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>>585442007Help me brainstorm Body Type 1 Orc Mage RP names with unhinged sexual predator energy.Some candidates I've collected so far:Gashcrush GobgaggerThrustar GorgashDeflorinator ThrobgorSheorc SniffaFuxxar Hellcream
>>585442067>Rp namesEnjoy your namechange and possible ban
Is restesxp actually any good?
This kino dungeon should've been in for launch...
You only don't want War Mode because you'd get rolled in an environment where everyone is actually looking and ready to PvP.
>>585442007>Blizzard is gayand the sky is blue
>>585442212Hopefully its a max level dungeon. Would be a waste to keep it low level.
>>585442152I'm rolling PvP server but yes, the name I select will have to be somewhat innocuous at first glance and have some plausible deniability.
>>585442239Sometimes it's green, gray, red, or yellow though.
>>585442216You are a vile faggot.
>>585441925Dadgamers explicitly want the game to be as raidlog as possible, so they can swipe and log on once a week for exactly 90mins to clear the currently relevant raid and still get the best gear in the game.
Looks like I'll be rolling on the RP-PvE serverset to evade and the griefers and streamer cancer.
pvp in wow was always a huge meme anyway
>>585442328this is 4chan. take your gay simping back to twitch
>mfw trying to play classic after forever beta
The 2H big crits dooood casino grognards are what are holding Enhancement back
>>585442216What's funny is that you think Asmon is a monster while also thinking deserves to have memes like this posted about the death of his mom. You think being a chud warrants one's family members being burned to death and ridiculed after
IS RESTEDXP ACTUALLY ANY GOOD YOU FUCKING NIGGERS?!
>>585442342and min maxers, meta slaves and tryhardspure comfy adventuring vibes hell yeah
>>585442496why would you ever need more than questie
>>585442496no you'd have to be able to read to get any use out of it
>>585442448You seem unhinged
>>585442496you are clearly too retarded to use it
Tell me what race/class I'm rolling
>>585442528I don't know that's why I am asking. I didn't get a chance to use it in the beta.>>585442534You shut your whore mouth
>>585442328>>585442474I think you reddit carebear simps should fuck off ;)
>>585442465yeah agree and its why blizz abandoned it in favor of dw all the way back in tbc. 2h enh is a nightmare to balance, because either you proc wf and do million damage or you dont proc wf and dont do shit. they can't anything interesting to enh because they have to account for the scenario where a nigga gets a bunch of lucky wf procs. it's degenerate and the whole "big numbah feel GOOD" is a brainlet take.
>>585442496We're using Journey now
>>585442608I got to lvl12 in 3 hours in the stress test using restedxpplayed a rogue
>>585442496Do not get the meme arrow. Part of the fun is looking at the map and figuring out where to go next.
>>585442465If you don't want to play enhancement go play fury warrior.
>>585442474his mom is dead. these memes can't hurt her.
>>585442496for people like you the best course of action is youtube video guides
>>585442618What's the matter "4chan baddass"? Can't handle a little pushback?
>>585442474>>585442328
>>585442465>grognardswhat the fuck is a grognard
>>585442602do you want to rinse and wash grizzled sweaty muscular men tired from battle with nothing but a wet cloth and your tongue? play a holy paladinif that doesn't appeal to you then idfk uhhh mage
>>585442454me except literally everything in my life. i spent the last month just consooming everything wowfo. i spent all my time at work on my phone. i listened to videos and podcasts about the game while i slept. i played the game nonstop while awake at home. now i have nothing and i feel like a fiend
>>585442951We're in a place where not everyone will agree with you. Better learn to deal with it pussy.
>>585442752I got to level 12 and didn't use rested xp. Where does that leave us?>>585442745I can't tell if you're memeing>>585442772It might be part of your fun, my fun is not that.
https://www.twitch.tv/pikabooirlplaying through wc3
>>585443002what other things have you been addicted to in your life?
>>585442496Yes it is efficient, possibly the most efficient. But it's cancer and supports streamer favoritism even if you get it for free.
>>585442474reminder 2 days after Conan O'briens dad died he blamed Jason Bateman but we can't joke as the roach lord neglecting his mom to death, too fucking rich and fuck you asmongold has no feelings for anyone but himself
>>585443081curious you didnt mention how long it took youcurious
>>585443092i guess porn? i dont drink or do drugs, but ive pretty much fapped once a day every day for the last 18 years and sorry but i just wont stop until i have a wife
>>585443081>It might be part of your fun, my fun is not that.If your only consideration is speed why not just download the fucking thing. You are hardly likely to be faster on your own than some routing derived from a bunch of data.
>>585442987Fem sky elf mage it is
>>585442951>>585442819True, and I don't particularly even care myself, I'm just pointing out that it's pretty rich to be (presumably) morally outraged over Asmon being an evil racist when you're literally relishing his mother being burned to death in a massive oxygen-enriched fireball >>585442618
>>585442669>2h enh is a nightmare to balance, because either you proc wf and do million damage or you dont proc wf and dont do shit.genuinely retarded take. enh was shit in vanilla because it was a hybrid and every melee dps was shit besides warriors and rogues. you might as well say warriors are a nightmare to balance because in any fight they could be pressing recklessness. enh can jump around either doing consistently good damage or crazy damage, it's fine. stop being a parse brained min maxing autist and having a tranny melt down you can't always be top of the dps meter.
>>585442496It's against TOS, enjoy your ban
>>585443092porn, weed (not physically ofc), retail back when it was tbc/wrath, binging tv/anime
>>585443256you don't have to hate some lame streamer to think that making fun of his narcissistic self own is funny.
>nov 4th till 11th for free play to see how many changes they actually do to it after beta>exile con on the 8th to 11th to gauge if I want to play 3.30 or not>one month of WoW (if I ignore 3.30) lands me squarely right next to PoE2 releaseIts a good couple of months for me and none of it involves GTA6.
>>585443265>you might as well say warriors are a nightmare to balance because in any fight they could be pressing recklessness.isnt that the reason it was a 30min cd or something like that
>>585442342Same
>>585443265If you make enh good without wf, then pvp is just fucked because now they shit out damage, have ranged options, totems, ghost wolf, and when they proc wf they delete even plate healthbars
what's comfier in the late game between horde or alliance? i think both are comfy 1-30 but don't have much experience with end game classic and where people tend to congregate and do end game content
>>585443481that's what ppm and internal cds are for
Always played Horde but it seems that there is a chance its going to be more alliance skewed now. I do think I'm ready to learn a whole new faction.
>>585442237Just admit you want to gank lowbies in Redridge and set PvE mode when you are running to an instance.
>>585443430Good GTA6 is going to be so omegashit I cant wait for the tortanic amount of backpedaling by youtubers when they realize it was written entirely by blue haired foids and troons.
>>585442496Personally I prefer Azeroth Pilot Reloaded. It's the same thing, but instead of a list of steps displayed on the screen it only displays the current step so it doesn't take up a huge portion of your screen, and it's 100% free so you can update it via curseforge without having to redownload it from some guys ownedcore post any time they update it, which will be a lot when forever releases since they don't have any 30-60 data beyond the classic leveling.
>took 5 days off starting from the 5th until the 9th>will be sitting in my comfy room under my comfy blanket drinking hot cocoa binging WoW Forever levelling my resto tauren druidPeak comfy.
>>585443507horde afks in orgrimmar and alliance in stormwind
>>585443627do your coworkers and boss know
incredibly gay blizzjeet marketerstrying to increase fomo for what is essentially a retail tranny classic skinsuit fun serverno new class or raceretail homogenization, neutral race, destroying the uniqueness of faction specific classes like paladin and shaman for parse trannysbugs galore, classic without classic model skeletons or functioning animations or proper fitting gearsoul killing layeringtried to rework racials, but only ended up nerfing new changes and making already weak racials even worse, while making the pay2play neutal race's racials pay2winattracting the retail faggot base into the game by giving them disney hd graphic models that ruin the entire aesthetic and art style of vanilla wowetc etc etc
>>585443605>muh tortanicGive it up, you're just setting yourself up for failure.
>>585443627>my resto tauren druidMy angus!
>>585443612>download before launch>redownload for your altsyou are going to hit lvl60 before they update the lvl30-40 part so there is no need to re-download it constantly
>>585443634>Stormwind becoming the de facto hub of the Alliance in ForeverWorst dev decision so far.Stormwind harbor is gay, should have used the Ironforge Airfield for the new baby mode tranports.
>>585443605>tortanic People still use as an analogy for failure a game that 14 years later still continues to generate profit
>>585441580https://litter.catbox.moe/8agz1u.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/oxyae7.png>>585443627same except human warlock
>>585443718Turns out when you say>yeah we are gonna actively change classic nowthen you get the same requests from the players that they gave blizz back when the game changed from vanilla onwards. The people are the same. They want the same things now they did back then. They give the same feedback to Blizzard. It is more or less inevitable that Forever slowly but surely turns into retail, because the players want this to happen.
>>585443784human male paladin is the canon MC of WoW
Playing 3 classes to 30 in beta to see which one I should roll during the actual release, end up closing a class i never played.
I want to play a class that cant normally stealth, but can stealth because of shadowmeld.Warrior, Hunter, or priest?
>>585443858No shit, then he got corrupted and became the lich king.
>>585443858No its orc male shaman and human male warrior, for Thrall and Varian (who replaced Bolvar who was also a human male warrior)
>>585443909priest for mind control memes
>>585443438its an insanely strong cd and they said they'd rather keep it 30 minutes otherwise they would have to destroy the class balancing it around being able to activate it every fight even if it was half as good.
>>585443909If you pvp, shadowmelding as a hunter and stealthing my cat on a capture point in AB was peak.
>>585443859Same
>>585443858Your human male paladin is RP married to a Dwarf woman and got a hyphenated human-dwarf last name during the Third War
>>585443909hunter with cat thats stealthed as well
Gank and anally rape all clothcucks
>>585443858It has and will always be Green Jesus's class.
>>585444060Understandable, dwarf vaginas taste like candy to human tongues
>>585444080then how come shamans are looking to be garbage in forever
Ladies and gentlemen, my name was TotalBiscuit and I'm not here to ask and answer one simple question... WTF is WoW: Forever?
>>585444065>rogues being able to gank anything in foreverNice try, but you'll be spotted, dotted and dead before you even get in melee range.
>>585444065I can't be the only one that sees an orc rogue and thinks "a rogue shouldn't be this jacked"
>>585444198Cope clothcuck nigger
>>585444184my hair is starting to look like that im afraid
>>585444143It's the journey being more meaningful, a mc is made by the fires of balancing. Paladins die all the time.
>>585444037>heckle retard at the flag with the cat>have a "stay" spot preset for the cat>cat runs back there when put on passive>dipshit thinks that's where I'm hidingGood times
>>585442465As much as I loved it when Lava Lash starting chunking people in cata, I do think they could tweak forever a bit more to make 2h work without it just being stupid. Maelstrom seems to be their idea to supplement damage between burst, but I wonder if another weapon skill that couldn't proc windfury would work given how I imagine maelstrom generation is going to look with a 2h vs the steady flow it had with DW.
>>585444254Wrong, I'm a fellow rogue. It's suffering in forever.
>>585443909shadowmeld feels so good on warriornot only is femnelf warrior based and lorepilled but they look great too
>>585444184He would find a way to bitch endlessly, dude quit WoW over a raid he never even ran, citing it as the final straw for him in terms of raid design
kanistrasza perkies, sideboba, tumma, and assa
>>585444308Sorry bro... I know that feel
>>5854431183hr15mins approx
What level should you be after 10 hours day one? I'm trying to get to at least 20.
>>585444442>>585444308>>585444254>>585444198>humans have perception and everyman>humans can be hunters>most overplayed race meets most overplayed classIs it over for horde rogues?Should I make a gnome to be a turbonigger instead?
Why did Garrosh get the cute orc face in Classic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR69zVmPb80We're finally going home, lads
Does anyone have an updated list of mob hyperspawn spots for leveling?
>>585444184threadly reminder to not just ignore it when you start shitting blood.
>>585444651Meds or dementia
How are people simming level 60 race vs race when we dont have gear? Like how do we know if Skyborne are going to be good for having 3% haste when for all we know every level 60 epic has enough haste on it to easily reach gcd cap without giving up other stats?
>>585444568dont forget the new legacy thing that gives everyone free 2 levels of stealth detection.
Should I human paladin or UD paladin? How bad was the nerf to totg really?
>>585444796And the potion that persists through death that gives them perception when they stand still and shows them a glowing fart trail where you've walked
Healers should not be dpsing, they should be healing.
>>585444565I'll be at work so I'll only get a couple hours...
>>58544480325s icd just makes it feel like a nothingburger imo unless it hits hard as fuck. Oh boy every 25s and ~5 hits I get 200 leech damage SOIFACE.jpg!
>>585444939If the enemy dies faster you need less healing
>>585444939Healers are the biggest ducks in game. They want to dps as a cope.
>>585444935Im gonna pop that potion and then go into shadowmeld and watch where youre going
>>585444796I wonder which forever dev got ganked by a rogue and just shit themselves so hard they need to fuck them over to such a degree.>>585444939Hot take, frog posters make everything they say look bad. So keep it up!
Btw I posted these here early on but none of you cared until you saw it on plebbit
>>585444803This just looks wrong
>>585445030
>>585442007pretty sure they just fucked up while porting sd model to modern rig
>>585444565I expect 8 of those hours to be spent in a queue or "playing" the game as it has billions of problems that makes it unplayable.
>>585445071Betrayer of the Light!
>>585444939Healers heal as much as is demanded by the boss tuning. If bosses are easy then healers should be expected to do damage. This is currently XIV's problem as even the hardest content (which xivtroons will pretend is in any way comparable to mythic cutting edge) has no unavoidable raid wide damage (as everything is telegraphed and avoidable with movement) and tanks all have really good self healing. So as long as the tank is topped off all they can do is do damage.
>>585444743>How are people simming level 60 race vs race when we dont have gear?a lot of assumptions. sims at this point are more or less worthless as you say.
thrall fucks up illidan 1v1 right
>>585445071man that blue background is so nostalgic from modelviewer days
>>585445071this looks just right if you're hordebrained enough!
>>585444565I expect to be level 2 or 3, spend a few hours in queue, then watch groups of 50 dwarves and gnomes fight over 1 wolf
>>585444939this is what I tell myself when I do literally 1k damage the entire dungeon (at least no one died)I just can't be fucked desu
>>585445071This just looks wrong
>>585444987>>585444992>>585445001>>585445150I'm glad you trannies are nowhere near MMO development.
>>585445185nah he couldnt even beat hellscream 1v1 without cheating
>>585445185In warcaft 3 a demon hunter completely wrecks a farseer
>>585445185lol no
>>585445071
>>585444939then make healing not piss boring. healing the tank every once in a while and having nothing to do in the mean time is so ass.
>>585444960>>585445071Alright, guess I'm rolling human, going to be peak comfy in elwynn
>>585445242undead warriors are normal
>>585445260Reminder Garrosh didn't care that Thrall cheated, he just hated that Thrall failed him as Warchief
>>585445260cheating? magic was always allowed in mak'gora
>>585445252But this has been the case in every single wow expansion? Remember vanilla isnt hard, you were just shit. WoW mechanics generally encourage healing with raid wide damage and big hit mechanics so healers usually have to precast heals for incoming damage, but even in Mythic raids on retail healers are expected to be doing damage. In vanilla dungeons healers are expected to wand while generating mp5 and people are at full health. Healers should aim to be parsing 99 healing and blue/purple damage.
>>585445265okay you're right
if your stupid ass is just standing there doing nothing because there is nothing to heal at the moment then imma need you not be in my group.
>>585445185Illidan losing to Arthas in TFT was always horseshit.There's no reason Illidan shouldn't be Top 1 Azerothian between eating the skull and the Dark Portal reopening.
im enjoying mop classici like how easy it is
>>585443846perfection, thanks
>>585445425nope you either chose a weapon or chose magic. thrall used both. i mean its even shown that the elementals hated that shit and stopped helping thrall
>A popular misconception among the fanbase is that Thrall cheated in his final mak'gora against Garrosh when he used elemental magic. However, there has never been any rule forbidding the use of magic and spells. Moreover, there is a precedent for the use of magic in mak'gora, as both Shagara and Ashra made extensive use of it during their mak'gora. Thrall had also already used magic in the first mak'gora between him and Garrosh, by throwing lightning bolts.
>>585445281This is literally every zoomer in 2026
>>585445480but healer mana is the bottleneck stopping you from going faster, it doesn't make sense to waste it and wand dps is negligible
>>585445428What do you do if you're a class that doesn't have access to wands?
>>585444651Isn't he in Kargath? anyways he has this face, but the yellowish orc skin in Classic.
>>585444939Gonna laugh when PoM and Holy Nova spam is optimal in 99% of dungeon situations.
>shockadin simming higher than ret even after the talent nerfLol, lmaoeven the dps paladins are going to be wearing the dress and cage
>>585445541the elements "stopped helping" thrall because he felt like shit about having screwed up with garrosh as warchief https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Mak%27gora
>>585445569you just outlined why healing in classic is such a fucking meme
>>585444939if i dps my dps get mad i beat them on the meter
>>585445480I'm a druid, I'm not shifting into cat every 10 seconds in between hots to increase group damage by 0.5%when things get hairy I will weave auto attacks with my garbage ass staff to fish for omen of clarity procsthere is simply nothing more to do
>>585445592In my dungeons as hpal I'm consecrating and smacking things and shocking for damage since it's heal is so bad. druids and shamans can rope
>Still wanting to play shitty WoW forever which is infested with faggot devs and faggot loser ugly streamer fags when private servers are going to be insanehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFFIw6tYZGcjust leaving this right here
>>585445501illidan was even weaker than vashj and kael
>>585445541This. >>585445625Cope. Him being unable to use the elements because he was super duper sad is retarded and makes no sense and only retards who want to convince themselves he didn't cheat think that.
>>585445651healing in raids is fine. at least in vanilla and TBC raids there's lots of aoe damage to heal, and some fun boss fightsfor dungeons it depends if you outgear them or not, and even then some of the later UBRS pulls need really high output
Healers really just out here admitting how little they actually do in the group
>>585445569If you don't precast heals while nothing going on you are a fucking shitter
>>585445625>Garrosh's speech and final words are about how Thrall failed him and the Horde to go play world hero, effectively making Garrosh Orc Hitler>Thrall just says lol nah and zaps him>Legion opens with "damn, but what if though..."MAKE UP YOUR MIND
>>585445620>paladin>either have to don the dress or memetwistI enjoyed the class in beta but don't think I want this at end game. Are there any other 2h dps that I can play? How is arms warrior or enh shaman?
>>585445762That's my bike you're talking about.
>>585445361Could be a paladin with a mog
>>585445762Dont bring them then, go all dps.
>>585445746how am I coping? that's just your fanon, magic was always used in mak'goramaybe you watched a scene from warcraft movie where guldan killed durotan but that's not canon to the in-game universe
I'm always trying to convince myself that alliance is better>white people faction>big castles >lush fantasy pilled zones >looks better in armor>sexo foidsvs. >horde are gay refugee trannies etc. >muh no shoe hunchback >hut dwellers>desertsBut for all that I can't help but feel that hordic kalimdor IS warcraft, that by fulfilling so accurately the high fantasy ideal the alliance loses identity and dare I say sovl
>>585445545That is one sexy orc
>>585445762hey i place wf totem you ungrateful nigger, learn your place.
>>585445834>shadow priest has entered the building
if your dumb ass isnt at least wanding the target or using damage spells to avoid capping on mana then i dont even know what to say
>>585445762I roll on feral gear, that's doing something
>>585445784Thrall is Arthas if he never went down a dark path but then the Scourge destroy Lordaeron anyway
how can i delete all settings i changed during strees test to start wow forever fresh?
>>585445762Kneel to your shaman bull if you want wf totem and heals
>>585445916Thunderbluff is nice, almost as nice as Ironforge
>>585445954If the healer has full mana why the fuck isnt the tank pulling more
Female troll resto shamans are made for which cock?
>can't play for at least 15 hours post launchI'm going to miss all the exploits and hypespawns and get left behind right.
>>585446274servers will not be stable for the first 24 hours at least
>>585446238male human warrior
>>585445916You must be a gay refugee tranny deep inside.
>>585444184Reminder that he quit in cata when they nerfed all the dungeons which makes him based.
is wow forever wow 2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVN7pLUukec
>>585445762My elf takes care of the party after the dungeon
>>585445916you need the generic bland white human castle faction to adequately contrast your shithole mudhut raping and pillaging mongol faction otherwise why even rape and pillage?
Okay but why cant orc Shamans move like this in game.
rip elliot rodger you would have loved wow forever
I'm worried about raid difficulty bros. If all the raids are clearable week 1 by beer and pretzel gamers then what the fuck is the point of the game being forever? I want to prog. I want to have those milestones and the great feeling of finally clearing a raid after a month. If it's all piss easy like SoD BFD the game will just feel bad.
>>585446552the passage starts out relatable and then he begins to fixate autistically on the virgin identity and you remember how unhinged he was
>>585446587Who said it was going to be easy? The retailfags?
>>585446587You get gear to pvp and world pvp making bads mad.
>>585446463crazy they want more than 1 button rotations but the cooldown tracker they made now enables 1 button rotation addons
>>585446587That shit doesn't work and no one likes doing it. If people liked it retail wouldn't of failed because thats all retail is. If you don't want easy dad core raids like vanilla raids were, fuck off back to retail.>>585446715They said in the recent podcast that the raids are designed around casuals.
>>585446587Good news is you can go play retail and wipe on a boss 300 times there for your "progression" if you need it
>>585446587retoilet is right there and you even get to have your progress deleted every patch with a new raid for the mazedrats
>>585446767in what conceivable way did retail fail. last i heard they have more subs now than in years.
>pre cast on your assigned tank / group>no damage taken>cancel cast>cast again>they finally take damage, someone else heals them whilst your casting>over heal anyway>repeat>nobody dies, get loot
>>585446867millions are playing, millions!
>>585446767>like vanilla raids wereExcept that was really only MC. Even in Era not everyone cleared AQ40 and Naxx with all the addon help, good internet, post 1.12.1 changes, and 20 years of guides. A lot more than normal niller, but still not even close to every raider cleared them.
>>585446587you are an evil elitist for even thinking about this. the dadgamers being able to afk raids is much more important than your enjoyment of the game and no, several difficulties so everyone can get what they want is not an option either chud.
>>585446587i mean usually their difficulty is pretty good sod was relatively tough and even bfd you dont remember the last two bosses? gnomey was pretty tough, st was tuff, they fucked up with flex raiding though. i think they were all pretty good difficulties perchance aside from flex raiding with 40 people like my guild did
>>585446425No.Forever is a technical demo for wow 2.
>>585446867Having record low m+ runs, go log into any server and see how dead trade chat is. The only trade chat thats active is moonguards with people just linking transmogs and erping with each other.
>>585446904>be druid>drop HoTs on everyone>top the meters while fapping
>>585446767>If you don't want easy dad core raids like vanilla raids wereThat is NOT how I remember vanilla raids. You might be talking about Classic raids.
>>585446587You have retail for that.Your kind is not welcomed here.
How do I meet her?
>>585446867>last i heard they have more subs now than in years.Hahahaha, lol, lmaoRetail is dead as fuck and the game is barely held together with duct tape and gum, pretty much every system in it sucks, the world sucks, the gameplay sucks, everything is ugly and everything is gay.
>>585446782>>585446789Every single player having T3, thunderfury, and atiesh was NOT Classic. Naxx was literally developed with the mindset that most players would never even step foot inside of it.What is this retarded boomer cope that Vanilla was designed for the lowest common denominator downie?
>>585446904>puts up shield>spams heals to build aegis constantly>top healing meter and overhealing meter
>>585445916It is a fantasy role playing game, so what you really get is>allianceBrowns and chinks larping as medieval whites>hordeWhite people larping as bloodthirsty tribalistic niggers
what was your first screenshot of the beta?
So what do you actually hope for the future.They can just keep the Dark Portal closed thats done.Northrend exist maybe they just make the Lich King stay asleep and frozenBroken isles is there with the Tomb of Sargeras just have to get rid of all the stuff like the Nightbornes and ther nonsenseZandalar and Kul Tiras are still out thereKezan can be explored, Just make Deathwing never resurfacePandaria was only discovered because Deathwing's catalysm fucked up the magic mist hiding it so we can skip that.
>>585446904healers will look you right in the face and pretend this is great gameplay
>>585445545What about guldan mag'kora in the movie
>>585446950that proves his point even more though. people did mc and ony but as raids got more difficult with harder gear checks more and more people dropped off until next to no one did naxx.
>>585447131>green bar go up>me feel goodIt's a simple life.
>>585447098We told you to go to retail you faggot now fuck off
>>585445545>misconception The Elements ltierally abandoned Thrall for cheating, it's canon
>>585447163canon for the movie universe
>>585447094i didnt ask about your opinion of the retoilet, but how many people are playing these days.
>>585446963Kelris was bugged on SoD launch, but I still cleared it week 1 and everyone cleared it week 2
>>585447131if i have to do anything as a healer someone royally fucked up i should just be able to out a hunter on follow and goon to my characters tits like a proper gaymer
>>585445916Its trueHorde has soul, tralliance doesnt
Does my guy look cool?
>>585447131tank healing is boring but raid healing is fun
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>>585446904If they didnt fix this in forever I am not rolling a healer. The precasting and cancelling is beyond bullshit.
>play druid>nobody can kill me since roots+travel form+stealthgg no re
>>585447326what was your name therethis character doesn't exist anymore
>>585447193LFR was added as a consequence of this logic and it will be in Forever eventually as well.
>>585447119honestly my only screenshot but it made me miss old orgrimmar
>>585447246also it was only a 3 day lockout even still pugs had a lot of trouble on that and the last boss cause tank had to do so much shit which i was and required quite a bit of coordination not crazy hard i personally wish it was harder but i can see the appeal of dad gamer raid night
>>585447409he might want to get the same name in name reservation and doesnt want it taken
>>585447376this was a major factor in why I'm going druid on launch, it really is the perfect wpvp adventuring class. not to mention your unique survival/escape advantage around bodies of water
Naga Necromancer pls add Blizz, I'll by premium release pls
>>585447234>i didnt ask about your opinion of the retoiletYeah you did. Want me to copy and paste it for you?>in what conceivable way did retail failThere's no concrete numbers but who gives a fuck. If you play the game you see and feel how dead it is. Look at discussion and metrics online and see how dead it is and lack of interest. Look at /wowg/ compared to /wowfg/.If you want to estimate numbers based on trackable activity there is like 1 million players. Or was, before forever got announced anyway.
>>585447098Wow as always ALWAYS been casual. Do people even remember what the other mmos at the time were? Shit like losing gear on death or having all the good spots for farming being camped by guilds/groups who ran a mafia to farm spots 24/7. Wow removed all of that, yeah Jeff Kaplan was an EverQuest sweat who wanted hard raids but now we know that just leads you down a path of shit where eventually you forgot what an mmo even is, no one wants different difficulties or having their entire class balanced around raid damage. 2019 classic being 'easy' was a good hing and showed you don't need 3 month long progress raids to make an mmo. Plus we already know forever raids are going to be harder than original vanilla because of their raid size cut, something that came during tbc because the devs realized how impossible it was to properly balance raids around 40 people. It's probably going to be close to tbc raid difficulty which is fine.
>>585447476damn that looks nice
>>585447476im mad they took away the blue ghost wolves.
>>585447560if dadgamers cannot kill a boss in a few pulls in the first week they will piss and moan to no end about it. we know how this goes.
Aloha Niggas,I don't have no friends.First come first serve for the two invite a friend codes for WOWF below.FKG8-LXJC-G8B9W-H5J5-PCSFWWHS-V3LH-NSWQH-8ST3-5V84Remember. It only lasts for launch week.Also, is anyone else rolling PVP as Horde? Seems like there'll be lots of streamers on alliance so it'll just be unbalanced anyways.
>>585447671they were such an eye sore that popped out compared to EVERYTHING elseI know one shaman friend was telling me how he used to roam ashenvale without getting ganked, then the change turned him into a beacon
>>585447671Me too. I don't even play shaman but the blue ghost wolf form looked fucking nice. It was a little bright at first but they lowered the brightness after an update and it looked perfect. I'm honestly really pissed and upset they took it away for the absolute dogshit that is the current ghost wolf form.
WoW was good when it was made for casuals. Then came the nolife faggot 0.1% basement dwellers and raids were catered to them. Then it was ruined by streamer faggots (pic very related, one of the biggest faggots out there) and you ended up with retoilet WoW.
>>585447751it should definitely be an option. ghost wolf customization should be a thing like druid form customization.
Did anything else happen in the final hours of the beta? After the zombie aids?
>>585447395Savage barbarians
>>585446293Did the first classic really stop at MoP? Is there a reason for that? Is it going to turn into classic WoD?
They unironically should add hard mode that doesnt give better loot just more loot per boss
>>585447716nice thanks
I'm going to be playing for the first time but I don't like raiding.Will guilds let a pvper who farms mats when he isn't pvping join?
>>585447784Wow always had content for a wide spectrum of players. Its the fact they solely focused on the hard-core raiders and the care bears who have anxiety from having to do a single rotation on both extreme ends that fucked them over.
>>585448007Join the guild? Yeah.
>>585447963>self replying to seem like the codes work.if you aren't the same anon. then don't even try the codes. its just a blizzard shillbot.
>>585447121Grim Batol, (non)Twilight Highlands, western Stonetalon, greater-Stratholme city zone.Then just keep adding new zones onto the unfinished coastline like Riverglades.Don't even acknowledge them as new. Obviously there was always a zone east of Winterspring called called the Frostcliffs full of yetis or some shit, rather than a 55,000 foot high 90-degree vertical cliff. Why wouldn't there be.Fuck going to Northrend or Pandaria or Legionland.
>>585447784supposedly retail has never been better if you are a casual. you can see all content, log in and do solo shit, no grinds to farm.
So this is how it ends huh? Not with a bang but a whisper. Why is no streamer willing to stand up for jiggle physics? These disgusting parasites have one job and it's to use their platform to raise the awareness for the real issues that actually matter to this community.
Hello I think every single tranny should be ACK-d.Point out where I am wrong.
>>585447121I'd like to see the more fucked up looking Northrend we saw in WC3, but I'm not too sure I see them not just reusing a lot of WOTLK assets/layouts if Northrend is ever a location of interest. That kind of also loops back into a more WC3 style broken isles instead of the full on expansion version we got, but I have no idea they could ever go about doing that outside of committing the whole different timeline bit and saying the Sundering fucked up things more than it did in retail's version so it's just mostly the Tomb and some Naga outposts.Quel'Thalas + Zul'Aman and how that might play out if they're made relevant without the elves being associated with the horde and pissing Zul'Jin off.
>>585448007social guilds for surepvp guilds of course too, although the real pvp guilds also raid because this is the one version of the game where you have to raid to get the best pvp gear (and that's a good thing!)
>>585448014>Its the fact they solely focused on the hard-core raiders and the care bears who have anxiety from having to do a single rotation on both extreme ends that fucked them over.the hardcore raiders are just doing their own thing in mythic. it's the villanious casuals who want content taken away from the mid and high skill players, because they get angry if they see another player in gear they themselves are not skilled enough to get.
>>585442007>Op's Picso what? are jiggle physics just lost tech now? or is the SD/HD model mashup messing everything up?
Why didnt they just make a single Megaserver with Warmode toggle
>>585448235Because warmode was a massive failure.
>>585448014Having a beer league mode and a hard mode literally gives everyone what they say they want, and I don't understand why Forever isnt adding it. Like what is the argument against having several raid difficulties?
Was going to say that they cant make hard content because of the meme specs and class stacking but people did that even with easy content so I guess MMO players are just their worst enemy.
>>585448235How would you make warmode worth ever toggling?
>>585447716wait what the code worked. thank dude. how much playtime does this give?
i only played tbc classic 2021-2022.then i played 3 phases of sod.was wrath or cata good?
>>585448235>warmodei cant think of a worse name for that
>>585447121I hope we just stick to these two continents and the zones expand / evolve over time with new threats or storys or evolving warfronts.Something like alliance retaking and rebuilding stromgard making it into a capital or undead taking stratholme.
>>585448235the vast majority of classic "pvpers" dont want a fair fight. they want to gank the other faction and never get ganked themselves. if the poor sod 30 levels below you can just opt out its not fun for these people.
>>585448354they should've called it warcraft mode
>>585448235Because Warmode is literally just playing on a pve server but when you turn pvp on everyone in the open world disappears.
>>585447716>>585448325>Remember. It only lasts for launch week.nevermind.
>warmode lets you opt into wpvp whenever you want with other players who want to wpvp, putting you on a pvp layer>trannies can not fathom this concept for some reason
>>585448293Casual players want participation rewards that rivals with the hardcore players.Hardcore players want rewards that only those who treat this game as a second job can obtain.
>>585448235nobody will play warmode because it's simply a dogshit version of a BGthe reason wpvp works is because it happens in the world that you need to traverse in order to do pvpit's not supposed to be "fair" btw
>>585448293>Like what is the argument against having several raid difficulties?casuals will feel fomo and this is more important to consider than giving mid or high skill players the experience of progging content.
SHUT UP MOM IM PLAYING WOW !!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmrxJ-t8P2U
So how big will rp-pvp be compared to pvp? 40% the size?
>>585448470in order to do pve*oopsies
>>585448451Notice how you can't formulate a counter argument after it's been pointed out warmade has a history of failure without just relying on insults as the core. You lost before you even began.
I never played the real launch WOW.Were raids actually that hard or was it just bad internet, shit computers, and actual good strats being hidden away in forums and printed guides?I mean if the average PC gamer was doing 30FPS in the early 2000s. I don't imagine that raids would be mechanically hard at all and it just seemed "hard" due to misinformation and the intial tard wrangling of over 15 dudes in an era where discord didn't exist. I'm a zoomer btw
>>585448392I need there to be ganking because I love killing gankers.
>ahmpy claims there's no difference between a pve server and a pvp server with layersis he right?
>>585448293feels too gamey. molten core should be molten core, not molten core (normal, heroic, mythic, lfr, etc.)
It's always the same fucking pvp vs pve argument whenever a fresh servers happensThen a month latter half the pvp population goes to pve and the pvp side will be inbalanced and one faction rules the server
when precisely did wpvp go from a gentlemens duel to nigger gang simulator?
>>585448532It may be the smallest ruleset just from being revealed so late. Most people already made plans on what they would roll.
>>585448610maybe if you're hitting 60 in three days like him
>>585448532no, lol< 10%
>>585448568What counter argument? You want to wpvp? You turn war mode on. Don't want to? Turn it off. Easy.Your tranny meds must be messing with your head if you can't understand this.
>>585448467the latter position is a lot more reasonable than the former. casual dadgamers are such unserious people. they pretend to be oh so adult, yet piss and moan like kids out of fomo whenever someone in a video games gets or does something they cant. their position is literally that no one can have the toy if i cant play with it.
>>585448625Except we don't have servers and there is forced faction balance on character creation this time around.
>>585448610if you are fast enough to over level everyone who would pvp in the first week
>>585448578they were never that hard mechanically but without optimized strats/comps/buff stacking some bosses are definitely a challenge numerically
>>585448618indeedthere should simply be extra challenges or some hard bossessweaties can still enjoy the ez content and try to go fastjust add an extra hard boss or two
>>585448610I don't know who ahmpy is but he sounds like a huge fag
>>585448646>gentlemens duel to nigger gang simulator?wpvp was never anything but ganking and griefing. it has always been a meme
>>585448625Not this time, pvptards will have to deal with the consequences of forced balance and no server transfer.It's going to be a glorious time to play rogue, hunter, or druid.
>>585448532Everyone knows it'll be smaller than the other servers but then suddenly blow up because a streamer makes an account there to troll people who actually like the lore and soon the rp rules will just vanish and everyone will just use it to make their alt faction character due to the lock on the regular pvp server.
>play a game primarily populated by 40 year olds>get mad when the devs make decisions catered to 40 year olds
>>585448709it's not wpvpwpvp happens in the world, because people need to traverse the worldwarmode is a bad bg that nobody will play
>>585448709I want to wpvp so I will be playing the pvp serverwhy are you making it so complicated?
>>585448235War Mode makes wPvP casuals seethe because it forces them to play against other wPvP players looking, in that exact moment, to wPvP, when all wPvP casuals want to do is gank lowbies, people autorunning to BRD, people in loading screens, etc.It's always been that simple. "Because I want the player pool to be as casual as possible" is the only true answer; any other answer immediately smells of bitch.
>>585448807it makes perfect sense for blizz to cater to them. i just want dadgamers to be honest about what they want and how silly it is.
>>585448807best race car driver in the world is 41 and that requires more skill than mythic raiding
>>585448746yeah that feels like a good solution - can even put titles, achievements, cosmetic rewards or something like 1 more piece of the same loot and it wouldn't bother me
>>585448210When Blizzard redid the models in Warlords of Draenor they also had to redo all the player animations. The "jiggle physics" that existed pre-WoD aren't actual physics they're a clever animation loop to make the models look more alive. The old models also have subtle breathing and idle animations as well.Anyway, when Blizzard redid all the player models they were too lazy to painstakingly redo all of the hand crafted animations that gave the original models so much SOVL. So a lot of animations simply got cut. This has mostly gone unnoticed for years on retail because the pixel count of the Post-WoD models is vastly higher than the classic models. People basically get distracted by the new models and don't notice all the missing animations. With Forever, Blizzard took the retail player skeletons (which also have the retail animations) and stretched the classic player skins across them.So now if you play on classic mode you are not actually getting the classic models and animations. You are getting the classic models with the retail animations. Which now makes it jarringly obvious that jiggle, breathing, idle animations etc. are missing.
>>585448852warmode is not wpvpit's a dogshit bg that nobody will playif you don't like wpvp, simply play pve
>>585448852This.The only ones who are against War Mode are casuls who can only gank lowbies or badly geared players.>>585448818You can traverse the world in warmode and quest in it as well.
>>585448625
>brb wife aggro>hold on my kid->brb smokeyou are removed from the group. Don't waste other people's time.
>>585448746sweaties will never be satisfied, they will min max whatever challenges you put in too and just beg for more shit to do since they already trivialized it. if its a gear check then it stops being a thing once they have the gear, if its more mechanics they just dont stand in the fire or bring an extra protection potion, ect. you can't win and you shouldn't make the game around the 0.1%. sweaties will already have content to do, they'll chase the 1% drop chance items to boost their dps since ultimately the 0.1% just want to pump and post their parses and will min max themselves even for easy face roll content.
>>585448807>the 40 year old fantasy loving milfs aren't as freaky as the ones back in 2009.Actual boomer women ERP in WOTLK will never be topped. You could just feel that they were actual hippies IRL doing their fantasy larp online. The type of women who would imagine themselves in a Keith Parkinson painting.40 year old women now in retail and even classic era servers just aren't the same.
