i am at the current df/tww/mid game loop. its stagnated beyond measure with no signs of any passion.

also almost every class feels bad to play now
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You guys clown on vulperagay slopper but those who know, know his ERP game is immaculate. He’s the CE/rank1 equivalent of furry ERP
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>>585084820
I think any competent writer could make a compelling dramatic narrative with a core group of champions + the player.

The problem is we have there people >>585070230
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Bros, i haven't played since bfa, just returned and got to 90. What's the progression threadmill in midnight?
My guess would be
-single player dungeons and finishing the questline
-heroic dungeons
-lfr
-normal raids/ mythic dungeons
-heroic raids/ mythic +
-mythic raids
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>>585085079

here: >>585063802
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>>585084954
>could make a compelling dramatic narrative
could but they shouldn't.
The devs job its to provide the setting and to provides adventurers for the players.
The players are supposed to be the characters of little stories that they themselves create, by playing the game.

roleplay optional.

Vanilla wow did not have an over arching main story. It has self contained story modules for the players to engage with and complete.

the long fight against the scourge in northern EK. war between the alliance and horde in Kalimdor. Silithids coming up out of the ground and fucking shit up leading into AQ.

WoW doesnt need a narrative if anything it needs space for the player to feel like they are part of the narrative and that it will not progress with them. as it stand now with the player being basically the lore character non canon attack dog I feel ZERO imperative to progress the story, since to my concern, the lore characters are who do that anyway, im invited to their show but I dont want to be a background character in their show I want to be the main character in my own show that I wrote with the tip of my own sword.
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>>585084820
idk. I do agree that small events (classic, TBC) suit the premise of MMOs better but I remember being really annoyed that the big lore events weren't told in-game.

Then on the flipside, if you look at post-WotLK writing, pretty much every campaign has a "surrogate MC" because the writers still do not know how to write stories with the world or army of players as focus. Surrogate MCs like your Thrall, Tiron and now Arathor.
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full veteran gear is all you need to do everything except Hero/Myth raids and M+

the endless gear treadmill is a containment system for numbers spergs.

Sane players just disregard it.
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>>585033830
>"actually Haranir are the original species"
What was the point of this from a meta perspective? To help bring the trolls and elves together?
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I don't have Midnight, yet I'm still gaining level exp, why is that?
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>>585085409
to make their donut steel race more important than they are

azeroth will be a haranir mark my words
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>>585085369
I find myself dying still in champion gear in the open world on dps classes. maybe I just used to tanking shit but they feel like wet paper
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>>585085260
Did you really write all that text
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>>585027001
Yeah I don't know where this weird memory gap/revisionism came from.
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I hope we don't have a stat squish in TLT. It's a big threat expansion and we're going to be at level 100. I expect TWW numbers at least.
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>>585027001
>Bitch she fucking threatened to get all the blood elves, her fucking people, all killed if they didn't help her kill Arthas.
I remember that, Lor'themar was like dude... what the fuck
Not a bad short story desu
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>>585085161
Damn, that's some nice gear i can get by doing dungeons with Valeera. That's based ngl. I'm playing mage so i'll try her as a tank or healer.
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>>585085409
You will play Kingdoms of Amalur.
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something feels really off with brew.

im absolutely invincible in 11s, but then sometimes one of these poison mobs like the nemesis or one of the flag packs hits me with one of the ulatek abilities and i lose 50% of my health instantly even with stagger up, but gain no stagger damage.

anyone else feel like brew is bugged against some of these attacks?
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trollanons favorite quest
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>>585084975
hearting back home to the orc bvll
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I know this is just a schizo coincidence, but my traveler's log has been broken all month forums got ignored, support tickets just got closed with no response, I post in /wowg/ yesterday and I wake up today and it's fixed

So on the off chance the tech jeets are lurking thanks I guess
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>>585090349
There are definitely Blizzard employees ITT sometimes desu
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>vaults done
>kinda want to keep playing but not sure what to do with reset coming up
hmm
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Do realms matter?
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>>585090492
For crafting requests only, unless that was removed in midnight
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>play MM
>get kicked out of pugs for low dps often
>don't know how to improve anywhere since I'm literally doing the exact openers and rotations from the online guides and tryhard lists


what do? I know alot of people are overgeared compared to me, but I shouldn't be doing this low at 321 vs a 331. It's pissing me off because its wasting my time more then anything to get kicked out of a raid after an hour of trying before they lose morale and start blaming the dps.
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>>585090492
not as much these days
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>>585090543
plug a log into this
https://wowanalyzer.com/
i dont know if it works for MM
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>>585090543
For AoE fights, are you making sure to cleave your aimshots/rapid fires with trickshot/volley?
I could see that being a big difference, though I only really play MM in PvP
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Oh wow, you can make dracthyr a different class now. Which ones have the least broken animations? lol Also is it still 1 drac per realm?
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>>585090543
MM is fucking weird
You can do everything correctly in BIS gear and still have 100k less dps
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i kinda like hpal
it's braindead as fuck and has passable class fantasy
fuck maining it though, i want to ahve a fucking interrupt
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I wish we could go back.
I wish we could have these guys still making retail in 2026 and forwards.
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>>585090590
It doesn't. it hasn't been updated since 11.0.5
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>>585090543
They fucked it further in the latest patch.
I would guess some pvp faggot was whining about the automatic arcane/kill shot added to rapid fire.
MM is just garbage now, beastfucker wins again like they always do, because zero cast time, zero difference between single/two/thee+ target and short CDs.

MM does damage only during Trueshot, which is 2 minutes, i.e. too long.
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>>585090803
I've seen people do top damage with it, but I have no idea what they're doing. I got trained enough to only do rapid fire and steady when I move/have to move. But it doesn't make a difference because theres always like multiple people ahead of me by far. I want to swap to BM to just see how easy racking DPS up is compared to MM.
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love worlo!
love wowg anons!
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hearthstone into forever
goodbye season 2 retail
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>>585090619
Mythic+ I do fine in. It's raid thats the culprit. I cannot no matter how perfectly I play, keep up with the rest of the DPS and I end up just getting kicked out of my control.
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>>585090492
OCE, Latin and Brazil are on different servers and different pings.
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>>585090785
>Which ones have the least broken animations?
dunno but non-evokers can permanently stay in visage forms even during combat
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>>585091171
>I got trained enough to only do rapid fire and steady when I move/have to move
Uhh no.You want to follow each rapid fire or aimed shot with arcane (st) or multi (aoe). RF empowers your next 2 aimed shots so ideally you RF>Arcane>AImed>Arcane>Aimed repeat
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>>585091171
>I follow the guides exactly
>I only use my builders when forced to move
This complete retard newbie act is so tiring man, why do you keep posting this shit?
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>>585092165
>>585092664
I know that, I'm saying when I move I still cast move abilities on command instead of nothing.
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>>585092726
Yeah RF>Arcane or explosive if you have it is good but steady is not a bad idea if your energy is low
If you know the fight wont last long enough for 2 uses or you know you have some leeway before the second use you can also save the font of venomous rage for movement (if you dont have it and voracious heart you better start rolling ulakek)
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>>585092937
I have both, but I haven't scored any heroic ulatek gun. I had been running with a champion ula gun, but I got some heroic mast/haste bow from a mythic so I've been using that for the time being.
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Why is there 8 hours of maintenance tomorrow? Is something coming out?
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Can I level in previous vanilla zones or do I have to use the Chromie Time thing?
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>>585093068
How are your stats? Lacking 10 ilvls is massive but if your stats are good its time to start checking warcraftlogs fight by fight. Sort by heroic and check casts for 2 or 3 top hunters with no PI. Watch the replays if you have the time so you can see positioning. You want to see if they are saving cooldowns for specific moments. And note that it isnt universally agreed upon whether to use arcane shots or not during the opener. Personally I outdps the other MM in my group during trueshot windows because I dont use arcanes at all. Instead I'm trying to squeeze as many aimed shots as I can. Most top hunters arent doing that and the other hunter catches up outside of trueshot windows because im bad
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>>585093271
Nothing is coming out tomorrow but they have to fix all the jeet coding from last week's 8 hour maint.
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>>585093330
pre-cata versions, not on retail
Cata revamped versions, they are capped at lvl 30, Chromie time raises their caps to 81
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>>585091969
>like the human customization options for dracthyr
>still have to see their hideous furfaggot model on the character select screen every time you log in
Is this what troons feel like looking in a mirror every day?
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>>585094392
Post some good porn and I will
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>>585090543
don't play MM it fucking sucks
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new player here
do realms matter
can i lvl in vanilla zones?
or do i have to use the chromie time thing?
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Wait
patch today is another 8 fucking hours?
What the fuck?
Theres no content.
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>>585096681
gotta extensively test the new shop mounts :)
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>>585027493
There's a nice europa universalis 4 mod set a few years before the opening of the dark portal.
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>>585096613
kinda
yes
not necessarily
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>>585096613
very rude
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>I need to farm 100 mythic+ dungeons for my main and alt.
surely this won't go live.. right..?!
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>>585096835
HoF is full and you're not pushing 1% or .1% it literally doesn't matter man
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>>585097179
I am pushing for m+, actually. currently working on resil 20, half way there. non meta class, I intend to at least get 1% this season.
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>2 hour blitz queues
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>>585057697
This would, unironically, look 10 times better with the forever lighting.
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>>585097538
battlegrounds are completely dead they need to have some sort off reward to encourage casuals to do them, a once a season reward for them would fix it easy
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https://youtu.be/fs9ueeZArm4

it's so over man
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>>585097365
>I intend to at least get 1% this season.
You're killing the last 2 bosses on mythic right?
Good luck finding people after November when Forever comes out
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>>585098594
my guild is still going strong and we intend to clear coiled and ula tek by dec holidays
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My augvoker can't focus in a dungeon unless you cum in his slit.
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>>585064547
I meet a lot of nice people mazing, nearly to resi 19 as tank and i got a whole roster of folks to ring up for group and raid fills that i know aren't just gonna bail at the first error
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>>585098693
horrible mental image
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>>585097179
but but im gonna fall behind
i cnanot fall behind
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If you're not going to kill the last 2 bosses on mythic is it even worth going for the 1% mythic + mount?
I got it last season but I'm pretty demoralized this season.
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>>585098693
delicious gooey treat
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my male vulpera NEEDS pozzed up tauren loads
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>>585100213
open up for a supercharged hightauren load
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>Fabled Kindo'jan extended by 1 week

I love blizzard so much now, it's unreal
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It's over
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>another 8 hour maintenance
my poor little white dicklet won't survive a goon session that long
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>>585100823
same energy
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>>585101046
I play alliance btw
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>>585100823
oof, been a while since I've been hit with such a strong uncanny valley effect
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>M+
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>>585101046
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>>585102598
on the hunt for boipera sex slaves
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How many bites does a worgen need to eat an entire gnome?
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>>585058360
bit late but now I know it's uncapped unlimited powah
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>>585100823
>no zoom on feet
damn cameraman
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pls blizz gib cool derg customs pls I beg
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>>585103469
Looks too much like Warcraft dragons for the art team
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>>585103607
I forgot that the game is not about me, my bad
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Glad you could bake it, Uther
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>>585088373
I'm feeling pretty damn small brain tonight, you're gonna have to explain that to me.
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>>585103469
what could have been
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>>585104119
Why did those buff dragonkin types only have girly voices in DF?
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>>585104429
You know why
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you now remember the months of kicking and screaming by parse autists when power infusion was added back
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>>585104573
No I don't.
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Is there a way to browse random neighborhoods for the felwood/drustvar/duskwood themed quests?
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>>585105630
Go talk to the main neighbourhood elf/tauren people about public neighbourhoods, pick a plot that's empty and you warp there to go take a look around.
Or if your friends/guildies aren't in the same neighbourhood and don't hide their plots, you can visit either of theirs right clicking their name in your lists.
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>>585105786
Thanks but how did you know I have no friends or guilds??
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>>585104429
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>>585105941
You're in /wowg/, nobody here has social skills to retain such things.
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>>585106038
hag council is the theft of joy.
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every single female raider i had over years on argent dawn guilds would end up either using sex toy or get groped or fucked during raid, so she would spam mute and some just didnt care. wtf is wrong with females on rp server. do that shit in free time, not mid raid
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>>585106110
Ok as long as you're not gangstalking me
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>>585106038
If that's what current writer team looks like, why there are so little fat orc and troll characters in the game then? I thought we are an inclusive diverse community
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>>585106038
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>>585106485
>Horde characters
Ummm...... yikes :\
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>>585106038
in the end, they won
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>>585106038
Council of grannies will decide your fate
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>>585106038
Everything good eventually gets corrupted and destroyed by fat old women.
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>>585106038
>Stickney: Horseman of Elfcraft
>???: Fat
>Cotner: Horseman of Disneyslop
>Hamilton: Horseman of Senility
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Why is Vereesa such a fucking waste of a character lmao
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>inorganic campaign pro WoWforever is dead

So predictable and so boring
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>>585107262
nobody has ever wanted to do anything with her, she was invented purely to give knaak's self-insert a hot elf wife. it's funny that 2/3 windrunner sisters were only made up because alleria was unavailable though
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>>585107262
>hardcore Alliance member
>It's okay to murder your own kind for the Alliance!

I think she's based as fuck
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>>585107262
I like how they completely abandoned the whole Silversun Compact shit before the launch story even finished. Zero presence in the two invasions of Eversong since formation and their building is completely empty except for 3 NPCs staring at nothing like a level designer lost interest after starting on the building and never came back.
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Is the talebound thing coming out today? Is that why the maintenance is so long?
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>>585108016
It's not out for months, the long maintenance is because the game is falling apart from all the bugs
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>>585107262
They don't know what to do with her since they never added high elves to the alliance
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when is retail getting the forever water/lighting
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>>585108415
>when is retail getting the forever water/lighting
coming with WoW 2, trust the plan.
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>>585108415
We don't need the game looking worse.
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>18 hour thread

This is what you get for removing the thread question
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>>585108713
here is a question for next one: do you like World of Warcraft?
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>>585108415
Why would you want the game to look and run worse?
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what do I think about the mid of night
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>>585108415
desu, I don't care about that. I don't want useless superficial stuff in my RPGs, I want substance. I want content.

Stuff like that are only made for twitter/reddit, you post a screenshot, the devs pop up saying "thank you it was so difficult to do but we did it for you because we love you, we love WoW, we love love" and that's it.

Where are all the posts about the quality of the new quests? Of the new characters? Of the new gameplay? So far we had posts about fog, lightning, water and that's it.
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>>585108016
The long maintenance is for the new shop items
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>>585109085
you can do both kupo
stop being silly
the people who do the lighting arent the same people who make the content
kupo
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>>585108924
Yes and I want it to be better
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>>585109213
You can't answer right now wtf, question is for next thread only!!!
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>Players will switch between Retail and Forever during downtime
>immediately creates a fomo event for Retail during Forevers launch window

Are Blizz retarded?
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>>585109434
They also added fomo moggies to forever already
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>>585109434
>creates a spooky minigame
>releases it in December

Yes they are
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>>585109434
>Players will switch between Retail and Forever during downtime
more like people are quitting for Forever and not coming back
if Forever ends up being a flop then they are just leaving WoW altogether, not rushing back to retail's increasingly broken slop machine
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>>585109434
Yes they are. Their marketing department is maybe the most retarded in the ludokino universe
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>>585109434
They need the numbers for both retail and forever for investors even if it's the same players.
>300k forever players
>these same 300k forever players go play retail after leveling
>it makes total of 600k players when you do 300k + 300k :)
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>>585109637
desu Winter season is far more spooky than autumn season
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Tauren Tuesday thread next please
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>>585109792
It's literally unironically this. Capitalism is the most retarded (and lethal) invention in human history.
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>>585109434
I think they’re just sending the Talebound mode out to die, it’s been in development for like 2 years now and it got such a bad reception at BlizzCon, especially coming after Forever
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>>585109862
Halloween?
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>>585110121
chinese dont like Halloween.
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>>585109792
the fatal flaw in this plan is that Forever players are most definitely not going to login to Retail after
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>>585110008
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>>585110121
>>585110179
I mean, the United of USA is literally the only place on Earth to do Halloween. For the rest of the world, autumn is literally the comfy season
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>>585109792
honestly if the investors are that retarded, they deserve to be scammed.
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>>585110179
How does that make winter spookier
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>>585110286
Azeroth celebrates it though so it makes sense to have the spooky game mode in the spooky season.

You’re telling me it wouldn’t fit perfectly into the event they’re doing right now?
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>>585110286
What the fuck you mean, Azeroth currently has pumpkins over every inch of it and you can do trick or treating in a disguise
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>>585110286
Everyone dresses up around Halloween and goes to Halloween parties around the world, remember that insane Halloween party in Korea where like 150 people died by being crushed or something.
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>>585111217
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>>585111217
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