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>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.

>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcast
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>Dates
The beta ends and stress test begins on October 21.
Name reservations on October 27.
The journey begins on November 4.

>Guilds
<Daybreak Company> NA Alliance RP PvE
https://discord.gg/YSfpYdHxfj
<FUN HAVERS> NA Alliance PvE
https://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w
<Wrench> EU Horde PvE
https://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVB

Previous thread >>585054760
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faggot shit
release fresh vnd fash #nochanges already
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>>585071172
I can see them...
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undocumented mages changes after restart?
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>>585071340
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>>585071340
frost tree had too many talents its meant to be 51 points cap per tree but itwas over that after lastpatch

so they removed talents and changed things around
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Idaho Bvll here.

I'll be playing Male Tauren Warrior and will lead the official /wpsg/ guild <Soldiers of Fortune> on Forever.

Don't know me? Good.

Mark your calendars and come get away from the known namefags for good on the 4th.
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PIERCING ICE IS GONE MAGES LOSE 6% DAMAGE ITS OVER
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>>585071580
please tell me it's on pvp for once there's already 3 pve guilds
t. not even on horde
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>>585071172
hot kinky sex
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i'm really worried about this game because it seems like the only fun and engaging thing to do is level up to 60, then it basically ends
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Hung up on GW2. Looking for slow progression. Should I play WoW forever or FF14 and why?
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why do they hate shamans so much?
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>>585071580
Nice to meet you Brothe Bvll
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Aren't fist weapons always kinda shit in this game? Why is that?
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>>585072327
This qt is better than Whitemane slop
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>>585072067
the game doesnt start till 60
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wowtendies will defend this game design
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Who’s gonna bite? You know you want to.
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>>585072539
go back and stay there tranny niggerfucker
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>585072613
nah stay mad lol
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>>585072576
the diaper is because you like the feeling and not because you like shitting your pants, right?
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>>585072539
>reddit realizing how bad Warrior is in PvP
Good. Buff me. I wanna play minigames too.
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only 140 fps mon world of warcraft
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>>585072423
What tabard is this anyway. I dont remember being able to get one
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>>585072720
my monitor only goes to 120 doe?????
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>>585072648
Shit is gross. Piss is kino.
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>>585072095
I massively prefer WoW because I actually prefer playing the game. FF14 is just nonstop dialogue and cutscenes with an extremely minimal amount of combat interspersed. There are occasional dungeons and trials that you have to do that can be quite good later on but you'll really want to look up a guide for them because some of the mechanics are difficult to impossible to figure out on the fly. And it can take ages to actually get a group for them and you HAVE to do them to continue progressing the story and you HAVE to do the story.

I also tend to enjoy putting on music or shows or podcasts or something while playing wow but it doesn't really work in FF14 that well because of all of the cutscenes. I tried going back to FF14 again a few months ago and wasn't feeling it at all.
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how's RP on the beta? i used to play pvp but i don't think i can keep up with turbo gamers that spend 8+ hours a day on the game and im torn between pve and rp
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>>585072813
do you drink assloads of water so it's clear and doesn't smell?
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>>585072327
they are an after thought that's why
dagger are very fast but weak hitting
swords are supposed to be fast but hits ok
axe middle ground of fast hard hitting
polearm harder hitting but not slow
mace hardest hitting slowest

what do fist weapons provide
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>>585072834
Thanks
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>>585071492
now that mages have their autistic coc shatters back what will they complain about next
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>>585072746
Tabard of the Scarlet Enclave
SoD only
Sad, I would rock it on every private server and I wish they would add it to retail / forever
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>>585072905
Usually. I need my daily monster zero tho.
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>>585072937
fake
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>>585072937
>retail map filigree
Anon…
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>>585073041
hmm..I think I can be aroused by this
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>>585072327
where is this from?
and where did all the porn sloppers go. where the catbox links. i need this
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
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>>585072327
tbc had a decent number of good ones.
but other weapon types are easier make cool and recognizable so i think that's the reason a sword is most commonly the bis weapon dropping the endboss.
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>>585073183
Most people are to some degree, don’t feel too bad. I’m just open.
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>>585073280
would you cuck me with your favorite knot?
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>DPS rogue > DPS warrior

Are warrior unironically getting hit with the hybrid tax? There is no good argument for why that should be the case that isn't referencing 20 year old meta.
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Does forever have the vanilla 1 hour to send mail between alts thing?
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>>585072327
druids should be able to dual wield fist weapons like the ones from ZG that turn you into a tiger man.
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>>585073346
If you really want that?
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>>585072327
>Why is that?
Because vanilla is an unfinished game, which is also why a majority of the available specs are completely useless.
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>>585073351
Yeah all hybrids are getting taxed. DPS classes should deal more DPS then hybrids.
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>>585073351
>There is no good argument for why that should be the case
Warrior is a hybrid class, the devs confirmed it.
>b-b-b-b-but!!!!
Don't care, doesn't matter, devs confirmed it.
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What are your thoughts on Requiem being a last name?
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>>585073404
yes please! ^_^
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>>585073559
Sounds like something a black would pick.
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>>585073181
>retail
Worse... Shadowlands map filigree
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>>585073351
Well yes, but actually no. Because Warriors are still supposed to be the king of cleave, as said by the devs in the same episode they called them a hybrid class.
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>>585073351
If you have a problem with that then you should petition Blizzard to give Rogues a tank spec.
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>>585073632
does this mean arms will be the intended top dps cleave spec? surely, right? sweeping strikes, 2h, multi-target rend/bloodthrill?
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have they said anything about world buffs and consumes? i'm not gonna bother if all that shit stacks.
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>>585073573
You aren’t the fat bald unemployed loser from earlier….are you?
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>>585073461
You have to incentivize tank players by giving them a strong alternative. Warrior is also the slowest to level and come online.

>>585073537
>B-BUT MOM SAID-

Bloody bitch, think for yourself.
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>>585073559
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RdcngtH6rzk
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>>585071580

Should name your guild, “Transmogs IRL”
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>>585071580
retail
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>>585073810
>think for yourself.
Hmm ok.
Let's see, a non hybrid class is one that can only perform one role.
A hybrid is a class that can perform more than one role.
Warriors can tank, warriors can dps.
1+1=2
tank+dps=hybrid
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>>585071340
>>585071805
>piercing ice gone, no other changes(?)
why did they do it bros...why..
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>>585073351
Why are all warrior players like this? You're not the single best DPS in the game anymore, get over it.
>>585073810
OH! Now it makes sense. You're literally a fucking jeet and blizzard nerfing warriors hurts your izzat so you take not being the single top DPS personally as an insult. Leave it to the shitskin to play a brown class.
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>you're doing Scarlet Monastery
>you just killed Mograine
>Whitemane flashbangs your party and revives Mograine
>instead of agreeing to the two of them fighting your party, Mograine urges Whitemane to flee
>after a short back and forth and crying, she does
>Mograine goes berserk mode to hold you off while she runs
>Whitemane returns in a Scarlet Crusade raid as the penultimate fight before you fight Balnazzar
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(You) should check this out.
https://x.com/vanilla_dad/status/2111863779696816171?s=61
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>>585074101
I don't like raids where you fight people. 40 guys ganging up on 1 and it lasts more than 5 seconds doesn't make sense.
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>>585074256
Well good news for you, most raids in Forever are going to be 10 or 20 man.
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>the Horde has to wipe out the Scarlet Crusade base in Tirisfal because they're a major military threat to the Forsaken in Lordaeron
makes sense
>the Alliance has to wipe out the Scarlet Crusade because... they're extremists
wat
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>>585073961
Hybrid=healing capabilities
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>>585074256
Didn't that one chick tank like a thousand dudes or something?
Or are we thinking about different things?
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>>585074367
imperial Onyxia Occupied Government demands it
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>>585074256
This.
40 (even 20) man raids make sense against huge monsters, not human with 2.5 scale.
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>>585074256
>He can't imagine there are characters so powerful they require large groups to take down
At that point, shouldn't you be complaining that dragons don't wipe hundreds of people instantly? That's some retarded logic you have
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what's the best leveling path from 15 onwards for an alliance character? i just finished the Thanes dungeon and got to 15 after turning in everything, i left my starter zone at 13, havent touched anything else yet
how can i make it to 30 fast enough? any better zones over others? does class change it?
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reposting.


more slop like this
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>>585074392
Well, you're wrong, and the devs think so too :)
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>>585073198
I just used chat gpt on the scarlet monk npc and this is what it gave me. It takes like an entire day to refresh
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>Piercing ice damage moved to ice barrier (dispellable, temporary)
Yes nerf mage against shaman and priest even more
Just going to roll hunter and go school shooter mode
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>>585045386
But you're the mentally ill schizo
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California Tranny here

I’ll be playing human hunter and will lead the official /wpsg/ guild <Soldiers of Misfortune> on Forever.

Don’t know me? Good.

Mark your calendars and come get away from the known namefags for good on the 4th

We’re just like the other guild, but better in every way possible.
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normie friends have randomly decided to play wowf so ill probs need to raid lead for them if they even make it to 60. is MS > OS loot master the best for pug groups?
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>>585074419
I just think it's funny how the only reason the Scarlet Monastery gets raided by Alliance adventurers is because one guy in Southshore thinks they enjoy their job of purging the Scourge from Lordaeron a little too much
Like they Crusade is literally sending envoys to Stormwind for support but we're supposed to believe they think the Alliance is full of undead too
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did MoP destroy the game?
it wasnt cata, cata was cool
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>>585074713
yes but loot distribution at the end with surprise hr's
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friendly reminder ERA is thriving
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>>585074809
Warlords did irreparable damage to the game
MoP was fine
Then WoD released and everyone dipped after about a month
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>>585074551
yes YOU post more slop like this please
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>>585074551
like what?
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how is mage looking?
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>>585074809
Cata had a drop in sub count since the high in Wrath. MoP got lambasted because "pandas" even though they existed in WC3, but was honestly a fine expansion. WoD was the big fuckening for a variety of reasons, then Legion kind of brought it back, and then it's been downhill from there.
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>>585074809
Wrath destroyed it.
It made dungeons faceroll.
When they tried to return to tbc dungeon difficulty in cata the causals complained and they had to nerf them.
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>>585074809
No, it was Cata. Literally and figuratively destroyed WoW.
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>>585074945
fresh nerfs to frost an hour ago
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>>585074713
Ignore them and do whatever you planned on originally. If any of them make it to 60 (highly unlikely), the odds of it being worth dealing with running a guild for perpetuity just to keep them around are low. It’s 2026, everyone knows about this game and has for most of their lives. If they really wanted to play WoW, forever wouldn’t be their first foray. I’d just play the same server/faction as they do and say “meet me at 60” cause doing all of this for them is probably only going to gimp you in the long run.
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>>585074762
Tricked once against by Raleigh the (((Devout)))
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>>585074809
it was cata, it destroyed the old world completely changing it in areas, mop was better because it was on its own island like tbc and wrath
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>>585074367
The reason is that they've got good loot.
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after playing wotlk into cata classic i dont even know whats different in cata

cata is wrath + its basically wrath with reforging your gear stats.

wrath had two duds in naxx and togc as well, all of cata tiers were better than those two things
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>melee hunter by far best melee dps
this game sucks so bad. the devs suck so bad.
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Righteous orbs here got your Righteous orbs
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im giving mop classic a go and my warrior feels like a rogue
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What's stopping me from AoEing 4 enemies at a time as mage?
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>>585074902
>>585074962
retail furfaggots
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>>585075110
Yeah it’s a shame there’s never ever going to be another patch ever again :/
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the goodbye is close
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>>585071172
Why does it feel like prot paladin does the same or more damage than prot warriors with a 1/3 of the APM required. I'm not complaining but does prot paladin just do THAT much damage passively? And will it scale well into 60+ content?
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>>585074551
need the gnome laying down with her legs spread and hands under her knees pulling them up to her chest while she looks invitingly at you
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>>585075082
>destroyed and changed the old beloved world for no other reason than to "shake things up"
>story was dogshit green jesus
>heroic dungeons got nerfed almost immediately because of whiny babies
>raid bosses were extremely hit or miss
>>585075156
>hating on the Garrosh expansion
Check your T levels.
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>>585075207
Needed to make time in the rotation for downloading massive amounts of hardcore pornography
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>>585075071
They'd probably just give it to you if you did quests for them that involved killing X amount of undead rogues
>Hands of Righteousness! Chapeaus! Herod's Shoulder? You want it? It's yours my friend, as long as you genocide enough undead.
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>>585072696
get one (1) pocket healer and you get to dominate the minigame
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>>585074809
the end of wrath and cata, and damaged wow.
Mop was an attempt at a pivot
WoD was supposed to save wow but was instead the nail in the coffin
legion saved wow in a huge way and paved the road for the future but made some mistakes
if legion was tw steps forward, BFA was 1 step back.
shadowlands did truly irreparable damage
dragon flight and everything after it is a deathspiral
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>>585075113
why does that image have so much noise
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>>585075207
they don't
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>>585075310
It’s slop
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There's a 1:1 correlation between how mich slop gets posted in a general and how brown it is
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>>585075110
Drama queen
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>>585075293
The issue with the Scarlet Crusade is that they subscribe to the Garithos line of thinking. Which is kinda based, but it also means that most of the Alliance would be KOS.
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>>585075310
It's genuinely insane to me when people see blatantly AI pictures and can't tell its AI.
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>>585074809
TBC (Resilience, Flying) ruined the game.
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Hunters got insane buffs in Forever like pet scaling, in-combat traps, separate trap cds, spec overhaul, mana efficiency, baseline aimed shot, etc..

Meanwhile warriors got giga nerfed rage and didn’t receive any qol like in-combat charge or new utility..
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>>585075241
look in a mirror without having a panic attack
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>>585073198
>>585073198
>and where did all the porn sloppers go

herro
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>>585075454
The Hall of Champions has statues of elf and dwarf crusaders
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>>585075550
the devs desperately want everyone to play hunter judging by their actions
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>>585075310
Slop
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>>585075239
or just her doing a standing sword swallowing.
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>>585075207
Good thing your feelings aren’t reality :)
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>>585075617
Which is very weird considering the rest of their lore.
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>>585075082
Cataclysm had good dungeons (pre-heroic nerf) and raids, but the new and revamped vanilla zones were the epitome of WoW's increasingly "theme park" design philosophy. Vanilla Azeroth feels like a world. There are zones that are better or worse for questing, quests that demand that you go out of your way to complete them (even to entire other continents), and a lot of your time questing is spent criss-crossing zones.

TBC, WotLK, and Cataclysm gradually did away with all of that, and each zone was designed as a discrete, self-contained, and, most importantly, largely linear experience. Every sub-zone within a zone is designed to accommodate 3-6 quests, and when you're done with those, you move on to a different, self-contained sub-zone and repeat the process. Hyjal was a straight line. Uldum and the underwater zone were railroads of cringe. Deepholme was... okay. But worst of all were the goblin and worgen starting zones. No sane individual would ever want to play through them more than once, if that.

tl;dr fuck Cataclysm. WotLK was bad about this too, but Northrend still felt like a cohesive, believable worldspace.
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>>585075512
This. Retail sucks because all you do is fly from node to node and the expansion makes the old world completely irrelevant deleting content instead of expanding on it which makes the game super small. TBC is the start of all that.
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>>585075310
ChatGPT images suck
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>>585075550
I can't imaigne something more cucked than playing forever warrior
imagine going from classic warrior, one of the best zero-to-hero experiences in gaming, to being a gutted bitch
this only applies to dps warrior prot is broken
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>>585075878
It got the important parts correct (thighs, vagina bones)
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>>585072095
FF14 had worse everything except for two things:
•Music
•Story
Unfortunately now the story is abysmal dogshit and you can just listen to the music for free online.
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>>585075113
>>585075310
>slopping the slop
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>>585075756
Also I'm not counting the Maelstrom when I say good raids

>>585075782
I could tolerate it in TBC and WotLK, but it did get really bad with flying. I think that these expansions' areas were also carried by existing lore. I mentally check when (if) I ever do Blade's Edge or Netherstorm. Nothing matters when you can fly.
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Actually vanilla Naxx killed the game when they started properly itemizing things and letting paladins wear plate instead of a dress. These are retail qualities that have no place in the game. They even added a special snowflake caster legendary for further homogenization.
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>>585075878
>>585075745
>>585075648
>>585075113
good morning ranjesh
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>>585075941
>remove flying in WoD
>the community throws a ginormous hissy fit
>cave to the complaints
Pandora's box.
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>>585075949
we're getting closer. it was the AQ patch where you could redeem class tokens for gear
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>>585072095
>Looking for slow progression.
osrs
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>>585074962
>even though they existed in wc3
Come on man.
If you can’t understand why mop was repulsive to the average person you are lost in the wow sauce
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>>585075973
hello saar
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>>585075782
>>585075941
It was tolerable in TBC and arguably Wrath because you still HAD to go level up in the old world so it at least felt congruent and an escalation of your adventure.
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>>585075704
yeah probably because they tried to figure it out after
I mean you can't just have a major dungeon and make it horde-only
>I once served the Scarlet Crusade with honor, loyalty and pride. I believed their cause to be a noble one: to rid Azeroth of the undead.
>But as I spent time at the Monastery in Tirisfal Glades I realized that their grasp on reality was slipping. They now think everyone is plagued who doesn't wear the tabard of the Crusade. Innocent men and women were tortured because they were supposedly plagued.
>The Scarlet Crusade must be crushed in the name of the Light. You, <name>, must destroy the deranged regime.
That's literally it for why you're sent on an assassination mission with a gang of hobos to kill the entire Scarlet Crusade presence in Tirisfal
Raleigh's dialogue doesn't even make any sense because they're sending recruiting officers to Alliance lands, it's just a gaping logic hole.
Keep in mind I'm strictly talking about the Scarlet Monastery, not all the shit that comes way later. ALL you know about the Crusade at this point is
>They're fighting the undead in Lordaeron and need good men like you, night elf/human/gnome/dwarf, to help
and then
>ACTUALLY the torturer might have stuck a hot iron up the wrong guy's ass once or twice, you should wipe out their entire base of operations
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should I go orc or undead lock?
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>>585076160
troll, duh
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>>585075587
Need cute scarlet ladies buttholes stat
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>>585075949
>>585076070
I know you're shitposting but naxx and to a lesser extent aq gear does actually kill vanilla
it's too good relative to fresh 60s and TTK gets too fast, it's why resil was added in the first place
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whats the addon that shows loot in dungeons?
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>>585076070
True
>>585076201
I’m not shitposting. The game gets significantly worse on AQ/Naxx release.
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>>585075973
Its 12:26 in the morning
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DEAD specs going in to launch
>balance
>ele
>frost
>the entirety of warrior
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>>585076104
The primary complaint from the public was 100% pandas, even though there were other actual problems with the expansion like the annoying ass dailies. With that said, MOP raiding was great and Garrosh was a great villain.
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>>585074809
it's several issues compounded over years imo. cata was when a lot the cumulative effects of tbc/wotlk became very apparent, stuff like the negative impacts of flying on the open world and the removal of most RPG elements from the game. cata was also the beginning of completely streamlined questing that shunted you down a single path and never gave any reason to go back someplace you had already been, which led to the world feeling like something you pass through on your way to somewhere else rather than something alive. MoP, for as much fun as a lot of classes were to play, completely homogenized most of them at the base level. hardly any classes could do something unique to them, plus the general furfaggot/chingchong feel of MoP turned a lot of people off. shame, because MoP had some phenomenally good things from a pure gameplay standpoint, like timeless isle. WoD managed to have every issue mentioned previously, while also having less content than any expansion up to that point. in light of that, I suppose I would class WoD as the expac that killed the game, while cata and MoP were the ones that maimed it badly and left it open for the deathblow
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>>585076292
>east coast US
Basically the third world
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>>585075949
brownoid mad that there was a legendary warriors cant use, keep seething rajeesh. the first legendary of forever is a healer legendary for druids, priests and shamans.
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>>585071172
What race+class combination should I pick for my self-insert main? I've always played warrior, but I couldn't really be one since I'm a 5'6 50 kg Chinaman. I've been a conscript though so I'd still like to pick a soldierly class. But what? Rogue? Hunter might make sense, and I am also working on a hunting license IRL.
Human hunter? Undead rogue?
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>>585075973
Hello.
>catbox being gay again
https://postimg.cc/CZt5srWB
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>>585073351
imagine anyone complaining about rogues
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>>585076318
anon you have to understand that those things just don’t matter. I think most people would rather have horrible raids but a good game than the other way around
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>>585076391
>brownoid
Wrong. Nice melty tho.
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>>585076393
my female human paladin healslut
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>>585076385
Tell me your favorite mob in vanilla WoW rn.
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Isn't being able to turn invisible and pick and choose literally all of your engagements a pretty big perk for a rogue
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>>585076428
Well if we're going off of what "most people wanted" than what most people want was Wrath considering that's when the sub count peaked.
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>>585075693
yes
>>585076197
yes
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AQ is a dogshit raid. simple as
naxx is cool but it's long and consume-heavy and classic is over at that point so you don't want to keep blowing gold but that faggot mage still wants his stupid orange stick
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>>585076557
JOMJOM
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>>585076649
s-shut up
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public service announcement: enchanting is a fucking meme
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>>585076649
yeah but how does that help them stab dragons in the ass
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>>585076718
>run to the nearest enchanter trainer
>make 9 sticks
>make a green stick
>remove it
>go back to your starting zone and continue your journey
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>>585076718
No it’s not. My guild prios me for every recipe and I have a script that auto invites anyone in trade LF ench. Free money idk why everyone doesn’t do this.
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>>585076312
what's wrong with prot warrior
I wanted to main one...
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>>585076393
female hunter wolfslut
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>>585076312
All of the rogue specs unironically
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>>585076798
what anime is that?
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>>585076798
prot warrior is goated and fury prot might be a solo god
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>>585076779
well yeah besides the wand!
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>>585076737
well uh
maybe uh, i'm uh just uh gonna throw this uh out there
maybe there's more to the game than number go up in instanced raids
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>>585076798
Prot is the only good spec for warriors now
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>>585076414
this means rogues and warlocks are perfectly balanced and if you lose to them it is a skill issue
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I can't decide what to fucking play or what faction to go on the pvp server. Human and Gnome seem so busted but I feel like the people that give a shit about pvp will be rolling orc and undead.
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>>585076649
For open world and pvp, yeah. For dungeons and raids it sucks ass. Sure you "can" sap but no one wants to wait for a rogue to stealth over to a mob and sap it. Sure you can pick locks but you still have to roll on the chest like a cuck.
Most rogues don't use their utility anyway, you'll see rogues never do basic shit like kick or change their poisons to anything that helps like crippling for runners.
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>>585076798
You can play one, just don’t expect to have a raid spot. That belongs to your GM, and he gets whatever he wants. Enjoy DPSing!
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>>585076197
https://files.catbox.moe/xclgq8.png

>catbox breaks with metadata attached now

oh well
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>>585076718
It's the only profession where you can actually make money with reasonable competition because no one wants to sit in a city spamming /2 with advertisements
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no idea what to level i might have to do the level every class at the same time meta and just focus on legacy points rip raid first raider dreams
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>>585076798
All the tanks are great, he's just seething that all the tanks are great not just warrior.
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>>585077063
ohohoho
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>>585076894
Card Captor Sakura
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>>585076963
there should be a disclaimer when you roll a rogue on the pve server that rogues exist only to ambush clothies who are drinking in world pvp
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>>585076649
The that t-poses out in the open over the dead devilsaur corpse is the only thing that matters.
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Which new dungeon are you most looking forward to doing?
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>>585077005
>have to roll on the chest like a cuck
what faggots are rolling on chests with group loot. just roll off the bag if one drops. no one gives a shit about milk or leather
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>>585077048
Buttholes are truly peak
>>
>>
melee dps rankings
hunter >>>>>>>>>> paladin = warrior > feral > rogue > enhance

that's what i got from testing prebis-ish setups on wowsims
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>>585076963
rogues are also very much an acquired taste for BGs because of how big of a slave to cooldowns you are
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>>585077307
>testing with a bunch of numbers we don’t have cocnrete yet that are absolutely going to change
Wow anon you’re so smart!
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>>585075704
They really only devolved into the kkk later. There were lines about their paranoia getting so bad they thought everyone was plagued but I don't recall anything about them specifically purging non-humans in their ranks. They just lost them in combat and their main recruiting pool was the poor fuckers stuck in Lordaeron, so by the time of WoW its all they had.
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>>585077048
Blessed sloppa poster
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>Class that is supposed to be the counter for cloth casters
>Erm.. Why can't I just shoot you with spells from max range this is literally like being raped?
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>balance druid with herbalism
>swimming up and down Darkshore farming stranglekelp
>ganking night elves while they're busy fighting murlocs, crabs, and threshers
>chain rooting them until they drown
This will be me in 2 weeks
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Never seen anybody with this staff desu
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>>585077457
Who?
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>>585077476
i had it in som on my warrior(lol)
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>>585077381
Yeah I could be misremembering WotLK and Vanilla Scarlet lore and the order of events DESU.
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>>585077373
yes they can change anything but that's currently how it is
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they should wait 2 weeks after launch and then give rogues cloak of shadows
all i'm saying is that if I was a lead dev of a game and mained rogue that's exactly the shit i'd do
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>>585076506
>>585076868
You misunderstand. I am a man, so my self-insert character must therefore also be male.
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Hunters should get Lupos
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>>585077540
i might've sold it i dont remember actually probably desu, i had dragons call and almost got ironfoe but i lost the roll crazy luck those days i wish i had the screenshots but i cleared my folders
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>>585077569
The lead dev mains paladin, your natural counter. Good luck piece of shitto
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>>585076779
how do you plan on getting a magic essence asap?
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Bring it on pinkboi
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>>585077693
Going off the brief stint of me trying Undead Warlock, the UC vendor sold it in limited quantities. Simply get there before someone else buys it or camp the shop and get it.
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>>585077775
tall order.
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>>585076414
All the shaman entries are nerfs though.
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Exactly how much faster will I level in Tirisfal versus durotar
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Remember the one's defending this shovel ware cash grab won't even be playing it
You still have time to get a refund, deprive these literal shit eaters and mentally ill schizo spammers their safe space by letting blizzard fucking die
Don't fund the salaries of subhuman faggots and fat women that literally hate you
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>>585077569
They should just give us a talent that gives us a cloak of shadows proc on vanish.
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>>585076147
The scarlets supposedly do kill innocent humans they think could be plagued. But the question is where? There's like no other humans settlements nearby them in game at least. But dispite this they seem to do not even be half as bad as what the Forsaken are up to
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>>585077894
I like Vanilla tho
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>>585077894
You could convince every single person in this thread to refund and nothing would change. Shut up retard.
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>>585077894
no thanks
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>>585077958
nice, more
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>>585077756
>CSL babble
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>>585077894
You know you can play it with just sub, right?
You paypig for the retarded blue elf race and paypig some more to have beta access.
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>Sally Whitemane wets the bed
Scandalous…
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>>585076414
Less changes seem to be better since shaman is fucking dead as hell and each update has made it worse.
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ZOG YOU
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>>585077935
The entire premise of the Alliance being anti Scarlet Crusade(without knowing about the dreadlord) is fucking insane and horrible writing, but I think it was probably a last minute addition to tack it on so Alliance players get directed to this dungeon with tons of gear and a giant level range

Still not as bad as writing as the fact in retail the Scarlet Crusade somehow STILL exists and is still a threat to a world that has defeated cosmic gods multiple times now
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i have analyzed all of the tournaments duels and have come to the conclusion we must nerf horde racials further, everyone was playing horde
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Alright, let's hear how to fix Shaman.
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>>585078229
>100% horde play rate
Disgusting
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>>585078230
add dual wield and lash lash
remove lava burst
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where is the skyborne starting zone on the map to click into it
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They should just remove rogue, shaman and balance from the game at this point.
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>>585078230
first of all they have to fix the base damage on the spells
right now they just have lower base dps on their spells than other classes
when they lowered the base damage of all spells they fucked over shaman harder than everyone else for some reason
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>>585078230
add a new spell thats just a reskinned mind sear but lightning
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>>585078016
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>>585078401
The retail devs didn't think that far ahead when tasked with making their zone.
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>>585077935
It's funny how on retail, they made them go to Northrend to supposedly go fight the Scourge at its base.
Then in Cata, they turned them into undead as to "haha now they became what they always hated look at these stupid racists!"
Then in Draggyfaggyland they made them claim the empty base that was Gilneas (plundered by Sylvanas' undead) with which the horde undead benevolently assisted the alliance to reclaim.
Finally in The War Within, they made them humans again, who go around the Arathi Highlands (reclaimed by the Alliance during the Battle for Azeroth) because there are these brown orcs who claim the soil to be theirs, so you go around with Danath fucking Trollbane and that donutsteel one-armed nigress and kill humans so that the orcs would have a place to occupy.
Posting *it* for good measure.
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>>585078230
For ele give them back old elemental mastery, make chain lightnings base cast time 2.5 again and make elemental alracrity reduce chain lightnings cool down to 1.5 like it is now and remove lava burst.
For enh just make windfury weapon stack with windfury totem so enh shamans dont need to nerf themselves for the raid.
Also make all totems baseline instead of having to waste talents on unlocking totems and upgrading totems, all the other classes got rid of those kinds of talent points.
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How do you think Whitefang would react, knowing she's lusted after thus?
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Remember

Alliance
>Indians, streamercucks and trannies larping as white chuds
Horde
>White chuds larping as niggers
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>>585078029
>>585078125
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>>585078193
Logically they would just have been absorbed into the argent dawn again by wotlk when uther showed up
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>>585078519
lmao
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https://www.wowhead.com/forever/guide/classes/paladin/protection/discussion-on-implementation
>I do not see a future where there are not continuous sweeping changes that apply to this class, but Protection in particular, to make it keep up. This spec is plagued by a myriad of systemic issues that stem from the original flawed foundation of the class.
>The way this class has been implemented into WoW: Forever is a mistake.
It's fucking over for us pallybros, this class is doomed.
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>>585078563
Holy fuck Retail cutscene animations are dogshit. Bitch talking like a WC3 Grunt.
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>>585078652
All of the streamers are on horde silly little nigger
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>>585078652
I’m not here to disagree with you I’m just here to point out that both sides claim to be the “based” faction so often in this thread that all you’ve done is muddy the waters and prove there’s shitters everywhere. You can’t run. You can’t hide. You will be forced to interact with chuds, libtards, and troons if you intend to play this game. ‘Murica baby.
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>>585078563
Culture war shit aside, holy fuck that cinematic looks fucking awful.
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Alliance are getting Murlocs
Horde are getting Ogres
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>>585078759
nta but streamers are all going back to alliance, everyone was on horde for the tournament and to avoid asmon. Asmon is going pve alliance so theres no reason to avoid alliance.
Retard streamers like payo and all those losers confirmed they're going alliance pvp with only a couple staying horde.
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Can someone explain the failings of SoD so I can temper my expectation of Forever. Did they just not patch it at all after making sweeping changes?
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>Quick let's argue about balance in the level 30 streamer dueling tournament
>This is really important when everyone that isn't a content creator whose livelihood depends on staying in blizzard's good graces can see the flop of the century coming
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>>585078563
>they turned them into undead
This is actually a pretty good way to explore the faction. Theoretically as we see with Lillian Voss and how much stronger being undead can make a crusader. This couldve been even how they might have introduced undead paladins if they weren't retarded
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>>585078563
Holy fuck this is real, isn’t it? No memes, no bullshit, I cannot fathom how people still play retail. There’s simply no way that anyone still playing that game started before BFA.
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>>585077048
excellent
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god tier

kellysucks
azamous
tinyviolin
doomhowl serial killer

high tier

payo
dwarflord
nohitjerome
pshero
germanicus
alexensual
jokered
meco
grubby
staysafetv
asmongold with mcconnell

mid tier

swifty
bellular
jediwarlock
madseason
asmongold solo

low tier

xaryu
guzu
sodapoppin
pikaboo
tyler1

shit tier

pilav
shobek
ziqo
savix
snutz
greekwario
esfand
tipsout
mitch jones
maldavius figtree
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>>585078913
Pic related is the only thing you need to know about why SoD failed. This is an issue Forever won't have.
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>>585078986
Gayest thing I’ve seen all day and I’m a troon
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>>585078986
Nice gold buyers tier list
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>>585078737
WC3 unironically has better animation in cutscenes now with the new campaign
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>>585078986
Jediwarlock and 420zone are the only entertaining content creators because they put effort into squeezing some semi-original content out of a beaten dead horse
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>>585078986
pshero is shit tier, cheats and still loses, 0 personality, 3rd worlder
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>>585078563
Was that generic librarian looking NPC really a big bad of a patch?
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>>585077381
>>585076147
You have to remember they're all being manipulated this whole time as their leader is possessed by a dreadlord.
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>>585077894
ok
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>>585079230
No she is later redeemed and becomes friends with the black lady. Who then uses her stump arm to penetrate her asshole.
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>>585079345
Oh well now I have to play retail.
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>>585078946
Tbh even the most loyal redditors haev given up on the story after the latest *shocking tragic moment*.
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>>585079017
forever is going to have the opposite problem where based sweatlords rush to 60 in 2 weeks and immediately start ruining the game for all the reddit dads
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>>585079345
hot
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>>585079432
2 weeks is very slow
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>>585078986
God tier
Kalvish, UltraFatherTV, Lawlman, VanityProjects, Bajheera, Lord_Fonky, Goldzen_tv, GeneralBardock, the_earthling, Nofnof_, Omnikevfka, MajGhostPants, luckydragon1118, xPA5510N, kuhtastrophe_, Nethia, Shawnawnigans, jrad_ownz

High tier
Pookiex0, Charrend, notmes, Hansol, Mrkmndzz, BLITZpert, KillakTV, DefinitelyNotRogerr, STORMX, wildgracetv, Flummy, SufferinTV, Metaxolo, slumplordx, Kalamazi_247, HollapenoWoW, BEAMURX, Luriitara, th_looney_panic, harukabun, LuckyAyce, creationlawlz, Jerrxi, OzzDaGreat, maxlols, Faylaxp, Exzistancetw, Naef_TV, RatBoyLeaky, slothfromtree, houseofclo, Respls, MidiFM, VodkaMage, QtcupcakeTV, Immortality_LIVE, Android_Mercys, jimblopoppins, NothotLive, dirtydeeds424, kanjang7, yumytv, Zenzohx, Nat20ftw, hurricanlord, Letchwow, Save_st, Merc_Mauricio, TheFridgeGoddess, xKrayzieLovex

Mid tier
summit1g, Graycen, Crendor, zorthas, JurdiJD, Chromie, LevelUpKent, Cryssy, xSolo, WowGrandma78, mikjeane, noxiv, Shalathe, Blaziins, Lookiezi, cnewbster, NiteNightKid, Zoltan, Revass, khumiwow, Melonsicle, ChickIRL, BamaTV, WillBoof, Altofunk, Erikius, Zwhitty, TheHOMIEforrest, Lithonion_, classic__andy, gp_at_home, HarshGGZ, remingss, teknikhul, MiniManyRekt, letsgua, Isoka89, JuicedRacing, tioloko_lives, Yeahmybadlol, Bowborne, treehugger4422, CoffeeZoomer, FelipeNeLi, mageyoutwitch, chrystas, phin_21, metashi24, FrostylarooTV, Thamiel13, CherryyHime

Low tier
BatGasm, AnimeloverWoW, DesiHeat, morriganxwow, Ludessa, TwixThis, SubtleFW, fossilzlol, Daddy0ps, Alacor, KeroKatt, Joana, Valaveron, BigStoot, Duckysita13, mehrsieglinde, soapvods, Sunflower_Dawn_, Bunnie_Rabbit_, GravyTheHuman, RuinTV, Lilyttv_, Mifodey, ReadyPlayerAlli

Shit tier
Taiwon, Ari_n0x, RainbowPartyMix, teeforthesoul, SammyWolfGX, yims12, MattrixxzGaming, DroTheCrow, backbeard_, Talykras, scooterclaw, THONGPARTY, RINIX3616, DanzNukeEm, Niipplets, illidoogs, EliteRetro420, Heracranosx, Ferruzo_Doto, semapi88
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Is catbox ded? I’m trying to bring peak to the masses
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>>585078986
>I actively watch them and look forward to seeing them make new videos
doomhowl serial killer
>I like em but don't watch them
shobek, germanicus
>Alright blokes but I would never watch them
Savix, warlockguy
>I never want to see these subhumans ever again
payo, nohitjerome, asmongold, madseasonshow, zaryu, guzu, soda, pikaboo, tyler1, ziqo, maldavius figtree, barny
>Don't know or don't care
the rest
>These niggas cheated / bought gold in a beta and still loss lmao
snutz, payo, ziqo and pshero
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>>585079225
mid tier for me means their content is just alright. not bad, not particularly good. ill put it on when im eating but im not going to get amped if they upload. so jediwarlock is exactly where he should be. the most entertaining wow content is mostly hardcore griefers imho.

>>585079228
you've convinced me, im probably going to drop him down a few tiers next update. i mostly only watch him when he's playing with payo.
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>>585078986
alex is god tier though
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>>585079230
>big bad of a patch
No it was an optional "epilogue" questline and she was literally just some strawman they made up so the afraid old white man and a young spry crippled nigress who does and knows everything better have someone to fight.
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>>585079432
The actual true genuine poopsocking sweatlords will be 60 within 1 week.
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why do people ACTUALLY dislike soda? he doesn’t do 90% of the obnoxious shit the other “creators” do because he’s been rich since he was like 18 and doesn’t give a fuck about viewership any more. I’m not even trying to defend him. Give me a reason to dislike him and I will. I just don’t get it outside of the fact that he’s another big streamer?
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>2 weeks
>1 week
I give it 4 days tops, maybe even faster.
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>>585078597
She wore a leotard with no panties and her ass hanging out. She damn well knew and encouraged it.
>>585079149
Even the original Arthas vs Illidan fight was leagues above that mess.
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>>585079524
yeah but a couple of ritalin addicts hitting 60 in a week doesn't matter
in 2 you'll start to get a critical mass of people at endgame and the rogues in redridge/stonetalon/stv will start to become an issue
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Beta over, what now?
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>>585079551
Any vtubers? I only watch vtubers.
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First 60 will likely be on day 1, end of day 2 at most. Depends on if a select few people are displaying their screen at certain points in their leveling process while streaming and if a handful of things get hotfixed
t. Cabalanon
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The fomo is real. I'll be on holiday for the two and a half weeks before the raid opens. Is it worth rushing to 60 in the first two weeks, or should I just take a chill pill? Opening the raid four weeks after launch is fucking retarded
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>>585079772
now the beta begins
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>>585079697
Streamers will always have a big group of haters regardless of them actually being entertaining to watch or how good/bad of a person they are.
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>>585079697
According to Savix, he's REALLY bad about letting internet trolls get to him
I don't really see that as a bad thing, he's only human
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>>585079252
And? Raleigh doesn't know that
Nobody in the entire Alliance knows that
You as the player won't know that until you do Stratholme at 60
There's simply no satisfying reason anyone in the Alliance would want to kill them except for the fact that Raleigh offers you a potentially BiS weapon for your leveling range
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>>585079802
>day 1
Servers are on fire, nobody is getting anything done.
>day 2
Speedrunners are contending with mob tagging.
>day 3+
Speedrunners escape the crowd. Now it's down to who figures out the best path with the new quests they've added.
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>>585079817
>opening raids as the xmas holidays starts is retarded
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>>585079432
I'll be done in 1 week
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Somone got a rested XP code for alliance ?
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>>585078918
The fact that you retards think it’s gonna flop is hilarious. Stop getting your perspectives from fags like Alexensual and Ivan the Fag Biker
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>>585079802
its funny they hotfixed the apple quest, we could have been 60 in what 5hours
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1 to 60 in 5 hours once someone finds an exp exploit that will be hotfixed later that day
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>>585080016
That shit isn't going to be optimized for at least a week, there's literally no point.
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>>585079909
Wrong, but that’s okay. Streamers will have connection prio, they already quietly did it during beta and it’s confirmed to exist. I won’t argue with you because everything is a “trust me bro” right now. But I’m in the correct discord chats to have this information. You can screenshot this. We may very well see a 20-30 hour 1-60. Granted, everything we’re seeing might be hotfixed out. Apparently one of the quest designers is triple checking quests again today. But I’m confident they’ll miss a lot.
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>>585080073
>rolls back the exploiters xp with a 3 day suspension
heh nothin personnel
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>>585080016
>using restedxp
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>>585080079
so your saying i shouldnt play for a week
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>>585080064
Yall have no idea just how many other quests like that exist. If there were a way to gamble on it, I’d be betting on a 60 by end of day 2 with quite a bit of money. Day 1 wouldn’t surprise me at all if things are even relatively stable though.
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>>585080016
google restedxp ownedcore
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>>585079697
Every single time I've ever seen him he as been an obnoxious cunt getting mad at things that don't matter while raging calling everyone stupid.
I don't like watching negative people complain about everything like saying "OH MY GOD MY CLASS IS SO FUCKING SHIT, DRUIDS ARE UNPLAYABLE" like every clip I saw of him talking about druids in the beta. If I'm watching someone I want that person having fun having fun and being positive.
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>>585080171
lmao is restedxp really so easy to get that it's just straight up posted on ownedcore?
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>>585080125
Nothing beats the usual mob tag into group kill so one guy gets boosted to 60 in a few days
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>>585080125
Worth it.
>get 60 with no effort
>3 day vacation
>still one of the only 60s on the server after 3 days
>now im recharged AND ahead
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>>585078719
vanilla paladin sucks.
a lot of stuff in vanilla sucks. and some ideas from later expansions are actually better than the ideas they had for vanilla.
blizz should be willing to learn from the mistakes that previous devs made and steer "forever" in a different direction. instead it feels like they want to bring back the worst implementation of pally (and other things) just because it was done that way in vanilla.

vanilla was never finished. it was released in an incomplete state.
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>>585080216
>millennial
>25-34
is this pic from the 2010s?
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>>585080232
its been like that forever retard
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>>585080169
i wish i knew, i just want my priest to 60 asap, quests sucks, dungeons are not even worth it, 2019 i just grinded 1-60 in a week wanding mobs but i dont know if i want to do that again, it was good money though
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>>585080232
Once you buy it, you can do whatever you want with the file. There’s nothing stopping an entire guild from going in on a singular purchase together and just sharing the file between themselves. RXP is shit though, intentionally gimped to keep plebs behind while collecting their lazybux
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>>585080258
meant to say the character rollback PLUS the vacation. if it's an isolated high profile exploit you bet your ass the levels are getting rolled back
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>>585080273
>is this pic from the 2010s?
2025, ph insights
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>>585079017
>>585079432
the only way you could have "leveling raids" was to pause the level cap. why do BFD if you could just play the game for a couple more hours and skip it.
"failure" doesn't even make sense.
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>>585079697
he's one of the most checked out and boring wow content creators. why would i ever watch his content when there's like two dozen other people that are way more entertaining. the only thing i will give him is that he's one streamer whose views most often actually align with the classic player base. a lot of streamers are zoomers, or came from retoilet, or just have streamer brain worms and produce the most dog shit takes on how blizz should handle the game. soda will 9 times out of 10 have the most reasonable take that most players will agree with on any given situation.

does that make his content entertaining? fuck no. i'm just giving you the only redeeming quality i can think of that he has.

also as a personal aside he has no problem promoting mitch jones gambling streams for cash. mitch is both a gambling and drug addict that almost certainly needs help and soda is one of his only friends and just enables him instead of doing anything. makes me think he honestly has zero integrity deep down and is kind of a low key psychopath that can be easily bought and will do anything for enough money. i think he's checked out cause he's been doing this shit for so long and that contributes to why his content sucks.

he's simply fine with doing the bare minimum and riding the streamer train as long as he can. so yeah he's fucking boring dawg and there's two dozen other people i can think of with more entertaining content so he gets low tier which is where he belongs.
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>>585080232
yeah they have to have the enitre thing open source to be an allowed addon, so the encryption is easily available
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>>585080351
They won’t do rollbacks. 23 years almost of people exploiting the fuck out of the game on release and not once has an account been rolled back. Banned, yes. Rolled back, never. It is 100% always worth exploiting.
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>>585080274
Why would I be a retard if I've never used or even tried to find a scam addon? It's just funny that a paid addon is so easy to find for free.
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>>585080216
>red head
Don't mind if I do.
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>>585080351
doesn't happen. when streamers bought gold and we caught they used some of that gold for enchants, to level professions and buy some gear and they kept all that.
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why does hunters have a better hamstring?
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>>585080390
This reads like schizophrenic drivel considering Soda despises Mitch which invalidates 90% of what you said. For the other 10%, I appreciate his apathy and “negativity”. It’s nice to see someone that isn’t just busy sucking blizzard off cause their ability to house and feed themselves is dependent on being in blizzard’s good graces.
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>>585079697
>why do people ACTUALLY dislike soda?
I don't dislike him, I'm a zoomer but this dude is a fucking crybaby and his ADHS is annoying. I'm sure hes a good guy, but he's literally a manchild. People who grew up on social media without having a normal life or job have some really weird tendencies.
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>>585080375
The player dropoff after each phase was enormous and shortly after the final patch the game hard died off. It is the most dead version of official WoW available right now. I'd call that a failure.
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>>585080532
because they are a ranged class oh wait
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>>585080501
Sally redmane
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>>585080532
hunters are the hero class
traditionally it was endgame scaling where they fell flat but if SoD is any indicator they're just the protagonists of this game
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>>585080216
feet are lame
romance, VR is due to loneliness
vertical video is retarded
i think this list is dumb
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Hit a new low in here with multiple posts trying to rank eceleb grifters
What's next, gonna have asmongold judge your dragon and dog dildo collections
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>>585080351
exploit early and often
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>>585078129
Why did this give me a boner?
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>>585080568
>Soda despises Mitch

Okay then why does he keep taking paid sponsorships to appear on mitch's gambling company streams?
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>>585080532
>esl brown warrior complaining hunters, the ranged class with a dead zone, have a skill similar to theirs thats slightly better
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>>585080573
>ADHS
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>>585079879
No but it DOES explain their hostility to the Alliance.
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>>585080694
>>esl brown warrior complaining hunters, the ranged class with a dead zone, have a skill similar to theirs thats slightly better
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>>585080636
catbox is kill?
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How does ranged weapon speed work with classes that can’t auto shoot
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>>585080216
>party

what does this even mean, is it like the context of a party or is it another word for group sex
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>look at mage talents ingame vs talent calculator on wowhead
>literally every damage spell talent has nerfed damage vs the previous patch
did mage damage get blanket nerfed today? can any mage confirm?
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>>585080869
Group sex, yeah.
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>>585080869
Probably means public sex at a party
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>>585080835
Well a class that cannot equip a ranged weapon just isn't affect by ranged weapon stats. Ranged attack power and speed does nothing for a shaman, paladin, or druid
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how much of a thoughtless golem do you have to be to use an addon that tells you what to do and where to go? You couldn't pay me to use that shit.
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>>585080209
Yeah but on the other hand, boomkin DOES currently suck so I would be bitching too
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>>585080636
>feet are lame
If you grew up with hentai, doujins, xitter, ig and unlimited boobs, pussies and asses, they suddenly became something new and rare, especially because women have ugly feet most of the time or hide them because they are insecure.
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>>585080636
link is busted
>>585080898
gothmane sexo
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>>585080934
Ok but the class can equip a ranged weapon
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what is everyone going to play until launch?
I started playing bloodbourne on pc but idk if I'll have enough time to beat it
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>>585080998
nah that's just you bro
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>>585077958
>AI renders/upscales do better vanilla faces than HD Blizzard versions
This will never not be sad
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>>585080959
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>>585080636
>feet are lame
They're not, but I suspect the reason pits are being pushed now is due to feet being more mainstream
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>>585081037
Which class are you referring to? Because every class that can equip a ranged weapon or wand has a ranged auto attack button.
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>>585080636
https://litter.catbox.moe/eef196.jpg
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Trying to figure out what I want to play when the game actually launches, and I'm hoping people who have paid more attention to the changes and whatnot here can help me out.

I want to play 2 characters, one on each faction and each a different class, and I've narrowed it down to these six options within 3 classes. It's either dwarf/troll hunter, human/orc warlock, or dwarf/tauren shaman, and these are how they would look if I created them.

There's an issue where there's only 1 playset for PVP instead of multiple servers, so I'll only ever get to play PVP on 1 faction, which is strange but I guess is the reality of things. Should I make my PVP character horde or alliance, and which of these should it be? As for my RP playset character, which do you think I should play there? I'm really stuck on this.
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>>585080959
this mans class? retribution paladin
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>>585081132
Warriors and Rogues don't have auto-shoot.
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>>585081158
Prot warrior/BM hunter :3
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>>585081132
No they do not. They can only shoot.
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>>585081043
yea i was playin that too im just running and lifting hard and hopefully i pull my acl or something and cant move for a month
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>>585081158
You and I both know that's an automatic flag for BM hunter.
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>>585081152
play human warlock on the pvp realm
trust me you are going to have a blast
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>>585081182
Yes they do. They always have.
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>>585080959
If woman hot, if man seek assisted suicide
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>>585080959
What the hell
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>>585078719
Should I just go prot warrior then?
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>>585081186
nice to know my tank will be fully pamp'd up in case an accident happens.
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>>585080869
Really important, because zoomers missed out on parties during covid and being lonely in gerneral, so porn cope watching a party turning into gorupsex with the boys is important.
>>585080959
lmfao
>>585081081
trvke
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>>585080959
how you gonna use that while diapered up?
gonna have it on your desk to throat it?
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>leveling all nine class toons to 25 and getting the six 150+ Tradeskills amongst them, (given you'll get 9 from leveling, 6 for the Journeyman Professions and 1 from whatever other bullshit you can get done before 25), before focusing on each one with full perk options
Good strategy or too autistic and/or missing some data about the legacy system I didn't remember?
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>>585080959
Please have a vagina
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>>585081250
It's not technically an "auto" shoot but ranged stats should still affect them.
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>>585081250
No, they don't.
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>>585081043
replaying dark souls 3 and horror games
you should have enough time, bloodborne is not that long
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>anon complains about streamer ranking discussion
>leads to the absolute ludo kino of dog dildo posting

yeah imma need an apology NOW!
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>>585081314
if you stick around for five minutes you'll see it's a diapered trans "woman"
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>>585081152
horde on the RP server wont have many people so its better to go alliance
so that would leave horde for PVP, which will always be missing healers so if you dont mind healing on your tauren shaman that would be the best pick
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>>585080959
>the hair under the knot
fucking hell
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>>585081309
It's fine if you're not gonna raid at launch
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>>585080835
they can press their shoot button more often
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>>585081376
Grim
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>>585081296
Just move it to the side usually
>>585081314
>>585081254
I’m a troon but let’s be real you knew that already. Good news is I happen to be hot too, if you’re into girls like me ;3
>>585081269
:3
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>>585081043
I finally have a GPU with DLSS so now I can actually play FF7 Rebirth which was sitting on my SSD, unplayable as the game doesn't work without it.
Pretty fun actually but you gotta take it slow, you'll burn out if you try to marathon it.
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>>585081309
you dont need any alts to get all the legacy points you need
just focus on your main
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>>585080954
It really helps locate things that are impossible to find
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>>585081462
show cage
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>>585081309
meh the legacy points are basically a 10% at best in levelling speed. YOu'd get more use getting a 60 to max with dual gathering and make a ton of gold and get boes and enchants/consumes etc for your alt army, also youd probably be able to buy some boosts by the time you get enough gold on your main also you get like 20 legacy points just doing shit on your main
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>>585081495
I can’t do that here anon. I do keep a flat on though, usually.
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>>585081258
it's a much safer bet
I don't think blizzard knows what they're doing with paladin
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>>585081525
Those have been inside of you....
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>>585081478
You need 10 to max out Talented which is a lot of fucking points to get with one character. That's basically
>3 for getting to 60
>6 from professions to 300 if you take 2 crafting
>1 from the initial set of dungeons
At that point would I even want to make another character?
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>>585081462
Are you into 24 y/o blond, blue eyes, 5'11 normies with a mommy kink?
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>>585081525
We’re all faggots here, some are just willing to admit it. Nice toys anon ;3
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>>585081581
no, which is why talented is a total meme
by the time it's useful everyone will have tons of 60s
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>>585081036
https://litter.catbox.moe/dva2g9l1bs0ucnni.png
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>>585081559
Yeah I'm still undecided, but they definitely need to give paladin tanks a taunt separate from judgement.
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>your healer is sitting on a dog dick dildo mid dungeon
explains a lot actually
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>>585081581
exactly, and you wouldnt even need talented
you pick the life/mana regen while leveling, once you hit 60 you respec to the profession talents to max your professions, once everything is done you respec to resourcefullness to get the honor and rep talents
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>>585081141
took a min to load but worked eventually
need her looking over her shoulder while she's railed from behind
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>>585081616
No, I’m a sub myself. Good luck tho anon keep those pamps packed.
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>>585081525
average gnome priest player
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>>585081551
catbox
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yep i'm ready
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Just mention Asmongold's name and they instantly run to show everyone what they shove up their faggot asses
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>>585081663
>talented is a total meme
It's an absolutely massive power boost while you're leveling, getting your keystone abiltiies 5 levels earlier is huge for some classes. Yeah it doesn't do anything at 60 but it's really big before that.
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>>585081657
Hot
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>>585080756
I think it actually makes it even weirder. Encouraging self destructive zealotry makes sense in the context of the initial war, but after the LK and dreadlords broke up their primary beef was with him and the crusade became a tool for revenge, so why are they doubling down on weakening their own asset? And why did it get even worse after they were gone?
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>>585081718
why aren't you healslutting like a good girl?
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>>585081705
U jelly?
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>>585081760
>not having a slave friend to craft for you on launch so u have less downtime
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>>585081760
did you do that blacksmithing sword strat?
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>>585081774
>he doesn't have a dog dildo to share with /wowfg/

hahahahahaha look at this retoilet player
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>>585081705
Hardcore
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>>585081778
the effect is amazing, but the impact it will actually have on (You) is zero, unless you plan on maxing out every class or something
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>>585081814
Healing is boring. I’m a slut but I prefer to enjoy games when I’m playing them.
>>585081759
Eh, I have a relatively large online presence I’d prefer to not risk outing myself to the psychos in this thread
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>>585081917
The point is having your class come online earlier while leveling which massively smooths out the leveling
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>>585081853
I'm straight, why would I need one?
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>>585080959
>>585081525
Where are you fucking whores from? I want you to join my polycule harem. I'm the dps, my ftm bro is the tank. I need you for my party.
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>>585081963
>I'm straight
>obsessed with talking about peoples asses

doubt.jpg
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>>585081953
its 5 levels difference, the time it took you to unlock talented you could have been miles past those 5 levels, and giving your alt twink gear has a much bigger impact than the 5 points
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how do I groom a gamer dad into giving me gold and mtg boosters
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>>585081948
Out yourself to me please, I won't tell anyone
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>>585081853
wowHIVg
wowAIDSf
same thing
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fresh forever beta when
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it's so over
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>>585081996
Sounds like a pretty chill group desu if you guys aren’t trash at the game and playing on NA PvP I’d consider joining in you
>>585082026
Sorry anon, I’ll have to simply exist as an ethereal dream for you. Not worth my sanity.
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>>585081953
I mean it's classic, the leveling isn't that hard regardless.
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>>585081830
nop
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How fucked am i if i dont buy the restedxp addon?
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>>585082043
Did warlock really become FOTM over a duel tourney…
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i want to have sex with the /wowfg/ posters that own dildos
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>>585082015
Uh they are trans doe.
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>>585082173
>buy
lol
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>>585082173
just pirate it @ ownedcore
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>>585082025
Roll fem NElf or SKElf priest or druid
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>>585081953
anon, I agree with you on the merits of the legacy point named Talented
what I'm saying is that it's impossible to even GET Talented until you've made several 60s
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>>585082173
You're pretty fucked for even considering buying it
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>>585082092
>NA PvP I’d consider joining in you
EU PvP Alliance ...
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With this amount of off-topic spam posting, it really makes you wonder why you get so butthurt when it's thrown back in your faggot faces
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>>585073353
in forever it's instant unless servers are fucked
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The thing that stops me from buying a vibrator is not that it's a waste of money, but the fear it feels too good and I'll just turn into a gooner that gapes myself for pleasure and
This has nothing to do with WoW.
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I’m straight as hell, well maybe not according to some of you retards. But if a tranny passes for a woman and she’s hot I couldn’t care less if there’s a dick in the way I’m still destroying that hole.
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>>585082173
It's a total meme regardless if you buy or pirate it. They don't even have info on anything past 30 so the guide is going to be utter shit.
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>>585082092
Please just let me blackmail you for sexual favors, it would be really hot
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>>585082310
based, the greeks had it right
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>>585082287
Tragic
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>>585082174
Do not underestimate the cattle mindset of stream watchers.
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Remember the one's breaking every single one of the board and website's rules are the mentally ill schizos not the people that call out their rule breaking behavior
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i want to fuck /wowfg/ posters in the ass and hit their bitch switch and make them reroll from DPS to healing for me
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>>585082267
Not true, you can max it out pretty easily with 1 character as I showed with the math. You also get a point really easily by reaching rank 1 in pvp which you'll get just from casually doing BGs. My point is again that if you put in the effort to get a character to 60 AND get both professions to 300 assuming you went tailoring/echanting, how much motivation will you still have to make an alt?
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since im a fat fuck i always name all of my characters after food fuck, what are some things i may not have thought of that are tasty and fun sounding, nothing class/rave specific like beef wellington cause im fat not a loser
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blizz stealth nerfed every single damaging mage talent today btw
pyroblast, blast wave, ice lance, ice barrier, arcane wrath, you name it, they nerfed it
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>>585082434
How is that my problem, I'm not playing mage
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>>585082408
I haven't seen the tranny flag avatarfagging this thread. He was ban evading for a while
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>>585076868
more
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>>585082353
I’m afraid I can’t do that anon. If you want to try and be semi normal though, I’m on NA Ally PvP
>>585082419
What’s stopping you?
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>>585081462
Okay what faction are you going
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>>585082408
you are a rule tranny
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>>585082459
what a genius, I suppose I wasn't talking to you then
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>>585082475
Sorry I'm playing on PvE with a /vg/ guild...
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>>585082461
you're a mentally ill schizo
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>>585082017
im getting around 1300 hours to get 55 points for the heckin bearino, and thats if you dedicate every second to doing this shit. realistically its around 1500 probably even 1800 hours thats 225 days at 8 hours a day . i have an entire spreadsheet that separates each point based on how long it takes to acquire, skip reps, rank 13/14, and some 60s basically
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>>585082475
>try and be semi normal
>name is Diapergirl Knottypants
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>>585082485
Said it elsewhere. NA ally pvp
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horde pvp guild for trannies
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>>585082310
>im straight
>id fuck men
No
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>>585082174
every streamer is considering rolling warlock for the launch since its always good in pvp
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Is there a list somewhere of all the new profession recipe drops? Wowhead has just been shitting the bed since Forever revealed so they are behind on everything. a bunch of random recipes now drop from specific mobs, even if those recipes used to be on vendors in classic. Like Dragonbreath Chili dropping off the dragonoids in Dustwallow now.
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>>585082426
>assuming you went tailoring/echanting
That's the key there. Unless you're a cloth wearer, who is going to do that?
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>>585082518
Who were you messaging?
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>>585082503
russian faggot
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>>585082346
the old stuff is still there and will still get you to max fast, thats the only thing that matters, ill do the riverglades and new shit on an alt when they update the route and people arent overloading the zone
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>>585082559
Girls wearing diapers and getting knotted is extremely normal though?
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>>585082561
People said horde was Troon. But now i guess I’m rolling horde, gotcha . The proof is in the mentally ill
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/wowfg/ posters are for:
>deep tongue kissing
>molesting while they try to quest
>forcing into womens underwear
>sloppy toppy waiting for the BG queue to pop
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>>585082642
consider it a PSA to any existing or would be mage players, is that so hard to imagine? why are you like this anon?
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>>585082632
I was going to make a spriest first so I would, yes
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>>585082434
Can they delay the launch until after grok has figured the class balance out?
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>>585082697
I like being annoying
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Prot pala or prot war? Both seem pretty cool. I feel like paladin has the better aesthetics and theme etc but warriors are just more practical? Something about vanilla paladin screams “auto attack cuck getting kited in PvP”
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>trannies post dildo pics and talk about diapers
>suddenly horny anons everywhere
I’m surrounded by faggots…oh my god.
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>>585082427
ozempic enjoyer
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all the cool shit is going to happen on the NA PVP realm
if you are not rolling there you are going to miss out on everything amazing
its only 40ms higher for EU so you have no excuse
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>>585082772
I don't think he'd be fat if he was
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>>585082680
Nope, they are for rimming me.
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>>585082323
>EU
Based
>don't care if pve or pvp
Good girl! I'm the boring bi dps, my best friend is the chad ftm tank and you will be the mtf(?) priest heal. We still have an enby dps/heal, but they are completely new to WoW and we want to roll on Alliance PvP.
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>server keeps shitting itself
come on Blizz I still wanted to give druid a quick look before release
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>>585082761
prot paladin is brain dead
also gearing one is a pain since you need spell damage and not strength and 90% of tanking gear has strength
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>>585082659
I will be /whoing you and asking for pics
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>>585082770
Europeans just woke up, that should clear up everything.
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>>585082773
If Olympus is rolling mainly PvE, I'm rolling PvP. If they're rolling PvP, I'm rolling PvE. Simple as, those guys are obnoxious as fuck, they message you to join your guilds when you're already in a guild, something they would know with 5 seconds of shift-clicking your name
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>>585082850
you still have time in the stress test
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>>585082761
prot pally is currently the most raped tank
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>>585082716
>unless you're a cloth wearer, who is going to do that?
>I was going to make a spriest first
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>>585082770
they're russians, being faggots is just their normal state
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>>585082621
Apparently a rare in searing gorge drops a new engineering recipe
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>>585082909
Or you could just give me a way to contact you. I’m not picky. Don’t be fat, unemployed, esl, or unhygienic and you have a chance.
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>>585082770
this general has multiple dedicated ai porn spammers that never get less than 3-5 (you)'s each time they post, and you're just now realizing the thread is full of anons that want to plap each other?
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>>585082953
do we get to use our beta characters in the stress test?
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>>585082554
He was breaking the rules by posting gore
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>even fat brown trannies require 9/10 white guy
take the AI pill
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>>585083009
I’m not just now realizing anything. I’m just shocked at the response. The wow vg threads I grew up on would never tolerate this.
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Any Project Epoch refugees playing WoW Forever?
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>>585082993
cleared three out of four damn
I'm self employed making almost no money
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>>585082773
this is what i think will happen, i played NA all of classic and i had a much better time than on EU
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>>585082993
you will rim my unemployed neet ass and you will enjoy it
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Ladies and gentlemen we have a new least-played class.
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>>585083017
no its going to be a full server wipe
stress test client is the launch client so you can set up all your settings, addons UI etc.
and if you name your character the same as at launch you will have your whole UI ready
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>For a couple weeks the frost tree had more than 51 talent points in it before someone noticed
they really are phoning it in aren't they
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>>585083105
>want to play Hunter and Warrior
Guess I was the sheep all along...
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>>585083105
anon, all levels on all servers is not how you look at a census
at the VERY least make it like level 20-30, but only 30 is going to be the best. you should also want to see only pve or pvp
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>>585083060
post axe wound
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>>585083061
>not obese, unemployed, or unhygienic = 9/10
Yeah maybe you should stick to jerking off to AI if you think that
>>585083086
I can work with that if you’re not disgusting otherwise
>>585083103
I won’t. This will be your last (You) from me. Get your shit together anon.
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>>585083105
even my class choices are bipolar, hunter and priest
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>>585083212
>This will be your last (You) from me
lmao you have no idea, you'll be (You)ing me as long as you're in this general
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>>585083193
just showing how many warlocks have been made recently that they've been dethroned for least played class
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>>585083212
not obese = must have six pack
not unemployed = must make at least six figures
not unhygienic = 9/10 face, hair and over six feet tall
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For me it’s between prot war and arcane mage. Something about arcane missiles is just so fucking satisfying. The problem is choosing race(alliance)
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>>585083206
Are you him?
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>>585082770
its the typical shut-in gamer -> faggot/troon pipeline
instead of manning up, they think that "becoming" a woman is worthwhile endeavor and has some merit
its pathetic but its all around these circles
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>>585083145
That's a good idea thanks
Still sucks because I had my druid at lvl ~13 now and if anything I'm probably only going to use the stress test for the setup stuff you mentioned.
Want to minimize pre-wipe time investments now.
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>>585082993
Those are too many requirements for a hole....
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>>585083318
skelves mana talent is way too good for mage and you will probably hate that you didnt pick it at 60
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>>585083309
No? Anonnnnn are you an incel? Be careful you don’t wanna end up old and alone >.>
>must have 6 pack
No I just don’t want to be embarrassed to be seen standing next you. Just don’t be obese.
>must make at least 6 figures
I already make good money on my own I just want my partner to not be a loser with nothing going on idc what they actually make
>9/10 face, hair, and over 6 feet tall
Again…no? Just don’t smell like shit and brush your teeth…
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>nooo 3% haste from skyborne doesnt impact gcd trust me bro!!!!!

>it does actually
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>>585083087
>hehe sounds like a cute group
Thanks :3
>>585083087
>I am a genderfluid femboy crossdresser at best
Hot, but Girl I'm sorry, I lied... I just wanted to get your attantion, because I thought it was so hot when you posted your toys, I got honry and imagined to fuck you. I lied, I'm a cishet playing with my other cishet fren on release.
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>>585083378
they just think they are in too deep. like gay sex is some initiation ritual and once you do it you have to do all this shit i guess gays are really about that blackmail
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i think i'm the only person on the planet who can actually separate porn from reality, is this a superpower?
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>>585083373
post face that makes you break every mirror within your reach
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>>585083486
those gay jokes we used to make in the early 2000s, they were one of the catalysts to normalize faggotry in online circles
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you're rolling a female windshaper on the NA RP realm at launch. i'll be playing male tauren warrior. you can play whatever class you want as long as they heal and wear a dress. you're taking alchemy and enchanting because i expect you to make my consumes and enchant my gear. we're going to level in whatever zones i feel like. if you have a gag reflex i'm going to get rid of it. see you on november 4th.
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>>585083447
>100% more spirit reg
>probably got 200 spirit max at 60 with optimal gear
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>>585083453
It's not him you should be worried about embarrassing you
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>>585082770
>>585083378
transgenderism is ultimately just depravity from too much internet and porn addiction combined with male loneliness and/or depression
of course those people are highly vulnerable to a cult-like movement coming around and telling them "the reason you are unhappy is gender dysphoria actually" while offering them attention, a free win button for many online arguments as well as an excuse to paint their constant asshole behaviour towards others as righteous and excusable
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>>585083581
doubles drinking mana gain, doubles evocation, doubles innervate
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Best race for warrior on alliance? Planning on tanking primary but will DPS if need be.
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>>585083581
it does way more than that my guy
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>>585077935
There's the human farmers you massacre the crap out of in the pre-Cata Tirisfal zone, which I think were implied to be human survivors that the Scarlet Crusade protected
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>>585083657
night elf
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>>585083657
gnome for pvp
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>>585083515
You want to see my face?
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I WILL go femnelf warrior and I WILL have fun in wpvp despite the odds
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>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence
>streamer is going to rmt and kill you in game with his rmted gear and make a video and you'll look bad online
>no dungeon quest exp
>tiny +20% dungeon mob exp
>no new classes
>bad balance classes
>insane new gear power creep
>shitty old gear
>all leveling through quests
>zero social aspects
>unbalanced pvp
>rogues top 1 dps because yes
>all hybrids suck because hybrids
>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted
>massive reddit post a sunset and get 3000 likes psyop
>ugly new elf race
>new elf race breaks lore
>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper
>everyone still needs to be an engineer
>endgame is still raidlog
>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played
>insane balance changes every single week by the SC2 balance team that make absolutely no sense but disappoint everyone
>dev doesn't play the game and thinks troll has strong racials
>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't realize night elf racials are overpowered
>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't think
>main dev literally said in a podcast he is going to make rogue the best class in the game because he wants to
>biggest streamer is a nazi
>biggest streamer killed his own mother
>you can't disable the fog anymore
yep, they gave up on wow fogever
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>>585083751
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>>585083806
you forgot the number 1 biggest issue: the single server type hyper layering that's the anthesis of the MMO genre and turns the game into gay single player retoilet garbage.
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>>585083806
Snutz literally got banned for RMT btw
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the worst part of the beta being over is we wont get patch notes every week
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>>585083852
That guy is still going to call me a girl isn't he
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Prot war is the best in mitigation and bear is the best off tank.
What is the strong point of a prot paladin?
I thought it was aoe tanking but with the nerfed consecration I don't know...
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>>585081667
lipstick marks are goated[/spoilers]
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>>585083947
>What is the strong point of a prot paladin?
they can respec and heal
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>>585083947
Yeah I think I'm just gonna go warrior and level a paladin alt in case they ever get buffed.
Maybe even a shaman
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>>585083945
nigga, you're gay
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>>585083918
havent updated in like 2 weeks, lost the will to play the game
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>>585083930
i think it'll be alright if shaman only get nerfed once a month
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>>585083947
Bear has the best threat gen in the game so bear will most likely end up the best tank since it will let people pump more.
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>>585084032
you wont even know and will be jump scared by all the undocumented nerfs on release
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>>585084038
With salvation, threat won't matter that much.
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>>585083947
>consecrate was nerfed
>righteous fury threat was buffed
prot pally will be fine
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>>585084108
That's not the point, stay out of the conversation retard.
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>>585084019
Would a gay guy want to impregnate whitemane?
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>>585083806
>rogues top 1 dps because yes

If you actually believe this will be the reality you are an absolute retard and any tourists who play Rogue because of this deserve the misery they're about to sign up for
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It's insane how many trannies are into WoW. Are there even cis gay anons or is the tranny ratio way higher?
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>>585084198
>Faggy hybrid dps warrior mad she won't get top parse for free
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>>585083947
>>585084154
anon please...the time for such takes has passed
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>>585083105
>>585083283
>including level 1s

dumbass, this is 2-30
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>>585081830
>blacksmithing sword strat?
What is that?
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>>585084081
this is the aggravating part. mages got a literal 5% damage nerf across the board today in complete silence (NOT talking about piercing ice being moved to ice barrier)
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>>585084295
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qmngPWCFILY
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>>585084192
a mentally ill faggot talking about cartoons would
that's why they call it tranime
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>>585083079
I am and I'm probably going to be extremely disappointed in how dogshit Forever is compared to Epoch. The revised DM alone is better than anything Blizzard could make now.
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>>585084289
show >=10
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>>585084279
Retarded rogue who missed the point completely and can't identify someone arguing on your behalf so you bite the hand that feeds you like a faggot
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>>585084342
That makes sense.
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>>585084342
>>585084498
not what I used though~
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>>585084286
>either you are lying now because I am not a tranny
No not that. But I have a thing for based /lgbt/'s.
>I couldn't have actually joined
Now I want you even more. Please play on EU PvP Alliance. What languages do you speak, babe?
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uh oh melty
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did they put out some jewy stealth patch?
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>>585084498
yeah the hardest part is getting the disenchant mats from low level greens to make the wand, the tailoring mats if you just do cloth dont have a good rate compared to the weapons
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>>585083806
>complaining about dungeon mobs having their exp nerfed
>several lines later complaining about how speedrunning to 60 is the entire game
would you niggers pick a fucking lane or better yet go play a different game entirely
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warrior = <1"
warlock = 1"
hunter = 2"
mage = 3"
rogue = 4"
holy priest = 5"
resto shaman = 6"
resto druid = 7"
holy paladin = 8"
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>>585084583
yes, who knows the extent of it, but they definitely made changes
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>>585084359
Wanting to fuck cartoons is gay?
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>>585080756
>No but it DOES explain their hostility to the Alliance.
It doesn't explain shit because they're sending recruiters TO THE FUCKING ALLIANCE
Attempts to rationalize it end up explaining less than nothing
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>>585084651
she needs her nipples inverted
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>>585084583
Yeah, I had one yesterday. Seems to have fixed the rogue stealth not swapping action bars Also mousing over signs in SW now shows the name of what you're mousing over
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Someone make a reddit post reminding tourists that rogues are going to be super duper DPS or whatever
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>>585084625
Ia that the size of dildo they prefer?
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>>585084651
when you insert as the cartoon
hell yea, nigga
you're fucking mad fucking gay
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>>585084286
Fuckers tried to get me too. Let’s blow this popsicle stand and make out.
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>>585084853
how would you know what a dildo is unless you use them huh
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>>585085093
I…I wanna be whitemane…
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>>585084373
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>>585085093
nigga, because you're avatarfagging
not only are you mad fucking gay, you're a mentally retarded schizo spammer, nigga
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>>585085343
Could be us but I’m NA </3
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>>585085164
hunter really is the epitome of journey fags, best quester, soloing everything, exploring the world with your pet
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>>585085324
Whitemane is a character from the game world of Warcraft
She is the high Inquisitor of the Scarlet Crusade which is the best faction in the game
Her power of resurrection is so great that its canon she can use it on herself
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WTF they removed piercing ice talent and added random dmg bonus to ice barrier
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>>585085468
they nerfed mage across the board. base damage for every talent ability got snipped by about 5% (including barrier's absorb amount)
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>>585085558
proofs?
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How's the paladin DPS situation looking sisters
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>>585085704
Not good
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>>585085661
ok give me a minute to compile a pic
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>>585085704
grim
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Did anyone else have to switch faction to get the race/class combo that they like? I realized I need to be a night elf and not a cow
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>>585085748
Alliance seems kinda based…I wonder what the 2 dildo troons ITT rn are playing…
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melvor idle 2 is out, it's over for world of streamercraft lmfao
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>>585085771
Joined daybreak company even though they're 'lliance because i was gonna roll RP server anyway, and they raid when i'm able to which is in the early AM.
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>>585085929
Anon that guild is gonna crash and burn why would you do that to yourself?
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>>585085817
The zzz general posts butts all the time and you don't see them having someone cry about it
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>>585085661
here you go anon
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>>585076393
Anyone?
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Blue boards are better because slightly lewd stuff here is infinitely more interesting than blatantly lewd stuff on a pink board
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>>585085951
The alternative is joining retarddit-using normalfags on the faction I want to roll on, so it's a fair compromise.
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>>585076393
Undead warlock
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>>585086123
No one cares about you chink. Play what you want instead of crowdsourcing opinions on what YOU should do with YOUR time on a Mongolian basket weaving forum
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>>585086116
how does that ice barrier work? it gives you a 1 min buff that increases dmg by 3% which is independent of the shield, then the shield itself is also 3%?
i guess they wanted to nerf frostfire without nerfing deep frost, but it sounds kinda annoying that you always need to press ice barrier to get the dmg.

i wonder if they changed other base dmg of spells or if they only did it for mage.
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>>585083926
he was streaming yesterday
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>>585086309
Why did tipsout call him out then? Seems like a fag move
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>>585086309
on a new account
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>>585074762
>one guy in Southshore thinks they enjoy their job of purging the Scourge from Lordaeron a little too much
He just baited adventurers with shiny blue items and he probably had an ulterior motive
The real reason is probably because he got bullied by Herod as a kid in Southshore and had a crush on Whitemane but got cucked by Mograine.
If we ever get CoT Durnholde they should make it canon and put him into old Southshore as a loser incel kid
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90% of avatarfags use the same 3 to 4 pictures of the character or the one image they have to sign that it is them the one posting. I try to find new sally pictures to post or just save what gets posted from sloppa anon
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>>585086296
yeah, I'm not sure if you'll get a separate 1min buff or what. almost assuredly it will be purgable/dispellable though. aggrend wants me to roll a ret paladin so I will do exactly that
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>>585086116
barely any different
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>>585086021
then go haunt that place, you're engaging in such creepy cringe behavior because you're a mentally ill schizo doing some gay-op with constant ritual porn posting
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>>585086357
Because it was extremely likely that Snutz would win it all if he had actually played. Do you really think some washed up League player would beat the multi-duel tourney winning long time PvP god champion? But either he ACTUALLY signed up late and tips didn’t want the legal trouble of someone putting 2+2 together on that for a 100k tourney, or they decided he was simply too sus to allow in because people would screech if he won. Snutz is a non-white super faggot, but he would have won the tourney.
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>>585086384
same account on his foreverpvp character
he just didnt have time to farm two weeks for the tourney
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Warlock chads win yet again
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>>585086528
I've posted non porn of her as well. You're just retarded
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>>585086116
>you now need to keep ice barrier up for dps even when not taking dmg, instead of saving it for when you need it
who the fuck designs this shit
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>>585085929
You got a job with Daybreak? Nice bro. Hopefully you can fix Planetside 2 and LOTRO
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>I can’t join the tourney guys I have personal stuff going on
>next day he does a 9 hour gambling stream
Something happened. We’ll never know the truth.
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>>585086473
it reveals their thoughts and intentions. mage was strong enough to warrant a nerf according to them, but hunter, lock, non-ele shaman, resto druid, ret, 50% mana regen on healers, all fine
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>>585085704
>cant heal good
>cant tank good
>cant dps good
Do you just hope they fix in by november 4th or after release?
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>>585077461
>darkshore
>contested zone
Average Hordecuck IQ
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>>585086625
Uhhh yeah….warlock “chads” just can’t stop “winning”
>they’re only relevant in 1v1 level 30 duels
Oop
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>>585081830
skinning + lw
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>>585086674
You should precast it any time youre potentially going to take damage anyway, it lasts longer than the cool down so you can instantly recast it after absorbing a few hits
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>>585086810
Not talking about the money laundering event
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>>585086594
>But either he ACTUALLY signed up late
He did, but he also bought gold and streamed himself doing it on the booty bay AH. He wasn't banned from the tournament, he was banned from the game which is why he said he "dropped out" to save face over getting banned by blizzard for buying gold.
If he had signed up late and they decided it was bullshit to let him in and revoke it, whatever, he wouldn't have to lie and say he had some urgent family emergency.
Tips would of also just said "well he signed up late and that wasn't fair to everyone else so we decided to stick to the rules and not accept his late application" Tips said he was specifically banned from the game so he couldn't play.
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>>585086879
What are you talking about then? Cause that’s the only thing they do well
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>>585086686
The loan sharks threatened to break his kneecaps.
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Someone mod the incubus into a succubus with even bigger honkers
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>Vanilla players think this is good character design
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>>585086937
Anon I wanna have a hate boner for snutz too but he didn’t get banned you’re not doing anyone any favors by repeating the lie that he did. Tips never said snutz is banned by blizzard anywhere. That is a lie.
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>>585086951
>"Just need that one big win I'll get you your money!"
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>>585086984
Someone mod the incubus into a cute trap with a monster energy can sized hog.
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>>585087004
They designed her after your mom though.
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I am only playing aggrend's pet classes from now on, I'm taking the lessons of SoD to heart
pally on launch with druid alt or druid on launch with pally alt?
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>>585086984
and a bulge
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>retail players think this is good character design
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>>585087004
What is supposed to be bad about it?
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>>585087093
Why would you even post this here?
You’re not going to find one person that disagrees with you. No one gives a singular shit about retail. Thanks for the wasted image slot shitter try contributing something worthwhile next time.
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>>585086758
23/28 holy ret paladin will be kvno...
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>>585087128
low poly
low resolution textures
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>>585086984
And with mouth nipples
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>>585087093
whats the lore reason behind black humans
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>>585087028
is there any proof he wasn't banned from the game? isnt he a streamer? he would of like, streamed himself playing the game hes popular for if he wasnt banned from it. if he did stream but was streaming on a brand new character he was 1 million % banned and you'd have to be trying to convince yourself he wasn't.
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>>585085343
rogues on the right
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>>585087194
I checked the VoD, seems like he wasn't banned
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>>585087175
goblins brought them over from steamwheedle port to work the elwynn vineyards after defias ransacked the countryside
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>>585085440
this pic but she's wearing a thong
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What's the lore reason for gnomes?
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>>585087150
>implying we ever hit image limit before post limit
Thanks for the "contribution" faggot.
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>>585086425
It's a pvp buff though.

Current frost doesn't have enough points to grab the good stuff with 34 points (let alone 32 if you want the fire blast range from fire). Having the 3 points from piercing ice get thrown in for free with ice barrier helps out a lot, even if it doesn't have 100% uptime for the entirety of the damage.

Now that you free up 3 points, you can divide them between imp frost nova, elemental precision (now 2% hit per point), frost warding (now also increases frost ward and ice barrier damage absorption by 20%), improved fire blast, etc.
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>>585087194
He was literally live on the exact same account as his foreverpvp character. This is so easily verifiable and yet you just shit up the thread with nonsense. Kill yourself.
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>>585087245
seems weird they would be allowed to roam free though
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>>585078652
Close but it's really;

Alliance PvE
>Indians and assorted mutts larping as chuds in Olympus
Alliance PvP
>tryhards and poopsocks playing for the OP racials
Horde PvE
>Literal dad boomers who keyboard turn and don't use hotkeys
Horde PvP
reddit chungus millennial libs, drag queens, trannies and streamers so buckbroken over Asmon and his "chud" army, that they went Horde to own the chuds despite Asmon going PvE
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>>585087004
I found her strangely creepy back in the day
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>>585087369
accurate
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>>585087335
I see the writing on the wall, I'm not investing into mage
mages will hit hard at 60 with spell power, people will whine, they will get gutted because they are not a chosen class
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It's insane that people are malding over racials or blue elves and not enough people give a shit about giga servers with sharding. The thing that makes retail so antisocial isn't the automatic groupfinding, or being teleported to the dungeon, it's the fact that every person you play with is pulled from a sea of anonymity, and disappears back into it when you're done. And THAT'S what they're bringing to classic?
>no realm firsts
>no notorious guilds
>no notorious players
>not finding the same dude farming in the same spot as you every day
>no ganking the dude that teabagged you in STV 10 levels ago
A cohesive community is the single most important thing that separates retail and classic
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>>585087245
Why did i laugh at this
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>>585073353
>Does forever have the vanilla
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ
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>>585087369
Everyone says there’s so many jeets playing this game…in almost 20 years of playing I haven’t heard a single Indian accent in vent/discord. Are we sure we aren’t projecting?
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>tfw want to play something other than warrior but fear I will just spend my time wishing I was playing warrior instead
Orc warrior with mining and blacksmithing over and over and over again in every iteration of the game

How do I cure my autism
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>>585078986
Close but Asmon with Mcconnell is god tier, and move pilav to high tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMLmG_JJlQ0
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>>585087445
>they are not a chosen class
Zirene is on the mage 'cord and takes suggestions from there btw.
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>>585087369
>horde pvp drag queen getting corpse camped after starting a fight they couldnt finish with olympus
actually real and true
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>>585087523
By leveling only through what you craft. Craftlock if you will.
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>>585086758
Classes were constantly adjusted during vanilla's lifecycle, why do people think shit is just going to be set in tone on Nov 4 and they won't be retuning shit all the time?
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I always thought the primary motivation behind doing raids was making your character more powerful for pvp.
Like what do pve only players do; you just want to see numbers go up and clear the same raid you just did slightly faster?
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>>585074608
holy sex
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>>585073353
It's instant, but if anybody shares your first name they can intercept the mail if they get to a mailbox first.
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>>585087175
There isn't one, some humans are just black in the setting. It's like they actively went out of their way to not make the kingdom of black people anywhere in the world that they primarily came from
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>>585077048
MOAR
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>>585087453
Not reading that. Post it on Reddit.
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>>585087262
>In World of Warcraft, gnomes descend from metallic mechagnomes, which were titanic constructs originally created by the watcher Mimiron to help maintain and build Ulduar.
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>>585087453
There is a "familiar faces" system built in where characters you've been in a shard with before, you're more likely to see again
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>>585087585
that IS the primary motivation, it's a faction based world at war
pve-exclusive players are the stardew valley types that just want to play coop/singleplayer games
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>>585087453
>The thing that makes retail so antisocial isn't the automatic groupfinding, or being teleported to the dungeon,
It is, plus flying everywhere at mach speed while teleporting and never having to see another player or have the downtime to have interactions.
>no realm firsts
There will be first kills, it will still be everyone versus everyone.
>no notorious guilds
Olympus
>no notorious players
Asmongold and all the other streamers
>not finding the same dude farming in the same spot as you every day
>no ganking the dude that teabagged you in STV 10 levels ago
Literally not true. Even in the beta when I did a single WC I saw the players I did the dungeon around occasional like at ratchet or org or tb or see them talking in world chat. You see the big icon next to their name if you recently played or interacted with them, its easy to tell that they have some sort of system to put people together that have interacted before. They said it during blizzcon too.
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>>585087585
pve is pvp, I beat you in damage on logs, my guild beats you in speed clear

I get rank 1 all stars globally you dont
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>>585087747
>go to farm but the guy that was there last time is still there
>cant get a new layer to farm because we shared a layer before
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>>585087665
>It's like they actively went out of their way to not make the kingdom of black people anywhere in the world
But that's Orgrimmar
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>>585087823
how many DEI points was this worth?
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>>585087750
how does one attain this level of dent
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>>585087453
We already complained about that thing but in today's society we can't be bothered to stay outraged by the same topic for a long time so we switch to a different thing every week.
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>>585087791
>>585087585
Don't forget in pvp you are competeing vs shitters in open world in shit gear, no ranking no nothing, in pve you are competing vs every single player in world, millions of logged characters vs a random shitter leveling
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>>585087854
she could be fat and mentally retarded for the maximum points
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>>585087823
Why does the DEI nigger have elf ears?
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>>585087453
The hyper aggressive layering is retarded
Anons/shills insist it's necessary to prevent extreme competition for quest mobs/objects as if that doesn't happen with the dogshit layering system anyway
>fighting someone in the world
>they phase in and out of existence 3 times during the fight
yes god this is great, a fine price to pay because someone somewhere had trouble mining a copper node one time
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>>585078986
where satansheterofather?
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I want to put a child in the thread troons
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>>585087585
Most people do raids to get some gear, thats it. Autistic people do it to pump and post logs and other autistic people want it for pvp since they're autistic but not autistic enough for r14. R14 will be easy to get in forever and we have seasonal pvp gear so they won't be forced to do raids for gear anymore.
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>>585087335
>elemental precision (now 2% hit per point),
you get 10% hit now?
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>>585087823
It's just a combination of bad decisions. Like if it was a bald black dude with a goatee and no blind eye, real Benjamin Sisko type, I could've digged that. But why does she just look like an unironic zoomer in a game in medieval times? As much as I hated the Killmonger hairstyle, at least Black Panther has the excuse of taking place in present day on earth.
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i might actually join olympus, being a part of something bigger than oneself is cool
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>>585087791
>dood I got a hecking parse on my speedrun clear and I beat you and-
k I beat you to death
whatever dude
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>>585087994
you can certainly try~
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>>585088001
It's back to being a 3 point talent, so 6%.
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>>585079697
Literal manchild with the thinnest hide of any streamer ever, you can troll him and make him seethe so easily to the point one Olympus guy in a dungeon group made him reroll Horde because he lives in a bubble and seethes at any opinions he doesn't like (such as right wing politics).

He's most likely on the spectrum and gives off that "I'm toxic and can dish it out but can't take it" vibe, during classic 2019 he had a massive amount of copycat fanboys playing female tauren druids and spamming macros saying "GB2 RETAIL" at Soda's request, but Soda himselff go bullied off PvP servers and the second HC dropped he fucked right off and made his furrshit onlyfangs guild for e-celebs (yes he is a massive furry)
If you watch video of him back in the day he was an ultra toxic teenager who was moderately good at PvP, but he never grew up and has the maturity of a teenager in his 30s to the point where he genuinely thinks he's the main character of WoW related content. And he absolutely seethes than Asmon gets more views and traction in WoW than him and tries everything to usurp the number one streamer position.
He is genuinely just not likable anymore, his passive aggressive attitude like he's always got a stick up his ass and pissed off about some minor inconvenience is boring to watch, and he's way too much of a narcissist
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>>585076393
I can understand havin problems self inserting into a character if he doesn't look like you but why would it matter if he's a warrior or hunter? You are not a hunter IRL you are or were a soldier that's still a difference.
Imo warriors would be suited because they are basically a soldier just from medieval times
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>>585088105
all true but he's still less obnoxious than most big wow streamers
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>>585088105
Wow, he's literally me
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>>585080016
We use TipsoutXP here in /wowfg/
Please give him his well earned $30
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>>585087913
Because the nu-Arathi are crossbred with elves.
This one donutsteel OC is the only one with completely unique gear and everything - a figment of one fat ugly libtard foid who was so proud of it back then.

Pointy ears is an customization option for both the normal and the big fat kultiran humans on retail since then.
Btw kultirans still can't nor are planned to be paladins.
Retail WoW.
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>>585087823
desu shed be kinda cute with a better haircut
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>>585080954
Boomerlennials are literal goylems and are the ones who play classic like it's their role in life, they can't function without restedxp
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>>585088327
What the actual fuck
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>>585088105
>to the point one Olympus guy in a dungeon group made him reroll Horde because he lives in a bubble and seethes at any opinions he doesn't like (such as right wing politics).
That's based though? Why would I want to hear about politishit while I'm trying to do Stockades or some shit.
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As a wow noob, will I have good time playing warrior tank during leveling and further? Should I join pve or pvp? I am not really a pvp person but occasional stuff is kinda fun if not camping.
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>>585079697
HE STOLE MY WIFE VEI FROM ME!!! UNFUCKINGFORGIVABLE!!! I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM!!!
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You guys a playing with rested XP?
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>>585087854
>>585087913
Reminder that by Blizz's own metrics, Torbjörn scores higher on the DEI scale than Lcuio because he's short, fat and disabled even though he's a nordic male
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>>585088406
>>585088406
>>585088406
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>>585088389
Prot warrior is good even for leveling now so you can always go sword and shield if you like. Its really bad at PVP though
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>>585080342
>RXP is shit though
This. Azeroth Pilot Reloaded is better.
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>>585088389
Yea, it’s easy. In raids it’s harder to find a spot. But with dual spec it should not be a problem
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>>585082173
But tipsoutxp instead
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>>585086670
avatar/signature use
spamming/flooding
mentally ill schizo janny
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>>585082678
There is no way he would admit which faction he's going, he wants to play WITH the people in this general to groom them and that freak knows anons will dodge him if he drops his chosen faction
Very high chance he said Alliance because he's going Horde and wants you to be on Horde with him
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>>585087453
Layers are cancer. Just give us fucking servers and merge some if the balance gets too messed up.
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>>585078913
Personally I'm of the opinion that it was a death by a thousand cuts. There wasn't an explicit mistake that ruined the game, bu there were enough failure points occurring for people to get tired and quit. SoD was just the team seeing how far they could push the bounds of classic+, and there were a lot of really awkward changes and moments that I can remember getting burned by. I think its a bit of a personal question because different people were bothered by different things

The raid tiers went from 10 players -> 20 players -> 40 players, which caused failure points where guilds would collapse if they couldn't find more members or merge with another group. My guild was already struggling to get people together for a full raid during phase 2, and we all knew phase 3 was probably gonna kill the guild.

On a personal level, I was getting really tired of all the gold sinks. I recall having to dump a ton of gold into a new quest during phase 2 for a BiS armor piece, which felt really awful. I never cared for professions/the auction house/gold farming so I was always broke. I was already paying for consumes and that quest basically bled me dry

PvP was also the source of several BiS items during the first two phases. On its own thats fine, but PvP's balancing suffered from all of SoD's new items and abilities. It all felt a bit like an afterthought. I personally can't stand PvP so it was a real slog to farm everything. I understand thats just part of classic though

I quit at the start of phase 3 after I missed out on this massive leveling (and I think gold?) oversight. Blizz didn't tune a new world event properly so anyone who played it could rocket through levels 40-50. The event then got nerfed, and anyone who missed out was shit out of luck. 40-50 is a lot of time spent leveling and it sucked to see that a subsection of the community got a fast pass out of it
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>>585088105
How much have you donated to him and how many months have you been subbed?
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>>585087453
Not an issue for me, I'm an OCE Chad so I'll be on one layer all the other OCE chads :)
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>>585089373
I've lost count on both accounts.
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>>585089408
you're not going on the OCE server?
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>>585088579
Finding a raid spot as a tank is not hard lol. Just tell any recruiter that you like to tank and almost every warrior will gladly give you their tanking spot.
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I need someone to post the catbox link to the 140fps troll song STAT
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>>585078986
yeah this is pretty fucking true



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