Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9678 - Smugicole Edition==NEWS==>Discord server for some reasonhttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>585212437
*headpats your OC*
First Male character of the thread
Male bees do not:Have stingersHave yellow pattern stripes
I love Tails!>>585278061Cute boy!!!!!
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Sonic Team just puts "Unknown" or removes the sex row all together on some characters.
>>585278289No
Femboyriem
>charmy starts asking questions after puberty hits
Soon
>>585278747I'll give Rumble another chance if they put him in
>>585278406wholesome
BIG BOY
>>585277771this booru war you have with other people isn't healthy
Nb is a sign of arrested devolopment when you think about it because removing female and male dimorphism altogether would lead into looking like a kid.
Douge
YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME
>>585279448all that cum pumped inside her
A monkey AND a skunk. Her own computer and any hedgehog within miles. A human man and even a fucking dragon.
>>585279171Can we all agree that Shadouge is the real most likely ship for Shadow? This Maria psychosis the threads have been under is getting old.
>>585278061>>585278181Boys!
>>585279067The booru-forcememers are the only people who can't handle the reality that the booru is relegated to the rentry linx.
>>585278181>>585278505Tails! Tails! Tails! Tails!
>Successful game with "nonbinary" protagonist>Most well known for protagonist being a rapistWell, I guess that's the audience for this type of thing.
Have you accepted that IDW isn't that bad?
Eggman: HO HO HO time for my brilliant plan. I will hypnotize Sonic to be madly in love with Amy!
Have you accepted that Evan Stanley cannot draw human women?
>>585280778Imagine if Eggman feels a little off when he sees that Amy tried this in Sonic X
>>585280754would be better with Thrash
Have you accepted my pingas in your ass?
To the guy from the previous thread, you are literally a JP Purist. You happen to like non canon things but your entire thesis is that they aren't Sonic because they are western. That makes you a JP Purist.
>>585280374I agree with you anon
>>585279067It's on the rentry, nobody is waging war against anyone.
Have you accepted Amy is Girl Sonic?
A Sonic hentai game would sell millions.
>>585281624I miss him
>>585280406It's literally JUST the whiteboardcult.
>>585281893Are you still mad about that deleted shadow image
>>585281893>cropping my drawings:(
>>585281607Given how many of those there are, no, no they wouldn't.
>>585279171>>585280374Krack broke you
>>585282345List them
>>585282010Blue board, dragofren.But I believe booru has a fundamental problem.
>>585282413That retarded bitch broke herself. Look at her obsessively samefagging in the past threads. Now she switched her tune to say she never wanted to be an authority. She tries to force everyone to ship Shadiarrhea for years and now she is an uwu soft girl who just wants to "talk". Bitch. Nobody gives a shit about your pedoship except you. You can give up now, you lost. People are remembering that Shadouge is valid.
>>585282446Sonic ID questBabysitting CreamRosy Passion: Secret DesiresProject X: Love Potion DisasterAnd all the other ones I can't remember. None of those devs became millionaires. Hell, the pornsite that focuses on Sonic (Mobius Unleashed) is a general joke.
>>585282756Lol, did she really spend the whole night samefagging?
>>585282756Seething
>>585282848Mobius Unleashed is very cheap looking though. Also, I think anon meant officially, with a proper marketing campaign, and available in stores. I think it was also a joke.>Sonic ID quest>Rosy Passion: Secret DesiresNever heard these two.
>>585282848I only played Project X and that's hardly even a porn game itself. I mean half the fetishes in there are so hyper specific it's hard to even fap to.
>>585282756maria wonrouge lost
>>585283052>I think anon meant officiallyWouldn't make any money. If anime is any indication, you start with porn then branch out to non-porn. See Taimanin Asagi and Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha.
>>585283117Maria is dead, she was shot by GUN agents. Nobody has been able to retrieve her corpse to this day.
>>585282756Both of you take this place way too seriously lol.
>>585280374Knuxouge and Shadaria and Shadally and Shadamy are all more popular than Shitdouge
>all this screaming about spending Christmas seething at one site and group of people and other people screaning about person impersonating another person entire dayI remember how one guy spent several months in literally 72 hour sprees without any breaks shitting on a canvas because someone had the audacity to make a picture of a sea mammal.You guys are soft.
>>585283117You fucking bitch. You're pretending you never wanted to be authority after forcing Shitrea for years. You have such a huge ego you think Duofag wants to fuck you. You're fucking disgusting.
The shadougefag is so fun to trigger. He's a lolcow on /dbs/ too.
>>585283626Not as much of a lolcow as Krack, that's for sure.
>>585283582>DuofagWho? No one likes Duo in this general, no one posts pics or talks about that "character".
Mania is west OOC slop
>>585283582mad cuz bad
>She actually thinks Shadria is popular
https://youtu.be/tyQ4jhJR5E8Is this OOC for Amy?
Dougefag meltdown bread
>>585283812This. She's a freak.
Imagine being a lolcow from the depths of r9k, getting ridiculed by almost everyone on Twitter on a daily basis, having meltdowns every day about a shitty zoophilic ship and still having the audacity to call a mostly unknown anon on 4chan a lolcow while being one.
>>585284253Don't forget sperging out because a lefty YouTuber misgendered you accidentally.
Let me test something.Shadow is not Vegeta and Rouge is not Bulma.
>>585284373She spergs out over everything and invents enemies, to the point of imagining that a Sega nobody like Katie is personally targeting her ship.
Sonic and Tails!
She realizes that people know how much of a psycho bitch she is so now she's trying to spread the idea she never tries to be the authority.
CnC!
lol the shadouge guy is having a wholeass samefagging breakdown holy shit aren't you nearly 40
>half life copium againPlease stop
We all need some Classicsoul in our lives
>>585284713Yeah, he will never reproduce, that's why he's so triggered by Knouge being canon.
This thread sucks. Talk about Vectorman.
>>585284840It is a dead IP.
>>585284817They were going to give Knuckles a girlfriend. Knuxouge is a Sonic X thing
>>585279171>>585280374>>585282756>>585283190>>585283582>>585284253>>585284557Bulmafag is my favorite lol cow. All you have to do is save images of rival ships to Shadouge
My goat
>>585282649I know, I just thought it was a little funny
>>585284941Knuxouge got king and queen of hearts skins this month. They confirmed the two are going to marry. Plus Bioware is dead.
>>585285000
>>585285000Kys retard
why are shadougefags so retarded?
>>585284413Of course not. Shadow is a hedgehog with a complex past, was created to fulfill a purpose he couldn't do and has quite complicated family history and relationship with the rest of the cast. Rouge is a bat who does what she wants for thrills and hunt for rare gems and knows how to put her looks and skills in good use, but puts her personal interests aside when the higher priorities are at the stake, like her well-being.As for Vegeta and Bulma, former is super serious warrior who went from bad guy to somewhat edgy guy working with the good guys with his own methods, and the latter is a scatterbrain inventor who gave birth to the time traveling kid.Gee, chief, I dunno if I can figure this one out.
>>585285060>TrashkitAnother rare pair for collection.
This place makes me chuckle sometimes.
She loves to shill Knuxouge. She loves saying Shadouge is "okay if it's only one sided". She thinks Shadow can't love Rouge. She wants to force Shadow and Maria to be together and turn Rouge into a cuckold who longs. Fucking bitch.
>>585285236Serious answer, Year of Shadow broke their delusions that their ship was always meant to be. It's clear to anyone looking that Shadow only loves Maria, you don't need to be a namefag in order to know that.
Mania 2
Tails if he was a chud
>>585285563Tails if he was a incel.
>>585285552BOOOOO!!!!!
>>585285546Now i'm imagining shadow and maria kissing while rouge sits in the cuck chair makeup running down her face.
>>585285652Cutecel
>>585285652Rape incels.
>>585285103>Bioware is deadOh it's true!CHRONICLESFAG! STRIKE while the IRON is HOT!!TALK TO IZUKASAN IN BURBANK!!!
>>585285546>She thinks Shadow can't love Rouge.She’s right. Shadow will never love Rouge, or anyone but Maria. What she won’t accept is that Maria is fucking dead LMAO. Shadow is a forever alone incel chud
Do randomfox, duo, krack, etc understand how despised they are?
>>585285549Rouge confesses in the same game and that fucking bitch Krack spent an entire year trying to force everyone to her retarded shadeiana shit for a fucking year. Nobody is allowed to talk about Rouge's role in the story because a psycho whore bitch Krack will cry about how everyone needs to like Shitrea or else they don't like Shadow.
Certain anons have topics that trigger them into derailing the threads in anger, sometimes I falseflag as different namefags to trigger it and I laugh until my face hurts
Scribbles is our last chance to get to see Chronicles ever again
>>585286084You think you're the only one who does that?
>>585286032You don't like Shadow.
Miles!
>>585286028Yes, they’ve just deluded themselves into thinking we’re all the crazy ones instead of them
>>585286226Prower!
>>585285908One day I want to find someone I hate and then we destroy each other until we fall in love and fuck
>>585286032Rouge already loves Knuckles, the confession was platonic/sisterly.
>>585286012This is the real blackpill for all Shadowfags
>>585286084It's not that hard. If you just say you think Krack makes well-reasoned posts about the lore you'll get that one schizo accusing about a half dozen or more people of being her for at least an hour.
>>585286226Milly!
Krack ruined this general after the movie came out
>>585286359Cool boy!
>>585286028you shouldn't care about who despises who in a niche online internet community. you should have a job and contribute to society instead
>>585286412KEK you also do that? God it's so fucking funny.
>>585286438Best boys!
The games stories are bad.
>>585286383>platonic/sisterly
>>585286556Yeah!!!
>>585285387I like that ship nameonce I figure out how he fits in with Surge, Kit, and Starline I'll be drawing them together more, maybe wrap Clutch in there
All you have to do is say something like "Krack won" and he will spend the next 3 hours having a breakdown
I love little foxboys
BoC is mid.
anons, can someone explain to me why the more i look at amy's modern design, the more i get pissed off about her dress for no reason.
>>585286880>gets mad looking at something redyou are a bull
>>585286875Almost as good as foxxurs.
>>585286420Shadow will never love Rouge he would kill her without hesitation.
>>585286372>Marrying someone out of spite
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Knuckles_Heal Is the earth spirits here earth as in earth elemental or earth as in world? if someone knows the jp text
Tailschad no! You weren't supposed to post that!
Forces tails is ic
Sex with someone you used to hate is the sloppiest horniest wettest most bed breaking satisfying thing you will never experience
>>585286880Can't relate. The more I stare at it, the hornier I get.
06 is OOC
>>585286982>>585287223Sybau nigga
>>585287315Why
Why is shadouge so ooc?
>>585287263>never experience>only person I've ever hated was my abusive stepfather>he's currently got one foot in the graveThank Gaia for that.
Can blaze fly
When will have a good game after S3&K?
>>585287430What if you used a magic spell to turn him into a hot busty babe
I kinda like Starlight Zone.More than Spring Yard Zone.
>>585287623That would make the chances truly nil.
Forces Tails is ic
<333333
>>585287263I closed the door on my tsundere for blueballing me all the time, was tired of that shit man, irl tsunderes are unpleasant unreliable flipflopping crazies.
Tails is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>585287242>>585288002How bored are you
is tails fearing for his life over dark gaia's minions justified considering he's never seen them up to that point, or is it bullshit?
>>585288165I agree
>>585288050Why didn't you wait for her character arc to complete???
>>585288331wat anime
>>585286875Everyone should!>>585288304^-^
>>585288281Yes, Tails being scared of spooky monsters from underground is understandable.No, covering with bunch of civilians at the most basic bots is not.
>>585287797>Modern TripEverytime you create a Modern version of a Classic locked character or vice versa, a Sonic brand manager dies from a stroke
>>585288281It’s bullshit because he went straight to cowering and running instead of at least trying to do something first. If they overpowered him and then he ran, fine. But running off rip should never be Tails’ move
>>585288281He's scared of ghosts but he should still overcome his fears in the moment >>585288436Everyone should love Teirusu
Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge.
>>585288050I actually knew a real life tsundere in highschool. Hot and violent. She only admitted she had a crush on me when we were both adults, but she already moved on. Now I'm here arguing about Sonic with all of you.
>>585288590>classic lockedGay and retarded
Boyboyboy!
>>585288595That guy is just trying to start the Forces discussion again, "Forces is ic" failed twice so he switched to UnleashedBtw, did you see this? https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/2111470101845230029
If you guys could stop baiting for the same meltdowns and arguments we have every thread, that would be great.
>>585288623*has a thread ruining fit*
>>585288745Just like how Sega wants it
I saw an anime where the MC and the tsundere girl both take too long to understand each other and it results in them both dying. I don't remember what it was called but she had pink hair.
I saw an anime where the MC was a blue hedgehog and he fell into this kid's pool at night and they became friends
>>585288836Yeah I saw it. Pretty neat. I guess he was just drawing whatever lol. We knew that Sonic Team members were still drawing with the Classic designs internally >That guy is just trying to start the Forces discussion again, "Forces is ic" failed twice so he switched to UnleashedLame
>>585289129I want to see more of Iizuka's concept art. His City Escape level design documents are pretty interesting too
>>585289083Honestly bro even as a kid that scene in Sonic X EP 1 looked like they were about to make out lol
>>585289040STK
>>585289276More concept art is always betterIt was weird that he gave Tails those bunny like ears. If that was even Tails I'm not sure
>>585288836>>585289129so Sonic Team at the time just treated classic as just an artstyle?Boy how times has changed
>>585288431That is Chivarly of a Failed KnightSome recommendations for people who love tsundere hatred to love arcs:>ranma>anohana>kamisama kiss>Charlotte (this one is the best)
>>585289129The classic metal reference art thrown around was dated 2005 too
>>585289369SonamyTailazeKnuxeam?
>>585289603>Chivarly of a Failed KnightI hope there's a manga.
>>585289603Anohana had that? i watched it years ago around its first release and it wasn't something i especially liked so i forgot about the plot
>>585289532They used classic in concept art supposedly because it was easier to draw but I don't know where they said that specifically. And they never properly used the designs outside of those papers
>>585289776The red head girl is a bargain bin tsundere who remembers she loves the protagonist after playing pokemon with him
>>585289712Tails is cream, but tails doesn't ship in the games.
>>585289853Anaru is only for anaru, not love.
HIM
>>585289853''Nokemon'' Yeah, i wouldn't consider that haters to lovers exactly.Jintan loved menma from what i remember, but she is too dead.
So when is Sage gonna get some Ueakawa graffiti art?They still make new ones
Do you think that Maria died a virgin, or did that Gun soldier have some fun with her ass before she died?
Sontails is the only official ship.
Venderous world is the best tsundere show but people dont give it a chance because the guy is the tsundere
>>585289369>Replacing Rouge with shitazeIn your dreams
>>585289276>Tails>With fangs>And expressive earsKino.
She cant keep getting away with this!
>>585289929Tails SHOULD be Cream, but somehow Sega forgot the part where they shit her with him.
>>585290164I mean Blaze is more of a r63 knuckles than rouge is
>>585290181Tails isn't a girl
>>585290116How do you feel about Ken Penders being one of the first people to realize this?
>>585290181Lettuce should stick to futa vanilla porn instead of whatever this is
Technically speaking, there is nothing stopping Sega from bringing Werehog back. The same way Infinite can use a gaian item to store energy, it can create the same energy that turned Sonic into a wolf, you don't need to wake up Chip for that. Make this the plot of the next game, please and thank you
>>585290198I don't think they intended cream to be a shipping character. Taiream is mostly patternfagging than intendedeven knuxouge is kind of forgotten too only sonamy is a thing and maybe silvaze when it's time to write sonic channel stories.
>>585290198>shit*ship
>>585289306That's funnyWell Chris did want Sonic all to himself>>585289493I didn't even consider that. I don't think those are Sonic and Tails
>>585290320It's obvious to anyone who loves Sonic and by virtue also loves Tails.
>>585290198>shit her with himLolIdk the only time they tried to sort of hint at something was that Sega LATAM post but I don't think it means anything >>585290116Tailschad...
>/sthg/: I think shipping sucks and shippers have mental illness>thread currently neck deep in ship posts and no one's complainingSo which is it...?
Blazesisters, i thought you told me she's better than Shirubah and that he needs her...
>>585290391I just want to see bug buff boy humping other buff boys.
>>585290391Why would anyone want the Werehog back
>>585290469>tfw thinking about horse cock
>>585290537Who tf would want to wear thatIt's 120% polyester
>>585290587because he's objectively Sonic best and most attractive form
>>585290469Lara Croft is just another Sonic
Mentally ill tailsspam thread
>>585290587Because he is cute
>>585290236That's retarded, Blaze is a smoothie of every character that got left outside for five weeks and shaped into an Indian girl, Rouge is literally the girl counterpart to Knuckles >>585290198
Godlike Tails thread
>>585290685NTA if only it extend to his gameplay as well.
Mentally well Tailschad thread
>>585290832Werehog gameplay is fun though
>>585290537These are bully magnets, the silver one especially
>>585290198Women aren't based as an overall species, but if there was one breed of woman who would be the furthest from cringe, it would be The Latina.
>>585290832never had an issue
>>585290391buff bodies are so good...
>the only way for archienic to actually act like sonic is if shadow's entire personality is sacrificed for a wife and kids
>>585290883Yeah!>>585290915Wonder if this indicates something
>>585290915Knouge confirmed cute and canon
Emotionally uplifting Tailsbro thread!
>>585280782Thanks for sharing.
If I ever saw a full grown man with a beard and everything wearing that pink Amy jacket I would actually laugh out loud. I wouldn't be able to stop myself.
>>585291091Shut the fuck up let people have fun
>>585290897Only the people who have their heads still stuck in 2006 would care
>>585289532We knew this already. Splitting Sonic into two different series is meta era revisionism.
Boy deserves all the love.
>>585291191Me when I get ahold of shadow
>>58529109100s sonic games were written by old men into manga made for teen girls.
>>585291091That's fine for me because I can't grow a beard
>>585291091Isn't that contributing to misandric social norms?
>>585291270Taking care of Tails
>>585291060>Wonder if this indicates somethingSega wants more options for Valentine's merch which will inadvertently give it pseudocanonical status.
Taiream is cute
>>585291252Also Sega had wanted another Sonic brand for a good while and Boom failed
>>585290897>>585290648>Blazesisters crying because of my swagger
>>585291197>>585291315>>585291373>>585291375It gives me the exact same impression as seeing a grown ass man with a MLP shirt.
>Zooey is Boom's equivalent to Cream
>>585291461I agree>>585291393Alright then
>>585291283You couldnt
>>585290915>Silver is stuck with shitaze
>>585290897Not if you're a woman wearing those, autistic geek women can wear whatever brand clothing they want without being bullied unlike men
They cute
^-^
>>585290915>>585291060>>585291393It doesn't really indicate anything, it's a LATAM post, Sonic team barely checks the american account let alone the latam one. taiream will not be a thing
>>585291613Cmon now
>>585291748Silver and Blaze are always gonna be stuck together because SoJ loves Silvaze to death
>>585291613Zooey was Boom’s anti-Fiona
>>585291856That's what I assume too, the ship is still cute
>>585291969Japanese likes silvaze but that is a LATAM post.I think SOA will likely drop silvaze while SOJ will occasionally push it for eastern audience.
>>585291393>>585291642I remember there was some official Japanese merch or something that put Sonic and Tails together for Valentine's day but I couldn't find it in the archives last time I checked. Maybe it was in 2019. Or I made it up and it never happened
>>585291393I just realized, Cream in her TailsTube sounds like she's intentionally teasing Tails with the formalities, more than usual...almost like she enjoys seeing him flustered...
>>585291856SoJ barely checking in on the SoA stuff is why we keep getting lies and misinformation
^-^>>585292193There has been plenty of merch of them together maybe you're confusing things
>>585292221SOA tried to push Sonouge and Sonaze in the en crossworlds dub.
I need more tsunderes
>>585292216Does Cream do that in the japanese version?if there is one
Cream curled up on Tails and burying her face into Tails' fluffy chest on a chilly fall night.
Its a fact that Small Horse Show x Fallout fanfictions are the greatest alternative to Archie Sonic. Epic lore, epic saga, action, violence and darkness, and themes and such. The over the top grimdark one is literally Ian run Archie Sonic, with drama, and over the top action, and superhero anime crap in it. The only difference would be the extent of how dark and serious the grimdark fallout crossover is, and it seriously goes even further with the Shonen anime style battles with explosions.
>>585292216That's a nice reading
Methinks we should some gayposting.
>>585292406>>585292427Ooc
>>585292249It's possible, but I remember it being discussed here
>>585288836Why is he a housewive
>>585278420No, Ariem comes from R.E.M. which is the state of sleep you enter when you dream>>585278350Tails being a mutant is fanon. He is just born different.>same thingNo it isn't.Charmy having a stinger is not treated as weird. Its like how the honey nut cheerios bee has one
Mania is west garbage
>>585292598a guy being able to cook doesn't make you a housewife
>>585292685What do you think a mutant is?
>>585292495
>>585292537I remember something like that too but I don't remember any proof
>>585278332Chaos is a mutated Chao ans Chao aren't divided into strict sex binaries. You can breed any chao with any other chao. They are like Digimon where they have no sex but have gender identities.
>>585292685Being born with more limbs than normal is a mutation
Sonouge belongs on the list of things that aren't actual character traits and westerners trying to force things
>>585292495No, that would be Sonamy, Shadria and Silvaze
>>585292807I think it was something simple, like a set of small icons released on Valentine's day that had hearts and stuff around them, and one had Sonic and Tails together. But it's a very vague memory at this point
>>585292685Tails is mutated. He's the only fox with two tails and was bullied for it. He was born different
>>585281258NYA but not only was that nit ehat they said, but even if it was, it wouldnt make them a purist.
Anyone who tries to research JP Sonic will just turn into a JP purist
>>585280374Dougebag....
>JP purist*jap* purist. Jap is a WWII slur, "JP" is twitter tourists outing themselves hard like "normies" does.
>>585293372Where's the good gameplay?
>>585292805>transmasc scarsgross, post a better sonknux image
>>585293372Jap purism doesn't make any sense because the characters have been portrayed differently in different Japanese media. That's like being an "American purist"
>>585293510
>>585293372I did and all I see is just a boring Hello-Kitty brand for boys with slice of life slop and nothing else.
>>585288836>Tails' ChannelThe Cojones...
>>585286032>>585286383I played Shadow Gens but did i miss something? What confession is there? Is this like when Knuckles and Rouge went on a romantic date and it was chili dogs at Sonic's birthday?
>>585293372but I like the western characters
>>585293450The funny thing is US purists exist in equal measure. We just call them Archiefags, IDWfags, etc.>>585293372I don't know if you mean to do this but you are just implying that American Sonic fans are uneducated and don't do research beyond what they know. Which makes sense.
>>585293561>the characters have been portrayed differently in different Japanese media.Wrong
>>585293561JP purists seem to think because Sonic came from Japan, everything Japan does with Sonic is "correct", and that give it more value than anything else made for the franchise.
>>585286878Finally someone sees the light. How does anyone forgive the chapter where Sonic succumbs to RinRin so Amy can get a win? Flies in the face of Unleashed
Post funny pictures
>>585293849Rouge says in a dialogue that she sounds like Amy when talking to Shadow or something
BoC is OOC
>>585284035Which part?
Every game after 06 is OOC
>>585293930It's played as an absurd joke, similar to Sonic becoming obese in an earlier chapter.
Nobody has yet to explain Westnic is any better
>>585293904>R&T SkethogCoolI can't believer we gonna see their mom.
>>585293914BoC alone proves that, which Sonic is way more of a Aosthnic than necessary, is sticking with Yuuta for who knows why and makes speeches about how he's all cool and novelty.
>>585284941>still pushing this copiumLel
i want knuckles to fuck sonic in the folded deck chair position...
Emerald, manifest boyfriend.
>>585293910>American Sonic fans are uneducated and don't do research beyond what they knowYes, if one of them researches Sonic they turn into a purists>>585294219BoC is IC, AOSTH is OOC. AOSTH Sonic is just a dudebro looking for babes
>>585294143I like how most western depictions of Sonic have a multiverse. I think it's neat.
>>585293919It does have more value because Sonic is a Japanese franchise that got raped through globalization. Not sure what's hard to understand here.
Hmmm...
>>585294219If not the games is ooc, simply as.
>>585294192I'm excited, I've missed themdidn't expect them of all characters to get their origins touched on
Sonic doesn't exist in a vacuum and the Japanese to it made (many) changes over time
>>58529445406 and Forces are japanese.
>>585294408>>585294454Hope Kintobor, Archie Shadow, IC.
>>585285549Yeah, this scene mindbroke em forever lolhttps://youtu.be/8ZK8bse3Quo?t=710
Quippy jokester Sonic originated from JapanGuy in the chair coward Tails originated from Japan Clumsy retard Knuckles originated from JapanPsycho naggy bitch Amy originated from Japan Emo edgelord Shadow originated from JapanYour favorite character’s worst OOC stereotype originated from JapanSega and Sonic Team’s incompetence is the only thing to blame for this franchise’s failings
Rouge was literally made for Knuckles
>>585293919Look at how westfags try to say "characterization doesn't matter because there are so many iterations". You just want to turn Sonic into your self insert.
>>585294698Sonic*
Characterization matters if you remove most modern stuff
I think we can all definitely agree the one thing japan shat hard on Sonic with.Silver.Seriously, no argument on this.
>>585292362All 16 English versions (subtitled) are on the Japanese channel - For some reason, they release the Japanese dubs later as separate videos instead of having multitracks (lately in bulk) and they're only up to #14 with Japanese dubs.
>>585294652The real Shadow would hate her for being a bitch wearing Maria's face and working for GUN
>>585294859What does this mean?
Anyone who reports my posts for being NSFWFuck youWhat did you think was behind that spoiler
>>585294643Yes, and?That is the source material and has more value than any adaptation will, because source material always triumphs no matter what. Even if an adaptation temporarily gets more popular than the source, time will ensure that the source is what is most remembered and cherished, and what adaptations will keep going back to for years to come is the SOURCE MATERIAL. When the movies and comics die you will still have the games. When the games end the franchise ends because it is the most important part of the franchise. That's the difference between your shitty adaptations and Sonic the Hedgehog video games. As long as games come out then Sonic will stay alive.
>>585294903Most modern additions were bad
>>585294864>Americans turn him into a generic quirk chungus cute boyNo. Silver is a key example of why western writers shit up the characters with retarded headcanons based on "archetypes".
Classic Sonic is outdated and a game like Sonic Superstars existing just proves that SEGA is incompetent.
>>585294864Nah, silver is mostly a scapegoat rather than causing any actual harm, sonic fanbase is autistic at this
>>585292216
>>585294643Frontiers too. Hell, throw in Heroes, Shad05, Lost World, Sonic 4, all the Dimpshit except Advance games, all the storybook shovelware for good measure.
>>585294685>Quippy jokester Sonic originated from JapanYes>Guy in the chair coward Tails originated from JapanKinda>Clumsy retard Knuckles originated from JapanYes >Psycho naggy bitch Amy originated from JapanNo>Emo edgelord Shadow originated from JapanYes>Your favorite character’s worst OOC stereotype originated from JapanNo>Sega and Sonic Team’s incompetence is the only thing to blame for this franchise’s failingsNo
>>585294981Forces almost killed sonic lol.
Archie was cooler under Penders than Ian Flynn. Ian stripped away all of the Sonic Adventure stuff Penders was using and set most of the issues in the same area of the acorn kingdom which was boring after a while. It really felt like he was tying Sonic down to one area.
Classic is goated and Superstars is great
>>585295109>KindaUnleashed and Colors>No X and Heroes>NoLol>NoLOL
>>585295116The movies almost killed Sonic.
>>585294816What would happen if I approached them from behind and grabbed their butts?
>>585295079No, I meant Silver alone from concept was made literally to just be Shadow 2 and be a cashgrab. He's entirely a soulless character.
>>585295339>>585294864Even if you hate Silver, the west somehow found a way to make him worse by turning him into fanon Deku
>>585295116Nope, this is propaganda to convince people that the movies are actually more important than the source material. They're not.
>>585295329no touch...
Let's all return
>>585295421>>585295290Copium.
>>585295421>>585294981Hope Kintobor, Archie Shadow, IC.
The worst JP Sonic story mogs the shit out of the best US Sonic story. The movies are shit. The comics are shit. The cartoons are shit. They're ALL shit. Americans do not understand Sonic. Americans spent decades gaslighting people against Fleetway when it's actually more IC than Archie.
>>585292792Chaos becoming Chaos due to ME exposure for example.>>585292863>>585293001Not for japanese foxesYou just wanna use the language of mutation bc youre autistic.
>>585295546The interview you always refer to doesn't actually say what you think it says.
Modern Sonic is not source material, more like a bastardization like modern simpsons.
>>585294592I actually don't know if she's gonna be their mother, but it would be fun if she was. I always felt like they needed a stable 3rd person. At any rate, it's interesting that IDW is seemingly more open to making new blobians characters within the same species of previously established characters, assuming Stinkerton is a skunk.
>>585295290>>58529542106 killed the franchise. Then it ran around as a zombie until Forces finished it off. Then the movies revived it. It’s still basically in zombie form, and the only thing that will restore it completely is good games again. But we all know that won’t happen
>>585295650Why haven't Knuckles become a mutant when he gets exposed to the Master Emerald 24/7?
Holy shiiiit>>585295650?????He was bullied. For having. Two tails That was unusual. Normal foxes in Sonic have one tail
>>585294685There isn't a single Archie comic better than Sonic Lost World in japanese. >>585295475Go away already>>585295421This. The movies don't matter that much. They don't even make as much money as the more successful games. None of the Sonic movies ever made it past a billion dollars. They promote the series but the "movies saved Sonic" is just westfags trying to force a narrative.
>>585294864There's an argument:Silver is used a lot to make them merchAnd Blaze is way worse, without her, we would've had a better Shad05 and 06 and adventure formula would still be around
>>585295709That depends on your definition of what Modern Sonic even is, cause labeling everything from SA1 to current day is Modern Sonic makes no sense when the series has changed so much since then
>>585295259It uses antiquated game design conventions that the rest of the industry has abandoned since the early 2000s at the latest. It's like the teenage larpers buying modern vinyl disks.
>>585295108>except Advance gamesAdvanced games started the Dimpshit and gave us picrel because Japan thinks its funny.
>>585295650A mutant is literally any creature born with traits the parents don't have. Tails is a mutant.
>>585293910"JP purist" is a slur made up by USshitters to begin with, and the group they labeled only exists as a reaction to them in the first place.Even back then, the growing resentment against them wasnt even about "JP purism". The so-called "JPPurists" shat on SatAM while saying AoStH was based and Nickyshit was lame.There is just a weird anto japan sentiment on the end of Westfaggotry in general.
>>585295928No it doesn't. What is antiquated however is something like SA2 mapping everything to one button lol
The next game will flop, cope.
>>585295824>Brings up Archie out of nowhere again because he can’t counter my factual statement You’re too predictable
>>585295738>06 killed the franchise.You have an extremely lenient definition of what "killing the franchise" means and nobody should listen to you. You are making a fool of yourself and nobody takes you guys seriously when you say things like this. As long as games come out then Sonic isn't dead and that's plain and simple. Otherwise, it comes down to your definition of quality which I don't agree with, because the movies are slop.
>>585296006As it should. Sonic not good.
How is he doing that
This guy is just a shill, so sad.I hope they actually pay him.
So what do we call this new schizo>spergs out over Hope>spergs out over Naugus>non-stop on spamming OOC and IC termsOOCschizo?
This is the same fag who insisted that Pocket Adventure isn't canon just because Ian said soSonic 1 made more money than the Sonic movies btw
>>585295339>I meant Silver alone from concept was made literally to just be Shadow 2No, he's a reverse light Sonic Sonic with a different architype, and a different personality, story and design>concept was made literally to just be Shadow 2That is Blaze alone.> be a cashgrabLiterally everything needs to be a cashgrab, what the fuck they need to do? make something unprofitable? >He's entirely a soulless character.He's extremely soulful because he's more popular with the worst game than shitaze who has good games.
>>585296135With AI it seems.
>>585296135Being the superior content creator
>>585296051If the movies are slop then 06 and Forces are pig horse and dog slop all mixed together then diarrhea’d in by Japanese businessmen
What is antiquated are games today relying on conventions from a game released in 1998
>>585296198Now compare movies with the latest games.
>>585295289>Unleashed and ColorsHe wasn't the guy in the chair in Unleashed or Colors, nor was he a coward in Colors.>X and HeroesShe wasn't either in Heroes and wasn't either in X.>lol>LOLThe series was screwed over by a lot of outside factors. The biggest setbacks including the Sonic X-treme fiasco, the Death of the DC, the series being rushed out the door because of Sega and Sammy and the whole Boom thing can't be just all blamed on "Sonic Team incompetence".Also Boom!Amy sucks.
>>585295917SA1 is modern in the sense that it uses the new designs for the cast that was intended to refresh and modernized the series for a new console generation.Everything since SA1 (aside from stuff intentionally evoking early 90s Sonic) has been building off of and iterating from of the vision and tone SA1 established for the new Sonic made for SA1.
>>585296259Okay? That doesn't change the fact they are the source material. You are fighting a ghost right now because I don't know what you're even arguing for or against.
>>585296157You don't care about Shadow. You hate him and want to force him away from Maria. >>585296320Westfaggot. Sonic Frontiers made almost as much as the third movie on its own. We don't need the movies.
>>585294864SticksThey almost shut down the entire franchise.
>>585288836NTA but>made after Shadow 2005not the answer I expected.
>>585295761Because Chao are specifically sensitive to stimulae. It isn't the ME so much as Chao in general being adaptable.
>>585296518Proof?
>>585296003The Mega Drive Sonic games mapping everything to one button is what defined the core mechanics of those games. Sonic Adventure 2 uses two main buttons, the jump button and the action button, as well as some helper buttons like the action window switch to select what the action button does, and the camera bumpers. Of these, the only one you can call outdated, is the camera bumpers, because they were built for the Dreamcast controller, and while that is outdated today, it was not outdated by the standards of the time, it was the latest generation SEGA controller. Recent Sonic games that don't disregard reasonable design conventions make full use of their controllers.
>>585296418>Everything since SA1 (aside from stuff intentionally evoking early 90s Sonic) has been building off of and iterating from of the vision and tone SA1 established for the new Sonic made for SA1.And you unironically believe in that kek
>>585296391He was a coward in Unleashed and a guy in the chair in Colors. He doesn’t do anything in Colors besides sit on his iPad and decode a language, that’s premium guy in the chair stuffAmy was PMS’ing all throughout X and chasing Sonic talking about forcing marriage in Heroes I included Sega as a culprit
>>585294685My favorite character is Trip and she hasn't be OOC since her debut.
Last night’s requests
>>585295928>antiquated game design conventionsPeople like you are why I can't have random battles in RPGs anymore.
>Surge in dressFuck off Duo
>>585296291The games they make now have little to nothing in common with Sonic Adventure though. Most people in this thread wish they still made Adventure games.
>>585295767>He was bullied. For having. Two tails>That was unusual. Normal foxes in Sonic have one tailTails is based on a japanese fox/kitsune.The story never says or frames his two tails as a mutation or a deformity. Just something he has that was different that got him bullied.Like having eyes that are farther appart or a larger forehead or small ears.
The only good decision the west ever made was Jason Griffith
>>585296597Yeah the classic games use one button because they have simple actions
>>585292792Duh, heenage mewtant ninga toitles, off-corse!
Mania won
>>585296631>Shade pussy leakDamn
>>585296631Once again, thank you chalkboard anon, you're very based.
>>585296418>Everything since SA1 (aside from stuff intentionally evoking early 90s Sonic) has been building off of and iterating from of the vision and tone SA1 established for the new Sonic made for SA1Everything up to Black Knight yes but 2010s onward is a different iteration of Sonic that only uses the same design
>>585295824>There isn't a single Archie comic better than Sonic Lost World in japanese.I wouldnt go that far. LW is bad even for westslop standards.
>>585296631>Daughter?Thank you, made me laugh.
>besties cry when they see surge in a dress now
>>585296432Being “source material” doesn’t exempt it from being shit, or contradicting other source material
>>585296759Robotnik is a pretty good name for an antagonistAlso giving Yuji Naka/ and Iizuka a work environment where he isn't yelled at for going overbudget allowed Sonic to become the +35 year old franchise it is.
>>585296631>ShadeDAYUM, is that safe?
>>585295967>key word>parent doesn't haveCan you prove Tails had parents and they didn't have the trait? Or that the trait didnt exist in their genetic heritage?No? Then insisting he is a mutant is headcanon.
>>585296671Good. Stick to old games if you want outdated garbage, don't hold the rest of the industry back just because you refuse to evolve.>>5852962911991 is even more outdated than 1998, so there is no point to saying this. 2024 games should use 2024 game design, not antiquated 1991 game design.
>>585296953Okay? It's still the source material and therefore has more value than adaptations and always will. Cope, I guess, or seethe, whatever you feel like doing.
>>585296752You're not disproving anything dude. "Oh the game doesn't specifically say in a literal sense that it's a mutation so it isn't". Ok he isn't a different species from those foxes that bullied him. What made him different was that he was born with an extra member>>585296745Homing attack could've been deleted ages ago
>>585297142Sonic's green wife
>>585297125Nah, I appreciate things based on quality, not based on where they come from like a tribalistic neanderthal retard
>>585297125Agree, BoC is worthless
>>585296954Robotnik is more clunky name compared to something more straight forward as Eggman
>>585297117The 1991 conventions are good though because they rely on manual work and not inhuman degrees of automation lol
>>585297327Humans are inherently tribalistic, and you are behaving tribalistic right now, just in the opposite direction, whether you like it or not.>>585297335It has less value than the games, yes. Glad we agree!
Why do twitterfags simp so much?
Blade of Courage understands what Sonic is really about
>>585297143Homing attack is still being used since it's easier to jump on enemies in 3D. Even Sonic 3D Blast had it's own homing attack before SA1
>>585297567It's ooc
>>585297352They're literally dinosaurs from 35 years ago. There is no reason to play Sonic Superstars over some old game like Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Yet nobody reads blade of slop
>>585296612>a coward in UnleashedSure>and a guy in the chair in Colors. No>He doesn’t do anything in Colors besides sit on his iPad and decode a language, that’s premium guy in the chair stuffNo it isn't. Also, he does do stuff. We just don't see most of it. He is off enjoying thr attractions and trying the food, investigating, etc.Guy in thr chair is the person off in some room communicating to you through a device and giving you updates, Intel, directions, etc. Tails is not this. Arguably Amy is in Lost World and Forces.>Amy was PMS’ing all throughout XOkay?>and chasing Sonic talking about forcing marriage in HeroesNot ehat happened but also doesn't describe what you said in previous post about being naggy or a psycho.>I included Sega as a culpritA lot of it wasn't Sega either though.
>>585297567If it truly did then Tails would be there instead of a fuckass human dork kid
tummy hurts
>>585297142I WANT TO STRIP SURGE NAKED AND FUCK HER RAW
>>585297741Sonic...
>>585296671Omg, I hate anti-randombattle spergs. Play better RPGs or use repels if all you wanna play is Pokémon ffs.
>>585297636That's because Sonic 3K is better
>>585297615Indeed, a core aspect of the original Sonic games is their simplicity, which doesn't translate into 3D without something like the Homing Attack to smooth it over.
>jrpgs>goodJapan lost
>>585297143>You're not disproving anything dudeYou claimed and insisted he is a mutant. It is not on me to disprove he is. It is on you to prove he is. That is how burden of proof works.
>>585297660“Guy in the chair” is a figure of speech, there doesn’t need to be a literal chair. If I said Jimmy Neutron Tails instead would that satisfy your semantic autism?And yeah, forcing marriage is pretty naggy and psycho. So is being extra irritable on PMS
>Jimmy NeutronHe would NOT be scared of Chaos 0. He wouldn't even be scared of perfect chaos
>>585297735Try running
>>585297786No, it's because it was made where that was the peak of game design. Today it's nothing more than a history lesson. A game like Superstars is worse because it doesn't even have that, it's just a bad copy for nostalgiafags and larpers who will never understand why the old games were good when they came out.
>>585297883that's far enough
Sonic's shitty friends are indeed shitty friends, but only some of, not all of them after S3&K.Sonic did have a really rough transition into 3D and we literally still do, but that didn't stop SA games being fun.Classicfags are 100% right about just how much important are physics and Sonic games are pretty handholdy and still suffer with scripting bullshit, but that still doesn't make them exempt from their ultimate elitism.Ian shouldn't be employed to write for Sonic games, but he can still work along other actual writers as editor or secondary writing role.I'm a Sonicfag with no black or white mindset.
>>585298025honestly that feels like a sick joke if it works, why the fuck would anyone want to run while they're in pain, fucking garbage biology
>>585298026It has more to do with Sonic Superstars having level design that's more akin to Sonic 1 and CD
Should have made Silver a female
>>585298225That's not "not having a black or white mindset", that's just being a mindless cuck who will concede to anything if people scream at you for long enough. They will not like you by the way, they'll just take the victory over humiliating you.
Just cancel all of the western comics and movies already.
>>585298465You’re making everyone cry, by posting this retarded manga
>muh westoid protestant progress narrativesNo, thing being newer than old thing doesn't make it an improved version automatically.The reverse is also trueAlso separating Classic from Modern in 98 doesnt let you arbitrarily cut off the series at a fictional golden era to "protect" the classics.Most of what Sonic did that was influential and revolutionary for the time had more to do with his character and story than just the mechanics and technology.SA1 and SA2 were more influential in that respect since SA1s dynamic camera and SA2s use of things like grinding and involved story progression and tropes were used by more and more games going forward.
>>58529842000s fags already lost
>>585298005Jimmy Neutron wouldn't be scare of Chaos because Jimmy would have been the one that both released him and accidentally made Chaos go Perfect.
>>585298420>that's just being a mindless cuck who will concede to anything if people scream at you for long enough. They will not like you by the way, they'll just take the victory over humiliating you.This describes every faction of Sonic fandom btw, not just your boogeyman.
>>585298357Nobody cares if it's trying to knock off a 1993 game more than a 1994 game. It's old larper shit regardless. There is no merit to making a game like that in 2023.
>>585298583Cindy would start complaining about how he's the one who gave him the emeralds in the first place. Acting like this adventure didn't make her horny
>modern simpsons is just as good as classic simpsons guys
>>585297907>Guy in the chair” is a figure of speechNo it isn't. You're just saying words now.> doesn’t need to be a literal chair.Good thing one was never mentioned.>Jimmy Neutron Tails instead would that satisfy your semantic autism?This isn't semantical. Also "Jimmy Neutron Tails isn't a thing the same way Vegetadow wasn't a thing.>forcing marriage is pretty naggy and psychoAre you underage and/or ESL? You very clearly don't know what any of these words mean.
>>585298525>Also separating Classic from Modern in 98 doesnt let you arbitrarily cut off the series at a fictional golden era to "protect" the classics.It's the reason they demanded it and SEGA conceded. That was not a good move on their part
>>585298710Not when people can't agree on where classic simpsons ends and modern simpsons starts
>>585298005Right? Tails would be "better" in Forces if he was MORE like Jimmy, if anything.I wouldn't prefer it, but if his metric is Tails being the guy in thr chair and a coward, that isn't Jimmy.
>>585298804S1-S8
>>585298710>simpsons>good
Jimmy literally had an action hero idol and was like "nevermind i'm cooler than this guy"
>>585298523This but whenever IDW gets posted
>>585298927Die
>>585298865And then those people only complain about that 1 episode as to why season 9 is bad as a whole
>>585298525>No, thing being newer than old thing doesn't make it an improved version automatically.>The reverse is also true>Also separating Classic from Modern in 98 doesnt let you arbitrarily cut off the series at a fictional golden era to "protect" the classics.Can you please tell Iizuka?https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/19/16333174/sonic-adventure-3-will-never-happen/>I hear people saying that they want Adventure 3, but the path that we’re on and ... Adventure 3, what fans want that to be, might not be an advancement of the series>we don’t want to take the entire series back to where it was just make people happy. We want to advance the idea of what a Sonic game is
>>585298465BoC didn't save Sonic
>>585298257Shakes the stomach acid to bring all the gas up and mix strong chemical reactions faster
>>585298225>Sonic's shitty friends are indeed shitty friends, but only some of, not all of them after S3&K.Agreed. Also, Sonic had shitty friends in the Classic era like Mighty, Ray, Bean and Bark.>Sonic did have a really rough transition into 3D and we literally still do, but that didn't stop SA games being fun.Sonic's transition to 3D was less rough than Mario's. Mario64 is overrated and plays nothing like a Mario game. >Classicfags are 100% right about just how much important are physics and Sonic games are pretty handholdy and still suffer with scripting bullshit, but that still doesn't make them exempt from their ultimate elitism.Eh, I'd say only 60% and that is me being generous. Most of what the physics did was just facilitate game feel and the flavor of automation in the game's they worship. Classicfags are like Shogo Makishima in PsychoPass getting autistic over touching the pages in a book over watching film.>Ian shouldn't be employed to write for Sonic games, but he can still work along other actual writers as editor or secondary writing role.I largely agree. Though, I am not against him doing any writing in any capacity either as long as he gets more people to wrangle him.>I'm a Sonicfag with no black or white mindset.More black & white than mine.
>>585299283BoC did save Sonic
>>585299152It was a season 8 holdover tho.
>>585299302that's stupid
>>585299337This is an actual reasonable post, unlike the cuck shit it is a reply to.
>>585298420
>>585298802Treating everything from the classic era as the "Golden Era" when everything between 95-97 was either mid or bad
>DA MOVEES SAVE SONICThe movies are the reason westshit started pouring into the games. Better off dead than zombified.
>>585299337Classic >>>>>>>>> BoC
>>585298749Holy shit you’re just being autistically literal now. I mean “gadget guy who doesn’t use any physical skills”, is that what you fucking want??? Jesus Christ Sonic fans aren’t beating the allegations
>>585299350Uwuver should really be a case study
>Mario64 is overrated and plays nothing like a Mario game. Lmao Sonicbabs
>>585299350how does this manage to have all the most generic OOC tropes in one image
>>585299649It was here since 2006,shut up
>>585298710Simpsons is a product of its time that zombified because it was made to make fun of boomer humor and conventional media tropes of the time. When those stopped being the norm, it lost direction.Maybe take the time to actually assess the media and wtf happened and ehy instead of defaulting to low resolution surface statements and comparisons.
>>585299491No, I recognize that there can be good middle ground. That's not what that post is though. See how he says shit like "They are 100% right". That's someone who has a strong position in one way or another, but pretends otherwise. This anon here >>585299337 is not like that and shows actual nuance.
>we are pokemon consumer tier now
>>585298525Eh.. Classic Sonic is basically why we have mascot platformers, Mario was the blueprint, but Sonic was the foundation everybody actually copied, and that includes mechanics (even if the copycats didn't really understand what Sonic was doing on that front). I feel like that's a little more influential than anything SA1 & 2 did.>dynamic camera...involved story progression and tropesEarlier games like OOT (same year but a few months earlier) already did that.
Ranking IDW OCs>BlackwoodCool design, memorable characterization, and the first villain in a while to actually seem truly evil>WhisperI really like her backstory and believe it could lead to a lot of good character moments if handled and written correctly. Alas, not in IDW.>Rough & TumbleTwo for one here, as they’re inseparable and basically two halves of a single coin. But they’re fun “villain of the week” bad guys akin to Team Rocket which I can’t really hate.>Megani/EnigmaKinda feels weird putting a one off villain this high up, but I really like her design and personality.>SurgeEvil clones are always hit or miss. Although she’s not as good as Scourge, I like her well enough. I don’t like the direction she’s being taken in (wanting to be good) but oh well.>KitA lot of the same with Surge. I do like how he’s cooperating with Surge’s plan by secretly becoming evil, but I feel like he could be way more than just “ACKNOWLEDGE ME SURGE!”>TangleFun, spunky, not much to say. I believe her and Whisper would greatly benefit from being separated though.>StarlineHe had a few good lines and having a villain paired with Eggman felt refreshing, but nothing stands out apart from that.>ClutchAnother “villain of the week” situation like with R&T, but not much has been done with him despite his concepts.>JewelNothing to say. Completely forgettable.>DappleSame as Jewel above. Didn’t hate her, didn’t like her. Just ok.>BelleA whatever design with a nothingburger story and no justification to keep around after that.>MimicA shapeshifter is cool and has a unique design with an animal that we’ve never gotten, but he’s badly written and someone I can’t take seriously.>LanolinShe’s the centerpiece of the whole Duo arc and the Clean Sweepstakes arc, which are horribly written. I don’t have a problem with mean and grumpy characters, but the writing with everything she’s been in has bogged her down immensely for me.
>>585299350Twitter Sonic fans create entierly new OOC headcanons without the need of a shitty comic book somehow
>>585298802NuClassic is not the Genesis era. Nor is it truly trying to be.It's existence is fine.
BoC lostMovies won
>>585299686He's right though? Mario 64 is an open sandbox games with complex controls and completely different enemy and object mechanics. It doesn't have a score system, enemies drop coins, Koopas are rare and their shells aren't thrown/kicked. Earlier games just went to point A to B, they didn't give you hints or an open castle to explore.
>>585299234Nothing Zukes says here conflicts with my post
BoC wonMovies lost
Archie Shadow is ooc and people who consider him an improvement hate Sonic
¡!
>>585300152Not in sales
>>585300032He said Adventure is outdated and not worth returning to because they evolved the series into Forces and will continue to evolve it. He left Classic Sonic out of the discussion because they treat it as a separate golden era brand. He's doing both the things you said shouldn't be done (even though they're contradictory)
If you go to this general archive in 2022 there's people claiming Shadow doesn't care about Maria anymore and saying Maria's wish is an Archie headcanon
Frontiers is bad, cry more shill.
>>585300264But in soul! :)
>>585300356Based
>>585299784>See how he says shit like "They are 100% right". You're autistic and you read all things on face value, Krack. Grow up.
>>585299558Sure>>585299576>literal>gadget guy who doesn’t use any physical skillsThat's not what Guy in the Chair or Jimmy Neutron are. Jimmy uses physical skills plenty. Often his gadgets or inventions are used specifically to enhance them as well.
>>585300520I'm not whoever that is. I read what the post said.
Imagine calling Jimmy Neutron the guy in the chair.
>>585298687Only after the brain swap episode.>>585298710Simpsons is actually a good comparison to Sonic erafaggotry because people keep extending when "golden age Simpsons" stopped (usually based on when they watched it as a kid) and its generally an argument around when the Simpsons "changed" to Modern Simpsons and whether that was the start of Zombie Simpsons or not. Homer's Enemy is the SA1 of the Simpsons while the Principal and the Pauper is 06.
>>585299902It's existence only makes me ask "why can't Modern Sonic just do that instead?" over and over
>>585300484Sonic X 2.0 is not soul.
>>585300641It's kind of horrifying that their dynamic isn't character development. Their friends just failed to fix their brains. They're literally married in the future due to a lobotomy.
>>585300652BoC is more soulful than your hollywood slop :)
>>585299816Thoughts on Luner/Soleil?
Imada is a hack
>>585300641What similarities does Homer's Enemy share with SA1?
>>585300253What'd he say in English?
>>585300865Completely forgot about them. Nothing notable either, put them between Clutch & Jewel
>>585300556The point is that Jimmy isn’t beating bad guys without his inventions. Tails should be able to, that’s how he started
Look at these Archie fans performatively attacking BOC because they hate hearing that Archie is ooc. They can't even make specific critique. They just leave short rude sentences about it.
>>585299902It only exists because people bitched about needing to go back to a certain cut off point. SA1 fans do the same thing, SA2 fans do the same thing, Rush fans do the same thing, Black Knight fans do the same thing, and more. The difference is that SEGA legitimized their nostalgiafagging by making an alternate series that pretends to start where "the golden era" left off.
>>585300605Still being autistic.
>>585294652The whole Hope Kintobor thing actually started with Archie fans complaining that she needs to be paired with Shadow, causing Randomfox to explode because that insinuates that a game character should have their Archie character dynamic
>>585301008BoC is nostalgiafaggotry too
>>585300253Is there no Spanish equivalent for "gosh"?
>>585300997Im a classichad.
Principal and the Pauper is good and tomacco episode is kino.
>>585299686Mario 64, if it was judged on the same standards that Sonic fans judge Sonic, would be considered an absolute failure of game design and betrayal to Mario game design, but because Mario was seen as "Mr. Videogame" rather than a unique type of game, 64toddlers didnt care. So they worshipped their otherwise low selling Krock reskin and made narratives about it being genius and revolutionary simply for being first in line to the 3D gold rush.2D Mario was designed around clear obstacle course gameplay around manipulating levels through bumping/breaking blocks, attrition, shell kicking, using and exploiting power ups for level traversal and combat in and combing for secrets.Mario 64 is a game where tou run around picking up trinkets for progression. The few levels actually designed more like an obstacle course are ass and and shallow by comparison.The camera is ass and the controls are shilled for hoe exploitable and jank they are, rather than how well thought out and smooth they are.Enemy design is baggage. Levels kicking you out every star is obvious padding. The levels make no sense in relation to eachother unlike Mario 3 and World and use the paintings as a crutch.Where the hell is Luigi and the power upstairs are shit, few and reduced to glorified minigames/keys for specific stars.They couldn't even figure out the goofball stomp in 3D and gave Mario bad combat moves instead that no one uses to compensate.Mario didnt truly transition to 3D until 3Dland a 2 decades later.
>>585300928According to Japan, Tails started with gadgets, then had a brief period where he didn't use them until he started relying on them again (SA2, Heroes, 06 etc.).
>>585301168It doesn't reboot the series back the series to an arbitrary cut off point the way Classic Sonic does.
>>585299784Dumbass.Both are me.>>585300520>Krack out of nowhere.Retard.
>>585299784>>585301662HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>585301127Randomfox being mistaken for [someone else] was the weirdest part of that debacle
>>585301609It brings us back to X faggotry
>>585301514TRVKE! You, sir, have won the internet. Take my updoots.
>>585300650Because Classic has an aesthetic people like. And the aesthetics carries this series.
>>585301168It's a Japanese man making a children's manga based off the movies. It's aimed at Japanese children who don't know Sonic, not older fans. The reason it resembles other Japanese media is because it's Japanese.
>>585301820>based off the movies.You WISH the movies were that good. So do I.
>>585301820OOC
"Randomfox" is right. Shadow and Hope wouldn't be friends if she met the real Shadow.
>>585222760That sounds perfect for Tails, he fits the description himself
>>585300928Wrong. Jimmy has beaten people eith jist his wits without inventions it gadgets.
BoC is not the games.It has no value.
>>585301008>onlyWrong. It exists because people like it as an addition and it's marketable. You're being an insecure loser who sees Classic as a "threat".
>>585280374Not with Shadow’s personality dragging it down.
>>585301662So? I wasn't excluding that as a possibility to begin with. I don't like people who can't think in extremes either, but I see no reason to believe that anon doesn't have some extreme positions he's trying to push. That first post looks very insincere to me. That you were unable to tell is sad, but doesn't make it any less insincere as far as I'm concerned. I find your reply to him a lot more honest and thoughtful.
men are superior
>>585301808Why can't Modern Sonic also have that aesthetic?Why should Classic Sonic claim absolute ownership over something like colorful fantastical abstract landscapes?
>>585300520>KrackWhy are you obsessed with this person and talking about him every day? It's like you want everyone to talk about him.
>>585282756You realize both of you are annoying cunts right?
>>585302285Too obvious.
But randomnigger is the one sperging out now
>>585301797I like Mario 64, but the more objective parts of his post are correct. It's a very different type of game.
>>585302387He doesn't even come to this general. There's lots of people who hate Archie shit.
>>585302165It's marketable as an "addition" (it doesn't add anything) to people who want that to be the cut off point in the first place.
>>585302468Not everyone who criticizes your company is a Archiefag
>>585301489The reality of both Sonic and the Simpsons is despite fan and critical reception, even at their "lowest" they are both high quality pieces of popular media, especially compared to their contemporaries. Plenty of people have tried to replicate what both the Simpsons and Sonic have done, and just as many people have failed.
>>585302260This, Sonic shouldn't be disallowed from using Sonic things.
>>585302468I’m sure that’s what you’d like people to think, randomfag
>>585302454You're falling for obvious bait. My man, please read the room before.
>>585301585TA retconning Sonic 2 shouldn’t count>according to Japan Found the problem
>>585296135Why do you screenshot your own posts?
>Everyone who criticizes Archie is my boogieman!
>>585301585>06Tails uses zero gadgets in that game and never even mentions doing anything involving technology. He is all about flying and throwing rings. Technology isn't a focus in Heroes either.
>>585302039You’re getting into deep cuts for a basic generalization. I promise you don’t need to do this. I watched and liked Jimmy too, you don’t need to defend his honor to me
Sonic hacking contest 2026 is now livehttps://shc.zone/
>>585301234¡Cielo! or ¡Caramba! could've worked.
Tails was scared of a fucking ferris wheel and you think he can handle Chaos 0?
>>585296631Based
>>585303487Tails wasn’t scared of Chaos 4 and you think he should be of 0?
>>585303487>ferris wheel?
Does anyone have that pic of Sonic and Surge making out while Amy watches?
>>585302260>>585302712Because Naka thought Modern Sonic should be all about LE JABRONIS as if that was how Classic Sonic was meant to be (spoilers, he wasn't). It's thanks to him we can't have any of this colorful stuff on Modern.
>>585304086Please stop being retarded.
Yuji Naka was right. The people who hate his vision don't understand Sonic.
>>585304153>nanosecond replySad!
>>585299813>Classic Sonic is basically why we have mascot platformers, Mario was the blueprint, but Sonic was the foundation everybody actually copiedI'd go a step further and say Sonic kind of was the model for character action games in general where the appeal is the fantasy of playing a character.But that isn't really about specific mechanics. The only games to truly take the mechanics of the Classics was games like Freedom Planet which started as a fan game and was overt about it.You can argue things like DK having a toll button and generally being faster comes from Sonic, but again that isn't really "mechanics". Most of what DKC took from Sonic was the idea of a too cool for school animal mascot character who was more contemporary (even though most of ehat they took was the poochie shit from SoA marketing)SA1&2 were more directly influential from a mechanics and design standpoint by comparison. SA1s camera was revolutionary for the time and its DNA can be seen in games today and SA2's use of things like rails, 3D planet gravity gimmicks and push for more dramatic serious stories very clearly influenced the genre as well in ways that are actually still felt. Even things like the use of character musical themes and having a defining musical identity with lyrical themes is something Mario is doing more of now. >Earlier games like OOT (same year but a few months earlier) already did that.No it didn't. OoT using camera sweeps in cutscenes isn't the same as SA1s dynamic camera.
>>585302231Yeah, obviously. We understood this throughout all of human history which is why they're in charge.
If you're a real naka purist doesn't that mean we have to treat ages as canon since they were canon throughout his run?
Sega should ban fangames
>>585304525will it affect games with Archie/comic characters? am I good if I just nick the art style and make vague references to the game characters?
>>585304525Mania isn't a fangame. They didn't pick the developers randomly from the street or mom's basement.
>>585304525Stop calling mania a fangame
>>585305047The only IC ships
>>585304086Modern Sonic has had colorful fantastical levels like with Heroes, Advance Trilogy, Rush and Colors. It's just not done consistently, stuff like Frontiers could have really used some more color and stylization
>>585304754>>585304830You sound like the IDWfags who complain about people calling IDW-exclusive characters OCs
>>585305047
>>585302454The less objective points I make are more about the kinds of criticisms 3D Sonic gets. Say what you will about them, but they make a much more honest attempt at translating Sonic into 3D by comparison, even if they are different.Mario 64 doesn't even try, ans because it was first, it just kind of became this "standard" for what a 3D action platform game "has to be" or "is supposed to be", which got reinforced by people playing follow the leader.Heroes is more faithful to the Classics than Mario 64 or Sunshine.Hell, Unleashed is more faithful to Classics than Mario 64 or Sunshine.You will never find something as simple as this in Mario 64, Sunshine or even Odyssey.https://youtu.be/Na8rqq47gi0?t=162
>>585304336it's not fair...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yVq-TAFGq4Hello, I'm not having a good day.
>>585305402I misinterpreted your intention. Yes, I agree 100%. It's sad people don't see this.
>>585302592That doesn't even make any sense. >>585302260Because Modern Sonic is an aesthetic. A different one. If it used the Classic aesthetic, it wouldn't be modern. Just like how nuClassic isn't Classic.
>>585305445evening Kit anon, sorry to hear you aren't doing well
>>585303070No, your generalization is just ass because you don't know what you are talking about.You just cling to buzzwords and slogans to feign intelligence and wisdom.
>>585305445Sad to hear, hope you get better soon
>>585304086Why are you making things up?
>3 months of slander
>>585305580>Because Modern Sonic is an aestheticFalse. It's a brand created in the 2010s. Each game has a different aesthetic, it's not simply "one or the other". The older games you call Classic Sonic didn't have a consistent aesthetic either. If they tale this stupid brand split to an extreme, then we do end up with what you're saying, Frontiers being the Modern aesthetic and Superstars being the Classic aesthetic. But that's stupid, limits the series, and doesn't reflect what the games you call Classic or Modern are like.
Sunflower~
>>585303061Dummy Rings Bombs are gadgets, Rouge uses them as well in Heroes.>>585303219Thanks Spanish Honey Anon>Cielo means "heavens" in Spanishneat!>caramba (a minced oath for carajo)>carajo general intensifier: fuckingoh...
>>585304475Ages are canon, yes.
>>585300921
>>585306010I'm asking about Naka purists
>>585305945Know your place, clone creature. Looking like Maria doesn't give you a free pass to his heart.
>>585305542Don't get it twisted, I do actually believe/agree with most of what I said tho. But yeah, the point was to show the kind of things people say about 3D Sonic that we treat as more objective than they are.Sonic fans are just harsher, more autistic and have higher standards for Sonic, for better or worse.
>>585305948You're being pedantic.
>>585304305>MechanicsClassic Sonic's high speed mechanics also influence other games of the time too. There were a bunch of games like these attempted to recreate early 90s Sonic's unique gameplay, even if they didn't fully understand what Classic Sonic was doing. Most of those games were obscure or didn't become long running series, stuff like Bubsy or Uniracers or Jazz Jackrabbit all pulled from the MD Sonic games. >Those don't matterThey did in the early 90s.>OOTZ targeting was OOT's dynamic camera.
>>585306026>"Oh shisssssssshhoöot...."
>>585306243Yes?
>Naka PuristI am legitimately ignorant over the differences between Naka and not Naka. What are Naka purist beliefs?
>>585307045Yes, but that's just short-lived trend chasing rather than being influential in a more substantial way.
>>585305445Rotor loves you, it's gonna be okay.
>>585307483All of the Sonic references in Scott Pilgrim are full of larp
>>585307045>Z targeting was OOT's dynamic cameraThat's not ehat a dynamic camera is. Z-Targeting was influential in its own right.
>>585307026I'm not. Neither "Classic Sonic" nor "Modern Sonic" have or have ever had a consistent aesthetic. The split didn't even exist for a long time, and even after they made it up, they still "mixed" the "two" aesthetics. If they're really separating them based on aesthetics now, that started in 2022, and it's incredibly retarded. The split was already incredibly retarded to begin with, so it would be on brand of SEGA.
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>>585307406How so? I feel in the context of the video game landscape of the 90s vs early 00s it was pretty similar.>>585307602That's fair, but then Mario did what you're describing first.
>>585307650Classic and Modern having different aesthetics in their umbrellas doesn't mean the umbrellas don't exist.Tell me where the exact point on a color wheel where red becomes blue. You can't. But that doesn't mean the colors don't exist.
>>585308060>How so? I feel in the context of the video game landscape of the 90s vs early 00s it was pretty similarBecause the things in the former are still felt to this day and had lasting impact. The latter didn't>>585308060>Mario did what you're describing first.I feel like you don't even know what is being talked about in regards to SA1s dynamic camera.
>>585308579What it does mean that there are things in between that are neither red nor blue and don't fit into either category. The Classic and Modern split is retarded, including the naming and the false narrative created around it.
Dougebros we won. Krack spent the previous thread saying she doesn't want to be the authority anymore. No more "OOC" tyranny.
>>585304186If the next open zone game doesn't have hub worlds that look like this, I'm not buying it
>>585308697> SA1s dynamic camera.Honestly, probably not. Do you have an example?
>>585308767It's okay Bulmabro, I don't need to be an authority to say that incorrect statements are incorrect. The real authority is Sonic Team.
happy halloween sthg!
>>585309203You're not the authority anymore, so you can stop pushing that "Shadouge can only be one sided" shit
>>585309307but it's the 22nd
Doge.
>>585309314Shadouge is currently only one-sided. You can make/share fanart of it being two-sided if you'd like.
>>585309610So you still think you're the authority
Yo niggas, new Mecha Sonic dev lore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z0pGtiXvgU>The internal name was always "Mecha Sonic Mk.II" as far as the designer was concerned, and he was unaware that the full name was unused until relatively recently>Considered a wholly separate robot from the original Mecha Sonic>It and the rest of the game's robots were intended to look hastily-constructed from the Death Egg crash compared to previous games' robotsInspirations, overlooked Bangai-O cameo, and more: https://segaretro.org/Interview:_Satoshi_Yokokawa_(2026-09-05)_by_Ashley_Rojas
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happy (early) halloweenhttps://files.catbox.moe/dv9nyp.webmhttps://files.catbox.moe/3alvdz.mp4
>>585309651Sonic Team and the canon games are the authority, I'm the messenger.
>>585309738I knew this game would have sex scenes
Her "friends" are going to show up and say it's wrong to warn people that she acts like this. This is how she started forcing control over as much as possible. She is obsessed with her headcanon and doesn't care about Sonic. She's going to pretend all of her head canon are Sega authority because she wants that for herself.
>>585310117Who?
No offense dude but I think you need to like book a therapy appointment or something. This isn't a normal reaction to someone telling you that something isn't actually in the games.
>>585310117what are you blabbering on about anon?
In Japan and China Sega is releasing a PS5 bundle that comes with Sonic Crossworlds Year One Edition for ChristmasHoping this will help them dominate the holiday season
Shadally porn
>>585309694Yeah that interview was cool. Lots of interesting design insights.
>>585308754>What it does mean that there are things in between that are neither red nor blue and don't fit into either category.No such thing.Purple is both
Why is Mania so dogshit?
last werewhisper riding tangle of the thread
>>585309069Red Mountain is a perfect example. The way it shifts based on specifically where you in the level in the cynematic way that it does in real time is something games still do today and SA1 pioneered that.
BoC is not canon
>>585310240FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUFUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULL'uovo basTARDoooooooooooOOOOOAaaaaaRGHH.SFBZFJJLPMFKTZ
>>585310240She's the one who needs therapy. Ever since the movie came out she kept demanding everything needs to be shadria shadria. Now more people saw how fucking crazy she is and all she can say is "Sonic Team is the authority". She still forces that Shadow and Rouge has to be one sided even though Sonic Team authority says Shadow and Maria are literally siblings. She's fucking crazy and so are you.
>>585309758So you admit you’re a shill
>>585310384Purple isn't red nor blue, and there are other colors outside of that range as well. Anyway, there are several games that don't fall neatly into the Classic-Modern binary, which has no valid reason to exist.
>>585309694I always did prefer the way Sonic he's robots looked because they looked and moved more like actual robots with thought out mechanical moment. It's a huge part of why i like Mecha so much to begin with.We always suspected and theorized that the designs were more hasty and functional because of the story context but its cool to hear it confirmed that this was actually taken into account when designing them as well.
>>585310638Who?
>>585310638Please book the appointment.
>>585310701>Purple isn't red nor blueAt what point does purple stop being purple and become red or blue?At what point does violet or burgundy stop being purple red or blue?
>>585310814There is an anon in this general who claims she loves Shadow. She is obsessed with shipping and wants Shadow to be in love with Maria all the fucking time. Shadow moving on makes her angry and she loves lying. She used to lie about what aishiteru means to force Shadria on everyone. She astroturfs the generals with her claims that Sonic Team supports her head canon and she attacks everyone who likes other ships. She keeps saying Shadouge has to be one sided and Shadow can't love Rouge. She lies to control the general.
>>585310437It's not, it's good.
>>585310951See, these questions are not a problem to me because I'm not trying to forcefully fit them into either one box or another. Unlike you, I recognize that we're talking about a spectrum.
>>585311059That's all correct though.
>>585311103Westnigger...
>>585311059I don't care, I wasn't expecting you to answer >There is an anon in this generalStopped reading there. Let him stay anonymous
>>585305945You can thank Ken Penders for that one.
>>585310457
>>585311115he should, they're a tax drain
>>585311059I love Shadow. Shadow is in love with Maria all the time. Shadow did not move on from loving Maria. Aishiteru is usually used in a romantic context. Sonic Team supports this. Shadouge is one-sided.
>>585310240Likewise.
>>585309694>It and the rest of the game's robots were intended to look hastily-constructed from the Death Egg crash compared to previous games' robotsYet ended up looking better constructed than all the other Sonic robots.
>>585310835Cute lil' 'ria.
>>585311103You hate Sonic
Ian Flynn wrote Amy like Cream and Cream like Amy in Crossworlds
>>585311486Because you want to be the authority. You want everyone here to obey you and you think people just want to fuck you because you're a narcissist. Shadow loving Rouge makes you seethe.
>>585311573:D
>>585311059Nothing in this post is correct.
Hey trolling anons from earlier, nice work. Very impressive.
Looks like that junk about filters really was just a load of horseshit. You bitches are screaming about Krack even harder now.
>>585311639I've been a fan for most of my life desu.
>>585311730I'm calm right now though. You should post fanart you like. If you want I can post some for you.
>>585311123>See, these questions are not a problem to me because I'm not trying to forcefully fit them into either one box or anotherYou are. You claimed purple is neither. That is separating it from both red and blue into distinct boxes.At what point do they become distinct seperate colors?
Krack, can you please for just one thread stop falseflagging hard and then keep replying yourself until you post yourself to fool everyone there's more than one person here that likes you
>>585311926She's a fucking narcissist bitch who thinks everyone here just wants to have sex with her. She's a fat slob who only cares about shipping. She won't listen to anyone who likes Shadouge.
>be like>like krax
>>585311872Each one is its own separate box no matter how small the difference is. Now, to be clear, this comparing of games to colors is retarded because with colors we're only comparing one variable and such a small difference is hard to notice, while games have several variables coexisting. Each game is its own box made of thousands of variables.
>>585311787It reminds me of that thing Twitter does where they tell everyone to mass-block me and then deliberately look up my posts to screenshot it and get really mad.This will probably continue every day until they get tired.
>>585311926She spent past thread complaining about telling people what she does and then she does it anyways
06 is good
Project 06*
>>585312064>Each one is its own separate box no matter how small the difference is.Okay, so which exacr points on the color wheel specifically are blue, red, maroon, violet and purple?>comparing of games to colors is retardedNot really. >because with colors we're only comparing one variable Colors have multiple variables such as hue, brightness, saturation, RGB values etc.
why is the angry shadouge guy having a breakdown now, what happened
>>585312126You literally often take screenshots of people who blocked you and talk shit on them too.
>>585312347Yes :)
>>585312347And why would you know that?
>>585312064>Each game is its own box made of thousands of variables.Are SADX and SADC and SADX on Steam the same? How about every version and rerelease of Sonic 2?
>>585312323Why are you spic and ESL?
>>585312459I don't know, why would you, why would you bring up xitter to here in the first place.
>>585312604I didn't. Who do you think you're even talking to?
The Dria fanart shall continue until morale improves.
Everyone i know who defended Japan was brown.
>>585312304>Okay, so which exacr points on the color wheel specifically are blue, red, maroon, violet and purple?It doesn't matter. They're all distinct.>Colors have multiple variables such as hue, brightness, saturation, RGB values etc.Doesn't matter. You can chain it into a few bytes. Games can take several gigabytes and that's without accounting that they're compressed. Your examples are as stupid as the split itself>>585312465This conversation originally revolved around aesthetics, and those releases have completely different aesthetics, so I think you can come to a conclusion there
>>585312634-Wind-The Castle-Lakeside-Water-
>>585309694>Yokokawa had no idea people liked Metal Sonic Mk. II so much and was appreciative of being shown fanart and Scrapnik Island
I love them a lot
Sonic Drama Central is really suspicious. He believes in the official story of FlyDubai Flight 1073, which was a hoax meant to desperately garner sympathy for Israel and boost Benjamin Netanyahu's image for the Israel elections and Sonic Drama Central also believes all Pro-Palestine activists are ultraliberals or terrorists and thinks Israel is the victim. Is he a Mossad hasbara op meant to try to shape young conservative gamers' opinion about Israel or is he just a useful idiot goycattle?
>>585313028This is a crossover that would actually make sense
>>585312748>It doesn't matter. They're all distinct.But it does. You claimed purple isn't blue or red. Are tou trying to say there is no such thing as red, blue or purple?>You can chain it into a few bytes. Games can take several gigabytes and that's without accounting that they're compressed.Wtf does this have to do with anything?"Sorry bro, your chicken is higher portion than his so we can't compare them".What?>This conversation originally revolved around aesthetics, and those releases have completely different aesthetics, so I think you can come to a conclusion thereYes and as we have established, pointing out that you can get artistically granular and claim every point on the color wheel is a different color like a decontructionist shitlicker doesn't erase the existence of the larger color umbrellas.Maroon is both a kind of red and a kind of purple. Classic and Modern having some overlap isn't the same as them not existing.
>>585313331>>585313331>>585313331
>>585313270They can also "overlap" in some ways and not in others, since we're not talking about a single color. This is dumb.
>>585313270People tell me Sonic Adventure defined Modern Sonic, but then also tell me games that look and play and sound and are written nothing like Sonic Adventure are also Modern Sonic. And if I point out that Sonic Adventure is more similar to Classic Sonic than to Sonic Frontiers, they start denying reality.
>>585312259>Be me>Pet her head>Pet her breasts>Pull down her top>Pet her bare breasts>Pet them some more>Keep on petting them>Especially her nipples>Do it until she cums>Pet her head once more>Call her a "good girl">Watch her cum a second time>Smile
>>585313397Doesn't counter the point.NuClassic isn't Classic. Drawing Modern Sonic like Junio wouldn't make it the same either.>People tell me Sonic Adventure defined Modern Sonic, but then also tell me games that look and play and sound and are written nothing like Sonic Adventure are also Modern SonicYes and Sonic CD and Sonic 3, Spinball and Sonic R are all different. So what?