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So post game King flight is the following:King 1 = KateKing 2 = Assume is Rex?Who would be contenders for King 3 and 4? Jackpot 9 if she survives?
Missiles in Raidersphere are utterly fucking relentless without a High G turn crutch
>>585622417That's not the cutest euro dorito though
>>585622640Probably Coster, unless he retired from the Navy to join a Purple Magic cover band.
>>585622640Might just be a flight made of 2 people like Ventus Squadron (1st Fighter Squadron of the 8th Pastoral Air Wing)
>>585622668That's not a high g issue, look at the radar.They fucking QAAMd your ass.
>>585622417>>585622678The Phoon feels like the most irrelevent triangle now. No military interest, no IRL action, no cultural significance, no vidya presence. Just another part of the British Century of Humiliation.
This general will go down in history. The economy held up here will inspire the mercs that follow.
>>585622758He's retired from the navy to follow Tasha to Yuktobania
>>585621734>>585621596Tom Clancy's HAWX I\II and Project Wingman are not AC games
Just played AC8 online for the first time. Is the Morgan supposed to be ass? 'Cause these Foxhound MIGGERS are racking up 30k easy ;/ oh well I just got one myself but I hopped off for the night.
Why does the F-35 get two identical air to air damage abilities?
>>585622981Turkey was interested in Typhoons last I heard.>>585622994Love you anon.>>585622678Don't make me post the unbullpupped Gripen.>>585623078All planes are ass at low levels. Generally in multiplayer, all planes will have the same handling as long as they're the same role. Miggers get easy points because they have LAAMs, which are overtuned.
>>585623251They stack
>>585623427I know, but why does it get two of the same ability? I think its the only plane in the game like this.
>>585623251Probably a typo in the database. They probably intended to give it the anti air defense mod but misclicked.
>>585622668yeah... you really want a smaller and faster craft for these missions. Try the Bulldog(at least I think that's the name).It has a great gun, top tier maneouvrability, and can still take good weapons like bombs and rockets to clear out ground targets.
>>585622926The missiles have QAAM tracking and there is no flares or PSM + they do at least a third of your health bar, it's nuts
There are a lot of missions like this in AC8 for some reason, except you're Mihaly.
>>585623831Most likely intended to play at max speed.
Man just got done with Mission 27 on my replayThe twin tragedies was the biggest mistake of the game, you either have one or the other not both and definitely not so close together. We should have gotten a two routes where Baxter or Kate dies. Have Tasha harden up and face Tewy in the Baxter route while in the Kate route Coster steps up to look after Tasha and Toprak goes berserk in the Nightmare for Mission 29.
>>585623321>Generally in multiplayer, all planes will have the same handling as long as they're the same roleIs that why in my last game my level 12 or so Foxhound was able to at the very least keep up with a Barricader enough to not let the other guy get a good shot at me
>>585624003Imo, it feels like all the LL are larpers, except for maybe 22 a bit and Moon (but she's too out of it too perform up to snuff).It's like every time they show up they ride their initial strike fanfare despite being more or less above average or good at most, then someone with skills and PC status shows up and they fall apart.
>>585622849>Rex and Kate training all the nuggets post warThat would be an interesting conflict of personalities.
«IT'S TIME»
>>585624484>now, here's how you do some manoeuvrers>PUT THE NOSE ON HIM! KILL HIM! KILL HIM!!!
>>585624484https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsW0ushWiPMaverage Rex training program
>>585624583Still the hypest moment in the entire series
>>585624334Foxhound will overall have better handling than Barricader since it's the fighter class and fighter class gets the best handling. Level comes into play too of course, and Barricader might've been lower level.
>>585624702Sorry, but nothing can beat "You're not gonna believe this Jean-Louis, they've all got ribbon insignias"
The only good Ace Combat games are 2, 3 JP, and maybe Zero. The rest are not worth playing
>>585624181Yeah Kate's fake-out death was pretty unnecessary even if it stuck, feels like a script hiccup. Baxter's death made sense to write in IMO, as opposed to Kate's.
>>585623585The 14-A has 2 of the defensive abilities
>>585624375It's not that LL are good, it's just that the average Sotoan pilot is really really bad. This is shown by the fact that the npc ai in AC8 is much worse compared to the the one in AC7.
>>585624484https://youtu.be/hfrWchX5rAU>rex showing his nuggets the gun cam footage of him massacring gemma squadron
>>585623078Yes. F-14 and Foxhound are the two S-tiers.
>>585624981What difficulty are you playing on? 'Cause on first playthrough Elite regular enemies do cobras and kulbits. I saw it with my own eyes.
>>585625206Did my first playthrough on Elite and now doing Ace.
I was kind of disappointed at the F-35's A2G ability since LACMs just dont feel good vs the various bombs you can use...but apparently it's amazing for missile spam in HCAA? How fast is the reload on that even?
>>585625321You didn't see common enemies PSMing? Especially in late game?
>>585624702never gets old
>>585625521Nope, and even if they do PSM, that wouldn't really matter. My problem is more that at no point do they ever feel actually threatening. I never really have to stop what I'm doing to actually prioritise them to ease their pressure.>>585625479It doesn't have the HCAA ability though
Has a rip of the new version of Zero been put on the wider internet yet?
>>585625752Well. You're just that good then. I didn't find them much different from 7's. What the latter had was simply a higher volume due to all the UAVs.
>>585624181I feel like it was supposed to be a choose who dies kind of mission with the shadows splitting everybody apart initially
>>585625843It's been available since like day 1.
>>585623078Flight performance increases with level. The Morgan is extremely good at level 20 with ECM and TLS in the hands of someone good with TLS. It costs a shit ton of resources to get it there though. Lower tier aircraft are going to outpace morgans in growth rate since they are cheaper to level up.
I did the first three missions on Expert instead of Elite, can I play them on freeplay Elite to unlock Ace?
>>585624995>"Hey, The Gemma flight lead bailed out. What happened to her?">Rex: https://youtu.be/ZTJXW7JcSes?si=-GyqWb--mXOEmQ5l&t=55
>>585626712No, restart your campaign it's only 3 missions
>land battleship>super submarine>flying aircraft carrierWhy can't the superweapon just be a surface ship?
>>585627201Ask the Yamato
>>585627201Big ships already exist, they're regular weapons and not super enough
>>585627201endurance was hosting a superweapon, how's that
>>585624841>>585624484Best is still> <<So, have you found a reason to fight yet? Buddy.>>
>'Hey, you know what our game needs after 8 minutes of cutscenes with awkward English script localization/voice direction?">"10 minutes of slow flying where you do nothing but listen to a radio drama with more clunkily integrated plot exposition and voice direction!"
>>585627268Just make it bigger>>585627294Just make it bigger>>585627296It could've been bigger
>>585627201A surface ship with actually semi-realistically functioning air defense systems would be the hardest boss battle in Ace Combat yet
>>585627432anon's a size queengaped
>>585627432do it, PA
>gripen 6agm>online
Ahem.
>>585627201Not cool enough, duh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sUProject Wingman's composer is releasing a new albumOh and there's a 2h dogfight animation with it
>>585627651>Project HabakkukWe've finally found our superweapon for the Nordennavic-Wellow ice wars
>>585628005>>585627651Don't forget that the whole thing is steathed so no one knows.
>>585627651This can't be harder than building a Stonehenge gun on an iceberg.
>>585627201>Why can't the superweapon just be a surface ship?Fastia?
>>585628351>the runway open up Venator style and deploys a stonhedge cannon
>>585627201The Kirov kinda got treated like one in AH but honestly Big Ship is just kinda boring imoEspecially since it'd basically just be the Land Battleship but more limited probably
I FUCKING HATE WARFARE
Ship, you say?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZEfHDVWBwQ
>>585622640O. Shawn (Parrot) and a Savian merc
>>585628538Calm down, Tasha.And do another Cobra in an A-10.
>die>still get an S rank
>>585624583
>>585628005Where the hell is Savia?
>>585628886South of Erusea. Was originally one of their provinces.
Ishaq mogs Tiwari as a Land Battleship commander
>>585622640It's 50/50 that King 3/4 is Coster. He's either still flying with Ray and Kate or he's in Yuktobania slamming 6 kids into Tasha.
>>585629250As much as I hate Sotoans both of them had brass fucking balls and mog everyone in their bitch ass air force
>>585589605The demo was ultra-mid. I kinda wish there were more arcadey combat flight games that *didn't* try to copy Ace Combat? You really don't need to have a single button to cycle through dozens of targets, or have the camera return to center, or have an on-rails flight model, or pursuit guidance missiles, or a near-future/current day timeframe, or harmless anti-air, etc. Do something new, or at least copy something we haven't seen in awhile, like Crimson Skies.
>>585629421Ishaq had balls, Tiwari wouldn't let his crew evacuate and ended up roasting them alive despite the ship having an autopilot setting that he could've activated at any point.
>>585561482>Can you test the SFFS bomblets max distribution? It can get pretty wide if you aim from high up, at least in my experience.Distribution will go up at least slightly for seemingly forever, but past 2500m it doesn't change appreciably much with altitude. Above 2800-2900m you have effectively zero blast overlap. Terrain height will also affect spread distance, but that shouldn't be a problem on most maps. While the spread's nice you're not doing sny damage to things outside the smaller circles so keep that in mind.
>>585629421It's because they both go all in even when it kills them.In Tiwari's case especially when it kills them, seriously, that man was way too calm while he was being boiled alive.
>>585630409The only thing that game has going for it is a completely schizophrenic backdrop
it's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sU>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sU>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sU>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRD_UmFF5sU
>"Ok, so I've finished the campaign, time to hop on online to see what's what!!">queue up>in a lobby with 3 morgans>I'm in a shitty F-4>game ends in like 3 minutesuhhhhthis is kinda dogshit innit
>>585630409Also: we don't have to do the god pilot wank. Bandog is the most fun AC character of all time precisely because he doesn't like you.
lollmaohttps://youtu.be/MdLodqq0fUg
>>585561482>>585630751More autism because I was curious about how high you could climb and still have effective bomblet stacking. Done over water for "control" since terrain height affects spread. Both this and the other image were with Improved Submunition Liner 2 and Extended Submunition Casing 2, I figure anyone going for an SFFS plane will also buy those. Don't have the SFFS ability for my Frogfoot yet, which would give +2 bomblets.Also found out what heights bomblets break off at. Below ~40m you've only got the parent bomb, ~337m is the minimum height you need to fly and get them all to spawn for maximum damage. I don't know how +2 more bomblets will affect things, if you'll need to climb higher to get those to spawn.
Stop right there and answer my question, or you get the pods!What would be the worst superplane for YOU, PERSONALLY, to get added to the next battlepass?
>>585631387Strike Wyvern because it's kinda poopy and because the original Wyvern was never one of my favorite superplanes to begin with. Which is odd since 4 is my favorite game.
>>585631387Adler. It's just too fucking ugly.
>>585631386>been dropping them at 400m 'cause it "felt right">actually on the moneyFeels good, man.
>>585631387the X-40
>>585631387Any Wyvernboring planebest would be a Delphinus prototype
>>585631387the plane markov used in ACAH
>>585631530ur 2 fukin ugly
>>585631662They WILL add the PAK FA with some weird annoying loadout and you WILL hate it!
>>585631662That's just the Felon tho.And also I want it back because Trinity was played as a MPBM in Infinity and I want that back>>585631387Strike Wyvern is kinda "eh" for me but I still wouldn't mind seeing it again.
>>585631770Nuh uh
>>585631386Wonder what's the actual surface area of the max altitude circle.
>>585631387Darkstar from Top Gun. Stupid fucking plane. Fuck you.
>>585631593Agree with this one. I do not care for the flying boomerang.
>>585631574Good instincts, buddy. Honestly I misunderstood the original question because spread's not super important for me as I'd rather use UGBs/UGBLs for bast radius, SFFS shines with stacking. Hence why the overlap picture has so much more effort.
I fucking hate any multirole users>oh i see you're flying a ground attack let me just steal the last hit on these ships :))FUCK OFF CUNT GO SHOOT DOWN THOSE SU-57S!
>>585631884There needs to be assists, even in campaign.
>>585631815I think he's referencing the Shinden II.
>>585631387Falken or Raven. Not only because they are ugly as sin but because a TLS with fighter damage modifier would be aids.
>>585632078Wingman kills are already full points though
>>585631070Level 5 phantom is better than level 5 Morgan.
>>585632157I mean it's more like everything got cleared in seconds
>>585631824Should be about as if not bigger than a UGBL with max parts, crop circles are a convenient reference along with the the "square" of AA guns. UGBs are more flexible since they're not altitude dependant and will damage anything inside their circle though.
>>585631884>pick rafale>steal kills with LACM and LAAMhon hon hon
>>585631884>>585632078Simply make it so whoever does the most damage gets the kill credit, sorted.
>>585632274Nah, proportional. You divide up the points.
>>585632246No I mean actual meter squared
Last reference image. I should update this since MPBM will splash up to 300m, the main circle is just 250m.
>>585632241People are flying shitty low level Morgan's right now to complete a weekly task. The stock Morgan with the burst missile is basically just a shitty attacker and is probably piloted by a noob. You should only feel a bit of concern if it's running TLS, and panic a little bit if you see it deploy ecm too.As for assault mode getting wiped fast, that's unfortunately standard. Everything centers around spamming snore fest missions until you are allowed to fight a super weapon
>>585631884This is how I've felt for any targets I'm trying to attack in AC8's Multiplayer
>>585632817He was running ECM heh>Everything centers around spamming snore fest missions until you are allowed to fight a super weaponeeshI guess that's going to be a Not For Me/10
>54% of players completed the campaign on steamThat's pretty good, what are the completion rates for xbox and snoystation fags?
>>585628447Wish they treated Kirovs and carriers like minibosses instead of point pinatas you break with a LACM or two.
>>585633001I mean people paying $70 + tip for a game are likely people who are gonna play it. When it's on sale for $15 the rate will tank.
>>585632949Yeah. Online objectively sucks. Many are just going through the motions to complete the battle pass and then wait to see if PA does anything to fix it for season 2.
>>585631387varcolac, they should add it anyways just to make me suffer
>>585622981It'll always be the AC3 starter plane
>>585622981what a horrible paintjob
>>585634732I'd rather the Future Fulcrum. Makes more sense narratively too since Rena flies a Flanker and late game UPEO uses the Berkut.
>>585624995>>585626934>Kate then explains this is why the nuggets better listen to her because if they survive such a fight she'll give them the belt>>585631387If it has the same loadout as AC7 then the Shinden. Otherwise X-40 is just going to be a worse Morgan.
>>585624484bow to your senseiBOW TO YOUR SENSEI
Are you a real soldier, Jackson?
>>585635336<< YES SIR! >>
>Double Trigger dev sobered up and is back on the project>source code was easily translated to ac8 and some modders are testing a working co-op with up to 24 playersIt's not looking good ACO bros...
>>585631387The XFA-27 because I'd be so excited that I'd end up forced to play online and god knows it won't be a level 1 unlock like the Morgan, madw worse by the cool skins probably being high BP level locked.
>>585636476>Mission 28 with 24 playersOh fuck...
>>585635397<<OH, MY SHOULDER!>>
>>585636476>Get to experience the lack of targets issue that Assault has but now in CampaignOh boy?
Is it possible to force wingmates to only use one special weapon type in the campaign? I don't want them to equip bombs for a pure air to air mission.
>>585635397CAN YOU WIPE YOUR OWN ASS?!
>>585636737too much management for zoomer player
In 7 we had Nickleback.Who do we have in 8?
>>585636782<< NO SIR! >>
>>585636918The guy with the "clearly you don't own an air fryer" face
>>585636476>Haphazardly slamming co-op into something it wasn't designed for instead of just playing something together that's actually thought outI don't get it
Ace combat where you get no super planes and you're a rag tag mercenary group and you gotta manage your planes like beater cars in a Gran Turismo game, you only can afford better ones by doing dangerous missions. And they should use this as an exuse to bring back that mechanic where if your plane blows up, you lose it until you buy it again.
>>585637504Playing with friends is fun. But also the same devs have been working on an endless-wave survival mode gamemode so it's meant more for that, it can just be adapted to campaign
>>585637686>What if we made Ace Combat but bad
>>585637686It wouldn't be for everyone but I would play an AC game where you're playing nothing better than Gen 3 shitboxes.
>>585637773it doesn't have to be a main mode, but it would make for interesting DLC imo
>>585637773AC2 was good though.
>>585637924No it wasn't
>>585638195you're right, it was great
>>585638195NTA but I liked the plane choice.
>>585637686Something like mechwarrior 5 mercenaries but with planes?
>>585638195https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ABs_Kw_miwFire Youngmen be upon ye!
>>585638773>rockslop
>>585638371PW conquest mode, but you get plane/weapon parts from the planes/enemies you shoot down and after enough are collected, rebuild a 'used' versions. Collect more to rebuild it into a pristine variant, extra upgrades, etc.>>585638867You are courting Latin chorus death.
MY BLUE SKY HOME
>>585637686My own flying vidya idea goes for something like this. The USA east coast and a third of Europe went up in nuclear flames after the Cuban missile crisis went hot, with the NATO and USSR falling by the end of the year. De Gaulle planned for this, and had all secretly formed a "let's not shoot" pact with other NATO and Warsaw Pact countries, where they would just shoot all their US and Russian missile operators in the head, so they could avoid collapse and end up on top at the end of the nuclear exchange. In the aftermath, France is the #1 power, basically has a monopoly on nuclear power and weapons, and only permits uranium extraction or enrichment or power plant operation to its allies. Le French themselves get the HUGE fission powered aerial cruisers for policing the world, while the Foreign Air Legions which operate outside the imperial core as a vanguard get the "smaller" (merely CL1201 sized) aerial cruisers. You would basically get to be the squadron leader for one of these, and while fighting the Sino-Burger alliance / other minor powers, would take or buy whatever salvage you can find to keep your ship stocked up and everything in working condition.
>>585631884feels good to fly the least meta plane type and still get MVP
>>585639217Yeah that's pretty much what mechwarrior is.
>>585634732Yeah, as the original post said, irrelevant.
>>585636918Leon S. Kennedy
>>585637504It's not like it's any better when it's actually designed for it like in ACO.
>>585636918generic sad loser rocker boy
>>585641620No but I could just go play Nuclear Option with a friend or some shit
Not sure if it's already been posted, but god damn: https://youtu.be/1vA3qws-SmI
>>585642426To this day we still lack an F-16 with canards!!!
>>585631024Damn looks kino.
>>585631024>wishlist now on steamso is it a game or a movie?
>>585631024>Deliver the packageSo what this is about the adventure of a UPS man?
The F/A-18E/F just doesn't seem like a hero plane to me, guysNot a super plane, not an underdog, not the next big thing, not a reliable old warhorse, not sexy, more of a ground pounder than a knight of the sky, just... meh
I give up on trying to get all S ranks and medals. Mission 28/Toprak is the most annoying bullshit i've ever experienced ever. Kulbitman ate 40 QAAMs in one of my tries, I think i'll just call it at this point.
>>585636476Coop mods are cool but the game is already easy enough as a single player. A True Ace difficulty with like double the enemy count would be great.
>>585643241<< YES >>
>>585643348SASM, my boy. Or just gun the fucker.
>>585643348Use your gun, shoot the bastards
>>585643348/aceg/ not beating the allegations of being cripplingly retarded
>>585643348git gud fag
>>585643285Iirc, it's a Markov travels from Moscow to US to nuke it and fights various aces along the way, but fictional and stuff.
>>585643348type b gun reticle and gun buff partsggez
>>585643319I'm sure people that flew them or had friends and family that did are fans, but the full line of Hornets never seemed to have that big of a fanbase. Not compared to something as iconic as the Tomcat or as battle tested as the Eagle.
>>585643319F/A-18F feels like the mothers car of aircraft. Not sure how quite to explain it but just something generally safe that isn't too flashy but can comfortably have the kids in the back and get the job done.
are the enemies that turn yellow in zero fixed or chance-basedtrying to balance out this fucker but i messed up my saves and now only have 1-2 missions to spare before the final stretch where it locks in
>>585643861Fixed per difficulty.
>>585631024>From the composer that brought you all of two memorable tracks (one of which is just cribbing off an anime)
>>585643348QAAMs can only hit him with ESM and guidance boost part, and even then it's only sometimes. Use your guns.
>>585643319>only plane to ever down F15s in air-to-air combat>3 of them at that>in a 3v2Seems pretty super to me. It's also sexy.
>>585643569That, except the package is a mystery box because FAN doesn't have the balls to have his protagonist nuke something.
>>585643573Isn't type the one without lead?
>>585644118Ghost of Kuwait was a legacy Hornet, I thought.
>>585643348Guns if you wanna be cool, just launch a standard missile and when he PSMs blast his cockpit, done for. SASMs if you wanna be a lazy bastard like me, he can't PSM or flare fast enough to dodge the full radius, even with no parts.
>>585643319Same could be said of the F-15 and yet people can't stop creaming themselves over it
I like the Mig-21Bis.
>>585644118>actually counting friendly fire as a positiveIf anything it should be points against the Hornet for fielding such mentally retarded pilots.
>>585644118Legacy Bug mogged those Eagles, actually
>>585644623>mentally retarded pilotsDon't talk about my boy Rey that way.
>>585643707Hornets are seen as sort of a workhorse of aircraft in the same way the F-16 is. Which is sad cause NASA had fun modifying the shit out of that airframe creating some prototypes that had absurd levels of maneuverability.
>>585644623Accurate to DCS online servers.>get in Hornet>turn on radar>see blips>lock em all>fox 3 times 10>wipe out half my own team>land and call it a daySimple as
>>585645076thank you for your service
>>585645052>no Hornet with 3Ds>no hornet with canards>no hornet with a forward sweepWhy do we still live?
>>585644118>in air-to-air combatAre you retarded?
>>585644118>>585644257>>585644623Would not have surprised me if the devs originally intended for Tasha when she finally activated her weapons to end up splashing half of Queen flight in a friendly fire accident as a nod to that.>>585645076>Shooting down only half of your own teamTake it you had a bad session?
>opened a /v/ ace combat threadI shouldn't have done that
How's Project Wingman anons? I already burned through AC8, AC7 and ACZero and i want more
>>585645493aibou...
>>585645518It's an enjoyable game but the fans are insufferable. Dev also sucks bad at communicating and ended up promising shit he could never deliver.
>>585645052NASA genuinely made some of the coolest mods to planes. I wish there was a Strangereal equivalent of a ricer shop that did the same sort of stuff for your planes. I need my canarded F-4 to shwack Su-57s.
>>585645518It's very good. Basically a love letter to Zero and Ace Combat as a whole. Just get the mod that flags all the planes as two seaters so you can always have Prez. There's a mod that adds a second seat to every plane but I'm not sure if it works anymore.
>>585645518Nothing ground breaking but its good. Might wanna download the make all planes two seaters mod so you can hear all of Prez's voice lines.Fans are really fuckin weird though.
>slog my way through pixys phase 1 & 2 >keep eating shit on phase 3 because the fucker refuses to joust me and when he does I immediately eat shit to missilessure im an ac7 kiddy missing my checkpoints but fuck me this cunt makes me want to establish more borders just to spite him
>>585645518dollar store ace combat, good if you want to scratch that itch but already played every ACjust dont interact with the fans, they're all insufferable lol
Please correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the original teasers and reveals talking about how we had to maintain a streamer audience or something? Like that was supposed to be an actual mechanic? Am I getting mandela'd or was it cut?
>>585645518It's fine. Good gunplay, graphics are good for half of the game, fun super planes. Writing's dumb if you think about it for too long, kickstarter campaign still hasn't fulfilled its artbook promise, bosses are damage sponges.
>>585645518I like it almost as much as zero, definitely one of my favorites.
>>585646030You might be a schizo, anon.
>>585646030Fuck me i knew i wasn't insane
>>585645807That's on my wishlist for some future Ace Combat or equivalent game, a part/customization system that changes the appearance of the plane.
>>585646030>>585646312meds now
>>585645851for me, when his AI was persistent to fuck with me, I'd forgoe dodging and just dance around him and give a scare with a missle or two until he fucked of in a direction that gave me an opening to turn tail so we could joust.
>>585646030You might be confusing it with the big screen in Online that was supposed to stream ongoing matches
>>585646091>Writing's dumb if you think about it for too longNot really. Crimson is a protagonist if everything went wrong for him so he flips over the chess board while projecting all his failure onto Monarch. It's not complicated unless you're autistic (I know, hard for /aceg/)
>>585645518Very solid game, highly recommend it
>>585645340Probably is some weirder Hornet experiments out there we have yet to find out about or if there is then they are hidden in obscure archives. Know they did some funky shit with the AAW.>>585645807Feels definitely something that wouldn't be out of place and at the very least would hope that the NASA prototypes would be an "endgame" upgraded version of an existing aircraft. I also feel in Strangereal you should see stuff that in real life made the final set of trials but didn't get accepted into service in our world like the YF-17 as there would be enough demand all round for any viable plane people have for sale. Would also help flesh out some low-mid tier planes.
>>585644118>in air-to-air combat>a brown team killing fucktard counts as air-to-air combatNot sure about that one, bud.
>>585643861The number of yellow targets in the briefing is accurate, additional yellow targets may appear mid mission.Keep a count of how many you've shot down/spared while playing and balance it out, that's why a soldier Ace can change the tide of battle.
>>585643861I think the best way to keep soldier is to shoot anything yellow that isn't a house or a tent
>>585647045I recently had a playthrough of AC0 when I tried that. Ended up getting Knight. Guess the game doesn't consider killing Belkans as evil?
>>585646557Nigger, did I ever say it was complicated? This is a retarded fucking plotline that only serves to prop up a lame "ace" you end up dunking on every single time you encounter him. Frost comes off as more threatening because she at least manages to dox Sicario,.
>>585647045I just play like a moral schizo. Sometimes I do maximum warcrimes, other times I do minimum warcrimes
I love AC5 because it really makes you feel like part of a band of brothers who go through hell together. 8 did the same and it's why it's so good.
>>5856481905 is a bunch of retarded anime cardboard cutouts and if you think they're good then I can only assume you're mentally stunted
>>585643707Literally the only reason the Tomcat is seen as iconic is Top Gun. And you know it.
>>585645518Super nice. I kept playing it over and over again alongside AC7 when AC8 was just about to be released.Also, hoping the AC8 modder who placed PWM's superplane, the eponymously named PWM, makes their mod visible/available again.
Do Sotoans rape captured soldiers? Rape is pretty nomad pilled
>>585648326I apologize for offending you with my opinion, I do sincerely hope you'll find it in your heart to forgive me.
>>585648326That's the definition of iconic, Anon, so yeah, agreed by default.
>>585648190AC8 made me feel like a babysitter with a pair of unruly kids. I was kind of hoping that they were going to combine Joker and Queen flights together a lot sooner so it would be you, Baxter, Kate and Cruz with the option to put Coster and Tasha in the WSO slot.
>>585648663So you admit to letting media tell you which planes you should think are cool instead of forming your own opinions and thoughts.
>>585648575>captureLolLmao
>>585648326>Didn't have a Tomcat bang his mom
I kinda wish warships in campaign had as much health as they do in multiplayer
>>5856481905's cast didn't stick with me desu, 8 did a better job but Coster kinda takes a back seat less than half way through the game, and having two deaths with one of them being a fake out was a bit oddly timed, especially with how odd Kate's return felt logically outside of a pure "hype" moment. Bartlett's return was something I knew was gonna happen and he doesn't spend enough time with the squad to have an interesting impact. Nagase is sexy and feisty tho.Ace Combat works better imo when you're only really focused on a few select cast members imo. I like wingmen banter, but one or two story characters is enough for me. the only real outlier for me in all this was AC3, but that game has a lot going on with the routes where you're usually focusing on a couple characters per route while others take a back seat until you reach their routes.
>>585649036Stop being retarded
>>585649036its a little goofy you can sink a full on cruiser with 2 sidewinders
>>585649142I still think that Kate's death scene was from a scrapped route she would die if you chose wrong or didn't play well enough. Why else would the scene of her floating in the ocean be a week after she was shot down?
>>585648857No, I never thought the Tomcat was particularly cool. I'm a son of Satan's Angels, and I fly the F-4D. If anything, with how vilified it is, media's had the opposite effect on me.
>/aceg/ once again realizing none of these games have good writing
Can a SOD glide through the entire tunnel or is it gonna crash into the ceiling?
>>585649376I'm sure this was done in the attempt to keep the game streamlined and on budget/time. I felt 30 missions felt a smidge too long and I can see them scraping alternate routes and incorperating them into a single cohesive story to make sure the game came out without delays or overspending, but I'm just speculating.
>>585648571>Seema islandUh-Oh.
>>585649602Good writing and liking the story/lore are 2 different things.
>>585649602Bro if I wanted good writing I'd read a book. I'm in /vg/ not /lit/
Have you guys ever seen a fighter jet up close in real life? Did the size of them surprise you?
>>585650153The F-5E isn't very big, so not really
Have 20 minutes of Phantom II glazing.https://youtu.be/IpqTaYPfI9I
>>585649602A matter of interpretation I'd say
>>585649686Yea, it really feels like they tried to really make the game easier for normalfags. Hardly any gimmick missions, no weather effects, no tunnel runs, fewer planes in the tech tree, much stronger AI allies, far simpler bosses. They're even nerfing the Ladons and Shadow 22.
>>585650153What was the meme, a modern fighter is almost the size of a WW2 heavy bomber?Yeah, shit's pretty huge.
>>585650153No, but I've only seen F-16s which are smol anyway. I've seen them take-off and fly over too though and it's insane how loud they are. Even though they're like a km up in the air they make your bones shake.
>playing 8 for the first time>get to the mission where you escape using a shitty unarmed plane>have to navigate the field of red bubbles that denote air defence>have to navigate your way to the return line>they even give you green bubbles in the 3d map to help you outThis shit is rehashed 5 to an insulting degree. It's the follow Pops mission and the recon mission combined.
>>585650153I saw many jets in an air show, including an F22, though you couldn't get close to it, and yeah, i had only seen WWII fighters before, jets are massive.
>>585650153The F-16 was smaller than I expected cramped sob and a pain to work on. The 15 huge though
>>585650285>no weather effectslegit made me sad there wasn't a snow or rain mission where I had to worry about frost build up as much or lightning storms and turbulance, seeing weather effects in the cockpit would've been cool. hell, a night mission or something, closest you get is retaking theve ii.
>>585650780>lightning stormsi'm pretty sure i got struck by a lighting once or twice
>>585650780Last Hope remains one of my favorite missions in 7. People shit on the identification gimmick but flying around cities at night is so peak. Gracemaria Patrol is very kino as well.
>>585650857They exist but you gotta fly through clouds for a good while before something happens. They're fun and the engine seems like it could make them really pretty, but 7 involved weather setpieces more than 8 does.
No one liked the lightning storm you contrarian niggers
tf is this, and did you know about it?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sky_Crawlers:_Innocent_Aces
>>585651183I did, eat shit.
what is the best mission to farm MRP
>>585651191sky crawlers gets brought up at least once every other couple threads.
7's weather set pieces were fucking dogshit, though. The fact that they didn't bother in 8 leads me to feel they felt the same way. I'd rather they try to make better ones then not bother at all though, I was hoping for a hurrican dogfight but that was also because I though the sattelites were weather control.
>>585651191nigga we talk about it every thread, it's a great movie and a great game as long as you use a normal controllergo watch the movie then play the game after, and don't read any spoilers that people reply to you with
>>585651269Just do another one of your 4+ campaigns for 100% completion
>>585649602better than i could dowhich is a shame because i'd love to write the short-story version of an AC plot even though that's a dumb idea that misses how important the music, gameplay, and general integration of all the pieces is what makes AC work
>>585651191yes, teacher/lynx is the maddest bastard ever and his plane is cool
Speaking of sky crawlers, what do I need to emulate it?
>>585649432>we could have had a Phantom with LACMsStrap me to a Tonitrus Spear and fire it at Bamco headquarters, I am ready.
>>585651448>better than i could doThat's pretty pathetic
>>585651464Cheetah is the cooler name.japanese saying english wordsTEE-CHACHEE-TAHrepresenting his betrayal
>>585651464>spends his time murdering his clones for what i can only assume is funMad bastard is a pretty apt description.
>>585651558a wii
>>585651558Just Dolphin IIRC
>>585651558Nothing special. Dolphin or CEMU. I think it even has in-game controller settings to switch the wagglan input to normal controller inputs.
>>585622417 Anyone suggesting fucking mission 27 for MRP farming has to be trolling.I just did an hour of mission 16, and optimized pretty well; done in 3 mins or so. Fucking 27 has>[railgun warning]>SAMs and other shit flying around trying to hit you>big fuck you AA guns that block the entry to the core>full minute of unskippable dialogue when you finish part 1>worse "tunnel" run in the entire franchise>sunlight blinding you>smoke from the AA turret>fire missile at core, either hits the wall or hits the target causing a large explosion robbing you of your visibilityLike holy fuck how aggravating. I'd rather play through the entire campaign again.
>>585651191>>585651376The idea that society would accept that war and violence is required as background noise for humanity to function, and went out of the war to create gamified wars as a sink for violent human behavior, is very interesting. I wonder, could a large empire sustain itself longer if it allowed / provoked / encouraged minor civil wars as a feature to vent off a larger outburst of violence later on?
>>585651898It's not fun, he despises the Kildren system and switched teams to show the world what a waste they were, by killing them over and over in the exact same way, with special loathing for his old self's clone as shown by him dumping every last round into it.
>>585652697It's a bad thesis, though.The whole "outlet for human aggression and competition" thing is actually filled by mundane things like 'sports' and 'games'. Wars are the violent outcome of diplomatic escalations in order to produce a desired end. They don't just happen because anyone wants them to happen, in fact the entire point of diplomacy is to prevent it and entire volumes are written on the rules of war that deal with why escalating a war beyond what you can deescalate from is a bad idea.But as usual, Japs are retarded.
>>585652928Is that something only stated in the light novels or games? I haven't read or played either, so if you watch the movie you're left to speculate on your own.
>>585652638>bro just farm this shitYou guys got any other missions suggestions for MRP grinding?
>>585652638>take SFFS with every upgrade part possible>get to super high altitude >win without anything even touching youIt's literally that easy
>>585651558Just get AI to do it
>>585652638Skill issue
>>585652697>could a large empire sustain itself longer if it allowed / provoked / encouraged minor civil wars as a feature to vent off a larger outburst of violence later on?Not really because that shit escalates. No father is going to go "Oh well, they killed my son but that's just how these wars go sometimes, we'll get them next time." and no son is going to go "My father died for his ideals fighting these guys but I'm just going to chill with them because it's not war season yet."
>>585631024Hmm didn't care a couple of years ago still don't care today.
>>585650153I've been to a few museums in the UK. I saw the TSR-2 at Cosford, it's a huge bitch.South Wales Air Museum had a Fairey Gannet, that's also a huge bitch.
>>585653067Some light novel, mostly speculation, but the only conclusion you can really come to, given his reaction at the end of the game to everyone being dead then revived, and Kusanagi's "plan" at the end of the movie. If you take it as her not being the original and coming up with the Cheetah -> Teacher plan it shifts the perspective. You could also infer that Teacher is trying to teach either those responsible or the viewers that Kildren are a solved game, they don't learn or change or grow, and as such die the same way to the same tactic every single time, in a bid to shut the program down.
>>585653207I know I've seen pic related from the japs but I still gotta fly through that fuck ass tunnel.
>play 5>made me like Tomcat>play 8>made me like HornetWhat plane do I start liking next?
>>585645709>>585645849>>585646027Are these "fans" in the room with us?
>>585653780Play 4, become one with the Phantom.
>>585653780ur mom is a plain jane, but I already called dibs
I am insufferable but that has nothing to do with liking PW.
>>585653653>but I still gotta fly through that fuck ass tunnel.Retards like you are why we didn't get a full tunnel run in AC8
>>585653653>tunnelThat is not a tunnel you fucking pussy
>>585653653People who can't fly through tunnels should be banned from playing ace combat.
>>585653173There’s no way anyone in this general is legitimately this bad, surely…
the next game should have a tunnel run where you pull some luke skywalker shit and while your hud is being fucked with, you're forced to blindly drop a bomb in a small drop zone without any assitance
>>585653934Here goes nothing. I already like this pre-title screen music
Since mission 27 apparently is a walk in a park. Then help me out. Which plane should I buy to grind the mission?
>>585652638>Farming>SPAre you a retard or something?
>>585654832Mig-21 with gun pods
I wonder what the memes during the events of AC8 in Strangereal are like.>People clowning on the FCU for basically folding in, like, three months>then suddenly Sotoa counter folds>muh Paradise posting>muh Nomads posting
>>585654832>grindWhy are people grinding?Just play the game?
>>585654901I want to know what strangereal /pol/ looks like
>>585654982>belka did nothing wrong>fcu deserves sotoan invasion
>>585654982>>585655043The whole board would be nothing but oblastposting for the entire duration of 8's war.
>>585652638>MRP farmingbut whyby the time you finish your medal runs you'll have bought everything and mrp will be meaningless
I keep forgetting that mission 27-30 all happens in one day, Rex is kind of a freak.
>>585655139The typical answer is autism.
>>585654982seven nukes wasn't enough
Have not played War Thunder in forever don't even remember what AIM9 I was mostly shooting in that what's the difference
>>585654982Its all bots from Belka, Erusea, & Leasath trying to out shitpost each other. While Sota posters aren't bots but people who get ignored for being complete idiots. You never see anyone from Estovakia however as they are all over in /y/
>>585655415Smokeless motors and better flare rejection
>>585643861You just check the briefing total then keep count of the fighters.Also a few missions have moments where an ally comes under attack and a unique enemy shows up on radar how you deal with that tips the scales too.
>>585654925All my playing was captivated by the dumb season pass. Since I got the ultimate edition felt like I had to complete the BP or I wasted my money. Now that that bullshit is almost behind me. I'm grinding out planes I want so I can do an elite/ACES play though of the campaign. I also still have Zero to play. So in case I get brun out it'll be alot easier to jump back into the campaign months from now with the planes I want instead of grinding them out later.
not a poundfor air to ground
Kate sex
>>585654770>he actually did itUnfathomably based.
>>585651191Autism kino
>>585653173>Just blindly flies into some smoke>Has plenty of time to High-G turn out of the way
>>585655782Where the fuck did Baxter maintain such clean lines in the middle of a war anyways? Maybe his barber got evac'd from Theve.
>>585654770I can hear this image goddammit
>>585655909Wartime is no excuse not to look fresh as fuckCoster looking like a bum is his choice
>>585655909Dude it's the military, there are at least six dudes per unit who knows his way around a pair of clippers because the alternative is the base barber who will butcher you
>>585655987Coster's going for the 90's grunge singer look and hey Tasha's into it, I guess.>>585656070I hadn't even considered that, even as a neverserved that seems pretty obvious in retrospect. Kinda like how there's always a couple guys who can turn MREs into gourmet meals when they have the time.
>>585654692You have to understand that most of this general is retarded
>>585653653If you blow up the platforms (which you should for maximum points), it's barely a tunnel. Don't even need to aim for the reactor either if you bring dumb bombs.
Does shooting down the sharks in m4 even matter?
>>585656405Yes, but we can at least fly good
>>585656538It gives you points.
>>585656538i believe they count as named aces for the x-40 skin
>>585656632>>585656654OK, thanks guys
>>585655909God I need this but with Rex and Baxter
>>585655705Cannon rounds are air to ground weapons
https://gx.games/games/lpojss/airspace-raider/https://progchad.itch.io/airspace-raiderI just updated my free 2D jet combat game called Airspace Raider if anyone's interested2000ish total plays so farI grew up playing AC4/5/Zero so the game borrows stuff from Ace Combat (including wingman commands) with a Tarkov-style persistent inventory and selectable raids you try to win to keep your loadout and get rewards and level up.Simple kb+m WASD controls, you can use a joy-to-key mapper to add HOTAS support within a couple of minutes
>>585657078The standard air to air belt for the 20mm didn't include any of the ammo designed to deal with ground targets, therefore we can conclude that the previous statement holds true.
https://x.com/shibu235711/status/2114488220121694419
>>585655705You throw on 4AAM & HCAA or just SASM
>>585657110>extraction dogfighterHuh. Never would have though of that buddy. I might give it a look later.
Its hot
>>585657470Cope deliberately got himself killed by Topkek just so DD couldn't force him to make more dance memes.
>>585655730>>585655983Can I kill one of these fuckass Yellows in mission 4, or are they invincible?I know AWACS says to leave but I wanna kill em
>>585657679<<Malik! The fuck are you doing in my airspace?>>
>>585657470>>585657723>One more for the Gram>Look at how many views you got, we could even monetize at this rate
>>585657801You can try but its not possible. In your first encounter with them they can even evade QAAM's with ease. If you get some gun hits on them nothing happen.But they aren't invincible using cheats something discovered you can shoot one down but it requires more missiles than you carry on any plane.
>>585658258Can't believe I've been seething at this for almost as long as I've been alive.
>>585657801You'll get your chance eventually, buddy, just you wait. The way the Yellows are built up throughout 4 is one of my favorite parts of the story.
>>585657470I like how the AI made him look even more like totally-not-Tom Cruise
>>585658452Get out of our town, you fascist pig!
Doing my first run of the game with F-18C let me find something odd about how the game tracks planes and kills.I hadn't bought a Rafale but when Kate shows up in one the game still added it to this page. Would make more sense if we had a wingmen kill section instead of just yours
>>585658904Yeah, if I had one request for AC9, it'd be to keep innovating on wingmen mechanics and track their achievements. Then situations like "pacifist Tasha has to make her first kill" could happen organically rather than in a scripted sequence.
>>585625479My bad I was talking about single player, not MP. How is HCAA boat for like mission 28-30
>>585659104It don't make sense why they left it out 5, 9 & 6 all track wingmen kills. Unless the answer is we don't want the player to notice Tasha is very bloodthirsty and has more kills than Noise and Prof combindedAnd have a cold bug, that guy standing on the side of the ship has to be almost frozen by the end of the day.
>>585659450Hello anon from the future, what's Ace Combat 9's gimmick? Do we get to play as mercenaries again? Is the XFA-27 in it?
>>585657531Just SASM. 4AAMs are pretty mediocre missiles, even for farming AI, and you don't get much ammo with 2 SPWs. While HCAA is alright, I think I've had more success in general use with standards stacked with homing parts and the MSL ability. SASMs are more of a jousting or in your face missiles so homing isn't nearly as important for them as damage radius parts.
>>585659634The gimmick? Nothing fancy just lots of explosions and missiles, missiles everywhere missiles that fire missiles that fire more missiles that fire yet more missiles.Not only is the XFA-27 in it she is also the games cover plane
AC9's gimmick should be fully destructable buildings.I played Expo City earlier today, and I was thinking how you could contribute to the city's destruction more with bombs and such. Maybe even have levels where you are penalized for such collateral damage (or rewarded).
If anything of you care about the Infinity fan revival, looks like the guys running it are working on backporting emblems from 8 to it.
>>585660304I wish my PC could run it...Shame they stopped selling consumer GPUs after 2029
>>585660727>Superplane slopfest
>>585653930Nah, they're mainly on twitter talking about how mature PW's story is.
What do PW fans do that's so annoying? I'm being honest here, I've never interacted with them so I don't know and can only assume they say AC isn't good or something.
>>585661353Is there even such a thing as a "PW Fan"? There's a complete overlap between AC and PW players
ac9
>>585655624Don't "grind" planesJust focus on a couple of medals and do the campaign again.You'll have all planes and mods way before you finish all the medals. At the half of the third campaign IIRC
Listen, I know it was PS2. But this almost looks so bad I'm assuming it's bugged.
>>585661568Yeah it is the textures didn't load correctlyPCSX2 or the official port?
>>585661568it's not supposed to look like that
>>585661690Steam version.
>test pilot that flies her plane better than any of the gemma nuggets>one of the youngest aces in the assault records (there's like 5-6 27 year olds, and 2 26 year olds)>immediately beelines to expo city to tardwrangle mavisimen, arrives within minutes of the trainees entering combatThis girl's pretty cool. Also I love how PA used game mechanics to emphasize that Gemma were a bunch of shitters.>all have really basic flight patterns>worth less points than any other plane besides cold war birds>gemma nuggets are used as the cannon fodder "filler" planes in the third phase of rocky island 2; previous phases used mig-29As as the filler planes>all gemmas fail to survive/bail out, auto-eject system fails them>playable games are so good they're post-game unlocks>game/barricader aces both manage to survive/bail out, implying manual ejection is literally just a skill issueI know Aces at War describes the Game's flight system as limiting for skilled pilots, but these idiots couldn't even clear the skill floor even with noob bonuses and bowling lane bumpers enabled.
>>585661568Even PS1 games didn't look that bad bro', its borked.
>>585661483>Belka develops a time machine>now Strangereal's past is being invaded by Strangereal's futurehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7JoYffgFYQ
>>585661568this could just be a rendering error, but I was under the impression this was a native port and not emulation but idk, but either way yeah something looks fucked here.
Bless Kono's heart. I'm not excited to see GTA sweep all the awards, not that TGA's super relevant for Ace Combat.
>>585662641AC8 is GOTY in my heart and that's all that matters.
>>585662260>The Ace Combat 9 begins now.
Restarted the game. In Hangar. Still seems low res but not like Pixy in that cutscene.
>>585600657with the last two guesses included
>>585662149Yeah, they hadn't even been given their cadet wings yet, according to the audio, and didn't have enough ejection drills to either get the auto system rebooted or hit a manual override like the aces must have.
>>585649676I always hit the center of this fucking thing but can do the other tunnels no problem.
>>585662149>Manual piloting is dead, take that snailcaaaa-ack
>>585661772Alright, yeah its whatever emu bamco is using seems to be having trouble on steam the again it could be your PC doing weird things. Try that level again and see if renders correctly this time.>>585662397Its just like 5 was its the PS2 game bundled with Bamco's own emulator nothing more
>>585652638Is 15 any good? You can kill them really fast once you know how.
And in mission. Kinda seems like it might just be Pixy's plane.
>>585645518it's fun and the worldbuilding is more nonsensical than strangereal. the story is more of an excuse to drop increasingly large bombs than anything actually coherent. crimson squadron is notably yellow squadron but with better implementation, and your wingmen are fun (diplomat being the game's best character)i've only ever heard bad things about it's fanbase from this general but every one of them i talked to seems fine enough so i think /aceg/ just got psyopped by some random from /v/
>>585662641I’m guessing they are going to announce mission DLC or something>>585662890There was this list as well
Why can't we have Kalibr or something? How would the 57 even mount the french box?
>>585662969It's a pretty shit tunnel run, made all the more evident by having to do it twice. The offset pipes or beams or whatever just suck ass.
>>585662740oh~ we are the valiant air forcewe are the plane team with passion and camaraderorce
>>585663051>it could be your PC doing weird thingsWe shouldn't have to trouble shoot this kind of shit with hardware from 20 years later. I'm gonna go bananas.
GOD THIS MISSION SUCKS AS AN ATTTACKER FFUUUUUUUUU
>>585662890yeah that one probably
>the Final Countdown but Ace Combat>you go through a time rift and fight Belkan WW2 fighter planes trying to launch a naval raid against OseaWould make for a good shitpost mission.
>>585662860That looks like it should that is about the limit you can upscale the game too.
>>585661353>>585661427We had a guy throwing an absolute melty about PW a few weeks before AC8 came out, I'm operating under the assumption this is some weird shitposting/baitposting/whateverthefuckposting
Also if that bitch -1 my Flanker that I gave her I'm gonna lose my fucking mind.
>>585659634You get a new game + tier superplane during the campaign but if you use it in a specific (very difficult) mission, it eats your brain and you get the bad ending where you're forced to shoot down your allies. You can try to jerk the controls away, but your inputs get progressively weaker as the plane's AI takes over. Followed by V2 or something idk.
>>585663457>every time you play the final mission it deletes your entire aircraft tree because jenkins threw your planes overboard
i need them
>>585663501Also should add there are narrative warnings not to use the god skynet plane in prior missions, and the game's thematics also discourage it.
>>585662740>> << You made it out alive. >>>> << Do you have any idea how relieved I am? >>>> << And you were on the front lines the whole time? I can't believe you survived. >>did they ever explain why they brought back baxter? I thought he died in AC8
>>585663457your purchased plane count is unaffecteddo not insult Kate
>>585663170That's Kh-69 anon, it's what the Felon carries in real life. Kalibr can't be carried by fighters afaik.
>>585663321Fullback should do well enough, UGBLs delete everything and the supply line lets you swap to HCAAs for the mission update. Bully the Gripens first to keep the ground troops happy while you take your time with the Shadows, get some gun practice in because the downward angle makes Toprak's crew even more annoying.
>>585663570Drunken unprotected sexo with both of them.
>>585662149>limiting for good pilotsThey could've sold this in gameplay somehow. Like not letting it PSM.
Stop making square cruise missiles
>>585663783
Stop calling them cruise missiles. They are hypersonic drones.
>>585663606He was the loadbearing pillar all of Strangereal was built upon, apparently.
>>585663570Where did the Terminator name come from for the Su-37? Earliest source I'm aware of for it is Ace Combat 5.
>>585663907Like the EDF 5 tutorial dude who knew the code for Barga's elevator.
>>585661690>>585661756>>585662179>>585662397Lmao nah, I'm being gaslit. The textures are just as blurry back on the PS2.
>>585664071Pretty much. I do wish I had the patience for EDF, it seems like such a batshit insane experience but that kind of coop horde stuff is just not my thing.
>>585663606><<Separatists? More like traitors wagging their tails for Sotoa.>>
>>585663570I need to have sex with a woman with a fat pussy
>>585663831I don't take advice from fratricidal losers.
>>585664279I felt like I was going insane hearing this dialogue because I swear he sometimes says it twice almost back to back in mission 15
>>585664105And here it is on PCSX2.
>>585663969Allegedly the 1996 Farnborough Airshow, of which it was in attendance. Apparently an invention of the British press.
>>585664419I think it says it in an early mission and then says it again in 15.
>>585664259Do you have friends?
>>585664479So basically the Bradley's nickname but airplane.
>>585664419>>585664480There's a handful of straight up reused dialogue beyond the usual reused combat lined. The Baxter ones are especially noticeable.
>>585664279Tasha also has a couple lines repeat. Must've been last minute JP dialogue additions they didn't have time to change to US so they just chopped similar ones out and pasted them there.Anyone that can speak Japanese that can confirm if those repeated lines are unique in JP?
>>585664598Maybe it's just a generic line Baxter is intended to say when fighting Separatists?
>>585664458You computer is fugged.
>>585664105>>585664458it was meant for 4:3 480p displays, idk what you expected. the native ps2 blur makes it look more natural, had Bamco decided to remaster the textures too, then it would have looked nicer on higher resolution displays, but this is just a preorder bonus anon.
>>585662904>or hit a manual override like the aces must haveJesus Christ, when I worked on 16 as a mechanic they hammer into us to check to see if the ejection pin is in and don't fuck with the big pull handle near your dick because it's easy as fuck to accidently cause an ejection. What kind of Resident Evil puzzle solving do you have to do to get out of the Game
>>585664598Not what you're talking about, but for me it's the nonstop "more UAVs" chant on Arsenal Bird when people are using SASM/MPBM to spawn camp them.
>>585664610When I played with JP audio I noticed some of the subtitles were different than what EN audio showed. I don't have any screenshots/video but Coster's reaction to major garnett on the white valley base mission was unique.
>>585663321Fuck those constantly spawning SAMs
>>5856649164chan captchas
>>585663570BerCUTE
>>585664549I mean I do but they're generally uninterested in horde shooters unless it's fucking Space Marine 2 or COD Zombies. But I'm also in a very multiplayer avoidant mood, too much single player stuff I want to finish. I tolerate ACO just because the individual matches are like 10 minutes at most.>>585664927Some of the MP lines do give me flashbacks of LAWNCH NIMBAWS and AWOCKS HEAVEE CLOWD.
>>585665240>Some of the MP lines do give me flashbacks of LAWNCH NIMBAWS and AWOCKS HEAVEE CLOWD.sovl...
>>585664870I expected about as much as this, and it doesn't bother me. But everyone saying "nah it's broken" when I questioned it made me go looking. Just reporting back. Nostalgia has blinded you all! Still having fun.
>>585665240>I tolerate ACO just because the individual matches are like 10 minutes at most.I'm gonna sound like a shill, but this was the only reason why I didn't refund the recent DoDonPachi game because the multiplayer was quick and retardedly fun.
>>585665326Shit definitely looked better in my memories. Sorry for doubting you.
>>585664916Yeah, ejection is taught very early with extreme repetition, cycles and cycles of your punch out procedure. Even halfway through you can do it in your sleep.
Its pretty lame some of these enemy units are MP exclusive, they really need to up the variety when it comes to grunt units in SP.
Maybe a cyberpunk future ace combat isn't so bad when you aren't a faggot ghost that doesn't exist.
>>585665240>>585665290We need to go back to this with AC9. Have your AWACS be AI enhanced and it gets hit with a lightning strike or something and the voice gets garbled and starts saying things slightly wrong for the entire rest of the game.
>>585662890>>585663169>There was this list as welladded
>>585665734>AI AWACS was working for the enemy the entire time>the lightning strike glitches reveal parts of its true nature
>>585665798I'm kind of surprised that there are essentially 3 Trigger skins in a row.They should've made that F-15C a Cipher skin.
>>585665521>>585665326honestly they still look good all things considered, but standards and expectations have just gotten way higher and AC8 just looks insanely good. but when you put these old ass games at higher resolutions and add a bunch of modern niceties to remove the blurring and stuff, it's gonna open up the curtains to a lot of stuff that was hidden in plain sight.I'm assuming there are fan remastered textures for some of the games? I don't really care because I like the look of old games, although the cockpit camera can be pretty tight for my liking so a wider fov is nicer for some older games, particularly console fps titles.
>>585665601Are these UGSF references?
>>585665798Good job, but you used an F-5 Razgriz for the F-5 Wardog
>>585665818>it actually switches sides>wants to understand friendship>sacrifices itself to save the entire squadron, wings snapping upward as the hull blows out
>>585666047aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaI will fix it
>>585665601Why weren't these in the campaign? Too difficult for the average nugget?
>>585665798>CFA-44Is that from 6? Need to et around to playing that cuz that looks great
>>585666175I think because the FCU is too poor and Sotoa uses landships and captured FCU equipment instead.
Jokers rape when they're in F-15C's 4AAM & SASM pure A2A loadout those Ladon bombers melted. Interestingly enough Cover lets them keep up with you and the bombers but if you order them to attack they slow way down.
>>585665798>>585666047fixed>>585666252yephonestly, I still think that AC6 has the best gameplay in the series
I feel like you could make a good Ace Combat story around Project PACER (using micro-nukes to boil water and generate power) and Project Orion (using micro-nukes to propel a ship into space)>hey Nordennavic, IUN here, why are you guys mining so much urani->...>YOU BUILT EIGHTY THOUSAND WARHEADS??!!
>>585665983They strike me as Antlion precursors.
>>585665601Aren't these the heavy howitzers? I'm certain they're in the campaign.
>>585665484>spoilerSee I think that's become the thing that decides whether I like a multiplayer game nowadays, short and fun appeals to me more than long sessions. Although that also has the caveat of not having a super high skill floor which I'd assume a shmup's multiplayer mode has. Basically I just don't want online modes that exist to be time vampires. I actually have a job now, I don't need another one lol.>>585665601Aesthetically this and the siege tank look kinda like the Sotoan weapons do so it almost makes me wonder if they were cut from the campaign.
>>585666615No, heavy howitzers are online onlySP only has regular self propelled arty
Any conflict can be easily resolved with the right cuisine.
Is the m24 survivors randomized?
>>585666652These were in Siege on Silvat in AC6 and Siege of Farbanti in AC04. They look really low poly even for ground units in AC8, I wonder if they just ported them over and didn't update their visuals.
>>585666790It's the Colonel!
>>585666790>Longcaster's slashfic devolves into his food obsession once again
>>585666652>Tanks from WW2Based
>>585666815No, the ones that get wiped are always the same.
Lmao. Unrelatedly, I've noticed when I have to retry a mission my distance/speed measurements change from metric to imperial. Weird bug.
>>585666790>That one surviving ace is currently screaming and shitting himself
>>585666869I don't recall seeing these in either of those levels.
>>585667204Told you you were bugged. Now you gotta figure out what it is.
>>585667185In campaign i got the awwnb guy that i dont remember getting in free mission
>>585667212"Don't worry, they're buffalo wings."
>>585667331Yeah the free missions assume all worst choices happen, so you always get more/extra stuff in campaign. Kinda sucks.
>>585667212That dude's also pretty young, he's either 26 or 27. I would've wished that sort of crippling PTSD on some shithead fuck like Toprak, not some kid.Oh well. A Soat's a Soat.
The aces that survive and become investment bankers are weird. Implies Sotoa has a functional economy after the war.
>love the blue f-2 paint scheme>it's slow and shitVery annoying.
So am I the only one thinking the fact Galaga's in the Online arcade is a little wink at the Strangereal-UGSF connection? Could be just sheer coincidence, but if picrel is to be believed, and it was last updated in 2025, I think Bamco might still think of Ace Combat as a prequel to all their space shmups.
>>585667332>buffalo wings>wingsWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGS
>>585667706It has Galaga because Galaga is fucking awesome.
>>585667706Maybe, but i think if it were it'd be a lot more clearly acknowledged, as it is, it's got the same prominence as Pac-Man in the arcade, and that's not connected at all.
>>585666787Weird. Not sure why I remember seeing them in the campaign.
>>585667658Sotoa basically gets away with everything at the end, at least until Yuktobania annexes them in a few months/years
>>585667778>chicken sound>flapping noise>"Is that a... no... that's impossible! IT'S A BIRD! I'M GOING MAD!"
>>585666790Should I do Colonel Sanders (Gold Ship) for Halloween?
>>585667908They fucked up the space elevator, war reparations from that alone is going to bankrupt them.
>the space elevator had to get fucked up in order to do the Baxter Royal Space Force mission>but also it being fucked up might be permanent, and explain why it's not mentioned in 3
>>585667952Hey. What's the name of that cat?
>>585668053More like it didn't exist when 3 was made almost 30 years ago
>>585667298You find me an image where Pixy doesn't look like this and I'll believe you. But everything I saw he looks like piss.
>>5856680533 is going to get remade to fit with the modern strangereal canon
>>585668127Usea was only introduced as a non-Earth continent in 4 and the rest of world was created in 5.Usea stands for United States of Eur-Asia
>>585667658>>585667908Sotoan civvies cheering "w-we love the Wings of Theve! yeah!!" on the final mission after their country basically wiped several cities off the map with (equivalent to) dozens of tactical nukes, invaded territory of neutral countries, damaged the space elevator, refused all attempts of diplomacy up until the very end, etc feels insanely unearned. It's like Bibi saying "yeah I love Palestine, Hamas is the greatest!" after they run out of interceptors for the iron dome.
>>585667672It's not that bad. It flies worse than Fullback but not by a lot (and if you can stay low enough for the low altitude ability to work then the difference is even smaller) and it gets LASMs which are good on maps with ships. You can definitely make it work if you want.Does suck that it's right at the bottom of mid tier so it has the worst stats possible while still costing 30 gold blueprints instead of 10 though. Also it'd be way better if it got generic surface damage ability instead of the specific missile damage vs ships one.
>>585667846Shadow Labyrinth is part of the USGF, so Pac-Man is related
>>585668131Why would I lie? Here you go.
>>585668176Genuinely a good thing. The branching paths were awesome but the overarching story about some loser killing an AI copy of his cucker to kill is so fucking lame.
>>585668312Yea I appreciate the anti-ship focus but it's very niche.
>>585668125Nomadman.
>>585668053Some of you guys have to stop trying so hard to connect 3 to current Ace Combat
>>585668647they really dont even need to try when PA out and out says its part of the mainline continuity
>>585668259It's a great moment but yeah fucking Soat thinks he's on the team
>>585668259Their actual citizenry didn't want any of this stupid shit war. It was entirely their nobility that pushed for it. You can see that in the dialogue of any non-Shadow ace squadron, especially Ventus.
>>585668769So wait until 3 is either remastered or remade right now all you're doing is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole
>>585668853yet none of the Sotoan folks ever spoke up or rebel against their warcriming military?
>>585668895Nah, they're hypothesizing and speculating, which is literally all we do here once the hype of a new game dies down.
>>585668365I expect this to be a mod for 8. Get to work.
>>585668853>You can see that in the dialogue of any non-Shadow ace squadron, especially Ventus.Plenty of now Shadows were chomping at the bit for conquest look at Gemma squadron, the Land Battleship captains all the countless footsoldiers we wipe out ect.
>>585668853Ventus mentioned.
>>585668895Why are you pissing yourself over it?
>>585668978Same could be said for Amerimutts but here we are
I was thinking of getting Su25, how much gold mats does it need? 10 or 30?
>>585668978Why do you think that is?
>>585668978No, because they're locked in a caste system. Royalty, then nobility, then multiple castes of citizenry. They don't get military training or anything, you start a protest or a mob and you get snuffed out. It's extremely hard to overturn that kind of system from within.
>>585668895not that anon, but its fairly obvious that the broad strokes of AC3world are locked in (corporations gaining power on par with nationstates, the neo-united nations playing mediator between said corporate powers, the DOE project, ENSI tech, dataswallow, usea needing to be rebuilt from a clean slate)the only contentious aspect is the finer details such as various characters, dataswallow being a regular OS instead of some full braindive VR thing
>>585669143O B S E S S E DBSESSED
>>585669143to be fair Osea is huge with a lot of differing opinions and sometimes the dumbest one is the loudest, Sotoa is miniscule and I don't think it's hard to share the same mindset there.
>>585669034>picrelAw man :( do I have to shoot down Ventus squadron?
>>585669165That's a funny way of spelling the Fullback
>>58566916510
>>585669025Come on, easily manipulated nuggets and officers playing at nobility aren't citizenry. I'll grant you a chunk might've drank the kool-aid, but it was clear through all the interactions and news broadcasts that their civilians weren't pushing for it.
>>585669313No.
>>585669313>do I have to shoot down Ventus squadron?There's actually different endings to that mission depending on who you shot down or not. Its pretty nice.
>>585669313Nope.
On that note, what was up with all the LARP? Why did the nobles pretend to be shepherds n shit? Shadow 22 talking about skinning a sheep is hilarious in retrospect 'cause there's a very good chance he's never seen one in front of him at all.
>>585669326already got him, I just need a raid soloer, in case of braindead teammates>>585669396nice, guess I'll buy
>>585669573>/aceg/ retards still don't know you can bomb the barrel from the outside
>>585669165
>>585669564technically he did see them in Rio Bajo
>>585669502>>585669501>>585669519Oh nice :) the nuggies were annoying tho, they needed fox 2 correction. But next playthrough I'll spare them all and see what happens.
>>585669564What I'm wondering is whether Sotoan society operates on a caste system where the nobles can LARP whatever they want and the serfs are the ones doing the hard work.
>>585669651Is EA36 still worth the materials post-nerf?
>>585669715
>>585669668Lmao fair. Most likely his first time too.
>>585666790
>>585669564It's a good representation of how kingdoms and dictatorships act. Nobility in name only, cruel and capricious in action. They show that in the prologue by having 22 shoot down one of his own team, and again when he pops parachutes. That's also why they juxtapose them with Ventus, as they may not be nobility but their actions are. Telling the nuggets to retreat, then putting themselves between them and certain death.
>>585669816>and not just the veterans... but the nuggets... and that woman too....
>>585669795The patch hasn't happened yet.EW is currently 26 seconds up 16 seconds down. Personally I don't see them going less than a 50% uptime but we'll see
>>585670043
>>585667672It sucks because it is so much more agile in zero like an honorary f-16 should be
>>585670059dammit, I want to raise it already, guess I'll wait a bit and work on SU34 first.
is there any mascot that has topped the Spook?
>finish 8>boot up zero>there is in fact a cheevo for ultimate soldierOh god how horrifying
All this talk about your splashing choices changing how missions turns out makes me think they're internally workshopping an AC0 "style"-based route approach for AC9. If AC7 is a modernized AC4, and AC8 is 5's successor, then AC9 might also be the "new AC0", but before that it also has to be the "new AC3". And what do 0 and 3 have in common? Routes ofc. Guaranteed this is them testing the waters for a route system based on kills.
>>585669564>what was up with all the LARP? Why did the nobles pretend to be shepherds n shit? >what was up with all the LARPThey're all incredibly insecure RETVRN faggots, they've always been pretty divorced from their actual culture as the ruling class but since they had a slide into fascism they need to do the whole LARP to give themselves legitimacy and cache with the commoners. Cope calls Tewy and Toprak out at least twice about this and it's great, he's a real Son of a Shepard
>>585669873This is just a worse version of the Alicorn meal from a few years ago
>>585670350>world's largest distributor of MiG partseternally based
>>585670441It's hilarious that the Land Battleships just straight up drove into Erusea to yoink Stonehenge guns for their own purposes and nobody could be arsed to stop them
>>585668647I will when PA stops.We are going to get straight AC3. All signs indicate it's happening, and there are zero contradictions.
>>585669651why is 21 specifically goes to mid tier? Is it busted or something?
>>585669034reminds me of another AC...
>>585670681I assume because it has QAAMs
>>585670874One hundred million. Done.
wotintarnation
>>585670931poor lad getting fucked over by something that is only useful in PvP
I like Dealer but his poker theme doesn't work
>>585671010They fly now
>>585671010I mean, you saw this already back in Theve, what do you expect?
>>585671017I really hate it when they have lines that are referencing games but not card games. There isn't even a dealer in some of them.
>>585671017Should have been a full gambling theme some Blackjack quips would have been nice
>>585671010Remember when Land Battleship 1 fired its thrusters to try to right itself?cute Gripen
>>585670021Whats the over/under on Topkek popping that guy at the start so he could pretend Cope was actually dangerous?
I dunno if it has been discussed before, or if the manager of the team is in this thread, but how would you modify the /aceg/ divegrass roster to accommodate 8 memes?https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//aceg/We gotta kick old players out, though.One thought I had was to rename "Stonehenge" to "<<Railgun Warning>>", without actually changing the image. Two memes in one.Otherwise, some possible players I thought of might be>Gemma Nuggets ("Total Nomad Death?", with a FA-36 Game image?)>Baxter?>Sotoan Air Fryer>Topkek>FCU Sheep (for headbutt jokes)I'm not suggesting all of these, just brainstorming.
>>585671104>>585671140I like the implication that the Land BB thrusters are to correct itself over obstacles and yet the guy in command of the first one still plunged into shit like a chimp
V-22n't
We're never getting it, are we?
>>585671352they are probably running low on fuel and resources after fucking up purple magic and that thruster is probably not fuel friendly if it's capable of lifting something that huge up, it's a last ditch efforf
>>585671559>Eurotrash in a Lockhead/MIG/Sukhoi simulator
>>585671559I really love that huge vertical stab
>>585671352they're for hot-dropping from Podarge transports which is what is on display here >>585671010. these are land aegises doing it in mission 25
>>585671718Yeah except the BB needs to be carried in chunks so it pretty obviously isn't for that
>>585671140That was basically angry swerwing with the steering wheel while stepping on the gas and not a controlled hotdrop.
>>585671780No one in this general plays the game
>>585671780...two podarges.also, I think that was more because they needed parts to complete #3 and splitting it up was their best shot at making it without interception? dunno.
>>585671921If they need like six of the fuckers to lug a land battleship across the air what makes you think one can carry an entire ship
>>585671780Celaeno could maybe do it in one piece?
>>585671343I think a Cope player just named LARP LARP LARP LARP would be funny
>>585671718>they're for hot-dropping from Podarge transports which is what is on display here>When you take out the lead Podarge and it crashes into the following one netting you like 20K points in one go>>585672013It's for the smaller Aegises which are like hot wheels next to the LBs
>>585672013because thats what debra wilson tells you in the briefing for that mission, just letting one podarge slip through means they be able to complete landbattleship 3
>>585672013cope that the podarge emergency sortie in the files is a cool mission
>>585672078>It's for the smaller Aegises which are like hot wheels next to the LBsWe're talking exclusively about the BB dummy
>>585672072he should be Cope and Theve thoughtbeit
Aces at War fag here. Managed to get my hands on a proper business-grade scanner so I'll be able to redo my camscans over the next couple weeks. 600 DPI spits out 5k x 6k jpgs at ~10-20 MB per image, but takes like 5 minutes per page. If there's any particular sections anons want in higher quality I can prioritize those.For the nerds it's an Epson V600 flatbed, a CCD scanner since I've collected a number of artbooks over the years and ye olde scanlation guides recommend CCD scanners for better colors than the cheaper/more common things you'd find in printers. Sucks that all the supply chain shenanigans in the past couple years have made them all expensive, the current model goes for $2000 new these days when apparently V600s and V700s used to go for $200-$300. Alternative manufacturer's CCDs also go for $400 and up.
>>585671424There should have been a hint that tewy and enso sabotaged it with maybe a bomb or something
>Why yes a Podarge can totally carry a ship that's both larger than it and probably way heavier>This is why one needs to be carried in chunks and assembled on site, of course>And why the other two needed to boat themselves across the oceanFrankly judging by the reactions over comms on Rocky Island even airdropping the smaller ones seemed like a new thing the FCU were just figuring out.
Something something 3D printers.
>>585672462They outright say it if you let it go
>>585672313Based, thank you for your service.
>>585672498A quick wiki check proved me wrong, anyway. it is for rough terrain cause they're big, I rule of cool'd myself into believing otherwise because I wanted a land BB hotdrop
>>585672462>>585672589It's also said outright towards the end of the game, when DD plays various intercepted communications for us.
It genuinely feels like most of you play these games in a coma
>>585672913Wdym?
>>585672313Thank you anon
Replaying the game, and I just noticed that the Sotoan Captain you meet when you're shot down is the same one who later fights you in the superplane.
>>585673041Say Wallahi bro
>>585672313>If there's any particular sections anons want in higher quality I can prioritize those.1. any maps2. Kate
>>585673090If I am lying, may Allah beat me for my insolence with a worn out shoe.
>>585673041which one? wasnt there two?
>>585673041Put the phone down and pay attention
>>585671559They eventually patched it into Infinity. If AC8 multiplayer lasts long enough (hahahahaha) they might run out of other planes to add in updates and be forced to go for it again.
>>585673212No, only one I think.
>>585672313>If there's any particular sections anons want in higher quality I can prioritize thoseAnything on General Resource, Darkness of Enigma, Yoko, Simon, Dision, COFFINs, DataSwallow, etc. please. Basically anything related to AC3. Thanks anon :)
>>585673274I wonder if they'll manage to turn AC:O around. Would be nice, even if I kinda doubt it
This game is so fucking pretty. I have like a dozen screenshots from this low-flying section alone.Celaeno was a pretty cool fight too with great music. The shield drones from the Alicorn made it more interesting than just fly behind it and spam XMAAs like the Arkbird and Arsenal Bird
>>585672913>>585673041For me it's the people who actually think Bandog marking Full Band as an enemy wasn't on purpose.
>>585673421I have some problems with the Celaeno fight.Yeah, it is a big boss fight where you are supposed to wail on it, but there's nothing clever about it. Like with the Podarges you can discover you can attack the cargo directly and destroy it that way. With the Calaeno, there doesn't seem to be anything. I tried taking out its radar to see if that changed anything, and no. It doesn't.
>>585671343Baxter's goalhorn should be the Remove Kebab instrumental.
I want to believe trigger is one of the fort grays bunker dwellers, who said "not my problem" and spends all day being the alex jones of strangereal calling out the wings of theve conspiracy
>>585650153The F-18 is robust but actually pretty reasonably sized. I even got to play with a functioning FLIR pod in the back seat once.The F-111, now that's a huge bitch.
afuckingramp
>>585674096their economy relies on mercs like them, please understand
>>585674096Honestly? Ramps suit mercs without nuclear power.It's when the ramp belongs to a supposed superpower or regional power that it's embarrassing.
>>585662641We should at least have a solid shot at Best Soundtrack and a nomination for GOTY so that we get in that orchestra. If Fire Emblem makes it there, I think Hortus Regis Alti would segue quite nicely with that game's theme.
>>585674096Imagine how much bank Yuktobania is making from exporting Kuznetsov and Kirov classes to everybody
>>585674194>and a nomination for GOTYNomination is the best we'll get though since they changed the cutoff so GTA VI could be eligible for this year. These award shows are a complete fucking joke.
>>585674096Is Savia even an actual country? They must be poor as fuck.
I'm going to an airshow next week. what am i expecting
It's gonna be a GTA sweep, and I hope that's the final straw for people at long last.Fuck GTA, really. Do we really need another game where NPCs talk at you while you drive around for a half hour before anything interesting happens?
>>585674317their economy relies on mercs like them, which honestly in strangereal should probably make them like 2nd richest behind belka/weapons manufacturers
>>585674390Very loud and you'll see some shit that will make you go "Jesus Christ he's going to crash".
>>585674390It's gonna be a lot louder than you imagine
>caring about Dorito Pope's Gaming Industry CirclejerkI don't even care about the trailers, I just wait for anything interesting to be uploaded later.
>>585674390
>>585674540I'd imagine even without the big wars, there are conflicts happening everywhere in Strangereal with separatists and such. That's where mercs come in.
>>585674617I'M GOING TO GET RAPED BY AN F-22?
>>585674690Bring lube and earplugs.
>>585674390Don't forget your sunblock, shades, and waterDon't bother taking pictures if you don't have a real camera; they'll turn out shitDo you know who's flying?
>>585674194I expect a GTA sweep, similar to the other anon. Them changing cutoff dates just to fit in GTA 6 for this year while hype is still at its peak is sketchy as fuck. The game releases on November 19th so it'll have been out for less than a month before going up to bat for awards.
podargehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-2dfEc70gU&pp=ygUGdHUgMTk1
Just played Ace Combat 3 for the first time and this game kind of sucks The next game is gonna go in electrosphere territory right?
>>585674580>gamejournos state their opinions on their websiteObviously I don't care about what gamejournos think.>gamejournos state their opinions at a live eventHoly shiiiiiiiiiiit this is incredible I'm so hype to hear what games they like!People are weird.
>>585671343>FCU SheepNah, instead make Rex a player but have a sheep model right behind him so it looks like it's chasing him.
>>585674805https://texascapitalairshow.comIs the one I'm going to. I'm ahead of schedule at work, so I'm not working the next few weekends. Figured I'd treat myself. This'll be my first time going to one, so I'm excited.
>>585674847I'm sorry you think that, AC3's my favorite of the series. Wait, are you playing the goddamn international/English version?
>>585674096CATOBAR is for thrustlets
>>585674194With GTA6 hiring big-name musicians for its soundtrack, I'm afraid AC8 couldn't even crack it this time. The sheer hype of that game would overshadow everything and Rockstar is trying to cover all the angles.
>>585674847Yeah the setting/writing is cool but the game isn't fun to play. I like the idea of different routes allowing you to play missions from the other side (attack the base/defend the base) but it's still not fun to play.I have no idea what the next game will be like. The devs are obviously into it which is why they put so many references to 3 in 7/8, but a lot of players would be turned off by the game being super sci fi.
>>585674945Not the most amazing lineup but pretty good. F-22 always puts on a good show. You'll have a good time.
>>585674981no im playing the translated version, the story is interesting but I bounced off how planes felt.
>>585675038Nobody tell this nigga Ace Combat is a Galaga prequel (canon)
>>585674995>needs to borrow bdf awacs because his loser country doesn't have one of its own
>>585674897kekput a semi-transparent cope riding on top of the sheep too
>>585674390Depends entirely on where you are. Likely mild disappointment unless there's a specific plane or crew you're looking for. They aren't allowed to fly over the crowd anymore, much less buzz it, so they kinda suck now. Still good to see some stunts in biplanes and WW2 reenactments with gooney birds. Also extremely mid food that costs more than a gourmet meal. Mountains of tchotchkes, some expensive stuff like buildable model planes and wooden statues, a bazillion trucker hats, uhhh... what else... oh, if it's at a place with a museum or resto shop you'll be hounded by volunteers to donate, you should only do so if the people working there are also volunteers. If you're gonna be parking in a big open field and watching from next to your car, get there like 20mins early for a good spot, the downside is you'll have to wander around for a half hour afterwards while you wait for everyone else to leave. Good time to peruse the merchandise. If you're parking elsewhere and walking to stands then it doesn't matter as much as the spacing is way smaller.
>>585674945Don't know most of them but I've seen an F-22 perform before. They're great, you'll love it.
You know, the stupid shit with the refueling drones was such a half-assed thing. What was enso even thinking with that? What was their plan there? There was no way that was gunna kill Rex and Baxter.
>>585675284It was story-wise a convoluted reason to meet Moon 11 and Topkek (and have a canyon run).But yeah, maybe something bad could have happened while Rex and Baxter were gone and then Enso Order would be all "just as planned".
>>585674435Normalfags fucking love that shit man. It's like Madden and FIFA combined for the goycattle.
>>585675284Surely it would be easier to, I dunno, tamper with the flight control system and make the plane crash with the press of a button? Or just stick a bomb in the plane somewhere?>>585675208Did you know the 57mm proxy fuses on missiles? Fun way to close the gap with a destroyer
>>585675284>Enso>ThinkingTurns out a decentralized organization isn't great at coming up with cohesive plans at the lower levels.
>>585675420The online is. I can't imagine the actual campaign is though. I tried playing Red Dead Redemption 1 and I could get past the first few missions because it was just "go to location, be talked at, get told to go to another location, be talked at again". When do I get to be a cowboy?
does cost do anything in onlinecan i upgrade my shitter f4 so i can hang with the big boys or am i always going to be handicapped compared to newer plens
>>585675493Higher cost means you give the enemy more points when they kill you, and your respawn timer is longer. These downsides are obviously negated by just not dying.There's also the TDM rotation which has a cost ceiling. You can check one of the news posts in game for the exact scheduleAn upgraded F-4 is really solid, and it's not even expensive to upgrade.As a rule, always max out your planefu first though
>>585654982>Trigger killing Harling then saving the world>the Razgriz Files in 2020>the "Wings is a fraud" reveal followed by the "Wings is real" revealSounds awesome.
>>585675709thank you anon
>>585674194>We should at least have a solid shot at Best SoundtrackIf only AC8's soundtrack weren't one of the worst in the series.
>>585654982Osea nuked Expo City.
>>585675792I missed this episodeWhat would her theme song be?
>>585675792I literally cried listening to As One the other day, so you must be one of those soulless golems or something. It's OK, some humans (not "people") are born without souls.
>>585676017>cried listening to generic "le whole world is one :3" shitim sorry for you
>>585622758He probably retired, his dialouge in the last mission give me big "im done with this shit" energy
>>585675721>the Razgriz Files in 2020I bet that Osea went back on releasing those.Delayed at first because of the blackout happening a month earlier, and then that delay just became indefinite because of "security reasons" or something.At the time when they were supposed to release those files, they had just lost a ton of forces in the Lighthouse War, and now their global surveillance and communications infrastructure that allowed them to be a superpower and project power around the world is gone because of the blackout. I could see them releasing the files if they felt secure in their position in the world, like they did right after AC5 -- but not in 2020, when their position is more insecure than it's been in probably most of a century. That's not the kind of time when they'd want to release a bunch of files to the world about how vulnerable and infiltrated and out-of-control their own government and military very recently were (and maybe still are to some extent).Spies finally smuggling out some damning information from those files years later could be a neat way to kick off another conflict for a future Ace Combat game.
>>585676064I'm genuinely sorry you lack a soul.
>>585676064this>>585676017>>585676318it's okay anon, you'll graduate from high school one day
>>585675492>When do I get to be a cowboy?The story is about being a cowboy and there's even side missions where you literally herd cattle, you can do most of it as soon as the prologue is done. Once you get to Mexico which is about 1/3 of the story you also have access to the entire map and all the random bullshit open world busywork. Did we play the same fucking game? It's not like GTA 5 where you have to play nearly the entire story just to have enough stuff unlocked to have fun.
>>585676318for me it was blue sky home hearing purple magics last momentsi think that is probably the highlight of the game for me
>>585675792>bocchi the reddit image>most subhuman opinion possiblelike clockwork
>>585676387The issue isn't "the game 'never' lets you be a cowboy", it's the fundamental gameplay loop that Rockstar has is listening to NPCs yap until finally at long last the game lets you do what you bought the game to do.Compare that with Ace Combat, where you will be downing bombers within fifteen minutes regardless of how much yapping there is.
>>585676291I imagine Harling's death also made it less likely for the files to be publically available since he was so well loved. But it may have had the opposite effect too.Let's be perfectly honest though 5 as a story is too 'Billions must hope' themed for the Rusegriz Files to go unpublished.
>>585636918Ben Kingsley
>>585676425>bocchi the reddit imageI don't know what the fuck it is, I got it from /aceg/I'm very sorry that it wounded your delicate sensibilities, I'll make sure to post it again>most subhuman opinion possible>not falling for "we are the world"-tier tripe sung over infinitely-worse music than actual standouts from every other fucking game in this series is apparently what is "reddit" and "subhuman"and here I thought it was the opposite
>>585641671Coster is a good kid and I refuse to let you slander his name.
>>585676482I don't mind the approach in RDR specifically because they are somewhat efficient with it and I'm playing the game for the fact it's a Western story. The open world never appealed to me, which is probably why I still like RDR1 and I've never liked GTA after I turned 18. Even in the GTAs with 'good' stories, you can really tell the open world is the main draw. RDR feels like the opposite approach, although 2 definitely encourages open world fuckery more. Really I just fucking hate open worlds with very few exceptions. >Compare that with Ace Combat, where you will be downing bombers within fifteen minutes regardless of how much yapping there is.Yeah even in 8, you get right down to business in pretty short time and you can skip all the story fluff if you just wanna shove AIM-9s up some poor bomber's ass. I've come to appreciate games with a good, consistent, linear progression of some kind over the years.
>>585655987Considering how he looked before the war the bum look is honestly for the better
>>585676506>Let's be perfectly honest though 5 as a story is too 'Billions must hope' themed for the Rusegriz Files to go unpublished.sure they could go unpublishedit's related to AC5, yes, but it's a different scenario"saving the day" in a given circumstance isn't the same as "saving the world forever"it's fine for characters to resolve one crisis (which would have been a legitimate doomsday scenario if they hadn't saved everyone, and we can still recognize and appreciate that) and to then have other things still happen later on in historyotherwise, we'd be left with a setting where nothing bad could ever happen again in any given part of the world wherein previous protagonists had won or resolved some previous crisis therein a world like that, the possibilities for telling stories about combat aircraft would dry up pretty quicklyI don't want to end up playing "Ace Combat 13: Nothing But Training and Airshows"
>>585677006Yeah despite the very best effort of our various Plane Jesusae (Jesusi?), the world still ends up a dystopian sack of shit in the Electrosphere sphere.
>>585677082but without things constantly falling apart, where would we ever have any fun?
>>585677082The funny thing about Electrosphere is that as far as cyberpunk settings go it almost seems nice, for lack of a better term. This could just be a consequence of the lore changing as time goes on and only focusing on Usea, but the world is at relative peace at the start of Professor Cuckold's simulation. For all we know the other continents still have traditional governments and it's literally just Usea becoming a corporate wet dream because it's been fucked by war so much.The real horror is that all of this may have started because of cryptobros.
Ohhhhhh ohhhhhh ohhhhhhOhhhh woahhhOhh woahh ohhttps://youtu.be/kuixe4Bt1Qg
>>585675792>>585676064You are a flesh automaton. You lack the spark of life that gives you a soul. You are nothing more than a homunculus masquerading as one of us.
>>585677082That's a recurring theme it seems.Trigger saved the Lighthouse for a while, but it was still damaged in 8.Ray saved the FCU from destruction and stopped Enso Order, but corpos still took over anyway.But I think rather than being cynical, it's a recognition that even if things inevitably go to shit, life goes on and nothing is ever shit forever. As the lyrics go "And even if we lose this fight, We will emerge into the light again." Hope and heroism is stronger than cynicism and greed.
>he's still posting
>>585677219Well, we know they're gonna fall apart for good if they truly do follow through with the UGSF connection. Earth is damn near uninhabitable for humanity, and they leave for the stars, only to learn aliens are real and they're NOT happy. It's truly some Nier shit. Which is very fitting since AC3 and Drakengard were made by the same producer.
>>585677287thanks brouzoufGPT
>>585677251Also, thanks to the introducttion of the Doniphan Conglomerate, we know that at least one of the megacorps controlling Usea is morally good, or at least not outright evil.
>>585677379Also the Princess is probably going to form her own mini-megacorp since she de facto owns the Space Elevator.
>>585668259Sotoa gives me pretty big "military actually runs everything while civies just have to sit and take it" vibes, they even had rich people running tribal private armies back when cope was a kid
>>585677289>"And even if we lose this fight, We will emerge into the light again." Hope and heroism is stronger than cynicism and greed.
>>585677359My legs are OK
>>585677472No one really stops to ask what regular mongols were doing and thinking back when genghis was out conquering the world.
>>585677287DIVINE LIGHT SEVERED
>>585677472Makes senseThere's a Nomad Radio in game and it seems pretty separated from everything going on, it's likely the actual nomadic lower class isn't really involved in anything beyo d getting drafted to die away from their land.
>>585677625"glad im not one of those foreign bozos getting run over by our cool horses. time for steak and milk"
>>585677251>>585677379>>585677425Yeah I'm definitely looking forward how they'll adapt the status quo in AC3 to fit the rest of the world since it was made before Strangereal was properly established. I'm hoping we get at least one DLC missiom to get that ball rolling.
Playing 3 right now and it's the best, before the series got made into kiddie shit with the fictional setting and the mary sue pilots with the lame lame everything.Nemo>all the others
>>585654982kill yourself /pol/fag
>>585677857Anon you already posted this on /v/ and we called you a faggot child back there too.
>>585677289>Hope and heroism is stronger than cynicism and greed.
>>585677946t. sotoan
>>585677964I still think you should kill yourself, it hasn't changed. You are cancer and I wish I you would die.It's so disappointing that the series just became the kiddie marvel shit it is now.
>>585677857Lmao kill yourself faggot
>>585677857>>585678029Extremely low quality bait
>>585678090>>585678093>WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH PLANE JESUS>WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MUH C TIER MOVIE PLOTS BUT WITH PLANES>SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER>BASICALLY MADDEN BUT PLANES HAHAHHAHAHAYeah, it sucks what do you want me to say? It's embarrassing, only the biggest retards like it, so slopanime fans and /pol/tards.
>>585678206I think you need to grow up and quit being such a double Jian.
>>585678206>slopanimeBut you just AC3's the best one?Throw this retard in solitary IMMEDIATELY
no mom strangereal (lol) is serious business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the radio chatter goes this and that!!!!!!!!!!It's a shame some cool planes are tied to the rest of this garbage.
>>585678206>>585677857>anon is unironically creaming himself over a story about the world's biggest cuck taking out his frustration on a Chatbot connected to a plane
>"So we will rise above: In a world where evil is replaced by love..."when I was a really little kid, my mom had a bunch of Wee Sing cassette tapes that she would play whenever we went in the car somewhere, with nursery rhymes, and bible songs, and children's songs about hokey "let's all get along"-type shit, and songs from Disney and Barney (and weirdly also the McDonalds characters)this song reminded me of those cassettestrite and hokey and detached from realityunmoored optimism to the point of retardationnaive to the point of being infantileI just don't understand how people liked it
>>585678274There's a big difference, I said slopnime not anime.It's not bad due to it being anime, it's bad due to it being the biggest slop anime there can ever be.If you can tell the difference, well, you're stupid.>>585678272Fuck off.
>>585678353In this house, Nemo was a goddamn hero.
>>585678354>wee singyour mom made you listen to piss fetish music? no wonder you're so fucked up!!
our economy relies on mercs like us
>>585678353Nemo is the best, 3 is the best and that's the end of that.>>585678354Ace combat is disney plus planes. its pre school cartoons but with planes. In the not so distant future you might as well see planes hug and kiss for all it matters to it. It's already written like that.
Our thread relies on shitposters like us
Anon we have a new game and a new online mod, we don't need to act retarded on purpose to keep the thread alive, we can act naturally retarded in peace.
>>585678465>Ace combat is disney plus planes. its pre school cartoons but with planes.No it's fucking not. Where did this belief even come from?I swear to god I don't remember ever hearing this from anyone before AC8, but in the weeks since launch, a bunch of people are now trying to say that it's always been that way.Why? Just because you fight against bad guys and win in the end, like basically every other video game with a story in history?
I am being serious, it's such a shame that 3 is tied to the rest of the slop. 7 was the worst, but all are pretty bad. 8 is embarrassing.
Did /v/ brownoids get tired of posting on their containment board or something?
>>585678651their board relies on baiters like them
>>585678595>>585678651there are like three different things going on right now, I don't know which one you're talking about
>>585678651It is one guy being retarded for attention on both threads.
>>585678648It's not "people" it's just the DCSchizo, I recognize him from /v/
>>585678353Yeah it's kino, you're just a tool used by the biggest loser imaginable and you have no agency, a great commentary on the nature of the power fantasy and player agency in video games.
>>585678368I am going to break your fucking legs
When you play ace combat 3, you're playing something goodWhen you play ace combat 8, you're playing a disney + vtuber blend + planes meant to cater to absolute retards>>585678651See, not only is this slopper a /pol/tard but he is on a dying site "gatekeeping" a popular series and he can't take it that his disney cartoon is being called out>>585678648Of course not, I have no issues with that.It's about the ridiculous almost embarrassing tone 8 had. You can't not know what I am talking about.
>>585678757ohis this another one of those "you were better off before you learned about it" kind of things?
>>585678828Yup. Nothing is organic on fourchins.
I would call Ace combat 3, the earlier metal gear solid 2.>>585678762Great, now you get it.>>585678757What if I like DCS? Ace combat outside of 3 is a disney cartoon. But I am not him.
>>585678757>DCSchizoWhy do these people even exist?Surely soneone that loves planes enough to play a fuckinf Flightsim would understand the appeal of an Arcade-style Flight game and also the appeal of the war hero power fantasy.
I wonder if /vg/ has active mods lol
>What the?! It's firing from the rear!>It can fire missiles from the rear!>Look out Phoenix! It can fire missiles from the rear! Be careful so you don't get hit by its backwards attacks!!
>>585678938Say the n word and watch how fast you earn a 3 day ban and have your post deleted
>>585678892He doesn't, he's extremely lonely and has severe Asperger's. This is his plea for human contact.
>>585678938>>585678989I got banned for "racism" in like 6 minutes the other day.
>>585678989NOMADS
please add tejas saar
>>585679080
>>585678989Oh cool, lemme try:NOOMAAD
>>585679081Will that be worth more or less points than nugget Games?
I want to lick the sweat off of every inch of Kate's body.
>>585679028>I JUST CARE ABOUT THE GIRLS AND JERKING OFF!?This is probably Blasphemy of some kind but Kei Nagase was actually my least favorite wingman in AC5, she just way too peace-minded for me.
>>585679143based>>585679154I get itI like her the most at some points, but I see the annoyance at othersthe other wingmen hardly get any characterization, so whenever Edge does something mildly interesting I'm inclined to want to like her, but all of the "what if we just believed in peace" shit is certainly grating
>>585679154when you destroy the Arkbird and she goes "well Harling will just build another right guys"all of the wingmen in 5 are kinda retarded but there's just nothing going on up in that head of hers
Speaking of cute girls, why hasn't Ace Combat: Macross been made yet?
I still don't know what Macross is despite you guys shilling it for at least a decade on here
>>585679415Ranka a cute. Next game, maybe. 8 had a pretty big musical focus, so that combined with the social media stuff I can see some kinda propaganda idol.
>>585679468Gundam but the female characters are relevant.
>>585678870>I would call Ace combat 3, the earlier metal gear solid 2.oh great you're one of "those" people
>>585679468Take a Sotoan air fryer, add more railguns and missiles to it and put like 50 of them in a single mission.
>>585679468gundam for closet homosexuals
>>585679526Never understood this one. Even in UC there were a ton of prominent female characters.
>>585679537say it you piece of shit, but even then its a fun game, i like the gameplay of others but 3 its another beast
>>585679617Frontier is one of the most heterosexual shows I've watched in years.
>>585679468You know how Coster plays music in some missions? It's like that.
>>585679526I saw a few episodes of Gundam on Toonami when I was like 7 years old.Aside from "there are big humanoid robots in it that people pilot and fight with," I don't know anything about that, either.
This dumbass is lonely as fuck, but it's no wonder he has no friends. What a nasty little creature.
Every day I wake up unsure... of the tasks the day will bring.
>>585679868Who are you talking to? Yourself?
By the way, didn't AC7 have a "Kakarot" or something nickname? How did you get it again? I want to see if it's in 8.
I see he can't help but wearing the shoe that fits.
>>585679468tl;dr cool mecha plens fight aliens with the power of music
>>585680019https://acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Ace_Combat_7:_Skies_Unknown/NicknamesIt had "Son Goku," but I just figured that it meant something else in Japanese as opposed to being an actual DBZ reference.
>>585679468There are three core aspects to Macross. One is fantastic, one bounces between good and 'eh', and the third needs to be put down like an old dog.The first and most distinctive aspect is the Valkries themselves, starfighters with mid-flight transformation capabilities that allow them to engage in flexible combat situations. Art-wise, they are designed to make it technically feasible for all their elements to come together into both an aircraft and a humanoid shape without shortcuts.The second element is the music. This always has a major presence, and its influence on the story differs between stories. Sometimes it's simply a morale booster, sometimes it can cause a sort of mental flashbang effect against a foe that has no concept of culture, sometimes it has hypnotic underlinings planted by a rogue Vocaloid AI, and then sometimes it's literally fucking magic (and that sucks ass).The third aspect, and objectively the worst of them, is the love triangle, which is pretty much always forced as fuck and usually results in the worst possible outcome. To get the best possible balance between these three aspects while also having sweet as hell animation, I suggest Macross Plus.
>actual ironic shitposting
>>585679468
>>585680158probably just Wukong in JP
Dragon Ball themed superplane skin when? I need Falken-Goku with H(igh)TLS
>>585680516It wouldn't sell, nobody in mexico knows what ace combat is
>>585680591AC0 is spicoded
Dear PA if excalibur comes to ACO it must have a bullshit touhou mode but even more bullshit
>>585680805>Excaliburwhy that especially?
>>585681014Infinity Excalibur was able to make a touhou laser maze as one of its moves, if they bring excalibur in the better one up that, but that was an if
>>585680187For me it's Mirage.
>>585654982Just look at Baxters internet history?
>>585680805Infinity Excalibur with the AC8 flight model will filter many people, but also be very fun.
>>585676995Do you think he gets nagged by Kate to clean himself up or does she call him cute?
>>585650153The closest I've been was a air of F-15s flying extremely low over Loch Ness when I drove along the shore during a road tripI swear the fuckers weren't even 100 m above the water
excalibur is the lamest superweapon
>>585683354Gleipnir
>>585679081>india-made plen>covered in poo
>>585679081And give them to Sotoa.
>>585683458gleipnir can fly so that alone makes it cool
>>585624921It would've been fine if the fakeout cutscene wasn't right after Baxter's death..Like why the fuck did they put it there.
>>585684387To hurt you even more and make you give up hope
>>585683508Well it does leak poo...
>>585684945That cant be real...
>>585685406It was and just before a fatal accident no less.
>>585684406The problem is that I actually cared about Baxter, but I've completely written of Kate by that point.
>>585684387It's still bad even with that.She gets instant killed by one of the noob shitter pilots so that's a terrible way to (not) kill off a character.Nobody from the FCU finds her even though she's in their controlled territory, instead the mercenaries who left a week ago find her so that makes no sense.Her showing up with reinforcements is a cool moment, except why did nobody tell you she was alive? D.D calls you at the start of that mission, and instead of saying she's not dead and help is on the way he just shares some audio of Tewy and Enso talking. That's not important right now!It's completely fucked. Worst writing in the game by far. Everything else works fine but then there's this one bizarre part where it turns nonsensical.
>>585686597unless DD doesn't know about the whole deal which would make it kind of a dick move?
bake
>>585686741He has to know. He's fronting up the money for the Savians to switch sides.
Sortie immediately>>585687335>>585687335>>585687335>>585687335>>585687335
>lock in attacker first>someone else locks attacker as well>other two wingmen are migger-31>the migs start groundpounding AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
