Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesName reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkkqbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | DEAD DISCORD LINK PLS FIX THIS FUNHAVERBRO<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QEFCzxf<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVB<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | Discordless>Previous>>585656930
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>>585683395OGRES
>Name reserve tomorrow>Still don't know whether I'm going RPPVP or PVPFuckkk RPPVP is going to be better for the first 6 months/year but has a serious risk of dying or having terrible faction balance.
>>585683441there will probably be transfersblizzard likes free money after all
should I buy restedxp or journey or both
so on a PvE server i can just kill all the quest givers in a town and theres nothing they can do about it?
Is Claude good for slopping addons? I just want to track some stuff for myself
>>585683441people from pvp server will keep rp-pvp alive>cant make the opposite faction, make it on rp-pvp>the faction you wanted to roll on pvp is restricted, make it on rp-pvp
>>585683543Yeah or at least I ported an addon and asked it to add some features to it and it got them right every time, kinda crazy
Someone make an app that I can give urls to curseforge to check if your addon is up to date and automatically download the addons if there are updates
>>585683543use forever auras>>585683536attacking npc:s tags you for pvp
>>585683597wowup
I don't need a levelling guideI need to follow my themeTauren ShamanWhich means doing quest for tauren rep and solving shaman problems like dealing whatever fuck zandalari or other bad trolls and nigger dwarfs are doing and healing the landi have no clue atm about the progression curve for all of that but i am not buying a cuck guide tofollow an arrow 24/7
>>585683493>buyThey're free.
locks eating good
>>585683738Still not touching it until they fix that garbage soulshard shit
Reminder if you don't buy the $30 elf pack and reserve your faction spot tomorrow you WON'T be playing Ally on launch>better racials>better aesthetic zones and cities>dalaran>streamers pickOnly reason horde stayed competitive or slightly higher on PvP servers in classic is because they had better pvp racials.
>>585683464IIRC Blizzard didn't let me transfer off Zandalar Tribe in Classic
>>585683736Tipsout and kargoz seem like good honest guys I don't mind throwing them a few bucks
>>585683917I lived through the era of humans having every man for himself and double raid trinkets. I can handle whatever "crazy shit" people think they see in alliance now. I'll be fine.
I'm looking forward to gooning to Emi playing
>>585684162same
>>585683917>streamers pickGood. I don't follow or interact with any streamers.>better racialsDon't care for minmax, get me the fuck out of the minmax crowd.
I wish we had a little more discussion and less angry autists announcing to everyone how they hate wow and blizzard and are totally not going to play before throwing a tantrum about indians or jews.
>>585683917Blizzard could drop a hot, steamy deuce notes tomorrow and completely fuck up whatever you min/maxing cunts plan to do.
>>585684297be the change you want to see rather than adding even more complaining
>>585683917>>dalaranWhen Garrosh bashes Thrall's skull in during fogever timeline we will sack it again
>>585683984so i can just enter a new zone to escape a ganker, good to know
>>585683585Thanks anon>>585683625Can it track stuff like "Have I siphoned the soul of this player at least once?" (I know of Shard Source, I want to extend it a bit with this and do similar stuff)
alchemy seems kinda cool for rogues with the throwable potionsdo they eat up a GCD? I wonder if I could throw a pot for my cheap shot opener
what race/class are the cute trannies going
>>585683543yes
Are they really going live with the game from the beta state?
>>585684627trick question. there's no such thing
>>585684659yea man
>>585684659Despite what fatgrend claims on his streamer podcast, sharding when moving between zones will remain for the lifetime of forever
>>585683441i said this before, but its a win/win situation to play RP PvP because if its successful it will be the best realm, and if it actually dies then they will merge it to the pvp realm. Faction balance wont be an issue with megaserver technology.
This is how quest reward quality should be ranked>dungeon main quest reward>long quest chain with possible multi zone travel rewards>other dungeon quest rewards/one-off elite quest rewards>regular quest rewards
Should I use an auction house addon?Hows the forever interface compared to something like auctioneer?
>>585683738imagine playing a dps shaman or rogue
>old time guild wants go alliance PVP>have to pay for name reservation or risk getting faction locked on launch>can't even play that much so I just know that contested zones will be a nightmare by the time I get thereit's over
>>585684961The layout is fine, but auctionator at least lets you scan it so you see AH prices show up on the tooltip when you mouse over something, so you know if it's better to vendor/disenchant it or throw it up on the AH.
>>585685010>or risk getting faction locked on launchyou cant get locked out, you just need to spam until someone else made a horde character it's 50/50 ish
>>585684803unless you're on RP realms, as they removed sharding on RP realms as it disrupts rp events
>>585685043>scan it so you see AH pricesOh right, I totally forgot about this feature, thanks!
>>585684803Didn't they move the sharding zone like 5 meters away from orgimmar and people thought they fixed it?
>>585685086and your source for this?
>>585685065I wish you good luck with that on launch.
>>585685260AI that copied what was true in 2019
>>585685273worked fine when the beta launched.
>>585684881>Faction balance wont be an issue with megaserver technology.They could enforce balanced shards and put the overflow from the majority faction into 100% horde/ally shards. Which should discourage people from playing the majority faction, making it self-balancing. But it seems a bit radical.
>>585683917@grok is this true?
>>585684937You VILL take the shitty +2 stam +6 spirit green ring that required you to do two dungeons and an hard fight and you VILL be happy.
>>585684297you lost.
>>585683917Good thing I want to play a male prot war tauren.
>it will feature more than 1,000 new questsinstead of killing 24 boars you will have to kill 18 wolves
Can they fix male belf/velf/skelf scoliosis already?
>>585685260theres a few more places its mentioned too like wowhead, so theres a good chance that after launch sharding is removed on the RP realms
>>585685313>BLIZZ PLS FIX I NEVER SEE ANY <opposite faction> WHILE OUT IN THE WORLD!>It works just fine on my shardThe outcry would be enormous if they did this.
>>585685486and that's a good thing. here is why.
>>585685510Ok so I'm just rolling on an rp realm then?
>>585685539>ai please summarize this 47 minute video
>>585685523Yeah, that's why I doubt it would happen, but still, that would be a solution
The 30 buck elf pack didn't have beta access right? So it's not technically cucked to get it now?
>>585685614But it did though.
>>585685642Thought you had to fork 60 bucks for beta access thoughbeitverbeit
>>585684972i WILL play nelf female rogue and nothing will discourage me
>>585685510>source>some random tweet from before Forever was even in development
>>585685602its still a gamble as this was a long time ago, but if any realm gets sharding removed it would be the RP realms first
>>585685642Reddit says you're lying
I am planning to main a mage on alliance, and while my duo leveling partner is offline I will be leveling an alliance warriorI wonder about my next alt though, I am torn between an alliance and horde paladin, I am thinking about horde one because I want to collect horde mounts too eventually
>>585685614yeah only the 60 or 80 bucks packs had beta access
Are you done /prepping/ for launch yet?
>>585685510>>585685681its from a long time ago, im not claiming its 100% im saying that if any realm has a chance it would be the RP ones first
Do I level up as a prot, then switch to fury? Is that gonna be alright?
>>585685695yeah because it will have maybe 10% of the population of the PVE server at max
>>585685845i bought a lot of weed
my guild will be a CHRHTCI+ friendly safespace (Cis Hetero Racist Homophobe Transphobe Chud Incel)
>>585685845>death = 20 burpee/squat jumps>bro why you still in the graveyard /votekick
>>585685845Don't forget to dust the computer, unless that's what fan set up implies too
>>585685857just stay prot
>>585685857No, your character will get deleted when you switch from prot to fury.
>>585685852That's a completely different system from the sharding in Forever and only works on servers that have smaller populations than one big mega server
>>585685845All this just to quit in 2 weeks
>>585685845>30sec plank on quest turn-inThat's a lot of time planking when you can easily turn in like 5 quests in one go
>>585683493neither, use the quest journal like a normal person
>>585685968I've never done full classic prog through everything, I'm not confident enough as a tank because I have no idea what to do
>>585685845You should probably pick up your dildos instead of leaving them lying around anon.
>>585686281its not that difficult and you have other group members to help you will learn more than enough from the leveling dungeons to handle the end game ones and raids are simpler to tank than 5 mans
>>585685845
>>585685845I hate women so much its unreal
>>585685845ive got plenty of cans and im a neet im good to go
>>585686543""Hey guys first time doing this dungeon, can you lead the way for me?">"go">.....>.....>.....>"omg tank noob retard kick pls"I've played these games before...
If Rp-Pve dies, will it merge with Pve or Rp-Pvp?
>>585685845i'm just going to stumble in hard as a rock, let jesus christ drive me, and beat the game
>>585686626no one kicks the tank
>>585685857do what you said but the complete opposite
>>585686626>"omg tank noob retard kick pls"average EU party
>>585686630You go through a tribunal where the community judges you based on how often and good your RP is. If you are dedicated to the RP you will go to the other RP server. If you are deemed lacking, to PvE.
>>585686630not going to die, not going to merge2019 classic had 3 RP-PVE servers at launch, this is bigger than that
forever = wod waiting room
>>585686626I joined the beta late as a tank and whenever I said I'm new to a dung the others pointed the way with the waypoint system.Dalaran is a maze for firstcomers.
>>585686667I do. I always bully tanks because bullying builds character.If they can make it to 60 with my though love they can handle raids just fine.
>>585685845Flight path = yogaWaiting for dungeon group to arrive = yoga
>>585686773>Dalaran is a maze for firstcomers.It was the main city for TWO expansions. Most players are gonna know the layout even if it's the first time in the dungeon.
>>585686807This. If tanks cant handle me cumming on their face every time they fuck up then they don't deserve to be tanks.
>>585686281just range pull mobs and dont aggro extra shit, youll be fine. If someone complains just boot them
forever needs gdkp
>>585683738me
I see people saying to skip Wrack because it's worse than shadowbolt. Why hasn't Blizzard fixed this over the beta?
>>585685614Im still going to point and spit on you for playing skelves.
>>585686871Mine's basically the same, except>Flight path = fap with non dominant arm>Waiting for dungeon group to arrive = fap with dominant arm
>>585687014no one could use wrack
>>585686973>gdkpgiant draenei kid pussyagree
>>585685845Thanks, I cringed.
>>585687042>numbers arern't real>numbers are lying to me>i trust blizzdevslollmao
>>585687151Why the fuck would they bother to tune the numbers on Wrack during the beta when nobody could use it? The biggest difference between beta and live are going to be the scaling numbers. In every new upcoming version of WoW the scaling is always the dead last thing they adjust before launch.
>>585683917and horde will still be locked 5 min after servers open because horde players are a cult and will play their epic mudhut faction even if blizzard gave +50% damage racial to every alliance race
>>585687310You are delusional as fuck if you think Horde is ever getting locked. Everyone is playing Alliance. Even on the beta the Alliance raped the Horde in numbers which was like this BEFORE the Alliance racial buffs and even with the tournament happening on Horde side. But now we are going into launch with better Alliance racials, streamers all on Alliance, and every tryhard classic guild on Alliance. The amount of people projected to roll Ally is so huge that the devs may have to emergency buff Horde racials shortly after name registration just to help unfuck the factions numbers.
>>585683917delusional, like 75% of pvp population is going horde
>>585686881Yeah and not everyone who will play Forever played retail so religiously to memorize it.Not to mention you won't know the boss location.
>>585687595retard
>>585685510>one layer for 20000 peopleOkay so you wont be able to go anything in open world, enjoy
>>585687597Why the fuck would pvp tryhards roll on the factions with way worse racials? They always follow the racials. The moment retail introduced cross-faction everyone switch over to Alliance for better racials.
>>585687595thats also including the fact horde is majorly skewed because of the pvp tournament was horde only
>>585687595wasnt asmon on alliance?he is going PVE so its going to switch to majority horde
>>585687597Not with current racials lmao!
>>585687670>gets called out on his dumbass statement>uh uh... ummm.... ur a retard!good one
>>585687701are these pvp tryhards in room with us now?Theres no arena, BG premades are dead because you are only queueing against premades
bear charge being on a 15s cooldown and bash being a 5s stun on a 30s cooldown is whack
>r*ddit is dooming that Forever has significantly less interest than 2019 classic hadIs it true? Speaking for myself, in 2019 there was absolutely noone I knew personally that gave a fuck about classic. My retail friends looked at me like I had 3 heads ("why would anyone want to replay content they already did 15 years ago"), and irl friends didn't give a fuck to begin with. This time many are interested to try it at launch.
alliance racials are strong in pvp, as it should be
>>585686973Time to check out the gook servers where you belong.
>>585687820How does arena not being in the game change anything? Everyone serious about pvp is rolling Alliance.
>>585687895Yeah horde needs a handicap otherwise it will dominate pvp again.
>>585687816retard lol
I'm going to do a lot of tryhard pvp at hillsbrad fields and nesingwary's camp
>>585685845By the time you reach level 14 you've planked for 40 minutesgod help you sir
>>585683493imagine not just getting the craked premium verison
Elemental shaman cope status?Am I just going to have to get used to the idea of using shitty fucking garbage lava burst?
My only worry about rolling Alliance for pvp is it may end up being a trap. While a lot of sweats will be on the pvp server the BG queues are also shared between ALL rulesets. So for every 1 sweatlord there are a 1000 olympus zoomers are rpfags that will feed in your BG and you can't simply make a full premade to escape this anymore.
the browns who talk about speed leveling here literally never in their life reached max level in wow
What warcraft characters are canonically futas (other than jaina and sylana)?
>>585683536Attacking npcs flags you for pvp, but the other players on pve servers are all little pussies so they won't flag themselves to attack you, unless they have a guaranteed win.
Nothing is going to change about racials.Fatrend said they won't want people to have fomo over their choice after name reservation so the dogshit current state is going to be like this..forever.
>>585687892not even close compared to 2019
>>585688128You should put cannon in your mouth and shoot it
>>585688226Until they introduce new races with blatantly OP new racials that you'll be forced to reroll.
>>585688226they will announce the changes when the reservation goes live
>>585688226they will nerf alliance racials bigly
>>585688128Gnolls
>he rolled alliance
>>585688327Alliance racials don't even need nerfed they just need to unfuck the Horde ones. There was no reason for them to obliterate touch of the grave off the face of the planet like that.
>Google trends says Forever is about 40% as popular as Classicis it joever?
Horde is the pvp race. No idea what the fuck you guys are smoking.>but Muh racial!Doesn't matter. Every normie chooses things based on the class/race fantasy.A big meathead orc swinging his axe into a gnomes skull and a dickhead zombie ambushing a sorceress before eating her corpse cant be beat.People have always chosen whatever looks and feels cool to them. Only faggots think otherwise.
>>585688417forever hasnt even launched yet, forever beta was way bigger than classic one
>>585688417based retard
I'll rape every horde sissy as a humanCHAD
>This is an extremely fixable issue btw, simply give no rewards for losing.Are redditors really this dumb? Do they not realize that if someone regularly is experiences losses and gains nothing from those losses they will just stop playing? WoWF would be dead in less than a month if you let these midwits make decisions about the game.
>>585688432>Horde is the pvp racelmaoOkay now log onto retail and try to take a warmode crate as Horde and see what happens. Times change.
>>585688081I can say without a shadow of a doubt streamer parasocials actively bring down the skill level of whatever they touch. Raw numbers might offset skill before sharding kicks in, but it's definitely going to have an effect on battlegrounds. That said, If you can just avoid doing BGs when the streamer does. Which will be when their viewers try to get in with them. You should be mostly fine as they flock elsewhere begging for invites to the streamer layer. I don't think it'll be as bad as you think unless the streamer is actually doing BGs and all the randoms not doing premades queue up at once trying to get in with them. Other than that I feel like streamer guilds tend to group up in BGs thinking they're going to do well, so they should hopefully be isolated to premade groups half the time.
>>585688495Sounds gay. I´m in.
>>585688389if racials didnt exist i would roll hordetell greenfield to nerf humans and gnomes and dwarves and nelves
>>58568841740% of the hype without being sponsored by Pfizer is pretty good.
>>585688417ngl i think doing the extended beta with so many eyes on it kind of blew the load a little bit like killed the hype yknow what i mean gave people time to process the shitty blizzard decisions whereas with classic it was like bam here you go and released with full on hype mode lasting into the release
>>585688506bosses should give loot from wipes
>>585688128Apart from all night elves and draenei, I like to think some succubi are also futas. And some of the hot bitches in scholomance.
>>585688417Not looking good for humans if this is how your average meatsack interprets data.
>>585688557anon classic came out in 2019lockdowns didn't start until march 2020
What are you guys planning for your rp-pvp character?For me, I'll be larping as a scarlet crusade human sorceress and I'll join guilds that are actually racist towards horde members.
>>585688587Bosses are competitive content.
>>585688558sup oni?
>>585688745human rogue who lusts over horde womenhe will save them from death and then sap and molest them
>>585683317rogues need some sort of party buff aura>mischievous intentions-increases the movement speed of all party members by 5% within 30 meters of rogue
>>585688661>he doesn't knowSorry but I won't explain the truth to a masklet like you, vaxmaxxer knew about the plague back in summer 2019 and were already boostmogging coofbois like you.
>>585688226They need to make big balance changes in the first week for the fun of it and tell everyone who complains to eat shit to set people's expectations or forever is doomed.
>>585685845>2026>defragment
vghhhhh i need some news!!! DROP A BLUE POST SNEEDGERS IM HECKIN BORED
>>585685845I really hope you're not defragmenting an SSD unless you have a 5tb HDD over there full of squirrel porn.
>>585688745olympus is on pve unfortunately
Reminder that In 9 days when Forever launches, Ironforge will continue to be the greatest city in Azeroth.
>>585688417>that high interest BEFORE launch compared to classiclooks like forever is triple the interest of classic
>>585688954>unless you have a 5tb HDD over there full of squirrel porn.Whitemane porn, actually.
>>585688954>you have a 5tb HDD over there full of squirrel pornwho doesn't?
>>585688745>actually racist towards horde members.I hope there's guilds actually like this. The ones ive joined on retail are so cucked. I got kicked out of one for hating on orcs too hard even though my characters whole backstory was that his father died in the 3rd war.The fucks the point of factions if everyone's a pussy about it in rp>inb4 what actually got you kicked tho.I wasn't even going full 1488. My character after 'dared' to insinuate that orcs have no honor and the faggot guild lead paladin started a whole argument on how maybe us, the people in lore defending our azeroth from actual green skinned aliens went too hard with the internment camps and prison labor in the past
>>585685614>Fuck yeah, I'm proud to be a cuckLmao I just read the full thing this is ridiculous
>>585688745(and secretly on the side she visits orgrimmar every night)
>>585688954Actually it's dolphin porn
>>585688461you couldn't just get into the classic beta if you wanted to
>>585683738Dwarf shaman bros, it wasn't supposed to be like this...We were to ditch the dress, not to don it!
>>585688417Forever isn't going to come close to the success of 2019 Classic. Just ain't gonna happen. Forget that it's Aggrend, the man responsible for the colossal clown show blunder that was SoD, at the helm, forget the egregious retail minus changes, disastrous layering/sharding, just the plethora of retarded anti-classic changes that the team of nublizz retards has implemented. Ultimately people were locked inside their homes during a global pandemic so it was really the idea circumstances for the best iteration of the best mmo of all time to come out. Blizz really lucked outThe only thing that can match classic is classic itself.
>>585688745gonna roll a deranged forsaken rogue and all I'll do after hitting max level is stalk lowbies. Appear out at night and /wave to them. If they run i chase and kill. If they stand still, I'll walk up and sniff their feet before leaving them alone.I'll keep doing this until I get banned.
niggers acting like alliance doesn't always have preferable races for pvp. feeling like some of you dont actually PLAY wow.
You guys use zoomer vernacular ironically, right?Right??
>>585686707>i'm such le doomer... normies just dont get the PAIN, man...
Join <FUN HAVERS> at launchALLIANCE NA **PVE**>literal who gm (no cliques or power trips)>only rule is you must have fun or else>will raid with fucking whatever / whenever>ill be running morning weekend raidshttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w>yfw having fun with fun havers
>>585683917In actual point of fact, after TBC gave Horde paladins it was PVE Horde guilds who have completely dominated world first raid boss kills for 20 years. In Vanilla paladins were such a huge difference maker that alliance guilds were playing on easy mode.ESPECIALLY because of blessing of salvation which literally should read: all your raid DPS is increased by 10%.
>PVELOL!
>>585689697Nta. They don't by definition.
1h long blessings are harming the social aspect of forever.Downgrade them to 3m.
Starfire is such a shit spell8 fucking talent points dedicated to just this one spell and it's still barely worth casting and makes you oom in 30 seconds flat
>>585689914PVErs cant stop winning
Is anyone in here actually planning on playing the blue elf race?
i believe in peace and love and kindness and doing good for my fellow manthats why i play pve
>>585690053Yeah the druid forms look cool.
Holy paladin being a worse healer in PVE and a DPS/healing hybrid meant more for PVP is the kind of SOVL forever needs to embrace and not give in to the whinersFuck everything being "different but equal", thats what destroyed retail
>>585690053Only if they get alliance shaman
>>585690053druid form is the only possible reason
>don't have to waste money on blue elves to avoid fomo because I'm not playing the sperg ruleset and can make whatever I want whenever I want>literally 0.0% chance of my name being taken because I am using an actual lore-friendly namefeels good man
>>585689991No.Only warriors are allowed to rebuff every 3 minutes due to being autistic screechers.
>>585685845>>585688954Imagine believing defragmenting HDDs is a thing in 2026 and you're not running games on a mother board attached NVMe m2 add.
>>585690053Eventually down the line my ally hunter will probably be a skyborne, belf model looks pretty good on hunter
>>585690053a lot of alli mages and druids
>>585690207>fagadins will literally brigade the forum and bleed from their vaginas so hard it nukes their discord if they don't get their waybut sure it's the warriors that are autistic
>>585689148I mean, you want to RP as a racist, because you are racist.He wants to RP as a cucky shitlib faggot, because he is one.It is what it is.
>>585690053skyborne mage is the canon main character of wow forever
If I roll on Hardcore can I port my character over to any other ruleset if I die?
>>585690053I would if they made shaman on alliance side possible.But since they aren't, I have no need to buy it at all.
>>585690360you can only go to Normal
>>585690360yap
>>585690053ally mage and druid skelfs are giga meta
>>585690053If I roll a mage as an alt I'll probably roll Skelf and just pretend I'm a high elf.
>>585688128Chromie
>>585690360yes
>>585690370honestly if they got shaman they would be broken if the mana racial stays the same, they would have so much regen at all times
>>585688128all female orcs are futas
>>585690053Yes but I won't use the blue skin tone
>>585690053I'm sure a bunch of alliance trannies will.
>>585690557this is true
>>585690053yes skelf shammy but I'm probably going to lose interest if ele is really shit and then I'll reroll human hunter
>>585690509>alliance gets double health and mana regen>horde gets 10% movespeed that doesn't even stack with 8% from boot enchant
>People on reddit arguing all combat racials should be removed from the game because they can't handle a 1% dps differenceI swear to god these people should not be playing a fucking RPGIf Blizzard doesn't straight up ignore the community this game is doomed.
I want to play prot warrior but don't want to tank
>>585690298>but sure it's the warriors that are autisticThe incredibly rare runeblade was nerfed in a single week because wowyers cried, pissed, and shitted everywhere.The diamond flask however never got nerfed, an item every wowyers can get.
>>585690557this is false
>>585690674What are you afraid ofI want to play a DPS warrior and I will happily tank every dungeon while I level and farm BiS
>>585690665>actual issue with racials is pvp utility and how some races have way better than others>retards all act like the issue is from ai sims showing 1 race dong 0.1% more pve dps than others
>>585690684o shit actually i think that link expires to can you use this https://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD
Troll warrior... do I dare embrace the meme?
>>585690765I have never tanked and am scared
>>585688745im going to be a human priest but ive never roleplayed before, do I just go around acting like a christian camp counselor?
>>585690848if you start with RFC/HOT it's giga easy, you will get the ideaalso use enemy nameplates
>>585690298Warrior was, is, and will forever be the out of shape NFL watching dad power fantasy class.Always played by retards, except the 1% guild leader competent PVE Chads who only play it because losing your main tank kills your guild.
>>585690806>>585683317Sure! Fixed again for future OP's: >Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkkqbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QEFCzxf<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVB<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | Discordless
>lock was my og class>know that it will be almost as bad as rogue or hunter if I roll thatI'm torn bros
>>585690871So fucking retarded, I hope they figure out something.
>>585690919Of course I use nameplates I always did. Don't understand who doesn't really, nameplates are aesthetically pleasing and it feels good seeing the bar get depleted
>>585690871https://files.catbox.moe/dqebwb.mp3
PvE is the minigame so you can gear up for the real game which is WPvP
>>585690871Wish we had that feature IRL
>>585685845imagine corpse camping this guy as he screeches himself into a heart attack doing squats
>>585691023Yes but shitters don't want to admit it.
>>585691009Sounds like you'll be fine
>>585690848Be brave AnonWarrior tanking dungeons was the most fun I had in the Forever beta - way more fun than DPS and didn't have a single bad group.>>585690794No one gives a shit about pvp, racials have always been imbalanced in pvp and Forever doesn't even have rated bg's/arena
>>585691101He sounds like a PvEchad
>>585690665At least 20% of the playerbase defines their self worth via parsing. It's a sad thing to see. Getting that 99 parse won't make your life better.
any addon that tell me what reputation a zone gives?
>>585690871They need to extend the boundaries to the siteline. Or this zone to the outskirts of the cityFuck, you might as well just join the capital city to the beginner zone
>>585690871Damn bro, imagine smelling so bad that everybody on your server cast vanish the second you come around all at once, even the non rogues!
>everybody will roll prot war for the good gameplay while leveling>mfw they switch to fury and realize how shit it plays
>>585691023Wpvp has even less content than duels.
>>585691191What do you mean? Because you gain specific rep depending on what quests you do or mobs you kill. It's not exactly tied to an entire zone.
>>585690871they're using green screen technology to fake how lively the game is
>>5856900533% haste for that sweet fury generation amarite fellow sweaty fucking disgusting retards?????
>>585690871I've seen clips of this but when I played the beta this never happened
>>585687595>>585683917You are unfathomably retarded.
>>585691002Never stopped Roguechads before. Worst class since 2004.
>>585691137Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.
Look at this shit8 fucking points invested into starfire talents just for it to do the exact same dps as wrath but with ten times the mana costincredible
>>585691379Uhh yeah that's what I wanted to do
>>585691189Honestly, based on the items we've seen so far I imagine they are gonna add way more busted shit than the racials we have now.Parsers will have way more things to cry about once they hit 60>>585691232Fury is sick atm - you have plenty of rage with the talents and it's actually viable to level with for once.
i can't choose which healer to play between priest or druid and im going insane
>>585690848everyone wants to make friends with tanks so you will have good time
>name reservation is in the middle of a work dayBLIZZARD WHATS THE POINTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
>>585691449good
>>585691503priests will be rarer because skyborne cant be them
>>585691503Do a 360 and play prot pala instead
>>585691536>tfw it's at 6 PM hereNothing personal burgers
>>585691265Want to know what rep a quest gives
Who is running nifelheim. Sounds kino discord always attracts tranny erpers
>>585691189i can live with blue. i had an orange parse once on a single boss and felt nothing. it’s just a matter of getting lucky that week, and the rest of the raids not filling their pants. so fucking stupid
someone start a chud guild
>>585691538Fuck you dude. Just fuck you.
>>585691449>what are spell power coefficients
>dungeon healing is fun>raid healing is boringAnyone else feel this way?
>>585691734>chud guildYou'll get banned.
>>585691536Wait until you find out what time forever launches.
Why the fuck can't you see how you died in Azeroth Survivors? No combat log or anything. Like I was doing literally just fine. Sitting at 23 minutes on a good endless run. I'm shitting out damage, taking very little damage, and then all of a sudden I just get 100-0'd and have no fucking clue what got me or how I could have avoided it. I wasn't even near a mob nor did I stand in a telegraph. I was just running towards the next lair elite guy and died in a single frame.This has happened consistently and it's so fucking annoying.
>prot is very good>fury is very goodcan they make arms not shit for once. it’s entire gimmick being good at pvp doesn’t work when they give it talents for slam, and random hunter pets it’s capstone talent
>>585691843Because it's an ai slop amalgam why would it be a good game.
>>585691843it's literally vibecoded, it could be absolutely nothing that killed you.
>>585690871WoW: Forever Alone
>>585691901The hunter pet mortal strike got massively nerfed
>>585691843welcome to the world of vibeslop
I fell for the name reservation meme.I caved. I buckled. I bought the gay blue elves just to reserve a few fucking names. Nigger company.
>>585691449>1k spellpower>wrath hits for 700 on a 1.5 second cast (466 dps)>starfire hits for 1400 on a 2.5 second cast (560 dps)>this gap will widen the more spellpower you getI did think they would be farther apart to be honest.
Pull your naxx logs or shut up the fuck up
>>585692006female satyrs owe me sex
Have we had the discussion for why they added blue elves instead of high elves yet?
>>585687124holy based
>>585689932The very definition of a snowflake, everyone has problems, only a NPC thinks otherwise
>SFK still has no Alliance quests>which means it'll give basically zero xp>nobody will be willing to join you for your meme class quest (Paladins)Lmao pallies are gonna be in shambles when they realize this
So I will maker a hunter dwarf and a waror skelf and a priester genome yeah
>>585692072Yes, we hate faggot Metzen now
>>585692072Because blizz is still mad that players think retail is dogshit. It's the devs way of spitting in our face.
>>585692072Yes but we can do it again. It helps to post something retarded or vitriolic to get the ball rolling.
>>585692072Because fuck you for not liking retail
>>585691451Wanted to do? that's what you SHOULD do, thats what im gonna do too
>>585692127Just get 4 other paladins who need the quest?
>>585691616russian or paki?
>>585691901Why don't you just see how it plays at 60 before complainingIt's currently simming like 5% under Fury for dps.Slam can potentially be sick>get Bloodthrill proc>Cast Intimidating Shout after DoT ticks>Slam into MS into Overpower to 1 shot a healer.
>>585684972imagine caring what other people play like some adolescent teenager
>>585683317game is so cooked, vanilla characters don't even blink
>>585692127only retards would do the sword quest, just keep levelling
>>585692127>doesn't think 5 paladins invading an evil fortress on a holy mission is kino as fuck
>>585692072Blizzard were being far too ambitious, they've as much admitted to thinking that Skyborne were a mistake. Bit late to fix that though, obviouslyI have no idea what the fuck they were thinking to initially approve this, though, but I have at least some hope the extreme backlash (and their acknowledgement of all this) will mean future updates will be less stupid
>>585691901They only need to buff rage generation and it'll be more competitive because it has more abilities to use than Fury. Once Fury can use WW and BT it has nothing else to spend on but dumping 30 rage into 300 damage from Heroic Strike. But Arms has Slam, Spearing Strike, and Overpower to press. As well as Sweeping when you have more targets. And way larger Deep Wounds, Sword spec, and WF procs from Hamstring if you have rage for an ability every GCD.They just need about 100% more rage gen baseline since the normalization is currently normalized to old rage level of being in lv60 greens without wbuffs.
>>585692203Both of those will be later than that
>>585692226Anon it's a JPG
>>585692185LegitThey can also fill every single role in the group. Warlocks also need SFK for a quest. WoW community dumb asf sometimes.
>>585690848if anyone gives you over the top bullshit they are douchebags and just boot them
>>585689893Horde has had such a long standing advantage in WoW, from the bg maps, racials, better flight paths, etc... that in retail there has been a massive gap with horde being more populated for over a decade.It's funny because everyone is crying about alliance racials right now, but if you just go back a little further, everyone was saying horde would again be the main faction to play.
>>585692127I think it's needed for legacy points, so everyone will need to do one clear at least. So try and do it early before everyone's done their one run per account.
>>585692127SFK is a pretty beloved dungeon so you might still have people wanting to run it. It's not like it's a stinker like Wailing Caverns
I think blizzard should enforce a global rule to force every non-english speaker to use english when communicating to other people in-game. If I see a single jaja in the trade chat again I'm going to freak the fuck out
Do you think it's the dumbest thing ever to make a goal to play every spec in the game from 1 (10) to 60?Is that complete overkill? ...But we're going to be here forever, are we not? So wouldn't a long term goal like this be based?
>>585691843It's ranged mobs that for whatever dumb fuck reason the creator decided needed to be in the game. The entire point of vsav clones is that you have to avoid being touched by the enemies, but ranged niggers that start spawning like crazy in endless just instagib you unless you are playing paladin (for bubble cheese bullshit) or mage (instakill them from 90yds away before they can even cast). Melee is impossible to endless.
>>585692415I think that thirdie accounts should be sent to their own containment server.
>>585692127>not doing SFK of all dungeons despite it's kinoLow t mindset
>>585692006>meme name faggotconversely>generic name faggot Either way, you're a moron and I hope you never make it to 60.
Dorfs are epic
>>5856920721. They wanted some new lore. I think it's ok, we will likely see more in Feralas/DM2. They want to go big with Quel'Thalas but weren't given the resources for launch
>look for people in LFG tool>invite three DPS>pretend like I'm trying to find the last role>do nothing and chill on YouTube or whateverAnyone else timewasting?
>>585692517Your negative outlook on all possibilities speaks volumes about how you feel inwardly.
>>585692440I'd say go for itjust make sure you properly space out the mage, warlock, hunter, rogue and warrior specs from one another otherwise you're going to burn yourself out leveling the same class 3 times in a row
>>585692440>ribs showing>yet there's fat flowing out the sides of her weird torso beltWhat the fuck is wrong with her, how is she both obese and anorexic in the same places?
>>585692270>I have no idea what the fuck they were thinkingI can explain it, and give other examples, but it'll be a block of textIn tldr, its an artist/creator's idea that if they do what is expected of them, that's phony and they're being a hack.Its got something to do with the now famous>subverting the expectationsMetzen basically told them that High elves are the phony, easy solution and not the ambitious thing to do, and if they want to be actual creators/visionaries they have to actually create. Then gave them the absolutely horrible direction for the faggot elves and they ran with it.
>>585692590dont be a douche and at least pass lead to someone else
>>585692605If you seriously think your speshul name is going to be taken with 2 names that you have to spend 60 dollars to reserve you're a retarded and bland human being. >BUT I NEED TO BE JOHN WARCRAFTOkay bud, hope your name gets sniped by someone with better internet and you wasted money for nothing.
>>585692368What is with that reddit post? Did he straight up read the numbers backwords?
>>585692072yep, and the result was to grow up
>>585692728You're a very bitter individual, aren't you.>hope your name gets sniped by someone with better internet and you wasted money for nothing.I'll just refund again like I did with the beta.
>>585692643>PicrelHoly based, but where is the cameltoe and the armpit?
>>585692643Thinking back, maybe high elves would have been too lazy. I like the idea of them not phoning it in, but yeah they kind of fucked it up. Plenty of better ideas than the electric blue OC elves
there should be no toggle for HD modelsSD only
>>585692757Retard
>>585692920HD is wasted development time
>>585692006I wanna sniff her floof
>>585692368>but if you just go back a little further, everyone was saying horde would again be the main faction to playBecause a racial balance patch happened and now Alliance is the clear winner. It does not matter how Horde was looking a week ago, a month ago, a year ago, or a decade ago. We are living in the now.
>>585692006female satyrs smells like wet dog
>>585692920The HD should be SD with a bit more geometry and upscaled textures along with the bonus hairstyles cause you can't have enough hairstyles.But none of that retail disney shit.
yea, it's looking like rp-pvp will once again be the best "server" like it was in 2019 classic
Do lil zoomlets actually not think about sex anymore? That's unbelievably grim.
Just a week away and I still haven’t decided on Disc Priest, Resto Druid, or rolling the dice and hope they buff Holy Paladin quickly
>>585692692Once someone gave me lead without saying anything and I was overwhelmed with what to do now. Took me some time until I realized it's me now who has to invite people.
>>585692972?????>reddit post says this site is showing Horde outnumber Alliance>check site>it literally says the oppositehttps://classicplus.io/
>>585693120world of warcraft forever?
>>585692127Paladins can heal, tank, and DPS. Just do full paladins parties.
>>585692728>BUT I NEED TO BE JOHN WARCRAFTWTF how did you know??
>>585693149Even if they buff holy pally the play style is fucking retarded and clunky. Even ret with seal twisting is retarded.Just go druid or priest. At least shadow priest and feral druid is fun to level until multispec
>>585692008Even at 1000 spell power it's a 20% increase in DPS; Unquestionably a better DPS ability.
>>585693120What do you mean by think about? I don't really think about sex apart from porn yeah. And also then it's not like I think about it actively, I'm only looking at the screen and goon.
>>585691734It’s called Olympus and we’re playing on PVE alliance.
pretty nice you can just have one point in this once you get VE
I hope Blizzard does a complete U-turn on the "no race balance changes after launch" and players who pick a $30 race just for the bonuses get stuck looking at their flat blue skyborne ass that they don't even want to play
>>585692270I'd bet they were just trying to dip into the retail player base to prop up a new project, only to find out Forever never needed any help in that regard and the elves actually turned out to be more of a point of contention when the true player demographic caught wind a classic+ was happening. Even though I think Metzen has clearly lost his touch elsewhere. Saying Metzen was at the core of things for their lore just kind of feels like a means to try and preemptively placate the more classic oriented people, which clearly didn't help as much as they hoped.
>9 days to go>still don't even know which ruleset to go (PvE, or RP-PvE to avoid politics / meme names / streamers / drama)Fuck bros... RP-PvE would be the easy pick if it wasn't for RP-PvP leeching most of its players, I fear it'll be too quiet now. I might regret it in 2 or 3 months.
>>585690871why does his game look so good mine looks dogshit
>>585693290so the chuds are scared of pvp
I want to join the Scarlet CrusadeIs that so much to ask
>9 more days of my gay life without wow forever
>>585693413Chuds can only function in echo chambers, they’re terrified of outside confrontation.
>>585693413they are so big they wouldnt be able to play pvp due to faction lock, pve has no lock, also the sharding and layering was getting them killed when they would accept a questy and get instantly sharded into a horde zerg solo
How do I stop myself from jerking off all of the time? I feel like It's really going to impact my enjoyment of wow and I want to get a handle of it now before the game launches.
>>585693340fuck thats hot
>>585693413Unironically yes. Asmon ran a poll to see which ruleset his lemmings would rather play on and PVE won by a landslide.
>>585692920yes but also anyone who used HD should be rounded up and terminated
for my dwarf shaman should I go with galebreaker, galeforged or galehammer as a last name?
>>585693210>>585693271Thinking about banging hot 19 year olds and pursuing it. That was the implication I saw, that you don't even think about it anymore let alone pursue it.
>>585693564gaybreaker gayforged gayhammer
>>585693493Every time you feel the urge look at a photograph of you mom and grandma
>>585693608He wants to stop jerking off, not double it
>>585693493Play a Paladin so you can masturbate to interracial porn while you level
>>585692127Paladins and Warlocks have class quests there.That is enough to make a party.
>>585693493I'm having the same problem. I spend 3-4 hours gooning per day. Precious hours that could otherwise be spent playing WoW.
>>585693493https://chastitytek.com
>>585693493Just turn it into a reward system.Finish a quest? Have a wank.Level up? Have a wank.Win a roll in a dungeon? Have a wank.Game disconnects and you're stuck in the queue? Have a wank.That's what I do.
The seething and complaining when tourists finally hit 60 and experience janky classic (nuclassic) raiding/endgame is gonna be funny.
>>585693493You posted this and triggered me, you fuck. Now you must post more.
>>585693396The reddit census poll put RP-PvE at pretty much exactly 10% of votes, so it should be alright.I don't think it'd be too optimistic to assume the live game could have 100k+ players on that ruleset (per region).
>>585693587Oh no you're right, I'm not doing that. Just mindlessly gooning to porn is all I do.
>>585693340its still only 20% chance when a target with your VE dies if you put only one point in it
>>585683317>Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.Source needed
>>585693673I read that as chastity kek
>>585693736its not a chance, its 20% if you kill OR 100% it dies with VE, we tested it on beta
>>585693340It doesn't say 20% when you kill or 100% when the target dies while affected by VE
>>585693675But they’re redesigning all the raids and the raids we’re getting in December are just going to be retail-lite DDR fights.
>>585693752Would be the gayest shit ever
>>585693340I'm not sure how to properly interpret that, is it a 20% chance when the VE afflicted target dies (by any means, not just my killing blow), or is it ALWAYS after a VE afflicted enemy dies?
>>585693674>Finish a quest? Have a wank.That motherfucker is doing a repeatable turn-in all day
>>585693775Kek same anon
Bros what snacks are we getting for release night?? For me? It's gotta be Dom-mmm-inoes
what if we had vanilla balancing but up to legion classes haha
>>585693801its 20% per point chance if you get the killing blow, or 100% if it dies to anyone with VE on it at even just 1 point, because VE is a CD
>>585693674This. I'm wanking right now, actually.
>>585693790>>585693782oh well nvm then, blizzard tooltips useless as always
>>585683738>18/31/2 Fury buildHuh?
>>585693860Will be midnight here so I'm sleeping, so nothing
>>585693782thats not how it readsits says you have 20% chance if the target dies from your damage or if it has your VE on it
>>585690203Coping poorfag
>>585693860DOMNAMOOS
>>585693892It's slop, don't worry
>>585693674What exactly do you mean by have a wank? If it's a regular multiple hour sesh you won't be getting anywhere in the game
>>585689420Why are you retards lying? Classic launched before The Coof.
>>585693860Tap water
>>585693893>He isn't taking release day off workYou might as well not even play, you're going to be SO F*CKING behind it won't even matter anymore. Goodluck finding a guild, let alone a raid group that will carry you fucking casual retard
>>585693674>all the cloth turn-ins to reach 60
>>585693881If that's indeed how it works, neat, it'll be cool to save 4 talent points (and not have to compete for killing blows in groups).
They should have made a WoW2 with these principles so we could have better HD models that don't look like that pensioner who made the famous Jesus painting restoration was told to copy a 2010 pixar movie.They can't even sell mounts and costumes to justify any development of this and it's just taking away from customers committing to a Fresh actual WoW2 later because they were already burned on Retail by Forever being the new toy that voids their collections.
>>585693971But I am? Technically not because I'm in home office but I'll play the whole day. I'm also taking the week off after
>>585693962Based monk playing from a monastery
>>585693674>stopping mid dungeon to have a quick cheeky fap session after you win a rolllmao
>>585693493Just do it on flight paths, boats, or zeppelins. Encourages further exploration of the game too!
>>585693860If a pizza is your snack, what the fuck do you eat for the meal?
Do the higher level mats give more adventurer's rewards on turn-in? Like does a mageweave tailor's crate give more than a linen one?
>>585693860I don't see how anyone can enjoy dominos. The pizza always just tastes off to me and their toppings feel rancid sometimes. Also they use that fake as shit garlic butter dip which is disappointing when Papa Johns has been using real fat (don't know whether it's butter or margarine) with less processing/additives in theirs. Pizza hut also has shit garlic butter, but at least their pan pizzas are pretty good and their bbq brisket pizza is my all time favorite chain pizza.
>>585693860drugs
>>585693860not eating until 60
>>585693912its 2 independent statements separated by OR, the percent of the first has no effect on the second
Forever = whiteretail = brown
>>585694080>hunter wins my 2h strength sword>stops playing to jerk off in celebration
>>585694118burgers and nuggies of course
>>585693860I'm here with no food because I don't eat while playing mmos
>>585693674Jesus christ man, with this sort of criteria I'd be dead day 1.>Launch happens>Try to log in>Queue>Fap>Get in game finally>Kill 10 wolves>Level>Fap>Hand in quest>Fap>Hand in another quest>Fap>Hand in another>Ding>Fap twice to even it outAll this just in the starting area
>>585683738I'm going to laugh so fucking hard when rets lose spots to holychads who get brought for being able to cast a heal or cleanse in between their rotation and still do more dps than retardins.
>>585693265wrath isn't exactly a hard hitting spelldemo shadow bolt at 1k spellpower is doing 647 dps not counting shadow vuln (777 if you could get 100% uptime) and they don't have to use wrath every 3rd cast
>>585693860I live in NYC so I'm going to get a good brick oven pizza and a bunch of coke zeroes
>>585693430They're too racist even for the conservative alliance.
>>585694125Sorry but Dominos out Pizzas the HuttSimple as.
>>585693929thanks for spending money and larping as QA to ensure I have the best experience possible at launch>he doesn't even do it for free>he pays to do itlmao
>>585693797Lvl 60 will be Forever’s max level cap, but not for the reasons you think…dead before the chance to even raise it
>>585694314Yes.
>>585694294every time I got 'za in new york it was one of the worst pizzas I ever ate. Chicago and even Boston clears it by leaps and bounds
>>585692006Same desu
>>585693962>he drinks the goylube poisoned by JewsKek
>>585690203Most people won't have problems with their name. The actual names that need reserving are like Asmongold Twitchtv
>>585683738Where is Smite Priest? Last time I saw this site posted it included that and it was above Elemental Shaman.
cant wait to see what sick shit aggrend has cooked up for us at 60
>>585690203It's hilarious that """good names""" are going to essentially be a paypig golden star.Back when WoW was less gay people would ban people with the BC preorder sperm horse from their groups and raids, now modern wow "fans" (addicts) see it as some kind of badge of honor to paypig blizzard
>>585683738>rogue is totally going to be #1 on patchwerk guysWhy did Zierhut lie to us bros? I just don't see how you overcome a 500 dps gap through gearing in a specific way unless the gear is just "your slice n dice gives you 300% attack speed" or something equally ludicrous.
>>585694417Apparently she has a thing for manlets.
>>585694418There's thousands of pizza places here and only like 5% of them are good but if you stick to the 5% of places that don't make bullshit you're good. There's a michelin star places near me that makes a good pie for $26.
>>585694485Looking at the state of Hyjal on beta they haven't even finished most shit at 60 yet
>>585694517T...that's...me...she's...perfect...
>>585694514Rogue numbers seem incredibly weak in that hallucinated sim anyways.Either there's something we don't know or they'll have to do something.
>>585694535>There's thousands of pizza places here and only like 5% of them are good but if you stick to the 5% of places that don't make bullshit you're good.https://youtu.be/Y4bEOzw8CeYI fucking hate new york so much and to a much larger extent, new yorkers
>>585694170you have 20% chanceif you kill the targerORthe target has your VAthe 20% chance affect both of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQotzm19XXsgnome priest gods
>>585683738It's been over 20 years of them doing fotm juggling and people STILL care about this shit pre-release
>>585694170>20% chance when x or yis almost always going to be interpreted as either x or y have a 20% chance, as multiple people's experience in the thread confirms
>>585694649it doesnt, and thats also not how it works currently in game, its 100% with VE on if it dies to anyone with just 1 point
>>585693860I will just eat whatever Mom's making that day.
>>585694649Yeah, that's how anyone would normally read it, but he claims it was tested and doesn't function that way. Makes me think it's an unintended bug until said otherwise by a blue.
>>585694705Blame Blizzard for introducing 10m and 20m. No one wants the lowest dps shitter, no matter the patch, when they are limited on slots.
someone explain to me how demo lock works, the talent tree seems lackluster to me
>>585693493If you're brown, afraid there's no helping you.
>>585694660Get fucked GAYO
>>585694485They haven’t finished any of the 50+ zones or dungeons yet.
>>585694506Something tells me youre mixing the wrath cosmetic horse with BC collectors edition somehow, either way youre retarded.
>>585694924Yes but top DPS is probably going to change 5 times before most people even hit level 60...
What do I do for 9 days? Can't even play vidya now that steam is currently down
>>585694705Years of retail doing dogshit balancing then refusing to budge on what specs are good/bad for an entire season has taught everyone they need to make the correct choice from the start.
>>585694992I just logged into steam it works for me
>>585694990This is why I'm multiboxing 9 accounts to 60 so no matter what happens I'll have my top dps class ready to go.
>>585694992Play one of those vibecoded vampire survivor clones on your browser like azeroth survivors or pokebonk
>>585688745UD warlock, I'm going to consume the soul and the body of ennemies
>>585695084Try restarting steam
How long until they nerf this?
>>585695184If they ever nerf it itll likely be right before they release a new paid race which will have even more broken racials
>>585692368I'm sure it was real in your had
WHERE ARE THE NOTES BLIZZARD
>>585693493>this entire general iunironically filled with gooners masturbating 6+ times in a dayI mean idk what I expected. But like I barely have time to jerk it once a day yall need to get a jobsome of yall need chastity cages i swear
>>585695184There's a chance they will nerf it before release but after that it's unlikely
>>585689273>Scarlet Crusader>*is actually constantly lusting for Orc cockI hate this trope. Why can't evil racist women just be pure
>>585695167I just told you it works for me but alright, I restarted and it opens just totally fine. Store works, I can play stuff, the only thing that's not working is seeing my download queue. However funnily enough downloadind itself does still work
>>585683738Rogue bros is it joever for us?
>>585695184Hopefully never because they literally have nothing else going for them. Even their glider slowfall sucks because it's so short and we already have confirmed gliders coming to the game.
I wish the jannies would start banning these gooners who can't stop talking about sex
>>585695371>Why can't evil racist women just be pureSally is right there
>>585694540>>585694942wtf... the games out in 9 days
>>585695184If they don't release change notes before the release, it will never get changed. Once people pick their race / class blizzard would be stupid to modify any of the racials.
>>585695284What notes? Patch notes? You think they are gonna swoop in and save Horde racials last minute? LMAO. Have fun with 90/10 faction balance in Alliance favor
>>5856951849 daysThey remove all combat racials in the game due to people crying. They keep pandering to min/max autists and within 2 months of launch it's a homogenized piece of shit and all class / race combos deal completely equal dps.
>>585695184If it gets even 0.1% of players to buy the DLC, so they can be "the strongest race", Blizzard won't change it any time soon.And they said they probably won't mess with racials at all after launch, so if it's not changed by then, it won't be EVER
>>585695461>blizzard would be stupid to-Never stopped them before. Literally not once.
>>585695284here
>>585695460Gonna be fun to watch streams of the people trying to get world first 60 constantly run into bugged quests, mobs, items, and dungeons after they get past lvl 30
>>585695562prot and holy are already shit, and ret (holy shock) is the best build
The only reason Shaman are shit right now is so that fat fucking retard can "justify" buffing them to the teeth shortly after he hits level 60.How do you retards fall for it every single time
>>585695562I call fake. This list doesn't even have a Penance nerf on it.
>>585695682this has never happened in over 2 decades of shaman existing
>>585695184>like 3 extra spells throughout a boss encounterwho fucking cares lol
>>585695497
>>585695184They shouldn't. There needs to be a reason to play them
>>585695740lmao.
>>585695739The EXACT thing happened in the last game he was lead of, Season of Discovery. Enhance was top DPS, shaman tanks were 2nd DPS and both could heal themselves to full with a no cost instant cast without a cooldown. He made them fucking god-like for the majority of SoD. People were literally dying to lighting shield just attacking shaman that didn't even realize they were there
>>585695497call me a fool, but i genuinely think they will hold on having strong combat racials
>>585695453But you just talked about sex, therefor; youd be banned too
>>585695682But hasn't Aggrend switched over to paladin?
>>585695562fake list, you only listed two shaman nerfs.
>>585692440thats sexy as fuck. wish i could fuck her
ADD SATYR TO HORDE
>>585696025We all do anon, we all do. Cunnymane was built from the ground up with sex in mind....Or maybe that's just cunny in general.Well whatever.
>>585694080>implying you need more than one hand to play
>>585695892If all the gooners get banned from now on, I'll sacrifice 3 days
>>585695975He publicly claimed to play paladin in SoD but also played shaman. He posted a video of himself in the Forever beta playing shaman, again
>>585688128Whitemane
>>585696093all cunny is made to be stretched by cock
I still can't believe how retarded streamers are thinking that having talent points 5 levels early is going to ruin balance and that "EVERYONE" will be doing it. Yeah bro, let me just forsake getting buku rich with all the extra mats and other nice shit just so I can be 2% stronger than someone in worlo pvp. Lmao
>>585693365>I'd bet they were just trying to dip into the retail player base to prop up a new projectRetail players want QUEL'DOREIThey've been asking for them for TWENTY YEARSAdding plain high elves would be the retail grab retard
They should just give you 10 legacy points for free
They should just let you buy legacy points for $45 USD
>>585688128Does Jaina really have a powerful futa penis hiding under he skirt? Is that true, chat?
>>585695461>Once people pick their race / class blizzard would be stupid to modify any of the racials.What are you talking about. They nerf people's shit all the time. The whole reason vitalik buterin got into crypto was because he was mad blizzard nerfed his warlock.
>>585695562You forgot the part where they make it so windfury can't chain off itself and limit it to 1 extra attack.
They should just delete legacy points
>>585695461I hate this mentality, anyone playing an mmo and not expecting ups and downs after they make a character is retarded. It's like some weird group of retards that have never played a game before are suddenly experts on mmos.
>>585696578Yea
>>585695184leylines shit is way WAY more beneficial than haste everyone is yapping about, it'll be absurdly op for resto's and even mages
Human Fire mage is BiS for the crit chance, right?
Why did Faggrend ignore rogues, the main characters of wow?
I want a classic version of Demon Hunter. And Warden. A Satyr DH or Warden sounds Kino
>>585696620Why?
>>585696937i think the arcane via its talent tree may have higher crit than fire?
>>585696951dont worry theyll buff them after most people get to 60, they just know that if rogues are strong when everybody is leveling then half of the population is just going to roll rogue and corpse camp the other half of players
I wish they just deleted males from the game and instead gave us futas. A world with nothing but big titties and curvy asses.
>Remove reforger because they wanted you to equip any item right away>Add crests and sparksWhy are the developers such niggers?
guhnome priestblackbody type 1
>>585688128Canonically, Chromie has a dragon cockNon-canon (but canon in our hearts), maybe gnolls since they're basically hyenas. And Draenei, obviously, but they're not in Forever (I don't want to imagine Broken futas).
>>585697068They did delete males. There's only body types now.
>>585685010i left my 2 year guild because they aren't going the faction i want
>>585696553How many? If it's enough to reach cap sure I'd buy them
>>585697024*gnome arcane is the best mage/racial setup, i think
wow forever is part of his plan.
>>5856971691 point
>>585697226That bastard
>>585697226Who's worse, J'lor or Xal'aindustryplant?
>>585697024doesn't fire benefit more from crit than arcane? that's the entire spec's identity
>he did not play the beta>he did not get the secret cheevosIf you can't link that cheevo you're not getting into my rfc group.
>>585697226>but what if that one random Dwarven hunter with a bear pet in Dun Morogh... went THAT WAY, instead of THIS WAYI don't think the Jailer foresaw the big twist in Forever which lead to the alternate timeline.
>>585697324does he say this?
Arcane in forever is fucking retarded. You keep up 1 stack of arcane blast until it wears out and most of the time youre spamming fireball or frostbolt absolute pants on head retarded gay shit
>>585697226I actually don't think Shadowlands sucked.Raids were top tierMogs were top tierBest megadungeonIt's just Korthia that sucked and that's because they left the development to make Dragonfags
>>585697374yea sorry I replied weird. fire would be bis for the crit passive in terms of mage specs
>>585697410Yep its all part of his plan
https://talentsforever.com/priest/60/-03505103030101531-40132201241-010001-01000101-01001-ljnom1qrmtsU3TWXZb2dUgfhbi-8?b=70425h&d=261026What about this build going for PoM in holy and triggering spirit tap and dark Inspiration? Seems cool for a PvE support maxxing build
>>585697346jailer atleast has some aura and meme potential, xalatath is just safe horny girlboss.>>585697409Actually that is ALSO part of his plan, chud jailer wins again.>>585697479bro it obliterated the lore so hard we got forever, could have been salvaged if they didnt try to redeem sylvanas and gave jailer an actual plan.
>>585697536i havent really looked at the mage talent calculator but maybe there's a high crit arcane/fire build that might be better
>>585697602>support maxxing>in 10 and 20 man raidsyou mean wasting a raid slot
Do you think players will experience discrimination for playing skyborn? Ive already seen some bigots suggesting they wont invite them to their groups...
>>585697676not only maxxing for 10-20mans, but also 10-20mans tuned to be beatable by classic gamerdads, so expect 1 mechanic per boss and some grindy requirement to pass the encounter, like having 150 shadow resist on your gear or something, the raids are going to be an absolute joke
>>585697409>dwarf changes his mind and decides to follow a wisp instead of continuing to Ironforge>this opens up Dalaran, creates Undead Paladins, and reveals a secret sect of Elves to the worldHow does he have so much power?
Anyone ever think about how there's barely anything in the Shaman kit that's actually shamanistic? There's Ghost Wolf, Far Sight, Astral Recall, Ancestral Spirit (namewise), and Reincarnation. A more accurate name for them would be Elementalist
>>585697760no there will be a pride parade including horde and alliance skyborne care bearing in peace with GMs teleporting in using rainbow toys
>>585697410They added it in Reforged.
>>585697479None of what you said is true, looked like non-warcraft disney trash
>>585697324that guy from gaylo is behind arthas turning into a gaylord?!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk8gX68ITMY
So the legacy talent points give you boosts to gathering right? So is it better to just start gathering once you hit 60 or is there a bigger payoff in immediately making an alt to get the legacy points before starting to gather? I didn't play the beta so I don't know how long the points take to get.
>>585697907I like the left side of legacy tree so yeah can do it on main
>>585697626this looks fun. arcane instability applying to all spells is neat
>>585697858The dwarf hunter in Dun Morogh IS Jay'lorJust wait.
>>585697192arcane is giga juiced from the blue elf mana racial
I don't know which set of characters I should rolloption a>female gnome priest>female dwarf paladin>female troll shaman>female tauren druidoption b>female gnome priest>female nelf druid>female troll shaman>female undead paladinnelfs are obviously sexier than dwarfs and undeads are sexier than taurenbut dwarfs are sexier than undead and paladin will likely be my main so the choice is weighted heavier
How impactful do you think 3% haste will be at end game? Wanna go nelf but I feel like the 3% later down the line will make a huge difference.
>>585698237>no male characterstroon alert
>>585684881>then they will merge it to the pvp realmthat's the biggest loss possible
>>585697676would have shit uptime on the buff, low hit rate and CD on mindblast, just take an actual shadow
Has there been a /wowfg/ ruleset census yet?I saw the Reddit one.
>>585698309it's going to be hard requirement for top parses but unless you are a tranny there's no reason to care about any of that.
>>58569830910% crit for 15 seconds while you pop trinkets and stuff will be comparable dps
>>585695892Hey edit this post to switch the semicolon and comma and I'll upvote. TIA
Hunters>pet loyalty>have to level pets>like 3 stable slots>have to feed pet>have to waste time taming other animals to teach your pet better spells>have to waste a bag on ammo>ammo only stacks to 200>best ammo in the game is made by engineers, meaning you have to spend more gold than anyone just to raidWarlocks>pets level with you>pets don't need to be constatntly fed>pets are instantly loyal to you because they know bettter>simply buy new pet spells from a vendor and train it to your pet>mount is literally free>only hassle is soul shards>don't need many soul shards while leveling>big ass soul shard bags you can buy at 60>don't even need to buy mana pots>don't have retarded dead zoneYep, know which class I'm playing this time around.
>>585698369We are all rolling alliance RP-PVP.
>>585698083hilarious how spellfire is shaping up to blow frostfire out of the water AND it's also the meta S tier mage in Midnight right now
>>585698083don't forget that frostfire bolt will be affected by both frost and fire talents, you leave a lot of damage on the table when you don't take frost. what would the rotation be with your talents? arcane blast will not build heating up stacks
>>585697226
>>585698309If they're actually lowering your GCD with haste like I believe the state of haste was on beta that means they'll be adding other sources of haste to gear which means the 3% is not much.If that was a bug and it's not supposed to lower your GCD that means it doesn't affect half your spells which means the 3% is not much.So not much.
>>585698402I agree with this, the fights will be so fast, that's the better option
>>585698434>don't have retarded dead zoneInstead everyone and their mother can interrupt and silence you.
>>585698434Reagent economy works for ammo for hunters
>>585698449Isn't RP-PvP the Reddit meme ruleset (Grobmob or something)
>>585698434Hunter>pet is a cuck, you tell it what its name is Warlock>pet is chad, it tells you what its name is
>>585697620>caring about wows lore
>>585698309It will be nerfed, especially once theres a raid with elemental boss and blue elf is required for +95 parse
>>585697880>bobadas
>>585698434All of the "downsides" of Hunter that you listed are an afterthought at high level
>>585698540>enslaved>chad
>>585698540you arent supposed to give them names it makes them more powerful
>>585697804Sounds comfy
>>585698686>futa succubus you can fuck whenever you wantWarlock is the chad class
>>585698309Autists already simmed everything and there's less than 1% difference between the combat racials.
>>585695551>>585696607>>585696752doesn't matter, if they nerf my choice I quit the game and they get no more money from me.
Rogues are the only non cucked class
>>585698986false, and 1% is already massive from just clicking a button on character selectionMost people would kill for a 1% dps increase
>>585699043nothing changed so no wonder
>>585698237you will never be a woman
>>585698473if i was casting frostfire bolt instead of fireball I would revert to the frost tree instead of arcane. I guess id just spam fireballs with missile barrage procs, cast fire blast and wrath as a filler and heating up pyro. i specd into ab for arcane wrath, otherwise wont use it
So is it Human or Skelf for Fire Mage? I need to Know.
>>585699043>pure dps class>does some of the worst dpsnani
>>585683917Why? Im playing PVE
>>585697862Well I don't really know what a shaman would do so no I never thought of that
N-N-NINTENDO W-WII
>>585698540They really need to make us able to rename demons. Imagine you name your succubus Anon's gf kek
>want to play warrior>forced to play skelf because 3% haste means more rage generation
>>585697862Shamans calls on the power of element spirits and that the most shamanistic thing possible.They can't cast shit without the help of spirits.
>>585699173Gnome
>>585699393so does 2% crit
>>585699437why
>>585699173stop posting pepe with food on his head ok? it makes me hungry every time
Should I roll shockadin or rogue bros....
>>585699514what food?
>>585699509Because its bis nigger.
>>585699173better ask the mage discord than here
>>5856993932% is better
>>585698685Literally most of those still apply at 60. Hunter is a cucked class.
>>585699586Paladin because you take gear wowyers and bears don't care about.
mark your calendars
>>585699637>read ley line regeneration is not ranked>arcane looking metahmmm
>>585699393depends how much crit you can get on gear, 2% crit falls off, haste doesnt
>>585699505anon I...
>>58569963714 dps... troll bros....
>>585699690I played classic hunter at max level for over 2000h, ammo and pet food do not matter
>>585699158which is why I play females in video games
>>585696578https://files.catbox.moe/cl5smj.mp4
can’t wait to be a feral at 60 and have the same fucking experience there as on beta>can you tank? looking for a tank bro! tank last spot? tank?FUCK OFF MAN no i do not want to play the slowest lowest damage lowest aggro tank in the game i want to play cat
>>585699774Lying jew.
>>585699710>line up in formationstranny coded.
>>585699505>>5856996482% crit loses value over time as players get closer to the crit cap. 3% haste is always valuable.
>>585699710this will be a bloodbath from the level 60s
>>585696578No. Fake news. Jaina is a dreadlord so her form is fully female but the true form has a powerful demon male member.
>>585699832You lost.
>>585699505the haste is infinitely better dingleberry
>>585699924But I played Goyter in classic, which is why I know it sucks.
>>585699819>lowest aggro tank in the gameActually bear is top threat based on lacerate and missing talents.
>>585699648>>585699505even in early gear its negligible, and it will fall off
>>585699637berserking should be every 2 minutes..
>>585699594can you make them spin
>>585699819>FUCK OFF MAN no i do not want to play the slowest lowest damage lowest aggro tank in the game i want to play catAnon I don't think you played any tanks in the beta at all. Bear form has the best AoE and single target damage of all the tanks. Once you get the crit and dodge rage talents, it will have the best rage generation as well. As of right now:Best AoE threat>Bear>Warrior>PaladinBest Single target threat>Bear>Warrior>PaladinBest Mitigation>Warrior>Bear>Paladin
Are we really launching the game with wild growth? Are we sure about that?
keep forgetting this place is nothing but faggotsyou're like reddit but faggots in a different way
>>585695116Yea, better hedge your bets on shaman or priest being top DPS because that could totally happen for real.
>>585700108and the aura.. bears are the best tanks
>>585700105I don't know ask Claude
>>585700108>Paladin Worst AoE Threatwhat did they do to them?
I have to go skelf because cows are fucking traitors irl and bro is making us go horde oh well at least if an old school mate ends up playing i can go undead / troll priest
There is simply no better character to start a new server with than Warlock.You can't convince me otherwise no matter how hard you try.Incredible solo potential seeing as how it's a pet class.Incredible utility, demon banishes, summoning people, health stones, soul stones and great CC.Highly sustainable so you can just keep farming forever.Free mount, while everyone else is worrying about getting the gold for theirs, you get to do a soulful themed quest for yours and your mount is unique to your class and looks better than everybody elses generic mounts.You can pick up Tailoring which will give your amazing armor and bags. Any other character you make will never have to worry about bags because the first char you made has that shit covered.Your second profession can either be enchanting, to make staves, rods and enchant stuff (though this is admittedly not as good just due to you needing to have an enchanter on another account ideally to enchant all your other chars gear) or a gather profession for money or something like Alchemy even.All 3 specs are amazing. How many classes can you say that about? Most classes have dud specs, Warlock does not.Tell me what the fuck this class is missing. I'm dying to hear it. What does it lack? It has it all. You start with a Warlock and you're giving yourself the most powerful start of all. Warlocks are the ultimate class.Now if only we had a Satyr race that I could roll to be a Lock that would be peak.
>>585700163the whole world is faggotsyou are too, for making this bitchy post, faggot
>>585698434soul shards are 10x worse niggery than all of the things you listed for hunter
I want to play...
>>585695453>banning these gooners who can't stop talking about sex/v/ and /vg/ are nothing but hentai goon bait threads started by trannies to lure young boys into the gooner->tranny pipeline.
>>585700238ok chatGPT very cool
>>585699813Link is dead?
>>585700204Nerfed ret aura, cap on consec, no BoSanc anymore, taunt on their single snap threat.
OH MY GOD IS THAT A 0.03 DPS DIFFERENCE IN RACIALS????? FUUUUUUUUUUUCK I CANT PLAY THE RACE I WANT ITS SO OVER WHY DOES BLIZZARD DO THIS
>>585700163and yet you're posting here. curious
>>585700326https://v.sankakucomplex.com/data/33/04/33046f7f93a3037c9b7704ef700069c6.mp4?e=1793026258&m=90dIYavFTfnIpVM2eG687g&expires=1793026258&token=1u2aar4Yr0qU2no2Qc0DZnBWuk9odo6oPjQ-IKyFylk
>>585700423i aint clicking that, niggawtf
So only Ret is good now? Why didnt they also bring up prot/holy?
>>585700464Your loss.
>>585700423i aint clickin that shit either, retard
>>585700423>sankakucomplexthats a place I haven't thought about since forever.
>>585700464>bro if I click a link my whole PC is gonna get taken over!!!!to be so naive and tech illiterate again
>>585700204they nerfed spell power scaling on all their shit and capped targets on all their aoe to 4 because the fat retard is afraid they will aoe farm lashers or something
>>585700204Paladin has a few issues.>Warrior and Bear gain threat from all sources, so things like Sapper Charges, and other player's retri/thorns give them extra threat where paladin only gains bonus threat from holy damage>Nerf Retribution aura scaling and damage>Nerf Consecration scaling and damage>Consecration is locked to dealing damage to the first 4 targets inside it. Swipe and Thunderclap can be tab targeted to hit different units each use in a large pull>Buffed feral to scale thorns with spell power from talents>Warrior and Druid have AoE tauntsPaladin single target threat is absolute ass too. They will lose threat constantly on bosses.
>>585700593holy nova is best lashers farm anyway
What percentage of horde went pally in the beta stats? I'm not playing this class if it's crazy high.
>>585700568now im really not clicking it.. nice try
>>585699819they got mangle and the last point in feral makes it aoe they just renamed it to something stupid i dont remember what so now you basically aoe bloodthirst/shield slam on pull bro
>>585700238I dunno youll get bored of it and drop wow like you do every “fresh start”
>>585700593they didn't nerf it. it's back to classic coefficients now. they just undid the buff.
>>585700638>Consecration is locked to dealing damage to the first 4 targets inside itnow were they afraid of retail pulling in dungeons when people got gear or were they just fucking brain damaged with this change
>>585700423This was me and Tom Ellis's wife last night.
>>58570070735%
warrior tanks sucked in tbc and paladins owned. it's only fair warriors get to be the best now.
>>585700805isnt it that it deals "more" damage to the first few units that enter it, or something wierd?
>>585699637>human surged ahead for some reason>skelf is only meta for fucking frost of all things bitch say what
>>585700802yeah the numbers where paladins don the dress and do nothing else because their class does not function outside of pressing the same heal with infinite mana over and over except now the entire holy tree is raped for the shock meme so they cant even do that
>>585693564Galehammer
>>585700925It is "more damage" but the damage to the units that aren't the first 4 targets is so minimal it will not be holding threat from dps AOE attacks.
>>585700707
>>585700925it sounds more like a warrior or hunter sort of deal and doesnt fit the pally archetype
spent 4 hours plapping to extreme bbc sissy humiliation hypno last night to help prep for launch
>>585700682they stack a gorillion shield block damage effects with skull flame shield usually
>>585700971yeah but you'll get spot bcuz blessings who cares
>>585700179Elemental and enhance will get overbuffed on release date.
>>585700238Are they loyal to Xavius?
>>585701014well thats fucking stupid. should've just left it the way it was..
>>585700924Nobody ran paladin tanks in TBC. We had a healer bitch who would spec into off tanking on Kael'thas but that's it. Every main and off tank was a warrior.
Got a 24 hour compilation of colored and non-human bitches worshipping BWC to watch on launch day. I'm ready.
>>585701059You're playing a healer then?
>>585700938yeah...
>>585700938it specifically says it doesnt include the ley line mana, and the preset gear is probably lacking crit
>>585688745Troll priest that's always drunk and poor because he spends all his gold on alcohol. He heals and cleanses people for gold to fund his alcoholism.
purple elf or blue elf for druid?
>>585701187Based. Do you put that into clips and have them on a goon wall?
>>585701117you have to bring retardins because thats the only spec not completely raped since aggrend plays itinstead of having a dysfunctional spec they instead have a braindead spec with the babby twisting for mouthbreathers
>>585701142Shaman has 1 viable PVE end game spec in vanilla(+) and that's resto.
>>585701152That would just make paladins too strong for aoe farming, and all the people who are no longer playing mages would switch to paladin for farming.
>>585700938lmao, these fuckers framing tiers like news networks framing graphs to make them seem a magnitude worse than it actually is.
>>585700938Impressive. Most races within margin of error of each other. Perfectly balanced.
>>585701059good girl, did you cum
>>585701347uh >>585701195
>>585700938>Ley Line not taken into consoderationloooooooooooool
>>585701183>Nobody ran paladin tanks in TBC.
>>585700238what if they made satyr girls but had them be ugly as fuck instead of sex like the pic you posted?would you still want them?
>>585701313>Shaman has 1 viable PVE end game spec in vanilla(+) and that's resto.and that's a good thing
>>585701256Male night elf of course. The blue elves are fan fiction
>>585701401which part of within 1% of eachother did you not understand?
>SKYBORNE FUCKING SUCKthread starts being spammed/flooded with pronsick offtopic dog shit by the russian pedophile and it's wowg faggot brigade, every single time
>>585701059also I forgot to say I am a horde warrior dps main
>>585701187This but BBC for me
>>585701462I'll fuck that sassy mouth of yours if you're not careful
>>585700232How are taurens traitors?
>>585697346J'lorXally is my evil girlfailure Moe wife
UOOhohhhhh...I member blue blood elves.......I member HD graphics.......I member sharding and megaservers where you will never see the same person twice.......I member......kino.......
>>585690979For <Remigration>Now that RP-PVP confirmed, are we moving to RP-PVP?
>>585701183anon what the fuck are you doing
>>585701313It's going to change on launch when they release the full patch notes.
>>585700238If my Succubus is named Bronys or something I'll have to delete the WL at level 20. In this case I'd rather have 10+ legacy points already so for me it's not a good first character.
>>585701321i think uppity retards ruin good things from their persistent autistic complaining to where it nerfs other players that aren't autistic karens themselves
>>585701654>he thinks they will patch anything at all let alone fix the classes that are brokenkekarooo, you will get a handful of bugfixes and some talents shuffled around at best
>>585701425What kind of ugly?
do you have to be flagged for the opposite faction to be able to attack you at alll in PvE, even if you're in their territory?
>>585701659Just go with your Nig'ger. Randomized names are great.
>>585701183anon? paladins literally maintanked everything in good guilds
>>585701256Blue elves aren't real, but leyline is probably the best racial, but my guess is it will get nerfed when they see degenerates abusing it for raid content.
>>585701809source? we never had a paladin main tank because you just knew it was worse than warrior tank
>>585701697half the changes to the game so far have been because bots abuse things and they refuse to ban the bots so they instead make everyone have a worse game
>>585701763yes
Pve... or pvp.... I still can't decide.....t. Newfag
>>585701763Yes. You can freely go into enemy territory. The only time you get flagged are if you go into a capital city or if you aggro a town guard/NPC.
>>585701925>>585701962that's fucking retarded what the hell
>>585701926PvE if you want to play the game.PvP if you want to stare at a death screen as soon as you leave the starter zones.Hope this helps!
>>585701926pve you can still bg and kill quest npcs if you wana grief
>>585701870https://fresh.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1060?metric=progress&partition=3literally nothing but paladin + bear tank combos in every single guild
>>585701697They're trying to combat bot gold farming and boosting by making any ability that was being used to do it restricted in a way that no longer allows it to happen effectively.
>>585701926Pve if you want to auto attack boars Pvp if you want a living breathing world where unknown threats lurk around every corner and you have to play smart to surviven
>>585697602>no power infusionkill yourself now
Does Enhancement need hit past melee cap for their spells or do you just not bother?
>>585702146>unknown threats lurk around every corner>it's just skull level griefers >you have to play smart to surviven>nothing you can do but go somewhere else
>>5857021462 weeka after lauch redridgeguy will be doing his thing
>>585702146Everyone makes this sound cool but in reality world pvp is 90% bored level 60s ganking people in the 10-20s or roaming bands of 5 people ganking solo players. After the beta there will be no "glorious wars" and very few "honorable duels".
>>585702226This shit rarely happens. It isnt even fun or interesting to kill people way below your level and even if they did do that, just rez behind a tree and walk somewhere else to quest.
>>585702146pve, dont let yourself be gaslit but fags who wax about some epic le world pvp that never happens. its always one sided ganking
>>585702410>This shit rarely happens.kek
>>585702423>its always one sided gankingYeah, but it's fun when you're the one doing it
>>585702146>Pvp>living breathing worldDid you mean RP little bro?
>>585702423Enjoy collecting boar ass forever
new player herepvp or pvehorde or alliance
>>585702540PVPHorde
>>585702580im going female human mage pvp
>>585702540PvEAlliance
>>585702498>Yeah, but it's fun when you're the one doing itThis is how the brown thirdie mind works, fascinating
>>585701192>>585701476i think i will play rogue>>585701348no, it's more fun if you don't have a full orgasm
>>585702410what an interesting bait
Foreverbros... we lost!
https://x.com/ToniNottford/status/2114666819248386202This is why you nevet raid with egirls
it'soverbros, we're back!
>>585702676flat cage?
>>585702667na im going female human mage pvp lol
>>585702658Do you enjoy being raped?
does serpent sting scale with ap like arcane shot?
>>585702771Didn't ask
Female human mage anons owe me dates with lots of kisses
>>585702882what about fem skelf mage anons
>>585702852ye its top dps
>>585702764duh
>>585702979ewwwwwwwwww
If I join Olympus will I be able to find a gf?
Azeroth Survivors tier list:S:>Priest>WarlockA:>Shaman>HunterB:>Druid>Paladin>RogueC:>Mage>Brownoids
>>585702882Female (male)?
>>585703080a greasy chud boy gf maybe, not even trans
PvP is only fun if you're the one stomping people that have no hope of winning. Which means it's ass to play in almost all gameplay scenarios.
>>585703000link playlist, i wanna plap
>>585703108>shaman over druid and hunterhuh
>>585703108???? rogue is low key broken, does so much damage>>585703172sfw thread, just hit hypnotube
>>585701876>>585702082fucking grim..
>>585702754We're so Forover?
>>585703108If you try to gank a warlock out in the world there is a chance you will just getting feared and dotted up and lose. This becomes even more likely when at 42 with Death Coil.
Every time i think i want to play Forever i think that i cant be a Goblin or a Blood Elf and i get so fucking angry i dont want to ever give money to Blizzard again. Anyone else like this?
I will be scalping orcs and raping their women on my male human warrior
I got a huge shortstack interest I need my Goblin and my Gnomes
>>585703570bot reply?
>>585703723Holy based.
So if I want to be with the right wing chud faction which one should I go with. People make analogy of the alliance being a bunch of imperialist chud while horde are nigger but then again I feel like horde is the edgy racist faction
I will commit many war crimes as a Horde.
>>585703975alliance till asmon quits
>>585703673Yes,such is the fate of us blizzcuck sissy :(
>>585702734Comments are as you'd expect. A bunch of tranny leftists crying that he shouted at her :( for being such a fuck up and wasting the entire guilds time by not following orders.
I begin to touch /wowfg/ inappropriately
>>585703108bro feral druid is OP as fuck in that game. I just sit there in bear form and I'm unkillable.
>>585703673haha get owned go back to retail
>>585704158/wowfg/ whispers in your ears seductively It's over
Orc enh shaman, do I go mining/eng or skin/lw? I've always down mining/eng but the BoP LW gear looks really nice
rppvp is just pvp2
>>585703975>horde is the edgy racist factionIt used to kinda be this way but in retail it has become the left wing faction and this will continue in Forever because these people don't want to play with Asmongold and his fanbase which is alliance. There are still based people who play horde if you look around but generally avoid elf players.
>>585703975leftists and trannies play horde because they think the horde represent irl minorities
>>585703723You'd die of AIDS
>>585704369how in the fuck is that thumbnail supposed to relate to the subject of the video at all?
>>585704334how can anyone answer this question for you, just pick what you want. Being weak and gay is for alliance, if you cant decide you dont get to play an Orc.
>>585703975It used to be Horde but now it's Alliance
>>585700279How? How on earth do people in this thread have so much trouble with soul shards?You guys must be dumb or something
>>585704672I guess the character looks out of place in term of immersion
>>585704429I'm going to assume every horde femskelf with pink hair is a troon. They can't help but use the flag colors.
New>>585704848>>585704848>>585704848
>>585704728because having to load up on that shit before raid is annoying simple asdealing with less inventory space when you got gorillion consumables and extra gear pieces is annoyingnow we do have the reagent bag slot this time so it might not be as bad but in general the experience is just miserable
>>585703975I can guarantee you both factions will have fags on them.
>>585703108whats the priest build i felt like i was lacking damage
>>585699774Pet management is such a frustrating mess for me that I go lone wolf I just don’t get it. It’s constantly hungry and then the thing you invested so much into just runs away
>>585703975they cant play alliance it triggers them because of colonialism
>>585685510Forever doesn't have realms, numbnuts
>>585703723>warrior>raping>anythingnot sure about that anon
>>585703160Pvp is most fun when you're evenly matched or even slightly disadvantaged and pull out a win.Stomping people who have no chance is brown coded.
I mean, all trolling aside, did anyone play rogue during the beta test and how was it? Rogues were really great in vanilla WoW and only shat on in later variants like turtle where they made ret pallies top dps.
>>585701652>>585701415You kids are probably talking nuWoW TBC "classic."
>>585701654People want vanilla+.In vanilla a bunch of specs were shit.If you make ret paladin and enhance shaman end game viable you're not in vanilla anymore - you're in TBC or WOTLK era IN Vanilla.
>>585704369RP etiquette
