Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesName reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkqbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QFCzxf>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/pMkz4EVB<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | DiscordlessPrevious >>585735808
>9 more days of my gay life without wow forever
orcbros...we've become the raped...
>horde somehow even worse off than ever before
sell me on clover club
>Human>Ruthless now increases critical chance by 1% (was 2%).>Orc>Savage removed (1% increased critical strike chance).Why are these DEI hires so racist to Orcs?
>>585750126It's a private club, close friends only.
I plan to level using this new controller mode, sitting comfy on my couch and my pc hooked up to my big ass tv. is it worth buying an xbox controller for it or should i just use my generic controller i bought from amazon?
>>585752089It would be worth to kill yourself
>>585751332why is it on the op
The actual racial balance is Undead, Tauren, and Skyborne vs. everybody else. They get cool flavorful stuff. Other races get some interchangeable trinket effects.
Imagine not rolling a Troll when it's an option for your class.
what thehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c4KOAovT78
>>585750416Orc get that other ability they can press
>Using Skysight at an elemental convergence now also grants “Charged” for 1 hour. While Charged, the benefit of Skysight is a 30% movement speed increase. Charged persists through death.What the fuck is wrong with Blizzard?
>>585760376I saw this a couple days ago it's pretty cool
I wish I had a group of friends to level with and not look anything up
>>585760376Im planning on using this for open world stuff
>>585760228is that sword even in Forever?
>>585760767I can't tell who is a genuine retard or who is baiting for (you)'s anymore...
>>585760767READ NIGGA READ
>>585760767they want you and everyone els to give em more shekels goy
>>58576022820% spirit warrior troll build viable?
>>585755370>doesnt know about meldforever is a great time to get into warcraft! see you in azeroth
>>585760767I've been thinking what the Skyborn lore is...And I think they'll tie it to AL'akir the weilder of [The Blessed Blade of the Wind Seeker]
What class should I level so I wouldn’t be left out of a raid spot?
>>585760875I think this change is blizzard's masterpiece. they sucker the illiterates out of $30
Don't care still going to play Forever even with the wacky racial changes
>>585760913It's a funny meme self heal spec if you get the two Fury talents that also give you some extra self healing, but it's not THAT crazy.
ah looking at it again....my 15min regen is gone then ffs, it'll only work for 15 seconds attuned or not :(
I think plainsrunning is very good HOWEVERMy autism would flare up trying to minmax that shit CONSTANTLY so its literally unplayable.
What do Disc Priests contribute to a raid? Is power infusion that important to Parsemaxx?
fellow 30% movement speed buff enjoyers i implore you to read
>tfw you play shaman
>>585761003Neat. I just worry warrior + healer duo comps will happen less because of all the self-healing being doled out from legacy talents and normal talents
did you say planesWINNING ?
>>585761043>15 seconds ooh wow
I want to play some alts, I'm interested in NE, UD, dwarf and orc races, but I am rolling pvp and will be leveling all the melee classes. Which faction should I go?
The horde skelf racial is essentially just worgen darkflight now, which was never a very good racial, except you gotta find a leyline every hour.
>>585753308He's memeing you retard
>>585761031heals
They need to add draeneis with plainsrunning to balance this
>>585761085You're not healing that much broski, you can still duo queue.Or you can be funny and roll Warrior + SPriest since SPriest have a spirit buff now.
Every day this shit looks more and more like simultaneously the most retarded sheet metal snow hut third world slavic funserver, and simultaneously also just mad fucking boring and uninspiredHow could it go so wrong?
human or orc warlock
>>585746624hunter or druid for my wow forever main?
>>585760228>only class that kinda fits Troll is Hunter>they have the worst bow and gun animations in the gameShame. They're a sick race, but without Witch Doctors or an unga bunga pointy stick throwing Headhunter what's even the point.
>>585761307What were you expecting?
Post your names :)
>>585761242shadowpriest duo ain't the same...It's one of those rpg fantasy thing where alone a warrior needs to rest a lot and be ineffecient and a priest can't kill for shit in a decent time.But both off them together feels like 400%
>>585761342hunter if you are gay. druid if you are REALLY gay.
>>585761134certainly not winning on the DPS meters
>>585761342Hunter if you don't care about raiding/willing to risk it all on survival or druid if you do
>>585761342feral druid but skill no forms
was wowcg for or against the ban on gdkp
>>585761545we love gdkps
What class should my female night elf be....
>alliance skelf male rogueI'm rare
bros i came down with a horrible flu yesterday and im fighting high temps with medicine, im scared i dont wanna leave this world before playing launch :((
I feel like Orc hunters and demo locks getting the equivalent of 2-2.5 talent points is pretty good for specifically those classes but I don't know how it fits the idea of racial identify. Especially when they also allowed Orcs to be mages for whatever fucking reason.Anyway, don't care. I'm rolling Rexxar and everyone else can fuck off
>>5857614362% racial difference will only matter if everyone is on the exact same gear level using the same consumes and performing at the exact same levelif you stop to drink water for 3 seconds you lost your racial advantageWHO CARES
>>585761031well... you also PI the warlock tank on twin emps... so theres that...
>>585761590priest
Probably going to play for a couple months them quit out of bordem and not wanting to commit to a raid schedule just to get gear. What's the best server, class, and faction for me?
>>585761590Priest or Druid like what every tranny plays.
Night elf priest or night elf druud?Main focus is pvp healing/wpvp so im thinking Druid for the mobility and stealth, but I like that priest is less popular. Mind control is also cool.
>>585761697you will never ever get 99 parses as a tauren
>>585761763rp pve hunter
>>585761763wow forever will fail if all there is to do is raiding, just like retailRagnarok Online you can grind world mobs for gearOSRS you can go on epic quests solo or party that takes very long to complete
If I play a male gnome priest in which demographic do I fall into
>>585761812I'm a night elfI just think you and your ilk are mentally ill beyond description
>>585761391I don't know Priest very well but you could technically go a hybrid build like this. The Spirit buff from the Shadow tree also benefits the Holy tree's Spirit -> healing/spell power talent, while also giving the Troll Warrior some extra regen. Still supportive for healing too.
>>585761697if you stop and drink water for 3 seconds you lose your plainsrunning stacks too lol
>>585760841It's on the forever wowhead so maybe idk.
>>585761670Orc mage is so dumb
it's okay if horde is worse
>>585761761>>585761769So im hearing to play a rogue? Thats what I was considering the most
When will this prophet return?
>>585761930I meant drinking water from your desk and forgot it would be interpreted as drinking ingame lul
>>585761928You will end up going oom constantly without meditation in the disc tree
>>585761967NOOOOOOO BUT WHEN I IMMIGRATED HERE THEY TOLD ME ID BE EQUAL
>>585761870>OSRS you can go on epic quests solo or party that takes very long to completeyou mean do raids to rmt or ironman then get the tbow grind then deiron and quit
>>585762031They are not doing full blown talent reworks this close to launch lmao
Elemental shaman status: huffing copium once againperhaps lava burst will fuck right off!
WATCH TIMEhttps://youtu.be/S_UcD-Q_37U
anyone have a week code?
>>585752089idk I use my brothers dualshock from ps4 for games
>>585762298show me less of this content
>>585762031>>585762282>some fag is so thrilled that he randomly guessed 2 obvious racial changes that he is now spamming his old post in every thread.
>>585762267
Can I take a rogue or war spot with this build?
>>585762298>weget this fucking fat balding retoilet grifter out of my thread
>>585762407are you saying there isn't any hope for ele sham changes?
So is HPal supposed to be a hybrid DPS/healer now or something? What the fuck is the spec supposed to be?
>>585762282God damn, get rid of fucking lava burst. No one wants this stupid fucking meatball.
Rogue or warlock
>>585762565Whorelock
>>5857623035J5B-D3DC-H8XCM-8FKC-3BKV
>>585762282surprised he didn't guess the 3% to 2% haste it was blatantly obvious it was too p2w so they would tone it down just enough where it's still p2w but not enough anymore since they "nerfed" it
>>585762508the devs don't know
>>585761371That they would eventually do something good by pure chance?
why does horde get new sky elf shamans, but alliance doesn't get night elf paladins
>>585762662Stop dodging the question by being vague. What specifically would you have changed or added to make Classic+ good?
>>585760228A disgustingly vile, obviously stench-ridden, hunchbacked, shoeless, stubtoed NIGGER? Only irl shitskins play horde.White people play only Alliance
>>585762472>feral instinct>thick hidenever
>*one shots you*
>>585762826how you gon da that when im on a Normal realm cuz
>>585762728They can't give night elf paladin cause I can only get so hard
>>585762643i was too slow. thanks anyway, anon. trying to put one on my spare account so i can convince my OSRS friend to play with me
>>585762728Because Night Elf Paladin makes 0 sense based on their lore. The only militarization of their religious order were a bunch of archers, not plate wielding knights.
>>585762910Why do you have something like that saved on your computer?
zirene posting here bros
>removing human diplomacyfor what purpose???
>>585762910please commit suicide.
now have to decide which makes me cringe more, a server full of streamer fanboys or a server full of reddit fags making cow jokes. leaning towards human spriest now but bg queue times concern me.
>>585762472jfc how much bullshit does that website need to fit into their talent calculator its like they're planning to IPO
NEW UPDATE JUST DROPPED
>>585762910MR ADVERTISER, IM SCARED
i'm not going to use a quest guide but i will make sure i have all quests for dungeons that give loot or are easy to complete before i run them
You're running out of time to pick your server/class/race/name ~
they fixed dwarfs this is the greatest day in my life
>>585762826isnt it cucked reckoning? so only double hit
>>585762910average drawrf player
>>585762910i have no idea who this is supposed to appeal to
>>585763267Just use dungeonjournal. It is like atlasloot that also shows you all the dungeon quests.
>>585763140"hey gwok, fill out a landing page for my website that had details for wow forever, be vewy detaiwed pwease"
>>585762472Why not just roll a rogue or mage?
>>585763374female gamers
>>585763294Nope, they reverted the nerf. Stores up to 4 extra attacks.
>alliance Skyborne received 5 nerfs in one post. Their ability is now 60 times weaker, nerfed by 98.3% or by magnitude of 2 which must be some sort of world record for WoWWelp it seems every race and class I want to play in Forever is unbearably dogshit.
>>585763107people been tellin me ally bg que times will be fine
I like the virtue signal to others that I don't use a quest guide but I can't level without one
>>585763374women
i play troll because if you paint me blue they're literally me
>>585763527and it's still infinitely stronger than the worthless horde skyborne
>>585763107moooooooooo
The data on the race/class combos is so fucking grim lads...After reading the fine print at the bottom that details how the sims were run, it appears that skelves will be the top race for dps.
>>585763374me
>>585763603You have a heel nail?
BLIZZARD!GIVE ME OGRES!!!AND MY LIFE IS YOUR'S!!!
>>585763505ah shitback to spamming /sit on some cat
>>585763665two weeks ago blue elves were the absolute worst.play what you want.
>orcs complaining human gets 2% crit while they get 1%>cheekily ignoring that they get a fucking 10% damage active>human gets their 2% nerfed>orc loses their 1% and gets something uselessLmao get fucked zug zugs
>>585763286RP PVP, Hunter and Paladin, Human, and I've got the names picked out.
I don't want to spend 150 hours of my life leveling
>>585763739you'll get moknathal and you'll like it
>>585763716don't deformity-shame me
Reminder to breed sexelves
>>585760228>rolling the most cucked version of trollcouldn't be me
So for healers you’re gonna need 2 shamans, 2 paladin and ONLY 1 priest? This doesn’t seem fair…
im going to roll gnome warlock and summon doomguards in MC PUGs
>>585761670>but I don't know how it fits the idea of racial identify.That pet damage racial is from vanilla. They had it for ages. In WC3, they rode various beasts. Wolves, kodos, wyverns. That's the flavor.Also, almost anything can be a mage. There are like 10 million mage variants in the game belonging to retarded creep races like kobold, trogg, murloc, etc.
>>58576363515% movement speed is a joke I agree but 30% movement speed is considerable in both PvP and PvE and I'd pick it over the gutted read leylines in an instant for my warrior. I assume they will disable the hour long buff in instanced content anyway which will make Skyborne the most dogshit race for both factions in the game.
>>585763901Would the baby come out as a skyhuman?
>>585763665LOL Blizzard saw those comments about their pay2play class being shit with crap racials and took advantage of the community outcry about the sorry state to tauren and dwarf racials and made skyborne pay2win, shameless kikery
Human or gnome warlock?
Mmmyepstill going human female redhead warlockstill taking the felhound knot at campsites
95G5-BMBL-FBDKS-GBPF-HD4DCHCK-MFKH-4NFMQ-XVM4-X6GGH8G6-FLQS-SNCCX-NXBC-D9KKi dont have friends so hopefully some anons can get use out of this, enjoy
>>585763901her poor baby will starve
>>585764006guhnome
>>585763792The problem is that it sets a precedent for p2w pay pigs for every upcoming race or class they decide to add that is guaranteed to be locked behind a paywall.
>>585763982always the mothers race, unless it's beastiality (dragons ect).
>6 ft>chad>intelligent >wife>kids>OIL investor>20+ year old blizzard account>been playing since original bnet Yes, I’m rolling (female) Skyborn Druid. Shitskins (specifically jeets), bug people, white incels (assmoniggers), niggers and trannies can stick with Alliance.
>>585764027Blessed
>>585762298He's gotten so fat. It's sad to see.
>Some players have expressed that some of the new racial traits feel too generic, while others have raised concerns that some are objectively stronger than others>Endurance no longer provides any modifiers beyond 5% increased Health (no hit chance or critical damage modifiers)>Plainsrunning no longer increases mounted movement speedNo matter how much you nerf tauren I will still play as one.
Night elf rogue or gnome priest? Best for fun and best for erp?
>>585762615no that'll be my druid
>>585764094>sell new races with new combinations that are strictly superior>eventually sell boosts againI can see the enshittening.
Will this be the best team comp for endgame?
>>585764027Thank you!
>Yes, I’m rolling (female) Skyborn Druid. Shitskins (specifically jeets), bug people, white incels (assmoniggers), niggers and trannies can stick with Alliance.
>>585764143based 40yr old crackhead larper
>>585764027are these useless if you already pay a sub
I finally decided on going PvP, pretty confident about that too.When are the times you actually get ganked?>While levelling,ok just have some defensive flasks on you and run away or log to an alt for 10 mins.>When you are out gathering stuff.ok my mining/herb gatherer alt is going to be prot paladin, while others will run druid or rogue or some shit. Good luck wasting your time on me. Also stop hitting yourself kek. Effectivly the same as gathering on pve.>When you walk to a raid.Adds some time to get to the raid sometimes, but i will prep warlock summon alts and pvp players tend to be faster in raids anyway. Its also only once a week.You mitigate most of these scenarios once you got your characters set up. You may say to just go pve then, but you are missing out on watching the gankers hit a wall on your preparedness.
>>585764281jeets dont play vidya
>>585764338Yes.
So is the name meta tomorrow to get a cool name that uses both first and second or no
>>585763859with legacy shit being in the game its not gonna be 150 even on a main they clearly want this shit to be fairly alt friendly
>>585764027Thank you kind anon
>>585764264>holy paladinsThey might as well be DPS.
>>585764356you're overthinking it
>>585764356I hope you will never level an alt.
>>585764407instead of what? just getting one second name?
>>585764264I don’t see any hunters who can buff range damage.
>>585764407There is a bug to do it early so a lot of the good names are already gone
>>585764438Unless you in your adult years thinks its still hilarious to be named poopbutt stickyshits yes, I'd go with a name you think might be cool to see
>>585764407brown
>>585764407The meta is to be as edgey as possible without getting banned.
>>585764516HUHIS THIS TRUE
>>585762910Cuntboys are hot when they look feminine.
>>585764356i find that people just wanna get their quests done and don't really gank on launch. enless you're stuck in the zerg then its prob gonna be a shitshow
>>585764515There's literally one class in the game right now that would benefit from Trueshot Aura. Take a wild guess which one that is.
>>585764374ok
I still can't think of a last name for my orc resto shaman... Can I get some help?
>>585764607thats just called a... you know what, nevermind
>>585764407>sneak racial slur into name>nobody noticed in betaGuess it’s my mains name, FOREVER.
>>585763374people that hate women but want to fuck a biohole
>>585764471I will level at least 8 alts, so 9 chars total for legacy points and as alchemy bots. Once I got the cash i equp them with a bunch of escape tools. If people crash out and find it hard to level alts, good for me, less supply on my crafts :^)>>585764613i think so too, i hope that lasts for long enough for me to get my alts up, but if not, oh well.
>>585764625Mages and Warlock?
>>585764625druid
>>585763972Yeah but they had weapon skill too. Which was nerfed and now removed entirely for a terrible defensive cooldown that removes a curse(an instant cast spell) Get rid of shatter curse since it’s been made worthless anyway, 1% crit is obviously better.
>>585764524>poopbutt stickyshitsclose but its dingleberry dan
>>585762778Don't work up a sweat bro, you replied to a different personNo one is gonna sit down and autism out for you on a huge essaypost on a tranny board, but you can just go look at the tone and vision of Epoch's changes and extrapolate what that might look like with a AAA budget
>>585764147>Spent money on hair transplant>gets fat
>>585764661Ftm femboy is what you're looking for.
>>585763286I've already picked everything out I just need my human male
What addons do you think will be worth a shit in Forever? I really only care about things that make crafting/auctions easier as far as value goes and knowing which quests lead to dungeon quests. I've heard there's some addon that voices all the quest stuff but AI voices seems like a turn off.
>>585764653addwowtoken
>>585764721>dingleberry Dan>it’s a Dwarf Shaman
now that every class/race combo in the game sucks except OG alliance and Tauren hunter, what race do i go for with my arcane mage.
>>585764762>knowing which quests lead to dungeon questsDungeon Journal.>addon that voices all the quest stuff but AI voices seems like a turn off.Spoken, it's pretty good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8DMDRhU7vI
>>585764713>thinking you'll ever need to wand in raids anymore with all the "gain mana while casting" talents>>585764714Anon...
is warlock fun in pvpbe REAL
>>585764515Hunters are needed when a dps couldn’t make a raid that night.
now human isn't the top dps race anymorehow is this balanced?
>>585764407the meta is John + somethinglike John Arcane or John Stabby or John Warcraft
>>585764890raids will lust for you, less people play it on pvp servers.
>>585764890winning is fun
>>585764890its pretty bad against rogues, like youre gonna lose most times unless the rogue is shit. but warlocks to big damage and really good if you got a disc priest to pocket you
>>585764661You heard me.
>>585764890sure if you like dotting people and having no mobility but good cc
>>585764595Yes you could bypass the realm selector and get in. its fixed now
>>585763527You're a dumbass if you thought 15 minutes innervate racial was going to stay in the game
>>585764890Boring as fuck you mean.>dot >dot>dot>fear>dot>drain life
>>585765029I am always ready to succ rogues if you catch my drift.
is there a single person who thinks megaservers are a positive thing
>>585764832ORC MAGE ! might aswell go full retard at this point
>>585765127Yes
Priest or resto shaman for group pvp? Which is better?
>>585765120i feel u
>>585765127Maybe your bait posts would work better if you didn't attach a cat image each time.
>>585765120How when you’re expected to have felhunter our for PvP.
>>585765195kill them for me
>>585764890do you mind pet microdo you mind 0 mobility (but better rundown than something like pally or priest)if you answered no to both the above questions it's quite fun IF you keep your gear up to par
>>585765127Stop torturing cats.
>>585765224this. cat posts are never worth reading, they're always blatantly low effort bait.
>>585760816>already played classic for thousands of hours>bringing two friends along who are new>wont be using the goy arrow or any of that gay shit, just playing the game, exploring, and killing noshoe niggers>will raid lead at 60 and give them the best wow experience possiblegonna be a fun time
>>585765269Whats rundown
>>585765362Based groomer
>>585762910You are a stain on humanity.
What are my chances of playing Alliance on day 1 in EU if I haven't bought the beta?
>>585765378how easy it is to chase someone that's trying to get away from youCoEx does a lot of work here but you yourself will never be able to escape from anything, fight or die
>>585765362They will play for 3 weeks then quit.
>>585764356wtf is that map
>>585765378
Couple of questions:What ruleset should I choose? I just want to play with most common one with the greatest potential for other people to be on the same one as me.I don't have an active subscription but I bought the skyborne pack with 30 days game time that activate on release. Do I need to subscribe to get access to the name reservation?
>>585765204Shaman has a better more mana efficient group heal, Tremor totem and grounding totems.
>>585765505looks like spiderman jizzed on it
>>585765492looking grim. even pvp has more alliance and alliance has better racials.
I only care about racials for their use in world PvP. Raid and dungeon dps means fuck all.
>go on YouTube>feed filled with the most basic WoW Forever (classic coded) videosThese “creators” are looking up old classic videos and passing them as “DO THIS IN FOREVER.” It’s all grifters now. I’m so bothered by it now I just spam them with comments calling them faggots. These people don’t realize that level 60 item drops will probably completely change people’s classes with new playstyles.
>>585765362your friends will get bored before level 20
>>585765492see u in durotar my nigger
>>585765493Easy if you’re able to read they’re about to run, hard if you can’t. That being said chances are the dots would kill them.
>>585763972I'm referring to blizzards own justification for changes. Is racial identity really the goal or is it "well anything can fit"? At the moment it feels like blizzard is talking out of both sides of its mouth.They say in their post they're "prioritizing racial identity" which clearly hasn't been a strict goal when they added orc mages. Orc mages are shaman and warlocks. There are no orc mages anywhere in wow lore and don't fit their identity at any point. So the change is purely just an orc nerf. They take a racial that benefitted every class and change it to one that shaman, rogues, warriors, mages and 2 of 3 lock specs won't use. So it's just a random nerf they pulled out of their ass 9 days before launch for seemingly no reason.
>>585763972>Also, almost anything can be a mageSure, but maybe the race whose entire culture and religion revolves around NOT enslaving the elements shouldn't be a mage. Orc mage is far far more retarded lorewise than UD pally and anyone not mad about it is a lorelet.
Cant wait till the patch notes pre launch. Its going to be as aimless as all the fuckery with the racials.
Let rogues pick pocket enemy players
>>585761318Ork warlock makes more sense than an human warlock. Why would humans ever collaborate with demons in the first place after the 3rd war? Are they trying to have another midevh fiasco?
>>585765091what are the chances>ha haor>he he is taken
>>585765713Mage spells are all Arcane, they aren't tied to the Elemental Spirits.
human or nelf healer priestim permalocked and orch'd by the way
>>585765751>pick pockets playerIt’s pocket sand
>>585765772Human warlock instead of hunter was a bizarre choice
SOMEBODY STOP HIM
>>585765751This would be very cool and soulful imo
>>585765772>why would anyone seek the power to summon minions and burn people alive with magicgee I fucking wonder
>>585765665my favorites are the “THIS IS HOW YOU LEVEL 1-60” like yeah nigger this guides gonna age great
>>585764407Desu Desu
are they going to make Prot Paladin viable? or will I be screwed if I roll one with the intent of raid tanking?
>>585765885Because you'd get fucking executed and not allowed into the alliance?
>>585765492you will wear no shoes
>>585765874h-he's fast!
>>585765874>omw to windfury your mom
>>585765751Or just remove preparation from the fucking game forever.
>>585765874thats clearly a female tauren
>>585762298not waching this N- sellout, gtfo
>>585765874
>>585765936They will probably fix it, but it won't be as good as warrior or druid tank.
>>585765885That’s really not how it works because you can justify any individual of any race pursuing any class and just remove class restrictions which if that’s your argument I’d rather you’d say that up front
>>585765874>Nature's Swiftness>Entangling Roots
>ruins hardcore>and will be 10g each because of tauren cultivation
>>585765936Prot war and bear are miles better.Some casual dad guild may take in a prot pala.
>>585765885Yes power is great and all but it also brought the orks to raise stormwind. Come on now. Theres very few human warlocks that are even notable besides the one that doomed multiple human occupied lands.
>>585765874We should get 200% speed.
ban hr/srban raid pugs
Does Blizzard hates horde?
>>585766079all the original flasks have been removed bwo
I only want to play cute night elf girlsDruid, Hunter, warrior, priest. I dont care as long as im a cute night elf girl.
>>585766183ohh reary??
>>585766157>ban raid pugsraid pugs are the most fun ive ever had in this stupid game. i used to join mc pugs for shits and giggles
>>585765553PVE will have the most players
>>585766091There’s few notable warlocks in general. If every class has a key hero character inspiration then warlock’s is Gul Dan lmao
>>585766079thats the kind of shit i will put on my alts. gankers got no chance. rogues on suicide watch.
>>585766190Based, sis!
>>585766190Are you cute IRL thought?
the racials are actually perfect now
>>585765576T. priest main
alliance having stronger pvp racials is normal and good for the game
>>585765942that's why all the warlock trainers are in dark corners or basements
>>585766079>petri>leave raid>log outWhy not just let you hearth? Why did they make it so convoluted? Why just add a cool super rare BoP item in a random dungeon like something akin to “escape rope”. Maybe give it like a 45day cooldown or something crazy. Or have a gnomish or goblin engineering device that has a high failure chance with it being a stun with a minuscule chance to escape a raid or dungeon?
>>585766079They need to take that shit out of hc, every single hc clip is just them all using this. I can understand keeping it in original hc because hc wasnt built around perma death so some fights had bullshit that would just kill you like the ogre death punch or putting the healer on the sacrificial alter in dm. This time though they're remaking shit and clearly know hc is a major appeal to players so they should design stuff around not randomly killing people.
>>585765492Pre-order now for your EXCLUSIVE digital deluxe items orhttps://litter.catbox.moe/7ade0g.mp4
>>585766163No, just the cows.
>>585766408>Walk into town with a demonYeah bro nice justification
>>585766448>>585766428it's only broken because of the 60 second timeout after you leave a group (this was not in vanilla btw!)
>hordecel victim parade all over wowhead and reddit
>>585766163Yeah devs got ganged too much by shamans and rogues in original classic.
>>585766080>cant tank>cant heal>cant dpswhats the point of paladin
>>585766527i've seen that payo guy abuse it in the open world when he was going to be killed in gurabashi arena
Best race for tanking warrior on alliance? Answer me true.
>>585765237Casters can get succed tooI'll succ anyone >but muh wotfGet succed again idiot
>>585766448it killed any interest i had in watching hc content besides griefing like tiny violin or that fucker that would summon a second parrot on the rogue lockpickig quest
>>585766535It's just a flood of brown people
So.. when are we getting wow tokens?
>>585766491>>Walk into town with a demonLong time ago when I used to play on RP servers people would dismiss their demons before walking around town. Obviously they aren't going to make your class KoS to your own guards for gameplay reasons
Who even is blud
>>585766621Either nelves for the dodge bonus or dwarves for the bleed remove skill.
>>585766705Lmao
>>585765029>>585765237>-1.8 seconds on stun opener because orc>gets death coiled and dotted upThis is all assuming you can even get the opener with the felhunter and the new legacy talent for stealth detection. No idea where this idea that rogues do good against a class that takes 40% less damage. Also FaP. Also pic related or the speed boost.
>>585765874>>585766705Who would win?
>>585766621dwarf racial gives hit% nowdwarf prot warrior will be MT meta
>>585766190>im aywnb
blizzard sucks but im glad they listen to the best players and not some random niggers on an anime site
>>585766535>WAHHHHHHH WE AREN'T THE BEST BY A WIDE MARGIN IN EVERY SINGLE REGARD ANYMORE BLIZZARD IS ASS RAPING UShorde players deserve to be castrated
>>585766771Two sides of the same coin. But if I had to choose between a cowman and an owlbear...
>hordeniggers don't have superior pvp racials across the board for the first time in 20 years>proceed to piss and shit themselves while cryingWhat a faggot faction
>>585766535i mean the changes to Horde racials were all nerfs.
>>585766769i need to check out all the new stuff for engi, that blink seems really good
>>585766163why do people keep saying this when the tranny elves that can be any faction are the best.
>>585766787It might be night elf, 10% crit will let them get a solid threat lead and allow everyone to pump more
What addons do I need for healing? I'm playing priest and I haven't felt the need to download anything during the beta
does a shaman even want maelstrom weapon
>>585766842As they should be. In fact they're 22 years too late with the nerfs.
>>585763901that baby is green
>>585766965go to bed swiftyNE prot MT is never happening
What addon will uncover the whole map for me, but not do anything else if I dont want it to?
Orks look better as locks
>>585766972play druid or shaman instead, i am sure it will be a tough choice for you cause they are both so good.
>we dont want any races to have hit % advantage>remove it from tauren>give it to dwarfthese devs man
>>585766972I think all incoming heals are broadcasted now, so probably none desu
I'm only wasting my time with warcraft again because the world is ending soon
Y'all is EXHAUSTING can y'all just stop demanding they give a good game I SWEAR y'all just complain n shit its EXHAUSTING. I'm MUTING this subreddit y'all....
>>585761085>duo compsdo u think this is tbc?
>>585766239Hard agree, it's like sightseeing Walmart at 11pm, weirdest collection of human beans, blatant afkers, keyboard turners, kids, their grandmas, dude who pastes in chat 7-page long guides to bosses from 2005, dude who is arguing with RL about loot, two erping gnome rogues in stealth and multiple wipes on each boss due to hunter pet ninjapull
I decided to just go human male again, why am I so boring...
>>585766816didnt they all get dabbed on by complete randoms in the duelling tournaments, which is why esfat decided to host this time to spare himself the humiliation
>>585766838Are you saying people played loser side for 20 years? Damn they stupid!
>>585762790post hand
>>585767214If that's the aesthetic you enjoy then it's the right choice anon. Ignore anyone who disagrees, you're the one playing the character
>>585767214Why not go human male? They arguably have the easiest time leveling.
>>585767262horde nigger trying to clap back in broken englishyup, it's kino
>>585767158It's the best it's ever been for Alliance.
>>585767314ogre pov
>>585767345Thank you for confirming my question
>>585767098Didn't ask>>585767115Yeah same feeling here. The updated UI is pretty useful. Haven't had any issues with it.
>>585767181>multiple wipes on each boss due to hunter pet ninjapulli am not memeing when i say the most fun i ever had in wow were 4+ hour long MC runs, where like one guy had the dousing quest done, and we had to send out a lock group to keep resummoning him back to MC
>>585767262Alliance has been the dominate pvp faction for a long time. Anyone saying Horde has held that title this whole time does not play the fucking game.
>>585767106based, fuck horde
>>585766535>>585766818>>585766838>>585766982WotLK says hello
>>585766647They're really not beating the allegations
>>585767294It was either human or undead for me until someone posted a picture of an undead in tier looking like a weird hunched stick figure
>>585767214You are your character
Optimal class and race for handouts
>>585767314>decided go to human male>why not go human malegoon brain everyone
what's the most African race/class combo?what's the most Icelandic race/class combo?
>>585767407I didn't like the default raid frames much, so maybe just a different grid addon
>People here constantly complain about how the racials suck and need to be changed>They complain even more when the racials get changed to be more useful instead of niche shitSo what do you want then?
>>585760228>>585761354I like the look of trolls, but I really don't care for their combat animations.
>>585767476Human male paladinHuman female mage
>>585767460gnome mage
>>585767429your point being?
>>585767460used to be dwarf priest, but blizz hates fun
>>585767454I just cant take undead paladin seriously, its a meme combo
>>585767412lol, sometimes it was so bad we had pugs offering extra SRs to dousehavers
>>585767419yea alright
>>585767494>They complain even more when the racials get changed to be more useful instead of niche shitYeah, taking away orcs crit and giving them pet damage sure isn't niche shit. Taurens losing their 1% hit sure was useful too.
>>585767494They want to complain, just like women.
I only play the characters that look the most cool on the loading screen
>>585766972The built in dps meters and ability to customise frames means you dont need any addons. I can see which dps is retarded and do mouseover stuff no problem.
>what's the most Icelandic race/class combo?HUMANMALEWARRIOR
>>585767429Like clockwork. Meanwhile horde had aoe stun, aoe silence, wotf and stun resist. Like I said, across the board better pvp racials. Stupid ass hordenigger
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>>585767671I'm mad they removed the old loading screens for shit that looks like it was ai generated and you can't use the old ones.
Shaman or Priest if I want to PvE as healer but DPS in PVP?
>>585767734>humanNot quite...
Hated ElvUI and never used it in 20 years, absolutely addicted to tweaking Ellesmere, wtf happened to me..
Cows and trolls need a small dps buff. There I said it.
If only orc females had good animations they are kinda boring
>>585767612I'm probably just going to try to recreate the WC3 paladin face and pretend im the actual hero unit.
>9 classes>alliance races are best at every class and specnice balance lmao
>>585767476troll shamannight elf druid
>>585767862I play a boy tauren so please say bulls
>>585767871>made nelf expecting i could get that armori was dissapointed when i found out it wasnt real
>>585767862nah trolls hp regen is busted
So if barbershops exist, I should just make a character quickly to reserve a name faster?
>>585767671Female undead priest and male dwarf hunter?
>>585768048yup
zug zug
>>585768048Yes you can worry about your looks later
>>585768048you can just insta create and then later delete and edit at 2am when no one is trying to snipe your name
>>585768049Female gnome mage and Dwarf male hunter were my first couple characters as a kid
>>585768107dabu
stressing out about people taking my gay ass name that only i would use
>>585767949Tauren have never been more castrated.Actual steer, only born to be eaten up.
>>585767852>daughter of HallgrimWait does Icelandic work like Arabic where you don't have last names but rather your name is just a worded chain of your lineage?
This is the ideal raid comp. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
Shockadin are about to be the most powerful class spec combo in the game and you little faggots can screenshot and quote me on this. You're asshole is mine.
>>585760585which was already nerfed once
I wanted to play as a tauren warrior but dwarves look good too and they aren't cucked with their racials.Imagine having a talent to pick herbs every 15 minutes but you can detect herb nodes.
>>585768206What's putting combat above sub or sin?
>>585768206>No melee hunters kek
>>585766972You don't really. You can make your own mouseover macros so you can mouseover buff and heal without being in the targets party but thats a world/niche case. I haven't tried modifying the built in party/raid frames too much outside class color, power bars etc.If I can't edit the buff/debuff size and behavior of the built in frames I'll use Vuhdo which is still the best raid frame for healing.
>>585768206>keeps editing his comp because theres something wrong with it every timeyou'll get it right next time
what changes we expecting in the final final final racial update
>>585768206>2 prot warThe meta for 20 man will be one prot war main tank and one feral off-tank. You really suck at this.
>>585768206You can replace one of the prot war with a prot pally, then add in another rogue.
>>585768206>no restro druidhas the highest heal output, battle res, hots to keep the raid alivealso lmao at holy paladin
>>585768206
>>585768206u r not taking 2 prot wariors u retard offtank is feral its also probably arcane mage as they have stronger aoe and 1 warlock also no hunter lol? prob 2 rets? do you need 3 blessings i forgot
>>585768037I really want to try the troll warlock hp regen thing. Looks really fun. But as a no fun tryhard I'm probably just playing orc.
>>585767830Priest
>>585768134AI will be used this time around to try and snipe super popular names 24/7 till launch. People will probably have programs running all day long that attempt to snipe sellable names. If you get a name after picking your race/class dont delete it. The barber in Forever can change everything like in retail.
>>585768206You need at least 2 hunters for damage reduction.
>>585767919And only now do Alliance players say the racials are peefect and to stop talking about them. Funny isnt it?
>>585768206nah, my raid will be 1 feral druid and 1 prot/ret offtank/dpswith whatever the fuck else we can get and some healers
>>585768206>ret paladina>raidingl m a o
>>585768394>>585768468He is some brown warrior and admitting anything but warriors can tank hurts his izzat which is also why he stacked warrior dps.
>>585768406Healing is the least important thing for a healer. Any healer can heal. What matters is the unique buffs it can bring. Resto Druid brings nothing that wouldnt be covered by the mandatory Balance/Feral druids.
>>585768468>offtank is feral
>>585768715what is prot warrior doing on 1 tank boss ? feral actually does dps prot warrior doesnt
>>585768206sorry lil gup but battle shout is raidwide now so we only need 1 warrior and it might as well be a tank
>PvP vs PvEThe fuck? Also the player count pretty equal. PvP is not as popular as I thought it would be.
>>585768559I read that theres a 30 day lock to your toons name (for other people) if you delete it, think that'll be the same for level 1 name reservations?
>>585768685people make mistakes, dps will pull adds. the ability to put a hot on your entire raid is really god insurance and raid leaders want that.If your raid wipes too much it will fall apart and your optimized comp wont do shit.
>>585768715An offtank druid can swap to cat forms and do 95% the damage of a normal dps. A prot specced prot cant.
>>585768738Good thing there's that thing called Dual Spec
Accidentally got addicted to sissy hypno and now I look like this please help me
>>585768814Yeah man that ai website saying dwarf shaman is the most played class is super believable.
>>585768823People playing in an optimized comp would presumably be good at the game and not make mistakes
>>585768814>b-b-but Horde is the pvp faction!lol
>>585768206>all combatpoison bros...
What's the point of Spirit buffs on non-healer classes?
>>585768738>what is prot warrior doing on 1 tank boss ?getting ready to jump in if MT dies... is this a serious question?> feral actually does dps prot warrior doesntokay ESL but the point of an OT is not to do dps, that's the dps's job
>>585768814>most played>dwarf shamanyou couldnt pay me to believe this
>>585768198It's not a chain, it's just their mother or father. Other scandi countries stopped doing this because having 20% of your country be svensson is retarded
>>585768909Out of combat regen keeps you going between pulls. No need to eat and drink constantly between mobs
>>585768814This site is a completely broken meme. It flip flops massively each day on its ratios. Anyone with a brain knows its going to be Alliance leaning now.
>>585768880Combat is fucking lame and gay compared to assa/sub
>The real faction balance on anniversary PvP is 20:80 A:HHow retarded are alliance PvP players exactly
>>585768873so do you plan on speedrunning in a top guild? Because most raids just want the clear with a certain level of certainty.
>>585768206missing the 15% spirit buff from spriest in healer group
>>585768817Depends on how they implement it, in anniversary it was level based - 90 days for level 60, 30 for level 20 and instant for level 1
>>585768869what you rolling in wow forever?
>>585768870You have the level range set from 1 to 30 you silly *smooch*
>>585768869My wives :3
>>585768981Why would anyone care about the metrics of a dead game?
>>585768909Spirit increases mana regeneration on all mana using classes. It increases HP regeneration on everyone, but thats only really noticeable while leveling. It may seem strange, but putting Divine Spirit on a Warrior at low level is almost like putting a 60 minute renew on them when out of combat.
>>585768981How long were the bg queues for horde? 30min vs instant for alliance?
>>585768814>more horde on pve then allythis isnt real
>>585769050Male human warrior
>>585768991Even casual dadguilds minmax their comps these days
>>585768814PvP was artificially inflated due to all the paeasocials wanting to play with their streamers and tournament andies, going to get a ghost town on release
>>585769138pvp realms have consistently been more popular than pve throughout the entire history of the games existence.
Forsaken Paladins run this fucking general
There should be no PvE option, the world would be much more alive if they shoved everyone into one ruleset, plus hardcore
What if I could make Jeanne a hunter pet
>more racial balancing>might get another one before nov 4th too
>>585767734>displaying icelanders as chadsThey created EVE Online, that alone should be a sign of the degeneracy of their society.>>585768956Shame. One of the few things I like about Arabic is that your name is a living documentation of your family line and often even what city your family comes from.
How do we cope with the fact that people enjoy the game in different ways? Why do we feel the need to tell others how they should play, and why does it make us uncomfortable when they refuse?
I would be okay if there were no racial based around stats.
>>585769135sissy irl but alpha in game
>>585769195yeah and in recent years it goes to 99:1 factions so your basically on a pve realm i hated it in mop.
>>585769138asmon is taking his horde to pve for launch, mashallah
>>585768909Don't some casters and melee enjoy a bit of spirit regen now since they get some regen whilst casting? Like enhance and spriest etc.
>>585769260We're definitely getting another one, along with class rebalance since people are complaining so much.
>>585769223Just add rape mechanics to the game while we're at it
>>585769279Racials shouldn't have any damage bonuses, they should just be cosmetic.
>>585769260The post said "final pass". They probably dont wanna make any changes after the name reservation since people are reserving race themed names.
>>585768738>>585768917nobody is doing that in a speedrun, this is a minmaxed speedrun comp.feral swaps between dps and tank with no need to change spec fine prot warrior does not, retards. You're also ignoring gearing a prot warrior/dps warr os will have no gear prio for dps at all and feral will have everything
>>585769195trvke solar flare. pvp is the de facto gamemode
Remove all racialsLet players pick 2 passives and 2 actives on character creation and call them perks
>tfw no holy paladin GF in suspiciously slutty transmog
>>585769324to the victor goes the spoils… *gulp*
>>585769274I cope by telling the devs to make their way of playing less viable, like with dungeon spam. That was my idea. It was me, Barry.
>>585769136i played in a dad guild in wow classic until we inevitably fell apart midway through AQwe had a pretty normal roster, but we had 1 ret paladin and 1 feral druid who were very vocal about being novelties. they both branded themselves as quirky mascots of our raid team. these classes/specs attract a certain kind of personality. an obnoxious one.
>>585769274Everything I say is right
>>585769368The purists would never allow this
>>585768847>look at minmaxed comp>thinks people are waiting to do spec change
>>585746624RP or PVE? I will not commit to a raiding schedule
>>585769293~hon-hon-hons in le EU
>>585769368people might pick orc shaman in that case, blizzard doesn't want that.
>>585769448the purists are still on era
>>585769365>minmaxed speedrun comp
pve server players are gonna be stuck with the asmon jeets lmao
>>585769536There are people that really dislike the idea of warlocks having stackable shards.
>>585768962>Out of combat regen keeps you going between pulls.*life taps to 5% hp**casts shadowbolt 0.1ms after hunter pulls*
>>585766965Nelf warr will be great for fury dps. Shadowmeld acting as a threat drop like feign death means they should never have to throttle their dps to watch their threat if they can just clear it with their racial.
>>585760228Without fail, every single retarded person I ever group with in a dungeon is a Troll. I actually discriminate against inviting Trolls, especially Troll Hunter. Being a Troll Hunter is pretty much a guarantee that that person is retarded.
>>585769365I know you're larping because actual speedrunners are focused on theorycrafting the fastest way to hit 60, not worrying about raid comps.
They really need to add campaigns and war based objects to the game, like being sent out to capture resources or areas, attacking cities
will warlocks or shamans be less played on alliance pve/rp?
>>585769775Overlord Forever
>>585769637i refuse to believe those people are real and not just some subhumans farming engagement
>>585769536every era player got 9/9 10/10 t3 and quit years ago
>>585769337>"Actually we needed to make some very slight adjustments, gomenasorry!"
>>585769780alliance pvp/rppvp is notorious for having dismally low warlock players
>>585761190If that same racial were put into vanilla WoW it would be pretty good though. There was just a lot of power level creep since then and everybody got a lot of mobility abilities.
new zone idea: big booty bay
Reminder that if you aren't minmaxxing and speedrunning you aren't playing wow correctly. Its just facts.
>>585769780probably still warlock, just because everyone knows shamans will get free raid spots
I heard that they’re bringing back J’Lor
>>585769892They'll buff alliance more, it'll be funny.
>>585769710Life tap is addicting
reminder that if arent 60 within the first 6 days then you aren't catching up
>>585769780Warlocks will be the least played class but shamans will be shoulder to shoulder with them.
>>585768917Kek you really are a retard.
>>585769945>must be an Orc or Tauren to enter
>>585770046>>585769991*taps sign*
>>585769753I healed some dungeons and twice there was a troll hunter whispering me to share some of my water. Truly the biggest bums.
>>585770102literally no sweaty guild is inviting you into their raid.
>>585770114Why is rogue so low? Seems strange…it’s a fun class, has lots of buttons and stuff to keep things fresh…unlike mahe
Night Elves should be able to move in shadowmeld as long as it's night in-game
I cannot go to any forever youtube video or website until this whole racial passive 'drama' is over. Holy fuck am I sick and tired of reading these absolute mongrel subhuman retards' posts about how X or Y is now "unplayable" because they're now doing 0.3% less dps than before. Blizzard needs to tell them all to shut the fuck up and stop being babies, it's genuinely pathetic. Most of them are fucking dadgamers too. Imagine being an adult and crashing out over this.
>>58576999120 man raids will for sure want 2 warlocks
>>585770236Only in PVP. In PVE it is by far the most boring class.
>>585770236>has lots of buttonsRogue is the opposite of that outside of pvp, you barely press any buttons in pve and the vast majority of your damage comes from auto-attacks.Plus side it also means it has a low skill ceiling, as long as you have good weapons and positioning you can kick your feet up and occassionally press buttons
>>585770297I like killing mobs with rogue…it’s like warrior but with faster attacks and resource regeneration…I think mage/warlock/whammy are the most boring classes /shrug
>>585770236Because some jeet made that with some bullshit he pulled off chat gpt, devs said rogues were going to be the best single target dps which made them sky rocket in played classes. Even ignoring that hunter is also hands down the most played class on both sides.
>>585770114>opinions surveyUseless data.Cloth dps will be the least played class again.
forsaken should have increased regen while on blighted ground
>>585770265>0.3%multiply that by 13taurens are doing 4% less dps than humans and dwarves
>jury summons up through 11/6I'm a disgusting neet how do I tell these bozos to frick off it's wow forever launch
>>585770534just don't go. as far as they're concerned it never even made it to your mailbox.
who else playing skyborne mage?
>>585770471wfie!
>>585770534have you tried telling them you're autistic
>>585770534call in sick
>>585770490good
>>585770238They weren't able to do that even in wc3
Bros what is the strat for reserving names?If I'm completely paranoid that a name I want will instantly go, do I not do any customization what so ever and instead just pick the race and class and secure the name ASAP without touching anything else?
>>585769962May I see the facts?
>>585770534I throw them in the trash
>>585770534ignore it
With human nerf should I go back to my original plan of Gnome Warrior?
>>585770534When you're asked in a roundabout way about jury nullification (because they can't directly ask about it, they always ask something like "have you ever had an issue with a law that might make it difficult for you to rule on?"), just say something about how you'd probably follow the law yourself but would have a hard time in good conscience being responsible for convicting someone else of a law I fundamentally disagree with.That's what I said and best part is I wasn't even bullshitting them, that's my actual position.
bruh how tf is name reservation real like dude just pick an original name lmao
>>585770490No class and race combo has anywhere close to a 4% dps difference (even if it did it still wouldn't matter). The largest discrepancy is for hunter where a tauren hunter does 1.83% less dps than a night elf hunter. Aside from that everyone is within 1.5% or less. You're chimping out over essentially nothing
>>585770952dont post pics of me
>horde already had a big disadvantage in terms of racials>finish them off with the latest patch noteslol
>>585770895People get hung up on racials yet sleep on different races base stats per class on character creation.
>>585770870playing anything other than guhnome is a mistake
>>585770895>dps difference was 1%>is now 1.5games unplayable
>>585761205ok so sell me on clover club
>>585771009made me smile seeing those patch notes
is the asmon guild actually going to be an issue for the alliance pve server? I'm a chud myself so idgaf about all that, just worried leveling as a human might be a nightmare with 100k of them flooding the zone and spamming.
>>585770952fucking disgusting
>>585771201He'll leave 2 months into the game when he gets bored and would rather read his tweet feed for 8 hours
>want to tank>im a faggotno one will ever take me or my fagcent seriously...
>>585770790yes now post more feet
Ya'll got anymore dem friend codes?
>>585771201chuds can't handle pvp lol
>>585771326Yes I still have all 3 but I'm afraid of posting them because bots will sweep them and try to sell them
>PvPcucks>Stuck to only playing one faction>Have to level using a PvP spec at all times>Have to min/max everything or you'll get mowed down by people who do>Hugely inflated AH prices>At the mercy of streamers, always playing second fiddle to themLolLmaoLiterally 0 upside to this shit. Hard pass from me, dog.
>>585770790lock in the name you want on the class you want and worry about character customization later at the barber
>>585771274obviously, but the first two months are the most fun and important.
Behold, the strongest race in the entire game, horde skelves. How are you ever going to compete with this anon?
Funny seeing hordeniggers start to scream for cosmetic only racials after they lost their advantages.
>>585771423Have fun raid logging then wondering why the game got so boring.
>>585771440Can you change every single aspect of your character at the barber, anon?
>>585771326P9NQ-QPBD-SG35G-56XK-RWJR
>>585771201Yes, they will be absolutely fucking everywhere. They were already everywhere on the paid beta and its going to be way way worse at launch.All the other streamers are going pvp alliance but honestly they're fucking nobodies with basically zero following. They don't have hundreds of people spamming chat 24/7 asking for the layer of esfand or whoever while having 10+ raid teams following them at all times like asmon.Just go pvp or rp if you want to play alliance.
why isn't there a profession that allows me to milk night elves?I'm sure it's more invigorating than a mana pot, and more nourishing than a health pot
>a tauren restoration druid joins your party>His name: John Goodberryhow safe do you feel?
How many WoW players are GTA players? Wondering what the player drop will be like on nov 19
>>585771529yeah, i was even able to change my gender on the beta
>>585771559damn look at those boobers
>>585771562Were gonna make it
>>585770952Alliance players....
>>585771485but enough about wow in its entirety
>it's now actually impossible to outrun a tauren chasing your ass down pre-60
>>585771619My femla- I mean femgnome looks like this
>>585771562feel like the group is in safe hands
>>585771680very cute, my gf looks like that when she wears her glasses
>>585771201It's going to be near unplayable until he quits. Not because they're chuds, but because they're insufferably obnoxious lowiq simps that worship a friend simulator
>>585771679You just hit him once and all the stacks are gone
I hope new races are real so I have more things to fuck
https://files.catbox.moe/ln2imf.webm
>>585771803Amen brother, and by fuck I mean pvp.
>>585771746I lost count of how many times they whispered me to join an Olympus guild WHEN I WAS ALREADY IN A GUILD. And god forbid you make an alt and don't have a guild yet, then it's an invite every 5 minutes
plainsrunning is legit going to cut the 1-60 grind down by about 10 hours.
>>585768817>toonkys
>>585771937ok andif you dont quit after 1 raid then 90% of your time is gonna be spent at 60
>tauren starts with 1% hit>get it taken away and replaced with 2% crit damage>dwarf also gets this same racial>next patch take BOTH of those away and give dwarf the 1% hit and tauren gets nothingwtf? Are they throwing darts at a board to decide what balance changes happen?
>>585771679just run to another zone to phase out while attacking him once in a while
>>585772083No, they're nerfing horde specifically while lightly tapping alliance.
how does dungeon loot work in foreverif a warrior rolls on lavishly jeweled ring can i try to yoink it to pass to the mage
>>585772026I don't care about losing 1% dps on babby tier raids
>>585772168technically yes, you can sell it to the mage in whispers
>>585771937>rushes to endgame despite leveling being the gameyou just wanna run dungeon/raid gear treadmill at 60 and play retail lite?
Please stop me from getting the belf pack on a second account just so I can reserve more names
>>585772083>stuns 400 enemies with my 90 sec cd while running 60% faster than all other races while tanking massive hits with my hp
>>585771937You overstimate it now that you can't keep it on by dribling 1 pxelUnless you play with restedxp auto loot into bag auto turn in auto accept quests you are literally never see it
>>585771937>t. didn't play tauren during the betaThe stacks are slow to build up and disappear fast after not moving some distance and instantly disappear when attacked.It will make the first trip to OG or badlands faster but once you get a mount you will never use that passive.
>>585772083people complained about homogenization, now theyre making races unique even if theyre not all "good" for every classthis soulful direction confuses and angers retoilet brained tbc and beyond players
>>585770952Average alliance player…
>>585772231You try this on me i'm reporting you for GDKP.
>>585770534Just say that you're incredibly racist and that it will have an impact on your judgement.
>>585772276Do it, reserve the names, then refund it before the beta 'ends'. You'll get to keep the reserved names.
>>585772303And they removed the mount buffCurious :)
>>585767065Orcs look best as every class they can be.
>>585772298You dont need to reach the peak 60% for it to have huge value. Just getting 2-10% bonus speed between mobs and like 10-20% between quests is big.
Im thinking about maybe going undead after the latest orc nerfs but i feel like im gonna regret it at 60 since touch of the grave won't scale with gear.mage btw
Maybe all these questionable changes are to just drum up discussion.
>>585772402I said technicallyIt's clearly a dick thing to do
Everyone wanking plainsrunning did not play a tauren in the beta. It's only useful for long distance traveling. It takes ages to fully stack and the moment you stop or have to fight anything the stacks fall off.
>speeds runs to 60>all the other 60 Hunter speedrunners can do dungeons until healers or Tanks catch up >have to wait for a UBRS key to even get attuned for OnyMfw I will never invite Hunters to any of my raids or groups like I’ve done since WOTLK.
>new thread every hourthis spamming is insane
>>585772605Touch of the grave still deals damage based on your hp. So it DOES scale with the stamina from your gear.
>>585772605Just play whatever you want holy shit lmao nobody outside of streamers and parsefags give a single fuck about you doing 1.1643% less DPS. And none of those people were ever going to play with you anyways.
>>585771882I guess the block olympus addon would solve most of those issues, might just have to grab that
>>585772647they also got rid of being able to jiggle or jump to maintain the stacks.
>>585772804I'm just going pvp, problem solved
>>585772751>these are the autist that ruin WoWJfc go back to retail
Why can't they just add regular servers with a pop cap of 2500 and force merge the low pop ones every night
People schizoing over racials tell me lv60 will be nothing but parsefaggots until january when they quit over lack of mythic+ and more dads getting into raiding
Plainsrunning is a lot less impressive when 3/4 classes Tauren can pick already have good movement abilities. Travel form, ghost wolf, and aspect of the cheetah. Plainsrunning is only beating these out on extremely long runs where you have time to fully stack it.
not playing ally, don’t care how many times the devs buff racials and release ally exclusive safety zones.
>>585772804little bluesky snowflake responsible for the fall of retail
>Go on youtube>see anything about how rogue works in Forever>"This is huge">"Why is no one talking about this...">"Did Blizzard just KILL this class?!">"We need to talk">"I'm done">“BLIZZARD JUST CHANGED EVERYTHING”
>>585773050I hate trannies and niggers though? Just don't want spam whispers.
>>585772969Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>585767429now it's every person for they/themselves
>>585773050>NOOO DON'T SEND ME TO THE SHADOW REALM NOOO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT US PLEASE
>>585773173this plus every single thumbnail is the most blatant ai slop shit with red arrows pointing everywhere with random shit circled while some ugly mutt onions faces at the screen
>>585773173Are they sponsored by RestedXP as well?
>>585773173I can see the Bellular thumnails for all of these in my head
is tauren really unplayable?
Is there gonna be a /v/ guild?
>>585773273
>>585773279Yes every wow sloptuber is for some fucking reason
>>585773380needs more giant red arrows, maybe the feet circled too
kill streamers kill youtubers kill anyone with more than 100 followers on socials
>>585773173https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBetGv95uLk
>>585773317
were youtubers always this shit or is this an evolution
>>585773485its kind of sad to see this guy use AI on his thumbnails to make himself thinner
>>585773173that's just every game now sadly
Orc's Command racial should apply to your party member's damage if you're the leader.
>>585773551They've been dry for almost ten years lad.
you just know they listened to this retard when making balance changes
>>585773586He isn't even that fat, it's just more noticeable because the dude was super skinny in the 2018, and yet he does that anyway
>>585773551A bit of both. They were always shit but ai lets them really spew out the slop.
>>585773273>>585773380I hate AI thumbnails so much. They all use this exact same text. Every single image literally looks exactly like this with the exact same fonts. What the fuck is the AI's obsession with that one grunge looking font?
It's NE warrior tank really gonna be the best one?
>>585773551in the 2010s you'd only see hyper optimized thumbnails and clickbait titles on big accounts, now even accounts with 500 or 1k subscribers do it
>>585773661>human crit nerfed>undead touch nerfednah he wouldn't want the pally races nerfed
>>585773661Well yeah. He wanted shockadin to be a spec so much that Holy died.
>hate streamers>do nothing but talk about them
>>585770534Just bring a laptop and hotspot if you can, odds are you'll be sitting in a room for hours and will never actually be called up.
>>585773551Before AI slop we had manual slop which was>generic image with the creator soifacing at something".The difference is back then AI couldn't also write your script for you
>>585773681Yes because you can shadowmeld to drop threat when your dps start talking shit.
>>585773551WoW youtubers specifically are all slop. Retail is nothing but gay men and women playing dress up while decorating their house or collecting sparkle ponys.Classic people who like classic had to move on since its been dead forever and the only ones that stuck around are indians making gold farming guides or click bait sensationalist slop or top 10 lists.There isn't a single good one besides doomhowl serial killer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvbJTN28pa0
>>585773854True....
>>585773551last good youtuber was filthy frank
>>585772647don't you lose like five stacks stopping to pick one herb
>>585773661>tfw no retard streamer playing my specfeelsgoodman
>>585773485BLOATED
Forever is interest is that its the first time I've seen a game release where the levers for AI sloptent has never been so open. All the websites, the addons, videos, articles (remember the AI hallucinating passive buffs from professions?). Somehow PoE2 avoided this shit.
>>585773551AI has allowed just the acceleration of producing slop, but more important the algorithm actively incentivizes this shit.
>>585773936Yes you will lose stacks if you stop to do anything and lose like 15 stacks at once just for taking a hit of damage.
>>585773883he was just an edgelord from a different time
>>585772751>I can run fast? Cool
>>585773883Him, Jontron and Pewdiepie are the only ones to have not fuck up from unforced errors.
>>585773661why would they listen to a legit 85 iq retard that doesnt even know anything about the game to make balancing decisions
>>585773551 I think YouTube added a feature not TOO long ago that basically generates an AI thumbnail for the video? Or several different ones and then it selects which one does the best.I've been seeing it all over my feed as well. It was most jarring to see not only the same AI thumbnail style appearing everywhere, but more interesting to me was seeing channels I've followed for years make the change.
>>585773981It doesn't help that wowhead has also gotten incredibly lazy. Most people only went to those AI sites for information because wowhead was so slow to update anything about Forever. It took them an entire week just to get a fuckin talent calc up.Hell we STILL have recipe drops from the beta that never got documented on wowhead.
>>585774003lil gupps love slop
>Alliance sissies cry about horde racials the entire beta despite them just being okay>Horde racials get nerfed repeatedly >Alliance racials get buffed twice
>>585773661if he is ruining paladins then i kneel
>>585774103And Crendor for wow creators but that man stays in his lane hardcore.
>9 days
>>585773883maybe if you were 10 years old when you watched him
>>585774186yep, owned
>>585773661I wish, he told them to fix ele shaman and they didn't. Aggrend just is a ret paladin so thats why ret paladin is in a good spot even though the other paladin specs suck ass right now and are the worst healers / tanks.
>>585774209i generally don't care about +/-1% damage increases but being blatantly insulted like this is a little aggravating
>>585774186It was from all the retards who didn't understand the pvp tournament was on Horde because they literally had to pick 1 of the 2 factions to run it on.
>>585774209nerf undead
The name checks are now based on both fire and second name right? Really makes me wonder how common a name must be for you to want to reserve it.
>>585774103Didn't FF get troll's remorse later on?
>>585774209If blizzard sees that chart they're going to nerf undead and buff human.
>>585774360if you play the literal cattle race don't expect your character to be agile and intelligent. it's simply good rp
>>585773485>>585773317This is one I genuinely don't get. Michael's company has real money behind it, they can afford to hire actual artists to crank out good thumbnails relatively fast, he doesn't need to rely on AI slop to get out his content and yet he does it anyway.
>>585774557but your shockadin build bwo? you can SHOCK someone... twice!!!!
>>585774557what are the coefficients for each? are shockadins simply going to be unable to kill anyone who can heal?armsbros...now's your time
>>585774209>one sky elf above the otherHow the fuck does this make any sense?
>>585774626Why would you pay artists when you can get something passable for free? Artists especially digital have been hard cucked the most by AI.
>>585774420There's troll's remorse and "troll's remorse"
>>585774754The horde avatar elf has a speed increase so it can stay on target better.
>>585774824true, icuck is on another level, but there's a lot of formerly edgy youtubers that pulled the ladder up after them
>>585768476it sux on warlock, they barely get hp regen from spirit (unless that changes)
>>585774754they have different racials and class availability
>>585774824This guy is a cautionary tale, on track to be the next asmongold but instead got whipped and hitched by the first woman he had sex with and then adopted her personality, ditched his friends weddings and faded into irrelevancy in a matter of months.
You know the racial patch is fucked when even the wowhead comments are sensible.
anyone wanna quickly AI a tauren version of this?
@grok Is we getting are 1% crit back?
Is there any reason to go horde now besides if you want to be a tauren herbalism bot?
racials before this patch>needs some small tuning but overall fairly balancedracials after this patch>SOMEONE AT BLIZZARD NEEDS TO BE FIRED
>>585774420>>585774967FF just wanted to focus on his music seriously, which was obviously the right move. I don't think he ever cucked and apologized for his comedy like idubz.
love it when the FINAL TUNING PASS is fucking disastrous retarded nonsense what a great company
>>585772902pussy ass bitch
>>585774209>being a tauren is worse than having no racials at all
now that wow forever failed, what's is next for us?
>>585775206I expect a FINAL FOR REAL THIS TIME 2.0 tuning pass later in the week.
>>585775152You want to be a shaman but dont wanna be a dwarf, but they also ruined shaman so no one really wants to be one.
>>585775152Barrens comfy times
>>585746624Which guild is lgbt friendly
>>585775250https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/fury/races/castingpatchwerkForever Tauren are now the same as Retails Vulpera and Lightforged Draenei. They don't have a real dps racial so they will always be at the bottom of the charts.
>>585775294We wait for the next fresh as always
>>585774209this chart doesn't take into account the dps increase yo get running to each move and avoiding each mechanic, and getting back to dpsingi'd assume they're still last, but not like that
>>585775294forlo classic plus
>>585775294WoW Forever Classic in 15 years.
>>585775513it doesnt work in combatalso it's extremely slow to ramp up
>>585775513>moving>mechanicsBro these are classic raids. You just stand and hit.
>>585775250How does that even work?
>>585772902Video games are made with math.
How does Horde recover from their massive izzat loss?
>>585775603vibeslop
when is heroic leap added?
>>585775572>it doesnt work in combathow many times will this get repeated
>>585775681by nuking asmon and all of his guild in every bg
>>585775603it compares vs human stats but no racial and tauren has the lowest agility which fucks hunter
ALEX RUNS THIS GENERAL
>all these addon droolers can’t fathom playing without having UI plastered all on their screen
I despise WoW youtubers on such a level that it lets me tolerate the existence of WoW streamers, because at least streamers aren't giving us videos with an AI thumbnail and an AI script, sometimes even with an AI voice.
>>585775603Because their base stat distribution is also shit. They have the lowest agility and int out of any other race. This is why people rolled NE for Hunter in classic, because they have the highest base agility.
>>585775294Wow 2.0 REMIXBlue OrcsRed OgresYellow WorgensPink DraeneiOnly 29,99 each!
>>585774967Because people seem to subscribe to the idea of relative morality, where morals are absolute regardless of what era, time frame you were from. All the edgy youtubers were just parroting their zeitgiest, but things swung so far so quickly they had to pull the ladder up to protect themselves.
>>585775926>
>>585775531>orcs racial pets are wolvesgreen pov
>>585775926>horde races are all slower and dumber than alliancebros...
>>585774209Ive seen enough. Nerf tauren.
remember when all these youtube niggers went to FFXIV saying how great is was lmao
All I need is them to buff holy paladin last minute and my Forever(tm) experience will be complete
>>585776083It is a great game though, so they didn't lie.
>>585776234It's not. If it was a genuinely good game you'd have no reason to be here.
>>585775983No that's objective morality, relative morality (or rather moral relativism) says there's morality is shaped by what you were born into and while you have the right to judge people from the past or other cultures today, it doesn't excuse you refuse to understand why they did the things they did. I might not like Islam but not agreeing with their stance of chopping off the hand of a thief is not the same thing as saying I can't learn and understand why they do it.
>>585776260You can play both
>>585776260It's not really an MMO. It's a JRPG with occasional co-op bosses.
>>585776307jrpgs arent good
>>585775926>tauren are the dumbest and strongest in the entire gamemy nelf is leaking from her cage..
>>585776271not rly, anon should perhaps not have used the word "absolute" but rather "valid" or something, but what he's describing is more like relative morality
>>585776350But that's wrong...
>>585776350I like them.
>>585775926I didn't even know this was a thing. Does it change scaling like at max level or does it stay the small 1-5 point difference?
>>585775926>10 foot tall bull monster has less stamina than a fucking manlet
>>585776483gains per level is only based on class
>>585776483the stats difference doesn't change although ~10 agi is still 1% dps or something on a hunter
>>585776083Yeah and they were right it's a really good game and experience if you enjoy story. Only bad thing about it is the shitty netcode.
>>585776496That kind of makes sense, takes much more energy to move that 10 foot tall body than the roided manlet with a wide base
>cows have 160% ms at level 1disgusting
>>585775294Epoch is already out btw
>>585776083just a tantrum to get noticed by daddy blizzard. no one liked that garbage.
>>585776496An average adult bull vastly outperforms a human in raw explosive power and short-burst strength, while a human holds a significant advantage in long-distance endurance, thermoregulation, and heat dissipation
>>585773173Dad gamer here. making slop for other dads. Did i mention I'm a dad ?
>>585775926Does anyone know the base stats for skelf?
>>585776573the story was fucking terrible though? I played up through heavensward and after an entire expansion of trying to get the super duper powerful and dangerous dragon eye that caused mass chaos, they finally get it and immediately...throw it off a bridge for some reason and the bad guys just pick it back up lmao. Actual sunday morning cartoon slop writing.
>>585776801good lord
>>585773173>Go on youtubeFound your problem.
>>585776651Fatgrend duped us into paying for a funserver
new>>585776903>>585776903>>585776903
>>585776801hmmm yes, quite
>>585776651>New skill: Taurens can carry 1 party member
>>585776801now give her a spade tattoo on her right asscheek
>>585776973Tauren should be able to pick up gnomes and throw them.
>>585771086I've played with these retards, some coming and going, on kronos, Elysium, lights hope and 2019 classic. Was always chill, they're competent at the game, clear raids, guild was always very populated, no drama, you hit 60 you can raid if you want.
>>585770534>get a letter>you need to do jury duty goy whenever we call you>website bottom of letter>go to website, make a login>tell them i have autism and aspergers and im on disability bucks (which i am)>1 day later>we so sorry sir you are dismissed forevernormies have to do it but I don't.
>>585778921i ignore all my jury summons
>>585778921yeah you just don't show up. ignore the letter. i've skipped two of them. i don't give a shit. "sorry didn't see it". fuck em.
>>585773870https://www.youtube.com/@SatansHeteroFathershut up
>>585778921What if I tell them I'm racist or sexist? I wonder what would happen....
