#Store link:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378900/The_Coffin_of_Andy_and_Leyley/# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):>Routes & Subrouteshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3545926625>Achievementshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198>Stars & Visionshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459534675>Complete Episode 2 Walkthroughhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644>Episode 3 Endings Guidehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3148380245# News:>Episode 3A: Decay has been released!https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223>[JULY 2026] development "paused due to legal matters". However, Burial is confirmed to be the next episode. Nemlei to sponsor a "Coffin-likes" game jam.https://steamcommunity.com/games/2378900/announcements/detail/702146248223754712# Nemlei's previous games:https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSIPrevious thread: >>584927352
First for Ashley
Opening the thread with an acknowledgment of indigenous voices
>>585399842Sexy
pigleyswineleyhogleysowleyporkleyhamleybaconleysausageshleychineleychopleyhockleybelleytrottershleychitterlingshleyloinleyacornleyswilleyboardrew
>>585400148Fuck off Marlon Brando!
>>585352582What is it about grinding that makes me so feral?>>585356058What is also it about a girl's face pushing against a cock that makes me so feral? The important questions.
>>585400148Julia fucking sucks, and not in a good way.
>>585400772It's so hot. Especially from these two.
>>585400980Verily.
https://x.com/milkymilk667/status/2113738888699076674/photo/1
>>585400980I wonder if it's more men or women drawing ashley rubbing against the hard bock?
>>585400148Oldfags get what they DESERVE
>>585401301cute 'shley
>>585386890>My sister gets more and more cute every time I see her. I wish I can just kiss her on the noseNothing is stopping you! Go, Anon, go!
>>585400772Anons, it's time for sibling confession. Have you ever grinded with your sister? I was the big spoon one night and suddenly got unreasonably horny until I started rocking my hips against her. I had to stop because I was about to splooge in my pants. Is this sexual harassment?
>>585405681You're not getting me that easily, special agent pablo.
>>585405681I tried staring at my sisters tits and ass, felt nothing other than guilt.
>>585405681The first time I got drunk with my sister she started grinding on me and said "You're getting harder." I was not in fact getting harder because I was drunk as fuck
How do you give your sister a bow without it being weird?
>>585405549CUTE!
>>585381537They call this kinema
>>585413029Giving her a bow makes it seem like you want her to appear more childish or wholesome, so in doing so, you're implying that she looks old or slutty. You should get her something sexy so she thinks that you like her how she is and that you're interested in seeing more skin.
>>585414263Creator here. I didn't even notice how I made the spider brown until after lmfao
>>585414263This could have been OP...
>>585415623Next thread, maybe. Hopefully next one is on time for Halloween.
>>585416021sounds like a plan, the previous lasted 4 days
>>585416595Is that including or not including the PHP downtime
>>585417879including. Was like an 18 hour gap in posts
>>585417879If you exclude the downtime it lasted about 4 days and 5 hours. With, it lasted about 5 days and 1 hour.
>>585414302>makes it seem like you want her to appear more childish or wholesomeWhat if she's already into gothic lolita?
>>585418398Oh I'm WELL deep into gothic lolitas
I'm deep into hugging my sister.
I'm deep into floozing my hussies
>>585424752Ashley needs more burgers
>>585426949All sisters need a burger or twelve.
>>585428976Holy shit this is ultra cute.
>>585418048>>585418161more like 21 hour gap>>585176457>>585177098
>>585430860All firsts should belong to hussies
>>585431321First sacrifice
>>585405681Oh boy, well... I don't have a sister but I have a habit of grinding myself, along with getting VERY horny in and around sleep. So I have always feared sleeping with literally anybody by my side for years now, it hasn't happened yet but someday it may and on that day God save the hipbone of the poor feller sleeping next to me in 4 in the morning or wherever the fuck I end up grinding against.
>>585431321"Hussie" is used for Neener, "floozie" is the word used for the jewess. Don't get it confused.
>>585433447The jewess isn't a foozy, she never tried to steal Andrew, and she's a -5/10 in Coffinland anyway.
>>585433710Yenta wife gonna get me a 0% APR loan.
>>585434197they still want fees
>>585434701Well, they *are* jewish.
>>585434197It's got to keep up with inflation, you'll get 10% simple interest and a fixed 5-year term.
>>585433710>>585434803she's a 15/10 in my heart
>>585439034NemNem is so cute, in all of her forms.
>>585440327NemNem is a fucking prostitute who uses semen as toothpaste and lets old men piss in her mouth. This is what she does instead of releasing devlogs, if you can believe it.
>>585442179I don't believe it. She's adorable and sweet, and if we weren't married to our respective siblings we'd be married with each other in another life.
>>585442348nta but can confirm, she sucked my dick so hard it hurt to get an erection for a week
>>585442525Shut up kit9
>>585399783
>>585447241>retard hot
>>585447241>big love andrew need hours feelsNow ain't that the truth
>>585447241>ashley always meant niceTRVKE
>>585447241>hussies forgive siblingsJudgement comes from the Lord only
>>585447241>please australia dead burialSorry mates.
>>585449352Based Ashley. NEVER wageslave (if you can avoid it.)
>>585447241>posting play things makes artist reason Wren wonder large spinsters worryIs that why we're not getting new wrt?
>>585447241>pregnant opportunity bedroom happened problems happen arguing australia sounds worse worse makes julia sisterWhich of you bogan fuckers got Jane pregnant? You better take responsibility.
>>585433710The jewess in question is Jewlia.
>>585450063Nah, they fucked Julia's mom after she had a fight with her husband. She has a new sister 20 years younger than her now.
>>585434975Seems to be so in /calg/arian hearts in general.
>>585450157Ah, that makes more sense.
>>585450157>R*nee was the low impulse control wild child kind of teen mom>Julia's mom was the very very very Christian kind of teen mom
>>585450193ruined, -5/10
>>585447241>andrew's wrart awful
/calg/ I've been working on a theory, but you're pretty much the only place I can think of that would take it seriously enough.It's an argument about why formal marriage exists but using the idea of trust vs potential allies.I think formal marriage is a way to legally create a sister-brother like bond with someone within a nexus of trust and socil contracts within a society focused on the raising of children and maintaining a cohesive and cooperative group.By destroying the concept of marriiage through dlution and undermining you create an incentive for a fallback to a more natural trust relationship, that's assuming you don't go the hard r route
renee foot massage?
>>585452526for simplicity I'll focus on equal stages of shared ancestry.The obvious first choice is your sibling who you grew up in a comparatively trusting equal relationship with. But the major problem with that idea is that ultimatey you create many small groups of highly related individuals competing with each other and vulnerable to coordinated outside aggression. even if you can go 2 or 3 generations deep before the inbreeding becomes a really major issue as long as you have large families and don't let the fuckups breed.Next would be first cousins, less trustworthy than sisters but almost as good since yoou still likely grew up interacting with each other directly and your circle of allies is wider, plus the inbreeding rate won't multiply as fastAs you extend further out through more distant cousins direct trustworthyness declines but this can be mediated for a while through assurances of trust from intermediate relations. the wider relatedness also increases the number of potential alliances. this is where i think formal marriage comes in because it creates a degree of independent assurance of trustworthiness.if you break the trustworthiness of the marriage contract you force people to return to smaller circles of higher trust but a weaker ability to cooperate on large projects That's mostly where I've gotten with it.What's glaringly wrong with it?
>>585452526>>585452761The problem is that the atomization we have also extends to the family. Economic and social conditions favor weak family ties even as the wider community becomes low trust and dysfunctional. This is unprecedented and I think lots of people are just NGMI.
>>585449352Are forms like these actually how people apply for jobs in America? Most of the stuff in that form is just checkboxes I tick concurrently with attaching a resume.
>>585454507Which is why I suspect we're bordering on an emergency stage where the only effective survival option is having a big family with your sibling.I started putting some of my thoughts into coherent words yesterday but it seems I missed a few lines >>>/r9k/85810782still trying to work through my own thoughts on it.I can't tell if this is just coming off some sort of fetishistic idea or that maybe it really is that bad.
Man. I wasted my weekend again
>>585460205the weekend isn't over yet, you silly billy
>>585460398Mine started and ended already
>>585439034
>>585429393>I need COCK, Thiu
>>585448795She would say this
>>585460205.....it's the weekend?
imōsekkusu
>>585464913Say that ten times fast.
>>585465568No.
why does everybody here hate me?
>>585470871
>>585471210Because you deserve it
>>585471210Only faggot tourists hate Ashley, actually.
>>585473043this desu
>>585471210because you post blurry crops
>>585473461We do not insult the humble 480p (The Lord's Resolution) farmer.
Dont mind me. Just another Ashley post on an Ashley Thread on an Ashley Board on an Ashley Website on an Ashley Server in an Ashley Hard Drive on an Ashley Computer in an Ashley room in an Ashley House on an Ashley Street in am Ashley Town in an Ashley State in an Ashley County in an Ashley Country on an Ashley Continent on an Ashley Planet in an Ashley Solar System in an Ashley Galaxy in a Ashley Universe
>>585476246so true oomfie
>>585476484What the FUCK is an "oomfie?"
>>585476620Wouldn't you like to know
>>585476246The Ashley post is made up of characterleys which form wordleys which form sentenceleys
>>585476691Actually, I changed my mind, I don't care anymore.
Oomfshley
>>585476934H-hello oomf!
>>585477003Joomf
>>585476484>>585476620>>585476934>>585477003I know now that "oomf" stands for "One Of My Followers" but I can never read it without thinking of this Mario 64 voice cliphttps://youtu.be/7NFwhd0zsHU
>>585481035Fuck, now it's never leaving my head either.
>>585484578Those sitties
>>585480876Noomf
>>585480876No loafing
Refusing your sister when she asks you for sex is abusive and cruel.
>>585486983Andrew's groping the shit out of those sisters.
>>585490189Tripleys
>>5854906703x cute
>>585490189Cerberushley
><cabertossley>
Snugglecuddle sisters
Struggle Snuggle sisters
>>585471343What is DoL
>>585498678Lolisho rape game
>>585480876
>>585500091Niinalaipälaatikko
>>585490176Going nuts for imoutobutts
Sass
>>585503827sisters should not be hurt.
>>585503827gyattshley
I still think this is the best piece of Coffin fanart I've ever seenhttps://litter.catbox.moe/1hvs54mqj5mrqg6a.jpeg
>>585511636At what point of divorcement from the source material does something cease to be fanart?
>>585512506No correlation
>please look at my gay porn lol no
>>585512836>posts "fan"art>fanart is heavily divorced from the source material>a question is posited as to whether that really qualifies as fanart at that point>these things are not correlatedYou are not a smart person.
>>585512958Artistic liberties, even extreme ones, still count as fanart. The only level of "divorcement" that would lead to it not being fanart is if it no longer includes anything from the game
>>585513209I posited a question, I didn't make an accusation.
>>585513252Uh yeah you asked a question and I answered it. Is this your first time having a conversation?
>>585513462I simply wished to inform you, in case there was any misconception about my motivations. Maybe it's your first time having a conversation.
If the coin lands heads, Burial will show Ashley was a victim of circumstance and a bad culture, and it's a small win her soul isn't even more tarred than it isIf it lands tails, Burial will show everything was Ashley's fault and everyone (Andrew included) would have been better off if she'd killed herselfCall it
>>585513671Ashley WILL leave Andrew in Burial
>>585513671Expecting heads, praying for tails.
>>585513819Yeah, and then she'll marry you, right?
>>585513946Hell no. Dating Ashley would be too much work
>>585513671My coin landed on it's edge, what did yours do?
>>585513671I don't see Nemlei pulling an uniwrenic "Ashley dindu nuffin" but I don't see her making Ashley The Problem either. She'll be just like Andrew, a deeply flawed but ultimately sympathetic person who was dealt a bad hand but now has the power to take fixing things into her own hands.
>>585514019You're already imagining Ashley doing something so insanely out of character it basically defeats the point of the game, not altering a comparatively minor detail like that is like running a 20 mile marathon and stopping three inches from the finish line.
>>585511636I couldn't tell you these were Coffin characters if it wasn't for the dialogue.
>>585512506This point >>585514407
>>585514306If you wanna date Ashley man go for it, I won't judge
>>585514289>uniwrenic
>>585514678>Andrew trains Wren to use Wrenisms because he thought it'd be hilarious
>>585514894>fails english class and gets held back
>>585514894He was right.
>>585514289I'm mostly talking about the backstory when I say this, but to give a serious answer, Decay basically set Ashley up with a serious pro and a serious con. The serious pro is that she is perceptive and individualistic. The serious con is she is naive and arrogant - rather than listen to people and compromise with people, her reflex is to berate them until they agree with her. That doesn't make her malicious (she's a paper tiger before Chapter 1 makes her a cannibal), it just makes her unlikeableSo my hunch is it'll play out something like>Ashley is already unlikeable>Thus becomes an easy target to Mean Girls school dynamics by the """friends""" she had>And hangs herself with the rope they give her, thus having to drop out of high schoolI think Nemlei has to give Ashley more credit than not in her backstory, but even if she didn't go out of her way to deserve it, she won't be able to save herself, or even learn anything from it>>585514116Well would you look at that
>>585513835Where does the story go if all there is to say about Ashley is "She has no redeeming traits and should have already died"?
>>585515734To the good ending duh
>>585515734Nowhere, hence why saying something like that is stupid. Basically every character with any sort of presence has humanizing elements.
Ashley and Renee did nothing wrong
>AshleyFalse>ReneeTrvke
>nobody would have had to die if the kids just moved out instead of leeching off of their parentsRenny was right about this
>>585515997Sources tell me this guy likes big fat wieners in his butt.
>>585516197Nah, that's me
>>585515581I couldn't find a coin pic that was slanted 70/30 (30% her fault) so that'll have to do
>>585516197How did you know?
Ashleyfags are really fucking annoying, so much so that being exposed to them over a long stretch of time has actually soured my opinion of Ashley through osmosis. Andrew deserves better.
faggot above me
>>585516430>AshleyfagsI only see this term used by the mentally-ill tard that haunts /v/ coffin threads.
>>585516430Bro we weren't even waifufagging over her in the time frame of this post, we were verbally slapping her and speculating. Pick your moments
DRIVING IN MY CAR, RIGHT AFTER A SHAG. HEY THAT BUMP, IT LOOKS LIKE A HAG
>they hate the only reason to play this gameKEK, /v/oids btfo
>>585516430>AshleyfagsOnly (you) say this, nigger.
>>585516854>the only reason to play this game
>>585517078The cOFFin of Andy and Leyley
>Replying to obvious bait that was clearly only posted to farm (You)sYep it's retarded Coffinsissies alrightNoellechads would never
>>585517395>Making obvious bait with the clear intention of farming (You)sYep retarded Coffinsissies fall for itThiunation will always
>>585516197Yeah, accurate assessment.
>>585515094>Andy: maybe the inbreeding wasn't such a good idea after all?>Ashley: No you prick, he only failed because you taught him something so obviously wrong, he's near the top of his class in his other subjects. Why did you have to be so cruel, I hate you.>Andy: But you've got to admit it's funny>Ashley: What do you mean funny, he used insurrwrenction in class and the teacher nearly threw him out, I had an official letter of complaint because of you.>Andy: Oh he remembered that one did he? hahaha>Ashley: Fix this mess or we're never having sex again>Andy: huh what!!!
>>585515581This is all believable but even pre-quarantine Ashley was not harmless. At the absolute minimum we'll see her being shitty to Julia, who exists to suffer and seems to have wanted to be her friend for real by high school.
>>585517653>Julia, who exists to sufferBut she escapes happily in every timeline
>>585517827>happilyJulia has a lot of baggage.
>>585518124Hell yeah she does. Baggage for daysUh, I mean she's learning to overcome that with a little help from her friends and will be happy in the end
Need an ending where Julia and Jane turn the tables on Scumdrew and Bitchley
>>585517653Oh she was terrible to her, Julia deserved better. But at the same time, all Ashley was going to do was be a monster in her answering machine and then sulk. Still monstrous, she should be ashamed, but it's not moving onto deliberate sabotage.>seems to have wanted to be her friend for real by high schoolYou think Julia liked Ashley? I won't lie, I'm not sure about this. If we're going to throw past Ashley a bone, that probably looks like being able to call out some Mean Girl level emptiness like how she dodged Douchebag.Nemlei must have held off from showing Ashley and Julia on screen together after this long for a reason, it sticks out once you notice it
Hussy Smashed Faces
Julia induced melty underway
Ashley better.
>>585519043Fact check: true
>>585518723As a Hussy Lover, I look like this.
>>585518660>You think Julia liked Ashley? I won't lie, I'm not sure about this.It's thin but I base it on her portrait in the "friends" painting in Questionable Burial, and the scene where she asks Andrew out. She's upset Ashley doesn't like her and pleased when Andrew says (falsely) that she does. She obviously at least cares what she thinks of her until she permanently sours from her melties over dating Andrew.
>>585519152cutie
>>585519223She the ultimate cutie
>>585519027Last time this happened they spent 50+ posts just melting down about Julia and I can't wait to post Six Eyes after he tries to NTR Andrew, the seethe will be great.
>>585519223>>585519374Ugly fat retard bitch only a brother could love. Can't even cook. Shameful display.
>>585519395>Juliafag persecution fantasy>Wants to post NTR as wellCan't make this shit up.
>>585519182You look like an Impaled head on a pike?
>>585519481Hussies love being cucked by BBC (big brother cock)
>>585519395Holy BASED. And they're still going to do it even after you saying this
>>585519475Uh oh, sister induced melty
>Thread glacially slow for hours>suddenly activity and Juliabaiting, "Ashleyfag"oddly blatant aren't we?
>>585519598Anon, even parenthesizing it like that still doesn't make this shit okay. Now I feel bad for going along with this. Never post that again.
>>585519190I'd forgotten about that, that's such a cute picture and you can draw from it. The best case is you're right, and there were at least some fun memories before Ashley went scorched earth. The worst case is she was using Ashley to make herself more presentable to Andrew, and Ashley had a subconscious hunch
>>585519598don't use that or you'll attract the saars
>>585519598Why are Juliaphobes like this?
>>585519837DO NOT REDEEEEEM
>>585519917>WRENDEEEEEM
>>585519917Benchod bloody bitch
>>585520092>BenchodObviously.
>>585520107"" aren't used like that, it implies they're not siblings
>>585520381It's based off of someone doing this and the caption is usually, "friends". Implying that despite saying they're mere friends (or siblings in this instance), they also fuck like rabbits.
>>585520381gefixt
>>585521725yah thanksMaybe [siblings] or /siblings/ would be funny too though meaninglessoh what about (siblings) implying subtext that despite how they look they're actually siblings?
>>585522138Tell me which font that is, and I'll be able to add as many parentheses as you want
>>585522234Some sort of sanserif What about Arial?
>>585522724It is Arial but stretched vertically so as to make me suffer
>Arial is a typeface (aka “font family”). In fact, what many people refer to as “fonts” are actually “typefaces.”>The meaning of the word “font” has been butchered since the introduction of desktop publishing in the mid 1980s.>What is the true meaning? Directly from Wikipedia, “… a complete character set of a single size and style of a particular typeface.”>In other words, a font is a specific version of a typeface. Arial is a typeface, and 12-point Arial Italic is a font. 14-point Arial Italic is a different font in the Arial font family.>Changing the size of text on a computer is not a significant amount of work, so it might seem silly to think that you’re actually changing the font when you do this. Especially since we think of the font as just the typeface and not its size or style. But, this terminology made a lot of sense before desktop publishing.>The first printing presses used characters that were carved from wood and arranged in order to form a complete sentence, although they were glyphs rather than Latin characters.>This evolved into more modern systems that used metal characters that were more durable. At that time, changing the size of a typeface was a lot of work — it meant you had to pull all of the letters out and reassemble the words with a different set of metal pieces.>It was very expensive for a printer to have multiple styles and sizes of characters available for their press. When a printer bought a new font they would specifically order the typeface (Times, Arial…etc), size (10-point, 12-point…etc) and style (bold, italic…etc).>There was two drawer case for storing each font. The capital letters were in the upper drawer and the other characters were in the lower drawer. That’s why we call them “upper case” and “lower case” letters.Interwrensting
>>585471343That is Hallie (I think, or Tallie), not Alvin. A girl.
>>585523176k
>>585522889Is it Arial-narrow?
>>585523310Probably, but Arial Narrow is only available in the Office 365 suite, which I don't have.
>>585523180Her name is ANDREA
>>585523828Andrea is the fan name for gender bent Andrew
>Ashley/Andrew fanficThat's good.>Trans Female Ashley*vomits*
>>585523762I doubt normal arial parenthesis will look much different unless you want a narrow type font
>>585519190>She obviously at least cares what she thinks of her until she permanently sours from herI honestly think Ashley and Julia were acquaintances up until Andrew talked Ashley out of the massage parlour job. That's when Ashley started the voicemail bullshit.If you look at the "Friends" piece in Episode 2's gallery, Ashley and Julia don't have their teenage fashion; they're clearly in their 20's, still being performative friends. Ashley also happens to know the landline number to Julia's dorm room, which clearly means they were in contact well into Julia's degree. Julia even remarks "I really thought she had been doing a lot better lately...".
>>585524204>>Trans Female Ashley>*vomits*Bigot
>>585524204What abomination did you have the misfortune to encounter?
>>585522138Knock yourself outhttps://files.catbox.moe/giqj7d.7z
>>585524363Nigga really dropped a .7z link
>>585524363>no <siblings>
>>585524686it seems overkill for 5 images but now I probably have 5 trojans too>>585524698or>siblings in green
>>585524698>>585524834I feel you are not appreciating my work here
>>585524979I like this one it gives a sort of comfy vibe I can't explain. which was as I predicted.
>>585484884ikr crazy
>>585484578>>585525826PAIZURI!
>>585524304>I honestly think Ashley and Julia were acquaintances up until Andrew talked Ashley out of the massage parlour job. That's when Ashley started the voicemail bullshit>Abandon your family when she's at her lowest>Validate her every worst fear and ignore her>For a whole year>Only intervene when it's beyond obvious she is about to make terrible life decisions>She learns the only way you will respond is if she baits with manipulation and terrible decisions>you punished her for being a good person and rewarded her for being awful>yfwI'm still not over it
>>585527152unironically TOTAL Andrew death
>>585524304This implies Ashley was able to mask, because there's no way she has any authentic neutral/positive things to say around Julia. Given how much she hated masking, and how clumsy she looks whenever Andrew's around to do the heavy lifting, I'm astonished she learned to do that.Fuck, I NEED to see independent Ashley stuff, I need it badly
On a serious note, what is the best but most realistic outcome for the Graves siblings? imo, and I believe this is possible: them outright rejecting the demons and demon realm, trying to start over fresh in the real world perhaps after acquiring new identities through less than legal means.
>>585527152Ashley refused his attempts to make up before then.
>>585527743>his attempts to make upaka "Ashley please stop being sad, I owe you nothing btw"
>>585527743I'd buy that if I weren't Andrew, because by then it's established she throws these tantrums. Especially true of a teenager. That's what the bunny gift-giving was meant to show, that she's not actually pushing him away. Is it petulant? Yes. Should she do better? Yes. Could this have been avoided had she knuckled up and pressed the issue earlier, instead of suffering in silent self-loathing until she brings it up at the apartment? Yes. Can we really call it refusing his attempts to make up? No. The reality is that Andrew just wanted to avoid facing himself
>>585528538>it's established she throws these tantrumsShe stopped throwing tantrums between the bunny gifts and picrel. That must've been the longest she ever went without a melty.
>>585527610Lord Unknown is way too huge a factor to deal with lightly, there will be sacrifices. If anything there'll probably be some embracing of a demonic natureI can't see any easy escape back into the human world that doesn't involve more crime. But they have at least ???, so if he's willing to play ball then Ashley can work a 9-5 for him and he sets them up somewhere safeBut that's all ignoring the biggest issue of how do they reconcile. I legitimately don't know how you can fix Andrew without Ashley shaping up, and I legitimately don't know how Ashley in Decay can shape up in the span of one chapter
>>585528764After enough time and distance, it became obvious Andrew wasn't going to continue his part of their rapport and reach out to her. She was actually alone, the dreg of society.>"Don't you have somewhere to be?"Was her saying that anything insincere wouldn't help, which is true.
>>585527465We need to kill Andrew. We need to kill Andrew right fucking now.>>585527743Statements dreamt up by the totally deranged
>>585528952Ashley isn't even bad by the time of the Cliffhanger end. It's Andrew that's fallen off the deep end through LU prodding and plotting.
>>585527610I think it's clear they have to dispose of the demon trinket because it's emblematic of their own trust issues: "let's have some stupid bullshit arbitrate our doings so we don't have to work through our insecurities". As long as they have the trinket, Ashley will never learn to trust non-transactionally, and Andrew will never need to deal with Ashley becoming an adult.
>>585529497Obviously it's getting away from demons in general, but there are going to be at least a couple failstates/bad routes for either sibling refusing to do so either secretly or openly.
>>585529497>it's emblematic of their own trust issuesIt's emblematic of Andrew's trust issues. He's always freaking out about the trinket and only when he's already in the depths of one of his paranoid spirals
>>585529416Ashley is getting better because she has actually been trying since the vision, but better is not good. Andrew rejects her olive branches, but he's not wrong to address that a lot of their relationship has been her relying on him without granting him things that should be considered basic>>585529497What about the talisman makes you think it ties to an Andrew that must deal with an adult Ashley? Her only unequivocal virtue so far there is saving that guinea pig
>>585530457>without granting him things that should be considered basicANDREW DOES NOT HAVE SOME KIND OF RIGHT TO ASHLEY'S BODY
>>585530457This is exactly what the other(?) anon is talking about, treating Ashley like shit even when she tries and demonizing her for it, and then getting upset when he gets the response he does. You are an Andrew apologist.
>>585530641I guess I am, because even though Andrew fumbled the execution, he had a point. Ashley growing a little is good but she has to grow a LOT or they won't be stable They may never be stable because of his obsessions but that's besides the point
>>585530457>What about the talisman makes you think it ties to an Andrew that must deal with an adult Ashley?The talisman is a continuation of "Andy and Leyley and the Stupid Bullshit". It's actually a lot like the Blood Oath as well, which was also regressive, since their cooperation just became arbitrated. They're not accountable to each other let alone society as long as they have the trinket.
>>585530597I meant like how while it's true Ashley let him be with Julia (eventually), that's not something he should need her signed permission for
>>585531285>that's not something he should need her signed permission forDid Andrew ever consider not being a whore?
2027 we're straight up killing Andrew apologists
I feel like /calg/ has suddenly turned on Andrew, and I don't like it.
>>585532714>suddenlyIt's been like 3 years
>>585532714>suddenly
>>585532714I think it's fine if people have a worse opinion of Andrew after 3A, that's not unreasonable, but some of these posts come across as white-knighting.
>>585532972>>585533446No, it's definitely recent. Nobody was talking about kicking Andrew in the balls every day when 3A came out.
>>585533829It's not recent.
>>585533829Anon, we had someone here in the chapter 2 days who would always talk about how he could kick Andrew's ass and then take Ashley.
>>585533971I still remember the gnome taking his rightful Julia
>>585534804that shit had to be an elaborate troll. Also that was post-3A release.
https://x.com/_LISH_AIC/status/1992088675916841179/photo/1Was this one ever posted here?
The best compromise is one CG of Andrew getting kicked in the balls. Just one, as a treat.
>>585535378Nope
My sister had to go pee 7 times in 8 hours. Is that normal?
>>585536249Yes*. Hormones, not eating enough salt/carbs, or drinking too much water can all do that.
>>585536249Tell her to consume more sodium if she drinks lots of water. You need salts for better water absorption.
>>585536249That's talent. Tell her to become a camgirl.
>>585536948Based.
>>585539434qtpi
Need to suck Julia's cock while grabbing her ass
>>585541428Indeed.
>>585541610Sisters LOEV cheezburger
>>585533829Yeah. Not sure that it's literally one guy but someone is clearly determined to see everything Andrew does in the worst possible way to the point of making things up to be mad about.
>>585543323It'd be silly to think something that banal would be the work of the ever-ubiquitous One Guy™, that accusation should only be reserved for some of the hyper-specific forms of mental illness that pop up from time to time.
>>585543323>it's literally one guyThat guy? Me
>>585543323All me btw
Winter is almost here
>>585547745
>>585548507Ivy is so hot.
Julia is so cute, I am going to dream about her
>>585532714Episode 3 made what's already there much more concrete but yeah nobody likes faggots who hate one of the main characters this story revolves around, it just feels like being a crybaby to me.>>585533829Kicking in the balls guy is a female (male but acts so female you can't tell from here) so just ignore him.
>>585549971Is she though?
>>585551246Yes, she is, Mr. Thumbnail-Saver
>>585551246Dude what the fuck I swear I had saved the transparent background one of this image
>>585551337No other image of mine does this!! This image just saved itself with a black background JUST to make a fool of me in front of thousand of /calg/gers (3 regulars each acting like multiple different people).. It's all Ivy's fault, that peppermint bitch.
>>585551337>576x1024>thumbnailyou kids and your damn 8k super-hi-res imagesyou're all spoiled! back in my day we had to jerk off to images the size of an xbox 360 profile pic!
"IMPS could be here" she thought, "I've never been in this forest before. There could be IMPS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against her long elf ears. "I HATE IMPS" she thought. Yötön Yö reverberated her entire snow sled, making it pulsate even as the 9 gold coin peppermint tea circulated through her powerful sprite veins and washed away her (merited) fear of being cucked by a corpse puppet after dark. "With a snowflake maker's license, you could go anywhere you want" she said to herself, out loud.
>>585552687Imagine how utterly pristine and refreshing she tastes down there. Like peppermint schnapps or mint-chocolate-chip ice cream.
>>585552687Kek
>>585551093Big tangent, but people fucking HATED Eren by the end of AoT.
>>585552687>tfw no racist magical art girl heiress gf
>>585554760You can make your GF racist, anon.
>>585554760do not do this >>585555051trust me. It always ends badly.
>>585555445Sounds like you were just dating a bad woman (she wasn't your sister).
>>585555559On a personal level, I didn't. Everyone I've ever dated was either apolitical, or on the surface level side of the spectrum I'm on. Had a friend who thought he made it because he, "redpilled" his gf... then they broke up, and the nigga had to leave town because all of a sudden he was a, "KKK Nazi Terrorist". And he got lucky. Sometimes a slip up like that fucks your life up WAAAAYYY more.
>>585555981I think you're thinking about it too hard. Most women are just going to center "their" politics around their husband unless they absolutely despise him. This applies to sisters even moreso because sisters are born wives.
>>585554760Fuck...Ivy walked so Malfoid could run.
>>585556104Fuck sake lmaothey even both have green color schemes
>>585556065>Most women are just going to center "their" politics around their husbandWell yeah, and that's what he did too. But also, he kind of did it to himself. I won't delve into too many specifics, but let's just say some experimentation in their life style really blew up in his face... hard.
>>585556282So it sounds like "making your GF racist" i.e. having a specific ideology and your long-term romantic partner sort of bending themselves to that wasn't the problem, but rather making retarded decisions was.
>>585555051>>585555445Luckily she already kinda was. Unfortunately she is neither an heiress nor magical (as far as I know) so we have to have jobs and rent and other boring normie shit like that.
>>585556282>>585556597Was it cooperative outcest?
>outbreeders
>>585556597I really don't know how better to explain it without divulging really embarrassing details, so I'll explain it like this: Imagine if you put a lot of effort and time into sculpting this peice of marble into your perfect sculpture. It represents everything you're about. But one day you decide to let another sculptor, "scupt" with you... and then that statue falls and fucking kills you... That's essentially what happened. Moral of the story is if perhaps this sculptor's hubris had kept the scope of his vision less grand, perhaps accepted it's flaws instead of trying to build something grandeur, he would have lived the second he doomed his own creation to fall directly on his stupid ass. Also goes to show how meaningless all that symbolism meant the second he opened a door to something other than it.
>>585558079That's what I figured. A 100% self-inflicted wound.
>>585558145Yeah. He's lucky considering she's ultimately harmless and sort of impressionable. There's certain women who are just straight up chameleons. They'll conveniently agree with everything you're about until one day you accidentally give them the ick, next thing you know they'll resort to life ruination tactics once it's over merely for love of the game. It's happened to a few people I knew.
>>585558079If I ever catch this form of brain rot I hope someone cares enough to honor kill me before I can actually go through with it.
>>585558710>How else am I supposed to say (exact concise thing) without odd metaphors?
>>585558780It takes a special kind of stupid to get there, so I wouldn't worry.
>>585558864shhhhhh no one else saw it
>>585558079anyone who feels the need to over complicate a simple story being told anonymously on a Mongolian underwater basket-weaving forum by pointlessly weaving a fictional metaphor around it instead of just plainly explaining what happened is an insufferable personyou, my dear anon, are a cunt
>>585559156NTA but there's a degree of obfuscation needed sometimes considering how mercurial the jannies are. That being said, the subject matter he's talking about isn't dangerous and doesn't remotely warrant talking indirectly.
More Ashley
>>585559279it was a story about getting cucked, im sure the jannies would approve
>>585559417Holy shit those tits.
More Julia
>>585559156I mean, the actual details are far more embarrassing. I gave you as vague of a description I could for his sake, mainly.
>>585559417I agree.
>>585559597>I gave you as vague of a description I could for his sakeTHIS IS AN ANONYMOUS FORUM, who gives a fuck about 'his sake'?!?this shit ain't coming back to him, do you not understand that? We're not telling you to attach him name, social security number and mother's maiden name to the post, for fucks sakeare you new here? do you not understand the entire point of an anonymous messageboard?now dish the details or gtfo
>>585559742All 'shleys are cute, and many 'shleys are smug, but this 'shley is a truly legendary combination of smugcute.
>>585559058>>585559941For me it's Teasing Winkshley
Anon got cucked in the sweltering summer of 2021
>>585559827>Mixed race Guatamalen girl from the ghetto (but didn't act it)>Larper NatSoc type (he found out he was Ashkenazi Jewish later btw)>"redpilled her about the Jews o algo">move to rural, "trad" town>basically a hippie commune in rural Arizona>they do lots of psychedelics >they try to blend in and keep their heads down>start experimenting sexually>decide to propose the idea of a threesome to their hippie friend>literally it's just him being cucked in front of his face>aftermath is about what you'd expect >he gets stuck and homeless because she tells the town he's a white supremacist
>>585560720lmao
>>585559597Thank you, Anon....you gave a vague description for my sake....I won't let this error go to waste.
>>585560815Last I heard he found some racially ambiguous chick and moved to some shack in the south. God help him.
>>585561078as someone who lives in the south, im sure his incompetent ass will fit right in
>>585561460I mean, people from the south tend to be overly sexual in a weirdly casual way despite all being Protestants and conservatives, so maybe he'll do okay out there.
>>585560720>>start experimenting sexuallyThat's where he went wrong.
>>585562019>I mean, people from the south tend to be overly sexual in a weirdly casual way despite all being Protestants and conservatives, so maybe he'll do okay out there.i don't know what part of the south you're talking about, but the part that im in is not like that at all
>>585536249She needs to consume more brosperm.
>>585562295Maybe it was just like that in South Western Tennessee then. Idk. Was just minding my own business and heard two strangers, one a good ole boy and one who's somehwhat professional casually lauguing and cracking sexual jokes. That and I went to take a piss and some old boomer greeted me as I was staring straight ahead. I noticed out of the corner of my eye he looked down at my dick.
>>585562515>South Western TennesseeMemphis huh? that explains a lot...
>>585562671A little further out. Memphis was one of the biggest shitholes I've ever seen in my life. Nashville was cool, though.
Reminder that Andrew does it for free
>>585559417
>>585559417I love BPD women, and I'm tired of pretending I don't. The highs are worth the lows. Normal women are boring.
>>585563290That's what brothers are for.
>>585563424Ashley does not have BPD!
>>585563571She kind of fits every single symptom tho...
>>585563873
>>585563873Ashley acts entirely in accordance with what Andrew has taught her. That's not a personality disorder, that's conditioning
>>585532714How many of the haters just resent him as a person but love him as a character?
>>585563914
We need an Andrew appreciation thread one of these days.
>>585563873I'll take the word of the author over some clanker answer.
>>585564750So true
>>585564928nta but Nemlei didn't outright rule out personality disorders, she just said it's irrelevant to the text. Even if we defied Saint Nemlei and applied the DSM, I still do not believe Ashley has BPD.
*Gives you the BPD glare*
>>585565213>applied the DSMdon't do this, you end up on twenty meds
>>585565710This but Andrew (same outfit)
>>585563424>>585563571>>585563873>implying BPD is real
>>585566769Don't think this works either. Ashley only fits criteria 3 and 7.
>>585566949>Criterion 1I do believe stalking-harassment is illegal.>Criterion 4Ashley is a woman. Aggression does not usually manifest as assault. Indeed, there is a widespread belief among doctors that women are under-diagnosed for this reason.>Criterion 6Ashley is an unemployed high school dropout.
>>585567467>Ashley is an unemployed high school dropoutThe Finnish economy had a depression in the 90's and employment levels to the present day still haven't recovered.
>>585564750He's funnyHe's poeticHe's romanticHe's self awareHe's trying his bestHe tried to be a good big brother/father/everythingHe was once a precious boy who believed he'd be happy if only he could get away from this place...
>>585567467Committing a crime isn't enough by itself to satisfy #1, she would have to consistently disregard or not understand the rules she was breaking and we don't see teenage Ashley acting that way at all. We'll have to wait to see more of how she treats people who aren't Andrew before becoming a murderhobo for #4, but that's a fair possibility. For #6 she dropped out of school but she's capable of those things, she keeps her plants, is diligent about cleaning, and has normal woman levels of financial responsibility.
I find whether Ashley having a BPD or not is irrelevant to the overall plot. I don't think most people would have come out of how she was raised as a mentally healthy person in general.
