Air Fryer EditionThread Theme: https://youtu.be/py003AfdeSMPrevious Mission: >>585452245>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>AC3 Translation Patcheshttps://pastebin.com/ET0rSVc3>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Kono's twitterhttps://x.com/kazutoki>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
>>585547007Bamco jewry. Just gotta wait for someone to upload better scans.>>585547203Yea, it's just the vinyl collection plus the deluxe version of the game. Even comes in two packages. My Steam version was literally just a piece of cardboard with a code on it lol.Japs got a steelbook, a USB drive with the OST, sticker set, dogtags, and a pin set. Gaijins get shafted as usual.>Warwolf has a pin too.
>>585462918okay, how about if you pitted the antagonist squadrons and rivals throughout the series in a battle against each other? I feel like including Dision wouldn't be that bad considering his AI wasn't capable against Nemo, BUT it did take going inside the internet to destroy him completely, so just the humans again for this question.
>>585548321>What if the reason TLS isn't blocked by clouds is because they reused Tonitrus Spear guidance laser code?having had a tiny bit of experience looking behind the scenes at how weapons in games are coded, I am CERTAIN that "blocked by clouds" is literally just one of like a dozen checkboxes that exists for every weapon, which they could enable at any time
>>585548520selling the same plane with different weapon set is just peak kikery, just give us a new DLC superplane rather than doing this.
>>585548572>UPEO representing 3absolutely disgustingGLORY TO NEUCOM
Can you take it all away? https://youtu.be/cDoPfMFlLu4
>>585548520Watch PA make it so that all the character alternate versions of the planes they bring have the same special weapons and abilities as the existing ones. Expecting anything more than a copy paste is too much given the state of online.
>>585548681>Infinity>7's Top Gun DLCboy do I have news for (you)
is it skill issue or is the x40 just shit at dogfighting? i'm replaying m28 with it and the shadows are belting my fucking ass, while the first time i played i blazed through them on an f22 on the same difficulty
>tfw missed out on the bomber jacket preorder windowIt was a little pricey anyways... it's fine...
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>>585548651>The Library of Alexadria that's trying to fucking burn itself down this timeWhat do you mean?
Man I'm super hyped for the update when online gets like fifteen more maps and longer missions and adjustable player counts and special rebalances and more planes and idolmaster collab (with my idol) and fixing the awful menus and a complete rework of the blueprints system (gold and normal) and a rematch button instead of needing to matchmake an entire new server each time and probably more good things I forgot.Probably coming really soon, it's going to be great.
is there any sort of matchmaking in multiplayer or cost balancing?my first match was me in my stock f-4 with two other stock f-4s and a fullback against morganswe did not win
>>585548840>Top gun DLCwell good thing I didn't buy that shite
>>585549018>can't get their numbers to replicate their liveriesGayass monkey paw bullshit man.
>>585549112Far as I can tell, not even a little. The Morgans aren't even the biggest problem out there.
>>585549087That's a lot of changes, you reckon they will have it all ready for AC9?
>>585548742Some guy was datamining things and said the Razgriz F-14 had different abilities. It had the +plus zoll gained ability I think.It's possible he was lying/wrong but he posted videos of other datamined things so it seems reliable.>>585548840Well ACI didn't sell planes at least.Did make them tournament rewards so you needed to either save up months worth of free fuel or buy extra, but you couldn't buy them outright.
>>585549112You get the Morgan at level 1 of the battle pass, before even playing a single match, so they could have been legitimately brand new.There seems to be slight SBMM since if you keep winning you start getting level 2 and level 3 missions, and seeing the same names over and over.>>585548742Remember they're forgoing traditional DLC planes in favor of battlepasses and selling the plane afterwards.The battlepass may be an Online thing but the planes themselves still need to appeal to the singleplayer only crowd
>>585548693>GLORY TO NEUCOMwhy should I care about one supranational organization / corpo over any other?
>>585549187I think there is some rating based matchmaking just because I have to wait a long fucking time to get games now and I didn't when I was lower rank.It's not just because most people have figured out online sucks and stopped playing, because I can run around in the lobby and see various people fading out from existence as they get games. There are constant blue suits disappearing while I'm waiting five minutes to get told matching cancelled because no opponent found.
>>585549531they make the cooler superplanes
>>585549616Debatable but UPEO and GR have buddies in their ranks. Neucom is staffed by disloyal whores.
I fought Cocoon Squadron and now Gravity is genuinely growing on me
>>585550443>debatableMost of GR units are just normal planes reskin what are we talking about
>>585550712XFA-36 is pretty cool.I'm very glad it's back after decades. Never expected that to happen.
>>585550712>Most of GR units are just normal planes reskin what are we talking aboutCOFFIN is a cool aesthetic and for all their flash Neucom planes don't perform meaningfully better than GR's kit apart from flight ceilings in a single mission. Even in their own route Neucom still keeps coming back to White Valley base because they can't knock it out properly, and GR's still planning attacks on Megafloat when Ouroboros kicks things off.Also in general Delphinus are overrated fictional plane designs. I'd rather look at the Falken or XFA-27.
>>585550443Fiona a cute
>>585549479I doubt that there is SBMM for the emergency sorties, and I see a lot of the same names in those. I honestly just feel like there is regional partitioning of players for matchmaking. I changed lobbies earlier and there were two options. A 30 player lobby and a 1 player lobby. I doubt that online is dead to the point where it's just 31 players.
>>585550712GR's Eagle+ is so good for a mid tier plane it just rapes anything in Neucom's arsenal
>>585551149>Delphinus are overratedShould've used the prototype Forneus design instead
>>585551164>betrays UPEO for her sister>regrets betraying UPEO because Neucom sucks>fights with her sister and neither trusts each other enough for Fi to join Ouroboros>wants to kill Dision for poisoning her sister's mind>sucks so she brings Nemo along to do it>literally every voice call to Nemo is her trying to get Nemo to do something for her>abandons Nemo and Neucom after Dision because she's just too sadFi's a FUCKING BITCH. She doesn't deserve Erich's sympathy.
>>585550643Here comes the boom>Here comes the boom
>>585551519I'll do anything for that smile
>>585549035Basically a lot of IMO mismanagement with what's allowed on the site. Massive amounts of AI generated galleries, and the allowance of EXTREMELY (like really really really really fucking bad) low quality AI MTLed translations so users can farm points for uploader privileges.Basically AI hit the place like a bunker buster hits a Land Battleship and the site admins have no desire to deal with it in any meaningful way much to the chagrin of many users.
>>585551670Unironically Nemo's motivation for supporting Fiwhat a silly murderous AI :D
>>585548991any suggestions
>>585551937use a different planethe X-40 is just bad
>>585550643Gravity is peak cheesy nip hop, I love it. And it has a really sick violin in the insturmental track. I have no idea why they gave it to Simp Squadron but I'm glad they did.
I got too greedy and crashed in Chandelier!
crybaby faggot from yesterday heregot m14 s rank first try today and the medalwe're back
>>585551937FA36 is the true superplane of the GAME
>>585551836Oh yeah I've noticed the AI shit on other doujin sites too, any retard can slop out an MTL of hentai that are barely comprehensible because none of these fuckers speak enough Japanese to correct the AI hallucinating. It's a shame too because exhentai houses a lot of stuff like art books and non-porn doujin works that exist literally nowhere else outside the Japanese Internet sphere.
I yearn for Kate like twitter yearns for Malfoid (I yearn for Malfoid, too)
>>585552213Hell yeah, buddy. Always nice to be done with a tedious mission.
>check emergency sortie party>got a Chandelier sortie>literally no one nails the target except me>50K score while everyone else is 20K lowerYou guys said partying guarantees a sortie win, am I being trolled or what?
>>585552553Did you use the MGP/SFFS Frogfoot some anon has been shilling?
Just about the final hour before I call it a full day, get your voices in:https://strawpoll.com/xVg71x64ryrhttps://strawpoll.com/PKgle4DERZp/https://strawpoll.com/Q0Zp7o9YAgM/
>>585552610NTA. Is SFFS even useful on Chandelier? The gunpods sure are, but I enjoy flying the F4 more.
>>585552610No, I'm farming EXP with my Rafale and I'm out of ammo by the backup generator part and I can't help anymore, my teammates are nowhere to be seen I'm nailing stuff, it's almost like I'm being trolled by the whole lobby
>>585552635>don't care about voting, just want to check resultsFeels fairly consistent with the general over the years, I remember similar discussions during 7's lifetime with roughly the same ratio of opinions. I still want Project Aces to make an X-Wing/TIE Fighter game.
do you think putting parts on the A-6 upgrades the one you use in mission 14?
>>585552750You can bomb the chamber from above
>>585553046I've read that it does. I haven't done a NG+ run yet though.
>>585551996yeah i figured, they should've given it the shielding UAVs instead of those fuckass laser UAVs>>585552304if it didn't have the goofy variable geometry and the boxy underside it'd be 10 times cooler
>>585552750Different anon. Attackers get +50% damage to ground targets and a single SFFS will delete a shield layer, compared to a double UGB + double missile from the Phantom. F-4 flies better and its guns fire straight, but the Su-25 also gets gunpods that fire straight and its regular downward pointing gun does double the damage of the F-4's gun before any other modifiers.You know how you can gun down the second phase of cooling units by flying straight with your Phantom and just going near-stall slow? The Frogfoot deletes those faster with just its regular gun.
>>585553079Is that faster than just deleting stuff with the gunpods?
>>585552514
>>585552904Gaah I'm so tired of fucking star warsFuck offfffff
>>585549015Wasn't it like $250? Not worth
>>585553234Don't worry buddy, Star Wars is fucking dead these days.
>>585552490All they have to do is ban AI genned image galleries and other low quality unorganized galleries, focus on archiving artist works and enforce a moderately stricter policy on translations. MTL is never going away (it's been a thing for years) but you can at least demand some fucking effort and quality control from them instead of letting faggots game the system slopping out beyond sub par translations so they can get site privileges
>>585552904I read this as>13 apathetic players who just want to fly around and don't care about the details>1 weirdo contrarian>24 people who wouldn't like it but still might go along with it because they also really want to fly around
>>585553174Once you're in position to shoot, the Su-25 certainly saves time on DPSing the targets down. Bout conversely it wastes time getting into position to fire its guns compared to the F4.
>>585553046the thought crossed my mind but i figured since it also has the set isaf livery that its probably an entirely separate entity
>>585552904>Star WarsWhat happened to Squadrons anyway?I liked the campaign but I have no idea why the multiplayer died pretty much instantly
i love kate but i can't deny that tasha is also top tier
>>585553428Bro you know that thing teenagers do that they've been told to shun since birth, they overindulge because they're stupid kids and that's what they do. And then only slowly start coming back to a healthy place where you aren't "the chosen one" anymore.I did that with star wars. And now whenever I look at it and the people who want more of it I want to puke.
>>585553865Skill floor too high, skill ceiling even higher. The average normie has enough trouble comprehending 3D movement as it is without being locked into cockpit view and having to juggle power distribution bullshit, and that's before we get into the movement tech like drifting.You ever try flying a TIE Fighter in VR? It's a genuine nightmare.
>>585535161Unironically it could pull that off, hell Star Fox did it 30 years ago
>>585554091Ok was it good
>>585553231
>complete the destruction of expo city extremely efficiently, 6 minutes on the clock>but I don't want the cadet to blow her brains out>kill everyone except one of the ventus and proceed to spend 5 minutes just following him while sperg wingmen spray their MGs aimlessly around us
>>585554284I shot down Ventus and then left the nuggets alone so Mavisman could go home and cry into her pillow.
>>585552904I feel like ace combat's soul lies on how real planes (with hundres of missiles) fare against scifi stuff.
>>585554226Yeah
>>585554284>but I don't want the cadet to blow her brains out
>>585553839hey wait a fuckin minuteI know those colors and those ears... by god...
>>585554442what if she's cute
>>585553893Fuck: TashaMary: KateKill: T(ew)y
>>585554284>but I don't want the cadet to blow her brains outhuh???
>>585554598>he didn't merc all the nuggets
>>585554038I just don't trust Disney after fumbling the franchise for over a decade, but X-Wing/TIE Fighter were some pivotal titles for the old space flight/combat flight games forever ago and Japs love Star Wars. Project Aces getting the license and giving their junior devs or associates (like the Access Games folks who did all the handheld Ace Combat titles) while the oldheads supervise sounds like it'd be cool.The old games also play surprisingly well remapped to a controller Ace-Combat style, with the caveat that you still want to be near your keyboard or something for lesser used functions you didn't end up mapping to the gamepad.
>>585554451> << Blue bodies, that emblem... it's them. The Buns of Razgriz. >>
>>585554643I'm not confused about what he meantI'm confused as to why he doesn't want that
>>585554226Landmaster missions are okay, not great not terrible. Certainly better than Blue Marine at last.
>>585554831what if she's cute
>>585554091Sorry. The best we're gonna get is "shake hands" quick-time events.
>>585554964my squadmates are cuter, and Gemma was firing at themFox 2
>>585554964Still a retard that led the rest of her nugget buddies to the slaughter. She should join them.
>>585554835I did what >>585554038 that guy did, but with nintendo.
>>585554964>>585554525She's a goddamn Soat
>>585554964>what if she's cuteshe'd still be a SOAT
>Land Battleship 3 ace>Destroy the named aircraft that appears in Operation Broncobuster when all TGTs are destroyed before the B-1B reaches the halfway point.What's the halfway point? Is it when they say they have 50% fuel remaining and there's the joke about making it a one-way trip?
>>585553865Skill cap insanely high. Once you learned the power management and drift tech to always have full bars in everything and constantly be drifting around you could legit solo a deathmatch lobby and go like 30/0 if nobody on the enemy team had practiced all that shit.In short you don't lose engine power while drifting (couple seconds), so during your drift, you would take all power out of engines and into guns+shields to overcharge those, or just guns in a shieldless TIE, then back into engines as your drift ends, followed by another drift. It gave both evasion and offensive power way above normal play.Also the final balance patch kinda fucked over the rebels by nerfing the A-wing to a pretty unjustified degree leaving it significantly worse than the TIE Interceptor and the TIE Defender, latter of which was its own entire fucking problem as it was a little "lore accurate" let's say.>>585554067Funny enough I played Squadrons in VR. Doing all the movement and power tech in that trained my VR tolerance to infinite. I really liked flying the Defender even though it was objectively broken as fuck.
>>585554714I just finished Ace Combat 5 for the first time and ngl it's a bit forced.Like it's cool and the story fits perfectly for the events of the story, but i don't really see how everyone in-universe made the connection to a fictional(?) story about an evil demon turned hero.
>>585554650I don't think disney could make a game like tie fighter where you play as the villain. Not without the character defecting to the wholesome chungus rebellion at the end of the first story arc.
>>585555184about 2:30-2:00 when the time limit shows when you're attacking the battleship
>>585555184I think it's when they appear on the map and start moving in to bomb it.The ace only spawns at the very end too after they dropped the bombs. I missed him my first time because I assumed I'd fucked it up and he wasn't spawning. By the time I noticed him I already had missiles in the air so the mission ended before I could kill him.
>>585555306Unironically it's due to a movie version of BDfaP releasing recently in-universe. The Journey Home is from the movie's soundtrack.
>>585555526>did it with 3:09 on the clock>>585555575Hey guess what I just didThanks anons. It's not as tight as I thought then
If the soat cadet doesn't kill herself, she then has 6 angry usean men who probably haven't felt the touch of a woman in months to contend with. It's mercy to let her die.
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>>585555575>himThe wording to get her to spawn is pretty weird, but Phantom Granny might be the fourth good Sotoan after Cope and the Ventus uncs.
>>585555723MIG31bro did nothing wrong but he got mauled
>>585555396I'll always appreciate Battlefront II's campaign it technically wasn't great and was just some dude monologuing most of the time but I loved that it was bleak. You never defect and never turn into a "good guy" but the MC knows and understands he's on the wrong side but stays for his comrades and the fact that he has no where to go and knows nothing else due to being a clone trooper
>>585555723i like the ice cream guy
I'm just gonna say it the Delphinus is butt ugly
>>585555723>Granny might be the fourth good Sotoan after Cope and the Ventus uncs.The guy next to her in the red plane is the fifth. Dude was embezzling from the Sotoan military to feed war refugees and spend ten years in jail for it
>>585555723I like the dude that died 12 years before the war and nobody knows who was actually flying the plane.
>>585555836Skill issue on his part.
Rivets.
>working on stuff>right click steam to check on something>notice a game I don't recognize>triple-takewhat the fuck, I didn't know about thisinstantly downloaded and I'm binging this shit tonight
>>585556196Helluva glow up
<<Yo, do you ever wonder if married guys have to get rid of the stuff he had with ihs ex, like photos and videos and stuff, or like, keep it?>>
>>585556196The jump in detail between 7 and 8 is actually insane.
>>585556234It's great. PA had to delay the balance update but their change went through to make Zero "standalone" (it's still currently part of 8 so you technically have two copies on your computer) with achievements, just like it is for the console versions. Perfect timing since I'm about to finish my final run for medals and will soon have 100%'d 8.
>>585556196>>585556548I love all the complaining prior to release about 8's visuals not being any better than 7, meanwhile 8 on minimum settings still looks better than 7 on ultra.
>>585556548The benefit of not having to build your game for the fuckin PS4 and Xbone.
>>5855566718's only real downside visually is the fucking ghosting from the shitty DLSS/FSR being stuck on.
That's right you greasy fucks. You're all just a demographic to me. A number.
>>585556548What I personally love is that the fictional designs also got redesigned, they didnt just slap higher res textures on 7's assets
>>585556196>>585556918Wow I never realized how shit 7's models and textures looked until now
This general will go down in history. The filthy soats fried alive here will inspire those who come after.
>3 teammates insta pick 3 attackers in warfare
>>585556302><<No, for real. I was flipping through my old pics and came across some shit that stopped me dead in my tracks like oh shit that's gonna be hard to explain.>>
>>585557071Time to get MVP with your LAAMboat and leave them to their own devicesThey made their choice
>>585556720It's not even like 7 is a bad looking game, but 8's detail is just on another level. >>585556918Yea, they didn't really need to but I guess they figured they may as well improve them since they had to remake the models anyway. >>585556984They're not shit at all, anon. Keep in mind that 7 came out in 2019 and had a very troubled development cycle. They look worse than they are when you have them side by side to 8.
>>585557225True
>>585555836>wrong sideThat's part of the fucking problem with Disney. The old EU novels handled it a hell of a lot better. The reason the empire was able to persist for as long as it did was because the empire wasn't entirely evil. The Emperor was evil. A lot of high ranking officials were evil. But the empire provided good for the galaxy too. The empire was extremely efficient at policing the shipping lanes and keeping them safe. Criminal cartels were pushed back into Hutt space.When the Empire fell, many worlds consolidated into the Imperial Remnant not because they had dark hearts or had tyranical forces holding a gun to their heads. They remained in the Imperial Remnant instead of joining the New Republic because life was safer and more prosperous under imperial rule than it had been under the Old Republic, and quite frankly the New Republic was a hell of a lot worse than the old republic for quite a number of years as it repeatedly shat the bed a few times with its growing pains of transitioning from a terrorist group to a governing body. Gilad Pellaeon is an example of an imperial officer that embodies the good and honorable facets of the empire.
>>585557225>that mechanical detailJesus, that's beautiful to look at.
Will we ever get tree collision?Is there some way to make only nearby trees load their hitboxes so battles over forests don't kill a PC?
>the Lighthouse disguised tanker ship mission begins with a "LA LA LA LA" transmission>it's not the same transmission as in 7, but stillI'm becoming more and more convinced that it really is a fucking AI.
Y'know, "Wings of Theve" is kinda a shit tagline for 8. Literally just the thing they call you in-game. As if 5 was called "Demons of Razgriz". Not nearly as good as "Unsung War" or "Fires of Liberation". What would be a better tagline? Terminus Fingers? Rise Above? Promised Land?
>>585557386Especially when you remember that this level of detail is fucking REAL.
>>585557427Please no, 50% of my deaths in war thunder were because I crashed into a tree while getting chased by a missile
>>585557386Exhaust petal mechanical linkage porn. Really looking forward to seeing the other fictional designs with this level of fidelity.
>>585556918this picture reminded mewhenever you sortie for a mission and it gives you that ~3-second-long animation of your plane being towed out of the hangar, look at the interior side of any of the landing gear wheels, front or backin almost every case, only the exterior side of the wheel (and maybe even just the wheel body / hubcap-looking part, not even the tire) is animated to rotatethe interior side of the wheels in AC8 almost never rotates
>>585557476I think the best subtitle would subtly reference the propaganda.Maybe something like Ace Combat 8: False Promises
In mission 24 is the unit that gets in the destination randomized?
>>585557476The JP tagline is "False Wings", which is a bit on the nose but still a better fit imo
>>585557602>Ace Combat 8: False Promisesthe title is supposed to make you want to buy the game, not prime you to expect false advertising and let-downs
>>585557476It's called wings of theve because you were doing a ghost of kiev. Or we were until Rex ruined the whole false kills/fake accomplishments pysop by just legitimately soloing everything.
>>585548491>play with an aircraft with base 1500 or more power>only aircraft that start at 1500 or higher requires first Sargent>BP lvl 87 and only chief master Sargent>premium battlepass aircraft pixy is the only thing I have that can do these missionsKinda fucked
>>585557695kek, you're right, didn't think of it from a marketing angle
>>585557734What I fucking hate most about online is that normally in these skinnerbox gachashit games you can just do your dailies in 15 minutes and be done with it for the day. Hypothetically you can get your daily emergency sorties taken care of that fast. But in practice it can fucking take hours to get your emergency sorties.
Rex, did I ever tell you about Moon 11? She was Sotoa’s exotic teenage pilot apprentice, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized land. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the steppe; barely legal in most tribes.
>>585557678I guess that isn't the worst name change, but it's probably my least favorite tagline of pretty much all the titles. False Wings is better.
>>585557856And she was a good buddy.
>>585557856Kek.Tho i'm pretty sure the flashback implies they were either the same age or she was older than him.
>>585557817Yeah they definitely need to do something about those missions.They need to do what PSO2 does and have set times emergency shit happens. Hell trying to do the marine unit ones is ass cause all I get are pic related
>>585557856>>585558014this but Cope and Tewy
>>585556842>Would you play an AC that only had fake planes?>Only 1 person voted "Yes I would actually prefer that"You. You are my new oomfie. I will conquer the world to have you show me your made up stupid fucking frutiger aero world of ace combat and listen to you gorp on and on about your perfectly thought out vision of what futuristic strangereal would look like. Show me your plane OCs.I will suck your fucking toes to hear you babble about the politics between what is essentially shinra and the hyrule kingdom. Show me your independent website.
>>585557976It's just them trying to cash in on "Ghost of Kiev" popularity. You'd be surprised how many normal-faggots still think that Ghost was real.
>>585556842I didn't vote, but I 100% agree we need fictional low tier planes. Just for balance reasons. Like in 8 we could have used a lot more carrier planes, and if real life can't provide then have Enso Order cook something up.
WHERE'S MY PATCH KONO
>>585557712Yea, naming something that really only has relevance for the first 10% of the game is bizzare.
>>585557817>I get 4 Scrambles in a row instead of Emergency Sorties
>>585558539What's fucked is that scrambles CAN give you gold BPs. JUST LMAO AT THE FUCKING DROP RATES.
>>585558420They had the opportunity to add in at least half a dozen "low" tier planes. Especially given the online, it's a complete fuck up that most of the planes are mid-high tier.WHERE'S MY FUCKING TORNADO PA
>this is what the japs consider fun and balanced
>>585558829The japs love complete fucking autistic slop.
>>585557817>>585558091>>585558539just search for partyi normally find an emergency sortie or scramble with a couple minutes of refreshing[spoilerjust remember to host an open party when you get one[/spoiler]
>>585558895>just search for the partyHow many times do we have to tell you that what you're perceiving of as SBMM is some kind of regional shit and that where one person gets piles of emergency sortie lobbies, others can go for over an hour or more without seeing any parties at all?
>>585558409I mean Ukraine did embrace the meme pretty hard and even named an air squadron after the myth (whose emblem coincidentally looks like the one the Ghost Squadron from 7's VR campaign has).The funniest part to me is someone from either the government or their intelligence service saying 'Yeah bro we totally made that up to boost morale when shit was fucked six ways from Sunday, and that's why we kept the Russians away from Kyiv,' when the reality is that the Russians just fucking suck at literally everything and that the myth was made up by some faggotass War Thunder YouTuber to farm clout off an actual war where people were dying.
>>585558829Dog fights are more interesting when the flight models are more realistic and you actually have to give a shit about air speeds, gravity, energy retention, etc. AC is a fun PvE experience but trying to take it seriously for PvP is one step removed from PvPing in 6 degree of freedom space games where both parties just point their noses at each other and magdump while orbiting each other in circles.
>>585559098>they embraced their propaganda pretty hardno shit
>>585557262>The old EU novels handled it a hell of a lot better.It's far too off topic for me to get into here, but that's really more a result of Georgie boy committing the classic movie blunder of making the bad guys look badass as fuck. They were never intended to be anything but stock bad guys that get BTFO by the plucky heroes ala Nazis in a 50's WW2 movie. But shit even then you had characters like Piett or Veers who were enough for the audience to get why anyone would throw their lot in with the Empire. Disney just can't do anything right with Star Wars except by accident.
How do you get the Titan's Fall medal?I'm destroying the pillars using only missiles with wingmen set to cover, and it's still not popping
>>585559019Works on my machine.
>>585548491>trying to do my good goy missions>get snipped by the number 1 Ace on the team with the most pointsThey seriously need to make killing non aces in warfare a detriment. If you can just treat the mode as team death match and still be top in the lobby there's a problem
>>585559650And it's worth a try for everyone, but it's not a good solution since it's not dependable for everyone.
>>585556918The 01 and 02 are different aircraft models too, so it makes sense that there might be some incidental design differences between prototypes.
Zero in PCX2 or Steam?
>>585559162I'm saying I don't believe for a goddamn second they actually started spreading the rumor, unless you think Ukrainian glowies specifically picked a random YouTuber who was at best vaguely relevant to the topic of a real war to start spreading it. It was the other way around and they ran with it, which I believe for no other real reason than it's funnier.
>>585559661wtf why are people killing me in the pvpve mode
>Gemma FA-36s in both Mission 23 and Mission 25 are worth 380 points>the humble Fulcrums are worth 390 points>Phantoms, Fishbeds, and Intruders are worth 370 points and you only see those guys in the earliest missionsIt's absolutely brilliant. Despite having state of the art planes Gemma nuggets are only technically more combat effective than cold war surplus.
>>585559661Maybe you should've stopped trying to destroy the carrier and responded to the guy chasing you.
>>585559839>>585559904Trying to complete the dumb ass week 5 missions. On my last co-op warfare one anyway then I'm free
>>585560014He's right though. It's not like you're a proper attacker who was raking in points hand over fist. You should have attacked the fighter that infringed on your airspace. Even your level 5 morgan could have put enough extra pressure on the opponent to give your teammate some wiggle room to kill him so that you can go back to buzzing the carrier.
>>585560014Gunboats in Assault count for the missions, they'll pop to a single missile. LCACs count too, just double tap.
Call me up, I'veGot to feel aliveCall me up highSet me free to flyMy blue sky home
I'll be dead broke sucking dick behind Long Caster's for some ZOLL. but is it worth it?
>>585561105It's the best attacker, so yea. Though personally I prefer the F-15E.
>>585561105>best Warfare attacker>is it worth it?
>>585561105Su-34 is the best attacker in online right now, Strike Eagle and Frogfoot have niche applications where they're a stronger choice thanks to stacking SFFS bomblets but UGBL is fucking insane.
>>585561276Can you test the SFFS bomblets max distribution? It can get pretty wide if you aim from high up, at least in my experience.
Jesus Christ this is so much better than the Ace threads on /vee/, fuckin hell
>>585561535/v/ is a shithole that doesn't play vidya, especially multiplayer. Like you'd never get the meat and potatoes discussion for online AC8 in /v/.
>>585557856It's more like>Rex, did I ever tell you about Moon 11? She was Sotoa's finest LARPer. She had the loosest lies and the most unearned perks, it should have been illegal in most tribes to lie like that.
>>585561671I haven't been active on /v/ since 2015. There was a decade long decline, I can't even imagine what it's like now.
>>585561535>Expecting quality from /v/It's the year of our lord 2026 going on 27 and you still go to that shithole. Bet they're still whining about the XO instead of the dogshit state of multiplayer
>>585561671They were good for like the first week, now there's at least 3 resident schizos, two AI spammers, and nuggets complaining the game is too hard, then you find out they're on simple controls and have no concept of what parts do or how to make basic special weapon selections, you know- the shit the tutorial teaches you at the very start?
>>585561535Welcome home, buddy. You got me curious so I checked it out>>>/v/750309045It's barely about the game at all
>>585561876That's a typical /v/ thread. It's just /v/ themed /c/ at the best of times, /trash/ at the worst.
I really think the Prowler and Growler should have uniquely been given four special weapons to allow for some variety in their gameplay
>>585561876And I'm glad to be, too. Feels like I just took a shower. Fuck.
>>585561991I've been workshopping the Growler on multiplayer, Foxhounds can fuck it up as usual, but if you can survive long enough, using ECM in cloud cover can be downright fucking nasty, and since most players can't into guns, you can get some good kills out of it. But maneuverability will be your greatest challenge, plane can't turn for shit.
>>585561876What the fuckIs there any culture left at all
>>585562208Nope, none. /v/ is not for videogame discussion, it's like 5 other boards in one.
>>585562151I'm not really arguing about the effectiveness of EW or even the planes themselves. I just wish they did more than The One Thing each of them have going on
>>585561535I agree and imo it's really weird, cause usually /vg/ threads are complete dogshit compared to /v/ threads but /aceg/ specifically is weirdly civil and actually talks about their games.
>>585562346>cause usually /vg/ threads are complete dogshit compared to /v/ threadslol
>>585561876I stopped using 4chan consistently for a few years with the exception of an occasional trip to /vr/ which has seen some decline since I was last using it, otherwise I also check the mahjong soul general and started checking here when I was playing AC8. The decline of /v/ is both shocking and not too surprising at the same time.
>>585562346>but /aceg/ specifically is weirdly civil and actually talks about their games.We had a thread-long meltdown about a black woman a few threads back and people here regularly get pissy because they didn't pay attention to anything during the game
>>585561690It's so funnily relevant that Tewy was bullshitting about how she used to raise horses and shit. Cope calling her on that shit was slick.
>>585562346I think it's because Ace Combat requires some competence in order to play. I hesitate to say "skill", as that's a bit elitist. This is an arcade jet game after all. But you do need to understand what you're doing in order to make it through the game, and can't just sleepwalk through shit like the Ladon.
>>585562492I didn't read your post, but who the fuck is this Cope guy talking to you the whole game and why aren't people acknowledging him? also this game is fucking hard, I can't even get past the prologue.
>>585545631FUCK YOU
>>585562434Brother i have seen thread-long schizophrenic meltdowns in this board that make any /v/ schizo look like a sane reasonable individual, it is not close.
>>585562693>he's rightLMAO
>>585562554Yeah the game has several skill checks that would filter nuggies, I'm surpeised Mission 27 is apparently "hell", as kvetch'd on /v/. And yeah that's not mentioning Ladons or Shadow 22. Like half of their grievances would be solved if they just learned how to shoot guns.
>>585562208Do shitposters and schizos count,
>>585562346Depends on the day. Yesterday die example when those vtumors were spamming here the /v/ thread was good.
>>585562315Here's the thing though there's like 8 boards to talk about videogames on. In the late 2000s when the culture was finest there was only /v/.The traffic was minimal enough that it could handle it. Over the years as that traffic expanded, so did the need for forum volume, so /vg/, /vp/, /vr/, etc. were created. So now all the communities are spread around into generals, like villages on islands, on a sea of traffic.All the bulletins we used to scribble on the walls are all sunken with the old streets. And the diversification we got from that intermingling isn't really there anymore, since you have to go out of your way to find communities. I wouldn't have played ACZ if I hadn't stumbled across a thread about it in the 2000s while spouting memes about demon's souls.
>>585561876Holy fuck what a horrendous thread. If only jannies would extend their moderation past banning people for "racism" and discourage this low quality dogshit.
>>585562862>if they just learned how to shoot guns.The game really stresses the use of the planes gun. You'd think the unlimited ammo on Vet and below and the forced DFM segments would be a sign
>>585562946Like, I enjoy that there's clear bridges between some generals. Like armored core general and ace combat general might as well just kiss each other already.
>>585562346I think it's because we're generally low on drama, and we don't have things like the salesposting from gacha generals to be a source of constant shitflinging. Also a good deal of spite because this franchise has been on life support for the vast majority of the general's existence.
>>585563045Almost every Shadow squadrons starts with them sloooooowly flying straight at you in formation not even 2 klicks away. They might as well have a "please shoot me" neon sign on them. And STILL people can't catch a clue, and not just nuggies either.
>>585563069The armored core general is slow enough that it lives on /m/ though.
>>585563045>>585563163Problem with being good is you start losing out on dialogue
>>585563163One of my favorite moments of this game is gunning down one of the Shadows on mission 3 during the opening merg and flying inbetween their formation, shit was awesome.
>>585563264True lmao, no more scripted invincibility. Luckily tho being good at the game is actually reflected now in minor ways, like saving Jackpot 9 and getting Gemma flight leader to shoot herself.
>>585563501>getting Gemma flight leader to shoot herself.Lmao just got that mission ending like thirty minutes ago
>>585563176See this is what I'm talking about, you used to be able to just gamble on making a thread on /v/ if you felt like talking about the game with someone.Every once in a while you'd find an individual among all the anonymous meme spewing rabble who you could just talk to.Now I need to follow a bunch of signs and ask around where I can find the right place to talk about bomberman. Oh I wanna talk about rouge's tits. Maybe some god hand. Where's the generals for those?Whoops took a wrong turn, now we're at /u/, sorry ladies, haha, y-you too.At the end of the day, what do you have left of /v/ after you've taken all the communities and fanbases of various series and neatly organized them into subforums on the site?It's just the gutter. /v/ is a containment board.
>>585562346I just like planes and talking about planes, fictional or otherwise. And if other people wanna talk about planes I think that's neat. And I like talking about these games with a fun story.
>>585563264I didn't even hear jobber22 say anything at the end. Didn't even need guns. I was already missile maxing from the fight earlier. I just staggered my missiles out instead of double tapping like people do.>MSL>pause>MSL>Pause>HCAA>pause>HCAA>pause>QAAM>pause>QAAM>pause>repeatJust watch your speed and avoid overshooting. They are triggerhappy with the flares and kulbits, but there are limits to how often they can pull those tricks and simple continuous pressure denies the shadows a chance to recover between evasions.
>>585563728I remember old /v/ and it was always terrible. Like yeah you COULD find good discussion, but it was covered in radioactive garbage. These other boards are fucking life boats.
>>585563795Yeah. Hence,>gamble on making a threadScrolling /v/ was no different than doomscrolling and bedrotting now.
>>585563735I tried staggering, 'cause I did catch on him having a short window where he won't kulbit or flare right after doing either, but I couldn't quite get the timing down, so I just sprayed his ass down lol. I'm pretty sure I only restarted M28 once, and that's because I had a suspicion I was taking too long to get S-rank first try on Elite.
>>585549616The Delphinus superplane is overcokoed. R-101 is visually cleaner.I NEED Asterozoa, or at least ACX-style predecessor
>>585562346We managed to keep this general going against an endless tide of gachashit threads for over a decade because we generally tolerate each other's company.
>>585563501Anon, shooting down those nuggets is in no way a show of skill. I've had Fishbeds give me more of a runaround.
>>585562434My guy, the Warframe general had near daily 200 post long shit flinging over what the "official" /vg/ clan is despite clans being essentially meaningless to 99% of players.The less said about the Visual Novel general the better.
>>585564443I'm pretty sure my fucking wingmen shot a bunch down since I was specifically trying to avoid them but kept hearing they'd been shot down.
>>585564443Yeah, but you'd be surprised how many people had no idea it was even a thing, you at least had to go out of your way to splash them, and there's a good number of em too, 8 I believe.
>>585564367I wonder which generals might come back if gachas were moved to their own board.I remember a guy in /mbg/ gifted me Bannerlord when it came out. I hope he's doing okay
>>585564367Really. What number is the katawa shoujou general on right now.Sir, I promise you, if the /aceg/ threads died for even a short period of time or any longer, I can guarantee you that any ace combat news would prompt -somebody- to revive the general.Because we know there's old faces here. There's probably guys in here I passed (you)s with twenty or ten years ago and I'd never know. But the funny thing is, it doesn't matter. AC anons have their charm. We're all going through life and still end up passing by here every so often. Some anons probably not with us anymore.
>>585564854It gets deep when you've been with faceless strangers you could vaguely recognize, for years at that.
>>585564963Is this what it's like being in the KKK
Man, what's left to get excited about for videogames? AC8 was like the last big one and it delivered so good. now what.
>>585565035Sort of.>>585565593I dunno. I think we're in for a big crash for a wide number of factors, but in the end at least it looks like AC is going to make it through it just from the fact 8 was a huge hit before everybody gets the bad news.
>>585565593play your backlog or look at old shit while you wait for new things to interest you, maybe do other things, pick up a hobby or some other interest. Why do people gotta tell you how to entertain yourself bro?
>>585551836I have friend who works in tech at Google who thinks it was a mistake to ever let AI into the public's hands. He also proposed it should have been only accessible by certain companies and the government.In a way, he was trying to recreate Ace Combat 3 from first principles.
>>585565035Not really, people generally knew, even the guys who decided that the KKK aren't racist enough and founded their own with black robes and pirate hats knew people's identities and even helped each other get jobs.
>>585565759I was looking for a recommendation to further my disassociation and send my life into a spiral of neglect and irresponsible choices, not fucking life advice.
>>585553594Do the people moderating and running the site even get paid enough to care? Unfortunately with the way the world is going, who can be surprised that stuff is happening on those sites.
>>585565924uuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh play Hot Shots Golf 4, Crazy Taxi, Nioh 3, Truxton 2, Dragon Quest 6, Deathsmiles, listen to Genki Rockets and watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre 1 & 2. That's all I got for right now, maybe you can do something with that idk.
>>585565760>He also proposed it should have been only accessible by certain companies and the government.This was never going to happen because the basic principles - neural networks - have been freely available to the public for decades, maybe even a half century by this point.And even in the government's hands, they'd still be dangerous. This whole "race to AGI and superintelligence" is effectively "race to a nuke" but digital. And in the end it'll just result in an uncontrollable monster that governments will have to put down.
>3 console 6th-gen QAAM users can't get 50k points between themAttackers can carry a lot of munitions, but not a completely inept team. >>585561276>>585561482I'm on team Strike-Eagle, but all the attacker options are pretty strong. SFFS has much more potential than standard bombs, but it requires skill to use correctly; you can screw yourself over by being too low or nose-down and getting a narrow spread. I like this extra layer of challenge, and the F-15E can swap to XSDB if you are looping around at a poor angle for the cluster bomb.On the other hand UGB and UGBL can be thrown from up high or dropped on a fast-low pass and always cover the same area, so you can fly more freely and get to targets faster or avoid missiles better, which make it much more consistent to use, especially when you have teammates trying to kill your targets first.>>585562693>>585562849Gripen having a long tail like that with no wings is part of it's charm.
The initial aircraft in Ace Combat used to be the F-4 Phantom, but now it's the F-18 or F-16.I want to play Ace Combat, which starts with propeller planes and evolves into the F-4 and F-16.I think there's a chance that Ace Combat could be like Battlefield, which went from modern warfare to WWI and became a huge hit, but with a focus on aircraft from around WWI to the Cold War.
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>>585565684>Another glorious day on /v/
Why did the october 23rd update get delayed?
>>585557856Actually cope was the junior in that relation, it was full on shota sex between a 14 y.o. boy and a 21 y.o. woman
>>585566932Because of a shit ton of software vulnerabilities that AI found.
>>585566932They wanted to give everyone more time before the campaign got nerfed.
>Catch Tasha like this on the lower decks of the EnduranceWhat do you do anons?
Where does it store the fuel?
>>585568162You are not COOL enough to smoke yet young lady! Wait until Kate hears about this!
>>585568162I begin showing her pictures of Nomad lungs destroyed by tobacco smoke. She wouldn't want to end up like that, would she?
>>585568384the cock is clearly visible on that plane anon
>>585568384fuel is stored in the benis
>>585568443>Tasha when Kate wants to have a private word with her
>>585568570So it carries barely enough fuel to take off and thats it?
>>585568384Anon you see the obvious refuelling point there?>>585568449Based Baxter knows the dangers of Sotoan influence on our youth today!
>>585553194No, but on the flyback from the Backup core you can drop two bombs from above for some more DPS.SU-25 gun deletes core in about 10 seconds
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>playing AC0 for the first time>the audio is super crowded compared to 7/8>can't hear shit because everything is the same volume>this isn't a problem in the other titles>this isn't a problem in other games evenLmao
>>585568449>picpost remove sotoan lyrics
>>585569064At some point you just tune out all the warning sounds and learn to live with your HUD permanently in red.
>>585556842I always felt we needed a lot of prototype planes that didn't see service in this world cause shit calmed the fuck down but over in Strangereal things would in fact actually calm up. So Mach 3 interceptors like the Rapier feel like something that would have been produced in this world and would make great low-mid tier additions.>>585561535/v/ threads have become gooning to Tasha threads lately. Pretty much everyone who was playing the game over there have moved on.
https://x.com/Mis27g/status/2114230501859086541I guess sotoa invading japan now
>>585569817>the Nomads have broken Strangereal containment and are invading OUR Earth
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>>585568162overhand slap the cigarette out of her lips and then yell at her about how drugs are bad until she cries (so I know that she gets it)
>>585559852It gets better. > When you unlock the F-36 Game, you realize it's basically the best plane in AC8 and can solo the entire game on ace difficulty> If you don't kill the Gemma's somehow, they get shot down by random AA fire anyway> there is literally no outcome where the Gemma's survive without getting splashedReally drives home how absolutely shit the Gemmas are.
Well that's all done now. Thanks to the delays I was able to get my attacker only run in before the patch, and clearing Fatsia also got me my 25 million mrp achievement.
>>585570380Nah, I've had the Gemmas survive.Not making that mistake twice.
>>585557476Wings of Hope would've been better
>>585557476Cope and Seethe
>>585557476>What would be a better tagline?The Sotoan Solution
>>585554964Of course she's drawn by the ryona man>>585555204Sounds exactly like fuckin PSM chaining
What does cope say when rex is fucking kate?
So I'm something of an aspiring writer-director, and I was thinking about how I'd do an Ace Combat movie. The thing about Ace Combat that sets it apart in structure from all war stories is the central feature that is "the Ace of Aces", the player character. A faceless force of nature who has no real features or personality to them beyond that of the player's own, a player avatar. And their existence is often symbolic, like Rex symbolizes hope, Blaze symbolizes rebirth/redemption, things like that, very basic. These characters are elevated as superhuman, even god-like icons in ordwr to elevate the player by proxy, a power fantasy for us to live, which is all well good.The challenge comes when trying to make the superhuman "Ace of Aces" into a proper, distinct character, and I'm not sure how you could do it satisfyingly, especially when they're the central character of a movie. Mihaly and Tewy so far are the closest attempts to do so and they're good characters in their own right, but they certainly don't have the mystique and gravitas that our avatars do, which is again a key stylistic element of Ace Combat. Because otherwise it'd just be Top Gun.And then it clicked for me: AC4 and AC0 solved this issue, by NOT making the superhuman "Ace of Aces" the actual focus of the story, but rather a plot device to forward the true main character's arc. In AC0 that's obviously Pixy, he's the actual MC if you think about it, Cipher is hardly a character, and he not only forwards Larry's story, but also all the other downed aces in a neat documentary-style story. In AC4, the real main characters are the orphans and Yellow 13, and how the situation arounds them develops in response to Mobius' exploits. It's brilliant, really. You get to keep the element of supernatural mystery in the "Ace of Aces", and even get to properly explore them in a symbolist manner through their effect onto the principal characters.
>>585570867>69.... another number
>>585569694Put the P6M Seamaster in as a miniboss or something, it's basically the Ladon if it real.
>>585571114hi fellow mustard subscriber
>>585555204I never really got into Squadrons because I couldn't wrap my head around power management or the drift tech (it took me years to figure out PSMs in 7), but I do remember one super clutch TDM where my TIE D tied up (heh) the other team's A Wing for a stupidly long time, allowing my teammates to stage a comeback. The energy resupply secondary on the TIE D was OP.>>585570898I always saw Ace Combat as a Gundam series if the protag was never seen or heard. OYW spinoffs from the Zeon perspective treat the White Base pilots, and Amuro in particular, as horror movie villains that you're lucky to survive.
>>585571268I haven't watched any of his vids for a while, long time between uploads makes me forget the channel exists. The Seamaster was a very pretty plane, kind of a shame seaplanes are basically extinct barring a handful of niche modern ones. I think Japan operates one for ASW pruposes?
>>585570410Did you do any combined runs? I can only imagine how painful the carrier missions would be if you combined being restricted to the A-6E with no damage or guns only.
You get to design the game's next superplane. How would it look, perform, and what would its lore and weapons be? Mine would be a cranked-delta aircraft powered by four variable-cycle engines, capable of reaching hypersonic speeds in-game while remaining a competent dogfighter thanks to thrust-vectoring engines, retractable canards, and leading-edge slats. Its cockpit would use an ENSI COFFIN configuration. Developed by GR, it would be an independent heavy interdiction aircraft designed to also deal with the increasing proliferation of drone swarms. Its nickname is Aurora. It would have a high-damage, slow-firing gun that uses airburst shells and functions similarly to a SASM, inflicting chip damage on near misses and heavy damage on direct hits. Its special weapons would be EML, MSTM, and LACM.
God damn I stall so much in AC6 than I ever had in the other games, on one hand it gives a bit of an interesting feel to the flying that I haven't really felt, but also the sense of speed is kinda hard to gauge until enemies are right next to you, not to mention these maps are fucking YUGE.
>>585570435Yea but even if you let them live at Expo City they just come back and you kill them on Rocky Island.
>>585570898If you were to do an Ace Combat movie then yeah I think you are going to be doing it from the POV of Pixy, Yellow 13 or even Mihaly. There isn't a player character out there that would work without significant changes to the story and plot although I think AC8 would be the closest one they could work with. Otherwise I am in agreement with the Gundam horror story of >>585571281>>585571114Was one of the many things I was thinking of and frankly seaplanes make way more sense as a unit on Strangereal especially with all those island bases.
>>585555204>>585571281See I knew something was busted about the Tie Defender in that game when I was suddenly doing incredibly good in it compared to the other ships. >>585571520I guess the ones you fight in Expo City are only part of the Gemma Squadron?
I think you structure an Ace Combat film more like Dambusters where you focus everything on the superweapon, and maybe the enemy ace.Trying to make it span the full breadth of an Ace Combat protagonist's story arc is a bad idea. You basically have two hours, and that's enough for three battles if you're pushing it. Plus it's not going to be all battles, there's going to be a lot of people just talking.So basically it'd be>introduce protagonist>superweapon surprise! show how dangerous the superweapon is! also enemy ace kills someone important>talking "we gotta get the superweapon, here's how">initial plan fails, leading to second act low point>protagonist finds hope after conversation with most innocent/youngest squad member>change the plan, now it will succeed>second try at superweapon, during the last possible chance>during the battle, showdown with enemy ace, superweapon destroyed>everyone celebrates, protagonist kisses love interest>the end
>>585571651Well there has already been an AC film it was called Stealth and it was meh at best. Otherwise stick with the likes of Top Gun Maverick.
>>585571570I think PA doesn't quite realize the potential they have for implementing weirdo fuckass bullshit from the Cold War that never got a chance to be useful in our reality. They've already done things like airborne carriers and I'm pretty sire some lunatic proposed land battleships in a Popular Mechanics article at one point, but the niche of things that were seriously test and abandoned is kinda ignored. I'd like to see more seaplanes, more military hydrofoils, more WIG aircraft, more VTOLs besides Harriers.
>>585570898I think the best way to do them is to turn the legendary protagonist Aces into a mere concept, and not an actual character. 8 pretty much does this, as Wings are merely a symbol of hope that only exists to boost up morale, and not actually a unit able to turn the tides of war(at least before Ray showed up). Same with Garuda, I'm pretty sure he's never mentioned in the cutscenes outside of "that legendary ace that gives people something to believe in". And speaking of 6, you could easily make a movie with one of the Emmerian squadrons as the protagonists, with Garuda barely mentioned or showcased.
>>585571890Land battleships were more of an interwar concept and design.
Then again licensing is an issue. I doubt you could get schematics for the Seamaster or the abominations the Soviets were cooking up, much less 3d scans of airframes. But that doesn't mean they can't make up their own designs. Speaking of which, what the FUCK is this thing and why is it only in the online mode?>>585572174True, I think the immediate post-war stuff was more about making into tanks into a do everything vehicle.
If you get a scramble or an emergency then some of the pointless NPCs get different dialogue.I'm not sure why they bothered with that but they did. Though only a few of them get it so they didn't care that much.
>>585572387Ratte if modern
>>585572414The guy who runs the Round Table has special dialogue when you hit new ranks (and there are challenges associated with it), but there's no way to replay it or see it again.The online hub in general is just poorly designed. Everything is too far apart, you can access most features via the menu anyway, and for some god forsaken reason dash is on L2 instead of R2 like every other game I've played in the last decade.
>>585571890Yeah Strangereal feels a place where battleships armed with rocket assisted tallboys would have kicked off. It's an open buffet but PA just keep going for the bland options. Land battleships btw were proposed pre-WW1 in our universe and persisted all the way through to the interwar where they doubled as mobile aircraft carriers.
>>585572387It's odd that they went out of their way to add all these buffed up fictional ground units, but they only show up in one mode in online and not the campaign.
>>585573362There was some evolution and convergent evolution when it came to landships.>pre-ww1"Land tank warfare will be the same as naval warfare (because that's our best reference)">during WW1"We have no turret so multiple guns are necessary">after WW1>"MORE GUNS, MORE TURRETS, DIFFERENT CALIBERS SO THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING"And then it all fell apart when the reports from tank commanders came back and they told the tank designers to go fuck themselves.
>>585571417EW + No Damage and Fighter + Gun Only. All my runs were on Ace, except for my Multirole run which I accidentally did while doing a meme run for my first playthrough on elite. I kept Joker squad in planes "appropriate" for whatever point I was in the story, using what planes I had unlocked by certain missions on my first run as an upper limit for what I could put them in, so no Morgans or Games flying around to shit on Soats kn Theve or something.Carrier missions aren't a big deal, there's only four of them (Mission 3 in White Valley, 10's blimps, 11's Podarges, 12's Fort Grays, 26's fleet) and the A-6 handles them surprisingly fine. 2x MSL + 2X LASM knocks out a targetting blimp, Podarges can be cheesed by gunning their cockpits or their cargo racks, there's not a lot of fast movers at Fort Grays, and UGBs fuck up anything not in the air.No Damage was a little painful even with the endgame part because EW planes have really shitty A2G weaponry which meant being exposed to AA/SAMs for longer while MSL/Gunning targets. Would be best to do it on its own so you can actually pick planes appropriate for the mission, not that the EA-36 does bad at A2A. Guns only isn't actually all that crazy with limited ammo, there's a bunch of Fuel Trucks and oil tanks around on Annihilation missions that it's not really a problem. Ladon kind of sucked though becaus I just kept Joker in F-18Es and the Ladons have damage resist against guns, but it's still doable. Ships also get damage resist against guns, even gunboats/missile boats will tank whole seconds of sustained fire, so it's best to have allies target them.Funny enough the mission 28 Shadows gave me a harder time on Attacker only than Fighter + Gun only thank to attacker guns pointing down. Didn't have trouble getting gun kills for the rest of that campaign but with how twitchy Topkek and friends are I couldn't cope with my gun being wrong.
>>585571281>>585571570You're right, and I thought about that too, but Gubdam didn't come to mind admittedly. I think Pixy and Yellow 13 show how feasible it is to frame the story from the "villain's" POV, with our Ace of Aces as being some sort of insurmountable entity that forces them to reexamine themselves and their lives.>>585572030I agree, 8 is the first entry to lean into the player character being a symbolic existence, even doing the whole propaganda angle with it which I thought was great. You could adapt that concept and cut out the Ace of Aces entirely, having the squadron themselves being the propaganda piece, and their success (or lack thereof) wouldn't be in their battleflied exploite, but rather how effective they are in raising morale and possibly intimidating the enemy. As we saw in AC8 tho, that strategy promptly fails, and it took Ray's godlike skills to actualize the Wings of Theve as a source of hope.
>>585572387land battleship : battleship :: this little goober thing : patrol boat?
>>585573751Gimme that Nugget.
>>585573976He's trying his best.
>>585574105Is AC merch even a thing? I do neee a nuggie
>>585574650Not for filthy gaijin
>>585573710I've already started my Fighter only run, so I suppose I'll have to go EW + No Damage then Multirole + Gun Only. I have experience with the F-4E + MGP from Online, but that's a Lv20 F-4E so the handling is actually decent compared to the campaign version.>2x MSL + 2X LASM knocks out a targetting blimpDid you dumbfire the LASMs, or do LASMs now work on PW rules and can lock onto non-naval ships?
This talk about using Cold War whacky prototypes makes me wonder if Barnes Wallis would be a Belkan in Strangereal or far too batshit insane even for them?
203 remember that number
>>585573503My headcanon is that online is set after the end of the campaign and the Sotoan landships caused a paradigm shift to tank design resulting in superheavy vehicles becoming more common
These digits. Another number.
>>585574721Shame. Is AC even popular in Japan? I know it has a following, but no way is it not really niche, let alone bigger than overseas following.
>>585575537They put sales by region on the AC6 site a little after release. So these are incredibly out of date, but they're still something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3JfHrEV78o
>>585574731For EW + No Damage be wary of Land Battleship 2, there's a lot of AA and targeting can end up picking many of the other targets before it selects a Heat Vent. If you run out of XSDBs you might have luck flying far away and mashing target switch until it picks what you want before closing back in to firing range. Rocky Island 2 can also be a bit tricky with all the AA guns and SAMs regularly spawning in.For Multirole + Guns make liberal use of your unlocked planes and orders. My biggest struggles on that run was getting enough time on target or getting my time to kill down. F-4 struggles getting its guns pointed the right way while at speed so that'll make the Ladon tough if you choose it for that mission or don't give Joker plenty of missiles. Mission 21 might give you trouble depending on the difficulty because none of the targets give much score so you'll need to down a lot of them, and the higher the difficulty the higher the score requirement.>Did you dumbfire the LASMs, or do LASMs now work on PW rules and can lock onto non-naval ships?Dumbfire, got in pretty close so they wouldn't miss. Intruder has limited Arms slots but it'll carry enough LASMs to use against all the blimps if you don't bring any other SpW. It only gets A2G SpW, anyway.
>>585575883>Sales Volume RatioDomestic (Japan): 31.7% North America: 43.9% Europe: 23.8% Asia: 0.6% As I'd thought, the overseas market accounts for %68.3 of AC's, and that was back in 2007, I'm sure it's much higher now, like %82+.Also wow 6 sold like ass, I'm surprised they bothered reviving the series.
>>585576445Making AC6 xbox exclusive was such a retarded decision
>>585576445Didn't AC8 break the series' record for fastest game to hit a million copies sold? Makes the Japanese exclusive editions extra stupid if overseas sales are this high.
>>585576736>>585576596It's Bamco, you'd be hardpressed to find a more retarded big-name Japanese publisher. I wonder what AC8's sales are like now, 'cause yeah it did hit a milly in its first week.
>>585576445It sold a little more after the stats were posted. But yeah it sold pretty shit. And that was after Zero sold pretty shit, and before AH which sold a little better but still pretty shit, and which also got a reputation as an awful game. Not great times.At least the stupid free to play incredibly exploitive cash grab asset flip did well!
>>585577058Did it? Didn't Infinity go kaput within like a year?
>>585576596>>585576897Microsoft presumably paid them a good amount in return for that.
>>585577148It lasted nearly four years. And the reason it got shut down was actually because it did well enough that they got the greenlight for 7 so they started working on that instead.Thanks for funding 7, ACI whales.
>>585577332Didn't help keeping AC alive that's for sure. Some shit is worth more than immediate profit.
>>585577642Oh damn. I'm a 7bab, so thank you all for your service.
>>585577717Well, yeah. Bamco apparently came to the same conclusion since AH was multiplat. And all their other games stopped being 360 exclusive too. Idolmaster and so on.
>>585576396I'm guessing the lack of MGP hurts too much to swap to EW+Guns and Multirole+NoDmg. Rafale could cheese No Damage easily in most missions thanks to LAAM and LACM, but that doesn't help you against the Ladons and Topkek.
>>585577959NTA but I've been trying to come up with a Ladon cheese strat. My idea is to catch them at the northrast corner of the map right as they enter, and I'd try to position right behind them with an Immelmann Turn and dump their ass with 6AAs, QAAMs, and guns. I haven't practiced it much, but the problem seems to be that they actually gain speed as soon as they cross the map border, which makes it really tricky to catch their tails in one maneuver.
>>585573751Know you were talking about a movie but Pixy as a character feels like someone that is almost a no brainer to return in a future AC game. Quite possibly as a player mentor character.
>>585578625We do need more returning characters in general, so far it's been just Kei cameos, and poor Harling doesn't even get a line of dialogue (?) before he caught a missile to his neck.
>>585577865ACI had regular tournaments lasting a week or two where you'd get points every time you played. After the event ended they'd add up the points and give nicknames/emblems/special planes to the people who placed high enough. So it basically just came down to who played the most, except the fuel system meant you had to buy fuel to keep playing (or save up free fuel very slowly over like a year).Some of the events had boring rewards or a lot of different planes so you could still get something good even if you didn't play much, but others had things like protag planes for only the top 200. When it was a popular plane then some whales seriously ended up spending thousands of dollars on fuel each. It was ridiculous.
>>585578625>>585578778I am worried that the lead up to AC3 will result in past characters appearing as dead copies or AI recreations. You could unironically end up with Human Pixy vs Sublimated Pixy vs AI Pixy (created from his Morgan's flight data) if the situation gets up fucked up enough.
>>585552904>muh star warsFuck off. I let them drop licensing so they can spend money on making the game better, not spend money on other licensing.
>>585548491
Did Rio Baja radicalize Baxter or was he always like that?
>>585579976>oops! All Pixys!
>>585553865Lack of back paddles/buttons on controllers killed it.Space games are impossible to play effectively without them and nobody is going to buy a new expensive controller to play a dead game.
>>585580117
>>585578778I am honestly surprised they haven't done a Fast and the Furious where everyone you bear over the games end up joining the "family" leading to final showdown with corpos and Nemo.>>585579357>AC9 World Without Borders>It features nothing but Pixys including clones of him as well cause of that weird Nord country that is into human cloning
>>585580348>Tewy on the performance of her Shadows
>>585580652>that weird Nord country that is into human cloningThat was ONE time!!
>>585580732Shadows and most of Sotoa really are simps for Tewy and she's really nothing special.
>>585580901The Sotoan Air Force's entire culture was built by and around an aristocractic LARPer who was just repeating shit she heard but misunderstood from the one (1) actual nomad she ever had a conversation with.
>>585580901Is it fair to say she's nothing special when she's up against (You)? None of the AC protags are fucking human, they're extensions of an outer-dimensional eldritch god (also (You)).
>>585569817Shadow 22 in his AH helicopter arc
>>585556760Rather have lower detail models that don't turn into mush the moment you pan the camera desu.
>>585581161Tewy is still a skilled pilot, but she gets carried by the X-40. She would've been Assault Record fodder for Rex or even Blaze if Tasha's mom didn't get in first.
What even was AWWNB's endgame? Launch the V2, presumably kill a lot of civilians, and then...what? Somehow that makes everyone go "alright, you make a good point, we're all erasing our national borders and embracing the new global anarchy eden now" or something?
>>585581638I got the impression AWWNB was a faction of Belka trying to immediately get salty runback for the Belkan War, except they tricked a bunch of depressed/shellshocked former enemies into joining them.
>>585557476Rank the titles of ace combat games.>S tierThe Unsung War>A tierSkies of Deception, Shattered Skies, Assault Horizon, Infinity, Skies Unknown>B tierFires of Liberation, Skies of Incursion>C TierThe Belkan War, Joint Assault, Wings of Theve
>>585581856I actually prefer Distant Thunder to Shattered Skies. Obviously The Unsung War is way batter than Squadron Leader.
I've only played the PS2 trilogy, do I need to play 7 before 8?
>>585581638Wipe out all advanced civilisation and start over from "Zero". Can't have complex institutions like nation states if the tech level drops to the stone age.
>>585582054No more than you needed to play 2 to enjoy 4.
>>585581424I disagree, Tasha makes note that Tewy can take insane G's in her maneuvers where she comments "is she even human?!" verbatim. She also noted that Tewy uses aerobatic maneuvers that should be outright impossible to apply in combat, she even tries to copy her moves in Mission 30. That's not mentioning her predicting Ray's own moves. Tewy's is Sotoa's equivalent of Mihaly, a Legendary Ace in her own right, and so is Tasha's mom. (You) are better than them, but they're better than everyone else, they've even produced Aces themselves, Mihaly trained Yellow 13 and Tewy trained Shadow 22.
>>585557476Ace Combat 8: Moonlight Shadows
>>585581856move Skies of Deception up to S-tier
>>585582854Mike Oldfield copyright says no.
>>585563045You can just missle the planes in DFM segments. And they don't stress anything, they just break the flow of the game.
>>585583057My Cold Field can tongue my peehole lol
where the fuck are the Pulse Lasers in this game?
>>585583220Too OP in 7 so I removed them
>>585565593Path of Exile 2 can suck the life out of you, coming soon in december.
>>585583220>>585583305At this rate they'll probably come back via a DLC aircraft tied to one of the upcoming Ace Passes. Wasn't there an ADF-11 -Trigger- in the data leak?
>>585579357Milhay would accept sublimation without question if you told him it meant flying forever with no limitations
ADF-11 and X-40 both look badGame and Falken look good, simple as
>>585579240God just put in an event for a protag plane already Project Aces, I want to go to the M I N E S (but also plz no top 200 only or some bullshit thx)
>>585583941Game more like LameWyvern better
>>585583941game looks dumb with the wingtips pointed down
>>585581161I'd rate Kate being able to take her on honestly based on the AI performance in game. Not even kidding Kate will take on Shadows easily in just an F-18C and she was skilled enough to hold a whole squadron of them off with just guns. Starting to think it would have been interesting if every squadron member had their own rival in game they had to deal with>>585582476NTA but I still think that is down to her being carried by the X-40.>>585583220They show up on the Ladons and that's about it.
>>585584304No
>>585583220FCU are poorfags
>>585584304You shut your slutty mouth, No Fame without Game.
the FA-36 Game is the best plane in the gamecan easily work as a multirole
>>585581424>carried by the X-40Considering how shit X-40 is, I think she was being held back by it. Enso Order probably didn't want her to operate at her peak.
>>585584653What does it even do better than the Felon?
>>585584383Fuck no, you literally watch Kate get splashed by some bumfuck nobody pilot in Mission 24 right in front of you, she's basically a survivor and nothing more, even Tasha and Coster are better than her.
>>585582476>>585584383Yeah, Tewy could probably pull off Topkek or Mihaly level moves in her Su-47 (assuming she wasn't crippled and/or had tech to compensate for that), but she's not tearing through your allies including Baxter without the X-40's bullshit weapons.And of course the X-40's weapons suck when you unlock the playable version, and you're better off going back to your Raptor/Felon/Rafale.
>>585582073>Wipe out all advanced civilisationWith one missile containing a handful of warheads? Gonna take more than that to bring the whole planet to its knees and with a plan like this it's all or nothing, you reset everything or you lose because whoever's left standing will come and fuck your shit up.
>>585584740better turning, speed and for air-to-ground
>>585583941Falken is just ugly and the AC3 Game looks better
>>585584780Kate was kind of giving the vibe of being passively suicidal at the time.
>>585579357Sublimation is extremely rare so that seems unlikely. Yoko managed it once and then General Resource killed her and blew up her facility because they didn't like it. Ouroboros can do it but it'd be pretty weird if every character suddenly came back to join them. That's unlikely in the same way it's unlikely they'd bring back the human versions of previous characters to be enemies. They don't do that.Also human Pixy and sublimated Pixy would think exactly the same way so they'd have no reason to fight. Not sure what Pixy would want out of life in 2040 but whatever it is both versions of him would agree on it.
>>585584780The Kate AI is definitely better than Tasha and Coster's AI. She seems to get a lot of kills while Tasha and Coster will just bumble around even after you've given them commands and a target.
FCU Ground Forces display a green flare to Joker Flight after recapturing Theve HQ from the Sotoan Army, 2029 during Operation Gut Shot.
>>585583941Game looks horrible, XFA-27, Falken, Wyvern all look better even if the Falken makes literally no aerodynamic sense
>>585584931Your location has been marked for a spear strike
>>585584893>better turningno>speedIt does have a 50kph top speed advantage in the campaign but the Felon has better accel>air to grounddebatable. SOD Is good but it's more of a commitment than LACM. I feel like if a mission has enough ground target density to make SOD good you might as well take something with real bombs. And if it has a lot of spread out target pockets then LACM is obviously far better.
>>585585008Sublimation is so fucking overrated honestly. I think the corpos were entirely right to shut that shit down.
>>585585039Watsonian vs. Doylist view. She's great in-game (if that's even true desu), but in-story she's a middling pilot.
>>585584740SASM hard counters Flares22, and can oneshot the bombers earlier in that mission.HPAA is useful against tanky targets like the Ladon engines and again bombers.SOD outright deletes Fatsia if you line up your shots correctly.Felon is still a good NG+ workhorse with QAAM/HCAA and LACM, but the FA-36 really shines during the endgame.>>585584678Tewy's X40 has working shield drones and actual burst fire on the railgun. Enso are ripping off Rex in comparison, and it doesn't help that the FCU are such massive poorfags that their ace pilot can't get his hands on the same tech as a literal Osean convict.
>>585585063Weird, i remember Joker flight murdering children at that moment.
>>585584780Anon that cutscene made zero fucking sense and you know it. Whole point we witness her character absolutely fucking shit up until that point both from what you witness in game and the other missions she is sent on. Hence why its fair to assume she would in fact take on Tewy if the retard moment wasn't forced in.
>>585584816>Raptor/Felon/RafaleThose were literally my choice planes, why is everything else so ASS? :((
>>585571423Sounds horrible. I hope someone from PA reads this, finds you and kills you.
>>585584740If it's campaign then HPAA is useful for tough enemies and SOD counts as a bomb so it has much better parts than LACM even if it has worse base stats.If it's online then it gets the standard missile buff ability and is slightly more responsive, even if it pitches/rolls/yaws more slowly once Su-57 gets going.It also gets SASM instead of QAAM which you might like. Especially online since QAAM gets a damage nerf there compared to campaign (why?).It also has slightly better stealth except I don't think anyone really cares about that.
Why won't they bring Fenrir back? Imagine blowing up all of Fatsia in one shot with its nuke missile.
>>585585435Tbf she wasn't capable of going all out with the X-40 anyway. The neural interface already maxed out long before she could even start going at it seriously. It would probably have been far more practical just to forgo the railgun drone system entirely and slap on a mix of QAAMs/SASMs instead.
>This ain't Sotoan grasslands, This ain't The Promised Land.>Carmille Tewy, welcome to hell,MOTHERFUCKER AAAAAAAHHHH!!!
>>585585520When did we watch her fuck shit up? She almost her whole squadron, didn't two Queens get killed under her watch by Shadows? Didn't Topkek shoot one of them down, then kill him while parachuting? That doesn't sound like a Tewy-level pilot to me, considering the latter would fuck up Topkek and his squad by his own admission
>>585568384Look up how the engines of the arsenal bird work
testing
>>585557476A mistranslation I saw not long after the games announcment called it "AC8: Stolen Wings" and I thought that was way cooler.
>Celaeno, a nuclear powered aircraft>We shoot missles to its core and drop it into the waterWould've been kino of it caused a nuclear explosion in the air, but I guess that'd cause it to have too much impact on the story which they were already trying to wrap up at that point.
>>585585435>Felon is still a good NG+ workhorse It's a good NG workhorse if you take this route through the aircraft tree.My save got nuked and I had to replay the campaign with nothing unlocked but I already knew what I wanted so this was very efficient.After you get the Felon you can go back and buy the Tomcat just to unlock the SPW payload part and the Foxhound to get SPW speed and bomb AoE parts. Then just go up and down the tree picking up the few parts you still want.
>>585586241>Instead of carrying internal fuel or a traditional generator, the Arsenal Bird receives wireless power beamed via microwaves from the International Space Elevator (the Lighthouse) to a dorsal rectenna disc.That's stupid even for ace combatWireless power delivery on that scale? nah
>>585586667The Arsenal Birds are meant to protect the elevator to begin with. That solution works just fine for that purpose.
>>585568384>western sci-fi aircraft design>blocky chunky of greebles with the drag coefficient of an F-150>japanese sci-fi aircraft design>all negative space and complex mechanisms, leaving 3 teaspoons of space available for fuel
>>585586812>sci fi is when canardsWhy are all sci fi plane designers like this?
>>585586812>with the drag coefficient of an F-150applies to that thing you posted too
>>585586116So in game she'll be shooting down Shadows in White Valley and Theev before you can which actually is quite annoying when trying to clear assault records, she also shot down the aces in Expo and Shadows at Cima which fucked up an ace run for me. When she is sent off on other assignments it is mentioned she is completing them much faster than Joker flight. When you are off facing the Podarges she is holding off Shadows with nothing but guns. The Topkek ambush btw was her flight getting swarmed where they basically had zero rest and refit so were flying aircraft that were already battered from the previous battle and low on ammunition with the AI being scripted to die, if you let them fight it out naturally it'll be very different.
>>585586658To be honest, I forgot that I had a Felon for a good chunk of my first playthrough, because I took a path similar to yours (except I bought the F-14D and F/A-18F). Being able to move between progression lines in 8's aircraft tree makes it a big improvement over 7's version.
>>585586667It's also crazy because they patrol 1200 km away from the elevator. It magically beams power 750 miles to them.
>>585587089Yeah, it is a big improvement and lets you pick up the parts and planes you want a bit more freely than having to super commit to a single branch.But it still does have branches and makes you think about your unlocks in terms of which paths they open and not just what they do.I went for this specific route because the Mirage with UGBs is an absolute menace in those earlier missions and you only really need the Rafale for M10(carrier mission) so it can be slightly delayed to pick up parts(the bomb payload+ part giving you 16 UGBs is absolutely insane and is the reason you buy the Fishbed).
>>585586921You can have canards, flying wing, or forward sweep. Having none of these is not futuristic
>>585586804Beaming enough power to make such colossal machines fly AND power their magic force fields and high power guns and whatnot over hundreds of miles seems too much for that stage in the timeline
>>585585970sorry PSPchud, we need to make way for Markov's SU-57 and Trinity instead
>>585586116>>585587048I could be getting things mixed up, but before Cope dies wasn't Queen flight pulling double duty covering for themselves and Joker flight? Cope and Tasha, while both extremely evasive fliers, weren't shooting back, leaving Baxter/Coster/Queens to pitch in more firepower.
>>585585063>Cancelling an airstrike on friendly troops> << *Disappointed Immortal Noises* >>
>>585587491>hey what if we give our pilot absolutely no visibility outside the cockpit at all
>>585587721Yeah that is confirmed Queen flight and Kate in particular was carrying everyone. It's kind of why I think Cope is a piece of shit as he mentioned there were several other squadrons before the player came who died.
>>585587491you can tell whoever came up with that doesn't have the faintest idea about anything even vaguely related to aviation or flight and they were tasked to just draw something cool
>>585587930is there any particular reason he never shot anyone? He said he got a score to settle (with Tewy?) but I don't see him settling shit if he runs from Topcuck 24/7.
>>585588204It is never really explained but strongly hinted at that its because he's a Sotoan
>>585587491>>585588049Using a camel as design inspiration for an aircraft is certainly a choice someone made.>>585587442Unfortunately I didn't pick up on how good UGBs are until I finished the campaign and started playing Online. Sure it handles like a brick until you put some levels into it, but the F-4E has a really good weapon loadout.
>>585587626Doesn't really seem that much more ridiculous than whatever it would take to power Stonehenge and all the supporting infrastructure a whole 20 years earlier.
>>585587312The distance is also really funny because the Arsenal Bird in AC7 mission 4 still manages to get to the space elevator in like five minutes once you start shooting. Fucker must be flying at mach 10 or something.
>AC5 is easily my least favourite of the ps2 trilogy, maybe on par with 6 at best>ACES is still by far and away my favourite mission of the entire seriesam I weird
>>585588335so what is his plan? Outrun every Sotoan until his crippled ex somehow got up and fly again and then kill her? Dude is not making any sense.
>>585587048>>585587721Niggas, can you PLEASE stop and think? If Kate, Kate Evans of ALL people was a Tewy-level Legendary Ace, WHY would the FCU need to cook up an elaborate propaganda scheme using Cope, who never shot down a single fucking pilot? Why would D.D. need to massively play up the Wings of Theve? Why wouldn't they just chuck Kate in their best fucking plane and sic her on Sotoa like a wild dog? For what reason? Lemme guess: sexism? Please. No. Kate is not an Ace, far from it, let alone a legendary ace. She's a maybe veteran pilot and that's it, and veterans don't even necessarily make Elite. She's just an old hand flight leader with good management skills who can keep her people alive for a while before they're beset actual squadron of Real Dawgs™. Queen Flight are Shadow fodder. If you're not there, heck if Joker Flight without you isn't there then the war would have been long lost. Idk about this whole in-game AI thing, which I don't even think is true, but in-story it's clearly a whole different deal. And she got swatted like a housefly in Mission 24 anyway. That's no Ace, let alone one like Tewy, Mihaly, or Tasha's mom.
>>585588340UGBs have always been top tier in Ace Combat, it's like the games give them too many advantages just because you have to aim them manually, which isn't even difficult.
>>585588442Most Ace Combat plots and characters fall apart the moment you spend more than two seconds thinking about them.
>>585588343The key factor is the power delivery being wirelessStonehenge would just need a lot of power delivered conventionally and that's nothing far fetched
>>585586812aerodynamics level: worse than a sopwith camel
>>585588442To be fair he somehow didn't know she was crippled before seeing her in the cutscenes leading up to M14.
>>585588335No it's the opposite. He pretty much tells you that that's not the reason, but doesn't tell the actual reason like the vaugeposter that he is.
>>585588458Anon you're assuming anything in game makes any logical sense or is based on consistent story telling.
>>585588560I mean, of all the engineering challenges ranging from actually building a fucking space elevator to making magical force fields, delivering a lot of power wirelessly probably is the least problematic part of the setting.
>>585588758And you're assuming gameplay has bearing on story, do you think your plane ACTUALLY carries 140 missiles, 30 bombs, and an infinite mag of .30 cal bullets?
>>585588498They're even better this time though. Just comparing them to AC7, they got their damage/radius/reload all buffed.
>>585588458Was anyone even arguing Kate is a Tewy-level pilot? At a minimum she's at least better than early game Coster and Tasha, until they gain experience and get their shit together, then it evens out.
>>585589178Yes! They were! Read the reply chain.
>>585589002I mean, the operations we carry out, even assuming maximum accuracy and efficiency, probably require at least triple the payload IRL planes can carry to achieve the minimum mission objectives. Only a handful of missions in the AC series could actually be completed with a technically possible payload
>>585589002>infinite mag>he played the game on lower difficultiesoh no anon...
>>585589332I just see it as a gameplay abstraction of multiple sorties. An IRL operation like the retaking of Theve would take far longer than the few minutes it got compressed into.
Have any of you buddies checked this out on the next fest? Is it worth a download?https://store.steampowered.com/app/4484890/ASTRIDER/
Welp, it's happened, we're reduced to shitflinging over which pilot waifu is betterBeen a cozy month, see ya'll when they say something about AC9, try not to kill the general for good in the meantime
>>585589002>infinite mag of .30 cal bulletsyou that on purpose you bastard
>>585586667>Playing a fantasy medieval knights game>Do you guys believe that a single dragon can produce that much fire? Where does it store the fuel? It's even stupid for a "Dragon combat game"It sounds stupid right?Just fight the fucking dragon
>>585589002>and an infinite mag of .30 cal bullets
8 needed more Princess.Need Princess pinup nose art.
>>585589605Sounds extremely ambitious on the writing side, but idk.
>>585589943.30 cal would be pretty close to the 7.7mm type 97 aircraft MGs that Japanese planes used in WW2.
>>585589774But I'm not playing a fantasy medieval knights game
>time to do online dailies>game 1: player disconnected at match start, back to lobby>game 2: connection lost at match start, crash to desktop while menu loads>game 3: connection lost at match start, crash to desktop while going back to menu>game 4: connection lost at match start, back to menu>game 5: it's an ew episodeREEEE
>>585589605Seems like a fairly 'eh' proposition-->The Earth is flat...I will wishlist and see how it comes along.
Can any /k/ommandos and/or lorefags explain to me the tactical advantage of putting yurts on your aircraft carriers? What did the sotoans mean by this?
>>585590181RETVRN TO TRADITION larp
>>585590181Is it just me or this meant to be loss?
>>585590136you're playing a fantasy modern knights game
>>585589575I like the idea of a simcade flying game where you realistic-ish payloads, but also have smallish airborne carriers circling the combat zone that can quickly rearm and refuel you without needing to fly back to base
>>585590575That's basically what old school space sims did.Payloads were only slightly higher than modern jets but you had a support ship flying around that you could call in and ask for a rearm.
>>585590181That's where they keep the whores
>>585590181Unless there's also grazing animals that aren't being rendered, they're not even using the space well. Larpers of the highest order.
>>585591110Nomads generally didn’t keep their livestock in their domiciles friend.
>Be European>Get constantly matched with laggy chinks or Japs>Planes stutter all over the screen making gun kills nigh impossibleWhy bamco
>>585591316I haven't had any crashes in Online, but it's amazing how shit the netcode feels compared to 7's MP.
>>585591267They're not domiciles, they're fuck tents
>>585590119>>585590119Playing IL-2 made me wonder how the British accomplished anything with 303s in the Battle of Britain. Absolutely worthless peashooters that basically just transfer weight from your plane to the enemies. How anyone thought 30 cal was insufficient for hunting african big game, but good enough for hunting huge metal bombers, is beyond me
>>585591686>>585591686It's not a true steppe nomad larp without insane amounts of rape, I suppose.
>>585592276Yeah, most of the stories you get about INVINCIBLE TOUGH AMERICAN PLANES VS FLIMSY BUT NIMBLE JAPANESE ZERO are more about the American .50 cals being able to do shit and the Japanese 7.7mm being worthless.The zero did also have 20mm cannons but it carried few rounds and it was hard to hit anything with it because it would unsettle the plane with the recoil. That said playing WW2 sims or simcades, peppering the enemy with the worthless peashooter and then watching it burst into flames when you get close and unleash that 20mm feels amazing. >I had full confidence in my ability to destroy the Grumman and decided to finish off the enemy fighter with only my 7.7 mm machine guns. I turned the 20mm cannon switch to the 'off' position, and closed in. For some strange reason, even after I had poured about five or six hundred rounds of ammunition directly into the Grumman, the airplane did not fall, but kept on flying! I thought this very odd—it had never happened before—and closed the distance between the two airplanes until I could almost reach out and touch the Grumman. To my surprise, the Grumman's rudder and tail were torn to shreds, looking like an old torn piece of rag. With his plane in such condition, no wonder the pilot was unable to continue fighting!
>>585592276>wonder how the British accomplished anything with 303sBy having 10 of them in each plane
>>585593067The American 4/6 x .50 cal setup was far superior and could actually do shit.The German/Japanese 20mm cannons would absolutely rip things to shreds but they were a bit harder to use. And the Germans updated their MGs to 13mm(roughly .50 cal) later in the war because the 7.92mm was a peashooter that couldn't shoot down a seagull.
>>585593067Even four 50 cals on the Wildcat feel more lethal than twelve 30 cals on the Hurricane Mk II
BRRRRRT
>>585593359OkayThe british 303s sent hitler back to germany.>but bigger boolit makes more kill!Yeah. The british 303s still sent hitler back to germany.
>>585593830I got 3 MGP su25s (including myself) on a Chandelier run today, the map was fucking EMPTY by the end.
>>585593951It still fucking sucks though. And the Germans were also using worthless 7.92mm peashooters in the Battle of Britain.So both sides were using worthless guns and the British had more of them so they won.
>>585594132So that answers your question about how the British accomplished anything with them, good job.
>>585594132>Why didn't both sides just have infinite resources and logistical capability to build an infinite amount of the most theoretically best possible aircraft. What do you mean there are considerations other than how big the gun I can put on the plane are?
>>585594132Cowling mounted guns are more valuable than wing mounted ones, and their targets were fighters that could still be set on fire by a good burst on their engines.
Did I just stumble into a fucking War Thunder thread? Do I need to get out the empty egg carton?
spitfire more likespit on it because it's a joke
>>585594394The later 13mm guns for the germans and .50 cals for the British required no serious redesign, just putting in a bigger gun.The main reason they didn't do it earlier is that they were convinced the .303 was enough because they were still stuck in WW1 thinking(light craft turn fast and aircraft go down to a light breeze). The US was already using 50 cals in the late 30s and they were nowhere near full total war production then.Putting in bigger guns really wasn't a logistical issue.
>>585594721There is a high probability that there are anons in this thread who would be into plane girls spitting on them, just saying.
bongs get mad if you make fun of their little prop planes because it's the last time their air force were ever relevant
>>585581638Most of these extremist movements have intricate philosophical bases but undercooked plans, and AWWNB is even worse because it also attracted Belkan hardliners that just wanted revenge (and almost certainly received covert support from whatever remained of Belka's government and military), which would decrease ideological cohesion (and just turn it into a Belkan deniable proxy). The really ideologically-driven extremists at the top probably thought>nuke the seats of power of the superpowers>assume this will bring them to their knees, and buy us enough time and leverage to exploit the chaos>also assume everyone will see the light of our ideology, and enforce it on everyone who won't relentwhich is a weird mashup of things I've heard from both marxists and futurists.The rank and file being what >>585581832 says also doesn't help.
>>585594856Only if it’s oil from a big air cooled radial
>>585591257Theres a bigger, empty field in the center of the megafloat under the pyramid presumably for grazing animals. But following patterns of how Sotoa usually does things, its probably reserved for the generals to play polo with or some other bs
Griffon Spitfires are the most beautiful machines ever to take flight, though
>>585595027Hey, the BTFO'd the Argies back in the 80s, which was very based. They're still buttmad about it. It's also the only good thing Thatcher ever did.
Say something about the EE Lightning
>>585595250Made for DP
>>585595196>BTFO'd the Argiesthat's like bragging you beat a kid in a wheelchair in a dunking contest
>>585594394this is /aceg/ of course we think like this
>>585595323If the kid in a wheelchair is an annoying fuck that's asking for it, yeah.Not really a demonstration of power but a great service for the world.
Zero ending the Belkan War midgame and then switching to a new story with the terrorists was a mistake and resulted in a rushed story with no pace, no build up to anything and no weightEither make the whole campaign be only about the war, or only about AWWNB
>>585595250You used to be able to buy one and they made good garden ornaments.
>>585595323It’s not that they beat the Argies.It’s that they beat them so hard they’re still seething about it today.
>>585584846it wouldn't destroy everything but one V2 would be enough to nuke half of the cities in osea and yuktobania if i remember AC5 right, certainly enough to cause the superpowers to collapse instantly
>>585595506>Ace game dropping the central plot and rushing to another story mid game was a mistakePretty much par for the course.
>>585595250I can'tMost ugly planes tend to have one angle where they look sorta ok, this one is just a complete abomination no matter how you look at itI guess it was very fast at least
they leaked the Ace Pass stuff?
>>585595305>thrust provoking image>irrelevant, fuel wasting question
>>585592276What if you hunt the elephant with a GPMG tho
Alright, take you bets on what a potential dlc storyline would be about 1: Following Rex as a "normal" FCU pilot during the first 3 months of the war2: Purple Magic dlc playing as their unknown guitarist 3: Soat-Yuke war about Tasha's mom and Moon 114: add you own idea ("they wont make a story dlc and just focus on AC Online while the main team works on AC:9" is disqualified cause it makes for boring discussion even if its decently likely)
>>585596394The Adventures of Rex and His Wife Little Bee Fire-Bombing Sotoa Post-War
>>585596394dlc of no consequence to the plot ending in a final mission that is a callback to both Tunnel Vision and Sole Survivor
>>585596394I don't know what it'll be or how it'll happen, but I would bet that Neucom will be introduced in it.
>>585596394Whatever the fuck happened to that big blob in the middle of the continent. Probably including a mission to nuke some podarges
>>585596394You fight General Resources to prevent a scheme that will allow them to dissolve all borders and properly take over the world. At the end, when you beat the final boss, you get a message saying "EXITING ELECTROSPHERE" and the GR employee unplugs you for the simulation, and thanks you for helping them prepare counter-strategies against their enemies.
>>585596394Kate and Rex honeymoon being interrupted by discovering a hidden "Enso" facility containing a superweapon requiring a tunnel run to destroy it.
>>585597301The superweapon is a metaphor for infertility
https://youtu.be/iRD_UmFF5sU?si=hDJFUUMUOO0QTS9a
>Tewy's body was never found>she likely got smeared across a road or building in theve
>>585597397Rafalechads, is it our turn to eat?
>>585597479Good.
>>585597397A finished project with Jose involved? Impossible!
>>585597389> << Rex, have you thought about adoption? >>
>>585597397>interactive storynah thanks pass
>>585597397>inb4 it features loli pilots
>>585597642Would be hilarious if Rex were to adopt a random Sotoan child only for it to be an offspring of Cope and Tewy.
>>585597301The RUN is Rex's PENIS and the TUNNEL is Kate's VAGINA and the SUPERWEAPON is her EGGS and the MISSILES are SPERM send post
>>585582406Thanks, it looks like it even works on Linux so I can see how much has changed since 0.
>>585597642> =>NO
>>585597864Could be worse>Adopt a random child>Turns out they're Belkan
>>585598004> << Well too bad, I'm not talking no for an answer. You get some babies in me or I'm adopting Coster and Tasha! >>
>>585597397>Interactive storyWhat the fuck, man
>>585598027We're due for a Belka redemption arc, let the kid grow up to be a hero
Why does this game have such blatant Euro/Russian bias?All the best planes both in the campaign and online are either sukhois or eurodeltas.
Done with the whole campaign medal other than the multirole one, F18E is the canon craft right? Can I beat Toprak on ace with its weapons? What parts do I use?
>>585598297The Strike Eagle, Super Tomcat and Growler are all top tier.
>jap on twitter says the game needs a good wiki>some other jap links him the DB on the OP>UMMM THIS HAS DATAMINED STATS ON IT, IS IT REALLY OK????I cannot comprehend an entire nation being so mentally broken about the dumbest, most pointless shit like this
>>585598297The F-18E is a very good campaign plane.
>>585598558gigamogged by SU34, Migger and EA36 respectively?
>>585598297F-15C
>>585598665You have no idea how much worse it used to be, but it is also a reason fanart took off so hard over there as everyone was fucking mortified about posting/using official art.
>>585598909ultimate definition of meh
The mono-EW run might be the most boring shit I've done in one of these games
>>585598297Eurodeltas have never been given bias
>>585598236>My name is Pixie daughter of Kate>I was born a Belkan but raised a Usean>Evil corporations want to tear the world apart and remake it in their image>Their coffin equipped aircraft give them an edge and make them appear unstoppable to the average pilot>Using the withcraft of my homeland I seek to do battle with them and turn the tide>Borders is all!Pilot being a Belkan and everyone remarking on it but them being the one to save the world would be pretty sick ngl
>>585598558>Strike Eaglestriclty worse than the Fullback. Oh but emergency sorties! Then it's strictly worse than the frogfoot. >Super TomcatStrictly worse than the Mig-31 and the Typhoon as your LAAMboat option>GrowlerUhh, yeah, OK. Fair enough. EA-36 is arguably better but that's fictional and uses the American MG anyway. So yeah, the US has 1(one) truly top tier plane. >>585598670Eh, it's okay. What does it do better than the Rafale though? And you can unlock both at the same time. SOD is pretty good but LACM does the same job much easier and obviously LAAMs are way better than 6AAMs or QAAMs.>>585598909It's usable online but not as good as the Felon in the "close range fighter" slot. The FA-36 also does the same SASM spam job a lot better. It's completely unremarkable in the campaign. The F-15J has some use as a high tier fighter option that can also carry UGBs, which you might want for Rocky Island day 2. But the Felon with LACMs is also really good for that mission. >>585599094What do you mean? The Rafale is the ultimate multirole in the campaign and the Typhoon is the best LAAMboat online.Also the Mirage is probably the strongest low-tier/early unlock plane because it has very good handling and UGBs.
>>585549158Is it really that hard to let us use both a plain version and one with all the original decals?
>>585599060I wish they gave us a QAAM EWAC, I want to see how stupid it is if you can consistenly spawn godly missiles during boss fights
>>585596394Kate's time with the mercs>Some insane Sotoan general blames the mercs for their loss at Rocky Island and tries to hunt them down. Kate convinces them to give her a jet and she manages to win them over.Alternatively>Tasha's dad is finally revealed to be Yuktobanian Intelligence and convinces you and her to go do some missions pertaining to events that happened in the war Tasha's mom fought in
>>585599242>Then it's strictly worse than the frogfoot.The Memefoot is only good for Chandelier (and the F-4, MiG-21, or A-10 can all solo-carry anyway) and even then it's only """good""" if your team is mentally challenged
>>585598756growler is better as an EW plane because ECM and ESM are separate
>>585599285Like a bazillion campaign versions of the skins we have could've also just been a tail decal on the same skins if they were any good.
>>585598297The problem is loadouts. US aircraft stat wise are actually massively better in most cases but their loadouts suck ass.
>>585599486We're all going to be arguing about which ace pilot variant is better in like 6 months anyway.
>>585599441and then you have no room for spw?
>>585596394Here's the DLC pitch:As Rex and Kate are coming back from making rounds in Sotoa's airspace to make sure sleeping dogs (sheep?) lie, they're suddenly splashed by an unknown assailant that radar couldn't pick up. They were able to eject over Usean waters, right off of the coast of Rocky Island. Miraculously, they survived, floating on a piecr of scrap metal from their downed recon plane.They look towards the distance, and see the horizon glowing red. The Turntable burns, and the island along with it. The stationed Usean forces were decimated, and what few stragglers there drag themselves onto lifeboats and set out in a frenzy. They find Kate and Rex over the waters by sheer chance. The stragglers contact the FCU navy, and are rescued by a vessel sent out from Fort Grays Base, esocrted by a small fleet along with The Endurance.XO fills us in on the situation: it's 0205. multiple hostile operations were carried over the maritime Usean-Sotoan border within the past 6 hours under the cover of night. A small force of advanced sstealth bomber squadrons are suspected to be the culprit. Analyzing the time, location, and sequence of attacks, King Flight is to sortie immediately and intercept the bandits en-route to their next expected target: Expo City.Somewhere, within the quiet dark of the night sky, a lone shadow hums, its cold tune lulling its passenger into a deep trance: "Neural Link established."
>>585599548and I look forward to it!
>>585599609>XSDB or 4AAMyeah i'm good
>>585599242The F-15C is the best mid tier fighter
>>585599705>Yellow 13's flanker is a BRICK>Imagine wasting GBP on Razgriz tomcat LMAO
>>585599672Objective: kill the 11 year old child with a skin condition
>Metafagging argumentsGod I wish we had an actual decent co-op mode.
>>585599875if the leaks some anon posted here a while back were true, then the RGZ Tomcat is going to be shit because it was a support ability plane
Currently doing my Ace campaign run in a mixture of the Su-57, FA-36 and F-35Got an S rank on 9/11 missions so far
>>585600016i will argue about the meta and proceed to use the f/a-18c because i hate myself and hate winning
>>585600030>Doomposting based on leaksWe're a real gacha game now.
>>585599486>US aircraft stat wise are actually massively better in most cases Yes, it's loadouts and abilities but US craft don't even have better stats. The Felon has better stats than the Raptor in SP and literally identical stats in MP(but with better abilities).Also when you take abilities into account the F-15C doesn't even outstat the Typhoon, it's slightly better at low speed and slightly worse at high speed and has a huge, massive, unrecoverable 4kph top speed advantage but at the cost of worse acceleration.So which US craft are outstatting their Euro/Russian tier equivalents?
>>585600086F-18C bro! I legit used that in warfare to dogfight Morgans and somehow win cause why the fuck not?
>>585548491Killing myself...Died during Mission 28I don't know why I feel legitimately awful when I restart from a checkpoint. Especially after all that build up.
>>585599840Eh. Arguable. Mig-31 performs a different role but I feel like it's better overall.
>Arguing about minor stat differences>When you can just bring an EW plane to win.>All EW planes are american
>7 and 8 feature large amounts of targets in straight lines alongside chain reacting fuel/ammo explosions>Napalm Bomb completely MIA in the franchiseIt's not fair!
>>585600030This leak you mean?
>>585599947>King Flight, your mission is to kill a brainwashed child
>>585600492SOD does the same job
>>585590181Extreme LARP. Fuckers put them down in orderly rows with straight roads and everything, they don't know shit. It is also very funny to me that these things were erected between two heavy runways and directly beneath a mini-Stonehenge gun.
>>585600407The EA-36 is the best EW plane and it is not American.Also if you want to go max sweatlord you bring 2 Morgans that also have ECM and can cover eachother(one TLS deletes you from afar if you ever get into a dogfight with the first one).
>>585600660>DLC has you shoot down the child>They get captured>Kate and Rex adopt them on the spot as their own>Protag setup for AC9
real buddies fly the plane they love, not the plane that's the best for the job
>>585600739>and it is not American.It's literally an X-36 realised. It is american.
>>585600278i'm just on a hornet kick right now because of my multirole run, i'll probably max it out and then switch to something elseis the high-altitude upgrade any good? the numbers i saw on the wiki aren't promising but i haven't tested it in game
>>585592276Games aren't very good at simulating actual damage. It is A LOT of dakka, but nonetheless there's a reason why the Spitfires were pretty quickly upgunned with 20mm mounts.
>>585600657I fucking hate F-16 CFTs. Kill them all
>>585600657no, there was one a bit after that that had the actual skillsif I remember right the RGZ had plane XP and zoll gain boosts as abilities
>>585600910So out of the 4 roles on your team 1 is likely to be covered by a fictional design based on an American plane that was never actually made.The other 3 will be Russian or European.
>>585600869What if I'm NOT a buddy? >:(
>>585597397Isn't this shit just a VN or some similar garbage?
>>585601035The other 3 don't matter if your team doesn't bring american. You're going to lose.
>>585601118to the ovens with you
>>585600657110 dollars of non-cosmetic dlc btw possibly more
>>585600940I find in practice with the F-18C at least the way I fly it the high altitude ability isn't that useful cause normally I'm ground pounding. Only if you fully commit to dogfighting in the clouds does it seem to pay off.
>>585600380The MiG-31 has worse maneuverability, less top speed and acceleration. It might have QAAM but still gets outdone by SASM in knife fights, especially coming from something more maneuverable than It.
>>585600869My favorite planes (F-18C / M2000) do not have my favorite weapon (SAAM) despite the fact that they should (AIM7M / S530D) >:(
>>585590136You're literally plying a fantasy game. You jet is your flaming sword and the megaweapon in front you is the dragon
>>585601167You do not need a dedicated EW craft, 2 Morgans can cycle ECM forever. ESM is useful but not enough to give up a full Morgan for it.
what are these symbols under most planes in AC0?
>>585601558Killscore. If it exceeds 765 it turns into Pacman eating dots.
>>585601558Kill marks
>>585600716I don't CARE I WANT to firebomb people!
- Aircraft and SPW/parts tree should be separate - Instead of unlocking SPWs in the tree you unlock the variants (no more buying 20 F18 and 30 flankers) - all spws allowed on all planes unless it doesn't make sense (ugbs on f22 or smth), allow equipping what it could realistically carry irl
>>585601290>4AAM on bothThey do it on purpose to make me specifically suffer. Maybe one day we'll see an F/A-18A and a Mirage 2000C instead of a -5
>>585601009>fat fuck 1
>>585600940>>585601260I think one guy tested it and it seems like the ability triggers as soon as 1000 altitude
>>585600940High altitude isn't very high. Even if ground pounding you can easily climb this high in just a few seconds and start getting your maximum benefitI haven't tested the low altitude maneuverability ability but I assume it's just the inverse. If so I would never take it
>>585601857The AR-15 of planes (derogatory)
And thats it for today, I guess I'll leave Mission 28 for another day since I think its gonna be an extremely huge fight.Man, those LACMs are not that good compared to UGBs, SODs or SFFSs, I kind of feel a bit scammed getting the F-35. Mission 25 sure is a bit stressful thanks to having to juggle between so many targets whereas you dont have to escort anything in 27...i just messed up in the tunnel run
>>585600829>AC9 will have the first protag who isn't a player stand-in
>A-6E loses 3 points of air to ground damage scaling as it levels up according to the databaseNani the FUCK?
>>585601329>ESM is useful but not enough to give up a full Morgan for it.>Deletes all npc waves in seconds>Crashes to clear stars>Focuses your ESMlet team rest of the matchHaha yeah
>>585581856>assault horizon above fires of liberationYou're insane
>>585601797Please explain to me how I can sell the same plane with SPWs swapped around if we allow this?
>>585602143Doesn't really matter because basically all your abilities increase your ground damage into complete overkill
>>585602143Now check its flight model
>>585602176>deleted by TLS>respawn>deleted by TLS againEven at zero stars you're giving a lot of points away to the 3 star Morgans. And it's not like you'll ever be able to kill them with guns in a craft that they easily out-turn(and can PSM chain if they need to).
>>585602143there's some weird shit online like thatI know there are planes that lose SPW capacity when they reach max level for whatever reason too
>>585602143>3 points of air to ground damage scalingThat's not a thing anon
>>585601958that's pretty low then. i'm not so much worried about the yaw, more the pitch, but i guess i'll figure it out once i start grinding out titles
>>585602234Dude has Unsung War as S-tier , he's beyond insane
>>585602472I was just testing out the altitude part of the ability, not necessarily the % increase to maneuverability. Yawing a flat 360 was the most consistent way to do that so I don't accidentally fuck up roll by pitching a little, or pitch by rolling a little
>>585602357You can just not be where they are, since they have to stick together to layer ECM. Otherwise you just instagib them with ESM.
>>585602583Unsung War is an aura name tho
>>585602397Attackers really shouldn't get 85% damage to other players.
>>585602343We can sell plans?
>>585602668>instagib them with ESMNo you do not. They outrange you. And it's not easy to hit them even with ESM meanwhile TLS is just point and click.Also how exactly are you going to stop them from just killing your attacker on respawn and securing a massive points lead?Oh you'll go somewhere else and do what? Farm air targets for pity points until they run out? Watch their attacker be completely undisturbed and rack up 180k points because you cannot ever approach the Morgan's 6km sphere of death?
>>585602397So EW aircraft are just better multiroles, I see.
>>585602682>>585602583I'm replaying Zero right now after i finished 6 - 5 - 8 again and 5 is still peak of peaks
Almost like Ace Combat has never been good as a PvP game or something
>People say Shadow 22 is mainly more annoying if your wingmen dont stop taking potshots at himHuh
>>5856030825 was the best AC until 8 came along. For me it's 8>5>X>the rest
>>585603193He shits infinite flares (for now) so yeah having your wingmen fire more missiles at him sucks
>>585602983>morgans play perfectly and if you go within 6km of them they kill youIf my aunt had balls he'd be my uncle.
>>585603095AH was surprisingly fun for it but that wasn't really an AC game.
>>585602983Do you actually get good TLS players all the time?Because if so I'm glad I'm still too shit to be at that point, but still good enough that people know to bring an attacker and 3 air superiority into Warfare
>>585603465If you aren't mentally challenged whatever SBMM they clearly have going on will find the most cracked out full stacks for you 24/7
>>585602051>It's the only game where you can get grounded for performing an unnecessary tunnel run
>>585603429I see you've never played against a competent double Morgan comp. It's really not that difficult to instadelete people, especially with AC8 client-side hitreg. >>585603465Had like 7 games yesterday vs double Morgan comps.
>>585603543>muh SBMM boogeyman,
>>585603730>boogeymanIt's clearly in the game though. And SBMM is not the problem, the Morgan being so outrageously good is.
>It's an anon pretends there's a SBMM episodeSure buddy.
Is NG+ in general gonna be faster and easier due to availability of better parts and superplanes?
>>585603928of course
>>585603928I've found it easier so far. Not even using superplanes. Just knowing the missions and putting the right parts and picking the right special weapons basically trivialises most of the challenge.
>>585603928Don't forget your drop tanks
>>585603730Only way to explain why a good player will go straight from nuggie clubbing to being put up against known compfags all the time. The game itself clearly starts taking longer to find match too
>>585604239There are technically other explanations though SBMM would make the most sense.
>>585604239Yes. That’s absolutely the only explanation.Random matchmaking could certainly never explain it. It HAS to be that evil ESS BEE EM EM
>>585604239>only way to explainThere are plenty other ways to explain such as regions and account level or age based matchmaking. You just keep ignoring them anytime someone brings them up, even though you're the only anon in the thread that feels there's SBMM and keeps bringing it up.
I feel like "A Lifeline in the Desert" is one of the more underrated tracks from AC8it's both beautiful and energetichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFmcRO4D6cM
>/aceg/ openly admitting they're too retarded to get matched against good playerskekypow
>we're now getting COD-level matchmaking argumentswe really are mainstream
>>585604723Wouldn't call it underrated, everyone appreciates it. Especially the vocal part that makes it stand out.
>>585604723As the top comment says, it felt like a nice callback to Assault Horizon OST
Has anyone tried the fov mods out yet?
>>585604750Post win rate
>>585604723Rumbling is the better AH songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn9cag6Qrcs
Just a thought, you ALWAYS blow up the Osprey in M25 yes?
Speaking of AH, is it even worth checking out? And which version is better, since I'm pretty sure there's two.
>>585604996Post wall socket
they need to push through the ecm nerf for pvp, that shit is busted, especially when faggots will wait for their gimp to show up before engaging
>>585604872I never played Assault Horizon
>>585605114I accept your concession.
>>585605089Assault Horizon Legacy has very little to do with AH, it's actually a remake of Ace Combat 2 fitting it into the Strangereal Universe.
>>585605153The ecm nerf from the patch is fucking nothing
>>585603193Honestly, I felt the same right before I read the Pixy guy's post too, I guess we all finally came to a conclusion, the last shadow is abnormally hard to target because of your allies
>>585605370It seems to check out with the stories of how Shadow 22 can end up getting shot down first easily because your wingmen werent targeting him vs his squad sudddenly becoming very hard to shoot down
>>585605153>hey I should wait for a teammate before I dive into the enemy 1v4>that's retarded>>585605352The patch literally hasn't happened yet
>>585605089it's worth playing, it's not a GREAT experience but you can still get some AC fun out of itThe Enhanced Edition is just a straight upgrade
>>585557476Stolen Legacies would've worked.
>Only need one day to fix the Great Street Shittening>This somehow delays the patch indefinitely
>>585605329Would you say it's a decent way to experience AC2, then? Or should I play the OG instead.
>>585605598Blame consoles. They probably need to do some re-certifications and such bs.
>>5856056152 is better than AHL
>>585605521Yes, and? It's still nothing.
Anon asks about <<PLANE>> and responses are bombarded with people arguing about what works better without clarifying if the original question was about online or single player. This thread is so fucked
6-7. Another number.
>>585605521>>585605778Its true, shortening the time its active wont fix the actual issue with ecm, which is that its far too strong in MP compared to how it effects you in singleplayer, and that ecm and esm don't cancel each other out for some reason
>>585605521>1v1 >the rest of the team rolls in with ecm>1v1>evm and a fuckbuddy shows up>entire team spends the game glued to the ecm for fiesta modeIt's a no fun allowed mechanic if the team with ecm has a braincell between them, shit is desperately unfun no matter if it's a 1v1 or anything else, especially when they spend the match being a weasel until they can show up to ruin your fight.
>>585602682Shame it's a corny game
Do squad orders bug out? Was in Maximum Payload and no one was shooting anything they were just tailing podarges and not doing anything. Didn't see any targeting hash mark appear until the mission update and Shadows.
>>585571281>>585571581The fucked up thing is that with perfect power + drift tech the recharge tool was unnecessary. It was a crutch for people who knew and could do the tech but sometimes made mistakes and lost some power. It could lift an average player in private lobbies up to god status in public ones, even moreso than normal.>>585570687Like if PSM chaining also supercharged your gun damage and supercharged your shields.
>>585562346>but /aceg/ specifically is weirdly civillol
>>585601009Ruins one of the best looking planes of all time.>insanely broken overpowered when it first hit the scene>canopy tech that wouldn't be matched until decades later
Ran out of Ammo on Mission 30 I legitimately thought the Mission Fail was scriptedI feel legitimately disgusting every time I restart from checkpoint.
>>585607578How fucking retarded do you have to be to accomplish that
>>585606384Everything works in single player...
>>585607670I nearly did the first time. It's not that hard. M30 goes on for a while.
Why are fighter planes heroic but attack helicopters a grunty?
>Run A2G>ECM player stays at the back stealing my ground kills>Doesn't help obtain air superiority>We lose
New superweapon idea: Megatrench.
>>585608030Actually kinda fucked how often this happens.
>>585606867I agree it's far too strong and could use a nerf to how it affects other players. I've also been thinking about if running faster lock-on parts might soft counter ECM, but haven't gotten around to testing it.>ecm and esm don't cancel each other outHowever I wouldn't want this. The current status quo of ECM countering ESM brings out a unique skill expression in Growler v Barricader, and a fun mind game in Growler v Growler matches>>585607052Again, I agree ECM is too strong. I was just pointing out that people knowing not to engage in unfavorable situations and feeding kills is a good thing
New strangereal faction idea: they have a massive network of tunnel systems like Iran, but the tunnels are big enough for fighter jets to fly through them
>>585608497>skill expressionEvery time someone uses this term I lose all interest in what they're saying.
>>585608556>t. Moleman squad.
>>585607670I just held down my machine gun thinking I'd be able to pop everything in behind the sub strafe from what I can tell I was legitimately 1-2 targets off.Somehow it gave me an S rank but I don't feel good about it. Onto Ace, I guess, failing completely killed my vibe, feel miserable instead of triumphant.>>585608556Yeah I thought I conserved enough, but I didn't realise how low my Std Missiles clearly were.
>>585608497>skill expressionIt's literally just pressing a button when the giant ECM ACTIVE text on your screen disappears.
>>585608617Call it counterplay if you want, is that better?>>585608830Yes, it is.It's still better than everyone popping both at once with zero thought, which is what would end up happening if they countered each other
Why do I find Kate more attractive than Tasha?On paper Tasha should have it in the bag, but I look at Kate and I'm like... Yeah... wife.
>>585604723There are a lot of underrated tracks everyone glazes Hortus Regis Alti and Hanger IV but sleep on stuff like>Lost Country>Land Battleship 3>Celarno>Land Battleship 2/Death Rattle>Hanger 1>Wings of Waxare absolute bangers. Fuck this game's entire soundtrack is nothing but bangers
>SBMMit's clearly ZOLL memory because i'm the worst player in this general and i still get matched against extremely strong premades>>585603465>do you actually get good tls players all the timeYes, the weapon is busted as fuck and anyone who doesn't care about playing by made up honor rules or having fun with the entire rest of the aircraft roster will use it.The laser itself barely emits light and makes no noise when it's firing or when it hits you, so you'll explode quick to what seems like nothing since it has high tick damage.The way to dodge the TLS is to be right up next to it or more than 6km away, but the morgan has enough speed to intercept most aircraft and if you're ever on the defensive to someone else you're an easy targetIt also has high maneuverability and PSMs so it's not like you can fly erratically to get away unless you're close up, and morgans will just hover at the edge of their range and shine their laser pointer in a vague direction anyway to kill youPremades are learning spawn positions too so you quite literally just spawn and die since there's no grace periodthe balance is still better than the EML, i guess
>>585608556>Hollow Earth BelkansFuck yes lets go
>>585610631Better personalityTasha is a zoomer egirlKate is a confident zillennial
>>585609195If they countered each other, people could still choose to survive some time without ecm to pop theirs later and thus get the upper hand.
>>585611092I like both archetypesBut for the zoom ins, I went from Tasha to literally eyes DARTING towards Kate.
Hosting e sortie in 3 minutes
speaking of music, where is the full OST?
>>585610631because you think it makes you cool
what planes can equip SBMM?
>>585611660ADFX-01 Morgan
Sirs delay the update again so I can finish my cannon only and attacker only runs
>>585596394I think they'll make it about something that happens during the down-times during the war so they can reuse most of the cast. It's something i'd like, too.We should keep playing as Rex.Basically it should be an "anime movie" for the "series" that is the game, kind of like in 7.
>>585600657>Su-24>MiG-25Surprised they aren't just doing more western jets. Thanks PA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ol6g7PY-s
>>585612201No Migger-23 though :/
>>585562346>/aceg/ is weirdly civilthe larger AC community in general is weirdly civil but that's because everyone is 40 years old and there's exactly 1 bad game in the entire franchise (that people care about)
100$ Harrier battlepass edition
>>585612091Also we definitely need it to feature a single memorable villain. They don't need to be crazy like Torres, but make them present and confrontational.
>>585611954Hmmm, rape?
>>585612270The only MiG I have a soft spot for.
>>585612363>there's exactly 1 bad game in the entire franchiseIf it's the one I think it is then it's not even that bad reletively speaking
>>585600657ephnx is probably the XFA-27, but what the hell is the prvnc supposed to be?
>>585610631Because Kate is a woman. Tasha is a girl.
>>585562862>>585563045I never got much use out of guns in previous ACs I've played, only in PW. Thankfully I'd learnt from WT how to use them properly, only real issue was getting used to doing it on AC's control scheme.
>>585611875That one isn't in the game though
>>585596394VTOL dlc where we join jackpot squadron and have several missions tailor made for VTOL capabilities (like tunnels with 90° turns)
>beat the game before the nerfs>but it doesn't count because it was on normal diff:(
>>585612441Should be illegal to make a plane that long and then only give it 1 engine
>>585612592That one's the Raven's cockpit funnily enough, I doubt it'll be playable though, it'll probably end up as a boss enemy plane.
>>585612441Doesn't this piece of junk have one of the worst kill:death ratios among fighters?
>>585612694Go beat it again on Elite, then get your Ace S ranksYou can do it anon
I don't really have any plans on anything but just out of curiosity, would /aceg/ consider playing a game that's mechanically similar to AC but is by all means like some kind of fantasy game where you don't control planes at all?
At what point does Rex switch from an F/A-18C to an E and at what point does he switch from the F/A-18E to the F-35C?
>>585613162I was fantasizing about an AC-but-dragons, tech v magic kind of thing, game last year but I don't have the skills to make it
>>585612978It also once flew for 600 miles with nobody at the controls and killed some random person in Belgium.
>>585611468>nuclear power plant>black smokeSmh did they even play the game
>>585613162You have to get more specific than that because even switching to a dragon changes things drastically unless you think the essence of AC is simply flying around and pressing circle at things.
>>585613262IMO, Super Hornet after Rio Bajo, to replace the aircraft Baxter and Ray lost there.
>>585613262>E to CWhen Cs crash over rio bajo>18 to 35Does this happen canonically?
>>585613292Drakengard
>>585610631Tasha is characterised in a way that screams "younger sister", while Kate is characterised as essentially your equal.>>585613456That drawing was published before the game released, IIRC.
>>585604574Nta but there's definitely more than one person in these threads that felt the SBMM.I was complaining about it yesterday and explanations like region based matchmaking make no sense.>account levelDoesn't explain it. I was getting AC7 oldhead lobbies while I was still in the 2-3 star pilot level range.>age basedsame problemAt this point I can only conclude that the people who are vehemently denying that the game has no form of hidden MMR are just not winning enough games to get into these lobbies. Which might be for the best, it's probably more fun to dump on nuggets in an F4 than it is to constantly fight double Morgan comps in a Typhoon or Fullback. You'll know you're in them once matches start taking ages to find and you're only ever getting difficulty 3 with super stacked lobbies.
>>585613292I wasn't even necessarily thinking it had to be dragons, could also be people who fly with magic or flying golem-like constructs controlled by sorcerers or something like that.Though in the current day environment I picture it's mostly a matter of wanting to sit down and work through everything. Granted, not everything should be vibecoded.>>585613484Basically something analogous to the flight mechanics but without any kind of real life or scifi attachment. I'd very much like aerodynamics to still play a role in things so it shouldn't be full on gravity-defying outside of like special tricks you could do or something.
>>585613456It wasn't out yet when I saved that, so no, they hadn't.
>>585612686I'm ready. Bring me the Yak-141 and F-35B (the B stands for Based)
>>585613162>Would /aceg/ play ace combat but woth dragonsHow to train your dragon is basically an ace combat movie
>>585604723>Realized there's the Assault Horizon Dogfight and Liberation of Gracemeria Motifs in A Thousand Points of Light>The beginning of Everflow is from part of a song from the DCS Rising Squall campaign OST that Kobayashi wrote (Ace Combat inspired DCS F/A-18 campaign)This games entire OST makes my dick astonishingly hard
>>585613162Drakengard was going to be that before Square forced Cavia to add dynasty warrior style combat
>>585614217Man I really hope some of "Valkyrie" from the FF7 Remake gets reused for the DLC. That song is too good to be wasted on FF7R
>>585613937>Adventures of a flying squadron of 4>Big boss fight at the end>Power of friendship and hope to win>Banger soundtrack
>>585614282Eh, Drakengard does have flying and dragons but I don't think its gameplay is directly analogous to AC's. That's the main difference.
>>585610657>ZOLL memoryMaybe? But I started getting high level lobbies on like week 2 while I was still strapped for ZOLL.Game could also use some random fucked up algo that looks at average points scored or some shit because I'm not convinced it's about winrate.It also seems split across modes, people who have played a lot of Assault get into such a small player pool that they often get 4 man matches(which are honestly a lot more fun than 8 man). And before the shitposters jump in I'm not blaming SBMM or saying it's bad. The game should have some form of skill-based matching so that experienced players in top tier planes aren't just seal clubbing nuggets all day. I'm not making the COD argument of "REEE THE GAME SHOULD JUST LET ME WIN EVERY GAME WITH NO EFFORT USING MY QUIRKY OFF META BUILDS, WHY ARE MY OPPONENTS NOT SEVERELY BRAINDAMAGED EVERY MATCH?".
>>585614813>>585610657Anon just stfu. Lack of sbmm is the least of the games problems.
>>585612546ACAH is a bad game. Not a bad Ace Combat, not just substandard, it is an outright bad game.2 entire levels are just terrible heli gunner shit. One level is just a bad ripoff of CoD 4's AC-130 level. DFM is a bad idea that was badly implemented and the entire game revolves around it.
>>585589605>5G MASTS FLYING OVER FLAT EARTH RELEASING COVID 27
Why can't I have access to the settings menu from inside the game? Disable some options if needed but surely it's not a crime for me to want to fuck with my audio setting mid game. A return to hangar option would be nice too
>>585615108Japanese game
>>585615108Japanese menu magic.
>>585615013>2 entire levels are just terrible heli gunner shit. One level is just a bad ripoff of CoD 4's AC-130 level.Mostly subjective complaints. DFM is pretty much the thing dragging down the actual game. You get rid of it and AH is mediocre to decent instead of bad
>>585615013I liked DFM in 8
>>585615269Why?
>>585615013>American humor escapes me. *dies*
>>585615374cinematic
>>585612978That's what happens when you export the plane to third world shit holes.
>>585613731Playing 1 then 2 is fine I assume?
>>585614385I'd never heard it before, Final Fantasy isn't really my thing but what a tune. Kobayashi is physically incapable of missing, I swear.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RYEE6lJ334
>>585615248Yes, DFM being a bad idea that was badly implemented is what took the game from ~meh~ to oturight bad.>>585615269I do too. But it's only used for small cinematic moments after you've already won using regular game mechanics. You're not forced to engage with it for minutes on end and it's not really a game mechanics, just a mini cutscene(which is cool and cinematic). >>585615773More like it spent most of its service life being outfitted for ground attack so it's no wonder it has a terrible kill ratio, even by Soviet rustbucket standards.
>>585615248I actually kinda like the 2 levels where you pilot a helicopter but I don't see how anyone could defend the heli door gunner levels. The controls are weird and floaty and even if you accept random FPS levels in your arcade flight shooter they're not even good FPS levels.
>other team was had a Barricader and a Morgan.>in two instances the Barricader insisted on dogfighting vs me so I had to follow suit to at least not let them get a shot at me>they got shot down by my teammate twice>One of the enemy team either DC'd or ragequit while I somehow got 0% damageWhat the heck was this game
kek it took 2 x FAEB
>>585613456That's a Land Aegis. They're not nuclear.
>>585615269Same>>585615374Because they used it sparingly and for a handful of key dramatic cinematic purposes only. It wasn't this mandatory thing you had to use to remove the plot armor from random "TGT_LEAD's" following scripted movement patterns.
>>585616763There's a reason they nerfed this shit starting in 7
>>585616864And it's not even really DFM because it doesn't auto-control your plane. It just uses slow-mo and the DFM cam for cinematic effect.
>>585616864The first time it was used in 8 was just confusing. I don't even remember who it was that I was shooting. It was just shouting at me to save another pilot, which I was already doing until the sudden perspective change.The second(?) time I remember it is when Toprak is behind Kate in the mission where queen flight gets decimated and it cuts into DFM to give Toprak invulnerability when I was already shooting him. I suppose it's cool that we get to see his kulbit first hand and a good way to make him survive that encounter. I can't even remember if Moon 11 gets one or not, and even if she does, it's inconsequential since we get a cutscene anyway. Might as well have made the whole thing a cutscene.
>Working on AC0 - ACAH - PW 100%What should i put in the sixth?Both HAWX have no achievements
What even am I supposed to invest in out of these? I have the Foxhound and nothing much else
Anyone else a fan of the revamped PSM's in this game? I mean they're not super useful for combat but i accidentally chained PSM's together by accident and fuck it feels good. The fact that you can yaw/roll to extend PSM duration feels surprisingly good.
Why do they have giant targeting lasers?Given the massive distances involved wouldn't those lasers be pointing at empty sky anyway? What's the point?
>>585617584The SU-25 for Alicorn/Chandelier.
>>585617584The Su-25 is very good for e-sorties, between SFFS and MGP. Just remember that it's too slow for warfare and assault (where the Su-34 reigns supreme).
>>585618137I don't get why people can't just accept some shit is done for the player's benefit
>>585617529Air Conflicts :^)
https://x.com/Mis27g/status/2114230501859086541
>>585617584>Mig-21SASM plane with some meme value. Cheap to invest in, so a decent option.>F/A-18CAlso cheap, has some cool value to max out due to being starter plane.>EA-6BCheap, meme value.>Su-25SMGuns, guns, guns. People say it's good for emergency sorties but I never had one fail after the first week so I don't see the need for it.>F-14DCheap LAAMboat.>Mig-31LAAMboat, also gets QAAMs later on. Probably the most versatile fighter in the game.Nothing else has any stand out value.
>>585617584Frogfoot remains the king for Chandelier so it's not a terrible invesment.Mirage-2000 is very good for such an early unlock but it has mid-tier upgrade costs and eventually falls off.You can still use it as a sort of fighter though.The UGBs can help in warfare as long as you make sure you're not losing points for the team(meaning never take the same area as your attacker and only start hitting the ground after farming up to 3 stars on air targets).
>>585618613Mig-21 is also the best ArseBirb killer, if you care about being able to S rank it solo.MGPs + all the upgrades you'd want for them(fighter anti air modification, MGP upgrade, gun upgrade). F-4E is also good but it doesn't get the GUN upgrade(only the MGP one) or the Fighter anti air mod.
>>585618604Kino
>>585618137How else would you target without lasers?
>>585618604>no kulbit
>ace combat 7 coop mod author changes his mind and keeps working on itcan this retard stop changing his mind? at least we're gonna get more updates unless he changes his mind againdoesn't change that i think the anti ai faggots should die
Is it normal that high tier players may be completely bad in general?
>>585619118>I NEED my slop!
>>585619118Ai faggots deserve to die, too.
>>585619362>>585619389Where's your MP mod?
>>585619338If you're on a low level account with low level planes and matching up against high-level planes they're nearly guaranteed to be terrible. If they weren't you'd never match up with them on a low level account.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLodqq0fUg
>>585619443Why would I want to play co-op on the easiest game in the franchise? There's already barely enough shit to do for one person in 7 if you aren't braindead
>>585619594What plane is this?>single engine>twin tails>canards
>>585619656Eh, might be fun if AC7 annihilation missions worked like AC8 where fullclearing the map just ends the mission(or instantly sends it to the next phase) instead of just having small pockets of respawning enemies.
>>585619456Oh so they do have some sort of matchmaking rating
>>585619443Let's be real, the only reason he tried making one is because he found out some slop machine could do everything for him for the low low price of a few thousand dollars in tokens.
>>585619819its got a small radome on top of it too so probably a poorly drawn ea36
>>585619996>>585619443
>>585620206>you haven't eaten shit yet, therefore you can't say that you wouldn't like to eat shit.
>>585619863You'd have to be retarded to deny it.Unfortunately most of /aceg/ is retarded
ok but you can go spam your anti-ai seethe on reddit blud
>>585619819It's just a Kazoo with wings and an engine.
>>585618304This site and the internet as a whole is filled with autists and pedants, neither of which can accept abstractions
>>585620432holy shit I'm retarded
What aircraft should I use for the no damage run?
>>585620387>player that rushes the high tier plane and has no parts or upgrades for it flies like shit>this proves that game matches you based on your skill
this thing is so fucking cute
>>585620620F-35 with stealth parts.
>>585620620
>>585620620Change planes to suit the mission. If you really want to stick to one plane, probably Rafale.
>>585620683No, there's plenty of other ways to prove that.Also you can't "rush" to a high tier plane, they're gated behind pilot level and pilot level is ONLY based on sortie count. There is no way to speed it up or slow it down.
>>585620881t. Dassault executive
>>585620683>rushes a high tier plane>in a game mode that locks high tier planes purely behind # of matches playedBy the time you get to any plane even remotely considered high tier, you are drowning in so much Zoll that you'd be retarded to not buy the level 2 parts from the store
>>585619118>Uses Wingmate instead of WingmanProbably a tranny.
>>585620946You can get a high tier plane without playing a single Warfare match anon.
>>585621260Yes but even playing 250 Assault matches means you'll have enough ZOLL to buy some upgrades for that high tier plane.
>>585612363>because everyone is 40 years oldI'm 22
>>585612363Hey, I'm only 36! I'm still young .. haha.
>>585612363>1 bad gameThere's three.
Why is joker squadron fighting at avalon?
>>58562159645 even
>>585620620I'm combining guns only with fighter and no damage not bad with the final armor upgrade it's covered my ass a lot. Also playing on Pilot lol
>>585612363I'm a 29 year old nugget
>>585621709The Doniphan Conglomerate developed time travel.
>>585621709You know how some people have those Joker themed cars? This is the Strangereal equivalent, the FCU naval squadron's name is a coincidence.
>>585622417>>585622417>>585622417
>>585619656>why would I want to play games with my friends?I would guess the answer is that you don't have any you fucking sperg.
>>585596394well with them setting up for the events of 3, what are the chances of them making dlc to try and bridge the timeline between 8 and 3?maybe even tease the idea of remaking 3 for modern audiences?I'm not saying it's an inherently good idea, and they still have opportunities to play around with different stories and ideas before possibly rebooting or remaking entries, but 3 never got a proper localization in the US and there's a lot going on in that story that can be considered relevant now, so I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that.
>>585622604Way to ignore his point retard
>>585622604>Why would I not want to play a game co-op that clearly wasn't made for itwoah...................................................
Stop right there and answer my question, or you get the pods!What would be the worst superplane for YOU, PERSONALLY, to get added to the next battlepass?
>>585561482>Can you test the SFFS bomblets max distribution? It can get pretty wide if you aim from high up, at least in my experience.Distribution will go up at least slightly for seemingly forever, but past 2500m it doesn't change appreciably much with altitude. Above 2800-2900m you have effectively zero blast overlap. Terrain height will also affect spread distance, but that shouldn't be a oroblem on most maps. While the spread's nice you're not doing sny damage to things outside the smaller circles so keep that in mind.
