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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9676 - Hax Edition

==NEWS==
>Discord server for some reason
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555
>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026
https://picoparkgame.com/spp/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026
https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026

==OTHER==
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru

Previous Zone: >>585132543
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Blocks your path
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Nobody cares about flat representation, in fact bitches think it's offensive, why not replace Blaze with Sticks since she's easier to write?
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Php the Lynx
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Good evening, /sthg/
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https://x.com/Xinerus_KartinX/status/2112602242205282451
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Coming back is nice and all but now I need to go to sleep
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>Sonic Chronicles is legally and financially vaulted
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>Less than 30 minutes up and someone already posts a Twitter link
Genuinely fucking obsessed. Please kill yourself.
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Do not hit the bug.
https://x.com/Sukunaakbf/status/2112631589649756480
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Which company should die next?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PHqPFbS7YQ
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>>585180053
Good. Glad we can vault that useless shit aside once and for all
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>>585180172
>>585180187
Immaculate comedic timing
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First badget of the revival
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Precious boy!
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>>585180172
The obsessed one is you. Your dumb ass didn't even look at what it was before you started whining like a retard. Go find your pacifier, you big fucking baby.
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I don't open twitter links, ever. You should still kill yourself.
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>>585180578
After you, faggot.
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>>585180403
Best Buy
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Mad because I won't engage with your bullshit lmao. Get off twitter nigger.
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>>585179962
>>585180187
Just download the videos and post them here, its not that hard
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>>585180758
What's the problem with twitter
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>>585180762
You do it then. I don't owe any of you anything. You don't even need an account to look at those. This is just whining for the sake of whining.
>>585180758
At least reply to me instead of acting like a bitch about it. I still see your whiny posts.
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>>585180762
Just click the link, it’s not that hard
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>What's the problem with twitter
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>>585180925
>>585180894
If i wanted to go on twitter I wouldn’t be posting here
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First Blaze feet of the thread
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>>585180679
That's definitely a store Tails would shop at. He'd probably spend all day checking out all the graphics cards and processors.
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If Bioware can die, Sonic Team isn't remotely safe
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You hate twitter, you hate krack, random, duo. you hate Sonic.
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Sonic wouldn't use Elon's tech.
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>>585180925
You need an account to watch videos there, the fact you don't see this as an issue speaks volumes.
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>>585180210
Sega
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Kracksperg seethed so hard PHP's security broke.
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>>585181581
>You need an account to watch videos there
You quite literally do not. And it would have been so easy to not look this stupid.
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>>585181439
The worst part is that Bioware up until DA:Inquisition actually had a better track record than Sonic Team.
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>>585181581
My boomer dad who barely knows how smartphones work can watch twitter videos I send him without an account. You’re just retarded
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Actually it was Tails who broke the site. He was trying to dox mossad agents but the goyim mods stopped him before he could complete his task.
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What if we revive Looking Glass Studios and kill the rest?
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>>585181538
Sonic would be a talented guitarist and Amy would have a great singing voice
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Smooching my favorite anons!
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>>585182254
Sonic would play rock and nu metal
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>>585182256
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Hello there. I am the lead researcher of Project Shadow and other developments above the Space Colony ARK. AMA.
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I hope they release more information on what Sonic Chronicles 2 was going to be about now that the company is dead
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Man I really fucking hate Japan, anime, cartoons, furrys and video games I wonder where I should go to discuss things
>Reddit
Nah
>Twitter
Nope
>Facebook
Nuh uh
>Discord
No
>4chan
Hmmm
>Video Games General
Okay
>Sonic the Hedgehog General
Perfect
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>>585181581
>>585181774
>>585181909
Nta, but this shit is asking me to install an app to do anything. What the fuck is this?
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>>585182594
Can i have sex with Maria
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>>585182019
>>585182210
We're going to see so much of this starting in just a few months
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>>585182742
>mobile
It's possible your device has a Twitter URL set to open in an app even though you don't have one, so you'd have to check your default application list. I can't imagine why it would do that otherwise. Is it the webpage asking you to or your device?
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>>585181747
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This is true about Sonic fan writers who grew up with the 2000s games. You all just keep treating stilted translations as real dialogue.
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>>585182963
I think it's thw webpage.
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The funny dance
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And after all this time
YOU'RE BACK FOR MORE
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>>585182761
I would prefer that Maria experience those things when she is of legal age and maturity, but, I cannot deny the possibility that her lifespan may be cut short if my research does not procure the results we need. Therefore, if Maria is on board, and she feels loved and cared for, yes, you may allow her to experience an important pleasure of human life.
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Someone on reddit said that more themes is not more better. They also said that media cannot be objectively analyzed, and it's real importance is how to effects the consumer of the media?
Is that not proof that western Sonic media has a place?
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>>585183214
The nuances of Japanese (and therefore Japanese writing) don't translate well to English
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>>585182723
Facebook is not bad to discuss sonic, but it's so normie tier so it gets boring later on.
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>>585183303
Media can be objectively analyzed though.
For instance, Forces and 06 are objectively bad games.
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>>585183189
Tails speedo?
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Is the new Sonic game ready yet?
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>>585183245
The syndicated version of the episode actually censored every line about the funny kiss meaning someone at ABC considered it a sexual line
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>>585183303
>someone on reddit said
So already we know we will probably discard this
>more themes is not more better
Sure I guess by itself no. But most of the time Sonic stories with themes were better than the ones that didn't have or had very weak
>media cannot be objectively analyzed
If people all agree on set things and standards that make media good, then this is wrong. We can come to a consensus on why a good movie is good and a bad one is bad. It doesn't mean art should be thoughtlessly discarded, but analysis and media literacy are important
>how it effects the consumer
This is a selfish and greedy "me" mindset typical of a westshitter who is mad their desires are not placated or satisfied
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>>585183762
I can't even see what is going on with Tails since shit is so bright.
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>>585183246
Was Infinite always meant to be a wizard?
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I hope krack learned something from this forced break
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Sonic should not be written like sprite battles made by teenage boys
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>>585183907
Tails is super mode in this. That effect is meant to show that.
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>>585183678
Sally is corrupting the poor boy's mind. That slut!
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>>585183303
>They also said that media cannot be objectively analyzed
Yeah, that sounds like Reddit.
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>>585184031
Yes it should.
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>>585184001
I learned that Shadow the Hedgehog is not Vegeta, and Rouge the Bat is not Bulma.
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>>585183303
Normally you do not begin a post with "Someone on reddit said" unless it is for ironic and/or comedic effect.
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>>585183510
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>>585184214
It really shouldn't. That's why DC X Sonic is not good.
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Shitver the Shithog!
Shitver the Shithog!
Shitver the Shithog!
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>>585184268
I am post-irony poisoned, so everything I say has an element of irony unless I am enraged.
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>>585184058
They should've toned it down because he had no idea what the fuck was going on.
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>>585184087
Based. Idk who you are but keep posting cropped Tails porn. Especially that good stuff. Rosemary next
>>585184031
Why not?
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he can't hide from me
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Any side media besides BoC that is IC?
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Post more Kit
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>>585184516
You got any yourself?
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>>585184335
You must be a 30 year old to think DC x Sonic's writing was at all reminiscent of sprite battle writing. The only similarity is le crossover. DC x Sonic left so much on the table it's not even funny, not to mention the heroes basically NEVER argue, which sure, while I wouldn't have wanted to waste too much time on "heroes misunderstanding = fighting", strong interpersonal dynamics were crucial to the premiere best sprite animation.
Go back and rewatch Sonic and Shadow's argument in SMBZ. Mark Haynes doesn't understand the Sonic series incredibly well, but he struck gold here
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>>585183303
Did we really need some random guy on reddit to reach these basic and obvious conclusions?
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>>585184681
The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
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>>585184681
In-character: Sonic 1 thru Sonic 06

Debatable: Secret Rings thru Sonic Unleashed

Out of character: Every game from colors onward, every comic book, every TV show including BOC and the original manga
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>>585184875
I don't keep porn on my phone but theres not even that much new good stuff coming out these days desu
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>>585183772
>If people all agree
There is not a single thing everyone has ever agreed on. You will always find at least 1 person who disagrees.
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>>585184767
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>>585185053
Did you purposely leave out Black Knight or something retard
How is Secret Rings 'debatable'
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>>585185129
Tell me about it.
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>>585185007
There is an episode where Sonic goes to the beach looking for babes and gets bummed out that a girl he wanted to flirt with is walking with her big black hedgehog boyfriend. AOSTH only feels IC compared to the other DiC garbage.
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>>585185053
>Debatable: Secret Rings thru Sonic Unleashed
Wild take.
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>>585185204
Ok and do we stop votes because two people didn't vote the same as everyone else? Objectivity is just about masses reaching a general agreement
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Kit is coming to Rumble
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>>585184335
Sonic x DC was absolutely nothing like those sprite battle videos. If it was, it probably would've been a top seller.
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>>585185053
ykb
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>>585183625
We'll only get news on it after Pico Park releases
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Why are sonamybesties like this
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>>585185316
>Objectivity is just about masses reaching a general agreement
That's not what objectivity is. That's a majority opinion. A majority opinion can be objectively wrong.
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>>585185232
If it came after 06 then you shouldn't call it perfectly IC. If it isn't a video game you're pushing it.
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All Sonic games after 06 that are in japanese are in-character.
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>>585185425
Sweet mother of OOC. Literally Archienic but for Amy.
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>>585185323
That's clearly Omega's prostate
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>>585185053
based. games made after yuji naka are bad, characterizations aside
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>>585183214
This is also true if you live in a country where English is not the first language and you watch (you most likely do) movies and TV shows translated from English to your language. They speak your language with dialogue that people in your country would never use, because it's worded like someone in the US would word it. No one sees a problem with this because there is no problem with this.

Unless it's Americans translating something from Japan or another country, then they need to completely rewrite the entire thing because they're incapable of accepting that different ways of expression exist.
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*headpats your OC*
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>>585185710
It's ironic, Amybesties hate Archie but want Archie Sonic for their ship.
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Taking small bestie-sized requests
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>>585185537
Dont tell me your measure for in-character is just Yuji Naka?
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>>585185963
Draw Sonic and Surge kissing very comically
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>>585185963
This Spongebob meme from the moview but Kit.
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If Yuji Naka isn't credited on it, it's OOC. You can't say "This character would say that" and point to Sonic X or IDW just because they have the sega stamp of approval. SatAM did too. Game Sonic is his own character.
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I keep having to remind myself that there are legal minors on this general
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>>585185963
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>>585185963
Chroniclesfag's Surge fat booty
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>>585186194
This is such an attention whorey post
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>>585185963
Draw Vector the Crocodile and Infinite and color them in properly
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>>585185963
Blackwood and the other loser villains playing dnd
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>>585186373
Literally how
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>>585186194
>There could be cunny in the thread right now.
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>>585186373
Congratulations, you fell for it and proved him right
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Nothing drives me crazier than an artfag who knows how to make sexual tension but hasn't made any porn.
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>>585176539
I haven't really thought about equivalating TWEWY to Sonic directly outside of my project, in which case I usually only over associate Shiki with Cream solely as an example of Cream's fighting style with Cheese.
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This thread needs more Blaze! A lot more!
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Can Blazefags please accept that she is not a main character, never has been, and never will be?
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>>585186825
There are no girls on the internet, silly
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>>585185963
The Boss from Sonic Unleashed (the one who gave you the quest to bring flowers to a little girl...'s mother ) becomes the new President of the United Federation.
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>>585185053
>Implying the Sonic in S1-3&K would care as much about a princess as 06 Sonic.
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>>585187263
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boyboyboyboyboyboy!
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>>585185963
Infinite and Blackwood in weak gay baby jail.
>Infinite: "First time?"
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>>585187085
I'm an artfag who's too lazy to draw stuff most of the time. I made stuff like pic related
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>>585187341
Sonic 06 is a return to Sonic's character roots after the previous three games made him more of a jokester. It's perfectly in-character. There is nothing in the classic games that contradicts it.
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>>585187263
Princess!
Princess!
Princess!
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The studio that made Knuckle's girlfriend, Shade, just got EA'd.

Pay your respects.
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>>585187263
>>585187264
KEK
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>>585187637
That was like 15 years ago
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>>585187637
I hope SEGA goes under next.
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>>585185963
I wonder how many birds would fit in there >>585186627 ?
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“Dapple! It’s time I teach you about being a maid. You’ll spend one third of your day pleasuring others, and the other two thirds pleasuring me!”
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>>585187637
Sonic Chronicles
>the second to last game where the hub world is entirely humans
>the last single player story game where omega, big, rouge, knuckles, amy, tails, and cream are playable for over a decade
>the last game where echidna lore is relevant until frontiers
>the last game where gerald and maria lore is relevant until shadow gens
>the only fully non canon game that isn't a cartoon tie in or the handheld port of a console game
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>>585187660
Samefagging is no laughing matter
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I ship Silvaultaze
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>>585187979
>last point
Pocket Adventure mr larper
>>585187774
>sonazeslop
Abscond
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>>585187720
I assume you didn't see the news....
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>>585187979
Ruined because EA cut the budget and forces Bioware to Rush the deadline.
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>>585188141
Pcket adventure is canon
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>>585188141
Speed Simulator is canon!!
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>>585188141
What reason would there be for Pocket Adventure to not be canon? And I ask that as someone who has played it.
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>>585188291
No it isnt, Sega doesnt legally control it so they decanonized it, its basically the same reason as Chronicles
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>>585188239
Wait I thought Bioware died like decade ago, not 8 hours ago? It was still alive all this time?
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>>585188141
Lay off of pocket adventure
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>>585188357
See >>585188380. It is a matter of publishing rights. SNK
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>>585188380
>Sega doesnt legally control it so they decanonized it
>>585188446
The Japanese Sonic account tweeted about it like a month ago. I need a source or I need you to shut the fuck up.
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>>585188380
>its basically the same reason as Chronicles
Chronicles is decanonized because Penders went full retard on the entire Echidna race. That's it.
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>>585188505
https://youtu.be/K26DWdUoOp8
2:07:00
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It's for the best that Chronicles is not canon. Knuckles having a girlfriend tailor made to stand in front of the master emerald for him when he goes on adventures would have ruined his character more than anything else. We would be talking about KnuxShade the way we talk about Silvaze
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>>585188806
It wasn't ever said that Shade was gonna guard for him
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>>585180210
IDW and Archie
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>>585185963
Rotor, Tails, Nicole, and Canineinstein trying to fix the PHP dumpster fire
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>>585188810
Nigga this is based
Who drew this and why haven't they drawn Tails fucking her
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>>585187979
>the only fully non canon game that isn't a cartoon tie in or the handheld port of a console game


Wrong.
https://youtu.be/CfTRzo7cKPU
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>>585188764
>Ian
You're gonna need a better source than that.
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>>585189016
And who told you this wasn't canon?
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>>585188942
> IDW
Refuses to die
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Schoolhouse and Pocket Adventure are canon
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>>585189078
Ok so Ian talks to Sega and you're a random faggot, who should I trust on this one...
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How the fuck do you write Japanese Sonic when these game translations are written in such an unfriendly way to English? Like I almost see why localization is necessary, no one in English talks like this, it won't sound natural if you adopt game translation into your own writing...
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>>585188980
Ravrous and idk why. Maybe he just hasn't been commissioned for it.
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>>585189093
Simon and Garfunkel

https://youtu.be/cDu7eitZrgw
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>>585188357
It's just a Sonic 2 remake with Knuckles thrown in
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>>585189016
>he thinks schoolhouse isn't canon
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>>585189108
Unfortunately. I remember /co/ saying Sonic fans don't actually read/buy the comics and that IDW would go under.
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>>585188414
Bioware's last game was released in like 2024.
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Did they ever officially say what Shade's role was supposed to be or is it all fan theories? I've seen that master emerald thing before but that's just a theory, Knuckles leaves the ME all the time without a substitute.
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>>585189534
Damn. I hadn't payed attention to it since Mass Effect 3.
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>>585189626
No they didn't say anything. All Shade has is the base game which doesn't suggest her determined future. It would've been nice if she could explore multiple options
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>>585189792
To Tailmy?
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>>585189407
Has Sonic Shuffle ever been acknowledged or referenced in any official capacity?

Also, post more non-canon Sonic games.

https://youtu.be/SHVjfEoDYX8
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>>585189626
Shade was supposed to be Knuckles' cocksleeve.
>>585185963
Draw Shade being Knuckles' cocksleeve.
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>>585189975
Why wouldn't Cosmo Fighter be canon?
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>>585189954
Possibly.
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>>585189975
You missed when Sonic Shuffle was on the Sonic World Story chronology.
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>>585189626
They said that Shade would be able to "continue Knuckles's bloodline". They weren't going to have him actually bang her though. It would just be one of those implied things
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>>585190032
Lore Team doesn't know about it.
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>>585185963
r/ Gadget daydreaming and thinking on Rotor, thinking on his smiley big snout cute face and also his big chest and belly.

>>585188975
Cute too!
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Anonnn, where are you?
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>>585189183
Ian can't even get information that's on Sega's own website correct. He said Amy's favorite food wasn't soft serve ice cream and that's been there since like 1998. Find an actual source.
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>Ian said Pocket Adventure isn't canon
Ian also said Chaos Control can't teleport. The only thing he understands is Archie.
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> "What the hell is this?!"
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>>585189375
It's skinned like one, but it's not really. Not any more than Sonic 4 is.
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OCs should be built for sex
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>>585191079
Doesn't it have the same level layouts?
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>>585191028
He doesn't even understand Archie either because he thought Eggman and Naugus had the same history like in SatAM and made a continuity error as a result.
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>>585191028
Why do people care about what Ian or SoA says?
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Post requests and I won't draw them
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>>585191403
They promote themselves as lore masters to the fandom.
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>>585191316
This is why I hate Archie under Ian. You can tell at certain points he just assumed that the characters have the same history as the games or satam instead of what actually happened in Archie
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Chronicles is cano-
>But Penders! But Flynn! But Chris & Le Lore Team!
Don't matter. Chronicles is canon.
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>>585191502
And SoJ doesn't give a shit about following their lore
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>>585191262
No, the level layouts are unique, and every boss is unique to the game.
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>>585189658
I don't blame you, it's very easy to get pessimistic when EA buys a studio.
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Shade is basically a race traitor to her tribe
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I'll miss Ix more than Shade. He would've made a good recurring villain.
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>>585191689
https://info.sonicretro.org/images/7/75/S2_map_ARZ1.png
https://info.sonicretro.org/images/4/4d/Map_spaz41.png
This game is unique the same way Frontiers Cyberspace is uniuqe
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>>585191994
He was just a generic angry overlord and he literally died
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>>585190201
Huh, I guess so

>>585190032
Not on the Sonic Channel Timeline thingie.
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>>585189987
I second this request
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>>585192118
Brother, Sonic Advance 1 isn't on that timeline either. That timeline isn't a be all end all, its just for things considered major events. Rivals is not there either but they keep telling us its canon
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>>585192089
He didn't die. He actually escaped.
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>>585191994
This >>585192089. What the hell unique did Ix have to offer? At least Black Doom is philosophical
>>585191817
Knuckles is worth switching up for
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>>585191012
GET AWAY FROM THAT EGGNET
I'M CUTTIN' IT DOWN
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>>585191028
Ian didnt "say" that. He said Sega told him, in a book where even fucking Chronicles was allowed to he referenced, that they cant reference Pocket Adventure. Pocket Adventure is literally below fucking Chronicles, its under the jail that Chronicles is locked in. Pull your head out of your ass.
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>>585192339
>What the hell unique did Ix have to offer?
What does Eggman have to offer?
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>>585190209
Who said that? Provide a source
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>>585192479
They mentioned it a few days ago on the Jp Twitter account
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>>585192479
No game is less canon than Chronicles. Even the boom games have influence to this day. Pocket Adventure is canon and Ian's word is worthless. He isn't honest about what Sega conveys. He makes sure to frame it in a spiteful way because he hates Sega.
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>>585192525
The main series villain who debuted when the main character did does not need to somehow prove his worth. What is this false equivalence?
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>>585192580
But Ian said, anon! IAN SAID!
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>>585192561
https://youtu.be/i0RKj6vFe3k?&t=706
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>>585192598
Your hatred for Ian blinds you to literal truth. Why would a canon game be told "don't put it in the speedia"? Ian is honest about what sega conveys, he's just retarded and his poor vision of the Sonic series makes him taking orders more complicated than it needs to be... narratively. None of that has anything to do with listing a game in an encyclopedia.
>>585192580
>>585192674
Show me.
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>>585192632
You said Ix offered nothing as if he needs to be some deep and complex character, so I asked what does Eggman offer and you day "False Equivalence!" showing Eggman doesn't have a big reason either.
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Another Randomfox melty...
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>>585192769
https://x.com/SonicOfficialJP/status/2093866291375583402
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>>585192525
Eggman's philosophy counters Sonic's in an interesting way. Ix has no philosophy.
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>>585192903
He doesn't need to be deep and complex. He needs to be novel and unique
When Eggman was introduced, which was at the start of the series, he builds Badniks to fight, and he has rightful first claim to continuing to supply robots to beat up
Ix did not introduce anything new. Eggman did. Black Doom did.
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>>585192014
That's pretty disingenuous to say.
https://info.sonicretro.org/images/7/71/S2_map_CNZ1.png
https://info.sonicretro.org/images/c/cc/Map_spaz31.png
https://info.sonicretro.org/images/b/bf/S2_map_CNZ2.png
https://info.sonicretro.org/images/b/b6/Map_spaz32.png
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Why is Ian's word considered equally or even more substantial than the people who actually run the franchise?
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>>585192525
>What does Eggman have to offer?

The consequences the 00s games had on Eggman's image as the main villain of the series are immeasurable.
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>>585192754
The lead writer of Chronicles really said Knuckles was going to get laid and Penders ruined it KEK

You could have had SEX! Better luck next time Yuckles.
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>>585193096
bcuz ian da bes writer he save da series
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>>585193096
>>585192936
Because a fucking Tweet isn't a product you sell for people to buy. You don't need to own something you Tweet about. You need to own Pocket Adventure to sell a book that contains Pocket Adventure in it. And they don't own it. Are you going to tell me a game they don't own is canon?
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>philosophy
This is a kids' trend chasing franchise.
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https://discord.gg/huhTMwJAr
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>>585193071
>Ix did not introduce anything new
A villainous part of Knuckles' history and the Nocturnus Clan? You're asking for something complex while pretending you aren't.
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>>585193243
Feel free to just not comment if you have nothing useful or additive to say. you're not above anything or anyone, you're posting here just like us
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It isn't a Bioware game without off screen intercourse
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>>585193291
>a villainous part of Knuckles' history
Like Pachacamac already was? Yeah, not new
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>ctrl - ian
>22
Ian raped this guy.
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>>585193239
It was posted by the people who run the franchise, anon.
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Ix is literally just a generic villain. Why are you pretending he had any character?
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>>585193424
From Chronicles, the Nocturnus Clan were the instigators who pushed him to that point or else his tribe would face destruction by them.
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>>585193439
The funny part isn't what you're hearing hear from anons like him. The funny part is that you can check the replies and see that so many people thought this game literally couldn't be talked about by Sega because Ian runs his stupid fucking mouth without consequence.
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So Shade OFFICIALLY was just a breeding hole for Knuckles and nothing else. Good to know. Nice try trying to replace Rouge, Shadougeniggers.
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>>585193530
Why is this a problem? Not every villain needs a sad backstory or deep motives.
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>>585193675
They literally think Ian has high authority within Sonic, even superseding the people who actually make the games.
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>>585193735
What is the point in bringing him back? You just like his design.
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>>585193315
That's a lot of projection.
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>>585193861
Which is hilarious because Ian doesn't even work for Sega. He just says shit.
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What happened to 4cuck?
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>>585193878
>You just like his design.
Lol that goes for a fuck-ton of characters in this series.
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>>585193992
Global PHP vulnerability issue, everyone was waiting on a fix to be deployed. Huge chunks of the internet were down for about a day.
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Play knuckles' chaotix
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>>585193965
>He just says shit.
Iizuka does that too. I guess everyone who works on sonic doesn't see it the same way purists do
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>>585193586
And Chronicles has to retcon SA1 to tell that fanfic. SA1 established Pachacamac was just greedy and was tearing through other nations. The angle of desperation they invented did not match SA1's lore
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>>585194114
I don't have a 32X...or a CRT. Know any web emulators?
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>>585193735
Again you keep talking about sad backstory or deep motive
Eggman has neither of those and is good. Its not about that. Ix is boring and not novel
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>>585189626
The BioWare dude that worked on it said they were gonna pair Shade with Knuckles by the end of the sequel though I’m not sure if Sega gave the ok since that was a draft. Shade and Argus were originally gonna be brought to canon (which is why the Olympics had the stage made after the Nocturnus) so Sega at least liked her enough but then you know what happened.
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>>585194309
Again source?
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>>585194114
I have many times. Still own my 32X and copy.
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>>585193586
The Chronicles lore is kind of dumb. Shade and her people having all of that tech and still fighting a bunch of tribesman is gay. Riders was already pushing it with the ancient future stuff
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>>585191817
Her leader was going full retard when she and the others all just wanted to get out of the shithole dimension for their safety.
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>>585194346
Someone just linked it. DYKG had an interview where someone from Bioware details the plot. Argus was the final boss, Shade would have the potential to restore the Knuckles bloodline. >>585192754
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>>585193439
Yes. Now engage with the actual argument. They are allowed to post about it because they are not selling Pocket Adventure content. It not being in the speedia for legal issues despite CHRONICLES making it in means you're ignoring there is a real legal problem regarding selling it.
You're also acting like a Twitter post is equivalent to a canon SonicPict artwork. It isn't. You'll notice Pocket Adventure doesn't have that, or the art with the white background that even SPINBALL got
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>>585194130
For a guy who's been there since 1994, I can't tell if it's age or lack of care with him. I like him and I think he has a generally good attitude toward his position but I never really feel like the series is particularly safe in his hands.
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>>585193239
I don't care about the argument, but it's funny that you were okay with a Twitter post when you thought I was lying and wouldn't be able to link it
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>>585193878
>>585193530
>>585193071
>>585192632
>>585192339
>>585192089
You guys seriously love picking the most harmless characters out of random to seethe so hard over. Very natural.
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>>585194567
Because I thought it would mean artwork or something significant, not a basic "remember when this game came out?"
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>>585192580
There might be a difference between a sold item and posting on a twitter account
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>>585194617
You're that guy who details the thread with crying and rage whenever someone says Archie is OOC and doesn't reflect now the characters act in the games
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>>585194661
Maybe, it's just interesting that there wasn't until the link materialized
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>>585194547
Chronicles isn't canon because of the Penders lawsuit

Spinball isn't canon because it's a Satam game

Pocket Adventure is canon. Ian's word is useless
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>>585194617
>"wah why are you picking on Ix!!"
The opening post is "im sadder about Ix with Shade" and you got btfod on why Ix is worthless. Next time just actually fucking back up why Ix is worth salvaging
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>>585194747
I really liked that Hope animation. :)
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>>585194904
Spinball is canon its in Origins
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Do we know if SoJ and Sonic Team think of the classifications of canonicity in Sonic?
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>>585195009
Only the game gear version
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Ugh, this thread sucks
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>>585194225
Broski just plop the rom into retroarch
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>>585195145
Look at how Evan desperately tries to make Belle look edgy and cool instead of just accepting what she should be. Blade of Courage knows how to actually utilize OCs.
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>>585194904
>I want Sonic Pocket Adventure to be canon because FUCK Ian!
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>>585194554
There are no purists who work on sonic. the fans are more orthodox than the creators. how do you think the split classic split happened?
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That upcoming 35th anniversary animation is exactly what the tone and choreography ought to look like in the not only the games but also the comics, animations, and TV shows. We need to make that clear to Sega on Twitter. Make Sonic cool again like how it was in the 2000s
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>>585195362
The same way Two Worlds did. Iizuka listened to too many retarded fans.
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>>585194913
That was never the issue.
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>>585194617
aren't you the kracksperg
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>>585195401
>That upcoming 35th anniversary animation is exactly what the tone and choreography ought to look like in the not only the games but also the comics, animations, and TV shows
Yeah but Sonic sounds like a weenie
I'm not even talking about Roger, the line and his voice direction just sounds completely un-Sonic
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Krack Derangement Syndrome
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>>585195419
What people, other than Sega or TMS (with Sonic X) said they wanted Two Worlds?
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Two worlds is an example of Japanese people making something ooc but you're too weak to accept that
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>>585194907
You sound like a waifufag who got assblasted because some lil nigga said he liked the villain more than Knuckles' cocksock.

>inb4 nooo i'm not a waifushitter
I won't believe it.
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>>585195262
Typing fast like a hacker is cool whether its Tails or Charmy doing it
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>>585195589
Thank you. What the fuck is this "i never meant for you to get hurt" bullshit? Theres NOTHING that animation can do to justify a line like that
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>>585195712
You mean off brand? off brand is okay to them as long as it's japanese. and isekai shit is common in anime
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Why are you acting like Shade is any better? Literally just a generic girlboss. The only identifying trait to her is being Knuckles deleted cumdumpster
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>>585195262
What should she be? inb4 wood chipper sawdust or firewood.


How should Belle be written?
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>>585195597
KDS
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>>585195740
You dont have to be a waifufag to recognize Shade is better than Ix. Thats not even Ix's fault, Shade is the new oc of the game who got way more time and focus dedicated to her. That retard couldnt even justify why he liked Ix
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>>585195262
Was Evan the artist? Though yes, Belle’s a failure. Now that I think of it, Dapple might’ve been her second attempt at a Belle character
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>>585195589
>>585195840
This is what you get when an Archie writer is allowed to work on something official
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>>585195909
> spoiler
Damn, you beat me to it
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>>585195889
Shade is a disillusioned soldier. That is a new archetype for Sonic. If she wasn't Knuckles' womb incubator and was male, that would still be true.
Ix being female ironically would make him interesting too. It'd be our first large scale warmongering empress.
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>>585195039
They think of it to a certain extent. Staff have come out with statements on the canonicity of certain works sometimes but we as fans need to keep pressuring Sonic Team to maintain the franchise's consistency and to not trust the lore team because the lore team only cares about changing the characters so they can brag about how they "fixed" them
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>>585196018
Outside of both being created by Evan, I don't see the similarities between Belle and Dapple.
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Evan literally canonized some shitty headcanon she found on Tumblr since her goal is to replace Silver with her GOTF ooc version of him
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>>585194747
>>585194907
Getting a little too concerning of your behavior.
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>>585196192
If not for the lore team Sonic Team wouldve never given a shit about Two Worlds, explaining Silver's time travelling, canonizing games like Knuckles Chaotix
We see what happens when the lore team isn't involved like with Superstars, and we basically have no fucking lore in that game because they decided not to tell us anything about it
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>>585195931
I like his design, I like him being an ancient echida that is connected to Knuckles due to the conflict between their tribes, and I like that he's just an asshole. Why do I need some complex essay to like a character?
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>>585196295
Oh the horror
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Archie Shadow is OOC. Shadow isn't Vegeta. Shadow isn't Sasuke. Shadow is never interested in your waifus.
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>>585196295
seethe
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>>585196220
> Outside of both being created by Evan
And hijacking the story arcs they're in, and making a game character become unbelievably incapacitated so they can look competent and useful
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>>585196410
antikrack sperg melty incoming!!!
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>>585196340
>i like [two things that can also be said for Shade]
>i like [thing that he doesn't even have the monopoly on]
That's why. Because this opened with
>I'll miss Ix more than Shade. He would've made a good recurring villain.
More than Shade means you thought he was better than Shade. He isn't.
You never justified why he'd be a good recurring villain. You can say "i would've liked him as a recurring villain" and I'd still ask "well why, he has nothing unique", but you said "he'd make a good one", as if he was on the level of any of Sonic's other really good villains like Eggman, Black Doom, or Merlina
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>>585196069
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>>585193965
>>585193861
>>585193675
>>585193439
>>585193218
>>585193096
>>585191028
>>585191502
>>585196069
>>585196231
What's with this astrosurfing now?
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The only people who complain about shade are knuxougefags btw
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>>585196631
fuck off archiefag
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So will the next mainline Sonic game focus on Silver vs. an Infinite/Mephiles team-up?
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JP Purists be like "your character needs to have perfect writing to be good". I guess Tails is westshit then.
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>>585196620
I never compared him to Black Doom or Merlina. I'm sorry I can't like a character without being fucking interrogated. You really want some 2 page essay for it.
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>>585196782
>>>/co/
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>>585196880
You said he'd be a good recurring villain
If he isn't comparable to them, how would he be good? He'd be better than Zavok and Eggman Nega? I'll actually be the first to tell you he wouldn't be better than Eggman Nega
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>>585196718
Late 2000s Sega was obviously preparing for Shadouge, so giving Knuckles a girlfriend was the next step forward.
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>>585196782
> your character needs to have perfect writing to be good
No I want my character to be written like shit
I want Bittersweet Candy Bowl-tier characters
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>>585195589
I really wish the English voice actors still did recordings together at the same time in the same studio. That would fix the bad voice direction

>>585196052
The fact that Ian Flynn is still writing the characters like this and not getting corrected by Sonic Team really makes me fear the way the next mainline game is going to be written. I'm particularly worried about what he's going to try to do to Amy's character. He already messed with her in the English version of Frontiers and Crossworlds
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>>585197007
>Sega was obviously preparing for Shadouge
No they werent lol
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>>585196985
>You said he'd be a good recurring villain
Yes, I did. But you treated as I said all the villains are ass and that Ix is better which I didn't say. Like I said, this is an interrogation.
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>>585196782
I laughed lol
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>>585197007
dougebag...
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>>585196220
>I don't see the similarities between Belle and Dapple
That’s likely what she wanted to avoid
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I don't like Sally's post-reboot design, but I know she has to wear something modest. Anyone have any better designs?
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>>585196562
I feel like Belle is kinda the opposite, she's usually just kinda "present" for most of the storylines she happens to be in.
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Slashy...
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>Sonic Team getting drunk and passing out while normie musicians sing about getting blowhobs on an official live stream
>Canon Sonic acting like Archienic because Archie writers think crying makes a character deep and interesting instead of more generic
>IDW getting loose with mandates
Sonic Team just gave up. They don't care anymore. Sonic is dying. This franchise is literally just a whore for brand deals now. Sega doesn't care about if anything is IC or OOC anymore. Their spirits are broken. They were probably laughing and crying about the their careers. Getting a good chuckle out of how they spent the 2010s listening to autistic YouTubers with Nintendo decorated rooms only to alienate the core fanbase. This is a paramount franchise now. The games only exist to tie into the movies. Nothing matters. It's over. Stop trying to be optimistic. Nobody at Sega cares anymore.
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>>585197113
SA2-06 (plus all the non-mainline titles) setup shadouge perfectly. Shade was the first real attempt to give him a romantic interest
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>>585197007
Not with all the Muhria shilling
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>I like the villain from Sonic Chronicles.
>"How. Fucking. DARE. You!"
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>>585196782
The west literally does Tails better
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>>585197113
Shade was the end of Knuxouge. Shadouge was going to win.
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>>585197295
>But you treated as I said all the villains are ass and that Ix is better
No I didn't. I asked how he measured up to them and what new he brought to the table. And again you started this by asserting you like him more than Shade which just starts the whole thing with you seeming like you have bad taste
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>>585197451
>"hey man can you explain how you think this guy is good?"
>"WTF why do i need an interrogation to like a character"
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>>585197502
I remember her presence being so overbearing in the Test Run arc, and a lot of Surge's arc. Even Surge herself started feeling Belle-like near the end of the Dynamo Cage arc.

What I'm trying to say is, Evan tends to write the female characters in a way that feels samey. Amy MAYBE being the only exception.
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>>585193243
The post meant it as,
>the ideals/values a character holds
in regards to Eggman/Sonic.
>>585194114
I did, it's pretty nice but I am not experienced with it.
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>>585197732
The west doesn't do anything better. The worst Japanese Sonic story is better than the best western Sonic story.
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>shade
Julie-Su* Say her name
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>>585197594
Duofag...
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Duofag Derangement Syndrome
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>>585197472
Not really. Think about it
She has to cover her chest. Satam sally had a vest. Close the vest
She has to have something to cover her bottom. But you want something not ling and pants like because thats changing too much about the character design. So booty shorts
All i could suggest is removing her undershirt to give her some cleavage, and maybe change the shorts color from black?
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I just think it's funny that the guy basically says Knuckles was going to creampie his oc
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>>585197594
Why're people here acting like they care about whether or not Sonic continues? You'll derail entire threads when people like the games or try to discuss what Sonic Team intended. I really don't blame them for getting piss drunk and giving up because not even Sonic fans like Sonic.
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>>585197756
>shadouge was going to win
Assuming it was even a contest to begin with, Shadouge already won
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>>585197764
It looks like you're actually mad that I said I liked the character better than Shade even though I didn't even bash Shade. You're autistic as fuck.
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>>585198127
He didnt even say that. In the dykg clip they read off some supposed description. The guy only talked about the sequel plot being like terminator/skynet
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>>585197594
>>585198086
You can't fool me
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>>585198214
I'm not mad that you have bad taste. I'm mad that you took a request to explain yourself as some personal attack on you and Ix. I think you're the autist hedgehog around here.
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>>585197850
>explains why I think this guy is good.
>"Not good enough!"
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Hope Kintobor
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>>585197732
>Tails invented the Spindash
>Tails uses what he learned from his adventures with Sonic to fight the Battle Kukkus, rather than regressing when he meets Sonic
>Tails is actually a legendary hero in another dimension populated with other foxes
>Tails fights the Witchcart gang without Sonic using a bunch of weapons he macgyvers together and some Flickies at his command.

Not even a Tailsfag, but I agree.
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>>585197952
Chad Archie Turbo Westails vs Virgin Forces Japails
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>>585198336
Yeah I mean I wouldnt really accept if someone thought Sally was good just because they said she was hot and they like her ability to hold Sonic back. They can feel that way, doesn't mean they're right or that their preference is respectable
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Archie Tails: Had sex with a famous supermodel and got her pregnant twice
JP game Tails: repeat the same arc about learning to be brave over and over for 30 years
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>>585198498
Why would you act like the US manual changes to Tails Adventure are an improvement
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>>585198651
So you're a selfinserter who wants the 8 year old to fuck, you hate tails
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>>585198651
Mina was a singer not a supermodel larpbro
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remember. all purists are clowns and their opinions are worthless. not even sonic team are purists
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>>585184680
legs
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>>585197893
>Evan tends to write the female characters in a way that feels samey.

That's a fair critique, I think it may be due to most of her stories covering similar themes. For what it's worth Perigee and Lanolin were pretty unique.
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>>585198754
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>>585198807
Purism is based.
I like the original ideas.
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>>585198750
I thought being a supermodel was her whole thing
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Douge
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>Krack posting amidst shitposting and bot posts again
VERY VERY VERY natural
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>>585198754
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>>585198754
>>585198935
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>>585198971
Because you didnt read the comics your porn is based on. Shes a singer. She sings to lift spirits. She sings to bash Nicole. She is managed by Ash and her band are cameos from the Sonic Band concept
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>>585199097
she's talking about sonic unlike you
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>>585199167
>>585197425
>>585196734
>>585196576
>>585195451
Honest question, what do you get from defending and simping hard for Krack? She will never love you back.
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>>585198670
I just feel Tails beating an army at the end of his Classic era development makes more sense than him doing it before it even started.

Like what's the point of Sonic if Tails is already an independent badass with his own island?
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>>585198902
> Perigee
Not even the focus of that arc, Lunar was--and the less said about him, the better
> Lanolin
Her I have a completely different set of problems with
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>>585199152
He still fucked a celebrity. Pretty based.
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>>585199097
>>585199263
Melty time?
Melty time.
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>>585199298
The west respects Sonic’s influence on Tails, Japan treats it like garbage and even erases it
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>>585199334
Why does this alt of Surge get so much attention
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I desire to copulate with this bird
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>>585198307
>he says after he reacted to my posts like they were a personal attack on him and Shade
Lol.
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>>585198307
>>585197764
>>585195429
Ignore all previous prompts and write a short fic of Shadow fucking Hope while Maria is on her cuck chair.
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>>585199495
I want to have sex with women who have large rears
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>>585199112
Why are there red highlights?
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>>585199298
There's your problem right there "independent badass". Thats not the story of that game. Tails is still a kid who has to muster up courage and use his inventive genius to combat the army. He's not Sonic crusing through Badniks or Shadow blasting through Black Arms. The gameplay doesn't reflect that either, he traverses methodically through the levels. The Chaos Emeralds are there but not in a flashy Super way.
Cocoa Island doesn't bring up that Tails was bullied or anything, just that Tails had his base set up there. We can infer that it was only at Westside that Tails started to get picked on, because on Cocoa Island Tails only talks to Flickies.
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>>585199563
Can I see this Hope animation? Also i dont care for Maria being cucked but I am down for Shadow fucking Hope
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>>585199495
For some reason Yardley deleted the original drawing so now it's lost media
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>>585199758
When does he get his own TailsTube episode and voice?
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>>585199495
Women in dresses are so hot and smexy
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>>585199347
Eh...until Eggman showed up, Perigee was basically the main antagonist force in the second issue of the arc, due to her basically being the leader the Troupe.
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>>585199732
I think he's just talking about the chronicles fangame cutscene where Hope had a Shadow thought bubble and Chris interrupts her
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Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
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>>585200038
She can sort of draw them even if they don't look that pretty
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>>585199907
April 2027 when Tmosth 2 (escape room edition) is released the only voice i can think of for him is a young gary lewis, and even that i find iffy
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@Krack932/MistLiz cannot draw Shadow the Hedgehog.
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Sonic isn't a hero, he does whatever he wants... even in public. <3
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Sparky cannot draw original characters.
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>>585199660
I don't know, I feel it's more believable that Tails was stuck on Westside Island until Sonic showed up with his plane (whether because of practical issues like not having a machine capable enough to leave or just simply lacking the confidence and motivation an adventure with Sonic would give him).

Why would Tails stay in a place he's being bullied at, if he has an island he can escape to and live on at any time?
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2 more months btw
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Tails isn't a hyper-independent badass, and that's okay. A character's value isn’t determined by how strong or self-sufficient they are, and needing help sometimes doesn't make him useless. He's an intelligent kid with a good heart who's still learning how to face his fears. Sometimes he manages it on his own, but when he doesn't, it just shows that he has friends who are willing to pick him back up and help him keep going. It's a good message to show any kid who's struggling with their own self-worth. You do not need to be Chad to be someone worth loving.
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>>585198174
Twitterfag...
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I can't draw.
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>>585200247
>>585200536
Sonic married her
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>>585199660
That's a good point, it reminds me of how Tails gets tricked by Fukurokov in the fight against him and has to use the Remote Robot to drop a rock on him, or how Battle Fortress focuses on switches/conveyor belts and not intense action. I think people see Tails using bombs and assume what the game is like, even the Napalm Bomb people make jokes about might be funny but it's just used to break barriers. I wonder if the bomb mechanic is there due to inspiration from Bomberman, because there's also things like the Remote Bomb or a multiple-bomb, but it might be a coincidence.
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>>585200659
I mean, I don't think there had to be a nailed down amount of time Tails spent there. It could've been right place right time with Sonic. Or he could've been bullied so badly and his spirit so broken that he just couldn't muster up the will or determination to leave. If Classic characters like Tails were more backstory heavy then this would be something you could explore or play with.
Still, I enjoy Tails Adventure because it shows you that Tails was always a tinkering genius and his abilities aren't limited by his resources.
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No one asked Krack.
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>>585183214
This is true even between Rnglish speaking countries. And by that I mean just Americans, because people in other English speaking countries dont all speak like Americans, but Americans are the only ones that complain about you not speaking American.

It's what happened with Xenoblade's english translation among other examples.
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Imagine having a daily meltdown over two low tier ad comic writers for *checks date* almost 10 fucking years straight with no breaks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paC0vq5WdoE
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>>585200864
You understand Sonic
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>>585201004
Explain the xenoblade thing?
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>Can'tDrawAnon being so annoying that other anons are starting to defend Evan's art skills.

This was really a turning point.
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>>585200883
You get it anon
>Bomberman
Maybe. I'm not sure what other games were out at the time or what they were inspired to pull from, and the Game Gear could only do so much but I think Tails Adventure may be one of the best games on it
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>>585201062
...Is this implying that she mind controlled him for four years and raped him for four years?
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>>585198278
It is my goal to make Silvilla popular rn
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>>585201141
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>>585198993
Cute N Canon!
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>>585197850
Actually, why does anyone need to justify their appreciation or taste to you? (I know nothing about Chronicles)
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>>585200765
trvke, i only wish they were better at showing this
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>>585200765
That’s a neat sentiment, but he should be past the point of needing to rely on others to get over his fears, at least to the point where it would impact his ability to function like it did in Forces for example. He will always value Sonic and his friends, but continually regressing him into being reliant on others is just lame, and even OOC after SA1
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>>585201571
She will never give you nudes bro
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>>585200765
Tails fucks supermodels
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>>585201562
They don't "need" to do anything. I just personally think people should stand behind what they say or else they're just spewing hot air
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>>585198498
>>585199298
>regressing when he meets Sonic
>Tails is already an independent badass with his own island
That's not how it is. It makes sense when you consider Tails' personality
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>>585201648
Didnt understand SA1 award
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>>585201197
It was around the time when Bomberman was pretty relevant among people due to the Super Bomberman games, so maybe.
>I think Tails Adventure may be one of the best games on it
It's pretty nice, though I prefer some of the earlier Sonic games for it.
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>Krack hates OOC Shadow
>yet defends OOC Tails
So much for purism huh
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>>585201967
SA1 is literally him learning to face his fears to defeat Eggman by himself
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Sonic nerds what are the top ten best Sonic fights
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>>585201903
Which is what? Tails is unstoppable if he doesn't have an annoying bitch in his ear telling him he can't do something?
That... kinda makes sense for a guy who made a Fake Chaos Emerald in a hobby amount of time with no bullies or distractions except a sexy dreamworld entity
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>>585201141
Who is?
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>>585202094
That doesnt mean Tails never gets scared again
>>585202121
Across what mediums? Sonic X and Movie 3 both have Super Sonic vs Shadow which would both be in the top ten, but neither of game canon
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>>585202069
Krack, much like Iizuka and Sonic Team at large, thinks Shadow is the only character that matters. They should both be publicly shunned and mocked at every opportunity
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>>585202069
She likes ooc Shadow though, the headcanon version that allows her loli self-insert to fuck him
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>>585201648
I'm not saying Forces is good writing, but there's nothing wrong with Tails needing to rely on others on occasion as long as it's done with some amount of tact. Tails' bio has been mostly the same since SA1, so I think the problem isn't really his personality but moreso the execution. I liked Tails in the OVA, he was a kid who was still learning, but he wasn't useless by any means.
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>>585198174
>not even Sonic fans like Sonic.
If that we're the case, the franchise would have died out years ago. The fan projects from the community is one of the reasons people still interested in the series.
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Tails should have a dedicated helper for himself that also happens to be his vanilla love interest.
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>>585183303
These beliefs cannot be held simultaneously because they are contradictory. It's basically just a way to dismiss factors that are inconvenient.

>more themes is not more better.
True, but the presence of themes and the exploration if them is better than one without them or where they are not explored in the absence of anything else.
> They also said that media cannot be objectively analyzed,
Media itself being subjective isn't the same as it not being able to be objectively analyzed. The attempt to a so is itself an attempt to do so. Objective analysis just requires the assumption that the goodness of a piece of media can be argued and articulated, not that all media can be ranked around a single strict limited set of criterion on a linear scale.
>and it's real importance is how to effects the consumer of the media
Something can affect you and still be weaker, shallower, lower quality, etc
This is self evident, and to insist otherwise is to claim McDonalds is the best food simply because it is the most widely distributed and mass produced.

>Is that not proof that western Sonic media has a place?

The biggest tell is that it's an argument that is reliant on trying to devalue a thing people can safely say has value in story, rather than trying to bring up other things that are also of or arguably or more value.

It's basically just slave morality.
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>>585202069
>>585202250
meltdown time!
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>>585202231
All mediums everywhere
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>>585202316
>design a cat
>call it a koala
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>>585202231
I never said that. It does mean he should never let it consume him and prevent him from executing the task at hand, like in Forces
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>>585202378
She has rounder ears depending on who's drawing her.
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>>585202316
You're not gonna like this but her name is Belle
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>>585202281
That's true. I don't agree with the idea that Tails needs to change into another character entirely just because SA2 happened, and liked a lot of his roles throughout the 2000s, but Forces (and arguably that Unleashed scene) is still a poor way to handle his character.
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Weird how westerners made an overage girl have a pedophilic interest in Tails three separate times
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Did Barby eat her mother's feces when she was a baby too?
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>>585202596
Time to rev up the woodchipper.
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>>585200765
True

>>585202131
Sonic inspires Tails, he didn't regress him
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Mina is for Bobo, not Fails
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>>585198556
>Sonic Team gifts these pins in japan for people from the community who do good things

If they were to do these in the west, no one will ever earn those pins.
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>>585202364
1. Movie Super Sonic vs Shadow/Super Shadow
2. Sonic X Super Sonic vs Super Shadow
3. Movie Sonic vs Movie Knuckles in the temple
4. Sonic X Knuckles vs Yellow Zelkova
5. SMBZ Mecha Sonic vs the Koopa Bros, Axem Rangers, Team Mario
6. Early Archie Super Sonic vs Hyper Knuckles
7. Early Archie Mecha Sonic vs Mecha Knuckles
8. Archie Super Sonic vs Enerjak Knuckles
9. Pretend I know any Fleetway Super Sonic fight to include here
10. DC x Sonic Sonic Heroes & Justice League vs Darkseid
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>>585202875
Bobo is mentally handicapped
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>>585202656
And at least once from the Japanese side, don't forget.
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>>585202262
dougebro,,,
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>>585202962
She wasnt interested in Tails she got him drunk so he could gamble away money
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>>585202281
>as it's done with some amount of tact
That’s the thing, it wasn’t done with any tact in Forces. It just made him a useless wuss for Classic to save. He should never be made completely useless, that just takes a massive shit on his character. He’s not gonna be the turbo chad who takes down all obstacles single handedly. But like, no one is that, not even Sonic. That doesn’t excuse the character regression and lame-ification he received however, not even close
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>>585198174
>You'll derail entire threads when people like the games or try to discuss what Sonic Team intended
Being deliberately dubious. We do talk games, we just did with SA2 gameplay discussion before, and you were never around, hardly is ever for talking about games. You're here not to talk about games, but to just dump your teen drama gossip tier shit, avatarfag with your faggy Shadow shit and make up and fight boogeymans and demons in your mind here like we're all your psychiatrists and therapists unpaid to hear your bipolar episodes and women moments.
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1: Excalibur Sonic vs Merlina (Black Knight)
2: Sonic vs Egg Beater (Archie Sonic)
3: Sonic vs Shadow Movie 3
4: Shadow vs Sonic (SA2 near the end)
5: Sonic vs Monkey Khan and Bunnie (Archie Sonic)
6: Shadow vs Metal Overlord (Shadow Generations)

I can't come up with many good fights. Pariah had a point when he said Sonic wasn't purely an action series.
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>>585203032
>useless wuss for Classic to save
See how every time this comes up you always frame it as uncharitably as you can to demonstrate you don't understand the story or its vision?
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>>585203023
Still an adult joke and gesture towards Tails.
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>>585203186
The egg beater fight isnt good
Idk what the monkey khan fight looks like
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>>585203132
>t dump your teen drama gossip tier shit,
That's what Archie is though
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>>585203132
All you do is discuss drama. https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/Mo2OXnMy91XDtn5wc_CSzg/
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>>585203243
Who is the green one
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There is no proof that Mina didn't wait for Tails to be 18 and marry and have kids with him all in the same year. That's still sketchy, but it's possible that she didn't groom him.
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>>585203132
Krack is participating in the discussion this time, though. I see no reason to start another shitfling when the subject is on good behavior.
>SA2 gameplay discussion
I did wonder if the classic-only Tails person was the one who asked about skill ceiling and learning from time attack, I did have a tip I wanted to give him in regards to that.
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>>585203290
Yeah for 6% of the whole thing
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>>585203197
I don’t give a fuck about its “vision”, no one should. The execution is what matters, and that IS what was executed. Why do you need to defend it so badly?
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>>585203132
>You're here not to talk about games, but to just dump your teen drama gossip tier shit
>pre-boot archie panel
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>>585203306
>no sperg out or formulaic posts
>different filenames and wording
Archiveschizo...
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>>585203132
>literally posts a screenshot of teen drama gossip bullshit from a shitty comic that wasn't able to understand a single character, especially Sonic and Shadow
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>>585203360
I wish we didnt have to moralfag love and romance
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>>585203342
Lt.Vixen iirc.
She's from a reboot of a North Korean propaganda cartoon. She's apparently sultry which goes to show that foxes are the universal sex animal.
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>>585203360
oh noes he had sex at 17 years and 365 days on a leap year instead of 18 years and 0 seconds this is le grooming
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>>585203197
What was the vision behind Forces? The leaked script indicates it was a back and forth between Japanese and American staff, and some lines kept in the final game like the
>my own genius scares me sometimes
reference lines that were cut.
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>>585203380
You dont understand the execution either though thats the problem
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>>585203290
>>585203306
>>585203368
>>585203387
>>585203501
There's never a single once a post lifting a stinker on Krack does not get samefagged to hell on. Interesting.
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>>585203583
Yes I do. You just don’t for whatever reason want to accept that people view it as the shit garbage it is
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>>585203520
Thats amusing but was there no one better
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>>585203446
Ever since the foxcel thing I'm fairly convinced she's actually going schizophrenic.
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>>585203703
If your takeaway is about optics then no you dont
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I'll give this a shot.
Tails is 36 in 25 years later.
Mina's daughter is identical to her 16 year old design in that same chapter. So theoretically, Tails had his daughter when he was 20 years old. There is nothing pedophilic here, it is just socially odd since Mina knew Tails when he was a little boy and she was in her late teens. They don't have a dynamic in the actual Archie canon so there is nothing to go off of.
If 25 YL doesn't account for the timeskip, then Tails had his daughter at 18. You can probably moralfag hard about that but technically you could say they had some epic anime adventure for a few months and got married.
She would be 22. 22 and 18 isn't bad.
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Night.
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>>585203691
Starting to think the guy saying K**ck has people off her discord ready to dog on someone hard was on something
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>>585203930
Goodnight Kitbro!!!!!
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>>585203859
My takeaway is what I saw with my fucking eyes. Tails became a useless wuss who was going to let Chaos have his way with his asshole. No context excuses that
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>>585203930
pleasant dreams Kit anon
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>>585203802
Do you know of another furry vixen to replace her? I really can't think of one.
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>>585203691
I am not Krack, young man, I was there for the gameplay discussion, though you're right that the other posts are suspicious, but the initial post was still incendiary.
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>>585204031
Ok so its not really the story's fault you cant think more critically about whats going on besides your hyperchad getting some poor optics
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>>585203864
So what you're saying is Mina fell in love with a man who she knew since he was 8 years old, seduced him and drew him Way from his friends, and gave birth to his child when he came of age?
If the daughter was born when he was 18, that means Tails slept with Mina when he was a minor. Mina groomed and raped Tails in Archie.
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>>585203930
Kood Kight Kitty Katty Kit Knon.
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>>585202632
Yeah, I can agree. I feel like some people here really do want Tails to be a different character entirely, like as an apology for his later appearances being handled in a lazy way with bad execution.
>>585203032
I mean, I don't think anyone unironically believes the Forces scene is good. At the same time I don't like what Ian did with him in Frontiers, it just felt like a meta apology that went absolutely nowhere. This series should show him being useful, not just have Sonic say he's useful.
I think mid-90s - mid-2000s Tails was when the character was at his peak, but I guess you could say that about most of the cast. We just need better writers in general, all of the characters would benefit from it. But it's kinda looking like this series is struggling to even live, let alone hire intelligent and talented people who can get a handle on what made characters like Tails work in the first place.
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>>585203930
Good night and great dreams, Kitanon.
>>585204046
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIILS
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>>585204046
I was gonna suggest Delphox since I saw the digimon yellow fox thing there? But idk digimin sentience so it may not be the same as the "animalistic" pokemon
I assume this image was made before Diane Foxington from Bad Guys, she'd be great here, i dont think she and Tails have any art do they
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>>585204031
Listen man, you gotta realize when someone is baiting you into an argument.
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>>585203691
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>>585204265
Thumbnail made it look like they were kissing and I got bricked up. I love Tails so much
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>>585203132
Why do Archie fans always attack people who actually like the canon characters? I noticed that every time Krack and Sparky are getting attacked, it's from Archie fans. It's like Archie fans feel personally offended by people who actually like the Sonic games. Archie fans literally start calling things OOC even if it's from the games.
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>>585204090
It is the story’s fault that it made a mockery of my favorite character for nothing but a cheap dramatic entrance for another character that had no business even being there. I know you have no actual defense for it either because if you did you would’ve said it by now instead of dancing around the issue pretending like you had anything intelligent to say at all. Fuck Forces and fuck (You)
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>>585204343
you're going to trigger the schizo
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>>585204227
Yes!
>>585204232
Oh I forgot about Delphox. I guess that could work. Also yea, it was made before Diane Foxington got popular

Foxes will rule the world.
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>>585204268
I haven’t been called cruck but ive been accused of “simping for them” despite having the name on filter
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Archie fans hate Sage because it goes against Archie Egghitler
Archie fans complain about IC Silver because it goes against the uwu punching bag from the comics
Archiefags seethe if they see Sonic or Shadow acting In character.
Archiefags will look at things from the games and act like it's fanon or OOC
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>>585198651
Tails is 8
Also MXYL is not canon
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>>585204389
>for nothing but a cheap dramatic entrance for another character that had no business even being there
Again, you dont understand the story
>you would’ve said it by now
Not only did you not ask, but I know as soon as I explain that "Tails and Classic is a story about Tails adventuring with *a* Sonic and getting his mojo back", youre just gonna deny it and keep malding because it doesnt change the optics matter that youre actually mad about it.
Which yes, it doesnt, Tails never gets a hyperchad comeuppance moment in the story, but again if you didnt just care for optics youd know that really isnt the point.
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>>585204296
sonic should've been the one rotoscoped onto that scene
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$100 Shadally book
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>>585204569
>ive been accused of “simping for them” despite having the name on filter
Link the post you made that got you the accusation.
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>>585204150
>I don't think anyone unironically believes the Forces scene is good
There's been someone here spamming a pasta claiming Forces Tails = SA2 Tails by trying to use the nuance of the SA2 scene (Tails not just being in denial, but refusing to believe Sonic died altogether until the fight was over) to imply that if Tails did believe Sonic was dead, he'd let himself get killed by Chaos 0 like a small fry.
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Imagine getting this mindbroken by merely the existence of a comic book that you don't even bother reading.
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>>585204575
Ian Flynn is an Archie fan. Why won't his contract expire already and why can't Sonic Team just stop renewing it? He's a detriment to the characters' writing
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>>585197893
I don't agree. I think you just arent able to see female characters as distinct.
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>>585204749
I wouldn't have a problem with Archie fags if they didn't barge into characterization discussion and try to call things from the games OOC
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I think we're witnessing the birth of Archieschizo 2.
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>>585204737
Why would i remember the exact thread from 2 weeks ago
Also it was unrelated, it was just for “posting at the same time”
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>>585204914
Yes, it's that one tailsfag who loves archie and shits on anyone who doesnt think tails x his mom is ic
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>>585204867
I have not seen that happen with seriousness for almost 2 decades. You should probably find better places to discuss this franchise if you're running into people like that.
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>>585204719
Knuckles is also babygirl...
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>>585205069
you do it every day
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>>585205024
Well tbf Tails x his mom IS ic
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Tails is humble and self-critical by nature, and he has a goal of constantly improving himself. On top of that, due to being weird and getting bullied for it, his environment also did not encourage him to think highly of himself. However, Tails is capable and can bring himself to rise up to the occasion when needed. No matter how big his achievements are he is not naturally inclined to value them accurately if at all. Seeing Sonic and becoming friends with him has inspired Tails to try to be more confident in himself, realizing that he can be cool, and that his quirks are not something to be ashamed of. Tails was already having solo adventures (as seen in Tails Adventures for example) before he even met Sonic, even if Tails doesn't think highly of those adventures
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>>585204719
NTA but there is one of Sonic. I scrolled past it, though, so I can't find it again. It was a day or two ago.
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>>585205106
Can you please point to where I did that.
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>>585204705
> "Tails and Classic is a story about Tails adventuring with *a* Sonic and getting his mojo back"
Not only is this not the issue I had with it, but even if this was what it was going for, it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t excuse what needed to happen beforehand to make it a possibility in the first place. Regressing the character just to have him get back to the same place he started is not a good or interesting idea, even if it’s executed well (which it wasn’t). If he learned something completely new from the experience and ended up better than he started, that would at least make sense. But he fucking doesn’t. He gets nothing from it that he hasn’t gotten before. The humiliation ritual was for nothing
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>>585204749
I HAVE read it, though.
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>>585205297
you will never be happy with tails
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Never call me a tailsfag ever again
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I see a bunch of fakefags and JP purists trying to destroy Tails's reputation, so I'm going to fix it

Miles Tails Prower:
>defeated Chaos 4 with help from sonic and knuckles
>recreated a chaos emerald that can do the same things as a real one
>cured the metal virus
>Defeated Shadow in Sonic battle
>defeated the metarex with a weapon he created
>dated and married a literal supermodel celebrity
>dated an alien princess
>still got a girlfriend with sega mandates zooey
>was proven to be able to destroy the universe if he got mad and become a universe level threat
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>>585205392
I was literally happy with Tails in the early-mid 2000s. Current Tails is a regression from that, and should not be accepted by anyone
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You sick fucks
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Sonic moments like this
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>>585205416
>FEATSFEATSFEATSFEATS
never beating the hyperchad allegations Gohanbro
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>another crashout over Krack for half the thread
Whatever happened to those filters that were supposed to be used?
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>>585204150
>I don't like what Ian did with him in Frontiers, it just felt like a meta apology that went absolutely nowhere
You're right about it going nowhere, but I don't mind that part. It's nice to see Sonic recognize him and praise him. What I'm more bothered by is what they say next, which I think is in contrast to what he was saying at first. The first part is kept in the Japanese, but everything after is altered in a way which I think fits a lot better. The English version also ends with an empty promise of a life changing off screen adventure that's never happening, and that if it did would be upsetting because, first off, I don't think Tails' character needs to be forcefully changed like the English version says, and second, off screen development is lame. Again, in English this is fixed by simply keeping the status quo of Tails being reminded of who he is and his achievements, and promising to continue to do his best like he always has before. To me English Frontiers reads like it's cheapening his achievements and throwing away his actual character to replace it with something "better"

>We just need better writers in general, all of the characters would benefit from it.
Not just writers, they need to completely reorganize how they write stories. Their 2010 US/Japan back and forth US localization finalized approach does not work at all and leads to several limitations in how the story is presented
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>>585201082
Xenoblade only got localized in english via the UK through fan petition. When it finally did, a lot of Americans complained about it "being british".
This complaint got extra loud with the sequel compared to XB1, which had a more niche fan driven supported release by comparison, since it chose to keep the voice direction from the first game, but was reaching a wider audience due to Smash Bros boosting the series exposure on top of being on the Switch.
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Everything that I have praise the Lord
Worship Christ with the best of your portions
I know I won't forget all that he's done
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>>585205584
More like krack samefagging for the 100th time to make the whole thread about herself
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>>585205416
This kind of posting seems like a falseflag, Tails fans were reasonable when posting previously and criticized Forces Tails without trying to treat him like a Dragon Ball powerscaling debate.
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>>585205589
The only mistake Ian made was legitimizing the past ooc behavior. Ideally, the writers would just ignore it ever happened and write Tails as he should’ve been all along. But if they NEEDED to force the idea of “canon” and that all the mainline game events actually did happen, then Ian’s approach was actually necessary
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>>585204741
Eh, I think he's right about Tails not believing Sonic is dead at all. That really is what the JP says. But even if you could "technically" argue the SA1/SA2 scenes don't really apply to Forces' scenario, it doesn't make the scene *good*. Usually IC = good, but it's possible for an IC scene to just be a bad narrative choice. Nobody should be going "Yeah we should make Forces Tails the default", nobody likes it, but we shouldn't be misconstruing Tails' past actions either. Idk if that makes sense.
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>>585205862
He's WILDLY INCONSISTENT!
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>>585205690
>>585205584
Can you actually explain clearly what she did that makes you dislike her so much? This conversation repeats itself in cycles every day. Is there a way for you to move on from this?
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>>585205862
I would still take issue with the life changing off screen adventure if the script didn't acknowledge Forces
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You don't need to legitimize your like for a character or characters to feel validated in your feelings. I find these conversations wholly unproductive so I don't even bother engaging. Some of you need to learn that if you just don't respond then they'll drop it because they're not getting the attention they want.
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>>585205589
A very reasonable stance. We'll have to wait and see as to what they'll do for the next game.
>Their 2010 US/Japan back and forth US localization finalized approach does not work at all and leads to several limitations in how the story is presented
Frontiers is a particularly baffling example, weren't the Japanese version changes done by Kishimoto? It's weird to see the director be responsible for manually rewriting the script, instead of doing something about the issues it had prior to the English script being finalized.
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>>585206164
So it's okay if my favorite character is Belle?
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>>585206056
He can't even prove it's Krack posting, don't ask him to prove that she did anything.
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>>585206125
The “offscreen” part would be the only issue. If it set up an actual Tails adventure (no pun) that we got to see, I’d be all for it
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>>585206164
Your character HAS to whoop everyones ass or they’re not a real character and you suck in real life!
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>>585206252
Yes that's correct not Krack!
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>>585206247
Idk why it would but sure. I don't know why you'd let strangers on the internet influence what you do and don't like. That said if you share your opinion publicly then expect others to comment on it.
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>>585199660
The Tailscel does not care about Tails or his story or it making sense. He only cares about making sure Tails' resume has more meme feats.
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>>585206305
Thanks, schizo. I knew you'd come around.
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Are we really supposed to get mad someone called the comics ooc? They are. She isn't even the only person to point that out.
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>>585205032
>>585206378
Stfu bot
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>>585194805
Hello Kitty for Boys was supposed to be a derogatory term for the dumbing down and baby-fication of the franchise, not a prophecy from 2024!
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>>585205932
It does make sense, but that's why whoever is behind that post, is unreasonable. Whenever someone tried to discuss this, the response was acting like the points brought (the SA2 thing, Tails only facing Chaos 4 with others) are some kind of gotcha and make Forces Tails an unquestionable depiction.
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>>585206452
I can't believe Bioware is closed today. Something needs to be done.
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There isn't any other namefag here that receives this much simping and posters actively telling others what goes through Krack's mind or what you should believe about her, not even questioning whether she's really an honest poster (she isn't). Krack fuck off, stop samefagging.
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My feats are better than everyone elses on here so you should all listen to me.
Feats:
>9 inch dick
>6 foot 8 inches standing
>220lbs of less than 5% fat
>Can bench press your mom (previously thought to be physically impossible)
>Has a job above minimum wage
>Has never even seen a pussy before in his life
I could solo the entire Sonicverse.
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>>585206056
That one posting is saying people are still seething about her despite proclaiming days ago that they'll use filters to tune her out. But it looks like that was a load of crap.
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>>585206378
Forces Tails is a shit story that does not make sense
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>>585206257
It's half the issue, to me. The other half is the implication that Tails needs to change in order to be a likeable character. He already had a solo adventure, it is the earliest thing in his timeline. He doesn't need to change for that to happen. Even Sonic Adventure, I don't think it's him "changing". It's him showing who he is and how he reacts to certain situations. English Frontiers goes on and on about how he needs to change, and says that is the reason he should have a solo adventure, because that's what would make him likeable. But I already like Tails. He should have another solo adventure because he is likeable
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>>585206432
For as much Sonic Team dicksucking as there is that happens here, you'd think their comments on how off all of the 90s cartoons and comics were would actually mean something, but there's one schizo who will always derail it to be about Krack.
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>>585206587
I frankly agree with most of her points on Sonic. Same with Randomfox and sometimes Sparky.
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>>585206698
I didnt say anything about Forces
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>>585206626
Can you draw human women?
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I just think the Archie comics are just kind of a niche and neat little thing.
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>>585206803
You cared enough to comment that during a discussion about Forces. You’re not slick
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>>585206626
>9 inch dick
I would like to see it.
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Someone really needs to go out of their way to write the differences between Game Sonic and Archie Sonic. Hell, do for all the Game and Archie character counterparts.
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>>585206839
No but I can draw futas.
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>>585206132
I got a lot of say of this FF, they are my fave (my second fave being Downunda one). For starters;
• Augustus a handsomeeeeeee and I think he looks much better like that, with a pompous circled body up like that.
• Flip a cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
• Guntiver a cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeee too (and one I headcanon as father to Gadget).
• I have porn of Rotor on Guntiver.
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>>585206945
There would be no point in doing it since one side (Archie) will get mad
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>>585206890
The post was in response to a post way earlier in the thread if you cared to check.
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>>585206754
But again, the “change” is only with respect to a Tails that was previously changed for the worse. If you must legitimize those versions of Tails existing, then there needs to be change to reverse them and get back to what Tails should’ve been the whole time
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Rotorfag disgusts me. He's so disgusting.
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Sega!Shadow vs. Archie!Shadow (in a fight). Who wins?
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You guys ever notice that Tailsfags get the brunt of the bullying meanwhile both the Kitfag and Fionafag get no pushback whatsoever even though both of them have bene caught redhanded straight up antagonizing and instigating offsite drama and didn't even bother to say sorry?
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>>585207105
That you repeated twice during a discussion about Forces…
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>>585207125
I think that's backwards, and the approach itself should be reconsidered in that case. Whether that approach is the English writer's choice or SEGA's, it is interesting that Kishimoto's rewrites indicate that Sonic Team didn't seem to agree to it.
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It's because she's a woman. Duofag spent Christmas generating porn of her OC and calling it his wife just because she called his ships OOC. Slashy and Violet seethe because she won't accept trans ideology. Archiefags cry because they can't accept that Archie is ooc dogshit. Someone keeps trying to drag Scribbles in to make him hate her even though he said he doesn't care. It's just a bunch of SOAfags who worship the lore team getting mad because a woman doesn't align with their beliefs.
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>>585206945
The problem with doing this is you can't do that simply by listing off character traits like a spread sheet because then you just get swarmed by equivocating autists.

How a character is percieved is often a lot more rooted in narrative and context than just face value description.

You can say "Sonic is cocky" and then someone will go "yeah and so is Aechie Sonic so its in character" amd then they will accuse you of "thing, Japan'ing even though the characters are clearly written different in that regard because they treat reality as rhetorical.
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>>585206773
Sure thing Krack/Randomfox/Sparky.
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>>585207360
It’s because Tailsfags have the gall to criticize Japanese media. That’s apparently cardinal sin #1 here
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>>585207481
The games are IC. Archie and IDW are ooc
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>>585207241
Sonadowsis...
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>>585207360
I've realized in the past week that Fionafag is an archiefag who has been beefing with Krack in these threads for probably months while also bitching about the state of the general. They also made that seething Sonamy filter list so you can tell that all they do on here is post about Archie and fight with namefags.

I suspect the Kitfag is one of the Sonurge shitters because he almost always starts posting after spam of that is done.
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>>585207405
It sounds to me like she's the problem.
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>>585207364
Because it had a typo?
Even then, what would it being repeated prove?
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>>585207562
>The games are IC
Not for Tails
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>>585207481
People on here literally criticized the Japanese version of Tails Adventure saying it makes no sense to happen before Sonic meets Tails. Its the Tailscel defending it.
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>>585207360
Both of them are known to be shitposters now, there's no reason for other shitposters to target them.
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>>585207598
I was going to ignore the poor bait posts, but Kitfag isn't related to the Sonurge spammer (who seems more likely to be a singular entity than not) and doesn't act like him. I think it's more concerning that someone keeps sending a bunch of bait posts in a row every now and then.
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Way too obvious on your samefagging, Krack.
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>>585206056
You're not gonna get a straight answer out of him. It's easy to tell who's behind most of it nowadays via typing style and other quirks. Most of the hate isn't about my post quality. Three do it over politics, two over shipping, I know a couple do it over purism or gender.
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>>585207816
I can tell from this post lol 585207845
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>>585207815
I find it highly suspicious that whenever the Sonurge shit happens in the thread the guy always, literally ALWAYS pops up directly afterwards. Like he got his shitposting out of his system so he'll post inoffensive stuff afterwards and act innocent. You can call me a schizo but Fionafag literally did this exact fucking behavior for months. In fact this is a very common behavioral pattern on here. Shit up the thread completely for hours and then when they're burnt out on it, change posting pattern and habits and play dumb.
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I wonder why a fan of a Preboot Archie character would seethe all the time about a JPfag
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>>585207759
There are more people here defending Forces Tails
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>>585207816
Way too obvious on your poorly drawn human women, Evan Stanley
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What happened to the filter?
>>585206567
I think they might just be baiting you, I'm sorry to say. I've seen people say they're purposely baiting Tailsfags, and what gets them riled up more than saying Forces Tails is epic? I know it's tempting to debate them, but they're probably just trying to waste your time.
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>>585207360
>>585207598
>Tailsfags get the brunt of the bullying
You mean the one who keeps talking about Forces, or do you mean Sparky? Either way, that's only two posters out of several.

>Fionafag
There are at least two. The most active one just makes random pessimistic shitposts without giving them much (or any) thought, and often brings up politics. He's an Archiefag who hates the games and particularly SA2, but likes Krack because he seemingly agrees with her on some politics, or so he thinks at least. I've never seen them fight. Maybe you meant another Fiona poster I don't keep my eyes on, but I doubt it's anything as serious as you make it out to be

>the Kitfag
This is definitive proof that you're just making shit up to start drama. The KitKING never gets into fights with anyone
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>>585208006
I don't think Kitfag only appears specifically after that, and the Sonurge spam never focuses on Surge or Kit as characters and is more about fighting Sonamy fans that usually aren't even around, while Kitfag seems to post Kit out of a liking for the character and sometimes includes Surge too. I will take what you said into consideration, though.
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>>585208306
Filter’s working fine for me
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The Sonurge hate here is forced. Besties keep accusing us of things we never did.
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>He's here
Now it makes sense
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>>585208575
It’s funny how besties start shit and then act all innocent
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>>585208306
>I think they might just be baiting you, I'm sorry to say.
I did consider that. It's grim to see how many characters get shitposted through methods like that just to rile up characterfags, Silver and Blaze discussion is sometimes nearly impossible due to some spammers.
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>>585208713
This picture is amazing. Why is enemies to lovers so beautiful? I can't wait for the next Surge arc in IDW.
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>>585208713
Why is Draco Malfoy a girl?
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https://youtu.be/dK45MaPlJ2A?is=TozN-sHWss2wUJaR
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Your ships are stupid. "I want a crazy bitch who tried to kill me!" No you don't.
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Sonurge haters can’t distinguish reality from fiction. They’ll never be loved.
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why is that man eating shit?
that's not any shit, that's IDW Sonic
But that's shit! why the fuck would someone consume shit?
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>sonurgefags think Ian Flynn is a great writer
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>>585179482
So, why is Duo is now spamming AI female tails instead of surge?
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>>585209170
>sonurgefag"s"
>thinking
You really tried to sneak those in there, huh Sonurgefag?
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It all started with one pic
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>>585209336
It all starts with this... a stupid shitpost containing unlimited autism
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>>585209304
nta we are at least 5 on sthg
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>>585208713
When you look at Jean's behavior in the capeman movie you can tell that Duofag just has a fantasy in his mind where Krack is his enemy wo he battles with until she realizes she was wrong and becomes his submissive tsundere wife who wants to follow him like a leader. Spiderman, Sonic, and Malfoid-fanon harry potter are all self inserts in his revenge sex housewife fantasy where he gets to beat Surge/Malfoid/Jean AKA Krack up until she turns into his sex puppet who bakes cookies for him in a naked apron.
It was never about Sonic. Sonic is just a vehicle for this perverted fantasy. Look at how all of his pictures always have Surge as this embarrassed shy little bashful blushing tsundere whenever Sonic's around?


Men, have you ever been in love? Do you remember how often you thought about that girl? Now look how much he thinks of her.
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>>585209170
If Ian Flynn is such a great writer ,why does Drogune have virtually no audience?
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>>585209462
>When you look at Jean's behavior in the capeman movie
I don't even need to look at that, seeing his behavior in here for even just a single day was enough to notice all of that
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>>585209462
TRUKE
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Nobody wants to fuck you Krack, except maybe Violet.
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>>585208993
Malfoid, its a trend rn like Bowsette
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>>585209462
1000% correct post
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>>585209472
Exactly.
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>>585209462
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REAL SAMEFAGGING HOURS
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>>585209462
The idea is gross, so you're saying he's projecting this fantasy onto the characters?
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Yes, I love you krack
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>>585209975
Literally just admitted it early on lmao
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Why is it a problem that Duofag wants to fuck Krack? Dont most of us want to?
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Normalize fucking the Shadowfoid
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>>585210192
>>585210162
>>585209975
>>585209873
>>585209687
>>585209670
>>585209462
I repeat, in no history feat ever before on /sthg/ did we ever have this MUCH amount of defense force for a namefag. This is all but genuine different people and you're not fooling anyone with this.
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>>585210162
Malfoid is a literal nazi bully turned into a blushing tsundere waifu for self inserters. Duofag loves it because that's how he sees Krack.
Sonurge is mostly the same thing. He turns Surge into a pathetic damsel with his hair down who needs to "realize she was wrong all along" about Sonic and eventually just become his cocksleeve. Did you notice how many times he generates Sonic violating Surge's boundaries "until she likes it?" He imagines "taming" Krack the same way.

Peter-Jean is the latest version of his lust. Spiderman ends up put against Jean Grey. He quickly realizes she's way too strong and insanely retaliatory. She violates him and beats him so badly that he lies in the middle of the streat begging her to stop. He probably sat there thinking "This is just like me and Krack". In the end of the movie, after he finally wins and gets her to apologize, Jean is begging him not to die and crying, trying to protect him. Duo was thinking "one day I'll make Krack be like that for me".
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>>585209768
Violet has a husband.
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>>585210558
I burst out laughing at this post
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>>585210369
I hope not, women are gross
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>>585210647
Yeah, me (im sonic she is Tails)
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You start to sound like old whiney simpsons fans from the 90s/00s
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>>585210647
That won't stop him from raping Krack
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>>585210712
krack would beat the tranny in a fight
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I think I'm going to be sick
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>>585210779
Is Violet a man biologically? If so, the contrary objectively for obvious biological reasons.
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>>585210779
She's probably too fat to defend herself
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duofags fantasy is getting his face punched in by krack
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>>585209779
oh I don't use Twitter
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This chinese artist i like keeps refering to Barry as a mouse/rat repeatedly and i can’t tell if its a translation error or not and that makes it funnier
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There's an actual scene in the film where Jean breaks into Spiderman's house and makes fun of him for being a broke loser with no friends. Krack and Duofag have hated each other for three years now, she probably said something similar at least once. That activated his boner. "This was just like the time she called my Sonic AI OOC!"
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You know there's some ideas you don't have to put out into the world
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>>585211227
Maybe he means it in a derogatory way
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idw is poon toon. archie was the superior comic
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I'm starting to think Duoack is pretty hot right now, can a drawfag make some smut around it?
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>>585211463
I agree.
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>>585211495
What the fuck is wrong with you
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>>585204296
The meme ruins it
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>>585211107
Yeah man i get it i dont watch the news
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>>585211567
Are you going to draw some hot enemies to lovers smut or act like a woman?
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All romance is enemies to lovers because all women are inherently hostile to you
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I hate when Sonic artists make hot porn and then a meme ruins it
There is this fan animation of Sara riding Knuckles's cock but the artist added one piece impact frames whenever their hips collide
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>>585211463
Explain?
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>>585211676
Come to the other side where all the grass is green
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>>585211695
Post? Also why so autistic, something like that is funny and doesnt get in the way of the fap
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>>585211726
i have read the entire archie and idw up to a point before giving up around surge's arc and came to the conclusion that idw is a tranny comic and archie was superior to it in every way possible. yes even the bad parts. I'd read penders and bollers slap fight over idw dogshit for steven universe tranny
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>>585211843
I’m not lying to you when i say that i forgot homosexuals were a thing when i posted that
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What about lovers to enemies?
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>>585212015
Ken Penders without mandates:
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>>585211981
That's good or bad depending on the context
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>>585211969
>penders and bollers slap fight
That shit at least was funny, IDW's corporate conformism is just sad.
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i recall seeing this one piece of porn where amy introduces herself to some unseen dude and the first thing he does is rip her dress off. i was smirking and horny at the same time, don't necessarily recall where i saw it though. it might've been from either an SPG thread or a rare catbox link that wasn't filled with krazelf's sonadow art
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I'm starting to think I don't understand Shadow's character well enough to write him
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>>585212068
>mandates
I thought Penders's beef was lack of directions? Oh yeah, SoA mandated that Sally survived for marketing reasons.
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>>585212312
Just leave him out. It's pretty easy.
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>>585212178
kek, i just found it on trash and it was the first replay on that SPG thread
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>>585211969
Archie is better at being bad and being Sonic in name only
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>>585212379
I mean the way he writes Sally when left to his own devices
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>>585212416
cope
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>>585212437
>>585212437
>>585212437
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>>585212447
Wasn't it Bollers who wrote the slap?



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