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HOTFIX:

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-13-3-patch-notes/126774

>>585093615
Known Issues
Scab and Dreg Vanguard enemies currently have slightly more health than intended.

I FUCKING KNEW IT

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Just finished playing Boltgun 2 as the SoB.
If Darktide SoB class doesn't let me zip around at 500km/h juggling Heavy Bolter, Heavy Melta AND a Heavy Flamer whilist throwing in hits with a Power Sword I'm going to be dissapointed.
Also dual-wielding Bolt Pistols because somehow the upgrade to the most basic weapon turned out to be the most fun.
>sister-novitiate
LALALALALLALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4eMtU3UfmE

>Baldur gay

>>585094236
you vill fuck ze bear

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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>585094224
you vill slide around on your carapace armored ass at 1/8th the speed with your single hand flamer and you vill be happy

My game was outdated. That's why nobody was able to join the lobby

>>585095219
You vill update your game to fix ze paid cosmetics

>>585094224
I really hope they make that guy the fifth chaos god, he's my favorite now

I have now completed all the Skitty penances

>>585096246
Bravo.

>>585093443
>But I instantly accept them. Nobody is faster than me
I'm sure the server's response time would disagree.
Also chances are the user applied to different lobbies and it just so happened, by pure chance, that you were the last one they applied to, so in the time it took for the request to hit your screen, you to hit accept, and that hitting their screen, that player may already have accepted a different lobby.

>>585093615
>Spillway End Event:
>The Prophet of Decay now has a constant damage zone around him during the circle phase.
Does this mean what I think it does? Are they literally forcing you to shoot him now? lol
>(Havoc) Weakened Monstrosities can no longer spawn for the duration of the event.
kek, good to know that this was a bug, because being swarmed by 3 plogryns during the pillar phase is pretty cancer.

>>585096290
Thanks!

>>585095564
He's the 40k's Horned Rat expy so he'll become a 5th Chaos God when they finally fully Age of Sigmar 40k.
You'd think they'd know better and it's too retarded of a move but there are signs.

>>585096785
Vashtorr has a cooler design though, he was basically isekai'd from Doom

>>585096850
Personally I feel like the perpetual :O face is a bit silly.

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>>585096962
It looks like he's wearing a flesh mask stretched over his actual face, so his head might be wholly mechanical under there

>>585097102
Isn't that model/incarnation of Vashtorr supposed to represent some ancient DAoT android body he's using as a physical vessel or something like that anyway?

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True Grit?
More like True Shit!

>>585097287
No.

>>585097287
The Iron Warriors found one laying around and summoned him into it to smuggle him into realspace, which among other things, the android itself implies he had a whole ass cult worshipping him during the DAoT.

>>585093803
Getting real tired of these vangers.
They're worse than ragers, potentially worse than maulers.

>>585094224
How's her voice? I can't imagine Alanah sounding good, or convincing with a non-bogan accent.

>>585097102
>primarisissies
>using guns without Cawl's patented Primaris fidget spinner greeble
Either nature is healing or we're reaching levels of tech heresy previously thought impossible.

>>585097717
My man do you not see the skulls? Those are traitor astartes.

>>585094224
Does Boltgun 2 still have D-Rok kino?

>>585097685
It's "okay", definitely not anything to write home about. A bit light on ham and runs out of whatever ham she has on longer sentences (which, to be fair, Caedo also does) but I can't say I noticed her having a weird accent or something. I do wish she had more reverence for Emperor/disgust for His enemies in her voice because it's just standard vaguely angry monotone "die heretic". ESL though, and I'm probably biased because I didn't know and didn't care who she was, so I'm barely aware that she's apparently controversial for one reason or another.
I do like that there's a lot of variety in those voice lines depending on what you're aiming at like specific enemy types, allies, pickups, areas (praying at statues of Big E), etc. though I was a bit dissapointed the mission where you get to ride on a Leman Russ doesn't let you tell them to drive you closer (so you can hit them with your sword).
>>585097867
Not that I know. They're not in the credits either.

Why does everyone use stagger dmg bonus on their shotguns? Do you really shoot at staggered enemies so often?

>>585097867
>>585099094
https://youtu.be/D2PGPbrXrZQ?t=24

>HD2 prohibits mods, so all the fixes people had made for the legacy issues the devs didnt care to fix are back in play
>SM2 hotfixes the 'exploit' that made doing curcible tolerable but they don't fix the bugs and they don't fix the hidden penalties given to players
Man what the fuck is it with coop game devs, it's like they are all obsessed with making the experience as much of a cbt session as possible for their players

>>585100849
Best thing about Boltgun is keeping D-Rok alive.

>>585100824
Follow up shots

Why do I do better at melee in Veteran than Zealot?

>>585103632
Because zealots are stinky doodoo caca poo poo pee pee

I'm havoc 24 and people playing havoc 21 don't want me there...

Calgar?
More like CACALGAR

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Kneel, loyalists!

>>585108319
>team full of women
Deserved

Spillway is impossible in Havoc

>>585108659
I've done it in havoc 40

>>585108409
The only woman in that team is the zealot.

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>>585108659

Got Darktide. Which class should I start out with? (No I'm not going to pay more money for the dlc classes)

>>585113031
ogryn

>>585113031
Skitarii

>>585113031
you play sniper vet with helbore, doing that learns you enough on how to avoid damage that anything else you do will be significantly easier by a large margin

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R8F5ntJ6vPc
Halloween event again!

>>585113031
The correct class to learn the game as is zealot, because it teaches you all of the important basics of the melee. Learning the melee is not optional, darktide is a melee game with guns. Zealot gets recommended because it has some good training wheels that help you not get frustrated when you inevitably make mistakes.
Ignore the screeching about zealot being nerfed and whatnot. None of that matters before damnation difficulty at the barest minimum, and you likely won't play aurics with any regularity until you get used to the game. If you're upset with zealot by then, you can always just make a new character of a different class.

Ogryn is the kind of thing you play if you really enjoy the big retard, but be aware that the human classes will feel very different and it may teach you bad habits about how easily ogryn staggers, his dodge mechanics bowling over nearby trash, or having stupid amounts of HP.
Avoid arbitrator as a new player, the class is so overpowered in the lower difficulties, it basically plays itself.
Avoid scum, it won't be fun until your basics let you actually survive.
If you insist on doing psyker, max out Assail before you do anything else, it'll carry the awful early game.

>>585113031
The class that fancies you the most. If you actually like gameplay loop enough for your first char. It's easier to keep playing for another character.
Unironically only 10% of players owning Darktide have 4 classes at max level. Only 35% get their first character to max level.

Why does Darktide run so bad? Is it vibecoded?

>>585115395
Worse. Sw*des coded it.

>>585113031
Zealot.
Forces you to actually learn the game.
Can cheat death from level 6 and onwards.
Fun to play.

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Name a better duo, I'll wait.

>>585087901
What’s it like?

>>585108319
When will I be able to do overheads like these on the ogryn?

>>585095564
>>585096850
>>585097102
I think they almost definitely will have him ascend. He’s already a pretty big threat as a demi god/prince with how much he’s able to do with his tech sorcery. At the very least he’s not going away anytime soon since he draws power from tech and some of the conventional methods of dealing with him have been rendered null.

>>585117978
You've been able to do them, anon. You just gotta believe!

>>585117978
You have a choice between unstoppable force Cruncher or brutal momentum Folding Shovel.

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>>585117760
https://youtu.be/9ZEURntrQOg?t=57

>Fixed an issue where Corruption damage would fail to kill players that had a fully corrupted Health bar.
Does that mean that Beast of Nurgle trails will kill you when you only have 1 non-corrupted HP?
Pox Gas?
Things like pox walker attacks and bursters definitely kill you already, but they do both corruption and regular damage.

>>585093506
can the next thread pic make the nun have bigger tits and less clothing?

has the player base actually gotten worse? Like the last two weeks I feel I've encountered a lot more retards than usual. I play auric maelstorm basically, and the amount of people who either run ahead or lag behind has noticeably increased. Im not a Havoc 40 guy, but was playing some havoc 25+ last night and same thing, a ton of people just running ahead and not staying as a group. Kinda bizarre to me at that level people are still retarded.

>>585123156
Steam sale

Was the huntsman shotgun some kind of limited drop or some bullshit. I haven't seen a single one in my Veteran's shop in two weeks.

>>585123526
They always fuck up new weapons appearing in the shop, just roll Brunt's lottery for a mobility/stability dump and upgrade it.

>>585123156
All of those difficulties have always been filled with complete retards. The h25 to around 30 bracket in particular is literally the biggest collection of braindead shit-eaters you will find in the playerbase. They get hard filtered by EFL and more than one monster showing up on the screen at the same time and piss their sissy little pants. If you are good you play h40s. End of story.

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>>585125575
Anon... we post twitter screenshots on 4chan, not reddit ones.

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they need a difficulty above auric but avoids the havoc drawback of having to wait forever to get a game going

>>585123156
>but was playing some havoc 25+
Havoc 25 to 31 past a week after reset is unironically some of the HARDEST content in the game without a group. It's been that way for a long while, because that's the bracket of players trying to jump up from auric who havent yet (or refuse to) learn that havoc requires you to stay closely knit in coherency and will scatter off like cats, because these subsets of players learned to avoid interacting with the AI with mobility instead of how to fight mixed threats.

>>585128161
Havoc without needing the retarded party finder?

>>585118267
Elaborate? What has he been up to? He seems cool but he’s so new I don’t think I’ve seen anyone talk about him yet

>>585125575
I bet he feels like such a powerful ally right now after posting that

>>585128383
yes

>>585128343
oh great so im stuck in hell, wonderful. I even yell at these retards at the start of the game to stick together but to no avail.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3247750/Mycopunk/
any chance of this being good?

>>585093223
Ah, on staff it's goated. It's like 20% more damage vs flak and like 70% more damage vs crushers. Flak is the most common armor type. Maulers and crushers are the biggest damage sponges, dealing with them faster means eliminating a whole pack faster. Plus, if you have a rumbler ogryn, it will boost his damage too (personally I don't take brittleness on rumbler)
There is a psyop going on that crit chance is important for inferno staff. It is the last thing you should worry about. Brittleness wins games, getting to max stacks 0.2 seconds earlier does not. You need enough critchance to trigger mettle and empathic evasion, with inferno firerate it's not a problem with just souldrinker.
Scoreboard warriors stand by 40 minutes long games and seethe when someone makes use of brittleness psyker applies and closes the gap in damage numbers. They will absolutely insist everyone should be their bitch and apply brittleness for them. Thankfully this retarded group composition slowly dies and we observe more ogryns taking skullcrusher instead of thunderous and teams become more balanced.
Zealots could never be counted on, even when they bring flamer they either don't use it, or spam it and run out of ammo immediately.
Current meta is ogryn wiping packs of elites and psyker wiping trash mobs. Applying brittleness buffs ogryn, and also makes you less useless when there are no trash mobs to deal with.

>>585093803
Just get rid of these fuckers

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>>585108319

>>585132213
Seriously. Who decided adding these guys was a good idea?

just beat a havoc 28 with my smyker, smyker is the best, sorry this causes you to seethe

>>585093615
>The Prophet of Decay now has a constant damage zone around him during the circle phase. The damage zone matches the VFX previously in place.
Wait you mean I could just whack him in melee all this time and the green circle was fake? Lmao.

>>585132760
Are retarded shitters still actually smigging in 2026 when everyone knows it sucks?

>>585132760
Congrats on being carried through a babby-level difficulty. It will happen again.

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Has darktide modding gone too far?

>>585132574
Sven.

>>585132574
This is what happens when the only people who ever get to playtest for fatshark are gigasweats who run the most minmaxed builds. The swedes look for ways to slow them down

Putting the "all simmgers are useless retards" stigma is smite really that bad? I've played around with it in psykanum and it seems like it can do decent damage if you build around it. Although I didn't dare to bring it in actual mission to avoid making people unreasonably mad.

>>585133418
Replace every sound file with Bazinga.wav

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>>585133772
In my next Skyrim playthrough I'll fus-ro-dah him off the Throat of the World

>>585134120
Fuck that cuck.

>>585133895
Please remove yourself.

>>585134102
Or the Tim Allen grunt

>>585134321
I simply want to know whether the ability is hated exclusively because of the players it attracts or because it's actually objectively bad.

>>585134120
Praise that BVLL.

>>585133895
Smite is good, extremely so if applied well.
The best time to use smite is to stall out a critical mass of elites/specials, or assisting in an objective/rescuing a teammate.
The problem is if used poorly it can be a detriment as it prevents hordes from gathering up, or breaks the tempo of combat making enemies unpredictable on the whims of the Smiter. And of course the dumbasses who never learned to play the game while over relying on Smite

>>585132574
Me, because I need more heretics to shoot.

>>585132574
>>585132213
How are they not good enemies? They force you to treat them differently
This game isn't some sort of flowstate simulator where you just mash lmb it's meant to have gameplay

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>>585133418
It hasn't gone far enough until we also get Noo-Noo beast of nurgle.

>>585137616
>Slurping sounds maxed out if you get vored.

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/3734220/Guns_of_Eschaton/

>>585130540
>>585137882
Darktide general

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>>585138080

>>585136997
They are annoyingly tanky for non-elite enemies. Sometimes I find it's better it just let them be than waste time killing them. Which is never a good sign for enemy design.

>>585138248
that just means they need to be made more aggressive instead of removing them. Seriously anyone who wants to remove enemies in Darktide, a game that is severely kneecapped by lack of enemy variety, is a straight up retard

>>585138080
*Warhammer general

*fart* NIGGERS! :D

>>585136997
They were extremely poory implemented and further cemented the meta that fatshark said they wanted to lessen

>>585139416
jarvis, find me a post about vermintide in the last year that isn't "rat news?"

breaking the shields isn't as satisfying as it was in vermintide idk it's missing that crunch sound or something

I just hate how deceptively tanky the vanguard enemies are. They have basically the same model as trash mobs but feel like they have more health than crushers at times.
>make them elites so you can ping them
>give them unique models
>make them take more damage when you break their shield
wow they're fixed without having to change their health

STOP SHOWING OFF, YOU'LL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS OKRI >:(

>>585140383
>Leaves game

>>585139905
>attacking and pushing mob
>still get hit because a vanguard was hiding in the group
Silly me. I have just been doing this for thousands of hours and thought i could predict how the mob would work

>>585138792
>that just means they need to be made more aggressive
Right. Just give ragers bulwarks' shields and call it day. Great idea. Fatshart hire that man.

>>585139713
Fantasy, 40k, AoS, is all fair game for discussion I mean

>>585140650
You sound incredibly retarded

Why do so many people take indomitable? What is the use case? Can it topple stimmed enemies or final toll buffed red enemies?
I've seen it topple chaos spawns, last time I tried it in psikhanium I don't think it worked though? Maybe if you stack enough stagger.

>>585140974
High crowd control, dps boost, short cooldown

>>585140732
jarvis, find me an age of sigmar videogame that isn't mobileslop

>>585140776
Give retarded suggestions, get retarded replies

Why isn't there a LEGO: Warhammer 40K game yet?

>>585141618
The rat one that plays like mark of the ninja?

>>585140974
It always was you fucking secondary piece of shit motherfucker retard nigger faggot homosexual karking fragger son of a Grox bloody bitch benchod bastard hardstuck malicelet YWNBATS ratjeet light attack-spamming ripper-using takes ammo-hungry weapons into C-I-VIs toonking smigging declined brown esl poopdickschizo cope seethe dilate you lost vagueposter 99% lowercase posting reddit

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>>585137882
>The world’s first soulslike FPS

>>585142213
40k is an inherently megablocks game.

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>>585142267

>>585140650
Yeah bro "this enemy should be made aggressive so you can't just walk away from it" means "turn it into a rager" you're so right
Why do you even play this game if you hate the prospect of having to learn a new challenge? It's so crazy that people act like this. Do you just want to kill the same poxwalkers that don't fight back 24/7? Genuinely pathetic

>>585142267
Trying Too Hard

>>585142267
how did you know

>>585136997
Huge amount of health for what they are and a stupid amount of armor that can tank bolt shells

I noticed that mk3 bully club has broken animation on h1-l2 loop and can't unsee it now

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>>585142906
>Yeah bro "this enemy should be made aggressive so you can't just walk away from it" means "turn it into a rager"
Not him, but that is what means effectively, yes.
Vanguards already have a retarded amount of health and then the devs thought it'd be funny to make them retardedly tanky too and made them take less damage from headshots, + their shields also have their own health pool that is also damage gated, meaning vanguards basically have almost have rager levels of health.
Making them more aggressive, ie. move faster, attack faster, etc. Would just be turning them into fucking ragers with carapace shields, which would be fucking stupid.

>>585093803
My biggest problem with these fuckers is that even if you push them twice to open them up, your hits still often end up hitting their shield arm
Even strikes like the power sword thrust push attack just hit the shield

>>585144797
No it isnt you dumb nigger, bruisers are already the correct level of aggressive ot the point you can't ignore them
Put that rough level of chase on a vanguard and suddenly it's not an enemy you "just ignore" anymore and it actually mixes up gameplay

loser pseud

>>585142267
Kys ratjeet

>Time to try thugshot
>I will but greys until I find a 60 mobility one and sacrifice the rest
>Get it first try
Guess it's time to level thugshot mastery all the way from 0

>>585142267
>>585145262
samefag

>>585145210
>Put that rough level of chase on a vanguard
And you get an enemy that is a direct upgrade of the strongest non-elite enemy. Which is a territory where they might as well be upgraded into elites.

>>585141402
Also great for repositioning.

>>585142213
Too graphic for ‘all ages’

>>585146428
True

what's the recent drama with Helldivers about? QRD on it please?

>>585142267
I'm having some sort of deja-vu right now.

>>585147360
I bet the helldivers general knows more about this issue

I'm too fucking stupid to be good at anything

>>585147673
It's scary there.

>>585147690
Then become a flamer psyker. That's what I did and I can now clear aurics and havocs consistently. The day flamer gets a nerf I will quit Darktide.

>>585147360
drama? the only bad thing is they swapped anti-cheats and presumably broke a bunch of mods, and disabled some others permanently

>>585093803
Just how non-existent is their testing team? Vanguards were way too tough at release, pretty seriously nerfed, then I think they tried nerfing them again and they're still too tough it seems.

>>585147690
Fuck off

>>585147360
People dooming over not having their QoL constitution heavy pen mod.

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Deep Rock Galactic = low cortisol
Darktide = high cortisol

>>585148417
what about rogue core

>>585148509
high estrogen

where is hardstuck-poster anon? is he okay?

>>585148417
Why are both them bitches all angry?

>>585148093
no u

>>585145210
>bruisers are already the correct level of aggressive ot the point you can't ignore them
You can. They are horde trash that die instantly. Also Vanguards are equally aggressive as regular bruisers anyway, so making them more aggressive would be just turning them into ragers.
Vanguards are shit and making them more aggressive doesn't actually address their dogshit design, ie. them being retardedly tanky horde mobs for no real reason. Making them more aggressive just makes them stupider.

>>585147690
We don't care.

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>>585148746
No idea

>>585149028
>I want a challenge I don't care if the new enemy is hard
You mistake shitty, annoying design as "hard", because you are a retard.

>>585149092
thanks for replying

>>585148509
Nobody knows

I have never found vanguards that bad. I'm just happy to have new things to fight.

>>585149261
threat level 5 feels harder than hazard 5+

UP IN DA CLUB!

>>585149219
>anything that stops me from turning my brain off and mindlessly spamming lmb into hordes is "annoying"
just go play uprising man

>>585149028
>me want hard
Then play solo with with grey weapons and empty talent tree

>>585149625
>>585147690
Kys faggot

>>585149862
after you

>>585149738
>uhh why don't you stop using game mechanics
Because that's boring you spastic, go play uprising if you don't like hard

>>585150063
You first, i insist

>>585147690
Come on man stop doing this you know it’s not true
>>585148578
Kek

>>585150351
I'm a visual learner. You'll have to show me how its done.

>>585150146
>I don't want to increase difficulty for myself because ughhh
Heh, shitter exposed

>>585150579
Allow me to demonstrate
*suicides you*

>>585150704
>less gameplay variety is just a "difficulty increase"
dishonest faggot

>>585150146
>>uhh why don't you stop using game mechanics
>Because that's boring you spastic

Which is exact the problem with the vanguards???
Darktide has been fucking plagued with this armor BS forever and for some reason people like you defend everything being carapace and tanky where only spammy DPS combat-ability slop becomes the target goal when redesigning talents trees and new classes to deal with this stupid shit that just slows the game to a crawl.

And no, everyone putting +25% against (Armor Type here) does not make it an engaging """""muhcanic""""". It's no different then Beacon of Purity's only purpose to counter corruption modifiers on regular and havoc mission.

>>585151006
Vanguards don't remove gameplay variety, they add it by forcing you to switch up your approach
>but it's boring
No you're just whining because it's too hard for you, kill yourself for this absolute dishonest train of thought you're presenting

>>585148417
>>585149153
We should be able to look like that

>>585151154
>they add it by forcing you to switch up your approach.

What do they possible add that is meaningfully different and fun compared to others games or a better direction for Darktide's future?

If thugshot got 4x damage, would it be a good weapon?

>>585150893
There is nothing dishonest about it. People who really want challenge find it. Like for example doing SL1 runs in Dark Souls falls into the same "not using game mechanics" and "less gameplay variety" category and yet it's a pretty common challenge and a lot of people find it enjoyable.

>>585150438
It is true. I've never been good at anything. Even stuff I've spent thousands of hours on. I'll always be useless shit

>change your playstyle to fight vanguards
I just kept using the best weapons because vanguards made weaker weapons straight up boring to use

>>585151664
Sounds like i've played with you before

>>585151495
Variety you dumb fucking nigger. Facing vanguards is meaningfully different from facing all other enemies in the game, and it's a nice change of pace and forces me to think on my feet more.
I am so tired of retarded bad players wanting every single enemy turned into a poxwalker because that's all their little peanut brains can deal with before being overloaded

>>585151851
it is possible. All I do is game. If only I was good at one of them

>>585151154
>forcing you to switch up your approach
You keep saying that as if it means something. But you don't really fight them differently. They just take more hits that normal enemies, that's basically it.

>>585152206
>But you don't really fight them differently.
Ah, so why do they need to be removed then? If they're the same as any other enemy why single them out?

>>585153127
>why single them out?
I've just told you why, have I not:
>They just take more hits that normal enemies
Now you tell me how do they make you "switch up your approach".

>>585153276
You're too smart for that retard

>>585152040
WHAT IS THIS VARIETY??? YOU JUST KEEP SAYING YOU IT EXIST--WHAT IS IT???????

>>585153276
If all enemies in the game took 1 hit to kill the game would be less boring. It's just annoying if an enemy can take more hits

>>585137882
The need to shoot bits in an exact order to do any real damage is lame, the duel mechanic is fun but jarring, ricochet shots is a neat idea but hindered by the dumb damage system. It's a cool setting though, always did like Hunt's bayou/weird west lore

>>585152206
>>585153276
>dude, vanguards are just tanky and nothing else! Their shields can take so much punishment!
>what do you mean, push, circle, stagger them to hit them when open? Of course I wouldn't do that. I'd rather spam LMB then whine they take too long to kill
classic

>>585151664
We know ratjeet

>>585151179
Dude you don't look like that????

Darktide filtered me. Not because it was too hard but because it sucks. I'm not gonna grind H-40. I'm gonna go play Factorio co-op instead

>>585156782
idk what that means but ok

>>585093506
they need to be bigger

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>>585133096
>>585133270
are you guys new to the game? Smite staggers all the enemies, meaning your teammates have an easy time to kill them. Honestly the best class. Maybe try playing the game above Malice?

>>585133895
only bad players dont like it. Like people who think that the smite guy is there to kill enemies and not stagger them dont like it.

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>>585138248
>getting filtered but a goon level goon

>>585145720
have you tried not being in-game-currency poor? it only takes like 20-25 blues to level up to 20

>>585147884
what do you put on the staff?

vanguards are pretty easy to deal with as a smite psycher

Anyone else crashing whenever they open the penances window? I'm guessing its a mod doing it but penances are too unimportant to go hunting down which one specifically.

>>585161495
>blues
lol
lmao
he doesn't know

>>585161950
you is being them disgrace. I is longtime contribute a a darkertide, you behave and shutt to up me with the pseyker nonsense? all be laugh at you dps lol

>>585093506
Now post the version where they have a giant futa cock. It isn't an authentic crossover until you do.

I really hope the Rippers get buffs. I wish they were as good or even better than the Arbitrator and Huntsman shotguns.

>>585170259
Yep

>>585170259
They are already better than huntsman shotguns though

>>585171523
Considering the Huntsman Shotguns are better than the Arbitrator's shotguns, that's not even remotely close to being true

>doing the ripper tranny routine now
Yawn

>>585171662
Which specific part?

>>585170259
They didn't buff rippers total ammo with recent balance changes, I doubt they care. It's because PBB is an SSS tier ability and Fatshark wants gun focus Ogryn to heavily rely on PBB.

>>585171950
the main issue with the rippers is their utterly atrocious recoil impulse and bloom. Low damage due to poor ADMs and a movement speed penalty while reloading don't help. Blessings are an issue as well, but that's game-wide and not a Ripper-specific problem.

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Remember this shit?

Vermintide 2: Queefs of Magic

nigger

>>585172209
>Bad ADM
Lots of weapons have horrible adm, to the point I think it's intended and I unconsciously accept/forget about it.