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AC8 felt like there was meant to be more cutscenes and crew interactions. What would have anons liked to have seen? Aside from a post-game Kate tunnel runI felt there were a few missed opportunities to chill out with your squadron like listening to Purple Magic with Coster, playing some basketball with Tasha, and having a quiet drink with Baxter while discussing the Sotoan Solution.
>>585686597>Nobody from the FCU finds her even though she's in their controlled territoryThey should've drawn out how long it took for her to descend and finally crash -- at least for a minute or so, with her trying to stabilize and regain control of her failing plane like Chopper did in AC5. Just a bit of flight time as she's descending could've taken her miles out over the ocean. Then, you just have her talking over the radio about the things that she's trying as she's getting close to the water, and have it cut to static mid-sentence or something, so you don't know whether she managed to eject successfully, or whether her plane hit the water and she would've had to climb out (like we did in the prologue).Then just show a few seconds of cutscene after the mission with some SAR helicopters flying over the waves in the late afternoon, then evening, then night, and they eventually have to pull back to the Endurance.If the XO had even just mentioned all of this stuff during the debriefing -- "we've got helicopters looking for her, but it's been hours, and there's so much ocean to cover" -- even that would've worked by itself, no cutscene, just with that slightly-longer descent.That way, if she was way out in the open ocean, it makes way more sense that 1. our local forces didn't find her immediately, 2. SAR didn't find her because they had such a large area to cover, and the longer it took without finding her, the more she could've drifted, and 3. a ship's crew were the ones who found her floating out there way later.In the minds of the devs / writers, I think that they're expecting us to remember our own shootdown and ocean impact from the prologue, and think, "well, if we made it out from that situation, then she could've, too." I think they were expecting that to do basically all of the work in the players' minds, and they forgot to make the rest of the scenario more believable.
Thread lookin like an Epstein email.Anyway: MIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS
Where's the core?There's no fucking core.It's pretty hard to finish the mission if you refuse to spawn the objective.
>a fitting punishment for those who deny nature. such is the way of the world
>>585688060Man I love failing missions because the game doesn't fucking work. That's really great.
>>585687753You can write an essay on every plot hole and retarded bit of story telling in an Ace Combat game. My advice would be to save yourself a hernia and don't think about it.
>>585687410>>585688123You know what's not natural, Sotoan dog? Flying. Let me help you with that.
Is Mission 28 a stressfest or an adrenaline fest?
>>585687746I wish that we saw glimpses from other locations in the FCU -- both from our ground troops and civilians -- showing the progression of the war from a bigger picture than just the few operations that we were personally involved in. Show us what people on the ground were suffering with. Show us devastation. Show us why they hated the Sotoans. Show us a demoralized army at the start of the game, and show them actually making territorial gains and talking about wanting revenge against Sotoa later on. An OBC news clip written at a 2nd-grade level and talking to one girl in Sheepistan is NOT enough to convey this stuff.Like, by the time that we got to the battle to retake Expo City and had a bunch of FCU ground forces pressing forward against Sotoan positions with us, it really felt like they'd just materialized out of nothing. I want to have some sense of our growing forces.Last I knew, we were shoving 2,000 retarded volunteers into LCACs for a suicide mission, we played around with spaceships for a few missions, and now we suddenly have an advancing army?I'm not asking for an accompanying BBC documentary showing me starving civilians in 4K. Just 10 seconds here and there. Convey the narrative as it progresses, instead of giving us random glimpses with huge changes, or ignoring many parts of the war altogether.And I *would* ask for more scenes with the crew to get to know them better... but after that weird scene with Tasha throwing basketballs at planes and like 5 minutes of dialogue that made no fucking sense, I don't think that they can actually write what we're hoping for.Slice-of-life scenes would've been nice.But the most direly-needed scene would be one toward the beginning, showing your squadmates at least *acknowledging* Cope's death and saying that "we have to move on," "we gotta stay focused," or something, just to explain away why they didn't seem to react to his death at all.
>>585688270>>585688123Rather poetic given the Wings of Wax being a reference to Icarus
>>585688785It's actually kinda boring since most of it is just running from bomber to bomber killing them over and over. It would have been more fun if it was nonstop fighters.
FUUUUUUCK THIS MISSION GOD DAMN
>>585688238Don't think that I'm seething just because I shit out text walls.I still like the games overall, AC8 included. I just find it interesting to talk about storytelling issues like this, and to some up with new ideas for how things could've been done differently.
>>585688901Right, so dont even waste missiles on them on Veteran below, just use MG? Ok
>>585688914No I perfectly agree with everything you said anon I am just worried for your mental health as I went down the same rabbit hole you did.
>>585688908stick with the rocketsrock with the rockets
>>585688785Bore fest, killing bombers for 15m while you sit and wait for plot to happen is nlt engaging mission design
>>585688908unironically, you will come to love ityou will learn more about it on repeated playthroughsyou will return to it in free mission of your own volitionyou will get better at ityou will start to fuck around with it by using anti-ground weapons against the aerial carrier and support planesand you will have fun ___________
>>585688989I figured that out but holy fuck there's so much going on in this one, the dog fights, the AA missiles, the annoying ass engine hitboxes, once I realized the rockets were a necessity, I would switch to them mid mission once I got all the obnoxious fighters off my ass. Still fucked, it makes me feel like I'm not playing this game right compared to the other titles so far which have been tough, but this one really pushed me.>>585689089In a weird way it's fun, like Dark Souls 2, but I still have my gripes... but fun is being had. Please tell me this is as brutal as it gets, I am on hard.
>>585687753I had a similar moment towards the end of the game regarding the spears and how they work. So the Sotoans were able to spear strike Rio Bajo, well beyond the rainband, right? So why didn't they lob a spear or 2 at bases they knew the FCU remnants were operating out of. Snyder's Top, White Valley, Seals Bridge, Fort Greys. Or even Comona island after the FCU seizes it.
>>585687746>>585688798I want Generation Kill-tier bants in the future game. I know they will never deliver because natural dialogue is still hard for japanese writers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4awz4upebc
>>585688798The squad introduction works well as an introduction but makes no sense for the situation they're in.Maybe they originally intended the player to join like a month after Cope's death, have a timeskip where you're recovering from the crash or whatever.But then they scrapped that and just had the player join Joker squad like an hour after Cope dies and everyone who knew him does not care at all. They only care about checking out the new guy.
>>585689243>Please tell me this is as brutal as it getsit's been a while since I actually did a playthrough of AC6, but I can think of one other time when it'll probably be harder for youone time when it might be harder for you, but only if you let yourself get intimidated / overwhelmedand one, maybe two other times where it might be around just as hard, but it shouldn't be harderand aside from the first one that I'm thinking of, each of these can be mitigated by how you approach fights within the mission, just making sure not to put yourself in bad situations
>>585689595the dialogue is always more natural in japanese voiceovers, apparently
>>585689243You can still survive one missile hit on hard, from expert and above its one shot. That's the least of your problems though, stay very wary of AA and flak Guns.
>>585689358Honestly I'm surprised Osea and/or Yuktobania haven't just glassed Sotoa (moreso than it already is) for having KEWs in the first place.
>>585689358I never actually understood what the rainband really was (aside from literally just "that's where the laser blimps hang out") or the limitations that it might have imposed, so I have no idea.
>>585689664>>585689723well I've made my bed, I can see through to it but man this one is harder than I was expecting.
>>585689684People say that but I don't trust them. It's the same people claiming that the not-mexico scene where you drink tea with happy wheels and the gay chechen Toprak is a masterpiece, and not an awkward stunted mess.
>>585689684There was definitely something cursed about the loc for AC8, either there were a fuckton of rewrites/changes WAY later than there should have been or the team were given way too little information, something was clearly wrong.
>>585689595yeah, uhhhhh, this dialogue doesn't sound natural to me AT ALLI was just a little kid back then, but I still remember how people talked, and it wasn't with mini speeches written by aspiring Aaron Sorkin fansit's a different context (police vs. military), but I'd say that the movie End Of Watch captures this kind of banter / idle chatter better
>>585688123Copyyyy :D
>>585688798Can't really add anything more to what you said. AC writers always have these grand ideas on delivering an epic story but they really don't have the talent to pull it off. The whole miniseries they did was so corny and hammy yet made me think they were going to do a lot of what you said in the story. Instead we got disjointed cutscenes that didn't really say much or go anywhere.>>585689595What you don't like Jackson spreading his ass for you? >>585689660Think what anon said about them at least acknowledging it but not having any time to dwell on it would work. Instead you got Tasha just having her supposed "mentor" die yet immediately start to muck about as if nothing happened. Her playing around with you would work but only after she has grown accustomed to you. In fact now I think about it there's a lot of scenes in game that could work if they were just moved to different points of the story.
>>585689787I would've never recommended "Hard" for a first playthrough of an AC gamebut now that you're in it, the only way out is throughI was really just giving you a worst-case scenario, though, about how bad it *could* bedon't let my predictions get too in your headjust play and have fun
>>585689660It's so damn weird that I can only conclude the prologue flight never happened, Cope died a while ago, and the whole thing was some kind of spiritual projection as Rex bonds with Cope's spirit, represented by you seeing his final moments.
>>585690102>What you don't like Jackson spreading his ass for you?I'll show him who's the boss of this platoon
>>585688995And mission 30 is the same but even worse
I had an idea for a total banger of a post that was going to generate tons of great discussion but then I forgot what it was
>>585690151I've played a chunk of the games on hard at this point after going through 1 and 2, 3 onwards I started doing the harder difficulties, I like a challenge but I admit, i'm not good. I just like making myself mad.
>>585689902well i know for a fact that most western localizers are huge leftists/liberals that try to keep everyone else out so that automatically makes me believe it
>>585688785One of the worse furball missions in the franchise.Cold War (my beloved) still remains as the undisputed furball king.
>>585690408that thing at the start where one of the pilots says something like>every combat capable fighter on this side of the world is inbound!is simply
>>585688785It's a chore honestly. It did feel like they wanted to copy >>585690408 but not be seen to copy of it. End result is like weeding the garden at the weekend.
>>585688901>>585688995Can you even fail the mission for ignoring the bombers?
>fort gays island 7 (seven) times in a fucking rowfuck off you slanteyed japs im trying to fucking level my attackers
AC8 is sukhoi propaganda >casually mogs every other plane>multiplayer, meanwhile is mikoyan propaganda with mig31
>>585690926what's so hard about boatslaying?
Given i have hear nobody talk about M29, i guess its not hard or gimmicky?
>>585691164The migger is good for its cost but there are stronger planes for both Ass and War.
>>585691226It's an ace combat bossfight>wait until the game allows you to actually damage the boss>listen to a few minutes of dialogue again>hit it with a few more missiles>winDoesn't help that Tewy's a shit forgettable antagonist
Speaking of PW wonder if the devs considered a talking WSO at some point or even a nod to it? Like a mission where Tasha and Coster have to be the WSO for Kate and the player? Could imagine Coster being uncomfortable yet mostly chill as Kate's WSO but terrified of being the players WSO. Meanwhile Tasha would enjoy every minute of being the players WSO especially if they do a PSM but have an absolute temper tantrum if she was stuck being bored in the back of Kate's jet.
>>58569122622 is a better fight than herShe just kinda dies once she turns off her gimmick mode
>>585691184There are no boats on the warfare version of Fort Grays. It's pure A2A.
>>585691226M29 is a good challenge, but I do suspect the boss has brief invulnerability periods like Mihaly to allow enough time for the dialogue to proceed. M29 is easier than M28 for most players because M29 doesn't filter you if you can't into guns or didn't bring SASMs.
>>585691406>>585691331So unlike Pixy's fight where you actually have to hit him to progress the fight...that does nothing here?
>>585691226Tewy is actually hittable even with dogshit missiles like HPAA unlike Topfuck
>>585691409ah, can't relate since I don't play that
Can I use my 360 saves with the AC6 recomp?
>>585691467You still have to hit her to progress, but she has invincibility phases that drag on for way too long
>>585688785>stressful at first as you have to mow down the bombers fast enough>comfy as you're clearing up the idiots still around the base funnily enough, even on my first run, I'd already reached the score threshold before the timer started>adrenaline while you're fighting 22I loved it.
>>585691672my fucking hands actually sweat fighting this asshole, S rank on the line and all
>>585691467I think you do have to hit Tewy to progress the fight, but like Mihaly her phases are both damage gated AND dialogue gated. So if you're too good and land a bunch of solid hits early, all your subsequent hits mean jack shit until you've heard the dialogue to progress to the next phase.It's weird that after all these years and so many games after Zero, they've made mistakes with boss fight designs that they didn't make with Pixy.
>>585691409>Start Co-op Warfare match>Notice no-one on my team has picked an Attacker>"fine, I'll do it">Only after locking in my Su-34 do I realise that the map is Fort GraysI guess I got to practise using attacker guns on an EA-36.
ngl, kind of regretting putting in my resources and mrp in the F15C (level 15). Everything else with an LAAM dominates a2a
>>585691832PW figured this shit out already. Just give your boss and actual HP bar, that's it. Now you can have both the dialogue and the sense that the player is actually fighting the boss.
>>585691753He flies exactly like a PSM sweat from AC7 multiplayer, except he has better netcode.
I like to think about how game mechanics relate to the player character. Like in ACZ there are no 2shot gnd tgts or 3shot planes. Because Cipher is so deadly.AC04 has that heavier high AoA flight model because Mobius 1 feels the wind, he relies on lift rather than thrust.Ac7 has hypermaneouvrable planes and insane missile tracking because Trigger is young and insane, he wants cool shit to happen and can take the Gs. AC8 has slower turning planes and worse missiles but massively buffed UGBs and guns because Rex is a boomer who still likes doing things the old fashioned way.
>>585688785it's fun the first time round not knowing what to expect.I feel like part of the appeal of replaying this mission is to see how quickly you can style on topkek and his shadows, nerfing them kind of cheapens it and that is why it feels unnecessary. It is not like he is even cheap once you understand his pattern.
>>585692235From what I've read, the F-15C in Online is only useful as a cost effective SASM dispenser. And even then you need to unlock its level all three times to get SASMs.>>585692238I don't understand why campaign doesn't give you indications of enemy health beyond smoke coming from damaged enemies, but online gives you accurate health readings AND damage estimates for your currently equipped weapon.
>>585692573Fuck it then- I am aware this is me falling prey for the sunk cost, but if my team has to suffer while I fly around like a headless chicken until I unlock the SASMs... So be it
>>585692795If it helps, you can unlock the level cap without actually reaching the level cap. With enough ZOLL and blueprints you can unlock the cap all three times and have all SpW and part slots available on a Lv1 aircraft.But yeah, online progression is garbage because other than the MiG-31 and the Su-34, most aircraft that are good in PvE suck in PvP and vice versa.
>>585692795You don' need to hit lvl 20 to get SASM, only unlock it.
>>585692981Nice. I'm actually pretty closer than I thought, just 50k more mrp needed
>>585692235LAAMs are good to kill NPCs, but SASMs are infinitely more useful against an aware player. The Eagle-C is perfectly serviceable as long as you know how to dodge a missile and favour head-on attacks.>>585692795You can uncap the moment you get a plane if you've got the blueprints, you don't need to level it.
>>585688908Stop being such a baby, you got S ranked.
>>585692573>I don't understand why campaign doesn't give you indications of enemy health beyond smoke coming from damaged enemies, but online gives you accurate health readings AND damage estimates for your currently equipped weapon.Because there's no point. Everything dies in 1-2 missiles anyway, even bosses have about 6 missiles worth of hp.
>>585688908The only hard part of the mission is Strigon, who can be very annoying to deal with. The trick is to focus on the airships then use air assault to tell your allies to mop up Strigon for you. If you do that then it's a pretty easy mission overall.
>>585693202True, but damage estimates in campaign will at least make it clearer that class damage modifiers are a thing.
>>585692978Typhoon is great in PvE and competent in PvP. Especially when you've got 2 of them covering each other.Probably not optimal though, would be better to have a dedicated LAAMer and dedicated knifefighter.
>>585693468NTA but is Strigon moving like Toprak or something? Never played AC6 but it sounds miserable if every single one of them are immune to missiles like him
>>585693468>air assaultI meant allied attack, don't know why the fuck I wrote air assault
>>585693574They're quite agile and standard missiles in AC6 have very bad standard tracking unless you fire them at the correct angle where you can get SHOOT to show up, which grants them much better tracking, but Strigon is very agile so getting into that position is hard, one thing feeds the other and it can make for a challenging fight sometimes.
>>585693574They're fast as hell and difficult to get a good angle on, but this can at least be mitigated by just Allied Attacking them and watching as everybody in a twenty kilometre radius swarms them.
>>585693531Are 4AAM/6AAM any good in PvP? LAAMboats can work in both Assualt and Warfare, but if I were to take LAAM into Warfare then I want a backup weapon for close range, even if it's just super buffed standard missiles.
>>585693806AAM can work in warfare against bots but generally no its a poor option.
>>585692292>Like in ACZ there are no 2shot gnd tgtstanks
>>585694003Don't all PS2 games have tanks that take 2 standard missiles to destroy? I feel like they did but I'm not sure.
>>5856938064AAMs are not good vs players. They're OK for quickly farming up npc air targets at medium range or for killing helis from a distance.You're better off just buffing standars and using that as your close range option. Or taking both levels of LRES and gunning people down.Vs players you can sometimes bait out flares by spamming out 4AAM because people hit flares when they see 6 missile indicators.
>>585694003>>585694087Tanks die to only one MSL in ACZ for whatever reason. Demon Lord damage buffs or something.
>>585694087yestanks have always been 2 hit enemies
>>585694160probably to not overcomplicate the yellow tgt spawn
>>585694003Nope. Tanks are 1 shot in ACZ but 2 shots in every other game.
man i love the EA-6B but I feel useless in onlinebut i neeeeeeed the 50 game title and to get it to level 20
>>585692438Going back to Kill Flares22 before he could finish his stupid speech during my Ace Difficulty run felt fucking immaculate after my first run.The fact that Moon-11's fight doesn't let you do this is fucking stupid. Just let me drop the bitch if i'm killing her ahead of her ahead of stupid fucking speech schedule.
>>585693137I did, but it wasn't on purpose and it was tough.>>585693468I've been playing without using that mechanic mostly because I am just learning about it now because I just jumped straight into the game on a whim while talking with friends, so I wasn't putting any attention on th tutorial stuff even though I was aware I was probably missing out on a helpful mechanic, I'll probably look into it next time I boot it up. I'm definitely making this game harder than necessary, especially since I never really used the return line much in other games, so sometimes I just kinda keep going with a mission even if I'm down to just my guns to see how far I can go without resupply.I'm lazy.
>>585690151>I would've never recommended "Hard" for a first playthrough of an AC gameHuh? Maybe for new players but that's silly for anyone experienced.
>>585691309>fast>turns tight>has laams and qaams>cheap>low costHeed me now, it will be disgustingly meta if cost limited lobbies are introduced and laams aren't nerfed.>>585694406>I'm lazy.Retarded is probably a better word to use
>>585696313I felt comfy immediately going for Veteran on AC8 at least as a series player....
>>585696738Vet in AC8 is equivalent to Normal in AC7Elite is Hard
im gonna be honest, dont care about yuke vs soat shitfest at all. if dlcs/ac9 is really about them ill feel disappointed
What is the last game the do the "AA gun and Missile oneshots you on ACE" meme? AC6?
Guys! Whatever you do, do NOT go into Jackpot 9's room! The walls are covered in pictures of Rex! There is a shrine in there! She's cra-!
>>585697248I don't remember AA ever being able to kill you with one hit even on Ace, it could take a good chunk of your HP and kill you in just 3 hits or so, but not 1.
https://x.com/endoraiii/status/2114395372193980545>mulching mirages and frogfoots in a maxed out f-22 and actually posting itYea man, real impressive. They need to fix online as soon as possible if they want more than a few hundred dedicated autists playing it.
>launch online>no connection issues whatsoever today>it's an ea-36 + fa-36 episode againYep, it's an alt+f4
>No post game cutscene where Joker flight is enjoying a meal at Long CastersWhat a missed opportunity.
>>585697345just hyperbole, i fucking hate old game AA guns
>>585697096I wouldn't give a shit, I'm here for the gameplay and the story is secondary, wouldn't even care if they did osea vs yuktobania again
>>585698274I actually want to explore new strangereal regions so Osea vs Yuke again wouldn't be ideal for me
>>585696573>fastIt's legit one of the slowest planes at lvl 20. And yes, it would be ver, strong for under 2k lobbies.
>>585697947my headcanon is that the burgers on the carrier are from long caster
>air to air warfare mission>we clear our side of npcs faster than the enemy team despite not having esm>they get more points anyway because they have an ea-36 that's getting free bonus points by existingWhoever designed this should be forced to play it as a punishment.
>want to use the UGBL ABE part stacking trick>You can only use SU34 second weapon part at max levelthis better be worth the trouble
Anyone else like listening to combat interviews?https://youtu.be/WLTc0K77Q7wlove this shit
>>585699256>shitty onions burgerslong caster would never
>it's a fighter and multirole do steal your ground targets while the sky is still full of enemy targets episodethey need to make fighters do 0x damage to ground units unless they use a spw and multirole can have half damage and they can fucking thank me for it
>>585697360>They need to fix online as soon as possible if they want more than a few hundred dedicated autists playing it.They won't. Hell they haven't even acknowledged it as a problem. To make something this bad has to be deliberate like execs wanted to focus on the online mode but the devs didn't want to so they went out their way to kill it.
>>585699256That is entirely too much pickle. It should be 1 spear for a burger or sandwich.
How does the S medal for Zero works?I have to get S in every variant of the mission, being it Mer\Soldier\Knight?Also should i bother continuind Expert or will the Veteran (ACE) diff give me all the lower difficulties?
>>585688798What you want, and what would be best for the series, is a game not written by Sunao Katabuchi. His problem is that he makes the player the main character of the whole war, everything else only exists in relation to the protagonist. And after the inevitable fall from grace (for something you didn't do) followed by redemption (for being the best ever pilot) it naturally ends with both sides of the initial conflict cheering for (You) as a revered symbol of good.>I don't think that they can actually write what we're hoping for.Look at X, they can do that very well, the format of the series has always worked for unconventional big-picture storytelling. But Katabuchi has pull in the industry so he was brought back in for 7 and 8. We just have to hope he's busy with somethign else so Bamco and Kono can get someone who isn't a hack to do the script for 9, preferably someone in-house at PA.
>>585700101>too much picklespeak for yourself, I got so hungry for those potato slices and pickles on my first playthrough you wouldn't believe
>>585700181AC8 is the only game that implements lower S rank carryover, so you need to replay the game, like 18ish times? Not that much of a problem to me honestly
>>585700301Oh alright. So even to finish the Expert S rank, i need to do all the variations of attitude?
I'm lurking in of the ace combat modding servers. seems like the tranny that made the ace combat 7 coop mod and the tranny that ported it to ace combat 8 have joined forces...
>>585700385you could just use free mission it all as well, campaign is only for the ultimate merc/solly/knight medal IIRC
>>585700254As ill advised as it would be I feel that anons on /aceg/ could write a pretty good AC game if they put their minds to it.
>>585700537As long as we get a real coop experience with more/higher health enemies I don't really care what brand of degenerate retard they are.
>>585700537good, I need fun mods soon
>>585700273Don't get me wrong, i love pickles, but when paired with a burger or sandwich they're supposed to be palate cleansers, a small bite between bites of the burger. Though, thinking more on it, I guess it'd be better to overwhelm the taste of fake meat burger.
>>585697360it's tacked on multiplayer in a bamco game. there will be little to no updates other than battlepass content. maybe some number adjustments at best i know PA is a dedicated team but this is standard course for their company
alright any of you buddies figured out how to transfer save files from PCSX2 to the Steam version of Zero? I don't mind starting over per se but I don't want to ditch my save if I can help it
>>585702052LONGER.
>>585687335>a crab is not a sunFuck off Coster I can't turn off parts of my HUD. It's all or nothing, which also removes the IVF targeting. Piece of shit Usean aircraft.Kinda wild they just slapped 7's HUD in and removed the options it had in 7. Hell the fact you can't even change the color anymore.Hopefully they update the game to fix this id like a modular HUD. (surprised mission 16 got added to the game with the HUD/airplane cock blocking your view.
>>585701808>anon found out how to fix his bugged graphics Proud of you.
>>585702157>Hey Ray look, a sun!
>>585697947>he wants an avengers schwarma momentNo thank you.
>>585702157none of the HUD elements help you identify them, you have to get visual
>>585702157Remember how ACI added that option to make it so the size of targets on the radar would grow/shrink with altitude so you could tell how high they were easily? And then they decided actually that sucked and never brought it back?Yeah I remember that.
>>585702157I did this in cockpit view, you have no excuse.
Any tips in having the slider to "perfect center" for the Soldier medal?
>>585702157you got mk1 eyeballs nigga use em
>>585702157Being fair, the logo IS complete bullshit that looks like total garbage except for the fact it looks like a sun. Like if I saw that on the packaging of a food item I'd move right past it to avoid food poisoning.
>>585701712>battlepass contentI wish there was fuckin battlepass content. The missions are dogshit and some are completely rng.The supply creates/battlepass rewards are so Jewish; you need to roll every skin for each aircraft. Oh you got that cool skin? Only applicable to the F1/8E, keep rolling retard.Got an emote? Cool ulyou got the (left) version!Fuck even the 20 dollar premium battlepass only gives you 500 paid currency! Fortnite, fuck even call of duty refunds you the premium currency cost of the paid battlepass if you complete it.The battlepass is 1k coins.Everything is a grind, the generic blueprints are just fodder, and they knew they fucked up the allocation of Aircraft blueprints that's why you can purchase them for 1k each.I hope they give up the online battlepass shit. I'd fucking hate for all the cool DLC planes from 7 be drip fed into a battlepass over the next 5 years. They already gimped the super planes. There's no nosfsratu or anything from the mission impossible dlc. The pixy is dogshit, hell even that stupid cripple bitch's plane sucks. Fucking electronic warfare as an SP? Nigga please.They nerfed so much shit to add it as content in the battlepass. Which fucking blows.
>>585702157>Double tap radar button so it doesn't take up as much space>Put the ships on the sides of your plane and use padlock or the right stick to look closer, since the artificial horizon is locked to your plane's noseProblem solved.
Cipher can do it too nowhttps://www.moddb.com/games/ace-combat-zero-the-belkan-war/addons/acz-enhanced-gunplay-mod
>>585702849I didn't read any of your post, but if you want more emergency sorties they pop more often if you switch between Warfare and Assault instead of running the same one over and over. I usually get one after warfare-> assault -> assault, and I usually go dry even with 10 assaults in a row. Trying to get that 500 sortie F-4E title and it's not gonna happen in Warfare.
>>585702981psm and high g turns trivialize the gameplay. they're fun but make the game mindless, basically an invincibility toggle that removes the entire concept of positional awareness. i can only imagine how much it breaks the older games kek
>>585703227Well, you could probably mod the difficulty to account for them as well. Just have to make sure it's packaged in.
>>585702157>hey how about we paint our boats with a different logo so people can tell we're the bad guysretarded ass fucking mission
Boy I loved getting triple teamed as an attacker while my 2 dedicated fighter teammates fuck off diametrically across the map to ground pound instead of providing cover.
>>585703323I'm guessing the sun is a common logo for whatever that cargo company they're pretending to be is, and the actual ones got stopped by the blockade, luckily leaving just the terrorist ones in striking distance.
>>585703429Should've gone with them
>>585702769>implying every cockpit view is the sameYou just blow in from Sotoa? Clearly you're new to fighter jets.And I'm on console so modding isn't an option. Thus my plea that they patch the HUD itself to be more customizable. I paid 70 bucks for the game I can request QoL shit.
>>585703429>pull aggro from 3 dudes for a few minutes>can't really get a lock on any of them because EW spam>just fly around and dodge missiles for a minute or two as surely my teammates are farming hella points since they're uncontested>they're not>they're losing a pve 3v1>i go afk and collect my obligation zoll
>>585703429>accidentally readied fast>everyone picked fighters>first place with ~60k>second place was14k, third 7k, last place 1.5kwhy does PA insist on giving me glue gobblers for wingmen?
>>585702117
>>585702981Eh, the ps2 games just aren't balanced for this.
>>585703668>he doesn't huff glue himself before queing onlineYou're just playing it wrong, they are doing it right.
>>585703693Yes, YES.
>>585703528I think you may just be retarded and blind. Not to mention that you can immediately cut out most of the ships because they don't have three cranes on them. Yes, it does tell you that before you say some stupid shit about "how was I supposed to know"
>>585701808Some redditor vibe coded a tool for it.>>585294514
>>585703810Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
>>585703429>2 EWs>I went Su bomberman to rack up multi kills>pixy player this far into the seasonThey just kept killing me, and I suppose the "ideal" way to handle it was pixy use use one of our EWs and dogfight them while the other covers me against missile attacks while I farmed enemy targets.Stupid fucking mode, they should at least force aircraft roles or something. Two fuckin EWs
>>585702729Look at the number of yellow targets in the briefing, keep a running count of how many you've killed. Aim for exactly half.If more yellow targets appear(like by damaging a plane) adjust accordingly. If you need to slightly shift the bar offset by 1-2 kills but no more.
>>585703978good shout, now allow me to rant autistically>tip-toe spoilerswhat's even the point of designating anything as vibe coded anymoreeverything is coded using ai now. everything, all of it, even well-made software. if it works it works, at least someone took the initiative and asked claude to spit out something useful to the rest of us. anyone shitting their diapie because redditor asked claude to do it instead is living in a reality that doesn't exist
>>585689660They had been suffering loss after loss on the carrier so they were used to people going out and not coming back. They had lost 2 squads within a few weeks of Rex showing up.
>>585704251Even competent programmers are using AI for the menial parts of coding. It's just a tool like anything else. It's also one of the few places where I don't see any problem with its use and I really don't understand the seethe over it.
>>585704250Thanks very helpful
>>585704134Two people locking EW on my own team is an instant alt+f4 from me, let alone two EWs and a multirole with ECM. Sorry to make you wait the duration in the lobby, but I just can't be fucked to endure a full round of warfare with that level of retardation.
>>585703948I followed pic related. Look I don't know what your white knighting/anti social behavior is about this game. No need to insult anyone when all I'm asking for is shit the game SHOULD have. When I tuned the HUD off. The all on screen display shit on ENTIRE screen goes away.There's literally no setting specifically for your aircraft's HUD in a game that has TWO view modes for your jet's HUD.Stop being such a fuck ass Sotoan.
>>585704475I did it in an F-15 in cockpit view. This is a you problem. That you had to look up a chart is testament to your retardation.
>>585704451Yeah I just was doing my dailies. Kept getting picked off by practically their entire team. Some type of comeback mechanic or at least temporary invincibility after spawning when losing badly. I'm almost done with the BP anyhow so I won't be playing that mode till next season.
>>585704251>>585704407As a dev who does use AI...the difference is mainly in just how much oversight, checking and stuff you assign it. Vibecoded means that essentially AI has complete domain and control over it, you ask for something, it gives it to you...you check, if its still not what you wanted or its bugged, you give the entire thing back and ask to change it or fix it. You have very little or zero idea what does each segment of the code actually do.The problem comes when non obvious issues pop up that the AI cant easily fix. Another is how LLMs dont necessarily optimize the logic flow or code so the app can come out very unoptimized an slow. Now that's not a problem if you are just trying to get something quick done but not so much an entire project
>>585704475>I used a cheatsheet and still lostDog, what the actual fuck. Just look at the god damned boats. Three cranes, sun logo. Hold down triangle or Y and visually inspect the side of the ship, the HUD has NOTHING to do with this mission until the UAVs spawn.
>>585704614>I did it in an F-15 in cockpit viewGood for you. Do me a favor and give pic related to your mom it has very important information for her.
>>585704251True, but even if you get AI to do the save conversion bit there was no need to also create a completely unnecessary gaudy UI for what should really be a simple CLI tool.
>>585704906I recognize you're retarded, anon.
>got 2 emergency sorties out of 2 dailiesShould be how it is all the time.
>>585704906We recognize you have a different point of view, we're also able to recognize that you're retarded and probably wore a helmet to school.
>>585704451But 2 Morgans with TLS/ECM plus an EA-36 with IEWS is probably the strongest comp in the game.
>>585704828>and still lostI know this general is infested with South East Asians but don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say I lost; I was stating that the fucking HUD is obnoxiously large in this game and there's no modifications in the options for it, making it more difficult then it needs to be to verify the targets.God you people are fucking quick to throw an insult and pretend there's some argument to be had. >Game needs more customizable HUD choicesThat's it, now go back to /v/ where your people are.
>>585705237Of all the people that might not belong here, you are at the top of the list, man. Just look at the boats. Shoot the sun logo. It's not that big of a deal.
>>585705164>but this different combination than what you said is the strongest in the gamewat
>>585705237
Sotoan aesthetics are overall kino but their flag sucks. The green and red doesn't work well together and the 8 pointed star thingy they have in the middle aligns oddly inbetween them, especially in roundel form. How do we fix it?
Wait. You guys are having trouble finding the right boats?Are you retarded?Like full on helmet-wearing, pants-shitting, baby-tossing retards?
>not even brightness made it
>>585705602Having 2 Morgans and 2 EWs is not much weaker than 2 Morgans, 1 EW, and 1 Fighter. It's still a top tier comp that will crush almost anything else.
>>585705620fucking saved
>>5857057842 Morgans running TLS/ECM and a Barricader are way more likely to be a unit with a strategy, two Barricaders and an ECM Morgan are much more likely to be 3 randoms that don't know what is happening.
>>585705831That's a cheetah.
>>585705982What is there to know>enemy approaches our airspaceKill it>enemy attacker reaches aceKill it
>>585699256My real questions is what kind of beer is that and where did he get it from?>>585700273Are you pregnant anon?
>>585706860coordinated attacks vs. wandering off to attack random crap while getting shot down over and overdo you only play with friends? this is a very common occurrence in solo random lobbies
>>585707323It's probably notsapporo
>>585688908I remember struggling to do a guns-only run on this mission, especially the very last part where you shoot the Aigaion's cockpit. You would think it'd be a pretty large and easy target, but no it's hitbox was so damn fucky that you could only strafe it from some ridiculous oblique angle to even damage it. I think I even tried calling an allied attack solely on the cockpit target but somehow it just never worked.
>>585707341My friends can't into flight. I kill stuff solo because TLS melts things and gives zero fucks about ecm
I feel like a huge retard not being able to find this fucker, it doesn't even have a special spawn condition like other aces
That guy who thinks a crab is a sun may be kinda retarded, but he does have one point. The hud and camera should be a bit more customizable. I've been playing with one of the FOV mods and it makes the cockpit view massively more enjoyable. It also, obviously, gives you a much greater feeling of speed when you're close to things to give you a point of reference.
>>585705831>>585706208oh no not again
wait, so the crab is not a sun?
>>585708870I'd at least like to turn down the glow of the HUD. Maybe also make the lines thinner. I guess it was designed for 1440p/4k screens but it's too much on 1080p.
You'd think suncrab would be a Soulslop meme but surprisingly it's AC
>>585708873Don't worry, I only do the full chain once a month, lest I get accused of avatarfagging.
>>585708918>>585709128Praise the sun!
Why are we wso?Did we become crippled or something after all of those g's?
>>585709774Kate insisted on you going in her backseat for the honeymoon.
>only get 8 (14 with both reinforced mounts) MPBMs with the Morgan in the campaignYou know, it's kinda hilarious how obviously they balanced this thing for online. You got like 16 by default in 7. Man I really hate how DLSS/FSR makes this game look like shit sometimes.
>>585709234wow that's actually a giraffe
>>585709974It's actually small because unlike in 7 they're actually good this time and you can even use the TLS along with it.
>[[This is Ventus 541 of the 8th Prairie Air Wing.]]
>>585710260I don't remember them being bad. They weren't great, but they weren't bad. Not that they aren't definitely better here, but I'm not sure that they're twice as good. The TLS is though, the TLS in 7 fucking sucked.
Have you nuggets tried out AC7 co-op yet? I think its pretty alright, bit too easy since the game isn't balanced around 2 players. Maybe with some tweaks like adding more enemies it would be more fun.
Purple Magic? More like....PURPLE FAGGOT!
>>585689358>>585689758I'm certain it's a political boundary, at least that's how it makes by far the most sense.Orbital mechanics and the satellite's orbit as shown in-game dictate that the Tonitrus Spear wouldn't be in a geosynchronous orbit, i.e. constantly be pointing at the Rainband and the area east of it. Orbit time is given at 90 minutes (which is roughly similar to the ISS, also indicating it's orbiting fairly close to Strangereal-Earth, assuming it's the same size as real Earth), with the orbit running at a very high angle off the equator, almost perpendicular to it iirc. Assuming, again, Strangereal-Earth is as large as real Earth, this would mean the Tonitrus Spear would cover most of the world in the span of a few days (the planet is spinning at an angle below the satellite). Obviously most other countries wouldn't be too happy about this thing flying around once they find out what it actually does. The idea here is to buy time and stall at the international political stage by exploiting the war-weariness of Osea and Yuktobania and the likely extremely unpopular idea of getting involved in another war on Usea to quickly steamroll the FCU before any real international response can be mustered. We see that several countries stopped viewing the FCU as a legitimate state just a few months into the war. It's effectively a big gamble with Sotoa believing nobody's going to call them out. Everything went perfectly according to plan as well, until the mute psychopath showed up and blew up the first landship. The satellite's initial attack likely still ruffled a lot of feathers internationally, with Sotoa being busy assuaging fears and stalling by declaring they'll never use the satellite offensively again and establishing the Rainband as an exclusively defensive perimeter and political boundary to cover their HQ and main staging areas in eastern Usea and the ocean. It's also why they use the blimps, it's for show. The satellite doesn't need the laser.
>>585711012
>>585688908Its kind of funny how easy the Strigons are to bully once you figure out the gimmicks in that game.
>>585711535That really goes for any enemy squadron. People tend to call most squads jobbers, but there's really not any enemy that can withstand an AC protagonist.
Give it to me straight, should I even hope for megalith to be added to online?
>>585711678Yeah but I think they're about the only squadron you can actively decimate before they even have a chance to get airborne which I have found amusing.
>>585711007>wingmateWoke slop
>>585712000Yeah they should have replaced it with boyfriend
>>585709757I know someone here has the Solaire art with the sun (crab)
>>585712000>>585712073>tfw no wingfriend with benefits
>>585711907True, but I actually like that. Strigon does a really good job of feeling like a fully manned enemy squadron given how often you run into them so I don't actually mind that they're on the easier side. They have more members so it makes sense that they're less skilled on average. I mean, look at Sol in 7. There's not very many of them and they always show up fashionably late.
I just shot down a Mig-21 with guns in AC0 and the enemy pilot said«Damn! My plane looks like swiss-cheese!»This is highly disturbingWhere is switzerland located in Strangereal?
>>585712254It's actually cheese made in the swiss region of Osea. Anything else is just cheese with holes in it.
>>585712254a bit south of hamburg of hamburger fame
>>585711869Yes.
>>5857107177's MPBM had shit damage on anything but a direct hit (direct hit with a fucking MPBM lmao) even with MP only parts because a good chunk of it's AoE damage came from the lingering cloud from which most air targets would quickly move away from, the only targets the AoE could deal with were MQ-99s, not even 101s.
>>585712254Next to that place where that italian bistro got its name
>>585712534Makes sense. It was my dedicated Alicorn murdering plane and I didn't use it for much else, so maybe that's why I didn't notice how weak they were.
>>585710437
>>585709757>>585712180
>>585712735I want the DLC to be about these dudes.
>>585712735Based and pastoralpilled
>>585712735These guys have so much dialogue I never hear cause I wipe them out every single time within just a minute
What's Count doing these days?
>>585712958Based and laampilled
>>585712735>>585712904>>585712914>>585712958These guys are my favorite squadron in the game by far.
>>585713283Getting his pelvis crushed daily by Húxiān.
>>585712958I have taken to shooting down all the nuggets before engaging them. I want to make them watch.
>>585713283>if he didn't resign, he's an Osean Ace like Trigger.If he did resign, he's probably in jail again.
>>585713575I am surprised they even still had more Gemmas in 25...
>>585713321Shooting multilockers as soon as they spawn and getting massive multikills
>>585713817Less said about Rocky Island the better.
>>585714042Maybe I'm just kinda retarded, but the multi-locks in 8 feel kinda shitty. Do you need to buff em up more with parts now or something?
>>585692292>Ac7 has hypermaneouvrable planes and insane missile tracking because Trigger is young and insane, he wants cool shit to happen and can take the Gs. AC8 has slower turning planes and worse missiles but massively buffed UGBs and guns because Rex is a boomer who still likes doing things the old fashioned way.Yeah that makes sense.Unless i missed a line or two, Rex is never outright pointed out as an insane pilot like Trigger was, just generally really good, instead he's kind of called out as an insane marksman, considering Baxter has to explicitly tell you NOT to shoot at cockpits during dogfights.
>>585714109Even buffed better off with other missiles in all honesty.
>>585714042Not even the Gemmas are shitty enough to get hit by my 4AAMs
WHERE'S THE EMERGENCY SORTIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
>>585713415>>585712958>>585712735>>585710437If anyone handolds me into the datapack for the sound files i'll bother doing a compilation of the ventus dialogue
>>585714640Claude, help this man.
>>585711154I thought the use of blimps with laser targetting was specifically for very cloudy conditions when trying to hit a moving target. And that they can hit static targets just fine.
>>585714687This is what I figured too. The blimps are for moving targets that the satellites can't pick up for some reason or another
>>585714774Also the weapon is mostly used against ships and not planes, since they are relatively slow and are much bigger targets.
>>585711154I still think its a plothole that the very moment the spear was used to cover up Enso essentially targeting people across the world Sotoa should have been turned to glass instantly. Nobody in their right mind is going to wait for them to explain themselves.
Tonitrus satellites have limited ammo, that's probably why they didn't drop one on every FCU base.
>>585715089Guess they figured the only people who knew anything were the higher ups and they're basically all dead with no way to prove anything anyway.
>>585711154People estimate that strangreal is smaller than earth based on the cross referencing maps of strangreal with the projected ranges of the battleship. You're correct that the orbits don't make sense, and I think that could be just due to PA not understanding orbital mechanics just like they fuck up estimating casualty counts. I think that lasers are necessary to boost precision for striking a moving ship sized target but aren't needed for engaging static targets.I think it is important to remember that the war against the fcu and San salvacion were not the primary objectives of the conflict. Both wars were smokescreens to give battleship 2 a means to wander close enough to the elevator to capture it before global forces could muster a response. The goal was checkmating the planet with a constellation of spear satellites. The fcu war was a mere stepping stone to that ultimate goal. If the rain band was a political construct, it doesn't make sense why sotoa would violate the rainband and risk global reprisal before battleship 2 could complete its goal.I feel like it's a mix of them not knowing orbital mechanics, and and forgetting to put Rio Bajo in the rain band.I suspect later strikes can be explained by satellite 2 being an updated model, and Enso performing techno wizardry to update the fire control systems remotely.
>>585715171Bases are on the list of things that you strike with weapons like that. Certainly higher than the elementary school in expo city that they struck.
Why wasn't Cope shooting anyone down?
>>585715536Cause he was a treacherous Sotoan dog!
>Tasha is front and center on marketing>the actual best girl is the sleep deprived woman in her early 30sGod bless the Japanese for understanding their audience.
>>585715536Too pacifistic, didn't wanna kill his fellow man, only ever wanted to shoot down banjo-Tewy and it was more to stop her than to kill her.
>>585714248Yeah, there's also a line by Cope at the end of Rocky Island day 2 where he says "you actually hit that?"But when you pull stunts like tunnel runs Cope is not impressed. He chastises you for taking a risk but isn't blown away by the actual flying. Rex is said to fly like the wind, so gentle, smooth, and adaptable. Which is a good style for a marksman.
>>585692292>Ace Combat 5 has shit gameplay and low ammo to reinforce the pacifist messageReal ludonarrative harmony, most anti war art fails because it makes it seem cool and appealing and it is but if you make it boring and a chore the suddenly killing each other doesn't seem so good
>>585715709Women in their early 30s are the best
>>585715709You just know they're going to confirm that Rex is married to her post game.
>>585714248>>585715826And the mini DFM segments represents what it feels like for Rex when he's in the zone and fully focused on taking a shot.
>>585714248Yea, Trigger is a fucking psychopathic murderer and he flies like one. Rex is a much more laid back pilot in comparison, at least as far as canon lore is concerned. It's hard to say which AC main character is more skilled though.
>>585716080Kill megacorps
>>585714680i'll finish Zero again and then i'll start working on it tonight
>>585692292>and insane missile trackingDid we play the same game? Actually, better question, how long has it been since you played 7?
>>585716080I was half expecting there to be a racing section in this game with all the effort they put into the cutscenes.
>>585716230NTA but AC7 missle tracking is the strongest in the sagaBy far
>>585716143My vote is still Mobius 1 since his canon plane is an F-4. So he accomplished his triumphs in a Gen-3 rust bucket.
>>585715509It's a lot funnier to strike Expo City 6 times though.
>>585688908that one's pretty easy actually
After all, why shouldn't I just sell all my planes accumulated in Zero and buy the Su-37 ASAP?
>>585716396Doesn't he show up in a Typhpoon in AC5's arcade mode?
>>585716230how long has it been since you played 7?About 2 months. Finished a replay 3-4 weeks before AC8 came out. Aside from 3 7 has the best standard missile tracking in the series once parts are applied. And even before parts aside from 6's missiles with the SHOOT mechanic.3 is the only entry with lead homing standards but it has a very different drifty flight model and all missiles also act like semi-SAAMs(you can improve their tracking by keeping your target in the box at the centre of your screen). 3's standards also have a warmup time where they can't track worth shit for the first ~500m.
>>585716472There is literally no reason not to do this, the Terminator can handle both A2A and A2G and is the best at both(until you get to the postgame superplanes).
>>585716349I'm assuming you played the game with the cheat mod that allows you to use the tier 2 homing parts and the data link in SP, either that or you're shitposting.>>585716541>how long has it been since you played 7?I just finished a replay 30 minutes ago, these missiles have shit tracking and can be dodged by moving slightly in another direction, and that's before factoring in that enemies are now much more agile in the air, there's only on homing part and even with it the missiles are still worse than those in the PS2 games.
How baldness inducing would campaign be if enemy aces are not restricted to Fox 2 missiles aside from whatever gimmicks they may have?
>>585717023Drones are more evasive than PS2 enemies but if you had actual PS2 missile tracking you'd never hit anything in AC7.AC7 has objectively better tracking missiles. They have a larger tracking cone and a faster turn rate.
i experimented a bit with the VERBOTEN ace combat 3 tapes and ai to improve the ac3 intro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVG6g5G2LwE what do you think?
>>585717146That would maybe make the enemy planes actually interesting to fight. Currently they're really inconsequential.
>>585716508I thought he showed up in a raptor, but I haven't played that since launch and I don't know if if it's Canon.
>>585716080Where's G Corp?
>>585717232Not that much of an improvement. Also, the sound is de-synced.
>>585717146They aren't restricted in MP but they tend to not be so good with those weapons.
>>585716396He obviously uses an F-22, 7 even has a Mobius skin for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOYxtfOrzos
>>585716396I'm pretty sure he only starts in the F-4E but is in an F-22 by the end, canonically.
>>585717460its just an quick and dirty test
>>585717490Strange, I don't remember this mission in Infinity.
>>585717490>this is what war thunder could've beenWe've been robbed
>>585717183They only appear to have a higher turn rate because they're so slow.
>>585717023Nigga i did 100% on AC7 and AC8 an played all the other games. No cheats used, ever.Tracking in the PS2 era games even gets "jammed" if you are slightly turning or rolling.AC8 missles are clunky if you don't boost them with a lot of parts. AC7 missles are easily the better compared to all of the others.
>>585717906No, they straight up have a higher turnrate. They're not slower either, if anything they're slightly faster(and you can use parts to make them even faster).
>>585716396It'd be kinda fuckin awkward for his entire squad to be rockin F-22s when attacking Megalith and he's still inexplicably flying a two-seater F-4 rust bucket.
>>585709974>temporally smears your screenpshhh, nothing personnel kid...
>>585706208It’s weird that all 4 members of Purple Magic have portraits despite only being in 2 missions. It reminds me of how in AC7 how all the Peace Keeping groups have emblems while only being in a total of 4 missions.
>>585718880oops forgot image
>>585696953As long as Ace difficulty doesnt have oneshot missiles, the game will be piss easy compared to PS2
>>585719047I hate it man it's so irritating. You can watch enemy planes ghost really badly as well.
>oh, this? just a habit of mine, don't worry about it
>>585719621How the fuck did he get away with it for so long?
>>585719680He never shook hands with Baxter.
>>585719680Nobody fucking knows what a Sotoan looks like or acts like, so the Naturalized inmigrant was able to get by without suspicion.
Now that AC8 confirmed religion was right and there is an afterlife paradise (and therefore also a hell) in Strangereal, think of the countless thousands of poor bastards whose souls you condemned throughout the many years and wars in that worldAlso, which player Aces go to hell?
>>585720247>Cope went to heaven because he chose not to kill anyone.>Tewy went to heaven because she failed to kill anyone.All player aces kill many people, so they're all in hell.
>>585707323>>585707413
>>585720247It's Acehalla, everyone pilot you killed died in glorious aerial warfare and are welcomed into the mess hall of Callsign Odin. Pray you aren't the Snacko.It's the guys that bail out that go to Hel. This is why you never eject when you actually die in the games.
Megafloat is disappointingIt's too easy to destroy and it's all over too quick, you don't even an epic air battle to go with it
>>585720247Why does there have to be a hell?Why can't everyone just go to heaven?God loves you
>>585707323You don't know Comona beer?
>>585721148if god loved me he wouldn't have given me arthritis at 35
>>585720569You're forgetting about all of the people on the fcu ships that 11 sank
>>585721148tommy wiseau
>>585721008I sense Fatsia is mainly there as a quick farming mission in case you seriously need to do last minute pre endgame farming?
hey buddies i've got this half a quote riding in the back of my head without a ticketit goes somewhat like>we have been briefed and are ready to helpwhich ace combat was that from
I want to love it but the fuel probe is so gross.
>>585722345Agreed
>>585722345love Gripen instead
Best delta wing jet design?
CRABS ARE SUNS
>>585720569Nah, Talisman never killed any people, only Estovakians.
>>585722840J-35 Draken
>>585720883So is there a Navalhalla? Armyhalla? Marinehalla? Astrohalla? Or is Heaven exclusively for fighter pilots and everyone else goes to Hell?
>>585722840F-16XL
>finally have enough to uncap my plane>short of general blueprints
>>585723337basedalso first to be able to do the cobra maneuver
>>585723574Well that means you actually dont have enough to uncap your pane innit
>>585722840Vulcan
>>585723729true
>>585723741I wish I could hear the vulcan howl in real life. That shit sounds insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAoLJkiRuGY
>>585722840Mirage 4000
>>585723965My nigga.
Damn, F-15Chan is so lewd. Look at her all dressed up.
i could be wrong but i feel like project aces won't really be able to recreate or live up to the atmosphere of 3 with their next game. not only is the aesthetic and narrative a pure product of it's time but the people in charge of development now are also too old to really "get" it
>>585720569>>585721519She also killed Baxter.
>>585722345Think of it like a beauty mark on your french girl.
>>585723948Its even better hearing one taking off.>>585725467I think its a given they won't ever be able to match AC3 unless the entire dev team is hooked to an IV drip of LSD.
>>585725352F-15M(ashu)
>>585725918It's more a French girl wearing a strap-on.
>>585722840Convair Model 200
>>585726202No this is what a strap on looks like
>>585726379That's a futa!
Kinda funny how everyone around Tewy downplays the 100% Shadow casualties rates except her
I think the general playerbase is starting to pick up the frogfoot Chandelier meta. DT should be proud.
>>585726770It's comfy, I can now just pick any plane I want to level up and we'll be fine (at last)
>>585726770>99%kekI grazed the Alicorn just now in my own Frogfoot and was afraid I was gonna die to random AA fire at any moment
>Need gold blueprints>Have no idea how long I will have to play to get emergency sortiesThis shit sucks major ass and the only way to get it to an acceptable level is with a group of people playing games individually until one of them gets the sortie and assembles the group for the rest of them.
>>585726770>playerbase is starting to pick upIt's more that the playerbase is starting to fall off so only the ones that were interested enough to make a plane for it remain.
>>585725467I just need them to get the AC3 OST vibes right
>>585726770F-4 fags were showing them the way but those guys have mostly stopped playing.
>>585726770I want the ADLER back so I can do MGP runs again but with something that isn't a shitbox
>>585727305Honestly if it weren't for Attacker bonuses I'd just rock the F-4 for every Emergency Sortie. As it is Alicorn filters nuggets enough that I leveled a Fullback to help me make up for bad teams, and watching the Frogfoot tear through targets faster than a Phantom is very satisfying. Arsenal Bird is a free win, I just bring whatever I want to level.
>Market AC:O as the biggest online in the franchise's history>It's actually just a worse Infinity and the devs are dead set on dragging their asses on getting anything done with it>Only other option is some slopcoded shit made by people who barely know how it worksGrim.Back to other games I guess.
>ace combat 4>game from 2001>you start with a plane from the 70s and finish with an f22>ace combat 8>game from 25 years later>you start with a plane from the 70s and finish with an f22
>>585727774Don't worry, in AC12 we'll start with an F-15 and end with the F-47
>>585727774F16s on mars
Opinions?
>>585727927>A-10>Nigger and societal drainYeah that checks out
>>585727774Welcome to modern militaries. Technology stagnated around the 90's and has gotten little better since other than consumer electronics.This is actually normal. What was abnormal was the period of technological progress from 1850 to 1980.
>>585727774
>>585727927>F-2>Better figure than F-16This person doesn't know shit about planes.
>>585727927The harrier is the psychopath that if you don't treat exactly right breaks down and tries to kill you. Fucking Harriers, they're amazing, but also dangerous and awful to maintain.
Motherfucker.
>>585727927>Harrier>Petite
>>585727927I disagree on the Harrier. Harrier is smol but ridiculously jacked for her size, to reflect her payload carrying capabilities relative to her weight.
>>585727927This person thought up a squadron made up of teenage girls and tried to make the planes fit the characters in their head.
>>585722840Eurofighter, F-106, Mirage 4000
>>585728202>showing her belly like thatSlut.
>>585727774Too expensive for the FCU, oseans are probably all using falkens by now seeing as how a space elevator is their equivalent of international aid
>>585728253thanks grok for the summary
>>585727774Current 4th gen fighters will stay in service well into the 2040s and the F-35 is projected to fly until fucking 2080 or something.
>>585728107There was a Harrier that had a digital Fly-by-Wire as a test bed, almost entirely to stop it being such a Widowmaker on landings.The research went on to inform the F-35B's landing controls.
>>585728446we need another world war to get some real progress on tech again
>>585728410You have not yet seen the depths of aero-sluttery
>>585727927rafale looks squat, chubby and downieenough overrating that ugly turd
>>585728582The real progress now is happening in drones and weapons systems
>>585720247>Also, which player Aces go to hell?Mercenary Cipher has a permanent residence there to Doomguy Belkans for all eternity. Nemo drops by out of curiosity and because his programming occasionally still compels him to shit on Dision. Blaze is too peacenik pilled to visit, and Talisman's dancing with the angels. Mobius drops by to redeem the sins of the world, but never redeems any soldiers because they're all too scared of the grim reaper to approach him. Trigger pays Phoenix to go down there and do air races with him through all seven layers. Rex visits Baxter who has set up shop like Cipher, except he focuses solely on Sotoans.
>>585728586
>>585727927>harrier>athletic reflexesHoly shit no. It gets fucking mogged in fights against peers unless the opponent is a retard that tries to get into a stall fight vs vtol planes.>remembered to fly my harriers in warblunder.
>>585727927F-22 chan is a strong willed onee-san, with a fearless smile.She may be fragile but she doesn't look it
>>585728582Just a cold war would do.The problem is that we won't get much of an advancement in terms of fighter jets, since the meta is missles now. A B21 that can load like 40 missles will destroy 10 F35s carrying 4 missles each.
The F-35 is a certified top 10 ugliest planes of all time member
What does Mirage-chan look like?
>>585728582You can't just "war" your way to technological progress. When technology stagnates, it's usually either a materials science problem, a chemistry problem, or a resource problem. Like the space elevator is purely material sciences problem and if we had the materials then we would have built one decades ago.Cold War resulted in a splurge in R&D funding that completely oneshotted research for maybe a century or more.
>>585728062But hey at least we have AI making everything worse and less secure now. That's gotta count for something
>>585727927
>>585728874Pedofile hands typed this
>>585727039Abuse the party search mechanic. It's not a guarantee but if you refresh for long enough you'll eventually find two every day.
>>585728868The meta is looking like it might be an f35 or some 6th Gen bird acting as a command and control unit for expendable drones to fire their missiles based off of orders from the manned birds.
>>585728062>Technology stagnated around the 90'si don't think the technology is the issue; technology is constantly improving in basically every way and it's gotten to the point that the economics literally cannot keep up because of its inefficiency, so it stands to reason that the current economic system in use is the bottleneck, not technology
>>585720883You can only go there if you remain at the cockpit of your weapon. If you are blown out the plane or are Sotoan then you go automatically to Hel.>>585723429There's definitely an equivalent open for the Immortals if they can ever get there.
>>585729031What a metafag
>>585728062>What was abnormal was the period of technological progress from 1850 to 1980.Aliens
>>585728915like a prim and proper bookworm girl with big round glasses, and maybe braces
>>585729106See >>585728927There is a constant "I want to do X" and more than enough funding to do so, the problem is almost always "it is currently physically impossible to do so."A good example of this is aeronautics in the 1800's. For a long time it was assumed by the scientific community that heavier than air flight was physically impossible, not because birds were fake or something, but because no power source existed that was small enough and energy efficient enough to make it happen. Steam powered planes? Impossible because the more coal you add to power the damn thing, the heavier it is and the harder it is to get off the ground. It wasn't until the early 20th century with gas powered engines that heavier than air flight became physically possible.So the underlying problem here was a chemistry problem, not a "what if we threw more money at it?" problem.
>>585728582ZOG fractal corruption, insane 4D financialization sorcery, extreme deindustrialization, mass dysgenics, and near-total atomization and demoralization makes WWIII effectively impossible. None of the countries outside of China can actually produce the arms to support total conventional warfare, none of the elites are intelligent or sane enough to run massive operations, and none of the peasants want to die for their country. WWIII, if forced into existence, would be the gayest and lamest thing that has ever happened in human history.
This general will go down in history. The jet and missile technology developed here will inspire those who come after.
>>585729106The economics are being held back by "shareholders"
>>585729080So you're saying the future is the CFA-44best girl wins again
I think we need to have a more serious discussion regarding Upotte with planes.
>>585729412i blame a lack of mercs like us
>>585729157Game was unironically for the Cannon Fodder nickname. I bought into the EW meme early before everyone realized how cancer they were, and after way too many games in them I wish I hadn't. Buff slutting in Ace Combat doesn't feel rewarding like in other games because it's completely unnecessary, groundpounding gives me more feelgood supporter vibes because most players don't bring attackers or A2G.
>>585729591Imagine how sweaty she is having to wear that suit all the time.Mmm, butterflies
>>585728915>cute, small body, big payload, nuclear capable, burns off energy rapidly and stalls, always proudly carrying a stick, French spirit of wanting to burn it all down on a semi-frequent basis, name starts with MMegumin plane
>>585722020End of ac5?
>>585729386R&D is arguably the easier half because all it takes knowledge and funding. the US for example has always been at the forefront of modern R&D because their socio-economic system allows for it but they haven't really ever been a society that experiences the benefits of that R&D trickling down to everybody else - outside of major mid-late 20th century military applications - for that same reason. in my opinion mass production, the other half, is more difficult because it not only requires prior R&D but it also requires additional funding, space and resources which, given sufficient advancement of technology, will inevitably run into a roadblock if the nation behind it doesn't have a large enough population and therefore a system of governance which is ineffective at collectivizing enough resources efficiently to make it happenbasically, we're already at the point where R&D has pushed the possibilities so far ahead that most ordinary people don't even realise how futuristic modern technology truly is because there's not enough funding to mass produce all of that technology>>585729412i can think of another term but i'd probably be banned
>replay AC6>any mission starts with Shamrock firing a volley of ADMMs and obliterating every enemy in front of youplease tell me they are bringing back the CFA-44 in 8
>>585729407Flyout lets you create your own missiles now, you guys could make your own giant big dick missile to rule them all
>>585729612Strike witches?
>>585730474it is one of the datamined planesthough its probably gonna have the nerfed ADMMs from 7
>>585730428turns out it was ac7 but thanks for the reply nonetheless
>>585729612Kotobuki. It's prop planes tho.
>>585730334sorry but F-2 is megumin you can't do anything about it, already decided about 15 years ago
>>585730474PW has modded admms and they don't seem to be as broken.
>>585730714Yeah, but>japwank
>>585730714Is there any reason to tap the fuel gages specifically? Check to see if the needles are stuck?
>>585730714Has there ever been a flight game where you can take off and land from flying carriers?
>>585720247If what cope says is any indication the heaven we see works like the one from porco rosso and all pilots end up there regardless of their deeds in life
>>585730901AC3 has landing on the Ouroboros zeppelin carrier, but it seems like good guys are cucked from owning the cool toys.
>>585730773
>>585730901Gunmetal?BF 2042?
>>585731067>>585730901BF2142*
>>585730901You could land vtol craft on the titans in battlefield 2142. I miss that game.
>>585731165>>585731067>>585730901Fuck you remembered me and i had to watch that againThat shit was so fucking good. Why did most of games lost their SOVLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hMYeah we have an ace combat every 10 years but at least thei try to retain the SOVL.
>>585731483>>585731585We literally went to watch the same trailer and we took the exact same fucking screenshotBASED BASED BASED
>screenshot hivemindFirst I've heard of it.
>>585727305>one of the first to figure out MGP meta>135/500 sortiesWhy are we still here? Just to suffer?
>>585731585Games started pushing towards smaller and more constrained maps and quick squad spawn dopamine spikes. Battlefield's demise started with bad company 2. BC2 was still pretty good, but it's what really started heralding in cancer like squad spawns on every squad member, tiny maps, crrrraaaazzzyyyy antics, etc.
>>585731818The singularity... is multiplying.
>>585727927I want his take on the F-4.
>>585731719I actually pulled my screenshot from Google images, but yes I guess we mostly shared the same 30year old boomer braincell.
>>585731843>phantom gets multirole cucked out of any damage bonuses>arsenal bird gets damage resistance against gunsPure suffering.
>>585732081The MiG-21 with gunpods will still tear through the Arsenal Bird faster than anything else though.
>>585731952What even is a Pastoral air wing?Doing some religious services through planes?
>>585730889That might be the case but tapping is also a very interesting observational device. Ill quote this story with no source and probably some incorrect factsIn NYC there was a problem, a subway train can pull up and brake and land in different positions, the train operator needs to look out to where they are, and open the subway doors accordingly so they dont open a door that just falls onto the tracks due to misalignment (Train parks too far forward or back, some doors open but dont lead to the terminal, people walk off and fall). It was happening rather often. They made signs that line up with the operator telling them what doors to open based on where they park, and made it policy that people had to look at the sign before opening the door. There were still common instances of the door opening faults. They added one step from japanese train operators. They made it policy to not only look at the sign, but they also need to point at the sign. Instances of the fault dropped almost entirely.To summarize, theres a different between looking, and observing. A person taking off the plane many times might grow numb to looking at the fuel gauge, and one time look straight at it empty, and not have that register to them. Pointing makes them force themselves to observe.
>>585732081Eh, it's not enough of a detriment. I still get MVP almost every Chandelier, even with the frogs.The secret to MVP with the F-4E is splash yourself into the targets when you want to reposition, as it sets up near perfect gun run angles and wipes you from the EX-SAM/AA's focus.
>>585722840Mirage 3
>>585732458Interesting.
>>585732329they deliver you to the promised land
>>585732329They say "Prairie" air wing. So its actually just Sotoan larping. They're basically shepherds for the nuggets.
>>585727927The F-2 is actually the gay, fat and retarded version of the F-16.
I hope the next game doesn't have the F-4Shit ass ugly brick plane
>>585732242Eh. Arsenal Bird's such a simple boss fight there's not much reason to build for it instead of just leveling whatever you want. Lobbies are more likely to fail Scrambles than fail the Birb.
>>585727305Part of it is that the f4 was low hanging fruit.>f4 is cheap, and actually kind of decent for leveling itself. So it's easy to get a gunpods phantom>su25 is cheap, but absolute ass in assault /warfare, so nobody wanted to touch it until they stockpiled enough USB sticks to avoid leveling it>mig is classified as medium tier, and nobody wants to spend those gold blueprints on it
>>585730901Crimson Skies.
How do I PA make those huge cityscapes like Theve or Expo city? Can't be by hand, right? I know Expo is just Hong Kong, do they just pull open source map data and use some sort of tool to automatically place roads and building models?
>>585732329>>585732738I think in this case it might actually be real, in that the pastoral squadron is stationed in some prairie, just like those waiapolo national guard morons were stationed out of a waiapolo mountain base.
>>585727774This is why I wouldn't mind if PA made up some more of their own stuff across the whole tech tree, not just late-game superplanes. X had the right idea with the Apalis and the Neucom prototypes.
Insane that we haven't done an ekranoplan yet
>>585716396My vote is still Mobius 1 because he canonically solo'd an entire fucking war, and only got squadmates during Megalith. F-4 or F-22, he's the only pilot that's genuinely superhuman in even the most tame version of canon.
https://x.com/mochihwat/status/2114430195671425240
>>585733089More or less like all 3D modeling obviously it's easier to do stuff like copy pasting Theve suburbs. Forget what it's called but I do like that bit of UE5 tech that let them eliminate the tree pop in that was so common 7.
What will be the cover plane of the next game?
>>585733321Yeah, it's werid.And they would actually fit Sotoan naval nomad style
>>585733321Just scale up the Caspian Sea Monster and we got a new mid game superweapon
>>585733449Can't wait for Gault 7 to make another appearance in a later AC game as an ally, we just wouldn't know who that is.
>>585733089There's multiple procgen tools that let yoj make that stuff fast and detail what you want after. It's basically like greebling but instead of starships it's planet terrain.
>>585733569I've said it before: have it be an Alicorn type mission where you are chasing it before it reaches its target and launches a nuke.Instead of having a square map, it's a super long map that's effectively a tunnel run/race.
>>585733569Did this thing even work?
>>585733752Instead of making it like a tunnel run, make it an actual tunnel run, where you only get S-rank with max speed and multiple shortcuts. I want to see streamers pasted against those walls by the hundreds while I jink the fucking Earth.
I really need to learn Blender so I can mod all the superweapons I wish Ace Combat had into Nuclear OptionOne guy is making a 500m ground effect carrier (planes in the rear are roughly rafale sized) but it's very WIP
>>585733907It worked perfectly. The problem was there wasn't really any point to it. Just like the Spruce Goose (real plane, not AC8 shuttle). It was made to answer a threat that never existed.
>>585733907It did until a pilot did an oopsie and killed it
>>585733089Allegedly theve is Toronto.
>>585734303Ok we should have let Moon 11 blow it all up. 2 million indians dead
>>585733907The main issues with it IIRC were corrosion from constant exposure to saltwater and a fuckhueg turn radius
>>585733089Apparently the tool they used is called Vantorhttps://vantor.com/blog/ace-combat-8-mission-worlds-vantor-spatial-foundation/I know Microsoft Flight Simulators uses a similar thing. Makes me wish they still made the combat flight simulator series, imagine simulating a global war with that world tech.
>>585733321>>585733752I'd laugh when retards bring the A-10 to the fight and the ekranoplane just outruns it.
>>585734376Given all the yes/no prompts in M29, it wouldn't surprise me if there was a 'side with Tewy'/'side with Enso' route that got scrapped at some point early in development.
>>585734235>It was made to answer a threat that never existedSounds familiar
Would it work in Ace Combat?>>585734565iirc there are plans for a 1:1 full size Earth map for DCS, of course it's DCS so don't expect to hear anything about it until like 2034
>>585733498Su-37
>>585734084Do that for the last part of the mission. The ekranoplane veers inland into a tunnel to try to shake you off.
>>585733569Armaments?Nose and tail bulb mounted TLS.Backtubes can be loaded with anything from xaams, to laams to mpbms to uavs for protection, or "insert superweapon name" for assault.Flares.Has a version that replaces the TLS bulbs with ECM devices.Has a version that removes the tubes and puts a railgun on it.Has a version that can go underwater.
>>585734791if they go russian it's 800% going to be the stupid su-57 because it's the only russian plane normies are aware of
>>585734773>lets use giant walkers on a precarious cliff face>let me fly my escaping ship directly in front of the hijacked walker instead of literally any other direction the walker would be completely incapable of lookingFuck Disney Wars is so stupid
>>585734735I don't know why she had to nuke the battleship. Diverting the spear into the harbor would have kept the Enso zone intact too.
>>585728062>>585729106>>585729386>>585730442A large part of the apparent lack of technological 'stagnation' is that what we have is already good enough and more resource-efficient than more 'advanced options. For military tech it comes down to force, as in F=MA, literally the ability to destroy their personal/equipment by hitting it with stuff. Sure we COULD make missiles which are faster or more explosive, and 'better' planes to carry them. But the stuff we have is already powerful and fast enough for most purposes.>>585722840My favorites have already been mentioned so I'll post J-10A, which looks pretty cool from some angles. This is a nice livery too.
>>585734773I'll start believing it after we get the dynamic campaign.
>>585734946J-10 is a very good looking plenExcept the fat one with the stupid hue hue hue face
>>585734941Causing all that collateral would give them more time iirc.
>>585734907I really can't stand that ugly piece of shit and the glazing it gets.
>>585734946For me, it's the J-7E. Double Delta Mig-21 is sick.
>>585734941Radiation would've made it harder for Enso to just send a crew to cover their tracks, unplug everything, and turn off the lights. That, and she's a dirty Soat who was all for fucking up the FCU and at no point voiced her opposition to the war, just to the other Soats/corpos who were running it.
>>585733321No hydrofoils either>Maple technology before Canada trooned out and jeeted
>>585735081>F-32, our battle will be legendary!>>585735129I like the 57, but i am big mad AHL retconned 35 for an 22, again!I'm certain 30s is a sufficiently known plane so it might have a chance.Or return to funny with a Su-47 or Mig-MFI\1.44
>>585735267That was their claim, but I don't know if I buy it. If anyone had the tech to sneak a crew, or hell even some unmanned drones, into the irradiated zone to set fire to the building then it would be Enzo. Guarding and investigating the facility would be harder while it's busy glowing in the dark. I think tewey just had a woman moment.
>>585735267There's a subtle parallel I think between Sotoa/Moon 11 and DD/Cope/Ray.Sotoa is a full on larp and Moon 11 believes the larp to the point of making ridiculous statements about "raising animals", which Cope says are false. It's all complete fiction to sell the idea of Sotoa as this modern day Mongol Empire, to the detriment of everyone including themselves.Meanwhile DD just wants to inspire people and while at first he also does it with lies, it is when he starts being truthful that he becomes truly inspiring and goes viral as he wants.Larp vs Genuine.
>>585735220God DAMN. I've never seen a double delta fighter I didn't like.
If Sotoa is mongol nomad larp, can Nordennavic be norway viking larp?
>>585736071They glow too much.I bet the "grey men" are a nordenavic psyop.
>>585735681I viewed that more of Tewey using the royal "we" and is speaking for her people rather than herself. Tewey may have lived a sheltered life and never raised animals, but her people did. Tewey may have been squeemish of the blood from slaughtering or castrating livestock, but her people didn't shirk the tasks.
>>585734376>>585735295It feels weird seeing all the self-hating leaf posts in /aceg/ of all places just because Theve is Toronto. Not that I'm complaining about it, it's genuinely surprising to see anti-jeet sentiment slowly growing more mainstream, and for understandable reasons but it's been an odd change watching canucks go from mostly happy shitposters to instantly decrying their state of affairs the instant Canada is mentioned.
>>585722840hellogood morning sirsi would submit for your consideration?
>>585722840Seeing viggen on a stick made me like it more
>>585736363I would fly turkshit before I flew a jeet jet.
>>585736363The Tejas would make for an excellent mid-game plane. I'm surprised PA has never considered including it.
>>585736363They tried to turn an f-16 into a mirage? Or vice versa?
>>585736791>The Tejas would make for an excellent mid-game plane. I'm surprised PA has never considered including it.Maybe early mid-game, like just barely past the Vietnam-era early game planes. That thing's track record is pretty abysmal, not confidence inspiring at all.
>>585722840Concorde.
>>585736791Yes sirs it is very very good sirs please be flying of the Tejas euro jets do not be having of the chance sirsReally though I bet it would fit in the spot around where the Mirage sits in progression. I don't trust anything Indians may claim about it performance wise.
>>585737204I will say it's the Valk, but Concord has the droop snoot advantage.
>>585733498F-16 or F-35
>>585737487I wanna fuck this bird so baddd
>>585737487I just love the swoopy lines of Concorde. It's so pretty.
Just realized the Kestrel aircraft carrier was in AC0 as wellCute detail
I've been enjoying 8 so far and have been thinking about doing the multiplayer shit with you guys on Saturday if you still do that. Is MP playable on Linux?
>>585737204Not a true delta wing
Fuck, just remembered the loudest contender.
>>585736363You can probably hack a Tejas into crashing by accessing the FCS remotely and typing "123" as the password
>>585736656Cool Viggen facts: it can land on grass/gravel/shitty roads and use reverse thrust to back up like a car
>>585738020Nope, Linux cannot into kernel level anticheat.
>>585733498DependsIf Boeing finishes their 6th gen fighter then that.If not, then some original x plane™
>>585737997Yep. In Zero you get to see her shakedown cruise, in 5 you get to see her sacrifice. Also pretty fucking ballsy for the Oseans to go>well, this thing works but it's never been operationally tested, let alone seen any combat>sail her up through this tiny bottleneck, there's Belkans to killThe Allies never had any doubts about how the war would go.
>>585738539Hoffnung tells me they had more plans than just "stopping belka".
>>585738710I mean if there were no Belkans then there wouldn't have been Belkan plots for the next thirty years. Anfang means Beginning, btw.
>>585725467Some tracks from 7 they used for the Arsenal Birds definitely hit the 3 feel. I do think a new game definitely won't be a 3 remake though, at best it will be set in 3's setting, but we control another human pilot or something analogous to that. Nemo would be the enemy probably.They definitely aren't going to do the anime cutscenes again but I could see them bringing back the old character designer to adapt the old characters to 3D if that has to happen.
You've hearee of the delta, and the double delta, and maybe even the compound delta, but have you considered... cropped delta?
>daily Warfare game>spend entire round killing enemies with SAAMs>plonk a Falken a couple times>top leaderboard>double the score of the next highest>still loseI guess…Side note: it’s fucking hilarious to watch SAAMs chase a target for thirty seconds. I hope LAAMs never get nerfed so people won’t realize how busted SAAMs are.
>>585738337Damn
SO WE WILL RISE ABOVEIN A WORLD WHERE EVIL IS REPLACED BY LOVEAND WE WON’T REGRET ITAND EVEN IF WE LOSE THIS FIGHTWE WILL EMERGE INTO THE LIGHT AGAINRISING UP AGAIN!
Chances of Pixy returning in AC9?
>>585739669100%, ac9 is going to be set in 1985
>>585739161Real life egg plane
>>585739518AND WHEN WE RISE ABOVENO BEGINNING NEVER ENDINFINITE BLUE SKY
>>585739161pretty much every delta wing fighter is a cropped delta m8mig-21 and f-106 the only notable exceptions
>>585739669Considering he regrets what he did quite possibly if the writers remember to do a Pixy redemption arc.
>>585740045>Pixy>But this time he likes bordersOh, oh no...
>>585739518Troon-coded sloppa """song"""
Just realised AC5 has the Avro Vulcan as enemy bomberFeel like it should make a comeback, sick of Tu-95sAlso how about the Tu-16 or Tu-22 as a strategic bomber?
>>585740342>hear song>think about trans peopleWhat causes this?
>>585740045>>585740152Pixy fought for ISAF at the end of Zero, he's doing his best. What would be really funny is if he helped rebuild Bulgurdarest, a nation fiercely protectice of its borders. Or maybe he's one of the head honchos of Savia.
>>585740342
>>585740845I feel Savia has to have some connection to Pixy/Ciphereither that or they're just a nod to Project Wingman's Hitman squadron
>>585740152Anon he legit says in the ending cutscene that getting rid of them wouldn't change anything and rather have a world based on trust. So yeah he would be someone who would hate what the Corpos are doing.>>585740845>Pixy is your Savian grandpa character in AC9>>585741090It was weird for the Savians to randomly appear and then not do anything to build them up further.
>>585741090>either that or they're just a nod to Project Wingman's Hitman squadronMercs have been deeply intertwined with Usean shenanigans for the entire franchise, buddy.
Have any of you tried using thumbstick extenders like pic related in AC games? They're usually used for FPS games for finer control, I want to see how well they work in flight games.
>>585739009DROP MORE BOMBS
>>585741797just use a flight stick if you want better control
>>585714687Yeah, the lasers are an assistance for terminal guidance against small and/or moving targets. I thought I had put that in my first post, but I struggled with the 2000 character limit and forgot about deleting it. The stupidly obvious and huge blimps have a reason to be around, although they could probably solve it more elegantly, but very coincidentally they're an equally obvious "here be dragons" sign too.>>585715271Yeah, I take numbers from PA with a very large grain of salt, it's like Warhammer levels of reliability. It's probably best to not think too hard about hard science, numbers and plot holes in games like AC and just roll with it because it sounds really cool. I've found the sudden world domination plot kind of weird honestly. I think 8's at times overly melodramatic writing is its biggest weakness because of the plot holes it ends up creating. Handwaving them away with "ackschyually Enso did it" feels too cheap and muddies the waters too much. Why would Sotoa care about what Enso says when they have the satellites in orbit? Enso can remotely control the warheads, but at least the X-40 has a remote override. Who gets to control the satellites and the warheads in the end?Why would the ship basically go sightseeing for so long when it could just drive to the Elevator and do the thing it's meant to do in the first place? They just so happen to wait until the FCU makes a comeback so they can set up an epic cunning diversion scheme and create the next epic tension-building melodrama moment where the world is saved at the last moment, but at a cost.
>>585741090
>>585741797Unless you're also tweaking the controller deadzone via software, these are useless
>>585738038Ogival delta is a delta variant
>>585731843>>585732081I stopped playing online once I completed the ace pass cause I didn't feel there was much point playing and I wanted to finish my assault record hunt. I do kind of miss getting MVP somehow with an F4 especially against SU34 and MIG31 teams. Would be fun to dominate with an entire F4 team someday but I don't think that is ever to be F4 bros.
what happened to Timur Vinokourov the Su-57 pilot (PRUDENS)?
I played this game a few times I can't count yellow targets.Should have given Pixy QAAM 100% of the time he could have killed more.
>keep getting dogshit teams in warfare>nothing but ecm teams and mine dragging ass>refuse to leave on a loss because of retards>keep going>esortie, alicorn, team is attackers, a few morgans and assorted anti ground stuff, should be a breeze >they're not attacking the primary targets>no one attacks the core>it failsim going to tear my fucking hair out, how the fuck did any of the retards I've been matched with in the last hour make it through the game, or manage to turn their computers and consoles on?
Man, I feel bad for Pixy but at the same time I don't. To have your moral sensibilities so challenged you resort to mass murder to somehow erase borders between countries and end conflict forever.As if that's how human nature works. Like, you dumb motherfucker. You stupid, naive, short-sighted, uneducated, impulsive, irresponsible, genocidal, self-aggrandizing, genuine bitch.Don't "yo buddy" me after what you just tried to do. Fuck you. An giant asteroid accomplished that with the dinosaurs, they're so peaceful now. Yeah, I don't see any dinosaur borders anymore. Good job, asteroid. They're lizards fighting over a cactus fruit in the desert now. They're flying into turbines now.I just wanna shake him.
It feels more like Ace Combat globalists dislike people fighting about borders rather than the borders themselves.
>>585740342True and real, reminds me of that gay normie song sony kept playing in ps4 ads
>>585737320Eh I'd think it's akin to an F-20 Tigershark but with delta wings and somewhat better air-to-surface armaments, so it'd have to sit earlier than a Mirage on any tech tree.
>>585743656nah he's just a retardac0 writing in general is bad even for ace combat standards
>>585743952DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME ARSON AND INDISCRIMINATE BOMBING IS WAR!?!?
>>585741701I kind of want an AC mercs focused game again especially if its an excuse for the player to use older aircraft.
>>585743656Like he's not the first antagonist I've ever seen use the world peace motivation by blowing it up, but it's still not very well thought out, is it.
>>585743625chandelier has the problem that nobody played AC6 and alicorn has the problem that it was skippable DLC
>>585744134Alicorn trilogy is better than the main campaign, thoever.
>>585742982He died weeks before his plane was shot down. Ghost, AI nonsense, COFFIN shenanigans, or just pain old stolen identity, take your pick.
>>585742982It's 100% early coffin research.
>>585744232>weeksyears*, oops
>>585733907Yep, well enough to fly and do actual weapons testing.
What's the lore behind the sudden appearance of one named ace in missions
>>585744134Never played or watched 6, figured out it was a tunnel run by the end of the first opening and closing segment. Alicorn should be easy as shit right after the arsenal bird sortie, it's a bunch of targets with specific ones marked that the campaign trains you to focus on. Yet, somehow I got the team that skipped right to multiplayer.
>>585744232>>585744434Agreed, especially because it shows up in the mission where you fight Luna 11, almost like PA is suggesting it was a prototype for Tewy's interface.
>>585744212People keep saying this and I don't see it. It's good, but it's so short and hyper-condensed with so little story that it's hard to even judge it.AC7's story was alright. Let's not hype it up or say it's shit, I've never heard any casual player talk about the game's story in any positive or negative manner. The game is just fun to play and looks pretty.AC8 has a good story, and looks pretty, and is really fucking fun to play, and looks pretty, again, did you see those clouds? Wait, is that fucking God?
>>585744673They have lore blurbs when you down then that explain why they were there and even if they lived or died. Ace difficulty is canon, if you mean why didn't they appear in the first playthrough.
Planefucker game
>>585745228I wanna be a lil plane nigga with baggy pants and a hot coat
>>585743204it would be nice if we could see the kill stats like this for our squadmates in AC8.
>>585745228I am genuinely incredibly hyped for aeromachina. Not even a planefucker, but the Megaman Legends vibe with aircraft aesthetics scratches an itch i didn't even know I had. Truly wishing the devs as much success as possible.
>>585744995The Alicorn DLC is short, but each mission is perfect.>Unexpected VisitorGreat furball and good use of clouds, and I mean that last part. The way the map is designed is perfect for the inherent systems that AC7 introduced. Also has Shamrock squadron, who probably paved the way for 8's Gemma squadron and others.>Anchorhead RaidPerfect level. I've played this probably a million times, and the fight against Mimic at the end doesn't feel like a drag (like Tewy or Mihaly ) but instead a great capstone to the level's point destruction objective. This is what Ace Combat should be from an arcade gameplay standpoint.>AlicornWhile the first part drags a little, the actual boss fight is among the best in the series - and Torres himself is of course a treat.7's campaign is overall a mess with a few highlights, but the DLC trilogy is nothing but hits.
>>585745228troon artstyle
>>585745569>shamrockGlamrock, excuse me
>>585745617thought the same
>>585743656>>585744019i really thought that they were gonna give PJ the conclusion that pixy ended up getting after that mission, realistically the desensitized cynic isn't the one that gets radicalized at the sight of a bombing run, he even heckles PJ over his morals in the previous mission (the second B7R one). maybe they could've elaborated on his loyalty to the members of wizard squadron to justify his defection at the very leasthttps://youtu.be/EjaxwB8pTXA?t=127something like this feels too sudden but it's also the type of thing that would've helped solidify his characterization throughout the game, instead of waffling about "imagine le no borders" randomly here and there
>>585727774Early 90s game where the YF-22 is the ultimate superplane
>>585745569I think it benefits from being a coherent self contained story because it is short. AC7 and even AC8 the story is all over the place.
>>585745992To me it is level design. The story is good, but all of the levels are really fun to replay. When it comes to 7's main campaign, only Long Day, Fleet Destruction, and Farbanti compare.Modern Ace Combat really shines with these big sandboxes where you can choose how you want to approach the level, and can get really good at speedrunning it. There's no reason for levels outside of the early campaign to be linear or overly self-contained, it's not 2001 anymore.
We'll get them panels oh-pen!Don't let those poilets doy!
>>585746242People will say this then shit on 6 in the same breath. I don't think any of you actually know what you want.
>>585746483I haven't played 6, so I'd never shit on it.People can have different opinions.
>>585727774Bits are easy, atoms are hard. Almost all the technological advancement in the last ~50 years has been in software or electronics to run that software. This is also why the F-35 is basically a flying datacenter but is not very impressive as an individual flight platform compared to 90s tech like the F-22.
shit, my soda
>>5857464836 is vastly underrated. Probably due to console war nonsense.
>>585744025Mercenary as a character archetype is the most boring character archetype that you can have.
>>585746941What if their economy relies on them?
>>585742339>Why would the ship basically go sightseeing for so long when it could just drive to the Elevator and do the thing it's meant to do in the first place?My take is that the elevator is an asset of global significance and that making an obvious beeline towards the elevator likely would have caught the attention of foreign observers and increased the risk of a third party such as Osea intervening to protect the elevator. I think that Sotoa invaded the FCU so that they could invade San Salvacion, and then they invaded San Salvacion so that they could give Battleship 2 a reason to plaudibly get geographically close to the elevator without making it obvious that the elevator was the target. Then they suddenly diverted course to dash to the elevator once they were close enough that foreign parties didn't have time to react.As for the global domination thing, that was Enso's trap. They knew that the Sotoan warlords wouldn't be able to say no to that power. But ultimately Enso was pulling an Ozymandias. Create a monster that they controlled to unite the world against a common threat. Use the weapons to ravage the existing governments, and then use their backdoor control of the weapons to ensure that the unified resistance would defeat sotoa. The Sotoans might not even be a player in the fight. Unbeknownst to the world, Enso might have planned to rug pull sotoa and keep the Sotoans under house arrest on their mega floats while puppetting the spears and automated battleships and Games to fight a pretend war against the global resistance.
>>585746242Most of the missions in 7 honestly blended together for me. Even though there are essentially filler missions in 8 I am enjoying the level design so much more. Outside the Alicorn I really can't fathom why 7 got so much praise.>>585746941I'd take playing a boring merc if it meant more fun gameplay with old rustbucket planes.
>>585727774Has the F-22 ever had any noticeable updates since it entered service?
>>585747772wouldn't you like to know
>>585747772War Thunder forums are more for that line of questioning.
>>585747772Even if it had they wouldn't be public knowledge.
>more tomcat wankeryEnough
>>585747886>>585747886>>585747949>>585748046Even shit like the F-16 and F-15 have more up to date aviônica that are público knowledge
>>585748160Total Tomcat sweep, fighter of the year every year
>>585748160>>585748252swing wings were a thing long before the shitcat
Let's be real.The F-22 is an orphaned platform. The F-35 has made it de facto obsolete as far as the military is concerned.
>>585748525yeah but the 35 is fat and ugly
>>585748525Black Widow would have unironically been the much better long term purchase.
>>585747772It's been going through a mid-life update program recently. Biggest change is the addition of an IRST and ECM(?) pod on the wings. Will likely be integrated with some of the new weapons coming out like AIM-260 and AIM-424.
>>585748567>fatLighter than f22>uglyBeauty is in the eye of the beholder
>>585748525F22 and 35 are apples and oranges.
>>585748860I would agree, but the F-35 is supposedly a 'do anything' platform, so...
>>585748860You can compare apples and oranges.
>>585748630Speaking of JATM, where the fuck is it? Did they just quietly roll it into service or not?
None of it matters because neither of them will ever see real air combat.
>>585749065My dad works at the government and he says there will be a huge war with China in 2 weeks.
>>585748630A /k/ thread was speculating that it's double IRST pods for passive steripscppic rangefinding of targets to better passively map the battlespace.
>>585748525The F-22 is still a better air superiority platform
>>585734941>I don't know why she had to nuke the battleshipExposing Enso was just a pretext. She really wanted to punish the FCU for daring to humiliate her and the rest of the LARPers
>>585749065F-22 did, it was just super embarrassing.
>>585748630Oh, forgot to mention. It's also getting a Helmet Mounted Display and Queuing System. Thales Scorpian. Yeah, the big-dick, god-killing, fighter-to-end-all-fighters F-22 didn't have something a serial production Mig-29 had in the 1980s, life's funny like that.>>585749049It's still plugging along in the background, it's even been seen on an Australian Super Hornet. They're apparently the first export customer.
>>585745228>see a bunch of damage floor grates everywhere that clearly signals "you will get a ground slam ability soon">I bet they are going to call it the Dive Bomb, aren't they?>it's actually called a Mud SpikeReal plane autists made this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_(pilot)Motherfucker was a real life Ace Combat pilot
Is it a rule in military nomenclature that says name designations for personnel, individuals or groups, vehicles, etc. should be less than two syllables? Maximum three? Like it's supposed to be quick to say, so some dumb shit like "thundercloud splitter" is downright retarded. In many other ways also, but my specific kind of retarded is what's important right now.
>>585748630Wait I thought these couldn't be built anymore, are they just retrofitting old ones?
>>585749917Yes. They are updating equipment on existing air frames.
>>585749887The retarded names are saved for Ops
>>585749470The US only started introducing HMDs and the 9X by the 2000s, about the same time as the F-22 entered service, guess they couldn't get assed to integrate something like that when the plane was this close to active service or something.
>>585748525Retard
So what was inside V2? how does one rocket end civilization?
>>585714109I've found they rack up a surprising amount of kills for me in multiplayer. Not exactly SU-34 UGBLs in terms of guaranteed MVPs each round but I've pulled off a lot of MVPs in the F-18E from just randomly chucking 6AAMs into furballs.The most important thing is that you can't really use them for head-ons anymore, which was the primary use case for them in all previous games. The head-on tracking is nerfed too much.
>>585750261Concentrated Anti-Borders.
>>585750261It's just an IBCM aimed at a civilian population.It only makes sense from a Japanese anti-nuclear perspective.
>>585750261It's probably like that doomsday weapon the Russains made, the nuclear powered rocket that flies around dropping smaller nukes randomly
>>585749887The only similar rule I know of is followed in NATO reporting names for aircraft, where one-syllable names are for props and two-syllable names are for jets.
>>585750261It's just a MIRV ICBM.AWWNB weren't known for being rational.
>>585750261It wasn't supposed to be a 100% rational plan. This is kinda obvious given everyone involved who survived either started heavily questioning it, let go, or tripled down
>>585750261It's just a MIRV-equipped ICBM, and AWWNB was staffed with philosophy-obsessed loonies and barely-disguised Belkan hardliners. Either they didn't think it through, or they were only in for revenge against the Allies.
What song plays during the Shadow fight in Escort Orbiter?
>>585750771Outlier I'm pretty sure
>>585750771Outlierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBU-BV-g-fA
Today i did 54 sorties
>>585750902>>585750893thx
>>585750261It could carry up to 8 nukes, so maybe enough to blow up the capital of every relevant country in Strangereal, don't ask me how it would be able to deliver all of them across the world though.
I've devolded into some creature that just rewatches the trailers again, and some streamers play it too.
>>585751329It's alright, me too.It's called "vicarious emotivity" We had our peak of emotions when we played the game\watched the trailer and since we exhausted that pool, we can relive the same emotions in othersYou actually need to be an empath and not a retarded dumb fuck to to this btw.
>>585751329>I've devolded into some creature that just rewatches the trailers againI did that with MGSV's trailers. Some of them were so good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_8Qi-I4o9E
A new era of tweaking autistically in search of the last kph that can be squeezed out of an airframe begins
What are the chances that some of the dev team wanted this mission for the Tonitrus satellite mission, but knew that "new fans" would not have the brain power for newtonian space flight?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-DZuWhV9v8
what are the chances they bring 5 to PC too some day inb4 the preorder bonus for AC9 is 4 or 6
>>585751860I think the problem is the aircraft tree and multiplayer. A space mission would require a new plane, and where does that fit on the tree or into multiplayer?
>>585751976>Trilogy re-release lol, lmao even.
>>585751976God while replaying 0 today i was always thinking about 5. Hope will never vanish
>>585751771This game looks interesting. Is it ever coming out of early access?
>>585751860Probably pretty high. They really didn't want any normalfag to have any trouble with the campaign this time. Sadly makes most missions blend together.
>>585752046Could just put it on the side, unconnected like they do the DLC planes. And the X-40 is in the tree and not in MP either.
>>585752393Yeah, but can you use the space plane in other missions or only the space mission?I think if Ace Combat were to do a space fighter game, it needs to be the whole game. AC3 was overly experimental in a lot of ways.
Death is lonely road. We figured you needed companyBY GOD, WE SHALL RAM INTO THE ENEMY
>>585752158>Is it ever coming out of early access?I don't know but it's been seeing actual development lately after a long period of treading dangerously close to abandonware territory, so there's hope
>>585752585AW HELL YEAH
>>585752496Just the space mission, they've done it before with other games like the 747 in JA
>>585752775And I'm telling you that there is an argument that it's a bad idea and it's not purely because people can't handle it.
Was dropping 5 space sticks on expo city really necessary?
>>585751860I think they would have gotten beaten down as historically a "forced" space mission in games tend to always be shit.
>>585752906>would nuking hong kong at least 5 times be really necessary?yes
why did they have to park the land battleship in the middle of a crowded highway
What is likely to be the next add-on plane? Raven or Nosferatu?
>>585751860Sorry anon, the newniggers from 7 shat and pissed themselves about gimmick missions enough so that's why 8 needs to be complete sludge
jesus going back to the 18E after a few missions in the su-57 feels like flying a whale made of bricks
>>585753202yes bring us back to the golden days of constant annihilation mission slop in ace combat 4
>>585752906>56
>>585753197F-22 -Trigger-I believe they've made F-22 intentionally shit in multiplayer because they plan on introducing a new one soon.
>>585753197Who cares? AI mods have made online and any DLC completely obsolete
more like troonitrus spears
>>585752585He looks like he’s about to promote his new book where he talks about being the one to shoot Osama bin Laden.
>>585751860I thought we would get the F-15 mission to shoot down a satellite IRL where the "shoot down a satellite" part is just that you need to fire right at the highest altitude while stalling to reach it, and the mission's challenge is shadows or something.
>>585753518I would like to give the people behind one of my favourite videogame franchises money to continue their work :)
>>585753674Would have been peak.
Have there ever been any mission mods?
>>585753674This would've been kino. Really hope AC does it one day.
>>585753656Flying moles squadron have no competition when they get in the air, not even "Wings"
I headcanon that after the Kessler event in 7, all nation states vowed to not use ASAT weapons anymore and destroyed all stocks.In my mind, that's the only reasonable explanation as to why the superpowers didn't immediately blow the tontitrus spears out of orbit when it became clear Sotoa planned on burning everything down.
>>585753727Tranny mindset
>>585753296Well that was the pinnacle of Ace Combat mission design according to like 85% of /aceg/
>>585754671freeloading communist nigger mindset
>the one guy who knew how to fly killed himself on take off>the rest of us are totally ready to go and fight the squadron that's single-handedly winning the war! >um what's the long stick for again?
>>585754567Couldn't they use one of these lasers that are everywhere from the ground to destabilize the satellite's orbit?
>>585753518How exactly has AI made online obsolete?
>>585754927>the one guy who knew how to fly killed himself on take offYeah, sure, two bullets to the back of his head.
>>585753197iirc there was a list of future ace pass plens that got leaked a while back, including the CFA-44 -STRIGON- and also shit like the Su-37 -YELLOW 13-
>>585755104I can't wait to pay $10/plane wait for three months to buy them for $7
>>585755027A matter of interpretation, I'd say
>>585754978co-op mod missions better than whatever slop PA will make.>>585754795Ok tranny
It would be better to not have named variants and just release the plane with their skins
>>585755170to be fair from what i remember of the list they at least aren't going full Infinity and adding in variants of already implemented planes yet
>>585755469>co op mod missions>with zero rebalancing, making them far too easyYeah, okay. PvP is still better.
>>585728051>reliable>societal drainPick one
>>585755841They're making their own missions now retard
>oh boy, time to place some ace combat online!>lose 210k to 60k>both of their top two pilots outscored the entirety of our side combinedi am the shitter now
Jesus fucking Christ, why are all you niggers so fucking negative all the time?!>Nuuuuh, MUH LINUX!>noooo, they’ll never balance anything ever!>noooo, they’ll never add more content!>No, they’ll make you pay for every plane!>No, they’ll never do any DLC!>No. nothing good will ever happen!God fucking damn it. If you enjoy the game, then sit down, shut the fuck up, and play the game!If you don’t, then shut the fuck up and leave!It’s like dealing with fucking toddlers I swear.
>>585755170Are they actually gonna be cheaper if you wait?
>>585755469the avg slopper is a subhuman retard who thinks good mission design is when 100000000 enemies
Did you know? If you filled both intakes of the F/A-18E Super Hornet with marshmallows and ran the engines, a mysterious group called the maintenance crew will suddenly appear to beat the brakes off you.
>>585756317Yeah, because watching a five minute cutscene and then being told to take out 15 enemies is so much better.
if the Savian guys (whose economy relies on mercs like them) in 8 are really a tease for 9 leaning more heavily on mercenary stuff as a sort of spiritual sequel to Zero (sorta like how 7 echoes 04 and 8 echoes 5) like anons last thread were speculating, I hope they go all-in on the mercenary fantasy since it was kinda just set dressing in ACZ honestly
kinda wholesome desu
>>585756317Better than anything PA made in the last 10 years
>>585756363I thought that touching the plane wrong would already piss them off
>>585755959Yes, I'm sure they are. Most of these AI vibecoded projects die after the initial hype once the complexity gets high enough that actual effort is required(like for playtesting and balancing).And even then, PvP is still far better.
they really didn't have to go that hard on that visualizer for the music player
>>585745228I'm going to CLANG Bogey
>>585756642Not him but why? PvP in Ace Combat always sucked
>>585755104>>585753197An Anon in the last thread made this listing out all the leaked planes.
>>585756642Cope and seethe, tranny. When online dies in two months I'll be here laughing
>>585756950F-5, F-104, MiG-25, Fencer and EW Fencer, Viggen wowLots of Cold War goodies.
>>585756179>Nuuuuh, MUH LINUX!Because they're not allowed on multiplayer. If Linux was allowed into Online, we would not be hearing the complaints about that.>noooo, they’ll never balance anything ever!It's been a month since the game was released and the only balancing they've mentioned lacks understanding of the problem. This is why people aren't hopeful about good balancing in the future. If they've identified the balancing issues better and communicated them, then this would not be an issue.>noooo, they’ll never add more content!That's because they did not say they will add more content.>No, they’ll make you pay for every plane!This is what they've done historically. They've not mentioned any changes to the contrary. If they did, people would not be saying this.>No, they’ll never do any DLC!Nobody says this, because they did say they will do DLC.>No. nothing good will ever happen!Nobody says this.Here you go, I hope this was helpful anon.
>>585756950>PAK-FAAssault Horizon-themed variant of the Su-57 with the EW1/Trinity SPW?
>>585757213Infinity had Trinity playing as a funny looking MPBM so it's probably the same hereAssuming these are all really happening and aren't just bait left over from development
>>585757179why do people expect infinite freebies post launch anyways
>>585757049AC online will never die because those 100k true AC fans will always hop to make the game a steady 10-15k CCU until the next ace combat comes out, no matter how bad it isYou are the one coping
>>585756763Anon no! Think of the pinch points!
>>585756417I think people are just reading too much into PA reusing the voicelines.
>>585756950Nosferatu is midWhere is the XFA-33
>>585757335>implying it won't be EOS'd by the end of the year
>>585757335there was a hardcore group keeping fucking 7's MP alive for 6 years and that literally never got a single piece of content after launch EVER
>>585757315>providing balancing for your online game is now called freebiesWhat the fuck? What's next? Are you going to charge me to play your game? Like fuel you can buy? Don't be silly anon.
>>585757580dlc planes you moron
>>585756469What are you watching?
>>585756950gib draken and harrier
>>585757620Who's asking for free dlc planes?
>>585757449That's the point. The DLC planes are going to be released as battlepasses. That hardcore group will grind all the battlepasses. They could leave ACO barebone as it is and they would still mantain it because of that>>585757430You don't truly believe that, you are forcing youself to it because you don't want to invest any time in a bad multiplayer, but still you know they gonna put all the DLC planes that (you) want into it
>anti-AI retards still denying abject realitylmao!
>>585757725try reading the post chain
Should I play AC8 in japanese or english? Which dub performance is stronger?
>>585757818>I can't point to the post asking for free dlc planesOk then
>>585757819Baxter's English VA is pretty meme worthy, but Japanese Tasha is better.It's one of those 'both dubs have their strengths' situations.
>>585757635Ushio Ebi (vtuber)She also cried
>>585757816You're on 4chan, stop pretending to be better.
>>585757810I don't need goy DLC when I can make whatever plane I want already
>>585756950all that garbage and still no fenrir, no apalis, no forneus, no cariburn
>>585758058Power to you sisterShare them with us when you do
>>585754927>>the one guy who knew how to fly killed himself on take offGot his shit remote-killswitched by Enso because they needed beta testers with zero combat experience
>>585756950>CFT f-16
>>585754927ENSO wanted to try the AI Systems on the FA-36 game, that didn't work at all (excluding the moment in which they shoot down Kate, then the rookie deactivates it)They were literally an ENSO experiment, like Luna 11 and like GR testes on Rena in AC3
>>585758316It was fun in Infinity
wonder if they'll bring back the ADLER (be it the actual ADA-01A that was cut from 5 or just the ADA-10B from Infinity)
>>585756950If they give me all the planes in a single dlc for like 30 or 40 bucks i might consider it, otherwise piss off desu
>>585756942Has it? 7's shootouts were pretty fun... if you banned the Strike Wyvern.8's warfare mode is also pretty well designed and encourages good teamplay... as long as you don't run into TLS/ECM Morgans.Playing with a stack of buddies from the thread was very fun.
>>585756950>no Harrier, F-117, or YF-23 despite all their models being in the game already
>>585758447Or at least the Desert Rock version was.
>>585754927Gemma is a joke squadron. That's what makes them hilarious and what makes Ventus the GOAT for calling them out and telling them to fuck off.
>>585757725I am Especially reskins. Charging 5 burgers for a reskin is inexcusable, I don't care what fucking stat buffs or weapons they have. I'm glad dlc unlockers exist.
Guys we need to do something
>>585758952GIWTWM
>>585758952PLANESFIELD
>>585751860it does seem like they were thinking about it but it would also remove the AC4 callback where you defend a launch at comona. there's also not much in space except the satellite which just needs a zap to its weak spot. i think they looked at it and decided to add a superplane boss fight instead as a consolation prize.
>>585758952
>People actually think Online is going to go anywhere>When its already bled most of its players>When the devs refuse to update it
>>585759413see>>585757810
>>585756763Bandit will CLANG you first
>the devs who want mp to die because infinity gave them generational traumavs>supreme autists who will play it anyway for 5000 hours
>>585759526The devs are already doing everything in their power to not update it and ignore the glaring flaws
is there any point to holding on to supply tickets in online or should i just use them when i get them
>>585758809need someone to draw Gemma 1 as a POW getting a train ran on her by FCU grunts
>>585759334Fucking Jenkins. He's such a himbo.>perfect body>gravy catcher>rejects onions>calls baxter an asshole>will hold tasha responsible for the lives she tookTell em, jenx.
>>585759978why would you want to see dicks in your pornography?
I'm just realising "Mavisinem" is turkish/persianMavi means blue.Sinem is a common woman's name.She's basically called Blue Simone.Sinem also means "my heart" so her name is "My blue heart"
>>585759992I like how onions fell out of the grift sphere and yet this site still filters it
>>585759919I save them for emergency sorties and scrambles to get more value out of them.
>>585760109Mavisimen. Simen.As in semen, the stuff she was full of before she got fucking pwned.Your waifu is L faps.
>>585758952>OM NOM NOM, OM NOM
https://x.com/GoldenJoysticks/status/2114718742558974326The comments are angy
Why would I care about some goyim joysticks award thing? The fewer normalfags know about your game the better
>>585760813>Fuckin Co-op slop and Pokeslop
>>585760397In that case closest word I can think of is "sima" which means face/visage and "mavi simen" would be "your blue face"
>feel like taking the Prowler out for a spin>matched into an Assault game>myself, three F-14As, three F-4Es and a Pixy>wonder why I get stuck in a low-level game all of a sudden>accidentally NIPPON BANZAI myself into a destroyer. TwiceOh, I see. The game saw my future and put me into the 101st Retard Air Wing. Very good.
>>585760813Rightfully soI left one as wellOur beloved game series will never win anything
>>585760813>DispatchBut that came out last year.
>>585760813This one mad eme laugh
>>585760813i chuckled
>>585761183
>>585761183I'm surprised this line isn't talked about more.Most autistic larp shit i've ever heard.
>>585759919Even if they do something with this whole system (lol), regular tickets aren't gonna have anything good in them, may as well spend them.>>585760246He means the gacha tickets, not the contracts. At least, I assume so.
>>585760813>Bad game that needs modders to make it halfway decent isn't on therewoah!
>>585760246those are the contract items though, i'm talking about the supply tickets you use at the supply house to get random boxes of stuff
>dude stonehenge but it moves>dude fortress intolerance but it floats>dude alicorn but instead of crisp white sheets its the crew that is crisp(y)>dude arkbird but smaller and does PSMs>dude pasternak but turkish>dude arsenal bird without bullshit plot armorI miss nukes
>>585761398i bet project wingman is right under zero for you
>>585761014>Forza Horizon 6Even forza fans don't like that game. It pulls numbers because it's literally the only multiplayer racing game out there that's a game and not a sim.t. Forza enjoyer>Crimson DesertWide as an ocean, shallow as a puddle, the game.>Pokemon PokopiaJust there so Nintendo fans don't feel bad.What a shit lineup. No wonder people who don't play games think gaming is dying.
>>585761398>dude SOLG but not retarded
>>585761398there were nukes, but from space and non-radioactiveThink of the environment
>>585760813the fuck even is this. dispatch was released in 2025
>>585761398Boy do I have the game for you
>>585761621Does it play well on a xbox pad?
>>585761515I hate PWs writing it reeks of amateur hour
>>585761674Yep. The head dev uses an Xbox pad whenever he does a devstream.
>>585761398"Superweapons" completely ruined Ace Combat. The series was better before 7 brought that garbage in.
>>585761771thanks>>585761735i retire what i said and i call you based
>>585761830What? Super weapons have been a thing since 2
>>585760813>Forza Horizon 6>the literal Thing: Japan desperation play that's already fallen into the same patterns that drove most of its predecessor's playerbase awayFuck off.
>>585761830did you only play assault horizon perhaps?
>>585761830
>>585762206And yet I still got two fish.
>>585761183>>585761237>>585761249She said 5 minutes before nuking Rosita's sheep
>>585751860I think that would've taken too much away from Neucom. Their high altitude/space capabilities are considered pretty advanced in-game, GR has to strap modified future Blackbirds to rockets just to have a chance at intercepting Neucom's first attack on White Valley base. Plus part of Zero Gravity's appeal is that nobody in or out of the game was expecting a weaponized spaceplane to intercept GR satellites, having the broke bitch FCU pull off something similar ten years prior to the Intercorporate War would take too much away from Neucom's shtick of dangerous bleeding edge tech.
>>585762268It wasn't her, retard. It was the other officers in Sotoan High Command, they literally have a cutscene explaining this to you.
>>585762268tewy didnt send the tonitrus strike on rio bajo, the director general of the army did
Does the jukebox in the multiplayer lobby only play songs from 0?
>>585761523>>Crimson Desert>Wide as an ocean, shallow as a puddle, the game.Fucking this. It's starts off great but then you quickly realize it's a fucking Chore Game where 90% of what you do is chores (collect these items, deliver this item, do these challenges ect ect ect for miniscule rewards)
>>585762268Why is this general so fucking stupid? No wonder you fucks love AI jingling keys in your face
>>585761523Pokopia is ironically the most original Pokemon game since Snap 1.
>>585757819You've got at least four campaign playthroughs to get all the medals. Just switch languages between playthroughs, it's always worth experiencing both.
>>585759919Do you want anything from the current gacha pool? If yes, spend them. If no, hold onto them since they'll likely switch it out next battlepass season. If they don't then you haven't missed out on anything, you'll still have a bunch of tickets for the same prizes.
>>585762680>most original pokemon game>copy of animal crossingYou're not wrong but it's not a high bar to clear.
S Rank: 7 SP missionsA rank: AC4 and AC8B rank: AC6, ACZ, ACXC rank: AC5, AC, AC2D rank: AH and PWNo rank: AC3 (you HAVE to play it, cannot be ranked)
>>585760813>a bad forza game>a game that came out last year>a game that hasn't even come out yet>fucking BIG WALK This is easily one of the worst goty nomination lists I've ever seen.>>585756316I have no idea I'm just speculating.
>>585760813>Galactic RacerWeird pick, but whatever. I do enjoy that vidya awards make people just as mad as oscars and so on, really drives home the idea that all these ceremonies are ran by out of touch fools.
>>585762476the season is zero themed so it seems that way
Rate the United States Military's strangereal setting.
>>585760813This shit's rigged anyway, who cares.
>>585764815Better worldbuilding than strangereal, but that's to be expected since they have a much bigger budget.
>>585765225based and rafalepilled
The water impact right after I took off was kino
>>585763581>AC4>A Rankyou're kidding, right? No way you enjoy killing ground troops for 20 fucking minutes straight
>>585763552That's why I said "ironically"
I actually played through most of the campaign with the Rafale my first time round. LACM+LAAM is a god combo.On the topic of LACM, I can't believe that they actually managed to get Storm Shadow / SCALP-EG production restarted. It's been 15 years since the last one was manufactured. Truly you can just do things
Should I just assume AC8 is not going to present in the best OST nomination either?
>>585765902I'm doing my multirole/ace/s run with rafale and it's been much easier than elite so far. Being able to just delete land aegises with one click is fun.
>>585763581>AC8 A RANK>AC5 C RANKnigga they are literally the same game. You either love or hate em both wtf
>>585760813All that's left of Dorito Pope's circus is the clown show.
>>585733321>>585733569It's kind of disappointing, with China developing them now I thought AC8 had a chance. Would have been cooler than the not-arsenalbird transports.Will have to settle for replaying World in Conflict again.>>585733907>>585734235>>585734452The main problem with ground-effect flight is that perturbations in terrain become perturbations in pitch stability which is why they have fuckhueg tail surface to compensate. Even then the KM/Lum-class couldn't sea state above ~3m which is why they were basically restricted to the Caspian Sea's relatively calm waters. Other ekranoplanes typically have limited cruise flight ability (at the expense of fuel) to get over such obstacles as well as for turning but the KM/Lum were too heavy for that.
>>585766175AC5 has excessive amounts of forced flying scenes where you're not allowed to do anything so people can talk.AC8 doesn't constantly waste your time so it's much better. It does have the fucking alcoholic submarine but it's still nowhere near as bad as 5.
>>585766132doesn't aegis have ciws?
>>585766276fwiw the golden joysticks is a different reward some british magazine runs that predates jeff kellog's show
>>585766651>turns out I was the clownfugg :DDD
>>585766565From my experience, if you fire off LACM at long range the CIWS just doesn't engage the missile, I think the AI turns off at range. Stack lock range mods and you'll delete them unopposed. It was like this in 7 too. You could delete the AEGIS ASHORE in Anchorhead Raid really early on like that.
>>585766538>forced flying scenes where you're not allowed to do anything so people can talkBesides having a mission dedicated to this, AC8 also has this almost every mission from mission 20 onwards or so. If you're clearing things fast enough at least.
>>585766565Never had lacm get deleted by ciws. I think it does top attack and ciws is unable to fire directly upwards maybe?
>>585766779> if you fire off LACM at long range the CIWS just doesn't engage the missile, I think the AI turns off at range.That's probably why LAAMs are just so devastating vs AI planes.
>>585766779>You could delete the AEGIS ASHORE in Anchorhead Raid really early on like that.Sorry, not the Aegis Ashore, they're offline anyway. I was thinking of the carriers and Aegis in mission 11.
>>585733321>>585733569>ekranoplane mid game fight>2 of them>they function similarly to the ladons>you fight them in that AC5 ocean map with the caves (Solo island)>you actually have to follow them in caves to do the high DPS because outside of the caves they have a shockwave shield powered by space lasers or sunk...kino....
Which part expands LACM radius? Can ABE work?
>>585766986>ekranoplane fight>shoot a missle in the water in front of it>the wave clips and destroys the boss
>>585766986also missed opportunity>possible (but hard to do and not mandatory) destroy the HEAVY ROCK HANGING FROM THE CEILING to OHK one of the two of them
>>585766986Where's that map from?
>>585766786Not to the extent AC5 does it. The amount of time you spend in 5 flying in circles killing a few slowly respawning enemies while people talk is crazy.
>>585767276interactive maps>https://acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Special:AllMaps
>>585767134I don't think anything can.Bomb parts are so much better than missile parts it's not funny.
>>585767550>LAAM can't oneshot>LACM can't even reach wide cluttersso my Savian mobile is useless
>>585767683>>585767683>>585767683
>>585755170I can't wait to be forced to pay per plane because they will never let Linux play online.
