>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesName reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.Previous >>585537298
>ele shamans
BUFF MAGES
>>585562262How did they get a photo of me >.<
>>585560786>there are plenty of games and even wow-types that are hardcore prog experiencessuch as?
Casual/Dad/Girl gamers are the heart and soul of Forever.
>>585562324this anime is peak
>>585562262They need to add a long quest chain that gives you a blue flame animation like warlocks had in mop.
>>585562737>Casual/Dad/Girl gamers are the heart and soul of Forever.they are black villains, the most underhanded rogues imaginable
>>585562761>isekai slop>peakpick one
>>585562931Shangrila is not even isekai, just hardcore gamer fun. Give it a watch, unironically
>>585562931im finna go on an isekai binge while i wait for forever desu
>>585562367>try to look into it>virustotal karpesky malwarebytes say it's fine>the CF support client for this WoWup has fucking ads in and first shit it ask me about telemetry and patreon shit running a deep scan on my computer right now in case that shit was pozzed maliciously rather than just only jewsihly
Daily reminder:If you use curseforge, make sure to disable EVERYTHING (Purposes, Features, Vendors and Legitimate Interests) Takes about 10min.>Reject All Purposes doesn't reject all, you have to manually disable many of them.>Enable to disable buttonMake sure to enable "Disable Amazon Publisher Audiences">Autostart / Running in backgroundJust disable that shit, honestly. Just start that app once a week and update your addons.Richard Stallman would unironically call this Malware. Take care, frens. It's not harmful, but the defaults are disgusting.
>>585563021I use it for 2 mins once a week, its fine
>>585562262>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkkqbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/fAmJnY5w<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QEFCzxf>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVB<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | Discordlesscan we slap this into the op next thread?
>>585563021I haven't used curse's clients since it was commonly accepted they were a cancerous entity only good for manual downloads as far back as the original run of TBC. It's no real surprise it's just as bad if not worse now, but people sure love convenience.
>>585563020yeah because it was part of the deal to make them allow use of their API to fetch addons>We will let you use Curseforge but you will have to run our ads and harvest telemetryboth >>585563021 are pozzed adwares
>>585563161can you stop shilling your pedo trooncords?
horde still the pvp pick even after humans get the pvp trinket racial?
Is a double Z name first and last too cringe?
>>585563170>>585563206Based, honestly, I want to remove that shit. This is App is full of dark patterns and abuses ignorant gaymers. I heard about FOSS alternatives, but CurseForge loves to break APIs and keep their monopoly. I just hate to track single Addons. Will the game just tell me, if an addon has an update available?
>>585563442I just add addons I use to favorites and track them that way without the app. Some do say if new version is available in game too.
>>585563442>Will the game just tell me, if an addon has an update available?no, although some individual addons do that
im not sure about this rp-pvp thing
>>585556987You want real schizo on schizo combat? Go hang out in SC2's general chat lobby, that shit has been unmoderated for years.
>>585563021I'd rather update my couple addons manually than install this crap.
addons should be banned
>>585563860why
>mage sucks now
>>585563860It will be filled with people unwiling to rp that rolled it just to evade streamers.If you want to rp roll rp-pve.
>>585563378yes don't crowd alliance even more I want people to kill
What are the most lore-accurate classes for each race/gender?
https://youtu.be/jvlUKdyrsr4Dadgamers watch this
>>585564146because like 99.9% of people cant use magic:Human -Warriornight elf - warriorgnome - warriordwarf - warriororc - warriortroll - warriortauren - warriorundead - warrior
>>585564146>Any race female>Cumdumpster
>>585564141gnome it is
>>585564197I can recognize AI voice now
>>585563021It takes 2s to install addons manually though
The only addon you ever need is Openmaps
>>585564197I will take a free dayI will pay restedXP, auto accept auto turn quest, follow the blue arrow and have an XP/h meter all the timeI will ignore every retardI will play the most meta classI will tell everyone to fuck off for two weeks while i get lv60 and get into a non retarded guild
>>585564619goycattle moment
I work 7am-4pm and home by 5pmI get plently of time in the evening to not need to get a whole of just half a day off
>>585564785>7am-4pmAir Force?
>>585564556>It takes 2s to install addons manually thoughDo you get them from github? do you have multiple sources?
Is Holy Nova any good for farming?
Resulotion: 1024 × 768Graphics: Turned downMax FPS capped at 15Youtube playlist of metal songs from 2002-2006 activatedFraps, turned onXpearl, installedIt's gaming time
>>585565034No but starting that early is comfy because it's super optimized time>wake up around 5, breakfast dress up out>gacha dailies on commuteNo dead time between waking up and making money for goldstein
>>585565237Dont forget to throttle your Internet connection.
>>585565149No you always have the option to download them as zip folder on curseforge itself
>>585563021holy shit this list is so long
>>585565034NTA but for me it was cooking aide at a school thingy
>>585562737I want to meet a cute girl in forever, but no skelf priest so i have to play alliance to find them. wtf nintendo?
>>585565237/console showshadow 0 /console shadowlevel 1/console giquality 0/console maxlights 1Now we're goin places.
>>585565237Launch night:>servers launch 1AM local time for me>get home from the wage cage>walk dog, eat and goon>set battle.net to offline>discord to offline>no 4chins, jewtube or anything I can see a streamer on>wake up 4AM>level to 25 day 1>level to 40 day 2>level to 47 day 3>level to 54 day 4>level to 60 day 5>not a single whisper from my friends or message read on discord>turn on battle.net and trooncord after I reach 60 and comfortably farm my pre-raidYeah, 5 days of absolute peace and quiet while leveling will do the job. I hate people.
>>585565380Stay strong, fren.
>>585563021I can't even find these settings in the app. Do you need to make an account and login or some shit?
>>585564064>pvpers that want to avoid streamers will flood it>pvpers that want to play both factions will flood it>splits the roleplay userbase>if one faction is entirely dominant on pvp, players will stop logging in on pvp and log into their rppvp toon instead (which they already made on launch so no faction lock)it will hurt both rp and pvp scenes
What are you supposed to do if you're undead and a warlock fears you and you press wotf and he fears you again?
>>585564785lunches should be illegal>dont you want to take a 1 hour lunch? thats so awesome and freeing!no id rather just go home an hour early, fucking corpo scum
>>585565835Just click on the cog then on privacy and then on Manage (Ads Personalization & Data)
>>585565913You eat shit 1v1
>>585565913yeah i feel like they could've left the immunity at 3 seconds at least because they gave that to escape artist
>>585565785ill probably be close to the same except it will probably be slow in the 50s because i will just start on prebis farming as a healer and with the gutted dungeon exp its gonna suck
>Alliance racials are op as fuck>every streamer is rolling Alliance pvp server>huge faction imbalance because of this>alli gets locked immediately on launch day (potentially on name reserves day)>non-stop crying onlineHow will Blizzard handle this situation?
>>585565913Hope he's dumb enough to do it a third time when the shorter DR one breaks. Be ready for your potion/heal when it breaks if you don't die mid fear. Or hope you have a pvp trinket by this point or die
>>585565949NTA but I don't see any "manage" option.
>>585565913you dont care because its dr'd to fuck
>>585566146>How will Blizzard handle this situation?>"Hey claude, how do we handle this situation, make everyone happy and no mistakes."
>>585564254I encounter more human priest in everyday life than I do human warriors. All the time getting religious pamphlets and shit pushed my way, never seen anyone carrying a sword or broadaxe.
>>585565232no
Want to play healer again.Can't into druids.Only race id play for shaman is skelf (horde) so I have to pay.Already played priest (Holy) through WotLK on both classic and vanilla.Paladin is dumpster tier but i actually like the idea of undead paladin.
>>585566523druid is giga easy though
>>585566146ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
>>585566146They probably won't unless a big enough fuss is made, but the question I feel should be asked is, would it be better to buff horde utility racials and leave alliance's alone, or nerf alliance's. Honestly I wouldn't mind if certain races were harder or easier to fight as a specific class, as long as went both ways for the factions.
>>585566146the only busted racial right now is the alli skelf, everything else is within margin of error
>>585566146They need to make this the effect for both skelfs, this is simply overpowered to have on any caster.
>>585566593I feel like a dummy not using most of my tools. With priest you get a lot of different flavoured healing tools and the other utility make me feel like ive mastered something. Similarly I felt shaman has a lot to be desired due to having one one healinf button but the fact I have totems and could interrupt made up the fact my healing is straight forward.I feel that druid has so much stuff going on I wouldn't know what to do with it, due to all the forms.
>>585566146>Alliance racials are op as fuck>>585566523>Only race id play for shaman is skelf (horde)Horde is so fucking cooked hoooooly
>>585566770in pve druid isint that complex but I get you if you are talking about pvp
>>585566770druid healing if you shift the healing is a joke and your gonna swipe as a cat or your never shifting
>>585566642>>585566671they really need to just delete humans and gnomes racial from the game
>>585566160>NTA but I don't see any "manage" optionWtf, that's weird. Look it's right there. I just searched and found this from CurseForge support:>https://support.curseforge.com/support/solutions/articles/9000233785-gdpr-ccpa-installation-processBecause of the different privacy laws in Europe and the US. In the EU, GDPR and cookie consent rules. In the US, there isn’t one universal federal law that requires the same consent options everywhere, so CurseForge might not show you the "Ads Personalization & Data". You should use a VPN and connect to Europoor, lol.
>>585566642At this point they should just roughly mirror the active racials that would be used in pvp if they're having so much trouble making design choices, even if it would be the most soulless outcome imaginable and a sign they'd homogenize classes with interrupts, stuns, and slows if they could get away with that.Human/Orc - Stun breakDwarf/Undead - Stone Form could be justified as turning their mind to stone to break charm/fearNight Elf/Tauren - Nature attunement or some shit idk, this is the hardest oneGnome/Troll - Escape Artist/Voodoo Shuffle Skelves both given the same kit.I don't know, this entire idea is stupid.
>>585567224So euros click Don't consent and everything is turned off?
>>585567224Ahh, that's probably it then. I'm 'Murrican.
>tank stops in in front of a dungeon pack>marks mobs>jumps up and down a couple of times>keyboard turns left and right a bit>turns around and looks at the rest of the party>"r?"
OGRES
>>585567303>So euros click Don't consent and everything is turned off?On most of the stuff. Like when you visit websites and they have to ask you for cookie consent, but there are still some dark pattern sites, who trick you into consenting with big buttons and shit. Most people just click on agree.>>585567315>Ahh, that's probably it then. I'm 'Murrican.Trump needs to fix that shit
>>585567324SOVL
>>585567324your men my lord will follow you to whatever end
>>585567324
>Mr. Clean's first name, Veritably, originated from a 'Give Mr. Clean a First Name' promotion in 1962Priest? Mage?
>>58556732450% chance it's a Tauren Warrior
>>585567691fire mage
>>585567691Meister Proper goes hard
Is it ethical to roll on something you don't need with the intention of giving it to your buddy in the group
>>585562931Isekai is unironically the peak of Asian media. EVERYTHING becomes better if you just turn it into an Isekai.
>>585567863not really but i do it
>>585567349What are his 4 racials, and what new class could he come with that fit both factions.
>>585567863reminds me of when I tanked a maraudon and all four of my party members rolled on blackstone ringand I fucking won it
>>585567949this but it was runeblade of the baron and even the rogue rolled need
>>585567863highly unethical, but if you can mask it as "oh I'm in offspec I need it for my main spec" and then slide it to your buddy, that's somewhat acceptable
>>585567863My buddy would roll and if questioned say>I need you to not have it
>>585562262I love fat bitch
>>585567863Everyone does this in the cancer that is SR/MS>OS pugs.
>>585567863my buddy rolls if he loses i roll to try get the W, he does the same for me
>>585563021WTF they're giving you all these cool mods and manage them for you and you can't even give a little bit back?
>>585563021I just Use WowUp. It doesn't have all of this garbage right?
>Get bored waiting for Forever>decide to try out retail for shits and giggles>realize halloween event is still going on>do headless horseman>get the fucking mount first tryDid they make this shit 100% or did i just get stupid lucky?
is thrall ele or enhance?
>>585567914Bloodlust: Haste and all damage increased by 10% for 10sec. After it wears off, take +20% damage from all sources for 10sec.Body Slam: Fall on the enemy, dealing damage and stunning them and yourself for 3sec. Immune enemies take bonus damage instead.Fat: Damaging attacks against you have a 5% chance to be completely nullified. Retarded: Reduce the duration of Fear, Charm, Mind Control, and Silence effects by 20%.Necromancer
>>585568447Umhhhh....nyo
>>585568538he's farseer
>>585566724>Not even Channeledlol
>>585568598Which is Elemental.
>>585568528It does if you want curseforge support because otherwise they block the API for them
>>585568568>Retarded: Reduce the duration of Fear, Charm, Mind Control, and Silence effects by 20%.kek
>>585568447Addon devs can host their shit on github and you can download them via WoW Up. Curse is just adware cancer for no reason.
>>585568041>>585568146>>585568205>>585568265anons will tell you this shit and then say personal loot is bad
>>585568532wrong thread we wouldnt know we dont play retail slop
>>585568538Thrall's dumbass is an ele shaman that think's he's 2h enhance but uses a 1h weapon.A proper midrange Farseer spec/class would have been cool though.
>>585568658Yikes, you're right. I managed to disable them on the app though. Thanks.
>>585568735yes its bad, mmos are for being social, we get rewarded with more rolls for making friends
>>585568637Even if you ignore having it up for 15min and just on CD it's by far the best racial.In their recent "buff" to the horde racial they also made the alliance version able to be cast while moving.As the tooltip says it doubles ALL mana regen, you can pop it before eating/drinking and have double the effect, before evo/innervate and even before manapots but they recently fixed that interaction in particular.
>>585567863>Is it ethicalBro, I'm the heal, my friend is the tank. We will always double need on the stuff we really need. You should be thankful, that we basically run the dungeon with you. I'm sorry, this is unethical... yes... I know, I'm sorry, but I will do this. We support each other... please don't be mad. I know this is wrong, but he is my one and only friend and he will do the same shit for me.
>>585568532>Did they make this shit 100% or did i just get stupid lucky?They made it stupid easy to get.
>>585568735>anons will tell you this shit and then say personal loot is badKEK
I wonder how many retards are rolling prot warrior so i can be the only chad tank in the realm
Holy shit, I just realized I've spent the past month planning what I'm going to play largely based on AI hallucinations.So many sites, even talent planners and shit, have talked about profession bonuses. +5% health with mining, ring enchants with Enchanting, etc., it's in video guides and everythingNONE OF IT IS REALThere's no official confirmations, there's nothing datamined, people reached 300/300 in game and there's nothing, it's all fucking fake, but it's everywhereFuck me I hate this timeline
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>585569452>+5% health with mininguh yeah i was wondering about that, i heard it too, but then never saw it anywhere
>>585569452jej
with 10 days left my slop media consumption is growing at an alarming rate..
>>585569452I was so hyped for mining and herb passive stat bonuses too
>>585569556As much as I enjoy all the easy slop coded stuff. The amount of AI videos disguised as advertisements for RestedXP is through the roof. It makes me greatly question their quality.
I will not be doing engineering because I will be roleplaying as a night elf druidHow is leatherworking? I heard crafted gear is pretty good now?What about alchemy? Enchanting?Wish I had tried the beta but I didn't succumb to peer pressure until it was over.
>>585569452You guys realize forever is going to be getting actual balance patches, right? This isn't just classic snapshot where we play on the last patch through the entire thing. Basing your pic on some weird beta dps simulations is beyond retarded.
Holy kino Asmon played Azeroth survivors yesterday this will be a good watch!
>>585568532Absolutely no one cares about that mount on retoilet anymore. There's like 3000 mounts in the game 2500 of which are recolors or reskins
>>585565913this
I want to play, but I have debilitating social anxiety and other mental illnesses, so the social aspects are terrifying. Plus I'm low IQ and just bound to fuck something up
I spit on dis general
it's uphttps://youtu.be/OCMxkDGz2Dc
>>585569934king...I heard he's been the recent focus of rampant character assassination on retail lately.
>>585569934I hope we kill the blood elves and have the amani join the horde this time.
>>585569452I believed the same until a few days ago. It was in icyveins guides, there's still a massive AI summary when you google it.I guess it's a good thing? Mandatory mining for PvP and every cloth user going tailoring + enchanting would be lame.Guess I'll go engineering + tailoring for my gnome priest, that sounds funner.
>>585569974>Tauren not SSSS tierAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>585569452Correct, it was all fake. AI saw we where getting nitro boost for engineering and just grabbed all the wotlk profession bonus as "real" when we barely had much info about Forever on the web. a day after the Blizzcon Demo there was a ton of ai generated sites posting false info about Forever just to get clicks
>>585568532>WAAAAAAH WAAAAAAH I'M REWARDED FOR MY EFFORTS AND NOT FUCKED IN THE ASS LIKE I MY SISSY CAGED UP SELF NEEDSPeople like you are everything wrong with wow community
>>585566897What's wrong with choosing a race/class combination because you like the animations?
>>585569974>Dwarf A tier>Troll S tier>Nelves bottom tier???>best races for GOLDFARMINGOh. What a weirdly niche topic, do people play solely to farm gold?
>>585570016icyveins was sold year or two ago and since then it was nothing but ai gudes, it's absolute trash website now, forget it exists
>>585569989Yeah, the latest thing in retail is amani and the blood elves. With the amani all the amani hate him because of what he did and it made the loa abandon them. He had two nephews and one of them was a mini zul jin and the other is a heckin womyn girl boss. Everyone haed mini zul jin and he died like a fucking bitch while sucking off his sister then the heckin girl boss united all the amani because shes so cool and strong and made all the loa speak to the amani again because she isn't an evil chud like zul jin and then she made the amani and blood elves friends because shes such an awesome leader.
>>585570302I hope forever is at least half this epic! Let's fucking gooooo!!!
>>585569989Who hasn't been character assassinated or flanderised in retail? Not even dying could save them from shadowlands writing. They even woke Bolvar up to have slyvanas peg him.Not counting Garrosh.
>>585570239I see, thanks for telling meI pop in and out of WoW every year or two myself, so I missed its enshittification. Are there any 'good' sites / sources for WoW nowadays? I just see endless AI thumbnails on YouTube and what feels like AI summaries elsewhere
>>585570302>another girl boss at the cost of shitting on a bunch of old stuffI really shouldn't be surprised at this point.
>>585569974I'm not gonna click this video but by the ai slop thumbnail I can already tell what it's gonna be like>some retard doing a tier list for pve when racials don't mean dick for that>they put human in sssss+ tier but also fail to realize their crit bonus doesn't work for auto attacks so a bunch of sims are wrong>they put orc in low tier even though blood fury is still insane but it got nerfed to 3min cd so every retard thinks it's bad now>they ignore the fact that orc still has 1% crit as well>they think tauren and dwarf crit damage sucks despite the fact that we have real data from retail showing those racials are good>they ignore the bonus damage to beast/elemental racials despite making a pve tier list
>>585569452>it's all fakeWHATI think nearly everyone's profession picks was based on this shit.
>>585570229>Oh. What a weirdly niche topic, do people play solely to farm gold?It was common to make a mage or hunter alt in classic just to gold farm with.
>>585570229The entire channel is about goldfarming.I remember actually looking at a couple of his videos in tbc classic when I farmed for some boe crafted items..I just wonder, does he make a living from this? he seems to get viewers recently because of wow forever but seems kinda shit otherwise. Seems like he's trying to sell some gold farming guide? Who buys that?The videos I remember were completely mediocre too. It was basically just "farm these guys for motes of mana" without any tricks or anything.
>>585570625Love how mage gets fucked because of bots and boosting, but hunter still gets to solo the world and was always also an extremely popular bot class.
>>585570682>retailfag trying to teach anyone anything about classiche's an idiot
>>585570698Lowkey a lot more classes in Forever are gonna be viable for soloing gold runs unless they add some fucked up gimmicks to high level dungeons that screws over solo players.
>>585570465i mostly moved on from such websites lately as they are all kind of shit, mobalytics might be ok now since it prides itself on having guides only written by creators they partner with, problem is that quality might vary greatly, but if any AI slop is spotted they get shit on immediately and promptly ostracized, at least happened in some other games on that website, i haven't really used it for anything w:forever related yet, but might give it a try
>2026>still can't play with my french gf if im on american servers>they made sure to make everyone a nigger thoits ok to have priorities but its also ok to have standards. suck my dick blizzard
>>585570682I have never once found a single useful gold making video. It is ALL either clickbait or useless farms.>farm here for 10 hours to get this transmog drop that will never sell on the auction house!
Orgrimmar...home...
>>585570682The guide he's selling looked like it was filled with AI / bought reviews.>"It's good every time" - Bengal72>"one of the best guides out, Studen is Awesome on Youtube and twitch" - Anonymous>the guide isn't even available, it's a prepurchaseThe videos are just a big grift to shill his garbage scam I think.
>>585570465wowhead is alright depending on who is writing the guides for your class
>>585570598I'm white so I don't get tricked by blatantly ai shit.
>>585571003Seeing this feels like I'm back in 2006 looking at shitty RuneScape gold making guides on Ebay.
>>585570902>>still can't play with my french gf if im on american serverslil gup actually thinks hes "dating" a "french girl" online
is we getting profession stats?
>>585571150People who make gold guide videos have literally not progressed their content in 2 decades. Every vid is just "go here, farm for this thing, pray it sells on the AH".
>>585571178lets set that aside for a second tho>little gape can't explain why its impossible for a 30 year old game to implement some means to facilitate what i am saying
>>585569974>tl;dr, just pick human because crit, stun removal, and spirit are always good no matter the circumstanceWow, so exactly the same as everything else.
>>585571003He was trying to sell that back 5 years ago so I don't think it's ai.Honestly I'm curious what even would be in there. I can't imagine it's very useful because what you earn gold from changes all the time. Also, who checks a goldfarm video wants to buy a guide? They probably just want to farm enough to get a couple of things.
>>585569974>grind gold in the chink inflated market, competing with actual unsleeping untiring machines
I will choose to play a Shaman.Why? Because it can literally only get better from this point on. Blizzard can't hurt us anymore. All they can do is buff.It's all smiles.
>>585570465just use the resources from the classic class discords
>>585571150
>>585571540I will choose shaman because enhancement was really fun in beta. Just give me a big hammer and I bonk.
If you want to make gold, you should kill turtles in Zanaris and sell the drops to a vendor.This tip was free just for you.
>>585571187everyone is picking the one that craft their armor + engineeringthen there are handful of alchemists who will just make money all day
>>585570682all gold farms that get put on yt are all shit gp/h because the knowledge becomes common and it gets gigafarmed
>>585571540They will take our riptide and make us dual wield again instead of using cool two handers...
>>585563021Hmm stop noticing things
Will Horde still be able to turn in clams to that troll on the docks for 70s a batch or whatever it was?
>>585560219Nigga, go talk to a therapist, Jesus Christ
>devs try to make engineering not mandatory by making SAF-T versions of items that non-engineers can use>so now if you don't pick engineering you are just constantly paying gold out the ass for stuff you should have crafted yourselfThey essentially buffed engineering by giving them a way to make gold off idiots who didn't go engineering
>People said Blizzard wouldn't make Skelf OP because it would appear 'pay to win'>Skelf is now literally the pay to win race after the most recent buffsEpic. Simply epic.
>>585571540>Why? Because it can literally only get better from this point on. Blizzard can't hurt us anymore. All they can do is buff.Here is the last "buff" they did.>remove 6% crit from lightning bolt>removed the range increase from the flame shock talent>massively reduced base damage of fire nova and its SP coefficient
>>585570076>effortsspamming some mundane dungeon over and over is just autism
>>585571827This is a good thing, glad to make money as engie. Also ferals can use goblin sappers in form.
>>585571827So engineering is now like alchemy, enchanting or blacksmithing for consumables?Woah...
>>585571696What if they give us Lava Lash that could crit just as hard as a double windfury crit because enhance should be doing dumb shit at its core?
>>585571827its a hunter buff because the new arrows cant be sold, so they need even more ways to make money
>>585571827They also just added more new engineering items that don't have saf-t versions like the goblin glider so no matter what it's still bis.
>Want to play with friend and got invited to his group>They are going full sweat>Told me they will be skipping questing till level 5 on release to grind mobs in two man groups>They want to roll AllyI don't fucking want to do this. I want to level by my own pace and have fun. But I also want to have friends to play with. What do you do in a situation like this.
>>585572014Does that only make 200 arrows? That's a crazy money sink.
>>585571751Wtf
>>585572003Give us lava BASH, a 2 handed fire based skill that applies flameshock to the target and doesn't put other shocks on CD. Can't proc wind fury. Get rid of maelstrom weapon. This is an unga bunga spec.
>>585570076lil gup you need to take a break from all that gay chastity cuck porn, your inventing scenarios just to make it about your fetish
Getting worried, bros.Should I buy the Sky Elf package even though I'm not entirely sure if I'll play one just to be able to reserve my names...?
>>585569452>>585570016>>585570598Keep in mind Blizzard purposely removed a bunch of stuff from the beta so it wont get instantly datamined and metagamed to hell before launch.
>>585572089yeah 200 a time
>>585571903The point was that engineering is OP but is a massive money sink.
Why are they like this?
>>585572272For stuff above level 30 yes they did hide a lot.For stuff below 30 they fucked up and accidently didn't include it in the beta. So now they will play it off like they totally meant to keep this stuff secret for launch hehe
>>585569706leather working you the glorious chair, 2% crit boost. you also get to make tents which gives you a 1 and 1/4 bar of rest xp at camps.leather gear is better than it was. you can even make bags.
>>585572269if your names are generic enough that someone else would take them, they are shit and not worth reserving to be quite tbqhwy with you
>>585572272>browns coping and doubling down on thinking its actually real just so they don't lose izzatCan't make this shit up.
>Don't be a vile cheating parse/speedtranny>Don't have to worry about Israeli mod managersLife is good
>>585572195No I actually hate this gay chastity stuff. Just let your cock be free man nothing wrong with having it
>>585572359internalized misogyny
>>585572014light feather prices are going to be around 1g a popgood thing my mage is going to be a skyborne
>>585570229why is gnome so high for gold farming?
>>585572417if everything was the same as WoW classics launch, i'd agree with you to an extent, but the entire planets playerbase is gonna be split up just twice, pve and pvp, with some spergs and gooners in rpve.You'll have to be VERY creative to not be cucked out of your chosen usernames within a day or 2 on launch, even with the last-name addition.
>>585572272The profession stuff was fake because it all came from ai sites that got made before we even had the beta. We have dozens of different versions of WoW so when they asked the AI to find info on this new "Forever" version with no info yet on the web it just pulled random shit from wotlk like the profession bonuses.
>>585572359why are you like this?
Am I the only one who thinks that are DPS racials are disproportionately overrated? Like how much of a cuck do you have to be to believe that an extra 0.5% DPS increase on your weekly parse is as impactful as having 20% Health Regeneration in Combat?
>>585572014fuck playing a hunter i guess
>>585572725No one cares about the dps racials lil skib. Read the room.
>>585572725it's the bellcurve meme
>>585572725I just miss my 1% hit.
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>>585572595So everyone just believes what Al says now? Has society fallen?
>>585572725Every single good player knows the dps racials are a total meme. Utility racials for pvp are the only thing that makes a difference.
Bros my youtube recommended is just full of AI videos telling me the top 10 things to do/not do on launch...
>name reserve in 2 days>still can't think of a last name
>>585572575Names are across all rulesets btw.
Can reserve a name if you have that recruit a friend thing?
>>585572359it's performative. their own personality is so abhorrent, so they try to subvert those who do by pretending to hate the easiest thing to hate, because it's the least effort required to feel they have successfully infiltrated their enemy's society in order to destroy it from within. you know who.
>>585572812Most people where pointing out the fake profession bullshit at the time. I don't know why there is suddenly a new surge of people believing in something that got debunked a month ago.
>>585572565Higher mana pool, and an occasional damage increase + mana reduction.I'd just keep it simple and go human, personally. +5% spirit and +2% crit basically equals both of those things but it's simpler and constant.
>>585572812Path of least resistance. Humans are lazy and stupid.
>>585572857They should just let people pick a different ruleset freely once a week or two.
>>585572725>>585572827Trolls are busted, but only high IQ people can see that. Same with Tauren. Makes me happy because they're very unpopular races.
>>585572842>not [Noun][verb] or [Noun][noun] related to your racewhat is your race, chud?
>>585572842I'm mad name reservation is in 2 days and my friend still hasn't decided what server to play on.
>>585572857I wonder why they would do that? They plan on all rulesets playing together?
>>585572725you really, REALLY do not understand how health regen works if you genuinely think that will be even noticeable at level 60. That racial is trash tier beyond level 20 or so, just due to how health regen scales.
THEY WILL FIX EVERYTHING BEFORE LAUNCH. EVERYTHING WILL BE FIXED STOP LAUGHING
>>585572930I planned on going gnome regardless because they are my favorite, I just assumed move speed would be far and away a better stat.
I can't pick a nameWhat do I pick for a fem human holy priest
>>585572958They should have just made 1 pve ruleset and 1 pvp ruleset and each ruleset has like 20 servers you can choose to play on (like Runescape and XIV) and you can move between these servers at major cities. This solves layering, faction balance, and keeps some semblance of server identity. RPers can make their own community on X server instead of having an entirely separate ruleset/server for it.
>>585573021my friends are split not only across rulesets but also regions its a fucking nightmare
>>585572839I could be worse, at least those are informative
>>585573159Gloria Perpetua
>>585572812>google something>first thing you see is a block of text describing it>then videos going into it>then websites talking about itIf everything you see reinforces it, you can hardly be blamed for assuming it's real
>>585573159Lillie Brightvalley
>>585573159Stillama Leanon
>>585572839BEFORE YOU PICK YOUR CLASS MAKE SURE TO DO THIS ONE THING!
>>585573010human male priest>noun verb>breast grab?jim breastgrab
>>585573207I'm stealing that before he can use it for a fem pally.
>>585572087Call them cucks and send them pictures of your big fun having dick.
>>585573159sissy faggot
>>585571540enjoy playing ugly races kek
what is an S tier erp class/race combo?asking for a friend btw, he's a proper degenerate.
I can't be the only on that preferred when we just had one name right?They should have at least given us the option to just have one
>>585572905No. The recruit a friend link thing starts on Nov 4th, same day the servers go live.
>>585573646elf druid. can erp as animals and elfs can talk cross faction so you can erp with all the elfs in moonglade.
>>585573646>Female Nelf Druid/Hunter/Warrior>Male Orc Warrior/Warlock/Shaman>Female Undead Warlock/Mage/Priest>Female Human Priest>Female Gnome Priest/Mage/Warlock
>>585572725>having 20% Health Regeneration in Combat?>losing health in combatlmao
>>585573646Nelf, Skelf or Human female Hunter. Knots.Nelf or Skelf female druid. Barbs. Human / Gnome female Warlock. Succubus.
>>585573646 my personal fav is fem tauren druid
>>585572087levle at yoru own pace, levle 60 is the end so you'll eventually catch up and you can play with thm then.
>>585573646Why don't any of the WoWtubers I watch who spam me with tier lists ever do an ERP one I wonder?
>>585573703you can hide the second name from yourself
>>585573159Rayah Sunshine
>>585573646>female night elf roguebackstory is that years ago a teldrassil branch fell on your head during puberty and now you are a mentally retarded, hypersexual elf woman who stealths around azeroth trying to get random players to use you, before vanishing away
>>585573159Free UseStress ReliefVillage Bicycle
>>585573159Bocefia Boniface
>>585573159cum dumpster
>>585573159Horde Property
Is everyone here just in a perpetual state of horny or something?
>>585573646we've been over thisfemhumie paladin
>>585574303pussy in my ass
>>585574303>general full of 40+ y/o single menwhat do you think?
>>585573159Mary ClarenceDeloris WilsonDeloris (Van)Cartier
>>585572839That's why you need to remove them from your watch history bro
>>585573159ona hole
I have a name for a hunter that is really cool and funny. Just not sure yet if I'm gonna be dwarf or skelf. Aesthetically I think dwarf fits it perfectly but I'm not sure if I'll ever play a skelf orherwise
>>585573159Lillith Onawhole
I used to make badass characters all time, now I simply cannot bring myself to roll m*le of any sort.... except if those races females are ugly, like dwarves, then I'll roll a m*le.
>tailoring, blacksmithing, or leatherworking (depending on your class) for the BoP items>Engineering as the second profession, because it's the only other profession that does something that can't just be boughtIs this going to be every class?
>>585574661I expect a lot of people to level with their classes armor profession then drop them at max to get money making professions or engie.
>>585569014>Bro, I'm the heal, my friend is the tank.Comfiest duo comp ever.
>>585567863If you do that, I (the healer) will leave and you will wait another 30 minutes for a replacement
>>585573740But I want to be fucked by tauren men as an alliance, not erp with faggot elf males and yuri elf women.
>>585574661I kinda wanna do Alch+LW, but I'm not really sure if that's a "do that shit at 60 or on an alt when you can fund it" or viable on a first time char while leveling with light gold farming breaks. LW+Skinning seems comfy, but Herb+Alch seems like it could be a bit annoying with the sheer amount of people even if I'm running around on a druid.
>>585567691He's gay, right? Just a feeling I have with the absolutely 0 hair on head besides brows, the single earring, rocking just a white t-shirt. I'm just a saying, he gives off daddy vibes.
>>585575060He looks gay but appearances can be deceiving
Night Elf Druid forms are just too good. No matter how hard I try, I can't bring myself to roll anything other than Nelf for Druid purely due to the forms.
>>585573971Yeah I know but that doesn't really do anything since everyone else sees your last name, I am sure I am not the only one that has an online nickname they used for 20 years and now I have to add some retarded last name.Also you end up seeing 25 different undead paladins named [firstname Lightbearer] because all of these niggas have no sense of originality
>>585562262Do i look like a pissed off chuddy dwarf?
>>585575310just do the same name twice
>>585575310xxxx Desu
Forever lost
>>585575163So you're a zoophile.
>>585575310which one is worse, stereotypical rp last name or just the name of the class?
>Over 200 names that I already have planedHonestly the hardest part is knowing which ones to go for first.
>>585575335you look like you're gonna have to play resto if you want to raid
>no ogres are coming>no actual new classes are coming>all "new" races will all be recolored existing races with a premium fee to unlock>all "new" classes will be backported retail classes with a premium fee to unlock>multiple consecutive censorship updates>rmt and botting will be even more rampant than og classic>gdkp will once again be the meta, "ban" will not be enforced or will be circumvented by organizing on discord>cash shop and wow token implemented within the first 3 months>you will continue to pay a monthly subscription for a 22 year old game with a cash shop>project gets abandoned by the devs within a single yearall of this will happen.
>>585574661it's fine for first character because you don't have the gold to buy all your BoP and it's just better and more fun to craft them yourselfAlts are minmaxing gold farmingYou make a main with whatever you wantYou make a bank alt you maybe get lv1 or even leave at 1 and you make it Tailoring+Enchant and you dump on it cloth and shit to disenchantAnd you make an alt dedicated to optimal gold farming about anything not related to enchanting or if your main lacks good world farming
>>585575726class names are restricted and cant be taken unless you use accents é
>>585575761>no, ogres are comingftfy
>>585575735you sound like an absolute turd sniffer from india
>>585575761Remember, when you all come crawling back to /wowg/, the shitty Skyborne porn is not allowed.
>>585575761NOOOOOOO YOU DONT GET IT BLIZZARD HAS TONS OF NEW RACES PLANNED AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OF RELEASE TONS OF THEM.
>>585575873they dont settle just for sniffing
>>585575824sure but you can use stuff like Pally or Warlockguy
Is there even one situation where blue elf druid beats tauren druid? How could you ever beat the warstomp + heal combo
Are you going to play with or without addons? If with which ones?
>>585575757No
>Blizzard didnt wanna blow their load too early thats why they added these retarded non canon Sky Elves>its actually a good thing they didnt add Blood elves and High Elves
>>585562262>those Instagram bimbo fish lipsDisgusting.
>>585562262>those Instagram bimbo fish lipsbeautiful
>>585576010well you need to get close to stun anyonein world pvp the glide is nice and 3% haste is decent unless you only spam instant cast spells
>love tauren>don't want to play hordefuck
>name reserve opens up>"LEEROY JENKINS", "ZUG ZUG", "TAZ DINGO"nothin personel
>>585576071all you need
>>585576071Gonna play with classic ui addon, leatrix plus and spoken.
>>585576340Legitimate question, what do you even need questie for? Everything it does is also done by the in game quest tracker now.
>>585576071classic UI, bagnon, leatrix, DBM, Details, dungeon journal, Quartz
>>585576451It's better, it shows more information on the minimap.
>>585576071No, I'm not gay
>>585576451you need questie to see available quests on the map
>>585576451In game quest tracker doesnt show where to pick up quests, level ranges.
>>585576451It shows the locations of quests you can pick up on the world map
>>585576071decursive, thats it
>>585576340Atlasloot is worthless because it's still filled with vanilla item stats and dungeonjournal is betterFaster Loot is worthless because you can just enable that with Leatrix Plus
>>585576340Rested XP does most of those things in a single addon.
>>585576685>>585576674>>585576651You can do that without questie though, just toggle it on through the map icon tracking.
>>585576237Dorf is the right answer
>>585576825proof?
>>585576817Isn't that the paid one? I can't afford it and also don't want to steal from creators.
>>585576825Questie shows them on the world map. You can only turn them on the minimap without.
>>585576071A dominos and shadowed unitframe equivalent are the main things I feel like I really wanted when dicking around on the stress test unless I just couldn't find the UI setting to break up the action bars in the way I wanted to since that was my first time prodding around blizzard's own take on addon style options.Quartz, and bagnon are likely since i just don't really like the way blizzard's bag consolidation looked.
>>585576825WORLD map you dumb bimbo
>>585576910Not like i can load it up and take a screenshot right now, but I never used questie and had the quest icons show up on the map for me.
>>585576943>don't want to steal from creators.What a cuck mentality. They just stole speed running strats and sold it as a text guide.
>>585577067You know what you're right. Fuck those guys.
>>585577041we are talking about ! on the world map, not ? or ! or minimap
>>585576071powerauras
I feel I may seriously be putting my relationship at risk with how much I'm gonna be playing WoWF.
Reddit is nostalgic for SoD now and acts like it was the best game ever made. They say Forever is fine, but SoD was on a completely different level, and they wish blizzard had carried over more of its features.Are they correct?
>>585577187Why do you need to see quests on the world map when they show up on your minimap? Not like quest don't direct you to hubs.
>>585576340atlasloot wont have any of the new gear
>>585576109rimjob lips
>>585575682zoo(mer)phile
>>585576340this is all you need
>>585577338>redditeven if they are, they're not
>>585577339nta but quests unlock at different level ranges so you could be high enough level to get some quest in a capital or clear out all the quests at the cross roads and then later be high enough level to get new ones there.>>585577369your right, he might as well uninstall it. atlasloot will never ever get a single update.
Are all the forever addons just slopcoded conversions of existing addons, or are some people properly porting stuff?
>>585577339have some humilityit is very useful to see available quests, their level ranges and objectives when planning where to go nextalso useful for completionists
>>585577557correct
what is it about wow that attracts players with the most overinflated sense of main character syndrome? and if not that then, at best, total adult babies
>>585576451Real answer is questie shows the actual spawn point of mobs and items
>>585576490what's the difference between details and the vanilla damage meter?
>>585577603What's wrong with slop ports? I've asked claude to do it myself and it works fine. Addon devs are lazy fucks.
do I need to buy name reservation to guarantee my faction on pvp on launch day? I assume they haven't addressed this at all?
>>585577796yes
Someone should vibe code an app to download addon updates from curseforge
>>585577669You know remember the WoW spider swim animation.
>>585577868Curseforge already does that though?
>>585577946Not without malware tier spying
>>585577603The same devs just add a forever version like they did with retail/classic/etc
addons get brought up in Forever>what addons everyone using for launch? :)>you should try X addon it's a better version of Y addon :)>hey guys what addons should I get? :)addons get brought up in Retail>REEEEEEEE ADDONS ARE FUCKING EVIL HOW DARE YOU CHANGE HOW YOUR UI LOOKS!>ION FUCKING SAVE US FROM THE ADDONS PLZ BAN ALL THIS FILITH!>ONLY SCRUBS USE ADDONS YOU SHOULD TRACK ALL YOUR PROCS BY LOOKING AT THE 50 BUFFS ON YOUR BUFFBAR!
are they adding the jiggle back or not? the reddit posts keep getting suppressed
>>585578140no they arent fixing shaman either
Addons are fucking evil and should be banned. Only scrubs use addons. Default UI is all you need.
>>585578036are you genuinely retarded? the same engine is used in forever. the same add-ons don't work in forever. maybe nobody is reacting like that because the conversation has already been beaten to death
>>585576071RestedXPAtlasLootLeatrix PlusLeatrix MapsMinmapButtonButtonNpcAbilitiesPrat
You HAVE to farm these Legacy points anon. Trust me on this. Make 6 alts and level them all to 60 you are not gonna regret it. Stay HYPED
>>585578036I will NEVER respect people who change their UI to minimalistic garbage for "efficiency"
>>585577475openman feels more annoying than anythingOneForAll is based thoughMakes some profession,talents,leatrix,dugeon and some other qol addons redundant
>>585578251>RestedXP
are they going to balance horde racials or what? have they said anything about patching shit pre-release? as it stands the entire faction is doa like this
Alliance is now the min max faction. What does this mean for future of horde?
>>585578336I like using the full classic ui but with a fade option when im doing nothing to look around.
>>585578475Wait til name reservation. When they see the insane amount of Alliance characters being created they'll announce an emergency Horde racial buff.
Human females owe me sex
/v/ is laughing at us again
>>585578484Don't know, I plan on going fishin on my Tauren Druid, Orc Shaman, and Undead Priest.
>>585578557i'd wager this may happen but knowing blizzard, they have no shame in doubling down on retarded decisions.
>>585578635Its easy to laugh at people who still give money to blizzard.
>>585577475>Check one for all Damn, does it have literally everything?
>>585578402>valuing my time>doing things efficientlyinfamously black traits
>>585578475Genuinely the only thing that needs fixed is touch of the grave. What they did to that racial on the patch can only be described as "RAPE"
>>585576071not sure between Dungeon Journal or Dungeon MasterBut OneForAll has a dungeon tab too so maybe both are redundant
>>585578484All the streamers are going alliance too. The only horde streamer I've heard of is that fat tranny barny and hes going on rp-pvp.I went horde last time every time but I want to have stormwind and ironforge as capitals. Will be a dwarf shaman. I'll keep rp-pvp free incase they add ogres then ill make an ogre there.
>>585578780Blacks lack the capability to think ahead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN4VVPGa1YA
>>585578484It means free wins for the Horde in every BG since the Alliance team will always be filled with streamer chasing zoomers.
>>585578841meta slaves and other like minded sheeeple genuinely deserve to die. the amount of men switching to alliance just because they're feeling fomo for not playing the best racials or feeling hive minded since all the streamers are switching to alliance for the same reason... actual bug "people"
>humans have to equip a sword, the most common weapon type in the game, to get 2% crit>I sleep>humans get 2% crit>EVERYONE FUCKING REROLL ALLIANCE RIGHT NOW
https://files.catbox.moe/dqebwb.mp3
We're using Journey, no idea why people are mentioning RestedXP?
>>585579245any where to get full version for free ? if not ill use rxp
>>585577475>OneForAllWhy didn't this exist in classic before?Some new API calls or is it all thanks to Claude?
>>585579245the MOST one should use is QuestieAnything more is fucking cuckshit especially if you pay for A FUCKING LEVELLING GUIDE
we're gonna buy both restedxp and journey
>game is literally about exploring a revamped world and some of the most casual shit ever>"I'm going to speedrun it for maximum efficiency :)"modern gamers are such a blight
>>585579418yeah its because of claude, its full of ai slop pictures too.
it really annoys me how much of the community that plays this game are insufferable blizzard cocksuckers that will defend them in every opportunity and help them suppress any discontent being voiced, the subreddit is a big example of those "people"they game will have no chance of being alive for more than 3 months if we don't force blizzard to fix things now but those frail losers are so afraid of the game being unpopular they can't even realize they'll be the ones killing it
>>585579582i genuinely don't understand why people need restedxp or any of these other guides. i feel like i'm getting truman show'd. with quest markers and arrows being added to the map itself by default now, and breadcrumbs everywhere, you don't fucking need help seeing where available quests are
>>585579157the current meta is to bitch about the alliance skelf racial that makes them strictly better druids and mages than every other race while also parsing the highest on every melee race available to them.the intent is to make it only affect spirit regen and stealth nerf the innervate/evocate/drink interaction despite the wording being consistent with how innervate and drinking interacted in vanilla/classic. this change will likely not be announced since they already said they dont want to touch racials going forward. people will then gaslight you into believing thats how it always was and what was originally intendedhumans getting 2% crit when they dont have another dps racial honestly just doesnt matter all that much in comparison
>>585579717people think the game starts at 60 and need to get to 60 as fast as possible. they're the people who buy gold so they can pay mages to boost them or just buy gold in general.
i miss times when we had sexy loli slop posts
What kind of gay retarded junkie uses a leveling guide addon?
cant wait to gank hordies in hillsbrad fields !
>>585572725more damage is more damagealso healing is healers job.
>>585579717It made sense for all the different classic freshes because most people had done the journey before and just wanted to hit 60 fast.In Forever it makes no sense to use these guides because the creators haven't even figured out a route for above lvl 30 yet or have optimized all the new stuff added.
>>585579418It's just an aggregration of mutliple addons.There's some new stuff exclusive to Forever that's fairly powerful.
I like smoking weed and following the arrow
Anything else? I don't really want any gameplay side, other than quest tracking, and easier way to find myself where to go in the world. Also they mad a setting to make text bigger in game, right? The only other thing I'd like to is chat filter. Any suggestions?
>>585562262theres a tab on the UI called "journal" that can be used to help with quests.
>>585578903I know for a fact that you are not thinking further ahead than the people that did the guides on restedxppost screenshot of your fastest unassisted /played 1-60
>>585580034goynip addict
>>585572796>naming yourself after D*ybre*kvery unfortunate choice of name
>>585579824The skelf racial DOES only affect your spirit regen but innervate and evocation also go by your spirit regen so they stack.
orcs are stronger and more powerful than humans
how do I have one of those clean UIs?with the nice health plates and all
>>585579920retoiletroons and classic parsetrannies are going to race to 60 and then quit because all they can thinking about is the nuwow gameplay looplet them filter themselves out
>>585580190take HRT and install ElvUI
>>585580164it also affects drinking the same way as innervate does
How the fuck do you level to 25 in a single day without some restedxp buttplug vibrating in your ass everytime you walk off the designated path?
>>585580384Neat thanks, can I do it without the HRT, or its necessary?
>>585576071Probably just decurse
>>585580401journey
>>585576071I downloaded 24 addons that sounded cool or useful, ended up only keeping about 7 enabled during the few hours I spent "playing" (sorting settings out in the stress test). Might disable one or two of those, didn't feel like you need much in Forever.>Auctionator (didn't use the AH, but probably still near mandatory in Forever)>NodeSight (shows gatherables as their icon on the minimap, instead of everything being a gold orb.)>Questie (just to see quests on the map, all other features disabled)>RareScanner>ReverseEngineering (shows the raw constituent materials needed to make something.)>TrainerSpells (shows you at which levels you unlock upcoming abilities)>Dungeon Journal (much easier way to see quest chains for a given dungeon instead of going to Wowhead)
>>585580465it's not optional for the most minimalist and efficient UI
i am going to make female gnome priest and name her moist child
>>585580401people got to 20 in 9 hours just doing the dungeon quests. also why the fuck do you want to rush leveling so bad?
>>585579717they need it to happen NOW because their synapses are fried from gooning
>Campfire>Nobody ever has a tent>Half the time doesn't even give you buff when someone placed a fishbowl etccool feature bro
First time rolling hunter. Is skinning/leatherworking basically mandatory?
has windfury been used in any wow cinematic?
>>585580660I don't.
>>585580687Yeah since you're not ever getting let into a dungeon so you have to make your own gear. Then at max you drop them both for engie and mining to make your own bis ammo.
>>585580679You WILL sit down and SOCIALIZE and not do group content in an organic way.
i miss pochie~
>>585580871she is about to get fat cock, isnt she?
>>585580687leatherworking is shit while leveling. get mining + skinning and buy the lw shit off the AH since it will be dirt cheap anyways
>>585580401>buttplug vibrating in your ass everytime you walk off the designated path?You probably could vibecode that with TomTom or something, any time you are not orientated with the guide arrow it stops (or starts, your preference).The future is bright
>>585580974i mean it has been done for ages. I always have either vibrator or plug when playing and try to see how long i last
>>585578251>MinmapButtonButtonThere seemed to be one of these by default now, I had to disable all of the minimap buttons because there was already a Blizzard UI button that also contained all the addon buttons.
>>585580687no
Will there be a character limit?
>>585580871My wowf gf looks like this
>>585580687engi is way better for guns, scopes and ammonot to mention bombs and other toysits super easy to level too compared to LW
>>585580970>leatherworking is shit while levelingthats what i was assuming to be honest>>585580848dungeons wont be a problem im playing with some mates, didnt know about engineering though i always avoided it on other characters
>>585580384What about EllesmereUI?
>>58558113420 total characters per account
>>585573094what's in need of fixing?>m-muh mudhut pvp racials
hype dead
>>585581358shaman, paladin specs besides ret are also pretty fucked up right now.
>>585581358layering, dungeon xp, class balance & endgame that isnt raidlogging to name a few
>>585574551that's my gnome mage (male) tho
>>585581473layering is never getting fixed
>>585581358game layers you mid combat with npcsgame layers you from your own party members in the middle of doing a quest togetheryou can still buy gold safely via the AHoriginal classic quest rewards got hit with nerfs because they are literally using an AI to make rewards weaker and the devs dont even know what was a classic quest and what is a new quest
>>585581473>let me boost to 60 with dungeon spam and complain that there's nothing to doyawn
>constant layering when walking 2 feets to any directions on ascension>this is fine>get layered once off from asmon layer in middle of 20000 player lag orgy>I CAN'T BREATHEE!!!!!!
>>585581358>Shaman is shit>Dwarf is still a joke race (lmao +1 cheese from looting chests)>Undead went from the single best race for every DPS to arguably the worst race of all, trashThose are easy fixes that will significantly improve class and race variety in the game>sharding is still fuckedNot so easy but desperately important, this alone is going to ruin PvP servers
WHEN IS BLIZZARD GETTING BIOWARE'EDSEVEN YEARS AFTER CLASSICNO NEW RACES PEOPLE WANTEDNO NEW CLASSES FROM WARCRAFT 3JUST FACTION AND CLASS HOMOGENIZATION AND A NEUTRAL RETAIL PAY2WIN RACE
>>585581793all those things are coming soon frfr no cap on god anon
>>585580679Tents shouldn't be allowed in towns.
>>5855817932 more weeks
Bros.... the jews did this to us
Less than two weeks until we get ogres
Palabros...LOL
>>585581793wow has 5 million subs between eu, usa and kor, blizzard is going nowhere bucko
realistically what will the horde dalaran be
>Classic is WC3+>Forever is Classic+>still no Demon Hunters>still no Brewmasters>still no Death Knights>still no Dark Rangers>still no Tinkers>still no Necromancers>still no playable Naga>still no playable Ogres>still no playable High Elves>still no playable Amani>still no playable Broken>still no dance studio>still no constructible fortifications, destructible buildings, or siege weapons>still no public quests and dynamic area eventswtf
>>585582223Some mudhut in a rock desert.
There's no talk about fixing layering, which means this is basically going to be an instance based open world game. That's a huge step back from 2004. Somehow, they seem to have lost the technology to make it work the way it did back then.
>>585582223an earthen ring outpost thats like half the size of dalaran out in the middle of nowhere that has some shaman class quests like how dalaran will have mage class quests
>>585582331I legitimately don't understand why anyone ever thinks Naga of all fucking races would be playable. Even ignoring the effort required to make them work, in-universe they're some of the most evil fuckers in the lore who fucking hate everything besides themselves and everybody detests them.
>>585582196Blizzard is holding several legendary franchises hostage and making a pittance of what they could be making to employ troons and morbidly obese dykes and grannysThey can't even sell any merchandise because the entire blizzard brand is only known for being turbo pozzed faggot shitSubversion and demoralization is apparently way more important than making money
>>585582223>we NEED exact parity between the two factions in ALL thingsI fucking hate people like this so much
>>585582223I'd love a troll city.
>>585581247Same shittake the HRT first
>>585582223Believe in Zul'Aman.
>37.5% PvE>37.5% PvP>10% RP-PvE>15% RP-PvPHuh, more people are going RP-PvE than I expected. I was imagining 1-3%, especially after the RP-PvP announcement.RP-PvE bros, it might not be as over for us as we thought... Should still be a good 100k+ players.
>>585582424Rogue chad domed that faggot elf get layered on
>>585582424no tech is lost, layers from 2019 were exactly same with each zone being its own walled instance, except there was equal number of zones per layer, so every zone in layer 1 was assigned (1), every zone in layer 2 was zone (2) and thats how it felt seamless, but now it's a megaserver and they don't want to waste hardware running 800 layers with equal amount of zones, while game needs like 3000 of elvynn forests it has no need for more than 2 desolace layers on day 1, and per 50 orgrimmars there is probably only 1 mount hyjal zone, thats why it is all over the place
>>585582616>we should only give new toys to one faction exclusively>NOOOOO WHY IS THE OTHER FACTION DYING
>>585562761I watch dubsAlso, I'm not a furry but I wanna go balls deep into sister weaponsmith rabbit
>>585582616NTA but I'd like it if each faction got more capitals so they can lose them. Something like the burning of teldrassil or farting on undercity would be really cool in forever where were stuck on these two continents.
>10 more days Bros... im not going to make it...
Can you imagine what WoW Forever would be like if Blizzard never went public? We live in the wrong timeline
how the fuck are you gonna rp on pve ruleset
>>585582779See this is what I mean, you're so fucking braindamaged you can only go to the extreme strawman to have a semblance of an argument for that retarded position
>>585582865>RP is playing a tryhard lv60 rogue ganking lv10 in durotar
>>585582865go on dates with cute girls
>>585582865rp pve is rp pvp with consentOf course you chuds dont want consent
>>585582865>UHH IF I CANT MAKE PEOPLE MISSCLICK ME IN BOOTY BAY TO TRIGGER THE GUARDS AM I REALLY RPING?lol
>>585582683>>585582645as long as they keep in the land acknowledgement from retail wow that continues the unintentional shitlib reinforcement that the mudhut shithole races are analogous to minorities IRL
>>585572014>deadzone still a thing>melee hunter still deals more dps than mmman wanting to play mm is suffering.
i will be leveling with my femboy bf and he will be forced to have magic wand on his chair to stimulate him whole time. Every time he dies i ramp up speed on it and if he ends up cumming i piss on him,
>>585583194Love this for you
>>585582223silvermoon city, when they add blood elves and high elves in a later content patch. high elves for alliance will start in northshire with the humans.that content patch will have eversong woods for the belf start zone, but ghostlands will be a level 60 zone with a focus on the amani trolls and zul aman
>>585582865Pvping with the enemy faction outside of RP events isn't RPingRPvPers are just special kiddies who are too afraid to roll on pvp and too lazy to organize events on pve
Where can I check the entire list of OneForAll features? Does it have something like FiveSecondRule?
Will blizzard fuck my shit up if I have extremely jewish names for my bank alt?
>>585583324its going to be so fucking funny if they release TWO more elves before they release other races
>>585583381if someone reports you, probably
>people are already okay with p2w races
What profession for a warrior tank?
>>585583324>Silvermoon city, when they add blood elvesI'd instantly unsub if horde gets blood elves. Its literally just going to be retail at that point.Horde got blood elfs in the first place so they would have a pretty race, we have that with the skyborn, give the horde the amani.
Amani Trolls for AllianceHigh Elves for the HordeBlood Elf raid zone
>>585583616engi and blacksmithing
>>585583545i don't want to play a troon blue elf so it's free for meif this was a retail xpac you'd still be charged 50 dollars just to participate in Forever content
>>585583324Silvermoon should be in a state of complete disrepair after Arthas raped it and Trolls and High Elves should be fighting over the land remnants Quel'Thalas after the Elves Retreated to Sunstrider Isle.
>>585583660based>>585583692>high elves for the hordeCringe, but other than that, based. imagine a patch dedicated to murdering belfs.
I'd be so excited for Forever if it wasn't for the layered megaservers. Almost can't be bothered to play at all.
>>585583660nobody is going to pay 30 dollars to play a green troll, no shoesblizzard wants to make money not spend dev time on garbage nobody is going to play
>>585583702How am I gonna make gold bro...
>>585583798you wont do shit nigger. youll be playing on launch eating your slop. Stop pretending to have values.
>>585583848Sell your engineer and blacksmithing goods dumbass.
>>585583324>add blood elves to hordeCan't wait to see the absolute mental gymnastic dogshit writing they need to come up with to justify this ever happening for a second time. Can't be much worse than how it went in retail I guess
>>585583848
>prefer horde races>prefer horde leveling zones>prefer alliance townsfuck im so sick of orgrimmar
>>585583660>blue elf:(>green troll:)
>>585583989not making thunder bluff your main city is just self defeatism
>>585583545I'm fine with it as long as the races are cool, which sky elves are not.
>>585583848>Godtier Tank Selling runs, 5g buy in, smooth runs!
>>585583692Amani would sooner nuke any human settlement than join the Alliance. Half the reason they even got pushed back into Zul'Aman is because human mages got involved in their war with the elves. Which further makes Dalaran almost more of a modern contemporary opposite to Zul'Aman than Silvermoon. Especially if Silvermoon was recently ransacked by the scourge.
>>585583989>im too good for the mudhuts
>>585583848you could pick up enchanting on an alt and send unwanted gear to disenchant. or just pick up mining
>>585584073Amani joined the Horde in retail, blizzard writers dont care
>>585584154Amani still arent playable.
>>585584005>made up blue elf after blizzards retail elf affirmative actioncringe>established warcraft 2 troll with hulking troll potential and a new flavor of hut Hell yeah
>>585584283They will be in the next expansion, mark my words. screenshot this post.
>>585584364nobody cares about wc2 unc
>>585584283>but it's not real amaniyes and it's not real high elves etc
>>585584430WC2 is when Warcraft became Warcraft.
Unccraft
>>585584386They already said they aren't adding a new class or playable race in last titan or whatever its called.
The problems with all the ideas you guys have, even the bad ones is they're too good for blizzard to ever consider or execute properly.
>>585583545the people who play this game are massive cocksuckers, don't be surprised watching how much they are enjoy crawling for blizzard
>>585583989>prefer indian cuisine>prefer indian culture>prefer north american countriesfuck im so sick of New Delhi
YOU DONT WANT NEW CLASSES YOU DONT JUST FARM LEGACY POINTS WHATS WRONG WITH YOUUUUUUUUUU
>>585584554They also said they wouldn't be adding RP-PvP ruleset to forever. What Blizzard says and does are two different things sometimes anon.
>>585584640>>prefer indian cuisine>>prefer indian cultureYou think you do, but you don't.
>>585584640>alliance = north americaKEK
>>585584713I want new classes so I can farm more legacy points by leveling them.
>>585584713retailbrain is what's wrong with xher
>>585584640Literally millions of jeets think like this lol
>>585584640North america has no culture outside modern age bullshit, it certainly has no medieval culture which is what inspires human kingdoms in settings like warcraft
>>585584713I'll just play Evercold if it looks like they're not going to actually mix up the game's experience enough to not just warrant playing a private server or whatever is going on with classic right now.
Classic plus is when new raid or something and basic Blizzard empathy o algo
This isn't an exclusive problem to WoW, but why do game developers feel the need to get out the biggest fucking nerf bat when something is discovered to be strong? Why can't you just nerf it slightly, see how it plays out and then react accordingly? Why does shit always have to go from best to worst and vice versa. I never understood why Icefrog did this shit in Dota either. Surely balance patches for games that are 20 fucking years old should just be slight tweaks? Is it really just for brain rotten zoomers to feel like something is "new" every few months?
>>585585013that's just how blizzard does balancing. classes take turns holding the FOTM sticksome get to hold that stick for longer or more frequently
>>585585013Because youre stupid. Thats the short answer.
im excited for wow forever my niggas
>>585585013Not all games do this but it has to do with design philosophy. Blizzard is on record saying they are fine with sometimes nerfing a class to the ground, and buffing one to the point of being arguably OP. Because they can adjust that for the next content cycle and let every class "have their moment in the sun" as it were. It's a choice.XIV has balance within 1-3% between classes and obviously makes their changes with much more care. But the problem you face there instead is that it feels shit to play anything that requires more investment because you'll still not do more damage than the easiest spec.
Where the ogre women@ tho
They should add female circumcision to Forever
>>585576071EllesmereUIForever Loot SparklesTSM (if its going to be compatible with forever, or Auctionator)What's TrainingDungeon JournalGathermate2Rare ScannerQuestieTis is all you need, nuff said.
>>585577475does oneforall have a rare scanner
>>585585272You sure you want this?
all Forever discussion should go to /wowg/ since beta is over and Forever isn't released yet so there shouldnt be a general for a game you cant playPlease migrate to /wowg/ immediately
I fuck /wowfg/ completely and fully until I semenate.T-minus 2 months until this general shuts down along with Forever, too many of you have said youre just here for a few weeks to fomo tourist the game.
>You dont want classic, trust me you will get tired of it>NO WE WANT IT>Okay here>Thanks Blizz but it's been years can we have something new>here's SoM now shut up you wanted classic not something new>Thanks blizz, actually it's been years again and we bored can we have more?>But you said you wanted classi- oh fuck it, here's SoD>Woah, Thanks blizz, BUT actually can we have Classic+ instead?>OH FOR FUCK SAKE HERE You are here right now
>>585576071Twitch Emotes v2Speedy AutoLootRestedXPRareScannerQuestia (maybe, usually disabled due to lua errors)PlatynatorMidnight TooltipLeatrix MapsForeverAurasEllesmereUIDungeonJournalBaganatorAtlasLoot Classic ForeverAce3BugSack
>>585585598Any and all Forever discussion would be offtopic for /wowg/ because that's entirely different game.
Mop was the last good expansionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50EOOzhovjg&t=1699s
>>585585741Forever discussion inherently is offtopic because its a temporary fomo game mode that wont exist in 6 months.
>>585585881But enough about retail.
Do you still need a Druid mana bar addon or is that now in the normal UI options?
>>585585805daily slop the game loop, nah, not really, sure i did like the raids actually and dungeons were decent, but overall it was such a snoozefest with insane amount of dailies and farm bullshit, cata felt much comfier
>>585585936its included in the classic ui mod. there is also a personal resource tracker build into forevers ui customization options so you can make one yourself for mana.
>>585585805damn right
Is Engineering actually going to be mandatory for Hunter with the new BoP ammo? I hate Engineering.
>>585585989>Dailies take you all over the world againComfy kino
>>585585532Yes
>>585586098nothing about end game is certain atm
where and how do u mod your character? where do u get the mods?
>>585583545p2w for release, nerfed to obscurity months later, it's video game sales 101
>>585586098>ass enjoyerRespect!
>>585582424worked fine on turtle
>>585585805Legion was first and last good expansion after Wrath. TBC gets a pass because it was a stepping stone to WOTLK.
>>585585598I hope all of this gets added to Forever.
>>585586098dont take it then and gimp your damage slightly, who cares
>>585586191discord
>launch day>patch drops 30 minutes before launch>blue elves replaced by ogres and murlocs>new class>racials balanced>first week is free for everyone>weekly level caps to fuck with the speedrunner autists>dungeon exp back to normal for the first 3 clears per dungeon
>>585586367>murlocsReddit race that is too stupid to be a playable race
>>585586053Thank you.
>wake up tomorrow>Im not a miserable fat loser anymore
>>585585920Yea history wont repeat itself dear, retail will die and Fagever will have 10+ million subs by Christmas.
>>585586367and the Windrunner sisters are waiting for me with their legs open when i hit 60?
>>585567885Kys
>>585581793This but unironically.People have been psy-op'd into accepting no new changes to any of the original dungeons, oh boy i can't wait to run vanilla dead mines and wailing caverns and black fathom depths again...............Eww what? You wanted a SoD style complete revamp? Disgusting, why would you want a fresh take on a dungeon whilst still retaining the feel and soul of the place but giving you something that isn't solved so you can go solve it yourself? No thanks, I want to run the same boring old dungeons for the billionth fucking time.(People UNIRONICALLY think this way btw, maybe you do too, and that would make you a fucking retard).New races? Ogres? Furbolg? Naga? No, here's blood elves (but we called them Sky Elves instead :) )You want interesting and distinct racials? No heres copy pasted Beast Slaying and here's copy pasted 2% crit damage.WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM? WHY CAN'T THEY DO ANYTHING FUCKING RIGHT?
>>585586367>blue elves replaced by ogres and murlocsbased>new classmaybe based, tinker would be cool but horde would need goblins for tinker>racials balancedracials should be removed>first week is free for everyonedoesnt matter>weekly level caps to fuck with the speedrunner autiststhis is pretty gay>dungeon exp back to normal for the first 3 clears per dungeonthis is extremely gay
Want to play Alliance but heard that it attracts "chuds"**tl;dr** I want to minimise interaction with intolerant/bigoted/socially right wing players. I heard that Alliance will probably have more of these than Horde, is this true? ---I haven't played WoW seriously since Legion/Nostalrius days, but I'm super excited for Forever and would like to try end-game raiding again. This of course means joining a guild and making friends so I am able to access said end-game content. I am not interested in lone wolf who occassionally PUGs, been there, done that. It sucks.Now, I hate to mention this, but I am a trans woman. Usually I don't bother disclosing this online because most gamers aren't exactly progressive, but it's relevant here because end-game content requires voice comms. My voice isn't perfectly passable, and therefore people can probably tell that I'm a trans woman by listening to me to talk.Anyway, after doing some research, I've heard more than a few people mention that Alliance is more likely to attract socially right wing players or "chuds", mostly because a certain streamer known for his "controversial political commentary" typically plays Alliance. This is further exacerbated by the fact that Forever will have mega servers so I won't be able to avoid these players by just picking another realm. I've been advised to go Horde if I want to avoid these players.However, I prefer playing Alliance. I prefer the zones, I prefer the cities, I prefer the lore and I prefer the races. I genuinely think that rolling Horde would impair my enjoyment of Forever, especially if I'm to play, y'know, forever.The idea that a single streamer can bias the sociopolitical distribution of an entire faction just seems absurd to me, but I've had several people tell me this now and I haven't touched WoW in almost a decade now so I'm seriously out of touch.So, what do you guys think? Is Alliance really more "chuddy" than Horde, and is it to the extent that I should roll
>>585586487Only if you edge the whole way there
>>585582716They should assign neighboring zone layers for zones for consistency. So that you could stay within same "layer" when running between westfall and redridge.
>>585586557just use your male voice?or dont use voice chat at all?
Reminder: This thread will last 72 hours+ before the end of 2026.
>>585586472Will definitely have more subs than your dress up house decorator, go back to your barren general and post your tmog tranny.
>>585567324God
>>585586548It sounds like you want Cata.
>>585586710When Fagever EoS’, you will then be a retail player too as your character will transfer over. Btw same Blizz makes both games if you didnt know, yea they arnt two separate companies, the same people who work on retail work on fagever.
Since they insist on elves for both factions, they should've just gone with high elves and undead elves.Everything else is fake and gay.
>>585586553If they really wanted to make it like classic (but not) they could do faction locked classes again but in a more temporary manner. >Tinker added>only gnomes initially>Horde gets something only trolls or undead could be or some shit>next set of races allow both to get the missing classed after the other faction had exclusive rights for a bit>People bitch and moan and seethe about the exclusivity and all is right in the world
>alliance has no fuckable male chads until they add Worgensad...
>>585584905That tends to happen with countries that are younger and pubs in europe.
GUYS ARE WE ROLLING ON PVP OR RP-PVP?
Retailfags can see their days are numbered and Forever will take retails place
>>585586548>>585581793I know It's not in the spirit of retards to think, but have you ever considered that one not everyone wants the same things as you and two the game is going to be in active development and thus will add more things with patches?
Please roll Dwarf shaman on launch, I'm tired of being the dress wearing stump diddler
>>585586367Wow you made the game objectively worse!
>>585581793forever is going to accomplish what we all wanted, it'll kill blizzardbecause they marketed it so heavily to be the next retail it'll kill the old retail AND because it's a shit nu-blizzard soulless game with literally nothing new that is good and has all the issues you mentioned it'll last 2 months and then die and blizzard will be left with nothing and will go bankrupt
>>585586284it probably will, blizzard is playing the long con on the chuds
>>585586993Rp-pve
>>585586557on the beta this was absolutely true because of asmongold whose followers literally made up like 25% of the alliance playerbase. you had guilds with names like Olympus Agarthans who would spam chat with dogwhistles he is going PvE now so his horde of sycophants wont be on the PvP server. now there will probably be largely similar playerbases on bothanecdotally though I have seen far more screenshots of horde players overall being bigger faggots, woke 1.0 cultists, and literal trannies but in personal experience both factions act mostly the same in game
>>585583324>when they add blood elves and high elvesThey already did, they're called sky elves
>>585586367>>weekly level caps to fuck with the speedrunner autistsI will be 60 in the first week and there's nothing you can do about it pal
>>585587101This level of cope can't be good for your mental health. Have you tried doing something you like instead of raging all day in a general for a game you hate?
>>585586367it's this delusional wishful thinking that keeps this scam artist company running
>>585586996The pride before the fall in this general is insane.Im gonna eat so fucking well when you ladies start screeching here in a few weeks, you have no idea. Your laments will sustain me.
>>585586993pvp
>>585577475OneForAll sounds good, but I just know it will not have "all". I also dont like addons that I only make 10% use of.I rather have some individual ones and be done with it like >>585585361.
It's just a beta!
Why the frick are retailchuds being so aggressive?
We all know youre all gonna come crying back to Classic fresh crying that Blizzard abused you and tricked you again. Forever will fail, Retailfags will keep getting milked and we ll all go home next fresh
>>585587329Never in the 20 years of Retail has it been this threatened to lose the number one spot of MMORPGs.
How long until they add a wow token
>>58558559810 days is the blink of a furry eye
Fagever directly saps resources that couldve gone to making Retail better. Its a nostalgic fad abomination that serves only to hinder Retail until you 70 IQ savants realize you hate playing wow again and drop fagever.
>>5855874584-6 months
>>585587501Retail is beyond repair
>>585578780i don't get it, you're skipping the game by rushing to the end without doing any of the content on the waythat's not valuing your time
There’s almost no resources going into Forever albeit. That’s why it’s not even launching with completed raids and only one new race that’s just a BC reskin.
What classes would suffer most/least in a pvp server? Im assuming warriors will get wrecked, so I'm reconsidering rolling one
>>585587329Imagine if you had decades of mogsmountscheevos that were about to be made irrelevant
>>585587329WoW Forever is essentially WoW2 and that's luring lots of retailfags away, the ones remaining are getting increasingly nervous that there will be less players to look at their mounts, mogs and cheevos.
>>585586274It makes me mad to this day that I returned for fucking BfA after my friends kept telling me how good Legion was, and how back we are...
If you like isekai you are a ghoul
>>585586941It's my only problem with going alliance honestly, I guess a nelf will have to do..
>>585587550>Retail is beyond repair>Thats why Im putting all my hopes and dreams into Retail 2: Lyte, reused asset edition
>>585587606the person that posted this is so fat he hasn't seen his own dick in 12 years
We need to retvrn to this formula
retoilets very fired up today over their sunsetting game
>>585587501Retail is peak retail right now with Midnight unironically
>>585587329The retoiletWoW killer is finally here, and they are getting more and more nervous about it.
>check the pootoilet thread>16 hours ago>300 posts
>>585587584Warrior is indeed the worst. Though if you're gonna play a warrior anyway, there is some merit to doing so right away while the server is new so you can level ahead of the pack.
>>585587785Im going to peak approximately the night of December 13th when the kvetching in this thread hits maximum.
>>585587734They wont, it's considered problematic to the fat troon writers at blizzard
what faction is gonna have a better bg winrate
I'm glad these threads are being archive because we have a lot of people to point and laugh at when forever is dead 2 months in and all streamers already left with a big bag of cash and there's only a few depressed raidloggers left
>>585587316> but I just know it will not have "all"what that addon does>armoryAtlasLoot 1:1>talent calculatorthe most whatever feature honestly, has the niche of planning ahead the build and get the job done in that sense>profession tabthat profession has recipes, where to get them and how and the neat spyware feature of tracking other players with the addon that know the recipes you are currently looking at so that if you want you can whisp them "hey i see from the addon you know this recipe, how much you want for crafting it for me?" >dungeon tablocation, map, boss+their loot and where to get related quest to the dungeon>library bookstracks what books for your capital library you found and warns you when a book is nearby you>hunter pets armorypetopia in game for hunter players>QoLLeatrix Plus 1:1Honestly, the addon is vibecoded claude slop but it has basically zero bloat, each tab has everything it needs to doRetailers are literally seething about not having it
>>585587863Youre gonna be BEGGING to shit in our RETOILET in a few months…
gonna slay so many horde nigs this fresh
>>585587584anything with stealth > anything with heals > anything that is strong 1v1 >>>>>>>>>>> warriors
They should add a quest where Lady Katrana Prestor breastfeeds the player.
>>585587734Warcraft lore was best when it was like this >old god starting shit because fuck you lets kill it>forest trolls bringing back a blood god to kill everybody Kill them and kill it>black dragons trying to manipulate and experiment on the forces of good kill them put their heads on a wall
>>585587975All PVP tryhards will go Alliance, their queue times will be longer than horde making them more motivated to win the game.Essentially the same as classic but this time other way around.
Neet GODS are going to be dabbing all over wagecuck journey enjoyers. I honestly don't know how you guys do it
imagine losing all your mounts and cheevosimagine having to play the game in the open world for literal days of /played time to hit max levelimagine having the M+ treadmill replaced with braindead classic raidingimagine this game receiving 90% of the marketing while retail becomes an afterthought in a way it never did with earlier classic releasesIf I was a retoliet fan I'd be mad too
>>585587975Horde because of the built in handicap they have for almost every battleground
>>585588124>All PVP tryhards will go Allianceexcellent subversion my liege
>>585586993RP-PvP, then PvP when they merge it for failing
>>585587892I might save warrior for HC
Will paladin be okay if im healer/tank?
>>585587734trvke
I will play holy paladin. I do not care how shit it is. I will carry you to victory in WSG. And you WILL thank me.
>>585588134How do you do it?
>>585588134I love how people like you still exist even though classic showed that the poopsockers live in their own ecosystem completely detached from anyone else. Is it a cope to make yourself feel better about your life situation?
>>585588150At this point I just want it to be Nov 4 and the bitching to begin, the agony of watching you homos act so high and mighty right now!
I refused to buy the tranny elf and missed the stress testwhen i can freakin predownload and install the addons? 3 November?
>>585588124even in WOTLK when the majority of the arena ladder was alliance players alliance still had fast to instant BG queues
>>585588134Because unless we're really busy that night I'm basically being paid 35 an hour to play HS on my phone
>>585587329Forever already killed like 70% TBC guilds, halved MoP (it was already on its last legs) and retoilet casuals are abandoning ship, all the brown booster andies are losing massive amount of revenue because nobody anymore cares about getting their M+ cheevos, and to top it off its 0.5 patch with absolutely zero hyper and all time worst written lore and everyone is dooming and demotivated
i am playing a magician!!i will be f/p!!!!!!!!!
>>585588320paladins can't get any worse, it's only up from here
>>585588320if you have to ask, you don't play at a level where it really matters. so yea, have fun.
>>585588150>imagine losing all your mounts and cheevosNever played retail so it doesnt matter >imagine having to play the game in the open world for literal days of /played time to hit max levelDoe it not take days to level to max on retail? Back when I played wotlk it took a while to go from 1 to 80. Days even. >imagine having the M+ treadmill replaced with braindead classic raidingNever played retail so i dont understand the appeal of M+ hamster wheel. While 40 man raids are appealing because they are fun.
>>585588346you suck jeetda
>>585587101Honestly it's the best option possible to stop the absolute rape this franchise has endured by the freaks wearing the blizzard skin suit
>>585587785What's up with december 13th?
>>585587683at least alliance still have horses and wolves... and neutral places like booty bay
I think all of you guys are high level faggots if I'm honest.Why do you want quirky lame fucking classes?Tinker? Really? Dude there is nothing I hate more than Steampunk/Gadgets/Tech/Science classes. It's why I hate gnomes and goblins and wish they weren't even in the game. They're so fucking cringe.Give me something related to the old gods or something. Or at least a spec related to it.C'thun themed spec, Yogg themed spec, N'zoth themed spec.Holy fucking shit.That would be based beyond belief.Or a class that weaves in multiple of the troll enemy classes into it.Throwing spec, Blood Drinker life steal/berserker spec, w/e elseOr a debuffing mage that uses hex's and venomancy.
can I say something
>>585588478I'm already going to be F/P Wizard first.
Even if Retail is currently in a good position it’s had too much FOMO over the years to the point that I don’t feel like playing since I’ve missed so many one time only events.
>>585588592we can poison and burn things together!! :)
>>585588237i thought all the pvp streamers were going alliance and theres no arena they just gonna get fucked unless theyre in premades?
>>585588449> all the brown booster andies are losing massive amount of revenue because nobody anymore cares about getting their M+ cheevosto pour salt on the wound blizzard nerfed dungeon xp and if someone is too high level for the dungeon no one gets XP.It sucks for pure healers or paladin tanks but it kills the whole booster business
>>585588687Pretty sure the only two that are going alliance are Venruki and Xaryu
>>585587581Considering the popularity its going to get a lot more resources
>>585588346Keeping bloody heads with their teeth still on so they can poke you and give you an infection?
rolling a black gnome priest body type 1
>>585588559Raids been out for a bit, enough time for even the retards in this thread to digest and realize its not what theyd hoped
>>585588791careful anon you might break a nail too
>>585588584>C'thun themed spec, Yogg themed spec, N'zoth themed spec.So a Twilight Hammer Cultist?
>>585588134basedliving the dream
>>585588761ah the rerolled to monk and got fucked and non edgy jahmili
>>585567914Considering ogres are canonically strongest warlocks & warriors, they need to have absolutely insane racials+30% haste on use, +2% crit atleast
>>585588590No
>>585588720i'm just skipping dungeons altogether until BRD and solo questing as a lock and later i'll just /follow on my future alts to get dungeon quests done with my druid gatherer as a tank on 2nd account through them all
gonna roll a blue elf female, spend my days fishing and erping.peak comfy experience.
Notice how anytime we start talking about how to improve the game or keep it true to the lore that made it popular the retoilet trannies start flooding the thread to spam their pornsick spam or absolute trash walls of text to slide the thread, there's big money or cultural consequences at stake keeping western media as shitty and fagified as possible
>>585588720i still don't get wtf was the point of nerfing dungeon xp if all it took to fix boosters is to introduce level gap that kills xp, level 60 mage in mara with your 4 35s? 0 xp for all, there, fucking fixed
>>585588523Thats true, I barely even plan to raid.
>>585588857Clean your skulls before wearing them as trophys. It's common sense
>>585589146meds
Gonna miss Draenei, bros...I just wanna lift their tails up and fuck them anally... but WoW Forever won't even let me do that because they don't exist...Why has god forsaken me?
>>585589176Unironically because they want (You) to quest and see the AMAZING WORLD and especially all the new maps and quest they added
>>585589176ya but if your stuck in dungeons you wont get to see all the new quests that they/xir worked so hard on
>>585589250If this thread took their meds maybe theyd realize theyre falling for a Blizzard trap again for the 20th time.
>>585589176its not about booster is about not enticing people do play instancecraft like retail is
>>585589296play lock, dip your succubi in blue paint, fuck her ass, she'll love it
>>585588584Wanting one thing doesn't immediately mean I don't want another. That said, something like a witch doctor, necromancer, or old magic cultist is definitely more in line with what I'd prefer. Even if I think such things would be really hard to do right.
>>585589296>Why has god forsaken me?Because you wanna fucked hooved goat legged creatures with horns
>>585588795>>585589045>>585589250they should
Is kings better than might outside of low level stuff?
>>585589176Because running deadmines over 2 times is cringe as fuck and should be incentivized against
>>585589296>I just wanna lift their tails up and fuck them anallyThey don't exist. Even in other versions of the game, they're not real, you can't do that...
>>585589396>Even if I think such things would be really hard to do right.I don't.Like 5 years ago I fully fleshed out a necro kit within a few days
>>585589176There should be no reason for anyone to want to do a dungeon more than two times, even the og devs said as much when it came to lvling dungeons. That said they should improve partying up in the world and make it so quest items have a bigger chance to drop if you have more people in the party and also have more areas like Jintha'Alor.
>>585589534And how does that affect you personally
>>585589176Cleave is a form of boosting. Spamming a dungeon with a meta comp with intent to power level is considered boosting. All they have left to fix now is find a way to lock quest progression if a high level is in party with you too.
>>585589747How does me plowing your mom affect you personally
>>585589296Youll have playable draenai, when Fagever characters merge over to Retail
>>585586489It's the only thing worth reading / watching
>>585589747I am an autist who wants to do the most optimal thing even when doing the optimal will ruin my fun.
>>585589747A MMO is inherently competitive. The faster you get to 60 the better you can control the market, gearing process and access to endgame content. Thus you are compelled to do the most degenerate gameplay practices in order to reach max level quickly. Its in the best interest of the game's population as a whole to have some regulations to essentially protect people from themselves.
Why did they call SoD a "testing ground" for Classic+ if they didn't use any of it? For all its flaws, there were a lot of great things in SoD.Rotations were pretty fun.Every spec felt strong and useful. Sure the power creep in the overworld went too far, but we never had to worry about class stacking or raid viability of any spec.Sham tanks, Lock tanks, Mage Healers all cool and fun. (F Rogue tank)PvP events were populated and fun.Why then, did Blizzard (so far) only add in the damn sleeping bag, mage books, real vendor, and waylaid?
>>585589396I think they would do Necro fairly well now. Demo lock shows they kind of got the general symbiotic summon/summoner spec down and that general basis could world for a necromancer, or even the more temporary pet style from retail.
>You didnt invite my ret paladin to your dungeon group>So my revenge is to whisper to the Forever devs to make dungeon content suck
How hyped are you out of 10 for this game?
>>585589959My headcanon is that they want to start mostly "raw" and slowly build up Forever, rather than go all in at the start and alienate the "no changes" crowd.
>>585586676it's been too long, i have a perma inbetween fagvoice now
>>585589959But they did. They realized player's concept of what was classic/vanilla inspired is incredibly narrow and limited. Like 90% of the spells they added in SoD were considered "not classic" and people complained about it. They also made it clear that classic players dont want modern combat mechanics in dungeons and raids, nor do they want super fast gameplay with lots of buttons. I think SoD worked out perfectly in that the information they got was that you don't have to do 'that' much for classic+ to succeed.
>>585590083I quit my job, divorced my wife, and gave the kids up for adoption. Yes ive never played wow before, but what could go wrong? Theres no way it WONT be exactly the messiah game i think itll be!
>>585590083the game itself about a 2fresh pvp a 7 or 8
>>585590083Like 7-8. I'll take a week off from work for it. Honestly the only reason I'm not at 10 is that GTA comes out the same month and I'm more hyped for that.
>>585589959Nigger sod was literally jamming random retail abilities into classes and giving everyone instant cast procs and retarded buffs so they can do everything. What is there to take away?
>>585589959did you literally just copy and paste a reddit thread
>>585589959SoD truly had some amazingly good things to it.I cannot stress enough just how good the revamped dungeon experience was. I still felt like I was running the old dungeons but...reimagined. It was amazing. And then they just don't do any of that shit for WoW Forever.You have no fucking idea how mad that makes me. When I heard about WoW Forever and how they took inspiration from SoD, THAT'S WHAT I WAS EXPECTING.I legit thought they were going to revamp every classic dungeon so when we all played it would be like an old familiar game but with all the benefits of a new unsolved game. The ultimate form of nostalgia, because real nostalgia is the time you had when you didn't know what those dungeons were or how to beat them. That's what SoD style reimagining would have provided. Yet they didn't do it.Seething t b h.
>>5855900839-10. Vanilla WoW is the greatest game of all times period, and this has potential to top that. I was hyped for GTA 6 as well but completely forgot about it and don't care since Blizzcon.
The only people hyped for this game are retail players who will be gone the moment blizzard releases the next toilet. When I talk to private server/classic players there's zero hype.
>>585590448of courseit's easy (You)s
>>585590448this whole thread is reddit
>>585588038Literally everything is coded with Claude in 2026, ludditebro
>>5855900835 or 6, I'm tempered because I know not to put too much faith in blizzard. I am gonna be playing with a friend playing wow first time, but still familiar with mmos and knows what kind of up and downs to expect, so that's its own benefit. Cautious optimism at best, "what kind of dumb ass shit are they going to announce in a month" at worst.
>>585590531kara crypt has been the most fun ive had in a dungeon since og cata pre nerf dungeons
>>58559008310!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>585590572What's important is that It's true in your head.
Truthfully, how dogshit is the first day going to be? Will most people even be able to play day 1?
>>585590531They saw sod numbers and then they saw anniversary numbers. There are more people talking about how amazing sod was than people who ever played it at 60. It was retail- and blizzard got the memo.
>>585588038you can craft recipes you know to trade or sell?how does one do this anon?
>>585590740It's funny how often you have a very vocal majority telling blizzard>we want this thing, not that stupid shit you're doing with retailand they never fucking listen, they then try a basic version of what people say they want, and are then seemingly blown away by how that thing did amazingly well ever since the whole "you think you do but you don't" debacle. You'd think their shot calling investors were stillborn at this point.
>Do deadmines with bro>The thing he wants doesn't drop>I am now stuck having to do it again for no EXP until his item dropsCool.>Various mega threads on Battlenet forums about restoring dungeon EXPThis nerf has definitely been well received
>>585590721yes
>>585590997get fucked chang. your gaslighting won't work here.
Is it weird that the main thing im excited to do is just roam the world and give people buffs, help with elite and boss quests and res people?
>>585590997>I don't want to play with my friends unless It's the most efficient exp per hourRope
>>585590997then go to the next dungeon, retard
>>585590997>Caring about leveling gearYou need to help your friend not be such a noob
>>585590721Either surprisingly smooth, or a complete and total cluster fuck with no inbetween.
>>585590997oh nooo, you will only get as much XP/hr as you would be getting solo while getting free gear :( dude that SUCKS!!!
>>585591137What about sliding your hand inside random adventurer's pants and giving them a little suck, are you excited about that too?
>>585590997Every piece of gear in any dungeon under lv50 literally doesn't matter, your friend needs to stop being retarded
>>585590721I genuinely dont think theyll have much problem. People are dooming like crazy but once you get through an admittedly long queue time i bet itll be smooth
>>585590572nobody cares what your discord friends think, retard. fuck off
>>585591294No im super straight
Why do hunters use mana and not energy?
>>585591378That isn't what he asked
Will twinks be a thing?
this is what mmo gayming is all about vros(i dont know him)
>>585591387Arcane shot o algo
>>585590083Im an 8 m8
>>585591387because rogues use energy you fucking retard. have you even played the game? what a stupid question. whats with all the anti forever shills? what the fuck..
>>585589920The whole thing is a farce though, because everyone knows that sweats are still going to be there first and actually casual with 5 wives 17 kids 3 job dadgamers are more affected by the nerfs because they only have 15 minutes on 2nd sunday once a month playtime
>>585590997>having to farm t0 with no dungeon xp
>>585574324this is how you know all trannies play horde
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/pokelinkanyone playing this when forever drops ? lets trade
>>585591568Casual dads dont spam dungeons to powerlevel. Thats what the sweats do. And while the sweats will nonetheless find the fastest means to get to 60 you should still try and hinder them a little with methods that are just too good.
>>585591294Not him and I wasn't excited about that, but now I am, thanks for the idea
>>585591598>dungeon xp>level 60 gear
Mount Hyjal
>>585591568I'm a sweat and I support the nerfs because dungeon spamming is fucking gay
>>585590997So what retard you do it again. It also gives you more chances to get loot you want I don't see the issue. You'll have plenty more time to get more XP elsewhere
>>585591731things were already tested in the beta, and this hindering will backfire astronomically because as it stands right now hyperspawn cleave groups are even faster than prenerf dungeons, but they also prevent casuals from competing quest objectives in said spots
They should just do what Tibia does. Make it so theres no level cap, but each level past 60 gives you like 1 HP/MP.
>>585591809Olympus was there
I can't wait to fish out bis jewelry
>>5855900830i'm only playing it because my entire friends group ismaybe it'll change, maybe it won't, i just have no faith blizzard is capable of doing anything without shitting the bed
>first week level cap 30>raise level cap by 10 every weekThis would be great
>>585591971Yeah we need a reason to keep grinding I agree.
Where are we going to reserve names on 27? The forever install says you can't login until November 4 and the beta is disabled
>>585590997bait post btw, no normal human being thinks this way
>>585591809>Orc camp is not destroyedbut thats not what happened
So people keep going on about the whole paladin in a dress thing in vanilla. What WAS the dress anyway? Did they not have much healing plate on offer in vanilla?
>>585592023i hate the fact that i have to kill dungeon bosses for fishing recipes that allow buffs to catch special rare fishes
>>585592051go back to soddie lil gup
>>585592079You will be able to login to the character screen and then you can create them
>>585591809>literally the same layout as the TBC raid except the bases are all full of grey shitLMAAAAO
>>585592090bro just dont go. nobody is forcing you to do DM's. tell ur bud to eat shit
>>585592051I agree its fun to see different metas play out at different level caps. The way it is youre going to have a bunch of hunters pulling ahead to 50 and 60 while everyone else is still level 20 doing /who 58 and getting pissed off
>>585592131SoD issue was that they gated each tier for like half a year. Just putting in 2-3 weekly barriers would be enough to stop hypersweats from destroying the economy.
>>585591971>chang poopsocker raid bosses in AV PvPwhat could go wrong
>>585592131Speak English pajeet
>pick RP>no streamers>no sweats>no cleave>no tourists>no ESLCan't wait!
>>585592314>picis this valid RP for an orc?
>>585591750you need the dungeon set and a lot of lvl 55-59 would normally be doing these dungeons
>>585592023Can i have ur mageweave bro
>>585592237lol, lmao even>level capped on 30>cap raised tomorrow, login with 40 saved quests, poopsock for 16 hours, logout same day as level 40>repeat for next 3 days on my alts>day 5 collect 40 quests for level 40 push on all chars>day 6 farm and ruin economy>day 6 farm and ruin economy
>>585592242I assume each level would just get progressively harder to the point where there would be a soft cap. This would only result in maybe someone getting like 100-200 more HP/MP over the course of the entire game's lifespan, but it would be something they could flex.
>>585592348Yes, of course! Feel free to rape every human twink you see.
I'm going to play on the pvp servers, was going horde because asmonroach was on alliance and that meant lots of easy retards to kill but now he's going pve like the little pussy he is so idk which faction I'll go now, it'll depend on racials I guess
>>585589830Maybe if you're retarded
>>585591809>>585592168turtle won... again... F
>>585592168But that’s just the layout of the WC3 map.
>>585592348uhm, no chuddie, not in our modernized lgbtaqpedo+ wow version
>>585592407The point is to prevent people from getting to max level in like 3 days. By putting in barriers you could make it so people cant get to 60 until say week 4. This would give relatively normal people a chance to keep pace and reach 60 around the same time.
>>585589920You are fucking retarded.
>>585592553Name something that's better
>>585592638reminder that this is fan art
>bro just use your already limited inventory space to hold a bunch of random reagents to set up campfires for other people to afk at brothis is still so funny to me, I dont hate the feature but making it cost a bunch of random shit to craft is gonna make it pretty much DOA
>>585592618no it wasn'tthe undead/demon base was on the southwest, the human on the southeast, then you zigzag around to the orc base on the west, directly above the undead one, and then you went northeast to the night elf oneNONE of WoW's takes on hyjal look ANYTHING like the wc3 map
>>585592712seinen written by women
>>585592798But you benefit from said campfire too.
>>585592712Better then isekai? Literally anything else.
>>585592647it never works, no matter what caps you invent, more time means always way ahead, unless you literally turn off loot and xp and trade interactions after set amount of time spent ingame per week, you can limit it to 1 level a day and sweats will still run laps around dads and have thousands of gold before level 20
only subhumans give a shit about campfires or dungeons now, it's all about restedXP and journey now, that's the intended way to play wow forever
>>585592859Having 4 extra inventory slots is more beneficial to me than some buffs, especially during launch when every zone will be full of people casting the same buffs on you regardless
>>585592889A person capped at level 50 can still farm gold sure. But they cant farm nearly as much gold nor max level gear.
>>585592847Mentally ill women in their 40s write the best shit. Especially those that specialize in nihilistic Buddhism and existential despair.
>>585592941>restedXP*reports u* nothing personel :)
>>585593106>>585593106>>585593106
>>585592314Am I the only one choosing RP server because I can't think of a funny/clever name and don't want to feel out of place on the other servers.
>>585592348Nope, never was. Rape isn't mentioned whatsoever in Warcraft 1, Warcraft 2, Warcraft 3 or World of Warcraft (2004). Rape doesn't exist in Azeroth.
>>585593017you realize the economy is also capped and scaled down in that case? if sweat at 60 has 8000% more gold than dad then it still going to be 8000% at 50, just less in total, because cap affects everyone and everything
>>585592864So you're more into manwha where gates appear in your world instead of you going into another world? Well I like them as well but not as much
That book collection shit for a random level 20 ring / necklace has got to be the dumbest addition. You literally cannot get the ones in enemy-faction areas unless there's a wall of players taking guard-aggro trying to do the same thing. Also players camp these spot to specifically gank members of the other faction who try to grab books.Maybe if it was bind on account unlock for alts but forever doesn't seem to be alt-friendly at all, though you're expected to no-life level numerous characters for legacy talents. It's just bizarre i really don't have high hopes for this game mode the devs are out of touch. The nerf to stats on gear was the second nail in the coffin
Is the economy actually going to be an issue with the new Realm thing. In the past the different servers were limited by the people in them, but with everyone in a single realm, won't it be far more difficult for people to try and control any kind of economy, even with large guilds you would need something like Olympus to affect real changes against the amount of people playing.
>>585593217That sounds like the same thing as isekai
>>585593197>Rape doesn't exist in AzerothExplain what happened to Alexstraza then
>>585592773That is more shocking to find out than seeing the image it for the first time.
>>585593486How is stealing eggs rape?
>>585563021Why don't the AI slop coders make a clone of this instead of the 500th QoL thanks for the buff addon?
>>585593548ikr
LAUNCH NIGHT>MAKE MAIN AND ONE ALT FOR EACH CLASS>RUN ALL ALTS TO NEAREST INN FOR RESTED XP>GET TO 60 WITH TWO GATHERING PROFESSIONS FOR LEGACY POINTS>GET ALTS TO 25 FOR ALL CRAFTING PROFESSIONSAre you faggots already planning how to maximize your legacy points or are you going to fall behind?
>>585593704You can only use 16 points lil gup
>>585590997>>I am now stuck having to do it again for no EXP until his item dropsgenuinely curious, why do people care about any item before level 60?I understand that some items from the 40s 50s might be pre-bis, but who the fuck wants to stay at level 20 for longer for an item you replace by a questing items 10 hours later
>>585590997>I am now stuckNo you're just an autistic retard. Noone normal cares about farming leveling gear.
>>585595468my bro is stubborn and since he is main tank has main character syndrome and wants the best loot for any given level - bracket
>>585569974>AI Sloppa thumpnail>WHITE TEXT YELLOW TEXT>First line of video description is shilling his 30$ gold making guide
>>585595468Because getting new items is cool, you fucking faggot.Literal retoilet mindset. If anything, it should take twice as long to get to 60, so gearing up in dungeons should be MANDATORY, just to make you rushfags miserable.
>>585568532I just did the same. Got it first try
>>585589959Because it was fucking terrible...?
>>585563021curseforge unironically funds the IDF
>>585563021you actually don't get the option to disable any of this if you live in the US lol, its mossad spyware
>>585597423your the maddest faggot ive seen in awhile seethe
