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>>585656930whats crazy is that I look l like that
>>585657068Overweight? Yeah, we're not surprised.
I cracked bros... I need to play...
>>585656930She dates human men by the way
>>585656943The downside is you are playing the faction filled with all the retarded streamer chasing zoomers. Have fun ever trying to win a bg as Alliance.
Lore dump me on Matt, why do we hate him?
Bros...
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>Decide to play on a pvp server for the first time during the beta>Experience is shattered by the terrible sharding >Even had an open world raid be split by sharding Guess I'm going crawling back to pve. Pvp was fun but honestly I don't think I'm cut out for it. Every time I saw opposite faction shitters out in the open world I wasn't really interested in fighting over leveling anyway. I imagine level 60 open world pvp has to be a blast though.
>>585656930Why aren't the /vg/guilds included?
Tier sets from Mount Hyjal will grant +2% crit every Thursday the 20th but only if it's the Vernal Equinox
>>585657408have fun in dead world
>>585657193Baseball huh? That tracks.
>>585657669The tank sets will be +10 arcane resist
>>585657408Just play hardcore like the rest of us until forever releases.
what the fuck am i meant to do for 10 days
>>585657774The IWF weightlifting championships start tomorrow, watch that to get ready for all-nighters
>>585657820the huh?
>>585657669SOUL
ISN'T IT EMBARRASSING TO BLIZZARDThat after 30 days in the beta, they couldn't hammer out and fix racials so everyone could have a viable combat racial to activate that was balanced and passives that made coherent senseOr the fact that they couldn't fix the character models in SD and HD so animations weren't janky while moving, fighting or wearing items, let alone make the character appearance fit the modelBut they can let a mentally ill troon dictate and fight it's culture war over the sex selector on the character creation screenIF THEY CAN'T GET THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE GAME IRONED OUT, WHAT HOPE DOES THE REST OF THE GAME HAVE UNDER THEIR INCOMPETENT LEADERSHIP
>>585657764I tried but it's kinda boring. World buffs and everyone being twinked out makes it too ez. Maybe I'll try on the dead server instead.
>>585657774You're gonna get fat playing so much as well get some exercise done before it comes out.
thats it im fasting till wow release i can do it i just need to sleep and comamaxx goodbye world
>>585657774The same stuff you did before Forever beta?
>>585657774masturbate and shitpost
>>585657965I can't exercise. I'm too depressed. I need my foreveranyl then I can do some pushups maybe.
>>585657930That's why I'll probably drop the game in two months once the cracks start breaking when everyone hits 60.
>>585656930Woah I love elves now
>>585657610two weeks after launch they are going to be dead guilds with maybe 2 bank bots that occasionally come online for few seconds.just like every single other time.
Getting two ounces of weed for launch, do we think its going to be enough?
>>585657930>m-muh op racials11!!! I can't breathe!1!!!time to learn how to play mudhutter.
I played prot paladin/feral druid on the beta and had fun with them/enjoyed instant group creation. I got bored and made a hunter on era and am finding it to be very very very fun to play. Would I be absolutely cucking myself as a pure dps (non warlock) come launch? I worry I won't get into any group and will just solo quest to 60 which would be fine if there weren't new dungeons to engage with.
>>585658084Yeah, you tranny detractors are the reason
>>585658190nah it's not that bad, people harp on about it but they are babiessometimes it will take a while to get groupsbut if you are proactive that will help a lot (make your own group and start whispering any likely tanks/healers from LFG or elsewhere)
>>585657930"Why isn't everything streamlined, and homogenized, and lacking jank, while I simultaneously will whine and bitch about changes violating the spirit of classic???"
>>585658190I played a Hunter in beta and I was getting groups consistently. Sometimes I would have to wait for 20 or 30 minutes but I did every dungeon I wanted to do. If there's a problem getting groups it will be more at 60 and with raid spots.
>>585658190hunter is the lone wolf class, don't expect to get groupsalso only playing hunter on era and then rolling hunter on forever launch day might be dangerousI don't play it myself but saw ahmpy say after his very first auto shot on hunter that something felt wrong about it
>>585658110im tempted to get some but it literally just makes me paranoid, neurotic, and unable to communicateand fucks my lungs up after smoking daily for a few daysyet I still smoked daily for years, and still get the urge to sometimes
>>585657930Even if they settled on something you wouldn't be happy you're a a wow gamer.
>>585657930I dont think Blizzard is capable of feeling embarrassment anymore. They're completely numb.
>>585657930horde players are such queers
>>585658374>I don't play it myself but saw ahmpy say after his very first auto shot on hunter that something felt wrong about itPeople were just bitching that you don't need to ability weave between shots now and the auto swap between melee/ranged. The latter is just a straight up net positive you'd have to be autistic to care about and the former is sort of give or take. The stutter step shit already got fixed.
>>585658393Edibles? Or are you too fat
>>585658393ya im glad it doesn't make me paranoid or anything, that would suck. i did switch from smoking to vaporizer tho
>>585658558maybe so, I'm not an authority on the topicI just think it's a dangerous game to start playing a brand new class on era and deciding to roll that on forever
DUDE
Add Satyr for Horde please
>>585658769WEED!!!
>>585658747you sound like a complete retardyou can absolutely get groups as hunter, they are not really the "lone wolf" although it's a super strong solo classyou sound like a streamer shit-eater regurgitating slop content you heard on youtube"I just think it's a dangerous game" nigga shit the fuck up, stop spouting nonsense
NERF HUMANNERF GNOMENERF DWARFNERF NIGHT ELFBUFF UNDEAD
>>585658861okmy groups fill up as fast as I can send out invites and I never invite hunters (or sky elves) btw
I'm going to make a white Aryan Skyborne mage and pretend he's a High Elf and none of you can stop me.
>>585658990wtf are you talking about?
>>585658962Best we can do is buff human again
>>585658747You can take the opportunity in the lull and try out one of the countless vibe-assembled private Forever servers and get a feel for F!Hunter. As for social and group opportunities, that is more on you the player than your class. Getting into groups is going to be extremely easy, even for a dps, due to the surge of fresh server levelers, and within those groups, it's up to you to take the initiative to chat and have fun with your fellow dungeoneers. Finding a group, or even just a tank or a healer, that you click with, adding them, and sticking together is the 2nd step towards making WoW friends and communities/guilds to play with in the long term.
>>585659110btw, here's a screenshot I took showing how fucking over it is for you. every dungeon was like thisenjoy your scraps
>>585658962What if instead we make each race really good at one specific thing, like make orcs good at using 2h axes and give classes other than priest unique racism spells
I invite everybody because I'm not gay
>>585659107You and the other 90% of skyborne apparently
>>585659191why are you telling me this? i dont care and i dont play hunterim just pointing out you are a larping retard who should not inflict his opinions on others
>>585659202Every spell is a racism spell when I cast it.
>tfw you play shaman
>>585659202>If you dont use a 2h axe and play orc you're basically retardedNo
>>585659304Because you lied. You will struggle to get groups as a hunter.
>>585659304sorry, we already have a leather wearer in the group. at least you can farm elites out in the world though!
Which classes are good for dad gamers?
>>585658990I don't invite hunters but how do you know which one is a skyelf?
>>585659349>Oh shit that orc is using a SWORD it must be insanely powerful for him to forego an axeA simple crit or weapon skill racial barely affects muh parse but at the same time creates instant impact when you look at ap layer
>>585659346dont worry bro aggrend will take care of us trust
>>585659346you can heal and drop totems for my groups
>>585659514/who their name or shift click their name in chat
>>585659449This dad gamer meme is so fucking gay i hope all that wear this tag get flayed alive.
>>585659514by their name>faye featherdweeb >calistra arcanstone >legolas limpdick
oh boy i cant wait to fill the empty zones with no quests left with mob grinding cause dungeon xp is fucked thanks faggrend
>>585659449Mage
hearthstone did gnoems girls right.forever needs more gnomes
>>585659449Can I call myself a dad gamer if I'm 37 years old but also a wizard?
Is shaman healing hard? I've never healed in this game, so I want to try something new.
>>585659449Any class you want. As a dadgamer, you've earned your 2 hours of gaming time each week, so play what you want. If wifey doesn't have a headache and needs you to handle babby, that is.
>>585659684literally the only reason to rush to 60 is to find a guild devoid of "dad gamers"I would like to smell the roses, but the thought of having to play with these people is harrowing
>>585659812Absolutely not.
>>585659587No that's still gay
>>585659837Healing in general for classic/forever is not hard
>10 more days of my gay life without forever
>>585659837Can you spam chain heal?
>>585658326>>585658290Thanks, I want to do group content as much as possible but I felt so strong as a hunter. Just being able to send a pet in to tank something as I go grab objectives and then fuck off was such a nice QoL thing alongside the minigame of getting and upgrading pets. Would really like to play it but it'd be a shame to hit 60 fast and then have to beg for raid spots.
sisters im nervous about not being able to follow the arrow. will restedxp be updated for the new quests and zones?
>>585659934Tired of being reminded that you're a genetic dead end?
how often do you find leyline shit as skelf? do you have it up a lot while leveling?
>>585660192it's the most played class by a country mile. if you like sending in your pet while you herb/mine/do other things and want to be desired in groups and raids you should consider warlock
>>585660230no I just don't want to play with dead weight that goes afk every other pull. Sorry!
>>585660209>new zonesThe only leveling zone that exists is the riverglades. The guide is already set for 30 and you can just follow the arrow until riverglades, do riverglades, and hop back into wherever level bracket that actually spits you back out at.
Restedxp is illegal and you shouldnt use it
>>585660303There are usually 1-2 up in every zone, but theres a bunch of spawn locations which can change if you get layered. Theres an addon that shows you where the nearest one is on your layer if anyone using the addon sees it which I assume most skelves will download.
>>585660346Sorry clothies are gross. If it had more pet variety where I was out in the world hunting an assortment of demons I'd consider but sadly.
>>585660434>which I assume most skelves will downloadbold
>>585660390wowever has a built-in dps meter and the retail auction house, i don't need addons at all anymore
>>585660346it doesn't matter if it's the most played class, you can still get/make groups, it's not some impossible task just somewhat more difficultalso it's played a lot more on the beta because hunter was brokenand furtheralso a lot of hunters are super casual and will barely even try to raid
>>585659934in my experience its much better to raid with the 'dad gamers' rather than classic neets who are all drug addicts with emotional issues
>>585659684you'd feel differently if you weren't genetic dead end.
>>585659449Any class you want. Being a dad isnt about you having to adapt to the game, its about forcing the devs to make the game piss easy to accommodate to you not moving on in life.
>>585660728once you have a babby you have no choice about how you feelor at least how you have to pretend to feel
>>585657068tits or gtfo
if your argument is about having sex post your child or stfu
chances of getting demon hunters in forever?
>>585660889Zero.Illiden is the only demon hunter, its not a class.
aieeee blizzard i kneel! blizzard was foreshadowing the skyborne since warcraft IIIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28F_FOhvQi8
>>585660985what about the other fags you can build in wc3?
SHOULD I PLAY DRUID OR PALADINRolling RP-PVP and I want to tank but I also don't want to get absolutely butt fucked in solo world PVP
>>585661094Druid
>>585660743>complains about others not moving on in life>while single and childless in his 30s playing the nth rerelease of a 20 year old gamelmao
>>585661094druid
>>585661094PaladinOnly literal zoophiles play druid.
>>585661094Druid is way better of an open world character across the board
>>585661132mmos are not a dad genreplay something else or accept being permanently behind neets and zoomers
>>585661132uh oh we got dad aggro
>>585661012HOLY! They played the long con. Metzen-sama, I kneel.
>>585659837Healing will only ever be as hard as your party members' lack of awareness makes it. Healing itself is just keeping an eye on health bars and what your party members are doing, so you can see that half of those mouth-breathing retards aren't going to move out of danger, and pre-cast your healing response.
>>585661051nah, even the idea is fucking retarded. Look at all the steps it takes to get to be illiden and people just go okay lets ctrl+c ctrl+v
You cannot solve the tank shortage by adding more tank classes. In fact the tank shortage will be worse than ever before in WoWF.>only 1 dungeon run required per dungeon while leveling for maximum xp>raids only require 2 tanks at all raid sizes>tanks are not viable in pvp>being the tank makes you the babysitter of at least 3 retards every time you want to do anythingIt's very obvious why no one tanks and no steps are ever taken to fix these issues. How to get more people to play tanks>tanking damage and utility overhauls to make them viable in pvp>20 raids need 3 tanks, 40 needs 5.>increase dungeon kill xp, and low dungeon quest xp so running multiple times is as good as world questing>the tank in 5 man runs has special loot permissions and can cause poorly behaving dps players from winning any item rolls without them knowing
>>585661242>mmos are not a dad genrelmao
I spit on de horde
>>585661291I agree with what you're saying. It would have to be some kind of gated or prestige class to really make sense. And I don't see blizzard pulling that off. But they will probably just slap it in as a normal class at some point.
>>585660230>>585660728this guy is projecting and jacks off only to fag porn
>>585660743If you want hard modes, just play retail.
>>585661132If you were able to move on you wouldnt be playing WoW....again, especially with a family. But you're a manchild that just happened to snag some slag that shat out Tyrones kid.
>>585661363they're a millennial genrenot a dad one
>>585661291You say this about every new class though
>>585661478>porn addicted NEET inserts his BLACKED cuckhold fetish out of nowhere
>Why won't Blizzard let me asocially spam instances and speedrun to endgame?Retoilet is down the hall and to the left. This game is not for you.
uh oh dad meltie! surely you log off and play candy crush on your phone
Increase all dungeon mob damage by 400%Make every tank 31 point talent include:>"Take 80% less damage in dungeons">"Gain a vendorable item worth 30 gold every time you kill the final boss of a dungeon."
Im 37 and my wife is having a kid in april. I am going to join a guild as the MT to funnel as much gear to me as possible and then quit, probably destroying the game for at least 19 other people.Thanks blizzard for giving me this opportunity.
>>585661478Why the fuck did you bring up nigger dicks and cuckoldry all of a sudden?
>>585661591Shouldnt you be spending time with your kid (assuming its yours) right now?
>>585661291>Look at all the steps it takes to get to be illiden and people just go okay lets ctrl+c ctrl+vIllidan is a special Donut Steel character one of a kind as of WC3 and then by the time we get to WoW there's that one random DH npc and also early promo material shoving random DH in it because they liked the idea. All you need out of a DH is that you do retarded anime slashes and you drink demon cum. Illidan is the most special boy ever who drinks the skull of Gul'dan and is the most anime. A shitty DH even in the context of WoW can just be a guy who can do very small anime slashes and drinks a very shitty demon skull.
>>585661709>and my wife is having a kid in aprilOh yeah? Whos the father?
the dad FEARS the 30 year old degen gamer
>>585661798Anon, it's 9:41 PM. You really should open those blinds and get back on a healthy sleep schedule. Maybe wake up early tomorrow and hand out some resumes?
>>585661832me
>>585661832You are an extremely damaged individual.
>>585661832gottem
>>585661831I dont see it as that easy, like whats the difference between a demon hunter and a satyr? Both ne corrupted by burning legion - fell energies shit.
>not being a child support evading deadbeat and playing wow 14 hours a daylmaoing @ ur life
>>585661939And he says I'm the one thats strawmanning.
>>585661832I am the father of my own child. You know you can dna test while your kid is still in the womb now, right?
you know its trans if it brings up pornography
Im a sperm donor so I dont need to have kids.
>half the thread are reddit dadsdevastating aura loss for /wowfg/….
>>585662156if you had to test its because you had doubtlet me know when i can smash her next cucky
>Implement a system similar to Overwatch where player stats are tracked inside a dungeon, but have it running in the background>Tanks and healers are determined by who healed the most and who absorbed the most damage (a dps could try and grief this, but they would be kicked pretty quickly)>When all bosses in a dungeon are defeated the tank and healer get full (or 80% if you want it to still be worse than questing) mob EXP for all enemies that were killedExplain why this wouldnt work.
>>585661691What tank doesn't want 31 points in their tree? Shield slam is looking good, ferals will want berserk, is holy shield a meme or something?
>>585662247You act like this game mode ever stood a chance. It's already DOA.
>>585661832i am the father i cucked him out of playing wow now he has to raise my son and he doesnt get to play wow kek
>watching a video>retail retconned te bel Mana addictionwait, wtf?
>>585656930God I need a nelf hotwife
>36, KHHV WFH incel ready to sweat it upSee you all in stv
>>585662156>He doesnt knowlollmao
What are orc naming conventions for their surnames?
>>585662151>YOU SHOULD BE WITH YOUR CHILD RIGHT NOW>Anon, it's 10PM on a school night. They are asleep. >HOLY STRAWMAN NIGGER DICKS NIGGER DICKS BBC BREEDING KEKS KEK BBCAre you okay, Anon?
how do I find a gamer did who will be my free use slut
>>585662309post the full nelfie album
>>585662369I think it's weapons or fathers.
>>585662101That they're anime characters and also unlike satyr cucks Illidan (DH) get to be goku instead of abominations. You just scale it down from 1v1ing Arthas and there you go. Like people focus too much on the fact Illidan specifically is the ultimate gamer when all you have to do is work your way back. They're just martial night elf warriors who can shoot demon cum abilities. Translate them to vanilla: DH get SLASH to do a MASSIVE weapon damage+3 on the next auto and then you just have a bunch of garbage up until 60 where METAMORPHOSIS comes online and for 20 FUCKING seconds you get 7% FUCKING crit.
Why are Indians obsessed with negro penises?
>>585661832lul
>>585662369edgy me am orc WOYER ex: hellscream, doomhammer, bladefistmash two words together you think are XxcoolxX
>>585662369Gibsme
we finna parse on ragna
my wife's son watching me play wow I don't see what the problem is
>>585662369They have to sound like the title of a metal album
anyone want to level with me rp pvp horde
The dadgamers are more sensitive than I realised.
sod was for dadgamersforever is for sweats that want to prey on dadgamers
>>585662597sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
I think I'm going paladin over druid solely because I'm able to equip more types of gear.
Why the heck can't undead be hunters? There's only 1 class that uses ranged weapons and undead can't be that class. So undead will just never use ranged weapons? Undead Archers are such a vibe though. They're really going to force me to be a nancy boy, waving a wand around shouting "lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!"??They really need to redo the class system. Hunter should be split into 2 classes, and so should Warrior.Hunter Class 1: Ranger (ranged weapons, no pets)Spec 1: Straight dps focusing on ranged weaponSpec 2: Stealth focused, lower dps, trap settingSpec 3: Support, faster movement, marking targetsHunter Class 2: Beast Master (ranged or melee weapons, tameable pet)Spec 1: Beast Mastery, buffing petSpec 2: Melee focused, tank and dps treeSpec 3: Ranged weapon dps focusedWarrior Class 1: Fighter (melee dps that wears mail/plate, can use any combination of melee weapons)Warrior Class 2: Guardian (melee tank, wears mail/plate, no dual wield option, can use 2h)Blizzard is such shit now I can't even dude. 20 years for just faggoty blue elves and 1% racial changes.
>>585662309who doesn't
>>585662374>HOLY STRAWMAN NIGGER DICKS NIGGER DICKS BBC BREEDING KEKS KEK BBCThis really got to you, huh?
>>585662853Animals wouldnt want to be around rotting zombies
>>585662875Random freaks derailing conversations to talk about Black cocks and cuckoldry is pretty fucking weird, bro.
>>585662660dey b seething I fuck dey daughters when dey out workin n shiet mofukka
I can't decide between human or UD paladin, on pvp server. I've been troubled by this question for 2 weeks now. Help me decide /wowfg/.
>>585662853>Why the heck can't undead be hunters?A lot of class restrictions on launch were really just for parity between races but the general concept was the forsaken did not keep living pets around and they didn't want undead animals as a forsaken only thing.
>>585661302>>tanking damage and utility overhauls to make them viable in pvpIsnt this exactly what they did? Shield slam does a bunch more damage now and other prot talents shave off a lot of the cooldowns of warrior interrupts.
>>585662853Nathanos personally re-deads any Forsaken would-be Hunters to maintain his special position.
>>585662996whichever faction you want
I'm gonna make a dwarf paladin and I'm gonna get an extra free wedge of cheese from every chest and you're all gonna be so jealous
why are dark irons grey again?
>>585662921Being more concerned about WoW....again (that you get heated over a 4chan post) than your family is pretty fucking weird, bro.
>>585662996do you prefer castles and sexy purple elves or rotting flesh and hunchbacks?
>>585663163Volcanic Ash / Deep in the underground caves / chocolate milk, your choice.
>>585661302I'd solve it by making the game so easy that you can complete dungeons without a tank.
>>585657930Has there ever been a WoW expansion that was fully hammered out by the release date?
>>585663305Wouldn't cave-dwelling make them pale?
>>585663158Be careful anon you know what they say, a moment on the lips a lifetime on the hips
>>585663476it's radioactive down there and the ash-colored pigments absorb the radiation
Maybe I just haven't played enough on the Alliance side to know but it seems like there are a ton of mobs that a friendly to Alliance but hostile to Horde. Like there is just a ton of questing areas where an Alliance can freely roam through the mobs to kill Horde but on the opposite side Horde doesn't get any areas where mobs are friendly to them but hostile to Alliance.
>>585663163In universe it's because they hang out underground and have elemental fire ties after being enslaved by Rag. Out of universe it's to easily see they're different from player dwarves and because they're stolen from DnD (Duergar) just like most shit in WoW.
>>585661832Our dog
Alright lads, should I do it, Alliance as the main game and then roll a horde as the expansion pack?
>>585663476That's just for the orcs. Dark Iron dwarves actually have Dark Iron poisoning which, unlike mercury's blue-tint, turns them dark grey with glowing red eyes.
>>585663557do you mean faction aligned mobs like this?
Alliance will be faction locked on launch day btwYou have maybe 1 hour tops when name reserves go live to make your OP alli toon or be left behind forever
>>585663634Not gonna lie though, I like the dark iron aesthetic more than the duergar
>>585663984Yes like how the entire hillsbrad farm area is friendly to alliance but horde have to quest there
>>585662996HumanWe don't want indecisive fence sitters on the horde.
>>585662853The forsaken aren't skeletons, therefore they can't be skeleton archers. Checkmate, my friend.
>>585664041But that's horde
>>585663478Keep your meat full and round
>>585663305>>585663532>>585663775Why are dwarves so fucking hot?
pveGODS where we at
>>585664169>every streamer going alliance>every pvp tryhard going alliance>every pve tryhard going alliance>every normie going alliance to pick humanUnless they do emergency buffs to Horde racials then like 80% of the game is gonna be Alliance.
>jaina is in her 50s>hasn't had a kidis jaina infertile because she's transgender
>>585664295you overestimate the influence of racials and streamersthere are a lot of millennials who will go horde pvp just because
>>585664325who would even marry her? isn't she known as the mage who betrayed her home kingdom and got her own dad killed?
>>585664506>who would even marry her?me
>Get an automatic raid slot for the summon>Send my foid in, tab out and start shitposting hereIf you're not playing demo lock you're not playing the game
>>585664497You are underestimating the influence of racials and streamers
>>585664295>>585664497This.You're discounting the PVP normies who will sub just for nostalgia. They'll all join horde thinking its the PVP race (which it is btw. Nothing beats cannablize and the class/racial fantasy of the "bad guy" faction is always present in pvp too)
>>585664064two areas in ashenvale, one with forsaken, then with orcs at the lumbermill. then orbs in the farms in arathi highlands.there's probably some more. but there's probably more questing zones where you kill alliance as horde.
>>585664585let's see when happens then genius>80%loldo you have a more serious number?
>>585663557The logging area in east Ashenvale and the orc farm in Arathi are the only significant areas I can think of.
>>585664561I'm closing this thread the second I'm in game. this is a waiting room
Do you think Victus or Requiem is a better last name?
princess theradras owes me sex
>>585664730>>585663557I played alliance in the beta but there were some cool forsaken guys in ashenvale that I assume are horde-friendly. I think they're new.
is widowmaker from overwatch a sylvanas clone
>>585664823wtf
>>585664752first one
>>585664064In essence: narratively, the Horde are literally homeless roamers who have only -just- established new homes within the last 1-3 years, after fleeing the Eastern Kingdoms continent (or being picked up by Thrall in the case of the Tauren) and concluding the Third War w/ Jaina's forces and the Night Elves. Prior to this, the orcs only relatively recently invaded the Eastern Kingdoms through a legit magical portal connected to another planet, the Darkspear trolls were living on an island off the STV coast, the Tauren were wanderers getting constantly picked apart by Centaurs, and the Forsaken were living humans+elves in Lordaeron+Quel'thalas.Comparitively, the forces of the Alliance (Stormwind, former Human kingdoms that collapsed, Dwarves, less so for Gnomes, but yes for Night Elves) have thousands of years of history, culture, and established society on the Eastern Kingdoms continent. While the Orcs' invasion sacked and razes a bunch of places, there were still survivors, and much of the structures still survived, same w/ Gilneas, Alterac, Dalaran, and Arathi's living remnants after the big zombie rush in Lordaeron. Eastern Kingdom is largely able to maintain 'faction conflict' because there's survivors in the north for the undead Forsaken to clash with, and orc+troll pockets in the south for Stormwind+Ironforge to clash with. You get some of it in Kalimdor w/ the Night Elves vs Orcs, but otherwise Kalimdor is a more hostile, wild environment in comparison.
This one pic someone always posts has convinced me to resub for TBC Anniversary while I wait.hopefully I don't burn out.Also its censored since I'm rolling a belf woman but I'm not a faggot.
do phoneposters have these frogs built into their apps or what
Blizzard is gonna return this command, r-right?
>>585665016that's aislop retard
>>585664997While it makes sense for the lore it also ends up giving the Alliance a fuckload of areas they can freely gank in.
>>585665183roll up with your boys to counter gank them>pretend the blood elf is blue for wowf purposesyou do have friends right?
>>585664561>Pay a mage to level me from 1 to 60>Pay a Chinese guy to grind gold for me>Pay a guild to get my character full raid gear>All so I can have my pet kill mobs while I'm tabbed out
>>585664295>e-everyone will roll alliance because of STREAMERS!fucking americans lmao
>>585665428This pic tuff.
Who gives a fuck about racials. The game is easy. A .05% edge is retarded to care about. Parses are worse than retail faggots.
How many Riverglades like zones would needed to be added to actually make the 14-52 range of leveling (so outside of the tutorial zones and the ‘I need to level and prebis’ zone) feel like a branching network of leveling options and live up to the whole ‘new journey every time’ concept? Because, honestly, not to be grim but I can’t imagine it’s much less than twelve. Otherwise you’re just making a couple of tourist vistas.
>>585665016Her expression is honestly very cute.Orc Chad btw
>>585665428I played horde pvp on the beta and it honestly just made me want to roll alliance. The horde players where total pussies and would let alliance gank squads take over zones constantly.
>>585665825>horde players where total pussies and would let alliance gank squads take over zones constantly.what the fuck? this shit should be the other way around lol. At least in my experience when I used to play WoW
I think I'm going to roll Skyborne
>>585665183Yeah, that's what the devs get for pursuing Red vs Blue faction conflict instead of Rep Faction vs Rep Faction faction conflict. If you started on Kalimdor, then sailed to the Eastern Kingdoms at 40+, you'd choose to back the Forsaken vs Human Kingdom Remnants, or Stormwind vs Gurubashi Trolls, etc.
i think im gonna roll female human rogue and become a pumper
Well /wowfg/ what's the highest you got?
>>585665880Both sides are pussied out, its not a horde v ally thing its a zoomer and dadgamer thing
>>585665910I wish the horde skyborne wasn't so doodoo or I would play it
>>585665825ive played both factions off and on for 20 years and i cannot remember a single moment where alliance was not the underdog. playing horde made me quit for entire expansions a couple times because of how easy battlegrounds were. is this just a meme to complain as a horde player? i dont get it
>>585665713Legitimately depends on the dropped/unfinished storylines and creating in-betweens for already existing ones. Lore establishes territory, which is then filled to enable gameplay. The former textureless dead-zone where the Shen'dralar will exist between Desolace/Feralas/Mulgore, for example, also has existing areas such as between Un'goro/Feralas/1kN, and all around Sithilus itself. The same could be said for the entire northern coast of Kalimdor (probably being saved for a Northren/Scourge invasion tho), while the E.K. continent has the area between Stormwind and Ironforge, pockets in the north by the Plaguelands, and the southern coast in general.In truth, though, I don't expect entirely new zones for the mid-game so much as new sub-zones added for connecting story-chains that were one-and-done in vanilla. I'd expect the actual new zones, new landmasses to come in the form of new 60+ zones, to accomodate content patches like "The Lich King's Scourge invades Kalimdor+E.K.!", or "The Burning Legion shat out invasions along the southern coast of Blasted Lands, and in Azshara."
>>585666317These guys complaining are tards. Both sides do the same thing, ironically because all the high level/60s are in the opposite faction's lowbie zones ganking their own lowbies are getting counter ganked resulting in bitching from both sides.
>>585665135lil monkey fella
>Roll ally, get viciously ganked in redridge/wetlands>Try horde some years later, get viciously ganked in hillsbrad and stonetalonSame old shit no matter which side you're on
>>585666541Its kind of crazy how there are genuinely low IQ 'people' too blind to recognize both sides are identical, and such apes VOTE IRL
you now miss reckfulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZ6BPx78WM
>>585667174inverted nipples
>>585667228Gotta get them out
>10 more days of thisI'm tired
my favourite part of fresh is wanding for 6 days. comfy af
>>585667539>using a wandhow lewd
>>585667650(gnome) tehe
>>585656930Couldn't care less about Forever, the golden age of private servers is coming soon.
So I heard a statistic...Apparently in order to be level 60 by the time raids are released you would have to play 5 hours every day until the raids launched.Most people do not have this kind if time. I know a few privileged individuals will.I really want to take the time to explore the world and quests available to us throughout this new journey. With that schedule it will rushed. FOMO will kick in for players and people will feel left behind.I know people are saying it will be mostly horizontal progression, so you have a lot of time, but there still will be vertical progression each raid tier.I think it will hurt a lot less to push the raids back by a few weeks rather then keep them where they are.What do you all think?
>>585667872>The golden age of Cease and Desist
>>585665135they said it was causing people with fog on fps issues being near people with fog off
stressing out cause i didnt practice my 1-10 and they closed the beta. ffs
>>585667174this guy completely stopped drawing, right? shame
>>585667893I think you should stop reposting reddit posts.
>>585664215i dunno anon you tell me
>>585667872>all this shit>no satyrsunless i'm blind this is bullshit
Did anyone play a troll mage during the beta/stress test? How was it since i'm thinking of choosing that
>>585667872>goblin>alpha goblinlmao what
did anyone that had the beta happen to test if names became available right after deleting a character? I remember they added a variable timer to it at some point in classicwondering if I should try and come up with my tinker/necromancer/warden names now so I have something ready, but if I have to wait a day after deleting then I might as well not
>>585667893
>>585668461It's the same as troll mage ever was except now you can sheep something and use a free bandage
I'm only wasting my time with warcraft again because the world is ending soon
>>585658315no one wanted Victory Rush, Wrack, Ice Lance, Seal of Fury, Holy Strike, Frostfire Bolt, Transmog, Legacy Points, Achievements, we especially didnt want them to fuck the baseline of spells causing a seismic rift to gear philosophy which the game completely revolves around. we wanted new dungeons mostly using the old spellbook with the shit tiers specs lowest common denominator lifted to viable not some frankenstein abomination of what should have been classic+
>>585667872>centaur>hordeare you having a joke with me?
Dwarf paladin or dwarf warrior? I would probably level as ret as a paladin and prot as a warrior.
>>585668720good to know
>>585668808Many have said this before
>>585668830Absolutisms such as "we" and "no one" that attempt to invoke the stance of the majority are always a sign of you smooth-brained retards either parroting shit you don't understand, or shit-posting for a cause you don't actually give a shit about.
>>585668808Is something finally happening?
>>585668830whos we nigga
>>585668913>dwarfThey have the worst animations, just go gnome
I hope they add DK because I'm rolling Dwarf and want everyone to seethe at my unpopular race having a full disease immunity.
I’m rolling an arcane mage and i don’t care what you say about it
>>585669185Death to all gnomes.
>>585668830Victory rush is nice thoughbeit
>>585669185Cool as casters
>>585669243I hope you fucking enjoy it, you technicolor spermrocket
>>585669185their casting animations are awesome, especially the female dwarves
Are we thinking RPPVP or PVP, my fellow queers? I'm thinking just PVP because I'm playing Horde & I think Alliance might be overpopulated on RPPVP.
>>585669546join us on rp-pvp, you fag
>>585658962what if we got rid of race and class buffs and let you play any style you want :3
>>585667872What the fuck
>>585668245What faction and race I am such an autist I can help you unironically
>>585660889Spellbreaker class. Blood Elves for Horde, High Elves for Alliance. Spellbreaker for Horde gets specific Illidari abilities based on fel, and Spellbreaker for Alliance gets holy abilities based on the light.
>>585669686gnome priest, i gotta figure out what strat is for getting wands
>>585669616Is there a Horde guild on RPPVP?
>>585669829strat is run to main city and make the white wand right at level 5, takes like less than a silver
>>585669829Skin a few mobs and vendor the leather and buy wand on auction house for 5 silver ...
>>585669912I don't know, I'm playing ally with my friends I've played wow with for 20 years
WHAT IF there was a THIRD faction, called the Illidari, where it was Homo Elves, Naggas, Satyr, and DEMONS!
>Prot looking jank>Holy looking dogshitNot feeling safe as a pinkie gang...
>>585669964and ogres?
>>585669939>i have friends>i play allianceWow, hope you die
>>585669964And drayads
>>585670035they're only internet friends if that makes you feel better
>>585670082I bet you play a stinking onahole gnome
>>585669923oh so they changed up enchating and added another wand under lesser magic wand
>>585669964I have always wanted to be an illidan
>>585670115even worse, human
>>585670178the illidan dlc costs $700
>female human warrior vs female ne warriorWho should I play Forever?Hardmode ignore racials
>>585668830>no one wanted Victory RushFuck you, yes I did. I don't even care if it heals you. It's another button to press, it helps you kill faster, and it doesn't cost rage. It's nice in dungeons when tanking because it lets me get a lot of snap threat on the next pull or another mob in the pack like yea, fuck the heal and pump the damage, first aid providing potions is a god send to warriors.
>>585670206I will have to ask mummy
>>585667872>every race>every classBlizzard hire this man
>>585670126yup, i think its 4-8 damage and takes one wood and one mote (a white enchanting mat sold on the vendor)
>>585670270You know what you must do, be the female ne warrior you were born to be.
>>585670270nelfie
>>585668913Paladin
>>585657898Powershitter and roidtranny competition.
>>585670270They are both nice but I prefer nelf (sd of course)
Here’s how to save world of Warcraft (too late but a forever pserver could)HordeOrcTrollTaurenOgreForsakenUndeadQuel Thalas elvesWorgen possiblyAllianceHumanDwarfNelfGnomeNeutral faction that picks a side after completing their starter zoneGoblin
i tried to convince my brothers to roll alliance so i can join the le 4chan Guilde, but alas, i have failed, and now i must commit the Honorabru Sepukue
>>585670538What the hell is a Quel Thalas Elve
warrior or hunter for pvp?hunter seems better overall but I've got a friend going healer, will warriors still be a bowling ball in pvp with a pocket healer?
>WoW Forever Beta Review>"Guys it has... uh... QUESTS! WoW Classic had fewer quests than this!">And uhh.... FOG! They added atmostphere to the game!>It's amazing! 10/10 Blizzard nailed it!
I wonder how many zoomie stream enjoyers will go alliance warlock for the epic BASED pvp experience
>>585670682They are grading the game on potential more than anything else.
>>585670638when it comes to vanilla pvp nothing tops being a warrior with a healbot friend desu
>>585670682>ummm yeah i guess it's just... le fog!>yep that's all that changed!>heh, time to make a frogpost
>>585670682The beta alone was the most fun I've had in WoW in probably 15 years. I don't care if launch ends up good. the beta was fun. No fun people should be euthanized or at the very least sterilized
>>585669986I'm thinking ret down to champion of the light, then holy down to holy shock.
>>585670310thats epic, ty
>>585670921>in vanilla paladin's only viable role is healer despite having 3 specs>after the rework in forever it's only viable role is now dpsWhat the fuck is going on
>>585670852I guess you have to justify the sunk cost somehow
>>585670310is it enough until you get your quest wand and later dungeon and finally raid wands?
>>585671180I guess you have to fill the black hole in your heart by shitposting on 4chan complaining about a game that you aren't interested in hoping that some day someone might care about you (but they won't)
>>585671180>y-you aren't having fun!!
>>585671153don't think too hard about it
>>585670358>>585670468>>585670514I've just scrolled the general, is this just a NE lovers general based off the amount of image of NE booty
i am playing a horde female sky elf resto druid on the pvp server
>>585671367yes, this general is full of human men
>>585670538I like your idea but the same already struggles enough with 2 factions.
first time i heard someone irl talking to me about wow forever. this shit gonan be huge god damn>t drunk at bar came to 4chins took me like fucking 3 mins to do this fucking captcha fuck man
kino is backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGNHYJNdn2k
>>585669243The craziest thing about arcane is that spellfire is now predicted to be more meta than frostfire
>>585671384congratulations on your transition
>>585671447Having 3 factions would stop the butthurt over 1 side being stronger than the other and engagements would be more chaotic FFAs which would be more fun over tilting.
>comfy wow FRESH>IRL friends joining me to play all night>comfy apocalyptic election news It’s gonna get COMFY
>>585671153Holy rework is really bad and the prot one didn't go far enough/they bashed any viability of its damage into the fucking ground. It'd be funny if ret ended up being shit as well since all we have to go on are pre 30 runs and sims. The prot rework is really funny as well since "in the spirit of classic" it has straight up garbage like taunt being tied to judgement but also conc or ret aura aren't allowed to be good because god forbid a class has something weird that's good about it.
>>585671694game being released after nov 3rd when the chuds get absolutely ass blasted is gonna be even better.world went to shit after 2019 classic now it'll heal wowowaft is the harbinger of doom and hope
You think we'll get the rooster mount someday?
>>585671761careful what you wish for
>Warrior is a shit experience in leveling and wpvp>Paladin is neutered>Enh shaman is bad unless you get lucky with wf procI want to play melee but it seems all options are kind of jank.
>>585671502Same, during my wedding last year a decent chunk of my highschool friends that played TBC together showed up and none of them gave a fuck about classic or TBC anniversary. Two of them asked me about Forever. Too bad they aren't my friends anymore because they going Alliance now.
>>585671761Won't have much time to mine salt unfortunately
>>585671761I’m cuddly but orange nigger needs to go down.
>>585671502I bought 4chan Premium because I'm an alcoholic and that captcha is near impossible to figure out
>>585671869Prot warrior leveling is genuinely really good and ret bonking is basically what you want out of enh.
>>585671761>the world will heal when we play a 20-year-old game for the 3rd time
The scroll comprehension thing mages get is some wonderful class fantasy and I hope there's some really wacky ones you can find
reddit blizzjeets trying to gaslight people saying forever is bigger than classic 2019, saying forever is bringing the classic and retail communities together and this is going to be permanent
>>585671673It'd be the 2 stronger sides ganging up on the weakest, just like it is in GW2's 3 faction pvp mode.
>>585671929I bought 3 years pass only 2 weeks before they raised prices, my life's proudest achievement
>>585671869>Warrior is a shit experience in levelingThis is outdated info.You can solo elites and kill mob packs as prot war.
>>585671972QRD?
>>585672006You still get stomped in wpvp though
>>585671929on my dekstop it's fine but oin the goddamn phone it's impossible holy fuck
>>585671975Maybe that is actually what is happening
>>585657930>That after 30 days in the beta, they couldn't hammer out and fix racials so everyone could have a viable combat racial to activate that was balanced and passives that made coherent senseHot take, I don't think combat racials should be a thing, they should purely have flavor and RP purposes. If racials make or break the game about you, you don't care about playing your race beyond how they influence your e-peen.
I gotta resist playing TBC. I wouldn't want to burn myself out.Just 10 more days
>>585671957Millennials WILL save the world
>>585672041There's new scroll drops that have to be deciphered by mages, and they have quirky effects like increase dick size, transmute male to female, etc.
>>585671975Forever is potential game. There maybe a version down the line (talking about years here) where they get formula right. But i doubt they are agile enough as a company to do that. I cant wait for Forever re-release where they actually release a game in a state thats good before everyone got bored due to how sluggish they are with the content and fixes.
>>585672074>match these 18 shapes of slightly different variationIt's genuinely impossible while drinking
>>585671975Because Forever launch will be bigger than Classic launch.
>>585672116>There maybe a version down the line (talking about years here) where they get formula right.>2 more weeks>2 more months>2 more years>2 more expansions>2 more decades
>>585672116>Classic Era>Classic SoD>Classic Anniversary>Classic Forever>Then a Classic Forever re-releaseShits getting retarded
>>585671645logo looks like aislop
>>585672209>same timeline as China'a fallDoes that mean China has to fall for WoW to be good?
>>585672298Well it would solve the gold seller problem.
It's obvious the best way to handle this game moving forward is to just do Hearthstone style "years" where you do a year of Burning Crusade themed content, new races, class, specs, zones, etc, but don't raise the level cap, make it accessible, don't make it hard for people to come back and jump in whenever they want, etc, but just have themed content releases yearly. So year 1 is just classic themed, year 2 is Burning Crusade, year 3 is Wrath, but just no new levels, no new continents, no flying, no group finder, etc. You could do it infinitely.
>>585672069I think you might just be perpetuating problems in your head in order to focus on negativity. Warrior was always bad in wpvp until they could just one shot someone, make them panic and lose composure when they nearly one shot them, or had a pocket healer.
Do I take 5 days to level alts instead of rushing to 60 just for the 16 legacy points?
>>585672075The blizzjeets probably should have waited till the other gaslighting thread about forever feeling so fresh and hoping it stays permanent fell off the top of the sub when they didn't get any organic engagement for their lies
>>585672372If you want
>>585672372no?
>>585672236>you had to be thereyou forgot to add the first week of the Forever beta which will go down as the best time in the games career, people are bragging about it already
>>585672372Why do you need 16 legacy points?10 is enough for the early talent perk.
>>585672451Which surprises me why they made so many unnecessary changes.
>>585672371Ok, I will probably just end up leveling all 3 anyway at some point, guess I'll stop thinking about it.
>>585672512why do you need the early talent perk?
>>585671975The amount of hype surrounding WoW Forever is honestly starting to feel unreal.I’m hearing people talk about it everywhere, even in real life, which is something I’ve barely experienced with WoW before.Strangely enough, I don’t think I’ve fully processed just how big this launch is going to be. I’m excited, but cautiously optimistic, almost like I’m mentally unprepared for the sheer scale of what’s coming.The more people I hear talking about it, the more I realize this might genuinely eclipse the 2019 Classic launch. And that’s saying something, because 2019 was absolutely massive.There’s this growing feeling that we’re about to experience something special. Not just another WoW launch, but potentially one of those rare gaming moments where everyone seems to be playing the same game at the same time.I genuinely think WoW Forever is going to be something unlike anything we’ve experienced before.
>devs don't want people to farm leveling dungeons>add gear sets with special effects like the WC snake druid oneI fail to see the logic here.
>>585672603why do you wanna know??
>>585672604thanks chat gptthen 2 weeks later people will realize it's just retail 2 and leave.
>>585672512>early talent perk.Do people really care about this anyway, unless you're twinking, why spend 100s of hours to just be a little bit further ahead in player power whilst levelling
>>585672352>no new levels, no new continents, no flying, no group finder,Don't forget no new gear, no new quests, no story updates, no reason to care.
>>585672628Acting stupid again I see.
>>585672604Thanks Jeetgpt, for taking time away from spamming nigger peepees on /gif/
>>585672603>i need to level 5 alts so I can level a 6th alt 1% fasterfucking genius
>>585672668>>585672408BASEDBASED AND REDPILLEDBASED
>>585671972Now imagine an actual full game of cool shit like that and that was SoD.Forever sucks.
>>585672628For transmog collection. Horizontal progression.
I just redeemed another maccas code for 2 weeks game time, do blizz have some sort of deal with them?
>>585672372You know we'll be able to get more than 16 legacy points on live right?
I personally don't like the game so any hype and excitement around it is inorganic and likely a psyop marketing campaign by Blizzard
>>585672604>we’re about to experience something special
>>585672804eventually we will, there will be a 16 point cap at launch
>>585672804You can't use more than 16 on the trees though, extra points just unlock tabards and shit
>>585672837I haven't played WoW in over 10 years I just come here to laugh at you brainwashed retards.
>>585672898And mounts that are account wide and will save you around 100 gold.
>>585672672Nta but getting your capstone talents 5 levels early is a huge power boost for most classes. However it purely benefits alts, by the time you've gotten 10 legacy points your main will be 60
>remove skelves>add undead elves to the horde side>add high elves to the alliance side>horde paladins get their own starter quests>Similarly, "fallen" elves get some exclusive of their own, they get a few quests in the starter zone to try and remember who they were, possibly a soldier or or a laboror who was attacked in Arthas's invasion>other quests at higher levels like 20>They're given a quest to stealthy intentionally sabotage reunions between forsaken of Lordaeron and live humans of the alliance.>make the alliance believe it is a horde trap>make the forsaken think the humans have abandoned them as monsters (they are) all in an effort to keep the bulk of the forsaken army>at higher level, like 40, you are given further quests: run interference between the blood elves of quel'thalas and the high elves of the alliance to stop the blood elves from rejoining the high elves>at 60, you get a quest: infiltrate quel'thalas and kidnap blood elves to be later raised as fallen elves to bolster the ranks of sylvanas's army>before death, the blood elves are given a serum to alter their minds and give them amnesiamake the forsaken evil again.
>>585672085That's not a hot take, that's a retail take.
>>585673012Elves in the Horde will never be cool
>>585672672didn't you hear, wowf is all about leveling, why do you even want to ever get to 60? you silly goose
>>585672847Experiencing another failure is also a special feeling. Especially if Asha forced them to shit out Forever.
>>585673012The easiest, most sense-making thing would've just been to do a civil war between Blood Elves & High Elves & given Blood Elves to Horde & High Elves to Alliance and literally nobody would've complained. Then just say, IDK, Dark Ranger Elves are a possible customization for Blood Elves & elves with gold eyes are a customization for High Elves.
>>585673012dark rangers are weak to my BWC tho
>>585672991>he didnt get the collectors edition with beta access and TWO free mountspoor, broke, ngmi, fake, gay, etc
>>585673083Retail has even stronger and more meta-defining racials than vanilla, you actually have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and retail to you just means "things I don't like"
>>585673126>why do you even want to ever get to 60?because you get a legacy point for it.
how is the new BG system going to work exactly? you queue with 1 friend and suddenly you're going up against full premades?
>>585673327It said groups of 2-3 are grouped with the solos and then bigger groups are put against other premades.
>>585672991the cost has been moved to mount training, not the mounts.it saves you nothing.
>>585673246And you're giving him the exact same energy, but let's be real. It's amazing how many people that hate RPG mechanics and systems, as light as they are, somehow infest the game and want to play classic plus(ish) which was supposed to dip into rpg flavor for races and classes and just want overly homogenized bullshit.
>>585673359epic mounts still cost like 160g
>>585673012was p obvious that they were going to do highelves starting in elwynn (aggrend stated in the convo where he says "metzen told us to think bigger" that high elves would start in northshire abbey) which leads you to believe the horde side would have been darkfallen (tie in to WC3 forsaken kingdom) and that would have been so much fucking cooler than skelves. unless they really hit it out the park with the skelf/MC connection metzen really dropped the ball on this one. we prob won't get darkfallen/helves for 2 years since adding elves right after elves wouldn't make as much money. ogres and draenei for next races prob
>>585673242Yeah but the spectral bear isn't gay like the PRIDEcrawler and looks better than the bear that's meant to be used with the dwarven transmog armor.
>>585673364I'm literally arguing for RPG mechanics, you just don't like that I'm focusing on the RP part of it, not the G part. I want people to pick their race because they actually like that race and want to get in character, not because it gives 2% crit chance
>>585673424160g if you're exalted with the race for the vendor discount
>>585657930its almost like they merely own the ip and didnt actually make the game
Do we know if the old unarmored Vanilla epic mounts are in the game, or did they just skip right to the armored mount swap out?
>>585673625>Skelves actually let you see the mounts on the vendor before you've purchased riding unlike every other raceliterally pay2win.
>>585673108Yeah, but the chinese audience craves belf models. That's why we have skelves.>>585673205My beef with that is that blood elves and high elves are the same race with political differences. same with skelves. Undead and living elves are as fundamentally different as the forsaken and humans. >>585673226that just all elves tho.>>585673501a true shame.
>>585673520you also get the bear mount you fat [slur redacted] looks way better than the owlcat
>>585673731Armored versions are by the mount trainers, so expect them to have armor.
>>585673792>the chinese audienceIt's everyone, hell it's even a lot of people here, they're just upset they didn't literally get BE. BE have been 70% of the Horde player population for 20 years
>>585673862Shame, would have liked to get hold of the Ivory Raptor for once, but it's not a huge problem.
the best thing about the honey moon phase ending a month after launch is there will be way less spam in these threads
Lock easy to get into groups? Tempted.
>>585672985see u on nov 3
>>585671502I was at my sister's wedding for the final day of the beta. Every single groomsmen was talking about Forever with me. Same with some of the husbands of the bridesmaids. I even heard one of the bridesmaids complaining about the time one of them was spending on the beta. They all want to go Horde, but my best friend wants to go Alliance for some reason even though we were always Horde mains. I'm so conflicted, because I know my friend enough that he probably wont even hit 60 before the raid is out, but I want to play with him. Stupid ass faction lock on pvp fucking me right now.
>paying for mountscouldn't be me
>>585674026Based and redpilled.Can't wait for the retards here to be disappointed.
>>585674034no there's like 80 thousand of them
>>585674034i'd take a lock if they were at the dungeon ready to summon
>>585673246Yeah the game where people roll dwarves for stoneform and crit damage. Strong and meta defining compared to every alliance priest being dwarf for fear ward or every warrior being human or orc for weapon skill because otherwise you're wearing a pair of level 44 gloves that cost a couple thousand for the entirety of the game.Retail is the path of forced balance at the cost of everything else, the exact same shit that you're spouting. You want neutered garbage because you want to have your cake and eat it too. You should be able to pick whatever race, whatever class, whatever gear (transmog) and perform all the same. Your solution to conflict between minmaxing and other desires is to remove the conflict altogether by just making everything the same.You are what turns the game into garbage.
>>585673994Given it's forever, and there's a mount collection tab, I'd expect them to reintroduce them in some form or another, either as rare drops, questlines, or who knows what. There were a few datamined mount models new to forever such as a lavender kodo and some nightsaber that didn't have armor, so it's possible the old epic mounts will be up for grabs too somehow.
>>585673246>go to wowhead>look up retail racialsWhat the actual fuck, they just gave Void Elves immunity to spell pushback permenantly as a racial?
>>585674056YOU SAW THAT POST ON THE TOP OF THE REDDIT CLASSIC WOW SUB TOO ABOUT THE GIRLFRIEND DUMPING HIM AS WELLDONT TELL ME YOU MADE THAT POST, IT'S REAL TO ME DAMNIT
I'm so excited to play Forever Classic in 2041 bros!
>>585674068>paying to be mountedThat's you instead.
>>585674230Pushback is mostly meaningless in Retail anyway. So it's not that big of a deal.
>>585674246>but we're going to change this, and this, and this, and this, and this and
>>585674246Most people here won't be alive by then.
>>585674230Spell pushback isn't anywhere near as severe on retail and yet that racial is still busted enough to make void elves a top tier pick for casters in pvp.
how about classic forever but its just vanilla again on the 2yr timeline
>>585674167I don't care about performance, as I said here >>585673579. I'm not a parser, I don't raid, I'm not a M+ mazie, I care about people caring about the world and not just seeing it as a mechanical rat race which is the ENTIRE problem with retail. If it was up to me all servers would have enforced RP rules
Racials should be expanded to an entire parallel talent tree and every class should have race-locked spells like priest.
>>585674392Why not?
>>585674392If only, anon, if only...
>>585674487Suicide, drug and obesity related deaths.
>>585674460I'd agree if the dev team were competent, but this is the team that couldn't come up with proper buffs/nerfs to weapon/damage stats so they just gave everyone blanket crit and called it a day
>>585674546It's actually going to be the AI apocalypse before that though.
>blast wave is available!>not actually availableDon't they bother proof-reading their AI slop?
>>585674230Some of the retail racials are nuts. Stoneform just fully clears your debuff bar.
Are you going for the classic unique player first and last name or are you going full meta mememaxing name like 'Total Dummy'
>>585674241i have no idea what you're talking about but you should go back
>>585674068>you will never know the love of a woman as a horsewith tube cock and ostrich egg nuts
>>585674610The scattershot approach is the one that can most mitigate bad design. More options = more likely that there's something worth using and more things that can be tweaked in the event that something's too good.
>>585674702No I'm going to name my rogue Kenshiro after hearing they're going to give sub spec a FotNS ability. The problem being Kenshiro doesn't have a last name, I checked. No to the one person who googles, it's not Kasumi, that's his uncle.
>>585674702meta mememaxing
>>585674702I'm going with a food based name that does [flavor] [noun]. I expect people to call me [flavor]. or perhaps fatass
>>585674663your legacy boints?
>>585673792do chinese even care about classic? if they wanted to play they'd just make a pserver instead of paying money. they have no copyright enforcement over there.
Removing the Jiggle Physics is the only change I know of that Blizzard has decided discussions about it need to be censored and ban on sight. All threads about it on Reddit and the official World of Warcraft forums are now locked and banned. If you bring it up Blizzard does an IP trace and deletes your Battle Net account and all of your purchases. All streamers have been informed if they draw attention to it they will be blacklisted from future Blizzcons and Blizzard events. And yet no one seems to care that Jiggle Physics have been removed from the game. It's even in the title now: World of Warcraft (Big Bouncy Boobies Removed) Forever.Seems like the audience for the game is just women, trannies, homosexuals, and ass obsessed brownoids. Guess there's no Straight White Men left to stand up for big bouncy fem human hooters and soft round kaldorei knockers.
>>585674693doesn't give immunity thoughis that every debuff type? i guess it's everything but unlabelled types.
>>585674952Chinks are playing their own classic+ version now called titan reforged.
no retail races is proof that they don't want classic minus to intrude on retail and that it will always be a second class citizen.
>>585674952They have Titan Reforged to play instead which is the experimental chinese server Blizz has where you level to 80 super fast and ALL raids from Vanilla, TBC, and Wrath cycle each week on which ones are currently set to 80 as well as giving a bunch of new abilities to classes
>>585674991Even without immunity it's still one of the strongest racials in retail. The entire m+ meta is to run dwarf or night elf.
the launch patch is going to be so huge that everyone plans will change>>58567495260% of classic players are chinese
oh man Brick Layer would be a great name
>>585675052It will be funny once Forever patches will be without game breaking bugs unlike retail patches.
>>585674702I'll be rolling on RP-PvE with the daybreak company bros, so I'll be forced to choose unique and setting appropriate names. Otherwise i'd probably do something stupid 15 year old me would've done like name my character Cross Roads, run them to the crossroads, and constantly yell out "Help I'm being attacked!" until I inevitably got force name changed
>>585675052uh yeah sure that's the reason :)
>>585674693this racial is great with discolored potions
>>585675169guessing you didn't play the beta
>>585674702Little bit of column A little bit of column B. I like trying to go for light meme/shitpost names that you might not initially question or even applied a bit to the class/race at hand.
>>585674952
>>585675119dwarf doesn't look that high up
>>585675127what the hell is a Lrick Bayer
>>585675281brickma balls
>>585673626Yeah because the og devs totally balanced them and they had what years?
>Blizzard heard complaints from Rogues about Slice & Dice being the most boring upkeep buff in the game so in retail they changed it work basically passively>Blizzard in Forever made the new Assassination capstone another Slice & Dice upkeep buff
>>585675275A lot of modern players hate actual fantasy tropes and classes except elves, you can even see that here with the disdain potential alliance shaman players seem to have for them somewhat often. Seeing the sheer disdain dwarves seem to get is a bit odd at times. Which is funny, because if anything, the warcraft dwarves are too humanlike and need to be a bit more extreme on dwarf autism.
>>585675443Still not as retarded as making the ret paladin capstone fucking seal twisting
>>585675443Spirit of classic
>>585675443They could have just given us Envenom which refreshes S&D. THEY COULD HAVE SO EASILY FIXED THIS PROBLEM
>>585674447That's not going to happen. You're attempting to change how some people think in general. They will always seek out what's optimal, so you'd have to make the racials completely useless, because there will always be the "well in this specific situation this is the best" even if it is find treasures. When racials lack impact, they also lack flavor. This is what dilutes races and makes them more boring. Something like wotf basically defines undead. This can also have the effect of making some races even less popular. When you take their situationally good racial away, even the minmaxers stop playing it, and everyone moves onto playing an elf or a human. Your choices need to matter, and races are a part of that. There are people conflicted about whether they should roll race x or y, and that's a good thing. Solving this for the players by making their choice meaningless just turns the game into slop.
>making my own rp-pvp guild>discord up and boosted>plagiarized the tome of knowledge write ups from warhammer online (which can't be found online anymore) to create a bunch of guild "lore">was going to roll war and be the main tank for the guild>realized I should play a fun popular class that could have trouble finding a raid spot (hunter) since my raid spot is guaranteedive already laid the groundwork to have nothing but fun and success in forever.
>>585675443>gameplay difference between combat and assassination is:>Asssassination uses Mutilate less often than Combat uses Sinister Strike and uses Venom over Evisceration.>...woah!
>>585675678I think you would still use eviscerate in between refreshing venom and s&d
>>585675742not enough combo points
>>585675672hunter GM sounds unheard of
>>585675443Hot take, the Wotlk-Cata transitional time frame was the best a lot of classes were and should have been the basis for a lot of them.
>>585675443>Blizzard did X in retail>so they did the opposite in foreverok?
>>585675742You won't because energy doesn't generate fast enough for combo point generation that you have time to use eviscerate between as their duration isn't long enough. Assassination Rogues need more than just mutilate as a change, and no venom is not good, it is objectively the poor man's envenom
Is every class in retail really just a builder spender archetype now?
>>585675443the lead dev obviously hates rogues and i find it very funnyit's also making me want to roll even that much more
>>585674706I accept your concession
>>585675443Anything they did to Rogue in retail should be avoided at all costs
>>585675889I fucking hated holy power, not saying wotlk faceroll was ideal but the direction soured me so much I abandoned my main back then.
>>585675990No that was a a MoP to Legion thing, they dialed that back around BfA and completely dropped it for some classes in SL
I remember the day FromBehind was allowed as a name. I even remember where I was in-game and IRL when I first saw the original 'FromBehind' rogue.
>>585676301sorry boss times change
>>585675808inevitably someone outplays them and then they lose authority amongst the smooth brained masses.
>>585676062I certainly don't mean for all classes, and I definitely also don't mean the general homogenization that happened around that time, but I feel a lot of specs were on to something and did things well despite the losses some took. I really liked things like Survival, Sub Rogue, Affliction, Frost Mage, 1h fury and Feral around that general time frame. I know a LOT of people hated some of the resource changes though, had a friend quit the game with what they did to Paladin.
since no one will play elem shaman thats is going to make gearing shockadins quite a bit easier
>>585675431the og devs gave us a masterpiece. modern blizzard is like ed sheeran trying to rewrite beethoven's the 5th
it's hilarious this exists
>>585676035>spoilerIt's a bit of a gamble but playing as the raped could pay off if it ever gets buffed.
>>585676720is chain lightning the most raped spell
>>585676759This does nothing for the poor saps in redridge when the rogue is level 60 where it actually matters.
>>585675528im so glad a retarded streamer doesnt dictate how my favorite spec plays
>>585676035I've already decided I'm going to main rogue. We're already raped, we have nowhere to go but up!
>>585676759stealth should have a duration too
>>585676886so it seemsfire nova toothey just gutted the little aoe shamans hadbut they gave boomkins great aoe by removing CD from hurricane
>>585676057Is Combat/Outlaw still just, tripling down on the RNG fishing for 2-3 buffs like it did in legion? That really is one of the dumbest things they've even done, I'm sure there were a ton of different ways to make a pirate themed spec work.
Guys, reminder there could be Cutes playing and learning the game so be nice.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjCgXVmRO4s
>>585676759>typical rogue gankers are overleveled or outnumbering, so their victims are still helpless>guts rogue's ability to fight even level players, so they can only get kills in the open world by gankingMasterful game design right there.
>>585675678>and uses venom over eviscerateDid you miss the news where evi deals more damage than venom, so the 31 ass capstone isn't even worth picking up?
>>585677045>there are more women playing on ally than hordethis explains why they tend to be more dogshit at pvp
>>585677119oh yeah, the only reason to pick it up if you need nature damage for some reason
Can someone post more night elf slopI'm pretty close to deciding on female ne warrior
>>585676889>>585677098assblasted tranniesu can just play pve u know..
Does anyone even like playing Rogue in PVE? At least PVP Rogue gets to use their whole kit.
I get why restedxp makes people so buttmad, and I'm never going to use it, but how does Blizz not go after it when it's a paid mod?
>>585677119is there a single capstone ability that outdamages the abilities they're supposed to replace?
>>585677238
>>585677260maybe blizzard made it. try making your own and watch it get banned.
>>585677260Because they sponsor streamers who then promote the game for free.
>>585677260the mod is free, there are many mods like it, they are all freethen there are paid guides, there are many of them and have been for 20 years, those are allowedthe mod read the guide, not breaking any tos
ALEXENSUAL WON...HE FCUKING WON...
>>585677260https://www.gamedeveloper.com/game-platforms/-i-wow-i-guide-blocking-suit-settled-out-of-courtThis is why, because back in 2006 they did actually go after someone for making leveling guides and got bitchsmacked and had to settle out of court. Which means now there's a precedent stopping them from doing it again. As for it being a paid addon, it's not, the addon is free, the GUIDE you can get from the addon you pay for. Which sounds like a loophole, and it is, but western legal theory is built on loopholes, autistically following the letter of the law is unironically a china thing.
>>585677278Are there capstones that replace something other than venom and incin?
Anybody else losing hype for release?
how do I find a guild without trannys and couples in it?
>>585677461wrack is less dps than shadowboltincinerate is less dps than shadowbolt
>>585671975I've never heard of anyone talking about a classic release or wow in general IRL in decades, now even my normalfag coworkers randomly bring it up. This shit is bringing back all the uncs that quit at some point as well as new normalfags.
>>585677495how do i find a trans guild?
>>585677495wait 2 weeks after the launch and pick the guild with the most amount of lvl60s
>>585656943When the streamer quits your faction will lose 50% of its population and you will be forever cucked in BGs, world pvp, finding a reliable raid group, etc.
>>585677495Have you considered making your own?>>585677548Have you considered making your own?
>>585677528I forgot that wrack exists. I think they forgot to give the spell additional ranks because it only has rank 1 at 40.
How hard people like this will rape the game?
>>585677456>western legal theory is built on loopholesNo, western legal theory is based on precedent, and even then that only applies to common law, not continental civil law
>>585677260I wonder why
>>585677653was pendulum always bop? i thought that was like an uber rare 0.00001% boe twink item
>>585677693See >>585677456, while it's clear they don't want to go after RXP, even if they wanted to they would just get sued again and lose
>>585677693show me where i can pay for an addon
How the hell do you use the sleeping bag btw? I never got mine in the beta since it was a slog as alliance, but everytime I tried to use someone else's it never did anything.
>>585677653>blaming the playerbase instead of devsyou have an addiction that is clouding your judgement
>>585677743You're right, it used to be a really rare BoE, they made it into an item you create now with 2 other drops like Sul'thraze
>>585677814You have to be in their party
>>585677779There would be nothing to sue them for if they simply just blocked the use of rxp through their own code. People can sell the guides as a pdf you follow on an alternate monitor if they are really so weak.
>>585677531
>>585677456>>585677779Wasn't an addon. Not even related. This is from an era where most of the playerbase considered things like Thottbot(WoWhead) to be cheating
>>585677831surely the pattern is sellable though?
>>585677814You just set the item down and /sleep in it. Has to be your own bag you can't use someone else's as far as I know.>slog for allianceHorde has to go to fucking Loch Modan. That is an insane slog for them.
>>585677948No you can use it even if it's someone else's, or at least I was able to in the beta with a party member.
>>585677786https://shop.restedxp.com/guides/
>>585677876>There would be nothing to sue them for if they simply just blocked the use of rxp through their own code.Precedent, RXP's attourneys could point to the C&Ds that were put on Kopp back in the day and say that Blizzard is effectively doing the same thing under a different method.>>585677916>This is from an era whereLiterally irrelevant in law, you can argue using cases that were argued in court 300 years ago to support yours.
>>585677814it's easier than horde honestly
>>585677693when did aggrend show himself playing?
>>585677994>Literally irrelevant in lawNot shit, I mentioned it to give context of WHY blizzard went after them in the first place. The fact that it isn't even an addon makes this entire event irrelevant.
>>585678037Looking at the UI this must have been from classic
>>585677693>>585678037>>585678118It's from SoD and everybody used this screenshot for proof as to why he kept buffing shaman to the point where shaman tank spec as a top 3 DPS spec for half of SoD's life and why they were literally unkillable in pvp
>>585678037He used to stream his HC character.
>>585677923I'd imagine one of the sub weapons/components just has a use effect on it since it seems to be an incomplete datamining, or the other reagent is just something they tried to keep hidden. https://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=1294234/aspects-of-doom
>>585677693What is stopping anyone from just renaming restedxp then uploading it to curseforge for free?
>>585678348Basically nothing which is why it's so easy to pirate
>>585677991not an addon
>>585677994Nope they really couldn't do shit or else weakauras and dbm and omnicc and other addons that midnight broke could have done the same thing
>>585678219If aggrend is able to insert tanking into enhance without fucking over the dps portion why can't he do the same for paladin with holy and shockadin.
>>585678464blame Esfand
>>585678454None of those addons broke any rules, they followed every rule to a T and the reason they were broken was because quite frankly, their existence is why we have an endless arms race between the raid devs and WA and thus makes it so mythic raid is what it is
>>585678464>If aggrend is able to insert tanking into enhance without fucking over the dps portionTop DPS for a large portion of SOD was enhance DPS and Tank shaman was regularly 2nd or 3rd in top DPS. It was literally unkillable in pvp because they could instantly heal to full with a 0 mana instant cast heal with no CD and most classes would die from just attacking their lightning. He never made it "work" he fucking killed the game
>>585659812Dad gamers have very limited time and parental responsibilities. Im going to assure you have all the time in the world so no>>585659449Any class. Just dont make any alts
>>585678464>why can't he do the same for paladin with holy and shockadinDuring SoD Aggrend literally forgot holy paladin exists for all phases until level 60, like 80% of the rune slots were dead for holy healing.He only cares about ret and whatever he plays at the time (it was Shaman/Druid in SoD)
>>585678563who cares
>>585678464SoD had runes that supplemented 70% of talent functions. Forever does not have runes. And there is no tank shaman in forever, its a spellpower meme that requires specific shitty gear and max consumes so you can tank maybe up to sfk. No shamans will be tanking BRD
>>585678641I mean he's in charge of forever so its a sneak peak into the future of this game as well
Two recruit a friend codes for launch!KWBF-45BV-TWFPQ-4TGD-JRL8J8JR-TF8X-KGHPD-SDSK-VSDVI doubt it will stop bots much but the last 4 digits of the first code are the first 4 digits of 2nd code and vise versa
https://youtube.com/shorts/aYBLLUJbFXgRetail- status?
aggrend is fat
>>585678548Yes and restedxp breaks the journey of classic leveling, so there is a reason to block the addon from functioning.
>>585678712>Yes and restedxp breaks the journey of classic levelingBut it doesn't fundamentally change how the devs program the leveling experience which is an important distinction. WA did actually affect how fights were designed, because they were designed around the assumption that you have WA.
Troll warlock is looking extremely stupid tbqh and I don't know why no one is talking about it. Spirit is plentiful on cloth gear without giving up sp or stam/int. And lock has 50% damage reduction at all times and 2 vw sacs. They will just regen hp without even having to drain.
>>585678807warlock gets like 0 hp regen from spirit
>>585678712people are just going to read a guide on their second monitor or phonebanning the addon does nothing
>>585678681Yoinked the second one. Thanks anon.
>>585678841what kind of meme is this? spirit doesnt change depending on what class you are and warriors dont have any "spirit gives you more hp" talent that allowed a troll to afk a higher level mob slapping him for 20 minutes
>>585678971wrong, warrior gets like 15x more than warlockonly warrior and rogue gets anything. all mana users gets fucking nothing.
>>585678841Yeah there are hidden scaling values for different classes. Warrior gets absolutely busted health regen from spirit so thats where troll regen shines
>>585677689French Civil law is better anyway. Under French law's standards for slander and libel (and interestingly Japan operates on the same principle), it doesn't actually matter if what you said is true, what ultimately matters is the intent. You can tell the complete truth about what someone did, but if your intent was to damage their reputation, they can still sue you. This results in a system where your former employers can't say much about you when you go looking for a new job because if they say, "oh yeah he was an asshole to other employees and stole from the company constantly", they are harming your economic future and thus is grounds to sue, so instead everyone just says "yeah he worked here before" and leave it at that meaning it's much easier to leave your job and go elsewhere.
>>585678971That clip has the warrior wearing spirit gear and several consumables that also give hp5
>>585678880Yes it does or else the addon wouldn't exist in the first place. Convenience and ease of use it what makes most of it's users use it. Not many people would want to alt tab or constantly look at a different screen for instructions when they can simply follow an arrow. Which is why Zygor and Joana guides were only used by a select number of autists and why restedxp is known to even the normiesphere.
>>585678712how would they do that? all it has to do is display an arrow and read a fileare you gonna stop addons from reading data files or displaying arrows?
>>585678704Transmog is one of the few things that always needs to be ported over in any variation of classic+.
the problem with wow in all its versions has always been the lack of waifus and cute female characters to admire
>>585679072Yeah why not? Questie is already a basic functionality of the game
>>585679068how is it relevant at all how many people use it?isint even worse if only few people use it?
>>585679229in game questie sucks dick
>>585679229no its notIm so fucking tired of these addon complaining retards not having a single idea about the subject
>>585679229Ingame version doesn't show where you can pick up new quests and also isn't nearly as accurate in pointing out spawn locations
restedxp is the spirit of the classic wow
I just really wish they made all quests visible on a global map. At least quests within the area where you are. Or some quest that reveals all the quests on the map, or within a city or something like that.
>>585679383that would be good
>>585679383have u heard of questie
>>585660050
>>585679045That sounds stupid. Like a politician or person of power could just sue you for whistle blowing because it damaged their reputation.
>>585679382its just like having a friend on your side helping you do questsnothing op about that
>>585679482Policitians are exempt from this because they're public figures who ran for the position of being a public figure, they signed up for the scrutiny.
>>585674026/wowcg/ died so this piece of shit general could get spammed by jeets defending paid addons
>>585679608wowcg was dead way before forever was announced and no one is stopping you from making another general so you can talk about how much you hate every other version of the game than vanilla and post your epic naxx speedruns 6 years in
>>585679670no, i shant be buying your shitty ai addon. sorry thirdies.
>>585679765Yeah, instead you're going to waste your time posting in a general for a game you're not playing.
>>585679608seethe harder classicshart not our fault nobody posts in your dead general
>>585679879low izzat response tbqh
>>585679608TBC anni fucking sucks cock, I'm not sorry that shit instantly died when Forever got announced.
>she can't afford restedxp
>>585679942>>585680038sorry sukdeep, im just not buying it is all
>>585680150ok but they're not gonna ban it either ;)
lf guild rp pvp horde
why you guys rushing to 60?is it really that important? should I actually buy rested xp?
>>585680351yesyesyes
>>585680150>brownoid doesn't even know how to pirateThe third world has fallen.
lf horde furry erp-pvp guild
>>585680351>why you guys rushing to 60?cause thats what i find fun>is it really that important?no>should I actually buy rested xp?no, there are cracked versions uploaded
>>585680435>erp-pvp
How bad were TBC and TBC ani?
>>585680351so i can gank shit out of dadgamers
>>585680351So I can spam distract and watch dad gamers walk off cliffs and boats.
>>585680351there is something extremely relaxing about being level 40 when everyone else is level 25 and being one of 3 people in a zonenot using a guide because I am physically incapable of following instructions
>>585680351>why you guys rushing to 60?You just know this fag is going to "EnJoY ThE JoUrNeY" and then wonder why he can't get into any raids when he hits 60 in 3 months.
>>585680351I dont want to rush 60 but want to be ahead of the curve enough that there are people I can group with but also far along enough where I can avoid all the mouth breathers.
>>585680351Mainly to gank lowbies.It's the best part of playing classic wow.
>>585680531>tbc anni>"we are going to release phases faster this time">they don't>best item in the game is a 5% drop from a boss in phase 1 (my guild saw one of these)>all raids are post nerf so dungeons are significantly harder than any raid>even the classic raids are more of a challenge
>>585678805>But it doesn't fundamentally change how the devs program the leveling experienceDid you miss the 80% dungeon XP nerf?
>>585680695nta but pugs and casual guilds exist.
>>585680351As a PvPChad, my entire raison detre is to engage in "Open World PvP" to make the game unplayable for my counterparts that have some how managed to play less than me.
>>585680535>>585680594>>585680750>>585681046Yeah I'm going PvE, thanks for going mask off.
>>585681097Never had a mask on, even during covid.
>>585661553and if you're a millenial and not a dad then it's time to kys
the two biggest gaming disappointments in the near future are going to be GTA 6 (lacks any soul, no wonder if all the old devs left) and Forever. Forever will follow the same fate as SoD, just with bigger numbers in the beginning. We all know this is true, nublizz is too retarded and slow and even stubborn (see their opinions on certain UI / toggle options and vanilla topics - you are selling Vanilla+ for fucks sake) to steer the ship away from the coming iceberg, which is in plain view.Literally everyone who ever touched wow is talking about forever, the sobering up will be worse than coming down from hard drugs
>>585680531TBC classic was kind of a mess with servers dying and faction balance. Rest of the game was as it was in 2007 with all the good and bad.In TBC anni they made the bizarre decision to release all raids in it's post nerf state which kind of ruined the main appeal of TBC.
This constant restedxp shilling in these threads is real organic
>>585680351sadly,you have to rush to 60 since every streamer who's whole job is to play the game 24/7 will always be ahead of you if you didn't take time off work.>but why does this matter?get prepared to be ganked by some streamer and his army of no life followers then as he makes content off of ruining your leveling experience.>but I don't play pvp.Ah well I dunno. it probably affects raids somehow. I was always a pvper
>>585679289>>585679340>>585679361Imagine needing to be handheld this bad and calling anyone else stupid, lmao.
>>585681269At this point I think just filtering it would be ideal with how blatantly forced it's gotten and how many brainlets keep taking the bait.
>>585681360it's funny how basic addons make people butthurti get it, you are bad and lazybut... im still gonna use them
>>585681360i'm going to install every single addon just to annoy you
>>585681269it has to be a meme.I actually bought a guide a while back and it's the same shit as some of the other efficient leveling guides out there.
>>585681478Thats why the shilling is required, good things don't require marketing
Here it is for free you fucking brownoids.https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/wow-guides-templates/4792923-zygor-classic-retail-other-addons-updated.htmlNow shut the fuck up about buying it.
Will the chosen one return?
>>585681613but zygor doesnt tell you when to die and spirit res to get back to town faster for turning in quest!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIyQbDPXlOAits up
>zoomies larping like they don't need a guide in anything.Hey young fags. Fun fact!Every single game out there used to come with an instruction manual or had a strategy guide for sale.So stop pretending "larping" I should say that you're an uber pro gamer.
>>585681696He can't, just look at his mana
>>585681732If you read the post it has RestedXP as well on top of all the paid weakauras sold by the ratgoblins.
>>585681696When you eat my whole ass.
>>585681613Sorry moshey not clicking your virus
>solo Hogger in Forever no problem>go play SoD in this period of boredom>Get rekt by Hogger despite runes from lvl 1And people say Forever isn't babby tier lol
What are the odds of a future zone being queldanas/timeless isle tier fight clubbasically a place where you go to do quests but end up spending the whole day getting ganking and getting ganked
>>585681867????Didn't the devs state this outright? that forever is more fore dadgamers?
>virtue signaling about how i totally don't use a quest route addon
>>585681864That forum is older than you, kid.
>>585681613Guy gives it for free with download link and most of the people are there asking about where to download, how to use and arguing with him.Brings me back to the old days of forum retardation.
I want rested XP for free, I don't want zygor. Does anyone have the files?
>>585681867Hogger was never as difficult as people made him out to be, the difficulty came from being noobs at the game and aggroing more than you could handle by pulling him when he'd patrol
>>585681739Following the arrow reminds me more of all the recent live service games that make you log in every day to follow an exact list of things you have to do to keep up with all their time-based rewards and shit. This game is a lot more organic with its systems so that's also how I'll approach it.
>>585681974nice try gramps but mossad won't be logging my keys today
>>585682013yeah you can download them for free
>>585681696nah he is a lolcow now
>>585681994Yeah it's truly baffling how someone can make an account on that forum and not figure out how to install an addon without the jeware curseforge client.This thread isn't much better just look at this mong.>>585682013
I just need something to tell me where to go when I run out of quests in a certain zone and get lost and the best place for my level range.
>>585681974pvp wasnt even a thing when I was in college. in fact, im pretty sure you're the brat I left behind when I went "out to get smokes"
>>585682115yea exactly
>>585682078Mossad doesn't need to trick you into visiting shady websites to track what you do, they've had your cpu backdoored for the last 20 years
>>585682115Wont happen in forever, they've gave us enough quest to not have to grind mobs to level now, and breadcrumb quest to lead us from one hub to the next.
>>585681737i... i somehow always expected way more expertise and a systematic approach from people playing on hardcore servers but they are just as stupid as on pve servers
>>585657764Based, but I feel like its also "wasted time" now that forever is around the corner and hardcore is coming next year here too.
>>585682115every zone sends you to the next zone, just pick up all the quests buddyor have a map like this, but you really need the quests that lead you there or on often you will miss out on a quest chain
>>585682115A simple addon that shows zones level range should be enough.I think the leatrix addon has it.
>>585682110>>585682080I don't want zygor, and I want the files that WILL COME OUT for free. Do you retards have any actual input?>B-but retard zygor overlays restedxpI SAID NO ZYGOR
>>585682078Hope you only install addons manually.
>>585682329I hear you anon, and I take your observations on board. Could I interest you in Zygor?
>>585682329yeah, literally been on ownedcore for years
>>585682115crazy to think that people on aol dialup that grew up sniffing leaded gas fumes were able to figure this stuff out 20 years ago before youtube or google
I think increasing the quest density was a mistake.Now you can stay in zones longer and you don't explore the world.I leveled a nelf druid to 30 just by doing quests in darkshore, stonetalon and ashenvale.
>>585682329You're so braindead it's honestly insane.You obviously clicked on the link and couldn't see what was in front of you.
>>585682329my nigga i can find it easily with a google search
>>585682457Ashenvale has quests for alliance? I saw a graph that the entire zone only has like 10 new ones for both factions.
JUST FUCKING ENJOY THE GAME
>>585682364Im white I don't use addons
>>585657930>That after 30 days in the beta, they couldn't hammer out and fix racials so everyone could have a viable combat racial to activate that was balanced and passives that made coherent sensethey have never been able to do this
>>585682568NO NOT LIKE THAT
>>585682568ya just as soon as im done following the arrow
>>585682457Doing completely different zones on your alt might be nice though.
>>585682682you cant do that, you have to do everything on your first character!
>>585682364Why hasn't anyone vibecoded a clone of the curseforge app without the spying and ads?
>>585682568But I can't since it isn't out yet?
>>585681732Which addon tells me to kms? I will buy it right now
oh. you appear to have used a sub-optimal levelling route. you must be poor
Will fogever feature Grommash' Grill?
>>585682568>just enjoy the game while fighting with 5000 gamerdads over every questhehe
>>585682725you need the website and good luck getting every addon creator to upload their addon on your site
>>585682682where's the restedxp setting for that?
>>585682457Yeah, there's absolutely no reason to do any of the one-off quests or long chains now that take you to the other side of the world. Maybe you get a 2 spirit 2 stam green legs for your troubles lmao
>>585682725Addon makers get paid from hosting their addons on curseforge, you can code something to grab an addon from github but most aren't uploaded there.
>>585682772When did they start calling him Grommash instead of Grom and why? I know Grommash is his actual name and ONE time in WC3 Mannoroth calls him Grommash and that's it, but in the rerelease of Beyond the Dark Portal and in Reforged he only goes by Grommash now.
>>585682568I will once they add what I want
>>585682725WoW itself is Spyware bud, why do you think performance is so bad? It's keylogging and sending screenshots of your screen when you alt tab.
RestedXP keeps telling me to buy drink and food from the vendor and now my bags are half full of milk and mutton, what are they for?? HELP!!
>Raidwide buffsIs this the greatest change so far?No more shamans in fucking group for every raid.
>>585682805>>585682865There's nothing stopping you from just pulling the addons off curseforge
>>585682815You're joking but it unironically does that.
>>585682875Grom is too generic of a word to copyright. Yes that is actually the reason.
>>585682927cooking leveling
>>585682875Same time they stopped calling Malf Furion and the same time they renamed all the warhammer tanks into a different thing. It happened between RoC and TFT.
>>585682725just ask claude code to manage your addons folder directly
>>585681696This is the type of dude to call Asmon a grifter and in the same breath tell you he was the leader of an important team at Blizzard for 7 years (he was the poojeet outsource division's janitor)
>>585682938Ignoring the thousand quests, profession rework, new dungeons and new zonesYeah
>>585682905metzen gets to see all my draenei and skelf futa when I tab out?
>>585682938Two shamans and paladins per raid.The rest will be filled with PVMPER specs ONLY.
>>585682938Ignoring the dungeon xp nerf, gdkp ban, and no world buffsYeah
>>585683027I mean that's probably true but at the same time those 2 things don't really have anything to do with each other. A grifter is someone who says things they don't actually believe for the sake of a financial incentive, which is not the same thing as a shill which is simply someone paid to say things. or a liar which is someone that...lies.
they should've made raids personal loot so i dont need to pretend to like my guild
>>585682905linux btw :^)also there's literally a setting that changes the fps when you alt-tab, tardchama
>>585683152You need at least 3 paladins to cover all the buffs and auras.
>soda's mom was "high for 2 days"I never understand this meme where people act like edibles are the craziest shit ever. Sure if you accidentally an edible (dont know how they all taste like shit) it can catch you off guard when you start feeling paranoid and weird. But as someone who has tried weed many times and tried many edibles I can eat a 200mg edible right now, not having smoked or ate any in over a year, and feel just fine and the high is gone after like 3-4 hours. I've never once "woken up still high" like larpers pretend they have or "felt like i couldnt use my legs" or anything like that. The worst thing that's ever happened to me "greening out" is feeling really anxious and then dry heaving.
Nobody cares junkie streamercattle
>>585683076>>585683158these are fine but everyone would fine a way to 60 regardless, this doesn't make endgame raids cancer
>>585683249DUDE
>>585683243No you don't, salvation is a seperate buff now.
>>585683249>dude weed>streamer bullshitTake a shower, hit the weights, get a clue.
>>585683223just dontI hide guild chat the second I join a raid guildpeople will whisper me when I am needed
>>585683317>>585683317>>585683317New thread
>>585683249is soda's mom a druggie?
>>585683215He literally made his entire career lying about his voice and his employment, so yes he is a grifter
This has to be the most scammed player base of all time. Time and time again paying for things you don't even need. This fucking game should be free to play already but you niggers just love to funnel your money to the billion dollar company, and now to some retarded addons. Jesus man this is fucked.
>>585683337hunters need might, kings and wisdom
>>585683347based
>>585683385But is he saying things he doesn't actually believe as a key component of that? That's the difference between a grifter and a con artist
>>585683427cat druids too since they convert mana to energy
>>585683341The irony is the person you're quoting not only smokes weed but shills his own strain
>>585683401This is goycattle central
>>585683341>post doesnt end in 92Shame
i wish engineers could make literally anything before like 100-150 before you get your first gogglesit feels so boring to just make 50 screws and modulators
>>585683558and enhance shamans and ret paladins
>>585683401I like the sub model since it is a basic filter for turdies like you.
>>585683401>This has to be the most scammed player base of all time.Can't be when Scamcom(Capcom) still exist.
>>585683567how is that ironic?
>>585684120It's like RAAAAAIIIAAAAAAAIIN
>>585683249erm what does this have to do with forever? why are you blogposting about being a crackhead in a wow forever general? go inject your doobie weeds under a bridge and die, or get help
>>585684547lulcatchy but annoying song
Who am I kidding? I'm going warrior.
>>585678427By that logic I'm not paying for the "addon" that allows me to bot and teleport throughout the map, I only bought the separate instructions on how to use it.
>>585656930fat bitch love
>>585687762botting is against the tos, but not because you pay for itand it's not an addonso I fail to see the relevance
