Everything's fixed (not) EditionThread Theme: https://youtu.be/yxB0mLjNhWUPrevious Mission: >>585047324>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>AC3 Translation Patcheshttps://pastebin.com/ET0rSVc3>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Kono's twitterhttps://x.com/kazutoki>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
>>585112430Fort Grays and Comona Space Base are both 04 memberberries.
8 is the first time PA has made me think about the Hornet
>>585112586>>585112613thanks for baking, friendsee you again
When you go to ace heaven, what bird will you become?
>>585112479For real man. Flying moles are so fucking based, they grew on me so much and they are my favourite support squadron in game.
>>585112747You are welcome, buddy.
>>585112678You might get lucky or get a good team in warfare that keeps you safe and it's good in emergency sorties but PvE is awful just trying to get across some maps like Fort Grays is the worst
Let's goooo
>>585112749this thing
Not like it's a stat that matter much, but shouldn't aircraft like the Super Hornets, eurotriangles and maybe the Su-47 have some stealth level? And lmao at the Su-57 having the same stealth level as the F-22 in online.
>>585112678>Yes I would like to fly an attacker with small bombs and a top speed of 2000 instead of one with large bobms and a top speed of 3000Statements said by the utterly deranged.
>>585112749>I think I got here by mistake
>>585112749
>>585112895Flying Moles and Immortals should get along well>Fucking Wings won't let us die!>We couldn't kill ourselves either!>AAAAAAAAAAAGH>AAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>585113464>yes, we put all these planes in the game but only four of them are good, so just use those onesStatements said by the utterly deranged.
>>585113447The Su-35 had stealth level 1 in ac7, now it's at 0.
>>585113447>Super HornetsNot really>eudoritosMaybe a little, but itd be too little to matter anyway>su47No, just because its painted black and is angular doesnt mean its stealth
>>585113447No. None of them are stealth planes.
>>585113447no paint, no stealth
>>585113447That one's interesting because they did have minor stealth in 7. Also what the hell I hadn't noticed F-22 gets its stealth nerfed for multiplayer, why did they think that was a good idea?I also find it odd that EA-36 has slightly better stealth than FA-36. Are the hump and the wingtip pods that stealthy?
>>585113703The A-10 exists to be bad. It's supposed to be a meme. It was never good in any AC game in any mission.
>>585114028Its probably a balancing thing to have all the end game fighters of f22/fa36/su57 have thevsame stealth.
>>585114028The F-22 and Su-57 are slightly different in SP but have the exact same copy pasted stats in Online.
>>585114359F-35 has stealth level 6 though(raptor and Felon are 4). And the FA-36 is 5.
>>585114359FA36 beats the other two online. It always has 5 stealth, while Su-57 always has 4 and F-22 has 5 in campaign but 4 online.Mysterious.
>>585114253technically it had FAEBs and the meme skin in 6 which meant it was usable
They're really going to go out on newtype children flying coffin equipped aircraft for corpos in AC9 aren't they? Will we at least get a Kate type figure to balance it all out will be my question?
>>585114414Only difference is Su57 gets great abilities whereas F22 doesn't even the baseline air to air ability literally every other fighter gets.
should i get my AC6 ISO from anywhere specific or is downloading the launch ready version from rutracker good enough?>iso in questionhttps://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6894100
>>585113913>>585113997>>585114015They are not low observable but they are aircraft designed with some RCS reduction measures in mind, and the Su-47 has an internal weapons bay.
>>585114617Isn't Cynthia a kate-type? Even if she's a little crazy
>>585114617Kate is more of a cat wranglerTewy could've very well become a mother to some people
N E W E R R O REW
dunno how y'all buddies feel about fics but I've brainstromed a rough draft for a game before 8 and I feel really funny about it since there were some parallels to my idea and the final game and I felt like sharing for quite a while even before the game came out>starts off with a prologue mission where you play as an Erusean ace pilot during the lighthouse war>get shot down by a lone ace>the screen cuts to black after you crash>a glowing red ring appears on the screen, diagnostics starts flashing>camera zooms out of the diagnostics screen and pans towards an EASA ground crew doing launch checks on an MQ-99 launch platform>you now play as the robo-soul/pseudo-sublimated of the downed pilot from the prologue
>>585112749Shoebill
>>585115039sounds dumb and gay
>>585114957Internal weapons bays pre-date stealth.
>>585114617All I know is that Kate and I are ready and prepared to test the possibility that mute psycho newtype genes can be passed on
>>585115039sounds pretty coolwould the prologue be an actual mission or like the one in 8?
>>585114957an internal weapons bay doesn't magically make your plane stealthy>case in point - F-102
>>585115039I'm half expecting this to be sort of in 9 or a later game, except it happens to someone else
>>585112749>mfw its yet another Belkan conspiracy
>>585114798It doesn't come with the iso per se but rather with a bunch of files extracted out of the iso, which is what the recompiler does if you run it next to it.I used this, had no issues with it. The only thing you execute is the recompiler itself anyway, you can grab it directly from github, the one in your link isn't the newest version anyway, not that it's critical or anything.
>>585112749Stupid robot doesn't understand what I mean.
>>585115480Just mspaint it or make it a collage like ye olde schizoposters did before ai anon. Remember, drones and ai are Belkan/Enso Order bullshit
>>585114957The Su-47 was a testbed for stealth technology, not a stealth aircraft itself. It demonstrated the ability for Sukhoi to make stealth components and features but was never designed as an actual LO/VLO airframe.Forward swept wings, for one, are notoriously bad for stealth.
>>585114974Cynthia is a loser type.>i want to be a computer so i'm going to commit terrorism>oh shit everything went wrong>nemo please make my decisions for me>nemo why aren't you making decisions for me waaaaaah
>>585115024Chewy is a bitch sending kids to their death because its a cult of personality.Kate goes out her way to look after her charges without even asking for thanks. Kate therefore is a true mother type.
>>585115183I was thinking that it'd be your bog standard bomber interception mission 1 mission but having the tutorial mission be one where EASA techs are trying to get the drone to properly fly would be kino so god forbid maybe I'd just make the prologue a DFM section
>>585115146>>585115340No, but it does make it easier and is pretty much a requirement for a truly stealth aircraft. It's an extreme example and still meaningless since both will still be detected at combat ranges, but the B-1 is reported to have a lower radar signature than something like an F-15.
>>585114028>why did they think that was a good idea?Because a QAAM-slinging, PSM-capable plane with the best manoeuvrability in the game is already powerful enough. Imagine if it could also shoot you down without any warning while you're fighting someone else, or if you could lose tracking (and thus the ability to follow it) when dogfighting it.
What's Genette up to these days do you think
>>585115745I am not trying to say that the Su-47 is a stealth aircraft, just that maybe aircraft with some radar signature reduction features like the suberbug could get a low stealth level in the game like how it was in 7, its not like it makes a giant difference but would be best nonetheless.
>>585115867It's a good thing missiles don't already spazz out and jump several kilometers without warninghaha
Aren't 7 and 8 on the opposite end of the killcount scale? Large part of what trigger shot down were drones, while rex was practically feasting on sotoan flesh and blood every almost every mission
>>585114253All they have to do is buff the gun, they can make it as dogshit as they want so long as the gun is good.
>Warfare>Matched against the same 4 man TLS stack every game>Try TDM>Matched against the same 4 man Mig-31/Tomcat stack every gameThis shit is so ass.
>>585116489Are the arsenal birds entirely autonomous or is there human crew in them? I forget
>>585116770>Warfare>ST-3200003 and booted back to lobby>Try TDM>ST-3200003 and booted back to lobbyThis shit is so ass.
Lemme in, 404th>nintendo64x>steamf15 unrelated
>>585116770With an F-16 or F-15C you can shit all over the LAAMniggers in TDM
Unironically think the 18 is the coolest looking of the teen series
>>585116354What, and you're gonna add more shit on top of the pile?
>>585116920arsenal birds were autonomous >>585116489a little bit, but do Sotoans count as people?
where can i get assault horizon on pc?
>>585116109Has he kept up with new mediaHe could have a youtube channel that caters to boomers
>>585117368I honestly googled it, dodi repacks has it somewhere>what about legally?Not happening
>>585117238I have neither of those, but the bigger problem is my team getting instantly fucking clubbed and leaving me just flying evasive most of the match.Still better than the TLS cunts though. For what it's worth.
>>585115797Tewy was a pawn of nationalistic fanaticism and those nuggets had no issue with dying
>>585117514lmao I didn't know it was delisted>Ace Combat: Assault Horizon was delisted from digital storefronts (such as PlayStation Network, Xbox Live, and Steam) due to expired licensing agreements for the real-world aircraft, military hardware, and corporate trademarks featured in the gamebased in this case because asshorizon is trash, but does this mean they'll nuke 7 and eventuall 8 too?
>>585117406Is there an automated bot like on discord or X that can send out a notification when scramble or an emergency sortie is up?
>>585117669That'd be sickPeople would have to willingly hook themselves into it though, and I'm sure some people would prefer to sortie on their own or with specific friends sometimes
>>585117651Probably. There's a possibility they changed the agreements so they won't have to, but if they're the same as the older games then yeah they're going to disappear at some point.6 has also been delisted which is a bad thing because 6 is a good game.
>>585117854why wouldn't mr. lockheed and mr. sukhoi just agree to get royalties forever instead of only allowing the game to be sold for 10 years or whatever
>>585117258I didn't care for it at all (even after Top Gun 2) but it really grew on me after AC8
I'm gonna miss FLARES22 desu, he was a fun skill check
>>585117651Well it was my first proper entry into the series, the only thing I really didn't like was the final boss fight being so stupidly scripted, break sequence and you fucked itI've seen worse games that strayed off from their respective series, as for 7 being taken down well considering the licensing shit happening I wouldn't be surprised but it's less likely with 7 because it's actually fucking good and worth keeping as a modern entry point especially when a steam sale is onBut this is bamco, I can only speculate into their retardation
>>585118040Maybe they don't get royalties. Maybe it's a one off payment and that's it.
>>585118171if that's the case then why do they care if the game is sold forever
>>585117258>When the 14 exists>With the skull and xbones black and yellowEh
>>585118238No idea. I don't know how any of this works and it's not like I can see the agreements. There must be some reason but I don't know what it is.Sucks, doesn't it?
>>585118040Mr. Sukhoi isn't litigious in the first place. It's the HATO jews that are causing these problems. Go check the credits agian. You won't find Sukhoi listed amidst lockheed/dassault/etc.
>>585118126I'll be honest, DFM was a absolute deal-breaker from moment 1. I could tolerate the real world setting, I am probably.one of joint assaults singular defenders in this general, but not being able to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME instead of a glorified qte is unforgivable
>>585118093If they pander to the audience going into 9 (historically they won't) then we won't see a ladon/22 esque encounter
>>585118342Yeah but the 14 doesn't have cool canted tailfins
>>585117329True
>>585118512That's fair, sukhoi isn't one of the world's most advanced multirole aircraft manufacturers so they don't need to protect their brand
>>585118524ThisI alt F4'd and uninstalled AssHorizon before I even finished the first mission because of the DFM thing. No fucking thank you.And I did not appreciate bringing back a simpler form of it in 8, even if it's just a couple occasions.
>>585117514>dodi repacksthis is dodgy as hell
>>585118580>Canted tailfinsIt's not like they're permanently cantedThat's just a takeoff/landing orientation innit?In any case I'm gonna cheat and say the experimental ameritriangle mogs any euro triangle
>>585118941>It's not like they're permanently canted>That's just a takeoff/landing orientation innit?
>>585116769Well its gun is the strongest its ever been, relative to other guns(except for the Frogfoot which has the same gun).
>>585118718Meanwhile China's a paper tiger, but they do the opposite and refuse to risk having their aircraft portrayed in anything but the most positive of lights even in fictional settings.
>>585118941Single engine triangleplens look goofy to me
>>585118729>And I did not appreciate bringing back a simpler form of it in 8, even if it's just a couple occasionsPeople coming on to say it was cute are cringe as hellIt's akin to those uncs who crawl out from under their mole tunnels to remind everyone that the games stopped innovating after zero, and that the franchise peaked with 04I remember DFM with pure hatredBut I did like doing stupid silly shit in bombers and choppers
>>585119124That's because the F-16 has a tiny buttholeIt looks good with the Mirage 2000's massive ass
>>585118941Buddy...
>>585119247How dare you claim the F-16 has no ass.
>>585118891I'd of went fitgirl but couldn't find it there, desu my first actual download was an even dodgier site via google searchIf you got a better place for anon then by all means, but I ain't giving him anything directly
>>585119228The only people who think ace combat peaked at 4 are the people who got it with their PS2 for christmas 25 years ago and it was their first ace combat, there is no other explanation.
>>585119083>TailfinsHad to check my nomenclatureYou mean the vertical tailfinsTheres clearly horizontal tailfins
>>585119350it just annoys me that all these older games are getting pulled not only off of physical shelves but off of digital storefronts too, ostensibly just because of licenses expiring. we genuinely need to beat every single lawyer to within an inch of their lives for making everybody's lives as needlessly frustrating as possible
>>585119398And don't get me started on the >Bro music peaked with comona in 04CrowdI don't even remember enjoying it as a wee lad, the first AC entry I got into as a boy was 5, and maybe that was because I got the flight sticc
>>585119421No, tailfin means vertical stabilizers, there's no other tailfins and I don't know what sort of tailfin you're thinking of that's canted "only for take off and landing" on the F-18
>>585118729It's still better than the implementation of DFM in 7, where they made Mihaly and Wiseman do it instead and force you to watch for like a minute.I really want to know what the fuck the devs were thinking when they actually thought spectating two NPCs playing AH would be enjoyable.
>>585118093>Skill checkIt was pretty obviously not functioning correctly after the 10th consecutive flare drop. It wasn't even exclusive to Topkek, just whoever was the last one standing
>>585119542To be fair companies deserve money for their productsYou have to wonder once both parties get to the table if it's worth itThat would explain AC's historically [all over the place] budget allotmentAlso we've come a long way since"Squeenix and Disney execs sharing an office building and coming up with crazy shit in an elevator" unfortunately
>>585119605HereEspecially when considering.nowadays and in ac8 there are no vertical tailwings (if even there are more than 1 pair of wings) the wings that go horz and the wings that go vertical are literally both at the tail end of the plane
>>585119350>If you got a better place for anon then by all means, but I ain't giving him anything directlyrohankar seems to be doing good work fixing up and uploading old games.
Beat mission 10
>>585119982I still want to know what you meant by >That's just a takeoff/landing orientation innit?
>>585120050Good news anon. They're casualizing the game for you soon.
>>585114253The A-10's purpose is to trick you into picking it for a ground attack mission that actually turns into a pure A2A mission 1/3 of the way through.
>>585120050Better hurry anon
>>585117258it's a very cool plane but I like the shape of the 14 a lot more. It's got those meaty shoulders.
>>585117368https://ankergames.net/game/ace-combat-assault-horizon-enhanced-edition
>>585120050Unironically coming to 4chan 3 weeks in is spoiler safe compared to -1 to +1 week inHow's the game so far for youAlot of people think it starts strong, drags in the middleI think it starts blandly but doesn't stop being interesting past mission8
>>585119801>To be fairto be fair potential consumers shouldn't have the rug pulled out from under them because you don't know how to properly come up with sensible terms for a contract and your lawyer won't help you either because he's a greedy backstabbing rat just like the rest of them
>>585120107I'm talking the literal entire tail horizontal wing being canted downwards
>>585120480>Potential consumers>10-20 years laterAlot of Japanese companies seem guilty of "well 20 years later we'll make a better version or iteration" syndrome as it turns outBasically I think it makes sense to just do it better in a remakeI don't like 04 on revisit, but go through all the trouble to renegotiate the licenses?Might as well reuse 8's assets and make a remake with better gameplay and... More yellow 13 lmao
>>585120521Brother what could possibly have made you think that's what I was referring to when I said "canted tailfins" clearly meaning something the F-18 has and the F-14 doesn't, when virtually every jet fighter for the past several decades has had all-moving elevators like those
>Basically I think it makes sense to just do it better in a remake
What was the "meta" in AC games before LAAM and LACM? I imagine X must had the most degenerate multiplayer since the default missiles suck ass in that game
feels like it takes forever to get good planes in zero, it's so stingy with the money it gives you
>>585121025QAAMSPAM
>>585120970I share a thread with these animals god dammit, just nuke it all
>>585120826Maybe you liked the different geometry idk
>Just saw another person breaking down at the end of AC8This game really hits that spot
>>585121117Literally just get the 37? Best bombs.
>>585121025I don't think X had multiplayer.QAAMs in 7 were way stronger than 8.TLS in Infinity.
>>585121212i would, but it's expensive and i'm poor
>>585120970Well they clearly don't haven't shown a belief that it's financially viable to renegotiate the licensing to resell the games, so which would you preferNo game, or to be a little bitch about it
>>585121254>I don't think X had multiplayer.It does, but not online, ad hoc only
>>585117591Still doesn't mean she is a complete bitch.>Comes from a background of privilege >All about position and status>Happy to throw her minions to their death>Doesn't care about the lives of others>Will encourage children to fly to their doom>Talks down to everyone>Got stuck in a wheelchair first real fight she had>All about face saving>Happy to commit warcrimesMeanwhile Kate>Comes from an average background>All about looking after the people under her command>Uneasy about letting others being put in harms way>Will actively try to protect others even those not part of her squadron>Would ground someone like Tasha permanently to avoid her seeing combat if it was practical >Tries to encourage others and build them up>Keeps going on despite multiple injuries and facing constant battle>Doesn't care about her reputation only that people make it back alive>Does her duty and does not revel in itKate is a true woman.
>>585121025LAAM was still pretty good in 7, stealthsnipers were a pain in the assBut they were easy to counterReally just stealth in general and PSM nonsense made multiplayer super lame and terrible, people only ever flew a handful of the same planes and loadoutsAt least /aceg/ could host a good lobby every once in a while
>>585119709I mean using missiles to bait the flare dump/kulbit and gun running them down seems to be difficult to grasp for a surprising number of people
>>585121454Tewy is complete slag materialKate is complete wife materialShould have summed it up as such.
>>5851210257 had a lot of busted shit, PLSL and EML at short/midrange, HVAA and LAAM at long range. Both HVAA/LAAM were far more cancerous than they are in 8.AC6 had QAAMspam. Especially the Im@s Berkut.
>>585121117You can sell planes for the same acquisition price
>>585121454Yeah but Tewy gets a +10 point bonus for being evil. By god I love evil women so much.
>>585121454>Talks down to everyoneI never got this at all>Happy to throw her minions to their deathShe's voiced her displeasure the mostShe does it because it's her job as a military commanderAlso you can't blame her for correctly assuming her average strategies won't work because they all correctly utilize superior numbers>All about face saving>Happy to commit warcrimesThat's a baseline for sotoans, she's pretty alright once you factor out that humpI'm not saying it's irrelevant,but as far as sotoans go shes alright>Meanwhile KateDidn't read, there's a reason I check my twitter feed for Kate posts every day and not tewy posts
>>585121309there's not really any fair way to do it as of right now so that everybody is compensated fairly, someone always loses out and in this case it's the consumer. it makes sense for the aircraft manufacturer to lose out because realistically how much money is an aircraft manufacturer going to make from contracting out their license to a video game company? a few tens of millions, max? that doesn't even account for 0.1% of their yearly revenue. they're just being overly stingy with the length of the contracts for no good reason
>>585121746LAAMs in 7 kinda sucked anywhere below 7k.Their tracking in 8 is insane by comparison, they'll still regularly hit shit at 3k out.
Speaking of Zero, how come that one gives you three startersTheere should be three starters in 8 too
>>585121025>>585121254TLS was not meta in ACI. There were very few people that used it. Probably because the only fighter that got it was the Falken and it was obscenely expensive.Popular air specials were QAAM, HVAA, and 6AAM (only on normal maps, the hard mode health boost made them bad there). Though the real air meta was just buffing standard missiles to be godlike.Popular ground specials were FAEB, SFFS, LAGM/LASM. Early on UGB and LAGM were insanely overpowered so everyone was using them but then they got nerfed so that changed. LACM was actually pretty bad in ACI. It only became good in 7.
>>585122024Right so we agree it's either remake or doesn't justify itself in anyone's business plans so anon can just whine endlessly instead Or we get a cursed release with shitty electrosphere-not-planes and Russian planes
>i speak like le ebil person from ze cartoonst. TewyFor fuck's sake man, worst direction to ever take with this shit.
>>585122067To be fair the the 3 starters are fairly eeehAlso you don't have enough money to buy multiroles and save up for the 37 otherwise>>585122115Even then ciws rekt lacms as they do in 8
Look at me.Waifus are temporary.Salvation is forever.
>>585122053LAAM in 7 has bad homing for 5.2 seconds and then starts tracking well.LAAM in 8 has bad homing for 1.2 seconds and then starts tracking well.I don't know who thought that change needed to happen but they probably shouldn't be allowed to make decisions.
>>585122303I saw the voice direction as more akin to rosieBoth have this slow, mechanically correct and (owing to the localization efforts I'm assuming) straight up bizarre choice of wordsThe worst you can accuse tewy of is speaking in "holier than thou"
None of the PS2 games need a remake
>>585122228>bb-ut muh billion dollar companylmao shut the fuck up anon
You ever stop to think how stupid and absurd it is for these huge machines to fly at 2000+ kph and pull enough Gs to kill the human inside them like it's nothing
>>585115797why do people think that Gemma squadron being slaughtered was Tewy's fault, she said herself that it was a waste to get them to test out the Game fighters
>>585122465Torres what happened to your face
>>585122465Scream needed salvation
Didn't Gemma squadron take off against orders?
>>585122527War bad, planes rad
>>585122527Actually, it's pretty cool
>>585122053I almost never die to LAAMs in 8 mate. They're easy to evade so long as you know they're coming.7s LAAMs only sucked if you fired them up close. Otherwise they were pretty good and became outright impossible to dodge above a certain distance.
>>585122518Oh you're right billion dollar companies don't negotiate in their best interests and we should magically rely on random shit like "never again unattainable" pre-order bound copies of games lolFuck you and fuck European retardation
>>585122527>and pull enough Gs to kill the human inside themNah, I'd win.
>mission: blow up the twin towersDamn air combat has no chill.Cool to see that night missions have always been kino though.
>>58512266095% of this general are retards who played in a coma while gooning to AI porn
>>585122527Flying isn't real anonYou are telling me that if you drive this car really fast on a straight road it will magically take to the sky?Yeah whateverI've taken """planes""" in my life but the windows are just holo screens that give you the impression of movementEver tried to ask a steward during the """flight""" that you are okay where you are and you want to get down?They would start stuttering and sweating, because they know the gig is up
>>585122527No
>>585122527It's been like a week since chuck Yeager broke the barrier like 70 years agoIt would be crazy if we called it a day at mach 1>>585122660The only people who ordered them off the field was the field commander at expo city
>>585122940When you look at how much fuel is supposed to be in a civilian airline, and compare it to a tank of that same fuel, it becomes pretty obvious that airplanes are fake.
You'd think there would be a small airforce and a lot more AA and SAMs protecting excalibur, but that mission's a walk in the parkX did it better
>>585122660No, they were doing a training exercise and lost their commander so they decided to enter the combat zone for real. Enso probably took out the commander and pushed them to enter the fight so they could gather live beta testing data on their brand new prototype airframes.
>EW plane nerfs across the boardHah! Suck it!
>>585122527The machine starts to get fucked when pulling killer Gs tooIsn't picrel that one F-15 who pulled more than It should and never got to fly again?
>>585123485>that spoilered partYou're probably right.
>>585122660Take a look at the nickname you get when you fly the fa36 50 times in MP and make your own conclusions.
>>585123525>reduce ew duration>now people bring more ew planes to have the same uptimeBrilliant, PA.
>>585123758>Crash my plane>Deny kill and reload my EWWow it's nothing!
>>585123485this
>>585123574>Doesn't even get genuinely useful data out of the whole affair because the pilots never pushed the planes at all
>>585124020"Be less stupid next time" is potentially the most valuable data you could ever acquire
>>585122774It's true you could do some really fucky things with 7's LAAM/HVAA super homing bug in PVP I may or may not have an FB-22 LAAMsniper build that I pull out when EMLspammers show up but in 8 their effective window is ridiculous for a supposed "long-range specialty" type weapon, especially against NPC targets.They have the longest lock-on range in the game and the second highest flight speed, so any LAAMboat gets first pick of all the juicy aerial targets, which makes them so broken in Assault.>>585124020They learned the auto-eject feature was unreliable and needed work.
>>585124020>alright boys we've figured out that the new plane will explode if shot with a sidewinder
>>585114617Rena literally flew for GR when she was 9, loli pilots are the future
>>585112586>Adjusted the maximum number of flares available to Shadow 22 and wingmenshitter cucks
>>585124482Literally the beginnin of the end.
I didn't realize how good a lifelime in the desert was while playing, like damn
>>585122654Wait wouldn't have Kate been about the same age as Scream at the time of AC7? Think Kate was a goth chick in her youth?
>>585124142Give this guy a promotion!
>>585114617child soldiers are too 90s and it's harder to market children to normies. bandai ain't putting kids in the game again
>>585124742The way she vibed with coster's beat she was definitely more of a clubber than a mosher
>>585124742Would a goth chick get a bee tattoo
>>585123539Don't know about the pic, but it's a very real thing. Sometimes you can get away with replacing parts, but others they basically break their back to get you back on the ground. I can't recall the incident, but I had a really cool crossection image of a passenger jet that had been overloaded several times over, and the real pictures actually show how the wings twisted and the airframe warped during the event, and the cross section showed that every single point had overloaded, it was basically a razor thin margin off from the thing ripping itself to pieces. I'll try to find it.
>>585124742>gothShe was a dancer
Bring her back PA you cowards.
>>585121454>Would ground someone like Tasha permanently to avoid her seeing combat if it was practicalWhich reminds me, how the fuck did Tasha launcher her F18 in that rainband mission? It's not like she can just sneak into the cockpit and take off before anyone can stop her. She's dependent upon the deck crew hooking her up into the catapult to assist with takeoff. She can't launch without the Endurance giving her the green light.
>Nerf all EW equally so that double Barricader will still be meta anywaylole
These interview clips are all so silly and yet so coolI love how this series refuses to take itself too seriously
>>585122527air is just a fluid and ironically jet engines are relatively simple, especially compared to piston engine counterpartsreally we had invented jet engines long before we could fly them. we had jet engines designed in the 1920s, we just didn't have any metal to withstand the thermal load
So the secret to a good superweapon bossfight is to have it be crewed by absolute maniacs who will spend every single drop of blood they have trying to kill you. One final "fuck you and this whole grid square" moment also preferred
>>585125624That's the thing actually. AC takes it's stupid nonsense completely seriously outside a few moments and I think it's great for that
>>585125708Either that or kewl plane jousting. Your 2 boss types are the Alicorn and the Pixy, yes, even if the boss was released before them
>>585125548She had the green lightYou just don't get to pick the plane because they were surprising you for dramatic effect in the plot you goofball
>Fixed an issue where radio voices and SEs might not play correctly during the missionI had this one happen Tasha said something over the radio after that all my missile and gun sounds were silent for the rest of the mission.
>>585125548Apparently she joined the FCU officially so was now considered part of the military. Was expecting Baxter to go apeshit at that.
>>585125624It does take itself too seriously, just not in the creative frontEvery actor and plot point is 100% committed to the butIt's why borderlands will always be irredeemable Trash since everyone but the player is in on the joke
>>585125837Nosferatu was a fun boss even if he was the start of the UAV nonsense.
IT'S ASSAULTWHY ARE PEOPLE LEAVING IN ASSAULTYOU WON'T GET SHOT DOWNI JUST WANT TO GET MY DAILY AND WEEKLY DONE
>>585125708Take a look at the alicorn>Good balance of air hazards to restrict your attack angles>Healthy amount of ground and air targets>"Forces" a trench run of sorts at some pointAll hall marks of a good super weapon, make me fly for a crazy angle and annoy the hell out of me with proto savians who fly eurotriangles and keep bitchin betty bitching at me about pulling up and MISSILE!
>>585122527I think it's crazy how planes are huge but some planes are HUGE. Flankers absolutely mog stuff like the F-16/Mig-29/euro-triangles in size.
>>585126272Assault is an insult!
>>585126272Because 2 or 3 meta planes means you basically don't get to play the game. Fuck you, I'm leaving.
>>585126272Ditto but for scramblesIdk if it's networking or dodging but I can't be bothered anymore enjoy your 10$ PA I've done my part and look forward to the next non shit plane or SP addition
>>585125624>Ace Combat 04 had motion comic cutscenes>Ace Combat 5 had Tom Clancy-style CGI cutscenes>Ace Combat Zero had live-action FMVs>Ace Combat 6 had in-engine cutscenes>AC7 had CGI cutscenes>AC8 has in-engine cutscenesLeaves us with the live-action FMVs and motion comic for 9 and 10.
>>585126337twin engine boys are xbox hueg
>>585121454>Kate>Comes from an average backgroundHow can you be so sure? she migth come from money for all we know
>>585122527>>585126337
>>585126337The Fullback is basically the length of a tennis courty
>>585126503F16 mogged
>>585126337Some planes are meant to engage a fuckton of targets and fuck off so they need an effective payload for the effort it takes to deploy them Others are in case they need to dogfight I'm assuming. A ww2 carrier escort isn't expected to deploy the same assault force as a ww2 carrier
>first patch of the game>just makes SP worse by catering to casual retards>0 relevant changes for MP and no fixes for the many issues it hastime to pack it up
>>585126503>>585126528For comparison, they are bigger than a Gundam, you know, the basic idead of a giant robot in the minds of people. Gundam is 18m the Su34 is 22m for example
>>585126331MISSILE will from now on be accompanied with [RAILGUN WARNING]
>>585126370F-4 Phantom is meta?
>>585126727classic bamco game patch notes. even PA gets the scamco treatment
>>585126481The zero format just worked well for a lean budgetI wouldnt mind if they went full retro again for a retro style documentary/retelling narrative again
>>585126520In M28 she says "Not me, D.D. will foot the bill." when asked how she could afford to hire the Savians.
>>585126698Not necessarilyStill has an arguably better bubble canopy than the raptor (pilot is relatively higher in the plane and gets a better view) and supposedly the better flyer's plane
Hear me out, PA... it would be so fucking funny.
>>585126481I'm fine with motion comics. What matters is the story, and they age better as graphics improve over time.
>>585126337Even piston plens in WW2 were huge
>>585127026raptor doesn't even need a clear canopy. you're never going to see what you're shooting at anyways
>>585124020The artbook describes the FA-36 as an easy to fly plane full of automated features, they probably wanted to test if those where enough to make nuggets combat effective
>>585125110But, like, white people dancing, not twerking.
>>585126481X had drawn cutscenes too, it was cool
>>585127135>Let's take the starfighter and make it scarier to flyWut
>>585127173Bigger
>>585126815>Being an obtuse retard on purpose
>>585127181>Hurr durr let's design a plane for dogfighting but also stealth and long range engagementsWe really shoulda went with the black widow ii
>>585126337It always fucks with my brain that the F-15 is only slightly shorter than a full-blown B-17.
>>585125106>>585123539Found it.
>>585127394>Obtuse strawmanning during euro hoursIconic
>>585126891the Savians inherently recognize royalty though, it's in their blood. She's just laying low and humble. Kate will take care of me in her castle when I'm old and infirm after years of high-G warfare
>>585127469i think the main purpose of its maneuverability is to make it better at altitude where air is super thin. it needed thrust vectoring for that, it just happens that the maneuverability is good for air shows too. i don't know if it was ever meant for dogfighting
>>585127846High-g is a belkan invention, it does not actually exist
Wew
Oh yeah, now we're talking.
Do you reckon someone could get away with calling an F-16 a Viper, licensing/copyright/trademark/whatever wise? It's not like it's the plane's official name.
>>585127568I can't stop thinking about kate
>>585127394It's a matter of perspective don't you think?
>>585128123They should name it the Vic Viper.
>>585128089>Ugh why won't Rex clean his plane and waits for me to do it?
>>585128089I don’t think Kate is that stacked.
>>585128103we need a backwards-targeting missile
>>585128016I think it's often been implied, admittedly by Lockheed (lol) that the raptor isn't optimized for its jobAlot of the maneuverability gubbins it has over the widow make it more maneuverable than a stealth geometry fighter should beBut it fails the dogfights it's forced to simulate>i think the main purpose of its maneuverability is to make it better at altitude where the air is super thinAnd I'm almost certain based on the US track record it was picked for "bradley esque reasons" i.e. it looks like it fills the most roles
>>585128103Dirty up that plane buddy.
>>585128123
>>585127518Embraers are pretty solid aircraft, especially considering where they supposedly are from.
>Play Scramble>"Here comes the boom..."What the fuck did I just listen to.
For me? It's gotta be Roundel or Kippenburg.
>>585128123The viper in ac8 is the Japanese plane
>>585128694The best of Assault Horizon
>>585128089Tat is missing the "GOOD KILL" text btw
>>585128506First off,> bradley esque reasonsPentagon Wars was not a documentary and James Burton was a fucking retard (as all reformers are)Secondly, it’s pretty well known that the Air Force picked the less stealthy, more maneuverable aircraft because they were, and still are, in the grip of the fighter mafia who think stealth is a fad and maneuverability is king.Thirdly, it doesn’t matter because the YF-22 was much further along in development than the YF-23. And look at the amount of shit the F-22 gets for being expensive, then imagine how much more it would have gotten if they had went with the less mature design.Lastly, the grass isn’t actually greener, you fucking retard.
>>585128089I like to think because we literally never see her sleeves or body she's tatted the fuck up
>>585128493>AC9 protag has a full HMD suite and can target bandits off bore for HOBS launchesthat'd be sweet. idk how they'd make it work for controller though
>>585128946>Secondly, it’s pretty well known that the Air Force picked the less stealthy, more maneuverable aircraft because they were, and still are, in the grip of the fighter mafiaSo even if my information is half correct, I am correct that someone went with the raptor with the idea that could dogfightChill out lmao
>>585129041Have the targeting radius follow the Hold-Y tracking camera
>>585128506The Raptor is usually severely hampered in those mock dogfights because they don't want to give away its full capabilities. Think external fuel tanks, limited max thrust vectoring angle, etc.
>>585128694it's our theme song
>>585128694Absolute kino is what
>>585128397Pregnancy does that to women.
>>585128946>Secondly, it’s pretty well known that the Air Force picked the less stealthy, more maneuverable aircraft because they were, and still are, in the grip of the fighter mafia who think stealth is a fad and maneuverability is king.this is internet nonsense. i already said the real reason it's maneuverable.it's a high-altitude BVR platform. when you're at high altitude, there's less air, so your control surfaces are less effective and it costs more energy to move.the F-22 can move more efficiently with less air, which means it can use more energy to go higher faster, which means its no-escape zone is higher, which is what it's made to do. it makes plenty of logical sense when you understand the fluid dynamics
>>585129161I think intuitively>A plane with stealth geometrySimply isn't going to fly like a plane, which is why fly by wire is mandatory>they don't want to give away its full capabilitiesIn a pushing 30 year old fighter?It's been shown that in the same series of mock battles the raptor excels at what it excels at, getting a missile lock and fucking off before you do the same to it
The people bitching about the Ladons literally just don't know how to play the game. They were the most unique challenge they've put in one of these games in a long time
>log in>search for Emergency Sortie>no dice, so play Assault>search for Emergency Sortie again>mvp the Alicorn with Fulllback>search for Emergency Sortie just for shits and giggles>some lobby shitters Alt+F4 out of the Arsenal Bird>mvp the Alicorn with Fullback again>play Warfare once>log off
>>585126481I think going full anime like 3 would be interesting. Put Sunrise on the job and give them that sweet OVA budget.
>>585129456A 30 year old fighter that still has a reputation of being the deadliest thing in the skies. If its actual performance numbers get out, those become the target for next-gen Chinese (and Russian, if they can scrounge up the money) fighter projects.
>>585128834>>585129187>>585129278It's nigger garbage is what it is
>>585129387>and it costs more energy to moveThere's no way that's trueMaybe to accelerate and decelerate it's trueOr am I supposed to believe that the air is so thin it's less fuel efficient than low/moderate altitude wind resistance
>>585129613I got MVP on the Arsenal Bird with a lvl4 F-15J, what these people are even on.
>>585129719>A 30 year old fighter that still has a reputation of being the deadliest thing in the skiesSorry but as much as I like that rhetoric I'm pretty sure that credit goes to the F-15Which for the Israelis have shot down more planes than the raptor and its... Chinese weather balloon kill I'm not saying it's not deadly, but deadliest in the skies is some "euro fighter best cutting edge plane" rhetoric
>>585129953MVP'ing E-Sorties doesn't mean anything when you can luck out and get the killshot for big bucks
>>585129940oh buddy.. it's the same reason that astronauts can't turn in zero g.ailerons and elevators aren't magical. they only work when the air pushes against them, which leverages the airframe. if there's no air to push the control surfaces, the plane just goes in a straight line from the thrust of the engine
>>585130103The Raptor was designed to exceed the Eagle in basically every metric, and everyone knows how good the Eagle is.
>>585130103>kill ratio faggingThe F2A Buffalo is the deadliest thing in the skies. Unlike the F-15 it participated in actual wars with peer or even superior opposition.
>>585130145Is that it just saw an F-15C outscore everyone I figured SASM were too good there
>>585130145Well I certainly didn't get the core because I was already out of cannon ammo by then.
I'm pretty sure that 90% of players online don't even know that you have a gun since the game doesn't tell you to use it in campaign
>>585129775Behold, a man with no joy in his heart
>"Are we hearing the dead?!">>Yes!I kinda laughed
>>585130103>Unironically believing Yid kill claims.
>>585117329[When asked how it felt to take human life]<<"I wouldn't know, I've only killed Sotoans.”>>>t.Rex
>>585130320I'm hearing maneuverability so yeah one attack angle, turn, and burnBut "moving taking more energy" is not the same as "turning is less possible" otherwise I'd expect them to be flying on the ground>>585130431Okay I didn't say air superiority he said deadliest thing in the skiesShooting manned planes down is deadlyA Chinese weather balloon, weather manned or not by chinamen hardly counts>Oh bro on paper the tiger tank was the deadliest tank in ww2, never mind that it had shit numbers and getting shot at by one on the eastern front was like winning the lottery
I miss the drones intercepting missilesthe forcefield and swarm drones are both considerably less cool
>>585129953It's crazy. Everyone should be happy to roll the Arsenal Bird, it's basically free General blueprints. With my luck though it's normally Chandelier and the Alicorn, which is fine because I haven't seen an ESortie fail in forever but carrying randoms gets annoying.I just want to upgrade some cool plens, next I'll probably buy and uncap the F-16/Su-25 and by the time the Barricader's fully leveled I should have more than enough Golds to uncap the Growler and start leveling that again.
>>585131079I mean yid casualty claims are a big lol as we know with muh 6 million relief planBut shooting down hajjis? Yeah if anything they underplay those so people whine less about how many people they kill
>>585131238They still do for the ladonIt's why you need the cover formation since you +3 wingmates are what's needed to overwhelm the ciws and drones the intended way
>>585131162it takes more energy to turn at high altitudes because there's less air so you need to go faster to catch more air. if you try to turn without going faster when there's less air, you lose energy and fall out of the sky
Someone worked hard on making that lobby so I always run up to nugget to do burpees before menuing
Same but I turn myself into a hidden point of interest for the other lobbyists.
>>585127348But that's a bomber, we're talking fiters
>>585131162>>585131632this is the equation for lift. if you drop air density, you have to increase velocity to keep the same level of lift
>>585131491would you believe I didn't even notice the drones on the ladons, I thought it was all ciws. But as cool as that fight is I'm basically only looking at the engines to make sure I'm hitting the right thing while using the MG on the other.
>>585127482>Send F-15 back in time to WWII>Watch Kraut and Nip pilots shit themselves in fear as they watch something as big as a bomber pull moves that would rip their plane in half if they tried it.
>>585131632>>585132120and this is why thrust vectoring was a no-brainer for a high-altitude missile launcher. it solves the problem so easily
>>585132214>But as cool as that fight is I'm basically only looking at the engines to make sure I'm hitting the right thing while using the MG on the other.If you pace out your missiles as the game intended it launches at drones that actively fly interception patterns and they can and will eat your missiles for the ladonsWhen I did my ace hunt I gave them a chance to "form change" and the drones do actively fly into your missiles>>585132120I'm not arguing turn characteristics, I'm just verifying with you that "high energy requirements at altitude" applies to turns and acceleration" but not necessarily maintaining speed
>>585132415I don't think you're making a fair comparisonWwi biplanes could pull some "retarded fantasy bullshit" level maneuvers iirc
>>585132775>When I did my ace hunt I gave them a chance to "form change" and the drones do actively fly into your missilesneat, I'll have to pay attention to that when doing medal hunting.
>>585131112I killed savians too
>>585132934And he said WW2, not WW1, where planes were much bigger and heavier than those biplanes.
>>585132991FCU separatists as well
>>585129456>It's been shown that in the same series of mock battles the raptor excels at what it excels at, getting a missile lock and fucking off before you do the same to itNarrator's note: This is THE most important thing that you can do in modern air combat. By a lot.
>>585133276I'd say the jump from wwi to wwii is the same as to modern The loss in "BS levels of maneuverability" is generational but linear isnt it?
>>585132775>but not necessarily maintaining speedkind of. the air is thin but it's still there. turning bleeds your speedthat's what the F-22 is designed to fix. those two fuckhuge engines brute force their way out of bad physics. the F-22 thrust to weight ratio is absurd
>>585133486I'm aware of this, I'm just saying the myth that it was being "held back" is just thatIt can't dogfight for shit and it doesn't need to
>>585131491I didn't need to cover formation I did it with nothing but guns and fuck load of missiles.>>585132775I've had them launch at different points in the level.Once they didn't deploy until I had shot down one of the bombers.Another they deployed not long after you can target them.A third time they didn't deploy until both bombers were down to sea level for the 2nd and final passA fourth time was just funny >Holding down guns>Drones are launched right into my gunfire they die the second they spawn.
>>585132415They'd probably not even identify it as an airplane if they saw it on the ground first>what are these big holes in the front>and these swept wings?>and look at these big holes at the back!>where's the propeller, then?>why is it so pointy?>what are these long pointy tubes hanging off the wings?
>>585133520Yeah I think of that and the way the sr-71 worksAlthough at that point it's not fair since the 71 is more avoiding air friction being more relevant
>>585133731>I didn't need to cover formationTrueBut wingmans can eat and shrug off the VLS QAAMs for you so I do it
>>585133771we had jet engines back then, they'd be more impressed with the metal the plane is made out of because that was what was holding us back from building planes out of them back then
>>585132415>>585133771Germany Britain USA probably Japan most countries were working on jets as early as the 30s it's not that far out
>>585133668I think the raptor can dogfight better than other Gen5s. That can matter in a hypothetical battle against peer gen5s. I think many gen 4's can outmaneuver a raptor, but who cares? The meta changed. Then gen 4's won't survive long enough to get close to a raptor. Many Gen 3's can outrun the fuck out of gen 4's and 5s. That doesn't matter since the meta changed.
>>585133846No the SR-71 is the pinnacle of bruteforcing your way to absurd speeds by having turbojet engines that morph into ramjets
>>585133731>I've had them launch at different points in the level.I'm reminded time and time again that people say this is not a dynamic missionLiterally everybody has a different experience with this mission and I've never seen them pull a PSM and once again I'm reminding people how retarded they are when they make excuses for how by the numbers this mission is (when it isn't)
>>585134068turboramjets are awesomei stuck one in a fishbed in flyout and made it go mach 3 at 11km altitude
>>585134009>>585134010Yes, scientists and engineers knew what a jet engine was and probably had an idea of what jet aircraft were going to look, but I'm talking about your regular piston plane airman who knows nothing about any of that
>>585133771>>what are these long pointy tubes hanging off the wings?They had dumb rockets during the war, although that might confound them as well.
LAAM wipes the floor with NPCs, but it isn't strong against aware players. If you're already fighting someone else and you get hit by a third-party LAAM, you would've died at most five seconds later to a well-lined up gun or to any other missile type.
>>585134227in that case the average person today looks at a jet in pretty much the same way kek
>>585134002Fair enoughI just held down the gas and the missiles will always overshot you. Plus it gives a cool Macross visual effect to see 8 missiles all aiming at you from all directions and they all over shoot you.
>>585134065I think the 57 is so retardedly huge looking it has to be a solid maneuver fighterLooks like it has so much wingBut I imagine its a dogshit stealth plane
>>585128089Jesus that's a lot of skin marks, i hope she doesn't get skin cancer
Kate might be the perfect woman
>>585134415the 57 is what they call "low observability"meaning they were like "yeah let's make a stealth jet" and then they started sticking more and more features into and onto the fuselage and realized it's not a stealth jet anymore kek
>>585134315Complete bullshit.
>>585134556Do you think it's more or less stealth than the J-20? I heard canards do weird things for stealth.
>>585134010Believe it or not the earliest jet aircraft took off in the 1920s. You'd be shocked just how early those things are.
>>585134407>I just held down the gasUnironically the best way to dealt with VLS/QAAMs/SAMs, high energy bleeds are prolly why toprak/tewy does so much damage to players
>when you beat someone in a high G turn duel/psm and are already on your way out as they come about just in time to see missiles coming right at them
>>585134216You can hit mach 3 with a regular turbine with stupid enough settings. I've gone up to mach 8 with ramjetsNow that there's rockets you can probably attain truly absurd speeds way up near the edge of space but in my experience the game stops rendering the world at something like 350k feet
>>585134685way less. as long as the canards are angled the same as the other wings they shouldn't compromise the frontal RCS too much (frontal is the one that matters the most).what really kills the 57's RCS is the little bits and bobbles all over it. like the IRST balls on either side are just giant flares on a radar
>>585131983I like to use the "ready for takeoff" emote to point at funny things, or the salute next to anyone doing thr "drop dead" one
>>585134415>>585134065The 57 is a funny plane. I suspect that it maneuvers better than the 22, but that the 22 mogs it in stealth and avionics (which is what matters most IRL). I am however gleefully looking forward to 5th gens in warblunder and I suspect the 57 to be the strongest gen 5 in that game by a mile. Not necessarily because of dev favoritism, but just because of the way people in that game fly. Almost nobody stands off and does BVR combat. They call dive onto the deck and then leap headfirst into visual range. Within visual range I suspect that the 57 will have an advantage. On top of that the 57 is one of the few planes that employs a DIRCM countermeasure system, which might be the only way to meaningfully defend yourself against advanced modern FOX-2s. I question how well it works IRL, but even a spotty DIRCM in game will be a sight better than planes that don't have it at all.I'm going to laugh so fucking hard watching americans using the F-22 to bomb bases with dumb bombs just like they did with the F-15 and F-4 before it.
>>585134650Prove it. Evading missiles is all about awareness, angles, and not getting overwhelmed. LAAMs are easy to evade in a 1v1, while a 2v1 is a dogshit situation to be in no matter your opponent's weapon. In fact, standard missiles are more reliable in that case because of the targeting bonus.
>>585134685Typically the more retarded a plane looks I've found the more likely it is a good stealth planeAnd I think the j-20 looks mighty retardedAlso I should hope stolen US stealth tech is competent at stealth
>warfare, artiglio>enemy team does a reasonable comp with Su-34, F-2, Su-57, Morgan (ECM/TLS)>whole team rolled out in Barricaders and completely shut down all funJesus Christ. I locked in first and stopped paying attention until the match started, wish I'd had the presence of mind to record that shit. That was absolutely filthy.
>>585134991My favorite random encounter was seeing one player do an air bicyles ab exercise, right into the crotch of another player doing the drop dead pose. That one definitely drew a crowd.
>>585135226Reddit plain will get nerfed soon
>>585135059take it back, the nighthawk is beautiful
>>585135015To date the only authentic dickhead playstyle I've ever experienced was in oVer G fighters>Log into online>Pick raptor>Take off>Nothing but blue skies and horizons for like 10 fucking minutes>Acquired a lock>Phoenix away!>Turn and go back and reload>Match ends>5 missiles fired at me that didn't come close>4 missiles launched for 4 killsRealism is just not cool
>>585135059Depends on if the competent part out weighed the greed part and they didn't cut a lot of parts to pocket all that extra yuan.
I for some reason never used the Hornet or the Super Hornet in Ace Combat till this game. I've been missing peak
>>585135714Yeah but if you took it to an aerospace engineer 70 years ago and said "this is able to fly" they'd be checking the calendar to see if it's April or calling the FBI on you if they work at area 51
>>585134451She may be one of the few wingmen to match the protagonist bloodlust.
>>58513597818E with SODs will carry you through most of the game
The FA-36 should've been a multirole. And aside from "because MC use Carrier planes" why did they design it as a carrier capable plane?
>>585135978Yeah the super hornet is like the first non shit plane unlocked in zeroOh and the DLC hornet has crazy performance in ac7
>>585135643Lowering activation time will help but not as much as you'd want, unless they completely gut its uptime. The real problem is that ECM/IEWS shuts down the game almost completely while its up, because the vast majority of players aren't going to be able to compete guns only when their enemies have missiles. Bombs and dumbweapon planes are unaffected but still get tied up by having an enemy targeting them, which still achieves the goal of hindering groundpounders from scoring.
>>585136117Yup, that was my main plane on my first playthrough
>>585136247>Yeah the super hornet is like the first non shit plane unlocked in zeroyou get a Gripen very early and even a terminator
>>585135913You see a lot of that in warblunder too. Just BVR missiles melting people that don't know how to evade, and then usually one team gets a numbers advantage and steamrolls the other. But every now and then the teams are evenly match and it comes down to 2-4 players that very much know how to defend against missiles and will defeat all of your Fox-3s and IRCCM Fox-2s in their sleep. Then you get your Pixy "Still Alive?" moment where in the end the match's outcome comes back down to guns.
>>585136247>>585136332take it the fuck back
>>585136081It's not that different from some of the crazy flying wing designs some madmen were tinkering with back in the day
>>585136678That's why I stopped at early subsonic jets with sidewindersThe problem is that gaijin will literally never ever fix matchmaking so your subsonic jet will still be dumped in games with mach 2 spaceships
>>585136081I don't think that they'd be that impressed by modern service aircraft. More experimental shit like hypersonic testbeds might wow them.
Anon i just finished itI love this game so muchAre the others in the saga as good as this one?
>>585136332>And even a terminatorCorrection, it's unlockedOn no fucking planet am I expecting to unlock it for another 6 missions>>585136689I associate it with being the starter plane from 5If it helps you feel any better it's probably the one routine and uniquely loud noise in New Orleans other than unruly people of melanin
Could a single gerald r. ford carrier win world war 2 on its own
>>585136109She actively takes down Shadows by herself even on Ace difficulty when she is part of Queen flight. She doesn't fuck around.
>>585137128niggas would just go around it
>>585136692And I heard those planes were impossible to fly comfortably because fly by wire isnt there to manage attitude and altitude of>Literally only one horizontal plane of control surfaces with ww2 level tech which likely means no fucking power steering on an aircraft that requires delicate adjustments
>>585136924That's what's so frustrating about warblunder. The core of the game has the potential for so much. But they deliberately shit it up. It's still mostly just a placeholder team deathmatch fight. Battleratings are far too compressed just to make things frustrating to encourage people to try to climb to toptier or open their wallet for an easier climb. Then hillariously their april fools Nuclear Thunder event gave people a glimpse of what kind of greatness the game could have if they were to ape Nuclear Option with having a large game mode with objectives deeper than "go deathmatch LOL" and balanced teams. But then they immediately returned to shitting things up.
>>5851370435 is the closest to 8 in terms of how cinematic and melodramatic and character-driven the story is, you'll love it4 is pure arcade actionZero is very cool, but very short (though very replayable)7 ain't bad but it'll feel like a downgrade to 8, should have played 7 first
>>585136941I mean can you blame them? Everyone respects speed
>>585137043every ace combat game is kind of its own vibeyou'll like some more than others but they are almost universally very good
>>585137248Yes but these people would see the F-117 and be convinced there's a way to make it fly stable
>>585137345>7>DowngradePLSLs are fun and the shit planes not being shit means the game plays betterAlthough some people may argue the shit planes feeling like shit is better for progression (novel at first but on replay this shit is ass)
Focus targeting is already busted so if you got two or more guys communicating they already have a huge advantage throw ECM/IEWS into the mix and they shut down every game
>>585137128No. It could win every battle that it chooses to fight, but wars are about industrial output and logistics. The carrier can't be everywhere at once.
>>585137128It'd facefuck anything it wanted until it ran out of munitions. If it had nukes then probably.
>>585137503The father of the flying wing thought so too
>>585137797And he was right
>>585137848No. The designs aren't stable. We need a computer to constantly tard-wrangle the control surfaces to keep the birds in the air.
>>585138020actually I can do it manual
Haha look at it go!
What does stability do? I've never known what this stat does.
>>585112586>a month for this tiny shitty patch that doesn't really fix anythingThis game is dead already
>>585138395Makes you overshoot less when you let off the stick.
RaiderSphere is rough, but playing it is making me realize that there is merit in having massive sci-fi megastructures in flight games. Having terrain below, above, and beside you to watch out for adds something no flying game based in reality can have.Armored cores are already basically fighter jets, just give them wings
>>585138395It affects how “bumpy” the plane controls are higher speed and how slow you can fly without stalling doesn’t it?
>>585138429Online being Infinity 2.0 meant it's just going to be populated by autistic die hards, which is good. Downside is that autistic gamers tend to optimize the fun out of things, and the actual fun game modes are a 10% chance random encounter.
>>585138395>Rolling You know how when you roll your plane veers off of the tight "tube" it should be rolling in? Stability>PitchIirc it's the over steer, the "response lag" is the maneuverability and the oversteer that follows is stability>YawSee pitchI THINK is how it worksJust do a minimum maneuverable 57 vs a max maneuverable and the response times and ease of getting the gun on target is fucking insane
>>585138626>Bumpy at higher speedA mechanic exaggerated to fuck in 8Retardedly punishes low speed attackers>how slow you can fly without stalling Literally its own part
I've gone back to mission 18, and killed everyone except Shadow 22. Then did him last.Went to Mission 28 again, killed all shadows with 22 last. Still not unlocking this. Not sure whats going on.
>>585138575>>585138738I see, thanks guys
>>585138901sorry dude, it's gotta be during a campaign run
>>585139286I feared that. I guess I'll do a fresh one a few months from now. Got some other games to play. I just finished my Ace S Rank run and I'm gonna done for now.
>>585138597>RaiderSphere is rough, but playing it is making me realize that there is merit in having massive sci-fi megastructures in flight games. Having terrain below, above, and beside you to watch out for adds something no flying game based in reality can have.Unrealistically dense asteroid belts are great fun too.>vid related: Navigating the dark side of a planetary ring in search of high value ore in Elite Dangerous. The third person camera view gives me a wider angle view of the results of my mineral scanner sweeps, but deprives me of the night-vision mode that my cockpit enjoys. I kinda like it though.
I'll be hosting a public emergency sortie in 5 minutes. Good luck
>>585134415>>585134556Su57 in reality is just a cargo cult plane thats worse than a Su37 in every way.>Same engines, but less aerodynamically efficent airframe to make it look stealth, so it performs worse.>Stealth appearance is just that. It lacks any advanced manufacturing or design features that makes a plane actually stealth. What little it achieves is counteracted by its fuckhuge size.>Impossible to produce any significant number of them because the monke chimpout.And yes it would be outperformed by a J20, or even a J16.
>>585137043Man, mission 30 was cheezy but I'm a sucker for that shot
>>585136138It's almost entirely a wing, why wouldn't it be carrier capable?
why didn't he eject?
>>585139616Oh shit that looks cool
>>585139759i think everyone F12'd this shot
>>585137128Yes, a single cellphone on the aircraft carrier is powerful enough to break all german encryption. You can just know where hitler is and turn him into paste.
>>585140412There were 10 Shadows around, they would've popped his chute anyway
>>585140721you'd be stupid not toit's lvdokino
>>585140721I admit it
>>585140851A matter of perspective won't you say?
>>585140412He saw S*toans kill two of his wingmen after ejecting, and there's no way getting hit by a cannon round hurts less than dying instantly in an explosion.>>585140721Damn right.
>>585117258A valid opinion. It's the wrong opinion, but valid nonetheless.
F-16 goodF-15 bad
>>585138243>chemistryFuck homework, I can understand why Tasha hated this
Silence 9's a 10 is flying past!
Why the hell does a pilot need to study chemistry in the first place?
>>585141434>Now Tasha if we combine these gases together and this amount of Sotoans in a room what is the average rate of lethal exposure?
>>585141363>let's make an F5 but more expensive
>>585141434Just in case
>>585141853>Professor, those showers were for lice, right?
>>585141434Same reason why we ask things like why pre-calculus is required for an x-ray technician.
>>585141942>The showers were indeed to get rid of unwanted pests yes.
Is everyone in the squadron offline right now? What time do you all play?
>>585141434The same reason every highschooler does.
>>585142219Sporadically, but usually around this time of day.
>>585141194This anon good>>585141083This anon bad
ace combat doesnt have enough comedy planes. we need a tiny dogfighter, like an X-31 with guns and missiles on it
>>585142987>implying the Fishbed isn't a comedy planeIt has hands, thoever.
>>585142987Last time we had a joke fighter it went mach 6 and had 4 pulse lasers like a fuckin x wing
>>585142987>a whole ass bomber that handles like a drunk brick (but still has all the guns)"make it happen
>>585142987>In simulated dogfights against F/A-18s during the VECTOR research program, the X-31 achieved a 30-to-1 kill ratio simply because it could turn inside any conventional fighter's radius at low speeds.This thing sounds fun
>>585140721I mean, yeah...
>>585142987The Hawk is a cute memeplen stuck in 5.
>>585141279It's not homework I just haven't done dimensional analysis in so long I had to use pen n paper to be sure
>>585136138>why did they design it as a carrier capable plane?I was about to say "Because it wasn't in AC3" but then remembered that in that game every plane was magically carrier capable
>hey how do I make money>oh just do mission 27>ok how about you fuck off
>Is this really the solution to the Sotoan problem Bax?
>>585142987They should bring back the x-29a
>>585143679You don't need to grind money to beat your first playthrough anon.I had enough to get 4x F-22, 4x F-35, and a ton of random parts throughout the tree
>>585143679A lot of people do mission 16. I like doing mission 23, total nugget death is fun and bombing the shit out of sotoans is great.
>>585142987CF-105 for the funny cockpit view
>>585143679>Grind this>Money thatThe fuck? Just do the medal challengesThat's like 5 playthroughs of money
>>585143679since each role medal requires its own full playthrough you'll have more than enough to 4x everything if you're being completionist about things I kinda wish they let us do them in free mission but the result would be the same
>>585142987The X-40 should deliberately detach the escape pod as an independent fighter, and then the hull section should be a loyal wingman fighter drone that works in concert with you and is issued orders like the campaign wingmen. I'm vaguely thinking about Star Trek's "Prometheus" ship that could split into three so that it could work in concert with "itself" to flank targets.
>>585142987They should add Indian aircraft for peak comedy.
>>585140412He exploded before he could, they even say so later
>>585124287AC9 is just going to be mommy Kate ordering all the kids to surrender and land or get the belt isn't it?
>>585141434To make military grade amphetamines so they can fly longer.
>>585144382Bring back PLSL but exclusively with the Bison
Watch modders add infinity flares back for that vanilla feeling of bullshit.
F-16 Vista please.
>>585144841>vanilla feeling of bullshit>me when i pressed B to win for 12 hours and i'm asked to press A for a couiple of minutes
>>585119247She smol, even compared to her cousin. Like being the short girl at the family bbq
>>585144592I wish mommy kate would give me the belt
Why is the high five emote just slapping someone
>>585112749I don't care what as, as long as we can reunite.
>>585128089You forgot some of the tattoo and the medical scars from her numerous injuries.
>>585146160How else do you react to Miggers?
>>585146236Unicorn bad but NT worse. Ban birds
i'm gonna say itthey put a bit of assassins creed in thishttps://youtu.be/ZTrqw22xzNI?t=1893and thats kinda based
>>585146468I mean I don't really care? The Typhoon is better in almost every way.
>>585146456Duress from launching off a carrier and possibly ejecting is going to be more internal injuries
>>585135059That thing was apparently complete ass to fly and could barely maneuver.
Gripen and F-15 just maxed for SASM. I want the F-15J just to grind out the Samurai title. Should probably get the F-15E at this point to round out the collection and my only other attacker is the A-10. I want an F-16 and an Su-33 as well and there's a Growler sitting at level 10 in my hangar. This is going to take a while even with squadron sharing and party searching for sorties.
>>585147139If the A-10 is your only other attacker you should max the duck before maxing the mudhen.
>>585147054That's what I'm sayingStealth and aerodynamic geometry are typically at complete odds with each other the su57 and sukhois planes in general are a case of "out planes should look cool first, do what they were made for second"And I kinda like that because I hate flying american in ace combat
Tasha's pink pussy
>mfw AC0 isn't a separate game yet and i can't play it on my shitty laptopI-I guess I'll figure out how to emulate 3.
>>585147380I love Flankers but modern Sukhoi is fucking retarded. It took them 20 years to go to the radar store, buy a ground radar, and put it on a Flanker.The F-15E was a similar concept and that only took 3 years.
>>585126481The documentary style of Zero was so kino. Idc that the backgrounds where cheap greenscreens, it had incredible charm
>>585147701What kind of steam auth does it want?You could try copying over the ACZ files to your laptop, adding it to steam as a non steam game, and running it that way.If it only checks for AC8 ownership on bootup(and that's tied to your account) then it should work just fine.
>>585147976Hmmm. Interesting.I really just don't want to download 200GB. I guess I'll see if I can't copy and paste when I get home, but PA is supposed to provide a separate steam listing "eventually".
https://youtu.be/WslnyfNl_4oAesthetic Fuscus Kulbit with no HUD.
Why does the Flanker's nose point a little downward, with that slight arch on the ventral side just forward of the intakes?
Is we getting separate Steam launchable Zero with the patchAchievements would be nice but I'm not holding my breath
>>585147386
>>585147701Didn't people pull out zero so it was playable separately like day one? It probably doesn't even have any steam drm.
Since "the happening" with /wtg/ i've been there to check whats upI love you /aceg/ anons. Seeing how bad is out there truly makes me appreciate you.Go check it out, but don't post there please.
>>585148115If your PC and laptop are on the same network and in the some workgroup(or domain but I doubt you have that set up) you can just use Windows default smb admin shares to copy only the ACZ folder to your laptop. I just tried it and it works.Even if you rename your Ace Combat 8 game folder(the one where all the content is) you can still launch Zero by just running the executable while Steam is open. It will open the menu asking you whether you want to play AC8 or ACZ so that's a workaround if you don't want a 136 gig AC8 install just to play ACZ.
>>585146857>Baxter complains about his back because its a common injury for Navy pilots after one too many catapults or arresting maneuversSo why the arm brace on Kate? Her bio only states many injuries and mental strain, it never gets specific and she doesn't bitch about her back at all.
>>585148526Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of doing, I'm just not near my main PC atm.
>>585148124I'm guessing when I say this, but probably for the same reasons the concorde's nose points down during landingSo you can visually land the damn plane
>>585148579You might also need the Engine and EasyAntiCheat folder, but those are like 100mb combined so it's not a problem. And you'd have to follow Steam's folder structure.
>search for scramble party>find oneneat>oopsie error loading kicking you back to main menu :)FUCK OFF
>>585148551>Why the arm braceHave you seen top gun maverick?When launching from a catapult you brace with your arm so you don't smash face first into the canopyThat perfectly explains why her arm/clavicle region needs structural support is if she needs to carrier take off and land alot
I learned something nice todayGo into training select the wingman command oneTasha & Noise will be flying whatever you had them flying in the last mission you played. Baxter will default to his Hornet if he wasn't in the mission you played last.M28>Group of B-1's heading to island>I get behind them and start taking them out one by one>First one I shot down turns the after burners on in an attempt to ram the B-1 in front of it>I already shot that B-1 down before the last one can hit it>first B-1 zooms by me at high speed while crashing as it no longer has anything to crash intoThis new crash system they got is full of laughsAlso>ESM from Tasha & AWACS is active >Locked onto Shadow 26 fire a full set of 4aam's>Get cutscene of 22 being shot down>Wut??LAMO>Wasn't even aiming for him he just died like a mook when I wasn't even paying him attention to one of my extra missiles being fired.Still can't understand why the are nerfing the flares on Shadow 22's team these guys are easy I mean Indigo & Gelb team put up a far better fight and they are meant to be easy as they were early/mid game bosses.
Would you WSO?
>>585147701Just pirate it lol. It's been on torrents since ac8 came out.
>>585148831Why Scramble, specifically? Zoll? Fun?
>>585148551>she doesn't bitch about her back at allIt's not in her natureShe's the flight lead and an ice manMorale will jeopardize the missionAnd it's shown she's willing to lie to maintain morale (it's up to wings to prove to the lcacs that she isn't a liar)
>>585148967because scramble and emergency sortie are the only fun modes?
>>585148912I'd handle take off, refueling, rearming, awacs support, flight lead, wing man, And XO all at the same time if I could
GET IN CLOSE FOR GUNS THEN
>>585148912and i would smell the seat after our 8 hours flight
>>585148504Can I get a QRD?
>>585148121I don't care how many people they filtered, the Ladons are fucking cool.
>>585148902>Still can't understand why the are nerfing the flares on Shadow 22's teamBecause alot of people complained/are complainingYes its that bad that we live in a weak society that gets pandered to
>>585148912Nah.After the war is over I wanna take up doing joint acrobatics with Tasha.
>>585149208Who do you think is less reasonable>People who don't engage in game mechanics and complain that the game doesn't workOr>People who have beaten the game and have tips on how to beat the game
>>585149116Ngl I find Warfare a lot more fun than Scramble.
>>585149395kinda wish they had a cooler looking nose section but yeah, agreed
>>585148121These are the Ladons?People were having trouble with these?Waow.
>>585149409>Yes its that bad that we live in a weak society that gets pandered toI hate it too. The same shit happened in helldivers>new cyborg faction>they have a "vox engine" superheavy unit>it's kicking our asses and our usually favored tactics aren't effective vs it.>/hdg/ adopts our tactics and just starts winning>great fun all around>The developers hear community feedback>Vox engines made toothless. They have half their health now. Only 3 of them can spawn simultaneously
>>585149705Yea, shitters were seething even ITT
>>585149752I've never seen a community so collectively fucking shit at their game. HD2 is just fucking embarrassing.
>>585149752Forumdads are a plague for any online focused detail oriented game. They always demand stupid shit be added, like space legs for Elite: Dangerous, and constantly complain about the slightest inconvenience because they have to work and got a female to shit out their spawn.
>>585149386
>>585149647It's flareslop
>>585149752Don't forget the 1st boss in armored core 6 and the last boss in elden ring
>>585150265Oh, I thought something happened with the devs or forum mods or something. I expected happening = someone outed as leaker or pedo or something.
>>585149395>>585149705It's like Armored Core 6 people aren't shooting hard enough. Guns going switching between missiles squad focused they're down in a few cycles.
>revered as the greatest pilot Sotoa has ever had>has one of the most advanced planes on Strangereal>still a shittier pilot than her subordinate TopkeSotoa is such a larp
>>585149752>Playing helldiver's>We're at the extract>120mm HE called>We all die>Respawn>Die again because it's still bombarding >Sry I'm learningI've never had the inkling to do such a retarded move and Im glad PlayStation moving forward is keeping its retarded playerbase to itself
>>585149752>hurr durr lets make it so you can't take cover on the take cover factioni bet you defended warstriders having no weakspots, as well.
haven't tried online yet.What did they mean by "account creation"? Do Steam users have to create/sign in on something?
>>585149789>Bro I did everything I could it literally too everything I had and I couldn't down a single oneLmao good news is they don't have to fucking bitch any more about it I guess
>>585150678Topkek never doubted his actions. She kinda did.
>>585150793No.
>>585150793You just pick a username.
>>585150793You make a 3D-pilot avatar that does nothing but stand around in a parking lot while you wait in matchmaking queues.
>>585150784Nta but AH consistently implementing shit without blatant user testing is consistently the source of bugs, unfun shit, and instantly nerfed shitFfs thru nerfed the HMG fire rate the day it came out and allowed it to have a retardedly negatively offset scope for like 2 fucking months
>>585149789ladons are easy, they're just a terrible fight>DOOOOD JUST FLY TO THE PARTS WHERE THEY SLOW DOWN AND DPSboring scripted doodoo
>>585150942She never didFinding her circumstances lamentable is one thing but she chose honor and death over compromise You have to respect that even if you don't like it
>>585150235not everyone plays video games for 12 hours a day and they don't want to be "inconvenienced" in their pixel toysdifficulty and challenge are great, some of you retards think tedious = difficult because you hate being awake and are simply looking for mindless things to fill gaps
I kinda wish Tewy wasn't "super ace pilot with an injury" but instead a strategic expert at logistics and training and such. Having two enemy ace pilots cheapens both a little.
>Replaying AC8 as part of ace run>Start noticing things I missed on earlier playthroughsI really need to actively start paying attention to the little details. Also holy hell it is implied Kate gave the kids and Rex a severe talking to after mission 6
>>585151229>heh, yeah, this levels super easy because I read a guide and watched someone else play it, basipally i'm a geniussilence, cuckold
>>585151581literally after the first pass you can tell they're faster than you and you pull lead pursuit. it's literally flying a jet 101, the fact you think you need a guide to do that says more about yourself than anything lol
>>585151229>Be 1944>Tojos gonna come diving down on our fleet>We should pounce on them by loitering high and waiting for them to be vulnerable, a fucking strat invented by the red fucking BaronIt's literally the only mission in ace combat that forces the player to use an actual conventional strategy
>intercepting extremely fast bombers requires...le intercepting?!>AAAAIIIIIEEEEEE DD SAVE MEEEEEE
>>585151468Shut the fuck up, using your guns on shadow 22 in no way requires playing the game for 12 hours a day. This is the formudad mentality of "everyone better than me must just be completely dedicating their lives to the game".Maybe you're just fucking shit.
>>585151567there are a lot of comms lines you're going to miss on real difficulties since they don't get subbedRetaking of Theve II has some good ones that I only noticed when doing medal clearing
>>585151468Yeah, you know what you can do if you feel that way? Go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure, instead of demanding the same ease of mechanics that HKIA provides in a multiplayer game where challenge is the entire point.
>>585151905or I just let the internet cry at the developers until they change it, and then come here and farm salt and seethe from neckbeard virgins for more entertainment. works well thus far
>>585151545Ah yes my big problem with ace.combat is when theres too many aces
>>585151710Silence.
>>585151809I think the problem is that the Ladons come out of nowhere from a gameplay mechanic perspective. All bombers, and even fighters, are fairly easy to catch up to and suddenly you're faced with a bomber you can barely catch up to even when they slow down.The fix to this for me would be to have like, I dunno, an enemy Nighthawk, Valkyrie, or Tu-160 as an intermediate step. Teach the player "here is a really fast bomber that requires interception skills". Not doing that creates this jump in difficulty.
>>585151752I've never really tried but is it possible to just tag along with Baker and get some damage done early before the first pass? Or do they start the dive too quickly for that.
Wait, people actually struggled with the Ladons?
Do squadmates kills increase your score?
>>585152128>Not doing that creates this jump in difficulty.This is not a problem.
>>585152239yep
>>585151991>merely pretending :^)
Why the fuck are people acting like being against the 22 flare nerf makes them tough?That change has 0 bearing on anybodies ability to get Ace S on the mission. Bo hoo now gamer dads can get A rank on Pilot instead of C. Who fucking cares.
>>585152138you can damage their systems at any point but they're unkillable until they blow up the first ship
>>585152332I swear I saw the score not increase after Kate got a kill right in front of me, she wasn't part of Joker squadron at that point however
>>585152346what part of that is pretend? it's exactly how reality has played out time and time again
>>585151468You'd think that after firing the missiles at him for the 20th time you'd notice that he does a high G turn>Which follows the same rules as the player. Burning speed>He then proceeds to float in place so you you can shoot at himBut no lol rather than adapt and show some fucking intelligence you'd rather be upset your missile missed for the 30th time and argue it does "nothing" when in fact it does do something, and that's trigger the shadows into doing something retarded
>>585152375Not tough We just like suffering
>>585152553i actually killed 22 with a missile. i think the nerf was lame and they should make 22 even harder
>>585151468NTA, but I still play Elite. The forum dad had the most retarded shit takes but would bless each developer decision as if it were the sacred word of God. They want "space legs" to walk around their ship but can't articulate the mechanics a features that it would add to the game. They wanted long delivery timers when shipping ship modules between the dozens of assorted stations that we might have ships and modules stored at for their immersion. This problem was only rectified by the addition of fleet carriers where we could consolidate our assorted piles of stuff. The forum dads were VEHEMENTLY against fleet carriers because they wanted to be useless tiny cogs in the machine, and then they LOVED the idea of fleet carriers the moment fdev added it.Player colonization was another category where the dads were schizophrenic. They didn't want players building infrastructure in the galaxy because we were supposed to be too small to matter. Then FDEV added it and they changed their tune to applaud it. But colonization is shit. It's grindy, serves no real purpose, only barely turns a profit in the most miserly technical definition of the term. Seriously in a vacuum building materials make a "profit" over galactic average standard prices, but cost of tritium to shuttle goods to the construction site dwarfs YEARS worth of projected passive income from the colony taxes.They're lucky that the game is comfy and relaxing in a eurotruck simulator kind of way. The devs and community are ass.
Gotta say, the ending hopeful message really dies if you know what happens in 10 years, even if the corporate war doesn't happen all these people are still going to live under the corpo-serfdom of GR.Maybe baxter was one of the lucky ones.
>>585152385Bleh, bummer. I should play around with the foxhound on that mission, it probably can't keep pace but it's fun to chase.
>>585152375>hurr durr I'm a retard you should cater the game to mecrash into a mountain
>>585152878I kept up reasonably well with a Typhoon.
>>585152128You literally need to tail the podarges and manage your speed vs the land battleship>At no point do they do this specific challengeIt's here so fucking learn it, it's literally the same fundies as the podargesThese same fucking skills and fundies are used for the god damn sub at the end, as well as tewy and shadow 22 and the celaeldonSpeed management and using guns where your missiles fail is literally presented at you in progressively different more demanding challenges all game>At no point am I asked to do this Is such a shit excuse when the game is inherently simpleYou go faster, slower, and you shoot stuffHell the fucking wingmen give you hints
>>585152878Mig-31 worked well for me, the missiles it gets are long range and high damage
>>585148912>Tattoo>Thousand cock stare>PTSD from getting her entire squad killedNah, I'll take the flying Hapa or the Harrier (based) pilot.
>>585152843Strangereal needs a Calamitous reset
>>585152375People who cheevo hunt and ask the game to be easier just harm people who play to enjoy or be engagedAnd all so you can say you platinum'd the gameIt's vapid and rewards retardation
belka will rise again
>>585152926The change has 0 effect on how I played the game. Why does it make you seethe so much?
>>585152128You make it sound like you need to bring an F-15 or MiG-31 with all speed parts for every little edge that's never the case they slow down on turns and during their attack runs
>>585150678To be fair her brain was literally melting during the fight
>>585153087O R A N G E
>>585152940>>585153067I did in the hornet and raptor and an eagle for the token attacker clear but I have a feeling I'll replay this mission a bunch since it's cool.
>>585152926The fact that anon values S rank and cheevos over the inherent demands of the gameplay should tell you everything you need to know about his third world ass
>>585152385You can't do enough damage to shoot them down before that anyway.
>>585152878I took them down in an Su-33. It wasn't hard, but it was the most boring and obnoxious fight in the game. Somehow the stupid radar canyon run mission that that felt like it was stolen from a GTA online heist prep mission was more exciting.
>>585153130Anyone who cheevo hunts is killing Shadows with SASMs or guns. Anyone who has to rely on them eventually running out of flares isn't finishing that mission fast enough to get S.
>>585152843I'm convinced the Flying Moles are some of the first to join UPEO with how vehemently opposed they were to Enso. Those buddies were all for protecting their borders against enemies, foreign or corporate.
>>585153439nta but idk why you're pretending like S ranking and medal hunting aren't core AC gameplay. if you didn't S rank every mission in some games you literally missed out on a lot of content
Physics and dogfighting in AC7's multiplayer were a trillion times better compared to ACO, and I miss putting my own liveries in game.
>>585153207>The game being made less demandingBecause people refuse to improve doesn't effect you at allYeah okay eggs costing more doesn't mean I'm cmgoing to invent a new way to eat the egg, that doesn't mean I have to be happy that eggs cost more
>>585153439>inherent demands of the gameplayAre very much tied to your goal rank and difficulty. Do you even play ace combat?
>>585152128>Valkyrie You want a [what] before you fight the ladons?
>>585152878It's just a DPS check mission, if you're not good at dealing damage fast enough with your current loadout you fail. Simple as. A flight of starter F-18Cs can clear that mission with no custom parts, speed/maneuverability helps extend their vulnerability windows but it's not necessary so long as you don't bring something stupidly slow.
>>585153894Niggers will bring an a-10 on a mission that's very obviopusly going to be a2a oriented and then blame the game anyway, there's no point in arguing about it.
>>585153568Okay? And if someone has a day job and uses that as a cope for why they can't find the time to learn to play the game why should they be rewarded for clearing challenges by... Bitching at PA to make them beatable at that IQ?
>>585153857Imagine the "wait, those aren't XB-70s" reveal after having fought an actual XB-70 earlier on in the campaign though
>>585153660>muh egg pricesWhat the fuck are you on about?Lowering the skill floor does not lower the skill ceiling.
>>585153515QAAM and mssl plus guns is enough but did you try rockets I found them harder to aim they're not that big from the rear chase angle
Do you feel hope?I feel hope
>>585153568>>585153791And literally nerfing the challenge out of a fight is a bad precedent moving forwardIt sets a precedent up for missing gameplay
>>585153990Every mission is a2a oriented.
>>585154259kek
>>585154072>why should they be rewarded for clearing challenges by... Bitching at PA to make them beatable at that IQ?Why do you make things up to get angry at anon? That's no way to live.
>>585154259I have hope I can best serve shareholders
>>585154205As the ladons and shadow22 have shown there's a very obvious skill floorIt's why people like nioh2 so much is how high the floor is
>>585154259>I go, you stay>Suuuuperrrrmaaaaan
>>585140721Are those XFA-27s
>>585153894it's not hard and the ending gives you plenty of time to finish if you missed the quick kill on the second, I just like holding afterburner instead of loitering at their turn point is all>>585154169oooh that'd be kinda sick. Probably step on the toes of the podarge mission a bit but it's not like there's a lack of repeats in the game already.
>>585154351>Making it upOh okay so according to anon from earlier nerfing 22 is just a spontaneous act on PAs part and has nothing to do with popular demand
>>585154268I'm sorry to tell you this anon but AC8 has already set this precedent by not having hard kill walls on its canyon run and having an idiot proof tunnel run.
>>585154548>Upgrade of plane is plane with lasers and is immune to missiles but not gunsWait a sec
>>585154629The "challenge" of 22 is killing them fast enough to get S on Ace. The nerf doesn't change a thing for that challenge.>But being able to kill them at all was the challengeNot for anyone here, I should hope. Apart from that one anon who's new to the series and is currently on mission 11 or something.
>Play Joint Assault because I'm running out of Ace Combat>Immediately fall in love with HazawaI have a problemAlso this debriefing music is unbelievable
>>585154656>Ackuually anon because the game is easy they should make it easierWhat
>>585155079>Not for anyone here, I should hopeThe complaints are as consistent here as they are on Twitter, Facebook, and twitch
>>585131112I need more pictures like this
>>585155079I've seen so much bitching about Shadow 22 being LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to shoot down because he flares off every missile, presumably from people that have no idea how to use the gun.
>>585155079>Not for anyone here, I should hope.There are buddies here who thought a crab was a sun, anon.
>>585151896Yeah I am picking up a lot of stuff clearing medals myself. Makes me question what are shitposts and what aren't as for example I thought the stuff about Kate treating Coster and Tasha like kids and grounding them for misbehaving was a joke till Tasha brought up Kate legit did chew them out and stare them down like an angry mother after the previous mission.Now I am wondering if Baxter has any lines I missed about the Sotoan Solution in game that get cut due to action normally?
>>585112586I don't understand the hype for project wingman it was basically the same mission 20 times over until the last 5 missions
>>585155481But in theory here's my issue>Strategy all game is get behind plane>Shoot missileHere's topkek>Get behind plane>Shoot missile>Shoot gunThey added one layerPeople are melting down because PA had the audacity to think players weren't retarded and players failed them What the fuck is this generation of uncs or retards that finds it acceptable that a totally beatable challenge is beatable after PA nerfs it
>>585155481the problem is not the flares, it's the PSM and how it apparently gives him complete invincibility where even when he's not doing anything your missiles fire off in a straight line even if you have a locki killed them all with guns but it's just a really poor way of making the fight hard if you have to rely on simply making the player unable to hit the target with missiles
>>585155589People thought the Ace Combat franchise was dead.
>>585155137>game was made accessible to a wider audience, removing several challenges present in previous entries>this is fine>a patch makes game accessible to a wider audience without removing any of the existing challenge>gaming has fallen
>>585155589>I don't understand the hype for project wingmanBetween this and everyone suddenly coming out of their mole holes to say they played 3 and it was the best game ever idk what to tell you
>>585154990and they gave it variable wings the perfect weapon......
>>585155589i like that mission type the most so it was great fun for me
>>585155850>Game removes a barrier that is stonewalling a subset of people from beating it>No existing challenge was removedThere's 1 oxymoron, and 1 moron in this post
>>585156009Would you even call them variable wings? They work more like deployable flaps
>>585156054>No existing challenge was removedYes, since it wasnt a challenge for me to begin with. Why should I care that it is for other people?
>We're gonna have to go back to stupid dogshit like Mihaly's scripted sections because retards can't handle 1 (one) (single) ace in the game having even a modicum of challengeAREN'T YOU GLAD AC IS NOW MAINSTREAM, HURRAYI hope they remove expert and make standard controls the only mode, after all we can't have gamerdads with 3 jobs and having to take care of his wife's 5 children to have a bad time with the game :(Or even better, bring back the full DFM from AH so you can only play the game in a cutscene so all the twitch viewers can clap at the ebin cutscene!
>>585155589I wasn't bored for a single moment during those 20 missions
>>585152553The problem is that every dogfight in the game up until that point is just turnfighting until the AI breaks away in a straight line vulnerable to missiles. That learned behavior stops working on Topkek and the flares are the most obvious change nuggets can see.Contrast AC0 where the entire game nudges you towards jousting before the Morgan and even then it takes you out of gameplay into a cutscene so it has your full attention when it tells you that you MUST joust the Morgan.
>>585156241>emove expert and make standard controls the only modeHere's you getting upset at imaginary scenarios in your head again.
>>585156331You don't need to joust the Morgan, that's a meme.
sorry, if you used high-g turns, you didn't beat the game
>>585156241grow up
>>585156214look I'll take what I can get
Man the quality of these Joint Assault music tracks is zigzagging like crazyI know some of these are recycled from other games (lol at Electrosphere briefing music) but man, even just in Mission 2 you go from really cool to really generic just like that
>>585156490>he used flares
>>585156232>Easy game got easierAnd this is okay with you as well?
the concept of self-improvement is alien to turd world browns and reddittroons
>>585155589>it was basically fun for 20 missions until the bossare you retarded or somethin
>>585156591Joint Assault is a bit of a roller coaster of quality all around. At least you'll get to understand the Sulejmani experience soon.
>>585155589>Guns very satisfying to use vs peashooter that even has bad SFX in AC7>PC game, with full blown custom HOTAS support>VR support for the entire game>Superplane bosses felt more threatening and had more attacks than the ones in AC7/8>Soundtrack is great>Multiple special weapons>AOA module is just more fun than PSM>Mercenary difficulty has extra / altered enemy spawns>Baseline it's a bit harder than ace difficulty 7+8, partly because there's no checkpoints>Modifiers like double enemy spawns, double damage, adding random special weapons including railguns to every enemy vehicle>Less mission variety is kind of a double edged sword because it means no gimmick mission AIDS like the A-6E stealth missionI'll give PA a point because I like how flares work in 8 better than PW but like
>>585156624>easy game still easyThats more the reality. I'd rather it was more difficult, but Shadow 22 flare count has nothing to do with that so I don't seethe at the patch notes. Instead I bring up the lack of canyon and tunnel runs in 8 whenever I can to remind people what could've been.
>>585156804The boss was fun too, I was actually sweating on mercenary difficulty run
>if other people are allowed to beat the game I beat then that makes the game bad and my enjoyment of it is now ruined :((((I thought we were a comfy general but apparently we've been infected by the Fromdrone virus.
>>585156331>The problem is that every dogfight in the game up until that point is just turnfighting until the AI breaks away in a straight line vulnerable to missileWhy is that a problemYou have two attack options at any given moment and that's msl/SPW and gunHow the fuck do you shoot your 20th missile and not take a hint that there's only so many other things you can try in ace combat
>>585156591It's the only ace combat with an american composer (Inon Zur), most of his tracks are forgettable, obviously the game has some amazing new ones too.
>>585156331>Is what why Gelb 1 killed me with a 180 degree missile launch for trying to slot him?
>>585155589>great gameplay>great music>great story>great vibes>cute WSOidk what more you want
>>585157305Wth Inon Zur did Assault Horizon?I will now play your game, I love his work.
>>585157203The nerf is for the two highest difficulties, what is the issue of lowering the difficulty if you're having issues?
>>585157080 Not saying seethe at the patch notesI'm saying unc "I have a life" gamers are gonna feel "seen" and pull a balteus and get a mechanically solid mechanic get nerfed for the most pathetic reason imaginable>I can't learnNever reward that kind of behavior it makes for weak people
>>585113607I choose to believe these mad fucks tried to kill themselves with alcohol poisoning in a celebration but even that didn't work, they just ended up drinking Usea dry.
Mission 18 Mihaly is one of the best bossfights in the series but no one's ready for conversation because his earlier enocunters leave such a bad impression. The only good thing about Topkek is that you can vaporize him with the Nightmare's railgun before the fighr even starts.
>>585157305I like how you described most people's opinion of the dragons dogma ost although personally I like all of it
>>585157396>great musicI don't get this. It has like 2 good tracks.>great storyIt's just 0 but the bad guys succeed in V2ing the earth at the end. Crimson 1 chimping out is the only notable part of the story.
>>585157480he's talking about Joint AssaultAssault Horizon was scored by the usual AC crew (and its soundtrack is arguably the best part about it)
>>585157103Crimson 1 is pure lvdokino. >when the storm comes for you...>remember me
>>585157704>I don't get this. It has like 2 good tracks.agreedfrontline 59 is chock full of bangers thoughthe main theme has been living rent free in my head for the past six months
>>585155589Was pretty hype at the time. Year or two after 7 restored all hope, was supposedly subject to delays but China Virus accelerated the development so it borderline shadow dropped
>>585157704Its a great war story of small scale civil war turning into a full scale intercontinental war, not sure what more you want out of a fighter pilot game
Finally can join the threads, beat the game on Elite yesterday, 10/10 no notes. Im far from being good or even a hardcore Ace Combat enthusiast, and i found Topkek to be hard because Im not that good with the guns but I found a strategy thats slightly less shit than get behind enemy -> shoot missile and got him eventually. People say the Ladons were hard but I found them to be normal, a decent challenge sure but nowhere near difficult, I just listened to what was being said on the radio and that was enough of a clue on how to beat them.So I dont get the patch, maybe they couldve just made the tweak to easier difficulties, but Im glad I beat the game before the update. Can I stop steam from updating my game? Id like to do an Ace difficulty run somedayPost Kates
>>585157203>People are upset a boss In a game with 2 attacks asks you to use both attacks and has now been nerfed>Wtf fromdronesDid you forget both radahns got nerfed and balteus got nerfed? Fromsoft caters to babies tooDoesn't make it right
>>585157512Call me when that happens and I'll seethe with you, but I couldn't care less if 22 gets infinite flares or 20.
>>585157704Retard
>>585157754crimson's dialogue in that final fight was so lame. which i guess was the point since he was always just a whiny faggot, but people still seem to actually like him as an antagonist which baffles me
>>585157747Ah alright, I'll play that too then thanks for opening my eyes anon.
>>585158212That's because you're an autistic retard.
Predictable.
We need a quickchat to tell people to stop fucking taking the Attacker's ground targets holy shit I'm triggered so hard right now
>>585158212If you insert Pixy's dialogue in as if he is the player character responding to Crimson 1 its mad how well it lines up.
>>585157648We've been saying this literally since day 1. An entire squad of Topkek would lose to Mihaly, and it wouldn't even be close.
>>585158273Joint Assault is kind of the game you play after finishing X and wanting more and it's good enough at that.but yeah Assault Horizon's soundtrack is great, lots of good stuff in there even if they did commit the horrible sin of introducing stealth radar bubble mechanics and dogfight mode.
>>585158212It's fine to like an antagonist that's just an autistic arrogant dickhead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m1xGy0p2_0>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m1xGy0p2_0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m1xGy0p2_0>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m1xGy0p2_0
>>585158212Hey I found Diplomat
>>585157951>I just listened to what was being said on the radioOne defining trait of people who complain is they go all tunnel vision and don't listen to any chatter or smash into the ground They totally paid attention and did everything right though trust them bro
>>585157648Any bossfight with invincibility frames is dogshit by default
For plane blueprints do I have to buy all I need in the store or what? I barely have any of the planes I have.
>>585157754
>>585158713yeah they're 1k a pop in the store
>>585158379
>>585158212The final antagonist of AC6 was a dork but it's honestly the only cool development I've ever seen from fromsoft
>>585158713Yea, or just pray to whatever foul god you believe in that you get constant scrambles that have the planes you want to upgrade, as that's the only other way to gain them.
>Boss calls you predictable>Predicts that you'll beat him>Shoots himselfAny such games?
>>585157212Because the game doesn't teach nuggets to try things. The game teaches nuggets to missile.They've been using a hammer the entire time and don't understand that the problem isn't a nail.
>>585158762It's so funny. You really can't blame the guy for getting mad and flipping over the fucking table. You fuck him over at every turn and even bitch ass Diplomat bullies him over the radio.
Shame PA didn't ape Project Wingman by adding cute WSOs for AC8
>>585157679Zur can make good stuff in Fantasy, his Dragon age work is pretty good, and I like his dragon's dogma work, he completely sucks at anything modern tho.
>>585157648I didn't hate First Contact, but yeah I can mostly agree with that. I think I just like his voice acting a lot more than Toprek's which does a lot of heavy lifting. Lost Kingdom is a pretty short mission which also helps.
For me, its the Eminent Domain
>>585159152>zumwalt forma battleshipcringekino
For me it's Cold War with its Gundam music.
>>585159092Mihaly is also just cooler than Topkek.
>>585158212A straight up evil antagonist going all out on you for the finale is great. Topkek had a similar dynamic going for him except he dies like a bitch after a fight where you genocide the entire Sotoan Air Force so it doesn't stand out.
>>585158493What's the best insult in quick chat in absence of real in match messaging and with the heavy censorship in lobby
>>585158831I enjoy it when in the post mission flight recorder it shows me doing a lot of big loop de loops and cross crosses and me perfectly meshing with enemy plane flight paths with minimal passes and zero overshootsI cant imagine doing a bunch of hard linear zig zags with zero leads, and multiple desperate short range passes
>>585156523>an actual fucking birdHonestly I like this new design A LOT.
>>585159024I wish they aped Wingman for Lux Lunae.>mission 3 Lux Lunae fight is actually optional, if you say yes a return line spawns for you to run away>if you say no they are scaled difficulty wise for like mission 20+ so good luck on first playthroughGranted people would just refuse to run and checkpoint spam into them until they win. Part of what makes Crimson work in mission 6 is that PW has no checkpoints so you have to redo the entire mission if you ego fight them and die.
>>585158713Yes they're only random drops from Scrambles. If you really really want to penny pinch just remember five missions = five blueprints challenge with every plane.
What a nice city, I sure hope it acts as a central hub of growth and prosperity for the burgeoning Cascadian Republic
>>585159329Go dance with the angels mister!
>>585159473AC9 definitely needs some branching missions using the Yes-No mechanic, as you just said.Like sometimes you can stay and fight but the consequence is a character dies if you're not fast enough, but also you can decide to run and race to a return line and that will save the character.
>>585159329i like using "i don't understand"i always do it if i see anyone die to arsenal bird's helioses
>>585157951>Post Kates
>>585159473Plus the feeling you get on a subsequent playthrough where you fight them off is fucking awesome.
I unlocked the heart sticker so I drop those in chat when people get someone we're focus targeting <3
>>585159152If you put a guidance package on a 8+ inch shell, would that make it a viable modern weapon? Or literally just put a Paveway / JDAM / SDB in a sabot and shoot it out a gun?
>>585157951
>>585157704Base game OST is generally good, but largely not as impactful or memorable. I still use a lot of the tracks as background for other games. It also succeeds in having a VERY nice leitmotif as well (Calamity -> Presida -> Kings)>Peacekeeper I>Midnight Light>Magma Carta>Daedalus>Calamity>Presida>Kings
>>585159695>Arm bandIt's a fucking wrist support
>>585157951>Post Kates?
>>585159439it's super cool, yeah. I do wish they borrowed more from the blackbird design-wise but it's a souped up valkyrie and that's great. Kinda hate the land battleships by comparison, but it's hard to like small+slow targets that just shit out railguns and respawn their AA weapons.
>>585159473>Wingman>When AC5 already did this concept with 8492 firsttourists are retarded
>>585159910I thought king's court was pretty good as well
>>585159605>>585159706Wingman has some hidden ones like "do not cross this big red line on the map" in one of the early missions which spawns a big naval fleet and the lategame F-15s with lategame AI on them. I think I read somewhere they spawn with merc diff AI no matter what difficulty you're playing.No story consequences to that though, just that you're probably going to die if it's your first playthrough or you're rusty on these games.
Is Stonehenge used in the game? I saw it in one of the cutscenes and I was expecting the last mission to take place there but nothing instead.
>>585159024Felt they didn't want to be seen copying PW hence the lack of WSO. That said would have been a fun one off mission where someone like Tasha was forced to be your WSO. Kate would have worked as well but I feel that Tasha would been a more entertaining brat about it.
>>585158212It's great with how much of an asshole he becomes up to the final fight, that it makes it cathartic to put him down once and for all.
>>585159152for me? THIS IS THE NAIAD
>>585157951Based anon that can rotate a 3D apple in his headThere's not many of us left
Man that one comic wasn't kidding about the Orgoi maneuvers, JesusRigel squadron is so funny just being honest and leaving like thatSulejmani is really going to lecture me later about things other than money, huh
>>585160147No. All we get is a comment about Baxter questioning whether Sotoans are human out of it.
>>585159803what is this? i love it
>>585160242He does love his oreos
Please tell me which angles I'm supposed to attack Alicorn's core, and Arsenal Birb's everything-after-the-propellers, thanks in advance
>>585160147It got blasted twice now it's pretty done for, was just the landship crew going on a roadtrip so they could pull a "my ancestor :)" They made up for it by including other locations on the continent from old games
Honestly it's kinda funny how easy it is to clock trannies online.
>>585160147Whats the lore on yellow bits on the tips of the wings? Why do all two tone skins online have this layout?
>>585160242Bro Suleimanji is probably the dumbest thing plotwise and second dumbest (after dfm) gameplaywise in the entire franchise. You are in for a treat, funni werewolf flying guitar man of the schizo ramblings
>>585160147No, the only reason to go there was to kill the land battleship but we got taken out by those Enso refueling drones, and by the time we were back with the Endurance the land battleship had moved on to the space elevator.What was Sotoa doing at Stonehenge anyway? Presumably they succeeded since our strike got cancelled ... DLC with Sotoan Torres operating a fully repaired Stonehenge?
>>585160154I doubt they give a shit about an indie game knockoff of 0, and they did essentially use Baxter as a WSO during the A-6 radar mission.
>>585160363>AlicornHead on>BirbBeneath
>>585160363>Alicorn's coreFrom the front of the sub>Arsenal Birb JointFrom behind. Sometimes the freely rotating main propellers will block your shots. Just keep firing>Arsenal Birb Hook and CoreFrom below. Watch out for the debris when the hooks are destroyed
>>585159941Fighting Enso's prototype YF-12A1 in the DLC
>>585160147The sotoans go to Stonehenge with their land battleship to retro-engineer the belkan technology that made the cannons, so they could use their auto-targeting systems and build copies on megafloat Fatsia
Do you lose the xp when your plane is level locked or do you get it back when you remove the level cap?
>>585160403Saw wingsofsneed the other dayFor me it's the guys who aura farm alone at the other side of the big hangar by the edge of the runway
>>585160335Mod for Nuclear Option. It's a Destrier-class battleship, basically a Nelson if had Phalanx, RIM-116s, a hundred Harpoons, and was twice as fast
>>585160641>too fast, cant be locked on>awacs paints the path it will follow>you have to blind fire missles into that path to make it crash into themWould be an original fight
>I will bury you so completelyhow do you bury someone only half completely, or 70% completely, or anything other than full completely?
>crossing this line is a BIG deal because you enter satellite coverage>its actually not a big deal and you do it multiple times no problem
>>585160894Bury them vertically but only up to their waistIt's pretty easy
>>585160394>>585160449I was thinking something along the lines of Enso secretly rebuilding it and using doctored images to hide their activites. I was so focused on the stonehenge, that I forgot they teased the submarine earlier too.
>>585160858Oh...i don't love it anymoreThe game is rad but the controls of NO are just bad...
>>585160927Did you miss the part where a destroyer and thousands of living fish get vaporized in a second
>>585157949I mean I enjoyed it, but its clear they took a lot of story beats from 0. Even has the mid campaign detonation of nukes/orange nukes. They tried to do a Pixy thing with Crimson 1, but he just comes off more as a raging gamer than an actual threat.
>>585161107>than an actual threatdude he wiped out cascadia single-handedly
>>585160894the one that really gets me is the line about the earth turning a thousand times before you're dug up3 years to find a body isn't that bad considering that few hundred square miles is a lava-infused hell zone
>>585160242Sulejmani's wild ride is something you get to experience only once for the first time>>585160641give it to me, I have a need for speed
>>585157704ThisPW is a decent game but let's not act like i can hold a candle to AC. It's Tom Clancy's HAWX without ubisoft
>>585161107Honestly they knew crimson 1 was lame, that's why diplomat, the voice of reason, tells him to fuck off. He is inly a threat because someone gave him access to bootleg superplanes and legally distinct nukes
>>585161078And what does that have to do with me or my squadron
>>585161504>bro surviving ww1 was not that hard lmao, no man's land wasn't that big of a deal >bro there were 37 millions casualties>and what does that have to do with me?what
>civvies are going home>but here's tasha in the next missionwhat'd i miss
Needs Yinshi Valley back online. Or a city with big skyscrapers. Some megastructures you can dance around in PVP to keep things interesting, Space Elevator is right there why not in the Warfare rotation?
>>585161885Tasha is cute, did this help?
>>585161885Tasha decided to stay. That's it.
>>585159954I'm a girl believer that most PW fans are people that haven't played Ace Combat and only though PW because it was cheaper than 7 and they couldn't figure out how to emulate 0
>>585161885She realized she needs to be with her adoptive family and went to the XO and asked to stay and fight
>>585161885her dad (yuktobanian observer) pulled his strings to get her to come back (she wanted to)
>>585160894This boss fight was wasted on crimson 1
>>585162290nah crimson was cringekinolove his maniacal laugh, the man is a true ace unlike sotoan larpers
>incoming nerfsFuck I need to stop playing this retarded Online and get around to doing my Ace S ranks / no damage / ace skins / etc
>>585162016*FirmWhy the fuck did it autocorrect to girl
KOUSEKI FUCKING BIJOU BEAT THE LADONS PRE NERFAND YOU CAN'TLMAOOOOOOOO
I need my plane to scream to me more. There needs to be missile warnings, railgun warnings, over G, terrain and it calling me a retard.
>>585162507on what difficulty nigger
>>585162446No idea firmfriend
>>585162589She plays on pilot, but with expert controls.
>>585162415>Playing online for any amount of timeI can't fathom that level of difficulty
>eceleb faggotry againyawn
>>585159954Strigon in the first mission of 6 too. I was expecting 8 to do something like that on the HSCA mission with some additional optional target somewhere deeper in the map forcing you to dodge railguns for a bit instead of just dipping for free immediately.
>>585162573We need a sentient plane with a cute voice>Pilot losing consciousness, deploying stimulants>Missile incoming...just kidding!
>>585162645
>>585162798to be honest there was another jap vtuber that did elite + expert and fucking balledbut i think she's just a closeted ac fan and didn't tell it to anyone.Her gameplay was just too good
>>585162507Why would I care what some sloptuber has done on baby settings, ace of aces pre nerf or you didn't beat the game
>>585163070I like this kind of elitism
>>585154489x40 nightmares
>>585163070you need to get all the medals too specifically because I want to know you did that A-6 mission at least four times
>>585163236>Eurotrash but not French or spanishYou're alright cazzo
>>585161885Tasha is a glowie. You can tell this from the way she glows.
>>585163236I need to hurry. I need to get my bragging rights
>hai sbloccato tutti gli achievement
>>585163412>>585163379Italians are everywhere>>585163396Go play your ACE CAMPAIGN NOW.
>>585163070Who cares? 7 and 8 are easy even on ace. PW is harder than both and that's still way easier than the PS2 games.
>>585163070>>585163236If you beat the game after the 22 nerf, you didn't beat the game
>>585163396I wouldn't really worry about it. There's like two missions that should be any actual problem to S rank on Ace and even though one of them is 28 the flares aren't why Toprak is annoying.
>>585163396>>585163363Done, and i did it 6 times>Elite normal run>ACE + S + All campaign Medals + All aces>Strike Aircraft + No DMG>Fighters + Only guns>Multirole>ECM
>he cares about the opinions of autists online
>>585163606I haven't been playing 28 enough to figure it out since it's kind of a marathon but do the EW planes just fly wherever when they arrive? You can get the S for free if they park over you the entire time but sometimes it feels like they just move away from the fight.
>>585163561Yeah I'm on mission 22 on my Ace playthrough, all S ranks so far>>585163606I had a lot of problems getting a good rank on mission 28, I've done it deathless on my first 2 playthroughs but I always gotten a shitty rank. I think I'm just too slow.
>>585163561When's the patch? My save file got nuked and now I have to beat it on Elite and then on Ace again.
https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat8wingsoftheve/mods/116What the fuck? how?
>>585112749A fuckupatoo
>>585163836>>585163845The time bonus gives you 30,000 points, speed is definitely part of it.
>>585164000No, Anon, I'm sure you'd be a cool bird.
>>585163992Probably didn't take much to figure out, people have been able to add planes to AC7 for ages.
>>585163070>>585163236>just need a couple more aces I missed and the 25m MRP cheevo>got extremely unmotivated with online truly becoming a never ever for linux
>>585163821We all are bragging. If you aren't bragging and doing this it's probably because you didn't beat the ladons and are waiting for the nerfs>>585163845Good to hear. You're almost there, but at M22 you already beaten the real difficult S. Just don't use checkpoints if you die in the nect mission and you're done.>>585163856Patch day is on the 23rd. You have to nolife the shit out of the game. I remember what happened to you a couple of threads ago. If you manage to do it you're a legend
>Wait a month to play the game>All difficulty has been removed>Can now get the same epeen as the other anons whove busted their balls to get itLife is good
>>585164442you'd be still defeated by a >post time date
>>585163572>Project Wingman>HardPut your mask back on, you're hypoxic
>Insurance fraud plotWhy did I put off Joint Assault for so long
>>585164234>You have to nolife the shit out of the gameYeah, that's not fucking happening, I'm not taking PTO for this.
>>585164549Literally nobody that matters will remember that. People who are that autistic will find something else to get attached to by the time the next game comes out.
>>585165097gib steam account ill grind it for you
>>585165172There's hardly something more autistic than a 30 years old cheesy plane game fanbase that activates like a sleeper agent when it reads "1994XF04"
True aces have an Ace Combat Online (TM) account with a 28/09/2026 start date
>>585164996because it's the second worst game in the franchise
>>585165416Those are cod kiddies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwXvWnw7QPY tap in
>>585163992>Poor man's NosferatuWould prefer ACX and infinity planes desu
>>585164234>We all are bragging. If you aren't bragging and doing this it's probably because you didn't beat the ladons and are waiting for the nerfsNTA, but I just started my second playthrough, which will be on Ace, but I felt inclined to do 15 on free mission and beat this just to call you a fucking faggot for giving a shit about this. I did this suboptimal and it's still piss easy.
>>585165536already there brohopefully she reaches 20 today
>>585164993mission 4 on merc is ball shattering
>>585165315ACTIVATION PHRASE:ROUND TABLEBLUE DOVELIGHTHOUSEELECTROSPHERE
>>585163992Probably just a port of the AC7 mod.YF-12 when.
How do i break the Ladons' wings?
>>585163992
>>585165728It is piss easy, and yet 90% of playerbase and a couple anons here bitched about it so much that the devs will nerf it in 2 daysThat's the point
>>585165470True, but Hazawa is so cute
>>585166243Is Joint Assault the second worst game in the franchise? Yes. Is it a bad game? Kind of. Is it still a decent time? Absolutely.
>>585165809Uphill, every way? I cleared it with the Frogfoot on Mercenary. Just take MLAGs and ASM and it's not that hard.
Whats the best way to play joint assault or assault horizon?
>>585166719emulator and pc-enhanced edition (pirated or GOG iirc)
>>585166719ppsspp and cracked on PC respectively
>>585166865>>585166873thanks bros
I just realized the AC7 motif plays for mission 16 on replay
AC9 when?
>>585167027
>>585167027It's okay. Just look ahead and think of the rabbits.
>>585127846her castle is in Belka __________
>>585166719You also want to grab Ostrich's HD texture mod for Joint Assault, it's pretty good
New thread when?
>Varcolac squadron has AOA limiters instead of just PSMThis is some nonsense
>Man this mission over London is pretty cool, the music is great, I--WHAT DO YOU MEAN SPIRIDUS CAN STAND UP
>>585168635just wait until the giant cannon starts breakdancing
>give prowler parts>can actually yaw worth a shitwtf mission 14 is a joke
o fuck yeah im yawwwwwwwwing
>>585169050It actually benefits from parts during the mission?Does that work for 1 and 2 with the Hornet?
>>585169226>
>Shoots a TV>Disposes of the pistol in a tiny fish tankWhat the fuck was Oliveri's problem
>>585169343you dont really need it in 1 or 2I just know im not good enough to knife edge for 10 seconds in the vanilla version without having to constantly fight the downwards dip, much less at sustained full throttle
fucking hell did you have to beat the game on elite to unlock ace difficulty?
>>585169343I know 1 and 2 are nopes. I had the SP.W ammo part on prior to Restart Campaign, and still had the default 20 4AAMs
>>585169981because that's the way that Ace Combat games work
>>585169981yes
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