F-111 editionThread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg9aQvjMS60Previous Mission:>>585853547>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>AC3 Translation Patcheshttps://pastebin.com/ET0rSVc3>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Kono's twitterhttps://x.com/kazutoki>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU
ace combat zero vr
Post night photos of afterburners.
Phantom belly rubs.
>>585933076
>>585933059>Not going full merc mode Next you're going to tell me you don't blow up windmills?
i got so many (you)s near the end of that last threadthank you bros :D
>>585933059Determined to get your money's worth out of that headset huh?
>>585933427What planes would Alonso fly? He would start with the best in the class (not counting that one season with minardi) and kept making wrong choices ever since.
I'm hungry.
>>585933947Long Caster new Wings menu?
>>585933427we are buddies not borders
>>585929994>>585930291I somewhat recently got back into it for a few weeks. Had moderate fun with sidewinder-capable subsonic jets when matchmaking wasn't pitting me against mach 2 UFOs. But the grind to get endgame stuff is obscene and I refuse to give those cunts any more of my money, so eventually I uninstalled again
>>585933427>Callsign isn't El LoboOne job anon:https://youtu.be/SKr4dhxIwZ0?si=0CCtbB9Run8vLuSK
>>585934406Slinging shitter missiles with subsonic jets was pretty fun, but as you said getting raped by uptiers really put a dent in to that fun.
Logging into ace online makes me want to get back into world of warships desu. It's like the only decent online vehicle combat game there is.
apparently you can land at white valley base in misison 3 after the shadows appearhttps://x.com/Diver11_SW/status/2115413642657378720
>>585934576The FA-36 looks so stupid with those wingtips. What were they thinking.PA's fictional plane design has been lacking in the last few games.
>>585933076Is technically at night.>>585933134We need more F-4's in our lives.>>585933427Ngl I was tempted to talk about F1 last thread. Now I just need to match the AC planes to the drivers mentally.
Okay that wasn't as bad as I thought it would be
Chinaplens when?
>>585934745I think they're fine for what they're supposed to represent. You got the two big serious planes defending the flock of nuggets running to a certain death.
>>585934576Sheppard's leading sheep to be slaughtered!
>>585934769>Ngl I was tempted to talk about F1 last thread. Now I just need to match the AC planes to the drivers mentally.I'll just put F-104 as any of the extremely crash heavy but quick drivers along the lines of Grojean and Maldonado.
>>585934830when Xi gets the stick out of his assso never
>they didn't suggest /f1/ as a collab in the survey
>>585935108I did suggest Ridge Racer does that count?
>>585934830
>>585935108i would prefer if fewer eurotrash got into ace combat thanks
>>585935108Modern f1 cars look stupid so I'm not really interested
>>585934448this is more soulful than the past 3 years of f1 combined
>>585935224Holy copium
>>585935226american owned sport
Don't you see? One million! ONE MILLION SALES!
>>585935384*Saudi
>>585934960>gravity will guide me bro' !!!!!If PA had balls she would have died instead of teach
>>585934769>Ngl I was tempted to talk about F1 last thread/f1/ and /aceg/ will always be allies
>>585935584Five billion more races to sandniggerstan and america
>>585934830Never because China cares very deeply about their public image and would never allow their equipment to be portrayed in a losing scenario. But PA could easily work around this by making extremely-similar-but-legally-distinct knockoffs of Chinese designs. Even Project Wingman had their own J-20-fied version of an F-22. Picrel for example, I always thought the "H-9" helicopter was a Blackhawk helicopter but only recently found out it's its own separate Strangereal-exclusive thing.
>>585935720it's incredibly annoying how every single new circuit is terrible
>>585936392oh cool, i completely raped the video quality without even realising
>>585936392>single new circuitThe thing is that they arent even real circuits. They are all god awful street tracks. Millions must die
>>585936392Why is 2020 skipped? Did something happen?
>>585936769He kind of looks like Mihaly
I already miss playing ace combat
>>585937058yeah a cough went around
>>585937058>Why is 2020 skipped? Did something happen?
>>585935108>No Mirage-2000 -LIGIER- variantWhat could've been.
>>585933670Well, currently I would say that he is flying a Tornado F2.
>>585937058Buddy...
>>585935647Nah if they had true balls they'd have her shot down but be wheelchair bound like Tewy at the end of the game
Nordevannic superweapons in my headcanon
New patch completely gutted the Ladon fight.
Would you rather play as Sotoa or Yukes in a Sotoan-Yuktobania war prequel?
>>585940694How relevant is the EW nerf?
>>585940752Belka
>>585940694is it even out yet?
>>585940694Wdym?
Do COIN planes exist in Strangereal?
>>585942383Yeah but they're mostly flown by highschoolers to go to school in.
I love the album arts for the Ace Combat soundtracks.
>>585942648what's with the air intakes on this one?is f15e also asymetrical irl?
>>585942648
>>585942817Anon...
>>585942817look at the image closer, its not fully aligned in the tail end either.
>>585942868This and 04 are my favorite OST covers
>>5859431924 looks sick yeah I agree
>>585942648what do 7 and 8 look like?
>>5859440548 is not out yet, 7's is bit boring imho
>>585944192>modern game is anti-soulle sigh... :(
>>585944365I think it suits the game's theme of looking up from the blue color of the lower atmosphere to the deep blue of space, but it is otherwise a boring cover yeah.
>>585944365this album art from this cover group really works for me
>>585944192I used to think 7's was boring until I noticed the space elevator on the right, now I think it's kino.
>>585943027>>585942958stupid picture
>>585945604Retard
>>585945720im already slow
>>585945778I think you need a nap anon.
>>585934830i think 6th gen is gonna be the first gen without one single good looking plen
tfw you will never hit the sack and instantly fall asleep in your comfy air force barracks all wrapped up nice and cozy after a long bombing mission
>>585942383What's the point? Even the shittiest of banana republics have an airforce with at least a thousand planes. Even local resistance movements have C-130s an A6-Es.
>>585946236GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING FORT GRAYS ISLANDIT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER CRUISE MISSILE
SO WE WILL RISE ABOOOOVE
>>585946584Is every country in Strangereal rich as fuck or is military hardware dirt cheap and in massive overabundance across the whole planet?
>>585947298The answer is oddly "yes" to both.Like Usea is supposed to be a third world continent that got hit by several dozen asteroid pieces, and yet is fully functional as a first world economy.And at the same time, countries can throw money at superweapons that are regularly destroyed.
https://youtu.be/SkNQ1HDKAzs?
>>585947298An F-22 costs 50k Zollars so I'm guessing military hardware is just dirt cheap.But that's ACO and its canonicity is questionable so if we use ACZ an F-22 costs a Mercenary unit 181k. An Su-37 is only 130k. Then again in AC5 an F-22 is only 24k.So maybe it was 24k in 2010 but 19 years of inflation pushed it up to 50k by ACO and the only reason it was so "expensive" in ACZ is that Osea was ripping Ustio off because they knew Ustio had no other options.But all of those prices are laughably low compared to the real world cost of the aircraft(around 150 million).
>>585947574>Could've put the line of K8 saying turn it up>Puts in PJ getting lasered like 30 years ago
>>585947298They just didn't have billionaires until very recently. When you don't have billionaires, every citizen can afford an f-16, and when the citizens have such buying power, price of everything goes down because of mass production.Unfortunately, billionaires have begun emerging recently to ruin things for everyone.
>>585950342But billionaires are wealth creators! Without them who will create the jobs that make money for everyone?
>>585944192>7's is bit boring imhoIt has the best colours though
>>585946236>yfw the DLC lets you pilot bombers over Sotoa to deliver napalm over every yurt
>>585950490>>585945491Yeah the colours and the space elevator are nice, but I think there should be just a bit more detail. It's an Ace Combat game after all, it needs a bit more craziness.
>>585951636The contrast between the other covers is nice.
>>585951636Some of the images from the aces at war book would've been cool covers
I really dislike the topographical map looking liveries they have online. We need more stuff like this
>>585952149only east asia comes up with this futuristic stuff these days
>>585952149no matter how big that plane is it it can't possibly weigh 100k tons empty
>>585942501>everyone bullies the IA-58 Pucara kid
>>585952356There is no future under ZOG, only a constantly decaying present
Hip hip hooray
>>585953148My condolences
>that moment when you finally buy the terminator in zeroclassic memory
>search bar
>>585953270Spent too many tickets on low and mid tiers now my most expensive plane is a Growler stuck at level 10 since I'm short on blueprints.
I'm starting out online since I just finished the campaign. I have a MiG-21 (and plan to get a MiG-31 or F-14D) but I'm realizing I need a ground attacker of some kind. Is the Mirage or any of the multiroles decent or should I save up for a high-tier attacker?
>>585951498>Mission 31: The Firebombing of Ibirsh>Objective: No Survivors
>>585954071Su-25 is the bestest chandelier and alicorn killer for cheap. Su-34 goes fast and gets UGBL.
you know, as much shit as I give ACO at least they let me play it unlike the jap cunts at the Gundam team at bamco
>>585954071Mirage can ground pound yeah, especially on maps that have ships.
>>585954370Thanks anon, appreciate it. Are multiroles just not worth it then?
>>585954071you can unlock the fullback pretty early and it's the best attacker for anything that isn't an emergency sortiedon't fall for the multirole cope squad
Don't listen to the soulless metaslave squad, just play the plane you like in the role you like.
>>585954071If you love cocks you wait until you can buy the Su-34 and use that, but otherwise getting multiroles for the purpose of groundpounding isn't worth it. You'll just have a terrible time watching all your targets get scooped up by metafags.
>>585954648it's not the plane, it's the pilot
>>585954071A-6 Intruder is underrated because you can take LAGM and LASM at the same time and get 4 shots with long range ground attack missiles. Absolute navy wrecker.
>queue online>see a nick that's a known ea-36 user>alt-f4simple asIt's a bit worrying how often I keep seeing the same names though, online is really dead.
>>585954815It's not underrated because it's offensively slow. It's niche application doesn't really make it worth using. >>585954960Everyone has either given up or finished the pass and, rightfully, stopped playing online.
>>585954502Some are ok like the Gripen or Su-47.
>>585954648>gets mad at anons giving suggestionsI will metaslave until I can trust retarded fucks to not lose an Emergency Sortie.
something kind of odd is that there's a second set of land battleship tracks through theve that don't match its path in the mission to stop it, tracking from west to south instead of from the north
waitso if DD is the son of a literal billionaire was he a middle level corpo rat shill for the love of the game?
>>585955862Those were carved during the initial invasion, Tasha even comments it during Retaking if Theve I. West to South implies they were from #2, since that thing was fucking around in souther Usea before it pushed towards San Salvacion and Selatapura.
>>585956094He's based
> << Oh this? Just a little gesture I picked up in Belka. >>
>>585955862Why would the cunts just plow through a city like that, what is their problem
>>585954502You can unironically make anything work if you're a good enough pilot. The only thing "multirole" does in-game is set your damage multipliers against different targets. The sp weapons, flight models, and abilities are all individual to the plane.Lots of multiroles suck, but that's because of those other factors. Changing them from multirole to fighter or attacker isn't going to magically make them goodFor recs:>air superiorityMorgan is cancer with TLS + ECMGripen is good with LAAM + SASM>ground poundRafale is a sniper with LAAM + LACMF/A-18E can larp as an attacker with better maneuverability if you use SOD + QAAM to defend yourself from enemy pilots
what are your controversial ace combat opinions that you keep to yourself for fear of making anons angry at you?
>>585956558I can't guarantee I wouldn't do the same thing if I were at the helm of one of those. Especially if it was Toronto.
>>585956558presumably stopping at enso for snacks and railgun ammo before continuing west. which raises the question why enso seemed genuinely unaware of what its railgun range is.
>>585953148My pass is still level 0 because I'm not allowed to play. :^(
>>585957094>why enso seemed genuinely unaware of what its railgun range is.DD's faction got pranked by 303's faction. The game literally tells you this.
>>585952740What about the fat kid in the Alpha Jet?
>>585957282>it seems they used advanced techniques to feed us false intel!>literally a 20 second job in photoshop to edit some photos
>>585955062>plane is bad because it's slowEnjoy being an ADHD addled metafaggot then.
>>585933076Sex.
>>585933076More sex.
>>585940507Nordennavic.Wtf is nordevannic?
>>585957684>>585957857Actually heavenly. I'm hearing the *SWWHHHHHHHHHHHNMMMMMM* in my head watching this
>>585958051emmeria's hat
>>585957498Yes anon, that's the plot of Mission 5. Enso spy sats take some voyeur photos of the ship's big guns, which are actually smaller than the FCU thought. The FCU gets big dicked by the battleship and has to pull out of Theve, and they discover the spy pics were doctored by counterintel to make the guns look smaller and less scary, so they also thought they'd have less range.Meet back next thread to discuss why a crab is not a sun.
>Have Nikke installed on my comp>Turns out it's anticheat makes it unable for me to launch AC8 if the anticheat is installed >Have to delete it and restart my comp every time I want to launch the game
>>585957684>>585957857Unrealistic standards of jet beauty
>>585958610Delete nikke forever
>>585958610At least it's keeping people from cheating in ACO, right?
Sure we see the GR logo and blew right past all the nuggets while we know what it means and what will come next. But they missed out on something good to really sell the yes GR won big in this war.During the ending credits it should have cut to GR board room full of old suits all they are doing is laughing as the screen fades back to black. It would confuse the hell out of the nuggest but any long time players would know exactly what we are seeing.
>>585958795The French had "issues" in the early Cold War days.
>>585958845Its just the most random fucking thing. Just wish I had a work around.
>>585959069anonthey literally have a slide of the gr logo being placed on one side of a building while the enso order logo is torn down off the other sidehow much less subtlety do you need
>>585959574The rest of the game did its full ham action movie scenes might as well complete it with the villains won this round ending scene of equal ham levels.
>>585956807AC Zero kinda sucks aside from the memes
>>585959069Yeah they should've had a GRDF post credits scene with Keith and Dision jerking offAlso Park and Clarkson are there
>>585959263open cmd as admintype: sc stop ace-basehit enter
>no YF-23 in the campaign wtf seriouslyfucking loved the YF-23 Lynx skin in AC7
>>585959741>The rest of the game did its full ham action movie scenes might as well complete it with the villains won this round ending scene of equal ham levels.we're not even close to command and conquer levels of ham, which is the level of ham you want to have a board room of evil dudes laughing evilly about the evils they've done in order to do more evils in the future
>>585959828I kinda agree desuWouldn't say it's bad, but replaying it recently made me notice all the flaws a lot
>>585935661What about GT or is that considered the racing sport of Sotoan dogs?
>>585959925>GRDF post credits scene with Keith and DisionJust having them flying around Port Edwards in a pair of brand new Hornets adv. while haveing some small talk like say he's got a hot date tonight but it will be at the lab due to his woman wants to show him somethingWould been Kino
>>585960010this thing was my UGB queen
>>585959069i think they're leaving AC3-related stuff as the unaddressed elephant in the room. if you know the details they're beating you over the head with the fact that you're already in the prologue.
>>585959069AC3 sucks and should be retconned
>>585960061>>585959828I've been achievement hunting it for steamNostalgia's a bitch. Still AC5 that i replayed also recently holds up way better in my humble opinion, but also i like story driven
>>585960338
>>585959828It's good but presentation does a lot of the heavy lifting
>>585960746>WHEELS OF THEVE!
>>585960746Ace Combat racing game when Ace Combat shooter game whenAce Combat strategy game when
>>585960746I KNEW IT!>>585960975kek'd harder than I should have.>>585960996>Ace Combat racing game whenLegit Ridge Racer is set in Strangereal anon?
>>585960996>Ace Combat racing game whenR Racing Evolution
>>585961232I've played that. Decent enough Gran Autismo clone
There's a timeline in which Joint Assault was a proper AC game set in Strangereal with great missions and fun flying and cool bosses, and not an abominable fucking turdAlas, I get to live in the timeline where it is, sadly, an abominable fucking turd
>>585961505i'd say it's more TOCA than GT
>>585961651There's even a worse timeline, imagine it sold well and now Joint Assault-esque Ace Combats are the only ones being released anymore.
>>585961978Could be even worse. Imagine if AH sold well and everything requires DFM
>>585960661
Controller or kb+m for expert controls?
>yesterday i did 40 missions on Expert in AC0 on free missions for the medal>since it wasn't a campaign, i didn't save between missions>there's no automatic save>mfw i start the game today
>>585962459Controller the game was made for it
>>585962459Controller
>>585962459Controller, it's the best way to play it
>>585935661>>585960746>>585961153I want to believe Project Aces was making a nod towards some sort of new Ridge Racer in the works at Bamco.
>>585963405We'll know if we get a DLC mission where we have to chase down race cars through the streets of Theve.
>>585959981Wow. That fucking worked. Swear i tried that on my old computer... Thanks, buddy.
>>585962459never play a flight game on mkbyou NEED a stick of some sort at the bare minimum
>>585963883Mission where you have to fly trough the tunnel in NotMonaco.
>>585964281Like so?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uu_lQd2jVA
I love how you can always get the su37's FAEBs just in time for hoffnung
>>585964776They knew what was required.
>>585964440>28 meters / 92 feet longStupid
If you went back in time and showed PS1/PS2 era (you) Ace Combat 8, what would you think back then
>>585964930>fast as fuck, supermaneuverable, not only radar stealthy but literally fucking optically invisible, armed with nuke missiles and microwave death balls>stupid
If 7 had Avril just scrapping and making custom planes, I'd like to see the idea return with hobbyists making planes for the sake of racing them in canyon runs before getting drafted for war. Maybe tie it in to a story about friends getting split and forced to fight for their opposing countries.
>>585964983I'd be questioning what happened to the aircraft roster?
>>585962459I use KBM.Git gud.
>>585964983>holy shit they only made 3 more of these in 20 years?
>>585965220That would be an interesting tutorial mission.You start out practicing basic flight controls, do a canyon run, do a very short tunnel run, get praised by the NPC, and oops bombers on radar.
>>585965528saved
>>585964983Man, 20 years later and there's only one new IRL endgame plane? Wish they went backwards in the timeline instead.
>>585965220>Maybe tie it in to a story about friends getting split and forced to fight for their opposing countries.Sounds like just a rehash of Cipher and Pixy?>>585965528kek
>>585965602>hey where'd you get this junk radar? it's picking up random signals from the far east of the canyon>h-hey mine too what gi->bombers!?>mission update: escape
>>585966067pixy was more of a willing shift due to his personal beliefsI like the idea more than none of the players involved want to pursue war, let alone kill each othermaybe have alternate routes where you can shift the tide of war and who stays your friend depending who you choose not to kill or if you deliberately disobey orders?
>>585964983Where is the Su-37? And why does the Su-35 have TVC but no canards?
>>585966012Ain't PA's fault planes stay in service for a billion years and new shit comes rarely
>>585964983“I quite enjoy Kate Evans”
>>585966372sounds gayi want a protag that loves war and is happy to slaughter his enemies
>>585964983>why p p hard
>>585966783so is top gun, and it's a classic sometimes being gay and liking planes is one in the same anon, you of all people should be accepting of thatI mean, I'm not gay, but YOU should accept that you are!
>>585957561>dont want to fly a slow piece of shit with very niche application>u-ur just a metafagSorry you're such a mentally deficient animal.
does anyone use SOD in ACO? is it decent, or should I not bother investing in the super hornet
>>585967189It's not bad. You can dive bomb with it and stack all the clusters on top of each other for more damage. You also get QAAMs so it's not like it's a bad plane to invest in anyway.
>Decide to leave Gemma nuggets alone in a playthrough to see what the dialogue is like>They all get shot down by Jackpot flightI am choosing to believe if Ventus guys were still in the air they're be dialogue telling Gemma 1 to shoot herself for losing to a Harrier.
>>585966012>F-47 reveal in the next year or two>almost certain to just look like an expanded X-36, disappointing everyoneAin't it a bitch?
>>585967481Even the generic units have lines for shooting them down.I was laughing when one of them was celebrating in the comms for taking out a new model
I just finished AC3 for the first time and got the ending C. I remember when I first tried playing this game years ago without knowing about how retarded the international release was and dropped it after a couple of missions.
>>585947298Part of it is just that production priorities are different. DD made a comment in one of the first few cutscenes where he remarked that something like his smartphone could be standard-issue for Usean soldiers if the budget was different. So economies of scale let fighter craft be comparatively cheaper than IRL, but in contrast things like smartphones are more expensive.Also, IRL planes are massively overpriced when you consider how many are built today vs how many planes were built during WWII. To an extent the MIC scaled down production but raised prices to keep their income the same. Well, not the same. More like hilariously increased.
>>585967594I fucking wish
>>585967668Zero Gravity best mission.
>>585954071>>585954502>ground pounderanything with UGBs is top tier, SOD is your second best SpW, su34 exclusively has UGBL and abnormally high maneuverability so it stands at the top>multirolesclass based damage bonuses/maluses only apply to missiles & guns so multiroles are effectively just fighters with a different SpW selection that can 1-msl most ground targets, since very few planes can take 3 hits
>>585952164>topographical map looking liveries they have onlineThat's a really generous description that you have. They look more like some dog drank your case of monster energy drink and then vomited it onto the floor.>>585954071Use the mirage for ground attack in assault mode until you unlock the Su-34. Then use the Su-34 for ground pounding in assault/warfare. The su-25 with gunpods/SFFS is king for super weapon fights.
>>585966372Sounds like something they'll try eventually but I think PA would make a hash of it.>>585966783I wanted AC8 to be that you could turn your wingmen into mini versions of yourself so by the end Coster and Tasha were going full Khornate mode.>>585967024You just want Ace Yuri don't you anon? Come out and say it!
>>585967898>modern planes are as easily built as the incredibly simplistic shitboxes from WW2 that were sometimes made out of fucking woodAre you retarded?
>>585968190They're not as easily built, but they're not as expensive as the cost suggests.
>>585967594>It'll look like the X-36Very unlikely it'll look like the Night Raven and you'll love it.
I'm firing up the grill. Do you guys want anything?
>>585965857>doesn't say good killslop
>>585968482Some extra crispy nuggets sounds good!
>>585968248Yeah your 100% a retard
>>585967594That thermal image looks nothing like the x-36 though.
>>585967898It ded feel a little weird for DD's phone to be treated like some kind of magical contraption from myth lol
>>585967594THE APALIS IS REAL
>>585968656t. Lockheed-Martin
>>585954502>Thanks anon, appreciate it. Are multiroles just not worth it then?Multiroles can be worth it in ASSAULT mode. You're griefing if you ground pound in a multirole in WARFARE mode.In assault mode you often are just pounding trash targets, so your low air to ground damage doesn't matter and what's more important is efficient areas of effect. So something like an Su-47 can dish out good numbers with dumb bombs and some +radius parts. Some missions have you fight more robust targets like warships or heavy howitzers where the lack of damage makes you feel inefficient.In warfare mode the heavy targets are both more common AND players get score multipliers as they earn score. So denying your attacker the opportunity to single-handedly flatten the ground targets can deny your team a shit ton of points.
Anyone noticed after retaking Theve Kate starts sitting next to the player at every opportunity she can in cutscenes?
>>585960661excellent post
>>585969079Well she is Rex's wife
>>585968482yeah can you m𝘢ke me 𝘢 s𝘢ndwich?
>>585968656>The B2's toilet seat legitimately is a $23,000 dollar piece of equipment.
>>585968482I'll take 5 Gemma's well done
>>585969079She fell in love when you got all the LCACs home after rejecting the notion that hope's all you can offer.
>>585960661>AC3 sucksno>should be retconnedmaybe
As someone who has worked on P-3 Orions and seen the receipts for replacement parts, the MIC is hilariously fraudulent
>>585969626>people really think toilet seats cost $10,000
The only thing that needs retconning in 3 is "dogfight inside the interwebs", for the simple reason that's not how the Internet works.But in the context of a simulation that's breaking, it's fine tho.
I can kind of understand now why some of the ancient threadies left when 7 released.
>>585969079Yes, yes. We all know that Kate’s biological RWR was going off.
>>585969079this is like how in older movies made under the Hays code, you could never show any overt intimacy, or anything sexually suggestive (let alone nudity), or even talk about anything sexual ever happening, so you had to just imply it by putting two characters next to each otherthis is basically that
>>585969682Those black projects ain't gonna fund themselves.
>>585969863Black projects are actually relatively cheap.Contractor graft is what's expensive.
>>585969079>>585969851Her having your helmet seems pretty big.
>>585969079when does this cutscene happen, I dont remember it
>>585970417even that would have been borderline scandalous under the Hays codeeveryone would have known exactly what you were implying with it, and some people would have been incensed enough to write letters to the broadcaster condemning itthis is as close as PA will ever come to showing us hardcore POV porn of our protagonist railing the squadron qt du jour
>>585969863How come military projects cost like a bazillion human dollars but some nigga can just make a plasma rifle in his garage using duct tape, a leafblower, and a nokia?
>>585969079>>585969851It's just like with Tasha and Coster being inseparable. Joker Flight's just doing its best to repopulate Usea.
>>585970745it's a heavy burden, but somebody's gotta do it
>>585970043LAMO whatever you say buddyNow if you will just follow this nice man its time for your meds
>>585970892>>585970043Black projects fund themselves by selling weapons and drugs.
>>585971003Wonder then what a true Belkan money laundering operation entails?
>>585970745Think Kate had to have "the talk" with Tasha at some point? I suspect she asked Rex to have a similar "talk" with Coster but they just had an hour long awkward silence
>>585970892You're the one who needs to take your meds, given you think "black project" basically means "expensive UFO tech" and not "we discovered a radar absorbent material, let's uhhh cover a plane with it".
>>585971368Rex tried to talk to Coster, but he just kept talking about Purple Magic.
>>585970623I'm actually illiterate ignore my post
what spw is babby mode against topkek? sasm?
>>585971368I think we've misread Kateshe's not a stern motherly figure constantly trying to wrangle Tasha and stop her from having any funTasha has her dad for thatKate is probably like an older cousin who's giving Tasha tips on how to sneak away and not get caught, new positions to try, making up lies to cover for Tasha and then holding it over her head to make her do Kate's laundry for a week, that sort of thing
<< More UAVs! >>
>>585970652Yakub's peer
<< TALLY HO ONE FUCKING THOUSAND BANDITS WHAT THE HELL >>
>>585971794yes
What if the real promised land was the nuggets we shot down along the way?
>>585972082that mission would be great if not for the 10 minutes of zooming back and forth shooting down bombers
BF4 US Assault I missed you
>>585961505It has opponent radio chatter and they shit their pants whenever you pass them or just put pressure on them. It's great.Love hearing lines like <<I can't catch up!!>> or <<How did 76 get that speed?>>. It even has a dedicated Rival that's much faster than the rest of the field and has a much larger "scare" bar so you can't just ride her ass for 3 corners and make her crash. And of course when you finally fill up that bar you hear <<Please, MAKE IT WORK!!>> as she dives into a corner too fast and spins out.
is strangereal incredibly small or somethinghowd sotoa even get 1000+ planes across the sea at the same time
>>585971865Nah Kate is definitely a motherly figure to Tasha. Tasha changes tone heavily when Kate is talking to her as if she is afraid of pissing her off. Coster by extension as well.
>>585972263I remember the purple haired bitch having funny lines when you crashed in to her. I don't really remember too much about the game other than that.
>>585972270Cima island is closer to Sotoan mainland than it is to Usea.
>>585972082ABSOLUTE MACROSS>MFFW
>>585971794TLS or EMLB. The latter is theoretically the babbyest but its on a shit platform.
>>585972379IT also had a race engineer that acted like an AC AWACS. Unlike other racing games where your engineer would only call out things like "car to your left" and "clear left" after you finish the overtake this guy would constantly comment on your driving technique and how close you were to the guy ahead and encourage you to go for the overtake. With lines like <<Show him you're in a league above!>> and <<Excellent, he's bound to lose it soon!>>.And yes, the game does actually use the <<>> brackets for radio chatter.
>>585972943I should replay this game, it's been a while since I played a racer anyway. ps. The player character is hot
>>585973018>ac5 wingmateslollmao
>>585973262Oh, and my personal favourite. After you max out someone's scare bar and then overtake them while they're still at max scare your engineer might say<<Yeah, make them remember the number 76!>>It was about as AC as a racing game could get. The only real problem is the difficulty, normal is far too easy, hard is not that difficult if you know which cars to pick but if you pick the wrong ones some of the longer championships are insanely difficult. Because the gap in performance is huge.Also the game never tells you when to shift and it makes a huge difference. In some cars you have to shift at the rev limiter while in others you have to massively shortshift.But I honestly loved the cheesy story and it made me want to see a real defined protag in Ace Combat as well. And Rena is still completely silent during races, she only talks during the cutscenes.
>>585973262I need to play this at some point>When I first saw the game in the store I thought huh Reiko got a racing game to herself
>>585973725It sucked you needed levels where everything was on top of you like Journey Home and have them use QAAMs
I want an Immortals FPS.
>>585959069I wonder if they'll address Rex's absence when they get to electrospheres point in the timeline. Because Rex has both the means AND motivation to be involved. He wouldn't be too old like Mobius or Phoenix, he wouldn't be somewhere else like Trigger, Talisman or Gryphus, and he spent like a third of his game fighting against proto GR specifically to prevent the scenario that ends up happening. Pike, D.D, Kate and Coster also know and between D.D's resources and connections and Pikes willingness to make her own missions without commands input I could see them waging a Razgriz style shadow war against the corporate world order
>>585974281Simple.He’s too busy handling his squadron.
>>585974215Honestly if it was still the 2000s Bamco would probably bullshit some FPS spin-off set in strangereal and then never do an FPS ever again lmao
>>585973873>>585973732https://streamable.com/jz73ye Found a clip from 2024 when I played this game.
>nooo you cant shoot at the enemy after they've nuked our whole fleet from orbit ;_;
>>585974443Pretty sure there was supposed to be a Metal Gear Solid clone set in a civil war in Sapin the was being made in like 2008 before it got canned
>>585974953if you kill him... you'll be just as bad as he is!
>>585974972There are so many cool sounding cancelled games, it just makes me sad. My top pick would be Star Wars Imperial Commando, a sequel to Republic Commando.
I want an AC game where you play the invader, the aggressorAnd not just "we turned the tide of the war, now we go on the offensive". No, I want "we're starting this war and we're bombing your homeland, fuck you"
>>585975275That's not even the saddest canceled Star Wars game and Republic Commando was mid as well, orders were irrelevant because your squad would just fucking die all the time and need to to revive them. RIP 1313.
>>585975275I remember being hyped for Star Wars 1313. But then Disney ruined it. Disney is such evil cancer.
>tfw a ronin FPS is just that WW2 COD game with tacticool thompsons and BARs
>>585975481KOTOR 3 is there too if that is what you are referencing. Maybe it was because I was playing piss baby normal mode and not on hard I felt the squadmates were pulling their weight decently.
does anyone else have connection issues like 30% of the time or is it my internet being shit
>>585975275Star wars might have the most cancelled games that were almost certainly going to be bangers.>Star wars 1313>OG Star wars Battlefront 3>Star wars imperial commandoAnd probably more I forgot and others that never got revealed before being shelved
>>585975758I just need a Star Wars game where you can side with the Empire. I'm so tired of the rebels and Imperial defection stories. I remember Squadrons having a decent Imperial campaign, but that's pretty much all Imperial content we've got in years.
>>585974972They should really try again. I recall Bamco hired people who made Fox Engine a few years back. Dunno what happened to that.
Warcriming is fun
>>585976085Making the New Republic the ones with the super weapon project that needs to be stopped was a surprisingly unique idea for Disney Wars.>>585976346Don't worry they're enemy children.
>>585976346It's not a warcrime if you're a PMC.
>>585974953Your enemy committing war crimes is no reason to start doing them yourself. Shooting someone after demanding their surrender is a serious war crime. >>585976346Legitimate targets. There are SAM installations between those tents, if they end up as collateral damage it's not your fault. In fact the enemy is at fault for putting civilians in harms way by placing SAMs there.
>>585976346Aren't those just army tents so they are valid military targets? I think the "war criming" you get to do in Ace Combat is minimal at best.
>>585976346>not the napalmdo you even WARCRIME?
Is there no ace in Fatsia? What's the spawn condition?
>>585976346No war crime has ever been committed by an Ace Combat protagonist.
>>585976649...are you not flying between pillars, buddy?
>>585976649You gotta fly under one of the arms
>>585976148The fact they're using Unreal should tell you everything.They don't want an in-house engine because that would require training people on how to use it. Unreal is ubiquitous because everyone knows how it works.
>>585974953Going "fuck it we warcrimes now" just ends up fucking everybody over.
trying to play online really makes me appreciate how good we had it with infinityi don't even know why i'm bothering with this
>>585976684Char has never betrayed anyone in his entire life, ever.
Fucking.HOW?!I mean, yeah, nugget. But still how in the goddamn?
>>585974281We're not getting a 100% remake of 3 besides it was just a simulation we're going to get a new version set in the Strangeworld to fit with all the changes that have happened since then. You should expect a return of Rex and crew.
>>585977360Playstation player
>>585976148They might as well give it a shot. With Konami unlikely to make a new mgs, let alone a good one, and Splinter Cell seemingly straight up dead, there is an open market in the modern war stealth game scene It's probably the perfect time to do it too. A game set between AC8 and AC8 (provided 9 takes place around electrospheres time) would soften the tonal whiplash of "You did it wings! You stopped the corporate world takeover!" That was at the end of AC8 and the inevitable result still being the same. A mgs style game about fighting GR as a neucom/fcu/independent agent would go hard af as is
I kinda want something during 8 (or a previous game) to show the war from another perspective. The battles that we didn't fight in Ace Combat we see from a new sister series.
>>585976085Go old, play Tie Fighter very nice HD mods were made for it a couple of years back if you don't want that 90's look.
>>585977545*Set between AC 8 and AC9
Tempted to get a JA iso and see if it's as terrible as I remember
>>585977360Ah the fire the gun one time then fuck off for the rest of the match type of player.
/aceg/, what's the coolest mid-tier plane in AC Online? Did some math and I'll only be able to buy and max one more Tier 2 plane before the next battlepass comes, assuming I earn 5 general blueprints each day and I'm also max uncapping planes I already have. I'm leaning towards the F-16 but QAAM and 2AAMs seem pretty disappointing in 8's online compared to 7's online.
>>585977360I managed to get 69 in a Scramble once because I was fucking around with SAAMs and couldn't land a single hit
>>585978069probably the f15c or grippy
>>585977360I sweat my ass off to get kills through flare spam in scramble and every few games one poor guy gets none.
>>585978069I don't know about the F-16C but the flapsmaxxed F-15C & J are the snappiest turners outside of F-22/Su-57
>>585978172>>585978203This wasn’t Scramble. It was Assault
It's shame they won't do this again. Branching, different routes, mission condition variations
>>585978545You could with map recycling.
>>585978545if they do a DLC campaign i want them to set it up that way
5 blueprints a day, the battlepass, the challenges for 50 missions with each class. Did I miss anything how else do you get gold blueprints?
>@infinitysecondWhat did they mean by this?
>>585978069For me it's the Su-47>UGBs provide strong air to ground firepower vs light targets in assault mode>SAAMs are very fun with their lock-on-after-launch capability. They have enough range that you can shoot at targets ~10k+ away. You just can't lock until 6km. People will probably apprciate SAAMs more after the inevitable LAAM nerf.>Can perform kulbits in game, although I don't understand the physics behind that since it doesn't have thrust vectoring.>Forward swept wings are just cool.
Anyone complete mission 12 with the FA36?I've tried it twice and I keep getting stuck on the replay loop.
>>585978069>bestF-15C>coolestSu-47Also the F-16C can be quite interesting whenever 1500 points team deathmatches appear
>>585978914Also insane low speed maneuverability, at the cost of kinda handling like ass at high speed.
>>585978545Man 8 would have been perfect for this>Route 1>Foster Tasha into becoming an S tier fighter pilot>Kate dies during Rocky Island leading to a hardened Tasha>Tewy is the final boss trying to expose Ensoalternatively, Tasha takes the lead in talking shit bringing up Tewy's duel with her motherRoute 2>Dissuade Tasha from actively fighting>Baxter dies as usual>Tasha is thrown into a loop but Coster locks the fuck in and steps the fuck up>Tewy dies using the Nightmare because Rex chasing her pushed her crippled body over the limit>Now Toprak, completely off the chain, is the final boss trying to use the Nightmare to give the FCU one final "fuck you" by nuking Theve Crimson One style
>>585979168I just really fucking enjoy the SAAM. It's just sad that in practice the LAAM is grossly better.
what is the best fighter-type plkane in AC8
>>585979567whichever one you have the most fun with
>>585979567What's your budget? General Blueprint scarcity is a real thing.
>>585979567FA-36 Game
>>585979879i just need one air-to-ground one that can one shot tanks
Game? More like Lame kek
>>585979994F-16C then since it has a 1.5x ground target damage multiplier abilitty for some reason.
>>585979559You can definitely pull some hilarious bullshit plays with it but it's very high commitment, while LAAMs are the most fire-and-forget weapon in the whole game.Flight duration + homing on your SAAMs will have them looping even harder than QAAMs, it's really funny.
>>585978069Gripen a cuteF-15C and F-16 are both great too though, can't go wrong
>>585980538I mostly play assault mode since I can't stand the current state of balance and poor netcode in warfare. I like using SAAMs to help offset the retarded way that missiles chase the targets with direct pursuit instead of intercept paths. I can dumbfire the missile behind or in front of the target so and then lock later so that the missile will approach on an angle that can actually hit a target that's flying across my nose.
When do we get the Jack Flight Skin and Emblem?
>>585981013Didn't you take the hint?Boot up claude and change it yourself!
>>585981013When they add the rest of the planes in Wings squadron as DLC.
>>585980749
Hey Anon.Who's the Fifth Wing?
>>585983804my penis
Wanna see something fun?Before the update my F-14A didn't have any skins in the plane viewer beyond the basic blank one yet its icon was that of Triggerhmmm.......F-14A getting 3 Trigger skins when PA?
>>585985530Now after the update all the skins appeared like they should yet the Trigger emblem is gone!I don't know what they did but they really screwed up on the PS5 version
>the updateWas postponed.
>>585986312?
>>585986971Sadly Gripen got nerfed into oblivion in 8 when they took away her KEPD350 cruise missiles from 7
>clear mission>OUT OF VIDEO MEMORYthey gotta do something about this shit ass engine man
I'm having a very annoying issue with 8 right now. Some kind of control stick drift is causing my camera to swing all the way up, I can fix it by flicking the right stick but it keeps happening. I don't see how this is could be a deadzone issue, since the camera swings all the way vertical, not just a little bit. Xbone controller on PC
>>585985530I believe in the Prequel DLC where you play as Trigger and deal with some terrorist in 2026 so Every aircraft needs a Trigger skin.
>>585987929I have a similar issue with a PS4 controller its stick drift but its a very slow death it'll just keep getting worse over time. By slow I mean it'll take months to a year before it really becomes annoying.
>>585988081A new operation Katina would be great to have again. It could be all planes get them but it was the only one to show that icon and nothing else. No idea what caused that glitch but it lets us know we're getting Trigger skins when the icon is in the base game.
>Ace S, Multirole only, no damageI did it buddies.Somehow missed the m29 ace and the Fatsia medal though.Probably gonna finish those off then take a break for a bit before I do the rest of the medals and achievements
>>585988081C'mon let my boy rest, he's earned it
>>585989148But did you do the F-18C run yet?
>>585989148How did you do no damage without being sniped by AA? Honest question.
>>585989372That'll likely be at least a year from nowI don't think I ever finished my F-16 no parts run of 7>>585989420This was only my second playthrough so I didn't have enough MRP for this part until mission 11 or 12 iirc? I think I got it after the Podarge mission. The early missions were fun trying to find blindspots and snipe AA, but seeing the AA density on some later levels like 25 I'm not sure I'm good enough or patient enough to do it without this part.
I'm on my second playthrough. Fuck, Baxter's death still gets me. When he tells Coster that he's our wingman now, it's like a punch in the gut.
>>585989230If theres any AC protagonist who is done with everybody's bs and is willing to give up the pilots life...Its probably Blaze but Trigger might be in second place. Mostly because his government keeps trying to assassinate him.
>>585989883Its fun to do I did it for my first run of the game. Going in blind with a C was different it made some missions really intense other were fine. A word of advice make sure you always give someone an EW plane you you'll need it when doing a C run during the later levels.
>>585990103Blaze definitely became a personal Harling glowie after 5, that man ain't retiring
Has anyone tried the AC6 recomp on Steam Deck?I remember it didn't launch at all when I tried emulating it.Or I guess I could just play X instead
I just played the Megafloat mission. It was absolutely lame. Wet fart of a mission.Fleet Destruction is so much better and it's not even funny. All Megafloat is is "shoot the pillers" and that's it. That's the whole mission, other than an easy tunnel run.
The missile knew where I was but I was already invincible when it found me.
>>585990843it's fun if you try to facefuck it and take it slow but bombs in this game as so fucking broken you can lob 6 SODs at it and end the mission instantly
>>585991026I didn't even use bombs, just regular missiles.
>>585991026Yeah, the "difficulty" in that mission is fighting with the dogshit targeting system if you make the mistake of solely bringing guided weapons.>do you want to attack the truck?>how about the SAM?>AA?>another truck?>Battlecruiser?>occluded pillar?>SAM?
>>585990843Some arms have a LNG ship near them sink it the chain will blow up an entire arm.
>>585991382I noticed that and will probably use that next run.But what I want from a mission, especially a late game missile, is variety and challenge. RAILGUN WARNING isn't a challenge, it's just something to dodge by flying low - which you'll be doing anyway to hit the pillers.
I knew online was dead, but I didn't know it was THIS dead.>I keep seeing the same names. I must be in the highest SBMM tier.
>>585991558Online is so dead that if you try to join a game as a nugget, everyone else on your team instantly leaves.
>>585991647I've reached the point where I'm questioning if people are actually deliberately leaving. I think some people might be crashing and then the game auto-kills the lobby. I know I would be 200% A-OK with three AI teammates in assault/warfare missions whose sole purpose is to roll the dice for an emergency sortie.
>>585991452I know what you mean I was really let down by that mission. 30 seconds after I start the attack its already mostly dead. I really don't know what they were thinking when they designed this mission. 30 might be annoying but at least it gives you something to do this one is over in like 30 seconds.
>>585992106I think they thought "wow, the players will have lots of targets and the pillars are like Fleet Destruction!"But the problem is Fleet Destruction has a tunnel run section where you take out a whole airfield all at once, and this... doesn't have that...
>>585991769I've had a few times where the game times out and kicks me back to the menu when I'm on the loading screen. I assume in those cases everyone else gets kicked back to lobby.Assault at least will pad out the teams with up to four bots if it can't find enough humans in time. If it finds a human and they lose connection then it kills the game, but if it can't find a human in the first place it's fine with it. Which makes the game a lot more enjoyable since these maps don't have enough enemies for eight people.
>>585989910As long and drawn out as that scene is and the Kate fakeout being like a brick thrown at an otherwise okay scene, it's probably the most emotional deaths of one of our squadmates. I still think Chopper's death is better overall but Baxter's death hurts bad.
>>585992106I slammed into the central spire the first time I played because I assumed it was like 7 and you needed to tunnel run to knock out all the platforms at once. I think they really wanted to make 8 as normalfag friendly as possible so they cut out anything that requires a modicum of piloting ability. End result is that 7 has far more unique missions despite being 2/3 as long.
>>585983804This guys penis >>585984289
>>585992465Here's a picture I took of it a while ago just because. So the game is willing to give you bot teammates, it just only does it in specific circumstances.
>>585991558>sbmmlollmao
>>585992947I think the game gives bot teammates when matchmaker is not finding enough people, but it doesn't replace people that leave with bots.
>>585991558That just means there are 287 lobbies that have 100 people in them and that's why you can't join those :^)
>>585991558More number they could be important
>>585993286It will replace people with bots as long as the game has already started. You can see that Barry bot in this screenshot inherited the score of the guy he replaced, since bots can't get points. Also because it's Barry, the bots that are there from the start are always Chie and Lisa on one team and Lee and Emma on the other.I think the inheriting score thing is broken too since our rank magically changed from S to A once the round ended. That was pretty bullshit.
>>585989910> Tasha...Tasha...uh, nevermind, Coster...Actually really funny moment in an otherwise sad scene.
Spent the better part of an hour trying to solo Moon 11 guns only no damage the MiG-21 is such a piece of shit for this fight swear to god. She'll snap into low speed then go so slow your mig can't maneuver at that rate. Switching the squad to SASM jets and Morgans fuck this.
>morgans slapping the exterior of chandelier with burst missiles by shooting at dotted targets while I'm trying to tunnel run in the frogfootI got 66k points that run. I think I knocked out 70% of the mission targets.
I wonder how Ukrainians feel about a studio basically adopting their propaganda mythos for the story outline of a video game.I really don't see the parallels and references discussed often. Like Fort Grays and Ukrainian pockets in Azovstal that received far less attention than a fictional pilot ace, or the prologue map being 1:1 based on the bridge from Ukraine to Crimea.
>>585995291feel like theyve got bigger things to worry about than some plane autists in japan
>>585995291Ace Combat game about a war that's been going on for 4+ years and all the combatants on both sides are 40 year old men
Are there any planes that I should unlock next? I guess I haven't properly invested into a fighter. 9 levels of nig31 was the maximum extent that I could stay awake with using LAAMs. I'm honestly just considering stockpiling enough gold blueprints to limit break a top tier fighter and then going into hibernation until season 2.
>>585996334Migger IS the top tier fighter, nothing else comes close, you're cooked.
Just beat topkek.His fight is indeed cancer, but only due to gun ammunition being finite and the fight being not just him. I shot him down first, but nearly ran out of ammo fighting his flunkies. Literally took my last bullet.But I beat him.
>>585996545I guess maybe I'll just be waiting for F-14 Razgriz.
>>585996664you dont even need to shoot his flunkies, missiles can handle them
>>585996740Not from what I observed. It doesn't really matter if you're behind them, they are constantly turning.
>>585996334You don't really need a fighter when you have TLS Morgan sitting right there. But if you want to dogfight, SASM Eagle or QAAM Viper are both good at tier 2 (30 gold blueprints).At tier 3 it'd be Game and Felon respectively
why does purple magic give you shit for not being there to defend the airbasewe're retaking the fucking capital
>>585997352That's true. I guess I'm missing a full fledged ECM plane too. But I think I might just use Morgan and bide my time.
>>585995291>basically adopting their propaganda mythos for the story outline of a video gamethere's really no similarityjust having a pilot with the nickname "the [Noun] of [Capital City]" isn't enough to say thatit would be like if someone got inspired by Star Wars and decided to write a story where the bad guy wore black armor and had a red sword but literally every other detail about the story was differentlike he's a red-sword-wielding, black-armored samurai in ancient Japan and they're fighting a war that started over an inheritance dispute against some other faction that's summoning oni demons and someone's desperately trying to tell me, "no, really, this is like 100% based on Star Wars"at some point it's so far-removed from whatever may or may not have inspired it that the connection doesn't even matter anymoreyou could even call that samurai "Vaderu-sama" or something and it wouldn't make one story the same as the other>the parallels >Like Fort Grays and Ukrainian pockets in Azovstalthey are nothing alike, at all, except in that both groups stayed in a place for longer than others would think was normalthis is an incredibly surface-level understanding of things>or the prologue map being 1:1 based on the bridge from Ukraine to Crimeathere is no bridge like that between Ukraine and CrimeaCrimea is a peninsulathe E97 motorway passes over landthe E105 has two tiny bridges over the Chongar Strait, and the T2202 also has a tiny bridge just north of Armyansk, but each of these are like 200 feet long, if not shorterthat's the length of like two aisles in a normal American grocery storeif you meant the Kursk bridge between Crimea and Krasnodar (to the east of Crimea), then it just doesn't look like the bridge from the prologuethere are at least a few similarities herebut the path that the bridge takes is different, the architecture is different, the island is different, and the vertical supports look completely differentsee pic related
>>585998502>just having a pilot with the nickname "the [Noun] of [Capital City]" isn't enough to say thatIt is when paired with a glownigger fake-news psyop where Noun of Capital is being falsely attributed fabricated victories.
is it better to use cheap planes to engage in harassment pvp? i feel like it's better to use cheap planes to engage in harassment pvp.
>S ranked all missions on Ace now after a Ace career re-runFuck Two on the Run, did it all in the F/A-18E
Do we think there'll ever be a Switch 2 port?
>>585998835maybe if you're absolutely fucking determined to force a square peg into a round holeif the FCU had just undergone a coup of its last government, backed by the Osean state department, and if the new replacement government were then responding to ethnically-Sotoan minorities in Usea calling for independence and reunification with Sotoa by going to war with them, which then prompted the Sotoans to start sending in their own troops to Usea with all of their national emblems and uniform patches taken off while pretending that they weren't doing it, and if the war went on from there, THEN I'd start listeningbut I think that "what if the real story wasn't actually true, and you, the protagonist, had to step up to try to fill those shoes" is just too vague of a story idea, even when combined with calling him "Noun of Capital," to go "this is 1,000% Russia vs. Ukraine!!!"some things can just be passing inspirations or incidental similaritiesthat doesn't then turn the whole rest of the story into an allegorythat's the main point I'm trying to make
>>585998502This is a weird hill to die on seeing as not even Ukrainians deny the inspiration
>>585999367You can give up your attempts at pilpul. Nobody's falling for it.
The FCU's fucking capital, which did not even have a name until 8, is named Theve which rhymes with Kyiv. Katabuchi knows writers who use subtext and he thinks they're all cowards. But I think any allusions to the war in Ukraine stop there, unless you wanna stretch the chucklefuck FCU separatists into being stand ins for Donetsk and Luhansk. Hell there's barely even any drones and that's like THE thing for Ukraine right now.
>>585999282the minimum hardware requirements are absolutely retarded so no
>>585999435>a Ukrainian news site says "hey, that reminds us of us!">welp, that settles it, that's all the proof I need>This is a weird hill to die>weirdI don't care if you think it's weird, I care whether or not it's rightstop arguing from social consensus like a womaneither find something logically or factually wrong with >>585998502 or give up>>585999748I have no idea what this is supposed to mean
>>585999804desu being this assmad about allegory is either because you are a vatnik or extremely autistic. It was too on the nose from the moment the title was revealed
>>585999890>you are a vatnikoh, you have the>I must force literally everyone who disagrees with me into a single categorykind of retardation
no one cares about your gay ass psuedo euro war, dumbasses
>>586000121nooooo anon don't you have Media Literacy™??? (it means that you have to agree with me or I get to call you names)
>>585998424I'll always shill the Growler if you need EW, especially since you already have 30 blueprints banked up. But if you understandably don't want to spend 60 at once, the Barricader is obviously very good too.>>585999228Fishbed would be perfect for this with QAAM SASM. Its low cost means you give away fewer points when you die, and your respawns are fast as fuck
>>586000303What's the fucking difference between Lv20 EA games and E18G?
Why do Americans always get angry at the drop of a hat when Euros are mentioned
>>586000401ECM counters the ESM portion of IEWS, then you pop your own ESM boosted by your Lv20 ability to exploit the IEWS downtime
>>586000560pardon me for not being educated in EW bullshit but what's the difference between ECM and ESM?
>>586000678ESM is super missiles for alliesECM is jamming enemiesIEWS is both in one special weapon
>>586000745so basically it's just saving your super mode by using your defensive super to cancel enemies 2 in 1 super mode? I guess this doesn't matter if I'm an assault player?
>>586000984Yes.I assume it doesn't matter? I honestly only play Assault for the daily
>>586001104meh, guess I'll just go with ease of use
For me it's The Front Line from Ace Combat (PS1)
For me? It's Skygunner on the PS2
At the party sceneShe's looking at me all the timeBut if I look at her she shooks awayWhat's her problem?Should I report her to he XO?
For me it's Raycrisis on PS1
>>585935224Hehehe this is like the F15EX
Anyone played Snoopy vs the red baron on PS2?
for me it's >>586002646 anon's ballsack because of his chad taste in video games
They make a tiny CIWS? Look at him he's micro machines.
>>585935224this comic is literally 14 years old btw
>finally get a chance to play ac0 and see what the fuss is all about>visions of a convincing villain and pixy's inevitable betrayal in my head>he (justifiably) crashes over Hoffnung but then says if they (the belkan planes carrying nukes) blow everything up, the war would endIT MATTERS WHO IS THE ONE BLOWING EVERYTHING UP, PIXY. BUT ALSO BLOWING EVERYTHING UP WILL NOT CHANGE HUMAN NATURE.You guys fucking lied to me. Pixy is a retard.
>>586002646i should revisit this now that i'm all grown up
>>586003083i don't think anyone ever claimed pixy was smart
>>586002906eventually it'll just be crewmen standing on the deck with chaingun SMGs from Black Ops 4
It's weird how they brought back on-map resupply for this game but never let you land on the damn Endurance when it's actually present on the map.
>>586004098The even better thing is you can land on a carrier and resupply, as long as you're playing the free flight/training mode online. That's the only time you can do it. That was worth spending dev time on.
>>586003083If you don't understand Pixy's motives, you need to read theory.
F22 being lewd
>>586004098but were there any missions where it would've made sense within the context of the events in the mission to land on the Endurance?I can't think of any missions with the Endurance present where it wasn't also an escort targetthey can't really let you go sit on the deck when the thing is under attackthat would undermine the urgency and vulnerability of it as an escort targetI know that they undermine plenty of other systems (like the mission timer, when the resupply animation shows you going back to a base hundreds of miles away when you supposedly only had 4 minutes left to complete the urgent mission objectives, and you'll still have 4 minutes when you get back from your hours-long trip), but I guess this would just be a bridge too far
Trying to emulate AC3 and I get hit with this. Anyone got a solution?
>Well then, do we stay here and aid the besieged San Salvacion, or leave them to fend for themselves and chart a course north? Much lies in this decisionI got fucking baited hard into thinking we were getting branching missions like X this isn't fair
>>586004571
>>586004680San Salvacion isn't under siege and wants you to fuck off so helping them was never going to be an option.
>>586006706I hope they appreciate Land Battleship 1's dumper pooping in their lawn then, could've at least hired us to keep the pests away
so why is bombing run not the first thing they tried on battleship 1?
>>585972082is it possible to finish that mission without landing to rearm?
>>586007000It doesn't though. It's near them but it never actually attacks them. San Salvacion is neutral and never gets attacked the entire war. They just watch.
>>586007185I think getting the treads fucking up your land is bad enough to not want them around
>>586007232It doesn't. It never enters San Salvacion territory. It gets very close but that's it. San Salvacion remains completely untouched at the end of the game.
>>586007143You need a bunker buster armed bomber to do any kind of damage to the battleships and unless you have some cannon fodder distracting it then it will just snipe them before they can even drop the bombs
>>586007689They got Rex, unless the prep time is too short to plan out something more elaborate since it's literally coming in the next day after the liberation?
>>586007849That and seeing how they started using bombers for the two other battleships after probably means they already tried something like that before but ended in disaster. They only reconsidered such strategy after seeing what Rex could do.
Has anyone downloaded the repack for 8? The one with hypervisor? What even is that?
>>586009347I don't know much but from what I understand it's a way to get around DRM. But it runs at the kernel level to be able to do that so if you run it you're giving it a lot of control over your PC. If the people who made it had bad intentions you'd be pretty fucked. Though it's possible they didn't and it'll be totally fine, can't be sure.
>>586009494>But it runs at the kernel levelWhy the fuck would you use that
Big flashlight.
>>586009808free video games :^)
How is the AC3 Recomp? Worth a playthrough for the better visuals? I have the original emulated on the Deck but maybe I can get the HD version running there as well.
>>586009347>The one with hypervisor? What even is that?It's a way of playing videogames that essentially opens your computer's asshole wide open for anyone to peek in.I ain't touching that shit ever.
>>586010183They're not very free if it bricks your entire pc
>>585989910>Baxter pointing to Coster in his dying breath "Coster, there is a book I want you to read in my cabin, it will explain everything!">Later that week "What happened to your guitar Coster?">Coster polishing his gun "At last my eyes were opened for I was blind to the Nomad problem!"
>>585986971Is this true?
Amidst the eternal waves of timeFrom a ripple of change shall the storm riseOut of the abyss peer the eyes of a demonBehold the Razgriz, its wings of black shit
>>586012219It's so fucking funny how an Anean folklore is more popular in Osea, Yuktobania and Sotoa
I miss the Emmerians.
>>586012219maybe it's not just regional folkloremaybe it's part of a worldwide religionmaybe Strangereal has constant apocalyptic wars because they all worship a religion with fucking demons in itthey're all like "WWRD?" and the answer is "kill kill kill death kill"
>>586013292>Strangereal has constant apocalyptic warsnah it's just Usea and some bad apples like Sotoa and Belka, otherwise it's pretty peaceful
>>586013292I'm getting more German opera vibes of Razgriz than proper religion
>>586013292Are their wars really apocalyptic? The Sotoan-FCU war seemed to be among the worst we've seen, but killed "only" a million people. WW1, Russian Civil War, WW2, Korea, Chinese Civil War, Vietnam, Iran-Iraq, and GWOT as a whole all have casualties which exceed this. The presentation is epic, but in terms of actual doctrine, Strangereal countries actually seem more reserved than we do. They love war more than us, but not as much as we love genocide.
>>586013896>killed "only" a million peopleThey didn't count the dead Sotoans as they aren't considered people.
>>586013896>but killed "only" a million peopleI don't believe those numbers tbqhwy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngqyuaBRWxD57ERwOUhI_ZbTj10N1glGQofficial (selected) soundtrack rip
>>586013896Also, according to the game itself, each Tonitrus spear has a yield of 10 tons of TNT, which means each is equivalent to a MOAB. This doesn't match up at all with the visuals, which looks more like a 10 KILOtons at least, but it lore wise, I guess this is why using tonitrus isn't considered as evil as dropping actual nuclear bombs
>>586013292>they all worship a religion with fucking demons in itall major religions have demons
>>586015826not alland usually not as the heroes
>>586015986which major religions don't have demons?
>>586015643>11 unavailable videos are hidden
>>586016463might be a timezone thing, I'm in NZ
>>586016531>the album art is just the same aerial view of Toronto that they show at the start of your average Hockey Night in Canada broadcastyeah this is a bit of a fucking let-down
>>586015738I wonder if they originally intended it to be way worse but change it through development because yeah shit doesn't add up.
A HUUGE gem of a video dropped on my feedFor all the AC OST fags like me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1beXOXpziUk
>>586016531>>586016776the chase for photorealism has been a disaster for art
>>586013896How big is Strangereal to begin with? Maybe 1 million was proportionally closer to worst wars in real life than through raw numbers.The continent seems really tiny when playing the games.>>586015738Continuing from my earlier paragraph, maybe they are all midgets!
>>586018598>How big is Strangereal to begin with?Strangereal is Earth. It's identical in every way aside from the landmasses and the countries. Usea is about the size of the entirety of Eurasia, though oddly equatorial. https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/strangereal-81baafa546184c298e971b5c9a90c2bd
>>586013896The FCU/Sotoa war only having a million dead can make sense when you realize the Sotoans are doing Mongol shit, which is to terrorize and massacre a few towns/cities to pacify the rest of their territories because their main goal are territory and slaves
>>585964983>"what the fuck is an ace combat"
>>586019143very neat, thanks for linking that
>>586019143I just don't get the geography of that planet. None of the weather makes any sense.
>>585964983damn, maybe liking this glorified crybaby (8 years old) pacifier is worth it after all
>>586021318You were still using a pacifier at 8 years old?
>>586023493yeah, the game
>>586023592I lost :(
>we will never EVER get another AC trailer as good as 5's trailershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0WUypLOfeUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZWzyQiAVQ
>>586024619https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp5saJUiUGk
>>586010892it's not half bad, but it's definitely very early days. It's surreal seeing AC3 maps with this much geometry. I'm pretty sure the upgraded models/maps/visuals are only in the first mission at the momentit does have options for 1:1 and a clean look for the visuals too which help, and while there's probably still a ton of bugs, I did see someone in the github issues page say that they made it through all five routes, so it does work for what you might want it for
>>586025326Can we port AC8/AC7 versions of the mission maps into AC3?
Round 2 of the Japan video submission campaign has the following theme:【私にくぐれぬ穴はない!】or "There’s no hole I can’t squeeze through!"
>>586007668That's not true, it reaches the Stonehenge which is in San Salvacion.
>>586019143Usea is much smaller than that. It's more the size of europe alone if you look at the area 900km range battleship guns cover.
>>586015738Tonitrus Spears main damage comes from its kinetic energy, not the explosive yield.
>>586013896FCU-Sotoan war lasts much less time those wars you mention. Thats why its not doing the aame numbers. In terms of deaths per day, its up there with the worst.
reminder this motherfucker is only five years older than dision
>>586026651I love when it comes to koreans, japs love to draw them more accurately asian.
>>586026498tons of TNT is a unit of energy though. It doesn't care where that energy comes from.
>>586026141I just checked the maps ingame and now I'm confused.On the main campaign menu San Salvacion is a big country that contains Stonehenge.On the free mission screen San Salvacion is way smaller and there's another country beneath it, which contains Stonehenge.This is very strange.
>>586028637Free mission maps change depending on which mission you select.
>>585994568>Guns only>No damage runYou have no one to blame but yourself for this madness
>>586028826But the borders don't. There's clearly another country there. Now that I look most of the older maps have that unnamed country too, so I guess they decided to change it for 8? But they forgot to update the free mission map.Though it also makes more sense for the plot for Stonehenge to be in another country because if it is part of San Salvacion then them not reacting at all to Sotoa invading them is weird.Shit I don't know.
>having trouble taking care of this ace while dodging the lasers>tell pixy to blow his shit off>instantly does so within 1 second of the commandToday's wingmen just aren't on his level i fear
>>586029424A possible reading is that San Salvacion and the country below it unified, possibly to present a united front against Erusea to the west and the still growing FCU to the east.Then when shit got bad and the Sotoans invaded perhaps they split apart again.The main campaign map also has the old FCU borders on it, as the Endurance does not recognise these traitors waggling their tail for Sotoa as legitimate countries. So perhaps it also didn't update the San Salvacion borders, maybe as a way of showing solidarity in not recognising splinter states.
>>586007143FCU is to poor to afford B-2's while a B-21 is just out of the question meaning they couldn't sneak up on it. If you had been playing as Osea once more. You would have had choices in how to deal with them >Play it like it was Magic Spear and spot for the B-2's>Take a railgun equipped plane and fuck it up yourself.>Both when your in the mood for some crispy tasty air fryer cooked Sotoan's
>>586029572You and he were buddies weren't you?
>>586028637That's just an internal border, FCU gets many of them too.
>>586030579Borders are meaningless anyway...
>>586025326Now it looks like a generic plane game all the soul and feel is lost in this onePass
Are we allowed to admit yet that 6 was miles better than 7 and 8 and the games have only been regressing since then?
>>586031093If you are asking for permission then you clearly don't have confidence to back up your opinion and really shouldn't be posting it then, but I'll let you off the hook if you solve a maths problem?
>>586019143Strangreal is much smaller than earth if you use the battleship range projections for scale.
>>586032209Strangereal is a strange place where they make it up as they go along.
>>586032209Doesn't work when you have longitude and latitude locations for every mission since 4. We know exactly where each nation and battle is located in comparisons to the real world.
>>586032553Then the fcu is really bad a projecting weapons ranges, which I suppose checks out now that I think about it.
>>586032960Frankly its par for the course that the military is retarded in an AC game and fuck up weapon ranges. Baxter should make them solve more maths problems.
My Regis Alti?Hortus.
if borders didnt exist thatd mean belkans and sotoans would have free access travel to the planetno thanks
Is there a way to make ACX run at 60 fps in ppsspp
>>586032960If the FCU was smart they wouldn't have needed mercs to save their asses twice in the 90's then a pilot from North Point, followed by a dude from Osea and now a headless murder machine. Par for course for them.But if you got some time go pick some levels you liked put the locations into google and see where it takes place in the real world its kind of fun to see
>>586034821Nope someone tried a few years ago it makes the game play at double speed.
>>586031092I should point out that you can turn all that off and play the game 1:1 with the original releaseI'd say this one will be worthwhile overall just for playing the missions in 16:9 even if there were no other changes
>>586034693>Sotoans? In MY space elevator?>It's more likely than you think!
>>586010170Now that I think of it, it's odd that the (player's) Morgan's TLS can only fire directly forwards despite having a clearly modeled lens gimbal. There should have been an option to be able to lock the laser on a single target to deep-fry it, in the same vein as the F-104's GRKT in AC7.
>>586035413True, the TLS is too weak and needs automated target tracking so you don't have to manually aim it.
>>586035413I can't actually think of a worse thing to add to MP than a lock-on hitscan weapon.
>>586035413Wow! That sounds like a fucking horrible idea!Unless it was limited to campaign, in which case maybe not totally awful for a cheesy ez mode weapon. Though it already is to some extent
>>586034821set your display to 120hz or higher and then>go to the PPSSPP settings>on system, set "real clock sync" to on>on tools, go to developer tools>general>frame rate mode and set "force 60hz">on tools, go to graphics and set your display refresh rate on "Display Refresh Rate"
Twin seaters are UGLY
>>586035578It also needs way more ammo, it makes no sense that MGPs get over a thousand bullets but TLS gets only 7.
>>586035856>not holding hands with your WSO
>>586035856>t.Tasha who was made to sit as Kate's WSO after pissing her off too much
>>586035856F/A-18F looks alright as a twin seater, the bigger canopy looks proportionally more fitting to the size of the plane.However, it'd be much better looking if it was a single seater and the whole rest of the plane was smaller.You know what's really ugly? The hunchback on the EW variant of FA-36.
>>586035287>playing the missions in 16:9 I don't care about that personally it doesn't bother me one bit to play a game in 4:3. I looked at gameplay of it even the big bullseye and stuff are put in green box it just feels dull yeah visually it does look better cleaner but that is all it has going for it otherwise it just feels dull. Uhhh its like the game is here but they sucked all the life out of it.Its just not for me and I shall pass on it.
>>586035413>>586035906You can have aiming and infinite ammo on the condition it takes like 10 seconds of burning to actually do damage. And not much damage.
>>586035578>>586035772>>586035604Oh it'd be nutty in multiplayer but I imagine it could be (somewhat) balanced by having it use mechanics similar to a SAAM in that you have to keep the target inside an aiming circle for the laser to track. The tradeoff is that the aiming circle could be a lot smaller than that of the SAAM. Picrel is what I had in mind.
>>586036782you can toggle between old and new UI
>>586037061The TLS is already disgustingly powerful in multiplayer with no tracking. Even weak tracking would be a strict buff.
>>586037061TLS is already good and your suggestion of a giant hitbox buff would make it incredibly overpowered. You need to learn to play better instead of asking for buffs like that.
>>586035906How does it make no sense? It makes a lot of sense if you ask me
>>586037621I'm not asking you
>>586037747Well I'm asking you because I'd like to take a peek inside your mind to understand your retarded nigger logic
>48 year old queen becomes fighter pilotI love pilot bitches. AC related because there are women pilots in the game.
>>586037863I'm not going to explain because you're already approaching it from a place of negativity, judging by how you're throwing slurs. Fix your own life first.
>>586037914But have we got teenage schoolgirls becoming aces yet?
>>586037258Yeah I saw you can but once again the recomp ain't for me I'll pass.
>>586038181Never. We need more hags who look like they're 25.
>>586039312That Gripen looks weird.Maybe someone should revoke it.
>>586039312I'm gonna miss the Revokers goofy pug nose when the updated model arrives
>>586032553You can have latitude/long on other planets. How lat/long translates to kilometers depends on the radius of the planet. Just because the missions have lat/longs doesn't necessarily mean that strangreal doesn't have a smaller radius than Earth.
https://x.com/CandydragonTH/status/2115820967750709754?a=6218ygb-lsFK4yOQtdA&s=19
>>586035856Two seater Flanker is sex. Two seater F-15 and 18 are ok. Everythng else is pig disgusting.
>>586040632tits too big + too muscled + looks white instead of hapaepic fail
>>586035856two seaters are based when you have a cute WSO cheering you on
>>586035856>He doesn't want to hold his WSO's hand while sending Sotoans to the promise land>He doesn't want to make out with K8 post game>He will never send paper airplanes in the cockpit containing love notesNever gonna make it.
>>586039312Thrust vectoring owns the sky
I only have missions 28-30 to do but damn why the heck is M28 apparently freaking 30 mins long? It feels daunting to even try
violently submitting my cute rookie WSO to high G forces against her will
>>586041070Prez vs Eye-Tee who is cuter and smells better?
>>586041454>CuterPrez>Smells betterEye-Tee
>>586041454>Mercenary woman who has to spend hours hours at a time in a jumpsuit. Days without showers during the game>Average IT nerd on reservesI'm biased but Eye-Tee is cute if you're a dick and bring her to the highway level.
>>586041291>nose falls off at the end
Will AC9 finally give us a cute backseater
>>586040459Yeah you can but they didn't its Earth but strange both Earths are the same size.
>>586041970Its so odd we have so many characters in 8 we still don't have a proper WSO despite Rex literally starts and ends the game as one. Its even crazier PA clearly played PW and was inspired by it.
>>586041970AC9 will make you the cute backseater
The problem with the WSO being an actual character is that it basically forces you to bring a two-seater to every mission so you can have that dialogue. I guess they could be given their own aircraft otherwise, but then that'd mean that taking a two-seater would deprive you of a wingman. Maybe have them help operate the AWACS?
>>586043278You really want to bring your WSO on a tunnel run?
>>586043648Yes. [ >
>>586042368probably didn't work with the story because rex and baxter crash in mission 13 and if you bring a WSO to that then they have to have two versions of a pretty involved cutscene to explain where the WSO is
>>586040632KILL yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixldeBSgA6w
>>586041893>Built by Boeing Checks out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vg-3nfKnsgHuh, so you can blow it up.
so basically the Su-37 owns every single mission in ACZ
>>586044463Looks like teach gave her some extra classes
>>586045597Huh to bad you don't get special lines then later you only face one of them.
>>586045597>>586046068Does it lead to a unique encounter in mission 15 though that is the question?
>>586046407no, it's just a silly way to insta-clear the mission
>>586046407idk did that guy try a story run to find out?Its the kind of tism details I would expect from PA but did they do it is the question.
>>586029572The Belkan war is basically strangereals age of hero's. The average quality of pilot is implied to be better back then, and this also applies to allies. Its also implied that Cipher was such a menace that he decreased the quality of pilots worldwide after his rampage was through
>>586046617I understand it's points based but it's funny that killing their experimental bomber means the land battleship will have trouble resupplying
>>586046407if this was ACX it would do thatbut alas, PA can't replicate something they did on the PSP
So what was your very first contact with Ace CombatFor me it was a Zero demo that came in one of those official ps2 magazine demo dvds, it was mission 5 and and a round table furball one where Schnee squadron showed up, and you could pick the F-18C or 15C
>>586047581>The average quality of pilot is implied to be better back thenwas it? where? all i've ever heard is characters calling belka's old air force "legendary"
>>585992721>finally get the Low Speed Turning ability for the FrogfootHOLY SHITAFTER 15 LEVELS THIS THING FINALLY ISN'T A BRICKIT FINALLY FLIES LIKE A BRICK WITH WINGS
>>586048167X on adrenaline around 2018/2019Got filtered by gleipnir, 2021 i got ac7 then slowly went back and played the rest of the mainline series including x
>>586048167>what the fuck is a belka or that guySaw plenty of Pixy on /v/ along the years>eh a boring day I'll emulate something ps2Tried 4 and that was that, few years ago now.
god, glatisant is such a shit mission
>Rocky Island is part of the FalklandsAh, no wonder it was so bloody important.
><< My plane's getting swiss cheesed! >>what other earth countries exist in strangereal?
>>586049584imagine a falklands war ace combat where it's just north point brits kicking the shit out of seething argies for 30 hours
>>586049862check the flag on terminator's tail
https://youtu.be/U49AvUl535AThis needs to be a mod(e) in 8. Fighting every Lux Lunae squadron all at the same time could be fun.
>>586050432>over 150 or however many overlapping WHOA HO HO OOOH WHAOAH chants at once
How? I didn't kill the Ace F-1, I was busy running away from the sky laserDid Pixy kill it for me?
>>585935108/f1/ is too powerful for a crossover
Favorite flag in Ace Combat?
>>586045761Yes, the FAEBs are OP.
>>586045761I laughed my ass off when I got to the XB-0 in 0 and I'd just unlocked the FAEB, which deleted every single target on the thing with one drop, and destroyed it completely with the second
>>586050870https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEnk_aSoa0A
>>586050870Estovakia
>>586050950>>586051159great for mass deletion of yellow targets in a mercenary run too
>>586045597>UNKILLABLE>IMPOSSIBLEWe've known this was possible since like the first week the game came out. I wish all faggot clickbait youtubers a very kill themselves.
When you think about it it's pretty wild that 30 years and like 15 games into a series they can still deliver such a killer new entryWhy can't other devs do the same with their series
>>586050870
>>586050537https://youtu.be/kuixe4Bt1Qg
KIIOINO
>>586054234
The Emmerian Air Force absolutely dogwalks every Osean / Usean / Verusan air force in terms of average pilot quality and it isn't close.
>>586050870I would say Emmeria or Erusea but I got reminded that this flag exists
>>586050870I Accept No Substitutes.
>>586056014Just what is the meaning of the yellow stripe in the black part?
>>586055670Go dance with the angels, you pasta fucks. Emmerians suck just as much dick as every Strangereal military, everyone forgets their regular performance is garbage because Talisman can tardwrangle them with Allied Attacks. That, and Shamrock isn't cucked by a damage debuff like the dudes kn 7 snd 8.
>>586056125We just don't know.Perhaps representing the Waldreichs as a border between 'the rest' of Belka and the Holy Land itself.
>>586056131Osea is a joke.Imagine training nuggets so poorly they do not know how to climb to 5000ft (aka "GO UP") or sending actual convicts to a penal squadron to fly plane while most of your superweapon get hijacked. Joke country.
>change lobby>they're all sub 10 peopleis ACO just that dead now?
>>586057223That's what happens when you bar the ever growing Linux userbase from playing...
>belkans starting falseflag flamewars on strangechan>again
>>586057439Its literally Belkan culture to do a false flag attacks.
>>586057439featherhands typed this post
>>586057713>featherhandsOpinion discarded. Either you're a Belkan agitator or you're a "noble" Sotoan larper. Everyone knows real Sotoans are dirtfarmer nomads who can't afford internet, because their government stole everything from them.
>>586052820Sure it's targetable and you can shoot it, but it wasn't confirmed you could actually bring it down in that mission because it fucks off so fast.
>>586058134I saw a jap shooting it down. Fuck if I could find the tweet again.
>>586046639It was done on free mission and considering there are carryovers from other points in the campaign it could well be a possibility. >>586050046Mean that pretty much was the Rocky Island mission itself?
>>586052820Funny thing is you can also shoot down Tewy if you are fast enough in earlier missions. No idea what happens to the rest of the campaign though as only seen it done in free mission.
I'm planning to replay AC5 soon, suggest planes to use.
>>586058483F-15\MTD
>>586058483
>>586058483F-5E the whole way through
>>586058483hawk is unironically bestplen
>>586057439Everyone talks about their military tech but everyone ignores their cool civilian shit. I got myself a Belkan PC for $10,000 and this shitbox still holds up better than modern computers. Only weird thing is that my mouse moves on its own every now and then.
>>586058483https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meKOJW-miLI
>>586058639>>586058642>>586059325thank you buddies, I'll put these to use for myself or my wingmen>>586058720that would be challenging, but I would find looking at the same plane the whole game a bit boring>>586058732I'll use that for at least one mission :)
>>586059913>I'll use that for at least one mission :)>not styling on belkan elites in a silly trainer planeqaams and a stall speed so slow that the enemy ai breaks itself is an amazing experience
>>586060254I'll try that then
Would it be possible to reverse engineer features from 8 into 7? I'm mostly thinking of squadron controls.
>>586060764Do AC7 squadmates even shoot enemies down. I can't recall from my multiple playthroughs hearing them say "FOX 2, Bandit down" or something along those lines.
>>586061074They can, but you have to damage them first (since they do so little on their own) and so it's basically just killstealing.
>>586061160Figured as much. Glad that they are somewhat useful in AC8, I've seen Kate shoot down Shadows on her own couple of times.
>>586061331i was playing 7 not long before 8's release and i saw an enemy plane take like 5 or 6 missiles from my allies to no effect
I don't understand why the menu for putting emblems on your plane has to be in a separate submenu not accessible from the plane selection screenFuck you and your ass backwards retarded UI design, Japan
7 is "the player does everything, allies don't matter, full arcade experience"8 is "your allies matter, they can even die, but it all peaks at the end when you fight 1000 enemies with them"
>>586059035you too? i love my belkan pager, it's such a great deVJASDOPF
>>586060764Depends on if you want it hand coded or are fine with a.i coding it
Sword of Annihilation has to be the lamest "superweapon" mission in the series>basically no threat at all from excalibur if you just fly fast>barely anything on the ground shooting at you>no enemy fighters defending excalibur, you'd think belka would have a few fighters patrolling the area, but nah>no ace fight>barely any radio chatter, bland music, feels like a complete nothingburger of a sortie when it should be a huge deal (this is a problem with most of zero though)>had almost no previous buildup leading to itWhat a shit fucking mission
So is the commander of the landship we fight in theve the same guy who commands Fatsia? Both are named D. Ishaq. How'd he even get back to Fatsia after getting gassed in theve once his ship got turned over?
I'm breathing shallow and my tongue is dryBecome a shadow as my thoughts slip byLast one in the sunAnd still the first to see morning lightMy blue sky hooooomeThe miles alooooneI've fell and floooownMy blue sky hooooomeNobody is comingCould be my coffinIf i burned like a star, would you be my witness?CALL ME UUUUUUUUUUUP, I'VEGOT TO FEEEEEEEEL ALIVECALL ME UUUUUUUUUUUP, HIGHSET ME FREEEEEEEEEE TO FLYMY BLUE SKY HOOOOOME
>>586057223I have no idea how the change lobby system works. When I check "other lobby" I get random collection of 2-3 lobbies but then I go ahead and check out "squadron member's lobby" and find multiple people in different 100 person lobbies or even 90 person lobbies(that I can join) that I was simply never offered in the "other lobby" screen.
>>586065253Maybe I'm crazy, but did anyone else get The Ballad of Serenity vibes from Blue Sky Home?https://youtu.be/JPwkDF5AxQM
Holy shit, someone did it.https://youtu.be/5Vg-3nfKnsg
So why is popping the chute of a paratrooper perfectly fine but popping the chute of an ejecting pilot(who is still an armed enemy combatant and can legally conduct ground warfare once they land) a war crime?
>>586066159See>>586045597
>>586066159>no special lines on iti figured they'd say something
>>586066159Late and gay
>>586066542Pilots are much more expensive to trainThey're not carrying a full infantry kit in their cockpit, they'll only have some basic supplies when on the ground
>>586066546>>586066593>the one time I skip through the thread after workfugmy bad>>586066553It's a shame PA didn't think it was possible despite not making it invulnerable. Would've been great to have an "oh shit" moment from your wingmates. Would've been doubly cool for M15 to only spawn 1 Ladon, or maybe 3 as this one was another pair and without it they had to third wheel with Fuscus 1 and 2.
There should have been an additional mission between Selene and Song of Wings where you have to defend the peace negotiations from terrorist (Enso) drones and Ventus/Gemma help you if they're still alive, as a homage to ACES in AC5.
>>586066542Common courtesy, basically. Pilots are not only non-combatants once they've ejected, but pilots are fucking expensive to train.
>>586066770But there's no legal reason to make it so, no? You could give your fully armed paratroopers the cheapest plastic glider and have them immediately eject and the enemy would be unable to shoot them before they land.
>>586067057But they're not non-combatants! I think ejecting pilots should be legally forced to be unarmed while going on sortie so once they eject they actually are non combatants.Maybe give them a machete or something for basic forest survival but definitely not a firearm.
>>586066542One is a part of a deliberate move by one of the sides with the intent of waging war, the other isn't regardless of what they were doing before or after. If you want the edgy answer to sound smart or whatever, its because pilots are expensive and good for leverage if captured. So if you start shooting them not only you gain nothing from it but you will also piss off the other side to start doing it or worse.
>>586067806At the core>EnlistedExpendable>OfficersValuableNeither side wants to get in the habit of mass killing officers
>>586067806How would this work with a paradrop in practice? Like I'm a WW2 flak gun operator, there are a bunch of cargo planes dropping paratroopers all over the place.Say I hit one of the planes right as it's dropping the paratroopers and its pilot and copilot eject. How am I supposed to keep track of which small smudges I'm allowed to blast out of the sky?
>>586067642Downed pilots are armed for survival, not combat.
>>586067490>>586068025You're being too literal. Human relationships and diplomacy don't work on technicalities
>>586068149They are still soldiers and they're legally allowed to conduct combat operations. >>586068191So I'm assuming that if there's a large scale paradrop going on you're allowed to shoot anything with a chute, even if it happens to be an ejecting pilot from one of the cargo planes or an escort fighter. I guess that makes sense.
>>586067996Depends on the enlisted. Army grunts, sure, but air force enlisted are like maintainers and avionics specialists and shit, their training is also hella expensive and managing to keep them in instead of going private and earning fat stacks is no mean feat.
>>586068495Why doesn't the air force just pay them more money to stay? What the fuck else are they spending their budget on?
>>586068447That doesn't change facts, anon.
>Why don't pilots usually target parachuting pilotslike, chivalry or some shit probably
>>586066971The one in Faith Park is Fuscus 2, according to the radio chatter.
>>586068631I believe that the fact that they are A)SoldiersB)ArmedC)Allowed to conduct combat operationsdoes change the fact that they are indeed combatants.
>>586068849Unfortunately basically every government disagrees with the random retard on a Malaysian pottery forum.
>>586068609>Why doesn't the air force just pay them more money to stay?Besides there are more reasons to get out than the pay, being an aircraft maintainer is physically demanding and long work 12-14 hour days every day, fucked up backs and knees to a man were the norm when I was in>What the fuck else are they spending their budget on?Pic related either plane
>>586060764considering someone's already managed to port High-G and PSM into the AC0 port, probably
>>586068976Shooting ejected pilots after they've landed is not a war crime, right? You don't have to try to capture them and demand their surrender, that's just what you commonly do because pilots are valuable for prisoner exchanges. So if you're allowed to shoot them then how are they not combatants? Are they only non combatants while dropping and then immediately become combatants as soon as they land?
F-16s on Mars
>>586069121>Are they only non combatants while dropping and then immediately become combatants as soon as they land?You're being pedantic as fuck but this is probably the answer. In reality none of this really matters outside of fiction
>>586031093No.I will entertain the thought that 6 was better than Zero though.
>>586069296G...G for Germany...Also G for Gott strafe England...This I am enjoying.
>>586069296kinda funny how we're still flying the same jets as were in AC04 a quarter-century ago
>>586069302Could you give your pilots some kind of hoverboard so they never technically "land" and are therefore permanently protected as non combatants? Then just have them go around collecting intel(but not as an active act of espionage because that would be a hostile act, just passively through their helmet cam) while being completely immune to enemy fire?
>>586069296>>586069393https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XCYUEzrQdYyou buddies should give this album a listen, it's some funny shit it's a satirical psychodelic rock release presenting the german F-104 controversy
>>58606948722 can't be built while the 35 is a fucking ponzi scheme in terminal decline
>>586069490Shut the fuck up bro you're autistic and retarded
>>586069826>22 can't be builtelucidate
>start shooting parachutes>now the enemies shoot your parachutes backit creates more problems than it solvesit's that simple>>586070002they shelved the tooling and it can't feasibly be put back together without spending way more money than it's worth
>>586069490I think you should go back to wherever the fuck you belong
>>586070084>start shooting soldiers>now the enemies shoot your soldiers back>it creates more problems than it solvesWouldn't this logic just apply to all forms of warfare?>>586069859>>586070186Why are you guys being so rude?
>>586070339You're acting like a redditor
>>586066971It's alright anon, you can atone by completing one of Baxter's maths problems.
>>586070449Wouldn't know, never use that site. But I thought it was super woke or something which is why most people dislike it.Which I don't believe applies to my posts.
>>586070002no factories, tools, parts, or knowledgeable engineers leftfor the money it would cost to restart production you might as well just make a new plane from scratch
>>586069296the G is for general resource
>>586070681Most people dislike it because of the insufferable smarmy and pedantic way redditors act.Which applies to your posts to a Tget the fuck out nigger
>>586069121>You don't have to try to capture them and demand their surrenderBroadly speaking, you do. Because they’re non-combatants. Just like you can’t shoot retreating enemies or POWs or sailors that have abandoned ship. Obviously, if you demand their surrender and they respond with “Fuck you Belkan!” and start blasting, then they’re no longer a noncombatant.
>>585994568What a pain really need the squad to carry me.No hit isn't that bad thanks to the armor upgrade. Only problem was the land battleship at the lighthouse and the first Moon 11 encounter. Game loves to put you in those AC5 style moments where you wait for a script to play out, then surprise here's all your new targets and look the enemy railgun pre-locked you. Restart the mission.
>>586070712it's crazy how they shut production down after a mere 15 years
>>586071661blame the soviet union for dissolving
>>586071115>Just like you can’t shoot retreating enemies What the fuck are you talking about, you are absolutely allowed to shoot retreating enemies. You are not allowed to shoot surrendering enemies but that's clearly a different thing.
>>586071115Nah man, if an enemy pilot lands and then tries to run back to allied lines you are 100% allowed to shoot them. This would be illegal if they were actually non combatants.
Say one good thing about Online
>>586071074I feel like you have some sort of problem with hypotheticals. How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast today?
>>586072149I haven't played it.
>>586072235And that's a good thing!
>>586072064Nope. Per the 1977 amendment to the Geneva Conventions, you must give them the opportunity to surrender unless they are actively engaging in hostile acts.
>>586072149I like having a million missiles chasing me all game. I hope there are mods to remove the missile cap from campaign
>>586069826>the 35 is a fucking ponzi scheme in terminal declineIt's literally turning into this century's F-16, with how many they're building and how capable it is. What are you on about?>>586072149I get to fly with /aceg/ and that shit rocks.
>>586072149I got to preach about the Sotoan menace to the general public.
>>586072425If a pilot starts making his way back to allied lines then clearly he has already been given the opportunity so surrender and is now a valid target.They are essentially evading capture at that point and can be shot.
I cast: Delete plane.MGPs are incredible, now if only they were on slightly better handling planes
>>585958451Wouldn't it burn their backs? Or is this slop?
>>586072475>It's literally turning into this century's F-16, with how many they're building and how capable it is. What are you on about?They wasted billions of dollars on the thing to replace jets like the 16 and when that fell apart they're trying to sell them off in shady ways to allies. The 35 project was a Military Industrial scam
>>586063960Look at ACI's version of it.
>>586072149It has a lot of room for improvement.
>>586072894That’s not how it works.
>>586072149The Emergency Sorties are genuinely fun. If only I could play them more than once a week.
>>586072475>It's literally turning into this century's F-16, with how many they're building and how capable it isHoly cope.
>>586072997That's more like it, yeah
>>586072894Retard
>>586068763Aye, I only meant in the hypothetical reality where they accounted for the player splashing it early.
>its 2026 and people are still saying the F35 is a scam just how big of a rock do you live under
>>586072149The npc enemy units are unironically far more varied and fun to fight than SP.They have cool shit like the mecha howitzers, siege tanks, Aegis Ashore facilities, ADF-11s and YF-23s, EX-SAMs that shoot missiles that are actually really persistent in tracking you, etc
>>586072894>I know nothing about how laws of war or morality works, but let me tell you why it's justified to shoot people for running away in a circumstance where they'd always run away especially from the guy who might shoot them for running away
>>586073342Resisting capture is a hostile act, no? So as long as you've made it know that they are in fact in enemy territory and should surrender to your forces and they haven't complied they're a legal target.Plenty of pilots died trying to escape enemy territory and it was not treated as a war crime.
>>586073625Ask the countries who got the plane without a fucking radar :^)
>>586073625Not as if the F-35 has a stunning track record. It's operational history has consisted of Jews bombing children and America using it to lose against Iran.
I remember never flying this because it looked so dumb from behind with that exhaust
>>586072149Pretty solid soundtrack selection.
>>586028637>>586029424yepPA made a mistakethey do thatsome goobers will try to rationalize it and find an in-world explanation, like with the incorrect date on Tasha's dog tagsbut it's just a mistake
>>586073693> Resisting capture is a hostile act, no?No.Well, maybe technically speaking in an absolute manner. But in this context, it’s not. A hostile act would be if the pilot opened fire on a search party, or decided to try and wage a guerrilla war or something similar. Running and hiding is not a hostile act.
>>586073856I'd bet you're Brazilian.
>>586073693Resisting capture is the natural inclination of every soldier, and even civilians. Just because an enemy is "running away" does not give you the inherent right to shoot them, especially if the enemy is no longer a valid military target.The entire logic here is "if you do X, then enemy does X" and both sides benefit from their soldiers not being shot in the back constantly.
>>586073625relative to its price and history it is
if Ace Combat is around in the 2070s, the F-35 will be what the F-4 and MiG-21 are now
>>586074253A pilot lands in enemy territory. You inform them via megaphone that they are in enemy territory and should surrender immediately. They turn around and run. You shoot them.This is not a war crime, they were given a clear opportunity to surrender.Also how ridiculous would it be if every random patrol guard needed to ask a person sneaking around in a hostile uniform whether they were an infiltrator or an ejected pilot sneaking back to allied lines before being allowed to shoot them?>>586074469But you are absolutely allowed to massacre a retreating army unless they've surrendered. There is no international or humanitarian law that forbids attacking retreating combatants.
>>586073625It works as intended but it still costed america a ton more money than it should have
>>586075138We're not talking about a 'retreating army', we're talking about a downed pilot who would be lucky to have a gun and a map. Of course they're going to try to evade capture. Expecting them to just report to the nearest enemy garrison is Germoid logic.
>>586073625>It's 2026 and people are still saying the F-35 is not a scamEnjoy your plane that the Americans can shut off remotely whenever they feel like it.
>>586073664I really wish the ground units were as big as the planes themselves so you really get a sense of their scale. I'd love see the mecha howitzers actually moving around the map and that they're so big you can actually seem them firing in detail.
>>586075287If there was evidence this existed wouldnt this be plastered everywhere to tank F35 sales
>>586074469Also, I want to be clear. Just because something is a war crime doesn’t mean it’s going to get prosecuted as such. Countries tend to get away with a lot of things that are illegal. And generally speaking, it’s left to countries to police themselves, so unless it’s unsanctioned and particularly abhorrent, or it’s a situation like post-WW2 where you’re tearing down the system and want to make examples, a small scale crime like shooting a pilot under parachute is going to get swept under the rug.
>>586050619Yes Pixy can will shoot down named planes for you.
>>586075271Spying is also a hostile act. So if that ejected pilot reports back to base and says anything about their position and whatever enemy troops they saw they're a completely valid target.And I don't see how telling the pilot they're in enemy territory and MUST surrender at their earliest convenience does not count as being given a clear opportunity to surrender as required by Article 42 of International Humanitarian Law.
>>586075624Now you're being even more retarded. You're basically suggesting executing enemy recon units "for espionage".The reason why spies are shot is because they frequently do not wear uniforms and have the potential to conduct assassinations. You again do not understand the laws of war AT ALL.
>>586075138>This is not a war crimeIf they don’t try and shoot you first, it is.> ask a person sneaking around in a hostile uniformFirst off, if they’re a hostile infiltrator, they probably aren’t going to be wearing a hostile uniform. Kind of defeats the purpose of infiltrating.Secondly, a pilot’s kit is going to be noticeably different than an infantryman’s.
imagine going back in time and showing the wright brothers an f-35
>>586076097>"It cost HOW MUCH?"
>>585969393it's not the seat, it's the entire toilet, and you'd have to be a real ass to lose a 2bn dollar airplane to a leak because you wanted to save 20k. (incidentally, the toilet on a commercial airliner runs to about the same amount. more if you include the entire system including piping and storage and so on.)of course, then you have to answer for why you're building a $2bn bomber, but that mostly comes down to unit costs. same as way the F-2 costs like $120m even though F-16s are dirt cheap: a small production run of bespoke models is very expensive
>>586075806Execution is different from killing in combat.You are allowed to snipe, shell, or otherwise maim and kill enemy recon units, there is no law against it. If you take them prisoner they are to be treated humanely as prisoners of war, obviously. But if they're engaged in active recon, not surrendering, and you shoot them to stop that recon, you've done nothing wrong.>>586075869You are being silly. If you hold an enemy pilot at gunpoint and demand their surrender and they turn around and run you are obviously allowed to shoot them. Same for any other troops. >First off, if they’re a hostile infiltrator, they probably aren’t going to be wearing a hostile uniformNot a spy, but like special forces or something. They wear a uniform just like any other soldier because that's what they are. And you really think your average guard has the time to analyse an enemy soldier's kit before making the split second decision to shoot them?
>>586076281>Spying is also a hostile actYour words, not mine. Retard.
>>586067996Quite right. It is never a question of officers!
>>586076365Recon is a hostile act too. Not like the distinction matters if both are performed by a uniformed member of the armed forces, since both would be afforded the same status(not illegal, but a valid hostile target).
>>586072234>keep saying stupid pedantic shit>surprised when people call you retarded
>>586076650Downed pilots aren't recon units, they're incapacitated enemy combatants.Next you'll start saying "we gotta shoot the wounded, they COULD reach for a gun and who knows what they might report back to their commanders".
>>586076779Nah man. You don’t get it. That fourteen year old kid is looking vaguely in the direction of our base. He could call the enemy on a cellphone. That makes him a combatant, so we can shoot him.
>>586069024The VTOL shit with the F-35 was the biggest waste of money.
>>586076779They're not necessarily incapacitated. And if they're performing active recon they can be treated just like any other recon unit.And yes, you are allowed to shoot a wounded radio operator who's calling for an airstrike on your position. Because that is an active hostile act.>>586076737Law is a matter of extreme pedantry by its very nature.
Itg: americans coping about why they lost every single war after ww2
Launch!!!!!!>>586077225>>586077225>>586077225>>586077225
>thirdie throwing a whole ass fishing pole in the water lollmao even
>>586004652is this duckstation or some vibe recomp?
