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FAQ
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...
>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.
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I just beat mission 9
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I forgot this shit is designed to facefuck you if you fast
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Comfy slice of life doujinshi when?
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>>585047563
how about a horny slice of life doujinshi
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>>585047562
8's railguns are babyshit compared to how dangerous Excalibur is on Ace.
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Use this as the OP next time, i'm not asking.
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>>585047606
This is a Hug Combat thread anon! No horny!
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Why bury things under so many layers of menus? Why can't I just add emblems in the plane select screen before sortie?
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Does bomb splash upgrade make SFFS circles bigger?
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>>585047720
Easy to navigate menus aren't very yamato damashii, anon.
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THE NUMBERS COPE, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
>>585047720
Its the PS1 japanese game experience. What, you don't like nostalgia bait ?
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Thanks for bred anon
Continuing playing air combat on phone.
It consumes surprisingly little battery.
The game is rather difficult, I'm playing on hard and running out of fuel or missles is a real possibility.
The starter F4F is shit. The thing stalls If I try to do a loop without going full throttle.
The targeting UI squares seem to be compensating for the lack of resolution. It makes me think the modern ace combat could do with less. I'd at least like to tune down the thickness/brightness of our green squares.
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>>585047657
i mean 7 and 8 on ace are easier than the ps2 games on normal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHKcYt3ostw
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>>585047662
>Baxter
>I'm not racist, but...
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The whistle and whip noises in the game version of Hortus Regid Alti are awesome.
>>585047790
I believe it has a separate part to make the actual cluster munitions make a bigger boom.
>>585047924
They're easier overall but they compensate by having a couple of missions that have some crazy difficulty spikes. Still easier than 4 or Zero on Ace though.
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LASM is fun I love LASM
Sea of Chaos is my favorite mission
Is 18F the best LASM plane in 8? Need something that can do another thing after the boats are dead in Warfare
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>>585047853
>The game is rather difficult, I'm playing on hard and running out of fuel or missles is a real possibility.
>running out of missiles
Have fun buddy, but realize that you don't NEED to kill everything on the map. That, or pick better firing angles.
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>yrw you get to burn down a Belkan village
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Planes with no tailfin just look wrong, it's a worse offender than those wingtips
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I'm not cleaning my plane
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_S-70_Okhotnik-B
AC9 will have drone buddies.
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>>585047790
The general bomb radius part increases the radius of the spread
The SFFS/SOD-specific part increases the radius of the bomblets
I like to take the +bomblets part to increase stacked damage though
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Is the "must have been your mom" line from mission 10 briefing after Nikolai explains the tonitrus spear tech a genuine yo mama joke or was it a script oversight because they intended tasha to be there but the story got changed later?
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Reminder that those guys deserve your respect.
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total nugget death
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>>585048023
>Is 18F the best LASM plane in 8?
Yea, unless the database is wrong on what planes have it for whatever reason.
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>>585048135
Kate would be the kind of gal that would bathe you if you were being that stubborn. Probably makes sure that Coster and Tasha brush their teeth and clean their rooms as well
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>>585048319
<<Wanna try the wagon wheel?>>
<<It's an outdated strategy. Could it work?>>
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>>585048142
I don't want to have drone buddies, I want to be the AI in the autonomous drone.
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Your wingman for AC9
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>>585048319
Somewhat similar aura, though it's hard to beat
>it's time to pay the piper
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>>585048319
Nah they're still Sotoan thus targets to be erased.
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how the fuck did a country born off the back of pastoralism even get this advanced
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>>585047657
>Weapons on a mobile platform are less powerful than stationary weapons.
Many such cases.
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>>585048687
Capitalism, ho!
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>>585048687
Letting techbros build data centres on their land.
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God damn retaking Theve II looks so incredible, those explosions and fire reflections on the water, man
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>>585048023
One of my few complaints about 8's missions is the lack of a good "Smash up a fleet for 10 minutes" level. There is that one level where the Baxter thing happens but for some reason you can't skip guiding him back on replays which is annoying.
Give me more Maritime Strike PA, my F-2's hungry for more Kuzzy-classes.
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>>585047720
Apparently it's a JRPG trait to have tons of convoluted menu layers, and it's supposedly a common UI design trend across a ton of Japanese multiplayer games too (I hear Mobile Suit Gundam: Battle Operation 2 referenced a lot). That doesn't make it any less annoying though.
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>>585048956
>I hear Mobile Suit Gundam: Battle Operation 2 referenced a lot
GBO2 has a more functional UI than AC8. AC8's UI is impressively fucking terrible.
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>>585048349
That sucks, they should have put the LASM on the F-35 or something.
I guess I go LASM / 4AAM with LASM range, low altitude, and flare abilities and just try to point farm ai and not die the whole time?
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Why are wingman drones called "loyal" wingman drones. They're just wingman drones. They have no loyalty. There are no backstabber wingman drones either. Are they called loyal to make them easier to sell to shareholders/congress?
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>>585049037
F-35 has LACMs, which are probably mostly as good for ship sinking.
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>>585048023
Problem with LASM is that LACM is so much more versatile and far more useful 99% of the time. Plus the aircraft that can use the LACM tend to be absurdly good.
Like not even kidding LASM does less damage, has less explosion radius, and the aircraft that carry them carry less ammo vs LACM.
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>>585049094
>Are they called loyal to make them easier to sell to shareholders/congress?
We've had a near century of fiction about computers/robots/AI betraying us before technology actually advanced enough for that to be even remotely feasible. Catchy names are 100% about selling an idea to ourselves just as much as selling an idea to the public.
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>>585047837
I thought for sure with the obsession with numbers and calling shit out beyond the AWACS detection range it'd turn out you were both recovered and turned into a schizo with a neural chip full of transferred memory engrams or something. Was not expecting fighter heaven where everyone turns into ghost birds.
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>>585050297
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If spam LAAMs at me like a bitch outside of combat it is personal and I'm coming for you
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>>585049308
>>585049472
Alright, I guess I'll try out the Rafale LAAM LACM meme. Thanks anons
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>>585048859
Also how fucking vast is this city
If you live in a suburb 40 miles from downtown can you really still claim you live in Theve
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>>585050465
>turns away and starts running when youre closer than 8km
What now?
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>>585049308
LACMs get 4k more range, 20 more damage, and larger damage range over LASMs in exchange for a 2 second longer reload. They fuck pretty hard.
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>>585050878
I always assumed LASMs had a specific buff against ships, do they just do a lot of a single target damage?
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>>585050674
I'm willing to throw the game
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>playing alone
>win Warfare once
>"nice, let's do one more"
>immediately get matched against a full party of compfags from AC7's PSM scene, and they make a beeline for me the moment we spawn
>they then proceed to 3v1 me every time I respawn
Very cool, now face the wall
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>>585051062
>Have three fighters on you for like 3 mins
>Still lose
I wonder what the fuck my team is doing during that always
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i didnt know i would love railgun warnings so much bros
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The worst parts of the campaign were those retarded moments where dumb cutscenes teleported you behind an enemy and then you shot them with your gun in SLOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW MOOOOOTIIIIOOOOOOONNNNNN.

What the fuck was with that garbage? It was extremely jarring and felt like yellow paint.
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>can larp as fake Mafty
Pretty funny
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>>585051367
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Going back to 7 to fuck around and I do have to admit, 8 is a pretty big visual upgrade. I didn't realize it at first but the plane models in 8 are way fucking better. They're much much sharper and more detailed. In particular most ac7 models sort of give up past the surface, but in 8 you can peer deeper into their intakes, trusters, wheel wells, etc. and see a whole ton of extra gibbins. Hell, landing gear itself is leaps and bounds ahead in the detail department. Is it worth the huge performance hit? I dunno, but it does look really good even on low.

The other thing is, holy shit, the filtering and color grading in 7 FUCKING SUCKS. Ac8 is mostly pleasant neutral and warm tones, ac7 is so fucking BLUE. Everything has this cloudy filter of blue or green pasted over it at all times. It feels like I'm looking at the game through constant light fog. I don't remember it being that bad.
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>>585050965
They do get a 50% damage buff against ships turning base 80 into 120, which is more than LACMs. But the latter's blast radius makes it way more useful as a general A2G weapon, and ensures that even if a ship manages to survive its deck will be cleared of any weapons. Still, LASMs fuck ships REALLY hard.
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>>585051395
>forgot image
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>>585051197
>after killing me, they move onto other teammates, and they die immediately
>by killing people sequentially, they keep their opponents' score multipliers down
>because of this, you can't match their rate of score accrual because their attacker can farm unmolested
The moral is to never sortie without all your buddies if your MMR is high, because a random might have committed unforgivable sins like not having a Lvl. 20 plane equipped or not having a plane that perfectly synergises with the rest of the team.
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:D
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>>585052081
yo jet got a skinny dick on its nose
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>>585051394
Yeah what the fuck was that? What did it add to the game?
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>>585051895
Does the game actually have MMR? I think it just randomly marches you with whoever
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>>585051579
The performance hit isn't due to the plane details anyway, it's mostly due to the lighting and cloud techs.
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>team lets enemy chase me down with impunity for half the match
>lets the enemy attacker farm for free
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>>585050659
Is it even larger than Toronto?
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I only care about winning Emergency Sorties, which is why I own the metafag Su-34 and EA-36. Will probably buy a Su-25 once I can free up 10 gold blueprints though. I haven't failed a Chandelier since release week using just the Phantom or Fullback, but DT's shilled that thing hard enough and it'd be nice to fully level all three memepod planes.
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>>585051895
Good thing I have neither high mmr nor buddies :D
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How does this work? I just want 50 more for the weekly.
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>>585052591
You need something with 1500 base cost for the weekly mission, Total Cost doesn't count because it factors in parts costs.
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If you fly ESM jets you're worse than a Sotoan.
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>>585052709
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I'm a Sotoan and I fly an ECM jet.
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>>585052356
It does have MMR, because
>queue times increase as you win
>if you win enough times and queue again, the game may fail to find matching opponents and restart the queue
>opponents consistently become more challenging as you queue (I've never met metafags or known compfags in my first match of the day, but I would after winning)
>>585052591
You need a plane with a base cost of at least 1500 for that weekly. That 1450 (is it a Su-34?) won't do.
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>>585052930
It is a cute gripen
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>>585048687
While it's never explicitely stated, it's probably fair to say they either were colonized by the Yukes or were significantly influenced by them through the 20th century...
Well Uzbekistan still managed to build (at low rate) IL-76s in the 2010s so it may not be too much of a stretch that they had an industrial basis that Enso invested in

>>585051579
AC7->AC8 is a bigger visual upgrade than ACAH->AC7 desu
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>Mole schizos only come out to graffiti the planes like goddamn gnomes or to scare the shit out of people with gunshots
I love these guys.
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>>585053942
Such a silly plotline but such competent retards. These guys were probably the first to sign up for UPEO because it meant sticking it to the corps.
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>>585053942
>Iran has an underground hangar full of Phantoms
Is that real?
Why is there a random sign that says "think before you act" in English?
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Can anybody help me understand the following plot point?

In M21 Nagase says the Osean public is in favor of going to war. Baxter says if that happens then Yuktobania will get involved as well.

So I was like "hell yeah, we're getting the gang together and we're going to crush these mother fuckers. The world is on our side."

But then Baxter says that if that happens (Osea gets involved and then Yuktobania) the war will drag on longer and that they need to end things quickly. DD also loredumps that Enso wants Osea and Yuktobania involved to make the devastation bad enough to permanently dissolve nations on the continent.

If the FCU has more allies the war will either be equally long or shorter. More fighting power on the side which is going to win is only an advantage. Osea and Yuktobania getting involved would only make the war longer if Sotoa was about to win, which was not the case by this point.

This appears in multiple locations (including one of the most plot important cutscenes in the game) so I don't think it's a mistranslation. The only way this makes sense is if Yuktobania is expected to intervene on the side of Sotoa.

But that makes no sense. The last significant interaction between them was a war. Sotoa only industrialized and ruined their land to counter military threats from Yuktobania. Tasha and her dad have no qualms about fighting Sotoans. Yukes seem to get along fine with Osea after AC5 and are basically not assholes anymore, unlike Sotoa who are definitively assholes.

Nothing indicates that Yukes and Sotoans would be allies. But Osea and Yuktobania getting involved only makes the war longer if one of them is siding with Sotoa. Am I misunderstanding something or is this a weird plot thread?
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>>585054372
Yea its real. They use it to hide from burgers.
>Why is there a random sign that says "think before you act" in English?
Probably set up as a warning to America to not attack them (didn't work).
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>>585054372
wait until i tell you about who's the only country who ever bought F-14 from the US
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>play assault for the first time in almost a week
>spend the entire game watching LAAMspam rape the skies before i can get anywhere near enemies
>barely get to play the game
I missed literally nothing by not playing this fucking dogshit.
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what was the civilian casualty count and damages cost of the land battleship in Theve
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>>585054503
I think it's implied for some reason that the superpowers will want to occupy the ex-FCU territory which will lead to territory clashes and a new osea-yuke war.
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>>585054674
civil contractors are valid
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>>585054503
Osea and Yuktobania are rival superpowers.
The Yukes would side with Sotoa not because they like Sotoa, but because they need to oppose everything that Osea wants by default
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>>585054674
less than what happened in france the last few days
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>>585054372
Yeah https://www.tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2023/02/07/2849772/iran-air-force-unveils-underground-base

They're not the only ones, the swiss have F-18s inside mountains lol
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What's the mellow rock song they play here called? I assume it's a game original, did they record a full song?
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>>585054503
You're getting the cause and effect mixed up. Enso Order wants a longer, bloodier war so the Oseans and Yukes get sucked in, and in the middle of reconstruction they take over. Usea winning or Sotoa winning is less ideal because there's an intact government in control, backbroken governments requiring intervention from concerned but ultimately less concerned superpowers lets Enso slip in, progress rebuilding Usea as they see fit, and entices the superpowers to leave because things are "fixed" and they no longer have to care.
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>>585054891
It's just the base version of Song of Wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INRfyju1dQk
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>that cringe ass video of Lindsey Stirling version's of Hortus Regis Alti
I hated this bitch since her skyrim video. I've rarely seen someone being so fucking overrated.
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>>585055152
I was shocked to hear she got commissioned, she used to be fucking huge but I legitimately haven't heard of her in like 10 years
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>>585055152
How long has it been since she was relevant? Fifteen years?
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>>585053531
Pretty!
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Bros I love this game.
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I get the PS2 era nostalgia thing, but I'm really not impressed with AC8s visuals
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>>585054503
The FCU was clearly winning by M21, the Sotoan presence in usea depended on the battleshsips and they were gone, the FCU was quickly advancing nd less than 2 weeks later they'd be retaking expo city, with their plans to disable the spears they were expecting to be winning this war within a few weeks, then sign a treaty with Sotoa (well taking down the spears turned out to be a bit more difficult than expected), the involvement of the superpowers at the very end of the war were understandably seen with worry and skepticism by useans
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>>585055337
>>585055347
Apparently she's doing good, normies are eating this shit up.
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>>585055383
I love (You)
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>>585053942
Death is a lonely road
WE SHALL RAM INTO THE ENEMY
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The multiplayer is genuinely so fucking dead and gay.
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>>585055383
Love you too buddy
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>>585055383
Fellow hopecore based anon
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>>585055383
I know anon, its good.
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>get the same missions over and over
>with people using the same planes over and over
This is just groundhog day.
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>>585055750
why hide the names of a bunch of randoms
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>>585056225
Why not?
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>>585056225
I usually don't bother but felt like it for whatever reason.
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>>585054503
Did some thinking and it takes a few mental backflips but here's a funny, potentially true resolution.

We know the FCU has been around since the mid 90s and their capital is Theve (in the north). We don't know exactly how big the FCU has been over its history, but at the very least it has probably always been in the north.

In 1997 Osea offers an alliance to Usean countries in the south. This pisses off western and northern Usea so bad it launches the Usean Continental Chimpout which requires Scarface 1 to do some kneeling on the rebel's necks.

Over 20 years later the "IUN occupation zone" (which is pretty much just the Osean military) just so happens to be all of these southern Spring Sea Treaty nations. Background chatter indicates that during the Lighthouse War plenty of Useans supported Erusea's actions and pretty much the only ones who didn't were the ones who wanted economic assistance from Osea.

Theve is not in the IUN occupation zone. Osea supported ISAF which the FCU basically organized but pretty much everybody was a part of that (including North Point which has been staunchly neutral ever since). Meanwhile some of the FCU separatists states are for sure in the south (Rio Bajo/Southern Wiapolo).

So it would be funny if Theve and Oured have been at odds since 1997 and Osea is actually planning to side with Sotoa to support its traditional southern allies. They even talk about how Osea's plan is to sneak in a "hospital ship" then rearm it once in country, which kind of indicates something sneaky or sinister.
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>>585056921
This would actually make some sense. There's no reason to assume that Yuktobania is friendly with the Sotoans considering they've gone to war with each other 20 years prior. Sotoa's war with Yuktobania is suspiciously timed with the Circum-Pacific War (perhaps launched in support of Osea or with their conniving?). Osea's had designs on Usea so it's not out of the question that Osea was really looking to intervene on Sotoa's side, and Yuktobania would forestall the ulcer in their flank by supporting the FCU.
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>>585056921
FCU took part in WW2 and the Endurance is a veteran of WW2, so they've gotta at least be nearly 100 years old.
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>>585055398
Thank yoy for remindong me to finish that game.
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>>585055383
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I've yet to see a single person publicly host a Scramble or Sortie
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>>585058868
I've hosted 3 today.
They fill up quick so you gotta get lucky
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>>585051394
AssHor reference. Hopefully it never goes further than that.
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>>585058868
i got into 3 scrambles yesterday from the party finder
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>>585051394
Normies really, really liked it
So i can tolerate it for now
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Anyone else surprised the Endurance survived the whole game?
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>>585061512
No, but also yes. I like that the old girl survived, but I think it would've been impactful for it to be sunk at some point near the end.
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>>585061710
The near miss with the sub was a good fakeout though, I thought for it'd hit.
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>>585061512
I figured it might survive since they already did the Kestrel before
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>Endurance is probably going to be scrapped rather than turned into a museum ship
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>>585047562
how the fuck does it even come down from space? Its fired from a tower on the ground
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>>585062134
it hit for me, multiple times even, at least tell me MGP will make the sub immortal and only normal guns work.
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>Farbanti
>AC04 Farbanti OST starts to play
>Fuck ye- ONLINE MATCHMAKING HAS ST-00022020FUCKYOU
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>>585048687
iirc their country quickly modernized, which is why the whole love for the nomadic lifestyle is still so prevalent; it's within living memory
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>I'll be out of your hair soon enough, friend.
>CERTE! PER CAELUM VOLA! ESTO LIBER, OH ESTO LIBER!
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>>585050659
welcome to Anglophone Urban Planning™
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>>585062457
Isn't AC7 Farbanti better since everything is high poly instead of PS2 graphics tier for some reason
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>>585062331
Mirror satellites in space
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>>585062992
>is that... PROPERTY OWNERSHIP FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS? I'M GOING INSANE!
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>>585063264
oy vey stop being antibelkan
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I normally never touch MP in any game.

Can MP emblems be applied in campaign mode? I really like the emblem system here but it feels a bit limiting to only have AC8 emblems, I like sticking Galm and the like on there.

I did briefly see they had girly nose art up in the online shop and if you can use those in campaign mode I'll deal with all the MP I need to.
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>>585062958
>moon 11 gets her second wind and Hortus Regis Alti starts playing.
Absolute CINEMA.

Mark my words. M29 was the end of AC8's story. M30 was an epilogue that set the stage for the DLC.
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>>585063986
>war isn't actually over
>Enso Order/GR won't stop until the Endurance is destroyed and DD is dead
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>>585063816
>I did briefly see they had girly nose art up in the online shop and if you can use those in campaign mode I'll deal with all the MP I need to.
Yes every emblem from MP can go over to campaign. They're mostly paid or in lootboxes though. The pin ups specifically cost 250 funbux, which means you'd need to spend at least 5 dollars to have enough to buy them.
>>585063986
I can't wait to hunt ancap cryptobros.
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>>585063816
>I did briefly see they had girly nose art up in the online shop and if you can use those in campaign mode I'll deal with all the MP I need to.
>Buying the AI slop
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>fucked up the spoiler award
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Do I even fucking bother or do I just save up for the F-15C? Even with the increased zoll gain this is so miserable.
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>>585064179
>I can't wait to hunt ancap cryptobros.
DLC point destruction mission where you attack an Enso Order data center and Amazon warehouse complex.
Enemy radio chatter involves enemy pilots being updated that their stock portfolios are being decimated in real time.
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>>585063264
>2026
>property ownership
>middle class
have you been living under a rock, anon?
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>>585063067
Yeah but AC4 Farbanti theme is amazing.
The perfect combo in Farbanti Warfare is the AC7 & AC4 themes together
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>>585063986
Yeah, I've been wondering what they're going to do for DLC. More info on the Sotoan-Yuketobania war is what a lot of people speculate but Enso remaining so cryptic and basically getting away with it even after everything is kind of a blunt or unexpected way to end things.
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>>585064481
>shoot down a merc fighter
>they go down screaming <<TO THE MOON!>>
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>>585064426
F-15E is one of the best attackers in the game, along with the Su-34. Regular Eagle-C is cool but having a top tier attacker is super useful for present and future Emergency Sorties.
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>>585064426
Max out your planefu anon
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>>585048687
Since Sotoa is an anologue of RL Mongolia, sotoa was probably a satellite state of cold war era yuktobania just like mongolia was buttfucked was Soviet Russia and communist china
So its not unreasonable that Sotoa was rapid industrialized from their nomad pastoral society by a super power like Yuktobania like
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>>585064489
And in toronto no less, lmao
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>>585051394
Assault horizon will never be a memory youll get your shitty zoom-in slow motion shoot mechanic back in AC-9 and youll LOVE IT!!!
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>gunning the cockpit does work
Mission Status: Fucking SICK. I really like how many different ways you can kill the Podarges, Project made committing TOTAL SOTOAN DEATH so much fun.

Now to see if it works on the Celaeno.
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Being teleported around after a cutscene is genuinely the worst.
Happens after the Shark Squadron cutscene too.
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>>585064562
Yea, I guess I should. I'm still just so bored and the thought of leveling up another plane fills me with dread.
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>>585054503
For Yuktobania the fear i assume is Osea establishing a continued military presence in mainland sotoa in the case osea would push sotoans right of the usean mainland and into their homelan which is right next to the yukes so i assume they would want to prop up a battered sotoa as a buffer state
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>>585065230
Well if your next plane is the 15C, you'll be getting into a lot more dogfights with other players, which should spice things up a bit
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I wish tasha died instead of baxter
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>>585065012
I am curious what unguided bombs do to the Celaeno.
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lmao
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>>585065552
I have to admit, the emotional impact would probably have been superior. Bonus if she gets war crim'd as she's hanging with her parachute.
But thats not very hope core coded.
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>>585064529
I had an idea where a Yuke-Sotoan war DLC reveals Tasha's mom was also kind of a fraud pilot, because she isn't actually the one who shot Moon 11 down. Or alternatively, just have us play as her mom. She could be a mute autist where the DLC is framed as Mr. Seversky is telling Tasha the stories because she doesn't like talking about them herself. Or it's Assault Horizon 2: The Strange Real World.
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>>585065012
>bullets just bounce of the Celaeno's cockpit
Understandable.

>>585065704
I'm sure they work (you can bomb the Arsenal Bird in Online), but going off the database they'll only tIckle it because GPBs and Bombs do only 10% damage to Celaeno targets.
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>>585062269
Endurance was already a museum ship larper, thats why tasha and her dad and DD were aboard the ship when the war broke out they were filming some propaganda shit with the endurance in the background Hell DD probably rented Endurance on behalf of ensoorder for the propaganda film
Old lady will probably go back to being a museum piece they rarely wheel out
>Endurance was confirmed to having laid down on WW2
>Aces project confirmed WW 2 on strangereal
Motherfuckers wheres is my goddamn WW 2 ace combat game
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>>585065831
>was also kind of a fraud pilot, because she isn't actually the one who shot Moon 11 down
The old pre-phone/pre-web war propaganda? Had something like this in mind.
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>>585066148
>Endurance was basically the Battlestar Galactica
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>>585065831
>Inb4 its just blaze again because the Sotoan-yuke war took place alongside circum-pacific war
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>>585065808
The whole mentor dying for the student to grow trope has been done enough, it would've been a nice subversion for her to die instead. You even see something like that with ventus and gemma. Although funnily enough coster is the one who seemed to get his shit together not tasha.
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>>585066254
It didn't. Happened prior to the events of 5.
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>>585065552
>>585065808
>>585066286
I'm gonna be honest, I wish no one in Joker squad died but the only way that work is if you kill Kate so you have the older mentor figure still die. I'm sucker for the setup personally but I also feel like having a Joker pilot die was too predictable.
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Having a bunch of DLC missions that explore various conflicts throughout Strangereal might be an interesting idea. Perhaps it is "the rise of Enso Order/General Resource/Neucom" that's been in the background the whole time.
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>>585066451
Yeah, they should have killed two.
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>sprint in the player hub is left trigger
I'm convinced everything about the online was designed to piss you off.
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Wait a fucking minute was Nikanor in office during the Soat-Yuke War?
>>585066186
Yeah maybe it could be a fuzzy recording from a 2010's era cell phone that shows two planes with it framed as though Tasha's mom is flight leader. Or Yuke high command is just inflating her kill count ala the Soviets during WW2.
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>>585066451
The Sotoa-Yuktobanian War, also known as the Sotoa-Yuk Conflict, occurred sometime around 2010 between the Republic of Sotoa and the Union of Yuktobanian Republics
>sometime around 2010
>2010
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>>585066546
They should've killed all of them and have rex go on a one man rampage
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>The only pure co-op modes are complete gambles to even get unless you feel like refreshing a party list over and over again
>The other options are either AC PvP (lol) or a """co-op""" mode that's been so utterly min-max'd already that it's a complete slog to play
>And also matchmaking on said co-op mode is so fucked it takes upwards of 10-20 minutes to find a single 6 minute game
All I wanted was a semi-decent online mode...
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Would've been cool if the game ended with Rex dying the same exact way Cope did with you playing that mission as a WSO leaving the conflict ALMOST resolved
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>>585066736
I kneel, but i would miss their glazing too much. That would have been a sight to behold tho. Something similar to mission 20, you just go all in alone, beast mode activated.
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EA-36 players are the most worthless loser fucking niggers this game has to offer.
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>>585067023
I just got it myself and I want to be a loser too. What's the best build for it?
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>>585067206
You find the nearest bridge and jump off of it.
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>>585066681
Well yeah, prior to the events of 5 which started in October 2010 and ended on Jan 1st 2011.
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>>585067249
cope
and theve
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>During this time, a secret organization began devising a scheme to renew animosities between the two superpowers as the ultimate revenge for Belka's defeat at the hands of Osea and Yuktobania in 1995.
>Yuktobania
But they weren't even there????????
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Unreal how nobody ever does anything about enemy attackers doing this, but I'm ALWAYS hounded the entire fucking game and never get any help.
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>>585067764
>cope
>and theve
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>>585067794
Su 34 is known for its ease of use, you can fly around and sometimes explode the ground with no effort whatsoever
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>>585067023
>Make EW their own class
>There's only three of them and one of those completely invalidates the others to the point where you're basically throwing for using them
What *did* PA mean by this
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>>585051394
>everyone HATED this shit in assault horizon
>hey what if we randomly did it like 3 times in AC8?

what were they THINKING?
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>>585052496
did anyone else expect this guy to be the the mole

then to be surprised it was just some literal who
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>>585068026
>implying
Barricader is EW for shitters.
ECM completely counters IEWS; no one gets missiles. Then, since your ESM and ECM aren't coupled together, you activate ESM with the Growler's Lv20 ability to give your team super missiles while the enemy team only has normal missiles
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>>585068360
Or, back in reality, you die on the spot because you're in a shitter meme machine
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LMAO
My team actually responded to my pings for help for once and made half their team rage quit. Clouds are hilarious, you just fly in and out of them until the guy either gets smoked by your team (provided they come to your aid) or gives up. Dude in an F-15C got smoked by me once and then alt-f4'd after being killed two more times by team mates.
I would assume that they just d/c'd but I watched him explode and then 5 seconds later this happened.
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>>585068216
The problem is they're taking you out of the game, moving you around the map to fit 'the story', and generally fucking with the arcade aspect of Ace Combat. This game is not CoD, it's got its roots in arcade cabinets. I don't really give a shit about the story after my first playthrough, I care about how high a score I can get for each mission.
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>>585063986
Am I the only one that thought Moon 11 was a total pushover after Shadow 22?

Crimson 1 really ruined boss fights for me with how high a bar he set
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>>585068640
Tewy was a massively more fun fight than fucking topkek.
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>>585068026
Should've classified Morgan as ECM
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>>585068640
Tewy actually respects your missiles despite the unfair aircraft advantage, Toprak doesn't
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>>585068640
Shadow 22 was fucking ridiculous, just fucking doing cartwheels to "dodge" your missiles. It wasn't hard, it was just cheap.
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>>585068350
That literal who gave you your helmet when you first reach the Endurance

>>585068523
>here's how to counter the thing you're assblasted about
>no I will just continue to bitch and moan
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>>585068932
This takes more time than the actual missions.
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>>585066191
Would have been tragikino if the Enso sub DID hit the Endurance at the end, but rather than killing everyone on board, it did just enough damage to the ship's load bearing structures that she's beyond saving, sinking slowly enough that everyone gets to depart for one last time and watch her go down at a distance. One last circle with Joker flight around the Endurance before she disappears forever, kind of like Admiral Adama did with the Galactica before departing for Earth.
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>>585067794
I always go after the one plane wandering aimlessly by itself. Killing the ground pounder and wiping their stars at least once is absolutely critical.
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>>585068694
>>585068773
>>585068863
>>585068872
>stunts on your usean ass without some uber experimental gen 7 attacker

Nothing personell, Wings
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>>585068216
It's way less bad in this game. I think they just wanted to show it still had potential. Instead of being an integral part of combat you were forced to engage with, it's just a quasi-cutscene QTE that is pretty much impossible to fail unless you're trying to because lol Tasha death.
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>>585069093
This won't bring back your nuggets.
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>>585068350
I thought for sure it was going to turn out they had a backdoor to all their devices and it was everyone's fault that still had EO tech like cellphones or whatever.
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>>585069207
They all went to the promised land (I am not coping).
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>>585069207
The Yukies could probably conquer Sotoa in one day after how badly they got raped, theres probably not a single combat pilot left in the country or even a single fighter craft
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>>585069321
They are all looking up at you from HFIL
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All I want is a Warfare's number of targets but for a 4-man co-op mission. Is that too much to ask for ;-;

It's so fucked up that Warfare is a better ground pounding experience than Assault
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>>585069321
Do you go to the promised land if you kill yourself with your own gun after being shot down ?
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>>585068360
What the fuck are you talking about? Barricader gets like 20 IEWS, and it's like a 5s cool down, them spinning in a circle a couple times lets them pop it again, and then you're dead again. Having them split off from each other is meaningless when the cooldown is basically nothing for IEWS.
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>>585068640
>Crimson 1
You mean worse pixy? Sure it's cinematic at the end but crimson does not compare at all to any of the ace combat ace fights
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I appreciated the few Sotoans lucid enough to realize what was going on in M28
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>>585069614
he's talking about gameplaywise I think
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>Ace Combat 8 DLC campaign
>it's about stopping some conspiracy by Enso / General Resources that seeks the elimination of all borders and total corporate takeover, which would lead to the AC3 dystopian timeline
>final mission where you are about to take out the big bad guy and stop their evil plans forever
>ENTERING ELECTROSPHERE
>Director of the simulation thanks you for helping them collect data on how they could be stopped, so they can prepare counter strategies in the real world
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>>585069614
They're both good for different reasons. Crimson 1 is fucking insane and his projection is hilarious.
>but crimson does not compare at all to any of the ace combat ace fights
This is just a fucking retarded statement.
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>>585069746
and the last mission is fighting the AI assassin designed to counter you?
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>>585069828
Close enough. Welcome back Einhander
https://youtu.be/dTng0WSZhh0?si=niV5eR2YS76DFGiq
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>>585069614
Gameplay wise hes godly, cinematically its insane

And hes become a total monster and he LOVES it

Its an excellcnt boss fight with some great music as well

https://youtu.be/bh85GHBe6xY

Beating him on Mercenary is my proudest Ace Combat achievement
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>see posts from normies having a hard time with the land battleships
shit people are really bad at this game
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>YOU SOLELY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
>also your WSO is a whore
How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>585069719
Gameplay wise it's a good fight.

>>585069749
He has no presence whatsoever and just isn't as interesting as pixy
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>>585070085
>no diffs you with zero damage
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>mfw your health bar pops up next to Crimson's because you're his boss fight
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>>585070190
>anon can't relate to a character unless he sees his face
Sick of you autistic retards trying to tell me about characters tbqh
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>>585070268
Shit's on the same level as Asura's Wrath final boss having his own QTEs and failing them when you start beating his ass. Or the final boss of Transistor having acces to the same mechanics as you. And starting first. Very cool trope.
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>>585070085
>*jousts you with guns over and over until you're swiss cheese*
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>>585069489
At least admit you've literally never played an EW craft in this game before you spout bullshit.
>20 IEWS
Irrelevant. You literally don't have the time to pop all of them. You don't even have the time to pop all 10 ESM/ECM of the Growler
>5s cool down
You have a 16s gap of no-IEWS before they can pop it again.
>pop it again
The duration and cooldown of IEWS is exactly the same as ECM. When they pop IEWS you counter with ECM, and both of you are back to guns.
Also, since you're talking about multiple uses, that's several minutes of real time, during which either team can have backup arrive. Difference is, your team will get buffed missiles during the gap in enemy ECM, while the enemy team will only have normal missiles during the gap in yours.
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>Moon 11 starts saying you solely are responsible for her defeat
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>>585070016
No wonder they didn't have any gimmick missions like 7 and made most of the missions annihilate. Normgroids fucking suck at plane games.
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>melts you from narnia with a gay ass laser then runs you down with MPBMs to do the last 5% of your hp
very fun game design thank you PA
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Is MGP really that great for carrying Chandelier? Be honest
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>>585070772
Having to move around in a 3d plane with restrictions seems to filter a lot of people
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>>585070939
>Be bad
>Cry and shitpost
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>GOD JUST SHUT UP
>SHUT UP!
>NOBODY ASKED!!

>YOU THINK WE ASKED SPECIFICALLY TO FIGHT YOU?!
>DO YOU THINK I CARE SO MUCH TO KEEP FIGHTING YOU?

>SHUT UP!
>JUST SHUT UP
>FIGHT US. DONT TALK. I DON'T CARE. SHUUUUUT UPPPP!
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it's like looking into my very own Mirror of Erised, I'm going insane without her
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>>585070963
It fucking SHREDS the armor
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>>585071018
D-, apply yourself.
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>>585068350
Naw that Yuke glowed and it was all but confirmed when he stays behind while Tasha almost leaves the ship doubly so when he can just make a phone call and scrounge up Sotoan military secrets
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>>585070963
the main problem with chandy is how most of your attacker planes machineguns aim down, MGP should be very effective for barrel run but I haven't tried it out myself, not like the game allows you to lab emergencies so its trial and error I guess
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>>585068350
>did anyone else expect this guy to be the the mole
actually yes
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>>585071137
there was no chance the comfy asian dad would be the mole

Meanwhile Jenkins is forced upon you as a friendly guy and throughout the first half of the game he asks a LOT of questions, but I guess it was just a red herring for some guy
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>>585070416
No like even without a face he just has zero presence whatsoever he's poorly implemented. He has a good final boss fight but it falls flat in terms of story because there's just nothing there connecting you to him

I think PW fans are insane
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>>585071137
I mean his wife was the top Yuky Ace and probably still works as an instructor so it's not like she won't have connections.
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>>585071052
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>>585071550
shitty proportions
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>>585071463
>just nothing there connecting you to him

You mean besides him and his squadron being a constant thorn in your side and him being responsible for twice snatching victory from your grasp by vaporizing the cities of Cascadia?
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>AI gooner slop
You. Solitary.
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>>585071603
>constant thorn in your side
They show up like twice
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>>585071641
Don't they show up in Cold War?
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>>585071614
we all do what we have to in order to survive
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>>585071641
4
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>>585071751
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>OOOOOOH OOOOOOOH OOOOOOOH
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>every single game is IEWS faggotry
I'm having so much fun.
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hello sirs how how to avoiding infinite turnfights in online respond urgent thank you
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>>585072097
don't
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>>585072097
tell a LAAMnig to support you while you 'distract' the fresh meat
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>>585071823
but I already posted the best part
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>>585071962
<<WHEELS OF THEVE! YOU'RE NOT WELCOME IN THE SOTOAN RACETRACKS!>>
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>>585072174
You always need a bunch of uglies to make the good-looking one look even better.
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> <<All Callsigns. Commence the Offensive. We are the descendants of those who not be ruled. Show them what that means.>>
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>>585071603
They're not that active in the game dude. The Belkans in 5 show up more
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>watching missiles literally fucking teleport on my radar
amazing game fucking why even bother holy fuck
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>>585071758
Crimson 1 isn't with them the other times they show up
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>>585072418
just be japanese
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>>585072034
Then when Lv.3 abilities come out lmao, its ESM will have 40.56s/42s uptime, because why not
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>>585072309
Kate needs no such trickery to look beautiful
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alt-f4
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>>585072534
You're right ...
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>>585072454
he literally does, except the crimson you shoot down other than the last two encounter will never be him, AC4 yellow 13 logic.
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>>585072316
PW 2 when?
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>>585072697
They're hiring atm so probably in 2 years to fill in the Ace Combat gap again
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>>585072518
Whoops, thought we were still praising the Growler. Down with Barrifags!
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>lock in first
>guy swaps to Su-34 and locks it in
I hate people that do this so much. It's just a free loss and a miserable experience every time.
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>Tasha fucks off to Commie land
>Coster fucks off to make a soundcloud
>Rex becomes a WSO to Kate
>Jackpot 9 actually does become Joker 2 by becoming King 2.
She won.
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>>585072957
she died though
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>>585072957
hope she has fun being one shot by megacorp AI fighters
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>>585072575
Sex with Kate and B. Tan maybe M. Tan too
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>>585072697
I want to know what The Deal was

Please don't be "we rediscovered nukes" cordium weapons already have enough gravitas
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>>585072803
Are they gonna make a new world or something? They kinda fucked themselves by blowing up the planet for shock value at the end of PW.
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>>585048319
Legit badass and the only Sotoan squadron worth my respect
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>>585073082
Only cascadia was uber deleted
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>>585072097
Get a LAAMslinger teammate to third-party the enemy
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>>585073082
The world survived one calamity, whats another one?

Most likely it'll be the same world but Cascadia has been reduced to rubble and the Federation has balkanized due to its insane level of internal strife and the results of Calamity 2

Maybe we'll go fuck around in Albion in the ensuring wars to fill in the power vacuum left by the federation
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>>585072859
Its fine if you have 2 fighters and 2 attackers, personally I wouldnt trust a rando attacker so id still swap if I saw it as balanced.
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>>585073220
The real chad is the sotoan commoners, and the weakest sotoan commoner is cope, it's only natural for the rest to be chads
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>>585073061
I'm banking on it being a constitution for a mercenary state. It makes sense why people would be wary of that.
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>Crimson 1 wants you to remember him
>PW 2 happens
>He's now evil Cope in your head, shitting on you for every decision you do
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>>585073298
Can you even swap off after you lock in?
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>>585073290
Guess that can work, though the writer looks to have gone full schizo over his Zero knockoff story becoming popular and is writing they/them reader insert Kate fanfiction so I don't think it'll have good writing.
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>>585073061
Guessing its some means for Sicario to establish and defend a Mercenary state in Oceania
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>>585072803
Better have more twin seaters and ones that can AoA. I want more cute WSOs that get cute fanart like the canon dyed dirty blond braided ponytail with freckles prez and glasses shorted haired eye-tee
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So how is PA gonna handle the single player cut scenes for this thing? Are we gonna see Joker Gang strapped with this thing's built-in VR headset?
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>>585073521
He already nailed it once, I trust the hopeless romantic
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>>585073061
the deal was whatever would drive the story forward, it's pulp fiction
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>>585070963
Yes. I'm a scrub who has a habit of crashing in the tunnel and I still tend to end up having the highest score thanks to MGP's. For me it's the F4 rather than the Su-25, although I suspect that the frogfoot's advocates are correct. I just don't have enough USB sticks to level up the 25 and I'm not going to fly that brick in normal modes.
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>>585071603
I wasn't expecting Hunter.
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Su25 or A10 for the least useless flying brick?
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I don’t hate it
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Have you guys ever noticed that in sci-fi settings that don't have planes as their central premise (Macross, Ace Combat, etc), the aerial units are always absolute dogshit that would get smoked by basically any 4th gen?
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>Shadows 99th Unit (edge of Double Digits, just enough to not get downgraded) used F-22s
>Shadows 22 (peak of Double Digits, literal best of the best) used Su-57s
What did they mean by this??
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>>585074061
Probably because they were designed to be fought by a guy on foot and not a guy in a jet
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>>585073920
MGP's are king vs Chandelier and Arsenal Bird. SFFS bombs are king vs Alicorn. Su-25 has both. The Frogfoot is the sleeper king of super weapon fights if you can be arsed to invest in it, and the A-10 is just a brick.
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>>585074061
Because people who don't care about planes in particular, have no idea about how they work and how they fight. Its true for almost everything actually. Have you seen guns mechanics in games that aren't centered on guns ?
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>>585074061
they have to be balanced against the infantry that's stuck fighting against them

if I were playing Halo and a Banshee could fly at Mach 2 and drop JDAMs on me from a mile above the map, the game would be broken
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you'd think tewy would have any interaction with tasha whatsoever
not even a single line about the daughter of ace who grounded her
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>>585074179
well at least 25 is cheap to raise, might as well later
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>>585074185
>people who don't care about planes in particular, have no idea about how they work and how they fight
the designers for these games know exactly how planes are supposed to work in real life
that's just not what they're balancing their game's planes for
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>>585074061
>it is the 41st millenium
>the mig-15 is still a viable threat
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>>585074243
I assume she simply doesn't know.
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>>585074243
she thought tasha was too cringe to speak to
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>>585074297
Most normgroids have no idea how anything works, anon. From cars to planes. But in this case they mostly don't care anyway because they're looking for balance, yes.
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>>585074243
A mongol warlord and a tiktok e-girl are so metaphysically incompatible that they might as well be aliens to eachother
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>>585074478
>Most normgroids have no idea how anything works, anon.
Not you, though. You're the only smart guy left in this world, surrounded by nothing but sheep and cattle.
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>>585074346
>>585074354
>>585074519
all fair but at that point why even have it be Tasha's mom specifically of all people?
feels like a missed opportunity is all, unless itll be used as a framing device for the DLC like some people predict
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>>585074705
Thanks for noticing.
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>>585073619
I'm actually curious about the lack of COFFIN in 8 considering X happens a year after 7 and we're really close to 3
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I simply can't be having more fun playing this game than I am right now.
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>>585074782
DLC bait
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>>585074860
Is X40 not a COFFIN variant? It should be a special cockpit to make a disabled person being able pilots again
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>>585073619
>Implying they're going to do anything
This garbage isn't getting any updates
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>>585074323
To be fair, it's the 41st millennium. Apparently, the best and longest-lasting helicopter design is the Hind, but without blades
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Someone talk me out of leveling a EA-6B
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>>585075826
It's just A-6 on steroid
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>>585075826
you will be looked down upon as a gay boy for using an EW plane
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>>585075826
Think of how smoothly your low-cost TDM matches will go when your team has ew support and the other team doesn't
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What were they smoking when they gave LAAMs twice the turning rate of QAAMs?
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>>585076079
I watched a pair of LAAMS do three full circles around me on my radar earlier. I
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>>585076075
>low cost matches
I don't believe it when my F-4E gets put in the same lobbies as Su-57s.
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>>585076178
I can't believe that the LAAMs circled 4 full times and finally got this guy.
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>>585076185
I said TDM for a reason anon
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>>585055398
The worst part of RaidersSphere is the missile alarm sound. Just the worst
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>>585056921
TLDR, Useans are retarded.
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What's your favorite fictional plen, AC aside?
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>>585076284
The second pair he fired did
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>>585076536
Mass-production Morgan with all the control surfaces.
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What do you guys think that FATO stands for?
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>enemy team consists of an EA-36, TLS Morgan, Su-57, and EA-18
>team mate alt-f4s
If he didn't do it I was going to.
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>>585074860
The FCU and Sotoa are both too poor for COFFIN

>>585075001
X-40 is COFFIN and likely uses an early version of the Night Raven's direct neural implant since it's also a DOE fighter.
I think he's just confusing COFFIN as a general concept with the ENSI from AC3.
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>>585076536
This sucker grew on me pretty quick once I'd gotten some grip on the game's mechanics. If the stars align and AC8 has a crossover with Nuclear Option (unlikely to say the least given the game's name and Japanese PTSD), I'm a day 1 buyer.
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>>585073619
They might just give it a Falken cockpit interior instead. I'd prefer it that way, actually, the VR thing was fucking lame.
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lol
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>>585070963
I mean yes, but mostly because the two MGP planes worth taking to Chandelier are already decent/good groundpounders. The Phantom has alright stats plus UGBs are a fantastic A2G weapon, and as a multirole it doesn't get any penalties for attacking ground targets. The Frogfoot really shines because Attackers get bonus damage to ground targets, SFFS allows damage stacking for the tankier targets present in Emergency Sorties, its MGPs still fire straight and get Attacker multiplier the Phantom misses out on, and while its normal gun points downward the Frogfoot and Thunderbolt get a 10 damage gun with the same rate of fire as the 5 damage gun on most other planes which again gets to make use of the Frogfoot's sweet Attacker buff.

A-10 gets shafted so hard in terms of SpW and abilities compared to the Su-25 that it's not even funny.
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Was looking at some of the pre-release stuff again and noticed the chanting at the start of Gaffed Card used to be clean like the rest of the track, I guess the intros being live improv with radio interference was a late addition
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hows the optimization for AC8?
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Am I going to go three days without seeing any superweapon fights? It's more likely than you think. Who greenlit this design?
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>>585077739
Make sure you're using the party finder between your own matches. There won't always be one available but it's still worth a shot
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>>585077425
Gameplay runs surprisingly well for the hefty system requirements, cutscenes chug like a motherfucker.
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These EXP sticks are almost insultingly shit.
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>>585077913
They stop being useful past level 3 it's awful
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Sorry, I just can't hate Sotoa.

Colonialism is based. Latin is cool. The drip is unmatched. Yurts are comfy and sheep are cute. Nobody cares about the Geneva suggestions in current year. Anything Sotoa did "wrong" didn't happen and also they deserved it. Don't hate just because you can't PSM and only brought two flares.

Deep down you want to stop resisting and take a qt Sotoan wife Ad Terram Promissam. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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>>585077867
Also make sure you make a public party when you get one yourself.
If everyone who played was sharing emergencies then gold blueprint scarcity would be solved.
>>585077913
I think they're meant to be a supplement instead of your main source of experience. You're still meant to fly the plane you want to level.
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>>585078097
>tfw no pure sotoan steppe waifu
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>>585077867
I've tried that 50 times and I've never once seen it work. I wouldn't be surprised if it only worked for japs.
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>>585077913
It's a flat 50 XP per stick. I stopped using mine because it's far more effective to use an XP contract during an Emergency Sortie, I figure it'll be cool two seasons down the line when there's a new plane I want and I can just toss stockpoled zoll/gold prints/XP memories and immediately play a maxed out plane.
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>>585066286
what if
She only dies if you kill all the trainees because someone loses it and targets joker squadron specifically for it at the floating fortress
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>>585078097
This is honestly a big reason I cant give a single solitary fuck about Usea

They got hit by a first strike attack by Sotoa, by all accounts a much smaller and lesser nation, and IMMEDIATELY collapsed and balkanized into a bunch of states that swore allegiance to Sotoa instantly, only being saved by Ace Combat protag plot armor.

Usea is a shithole that deserved to be conquered
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>>585078356
Works for me. Sometimes. It's just that there aren't anywhere near enough emergency parties available to go around since everyone wants them. We must find a way to inform the world that they can and should start parties when they get emergencies.
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>>585078110
>If everyone who played was sharing emergencies then gold blueprint scarcity would be solved
Did you forget they have a daily limit of 5?
>I think they're meant to be a supplement instead of your main source of experience. You're still meant to fly the plane you want to level
I mean yea, but that doesn't mean they need to be fucking awful. Almost 100 of them giving you less than 5 levels is ridiculous. I doubt 100 of them would give you a single level past level 16. I love f2p nigger hell grind in the multiplayer included in my full priced game.
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i just don't understand what sort of fictional facts they created that allows sheep instead of ponies to be the mainstay animal of steppe life in strangereal
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>>585077425
In-game is fine. I get 40fps in cutscenes.
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>>585078657
Well, it'd be a lot closer to solved. If I'd hit the 5 daily cap every single day so far then I'd be a lot better off than I am now, that's for sure.
The planner says it's 1537 experience to go from level 19 to 20 on a high tier plane so that's 31 memories. 137 to go from 15 to 20. 232 to go from 10 to 20. 300 to go from level 1 to 20.
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>>585078773
Sheep are always the mainstay of the steppes.
Yurt and clothing are made of felt and wool. Sheep convert grass into meat, wool, leather and milk.
Horses, even ponies need more care and feed.
Though grazing territory is all important to nomads after water. Frequently the same thing.
The Sotoans talking about how they just cruised the steppes like the wind are nobility. Who are not bound to follow seasonal grazing grounds, the city-folk to who the air-force is prestigious or the southern mountain dwellers who probably are more sedentary for lack of space.
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>>585078097
Sotoans have aesthetic drip, genuine culture, a strong sense of duty, and a non-bourgeois nobility who have a sort of "modernity is a fuck, billions must die" attitude which I can't help but respect. The FCU by comparison just feels like an hodgepodge of provinces with no real vision or collective national identity which share a border for economic convenience. I'd probably let Tewy have her way if it was an alternative ending option, as destroying global corporations is more heroic than saving Strangereal Toronto.
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I've gotten Ace Combat 6's online multiplayer working again, expect a release coming in the next few days buddies
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Is there any way to get Shadow skins in multiplayer?
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Now theres a nation with some grit
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Would you call Princess Cossette a libtard to her face?
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>>585079302
I read a post earlier that 500 sorties unlocks it for that plane but for whatever reason I doubt that.
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>>585077913
Fuckers should at least drop more often. Why are resource drops after matches random in whether they even show up?
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>>585079301
Can finally rape people in my idolmaster F-22 again.
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>>585079437
They're guaranteed if you fly a maxed out plane
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>>585079216
Sotoan royalty are all larping faggots. Did you guys even play the game?
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>>585079481
top kek
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>>585079437
You get one every time if you play with a maxed out plane. By that I mean a level 20 plane, by the way. If you use your 15/15 plane it's still random and you're still wasting exp. Though a shitty exp stick doesn't stop your reward for maxing out a plane the privilege of not flying it anymore so you're not wasting exp that should be going to a non-leveled plane. I hate this system so much.
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>>585079347
She's far too earnest to be a libtard and has enough of a brain to not have patience for people who would abuse her kindness. She has a squadron of pilots who will send you to the Promised Land on her order and probably has Trigger on speed dial in case shit gets turbofucked. She's like Relena from Gundam Wing but at least 30% less stupid and not into men who threaten to kill her.
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>>585076897
Modded plane but I really love the FS-3 Ternion. It's like the super mega hyper F-15 that combines the agility of the F-15MTD, semi stealth of the F-15SE, insane payload of the F-15EX, and then scales it up and throws in a bit of Su-47 Berkut for good measure. Absolute unit. Afterburner sounds amazing too.
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>>585079342
>has to rely in mercenaries to do most of their fighting
>grit
The Federation are bitch-ass bullies who whine when their victims show resistance, but Cascadians also suck. Every Strangereal nation rises to the challenge when their enemy slaps them with a superweapon, the PacNorWest faggots nearly rolled over after a few nukes.
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>>585079616
I'm not going to waste my time grinding shit planes for the hell of it. Either they fix this shitty system, or online will die off before the third battlepass.
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Speaking of PW, Ulanbataar exists and their Khan is a Peacekeeper who shows up for two missions. Now that's a nonad LARPGOD
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>>585079616
I don't find the experience grind that bad since the gold blueprints have all the planes I care about capped anyway. Flying my only level 20 plane is better than flying a lower level one since at least I get to stockpile 50 xp every time instead of getting nothing.
>>585079651
>semi stealth of the F-15SE
Ternion RCS is huge, it's not stealthy at all.
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>>585080006
>The Federation Air Academy is in Mongolia

nomads sure love their jet fighters
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>>585079792
They won't fix it. This dogshit is 100% dying in the next three months. The only people left playing will be the worst kinds of autists.
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What if there was a typo in the missile stats and the fat-fingered LAAM agility, and it's supposed to have a turn rate of 15 instead of 150?
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>>585047720
The Japanese are morons. Never understand how the weeb subculture even formed as a culture they're a dead end.
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>>585080308
Im convinced the LAAM and SAAM are just reversed.
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>>585079768
The Strangereal superweapons are a nothingburger compared to Cordium bombs

Presidia and Prospero are megacities and they likely had casualty rates exceeding 95% after the bombings
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>>585047720
Thousand apologies, gaijin-san, but please understandu that because this game is meant for consoles, coherent UI design is simply impossibru!
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>>585079792
Buddy, the first battlepass still have 40 or so days to end, they will be lucky if the MP doesn't die before the second one
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>>585080473
dont think a bomb shelter is saving you from this one
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>>585080618
It's just orange goop. It'll wash out.
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>>585079768
I just think theyre neat
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>>585080461
>saams don't track worth a fuck even using them properly
>laams are just long range qaams
i love this game
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>>585079768
>the PacNorWest faggots nearly rolled over after a few nukes.
You're downplaying the amount of damage done. The death toll is very likely in the millions by the end of PW.
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I am playing ace combat 3. need some help
I get A ranks now but always some B or D ranks in some specific missions.
How does the branching storyline work? I already got one ending Alongside Cynthia against Rena, hard hard hard one I had to use the emulator save to do it ngl so ouroboros but now i am on neucom with fiona...sorry i didnt know she was gonna die last time and with these new missions im back to getting D ranks and they are very hard.

also is this the only lategame plane...its kinda cool but lame in some ways

also should i just, what i did was i finished the game and then on same profile i started again its counting my total time so not new character and i am just going through the game again, i have to do this for all routes? where the hell is the mission picker ive heard about
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>>585080915
>forward swept wings
>not on the same plane as the center of lift
>exacerbating the twisting issues
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>585081015
One thing I really dislike about 3 is the forced plane usage on the final missions. The Su-47 is ok and the Game for GR is great but I like the variety.
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>>585081252
Maybe when the top part SPEENS it can go on autorotate like a helicopter.
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>>585080486
I was trying to be optimistic, but I pretty much agree with your assessment from a realistic standpoint. It's hard to even get superweapon fights to fire when you have one ready. The game takes minutes to find 7 other players who were lucky enough to get a proc
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>>585081252
Since it stays in the air with all wings and engines shot off anyway i'm pretty sure Sotoan engineers just made it wrong on purpose as a joke
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>>585079768
>has to rely in mercenaries to do most of their fighting

might as well complain that every nation in strangereal is dogshit because the MC does 99% of the work
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>>585081015
so?
also i get super dizzy at times or like a slight headache, this is my first ace combat
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>>585081252
THAT'S your issue with it?
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>>585055398
Damn this game is actually hard on "hard"

Single missiles are halving my health. Even on Ace difficulty AC games aren't nearly that punishing
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>>585081015
>I get A ranks now but always some B or D ranks in some specific missions.
Prior to 6 ranks are just based on score. Kill more things before you kill all the mission targets, the better your score.
>How does the branching storyline work?
Five major paths, or rather three plus two. You've already done the Neucom and Neucom Ouroboros route, the other three are the other factions you can join and an Ouroboros version of one of those. Some optional missions are available for specific actions in missions, but the main branches are when you get to choose who to tag along with or not. There's a few charts around that show how to unlock everything, the one on the wiki is fine.
>also is this the only lategame plane...its kinda cool but lame in some ways
The different factions have different endgame planes. Ouroboros just uses the endgame plane of the faction it branched off of
>also should i just, what i did was i finished the game and then on same profile i started again its counting my total time so not new character and i am just going through the game again, i have to do this for all routes? where the hell is the mission picker ive heard about
Free mission is post all route completion, and only for ones your Account has personally experienced. Best way to do it is to keep a save on the mission for a major branch and use it to save yourself from replaying all the way up to a turning point, that's why each Account has so many save slots. You'll see basically everything besides some hidden optional missions while you're playing the different routes, and some of the optional ones are pretty cool.
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>>585081252
What is your aerodynamics engineer opinion on the Banshee in Yukikaze? Comfortably twice the size of the Aigaion btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MBSrqypm2M
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>>585081969
A lot of ACs have missiles one shot you on ace so they are that punishing. They've gotten easier in recent times.
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>>585081979
>Prior to 6
Prior to 7, rather. 6 was the last one without a score component, bah.

Humbly, I think you've already seen the worst storylines the game has to offer. Cynthia and Fiona are just pretty selfish and don't really bounce off Nemo besides using him it to get what they want. Characters in other routes aren't totally shallow and bounce off of Nemo/each other better. Fi totally deserved to die and Cynthia's just a crazy cunt, fuck those sisters.
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>>585082515
GR and UPEO routes are both really good stories
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Avril pretty sums up every single place in the planet right now. Im in the US.
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>>585082978
Not anywhere humans are absent.
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>>585081979
>>585082515
Thanks for the reply. Yeah I thought Cynthia was going to be cooler than she really was, also what a pain of a final mission, crazy shooting all reactors flying like crazy. Not done with neucom fiona one but we will see. I am not sure I am doing some tricks right, like turning sharply, sometimes yes sometimes no. i might have to finish this run the way i did it and start over again (for 3rd time) next to get the branching point saves but i dont mind doing it the slow path too, i really like this game.

is there any other ace combat with this absolutely great atmosphere? the ost, visuals, story are just so great to me, reason why im playing this one first
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>>585082978
It's all because borders exist.
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Why is everyone in North Point besides Mobius 1 and SkyEye so fucking incompetent?

Like other games at least creates the illusion that everyone else is also putting in the work, the ISAF genuinely does nothing while Mobius one saves Usea.
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>>585083102
>totally not the (((Grey men))) fucking us in the ass
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>alicorn fight
>DEFEAT
>have the most damage by a shit ton
>teammates have like 5k score
Thanks. I hate it.
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>>585083132
ISAF are basically the FCU pre-FCU. I guess that explains how Sotoa completely fucked them until a random helo pilot got thrown into a Hornet
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>>585083132
Unfortunate reality of Ace Combat writing.
Everything is about giving the player the hero treatment, and as a result all NPCs seem incompetent.
Like I was watching a vtumor play just for the humor of her lack of skill, and the fact the dialogue doesn't change makes it very obvious.
>"Wow, Rex's new flying style is really amazing! We're a totally new squadron!"
>vtumor crashes into the ocean
It's just the way it is.
At least we get some awesome NPCs like the Immortals.
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>>585083363
>They're spamming missiles at the enemy
>the target that's actually locked on is 2k behind them
>they don't notice
>reads chat
>"press triangle!"x1000
>holds triangle
>looks at locked target way in the distance
>releases triangle and continues spamming missiles at the unlocked planes in front of them.
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You know the main antagonists being RETVRN larpers and cryptobros working together until the millisecond one side stops being useful to the other is one of the most on point bits of social commentary in the story. It really do be like that. It makes me like DD even more honestly, I'm not entirely sure if he always unironically bought into the Wings story or he moved to believe in it through your actions, but I enjoyed his arc. Also he has a picture of Kono's mug on his shoes.
>>585082978
I can relate. I'm trying to find my own happiness, really all I can do.
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>>585083458
I'm actually worried that AC8's success will result in AC9 being explicitly for the casual audience, despite Ace Combat itself always being half arcade game.
The last thing we need is another fucking movie game.
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>>585083363
6 did a great job at making the rest of the army not completely incompetent, it's a shame they gave up on it ever since.
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>>585083458
>>585083363
What the fuck, who are you guys even watching?
All the vtumors i know are at the very least mildly decent gamers that happen to be vtubers.
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>>585083296
>singularities dab on NPC retards
>Alicorn dabs on teammate shitters who've never even heard of air to ground
I'm sorry for your loss anon, but the Alicorn being such a nugget filter is unintentionally the funniest part of online.
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>>585083572
Biboo.
And while she is playing on pilot difficulty, she is using expert controls - so respect.
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>>585083559
>6 did a great job at making the rest of the army not completely incompetent, it's a shame they gave up on it ever since.
This is solely due to Allied Attacks, honestly. Emmerians are just as bad as anyone else except Talisman is allowed to use them to spam area of effect nukes five times for each mission objective achieved.
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>>585083556
>worried that AC8's success will result in AC9 being explicitly for the casual audience
Wasn't AC7 explicitly made for a casual audience?
Anyway i think will be fine, one of the biggest normie internet voices completed the game on Normal and said he loved it as is, so i think the "zeitgeist" will ccept they are simply bad at Ace Combat.
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>>585083636
That's part of the fun of her streams, she usually learns as she goes. I remember her AC6 playthrough she was getting filtered by Balteus until she finally realized there's no i-frames. Didn't take long after that.
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>>585083556
Ace Combat has always been casual in its gameplay, and really only kept semi-niche because norms don't care about planes.
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>>585083572
I don't know. It was some 2-viewer that the algorithm recommended. She spent more time vibing to a huge playlist of music from the franchise than playing the game.
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>>585083924
Ace Combat has always been casual, but it can get worse. So much worse.
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cattle-herding sheep-driving prairie-dwelling fucking NOMAD
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>>585084050
I'm surprised there were no squadrons themed after cowboys.
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>>585083948
>She spent more time vibing to a huge playlist of music from the franchise than playing the game.
Understandable
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>>585083924
>Ace Combat has always been casual in its gameplay
"casual" is very, very relative here

to a DCS player, it's casual as shit
to the kind of gamer who's only used to FIFA or Mario Kart or Call of Duty, it's nearly incomprehensible
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I took the Su-25 to the Alicorn fight like you guys recommended, and the railguns were fucking me up. In other planes I could dodge the hitboxes, but in the fatfuck that is the frogfoot I was just fucked if it decided to fuck me in particular. Do you have any tips beyond:
>he fell for the frogfoot and should have bought the strike eagle.
Does it have a blindspot where it can't aim? Such as directly astern? I'd test it some more myself but god knows when I'll get another chance to fight it.

I still topped the damage scoreboard by a shit ton. So I guess arguably it was worth it even if the railguns kept fucking me, but I'd like to improve.
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>>585084080
Queen 2's callsign is Spanish for "Cowboy"
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>Fugg, weekly is I need to kill X with a 1500cost jet.
>All I got that high is the Morgan
>F-2 is almost there, but I need to level it a bit more.
>How much would that cost???
>Buy SU-47 instead.

Man, I'm really bad at managing the grinds for these jets.
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>>585084223
I mean on the Sotoan side.
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>>585084050
>"Typical shitoan, loves bombing civvies almost as much as they love fucking sheep."
Did Baxter really need to go that far?
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>>585048319
>Is shot down
>Steals an APC with just his pistol and escapes
Honestly, main character material
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>>585083572
I've seen a lot of vtumors crashing into the ocean and bouncing off because they're on easy mode. They follow the target arrow WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS. The arrow tells them where to go. They don't realize how high that they're flying. They don't know how tight that they can turn. They ate breakfast this morning. They don't know what a spit-S is, but the arrow told them to do one at 200m.
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>>585084191
Stay close to the Alicorn to use you turn rate and keep circling, the Su-25 dies if you go over 1000
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>>585084361
The answer is A, right?
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>>585084258
oh
well then the Sotoans would 1. need to have had an unsettled frontier in their history at some point in order to have even developed a cowboy tradition so that it would even make sense for them to invoke that imagery, and 2. need to somehow not decide that something as rustic as a cowboy was not "beneath them" (which runs counter to all of their traditions seeming elitist as fuck)

1 seems doubtful but still possible
2 seems impossible, at least given what we're shown
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>>585084251
Anon...
It's gotta be base cost. Berkut costs 1200
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>>585084361
D
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>>585084437
please be memeing...
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>>585084508
>It's gotta be base cost
Seemed to work after strapping some 100cost parts on it.
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>>585083516
Video game escapism is how we cope..
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>>585084724
Oh so that's why he's named that.
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I did some experimenting with SAAMs in practice mode. This might be known already, but you don't need to keep SAAMs selected and locked onto the target. Vid related
>acquire lock on A-10 with SAAM
>launch
>immediately swap to bombs
>new target is an AA
>SAAM continues to track A-10
I presume that the SAAM is continues to track my last known airborne target, and that the tracking radar circle mechanic is still in play even though the circle is no longer being drawn onto the HUD.
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>>585084361
Dee duh
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>>585083296
I've had a lot more success since I started making parties for emergencies. New players don't think to use the party finder to search for them and don't know how valuable gold blueprints are, so you're pretty much guaranteed relatively high ranks who know what they're doing. With at least four good people any raid is easy.
MAKE EMERGENCY PARTIES
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>>585084926
If you feel like doing some more testing, someone a few threads ago was claiming you can get SAAMs to hit LAAM range.
>fire SAAM without lock
>swap to LAAM and acquire lock
>after SAAM hits max range, it will track LAAM target until out of gas
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>>585084926
>the tracking radar circle mechanic is still in play
That's the case, yes. The SAAM no longer being able to target two targets at the same time pisses me off, would make it decent in some situations in assault.
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>>585085107
With a bit of juggling you sort of can strike two targets simultaneously with them. You just need to stagger your shots a bit. Both missiles track target 1, missile 1 splashes target 1, missile 2 changes lock to target 2, and then missile 2 splashes target 2.
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>>585085090
I unfortunately don't own anything with both LAAM and SAAM. I guess technically I have a Nigger-31, but I haven't limit broken it enough to equip both SPW simultaneously and I don't want to make the expense.

I suspect that the player who made that assertion didn't turn away from the target after launching both missiles, and that the SAAM may have merely flown forward on a dumb flight path until his own plane flew within tracking radar range of the target. You can get some extra range out of SAAMs by pre-launching them prior to a lock and then catching a target lock mid-flight. This also lets you completely negate the reduced lockon range downside of the Su-47's ability that increases the size of the tracking circle at the cost of reduced lockon range. Who cares about the reduced lockon range when the missile's flight range isn't impacted and you can simply acquire the lock a moment later after the missile has already spent seconds in flight?
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>>585085460
Understandable, I wouldn't want to put you out.

I've always hated SAAMs, ever since the PS2 days. You have to point at the target for so long since they fly so slow, and they can still miss if the final angle they need to hit at is too extreme. I think I tried it once in 7 and still hated it.
Maybe I'll give the Berkut a go though. Gotta love those wings
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>>585084926
Cool. I love SAAMs for some reason. Was really upset the base Hornet didn't get them
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>>585085906
>>585086326
>>585085107
They do feel like they're pretty slow, but that might be partly a mix of my experience in alternatives mostly being HVAA and the turbo-busted LAAM. They do feel very reliable at splashing NPC targets though. The main problem is that you can be forced to burn flares if you take fire while guiding the missile in. A secondary problem are the LAAMboats just facerolling everything on the map. If you're lucky though you can salvage the missile by swapping to a fresh target after a LAAM steals your initial kill.

I think that the game-changer feature for the SAAM in 8 is the lock-on-after-launch capability. They're still eclipsed by LAAMs mind you. I'm not trying to argue that they're secretly better. But take a look at this clip. I recognize that apaches are basically sitting duck targets, but it's proof of concept.

>launch at 10km. Well outside of my lockon range
>stagger my launches over time
>Fly into range of my targets
>the SAAMs start tracking and killing each target in sequence
I've put it to good effect in Assault battles in situations such as "Destroy the B2 bombers" or the "F117 attackers". Those fuckers are basically sitting ducks and I can start launching against them from well beyond my lockon range and engage multiple bombers. Again the LAAMniggers outperform this with less effort, but I think LOAL SAAMs come in second place for long range bomber target deletion.

I've been consistently getting scores in assault mode combining bombs with SAAMs. So far I'm using the level 2 bomb radius part, level 2 MSL tracking, and MSL performance boost ability. Once I level up some more I'm thinking about adding air SPW speed boost part and maybe High G turn boost ability.
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Is it possible to implement a Tonitrus Spear on Earth, it seems wonky.
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>>585087145
It is technically possible, it's just not worth the effort. Regular ballistic missiles are just flat out better.
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>>585087145
It's possible. It's a space weapon concept that is frequently known as "Rods from God". There's nothing particularly outlandish about the concept. The problems are largely the economic cost of transporting bigass tungsten telephone poles into orbit and the diplomatic concerns of weaponizing space.
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Which plane in MP is both maneuverable at high speeds and fairly cheap?
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>>585048348
They could try ejecting, maybe that would work? After all, pilot doctrine exists for a reason, right?
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>>585087145
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

No one wants MAD 2.0. As soon as someone launched one, the entire world would impose extreme trade sanctions on them, and pressure other countries to do the same. Anti-satellite weapons also exist if it seems like the owner country will actually use it
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>>585086603
interdasting
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>>585087474
>>585087145
Space warfare also has the potential to start fucking over the world as a whole by creating something known as "Kessler syndrome". Basically if you blow up enough satellites in orbit then the debris will start destroying more satellites, which creates more debris, which destroys more satellites, which makes more debris, until you have this huge debris cloud orbiting the planet that destroys all orbital infrastructure and makes it very impractical or outright impossible to put new shit into orbit.
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>>585087376
F-14D, its by far the most maneuverable tier 1 aircraft, where they only need 10 yellow blueprints to fully upgrade, it also has a maneuverability buff ability that is easy to proc on top.
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anyone else think 7 had more of a high stakes feel at the end with the thing about the hugin and munin ai going rogue being painted almost like a human extinction end of the world thing
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>>585048687
Enso Order needed a patsy and Sotoa was an easy mark
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>>585087889
Yes. The ending was more satisfying because of that.
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>>585087376
>>585087838
Seconding Super Tomcat for tier 1. But if tier 2 is on the table I will always shill the cute Gripen
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>>585088304
Looking at it, the F-14A is just a downgrade, isn't it?
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>>585088304
Unfortunately gimped by being a multirole.
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>>585088557
It has UGB, so it's an alright multiroll
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>>585088557
Has a better paintjob and UGB is more useful as anon said. If devs introduced point costs would be absolutely dominating.
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Oh holyshit, I just noticed the Su-47 has a tiny magazine for it's cannon. Most of what I've flown uses a 20mm vulcan, so I understand stuff that uses the bigger cannons are going to have less, but like the Berkut is really light on gun ammo. What other jets have small payloads?
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Think devs should replace the useless WSO's in planes with the computers you saw in AC7?
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>>585089214
Most European and Russian aircraft have tiny magazines. https://ac8-database.pages.dev/weapons/mg-x1/
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>>585089273
It'll be a cold day in hell before I let a m*chine backseat me
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>>585089340
>https://ac8-database.pages.dev/weapons/mg-x1/
Look at the online Su-47 ammo count https://ac8-database.pages.dev/aircraft/su47/#online

Wonder if it's a bug, checking in-game online my lvl5 Berkut only has 244 gun ammo.
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>>585089723
Oh right yeah online is a bit different all round. I was assuming you meant SP.
SP and MP aircraft have different stats.
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>>585087709
And as we know Kessler syndrome already happened back in '19 with the light house war so nations figured "fuck it, why not" and started weaponizing space
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>>585089214
>>585089340
it's worth mentioning that the damage scales inversely with the ammo pool and fire rate
the European and most of the Russian jets shoot slower and have less ammo, but hit harder
the American, Japanese, and fictional jets (and any MiG with a number ending in "1") shoot faster and have more ammo, but each individual shot is weaker
so it pretty much evens out between the two groups in terms of DPS

the exceptions are the A-10 and Su-25, who keep the faster fire rate, but with a huge ammo pool, and medium damage (so they actually have the highest base gun DPS)
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>Literally could not land a single missile hit online without LAAMs
This is genuinely insane. Worse than AC7 in every way.
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>>585090062
It's okay nugget you'll get there eventually!
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>>585088557
UGBs are good in campaign but Fighters get a much more significant debuff to ground units in online. Still, the F-14A's free, cheap to unlock, and fast enough to deliver UGBs early on before you can buy a better ground pounder.
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>>585090102
F-4 legit makes a better ground pounder. It'll surprise you.
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>>585089273
why not just make a cute WSO character
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>>585090085
I will NEVER use LAAMs in PvE
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https://acecombat.jp/ace8news/?p=32

PATCH NOTES

LADON NERFED
SHADOW 22 NERFED
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>>585090248
thanks OBC-kun
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>>585090085
Good fucking luck, you can't even close the gap before someone else hits the target with a LAAM, its boring as fuck. Who the fuck is enjoying mashing between targets dropping a single LAAM between them?
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>>585090248
if you didnt beat pre nerf 22 you didnt beat the game
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>>585088984
Hornet and Phantom would be much better because their abilities aren't shit. Hornet gets air damage and missile upgrade so its missiles are actually stronger vs air than Tomcat is, and it's way better at ground because it's a multirole. Phantom doesn't get air damage but it gets UGB upgrade so it's way better at bombing.
F-14D rocks but F-14A is pretty trash.
>>585089214
F-35 is pretty small too. Max level F-35 with the extra ammo ability gets 1220 shots. Meanwhile max Raptor gets 1493. Max level Super Hornet gets 1810.
It might be related to the F-35's gun being 25mm instead of 20mm but it's not like it gets a damage bonus from that. It does exactly the same damage as a 20mm. It just gets less ammo because fuck it.
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I hate it here :(
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• Reduced the duration of the following special weapons in ACE COMBAT ONLINE:
・ECM
・ESM
・IEWS
zamn
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>>585090163
What if you could punish naughty wingmen by putting them in the WSO seat?
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>>585090248
>ECM, ESM, IEWS nerfed
THATS IT!?
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>>585090248
>casuals got filtered hard enough by the ladon and topkek that they got nerfed
Lame.
>jammer weapons get shorter uptime
Fair enough.
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>>585090350
Need to get yourself a UGB attacker and start slamming out those 100000+ rounds.
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>>585090248
>Adjusted some display elements in the game screen for ARCADE GAMES.
Glad to see them prioritizing the important things...
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>>585090248
>Fixed an issue where a mission could fail if a wingman used the MPBM on a nearby ground target when the transport plane was about to take off.
I was always thinking about this, funny
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>>585090248
Well, at least they're working on fixing their fucking menus. Even if it's not ready yet they're doing it.
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>>585090248
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>>585090248
>LADON NERFED
>SHADOW 22 NERFED
Doesn't suggest they have been nerfed though? What if in fact, they get buffed?
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>>585090534
To be fair the arcade game code is probably just one dude, it's not like that effort was going to tip the scales in making online not shit.
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>>585090248
Looks like they only nerfed the Ladon at Elite and Ace difficulty. I wonder what it was doing that made it that much of a problem there specifically.
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>>585090746
That's actually weird because Ladons are very easy once you know what you're doing. They're only a problem for new players who probably aren't playing on elite and aren't even allowed to play on ace.
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>>585090476
But anon that's what I was doing -_-
This thing is pretty sweet at killing ground shit. Should I spend my resources and max this out(su-34)
Im only at senior master Sargent. Here's my list of owned aircraft
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>>585090248
>tfw I beat the game
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>>585090884
Maxing out the Fullbackis worth it. A well equipped attacker is key to 2/3 of the current Emergency Sorties, and it'll still be relevant for half the superweapons they could add.
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post those hangars
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>>585091539
But I don't do online
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>>585090394
>they're willing to do mp only balance to weapons
LAAM nerf maybe!
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>>585090248
>Regarding the UI and menu navigation in ACE COMBAT ONLINE, we are prioritizing improvements based on the feedback we have received from you, with the goal of ensuring a more comfortable gameplay experience.
>These changes will be implemented in upcoming updates, so we ask for your patience in the meantime.
coming soon™
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I think the F-14A is nice to fly now that I have the mobility part for it

I should raise it to 20. She sure carries a lot of flares.
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>random ip rangebans forcing me to phonepost or "verify" (feed them more data they can sell)
a thousand plagues upon hiroyuki inshallah
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>>585090884
Sometimes you get a round where the fighters ignore you and you get infinite points. Just need one more of those.
Fullback does get significantly better at max level since you get better UGB ability at level 17 and better accel/handling at level 20. But that's expensive. Not as expensive as a high tier but still expensive.
>>585091835
QAAMs have had different stats in mp since day 1. For some reason.
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>>585090248
Post >yfw you beat it before the nerfs
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>>585092001
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>>585092001
>>585090585
the update isn't until the 23rd, so there's still time
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>>585090248
>- MISSION 28: Fixed an issue where the radio communication would not play and the game would become unplayable when attempting to redeploy after resupplying weapons.
oh, that's nice. I lost an S rank doing that and the mission is so long that I've just shelved it to work on other medals.
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>>585092001
>beat Crimson 1 before the nerf
>beat Shadow 22 before the nerf
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>>585092001
>S-ranked Ace, did no hit and guns only, all before the nerf
feels good man
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>>585092001
Pre-nerf bros assemble!
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>>585090248
Are they gonna nerf the ground or random cranes next? Because I already did the beatings and gravity, for my reckless leadfoot ass, was by far the most deadly Sotoan.

Glad they didn't seem to touch Moon 11, she's actually really fun on Ace as is.
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>>585091539
I'm kinda poor RN.
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>>585092426
Any nerfs made to the game mean Baxter dies looking like more and more of chump. Shame, don't do my boi Bax dirty by making the game easier.
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I just realized

>we want the gigi andalucia audience
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The corpo war in the next game needs to be staged in Wellow, they need to finally answer for their diabolical machinations.
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>>585092845
Aside from being blonde they don't really have much in common.
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>>585092001
>didn't get my S-ranks and gun/no damage runs done before patch because life happened
it's so over
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>>585092893
Wellow vs Nordennavic: The Arctic War
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>>585092893
Either that or notAntarctica.
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>>585092845
is this one of those instances where I should be glad that I don't know what you're talking about?
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>>585092893
>Wellow, they need to finally answer for their diabolical machinations.
finally, someone mentions the real menace
glad you buddies haven't forgotten
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>>585092956
>Misson 5: We found an abandoned secret Belkin base from the war of 95' its frozen but the corpos don't know it's here!
>Mission 11: A low altitude night raid under the Northern Lights
>Mission 17: You must sink the Mammoth Land Crawler, its protecting the enemy as they rebuild Chandelier, shoot the ice Sabertooth Flight!
>Mission 23: Some insane Wellow navy admiral screaming about the weaponized penguins as fighters launch from a super-base inside a glacier, as you do a blue ice tunnel run to bomb the cold fusion core.
>Mission 25: Somehow Hugin and Munin have returned.
>Mission 28: Those Wellow corpo-dogs totally found our frozen base!
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>>585092893
>In 2007, Wellow was selected to host the annual G7 Summit, a meeting of the world's most powerful nations to discuss international issues. A neutral, "borderless" area of open water off the coast of Wellow was ultimately chosen as the meeting site. However, the summit was immediately canceled after an attempted terrorist attack occurred in a nearby bay.
Oh...oh no...
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Whoever’s running the AC8 squadron, I sent a join request
Name is related to an FGO caster servant
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>>585094163
>Chanting in Inuit, the Faroes Language and Dane intensifies
>Unsolicited political lore about Strangereal Tlingit and Pacific Northwest Colonialism
>Unavoidable comparisons to Metal Gear, again
>IRL allusions to US aggression against Greenland
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>>585083556
AC8 is already for the casual audience.
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Is Sotoa supposed to be partly Israel or am I projecting? obsession over promised land and going "we only hit military targets :))" to OBC news after blatantly levelling Expo City
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>>585095197
>The face of someone who has not done her maths homework
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>>585091835
Now that we have confirmation the're willing to do this... What's the excuse for X-40 being so shit?
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>>585095259
Nah they're India. Israel can at least fight.
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>>585095197
Let's go, Ray! >:|
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>>585095259
Sotoa's military is a hodgepodge of how a dictatorship fights if it gets enough resources, and you can't really pin that down. For instance, Russia also does what you've said in the spoiler, plus the whole "if at first you don't succeed, default to war crimes" approach to fighting a war.
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>female awacs
>giggles in joy when you complete mission objectives
Please PA, thank you
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>>585095259
>"we only hit military targets :))"
this goes back to at least the Romans
every war that they ever fought was "totally self defense guys"
everybody wants to paint themselves as the good guys, whether they are or aren't
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>>585095602
Already established is that the next AWACs is going to be a thirteen year old girl with her grumpy grandpa.
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>>585067779
They were, you don't really see much of them in zero's early phases but that's why some yukes are in AWWNB in the assault records.
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>>585095602
have you tried Joint Assault and picked the option to have the Swedish AWACS lady who always sounds like she's telling you a bedtime story?
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>>585092001
Justice for getting cucked out of beating Elden Ring and Silksong
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>>585048023
su-57 gets anti ship cruise missiles that are cathartic but less effective overall but more fun
you just get less i think
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>>585095259
>>585095584 (You)
Forgot to mention Imperial Japan, too. Both also liked their foreign auxiliaries and puppet states.
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>>585076536
The idea of a VTOL cargo/attacker/fighter craft is honestly dumb and awesome at the same time.
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>AC7 coop mod
>PW coop mod
PS2 coop mods soon, please
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Missed opportunity for AC8 or online to not have a skin or an emblem as AC7 completion reward
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>>585076536
Pelican from Halo is pretty cool
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>>585096232
Can't sell it on the battlepass if they didn't do that though?
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>>585095259
>Is Sotoa supposed to be partly Israel
you're ignoring the elephant in the room there buddy
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>>585096274
They'd make up for it by selling AC7
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>>585096323
Osea is truly the one behind all wars!
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>>585096356
I would probably re-buy it on PC for something like that
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>>585096356
What if you need to buy AC7 in order to unlock it on the battlepass that you pay for?
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Do you think Rot 1 survived the latest Dinsmark bombing?
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>>585092845
Tasha isn't a whore though
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>>585095584
Yeah now that you mention it that part was probably inspired by Russia and the Ukraine war. One interesting thing I read is that this specific style of flagrantly denying what everyone can see happened is a commonality between Russian and Israeli propaganda styles

>>585095617
That's true but there's a specific style in how you go about it. Like most NATO countries would say it was a regrettable targeting error or something that massages the truth in a credible way to maintain a narrative of mistakes in a broadly just cause rather than directly contradicting what your eyes can see to insist on an entirely pure one.
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Is shader compilation every time you launch the game normal is that just UE5 stuff
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>>585095259
They're the Ottoman Empire mixed with Mongolia
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>>585096004
It's fun how basically all enemies in Japanese military franchise have some element of imperial japan in them. I wonder if Gemma hit harder for Japanese players than for westerners
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>>585096924
I honestly think that what you're noting is way more common than you think, and that you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Sotoa isn't a direct allegory for the causes that happen to be at the top of your mind right now; they're just a fictional country.
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>>585076536
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI8ZDzMCjMI
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>>585097015
>the Ottoman Empire
nowhere near enough slavery and castration for this analogy to fit
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>>585076536
the yak-15p
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>>585092845
Huh now that you mention it...
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>Load into Warfare
>There isn't even a slot for Bravo 1, that's how fast he disconnected
>Have to wait out the clock, more than that because it goes on for a while after 0.00
>"Someone left, better luck next time :^)"
How did they care so little
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>>585097080
I'm mostly thinking aloud. I don't think Sotoa is an allegory for any specific country but it's interesting unpicking the inspirations that went into it (E.g. Sotoa isn't Russia, but the propaganda of both sides clearly took inspiration from the Russia-Ukraine war, and reflecting on that I'm less inclined to think there was much Israeli inspiration although I'm still interested in the promised land part.)

Similarly Usea obviously isn't Ukraine, but it's not hard to imagine where the Wings of Theve came from.
that's right, Sotoa![/spoiler
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>>585097180
Did you pay attention to the dialogue? Plenty of Sotoans referencing castration and slavery.
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I'm a John Burgerovich from the Theve oblast and I say Sotoans have done us all a favour by bombing the liberal shithole that is the Expo City.
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>>585097180
Bro, they specifically mention both
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>>585097401
maybe hathaway was right for choosing this
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do targets killed by wingmen count toward your score, I never checked
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>>585098073
ye no sweat
zero and 5 used to track your kills/wingman kills in your stats separately but points are counted in a regular way
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Why are some people complaining about wait times for online matches?
For me it's been fairly fast to find a match, haven't even been able to try the arcade because I'd get a match so fast.
Is there some restrictions based on your pilot rank?
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>Turns out TopKek and friends weren't supposed to shart out infinite flares
Well then

>>585098201
There's very obviously a hidden MMR system tied to something. If you're semi-competent at online you'll see your wait timer shoot up and lobbies become more and more 4-man shows as it struggles to find people
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>>585097751
>castration
yeah, for sheep.

>>585097751
>and slavery
when the FUCK did that happen?
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>>585096934
If it takes a few seconds it's normal. It should only take a while when you update your drivers.
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>>585098392
>The nerf to Topkek
It will just make the Sotoans look even more incompetent. Not a single one gave me a proper fight during the campaign. They were so bad at times I was leaving the Shadows to my wingmen.
>>585098616
>Slavery
Fatsia
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>>585098616
How do you even castrate sheep? They don't have a peepee, only rams do.
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>>585098690
I can kinda agree with this nerf desu. It was kinda retarded how the last 20-whatever turned into the average War Thunder player and just dumped hundreds of flares in a heartbeat
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>>585098690
>Fatsia
wat
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>>585098201
>>585098392
Yeah, it takes me like ten minutes to play warfare a single time for my dailies.
I'd like to play it more but I'm not willing to go through the wait and multiple "cancelled because no players found" every time. Assault takes far too long but at least it's a little faster since it's allowed to start with four people.
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>>585074112
55th uses mig-31s
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>>585098939
When the boss demands you surrender he says prisoners of war will be sent to Sotoa to work on anti desertification.
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>>585074112
total sukhoi victory im afraid
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>>585074112
>Bad pilots need good plane
>Good pilots can just fine with bad planes
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>>585080915
Unironically Arsenal Bird should get a second smaller Arsenal Bird welded on top of it
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>>585099069
Which probably means there are FCU POW's already there and since we get to confirmation of surrender more a ceasefire I can imagine we'll get a post game DLC with King flight going in to bust prisoners out with the Immortals, Uncommon Valor style.
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>>585099372
That's just a giant Geopelia
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>>585098965
10+ minutes and if it isn't a half-filled lobby it's finding the sweatiest pre-comp known to man playing like their lives depend on it in a co-op mode
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>>585048687
PA transplanting the rapid industrialization of Japan onto a different culture. Nevermind that Japan in the 1880s had major metropols with strong institutions and an absolute glut of cheap and relatively educated labor already.
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>>585098201
Maybe they have cross-play disabled
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>>585098392
I'm gonna miss infinite flare man, I liked testing different jets on him.
>>585098616
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luv me EA-6B Growler
flying the fuckin party bus with the lads
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>Based on your experience, please choose the likelihood of you recommending ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE to a friend or acquaintance
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>>585099890
Its the Prowler not the Growler. Its also the family car of King flight post game.
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>>585099434
Considering the ENTIRE Sotoan military high command is dead I doubt it.
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>>585100037
i realised my mistake after i posted it
i've brought great dishonor to my family and will not be making it to ace heaven
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>>585100117
Doesn't matter, both of them are trash compared to the Barricader anyway. Straight up not worth using
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>>585100070
>Considering the ENTIRE Sotoan military high command is dead
Are you sure about that? Cause the only way to be sure is turning every square inch of Sotoa to glass!
>>585100117
It's alright anon just means you'll have to spend some time in the WSO timeout chair that's all!
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>>585098616
>For sheep
Fag 22 says you're a shrike who needs his wings clipped, you can take that how you want given the source. But then Tewy makes another metaphor calling you an unruly animal in need of castration, like a sheep.

Also the Sotoans use forced labor from PoWs. When you attack the Megafloat, the commander of it threatens your surrender or else all cities in the FCU get fucked, then he smugly says that everyone that does surrender will be taken and put to work, permanently, on Sotoa's attemp at land reclamation.
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>are we running, ray?
why can't you say yes and run
ace combat should let you play a coward
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>>585100214
I'm fairly sure they said #whitegirlwasted was the highest ranking member of the military that didn't get blown up by Enso, and she's, you know.
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Does AC really have booths at airshows or what is bamco smoking?
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>>585100353
Because the spirit of Cipher would come into your cockpit and bitchslap you for being a Sotoan bitch!
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>>585100353
what even happens if you select "Yes" to that?
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>>585100328
I think the shrike reference was towards himself. Shrikes notoriously kill their prey even when full and then stab them onto spikes to store them for when they get hungry later.
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>>585100407
Some airshows featured music from Ace Combat, so why not have the inclusion officially?
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>>585100472
*ewe

Yew is a type of tree.
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>>585100598
>this event is brought to you by bandai namco and raytheon
Is it actually official?
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>>585098935
Anon, the sheep is the animal, a ram is just a male sheep. You can use "sheep" to denote either gender, so long as you specifically don't use the word "ewe", which is gender specific, like ram.
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>>585099434
The FCU has the prisoners from that big sotoan pocket on the mainland, it will probably all be solved with some NUN mandated prisoner exchange.
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>>585100732
>The FCU has the prisoners from that big sotoan pocket on the mainland
Didn't they say the Sotoans refused to surrender if I recall? Either way I choose to believe they gave the Immortals some axes and mushrooms and told them to go have fun.
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>Only adjustments Online is getting is an EW nerf
>All of them included when it was very specifically the Barricader's giganigger dual package
>Barricader is still going to be an outright better pick even in this new arrangement
lol
lmao
roflmao, even
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>>585100940
To be fair the devs only played 14 minutes of online so that is all they got to see.
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>>585100464
Baxter says nah lets get'em this time
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>>585101136
Based Baxter.
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>>585090248
glad to see they didn't fix anything regarding the online or grinding. Also the TLS which needed a nerf was untouched so get ready to keep getting destroyed by sweats
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>>585100732
>Drag the surviving Sotoan leadhership before a Nuremberg-style trial
>Every country targeted by a Spear gets to assfuck Sotoa
>All while some GRL tribesman wrings his hands
Grim
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Whats with the barricader only good ew spam recently? Is this a Growler psyop to avoid getting nerfed?
Growler can do everything the Barricader does but with bigger radius, longer durarion and more flexibility.

>EW nerf
>look inside
>just a duration nerf
Wow its nothing. This just encourages people to bring even more EW planes so they can layer them.
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>hmm today i will pick multirole and steal all the ground unit kills from our attacker
>wtf why did we lose???
why are all my teams like this
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>>585101394
I am choosing to believe that the Immortals not getting the glorious death they deserved cause Wings bullshittery constantly saving them decided to turn into a group of bounty hunters post game tracking down Sotoan war criminals hiding across Strangereal.
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>>585100353
Some anons think a Merc/Soldier/Knight morality sort of system was in the works for the game but was stripped out. There's some tangential evidence for it so that could be true.
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>>585101476
>Growler fag is back
I'll start believing you when compslop groups stop just bringing two Barricaders together
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>>585101338
TLS is the only defense against ECW, it should be buffed.
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>>585101136
>>585101283
there were filthy wool-pullers in front of him, how could he not?
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remove LAAMs from the game
BVR should not be in Ace Combat
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https://acecombat.jp/ace8news/?p=32
Knowing bandai the English patch notes are only going to available 10 minutes before maintenance ends and on the European version of their website.
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>>585100857
The ones on fatsia did refuse to surrender, but i doubt their forces on the Usean mainland had much choice given they where cut from supply and unable to retreat back to sotoa
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>>585101610
>4 had nothing, 7 had nothing
>5 had wingman commands, 8 has wingman commands
>0 had wingman commands and ace style system
9 will have ace style system maybe it will have boresight targeting too
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>>585102104
replace 32 with 35
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Excuse the jpeg woman, but how do I setup the camera so it does the sideway sways? Is this ps5 exclusive because I don't remember seeing anything in the settings.
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why is the Ladon nerf only for hard and ace? do they behave differently in those difficulties than in normal?
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>modern gaming clout is beating the game before they nerf shit in the first few weeks
I guess for S rank and other bullshit the number of flares was an issue. Doesn't make him harder just easier to take down.
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>>585102075
LAAMs have been in the franchise for about a decade now already
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>>585102235
That's non Expert controls anon
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>>585101536
Nobody in your teams care whether they win or lose. They just want to chill with their planefu which happens to be multirole.
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>>585102265
and they shouldn't be
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>>585102235
probably just leave on the default camera (Type A) and then start controlling your plane in the most retarded ways possible until you replicate the movements
probably involves novice controls and/or lots of yawing
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>>585102297
What? It's exclusive to the noob control scheme thing?
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>>585101610
It did feel in the background that was meant to happen especially with options early on in letting your wingmen do certain things i.e. letting Coster provide cover and Tasha act as bait,
Would have been interesting to see if that influenced characters by the end of the game where for example Tasha was still innocent and wanted to go back to school or was absolutely bloodthirsty wanting to murder every Sotoan on the planet depending on how you encouraged her throughout the game.
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>>585102363
Since you're not rolling and pitching to turn you do these sways like you're flying a boat so you end up with camera angles like that
It also helps keep people horizontal so they're not constantly crashing into the ground, but people still manage to do that anyway
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I'm going to catch a fourth Combee and name it after Kate.
Which of the special HGSS pokeballs should I use?
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>>585102580
my balls
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>>585102653
boooooo
I already used a dive ball for the first one.
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>>585098690
yeah my biggest gameplay gripe with the game is that despite the shadows having tons of aura theyre all total dogshit pilots and never threatening
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Infinite flares bullshit should stay, but only on Ace
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>>585102729
anon take my balls and throw them at kate now
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I'm still not sure what chain reaction they want out of me in the Fatsia mission. Feels like I've detonated every gas container I could find individually but no dice
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>>585101838
not at all, you have something called a gun. TLS is the instakill cancer, IEWS is more an annoyance then anything compared to instantly dying, can't even hide in the clouds anymore
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>>585103110
shoot the columns and they have the chain reaction of falling
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>>585066736
>THEY ALL DIE AND PULL A ZETA GUNDAM AND THEIR SOULS ALONGSIDE COPE ALL GO INTO YOUR PLANE IN THE 1V1 WITH TEWY
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Made a quick image of the changes in case someone wants to use it for the next OP.
https://acecombat.jp/ace8news/?p=35
Here's the link to the official site.
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>>585102115
Ace7 will be remembered this generation as the modern Ace4. In kind, Ace 8 will be the modern Ace5 because it's so dramatic. Thus we are set up for Ace9 being the new ultra maga-glaze.
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>>585103158
I've done that like a dozen times now and it didn't count
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>hey so um, maybe we should erase all traces of our involvement in this war, guys
>let's, um, nuke all enso order facilities, that won't look suspicious at all
>and how about we send our super advanced robot submarine to nuke the one guy who you just know is going to livestream the whole thing for the entire world to see
Not the brightest minds, eh
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>>585103110
Shoot all the pillars/supports on one side of one arm of Fatsia, wait for it to collapse
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>>585102939
I felt that was honestly intentional. Sotoans talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Whenever people stand up to them they get their ass clapped hard.
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>>585102235
>>585102297
Buff Yaw, be a Yaw buffing chad. My F22 with gigayaw is amazing feeling.
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>>585103272
The higher ups got out with zero consequences just like in real life so I'd say it worked out for them.
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>>585103290
im not sure having your game be very easy is a great stategy but I guess normies cant even figure out how missile locks work so oh well
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>>585090248
>nothing about online fixed
>they think a small nerf to ECM shit will actually do anything
Online will be dead in a month.
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>>585103224
>Pilotman
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>>585103692
Got it! Use this for the next OP please <3
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>>585100940
>>585101760
Barricader is popular because it gets ECM from the start while Growler needs to spend sixty fucking gold blueprints to unlock it. It's not that Growler is worse, it's just that it costs too much. If you have twenty gold blueprints spare then what are you going to buy? The plane which will do a good job right now and gradually get better as you save blueprints, or the plane that will require you to get fourteen more emergencies (on separate days because lol daily cap) to become good?
If you gave everyone a level 20 version of each plane for free then Growler would be way more popular. It flies worse but it has nice abilities.
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>>585103406
>im not sure having your game be very easy is a great stategy
Fastest selling Ace Combat game btw
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Surely Rex/Joker squad will be referenced in AC9
Aces in previous games stay anonymous and fade out in history, but Wings becomes a viral phenomenon in the internet era, there will be memes and conspiracies and movies and shit made about him
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>>585103110
>Targeting the pillars specifically
Wouldn't be me, I didn't bother and just used huge bomb drops to fuck up the megafloat. Because based as fuck bombs don't care about something having armor or being drone shielded. Same for Chandelier in PVP, I drink my Monster and give no fucks about flying into the gun, I just SFFS the fuck out of it from above and take my MVP home.
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>>585103856
Yes yes, which is why all the metafags went for a level 20 Barricader instead of putting that resource into a level 20 Growler.
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>>585103110
>>585103929
I just memed the place up with SODs
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>>585090248
>ECM FAGGOTS NERFED
THANK
FUCKING
GOD.
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>>585103406
They deliberately made it harder by getting rid of the health regen part I guess. Health regen part in 7 was crazy.
>>585103929
There's a medal for only hitting the pillars. If you want a completely pointless medal then you need to do it.
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>>585104048
>u mad?
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>>585104107
There's health regen in 7?
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>>585103875
anon, go ahead and try and name the top 10 viral memes of the last 2 years
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>>585104006
Being a metafag doesn't mean you have infinite gold blueprints lying around or are willing to delay gratification while you slowly build them up from emergencies that refuse to fucking spawn.
Being a metafag doesn't mean you actually understand what you're doing instead of just copying what everyone else is into either, for that matter.
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>>585103929
what the fuck you can SFFS the chamber from outside?
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>>585104352
>Growler fag can't admit "his" meme plane is irrelevant trash no one uses when provided with the basic reality of the game
lmao!
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>>585104048
Duration was probably only nerfed by like 5 seconds or some totally inconsequential shit.
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>ECM nerfed before LAAMs
dead game
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>>585104142
Genuinely. IEWS Is such bullshit because you have to try to gun a fucking superplane while Pig-31s are chucking LAAMs at you. Bullshit. Even when me and my buddy are coordinating i know its bullshit that we just turn the game off for like 40 seconds at a time which if i'm running a raptor and hes in his EW-game we just fucking stomp.
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>>585103272
"Enso Order" was a disposable shell. The real individuals behind were unknown and the trail to piece together who they were was erased by the spear strikes. In many cases the companies that took over Enso's remaining assets were ultimately controlled by the same people who were behind Enso. One shell replaced by another.
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>>585088557
>>585090323
Playing the 14A makes you based though because LAAMs are for shitter losers.
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>>585104596
ECM was unironically more of a problem than LAAMs in Warfare. But i agree that they're more of a problem in assault and genuinely ruin the game mode for anyone not running them. Hopefully the next patch they put out will address either the LAAM menace or the Typhoon/Pig-31.
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>>585104154
Yeah there's a part for it. It only regens you up to 50% hp but that's more than enough to survive a missile unless you're in a really low hp plane. You can tank an infinite amount of missiles as long as you wait half a minute between each one. Makes campaign very silly.
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>>585104714
HVAAs are just budget LAAMs that'll be the new meta if LAAMs ever get nerfed
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>>585104596
you can literally avoid LAAMs by flying in a straight line, your an idiot. TLS literally can't be dodged and IEWS negates the game itself for a period of time
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>>585104262
You know about the ghost of Kiev and that one didn't shoot down 900 fighters and destroy 4 trillion dollars worth of infrastructure and materiel and sink a skynet submarine on live video
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>>585104779
LAAMS should have HVAA tracking and not twice the tracking rate of qaam
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>>585104262
chicken jockey
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>>585104779
LAAMs have a turn rate of 150 (QAAMs have a turn rate of 75). HVAAs have a turn rate of of 55, and are better statistically in every single other way that isn't velocity. LAAMS would need to be VERY heavily nerfed for HVAAs to be the new LAAMs and they will simply never be nerfed enough for that to happen.
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>>585104779
HVAA has half the range and awful homing compared to LAAM, so it won't be anywhere near as popular. LAAM is so broken that the F-14D (a 750 base cost plane) is a much better choice for coop than the F-22 (a 1950 cost plane). That's crazy.
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>>585104107
>There's a medal for only hitting the pillars.
Wait, THAT'S what you're meant to do? I thought it was some shit about hitting the fuel tanks.
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>>585103272
Nobody important went to jail, they just lost their physical and openly Enso assets.
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>>585105142
150 tracking rate is absurd for the fat fuck phoenix equivalent . Surely they missed a decimal point and the tracking rate should be 15.
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>>585101536
Why does it matter? Do attackers get more points for the same A2G kills or what?
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>>585104395
Yes, the gun barrel is open when it's vulnerable, which means strafing runs with SFFS let the bomblets eat their meal. Dunno about UGB but this definitely doesn't work guided bombs. Only unlubed Pickles need apply.
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>>585105431
>This is the retard you get on your team while the enemy is a full meta stack
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i hope they'll let me kill strangereal elon musk and sam altman in ac9
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>>585105431
attackers do 50% more damage to ground units. in warfare, it's very easy for them to get to ace, which massively increases the points earned
the less targets they have (i.e. other people killing them), they will earn exponentially less points
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>>585105431
In warfare mode there are point multipliers for going on a kill streak. Splitting kills between players objectively produces less score than one player hoarding kills.

The objectively best scoring strategy is for one attacker to flatten the ground targets while everyone else protects him or kills the enemy attacker
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>>585103875
>Surely Rex/Joker squad will be referenced in AC
The most we are going to get is a Tasha cameo (or Kate if PA realizes were the wind is blowing)
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>>585104495
Schizo
There are at leqst 3 different people who have called you out on this by now.
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>zone of endless
ENDLESS WHAT?
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>>585105142
>better statistically
Worst statistically, obviously. Just woke up. In any case, HVAAs are really not good and if LAAMs didn't exist at least SAAMs exist next to HVAAs. HVAAs don't also fucking nuke every single AI plane from 10 miles away without fail and SAAMs require you to actively participate in guiding them. I frequently get HVAAs missing targets, LAAMs literally never fucking miss against AI and it is unbelievably fucking annoying to deal with a LAAMboat sitting 8-9 miles way lobbing LAAMs into dogfights.
>>585105392
Who fucking knows man. QAAMs do have a better homing stat, but the LAAM homing stat is still too high and still higher than HVAAs. That doesn't stop the turn rate being twice that of a QAAM from being utterly ridiculous though. The balance is just silly as fuck overall.
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>>585105687
Keep denying objective reality, I'm sure it'll work out for you any day now
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AS THE WISE BIZARRE FROM D12 ONCE SAID
BITCH, ARE YOU RETARDED
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>>585105586
Also of note is that Fullback is the only plane that gets UGBL, which is a really good weapon. That's not specifically an attacker thing (if the only UGBL plane was a multirole then that one multirole would probably be the optimal choice), but it means the best anti ground plane is an attacker.
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>>585105595
Wouldn't this also apply to air? So you'd have 1 attacker, 1 air attacker, and 2 ecms who never touch targets and only get points from ew(or player kills but only if the kill can't be fed to the air attacker).
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>>585105319
>Be left holding the Ensocoin bag, lose hundreds of billions
>Still have billions anyway, but this other money I used to dry my tears isn't enough
Same as it ever was.
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>>585104262
6 7
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>>585103406
For a lot of people this is their first AC game and never played the likes of AC4, 5 or 0 thus have been filtered hard by some early missions that for many of us find a quiet Tuesday. There are legit dumbasses going into the game thinking the game is a full on flight simulator the same style as DCS but that is a separate brand of retardation going on.
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>>585101536
Attackers are generally SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>585105878
Muh fuggin' HOTAS....
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>>585105721
I like HVAA, but you need a good initial launch angle to shove them down somethings throat or up their tail pipe. They're not like LAAMS where you get free kills from all angles. I feel like HVAA only feel "bad" compared to how ludicrously over the top LAAMS are.
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I have to hurry and beat him on ace before the patch.
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>>585105586
>>585105595
So in a team where it's 3 A2A players and 1 multirole it doesn't matter? (Other than the 50% lower damage slowing you down slightly)

Usually I find myself in the position of being the 3* A2G guy, but in a multirole
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Why do all the ai slop of Kate pornify her? She's pretty as is.
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>>585105910
The Fullback has the shared 2nd highest top speed(since the x-40 is not in online). And it has 4 body slots, and a speed ability that's actually good since it also increases accel and maneouvrability.
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>>585105784
For the air, player kills are more valuable than npc kills. You're also grossly underestimating the kind of scores that a fullback can accumulate.
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>>585105910
That's not a problem given that the only two attackers anyone actually plays aren't.
>>585106007
Yes, that too. HVAAs, for the most part, do require you to actually play the game. LAAMs are completely fire and forget bullshit.
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>>585106046
yeah, pretty much
meta is 2 fighters, an ecm, and an attacker
but if your team has no attacker a multirole ground pounding is almost as good
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>>585106148
Why is the Gripen so fast
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>>585106090
Cause ai slop is made for the lowest common denominator, ie retards with terrible taste, what else is new?
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>F-4E with gunpods against Chandelier
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>>585106542
My theory is that jap spaghetti code swapped the airframe performance values of the gripen and mig31
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>>585104912
the ghost of who? shut up unc check out this ai monkey
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>>585106712
I had a guy in a frogfoot basically solo it yesterday.
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When the fuck do I unlock MISC plane parts?
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>>585106848
In ACO? Check the Milestone section in challenges and read their unlock conditions.
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>>585105752
Did you win did you fly straight into every enemy to keep them busy
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>>585090248
>laams untouched
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>>585105931
Imagine the glazed look Kate gives Rex when she's off her pain meds. Probably gives his dick wings.
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>>585106779
Probably not, as the Gripen's turnrates fit in well with the other Doritos. Garbage at low speed, top tier at medium and high speed.
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>>585106090
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>>585092696
Tewy isn't nerfed tho
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>>585108539
Yet
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>Completely inconsequential EW nerfs
>No LAAM nerfs
>No TLS nerfs
>No economy adjustments
>No mission adjustments
>Only bright side is the apparent willingness to split Online and Offline nerfs
What a fucking joke
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If the FCU is supposed to be a conjoined Europe, does that mean Rex is uncircumcised? Asking for a friend.
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>>585106046
Flying a multirole automatically makes you a jobber in warfare sadly.
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In the next Ace game, I want a Sapan AWACS that's just Fernando Martinez from Vice City, because he's actually not Sapan at all.
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>>585090248
>Tuxbros still left out to dry
That's it. Time for a refund campaign.
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>>585107139
Bamcoded at the start of the match, which I guess makes it even more pottery.
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>>585109418
Had one game yesterday where my team was only multiroles and everyone was on the ball. The UGB guys did their job and it's fun to be the Gripen guy sniping fighters at LAAM range before you close in with SASM.
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>>585109263
honestly despite Osea existing, I get major US vibes from it considering it's federal structure and the fact that it's military is heavily modeled after the US when it comes to equipment and how it's military is structured, hell Rio Bajo kinda reminds me of Arizona a bit
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>>585085192
That’s really useful when some LAAMnigger pops your target before your missile reaches.
Love SAAMs BTW
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Can't Gault Team even do a fucking Kulbit during a dogfight?
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>>585109934
The fun part is when you figure out there's a sprinkle and Nippon and Burger in all the fake countries. Yuktobania is a young country for example, not one with some ancient slav heritage, and they're federated like the US is.
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>Death is a lonely road, we figured you needed company
>BY GOD, WE SHALL RAM INTO THE ENEMY
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>>585111903
What, you wanna go out like a wimp?
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>>585111903
>doesnt actually ram the enemy to death after all the grief they gave us

such a cop out
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>>585103240
No buff to the X-40 UAVT. That's a bummer. The most lackluster waste of money plane in the series.
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>>585112012
>>585112061
>Outnoumbered are we?
>JUST HOW I LIKE IT
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Was Fort Grays meant to be way more important or something? They take up a huge amount of time with cutscenes only to be a footnote in mission 28
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>>585112316
What's with F-4 and it having the most based pilots in all of strangereal?
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>>585112479
You've gotta be based to fly the lead sled
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>>585112586
>>585112586
>>585112586
>>585112586
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Using the A-10 online is a horror show. I had more fun in the Frogfoot than this PoS
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MY PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED
THE NATIONS ONCE UNITED
COLLIDED
Honestly wasn't sure about 8 having non-latin vocal tracks, but this is great
Still doesn't beat in the zone though
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>>585106148
Why is the Fullback so fucking fast holy shit



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