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COLD BLOODED KILLERS
DRVCHII dlc and rework soon, slaves!
>>585300102Not nearly enough malice radiating from this picture
>>585300314Fake imageThe Druchii have no friends. Only victims.
>>585300428Its loli malice
>When designing the Vampire Lords, the creative team wanted to communicate the great power they possess. One way to do this was through glowing eyes, but it was also conveyed in other ways, such as “Mannfred’s powerful physique and refusal to cover those muscly arms,” says technical art director Chris Waller.Pictured: great power.
>>585300792Bit short isn't he?
>>585300792I know we hate him for the whole AoS business but Mannfred is supremely based
>>585300314By all means call me contrarian but I prefer Morathi and Supremefu to Malekith and Dreadfu.
here we go-go again
For some reason I really don't like playing Warriors of Chaos after they got their big rework years ago. It's so annoying to have to juggle shit and with the end game Nagash thing your campaign movement is so slow that it takes forever to get to where the mortarchs and stuff are, and having to position yourself in stupid places just to make sure your vassals don't take a dark fortress is annoying. Most of my problems would go away if you could just force your vassals to switch settlements around for free, it's retarded that they can refuse.>>585300314It would be neat for a buff or more interesting mechanics (especially Morathi and Malekith), but I want Bretonnia to get one too.
Khorne is generic, but I still really like His aesthetic
>>585301286Then you can expect 40k to deliver more of the same, eventually.
Nippon when?
>>585299892ah the ol' cancer kiddie pool...how far we've come
>>585301360Khorne marines fuck
Thanquol soon, friends!
ambush in a dark forest
>>585301460Marines suck.
>>585300102
the bigger they are the longer they burn
>>585301593I wonder where he is now
>>585301205I think it fine for Malekith's campaign to be vanilla. At least one campaign of each race ought to be. Might as well be his. Morathi, Hellebron and Malus could use some fine-tuning.
Is the AI able to beat the end game army ie. Nagash/Archaon's. I've brought killing bunch of chaos armies and dark fortresses while Archaon is going in the opposite direction of me. And I would hate it if someone was the one who killed him.
>>585302545Fuck no. HEs all have unique mechanics now. Especially Malekith deserves to get one for his ET relevance.
>>585303151the end game armies have huge auto resolve in their favor, if you try to use an agent action on them they have something like a 1000% reduced chance for agent actions to work and I suspect they have going on to auto resolve weight, unless you are playing on the easiest difficulty the ai can't ever win against the invasion armies
>>585300314What do they even have left to add?>City Guard>Manticore Knights (?)>Royal Hydra/Spelldrinker Hydra>Sea Drakes>Merwyrm (just give this to the coast and delves already goddam)>Incarnate Elemental of Death (also for VC and undead legions)>Manflayers (should be an RoR)>Tullaris Dreadbringer LL>Shadowblade>Hag Witch Lord (Hag Queen)It all seems to elite level and with plenty of redundancy for their roster.
>>585303525malekith being phoenix king mechanic and having both elf units
>>585300428>YWN have a Blood Dragon loli wife who is stronger than 90% of threats the world could throw at you and who trains you to be worthy of her blood kiss and keep up with her in bedLife is suffering
>>585302545I think Malekith ought to have just a bit of something to reflect him being the ultimate authority king. I'm pretty sure Tyrion has some mechanics to that effect now?
>>585303829I'm the skeleton shieldbearer, can I watch?
>>585303525I'm not a tabletop guy so i dont really care about army books and shit. All i know is DEs dont even have a movement range hero, no means to heal their dogshit monsters and they are still stuck playing wh2.Meanwhile HEs got a second unique lore with a fucking summon and heals, plus a movement range hero.
>>585303525>>City GuardLike Ship's Company but dressed in Hot Topic apparel?
>>585303996
>>585304054I think they’re either a tier about the black guard or like a lothern sea guard equivalent.>>585303605Would be cool but I’m not sure how you justify a rework for an existing lord as dlc without giving them other stuff, they could always do a free rework but CA likes money too much.>>585303996I have no idea what would justify healing their monsters unless you remade the beast master heroes/lords, but a movement range hero should definitely be added, I just wouldn’t know what to add.
>>585303525Magma Dragon.
>>585303996>dont even have a movement range heroI kinda worry for the balance of a unit that people feel like you can't play without. We did fine without them when they were an occasional boon that not every army and not every faction had.
>>585304582cool
>>585303525Beastmaster.
>>585304638Does WoC get them? I feel so fucking slow and it doesn't seem like there is a hero for them. But I also don't have some of the newest DLCs like the Khorne/Orc/Ogre one or Tides of Torment or this current one.
>>585304383>have no idea what would justify healing their monstersSome sort of a spellcaster maybe? Using lore of... hmm... healing? I'm just spitballing here.>>585304638AI gets the benefit from those heroes. They are a must have for every faction.
>>585303928Tyrion has something a bit like Karl's machinations, but without the upgrades and such that Karl has. I suppose the DE equivalent would be if they could somehow spend loyalty as a currency to make factions do stuff. But that immediately hits a snag when factions disappear off the map over the course of a campaign.
>>585304054They are mixed spears and crossbow unit.So, Lothern Sea Guard(evil for an elf).
>>585304752They already have both a lord and a hero version.
>>585304947WoC do not, just scouting (the 5 chaos sorcerer variants) and training (all 5 exalted hero variants)I think valkia gets some special movement bonuses from fights though.>>585305148>AI gets the benefit from those heroes. They are a must have for every faction.Most factions don't have 'em and do fine.
I have played tww3 for +1000 hours but haven't played much with mods because the "modded" tag that save files get.which are the must have mods that ONLY fix things?No content mods, just fixes that CA is to stupid/lazy to do.No matter If they are made with AI, and preferably if they are in the workshop.
>>585303829She's a Von Carstein on Team Mannfred, you can tell by the squiggly dragon.
>>585305461High Elves didn't even get Sea Patrol (Lothern Sea Guard with sword or Shadow Warriors dressed as Lothern Sea Guard)
>>585305554>Most factionsBro its not 2023. The only factions that dont have those are Brets, WoC(which will get it) and Dark Elfs. Even fucking Greenskins got those. A waagh army with movement hero is stuff of nightmares, since waaghs dont even slow your armies down.
>>585303525>>Tullaris Dreadbringer LLEither make him recruitable through the tech tree or just make him a LH for Hellebron, it'd be a hassle to try to develop her goon into a whole new faction.>>Hag Witch Lord (Hag Queen)I keep forgetting they don't have one of those. Feels like it should have been added all the way back with Hellebron herself.
crossfire funny gas
>>585301373Right after they overhaul Bretonnia and sieges bro hold the line
>>585305876>Lothern Sea Guard with swordWell you see the good people at CA diagnosed that what the army ACTUALLY needed was this.
>>585306386High Elves needed their own BleakswordsIt also does not make sense that they don't have a sword wielding LSG, spears don't work in ships unless they're hunting giant monsters
it's all gone down the drain
I haven't been in the loop for a while but are those tiger units that the chink lord gets OP? They seem to just shred everything
>>585307097they are OP and annoying as fuck. incredibly fast anime tier movement and charge, funky animations and to top it all, invisibility if you aren't literally in their face. absolute cancer. I autoresolve every time. worse shit to add in the game in a long time.
>>585307453>invisibility if you aren't literally in their faceThey did this fucking shit again?
>>585307653THE DRAGON (tiger) CALLS
>>585307097Pay2win because Cathay doesn't have any real DLC yet and they did a solid frontline
>>585305524No.We only have the Lord variant (from Shadow & the Blade DLC), we don't have the Hero version.
His silence is... Defeaning...
>>585307453Okay, that's what I thought. It's definitely annoying as fuck to fight them but I wasn't sure if I just sucked at WoC because late game they just destroyed everything and it was my first time playing very hard on them. I just quit that campaign because between them and Nagash end game it was going to be a slog. It feels like WoC get cucked hard by Nagash late game because he gets buffs on regions razed so getting souls is harder.idk I always feel resource starved on WoC in general now, playing Neferata and then going to them is night and day
>>585306647>neededPeople use this word a lot and they were literally fine without them.That said Lothern Sea Guard have always not made any sense, spears + bows are like the world's most unwieldy combination and the last thing you'd want to have to carry around on a boat.
>>585307097t2 ones arent anything special but stalking ones are fucking bullshit OP and anti large ones have 40 ma for some fucking reason.
>>585306386many people were crying for a sword & shield unit for years (the one exclusive to Eltharion obviously does not count).
I get that it's the end times and all that, but this stat bloat is tiresome. It just makes me want to autoresolve everything because I have to cheese the fuck out of battles with ranged and spells. My shitty rats cannot fight this head on and expect good results.
>>585308314>many people were crying for a sword & shield unit for yearsWhySpears are objectively better because you just want your low tier trash to line hold anyway
@Claude!Expands the Bretonnia units roster, no foot-knighs, no churl units, no mistakes!
She deserves more.
>>585308572the cum of human men keeps her rejuvenated. but she needs more and more, a tub each day or it won't hold.
>YES. I main Imperium, how do you know?
>boot up tw wh3>intro video has this nails on a chalkboard "REEEEeEeeeeeeee" sound that players over and overseriously what the fuck were they thinking with that
>>585308503You don't understand bro we NEED dwarf cavalry, sylvannian artillery, empire Chosen and Jade Warrior (Dual Axes) (Fast (For a chinaman)). Game is unplayable without it.>>585308740You can turn it off in options iirc
>fighting skyre>blink>get nukedSuch tactical gameplay
the pirate deck gunner and handgunners are literally broken. 2 salvos melt a 10k HP + shield verminlord in less than 2 seconds, without an exaggeration. idk if it's secret nagash juice or something but it was never like this before.
>40kWill the AI continue to effortlessly evade artillery fire like in WH3?
>>585303525This guy actually has a pretty good breakdown of what’s left.https://youtu.be/Fn0yltgk7N0?is=ObQIcBdmCw60X6Er>LL: Anethra with her husband Duriath (function like Vlad and Isabella so Duriath could be an LL or LH)>Tullaris as an LH>Shadowblade as an LH>Sorceress Lords and Heroes with the missing lores of Metal, Life, Light, and Heavens which they had in the table top>Hag Queen Lords and/or Disciples of Khaine as generic lords>Black Ark Beast Slaver and Doomfire Warlock Master as generic heroes>Sea Dragon as the center piece big unit (possibly with a chariot or boat thing on its back)>Helldrakes, mini sea dragons would have multiples in one unit, could also be mount options>Helldrake tamers, whip infantry with a bound net spell or ability>Black ark reavers, more elite corsairs>City guard, dark elf lothern sea guard essentially>Sky reaper, a smaller reaver claw (probably could just be skipped as a unit)>Lords of oblivion, black drake riders either as a kind of legendary unit or regiment of renown>Pagowyrms which would just be a merwyrm reskin>Hydra variants; veteran war Hydra, spell drinker Hydra, royal hydras>manticore knights>farting bull monsters>Avatars of Khaine>Malethii, essentially dark elf spirit hosts ethereal units>Rephalim, banshee equivalents for dark elves >Add a phoenix king campaign mechanic and maybe end game scenario with Malekith>Add a far east Sword of Khaine/Nemesis Crown equivalent in the form of the White Sistrum>Excuse to open up more of Khuresh/Ind/ or the far eastern elf coloniesIt’s kino.
>>585306386Personally I'm just curious why they didn't add the Storm Weaver. They could have simply added a new Archmage with the new lore, even. Sure the lore isn't great but I don't get why only this specific option was omitted when basically everything else was put in the DLC.
>>585308572We could have had more murderhags and sneks in TW AoS. But instead we will not get that, and the game will be unplayable.
>>585307097>>585307453>Try out cathay>So many of their units have ridiculously over the top animations with a fuck ton of invulnerability frames so they beat units with similar statsWhy though
>>585300314What is it with the Delves and golden face masks/helmets?
>>585309628They’re ugly and they know it. The cold isn’t good for their skin.
>>585308572
>>585309386>Helves getting 2 Lords in the DLC
>>585309620must please chinese market
>>585308774>sylvannian artilleryWould have been cool if the bloodline raised the unit cap of vargheists, drakenhof templars, black coaches, or I don't know what. Adding skills and techs and panels and buttons and buildings for missile infantry in VC feels bad and wrong.
>>585308572I basically never play in the Naggaroth corner of the map. What does she even do every game besides get her lunch stolen by Valkia?
>>585310036I'd prefer templars, but since Blood Dragons are the knight faction, making it vargheists or varghulfs would make far more sense.
Do I just lose out on Kholek if I get the Norcan Vassal?
>>585310976If you confederate I'm 90% sure you also get the vassal too. Always confederate when you have the chance.
>>585310976>>585301205Hey pro tip, a really helpful bit of advice; pretty sure that as WoC you can cancel a vassalisation you got by defeating a faction's last settlement, and you don't actually get any reliability penalty for then declaring war on them afterwards.You can vassalise a faction... and then immediately change your mind about it.
>>585311068He didn't have any vassals at this pointI know the vassal will never spawn unless you pick the option. WoC vassalizations are so gay, I don't know why people were glazing CA when they added them.as a rework. I'm constantly having to bend over backwards to get it to function correctly
>>585311182How does that help if the vassal is spread out all over the place? It's nice if they only have one settlement but wouldn't that just mean that I have to have a dude in every location to wipe them out again? Seriously, fuck this vassalization shit. I hate WoC so much which sucks because they are cool in lore. I'd rather just play mono god since they don't have to deal with this shit. I don't know why people say Archeon is easy or fun when this mechanic is so fucking backwards.
>>585311068>>585311182Am I really being forced to pick between using my fucking race mechanic or getting Kholek? I can't get both?Can I at least abandon the fortress and resettle it to get a vassal?
>>585310036why would you ever want more vargheists, not even nagash makes them good
>>585308572Tullaris and/or Shadowblade LHHag Queen LordWitch Elves (Bladesingers)Khaine Golem.
Does mentor work for all heroes of the same type no matter the lore of magic or does it work for only the same lore of magic?
>>585312617Agent type.
>>585311801You are far overvaluing a single settlement norsa vassal. Also I'm reasonably sure the trigger to spawn in the vassal is if the player owns the right settlement, no matter how that happens.
>>585312731>Also I'm reasonably sure the trigger to spawn in the vassal is if the player owns the right settlementYou are wrong. I just picked confederation. You have to pick the specific option to vassalize it. Also I don't give a fuck about the vassal itself but for Archeon it gives research rate and other stuff that he needs.There is another dark fortress with the same tribe luckily but seriously this mechanic is so beyond retarded and I don't know who the fuck thought it should work like this. It would be one thing if I didn't have to fucking micromanage and run into these scenarios where it doesn't work but it keeps happening. I don't know why you can't force vassals to trade any settlement for free and why you can't just flat out relocate them for that matter. It still has to be a "touching" region which is, again, retarded.>>585312697Okay, mentor is definitely worth taking then. I was afraid it wouldn't work if I wanted a bunch of different wizards.
>>585311801>Am I really being forced to pick between using my fucking race mechanic or getting Kholek?Getting Kholek and vassalising factions are both your race mechanic! Confederation is for getting more Legendary Lords, vassalisation is for minor factions. You basically never want to vassalise a warriors of chaos faction, but you do want to vassalise norscan and daemon factions.You can't both HAVE kholek in your armies AND have kholek as a vassal, he can't be in two places at once. And if Kholek is in your armies and not in his own faction - what's the point of having his faction around instead of more loyal norscans?>>585311358I mean most of your vassals will only have a few settlements. If you cancel the vassalisation then declare war on them, you can revassalise them if they're norscans and you're taking their dark tower homeland IIRC. It's also usually easy to quickly make peace after taking the settlement you want if they like you enough, especially if you have some dumpy minor settlement to trade back to them
>>585313058Archaeon gets a bonus from vassals but you still don't have to vassalise literally every faction you come across, some of them (like WoC with LL's) it's better to do something else.>>585313058>You have to pick the specific option to vassalize itWith the strength and diplomacy bonuses you get you can also vassalise them by just getting big and strong and asking them nicely.
>>585313697>You can't both HAVE kholek in your armies AND have kholek as a vassal,That isn't what I wanted. I wanted to have kholek in my army AND get the Norscan vassal for the dark fortress, not have Kholek as the vassal. You have to pick one or the other if the vassal isn't already on the map under their control. The mechanic just makes no sense imo and I hate it. I legitimately don't see why someone wouldn't just play monogod just to not deal with this.>It's also usually easy to quickly make peace after taking the settlement you want if they like you enough, especially if you have some dumpy minor settlement to trade back to themI read that unless you specifically conquer them they can still declare independence if they get pissed enough at you, but they can't if you subjugate them. So not subjugating them can lead to massive fucking headaches later on. The more I think about this mechanic the more I hate it which is funny because it sounded cool to me at first. But it's only half functional and clunky and they are retarded.>>585314034>With the strength and diplomacy bonuses you get you can also vassalise them by just getting big and strong and asking them nicely.True but read above point. It depends on circumstances. Also some lord traits are good to have so sometimes better to not even confederate even though you need it for the short victory.
>>585314126>I wanted to have kholek in my army AND get the Norscan vassal for the dark fortressRight then, just confederate Kholek then either ask the norscans politely, conquer one settlement and trade it back to them for vassalhood, or conquer and subjugate. You want to be fighting either way, it's free XP for your troops.>I read that unless you specifically conquer them they can still declare independence if they get pissed enough at you, but they can't if you subjugate them. So not subjugating them can lead to massive fucking headaches later on.I don't thiiiiink that's true, I'm like 90% sure I've had a subjugated order faction rebel against me but that could have changed in a patch since that happened.That said, a Norscan faction isn't gonna declare independence because a norscan faction isn't gonna get pissed at you, you have a million common enemies and a million bonuses to diplomacy with them.>Also some lord traits are good to have so sometimes better to not even confederate even though you need it for the short victory.What do you mean?
>>585314616>>585314126Actually >>585310976 come to think of it I'm not actually sure what would happen if you picked the left option, since the 'vassalise' was only originally there to refer to the local norscans and was like that before they added the ability to auto-confederate chaos factions...
>>585314616>just confederate Kholek then either ask the norscans politelyThey aren't there. As a followup I just conquered the volary to try and get them to spawn and they didn't. They won't spawn is the issue. This fucking gay buggy ass mechanic.>I don't thiiiiink that's trueIt definitely happened with Neferata my last playthough where I took away that building that gave fuck loads of relations to a race since I vassalized them then they betrayed me and left. Also depends what allies you make and who you subjugate. >What do you mean?When you defeat a legendary lord you can get their defeat trait. If you confederate them you cannot get it.Honestly that is part of the reason I never like confederating lords most of the time if they have >>585314894Well I had to pick one and I picked confederate because both had very unclear wording and I wasn't really sure which one would do what. If I could have quicksaved before I picked I would have just tested them both but again faggot broken buggy mechanic and I can't even test it. At least now I know that confederation doesn't even spawn a vassal. Sometimes specifically picking to spawn the vassal doesn't spawn it, I just did it at The Volary and the Narj didn't spawn either. I think a greenskin was on their spawn space. Seriously, fuck this mechanic, why do people like it? I unironically prefer old hordes to this
>>585315132>if they havea good defeat trait
>>585315132Also another point about warriors of chaos that I hate is that it costs way too many souls to get someone to go to a path and you can't just get a monogod army going very vast
>>585315132>t definitely happened with Neferata my last playthough where I took away that building that gave fuck loads of relations to a race since I vassalized them then they betrayed me and left.The part that I didn't think was true was being immune to that via WoC subjugation.Either way, I think you're badly overestimating the importance of one more norscan vassal. They're really not that big of a deal. There are shitloads of different vassals for you to take, you'll wind up with like 20-30 of 'em.I also think that a Legendary Lord is waaaaaay more useful to have than a lord defeat trait, especially on Archaeon who is already going to be as powerful as you'll ever need him to be.>Also another point about warriors of chaos that I hate is that it costs way too many souls to get someone to go to a path and you can't just get a monogod army going very vastKill moar, you'll be swimming in souls. You don't *need* lords to be dedicated to a particular god immediately, undivided lords are perfectly good at their job. There's really no rush for you to paint everything in your army red or blue or green or purple. Though if you really can't stand to suffer the indignity of having undivided units in your army for any period of time then yeah you might prefer the monogod factions.
>>585315942>The part that I didn't think was true was being immune to that via WoC subjugation.From what I looked up on search engines it seems to be the case.>I think you're badly overestimating the importance of one more norscan vassal.You are missing the point. The point is that shit like this keeps happening and I have to autistically micromanage and shit to get them to do what I want or even interact with the mechanics on the most basic level. If the mechanics are fucking broken, why are they forcing me to use them for the center on how the race works?>I also think that a Legendary Lord is waaaaaay more useful to have than a lord defeat traitDepends and also I like to have a lot of lords. Especially with the new endgame stuff. Also part of the reason razing and shit for souls is stupid is because that also makes the end game harder. They need to make it so you can do quests or something for souls because as it stands it sucks.>You don't *need* lords to be dedicated to a particular god immediatelyYeah no shit but undivided doesn't give more lore of nurgle which is what I want for WoC, having no healing before that sucks ass
Wake up, remember I'm a CHADthay enjoyer, life is good.You anons writing essays again huh?
>>585315942Also forgot to mention that killing demons and undead give you no fucking souls so that's even gayer
>>585316271>I have to>forcing me toJust slaughter more innocents buddy! Stop worrying about it so much it's not that important!>Also part of the reason razing and shit for souls is stupid is because that also makes the end game harderEnd game isn't supposed to be easy.>having no healing before that sucks assMost factions don't have healing spells. Just don't get hit dummy!>>585316535>Also forgot to mention that killing demons and undead give you no fucking souls so that's even gayerSo slaughter more mortals!We can't serve every single thing up on a silver platter yaknow, the game is easy enough as it is, especially for WoC.
>>585316962>Just slaughter more innocents buddy! Stop worrying about it so much it's not that important!Khorne is all about this and I have no issue how with they play because their gimmick is actually funWoC is gay.
I didn't think I cared all that much for Cathay but then this track started kicking in during a difficult battle and I might be cathaypilled now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbpxFZAIfyg
When is Shogun 2 remaster coming out?
>>585318472It's shelved for good as it's too much effort to fix the disaster of a remaster
>"Men are easy, just be nice to them."
Dark Magic is a really good loreThat is all
>>585318386Cathay has a great ost.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58GbIGbeKhY
Dark is code word for African American
>>585317290Very true, xister.
>>585319092i think it is one of the worse lores, delf sorcs are hot tho. i honestly think all 8 generic winds are better, the little waaagh is worse tho
according to ancient aliens historians nagash was WEAK
>>585319164the new dwarf music is pretty L I T, when you load in it hits and you notice it keenly
the bigger the hat, the higher the authority
goofy WoW mounts
>>585321035It's a pure damage lore apart from power of darkness. It's pretty great and I would take dark over beast or metal any day, but I hate metal since I think searing doom is overrated. Beast is only good because of flock of doom. I'd take it over heaven too. It has a spell for everything regarding damage and chillwind and bladewind are cheap as fuck considering how good they are. The only bad spell is word of pain imo. Soul Stealer can rape single entities if you bunch them up, bladewind shreds infantry, is cheap, and is decent against armor, chill wind is pure anti armor, doombolt is good for a lot of things, etc. imo dark is fire but better, only thing it lacks is a buff spell but it does so much more damage for so much less cost
>>585321908I just value any lore without a buff & debuff quite low. Having a heal ranks the lore even higher for me, since it's a SEM game. Recently started playing around with damage reflection and im still not sure how good it is. I mean blowing shit up is fine and all but, AoE buffs and debuffs feel wildly stronger after the chafe phase of the game
>>585322195I've been sleeping on fire until recently because I never liked burning skull, but the fire weapon spell is borderline OPThe thing about dark which I like is that soul stealer can rape single entities if you can clump them up together. If you have one of those setups for infinite magic and have like a unit of shades hiding somewhere there is literally nothing most armies can do about you. The only weakness is flying single entities that are faster than you but that is pretty rare. Power of darkness is also just nice to get even more winds. For me it depends what buff it is. Depending on you fight some buffs and debuffs are worth a lot more, but recently I've learned that mixing fire with death can be insane. Specifically the fire passive and fire weapon group buff and soul blight can just tear any high armor units to shreds
>>585309717Nawt one Drooochi on Naggarift
>>585322563I played my first grease campaign recently, and got a new respect for fire. Now I can't get away from it. Giving all your lads magic attacks is a game changer in game3 where demons are dominating every battlefield. Kind of a strange surprise how it ended up becoming so useful seemingly unexpectedly. Anyway my favorite would have to be life or shadow. Dwellers Below is just too funny.
>>585319092Dark Magic has one good vortex spell but otherwise it kind of blows. Chill Wind is spammable but ends up doing a lot of unnecessary friendly fire and doesn't hit too hard, the buffs and debuffs are mediocre, and the wind recovery spell is probably one of the most unnecessary abilities in the game.On the other hand it looks sick as hell and the vortex prints damage
>>585322928I was used to 2 where it seemed like everything had fire resist. Ironically I used to like burning skull back then but it feels weaker in 3. A lot of things still do have resist but it seems less common and even when it is there you can mitigate it for the most part, plus it feels like even if a lot of things have it they can't stack it nearly as hard as they used to be able to do.
>>585307097They're not bad.
>>585323059Nah, generating magic reserves is probably the single best attribute in the game, no matter the cost
>>585323059Chillwind is pretty cost effective when it comes to dealing with armor since it is 100% armor piercing I think. Soul stealer is really good for single entities as well. I think dark is best when used with something else on the side for buffs/debuffs. Dark has the cheap damage spells and you can use the other for buffs/debuffs. imo death is a good pair because with soul blight you can cuck some of the armored enemies and it is an area spell
I just realized that when you bring over a caster from undivided to a monogod lore that they retain the passive they had before.Is that supposed to happen?
I think Yin magic is the best and my fav. It has amazing summons, has maul all AoE, spirit leech, projectile reflection and ap cheap spell that inflicts blinded. The blinded is one of the most powerful contact effects in the game.
>>585322913
>>585323246If you have a wizard and have over 60 reserves, you're going to kill their army before you run out of wind. It's great in multiplayer, but it's pretty worthless in campaign.>>585323262That's valid, but dark elves kind of have a hero capacity issue I find
>>585323543>That's valid, but dark elves kind of have a hero capacity issue I findI'm so used to playing Morathi so I forgot others might struggle with it because you get so much extra capacity and ranks with her. Besides Lokhir who has so many black arks he doesn't even need wizards if he doesn't want them
>>585323543>60 reservesThat isn't enough for some of the more dicey battles where magic is the only way you can win
>>585323543You are extremely bad at total war. Anon is right, generating reserves is the most powerful thing u can have because it means you only need your lord, you never lose a single entity, every battle is an instant win. With infinite reserves you can kill infinite armies without ever losing a single hitpoint.
>>585323695I suppose Morathi might be an exception yes, everyone else sort of has to find a time to build military buildings instead of eco buildings to fund their infinite black ark crusade.>>585323794Black Arks tend to make the difference up for me but yeah, some battles will need more I just find them a bit rare.
im getting constant decision paralysis with nagash
>>585324015What difficulty do you play on? There are lots of times where you literally need magic because of how hard the AI can cheat with units. I've only recently moved to very hard from hard and I need it even more than before. Especially as a way to do sieges with the enemy having a full stack on the inside too without having to have multiple armies all doing it at once.
>>585323836You functionally have infinite reserves in campaign anyway
>heroiccaught him mid reinforcements or it might've been impossible. he was already spamming these high tier single entities. had to replay it a few times before I could find a good place to snipe his shit safely.
>>585324156I play mostly on legendary and black arks do most of the work for me. Usually I'll recruit a sorceress for rebellions but it's mostly black arks, the LL, and maybe an army or two of corsairs or shades or dark shards. I will admit that it is sometimes hard to fight into artillery like this
>>585324587Curious, I haven't played a campaign where I don't rush the caster building for over a thousand hours. Honestly playing without magic seems beyond legendary. I guess I will have to adapt to your techniques though, given that 40k is looking like it plays a lot more like you do.
>>585324783I've noticed that the AI simply walks through my lines of infantry far easier and more often than they ever used to be able to.
>>585324446Uhh.. that doesn't mean you have infinite in battle.
>>585325000TRVE wizard pilled anons know that you need an infinite setup so you can waste spells and still be fine or to heal at the end of the battle with some races/lores
>>585324880the AI also cheats and ignores all low threat armies just to make a zig-zag and attack your one vulnerable shooter or artillery hiding in some deep woods like threading a needle through a haystack.
>>585325135Yeah that's happened to me several times recently. I swear they never used to act like that.
>>585324869It's only really delfs that can get away with it because black ark bombardments are an entire different level of power entity killing matched only by vortexes or a few wind spells. I've tried out playing without wizards by laziness and necessity when it comes to Skaven or Empire/Kislev, but only Delfs can really succeed with it.
>>585325075You saying there still are infinite magic tricks?I know Kairos and Blue Scribes can sometimes do it if the luck aligns and the scribes get shitloads of 1mana spells to charge the army ability to regen reserves which ends in a net plus.But I thought they removed all the others.
>>585324783it's over CA used AI to improve their in-game AI. now it's too smart and makes gigabrain moves.
>>585324456Ofc you are struggling, your army is a disaster.
>>585325372I'm having fun, and 'struggling" is part of the process. As you can see I didn't lose units. Also didn't ask about army composition critique.
>>585325212For delves the black ark bombards are kind of midUnless you lock down the enemy they can just sort of dodge it.>>585325268There are flat out items that you can do it so if you stack certain items you can do it. Like that one vampire item where you can just stack that item if you get lucky enough. I don't think they patched out all of them but I'm no expert. I just remember there was a way to get lore of death for free but I don't know if it still works. The vampire counts item is the Black Periapt, I was making 3 man wizard doomstacks with it, though I honestly could have made it 2 man with a stalk banshee and a wizard
>>585325270The perfectly coordinated envelopments with six or seven units of various kinds of cavalry is annoying but something a human player to theoretically do. A human player cannot reliably get their dogs into a single file line to slip through cracks and attack artillery.
>>585324880Nurgle blob armies just keep winning
>>585325778>A human player cannot reliably get their dogs into a single file line to slip through cracks and attack artillery.Skill issue.
>>585325556I'm not even mad that you didn't go full ranged, your army is just... it's depressing.You clearly have access to stormvermin but stuffed clanrats inside.Random lonely doomflayer for whatever reason.You have poison wind mortars but decided to mix in globadiers which just have way less range.Warp fire thrower are nice I guess..And you even have stormfiends who can wield globes, doomflayer, warpfire if you want those..And to top it all off, the scarecrow banner.
>>585325962Not that anon and haven't even looked at storm vermin since 2 but are they still way too expensive? They used to be like 1000 gold a pop which was way too much so I never used them either. Nowadays when I play skaven I just play eshin and moulder and so I still don't use them
>>585325785as a nurgle main i can confirm we are eating better than any faction in the game and have been for years
>>585325962You are blowing a gasket over my side throwaway army. Clanrats are cheap and disposable. Ever heard of reinforcements? Rats can do them in 1 turn!
>>585325595Didn't come across that item yet. Gotta go hunting for it.
>>585326116The only nurgle character I like for starting position is Epidemius but man do I like playing him.
>>585326169It's vampire counts only I think. I found like 3 in my Neferata campaign. There are a couple other similar ones for other races IIRC but not sure since I've only recently been playing again. I remember there was a setup I used to do for dark elves that was similar but it's harder to do.
>>585326053Mostly yeah, they are a meme. Even with the Verminlord Warbringer they aren't amazing.>>585326150Cheap and disposable? Anon you play THANQUOL.. you make infinite money, and it's called global recruitment, not reinforcement. I have trash armies too but those trash armies don't go into manual battle, you ram em into random shit and re-recruit.
>>585326150>Clanrats are cheap and disposableUse slaves, they are even more cheap and disposable
>>585326352>admitting to using autoplayidk nigga like just dont post if u gay like that
>>585326414I'm no slaver. My rats are all skilled workers who build the skaven national project.
>there are people who recruit the sword version of shield troopers instead of the spear versionWhy
>>585326651no, I will not teach you how to play.
>>585326484Calling auto resolve autoplay and using it as ammo is not the own you think it is.Nobody plays 100+ turn campaigns without a single auto resolve. Fighting those 5 skelly Garrison with a stacked weapons tram is nonsensical after all.
Oh no, typos. I'mma be called saar.
Even the snow is glowing green.
>>585326842your campaigns aren't authentic
>>585327165Authentic? What a word.. lets see..An authentic total war warhammer campaign would be an accurate reflection of the lore. So your armies should be 90% slaves, you should have catastrophic losses cause Thanquol always jobs and blames his underlings, you run south to get manhandled by Skarbrand for a bit, constantly beef with gotrek and felix..And lastly sit in your settlement, complete your quests and then use the master scheme to nuke every single last province on the map with comets to reflect how Thanquol threw a moon into the planet to destroy it.Are you doing that?My lore knowledge isn't great so I might have remembered something wrong.
>>585327819Well, AR isn't going anywhere ever. Even when I go back to rome the naval conflicts are all AR so it is clearly baked into the formula so you win. Nonetheless when I stopped using it I realized how much better the game was without it. I encourage you to try a campaign or two without it, see how it feels. Maybe you will come to the same conclusion as me, maybe not?
>play elspeth>turn 12>Karl already down to 1 settlement >Vlad strengh 1 at my doorstep declared war on me>Kislev died >Boris somehow has 13 settlementshelp me mighty Todbringer
>>585328329You think I've never done a campaign without AR? I've played 8888 Skarbrand campaigns and that means 4hour long turns because every single battle needs to be a manual.There is nothing better about it. It's simply annoying having to manual every single trash battle because the bloodhosts can't heal and Skarbrand needs to always stay topped off because he has 10 more battles to fight this turn.Half the fucking turn is loading screens.Since there are so many minor settlements, many battles are ramming Skarbrand in, putting the game on 3x speed and waiting for 5 minutes. Same for when a bloodhost has to take a settlement. They won't take any damage in their moshpit but it has to be done cause the AR would take 1/3rd of their life that they can't replenish.
Oh wow, someone actually fixed auto resolve and made it interesting https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3818746979By the way, autoresolve in homm games works like this too by simulating the real combat.
>>585328770What you have described sounds pleasurable to me. Maybe I'm just weird, seeing as autoplay, fast travel, etc. is a mandatory feature in the most popular games on the planet. I just like every gritty moment and interaction, monotonous or not.
>>585329356If you play total war long enough, you'll start thanking Tzeentch for every good AR you get.
Would modding out Archaon and adding Tamurkhan as an end times event where he goes to war specifically trying to bee like for Nuln be possible? It would make a for a kino campaign.
>>585329732It would be fun if you could randomize the everchosen
>>585329686I pray that I never become as jaded as you :)
>>585329732Changing Archaon to Tamurkhan in the quest battle and in the spawned army is easy. Making him run towards nuln tho.. you need someone who is really good with scripts to make that happen and you need to set manual spawn points too. And Tamurkhan would just instantly go do that and be done. >>585330032Well you are as much a weeb as me so you are halfway there.
27 RoR ranged units receive ZERO accuracy bonus over their easily comparable standard unit counterparts, despite the fact the standard units are allowed to get +27 accuracy from veterancy. 47 ranged RoR's get +23 accuracy, so still not up to that fully +27. There's some outliers with different bonuses but mostly those are unique ranged weapon types.Ignoring the outliers and special ranged weapon types for now, How should I balance this if I was going to mod it.Do I just normalize every RoR with different bonuses so it adds up to the +27 veterancy bonus? Or do I just flat add +27 to them all meaning that some of them would now have +50? Or do I give the ones with +23 a lesser bonus that would equate to something like 10 extra accuracy over its non rank 9 RoR equivalent?
>>585330535A rank 9 veteran unit is canonically a RoR that has been forged through your gameplay decisions. How those stats are slotted is up to you as a modder. Discounting them as inferior to something with a purple icon is stupid.
>>585330823regiments of renown have a character about them that makes them unique though over a standard unit. if they weren't also veterans, they wouldn't also have existing rank 9, and the melee stats equivalent to that. They are also missing their fatigue bonus though. Also there are a couple of units that specifically have +27 accuracy that are obviously meat to take into account the fact they don't normally receive that bonus, and enough receive that +23 bonus (I think all WH2 and beyond) that they obviously tried to address the problem to some extent. I guess it's a skub judgement call no matter how you slice it, I just don't want to obviously fuck up the balance too much by addressing the issue.
>>585331604The game isn't balanced,
>>585331767yeah...
I am going to kill chaos.
Legend status?
>>585331881Slay, sister.
>>585333202bald and mad
>>585333202going back to his garden after dunking on tcaluk
Snikch is the only cool skaven to ever existGhoritch doesn't count
>>585333992He is very cool, but.. the others are cool too.
>>585303525black ark fleetmaster
>>585308739t.
>>585305595>because the "modded" tag that save files get.autism sounds horrible.also, all you need: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3593267514
I always come back to the same LLs for me its AllarielleIkit ThorgrimmEkspethany tomb Kingany Chorfthose are the most fun campaigns
>>585310976Norscan vassals are fucking useless anyway. They just roam around their territory lagging up between turns as they do nothing, and lose every battle on the rare chance they actually head south
>>585336986My top 5 are probablyKarlMiaoAlarielleKatarinSisters of TwilightKarl and his harem.
need it or keep it?https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3824919404
>>585337319What is the benefit of marked Giants?
>>585318386I didn't care for Cathay then I played Three Kingdoms. And now I still don't, but I like Chinese history now. Shame warhammer fantasy couldn't get a faction made with love for that history like the HRE got.
>>585337319not needed but keep for effort
>>585331604Remember when regiments of renown had voice lines specific to them?>THE TATTERSOULS
Imagine a faction made up of cool scheming birds.
This is the best Cathayan sountrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenBeY_qV2Y
do chaos factions get their own soundtracks? i can't remember any chaos themed music in the game
>>585336986For me it'sMalakaiGorbadElspethSisters of TwilightBhashiva
>>585338047get out of here with your bird brained ideas
I miss the ability to store units from three kingdoms. Moving them across several provinces without having to actually move them manually was a lot less annoying, and it means every time I confederate I have to delete several armies because the AI can't build them for shit, and I still always feel bad because that's a lot of dudes that could be cannon foddering my enemies.
>>585338449CAW!
>>585323467Is /ourgirl/ mod still broken?
THE HISTSOYS... I CAN'T HOLD THEM ANY LONGER
>>585339434which chakra is the blue one
>>585339434I'm sorry if this is how you have to find out but warhammer is the more basedgoy retard oriented than the history titles by a long shot>OOOOOOOOOOOO BIG MONSTERS CRASHING TOGETHER OHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>585339618>>OOOOOOOOOOOO MY ANCESTORS :) CRASHING TOGETHER OHHHHHHHHHHHHHget dunked on histoid
>>585339705kek bodied that freak
Total War: Dune
>>585339743>every single unit adhd walking across the battlefield to avoid getting entire army obliterated by an anus worm
>>585337095I know. I don't know why people pretend to like the mechanic. There are a million things wrong with it. The everchosen thing you can do for Archeon is based but I'm not sure if other lords get to do that or not
Total War: War of the Worlds
who will you main in tw star wars?
Me after I execute another histsoy for being uppity
>>585338320Is Malakai fun?never tried him so far but am a huge fan of difficult dwarf campaignsTW2 thorgrimm on legendary vs endless greentide was fun
>>585340334Orange of course
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>585340490
>>585340363To me, he's the single most fun campaign in the game. Yes, he has really strong mechanics that probably make him the single strongest dwarf faction. But in return, your starting position is hell on earth and you have to weather the assault of all the forces of Chaos. To me this is the ideal campaign setup, big effort for a big pay off.Then of course, you've just got the cool stuff his faction in itself has. You start with Gotrek and Felix and can get Ulrika, so between the four of them you've got almost the whole gang. Malakai's adventures, while strong af, also require a certain degree of effort. It's not just "click button, receive game winning button", you then have to actually do the missions to receive the rewards. And Malakai has the most flexibility of builds you can go for. You can go for the traditional tanky melee frontline and backline of thunderers and artillery, you can go gyrocopter heavy, and you can go slayer heavy. Malakai fits all of them. The only styles he can't really pull off as well are Thorgrim's hammerer melee rush and Thorek's quarreler spam.
>>585336986I've been trying to branch out more but for me it isSnikchThrotMorathiFey EnchantressRepanseEpidemiusAny Tomb King except Settra for some reasonSkarsnikand most recently Neferata, I've been really enjoying the vamp rework so far
>>585340039It's because the fantasy of it is cool. The idea of 'unite a bunch of tribes and go down south to btfo the empirekeks' is appealing, but because the already stupid AI seems to become clinically retarded the moment it vassalises, it's super underwhelming. And since norscans make pretty much no money, it's not even particularly good at providing wealth. I was thinking as I played Archaon about how much better it would be if they basically had the norscan vassals have no 'real' armies at all, but instead they would spawn a force in their territory when enemies enter, with the strength of it scaling to how powerful your dark fortress is (so you get more money from tribute and it lags less), while their forces are instead provided to you as a greenskin waaagh style second army of norscans. If they get high level enough, they can be added to the chaos warrior recruitment pool. Or you can sacrifice them to level your guys up/recruit daemons
NOOOO MY ARMY GOT STUCK ON A HERO AGAIN FIX THIS SHIIIIIIT CA
>>585340749sounds not so bad I always thought he has a boring campaign where he just stomps everyonewill try him after my current campaign
>>585340860You're better off asking claude to fix it
>STIRLANDERS could be here
>>585340903Most people I've seen who said they didn't like Malakai actually said they bounced off his campaign because it's too difficult. I don't think people who say he's boring and he stomps everyone understand the sheer amount of factions that "everyone" includes at the same time.
>>585340809It would be better if the vassals were just like the free slaanesh armies so you could go out and pillage without leaving someone behind for some of the spawns for the end game crisis shit. Or the vassals sacked a lot of shit. Or if you had any real control for the AI. As it is it is definitely annoying and after I beat this WoC I don't plan to play them again unless it is with mods or reworks because man I hate the vassal shit. The everchosen razing everything part is cool but the build up to get there sucks so bad and I find myself getting mad at the vassals or the mechanics not working as intended more than I was having fun uniting chaos and stuff
The sight lines in thanquol's final battle are a lot more fucked up than they seem at first.
>>585341059To go further, I think part of the trouble is that you are so fucking slow and the chaos wastes are so big so there are a couple turns where there are no fights. Part of the reason I wasn't a big fan of Skarbrand but love Arbaal. And there isn't like a teleport or anything to get around or movement buffs besides the eye of chaos thing but that isn't reliable at all
>>585341236Eye of chaos buffs are great, but the actual gifts of chaos system feels super underwhelming. One bloodletter every four turns, wow...
>>585341212Gotta shill you those tall ratling cannon stormfiends somehow. Where'd the fun be if you could fight it with those stunty regular ratling gunners?
You ever notice how there aren't a lot of emotions in Warhammer? Nobody's really boiling over with emotions.
>>585341306Some of them are ultra OP like Nurgle replenishment on all territory but yeah a lot of them are complete shit. WoC are really unfun to play and it sucks losing an army and having to slowly grind back up to chosen again. It's so nice for other factions that you can just get them
>>585341413It's WARhammer, not EMOTIONhammer, ok?
>>585341365I was using those and they were still doing the thing where they don't fire until you give them an order, then they wiggle an inch to the right or left before they start.
>>585303525Missing lores of magic, since dark elves should have all basic ones. City guard, normal recruitment like all factions, and whatever else anons added.
>>585341413cold and aloof like the dragon cat meow ying
>>585340860always a good time
>challenges you to a duelwhat now nigger?
>>585342048This isn't Three Kingdoms.
>>585300314>slavesWe don't use that word anymore. Get with the times, gramps.
I recently played some good ol Gor’Rok and I’m kind of confused why people say they need a rework, aside from having more buildings than available slots (Attila kino) and allies screwing up your geomantic web.
>>585309628Their armor imitates how Khaine is represented in their art. The horns Malekith and Rakarth wear are directly inspired by the helmet of Khaine too. And in the case of Malekith the mask he wears is literally the face of Khaine too.
>>585309628They look cool
>>585342048*declines*now what lol
>>585342180Lizardmen are too much of an RPG faction. I want a faction with real grand strategies and battlefield tactics.
https://old.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/1xd9us4/an_update_from_roger_on_shogun_2_complete_edition/Oh WOWLMAO>This was not a Creative Assembly developed game. It wasn’t subject to our same internal reviews and quality assurance. We took our eyes off its external development, with all our teams focused on our next big projects. However, whatever the development arrangements, Total War is our franchise and our name is on it. THEY OUT RIGHT SAID ITLMAOOOO
>>585309375>AnethraWhat a interesting choice. But she's more of a backseat gamer after the Sundering.
>>585342550Kek. Total War really made you a master strategist, huh?
>Uniting the whole empire and giving kislev, bretonnian, and dwarf lands to their respective owners
>>585342673LEGEND STATUS?LEGEND STATUS?
>>585342673Legend won... he fucking won...
>>585342673
how did (You) spend the /twg/ downtime?
>>585342715Manlets were totally useless outside of Karak Kadrin who went out with a bangKislev got folded early quicklyEmpire got mogged hardBretonnia stood strong to the very end with all of its remaining knights and random civilians saved
40k soon, 40k soon…
>>585342765>>585342860I'm out o f the loop, what does legend have to do with the remaster debacle?
>>585342715APE TOGETHERSTRONG
>>585343068its delayed. had to put devs on shogun 2 refucked.
>>585343068its cancelled, they can't compete with dow4 anymore
I don't know who to plaaaaay!
>>585343338MARKUSWULFHART
>>585336015Why do u keep making your images transparent?
>>585339256Yes and No.I fixed the database tables, that makes the mod work again but her balloon is broken and doesn't fire cause fucked animations.There is a mod that expands the pirate faction she has to fight and that chinese dude has fixed the buggy units. He posted his mod in the comments of yinyin, you can load that and then it should all work again.
>>585344024Pic unrelated?
>>585344305what?
>>585344442Where is the transparency I don't see it
You should get a faction's unique mechanics when you confederate them.
>>585342548*orders his 10 asurillion lorthern seaguard and skycutters to open fire*get raped faggot
>>585344497The thing has a raster cut out of it, that's usually what you do to trick the browser engine to show a different image in the thumbnail, you cut a raster out and fill it with a different image. This one just doesn't have that, so it is transparent.
>>585342715what about the elves sir
>>585344904nta, but the image looks fine to me...?
is there a stigma against eating elf meat in warhammer fantasy?
>>585344992Well this is /twg/, not photoshop general.. so whatever, was just curious why he keeps making these. Back to total war, before janny gets mad.
>>585345119Oh, well, it's not intentional. I have a conversion thing that turns WEBPs into PNGs. I didn't know they had transparency. Might switch to JPGs instead.
>>585303829
>>585308739>>585336015I shall only be buying 40k when Tyranids are added
>>585344939Depends. Athel Loren elves can stay my friends. Laurelorn elves I might purge
>>585345520that's a penis
>>585345892that's your lunch
>>585345961
>>585345892I don't see it
>>585343496Why not. never played him.
>>585346212get ready for one of the most miserable campaigns in the game
>>585343075Legend wins when CA loses. It's a forever penance for making him look like a fool with their pivot
>>585342673Hahaha I knew it was more likely Sega's fault as the publisher. You fuckers didn't believe me! I'm a genius with a unique insight to the administration of game publishing (read: I guessed) and you all are just smelly apes. Cope if you want but I've already won.
>>585346824there was no pivot.Every week there's a gaming leak. 99% of players pay no attention to leaks. And among the few who do, only half of them believe the leaks. Multi million dollar garage indie studios don't throw away thousands of work-hours due to rumors and leaks. The only "proof" he had was a name and some artwork. Content creation does not happen in perfect synchronicity. CA has concept art for potential DLC that will most likely never see the light of day.
>>585348252I think it's a bit of both in this case.The former CA dev who did a reddit AMA said something about how he leaked a "half-baked idea" which led to fan backlash which led to the idea losing funding before it could be finished.
>>585348252The pivot has been confirmed, I'm afraid.
>>585348873Yeah that's kinda my point. There are so many possible DLCs for this game, ideas are half baked and then approved/rejected later on, before entering full production. Legend may have gotten info about such an idea, but mistakingly leaked it as "NEXT DLC LEAK". Legend's retardation comes from thinking CA is personally after him and decided to throw away hundreds of thousands of dollars of time=money just to fuck with him.
Oh the apology went out on all channels. Facebook and YouTube Post (??) as wellhttps://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxEghXAKwCnJ8vahmWrygj7NVWvOyIKz-e
>>585349457Youtube comments are a complete 180 from reddit comments lmao
>>585349457>say sorry
no one bought that shitstop with this psyop
In most positive news, Attila is nearly fixedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQF6zXrHHiYReady for another Tanukhids run?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_tFbLonqUY
>>585350956LEGEND WINS AGAIN
hi legend if you are reading this I sent you my disaster campaign
>>585350956bro is literally just fiendingHAHAHAHAHAH
>>585351059uhhhh I don't know thanks for the superchat
>>585350956Is it really that hard to be straight with your customers?
>>585351282as someone that has a lot of contact with marketing departments in bigger companies it is physically impossible for them they are the worst people you can imaginethey dont even see they customer as human
This is honestly the best week of my life.
>>585351282In the company's eyes, why the fuck should they ever treat their cattle playerbase with any sort of respect or integrity?
>>585351282they hate your guts for some reason
>>585351798it's because you creamed all the dlcall you had to do was boughted
>>585350956oh great. another voloundite.
Still having a blast btw!
honestly feel sorry for shogunfags even though I only play warhammer I felt the same when wc3 reforged came out and it was just dogshit
>>585351929>boughtered all dlcs>still get fucked over
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3824557361
>>585352264collective punishment
Didn't buy any DLC? Waist chop.Bought it all? Waist chop.One must achieve harmony in DLC purchasing...
No elves? No buy.
Any better endgame army composition for high elves?
I only buy dlc with jadelike beauties to cultivate myself
>>585352746like greenskins?
I've seen enough. For the franchise to survive, a path must be charted to Total War: Age of Sigmar, and it must be trodden with the utmost haste.
>>585352709yes. but you're a mixed army enjoyer.
Meanwhile, at CA Sofia...
Question, why does no one cultivate greenskins and harvest them like food?
>>585352709gigabased army compbut lots of things are better
>>585353273But they do, greenskins do
>>585353273this isn't 40k
>>585353185
>>585352709If it was me, I'd cut some sisters for a loremaster of hoeth, handmaiden and mist mage. Might even replace the PG with some allied recruited artillery.
>nearly all Elspeth reskins remove her dark make-up are modders all gay or what?
What do they make goblin sausage roll from anyway
>>585353526It's fucking retarded. Like, ok, you want to remove the coif, fine by me, but the make up? Are you dumb? That's the best part.
If you bought any dlcs from this jewnigger company instead of creaming it then you're a bigger goycattle than any p*radox cocksuckerCA deserves every little bit of blame and i don't trust the SUPER EPIC EX CA employee falseflagger on r*ddit,
>>585353348Ok but why only greenskins do it?do they taste bad?
BEASTMEN RAA-ROO!
Alien: Isolation 2 when
>>585353185Small eastern-family farm under russian shahed drones, plz understand.
>>585353407>>585352954High elves infantry isn't really that strong especially for going on the offensive. They are mostly there to buy the archers time to do their job. I have about 400 hours and no matter how much I experiment, this is my go to composition. I could doomstack an army of sisters but they can't kill fast enough especially against those fucking rats that >teleports behind you>nothing personal kidThen I experiment with lords and mages and it turns into a Korean Starcraft APM sweatfest. You need some kind of frontlines that will hold them for just long enough. IDK probably not the best but it works for me. Then make it rain with the dragons and fire mage and morale immediately shatters.
>>585354412delayed. they need to fix shogun 2.
Why does elspeth moan so much in the campaign?
>>585350956>Punished Legend, a man denied his total war and backs
>>585352285genuinely if a chink with unlimited ai tokens can do this, why cant some intern in CA do the same?
>>585354956small family company
>>585354956Not everyone is qualified to be a prompt engineer
>>585354592All of it is deserved after his treatment of Pharaoh.
>>585354545She's thinking of me
>>585355584I still like to think he played dynasties off stream and realized it has the best campaign map gameplay of any total war and that's why he got triggered everytime someone mentioned pharaoh in his streams
>>585355584noone gives a flying fuck about bronzeage shit buddy whether he endorsed it or not
>>585308557>Expands the Bretonnia units roster>no foot-knights
shes thinking of getting shot by my lord
>>585356878she dreads the artillery arrows shot by unnerfed MARKUS. WULFHART.
>thinking about invading and declaring was on faction next to me or replenish another turn>next turn starts and a friendly faction took it over from outside my vision...
who
>>585309375>manticore knightsThey sound cool.
>>585356831I would be happy with Herrimaults and foot knights. I find the Herrimaults cool and it would give Brets a stalk unit too.A faceless hero could also boost movement for Brets since they need it so bad, might also be a chance to revamp chivalry and stuff as well. Either that or a Bretonnian shepard hero for movement but that seems like a follower and I'm sure it is without looking it up
Why can't my bestigors beat chosen?
>>585356297I think that post was sarcastic
I want to play a helf faction.I want to play a traditional spears front archers in the rear, cav on the wings army. Will literally not use monsters or monstrous units or artillery (only cause they suck).Magic is ok but not the focus.Tyrion or Eltharion?
>enemy armies can retreat through a second army set in ambush on their retreat path
>>585357504Bestigors are tired for all the sex they had last night.
>>585357673I wonder if there is a mod that remove AI campaign movement cheat, tired of playing whack a moleSomeone asks Claude to make this please
Why can't my centigors beat grail knights?
get undeath caster to level 3unlock soulstealerwin every battle in the first 30 turnsI AM NOT CATTLE TCA
I don't think I'll win..
How bad is the 9.1 patch going to be?I suspect it'll be the pre-christmas patch they always do before leaving for 2 months of vacation.
>>585357878You need to wait for the Ghorros Warhoof DLC.
>>585356831It'd be funny if you could dismount knights but it would cost massive amounts of chivalry every time.
>>585358137Always do what AI Karl does.Force yourself all the way to Drakenhof, and immediately siege/capture that, then start working your way out.At first I thought this was an AI bug, but I suspect it was programmed in specifically because someone in testing noticed that Vamp LLs infinitely spawn the strongest armies their unit caps support, so by having the Karl AI programmed to always snipe their Recruitment settlements, it actually does a lot more damage than a head on fight.
>>585358137Holy fuck.
>>585326352>I have trash armies too but those trash armies don't go into manual battle>How dare you insinuate I'd ever play a battle that I wasn't guaranteed to win?
>>585358175since modders already fix >wall>ladder pathfinding>destructible housethey can literally just steal and lie that "saar we made it in hoouse" or someshit to save the brizzat
>>585355584Pharoah proved the vocal minority bitching about Bronze Age tot al war were just that, an extreme minority.Troy (mythic version) would have been a massive hit 15 years ago only because the movie was still in peoples recent memory.There is exactly three (3!!!) locations and periods stretegy gamers are interested in that is worth the effort and money to invest. 1; Rome (Europe) 100 B.C > 450 A.D2; Medieval Europe (Crusades) First Crusade > Mongol Invasions3; Shingoku Jidai JapanThat is it. Empire and age of sail proved to be a near mortal wound to future development and Shogun 2, Rome AND Attila paid for it. No one cares about any other time period or cultures outside how they interact with the above 3 listed. Imjin War might be cool - IF its attached to Shogun 3.Early new world wars is cool - IF its attached to Med 3Alexander on one end of history and Charlemagne on the other is cool - IF attached to Ceasar+Octavian's Rome 3.The work and time involved in rotating through these 3 is 10+ years and more than enough time to actually work on advancing the games tech and features instead of pruning them. No one playing Med 3 in 2034 is going to be crying about it being too close to Med 2 and NO ONE playing Shogun 3 in the same year is going to cry about Shogun 2 being replaced and so on.However, Thrones, 3K, Pharoah, Troy and all these niche (YES NICHE) interest periods are literally landmines that damage the company and the series overall. This is not up for debate. We can now judge them by their fruits. All failed. Even 3K because people passionately, still play Med 2 and Rome 2 but the chinks dropped 3K like hot shit the second they were not pandered to. So they are far too volatile.Warhammer Total War should have been the start of a split in divisions working solely on fantasy IP's.
>>585323485who dis
>playing Neferata>Archeon (forma end game) spawns at the southern tip of Africa and is slowly working his way towards Lamia>pissed because I know eventually he will raze it right before I can get the landmarkThen I realized I could send a harem of vampires to rape him and keep him in place on the campaign map. Only downside is all that vampire loli reverse rape sex he was exposed to made him spam spells ultra fucking hard when I took down all his fortresses.Thank you loli vampires.
>>585358298Yeah I've noticed that when karl ignores vlad, vlad takes over.The autoresolve is in my favori, he will get steamrolled.
>>585358680Enjoy the dead rising again.
>>585358313Only ever got that location once.Unfortunately it was a Belegar campaign, so I felt obligated to destroy it.
>>585337095Vassals make you money and also can be used to get Allied Recruitment units (a pair of hunter javelins can get a surprisingly large amount of work done, and marauder bearmen go actually kinda crazy with the amount of attack and armour buffs you can stack on them since they count as marauders). You can also just straight up command their armies directly with allegience points, which archaeon will be swimming in.
pffffffthahahahaLOOOOOSSERRRRRRRR
>>585341016>>585340903I think he has the same problem that many campaigns have where you can get a really really powerful single army around your LL but can't defend enough territory to have more than one army defending more than one province until you reach peak snowball.
>>585358805I think I got it twice. Once as Skaven (Eshin) and once as someone else I don't remember where I destroyed it for similar reasons.
>>585341595>since dark elves should have all basic onesWhy must every faction be the same as every other faction?Lore of Life? Lore of LIGHT for DARK elves? Poppycock.
NOOOO EVERYTHING IS TOO EASY NOOOOOO EVERYTHING IS TOO HARD NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST NOOOOOOOOO
>>585358137just shoot him until he dies
>>585341595>>585359186I wish that Cult of Pleasure at least got access to more Slaanesh stuff like the lore of magic and even some chaos warriors or something and Malekith actually got stuff for reuniting the elf Reich and an actual thing to do in his campaign
>>585358473lasombracosplay
>>585359186TK has lore of light...
>turn 21 and I have a dragon mountElspeth is OP.>>585359449That's what I'm doing.
>>585357526Most factions will be fine. Even factions like Imrik have the dragons expensive enough that you're not gonna be doomstacking them outside of Imrik's army (which will have a collection of a handful), and you'll want more than one army and spears and archers (or speararchers with lothern sea guard) are what you'll have on your additional armies.Eltharion has more of a focus on spears and shields with his buffs, while Tyrion is kinda buff-neutral. He has upkeep reduction for spears and archers which is nice but you'll probably want to be graduating him out of those when you get rich enough.
>>585358290>It's exactly like Slaanesh seduce units but for your own knights and costs ChivalryI'd buy it.
>>585358313I got this a few times.Crushingly I got it on Warriors of Chaos and apparently it doesn't apply to warband recruitment.
>>585359756Tomb Kings aren't Dark. It's actually really bright in the desert.
>>585359186It's just a thing they had in the tabletop game. All the eight basic lores and then dark magic on top of that.
>>585299892TW2 was really the peak of popularityTW3 never got good memes
>>585359186While I get wanting differences between factions, DElves/HElves are mostly supposed to be aesthetic differences save for their special monster units.
>>585358461Bro it has NOTHING to do about what game Pharaoh is. It's the fact legend proved to not actually care about TW but views. So him posturing now about Shogun 2 is the most pathetic thing imaginable when he didn't have 30 minutes to even install Pharaoh. This all about his hypocrisy not Pharaoh. He build his image on TW but went out of his way to shit on a TW game he never touched. He channel intro is LITERALLY the Pharaoh trailer, a game he never played. He's a hypocrite and a fraud.
>>585360864MandaloreGaming said TWW3's launch was one of the worst and most jank RTS games in a good long time.Naturally he wasn't the only one to feel that way, and even more naturally, someone of his prominence sharing that opinion allowed more people to feel free to have that opinion, so it killed a lot of 3's popularity right away.Realms of Chaos being so shit didn't help, most of this general was still talking about Mortal Empires rather than Realms of Chaos.
Hear me out: Beastwomen. Eh?
>>585357379>I would be happy with Herrimaults and foot knights.They definitely need both>I find the Herrimaults cool Same here.>and it would give Brets a stalk unit too.imo Herrimault should definitely get 'Woodsman' as standard.tree.Should they get fire whilst moving and 360 firing arc? Personally I think they should have fire whilst moving as standard, but maybe not 360 firing arc.Not too sure about them getting stalk tbhwy. Maybe that, like 360 firing could be unlocked through tech or a hero skill?>A faceless hero could also boost movement for Brets since they need it so bad>Either that or a Bretonnian shepard heroPersonally, I'd like to see Bretonnia get a 'Yeomen Captain hero; like a 1-man Mounted Yeomen Archer meets the Lizardmen's Skink Chief hero.They could buff Mounted Yeomen and Herrimault units and generally make Bretonnia better at skirmishing/harassing.They could give those units extra ammunition, poison attacks or the ability to swap to armour-piercing ammunition. If they gave 'Wayfarer' and something like the Lizardman's 'Predatory Senses' for Mounted Yeomen it would help make those units a bit more useful, even when knights are available to recruit instead.
>>585360579Makes sense, dark magic is all about mixing different winds into a spooky evil one and necromancy is specializing that a step further. I don't think it would be game breaking if they got a couple more lores. Life would be too much probably just because of how OP it would be for monsters, but maybe they could get Slaanesh to make up for it or something. >>585361098His complaints about the ui were real as fuck and it still looks like a mobile game compared to 2 in a lot of ways. I felt like Legend was better at explaining some of the gameplay issues and bugs that stayed in, Mandalore was better for explaining stuff that wasn't really gameplay related like sound, ui, etc.
>>585359186Lore of life is the lore of nurgle. Just because you think life=good it dosen't mean it's true. Lore of life can create work like the lore of undeath if you really want it to. It isn't just healing but forcing dying to fight on like zombies.
You bore me. I'm going to eat you now.
>>585361098This thread was basically kept on life support by the trickle of news about the development of the Miao Ying corruption mod.
>>585361272Tell that to nurgle, not the Dark Elves!
>>585361098Reminder that TWW3's development forked from TWW2 before the Potion of Speed update. Incredible stuff.
>>585359186People REALLY don't understand why Dark elves in the lore use only dark magic. It's not because it's "le edgy" it's because it can achieve the effects of EVERY LORE IN EXISTENCE BY FORCING THEIR EFFECTS. A dark magic caster can heal like the lore of life and banish demons like the lore light. This isn't represented in the battle lore from 6th edition at all. That's why GW decided to give them all the lores in 8th. This is true for the lore of high magic. It works in the same way with the caster being able to create any effect with it. Both of these lore are the apex lores that combine the powers of all winds. They just do it in different ways.
>>585361270>His complaints about the ui were real as fuck and it still looks like a mobile game compared to 2 in a lot of ways. I felt like Legend was better at explaining some of the gameplay issues and bugs that stayed in, Mandalore was better for explaining stuff that wasn't really gameplay related like sound, ui, etc.The fact they still haven't patched some of the UI to be more like TWW2 makes me wonder how fucked it is under the hood.>>585361281Oh yeah, there was a good amount of talk about that back then, community beastmen too.>>585361562According to the former dev from reddit, it forked shortly before TWW2's release, which I hope he just misspoke because that would be so stupid I can't even fathom where that decision would come from.
>>585361110Brave Ser Krubah could PUMMEL that minotaur into the dust.
>>585361671It might be cool if they had some kind of "Mystery upon Mystery" special skill at a certain level that lets them unlock a random off-lore bound spell to reflect some great discovery like this - but I do think it'd be bad for the game for every faction to have access to the lore of life, everyone'll just wind up spamming all the same spells in all the same ways and Dark elves will feel less Dark.
>>585361214Woodsman is redundant because most Herrimaults don't use mounts already. Even the grail knight members of them tend to not do that apart from transportation to blend in better because Brets are so horse obsessed that people would recognize their mount. I think they should just be like those Kislev ambusher units that I don't remember the name of or shades where they can do a bit of melee and shooting but they are a bit more expensive and don't have massive armor. Would pair really nice with cavalry. They don't need to be shadow walker tier for ranged or like those OP tigers, just bretonnian shades would be good enough. For me I would add foot knights, herrimaults, some war beasts, and a couple evil variants of Bretonnia stuff for Mallobaude and Mousillon, and buff a couple of the peasant units so they aren't quite so bad. Buffing Grail Reliques could be good too. I think Brets are missing a good centerpiece single entity unit. If CA is just making shit up I think it would be funny to have a massive snail that is a castle tower filled with archers kind of like a khemrian war sphinx but I don't know how much liberty they have for that sort of thing
Druchii sorcery isn't even represented properly in the game at all. Lets take Teclis for example a normal mage can only use as many dice as his caster level so Teclis can use 6. But even a low level dark magic user can use as many 14(actually you can use as much dice as you like even 50) if he wants. Caster level doesn't decide the power of dark magic user. This is the edition where people take the "but dark elves can't use other lores" If they can't, give them 1000 starting winds and no spell cooldowns. Let's how you like playing against this level of magic spam if you like the lore so much.
Simpler times.
>>585362170Life is the one lore I would be okay with them not having as long as they got something to make up for it like ice or slaanesh. Even if neither are particularly good especially compared to life. Nothing is stopping them from making a Khaine lore too but that is too much work probably.
>>585362357Or if not Khaine one of the other dark elf gods, like the one for prophecy or dark pacts or something. I do wish they got their own lore, I think it is strange that they share dark with wood elves to begin with
settrabros, how are we feeling?
>>585362541Good. FUCK FAGASH.
The Eldar.Where are they?
>>585362541In my Neferata campaign he wiped out all his threats and became the number 3 power in the world before the Chaos invasion. I ended up allying with him against Archeon, it was kino
>>585362196>ShadesMore Empire Huntsmen I think would be a better comparison.Shades have the associated baggage of being the most OP armour piercing ninja archer in the game.>>585362196>Buffing Grail Reliques could be good too. I think Brets are missing a good centerpiece single entity unit.I could imagine them getting a big properly sized moving Altar on a wagon like a Lady-themed celestial hurricanum.Grail Relique is kind of not an awful unit for its price but it doesn't play nice with the 20 unit cap in an army if feels really hard to justify.Could be cute to have a knight with 'woodsman' who are woodland themed knights with like elk antlers stuck to their helmets. Maybe an RoR or something similar to an empire state troop.I'm still skeptical of warbeasts and foot knights, I think it's still important to have different factions be different and so it's important to not all have the same options. Though Bretonnia is on the more extreme end of that spectrum so it could be ameliorated a BIT.I think they should have 'royal guard' as an armoured halberd/sword+shield unit with unit caps.The biggest thing Bretonnia needs IMO is a retexture and a remodel, especially of the peasant units. They just look like downright dogshit, especially the way faction colours work on their clothing, it's so hideously gaudy and clownlike. Doesn't match the much more tastefully drawn unit cards at all.>>585362314I'm glad that the game isn't lore accurate because then it would suck>>585362528>I think it is strange that they share dark with wood elves to begin withDark was their own lore until they added it to wood elves much later on, same with High magic for High elves.
>>585362801They are entitled, smug, tall things who belong inside Slaanesh.
>>585358290>It'd be funny if you could dismount knights but it would cost massive amounts of chivalry every time.Imagine if every unit of dismounted knights lowered public order in the province by 5
>>585362528Lore of dark magic was thought to Morathi by Khaine himself when he was controlling Aenarion. It's literally the lore he invented.
>>585362801The crisis of the late Middle Ages. Whatever happened there?
>>585363057Shut up Fulgrim you're gay.
>>585361110
>>585363279Say hi!
>>585363279>they carry the true-horn's seedwe need to double down on the corruption kino by having them carry Ungrol the incel's seed
>>585359186Because it's retaded for them to not use the lore just because muh feel muh looks, it would give them more power so they would use it. It's magic, not a morality system. And they had them in tabletop too.
>>585363365sex with that beastwoman
>>585363546People just have this image that there are good and bad lore. But it's ok for high elves to use the lore of death but not ok for dark elves to use the lore of life. All magic is chaos. There is no good magic.
>>585362801Gawking on guardsman cocks.
>>585362541
>>585363762MY Sttera never jobbed. It's Nagash that got beat up.
>>585363546I think different factions should behave differently and have different playstyles.
>>585363689>Eldar are forever doomed to be the designated waifu race of the Imperium or plain rapebait for Chaos and NidsTruly a cursed existence.
>>585363861High elves have now more beasts than dark elves and access to the lore of life(which CA said can't give to DE because they have high HP monsters) lmao.
>>585342715If factions are destroyed you should be able to restore them with rebellion cheese. Say Belegar gets destroyed and you’re playing as Thorgrim, you can take 8 peaks yourself and restore Belegar there, or as the empire of throgrimm dies you can restore his faction at Karak Kadrin.>>585359186This isn’t world of wacraft, light and life don’t necessarily mean good. And they used to all be one race, with some of them having been around since as long ago as the sundering meaning they could have just been high elf life casters once upon a time, why would they lose that?
>>585358313Got it with Vampires, doesn't work with their recruitment. Not sure if bug
>>585363861Not going to happen, this is total war, and there are many factions, barring those few lores is just arbitrary.
>Playing Dragon's Dogma 2.>Randomly come across this pawn.That's pretty good.
https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war/forums/37-shogun-era/threads/16384So CA have confirmed that they didn't have any part of development and that generative AI was strictly not allowed. They are now taking manpower off of 40k and Medieval 3 to assist with fixing CE. Shogun 2 has FUCKED US. 40K NEVER. Med 3 NEVER. Mataboo can tongue my anus.
>>585363008>I could imagine them getting a big properly sized moving Altar on a wagon like a Lady-themed celestial hurricanum.I'd like something inspired by that concept art of the big war altar thing with a unicorns head on it.Maybe it could be linked to the Sisters of the Lady and provide passive healing to nearby units and/or missile/magic resistance.https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Sisters_of_the_Lady>These white-robed holy women will often be the daughters and sisters of Knights who, because they are not knights, are not able to express their devotion by going on the Grail Quest. Instead, they become Nuns of the Grail. Their main work is to heal the wounded knights carried in from the battlefield or the jousting field and, under their auspices, such warriors can be brought back from the brink of death.I'd like to see a more 'basic' version of this thing too, this could be a RoR:https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Reliquary_of_Quenelles>The Reliquary of Quenelles is a sacred gold casket containing ancient weapons, armour and fragments of bones from long-dead Bretonnian heroes, whose names and deeds have long been lost to the mists of time. It is steeped in Bretonnian honour and enchantment, which creates an aura of sanctuary that can repel the enemies of Bretonnia.>Mounted atop the reliquary wagon, it is hauled by hordes of pilgrims who defend themselves if attacked. The pilgrims accompanying the wagon include hordes of simple townsfolk, but also powerful Grail Damsels. These pilgrims are gripped with religious fervour and are thus all but immune to fear, dying where they stand to protect their holy artefact
>>585364852Has legend made a video crying about this?
>>585364852It's easy to hate the jeet but do you have the courage to hate the slav?
>>585364852>Mandalore's latest video says "It's hard to see Total War 40k through the smoke of Shogun 2 CE's burning carcass"
>>585364735more like monkey king
>>585365072The AI resize would have been better if Putin didn't blow up their data center!
>>585354335I feel this may be a misrepresentation of early human culture
>>585365229mandaGOD...
>>585365229legendsissy would never
>THE LEGEND HAS SPOKENI just knew this retard was gonna post something when I saw the CA post
>>585366098CA is his sole income provider. They took his hair but still deliver content to parasitize and make money from.
>>585364653>light magicBrother they are literally DARK elves...... Dark... Light? Need I say more?
>>585365229>wordbabble
>>585364723>>585365229Shogun 2 CE will be forgotten within a month
>>585363843>PLEASE NAGASH SAMA!>I'LL DO ANYTHING!>I'LL FUCKING SUCK YOUR BONE DICK!>YOU WANT ME TO EAT YOUR SHIT ? I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT!>NO! NAGASH! NOOOO AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
imagine if humans were real
>>585364852NOOOO DON'T HATE USIT WAS ALL MATABOOBUY 40K BTW
>>585366727I know it's an invincible reference, but what's the joke?
>>585366727sex with Liebwitz
>>585366891I mean it does seem to be the case that it was mostly on SEGA and Mataboo.
>>585366891CA say this and they're completely correct
>>585366924wdym joke?
>we’re the main characters of every story we write and despite always being the underdog in worlds full of terrible beings with unimaginable power we always come out on top because of our spirit and willpower or something such as! :Dhumans are disgusting
>>585366891>BUY 40K BTWI willI give zero fucks to this drama
>>585366891if its something good it was all me if its something bad it was all them
>>585368027warhammer fantasy is a setting where humans didn't come out on top dough
>>585366098Guy needs to feel relevant to the discussion at all timesThis is becoming pathetic
>influencers liking dow4>shogun 2 drama dragging tw40k into the mud along with itGuys im starting to become worried about this franchise
>influencers liking dow4>shogun 2 drama dragging tw40k into the mud along with itGuys I'm starting to get worried about the Dawn of War franchise...Looking good for Total War chads though!
>>585360950Ok? Fuck legend.Pharoah could have been the second coming and it still would have bombed.
>>585365917mandalore should have made a video with End Times, TW3 is pretty much done and it's been 4 years
>>585368404Don't be, DoW4 will be successful, but it's still an RTS and so the same problems that have practically put the genre in its grave are still ever-present.
>Marines, Orks, and Guard are all well along into production with most if not all of their respective rosters done>Eldar have had literally NO showings, presumably not very far in development>Shogun 2 CE backlash has no hit CA full force, taking resources away from 40k and Med3>By the time it's resolved they'll be closer to the intended release date for 40k>At the same time full development of Med3 should also be starting, meaning resources will need to be diverted to it as wellEldar virtually confirmed to be half-baked.
>>585369293>mandalore should have made a video with End Times, TW3 is pretty much done and it's been 4 yearsWhy? It's unbalanced buggy shit with broken AI
>>585369338Worse than that, 40k all but confirmed to be delayed, and they WILL blame CE. That 2027 release date gets more unlikely by the week.
>>585369153Is no one mentioning the now known fact that CA had nothing to do with it?
>>585369338>Shogun 2 CE backlash has no hit CA full force, taking resources away from 40k and Med3This, to me was infuriating.They DIDN'T need to release shogun 2 ceThey DIDN'T need to try to fix shogun 2 CEYet they did both.Seriously, just fucking kill shogun 2 CE, everytime it resurfaces its a shit storm, legend come to grift, volound have a hard on.Jesus christ, know when to cut your losses, this is Hyenas decision making
>>585369293siege is still shit so wait 2 more years
>>585369338I can't tell you exactly which alarm is blaring but the fact they've outright stated Eldar will be absent from the Beta is certainly setting one off
Did they drop the Bhashiva model? I honestly think it's perfect for going forward. As increasingly with big 2-3 faction DLC we scrape through the bottom of the barrel I think the best way is just smaller odds and ends subfactions like Aranessa, Drycha, Bhashiva, etc. You could go ham(GW permitting) because like all of the """big""" literally whos would sell, they just don't have jack shit to pull from. But give them a smaller lord pack and an existing roster to supplement it and they're way easier. One LL, some human units using existing skeletons and like one or two unique animation sets for whatever. That would work really well for factions that are easier to make up than having to cobble together loose ends for major factions. Halflings, Amazons, Araby, Nippon for $30 and requiring extensive collaboration with GW? Tough sell for all involved. But for $5 with some reskins and a single LL? That's way less of a hassle. The Bhashiva model is not optimal for going wild with hopium but I feel like it'd be the most logical way to extract more from the game's lifespan, though it would risk furthering the Paradox problem where new customers see the wall of DLC and just clock out. But since WH3 is basically a captive audience at this point, what's really lost? Even Dogs of War better fit the Bhashiva model than a full DLC.
>>585369547Siege rework is never coming. Let go.
>>585369557I hope they delay this game to december 2027 since they are taking away resources from 40k to fix a game no one wants
>>585369614They didn'tActually, its the (so far) confirmed approach to future WH3 dlc, there is no big dlc in the pipeline, only character packs like egrimm, monkey king and etcThe biggest thing that could possibly come out is a dogs of war pack
>>585369614The Ex-CA employee who did an AMA after CE flopped said that when they were there End Times was planned to be the last big DLC, Bhashiva's DLC format is the future. For better or for worse(if true this means no more race packs).
>>585369338>shogun ruins fantasy total warIn the end, Volound (shogunfag) got his revenge
>>585369883A lot of what the EX-CA employee said was confirmed with this post.So I reckon he was legit
>>585369883do you think a naga pack stapled onto warriors/daemons/beastmen with a map expansion into khuresh is in the cards, or do you thinl dechala being placed there was CA's unsubtle hint of "yeah, this is all the naga you're gonna be getting"
>>585370504They will expand the mountains below the SUPREME PATRIARCH, that much is confirmed if you take a closer look at the map, the mountains have become much more detailed since dechala.That is likely monkey king startpos.Other than that, unless GW changes their opinion severely, don't expect any more expansions
Total War newfag here. I wanted to use the new Shogun 2 complete edition release as a way to get into the TW franchise. Apparently, from what I understand, it's like one of the worst remasters ever made.So should I just get the original Shogun 2 from 2011? If so, which DLCs should I get? Or are none of them necessary?Or is there another better Total War game for a complete beginner for both TW and the 3X genre?
>>585369557There's like a 90% chance CA has no idea how to do them properly since not even GW knows how to balance Eldar properly. They have Marine numbers but Guard durability with more damage output than either, which fucks a tabletop game one way and a video game the complete opposite way. On top of that their 'empire' mechanics would be completely different from the other three factions and harder to balance as well.They really should not have had Eldar as a base game faction.
>>585370804If you like fantasy, warhammer 3If you like history, Rome 2If you want fantastical history, 3K or pharaoh
>>585370894Why not? Its better to tackle the eldar issue now rather than laterBesides its not that hard, high evasion, high speed and reduced penalties for moving and shooting seem like the way to go.The weapons need to be strong tho, otherwise this falls apart
Uhh when do I start replacing my spearelfii and archerelfii as high elves?I'm not supposed to just have lord + wizard + 2/1 spear/archers in every army right?
>>585370961I'll keep those in mind. Warhammer 3 looks cool. I never played any prior TW Warhammer game or even ANY Warhammer games before at all though, so will I be completely lost in the story?
>>585371756Its a sandbox game, so no
>>585371120Because it's better to have a safe launch and a potentially poor DLC than to botch one of the central foundation factions of the launch and squander interest in later DLC.
what determines how much sigils i get per land of dead triggers
>>585371756>so will I be completely lost in the story?I'm a warhammer 3 babby, but its basically a sandbox like >>585371838 saysit's like smash bros but "warhammer", popular characters from any story or era shows up and fight each otherthe reason that I enjoy warhammer 3 so much but have no interest in the historical versions is definitely the fantasy aspectsI mean playing as dwarfs and fighting orcs and zombies, or elves that fight demons and evil elves, and magic casters (even though having too many active abilities in your army can be annoying), and all that stuff is much more captivating than "french vs english" or whatever is in historical gamesbut there are actually french in warhammer as well if you like that
>>585372117On the other hand, there is no time a game is more maleable than before releasing, so if they change to something fundamental in the game in order to introduce something, the best time to do it is now
>>585371756There's not really a 'story', and it's mostly kind of a generic fantasy that should be pretty familiar if you've seen fantasy before. The dwarfs are dwarfy the humans are human-y, the elves are elfy, the orks are ork-y, the undead are undead, the demons are demonic, etc etc.I don't necessarily mean this in a negative way though it's kinda pleasingly classic while still having some character to it.
>>585370961is 3kingdoms good for fantasy history
>>585372562Its the best warhammer game released in the past 10 years, so yes
>>585372668>warhammertotal warlmaoIdk if this was a freudian slip
What's good about 3 kingdoms that isn't in the other games?I haven't looked into it much but it seemed really well-recieved.
>>585372926It have actual diplomacy and alliances aren't brain dead, coalitions really add a new layer to the game
>>585373035>coalitionshow do those work?
>>585373284Alliances, but instead of it being a two way, its a group of people who ally with eachother
it's up
>>585372926It was well received because the characters were dripping with charm, the UI was oozing with soul and the actual wars were more methodical than most other Total Wars. Oh and also the Asian market loved it and it's still the best selling Total War of all time because of it and directly led to the introduction of Cathay to attempt to catch that same lightning in a bottle(it sort of worked but not as well).It was abandoned before ever actually having a start date with the THREE KINGDOMS because whilst base-game sales were tremendous, the DLC packs sold quite poorly and the last one even soured the CCP on the game due to the Chinese not liking that particular time period or whatever.Oh and the game led to the Community Manager chimping out because Chink modders put the female characters in bikini armour, it was fun at the time but it led to the workshop of all Total Wars being censored for a time(they seem to have toned it down now though because Beastmen players have a literal rapemod sat there and a bunch of races have lewd redesign mods)
>>585373501Funny how they curtailed the power of the community manager after grace sperged out.
>>585373489What's the chance he completely sidesteps the Poland shaped elephant in the room like he did in his last one?
>Eldar companion in Rogue Trader is widely hated and among the least popular party members in the game>Despite the boom of recent minor 40k games, many focusing on non-Imperial factions, Eldar have remained completely absent outside of Rogue Trader>Eldar have been ledt out of Dawn of War 4, a first in series history, and been replaced by AdMech>Now Eldar are getting shafted in TW40k due to development and studio issues>Even going one step further, Eldar are currently one of the worst factions in the game in tabletop 40k, and have zero hope on the horizon
>>585373680Their lore has been abandoned ever since they were given one of the worst books ever released.Seriously, 40k is their last shot at being relevant again and that is mostly because people like elves in vidya
>>585373680Deserved for their posters constantly shitting up the general. Never see a Necronfag posting paragraph after paragraph about elf sex.
>>585373680Idira and Jae you mean
>>585373928>Idira and JaeAnd Solomorne
>>585373606end of the vid he's talkin bout wanting to snitch out CA/"shataboo" to sega kekvolound rly is CA joker from lidl
>>585373928Yrliet is only barely above Jae and even then only sometimes, while Idira was someone people actually somewhat warmed up to.
>>585374193Based on what? 4chan posts?
>>585372926It's not that 3K has features that no other game has(it has some, but that's not the point), it's that 3K has the best implementation of them. Character retinues, loyalty, court mechanics, settlement building, alliances and diplomacy, deployables, sieges(3K sieges do not get enough praise), and formations all work better in 3K than other TW games. But 3K also has the worst tech tree implementation of any TW game, bland skill trees, zero agents(your generals are agents and just isn't as fun), and the map is beautiful but dull gameplaywise. Battles are also a mixed bag as they play weird for reasons beyond my ability to comprehend but look beautiful. A field/city of chinamen with banners held high near a forest/in a city that burns down and is littered with corpses, some banners upright and others collapsed is so good. Also the guys do the Shogun 2 thing of writhing before expiring when they get hit by arrows. 3K is good, but you have to like the setting and more than anything it hurts that Warhammer lacks some of its features.
>>585374379Based on the fact Yrliet only has (or rather had) a single fan artist who spent most of his time drawing his OC railing her while she complained.Funnily enough said artist has now dropped Yrliet and moved on to simping for Argenta.
>>585374168Would he kill himself if CA shut down?
>>585374627So nothing.
>>585366098I used to love this guy. I know this is off topic and I won't go on about it but... What's the fucking deal with youtubers? Why do they go bad?h3h3 was this wholesome funny retard, then he turned into a political retard, and now he cheated on his wife and basically burned the entire thing to the ground.idubbz was based and cool, but he turned into a pathetic cucklegend used to make entertaining and/or informative videos, but now he's completely mindbroken by CAasmongold has turned into fox news for millennials and zoomers, regurgitating state propagandamaybe i need to get off youtubemaybe i'm too old for this shitI think the reason I care about this is because, i'm human just like they are. And if they can go bad, maybe I can go bad. And it makes me think about how what kind of attitude I should have towards life in order to avoid this type of fate. LL for this feel?
>>585373772>one of the worst books ever released.Can I receive a quick rundown and is it related to the lame yuanari business
>>585374668>So nothing.
>>585374720Tyrion
>>585374753Being 3rd/4th last by a good margin in a roster of like what sub 10 even counting secret companions at launch? What a nothingburger
>>585375103imagine having your little brother be your therapist
>>585375279the power of family
The druchii are>A. restless>B. cold-blooded killers>C. black-hearted dread lords>D. all of the above
>>585374745It's the Ynnari.Basically GW was doing big sweeping changes across both 40k and Fantasy for no reason other than to reinvent themselves. This is the time where End Times killed Fantasy to replace it with Age of Sigmar. In 40k this started with the Gathering Storm campaign that led up to the Fall of Cadia. Eldar took part in this, which led to the creation of the Ynnari.The point behind the Ynnari was to essentially scrub off some parts of the Eldar faction while also killing the Dark Eldar faction for marketing purposes. Fans of both factions reacted very negatively to everything that happened with the Ynnari.In response, GW pushed the Ynnari harder and even gave them a book series. This series lasted only two books, both of which did more to shit on the Ynnari and the Eldar as a whole rather than show them off as a cool faction.The central problem is that every single Eldar plot thread was strapped to the Ynnari plotline, so when it died the Eldar had NOTHING else. The lead faction writer for them left GW shortly after the Ynnari series flopped, and no other writers have picked the faction back up.In essence, Eldar have been dead for over ten years in lore.
>>585375279Teclis likes to sit and watch Tyrion
>>585375493teclis was autistic just like me!?!?!?
>>585375443>for no reason other than to reinvent themselvesWasn't it to introduce names that they could copyright/trademark as they can't sue people who call their races elves or eldar?
>>585375443Faction that appeals to waifufaggotry has no waifufaggotry and fucking dies.MANY such cases
>arny in a port settlement>attack the settlement>their army leavesi hate it
>>585365229What fucking melodramatic bullshit, everybody acts like soap opera characters now.Now 40kTW will be rough as shit and shitty on release but that's not because of SHogun 2 that's because that's been the case for every total war of the past 16 years except maybe Attila and maybe Warhammer 2.
Am I doing it wrong or is upgrading spells worth it? They get really expensive and I'm usually low on winds, probably every battle I run out of reserves. Though at level 3 it does get cheaper.
>>585376003That was a major driving factor though it's a bit double-sided.The whole debacle stems from the Chapterhouse case, which to summarize;>GW used to make rules for units that didn't have models, encouraging people to kitbash those characters using other models>A small group named Chapterhouse began producing and selling models of those non-modeled units themselves>GW sued Chapterhouse for copyright infringement, but the court ruled that GW's practices didn't warrant copyright protection for something they're technically not selling>This prompted further investigation into GW's copyrights, as most factions had names that were either very generic or very blatantly ripped off from other settings>GW lawyers realized that Chapterhouse has now essentialy blown apart GW's legal protections on their models and they have no way to legally defend their properties unless names are changedThis all also happened in conjunction with Fantasy having several straight editions of bad sales, prompting the End Times on their side of things to jump start a full scale reboot.>>585376163Ironically the Ynnari are mostly only remembered because of Yvraine
>>585376614Depends on the spell and situation etcSome spells are useless without overcasting (like cast on all vs 1 enemy)Some overcasting just increases range so pretty useless overalletc
>>585376614Depends a lot on the spell, if it turns it into an AoE then it's worth the winds cost. Otherwise, it's a matter of concentration. Is the enemy REALLY perfectly positioned for a spell, and won't be perfectly positioned for it in the future? Then its worth concentrating as much damage as possible as quickly as possible.
>>585376671Didn't it also correspond to suing spots the space marine book?
>Yes i retired from making videos...EXPECT to attack CA like a obsessed dumbed ex boyfriendSeems like gardening and being a stay at-home hobby isnt exactly working to heal him, uh?
>>585376872Very likely, it's why Space Marines are often called Astartes now instead of just Space Marines.
>>585369338I agree that Eldar are undeveloped, but people also keep forgetting that Cathay in TWW3 and Skaven in TWW2 were absent from their cinematic trailers too, merely hinted at and were properly revealed much laterIn TWW2 marketing it was downright annoying with le giant rats aren't real memeI believe Eldar will be properly showcased alongside Eldar Codex reveals>>585369421TW40k was already delayed, we simply don't know it officiallyRemember that Valrak was right about everything here. Not only he is super accurate about tabletop releases, he was right that DoW1 remaster, DoW4 by Kings Art and TW40k are all coming. Despite people saying only either DoW1 or DoW4 will happen and then coping that he confused DoW4 for TW40k. And he was right about TW40k features of a new engine, focus on deconstruction, faction customization and missing CSM etcThere is no reason to believe he was wrong about TW40K reveal being supposed to be in June. He was correctly told it will be revealed there and after that TW40k was delayed by half a year, which is why CA did that desperate cope where they stretched their anniversary for half a year doing some worthless retrospective.>>585371120Eldar playstyle are cancer and is doubly annoying in real time games. If you make them work they are like historical horsefuckers, Asrai, Skaven weapon teams and Tzeentch magic. If you debuff them they are glass cannon without cannonOne of their units are a functionally invisible, long range, Snipers driving on their Jet Bikes, kitting enemies endlessly while shooting with pinpoint accuracy all the same. Imagine this unit in Total War, Jesus Christ>>585369526Yeah, how do you even fix S2 CAThis remaster DOESN'T DO ANYTHINGIt has no content. It does nothing. Them giving away all dlcs for og S2, which happened at this same time and was completely forgotten, is all "Complete Edition" should have beenThere is nothing to fix about S2 CE other than it's existence
>>585376671>The whole debacle stems from the Chapterhouse caseInteresting, I wasn't aware of all that. Thanks for the info. I guess Chapterhouse indirectly fucked GW even more as it sounds like they were the catalyst to destroy fantasy via the End Times, and then after that the success of Vermintide & Total War ignited interest in the setting only for it to have already been destroyed. I got really into TWW2 around the time of the Twisted and the Twilight and was going to buy a model only to find out that they didn't sell any of them anymore.
>>585370804>So should I just get the original Shogun 2 from 2011?yesit should have all dlcs by default nowYou fucked up for not having it already. It was free to keep few years ago>Or is there another better Total War game for a complete beginner for both TW and the 3X genre?Total War Warhammer is this. If you manage to get pass confusing purchase model
Ohnononono..oooohhh AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!https://youtu.be/I_tFbLonqUY?si=PDHFUhQnFmW7Wln2https://youtu.be/OV8tHZUNU4M?si=oHvckj7UXTzhBFst
>>585377754Wasnt Legend retires? Why he keeps making anti-CA videos?
>>585374379I hate that Idira fell that short in popularity, she was my favorite together with Argenta and Pasqal and her little friendship arc with Argenta was my favorite part of Rogue Trader's companions.Jae can rot though. I gave her so many chances and she just never became a good character. The part where I gave up for good was when after her secrets gets out, I told her she could just stop pretending and she told me to fuck off.
>>585377849Wife away on a girls trip to Vegas!
>>585377849he takes time out of his gardening to laugh at the Shogun 2 disaster
>>585377849*retired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_tFbLonqUYLOL
>>585377425Fantasy's death goes beyond Chapterhouse. The setting had been struggling for years before the End Times came about, both due to narrative stagnation and poor tableotp rules. GW really didn't know where to take the game, and by the end it was making less money than GW's painting products.Even having been re-released as Old World, Fantasy remains at the back of GW's "big four" settings.
>>585377919I didn't really dislike anyone in RT, but I certainly did not care for everyone. Abelard is the goat anyway
>>585376594Glad I'm not alone. The drama is getting a bit ridiculous. S2CE came out of nowhere for me, I didn't ask for it, I don't need it, so the fact that it's a gigantic failure means literally nothing.
>>585375363EXECUTIONERS
AIslop franchise..
Man they really need to fix Seige AI, they just refuse to move their defenders. You put your army in the trees on one side of the map, put some furies or fast units exposed on the other side of the map, the AI puts their army on the side with the visible faries, then just doesn't fucking move at all while your army climbs an entirely undefended wall and walks in to capture the control point.
>>585378847translation we use AI when we think nobody will notice
>>585378847Oh good, maybe they'll finally start coming out with content on a reasonable timeline for once.
>>585378953I've noticed that different siege maps make the AI behave differently. Some maps just shuts the AI down completely
Wuh?
>>585380029pay up buddy
>>585378847We use pull request AI analysis at work. It just means AI helps us find potential bugs we missed. It's great. It would be retarded to NOT use AI. The only thing that matters is the final product. If it's good it's good. If it's bad it's bad.
>>585380374>The only thing that matters is the final product. If it's good it's good. If it's bad it's bad.Unless it's a mod
so what the heck am i supposed to build here? I don't want to mess up the YING AND THE YANG but there's nothing else worth building.
>>585380470.. then what?
>>585380029It's a bug, CA is aware of it.
>>585380794Build the abandon settlement building. Top left square.
>>585381025Using AI for modding is unethical
playing nagashmonsters or cavalry
>>585380794There are advantages to having it be imbalanced
At this point SEGA should just dissolve CA and hand over the games to Claude
Claude Assembly
>>585375493One of the VERY few decently written parts of End Times was Teclis sitting on Ulthuan as it was swallowed by the waves next to his brothers corpse, regretting all the decisions he had made that got him to that point. Tyrion was the one guy who always treated Teclis as an equal and was the best brother possible, and in the end Teclis helped destroy him along with all the other traitors, since he felt that was the only way to save the Elves. Tyrion really is the most tragic character in WHFB outside of Archaon himself.
>>585381808good one
>>585367370Take a ticket and get in line.
Had to cheese vlad because his army was like 15 bats.
>>585370282>shogun ruins fantasy total warHow ? TWW3 is the only product they have on the market right now. If that guarantees one thing, it’s that they need to churn out fantasy DLCs to make cash.
>>585369293He promised to review the game after the siege rework, CA has been pushing off the siege rework ever since.According to the ex-dev on reddit, the siege rework has always been fake news because CA management doesn't want to put money into a project that they can't sell and they can't sell Siege Rework DLC.
Remembered anon's suggestion from the other day. That characters on foot should be immune to knockback. It was so retarded.
Took 40 turns of constant armies, but vlad is finally dead.. for now.
Is the discord just a hivemind of yes-men? Is that why CA thinks things are better than they are so often?
>>585371756You should look at TWW1, 2, and 3 as one single game (or even game 1 and 2 as just a huge DLCs for TWW3).There is no story/plot.
>>585382928People are naturally inclined to be nicer when 1) they aren't on 4chan, 2) people from CA might actually be listening, 3) there are moderators listening 4) You have a recognisable account and people can remember the previous things you've said.
>>585375493
>>585376594He wasn't saying Shogun 2 is going to destroy TW40k, he was saying it's hard to be optimistic for 40k when Shogun2 was so shit
>>585380029It means one of the AI vampire factions confederated Kemmler.This isn't supposed to happen if a player is playing VCounts or Nagash.
>>585382169>Canonical recreation of the first vampire war>>585382928According to the ex-dev, yes, that's one of the big problems. Apparently everyone who saw Shogun 2 knew it wasn't ready, but SEGA found a handful of players who said it was good, so they greenlit the launch.
total war fuckin sucks
So how is a normal Neferata campaign supposed to work? I did one with my mate and he played one of the Chorfs below her starting position. Because of that, I was forced to go left against the greenskins, which also rubbed the dwarves the wrong way. So I sold them 1 province each, which allowed me to vassalize them. I also sold Franz one province for the same reason.Vassalizing others seems to be a necessary thing to get Vlad but it feels like I trivialized the campaign within a few turns.
>>585380029Have the portrait assets been posted anywhere? I'd like clean HD versions of Neferata and Dieter.
>>585384635t. youtuber whose career depends on making people believe this
Do you prefer to play an LL who makes you feel like your brain is big, or do you prefer to play an LL who makes you feel like a retard having retard fun?
>>585385013>brain is biglol
>>585385013right clicing tamurkhan into the enemy army and jacking off while he solos every lord and unit makes me feel like a gigabrain
>Multiple Total War creators got access to unique DoW4 beta>Dawn of War shilltubers including big ones like Indrid didn'tThey want (you) to play DoW4
How do I get rid of this fag? He's been begging every 5th turn the past 30.
>>585385398>it's influencer sloprip
>>585385398maybe because the game looks like fucking shit compared to dow 1 and 2
loli
>>585385434Have heroes move through Stirland.His hidden cities are always under stirland the moot, and rarely one of the neighboring provinces.He never respawns once dead, so you just have to find/burn his places down.
>>585385398I'm probably gonna play it but only until TW40k.
Has there been a faction thats needed a specific LL more than how much Tzeentch needs Egrimm? Kairos and Changeling are so ass, they desperately need an LL who isn't a massive nerd.
>empire wants me to join war against the trees>decline>next turn 5 of their settlements are gone and entire faction are deadI think I should have prepared for rat-traps instead of raping nurgle..>>585386054Ugh, such a chore.
>>585386320>an LL who isn't a massive nerd.I don't understand. This disqualifies the character you're asking for in the same post.
>>585386320Okay but what will Egrimm bring with him and where would he be placed? Can't do cults which was his whole thing because Changeling co-opted it.
>>585386320So far every monogod faction other than tzeench has 1) A lord based on a greater daemon (kugath the great unclean one, kaiross the lord of change, skarbrand the bloodthirster, n'kari the keeper of secrets, 2) A lord based on an exalted regular demon herald (Skulltaker the skullreaper, epidemius the plaguebringer, masque the daemonette) and 3) A lord based on a mortal (Arbaal the undefeated, Dechala and Tamurkhan)
>>585386120just like everyoneactually, people will probably beat campaigns and uninstall after that
>>585387038>2 on 1 synced animationCA could never
>>585387256Claude however
>>585383317It makes sense for CA employees to dick ride CA, why do random people do it?Any criticism gets ignored or shut down
>>585385398no guard, no eldar, no tau, no buy.
>>585387574MAN I wish Exodites were a full faction, I'd play them in a heartbeat.
>>585387574>no guard, no [who?], no [who?], no buyMany are saying this.
>>585387038>the skipped frames as they lock into animations>the sluggish movements>the entities attacking mid-airExtremely grim
>>585387774I think this whole matched combat thing will have dire consequences for any potential competitive scene.
>>585387038Why couldn't they just stick to sync kills instead of this retarded ass system?
>>585387540Despite all their failings, CA is still ahead of 80% of strategy devs. Look at Paradox, total ass.>Any criticism gets ignored or shut downLiterally everyone shat on them for Shogun
>>585387963dow was never competitive because it was always style over substance. idk how 3 was but they were trying to make it esports before they just abandoned the game.
>>585388085honestly im guessing you are retarded or a nigger
>>585387757>>585387963>>585388008Uh-oh CA-sissies are mad.
>>585387963>dow>competitiveHoly shit CA shills are COPING
>>585388161If DOW1 was a RTSand DOW2 was a RTTThen DOW3 was a MOBAAnd now DOW4 has gone back to RTS
>>58538823940k looks even worse though2 turds don't cancel out eachother
Dawn of War 4, or as we in the know call it, Realms of Ruin 2.
I will play both games
>40keks arguing over which turd looks less shittyWhy are they like this?
>>585387038>>585387774Aren't combat sync animations done independently of the unit stats? ie it's just purely visual
>>585388326yes but the dumb animation locks and iframes along with shit balance never made them a mainstay in the competitive scene. i don't expect 4 to change anything.
>>585388161DoW1 wasn't competitive because Relic is retarded and can't balance their fucking games.DoW2 has a pretty big competitive scene. Yes, not had. Has. The game's competitive scene is still alive and unironically bigger than WH3s. The secret to its success is that THQ going bankrupt forced Relic to stop patching the game, so the community just took over and made it into a good game themselves. They've added two new factions over the years as well.DoW3 was a wannabe moba and was doomed to failure from the start because moba's are competitive genre's by design and Relic can't do competitive games because they're retarded and can't balance their games. Also it was a moba, which was extra retarded. It died a merciful early death and is consigned to the bin of forgetting.Jury's out on DoW4 since it's not being developed by Relic but since DoW is mostly not a competitive genre I seriously doubt many fans care about that too much.
>>585388585holy supernova of gigatruth
>>585388784Either way it looks poorly implemented. The skipped frames and mid-air attacks probably won't be noticed during gameplay, but the way that they're animated as though they're submerged in molasses really sticks out to me. Maybe the webm is being played in slow-motion, in which case it's noting to worry about.
So what happens up in Kislev?
>>585389161My dick up in her pussy
>>585389025It's quite sad that this game single-handedly killed any chance of TW:AoS by revealing that nobody in the gaming space gives a shit about Age of Sigmar.>>585389161Putin made Russia problematic media
>>585386320>Kairos: access to cults>Changeling: specialized in cultsWhat is Egrimm's gimmick? A second lord specialized in cults?
whats the best way to get food in shogun 2?
>>585389452Specialized in cults... but only ONE cult, in Altdorf, where he has to spread his influence over the colleges of magic and doing so gives his faction bonuses, with the best ones requiring that you actually take over Altdorf directly.
>>585389452consumes cults to create super cults
>>585387038Not gonna lie, it's not looking very good.
>>585389161Katarina is a teen queen with magical talent groomed by a lesbian cultKostaltyn has seen horrors beyond comprehension and wants everyone to experience that too
>>585387038You guys don't get it, those Dark Angels are just walking the forest.
>>585389838waow Kostaltyn is literally me
>>585387038conflicted feelings>orc at bottom left with nothing to do, poses, shoots wildly, and swings at air>random animation skips>two orcs ganking the fuck out of a space marine>an orc missing his belly flop>an orc drop kicking a spessmurinmore fun to look at than the infantry melee in warhammer3 tbqhfams
>>585389972someone post the image of the guy getting spooked by his portrait
>>585389309tabletop and GWS drones are the only people I've seen that actually like age of shitmar. it's just a super unappealing setting compared what fantasy was. the end times writing was also hilarious bad. age of shitmar was just forced super hard by GWS and it didn't work out. i understand why they wanted to mix fantasy up but they did everything wrong.
>>585389161Peace in THE Ukraine and normalization with RuZZia before amerilards midterm.So Kislyiv DLC very SOON.
>>585389161disappointed
>>585385398
>>585390058Here you go, m'lord
>>585390157always gets a loud exhale from me, thanks lad
>>585389309>nobody in the gaming space gives a shit about Age of Sigmar.The PCG reviewer was clearly very emotionally invested.
well i gave it a try atleast...
>>585385398DoW4 looks meh. Total War for me.
>>585390221I always do that when I look myself in the mirror.
>>585390795Was it worth the $60?
>>585390070Statistically Age of Sigmar is doing fine. It's got its audience, the audience just isn't us.
>>585390795Looks like you had a blast!
>>585391563Age of Sigmar is owning the chuds like Bioware
>still at 24 minutesusotsuki...
>>585391814I don't want to blast too hard and blast myself out
>>585391042damn...
>>585391757You can still refund it
>>585392318But I'm having a blast! And CA+SEGA will make it even blastier in the future
>>585387963>I think this whole matched combat thing will have dire consequences for any potential competitive scene.EXTREMELY based
>>585387774>>585389091>the sluggish movementsThis is slowed down, i took it from zerkovich and tried to speed it up. I'm in playtest but cant post my own videos since game is watermarked with my data showing on screen constantly in random placesAnimations are much faster and fluid than slowass Total War. Total War 40k looks like it will be much more realistic, serious and indepth, DoW4 is cartoonish as hell and arcadey which is what feels the most offBut melee combat looks so much better here than in TW40k, let alone TWW. It mogs TW utterly. Expect a lot of comparisons between DoW4 and TWW40k in this regard flooding web. Like that evolution of gunpowder units in Total War comparisons scott cripple does>>585390038>more fun to look at than the infantry melee in warhammer3 tbqhfamsMelee in TWW games looks like an absolute garbage with units swinging at air, having dumb jumping animations and using shockwaves everywhere. At least some of the newer units don't look as dumb, but TWW1 factions are in a dire state in particular because of thisBut DoW4 is very cartoony on other hand>>585390152Direction in all cinematics rapes them completely. George Droyd one is infamous already>>585388784Can't really say. But it's not like units drop dead out of nothing. It sync animations try to trigger for every bit of interaction between units, even when those are routing>>585388008https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH42hhsTq8MWhat do you mean? It's all sync animations and sync kills triggering all the time and randomizing for constant variety
>>585392468>CA+SEGA will make it even blastier in the futurethat being said, they can go fuck themselves. I hold no loyalty to corporations. If they keep making good games I will discuss their products. If things change I will go somewhere else.
Tried to get into DoW1 but seemed pretty meh...
>>585392897DoW1 is played mostly for the story.Winter Assault is played mostly because GorgutzDark Crusade is the one people still come back to years laterSoulstorm is the one played for the overhaul modsDoW2 is played for the gameplayChaos Rising is played for how laughable it isDoW3DoW4 has people hoping it'll be good, but there's been a lot of reasons for concern.
>>585393156nigga like nigga just go play the other RTS they made and see for yourself, its like a free beta nigga (also lowkey it is complete ass, my nigga)
>>585391563Sure, its doing 'fine'. However outside TT autists its literally an unknown entity and will forever remain so. No one who would ever get into the hobby sees a nappy haired black woman in full golden plate fighting fantastical enemies - and thinks "woah, cool. I wonder what this setting is about" There is no new blood coming in and never has been. Just people coping due to WHFB model line updates for greenskins etc, GW hating contrarians and trannies who want to own the chud's.The public zeitgeist of what 'Fantasy' is barely extends beyond the LotR movies, Harry Potter, and Narnia. Even D&D is still niche nerd territory as is MTG. They both fail to retain new blood by being weirdly and ostensibly pandering to 'modern audiences' and most normies looking to step their toes into fantasy end up swinging away into anime or just not bothering.40k meanwhile is filling the Star Wars/Trek vacuum from their mutual suicides. Sure ToW is still niche and will never not be with the retcons like female Brettonian knights. Women got into Marvel movies because the men and masculine roles were filled with manly men and they could feign interest 'in the current thing' while perving on the actors.Women dropped the whole comic book scene like hotshit the second the credits rolled on End Game. The pandering following that, and consequent failures are exactly what GW has done with AoS and ToW and WotC have been doing for decades.So sure, AoS is doing 'fine'. Another description is stagnating. They have their core base and that is all they will ever have. No tie-in will ever get it more traction and we now have 10+ years of proof. DoW for example was most peoples first interaction with Warhammer at all. Who played Realms of Ruin? Who looked at the trailer or the art and was intrigued? Apparently about 2000 people globally.First impressions are extremely important and judging by the cover is absolutely the default.
List of RTS franchises that have stood the test of time>Age of Empires>Starcraft>WarcraftError: Field too long.
>>585393462Bring back TA/SupCom...
>>585393451>Who played Realms of Ruin? Who looked at the trailer or the art and was intrigued? Apparently about 2000 people globally.RoR is pretty fun, but the Stormcast are boring as sin. Everyone else is fun. Plus it is fun to play on Steam Deck.
>>585393156I will at the very least give DoW4 a try. I'm not invested though so since no connection to the series anyway so whatever
>>585393726blast status?
>>585391128i think i got it for like $5 off a keysite a while ago.>>585391563i've been thinking of trying a campaign with it. apparently somebody made a mod that fixed a lot of issues with it but i haven't looked into it.
>>585393726I am glad you and apparently 150 other people are having fun.You could even say you are having a blast!
>>585393451dude who the fuck cares. like how much a follower counting faggot r u? try looking at something and seeing if it appeals to you for half a second and you might actually enjoy life a bit more than whatever weird fuckup obsession cult shit you are engaging in
Games whose longevity is based around multiplayer PvP require a certain level of player retention for them to function.Chartfagging makes a bit of sense in that case.
I can't wait for TWW4. CA will learn only Fantasychads are worth appealing to.
Yes I want TWW4TotalWarWarhammer40K
>>585392647>Direction in all cinematics rapes them completely. George Droyd one is infamous alreadywhat the fuck are you talking about
>>585394352What else would they add? Fix sieges and call it 4?
Let's be real /twg/, it's the desire to be the next starcraft that doom many RTS games and I hope we got more SP focused RTS instead.
>>585394282what would they even add for a 4? the map is already too big and the remaining factions are not interesting at all aside from maybe nippon. I don't really care about ind or araby. dogs of war would be a fun faction but that's just tilea stuff at this point. TWW4 would be neat if it had major reworks for every faction but that can be done through more 3 DLC anyway.
>>585394657ye i couldn't be less interested in mp games
Whats the current state of Shogun 2? I heard they added AI slop to it, I haven't bought it since I knew CA would manage to fuck it up just like the Rome demaster.
>>585394787You can't buy the new one anyway. It's a rare gem now.
Are Indians just the real life version of the Skaven?>live in filth>brutal inter-caste cultural warfare>odd verbal tics>culture based primarily around lying, scamming and betrayal>only able to appear civilized for the purpose of betrayal>found in the bowels of every city on Earth>quickly overrunning the entire world
>>585394526It's nonsenscial. Everyone shoots at point blank and can't hit each other EXACTLY like in >>585390152 Everyone has a stupid level of plot of armor in them. Choreography in those cinematics is abhorrent. Characters take ages to take any action. And ranged units rush to fight enemy in melee, miss every shot and diehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB1sxrBxKwQAfter playing it, it feels surreal how fucking shit cinematics are compared to animations in game
>>585394861It got the Hyenas treatment?
>>585394960unfortunately it is a metaphor for humanity's nature, and you are exemplifying it now....
>>585394960Everyone is only obsessed with pajeets because they can't fight blacksIt's like "oh there's a wolf chewing at my door but uhh I'm going to go fight this rat instead"
it's a rare piece of CA history that may never return. I'll never refund it because $10 is nothing.
>>585395084It got pulled after being out for 2 days or something
>>585393462Total War, since Shogun 1 to TWW3 (ongoing).
>>585394769https://start-warhammer.com/theoldworld/
>>585393941Uh oh, touched a nerv, did I?It's literally a cursory interest and observation from 20 years of TT, both in stores and tourney's as well as a club of 40+ members more than half of which have their wives/gf's and kids involved.In stores across the city I live in I have seen every stereotype that exists for TTYou know who mostly shows up to to Star Wars days? Dad and their sons and mostly chill guys.You know who shows mostly up for Bolt Action? Dad's and their sons and history autists and otherwise sociable people.You know who is the vast majority of AoS irl? Disgusting trannies, their 'supporters' and meta fags all of which need showers and deodorant and a fucking haircut and shave.40k has plenty of 'people' of low quality as well but the vast majority at least if you stay away from certain areas, are just average people who enjoy the hobby and have roped in their immediate friends, family and kids. That is why we have a club, to vet people so we have no incidents like the autist that painted his Nurgle daemons with his own shit and women(men) in dresses trying to talk to kids.Ironically not even American and the surest way to sniff out you weirdo's is to post a Trump meme on the facebook page and wait for the reaction. Its like a magic spell. I dont even like Trump, its just an extremely useful filter
>big skaven fag>never really cared for ikit clawI like the units in his dlc, but i was never really good at skryre maxxing.I usually have like 2 arty and 3 guns and then i figure i need enough width to screen for them. I know the legend tactic is to have like 6 plague priests and just spam vermintides, but I’d rather play honest. (Yes, ironic as skaven but you know what I mean).Don’t even mention gun factions in sieges also.
>2 caradryans
>>585395547that's a new game, that's not really a 4. If anything that's like a rise of the samurai type DLC but for warhammer, which would be neat but naming it 4 would be a bad idea.
>>585390070>>585393451>>585395637@gork, summarize dis
>>585395637is this a copypasta or is this nigga seriously about to kill himself?
>>585395734Do they share the same voice ?
>>585395713Weapons teams spam is fucking gay-cringe, Skaven is about TRVE Vermintidehttps://youtu.be/k8EQ1KNkpmw?t=13
>>585395637~And yet you still failed to talk about what you like or what makes you happy~ in all these paragraphs~ kufufufu
>>585387774>Extremely grimGrave, even?
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>>585396164You are not a cute anime girl. You are a grown man who should have hair on your chest.If you insist I like doing free weight exercises between turn times. ToW is great for it with its 3 min+ turns.
>>585393451>>585395637From what I understand doing 'fine' is a lot better than how it was doing for the old WFB.It's also I think not a great example to point out that its had some mediocre videogames considering how many mediocre videogames the other warhammers have, they're kinda infamous for having a lot of crappily warhammer branded shovelware, with a handful of famous exceptions like total war and dawn of war.You wrote a lot of words but I don't really get what the point of them are. You complain that "nobody would ever get into the hobby if there's a black woman in it" and "there's no New blood comin in" and then complain that there are people getting into the hobby with sexualities you don't like. I think you're confusing your hatred of the gender people with the objective success of a business that is popular with them.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3846830/view/684142629662759164Does /twg/ still trust CA?
>>585396601i just hope for the best and expect the worse
>>585396601never
>>585394787Apparently SEGA hired a third party company to do the remaster, who fucked it up while CA was busy working on other projects.It was bad enough to be immediately pulled from the store.
>>585395637>surest way to sniff out you weirdo's is to post a Trump meme on the facebook page and wait for the reaction. Its like a magic spell. I dont even like Trump, its just an extremely useful filter>merely pretending to be retarded
>>585396730SEGA said they want shogun 2 remastered.CA said noSEGA said they want itCA said they don't have timeSEGA said we'll get the cheapest company we can to do itMataboo said we'll do it for peanutsSEGA said good, here you go MatabooAccording to leaks/ex-CA employees, everyone at CA knew this was a bad idea, except for a few people at the top and no one was going to tell SEGA they're being dumb.Mataboo puts out the game without an QAShit storm startsSEGA takes the blame and apologizesGame is removed from storesCA also apologizes and says they're now moving people off of mainline TW games to fix Shogun2
>>585396601I have their back
>>585396484>people getting into the hobby with sexualities you don't likeMental illness is not a sexuality. They were already in it just not ideologically captured until post 2012. I am old enough to remember literal faggots calling other people faggot as a by word for stupid or a shit person and no one cared outside pearl clutching retirees and feminists.Also your strawman rivals the Great Pyramids.You know damn well I was referring to pic related as a masculine warrior ideal. I will not respond again, you are a bad faith argumentative faggot. Go buy some rope.
>>585397350>masculine warrior ideal.>warhammer players
>>585363365>40K RAA ROO!!!
>>585397350member when "transexuals" were just "transvestites" and it was more like a comedy routine?
>>585372301the level of the necropolis, if there is any obsidian resource and or special landmark that will transfer to you, no necropolis or anything else no sigils
>>585395971Erm, looks like we don't actually
>>585400468Feels good to be on the right side of history :)
>>585387574guard and tau are whatever factions to leave out of initial release, that's fine who really caresadmech getting in on initial release is a huge headscratcher though, having two human factions who are ostensibly same team (imperium vs imperium happens every other week but you get what i mean) is really weird for two of your four initial army slots and makes the starting factions weird (ramshackle horde faction, heroic elite faction, intimidating slow-and-implacable faction, techy shooty faction). i think eldar would have been a much better launch faction to contrast necrons (zippy squishy faction vs slow tanky faction), but i guess they didn't want mostly aliens or wanted to try something different? maybe the space marines are gonna be way more about zippy map control and surgical attacks this time around?
why does neferata wear a smash bros stage on her head
>>585401529to increase her sex appeal
>>585386320I though the old narrator would gonna be related to Egrimm.
>>585401412Space Marines feel like they play DoW2 microing their few units and their abilities while stretched thin across the map while three others play Ultimate Apocalypse spamming units endlessly in every direction. Marines feel the weakest because of this. Spamming tier 1 units to overwhelm enemy and capture map seems to be meta and Marines can't do that really. AI does it nicely so Orks are especially oppressive to fight against. Marine AI sucks and for you, you have to put a lot of effort to win as them
>the AoS faggot is in here again trying to shill for that garbage settingLoving every laugh whenever I see how many cancelled AoS events there are these days compared to when they first launched that shit and shilled it hard. Dying (soon to be dead) corporate garbage devoid of any soul whatsoever. Which is why their only claim to fame is the models (only reason why anyone would bother spending a single dollar on that trash).
>>585386320Tzeentch 100% desperately needs a mortal champion lord yeah>Kairos and Changeling are assChangeling is too easy to be boring, true, but Kairos is fun. You can really easily migrate to Bretonnia on game start as him if you don't wanna deal with the south pole, just sell your starting province to the minor daemons near you if someone tries to declare war and take it>Not a massive nerdEgrimm is objectively more of a nerd than Kairos and the Changelingpost yfw Egrimm spawns in the Chaos Wastes right next to Daniel and Epidemius
>tfw playing Wood ElvesHow do I make the forest health thing reach 500 quicker?I'm at 430-something and it feels like it's taking too long.I control all of the heathland around Athel Loren except 1 area that is controlled by a faction that isn't an ally or enemy.Does fighting and destroying enemies further out from the heathland make any difference to the forest health?
>>585402304>Does fighting and destroying enemies further out from the heathland make any difference to the forest health?No.I mostly remember warring with factions then putting armies in ambush stance so they'd come to me to die near my tree.
>>585396601i can still consider CA as subpar developers, AND believe this story - the thing was obviously FULLY outsourced, outside of their hands, given that SEGA has them by the balls and can do this stuff without CA's approval or recommendationi dont think they'll ever pay off the hyenas tax, and that's just depressing - there's no competition in the genre, CA should have free and infinite reign and they just keep dropping the ball. Why? It's not like they're in the same situation as Bungie where they have infinite money and can just keep being incredibly incompetent for years
>>585402304Doesn't completing the other forest rituals make the Oak charge up fasterLike Wood Elves are secretly a sandbox campaign where you go wherever the hell you want and fight whoever the hell you want within only a few turns march of any forest, have you only been turtling around Athel Loren?
>>585401412In case you or others didn't know New (10 years old now) space marines do the eldar thing of lots of high tech interlocking specialist units in zippy transports.
>>585402631>have you only been turtling around Athel Loren?Yeah kind of. I've spent most of my (Durthu) campaign with only 1 army. I have 2 armies now.
Did they severely nerf N'kari's mindbreak mechanic? This is turn 38 and I cannot for the life of me build up seduction whereas in the past I'd have probably all these guys as vassalsI hate slaanesh replenishment btw
>>585403097He got nerfed when the HElves got their update
>>585402864Wood Elves get hilarious wacky stacks from razing settlements, use those to afford to tech up. I usually start teleporting to the next forest the moment I can afford an extra army to watch the place I'm leaving behind (either dipping into the red if I know I'll be razing enough for it, or really edging a net zero income). As long as the trees themselves stay safe, you can do whatever or go wherever the hell you want.
>start up a Brettonia campaign>Louen's quest armour is fucking +30 armour and 10% ward save....Brettonia desperately needs an overhaul. Meanwhile undead can spawn generals with 4 slots of top tier blue gear.
>>585402304You're supposed to be doing the others, mainly because while one is in effect another can't be startedI don't even want to think how many turns of sitting in woods you'll have to do if you do with Athel Loren as your first ritual
Its over for CA isn't it...Millions must prompt
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3121694491Has anyone tried this mod?Wondering if it's any good, but it's a bit too involved for me to just load a cheats campaign to test it out.Also it seems to clash with audio from some of my other mods because it relies on audio mixer, so that's a bit of a bitch.
prompt terrorists are out for blood
dogpiling continues...
Claude make me a video about Shogun 2 CE and CA. Make the title funny in a smug way. Clickbait thumbnail. No effort. A handful of mistakes!
Can Vampire counts not do local recruitment anymore ? Only raise the dead ?
>>585404364how does RAM/CPU usage look for the game with and without the TIMBER! mod? i've been curious to test a lot of the ai mods like that because vibecoded stuff usually has abysmal optimization, but i never got around to it
>>585403463Oh. So what's his game plan now? Spam disciple armies and turtle since Slaanesh economy is shit or what's there even to do? Cults seem kind of worthless now and if I can't vassalize meatshields Idk how to break the Helf blob. I can take one settlement in either direction but that leaves the other open and that offensive battle takes a chunk out of my units so that I'm fucked trying to replenish when the next archer stack hits. I might just restart and fuck outta Ulthuan to Bretonnia or something
>>585403097you are supposed to rush the gate to keep the outer donut sealed off while you can expand easier.
>>585396601>we don't use AI to create our game assets>we just use AI to create our game assetsAm I reading this right or did I have a stroke?
>>585396601I have literally never trusted CA for as long as I've cared to follow them and content drops consistently. Perennial doubt of The Creative Assembly is the only thing they deserve because every time they do well they inevitably fuck up again not long after. CA is only as good as their most recent thing.
>>585405246I don't notice a difference, system temp is 1 degree higher than normal, 41 degrees celsius instead of 40 but I have a 4080, 64 bit of DDR6, NVME and a 13900k I9.Mileage may vary?
>>585385398phobos marines just arent cool like first born scouts were.
Rome or Rome II?
>>585405880elon musk?????
>>585406376Space Rome 3: Revenge of the Cyber-Shogun
>>585406385No. I have a job, nigger.
How do I get corpses for my provinces that aren't on the frontt?
>>585406376Attila, but with the new mod that fixes performance issues
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>>585407029What faction? I usually was able to never run out simply by existing(everyone hates Vcunts) and then harvesting from the frontline. You move on and then rinse and repeat
>>585363008>Shades have the associated baggage of being the most OP armour piercing ninja archer in the game.Giving herrimaults armor piercing would be fine. Their whole point is robbing knights after all. Shadow warriors are usually better for ninja archers
>>585354335Total War: Stone Age, when?
