mo-garita edition>Latest patch:https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial CompetitiveNewshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>585902035
i like to lane with rem when i play with graves :D
>pick silver>win
Why does a lifesteal tank have a skill like burrow?
still thinking about how that graves fly tweet was so funny that people unironically think it's real
I usually lean into her gun, but I just played full support, healslut Harrow and had fun. The game was 50 minutes long tho holy shit
what are these mystery nigga rooms? ive never heard anyone say anything about these
https://cdn.deadlock.wiki/Patron_male_ally_necro_start_04.mp3
>play abrams>face Yamato in lane>go 0/4What do I do against her
>>585942115Juke rooms or for veil walker enjoyers
>>585941987>mo>lifesteal tank
>Venator has a low winrate>this means he's bad and completely unplayable>Danny, Solomon, Violet, and Harrow have mediocre 50% winrates>uhhhhhh actually they're super broken and need to be raped right now
>>585941847i mean as graves* oops
>>585925702same anon asking again since new thread but link? all I can find is the apron + catgirl as separate files so assuming it's custom
>>585942208>uhhhhhh actually they're super broken and need to be raped right nowI say this because they're minorities
>>585942150wow
>get rusnig on team>loseKILL ALL FUCKING RUSNIG SCUM
>>585942235if you run both of those separate mods, it'll probably work like in the pic. You can definitely combine at least some mods so it might just be as simple as that.
Why does one side of the map get to do sinners completely hidden while the other announces themselves to the whole map?>inb4 you get more sinners in exchange for 2 camps, it's a wash
>>585942208Venator has been around long enough now that his poor performance is not a fluke. People are still practicing and building the new heroes.
>>585942480One drains your stamina, so if people suspect you do them you could be screwed.
>>585942480Because asymmetry is cool and the side with the stupid ding dong tower literally has a higher winrate anyway across all ranks
radiant regen on billy? thoughts? thoughts?
>>585942680breathe when i put it in you bro
I have to grind Avatar combos in between games.
I don't understand how this isn't the worst item in the gameEven if you get it at 8 minutes, you will still never break even. And the buffs it gives are weaker than just buying a real 3.2k item
>>585942679>and the side with the stupid ding dong tower literally has a higher winrate anyway across all ranksThe Ding Dong makes it harder to steal. The Hidden King has more opportunity to steal from the lean pool for free but the Arch mother has to go into enemy territory AND ring the dinner bell.
>>585942626>drains 1 stamina bar per.... 30 secondslmao
Did some big LoL streamer start playing this game? every game I had today had some dude either on my team or the enemy team chimp out and dc over some minor bullshit
>>585942680Probably comes out too late to be a huge deal, you wouldn't get it before Rapid Recharge and maybe Greater Expansion, and Crushing Fist comes before those. His cooldowns aren't so short you can consistently make use of the 6s heal. Way better to just be a big dumb tank with Colossus and actual items
>>585942957who put a dildo on infernus' head>>585942969Okay, and? At worst it's a 51-49 winrate and that was before they added a triple t3 camp to the theatre on AM side>>585943021>... and stops any and all stamina regen
>>585942909If you buy monster rounds on your build the price becomes a lot easier to stomach through upgrading, and the buffs are a nice edge in early/mid game
>>585942845Oh cool so it's good to use on Haze and maybe a Victor with ult that's about to die.Anything more?
>>585943073Rivals streamers are swapping over, like any of the big ones.
>>585943073I'm getting quite a few of videos like these
tips for Infernus?
>>585942909They need to replace ability range with fire rate.
purple fog pit would be more balanced if the sinners and neutrals swapped places, right now you can just immediately wall jump out the pit because the sinners and boxes are hugging the walls.if the sinners were in the middle instead of the neutral creeps then you had to walk slowly to the walls while being shot at
It's over...
>>585942957Could it be?
>>585943073probably, random tourist wash-ups are always coming and going
what is yamato alt fire for?
>>585943465No, I never tip.
>>585943619use her alt fire by default, only use the primary when you're up close
>>585943073streamerfags are playing Deadlock again. So like clockwork their lobotomite followers are playing it as well.
>>5859421501. How did the Hidden King know about Graves' dogfucking hobby where she goes into Bronx or Harlem back alleys on the weekends and offers herself to stray mutts for raw knotty creampies?2. How is she supposed to use that to summon the Hidden King?
>>585943538Our hero
>>585943465Don't feed in laneDon't queue and get 2 bad teammates who feed He kinda just farms jungle and lanes quickly so you'll hit a 25m power spike before the enemies generally>>585943508Yeah Trophy Collector already has ability range, fire rate would atleast be shit some bad farming characters like Billy gets
How many calibration games or whatever is there for deadlock ranked? I just unlocked ranked but I see the season ends like next week, I just want to see what rank I'd getDo I get my rank on the first game or how many do I need?
This sub-community of people who are invested in Deadlock but hate the actual gameplay and somehow convinced themselves it will magically become some casualfest mode that overtakes the actual game eventually is fucking hilarious, they just can't accept that the game isn't for them.
>>585944131>release pve modenow what
Hotpoo ruined the game
>trying a new character in standard>get raped in lane>teammate pulls up my statlocker and bullies me because I'm on a 4 loss streakthe people that play this game are unwell
>>585944360you're lucky it wasn't the penis inspection checker
>>585944131I think most people here are from TF2 and are really hoping the game becomes more like TF2.>>585944206The pve mode is going to be a roguelite/like or autochess.
>>585943823Graves is only meant for correction by men twice her age
>>585944360>made-up scenario about a site that tracks like 1/3rd of the games you play (unless you install their AIslop app which surely you're smart enough to not have done, right?)
>>585943823Graves got knotted by Silver in the sweltering hot summer of 1932
>>585944430I wish it were destiny style raids, but I think it's going to be wave defense
are we gonna get a steam vent item that gives you MORE passive healing while in the vent, could be decent (for jungling)
>>58594411310 placements
>>585944569i got curious about this one day and cross referenced my ingame match history with my statlocker matches and asked two friends to help me do the same and for all 3 of us the number of tracked matches was closer to 85-95%
>>585942434They both overwrite artist.vmdl_c so likely not. Shame
>>585943465Raident regeneration, enduring speed, escalating exposure, mystic slow and surge of power.
Balance patch?
Getting 15 standard wins on Rem so I can take him into ranked is an arduous task
I'm pre-muting wraith players from now on
>>585944819Yoshi said next few days, so probably next Monday or Tuesday the latest
>>585944761why is it tracking my losses more then? I have a 55% WR and statlocker shows 42%????
>>585944830they should just turn that shit off if you're a high enough rank
>>585943221Only if Haze has maxed 2 technically, but idk. If the nurse has aim then it's good regardless since she can just outheal the damage.
Silver? thats like a vampire being named onion
>>585944934if you have a low amount of total games it wouldn't take that much missing data to make this difference and i don't know what else to tell you
>>585942909The only real value of this item is for pocket to use it to steal enemy camps at no risk
>>585945019You would summon five million elo terrorists nuking games by picking Sinclair for the first time in your ranked game
>>585945174If you think 15 wins is enough to make Sinclair players not low value shitters 90% of the time I have a shit mid call I'd like to sell you on
>>585942063isn't harrow's gun kind of buns for actual fighting or is there some esoteric technology that I'm not clued in on?
>>585944830I think it's good, but support players are at the mercy of their teammates. I feel bad for you. t. zero supports in ranked
>>585945671You can permanently have blood tribute and max stack berserker on
Which characters do you guys have unlocked for ranked?
>>585945671fully stacked leeches make it usable
>retards actually kneecap themselves by buying support shit no one asked for instead of maxxing pillows or even going gun
I'm a paigechad now
>>585945671Have you seen the multipliers in her kit nigga?
Sex with Venator
I don't know what to do after taking walkers.
>>585945839uhhh holliday ivy silver apollo paige graves vyper paradox violet
>>585945839still the same except I have bop and Ivy now. Why does Celeste look twelve in this art?
rushing Cheat Death on harrow and then just turning around and T5 ulting the entire enemy team when they commit on you is so fucking broken lol, wins games by its own during rift and midboss fights
>Nurse Harrow om enemy team gets Repeater>instant winRemoves this fucking item from the game already
>>585945875Aren't pillows kind of shit
>>5859458390
>>585945839
>>585946128I do similar things with her 2I'm in a situation where I know I'll die, but I pop that for about 5 seconds of extra life and just start burger boxingI've gotten away with quite a few kills that way
somebody save me from these shit queues
>>585946148yeah you want to build for helpers + counter buy their best player
>>585946148It's a massive pubstomp ability that will put on the top of damage dealt, especially with rem's soul advantage.
Lash sex!
sex with gargoyles
>>585946258>15 minute queue>load into a complete shitstomp (you're the one getting stomped)
>>585946283You're making yourself extremely situational and unable to deal damage in a game about dealing damage, aka useless.
>>585942909It's best on heroes who can use the stats but also benefit a lot from getting faster AP upgrades and aren't able to afford to just rush T3 in an abilityVen gets a powerspike from T3 ult but rushing it means your forego T2 shotgun which really griefs your laning. Same with Pocket and max cloak, max cloak is a huge powerspike but delaying T2 briefcase gimps your combo damage in lane
Venator is celibate and a virgin since hes a memner of the clergy please stop lewding him
>>585946494is he circumcised?
>just melee the rat king grenade bro>it jumps away
>>585946258>deadlock>200k people playing>queue for a match>10 min queue to find another 11 players?>hunt showdown>20k people playing on a good day>queue for a match>instant pop to find another 11 players (same match size of 12)How is Deadlocks matchmaker SO SHIT they can't even pretend it's to make balanced teams because they never are
>>585946258>>585946412AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>585941741hello friends about to try deadlock for the first time, expecting it to be confusing and gay and hard. im playing with my duo gf, we are both high rank in valorant and cs:go and i would call us good shootershoping for recommendations on how to approach this game: from my understanding you are suppose to browse for builds online before playing a character? but im not gonna know which build to import, unless i can just do the "most popular" and be good. i dont plan to "counter build" just yet because i dont know what any of the items are, ideally i would like for advice on how to essentially get an ak-47/vandal and start shooting people. as long as i have a gun that does damage i think ill be having fun, so any character recommendations to fulfill that would be idealbesides that, what's the best way to approach general gameplay? clear a wave -> go jungle if its up -> clear boxes if theyre up -> fight opposite heroes? is that the general priority list? how often do boxes/camps reset? jungling and clearing boxes doesn't excite me much, its just repetitive but i understand economy is everything in mobas, being way more rich than everyone is how you stomp and get overpoweredbesides that, what's the "meta"? is it just 2v2v2 in each lane, or is someone expected to jungle/roam while mid plays solo? or is everyone kinda expected to roam towards nearby skirmishes and fights all the time? i predict our awareness will be terrible, we probably wont rotate to fights and will probably over-extend and get collapsed on while we're noobs and still learningbesides that, what does laning typically look like? you have to melee creeps so you can guarantee the money/exp? this game seems SUPER focused on melee and parrying melees.. which i dont love.. i just wanna shoot and use abilities. is this just something ill have to get over if i wanna truly get good? what bind do you guys do for parry, and what bind for melee?
>>585946652ai cooking up the most imbalanced onesided stomp
>>585945839None because I HATE ranked and will NEVER play it
>6stack on one team>one duo and four solos on the otherwaited ten minutes for this dogshit
goodbye harrow it was nice knowing you
>>585943619to proc mystic & resto shot easily
>>585946771just play the game and realize it's a lot more retard-friendly than you think
>>585947008She only has a 51.6% winrateJust shoot her
>>585947008/dlg/retards are in for a rude awakening when neither Violet or Harrow have their kneecaps broken.
>>585947008it's gotta be friday, I can't stand it anymore
>found a guy that plays Deadlock with a nub hand>exception being a single pinky knuckle>still plays his heart out with his flipperLove this community fellas
>>585947008I'm calling it now, Harrow will require a rework. She doesn't put out crazy numbers healing wise, you can easily outheal her on other supports, her damage is non existent outside of her ult, her win-rate is normal and yet people can't stop crying. Almost killing someone only for them to end up full HP feels bad for sure but that's like the only thing this hero does
>>585946605Of course
>>585947415strongest graves player
>>585947123All I'm expecting for those two are>VioletMake the LOS more strict for her 3Some slight damage hits here and there for her 1 and 2>HarrowSlight healing hit on her 3Ult takes slightly longer to fearUlt is no longer a half circle and is more conical in shapeNo more damage invul at tier 3, maybe a cheat death like effect instead
now that danny's in the game they should make vinny's 2 less janky to use
>>585947520What other support can 0-100 you in like 2 seconds?Rem does nowhere near that much, Dynamo and Ivy are completely lol tier
>>585947520Gun Harrow is the secret stomp build
If you want violet and harrow nerfed you must concede that winrate isn't the end all be metric for a character's power level and characters like shiv/silver/venator shouldn't be buffed and should infact be nerfed again
I swear alot of these players have to be bots like in tf2
>>585947593I don't think they're making the LoS more strict. It'd genuinely feel too awful to use for the Violet if just dipping behind cover broke it.What I hope they do is make it something different than a stun, that way it doesn't feel bad for the LoS to be so hard to break. Make it damage amp or something.
>>585947520why rework her when you have a thousand pick heroes in this game whose only purpose is to kill her?
I’ve lost so many games in a row of standard now that i legit can’t get into a game, i sat for 25 minutes and could not find a match
>>585947767>if you think this high winrate hero deserves to be nerfed then all of these lower winrate heroes deserve it toowha...
>>585947692I'm talking about overall healing. Harrow feels like she heals more because of how she delivers her heals but I commonly see Dynamos or Paiges with way more healing than her
>>585947845This nigga got demoted to gravel ranks
>>585947939Violet is barely above 50% tho. How is that "high"?
>>585947939>winrate hero deserves to be nerfed50% winrate btw. Mathmatically perfectly balanced
>>585947826If they don't want to tighten the LOS requirements, changing it from a stun would also be fineMaybe they could have it root instead
>>585947839because her 3 will inevitably get gutted and she will become a 40% wr hero who only exists to feed the enemy kills
>>585947845stop playing support in standardfor the love of god just pick carries
Here's that high winrate hero I was telling you about
Just discovered why this patch sucked>First hero voteDoorman>Second hero voteApollo>This hero voteNot a single character was a proper twinkThey should've made Solomon a young gay nigga
>>585946771You're probably thinking that the game is way harder to play than it actually is. Yes it is rather complex and deep as an ocean, but it gives you plenty of room to familiarize yourself with its gameplay mechanics one at a time.Just pick a popular build and buy whatever it tells you, don't bother thinking about your item choices before you even know what the items do, go to your assigned lane and shoot creeps and the enemies, then just push lanes and join whatever fights you can. Don't worry too much about boxes and camps until you feel comfortable laning and moving around the map, just take whatever is close to you. Over time you'll learn when to do what and why, but that takes time. One thing that I can tell you it will be helpful is to make a habit of taking a quick look at the map regularly, just take a quick glance at it when you're reloading or nothing is going on on your screen, even if you don't know what you're looking at, when you do know you'll be glad you developed that habit.Get ready to lose a lot at first, but that's okay as long as you're learning from those loses, basically the same mentality you need to have when learning a fighting game.
>>585947826>It'd genuinely feel too awful to use for the Violet if just dipping behind cover broke it.thats how LoS abilities shoudl work though. either position better or move better. dont get retarded free abilities around walls
>>585947826>40+ heroes have to feel awful getting hit by out of LoS bullshit just so the widdle violet doesnt feel awful :(how is that my fucking problem, have it behave in a human way I dont give a fuck what violet players think about it
When are they updating Sinclair? His model is ass and he runs like he shit himself
>>585948272>>585948284Then surely you have this same problem with Billy, right?
>>585948015>>585948024>52 = 50Also 50% is higher than average retardbro, the new busted high pickrate heroes are pushing the median way up.
>>585948240she's still just not fun to play against, however.
>another aimbotter Wraithwcyd
>>585948358yes all LoS bullshit should be actual LoS and not pretend LoSgood whataboutism and good talk
>>585948240High pick rates are nuking the WR
IM TRYING TO LEARN THE TUNNLESI CANT LEARN THE TUNNELS
>>585948394who do you play and I'll tell you if they are fun to play against
>>585948363>52%... and if you instead sort by top 10%, which is a much more useful metric, youll find its 50% bang on
>>585947826>every single hero has strict LoS checks, except it feels AWFUL! in the only hero I abuse
>>585948358billys ult breaks almost instantly, as it should. in fact its the only LoS ability in the game that does. fuck geist drain and fuck violet stun
>>585945839GravesThat’s it. Graves one trick. My closest other heroes are Victor and Haze around 10 wins.
>>585948249trvthke. solomon is cool though, danny is the one who shouldve been scrapped for the twink factor
Why does violet have a mokrill ult as a basic ability?
>>585948358You had to go and mention the ONLY LoS ability that works as it should
Can I stop getting south "american" "people" on my team in NA? These people unironically lack the frontal lobe capacity to learn that running at the enemy for the 11th time won't magically change the outcome.
>>585948472Haze has the same pick rate and a 55%+ winrate, retard.>>585948549>billys ult breaks almost instantly(You)>>585948513where are these "strict" checks? It's all the same mechanic underneathhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoQebnQBRCA
>if I try to fudge numbers enough based off a shitty vibecoded site with massive selection bias then surely they won't nerf my OP main
How new to MOBAs are these people if they don't understand the concept of mechanically intensive heroes needing a lower winrate % than 50% to be balanced, and low mechanically intensive heroes can be fine even at above 50%
>>585943527surely nightshift will fix that
>>585947008I was assuming they wouldn’t drop one until the ranked season ends.
Nightshift is about to be crazy today
>>585948472Higher pick rate means higher sample size which means more accurate data. That's how statistics work. This is also violet data from high rank, so the mythical "low skilled player" is barely a factor in that number. If you compare that to a character like Rat King and Wraith, who have similar pick rates but much better winrates, it paints the picture of Violet being a low impact character
>>585948726>here are the stats>"ok here are some other stats">v-vibecodedkwaboat
>>585948812Spirit victor is going to get picked and dominate, expect upcoming victor nerfs
Full spirit or hybrid Shiv?
Why do moba newbabs look at spreadsheets only and conclude ”SEE NEW HERO PERFECTLY BALANCED”?Ton of heroes, Io, Meepo, Techies, Treant, etc have been nerfed to shit several times because they might be fine winrate wise they’re just complete cancer to versus
Is sinclair/mina/seven a good roster for rankedI don't wanna get assraped in my placement matches
>>585948843Your "other stats" still say 52% because the site is a buggy piece of shit and the graphs don't actually reflect whatever filter you choose.
>>585948592Can you play ranked as a one trick?
>>585947520Her 3 and 4 are the main problems. Her 3 can probably be fixed with some number tweaks but her 4 needs more substantial changes. Remove the invulnerability, replace it with damage resistance and make it so each enemy can only be feared once per cast. There's no reason for her to have that much CC while also being completely untouchable for the entire duration of her ult. I'd start with those changes before touching anything else, her 1 is fine as is and her 2 is a high risk high reward ability that often does more harm than good
my main in deadlock? gravesmy favorite anime? made in abyss
>>585948671https://youtu.be/UoQebnQBRCA?si=_Etc9W_xD0u6jrcI&t=121Does it now?
>>585948889The answer is to identify the difference between balance and design.You identified a design problem, the answer is a redesign, not a nerf.
>>585948889better metric than "AIIIIIIIIE I JUST LOST A GAME AND IT MADE ME FEEL BAD SENOR YOSHI"techies was put up with for years until he got reworked
>>585948261yeah i expect to lose a lot, also i plan to communicate to my team on voice chat that im a noob and ill be asking them questions, dont care if they are toxic. any tips for who to try out first? i like the look of venator, wraith has cool abilities but the designs are so fucking trash. who wants to play a black, or a black bald like calico? they take a fun ability like "play as a cat" and put it on the black bald character.. so gay.whats your favorite character and what do you like about them?
>>585948697>(you)>seething spic playing on 100+ ping every gameyes, billy ult is the only LoS ability in the game that was actually changed for LoS. you'd know this if you played the game
>>585948889This is actually the culmination of a weeks long storyline where people would look at characters like Shiv or Silver having negative winrates and go "they need a buff" when they're a retarded fundamentally unhealthy character that should never have a positive winrate everThese same people are now asking for new characters to be nerfed and coping about how THEIR winrate doesn't matter but the winrate of their pet character means they need a buff
>>585947520I agree her entire identity is healing her ult is obviously going to get guttered thats a given but when they nerf that and they nerf her healing she'll be warden tier utterly useless
im new to deadlock, how do you choose who to play in this game? do you see the enemy comp and try to counterpick? do you just pick your favorite character regardless? is it bad too have too many characters that are one type of damage? or does having no tanks mean your comp is bad etc?
>>585949098Did you even watch the video I linked? It goes over Billy ult, timestamped here >>585949013>y-youre just a spic o algoBattlecry of a tranny who lost. I play on 20 ping, or lower if I don't block Stockholm. Kill yourself.
I LOVE PENIS
>>585949037Techies was perfectly fine until the retarded minefield sign agh's upgrade that made mines uncounterable, you basically always had to sacrifice someone to get barracks.
>>585949307easy shiv player...easy
>people are genuinely arguing with the "violet fan"
>full team is spirit niggers>not a single M1gger>nobody swapsbwehdraft when
>>585949140All I've seen is someone trying to equate a high winrate hero with other lower winrate heroes, which is simply idiotic.
>>585949207>when they nerf that and they nerf her healing she'll be warden tier utterly uselessIn sickness and in health..
>>585949250>instantly thinks of trannies the second someone questions his retarded postsrent free in your head nigger, and no im not watching your retarded video because i know how the game works
Violetnog in full meltdown mode that his character is about to be deleted lol
Silver will be S+++ tier after the new balance patches
>>585949307apollo victor abrams lash venator mirage drifter billy rat king rem kelvin seven...
Of the new herosBaba and Harrow are pefectly fine mechanically and just need numbers tweaksRat King is legit just balanced as isDanny and Violet just need complete overhauls to not ruin the entire game with how their abilities warp what you can doSolomom could genuinely do with a rework and a buff given how clunky and difficult his kit is to make work
>>585949501>non-argumentYou evidently don't, if you still believe Violet's LoS acts any differently to others.
15m queue in standard soloepic
>>585949619Rat King needs to be able to be either CC'd out of his ult or have his ult be destructable scrap grenade should get a slight damage buff but thats it
>>585949619Baba doesn't have a kit, she has 5 CC abilities and a broken AoE shield If it weren't for characters like Warden and Mirage she'd be my number 1 candidate for a rework
damn, violetranny really have an all time low moment this thread
>>585949140>Silver having negative winrates and go "they need a buff" when they're a retarded fundamentally unhealthy characterPutting silver near shiv is legit insane wtfNothing in her kit even compares to the abomination that is shivI remember when they tried to nerf shiv to 2stam and it was instantly reverted because shiv one tricks pissed their pants.
Why is violets one a sinclair bolt but 20 times easier to aim?
>>585949619nerf spirit danny, buff gun danny, ez pz>solomon rework>clunky and difficulthe's easy
>>585949847Why does her 3>do damage a lot of damage>stun>and give her a permanent stack that she cant losebecause new heroes have to have everything for free thats why
>retards ITT don't know dashing doesn't update your LoS hitbox until over halfway through the dashSure is Brick hours in here.
>man I really don't know why the fuck we are losing every fight>game ends>both you carries have 10k damage in a 35 minutes gameHappens more than I'd like...
another harrow another griefer on my teami win lane 1v2 but this fucker just goes afk sidelaning all game and split pushes while we lose mid boss, walkers, shrine and finally throneWHY DOES GRIEFING REPORTS NOT WORKWHY IS IT ONLY COMM BANS
>>585950051>thronego back
>>585950051>sidelane as harrowhuh?
>>585949619>Rat King is legit just balanced as is>higher pickrate AND winrate than Violet AND Nurse AND Danny, only beat by Baba.HAHAHAHA. Disingenuous ratfuckers.
>i'm on harrow>lane phase is over>sweet now i can go roam and help my team>stuck on lane janny duty so i can never heal anyonegreat
>>585950016oh no no no this guy thought we wouldn't notice that he rendered the smoke with the background because he's on cycles!!! lmaooo dooood
'eaded tu bloo
>>585949096If you want easy shooty heroes I'd recommend haze, vindicta, infernus, wraith, warden (he's easy but he sucks in this patch) and seven kinda>venatorHis kit sucks outside of his ult, which is really good only if you can hit the three shots consistently, he is also slow as fuck with no get out of jail cards so every mistake can be punished harshly, I wouldn't say he's beginner friendly at all but if your aim is good you might make him work
>radiant regen getting nerfedbe honest, bros... is it yamatover?
>>585937839silver
>our lane is a permanent 3v2>ping for help multiple times and get completely ignored>say "okay im running it down gg">team is surprised when i start running it down>one of them even gets comm banned mid match for sperging at me
>play Paige>bully the enemy laners so hard they leaveI just wanted to have a chill time playing a support slut I'm sorry :(
PULL BACK
>obvious maphacker and aimer h*ze nigger>losesI am so glad.
Careful Paige!
>>585950569>begging for rotations instead of just playing safe or boxrunning and telling your team to push the shit out of the now-solo lane
>>585950479Maybe but perhaps they'll buff her spirit build so its not comically badI'd give up the grapple charges if it meant she had real spirit damage
Can't wait to laugh at all the delusional retards who think any new hero is getting substantial nerfs in the upcoming patch. The only one who has an oppressive winrate is Baba and she's specifically a spirit counterpick and only played that way (in above shit elo).
paige vs 6 rottweilers
>>585950885
>>585950740Pull. Back.>rescue beams you
>tomorrow I'll start learning movement tech, routes and heal bats>tomorrow I'll start learning movement tech, routes and heal bats>tomorrow I'll start learning movement tech, routes and heal bats>tomorrow I'll start learning movement tech, routes and heal bats
>>585950804>now-solo lanecompletely uncontested lane actually, vindicta and billy lost blue guardian at 6 minutes and proceeded to sit in the jungle for the next 5+ minutes
>>585944569>made-up scenarioI imagine you never played valorant or cs? People do this very very often
>>585950885we're all saying this
>>585950847Baba will get nerfs but it will be the most cosmetic shit ever since her character is shiv 3.0 (Celeste was shiv 2.0)Brave of the design team to put 3 shivs in the games, guess they couldn't help themselves after a single 6 hero batch
>>585950847>winrate determines changesWe've been over this a hundred million times. They only make changes based on fee fees. Numerous times high winrate heroes have been buffed or unchanged and low winrates dumpstered.Shiv is a prime example.
>>585950984The only heal bats that matter are the laning ones
Buff mokrill again
>>585946125>Why does Celeste look twelve in this art?fucking IMAGINE
>>585951091>t-theyll be n-nerfed, y-youll seeScreencapping this
which heroes are cut and which aren't?
How old is Graves ?
>sweet I'm alone in this lane so I'll keep it pressured while my teammates make plays elsewhere>other lanes are completely ignored and pushed in, dudes taking a minute to kill a camp while creeps take half of a walker next to them
WHO WILL WE SEE IN THE NEXT HERO BATCH?
>>585950846>I'd give up the grapple charges if it meant she had real spirit damageYeah, same. Flying Slash+gun builds are fine and are clearly doing well competitively, but they're a lot less fun than just going all-in on Power Slash.
>>585950479>nerfedshould be straight removed and lets hope it is in the shop rework
>>585950996Made up scenario because of the second half of you sentence you fuckwitThose other games have proper API, deadlock does not. No one is checking some shitty vibecoded site that doesn't even have all of your matches
>>585949612>doorman>gunmanReject the false dichotomy.
>>585947520every game i see people calling Harrow braindead or brokenand every game not a single person buys any item to counter herDeadlock players will literally bend over backwards and reverse crabwalk across a field of shattered glass and bathe in Tabasco sauce to avoid doing anything that isn't L>R monkey see monkey do>>585950612Paige + High Velocity Rounds is annoying af i hate that shither bullets are already beams with a hugely generous hit radius
>>585951171Ok
>>585951292It won't be removed, it'll kill too many heroes.
rework shiv rework graves rework warden rework baba remove violet from the game
>>585951271Hidden King for my wish I want you to break it down
PULL. OUT.
but I'm ON
>>585950847>Baba is fine because she is a spirit counterpickIts not a counterpick because spirit is found in 100% of matches.
>>585951340the only hero it will kill is baba. every other character using it will just drop down to strong instead of overpowered
>>585951271lenny, mildred, hank, maggie, ms. shelly, another token black character
>>585951209Apollo is 18Apollo and Graves are in the same school yearThere's no reason to assume she isn't the same age as he>>585950184see >>585948742A hero with no skill impression (fire and forget 1-2-4) being above 50% is not badA hero that is hard to play being above 50% would be bad, because it means even the difficulty of play isn't keeping the WR down
>nightshift made 20k in profit from viewersholy pay piggies
>>585951131This but unironically
>>585951373Negative!
my winrate was below 50% but i'm on a roll right now
>finally get home>network downFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNEVERMIND i went to go poop and came back and it was fine
>>585950479>rad regen gets nerfed>spirit lifesteal gets buffed
>>585951547And which of these new heroes are hard, lol? Are you retarded?
A spirit "counter pick" that throtles the entire enemy teams spirit damage because you pressed 1 shouldn't be in the game. Even if the game had draft in rank at least 4 out of 6 of your team simply stop doing damage because Baba exists. Baba could be doing exactly 1 damage every fight and you still wouldn't be able to justify this being in the game
>doing a sinner>haze suddenly leaps out of stealth and parries my melee>100-0s me before I can recoverI can't even be mad but is there a counterplay to this
>>585951271Barcade owner, The Plumber, Mrs. Shelly, A character with a stoma bag, Solomon's niece who is a super genius stock trader + self-made financial mogul who got her phd at 12
>>585951572>nightshiftwtf is this? heard about it on zerggy's stream, but only in the context of him preparing for it
>NA is so bad that they have SA teams fighting in NAHow are these niggers so washed, if the SA team playing from their favela wins I will fucking die from my sides exploding.
>>585951694learn a gun hero cuh
Extra Regen upgrade path that actually improves HP Regen>Fortitu-that's not what i said
I love how baba's aoe range is bigger than the heavy melee sound being drowned out by all her other earrape so the only possible mitigation against baba can't even be made clear.
>>585951697Realistically? Nothing
Cultist's sacrifice is worse than trophy collector in every way
>>585951694They could add another hero that just shuts off your weapon for the entire match as "Gun Counterpick" and retards will defend it.
>>585951853REAL BRICK HOURS
>>585951878you mean mo krill blyat
Mokrills burrow should give him a shield
>>585951271Raven
>>585951946why is he curvier than geist
>>585951946>Venators husband still isn't in the game
>17 minute queue>another stompplease let losses count towards unlocking ranked yoshi i beg of youi'll even take 20% of a win please
danny is so fucking brokenthere's literally nothjing you can do against him
>>585951946zamn this nigga can SHIT
>>585952121>tales from bricklow
>>585952121Fight indoors and don't step in his strix and he does literally nothing
>>585951680Irrelevant to my post, I didn't call any of the new heroes hard, you're having a made-up argument with yourself in your head>inb4 links to some other post that isn't mine
Is it time for the daily meltdown about Violet?
>>585951946Russians look like THAT?
>>585951946S shaped body
>>585951946why is he cheeked up
>>585952121LIFTING
>>585951271Matinee formerly Trapper
i sincerely believe all rat king and victor players should be medically castrated so that they will never infect anyone with their sperm
>>585951946>Tsarina Yekaterina I'm trying to sneak past the walker but the sound of my ass checks clapping keeps alerting the enemy Abrams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTEoGK1omugthis is rat kings theme song
>>585952330nah, brood webs don't act that way
>>585952213Rat King has a higher winrate and pickrate than every other new hero. How is that not related to your post, ratfucker? Yet that post claims the other heroes must be nerfed/changed, but NOT Rat King. >>585952229Has been for the last hour.
>>585951943The best sustain of any tank, the highest health pool of any tank, the best resistances of any tank with 100% uptime isn't enough?
>>585951946built for blyatbreakingthat russkie's sweeter than a sweetplum
>>585951946
>>585952459Surely someone has the Infernus version of this saved?
>>585952445No
>>585952121you're right but the danny downplayers are a braindead majority. if you play the wrong character there is literally nothing you can do to him aside from being a knockdown bot.
>>585952434>related to your postsee the greentext in my postAll I told you is that it's okay for no brain/no skill impression heroes to have more than 50% winrateThis has no relation to any other hero and that is an argument in your head>ratfuckerStrawmanDon't reply again, you clearly can't argue yourself out of a paperbag/don't have the reading comprehension required to parse basic posts on 4chan
>>585951946BLYAAAAAAAT
how do you get upset at Danny he does no damage, a fully charged shot at level 30 does as much as a single Paige shot at level 2
>>585952397>not hava nagilait's a nice song regardess anon, didn't know I was in an YGYL thread lol thanks for sharing
>shirtless mirage mod: INSTALLEDOh yeah, it's gaming time
>>585951209>cast is all middle aged men and women>they see a young 18 year old>SUP KID>this makes people believe graves is a toddlerShe should be 18 because of the Apollo thing.
>>585952663If you don't want to engage in the conversation don't reply to me in the first place you retarded nigger.>actually 56% winrate is le healthy because the hero is easyRetard. Kill yourself.
>>585952672Flying characters are knowledge checks so pisslos get bullied really badly. He also doesn't get affected by some of the typical flying character counters
>>585952121IMO the only issue with him is that slowing hex, knockdown, and phantom strike do effectively nothing to him. make it so the counter items actually counter and he'll be balanced
>>585952786You didn't say what the right "knowledge" is.
>>585945671Her gun applies Toxic Bullets and various other debuffs in only 5 hits.
why the fuck is the bebop I raped in laning and went 8-0 against 8k souls above meretarded game
>>585952672He's not a gun hero nigger he's mohammed and kareem but with a jetpackIf he presses 4 on any squishy he's oneshotting you.
yikes
What about uhhh phantom strike Mina
>>585952818Knockdown worksPhantom strike should disable his jetpack for a couple seconds I agreeSlowing hex cucks his dive, but it should also stop the jetpack from cooling down while it's active
>>585952876>sit around and do nothing while bebop was on his grindset, improving his financial standing and getting womenBebop mogs (You)
how do I stop getting jumped by Mohamed and Karim when I try to farm jungle
How will theorycraft secondarybros explain this draft?
silver was just picked in night shift.................
>>585950479It needs to be removed from the game alongside all the other broken spirit items.
>>585953032fuck outta here with that i'm watching league worlds instead
>S++ilver pickedFINALLYITS /HER/ TURN
>>585953032>two shitty russian teamsSilver will not be picked in an actual game (vs BE)
>>585953103gg fucking ez
>>585953032The mokrillBVLL will carry
>>585950847Baba isn't a spirit counterpick, she's just overpowered and badly designed as a bandaid solution to spirit being OP. Except the devs are retarded and just made her flat out OP.
>>585953015repent kaffir and pray 5x per match facing east (towards Mecca)and try to learn how to recognize when you might get jumped, i.e. you don't see any of them on the map, or they're nearbyand buy unstoppable for fucks sake
>>585953032>>585953103YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE ME MAD
>>585953103If you're a real downplayer you're praying Kastalia picks any of your heroes because they're never going to win against Leviathan anyway.
>>585953229just buy rebuttal and spirit res, blyat
>>585953032>GT and Rem ban???
>>585952672>how do you get upset at Danny he does no dama-
>>585953103Wow 3 radiant regen characters banned and then a radiant regen character was first picked that's crazy
>>585952197Gee, if only 75% of the map wasn't outdoorsYou people say the most retarded shit sometimes.
when radiant regen gets nerfed, yam will be removed from pro play. unfortunate.
>>585953346Grey talon is good if you can aim and rem is good if you remember to look at the mini map.
>what if we ported Puck but made it bad, boring and bland?
>>585953346GT has been raping in comp
>>585952672>how do you get upset at Danny he does no damage, a fully charged shot at level 30 does as much as a single Paige shot at level 2danny shooting someone with strix salvo and hitting them does 400 damage at level 1
>>585953032>they had to give each team another ban slot because the balance in the game has genuinely gotten so atrocious that it is not playable unless you ban out as much OP AoE slop as possible
>>585953103AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>585953032>>585953103NERF SILVER NERF SILVER
>>585953489nigga who is puck
>>585953448If he's OP why does he have an abysmal winrate in any ELO that knows to play indoorsThe most important objective in the game is indoors too.
>>585953563the elf from berserk
>>585953394Yeah but there's nothing wrong with all these auto target abilities because... because there just isn't, okay?
>>585950126you know theres 3 lanes in the game and
>>585953346Grey talon has a spammable ability with times 2 spirit scaling the only reason he has a shit winrate is because a majority of deadlock players can not aim.
There should be no lifesteal items at all and damage dealing heroes should not have healing abilities at all.
>>585953547Before this patch they were already projecting that the pro format would change to 3 bans because the game would have enough heroes to warrant it you are overthinking it
>>585953346>"Pro" deadlock is just no lifers with 0 game concept who pick/ban based on vibesAnd yes europeans will continue to pick and troll on venator because they think he's so fuarking cool i love the crusaders deus vult bro
russians genuinely need to be nukednothing of value lost, not even the hot girls
>>585953605and harrow shouldn't be splitting in one
>they're cheating on nightshift now
>>585951946>still using Geist's rigSo, do the current lighting and shaders just apply this cleanly even to old pre-hideout update models? Or did someone go through the trouble of modding an updated model in?
>>585953032>>585953103THE STRONGEST!
>>585953567He has a bad winrate because he's new and you have the biggest retards playing him inting every game without the AOEslop the other heroes haveDo you remember your first 50 games on a hero, its always a learning thing. Especially on a guy who isn't Press 4 to win teamfight
it doesn't matter if you die 30 times if your team is doing good you get carried above me because the economy in this game is retarded
>>585953742Why is this not the case with any of the other heroes?
>>585953707and what do you think this guy with a triple single in all categories did this game
>>585953649Yes, the game has enough broken characters now that they need extra bans.
This commentary sucks
>>585951946why tf is this nigga so cheeked up lmao
>>585953793Because all of them are AOE slop nigger? And none them have unique movement mechanics like Danny
>>585953824They could have added 6 pieces of shit and it would have still went to 3 bans you nonce
>>585953668This but unironically
>>585953724That's an old screenshot back when he was still in the game
Warden and Harrow going to the bedroom to fuck and awkwardly fumbling because both of them were banking on the other knowing how to have sex
all these mods make the game look fucking ugly and retarded but i guess it caters to the 40 year old reddit tf2 boomers
>>585953741THE FATTEST
>be mina>lane against vindicta and graves>just destroy them because they're squishy>rush cd reduction and ult>works very well, 8 kill streak>fast forward 10 minutes>ult does nothing>ult and spirit sap and spirit rend does nothing>spirit burn does nothing>everyone on the enemy team has 50% spirit res or some shit>lose game
>>585951946literally built for sex
>>585954041Some of the skins are kino and professional-looking, makes me wish they'd just add cosmetics already.
>>585953881So Danny is OP, but the stats don't show it, and the other new heroes ARE ALSO OP, at a 50% winrate for all but Baba and RK?You realize how retarded you come across, right?
>>585954041trooniday using a troon skin, color me not surprised
Been losing every single game since yesterday Im gonna cry
>>585954106literally the exact same for Pocket maybe they really are meant to be together
>only now as of recently is wraith played in night shift>she wasn't even picked back when spiritual overflow/merc mag was op on her>had no buffs or nerfs since then>suddenly picked now lollmao"pros" are so fucking weird
might have to leave deadlock for a few months until people arent griefing on new characters in rankedterrible experience on top of having to deal with 50 iq retards who cant use mic to communicate or they're russian i guess who knows
Doorman should be able to instantly close doors again, no i don't care that kidnap and free escapes are a legit balance concern, he'd still be a throw pick aside from the most dedicated autistic one tricks and instant shut doors were hilarious for comedic bebop grabs and skill expression
I feel like I have no impact on the game as Danny but I'm still queuing him up because he's just that much fun to play.
>>585954106>have an advantage>doesn't press the advantage>enemies catch up after your peakwoah
>>585954192>Anon can't understand what indirect buffs and nerfs are
>>585954184>retard thinks its the players picking the skin
>>585954192there are no pros in this game, it doesn't have mainstream appeal yet and when it does, these pros will be exposed for ranked demons and nothing more
for someone reason people at my mmr don't see urn as an objectiveits just there to look pretty or something
>>585954327>it doesn't have mainstream appeal yetwho's gonna tell him
>>585953103>Venator pick>"Coach" is Parzelion who publishes the worst Venator builds known to manLol.
>Silver misses all her buttons and diesThat's cool where did they find my silver gameplay and upload it to DLNS.
What does Yoshi mean by a few days?This week or next?
>Get two russians on my team>Despite not living in Europe>They're perma-fighting>They never push waves out>Once they kill someone they run at the next target>Eventually lose because they're permafighting never pushing waves/objectives>Tell them that a MOBA may not be their type of game>They begin to speak whatever garbage ass language they speakWill normal people ever be free from the russian menace?
>>585954364>Parzival = ParzelionHello saar
>all walkers are down at 15>lane partner entirely blames me for the loss
>>585942151her win condition is the same as urs, get up in ppls faces. git gud
another leviathan game, more empty dreams feeding to nobodies
>>585954313the spectator clearly likes trooniday enough to put a troon skin on him and anyone who picks "her" is a troon anyway
>>585954240kidnap doesnt even work on the new map
>>585954479You have a mental illness
>>585949612left needs cheat death right needs stamina mastery
Can this clown stop saying viscount wrong, holy shit
CYKA BLYAT RUSH TESLA B00LETS AND RADIANT REGEN
>>585953346GT has literally never been bad, from time to time people just engage into a mass psychosis into thinking otherwise. He is basically Vindicta with all of the upsides and none of the downsides.
>>5859544122027
>>585954561Radiant regen is OP on Victor and Wraith sorry shitlow
>Grey Talon actually is always good it's just literally nobody gave a single fuck until this one "pro" game where /dlg/ will rush to the defense of the retard picking himYou guys are such queers.
>>585954192This happens in every gamePros are borderline retarded and can never figure out the true meta on their own
>>585954561Literally core on Wraith you're retarded if you dont build it
>>585954412100% next
>>585954561You do realize she does a lot of reoccurring spirit damage right
>>585954192It's because buff enjoyers picked her once for fun for Zerrgy to play and then they all collectively realized that she's busted.
Why are OP hero downplayers always so retarded and transparent? Everyone knows what you're trying to do and no one falls for it.
>>585954630>GT is bad o algoAnd other disingenuous things we say in Brick
>S+++ilver gets oneshot by violetITS NOT FUCKING FAIR
i'm betting that the next build that'll be in the spotlight for graves is some radiant regeneration build, then it'll be back to gun graves, then generic spirit graves, then tank graves again, then gun graves again etc.
>does nothing>still somehow casts a suicidal retardation spell on everyone
>>585954921Graves CDs are way too long for RR
I just don't understand why they keep consistently picking silver and feeding almost every game, there has to be some inside joke we're missing
>>585946412>>585946706Either get booted from the loading screen or people ragequit. AI is supposedly good enough to fire employees, but they can't add a decent bot to replace players midmatch?
GUNGODS ARE WE READY?NEXT PATCH GUTS RADIANT REGEN AND THE DOOR SWINGS WIDE OPEN
>>585954967LiterallyI was just in a game where the enemy had 2 rejuvs and my team all decided to bumrush the rift for literally no reason and threw the game
>>585948870>You>CAN>Kill Me
>Turn on Nightshift>Every hero has some gay nigger skinVery nice, I'm sure it really increases viewership
>pick wraith>win
>>585954967Fighting is the fun part of the game and it gives us an excuse
>>585942909>buy at 8 mins>t3 camp every 4:30 gives min 500 souls>after 3 uses/~15 mins youve attained ~1600 souls>you save time killing t3, deny enemy from getting it and gain 70% more souls from it>sell to break even???????? retards here dont even play the game
>>585955141FOR THE DJINN
>>585955141>pick silver>enjoy your free loss
what am i supposed to do against this line up
>>585954561I've built it on Ratking it's just good.
>>585949612I love doors that can only go 10 feet away on a kit that doesn't have synergies with M1s! Thanks, gunman!Shitposting aside I miss when gunman was actually decent
>>585954131Cosmetics/progression grinding will be the out of beta patch.
>>585955275You have Celeste and Haze and Ivy and Mo who are all busted too.
>>585955092If the enemy team has 2 rejuvs you probably already lost and doing nothing will just cement the loss. You either win the rift and stay in the game or lose faster. Theres no reason to not take the fight.
>SA playingOH NO NO NO NO.... NABROS... WHAT DO WE DO?
>>585955275not have fed wraith
silver is so op...
Unironically a Green Abrams skin should be a reward for playing the beta
>>585955275>>585955354This is guaranteed a matchmaking issue.
what is mirage doing here
>>585955275why is your celeste so poor
>>585954412>thinking Valve is patching on a weekendTuesday next week
>>585955382it's genuinely so fucking funny that these asian american faggot streamers lost to a bunch of brazilian favela monkeyseido and crayon are so fucking dogshit
so what do i do if i can't win lane as mina?I watched tutorials and i know what should i do but i can't approach them in lane without losing all my heatlhthis is my 5th match against humans and i already rquitted 2 cause i feel useless lmao, once the level and souls disparity widens i can't catch up anymore
Silver is bringing it back sisters
>>585955468comfort pick
>>585955541They used to, I miss that era
>>585955468The Djinn takes him where he's needed.
>>585953346GT is a big threat if he's good even if he looks like the grandma from Coco
>>585954630GT shits out damage but actually playing him is boring as hell to me.
>watch night shift>they're cheatinglmao and you think valve cares about their stats
do mobas ever get fun when youre losing
Could they really not find a better silver skin?
>>585955705>GT shits out damage but actually playing him is boring as hell to me.so baba
>>585954969needs further testing...
>>585955567ywnbaw
>>585955092If they were far ahead you would have had resistances atleast. >>585954967The amount of times you can ping it before they announce it, no one shows up early to help fight it on spawn is crazy. People would rather farm jungle than contest rift, full cooldowns up no one dead.
A shame this wont be a harrow or violet ult rework just a numbers tweak
>>585955731with a good team yes, sadly this is a tiny tiny percentage of matches.>>585955567You box run a
>>585955817never was my intention
>>585955438>>585955386>>585955354im kind of new to the game idk but this just feels so frustrating. i hate it when i go up against characters against which my character is really bad and then having like 0 coordination and then doing teamfights that are pointless because victor and rat king and violet are on their team. it makes me so mad!!!!!
>>585955574nevermind she died before she could transform in the rift fight
>LEVI THROWINGSILVER BROS ITS OUR TIME!!!!!!
>>585955259>Silver completes the ritual and her wish is granted>gets her shit together and turns her life around>sets aside her work as a bounty hunter to become a prim and proper maid>maid costume is canon and a useable cosmetic>returns for the next(?) ritual
why the fuck is ABL is on drifter? he literally cannot play anything but shiv or apollo
>>585954512Kidnap never really worked in general aside from the occasional Hail Mary play. Sure it was annoying getting hit by it but i also maybe was in the minority of finding it kind of fucking funny instantly going to the hell dimension when he hit me with a cart
>>585955928 blaming enemy picks for your failures is retarded and youll never git gud kys troon
billy decided to save his egg until the next game
So how did Pocket turn to shit this patch? I didn't see him get touched and he was an all around lane bully stat check before the map update
can't fucking wait for valve to disable any and all modding so i never have to see dogshit ugly meme faggot anime 50 cent skins in my life again online
>>585954623Everything is OP on Wraith, Wraith is OP
Does empty dreams only play Mina? Why don't they just ban it every match.
>Nightshift replace solomon with a white guyLmao what the fuck is this shit
Slowing hex should disable Danny's jetpack cooloff or something, easiest fix in the world
i cannot believe the team with more radiant regens is winning.............
>>585949234Try characters out in the training room and see how they feel
>>585956184Huh? He's still OP as fuck.>>585956309Wraith can buy probably every single item in the game including melee items and it will be at least usable on her. Meanwhile Venator can't buy 1/3rd of the items in the game and of the ones he can buy, most of them are bad.
>this caused a major controversy and was removed for clashing with the lore and aesthetic
>>585956327It's Solo after he gets his wish.
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?!
its time to confess deadtardsyou didnt abuse a hero that used radiant regen as a crutch right?
I can't believe Silver is losing... again...
>>585956534>2011That nigga is 15 years old
>>585956534
can you curse nurse in her ult?
>Celeste and harrow press r and whipe out our entire teamDamn ggs I guess haha
I'm glad Wraith is getting more play because she needs a nerf so bad.
>>585956534LEAVE HER ALONE!!!!SHE'S S+++ TIER... IN MY HEART!!!!
>>585956534YOU DON'T GET IT.SHE'S A SECRET TOP TIER.CAN 1V1 ANYONE IN THE GAMECAN 1V6 THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM IN ULTNERF HERNOW
>pick silver>loseits literally not a meme you WILL LOSE if you pick Silver
>>585955705I get that but bird bombing people from 6 miles away is hilarious to me so I put up with the first 10 or so minutes of dull shit
>every game is winnable you're the only constantexplain how I'm supposed to carry this
>>585956737make a smurf account and receive free wins
>>585956737>silver on teamit was unwinnable from the start
>>585956737dont have silver on your teamdont have mirage on your team
>>585956819Mirage is sleeper op unironically. Most people are just too stupid to utilize his kit.
>>585956737Have you tried turning off your mods? They are probably tanking your frames
EIDO IS PICKING GRAVES ON NIGHTSHIFT TONIGHT
>>585956737>even pros cant make silver worklmao and are people finally waking up to how stupidly ridiculous wraith has been seriously? Why has it taken this long EVER SINCE MARCH she's been ridiculous can do 1k damage before 8 minutes can absolutely melt objectives has a lane wide teleport has great CC + healing like why has it taken so long for them to realise how op wraith is?
>>585956664>entire kit got nerfed>she's still OP as fuck>only reason she is getting play is because of a nerfed version of radiant regenWhy did it take RR becoming IoTM for them to start playing wraith lol?
>>585956819Mirage is fine especially in retard pubs who can't keep their lanes pushed to save their lives. He has a niche. There is nothing Silver can do other characters can't do better (Yamato most directly)>>585956985Please, it'll be kino
>>585956923People don't play Mirage cause his kit puts you to sleep
>>585957064For me its the meme that she has a bad laneShe does not have a bad laneStrong as venator? No but its at WORST just decent and on a carry that's retarded OP
>>585957131That's the wrong way of looking at it. Playing Mirage isn't boring, it's relaxing.
Total Solomon DeathNot because he's Black, but because his kit is stupid.
>>585955354from ahead, they are busted when they can get ahead and keep pushing advantages. Hell Haze does have farm, except I imagine most enemies have Metal Skin or Plated or bare minimum Bullet Res.Mo is not walking into that pile of ultimate/spam dogshit and getting out. He needs people to go in with him, and if they go Indom he has to go Arctic or something
>>585957085>entire kit got nerfedyou act like she got the warden treatment she got like 0.000001 less damage on her cards and some other nonsense that literally didn't matter
graves makes me realize im just bottlenecked by shit aim
>>585957085Wraith has not been given any actual nerfs, though. It's the kind of cosmetic nerfs they give OP characters like Baba and Celeste to pretend they are balancing the game.
>play my first ranked match>everyone but me is ranked silver(? idk what the ranks are)>people are playing like psychopaths perma fighting both in laning phase and outside of it>will walk into a 1v2 with no objective nearby then spamping you for not having done it with themI just wanna farm bro, are all ranked games gonna be like this?
What is the absolute worst, weakest, most dumpstered lane duo
Mirage players often do well in my games but they have absolutely zero presence and don't really feel like they swing the game either way.
>>585957224>street brawlbro...nobody cares
>>585957085Do you think they made Wraith Black because they realized half way through making her that having a White woman covered in Spades would give people the wrong idea?
>>585957261Warden wasn't nerfed he was fucking taken out back and executed. Wraith was nerfed.
>>585957269I dunno why people act like aim is some divinely-imbued talent that you're either born with or not, just lower your sens and put your cursor on the heads dude
>Bepop hook goes through guardianDid it always do that??
>>585947593>Make the LOS more strict for her 3This shit's just inconsistent to the point I'd call it buggy. Sometimes I'll lose LOS from someone jumping while 15m in front of me (no cover involved), sometimes I'll keep it over like half a second following them around a corner. I play Violet a lot, I feel like her 1 scaling should be hit, the 1 alt should be ignored by minions/objectives (and perf obviously looked at), damage probably nerfed on her 3, and her ult should just be changed. It's obviously really good, but it's the least interesting/thematic of the aoe spam ults this patch has been plagued with, and the vision part of it is almost totally fucking useless - just take the opportunity to drawing board it. Since this is just a balance patch though, just nerf its duration and the silence duration.None of these need to even be substantial nerfs, her win rate isn't absurd, and while nerfs/fixing her broken shit like wave corralling would probably put her under 50, she'd creep back up as people get better at her, she's not quite braindead like Ratking to where her win rate stats are trustworthy, even if her ult is about that braindead.
>>585957085Even without RR she is still strong as fuck. They gave her a slap on the wrist but her main problem is she is the most safe m1 pick in the game.>Can hold multiple jokers that apply all suites>a 40 meter teleport with a huge barrier attached>has unlimited ammo for 8 seconds>a ult that shuts down all movement
>>585957412Warden is completely unplayable but Wraith is still the most braindead OP m1 character besides Haze.
>>585957394I had a Ren and Paige lane against Abrams and Mo or it was some other tanky character and there was almost nothing we could do
>deadname tranny>street brawl
>>585957398>claims to not care yet replies to him>reddit spaces>complaining about things only weenies care about>has killed himself yet.
For some reason, there's an absolute shitload of people who have zero idea how to play the game in standard today.And I don't even mean that in a derogative way, I literally mean they just launched the game for the first time and this is their first match.
>>585957530I did kill myself, but I came back. I am the prince of bones...
>>585957397Mirage is just the guy working behind the shadows pulling strings that you didn't even know existed. When it feels like he had zero impact he was probably a big reason why your team won, because if he's doing his job properly you're not noticing him most of the time.
second day of playing and i've already been banned, great
>>585957571I tried playing Standard yesterday and my whole team felt like bots. They just didn't react to anything at all.
>>585947593This + RR nerfs will be more then enough to bring Vio in line tbqh. Maybe reduce the spirit boost on her 4 a bit.
>>585957085>I swear it's this item guys not my retard proof kit! Nerf it, not my character!
literally what does rem even do he heals for almost nothing, die instantly, and maybe deals 200 damage in a lategame fight before evaporating in two secondshow is this not griefing
>4 lines of seethe over being told nobody cares
Wraith is literally the S76 of this game she's for the redditors who go "UGHH i have 5 kids and my wife's boyfriend only lets me play 20 minutes after work before she and him has to watch their netflix shows I can't learn a charaaaacter that takes effort i only have 20 minutes"
That Tom and Jerry Mo & Krill was terrifying.
literally never heard of them
>>585957476https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoQebnQBRCAIts cause all that matters is if one part of her hitbox can SEE one part of your hitbox, and dashing is all kinda of fucked. Add in the grace period at the end and it feels bad
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>585957670That's quite literally warden though what? He's peak dadgamer character.
why didn't silver carry
>>585957667>too much of a bitch to actually reply because he wants the last word
>>585957665Rem is a macro character that exists to deny the enemies farm
>>585957759bad pilot
>>585957698they're south americans>>585957748when was the last time you played the game
Doorman ever get picked for these matches anymore or is he kind of just never used by any team?
>>585957698the logo on the left looks like a butthole
>>585957571Because the people who play standard are all either new people or people with friend groups who queue together just to dick around. The people who know what they're doing are in ranked.
now that the dust has settled we can agree that all of these are terribly designed and have bloated toolkits
>>585957759Because the guy who was playing her fucking sucked shit. Didn't even build RR. PRobalby intentionally throwing to try and con for buffs.
>>585957798you mean collect the farm then drop it for the other team
>>585957261>>585957379>>585957502>>585957638>all of you missing the point this is about nightshfit never picking her
>crying because he got no updoot (You)
>>585957571The playercount has spiked because of this update, and some of them will stay. I imagine the average will be up even after 2 months.
>>585957886Nah, Danny is perfect, the rest are broken and bloated.
wishlist for the balance patch?
Alternate cast hold time doesn't seem to work with hero specific settings. I only want Holliday to have the shortest hold time but nothing I do stops it from being a global change.
>>585957798he just dies as soon as anyone spots him on the map trying to steal stuff
The mods like Drifter and Mirage are cool and then you get Silver Is Silver that much of an actual joke they couldn't give her an appropriate cool halloween costume and instead did some unfunny shit?
>>585957698YFP is a new team consisting of Goober and a bunch of shitters, Requiem is a Brazilian team.
>>585957886I like Danny.>>585957972Wraith deleted from the game like they did for Warden.
>>585957992>>585957904So don't get spotted, if the Rem is sticking around and siccing his minions on the slot machine that's on himBy the time my minion is done taking those I'm already back in my half of the map
>>585957886Danny is good, Harrow and RK are good writingwise, every other character needed more time both in their lines and in making their kits both more interesting (not AoE slopshit ults/cohesive) and less Overtuned.
I dont think they will nerf any new heroes. In fact, I think they will buff them. (and celeste lol)
>>585957972Mostly just Radiant Regen, like Violet will get touched regardless but she abuses RR the best now because of her 1 spam reducing cooldowns
>>585957963I did consider that it was because of CNS, but I don't remember it being that bad even on Violet's release.
>>585957972I hope they make Shiv's slice and dice do melee damage again.
>>585957972>ExpectationsSlap on the wrist nerfs for all the broken characters like Celeste, Wraith, Baba, Rat King, Violet, Rat King, etc.Radiant Regen scaling reduced by 1%Warden's gun removed from the game
the golden age of deadlock... 2024-january 2026...
>>585957886Danny is fine on his kit, he just needs a numbers tweak to make him not as shit as initial release, but a bit less oppressive, Harrow is in a similar boat, you weaken her ult by making it a cone that takes longer to fear, and maybe just a touch of her healing and she's in a decent spot that can be fixed down the road as more data comesThe rest are pretty AIDs though
>>585957886Deadman Danny is honest. Harrow is cool, but a bit overtuned.Rat King died for our Sinclairs.They need to find a way to address all the AoE slop going on in mid pit and rifts tho. Legit can't tell what the hell is going on sometimes.
>>585958095make solomon a new ult right now that isn't a lame doorman retread
>>585957972shrimple:radiant nukedsilver nerfsmo buffskelvin buffs
>>585957972Sinclair buffs but in a way that makes people think he's high skill so they don't complain
>>585958001In the absolute retards running this defense, they probably didn't expect anyone to pick fucking Silver
>>585957886Danny just needs to adhere to flyer item counters otherwise he is fine. Rat King kinda just exists and shits out and eats damage but he is such a big target I guess he kinda needs to?I haven't seen a Baba in like two days, no one likes playing her regardless if she is strong. Violet is overtuned, Harrow's 2 kills more allies than it saves
>>585958176I guarantee they won't fix Violet's stupid point and click stun hitting you around walls and cover when she has no line of sight on you. She's probably keeping her broken as fuck CD reduction too.
>>585957972Radiant Regen getting its knees brokenSome number nerfs for most of the new heroes
>>585953032>>585953103Drifter is fucking up the minority squad thing they got going on
>>585957886agreed, game was unironically better without them
>>585958142>>585957963>>585957571>>585957631valve majorly changed the matchmakingthat's why every single game is dogshit
>>585948871I like hybrid
>>585958339he's cajun so...he's still a minority
>>585957972Doorman buff, Silver change to make her late game not be ass or something since she's pretty dogshit if anyone does even one item to counter her, Warden buff, nerfs to Celeste and probably all the new charactersAlso buffs to the avoid feature so Apollo stays the fuck away from me
>>585958234They probably just couldn't find a skin for Silver that wasn't some sort of trans puppy girl fetish skin.
solomon should have been a dominos player
>>585957972I wish it was the big item patch but it's most likely notso I'm expecting some bandaid fixes until then
>>585958339he's the only actual minority there
>>585958273Saw a baba multiple times today and it took half the team to bring them down after lane. Obnoxious heavy melee build seems to be the favourite but ig its easy to rebuttal before the rest of the babas team melts you
I started putting my dildo in the freezer so it feels like Kelvin is fucking me.
>>585958365>change matchmaking>it gets worse>change matchmaking>it gets worse>change matchmaking>At this point just don't even bother.
i hate solomon in lane but late game he kinda does fucking nothingdanny feels oppressive in lane and oppressive later on tooviolet is only scary when it's a tranny with aimbot
>>585958440solomon should have summoned pizzas and sodas as a pizza delivery boy
Change Violet's ult to incorporate her brush.Instead of making it instantaneous, make her have to paint where the wall will 'drip' down.
>>585958339>is that a fucking white male
>>585958273baba is ugly, her voicelines suck and her kit while strong isn't actually that satisfying to useall around bad
Why is RR just now getting everyone saying it's broken? Hasn't it been the same item since like October from last year, save for a nerf a few weeks back?
>>585958485The annoying part of parrying is it doesn't block the spirit damage portion, doesn't reduce her 2s duration, and yeah you get a damage buff for a period of time but Rebuttal doesn't turn into a better item mid/late game.
>>585958461I'm expecting the big item patch in January.
>>585958485>trivially shut down baba in lane with rebuttal>it doesn't matter because she'll instantly steamroll as soon as laning is overwhat a fun hero
Its depressing to me that the most aim intensive hero in the new batch is fucking SOLOMON and he's still AOE slop to the maxDo you remember heroes like Venator or Silver? Well me either, can't have ANY heroes that reward good aim.
i've went >10 kills <5 deaths as danny for like 6 games in a row and i've lost all of these games
>>585958493i stand by the belief that the old matchmaking when it was just a single queue before they changed everything was completely fucking fine and fairly balanced all things considering
you guys wearing your night shift merch rn?
>the most interesting part of violet is the drawing on living ink>its basically never useful besides doing meme stuff like holding wavessucks i thought it'd be better like making bridges or making traps but its basically throwing when you use it
>>585958490damn does that actually work
>>585958180Make his 2 his ult and juice it. Call it "Pawn Promotion" and have him go, "You are all my pawns" as he uses it. Have it be low CD. First thought but there's a reason I don't work for Valve, but then again someone whose thoughts were "Make it an AoEsloptimate" does.
>>585958586valve game meta:>everyone plays the exact same metaslave builds>one day a pro experiments and finds something good>everyone switches to peddling the new opinion
>>585958689It's actually extremely OP if you want to abuse bugs like every player in the game does, you can make literally invisible dots of ink that block movement.Considering all the movement tech in this game is just bug abuse, I don't see any issues with doing this.
>>585958706sounds lame
Why does Wraith get a free 1v1 win ult so you can't even kill her while she's afking for 30 mins unless you commit more people
>>585958586People have realized that you can just build it on practically every character and it's alaays right
>Lethargic ass Mina with terrible movement and awareness>Parries a light during an early fight while at almost full HP, not looking and immediately post Rake>10 minutes later enemy Harrow auto-parry goes off when Graves light melee's about 5ft away from herYou cannot convince me half this playerbase isnt cheating
>>585958586NPC's just parrot the newest thing to be upset aboutI remember last year when the last batch of heroes dropped, first everyone was shitting themselves about Celeste, she gets nerfed, suddenly everyone starts shitting about Apollo, Apollo gets nerfed, suddenly everyone is shitting about Abrams, but somehow no one thought Abrams was a problem while the other two were going on? These people literally just pick a thing to be upset about and when it gets nerfed they need to find something new. They will never stop being upset.RR IS in fact overtuned, but even when it gets nerfed, these people won't be happy. They'll start complaining about anti-heal or something.
JUST BAN ALL RUSNIGS FROM HUMAN SERVERS ALREADY
>>585958648Silver is an aimless hero. You just need to hit the three shots from your 1 to transform, and it's easy since they're slowed/immobilized from your 2 and 3
>>585958586it has been secret broken since forever but people didn't buy it because everyone assumed it was just an item for self-damage tards like victor/geistit's been an ELO potion for me on ivy for months and i'm scared for my future now that everyone else caught up
>>585958430They found a witch girl skin for Vio so I'm sure there are some that aren't fetish shit. Why the fuck does the one nightshift retard keep the mask on when he isn't on camera when it's muffling his voice?
>>585958586The item has literally always been extremely strong, people just did not realize HOW overpowered it was until Baba was able to use it with 500 spirit power.>>585958827Celeste and Apollo were rightfully complained about and they are still some of the least fun characters in the entire game to fight.
>>585957972Danny made to actually get affected by anti-flyer/mobility items. Nothing else for him, maybe buffs down the line if that ruins his life.Various number nerfs for Baba/RatkingViolet's ult replaced with something more interestingSolomon's bishop tiles vertical range halved
New player hereHow is this character balanced? my only losses are to the demon they call Paige
>solomon/danny laneso what am i supposed to do
I got called a shitlow pisslow fartlow pooplow for saying pre-nerf Radiant Regen was good on Victor and Mo, now everybody and their mother is buying the nerfed version of RR on every character and begging for it to get nerfed/reworked/removed
>>585958827To be fair some characters are weaker while other characters are strong in the meta. Like naturally high hp heroes liko Mo and Krill and Abrams naturally become weaker when Shiv is meta, since he has a %hp execute. If he's nerfed, you'll see tanks played more often.Like if Pocket was meta right now and affliction was really good, people probably wouldn't even be complaining about radiant regen.
>>585958801Same reason Haze has two free escapes in case she gets caught out farming jungle
>>585958817Yeah the autoparry usage is really blatant in some games.
>bishop tiles halvedhe's already countered by Z axis >>585959037take over bridge or hug flanks, shoot them
>>585958689Doing some Arx Fatalis rune casting would probably be too hard in a fast paced game but would be infinitely more interesting than blocking waves or doorways with swigglies
>>585959026>0 denies
>>585959026Watch out, the Danny downplayers will come for you
>>585959053>skillshot>slight movespeed bonus>free escapesrent free god damn
>>585957972Rat King's Grenade nerfedPaige nerfed Radiant Regen buffedViolet removed from the game
>>585959041I thought this item was always meta on Victor, cause I've always built it on him.
>>585959121>ZOMG danny is broken in bricklo for a new player pls nerf!!!!!!
>>585959041whats funny is its still shit on victor and mo lol
>>585959026>shitlo stomp character is stomping in shitloDamn
>>585959041The next item will be Mystic slow, that shit is OP I legit make everyone snails whenever I get it on victor so fun
>>585959089>Z AxisIf you double jump, you can absolutely not single jump those tiles, in an X pattern, and the tiles come back if he moves the bishop at all
>>585959026Danny is by far the most unbalanced hero because every matchup is unfair by design. Whether that's a good thing or not depends, but danny is just frustrating to play against regardless of how well he's doing.
>>585958701Yeah
>>585957972Rat King buffed
they should remove hook from bebop and make it into a t3 active item
i don't even care about the balancing of the heroes or the items i just want them to actually hire programmer trannies that know how to make a balanced matchmaker algorithm so that every single person in the lobby is at the same skill level
>>585959234Zerrgy was building it earlier today while spamming Victor and that shit was healing more than infuser was.
>>585959149I'm just saying there is a pattern with the (good) M1 carries in this game: You are going to have some antimage tier escape bullshit.
>>585958658have you tried winning the game instead of just killing people
>>585957972Another Vindicta rework...
>>585959229Keep downplaying him, maybe if you keep repeating it he will be just as bad as you say
>another day no one going to pick rat king>bricklos and retards wuill continue to scream about him being broken>not a peep about celeste or shiv though
SOshould you solo ult a fed enemy?
>Rat King comes to rift>Doesnt use his ult>Dies
>>585959314>that know how to make a balanced matchmaker algorithm so that every single person in the lobby is at the same skill levelThat shit is impossible to do for a 6v6 game bro and you know that.
>>585959414only if you're dynamo and midboss is up and 2 of your team is dead
>>585959261if you double jump or wall jump. I've been playing this hero and his lane is strong but not insane vs good players, especially people playing M1 on-hit passives (infernus, haze, etc). just fucking shoot him. yeah, he abuses abrams and billy, but everyone does in lane
>>585959041A broken clock is right twice a day.
Will shiv be raped if they remove radiant regen?
BNUY RADIANT REGEN FUCKING NOW
>>585959659Shiv and Celeste will be worse than Warden if RR is removed
>>585956327>>585956505These same faggots kicked a guy out for saying the N-word though?
>>585959659They could break Shiv's kneecaps for another 30 patches in a row and he'd probably still be top tier.
>>585959406Again, these are the same people who kept permapicking/banning Silver even though she shat the bed every single time. As good as they may be, it's obvious there's not enough theory yet
>>585959716And then let him back in after he said "Sowwy" (and because he's one of the few actually good players) in spite of the fact ever other comment when he's on is people hating his ass. Yes the very same!
>>585957141>Wraith has a bad laneWho the fuck says this? Wraith is a lane BULLY.>Heatseeking cards that go around cover>60 round magazine makes securing souls a breeze>teleport to bridge buff>LIFT to win lane
ALL of the new characters are OP, as we all expected to happen. No, they will not get nerfed or re-worked or anything of the sort.
>>585957972Do your job YoshiBuff Silver
>>585959695>radiant regen on HollidayNo. She doesn't have the space for it.
>>585959695>no bnuuy hero
they need to give danny WAY less control over his dive, tihe fact that this faggot can turn entire corners is bullshit.
>>585959659Shiv has been nerfed 5 million times and he's still here
>>585959867a lot of people say it. and they're all absolutely retarded
I hope radiant regen doesn't get nuked too hard, I would miss my radiant regen/healing tempo combo on myVindicta
guys.....i think this game might suck ass
>>585960082next balance patch will fix it haha, just like the march patch... haha
>/dlg/gas are kvetching over thisKWAB
>>585960176Only bricklows
>>585959695>It's good on BebopDamn if only the retarded Bebops on my team that don't get any regen items until mystic reverb knew that
>>585960082>this game might suck assNonsense.
LIFTING
starlink is down, EU nightshift is cancelled
oh my god when tf is this nightshift game starting its taking 4ever
>>585960176now hover over the week after the buff
anyone who thinks wraith has a bad lane should be forced to play 100 games of billy in a row
>>585959695people are telling me to build radiant regen on violet
>>585956534They keep putting the dog down
So how is nightshift getting away with all their merch having Valve's logo on it with a tiny "night shift" in the corner? This shit is practically bootlegs kek
>>585959695why can't it be good on billy?I need something. please.how do I make him strong again
PUTIN JUST NUKED NIGHTSHIFT
>>585960543Billy has been powercrept out of existence by Rat King and Baba.
>>585960498>people are telling me to build radiant regen on violet???every good violet build includes radiant regen you dumb nigger
BLLLLLLYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
>>585960561generalissimo elon is throttling it
>>585960543While Blasted, his light melees are parry immuneHe can now reliably spam to get his bonus health before T3 Bashdown right now he is a frontliner who fucking sucks at being tanky
I thought Chudbringer played Dota? why is there no pos1 in his team
>>585960608cool it with the racism
>>585959695Start regenerating pal
>>585960468that's the winrate after harrow came out my beloved retardGOD
>>585955997>returns for the next(?) ritualThat's in 50 years, she'll be old and busted if not dead by then
>>585957886>Harrowvery cool design and abilities>Danielcool abilities but antagonistic and obnoxious to try and deal with>Babashe would be cool if her kit saw use outside of meleeslop, tea functionality needs to be reworked>Yakubtried too hard to be unique that it wrapped around into being overdesigned and overcomplicated aoeslop>Rat Kingunderdesigned, you could have no arms irl and still be able to play the rat>Violetthe most unremarkable bog standard kit aside from blocking doors with paint
>>585957571Yeah I'm one of those I have less than ten games played and every match the guys I'm facing absolutely know what they're doing already and I can't even collect my own boxes without dying because they already know where I'm going to go before I do
woah there's actually baba in a match. she's always banned
oh wow, that they bullshit sounds super awkward in cast format
Trying to get 15 wins in a timely manner on a support hero is fucking miserable
>>585959695radiant regen is a cancer in this game.I'm fucking sick of this leech + regen + self healing cock suckers. Give me Toxic bullets + Heal bane + spirit fire -> Ass beaters delight. Prevents barriers, heals, and instantly executes if the afflicted person becomes invincible.
>>585960791This post reads like I'm having a stroke are you ok
>>585957886I kinda like them all except Baba and Solomon, they're just so fucking obnoxious to fight against
>>585960796There's not a single hero that's forced into a useless "support" role in pubs except maybe harrow.
>>585959695How is it not S on Baba? Each bullet she hits enhanced by threadsap triggers the healing
hey how come nobody in dlns is playing billy? isn't he good? he's good, right? he's a staple of high-tier play, right? they should be picking and banning him, right? right?
>>585960825>beating off to men's asseswoah there cowboy
>>585959695>Victor on CIs this Deathy? Can't believe this guy is smarter than the pros. Radiant Regen is dogshit on Victor and so is max ult before 132. The guy is simply not a tempo hero no matter what you do, wallbreaker already got nerfed.
>>585960796Your team:>femalename_ttv>person on mic speaking russian>person on mic speaking peruvian>"First time playing this Holliday character. Man, she seems like she needs good aim! Haha!">guy who won't stop allchatting he wants to suck enemy team's Baba's toes>58 minute loss, enemy team always has 40k soul lead
>>585960938Rem kinda? You can build pillow but pillow is pretty mediocre and doesn't scale
>>585960981Nobody tell him billy bros...He's s tier in our hearts...
>wooooaoaoaohah deadlock is like SUCH a random game!!!11!!1>you're doing a billion nonsense things!!!1!>building is so hard!!!Are newfags and/or the discord just retarded? Build purple if you're a purple user build orange if you're an orange user, kill the thing in front of you. Am I the autism?
>try Solomon>move the bishop when I want to save my knighted teammate>move my teammate when I want to move my bishopWould it be so hard to make the moves with the alt cast instead of moving everything with right click?
Signs you're going to lose?>Team over-rotates for fights>Team doesn't use their mics
>>585960981He got nerfed really badly. He's outright terrible right now
jesus christ what characters haven't they moddedthis shit is full rice
>>585956737Only people that say this are coping retards that don't play anything else than mobas whos entire life revolves around the genre.Just had a game where i came out 8/0 in lane and the game ended at 12 minutes because the other team was just more coordinated than us.There is literally nothing to do when nobody on the team is on the same wavelength.
>>585961080Rem is the top "not a support" support.
>>585960981He's worthless atm because he has to use melee attacks and that makes him inherently bad.
>>585961303it's halloween retard
>>585961275>Signs you're going to lose?Trooniday on your team.
>>585961159its super hard to learn how to get from point A to point B the best way because there are ten gorillion possible pathsim like twenty hours into the game and i still get lost all the damn time
>>585961358no saturday is halloween retard :^)
any good skull graves build out there?
BROS paige is actually really fun
>>585961073Did you spectate my last match?
welcome to night shift where we openly show off cheat mods :)
>>585961389The only thing I can think of offhand is there really needs to be more icons to show if something is above or below you so you know what's rooftops/underground grind. Other than that literally just walk in a straight line until you get where you're trying to go most of the time.
radiant regeneration nerf when?
>>585961661halloween special retard
>>585961334How exactly are you playing him I wanna know
>>585959695I just messed with this page a bit and it’s genuinely terrible, none of the items make any sense
>>585961717Never, that would make characters like Celeste or Baba have to actually play the game.
>>585961159But building is hard. Every MOBA is a knowledge check on what the items even fucking do, and then another knowledge check on what items are good on your hero, then ANOTHER knowledge check on what items are good or completely useless on any given patch
>>585961724>its ok to cheat if its [goy holliday] bro!
>>585961683You can either be a better player, or a bitter player.Every loss is a win you dropped.
>>585958673I bet it was, wish I didn't drop the game when it was around.
>>585961806That holliday skin is your problem and not the Tom and Jerry MK or Bingus Rem?kys
who the fuck is bingus? I thought that was mew from pokemon
>>585961825He's 1/14/9 now
>>585961730Gun, specifically headshot build.
can the twitch overlay stop being broken I need to see what baba is building to confirm it's the same as what I build
>>585958658>positive kd on dannyloss>negative/even kd on dannywinshrimple as
>>585961987Why's Rem good at that?I can't really judge builds at all yet I'm still way too "green"
>>585961957And you're complaining.Learn box routes, secure/deny souls, call out rotations.
>>585961278I don’t think he’s that bad, just feels bad because now he’s low A tier instead of S+++
>>585961987He has an innate debuff to critical hits (headshots)
>>585962124brush your teeth, clean your penis, clean your room
>>585961683>echo shardBebop players need to stop this
>>585961730Just max pillows and bully the lane, spam sinners and rotate around for free kills. All in on spirit and pillowmaxxing. Never build support except for guardian angel.
Breaking news: Magnus Carlsen "doesn't care" about Solomon in Deadlockits so fucking over for us xisters.......
i hate how you have to farmlike i was up 7/0 in lane but i fell off compared to my teammates because i wasn't farmingbullshit
Little known fact: Solomon has free rescue beam
>>585949234You're thinking way too hard about this, just pick a handful of characters you like and simply hope the matchmaker will give you a competent team. Since the game is pseudo random you just want to find your playstyle and have fun. You literally cannot worry about team comps until draft. Until then you just need to accept some badly comped games will exist on both sides out of your control, just try and play your own game and do well where you can with what you're given.
>>585962709who?
>>585962709Carlsen only cares about chess and fantasy football (he's like top 5 world in that shit somehow)
>rat king least picked in dlnsTHE MOST HONESTTHE MOST PUNISHED
>>585962709fuck... how do we get the chess nerds to play our dying game bros....we need their macro strategies....
Why do I keep getting commended when I'm doing bad do people just spam commends on everyone
Another classic rusnig throw at Midboss
>>585963217yes
ummm I thought Leviathan was the best team and ABL was the best player?I can't believe /dlg/ lied to me
Solomon is the most honest character of the patch>b-but his midboss aoeslopI don't care.
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>>585963217When we win, yes, but I am more selective when we lose.
I buy healing rite to help my teammate during lane regardless of hero :3
>>585963329Leviathan has been getting gaped and raped by BE foreverThey won one or two weeks when BE took a break from scrimming to avoid burnout while waiting for the new map. Rusnigs bow to EU diversity GODS
55 minutes inEVERYONE is fullbuildPeople are still farming jg for some reason
>>585962098He makes a shitload of money and his bullets have really generous head magnetism, this is a headshot on the hideout abrams despite aiming at mid-chest.
i love that nurse harrow can just drag out team fights with heals and autowin them
>>585945839About to unlock Harrow and Ivy>>585946209based
just played my first few matches, played 2 games as billy and one as wraith. the wraith game went totally miserable, but my farm was bad and they had a bebop who kept hooking me in, i've had bebop in every single game so faron billy i had a lot of fun though, i was just smashing people with the 1 ability, and the ult seems good. the gun seems kinda shit but i didnt understand that you can get ammo back by meleeingwhen are you supposed to heavy melee in this game? i see people spamming it sometimes, when am i supposed to heavy melee someone in combat vs light melee someone in combat vs shoot them in the face as billy for example?
