>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesName reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4previous >>585938051
I'm ready
poo poo pee pee
Should I rush a mage or hunter to 60? Doing 2 different tanks with various friend groups, need a character to nolife since everyone else taking it slow. Will level by doing everything except new dungeons. Figured Mage could sell portals even if nothing else, Hunter seems a good farmer for mindless grinding and both could gather gold for leveling tanks professions and funding mounts etc. Am I missing anything major?
Guys what side is RAV going?
female human magepvpsolo
>>585965864class for this?
patch changes from datamines
>>585977218hunter as the solo leveler
>>585983342hunter obviously
what will it take for horde players to rehabilitate their image
>>585983352anything on other classes? for Druid, Warrior, or Paladin in particular?
>>585965864>average streamfaggot follower
I'm only wasting my time with warcraft again because the world is ending soon
>>585952246wrong previous>>585967779>>585967779>>585967779real previous
>>585979086Horde like all the streamers except baldy.
>>585983452Me too. I tried doing real life for the last 10 years but it was super gay. I will be focusing on vidya and vidya-related activities.
>>585983452same anon, same.
I LOVE Shortstacks.
I thought I was locked in for elf warrior but the gnome posters are giving me second thoughts...
Will the Dragon Aspects show up in the new Mount Hyjal raid? Or maybe some new high level quests? The models are there.
The first class in Forever will be Demon Hunter, as shown on the box art.
I'm rolling NE Priest
>>585983724That'd be kinda based.
still haven't decided class yet, kinda wanna do shammy because I haven't played one in classic before but they genuinely seem to be the most garbage class in WoW Forever just like they were in normal classic
>>585983352>frost blast removed
>make the coolest race in WC playable>make them look retarded and out of place in all available armorsWhen the FUCK are trolls going to get some love?
>>585983683>avatar troon>retardedThe pattern continues....
>>585983843Amani/Forest Trolls after Ogres trust the plan.
>>585983493>>585983703gonna need to see these babes in freshly soiled diapers
>>585983831its techinally still in the game files but the guy said its removed from spellbook/learning it
>>585983853they have better Druid lore than whatever the fuck they were coming up with for the other races during Vanilla
>orc lock>undead paladin>dwarf shaman>nelf rogue>skigh elf mage [forbidden paypig option]Which class will be FUN? Everything I hear about Forever makes me second guess every choice as miserable
I always thought the icon for Lesser Heal was a bone regrowing, but it's actually a hand casting a spell wtf?>Blue: Wrist>Yellow: Hand>Red: Spell
>>585984040stop caring about what you hear, what class / race combo vibes with you? what do you think is cool? none of that other shit matters, game is easy. if you cant find a group make your own.Ill be dwarf pala and itll be fucking great
>>585984071bro?
>now confirmation to not roll either Hunter or MageLock it is!
>God TierBRD, Deadmines, Scholo, SM Cathedral>Great TierSM Library, Strath UD side, SFK, UBRS>Decent TierSM Armory, Strath Live side, Maraudon, Uldaman, ZF, DM North, RFD>Meh/Forgettable TierDM West, DM East, LBRS, RFK, BFD, SM Graveyard>Absolute Shit TierStockades, RFC, ST, WC, GnomerLet the autistic screeching commence
>>585983724Look at that Gnome slut. Damn.
should i get new names?>maga pawg>reddit gold>ethanklein fan
>>585984040are you a gamerdad with 3 jobs and 5 wives and 15 minutes of gameplay every other month? you'll have plenty of time to play all of them, just focus on which one you want to start with, but don't hype it up for yourself as your main, because that is undecided
>>585984448not a bad list although it sounds like you got rekt/triggered a bit
>>585984071It always looked like a piece of wood to me.
still cant decide if i want to go druid or shaman
if I wanna be selft sufficient making thistle do I just go herb alchemy on my rogue
What cute thing did you do to pass the time today? Please respond this time.
Binding Heal is mathematically superior to Flash Heal. If you're going Holy there's no reason to keep Flash Heal in your hotbar. They cost the same, heal the same take the same time to cast.
>>585984448i'd move DM West below absolute shit tier, utter garbage of an instance
>>585984448>ignoring all the new, better dungeons
>>585984506based noticer. dont think robes showing shoulder were actually ever available. that said, that pic is old as FUCK, probably early promo material?
>>585984448>>585984769why do u niggaz hate west?i always liked it, it's fun
>>585984448>UBRS that far upNigga what
why are ledditors seething about enchanting vellums now? are they that lazy?
>>585984689I shitposted with anons on this very genny
>>585984582Druid is fun to level. Shaman isn't. Druid can PvP. Shaman can't. Both heal in raids. Go Druid. Shaman is fucking ass and probably always will be.
>>585984751You'd alternate due to the litany of light talent
>>585984582i would pick kiil urself
>>585984771We've only seen 4 of them so far, and ROL is really the only one worth mentioning. The rest are definitely in the "meh" tier.
>>585984689I jacked off to women being enslaved.
>>585984892Lack of vellums means that enchanting is exclusively a city-idling Services spambot profession.
rebbit posted mage changes 2 hours after herewe won bros, info is here first
>>585984771>new, better dungeons>excited to see wetlands ES hoping it'll be some kino>fight through some raptors and here's a raptor boss with no mechanics>fight through some crocs and here's a croc boss with no mechanics>here's some dragonmaw orcs I guessLast boss was sorta cool, but overall what a letdown
>>585984565kek same, but I eventually saw the pointing hand after like 10 years
>>585984868i just really dislike the design and travel in it, feels like it could've been at least two times smaller in scale, i don't get same feeling from DM:E or DM:N
is devilsaur set bop or boe? dunno if I need to go leatherworking myself to make it eventually
>>585984967RenewGODs? Flash Heal is an inefficient spell to cast. Renew and Prayer of Mending are the new glue that keep Litany of light comfy to play around with
>>585985270just look it up retard
>>585984868>do ze tree cleanup janny>half the elementals in the entire dungeon spam mana burn because why the fuck not>invisible nigger packs are so annoying everyone skips that one boss and goes straight up the ramp>bear bitch combo agroes from half the screen away and if you dont know you are wiping here for sure>arcane elemental minigame before the dog>last boss is some random cuck who just spawns in under the staircase
>>585985009>>585985176ROL, Dalaran and Thanes are definitely better than a typical vanilla dungeon
>>585984448Uldaman is pretty cool shit but too many retards don't know their way around it. Same with WC.
>>585985310>>585985253Hmm yes. I like most of that stuff. Admittedly it's kinda spread out.
>>585985310>>half the elementals in the entire dungeon spam mana burn because why the fuck notsovl desu
>>585985270>he thinks he's getting past the triad死亡将迅速找上你白人恶魔
>>585984868Only reason I've ever done that shitpile was for the epic warlock mount quest
How does retoilet performance compare to forever? I just got a new card and want to see how it will run ~
>>585985270We literally do not know the stats of gear that we couldn't get to drop in beta. Gear cannot be datamined until it has dropped for someone in the game. We have no clue if stuff in high level dungeons will be better than devilsaur.
>the lategame reagent bag is 32 slotswtf
new BiS laptop to play WoWF just dropped
taurenprot warriormale
>>585985310Mana burn enemies are only an issue if you're not using cc and your dps isn't using their interrupts.
>>585983328biggest retard in the general and that's saying a lot
>>585984071I thought it was a branch
>>585985451with the megaservers I think it'll be easier to hunt devilsaurs
Are people sleeping on Orc MagesI'm not going to play that dog shitBut it's easily the strongest caster in the game, rightAnd no one is talking about it
rolling warlock again I guess
>>585985661yes, and blood fury got buffer too lol also I'm pretty sure mages are gonna get a water elemental? is that gonna work with Command?
>>585985550>tfw my vanilla main tank from mc to zg was a taurenIll allow it, theyre such a cool race. Shame they look like trash in wow.
>>585985661already immune to runscan already decurse themselves
>>585984892because selling enchants is you standing on a street corner doing a little dance for money while other professions can just throw their shit on the AH and go about their business>>585985527will its screen crack too from a single spec of dust?
>>585985527laptops are feminine and mentally indian
>>585985661For dps? It's not bad but similar to skelf, troll, human, whatever.For pvp? I would rather be undead. Also undead racial is underrated for dps, probably not much less than other shits.>>585985757Hopefully not.
>>585981457We can still hear it
>>585984545why does everyone that share their name have it be absolutely awful. on reddit or here. same "pun" unfunnny nonsense. rather you go full rp
>>585985770stuns*
Regular 2500 player cap servers should be an option for players.
>>585985757Tooltip for command specifically says warlock and hunter pets.
mage sisters...
>>585984689I left the house the second my boomer dad's kirby vacuum salesmen friends showed up to get some mcchickensafter an hour of sitting in my car they're still here
>>585985661>warlocks face when they shatter your curse of tongues and pop blood fury
>>585983910H O P E
If there is one thing I have learned in the last few days is that blizzard is wasting their time trying to balance class dps in raids. Reddit and you tranny faggots have been freaking out over 9 races having less than a 1% variance between them. They will never get all the classes that close. It's not even worth trying to. They should strictly balance around 1v1 pvp, revert all the warrior nerfs, and tell everyone that doesn't like it to go suck aggrend's fat chode.
>>585984071I thought it was a purple candle burning
>>585985905Anyone who was gonna play fucking frost mage yet again when arcane and fire is finally getting some updates deserves all bad things they get
is enchanting really a bot professionI wanted to hand out enchants to my pals
>>585985928>reapplies curse of tongueswow that was hard
>INV OFF LAYER 57>Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]>INV ASMON LAYER>LFM UBRS post logsBout right for what chat will look like on a typical day? I miss anything?
I won't be joining your pedophile chatroom. I won't be attending your meetings. I won't be farming materials for you. I won't be setting aside time to be at the bi-weekly scheduled raid. I won't be wearing that stupid tag or tabard. I won't be joining your guild because you don't have a right to my presence nor do you deserve it
>>585986009god I hate these people
>>585985928you know mages could remove curses already?they are gonna be so sad sitting in poly while they wait for your frostbolt cast to reach 80% before silencing and locking you, then dotting you up and chain fearing you while the dog nibbles your ballsack
>>585986065there's some special new enchants so it's good
>>585985905I don't think I've touched a mage character in any version of the game in over a decade and this change still pisses me off. The entire point of ice lance has always been a shitty low damage instant cast that gets hella strong if you have a frozen target. It not having a cooldown never mattered because you didn't want to cast it without fingers of frost or another freezing effect up. Slapping a big cooldown on the spell now means you waste a ton of fingers and frostbite procs.
>>585986082Thank god she has the right fingers
>>585986065doing enchants for your buds is what it's good forif you try to sell your services publicly you'll be murdered by the trade cartels
>>585986127there's no global chat.you can only get layered by people in your zone, and it doesn't persist if you change zones.asmonbabs are all on PvE.dungeon finder.
>>585986127you forgot (something something Trump something something free Palestine) other than that nailed it
i need to poo but it turns out my paper is outshould i go buy or should i poo and shower my poopy butthole after?
>>585984448The idea behind Sunken Temple is 100% certified kino tier, but the execution is debatable
>>585985743same, but why the reaction? soul bag for shards is great, plus multiple shards per kill, raid portal, no soul well yet, but might be later, dps buffed as fuck as well, its fucking great time to be a lock
>Chuds that wear dresses absolutely seethingGETBODIEDFREAKS.
>>585986065wtf are you talking about?you don't have to make an enchanting bot
>>585985905As an Arcane main why should I be mad about this?
>>585986127Only if you're playing as a background NPC for a streamer AKA Alliance
>Shamans get riptide>Priests get penance+pom>Druids get wild growth + swiftmend buffedWhy did they go completely retarded with the instant heals? In Vanilla you actually had to cast the heals, instant heals were rare and on high cooldowns. Now every healing class is just spamming instaheals. Most of those were WotLK abilities for fuck's sake
>>585986009Nelf has had the most dominant racials in retail for years now without a single nerf in sight. They are by far the most picked race for both PVP and M+. So it's safe to say someone at Blizz is blocking their pet race from ever getting nerfed.So if NE is looking OP on Forever and you are afraid of nerfs, don't be. This shit is NOT getting changed.
>>585986382I don't know if you noticed anon, but you're playing retail lite.
whats the point of rp-pvp if you can't rp in the open world
>>585986382I suspect forever raids will be 5x harder
I'm still gonna play mage, and I'm still gonna have a pvp frost spec. I don't give a shit if ice lance has an 8s cooldown. Spamming icelance was aids. It made me feel like a druid. Oh yes, and I will be aoe farming.
>>585986382what retail stuff does holy pala get? Im too lazy to check
>>585952246Oh man, I loved this game.
>>585984780>probably early promo material?it was the picture on either the back or inside flap of the retail box iirc
fuck man I'm so excited
whats the point of making bait posts if you attach the same stupid animu images to each one so everyone knows to not read them?
>>585986468god I hope soI'm hoping even with them catering to casuals, that they underestimate how shit the average dadgamer/thirdie is and raids filter half the server
uh oh faggot cuck melty
>>585986551i do it to torment schizos and bpd freaks so they kill themselves sooner
>>585986009why are people seething that they made nelf playable? people dont seriously care about pve do they? the raids will be easier than tbc heroics
>>585984582People will put your penis into their mouth if you play resto shaman well on Alliance. They will fill your mailbox with mana pots. Loot council will constantly be worried about their one resto shaman leaving so shower you with loot. You will be inspected by GMs and officers when you're in cities and they will try to poach you. Friends are happy to see you come online. People will randomly add you because of the spec you play. People are overly concerned with leveling and ignore the quality of life at sixty. A geared, skiled resto shaman is truly the belle of the ball in any Classic-like expansion. Your penis will be permanently moist, and that's not from your Water totem.
>>585985563lets not pretend like anyone uses cc in vanilla wow dungeons outside of some specific boss figths
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>585986829yassssss
>>585986710The most cc I ever see in dungeons is in RFC because the tanks are too low level to hold good threat and nobody has aoe abilities yet.
>>585986829>literally who balding wanna-be streamerfaggot
>>585986065Enchanters will be able to deploy a group wide buff.
>Healing wave, Lesser Healing wave and Chain heal have the exact same iconsWtf?? How do you avoid misclicking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoFglWEa68era is thriving
>>585986659if I could play skelf shaman on alliance I would go that with zero hesitation, but dwarves are so uglyI'm leaning towards going shaman now though anyway desu, I think I might rather play resto shaman at 60 over resto druid and I would definitely rather play enh shaman over feral
>>585985270the items themselves are boe
>>585986995Why the fuck are you clicking your spells to begin with?
>>585986506you might be right. fuck me, its been a while since I opened that particular game box ...
So what is your endgame
>>585987062Not everybody is a psychic bro, some of us have to use keyboard and mouse.
>>585987007cool, no one asked
>>585987086Get to level 60Get pre-raid best in slot gearRun a few battlegroundsUninstall
>>585987086Fun :)
I wanted to play a gnome...
>>585987189This like totally isn’t fun though?
isnt nelf dodge racial counter-productive for prot warrior?
>>585987273They have a new talent that gives rage when you dodge.
>>585986995are you colorblind? they have differently colored icons to tell them apart
>>585987263I'm having funA blast, even
>>585987086be a sex pest
>>585987273No. Keep up next time.
>>585987273what? revenge procs on dodge too
>>585987398I know, that sounds boring.
>>585987368ah yes i see now. thank you>>585987413>>585987470ive never played warrior
Okay soHow bad are souls shards actually? I never played a lock but im tempted to. Did they get changed in forever? I know the basics like drain soul and when the mob dies you get a shard.
>>585987086Play for a month, maybe 2 or 3, quit because the game will inevitably turn to shit within that time.
>>585987190racials only matter for pvp
>>585987190Engineering spec is a dps buff they aren't counting
>>585987086Level two characters to 60, my main (healer) and an alt to farm gold. Nolife the shit out of the game until I'm in a position to raidlog (maxed professions, thousands of gold, exalted reputations, etc).Raidlog.
okay i think i made up my mind im gunna be a shaman chadill proly lvl a druid afterwards
>>585986409wasnt Dwarf BiS for 1st world races and not Nelf? and before that, some Horde race i can't rememberNelf is the BiS for PvP yeah
>avatar fag is a fotm whore to bootgrim
>>585952246>Be me, Wrath baby>Played DPS Warrior in WotLK, had the time of my life>Played Priest in Classic (Healer), had a blastWhat play? I liked healing, I like BGs, I've never tanked before, and I'm looking to cure my crippling paralysis by analysis.
trying mop for the first time and damn what a pile of shitno wonder everyone started cancelling subs
>>585987550the worst part was being down one bag, and I assume the shard bag can go into the reagent bag now so that's fixedmaintaining shards is easy as fuck
>>585987550They fill up your bags pretty quickly, and you have to delete them all the time.You can just use a macro to get rid of them.You don't need to use a soul pouch outside of PvP, or raiding. You'll only ever need a few at any given time when leveling.No changes in forever, no stacking.If you die a lot in quick succession they become an annoyance.
>>585987754mid-Cataclysm was the beginning of the end, and I was one of them...
>>585986382>the Great Forever Noticing finally begins
>>585987564but look at these numbers
I reserved my actual real name in Forever guys!Nick Gurr!
>>585986009They have nerfed racials into obscurity. Take "OP" orc racials for example:-Blood Fury: 5% more damage for 15 seconds, +0,625% more damage on average when used on cd.-Shatter Curse: 5% less magic damage for 8 seconds. 0,22% less magic damage taken on average when used on cd.These are hilariously tiny numbers, you are never even gonna notice a 5% damage increase. They might as well remove them from the game if they're so scared to make them decent.
>>585987684The only content Shadowmeld is bad in is raids so that is the one time you won't see them. They don't let you dodge spells or exit combat vs raid bosses with meld.
>>585987684Dwarf racial is really good as well for cleansing bleeds. Im guessing for world first theres some tech idk about but yeah. Nelf is just insane for the combat break. Shadow meld into drinking, restealth, cheesy m+ pulls, mounting, taget dropping, etc. Its just absolutely insane. It could be a 10 minute cd and would likely still be the best racial on retail.
>>585987980look at my assholethen start licking
Any opinions on the last name Maxwell for a paladin? I kind of like it but not sure
>>585988006this has been know for ages, same on retail. only sweats who play the game for money care about the 1 % boost the fucking racials give, and the grifters on youtube and twitch somehow convinced the vax cattle they ought to give a shit.I respect no one but people that pick on vibes.
>>585988070>>585988140oh yeah i never really followed the M+ "meta" so figures, i saw a Pilav video where the data shows that M+ pushing has absolutely tanked this expansion, it's basically dead, the only thing that matters in retail atm is Mythic Raiding (as God intended)so Dwarfs are still BiS i guess
>>5859879800.2% dps lolbut yes, eureka kinda sucks for everyone but rogues
>>585987871>>585987808Hmm okay thanks. I might give it a quick try tomorrow on classic to see how the vibes are.
alchemy looks pretty fucking nuttygonna go herb + alch
>>585987684Dwarf and Tauren get +2% crit damage which is one of the best dps racials in retail (y'know, the one retards called bad in Forever?).Dwarf stoneform can also cleanse basically ALL types of debuffs. It does bleed, disease, poison, curses, and magic effects in retail.
should I play Protection Paladin or no? is there any hope of being brought to raids as a Pally tank?
Horde... warrior... pvp.... but what race? I'm leaning towards undead.
>>585988421>Dwarf and Tauren get +2% crit damage
>>585988423>is there any hope of being brought to raids as a Pally tank?Some casual dad gamer guilds will take meme specs like that.
>>585988437undead is the weakest horde warrior (but you'll get the most updoots on 4chinz)
>>585988421>Dwarf and Tauren get +2% crit damage ????
Are they still changing racials
BEHEAD ALL FROGPOSTERS
>>585988376Tauren Druid alchy here. Gonna be doctor greenthumb up in the bitch
>>585988468>>585988508He is replying to a post about retail you stupid fucks. Those are the racials they have in retail that the devs wanted to add to Forever.
>>585988423You will never be MT, just an OT cuck who holds a mob in placeOT is the worst role to play in a raid by faryou'd be there mostly to give everyone a pally buff
>>585988468>>585988508I know english isnt your first language, but guys at least try reading.
>>585988526No maybe
is dungeonfinder really that bad?
>>585988561>retail>wowfg>you stupid fuckskill thyself, brave adventurer!
>>585985527i'm unironically starting to save up money to buy one of these whenever they release with the 2nm M6 or M7 Pro/Max chipsperfect AI machine + WoW Forever on the go + more recompiled native MacOS games showing up everydayperfect blend of software or hardware that i can't get on Windows thanks to Microsoft, Nvidia and their bullshit
only part about shaman thats going to suck is druid can solo basically anything with entangling roots, can stealth through stuff on cat, etc, and shaman cant do any of that...
>>585988595They removed it. But it was dogshit in forever. It was additive, unlike in retail. As we keep telling you.
>>585988727shut the fuck up
>>585952246Man, this Forever actually sounds good. I was a BC, Wrath, Mists guy, but with how unrecognizable WoW is nowadays this might be my bag.Redpill me on this shit.
damn this was nerfed to 10%? it was 20% in classic.doesn't seem to be this last patch.honestly a really shit change. demonology is op dps right now but it's not because of this. pet is only 20% of your dps.
>>585988727just play both :^)
>>585988773
>>585988807oh who gives a shitit's fucking nothing niggershut up with your whining your stupid faggots!!!oh no -10% damage on my buck sneedily :((((((((((((time to kms :(((((((this is nothing like my vanilla :((((((((((((((((((((((((>>585988727also kys
>>585988802its 90 % classic content. looks prettier though, Ill take.
>>585988951Buck Sneedily is like 33% of my dps…
>>585988951the point is that the talent sucks and demo is op for other reasons. it's just not very fitting that pet dps increase talents are the worst dps increase talents you'll take for a fucking pet spec.
>>585989070i dont careall the other shit changed toour buck sneedily is gonna be just fine stop being a gay little retard ok? ok ty
>>585988807hmm maybe its because of these....its a mystery,................
Warlock or Paladin
>>585989113oh my god blah blah blah blah blah
>>585984448God I fucking love Blackrock Depths. Some of my fondest memories of this whole game are from Blackrock Depths. Once took a party through it where none of them had ever run it before and they were all awestruck by the place, like "there is so much STUFF here holy shit">>585986289Preach it. That whole upper ring with all the nothingburger troll minibosses is just pure filler. Avatar of Hakkar is a really good fight that level, at least.
>>585989176apples or oranges
i cannot wait to break you all in with my warrior.
>>585988580>OT is the worst role to play in a raid by farNah, its comfy. Parsing doesnt apply to you and all thats expected is to apply Sunders during trash and pick up the boss if the MT dies. You still get geared like the MT.Easily the least stressful role in a raid and I always yearn to be the OT.
>>585989176one as main one as altboth femhumies with tiger rep mountthe kino will be off the charts
>>585989176those two are on opposite ends of the class fantasy spectrumhow can you not decide this for yourself? What do you align with more?
>>585989282Oranges, of course.
>>585989014Isn't it like Classic+? I know there's a bunch more quests, zones, spells, etc.
>>585989171yes even with that each point is like 0.3% dps
>>585989376well, there you have it then.
>>585989276this guy types like such a cringe redditor kys
uh oh grumpy
>>585989469no u avatroon
>>585988627Point and laugh at this thirdie that didn’t play the beta
>>585989332>class fantasy spectrumthey're both slow and tanky toolbox classes
It's coming to forever.
>>585989405Thats the shit they advertise. Reworked zones, added quests - but the world and just about everything in it is the same as it was in vanilla. Theyll change up the balance and stuff but 90 % of the everything in this mode is shit we have already seen. I dont mind though, might be fun. If not, Ill stop and all it cost was 13 bucks, Im not a cuck paying 30 buckaroos for blue elves lmao
>>585989317I have only ever died to a warrior once, and it was a female human in un’goro popping 3g of consumes and would double charge my pet and then me, and it was perhaps one of the first players I encountered that didn’t roll over like a good cuck.I presumed to charge her (him) 12 times, dying every time, until I finally learns how to reliably kill them. On which the ignored me on discord and my ally alt I was using to msg them.
>>585989319I guess it depends on how you look at it, for me it was incredibly boring because you couldnt see yourself on the meters and like you said theres no stress to it, youre barely responsible for anythingpicking up the boss if your MT dies and finishing the encounter is pretty kino though
>>585989332>>585989531yeah they're not actually THAT far apart, thematically they're opposites but the gameplay opposite of a warlock is more like druidopposite of a paladin would prob be mage
I am asking that we stop using coomer images for the OP so much. Not because I'm a prude, but because it makes it hard to find the thread when it looks like the 30 gacha generals in the catalog that do the same thing
>>585989702when you go to your browser's url bar and type 4 it should autocomplete to https://4chan.org/vg/wowfg
>>585989778noble shamans is revisionist history that Thrall was taught by depressed old men without experiencing it himself
pic rel, faerie fire, and CoR all reduce armor by the same amount. Think they stack or only 1 applies?
>>585989949Only 1.
>>585989845her boyfriend? a goblin of course
>>585989949no hunter pet skill is better than its class counterpart, this might be a tooltip bug or you havent seen the other ones
>>585989949doesn't stack worse than FF in PvP.
>>585989992the number of warlocks brought to raid has suddenly dropped to 1 then
>>585989845her boyfriend? a goblin of course that watches a male human warrior dick her down
>>585989624Housing is the main reason every patch in Midnight has been a broken mess. Whenever they change a minor thing about housing it breaks something else in the game. The fucking Thunderbluff elevators got deleted last patch!
>>585989845is her diaper black or white?
>>585989845gen her with a buttplug?
everyone is going to play for one (free) week and realize this game is outdated garbage with a combat system that only masochist retards would play again and everyone is going to drop it and go back to their old games
>>585990182umm no sweetie I will be having a blast
>>585990182REEEEEEEEtoilket cope.
>>585990182this is the only combat system that EVER worked for an mmo. fuck thee off back to /v/, nigger.
>>585990182The zoomers will probably stick around until their streamers tell them to play gta6.
>>585990350Tera's combat system was 1 million times better
>>585989778because metzen is a dumbass that thinks orcs are cool but tries to cope by also saying theyre secretly not evil monsters when they already had multiple games proving otherwise
>>585990124I will give them credit placing furniture reminds me of the rts, and I was that autistic gamer that would make every building follow a pattern, usually it was squares...
>>585990396and wheres tera today then ... ?
does anyone want the name Ludo Kino
>>585984689sleep, its the only way to travel forward in time
>>585990182Back to your troon containment game
How do you feel about carrying console cattle through your dungeons?
>>585990148https://files.catbox.moe/v8nudi.png>>585990182nah
>>585990547doesn't matter bc consoles are dead specially after this month's explosion in AI recompilation efforts
post music to game to alliance chads onlyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU-DPou8Na8
>>585990547I can comfortably play Tank or DPS on a gamepad.Healing, I've actually gotta lock in and KBM, otherwise I'm griefing.Goes to show what actually takes effort to play.
>>585990547how will console players communicate
>>585990547I’m sure you will be able to see who is on what console. This is common is most games now.
>>585990547>yfw you realize the group's tank plays using a gamepadAh, the gamepad tank memories from FFXIV
>>585990124>my hope and dream of finally having an autistically long set of stairs going up to TB, shatteredOh well
>>585990753Slurs over the Xbox mics Like the good ol days
Do hunters still get a free mortal strike on their pet, or did they nerf that
>>585990753they won't, they'll be deadbecause i already kill them
>>585990847pretty sure they nerfed the % not sure how much
>>585990350EVE? It's radically different but it works because it's space sim combat applied to an MMO
>>585990753like old nokias. hit the same button 10 times until you get the letter you want.
>>585990741im swapping dun morogh's music files with ready steady go
I don’t get the fascination with new hunter pet abilities when broken tooth paired with claw and hawks could probably permanently knock back a caster for an entire minute.
i havent kept up with any of the changes they have made but i got a free code from a friendwhat am i in for?
>>585990907How does combat in EVE even work? Do huge ships just autofire at everything in range?
Why is it every time I see a rogue clip, they open with sap, but they don't abuse any of the shenanigans that that strategy is good for, like double cheap for combo points, or expose armor and restealth?They just open with sap, unnecessarily putting their gouge on dr should they need it, then they open with a standard cheap into kidney anyway Do they know something I don't or is everyone retarded but me?
So who is more sweaty horde or alliance?
>>585989845>5 fingers
>>585991094the only combat that anyone ever cared about in eve was when so many people showed up it was an incoherent clusterfuck in short, the combat is shite
Class and spec for this feel?
>>5859912274 fingers looks stupid
>>585991259daww cute burgie get in my tummy burgie you don't belong out there
>>585991259timmies could never
what if hunters could use tame beast on druids and the druid had to make a new character
>>585983724Spellbreaker for both factions, with the Blood Elves rejoining the Horde. Horde Spellbreaker has specific fel-based Demon Hunter abilities a la how Priests get racial class abilities, and Alliance Night Elf Spellbreaker has Warden-based abilities.
>>585989845MountedAgainst WallBottoms asideStart Gen
>>585991139>is everyone retarded but me?*saps u**spazzes around for 2 seconds**stealthes around for 2 seconds**opens**deals 0 dmg**vanishes*
>>585991354What if they just became my health pet forever?
>>585991091something extremely gay
>>585991302>he doesnt want a gnome girl to stick her giant index finger up his ass while blowing him You are not my brother.
>>585991369Sentinel class>spellbreaker>demon hunter>warden
>>585991302That's what makes gnoemsn a bnumans different
Make forsaken have baseline immunity to fear but have them be classified as undead instead of humanoid
>>585991448mage
>>585991448Dwarf Shaman
>>585991470How will you heal them?
>>585991448female dwarf rogue. guaranteed.
>>585991448gnome lock
>>585991470>fear and poly immune No i don't think so
>>585991094You lock your target, calculate range, orbital speed, rotational velocity, ship signature size, damage resistance, weapon and ammo range effectiveness, skill levels, run the numbers in your head, realise the battle was already decided 2 hours ago and die.
>>585991576warlock must shadowbolt them
>>585991094You click an enemy, target lock him, be in range of your guns/missiles, pick your flight path (because staying still means you can't dodge), then fire your weapons on him. If you right-click a gun it'll automatically retire once it reloads. Just go on youtube, there's tons of footage.Then there's more advanced stuff like cloaking, drone combat, webbing, etc
>>585991448Warlock/Shaman.
>>585991582The entire journey of classic wow and anniversary I have seen a total of 1(ONE) female dwarf rogue in the wild, and it was rare enough to be memorable years laterThis anon knows his shit
Give Tauren even more of a health bonus but make them literally unable to wear shoes or helmets>>585991576Nature healing
>>585991448gnome warlock
>>585991448troll/undead warrior
>AI spammer and honkai avatarfag in the same threadYES!
i hope you guys are aware of how absolutely INSANE the gaming landscape is out there at the moment, every console is hours away of being reverse-engineered and there's actual native PC ports of console games being released daily and pickup up in pace quicklyand this extends to PC games as well, so playing WoW Forever might unironically be the last time ever we get to experience something like this in our lifetimestreasure it, enjoy it, take your time, make some online friends, this is probably it folks
>>585991448seconding female dwarf rogue on ally and troll warrior on hordeyou will not find a doppelganger
I dont know why trolls can’t wear boots properly when they have feet that aren’t hooves and itd make them look way cooler
>>585992025good, fuck consoles.
>>585992025I really really really really cant wait for the gaming ceos to start fighting with the tech bro ceos I hope it burns everything down with it.
>warcraft 3 expansion doesn't have any RTS levels after the tutorial campaignwhy did they drop the ball
>>585992025I could already emulate shit though. I doubt most of these slop-decomps will be maintained properly. Ashes to ashes and slop to slop.
>>585990660thanks, gnome women sexo
>>585992235there's no market for actual rts gameplay in 2026except for the toombers who've been in the scene since 1999
>>585989949>an abrasive cloud of dustwhat the fuck am I reading
>>585992430What's the problem?
>>585991448troll warlock probably
>>585992506why would an abrasive cloud of dust reduce your armor?
>>585992235Because RTS campaigns are just tutorials where you unlock new units/buildings every level and they didn't release any new race to make a campaign around.They just released a new hero so they did the Rexxar thing.
>>585992608It just does, OK?
>>585992235Eh even base wc3 was mostly hero focused instead of RTS. Thankfully the Ai for bots is good enough for you to enjoy and bridge the gap between campaign and Ai. Or just play sc.
>>585992612I want a rts with a focus on single player you could probably do some shit with it like dialogue options and branching paths and other stuff wc3 is basically the only game that does this >>585992362i watched a zoomer try to play wc3 and he was having an actual panic attack at the halfway point and couldn’t handle the missions
>>585991460would play
what are the most tranny coded classes?
>>585992949SC2 also has branching paths.Unfortunately SC2 killed the RTS genre same as WoW for mmos did by making other devs think the multiplayer and e-sports are the way.
>>585993138druidpriestgnome roguein that order
where's the prestor porn. links or gen it gay retard nerd virgins
>>585993138in my experience, warrior
>>585992608Look at the icon. It gets in your eye. Harder to defend yourself innit
>>585993138Surprisingly warrior now.
>>585993138druids, all of them
>>585993276suppose yer right
>>585993207It might just be me, but honestly between wc3, sc1, and sc2, we really dont need more RTS games. They all have their niche and I cant really see a game being better than them. Especially now that blizzard is willing to make expansions for their older games. Like the forsaken kingdom. God a protos sc1 expansion would go fucking hard, especially if they nerfed the FUCK out if protos. Man fuck protos in sc1.
>>585992949even the hero focus missions have potential to be expanded as its own game. I actually liked the rts gameplay mixed with Diablo style dungeon crawl. It was satisfying party style dungeon crawl that was different than something like baldurs gate. I think you could make a really interesting game based on that if you expand it. Like stirring rogue and starcraft in a pot Like some intense dungeon dive game where you have to be self sufficient establishing outposts and resources on the way. Giving you a bit more of a rpg character building for your hero and abilities for your underlings.They skirted against it and then nobody seems to have developed the ideas at all.
>>585992949>i watched a zoomer try to play wc3 and he was having an actual panic attack at the halfway point and couldn’t handle the missions
>>585993849>Having to track 2-3 expos >constantly juggling between sending units to objectives while defending base from waves of attacks>Have to constantly switch attention between shitI don't get it, this seems to be right up the zoomer alley.
>>585993138Druid (self explanatory)Gnomes in general (weird troons like to play gnomes)Warrior (parsetroons)
>>585993138being obsessed with trannies is a mental illness
>>585993849And WC3 is a relatively low apm game, how would he handle SC2?
>>585986172>cooldown never mattered because you didn't want to cast it without fingers of frost or another freezing effect upevery fucking mage ever spams it like a fucking retard instead of casting anything or fire blasting your ass
>>585989845>>585990660Man I love Gnomes.
>>585994105Zoomers are adhd with low reaction time and low apm
>>585987980what website is this?
If they aren't going to give Ret actual shit like Templar's Verdict or Divine Storm (tweaked or not), why not just make Holy Shock the intended build and remove this twisting bullshit. I always hear about how Prot is a spellpower tank, so why not make Ret the same?
>>585994105>>585994234Grubby will save him from moba damnation
>>585994360He just ripped the numbers from here:https://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/races?class=warlock&spec=affliction-warlock
Is warden even a viable class or is that like if Guardian[of tirisfal] was a “class”
What's the point of night elves now that we have blue elves?
>>585992025This is very true for a variety of reasons. We probably won't have another traditional mmorpg game like this for a long time. Not to mention that pc gaming in general feels like it's slowly on the way out.
>>585983445You're about to play a streamer gamemode
>>585994514better racials
>>585994448I wish I could play online but the ping from aus is gay
>>585994450ah thank you
Touch of the grave is low key kinda OP.20% healing and 20% damage per minute
>>585994409Just play warrior, paladins are for healing
>>585993258>>585993305>>585993320>>585994141>playing warrior + druid>only have AGP, not a trannynot quite
>>585994472It's about as viable as demon hunters are. Highly depends if current blizzard have creative and capable people to make it into a cohesive class (they can't)
is wowhead out of date, or did they nerf this quest after the end of the beta?https://www.wowhead.com/forever/quest=97250/wrongly-blamed-justly-corrected
>>585994105Zoomers want a team so they can place blame on anyone but themselves.
>>585994761>generalizes from a single anecdoteare you sure you aren't a woman?warrior druid is kino and I hope I get to play with you fellow AGP nona
>>585994472Ehh you could probably do something with it. I think a midrange class with glaives cleaving as a baseline could be neat. The most unique thing is for sure the blades. Then for specs, maybe a poison one, maybe a mobility focused one going in and out of melee range with blink, and then I guess a tank one. Could make the spirit of vengeance a neat cool down where you summon a temporary minion that deals damage and maybe you can swap places with it or something.
anyone watching the animated trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPbTAXZL_2Akinda enjoying the music but feels a bit off base both with the music and animation
I still haven't decided which faction to play...I want to roll a shaman and rogue, which races are good for these classes?
>>585995076It's a call back to old pvp movies
>>585994891They nerfed almost all new quests after redditors complained about blue gear rewards.
name a class that has been nerfed and had spells removed in between beta and launch.
>>585995113>I want to roll a shaman and rogue, which races are good for these classes?Skyborne, of course
>>585995174it was still a blue at the end of the beta thoughdid they rebuff it back to a blue, and wowhead never updated, or did they nerf it after the beta ended
>>585995076it's cringe and kino at the same timehow can anyone NOT roll a pvp server after watching that
Never trust this echo chamber
it's kind of weird that they're committing to no outland everi feel like the existing outland content wouldn't be that hard to adapt to a vanilla-esque play experience and it was literally cut content from vanillathey've made it clear that northrend and pandaria aren't off the table so why is outland verboten?
>>585995887Damn, I wonder if that giant horde only pvp tournament had an impact on this.
>>585995282I am only paying for the sub not the new races
>>585995914I think the issue with Outland is that it makes the world fragmented. By instancing your entire max level population out of Azeroth and making a new hub somwhere else the world and main cities feel empty and dead. Future updates should use the current world as much as possible.
>>585991369Demon Hunters have no demons to hunt.
>>585995887>including pveLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>585995353my friends don't wanna deal with pvp after their experiences in 2019 and i play with my friends
>>585996206horde is the one that's locked constantly for character creation, at least on PvP NA
>>585996197If they ever want to include outland they could maybe just turn it into a raid with the hellfire peninsula land type and have Illidan at the end. A lot of the stuff was superfluous like zangarmarsh and nagrand, they were never really mentioned in WC3 and could have been cut without hurting the story.
Threadly Reminder: Blizzard promised last month before the Beta launched (best time to lock in pre-orders) that they would backport in the missing classic animations that got lost when the player models were remade during Warlords of Draenor. These were animations like Racial Weapon Attack Animations, Spell Canceling Animations, Breathing and Idle Animations. This also included the notorious Jiggle Physics (in reality, missing Female Model Run and Idle Animations). Once Chuds started complaining about missing Jiggle Physics; Blizzard realized they could reframe the entire issue as one of Toxic Gamer Masculinity and get out of having to backport in ANY of those missing animations. Now, not only is Blizzard not backporting ANY of the missing animations they promised to HD Model Enjoyers, these animations are ALSO missing from the SD models that have always had them (because they use the WoD Skeletons & Animations).Everyone should be rightfully fucking PISSED that Blizzard is now screwing EVERYONE out of all these missing SOVLFVLL animations that have been gone from retail since WoD and have only survived in Classic. But unfortunately because /wowfg/ is entirely populated by Women, Homosexuals, Trannies, and Ass Obsessed Brownoid Zoomers, this issue is being suppressed.The only people willing to stand up for Big Beautiful Bouncy Boobies are Straight White Fashy Men. That's just the reality of the world today. Blizzard has banned the word "Jiggle" from the official WoW Forums and have issued a Fatwa to the Moderators of all Official WoW Subreddits. Anyone who brings up this issue is to have their thread locked, deleted, and be banned on sight. No other issue facing WoW Forever is being censored like this because it allows Blizzard to get out of having to do a MASSIVE amount of work they PROMISED the players they would do. It's like if they got to get out of producing an entire raid tier because "Only Toxic Chuds were Looking Forward to that Raid".
>>585996197>your entire max level populationwell, that's an issue with the strictly-vertical expansion structure of retailforever has already committed to adding new content at all levelsOSRS added a(nother) new continent in 2024 and it didn't do anything to player counts in the existing landsyou just need to make sure there's activities to do in every locationin any case, this is an issue with any new continent, and they've already said that new continents are on the table even if none are currently planned for the next couple years
>>585996278Your friends are weak.
I can't wait to kill a streamer and have them see my name.
>>585996375tldr
>>585996484>new continents are on the table even if none are currently planned for the next couple yearsWe're going to be playing this shit well into our 40s huh? It really is becoming the millenial retirement home.
>>585996627assuming blizzard doesn't strangle the goose that lays golden eggs, yes
>>585996375do you really think devs are taking notes from this general? the fuck do you want us to do
>>585996375>Blizzard promised last month before the Beta launched (best time to lock in pre-orders) that they would backport in the missing classic animations that got lost when the player models were remade during Warlords of Draenor. These were animations like Racial Weapon Attack Animations, Spell Canceling Animations, Breathing and Idle Animations.when did they promise to backport every animation? they showed off at blizzcon that they had already backported some, but i don't remember them saying anything about doing more>Blizzard realized they could reframe the entire issue as one of Toxic Gamer Masculinity and get out of having to backport in ANY of those missing animations. where have they said thisi haven't seen any discussion of this topic anywhere
>>585986954ALEX HAS MILLIONS OF FANS
>>585996551
>>585996206olympus is going ally pve on launch pvp on eu and na are horde lcoked
>>585996375>because /wowfg/ is entirely populated by WomenHey, girls like nice jiggly breasts too.
Do I play dudu on rppvp or wahrior on rppve?
what is the best leveling build for shaman?Is it Resto to Watershield -> 4% Crit, and then respec to stormstrike at 25, or is Watershield still better until Improved Stormstrike?
locked and secured
did this affect arcane wrath before?
>>585997201just b urself
>>585993138>5 replies from deflecting paladins
Curious what they'll do with the Gates of AQ
>>585997303George?
>>585997201what's even the point when you'll just roll druid
>>585996375It's just a cash grab, that's why they have the tranny janny shills camped out 24/7 here, reddit and the officials forumsThey even got the old mods of the classic wow subreddit removed six months ago, this whole exercise isn't about classic + but a way to get a quick cash injection for their quarterly financial report to try and stave off getting BioWare'ed and to make it look like they're competing with gtaskin suit blizzard is fucking scum, always has been, always will be
>>585997201i'm keeping water shield until 31 and then switching for imp stormstrike. i don't know if it's better or not but playing without mana regen feels like shit.
>Nerf blizzard slow because it's too good>Let hunters have an instant 36-second aoe slow that also roots for 5 seconds and has >100% uptime
that's so weird i'm looking through all these changed spells and i don't see the part where they unraped ele shaman am i on the wrong page haha where is it
Is Windfury Totem that cracked?
>>585997478no it was datamined today
>>585997551they'll remain sealed in this timeline, and we will instead infiltrate through the silithid tunnels Brann found in the lore text of that one quest down there.
>>585997303Curious George would have been funnier
https://youtu.be/wo_4M942aMkRemember shamana.No STR stacking
>>585997610you just gotta keep looking bro it's there somewhere...surely...haha..
>>585997554
>>585997604frost trap doesn't do damage, and isn't ranged like blizzard, you doofus
>>585997604and the debuff bugs out half the time staying on even when you move out of it
>>585994528The MMORPG concept really does seem to be dying, at the same time that litRPG books fantasizing about living in MMOs with retarded design are on the rise.
>>585997845Because the idea of living in a fantasy world is kino but all executions of it in gaming fall short somewhere
>>585997303can you be my bf?
>>585996739The point is this information is being censored and suppressed. You literally CANNOT post about it on Reddit or the WoW forums. It's my duty as The Defender of the Double D's to bring it to the attention of as many people as possible.>>585996845>i haven't seen any discussion of this topic anywhereEXACTLY. A guy made an entire Youtube Channel to point out that this is happening:https://www.youtube.com/@PreserveAzeroth/videosThis is what they have done to his threads:https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1xcttxv/removed_by_moderator/Last week streamers were talking about this before Blizzard muzzled all of them. Now it's radio silence everywhere and it's being memory holed. I am sure if this gets enough attention Blizzard will go back and re-edit this news post:https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24303862/world-of-warcraft-forever-whats-next-panel-recapThis is where they promised Restored Classic Animations. You say they never promised to do all of them. Is there any other option? Either they bring them back or they don't. If they were only going to bring back a few why even announce it as a major feature? You're caping for Blizzard when they are clearly in the wrong here. They found a way to get out of re-doing these animations and now they will stop at nothing to push the Toxic Chud Narrative because Blizzard is so fucking lazy.
>>585997747rp friendly
>>585997736But the sims say harder auto attacks whites better
>>585996375
>tfw i already figured out how i will reach gold cap, cause wowhead has wrong data and i found some cool shit>cant talk about it or the method is gone
>>585998040>Is there any other option?yes, obviously, since they DID restore the walking animation and made a big deal out of it at blizzconremember that SD models were a last-minute addition so it was very likely something they were proud of to be able to put the classic walk animation on the HD models, back when they inexplicably thought no one wanted SD models>They found a way to get out of re-doing these animationswhy do you think they want to "get out of" it?i think they should just restore the SD models with all the SD animations and call it a day for the recordthe HD models are extremely hit-or-miss in general and look particularly bad when paired with the 2004-era gear texturesbut i think you're just trying to goon to the fem human dance animation
making a skelf is hard
>>585996375>blames everyone except the company making the gamei'd say meds, but there's no medicine for retardation.
>>585998707try making a female dwarf
>>585998836easy, there is only one good female dwaf face.
>>585998040Fem dwarf has the old tiddy bouncing animation.It's clearly some error on the human model because fem human animation wasn't even that significant in the first place.But humans are more popular and also it enables the screeching about the woke.
>>585997747>>585998063no one cares about your funny name.
wtf does frost mage even do in pvp now ice lances and frost blast is gone
>>585999261>frost blast is gonesauce
>>585999086but you still care about me, right bro? we've been through so much together
>>585999363dataminer said its removed from spellbook/trainer
>>585999428>>585999363its just data miners saying the sky is falling.p ay it no heed
Is there a way to make your soul shards go to reagent bag automatically ?
>>585998836but i already paid for this special edition which in hindsight was kinda retarded because it limits me now but i wanted to be an alliance druid and i didn't want to make another nelf again, i think i'm just going to go with a basic blue bitchthere's no point in me even changing the eye blindness options if i want to use the sd model for skelf when it comes out right? sd models don't get that stuff yeah?
>>585999261Frostbolt. Cone of Cold. Fire blast. Like usual.
>bunch of mage changes get datamined>no wowhead postWtf happened to this site? Just a year ago these fucks where desperate to find ANYTHING to post an article about. Now we have essentially WoW 2 about to come out and they've posted the absolute bare minimum about it since the Blizzcon reveal. Fucking AI SLOP SITES have been stealing clicks away from wowhead because of their lack of updates and information.
r8 my Horde elfI'm going to make him a shade darker every time I go from the Barrens to a major city/class trainer.When he finally leaves the Barrens he'll the second reddest shade of elf, and will have completed his transformation from simple sheltered not-Amish Zephras Isle elf to a hardened spittoon-spittin' MA(zshara and the Horde)GA backwoods redneck.
>>585998680We were promised HD models with classic animations, it was obviously implicitly understood that SD models would have their classic animations as well. You realize right now NEITHER has the classic animations outside of a small handful?Ironically Skyborne are the only race that have EVERY classic animation for both their SD and HD model because they don't use the retail blood elf skeleton, they use the TBC blood elf skeleton. >why do you think they want to "get out of" it?Because it's a fuck ton of work. Blizzard is lazy and doesn't want to dedicate dev time to it if they can get away with it. Now they have an excuse "Classic Animations are just for Toxic Gooner Chuds". >>585998964Almost everything is fucked but it's impossible to double check individually right now because the Beta is over. There's stuff I haven't even brought up like the classic facial animations that go with /dance are missing for the SD models. Nelf Female for example smile when they do /dance as of the Beta they just stare blankly at you. There are SO many animations besides Jiggle Physics that are now ALL getting cut because Blizzard can just say, yeah those classic animations don't represent who we are as a company any more. Everyone should be holding Blizzards feet to the fire on this. Instead they are censoring and memory holing it.
>>585999698That's because blizzard hid a lot of stuff that could be data mined. They can't be revealed until someone loots the item in game.
>>585999764A bit pale.
>>585999764he looks like he has sex with human males.
What is this supposed to be
>>585999848It's a seal.
>>585999848
>>585999848seal of light
>>585999848a jacket
>>585999848scared. sad uwu. puppy dog eyes. etc. >>585999814shit, true>>585999843he's an elf, of course he does.
Honestly the hype has kind of died at this point bros, not so sure im going to play anymore
>>585999780It's not just datamining it's EVERYTHING wowhead is behind on with Forever. We had a dozen ai sites with working talent calculators a week before wowhead got theirs working.
>>585999892>>585999906>>585999914That was easy. This is definitely some kinda wizard though
>>585999773>You realize right now NEITHER has the classic animations outside of a small handful?I haven't played WoW in years so I can't tell you which animations are from which. Are all the walking animations classic? Because those are the ones they showed off.>Because it's a fuck ton of work. Blizzard is lazy and doesn't want to dedicate dev time to it if they can get away with it. Then they wouldn't have done it in the first place. They already started on it.>Now they have an excuse "Classic Animations are just for Toxic Gooner Chuds". No one is saying this except you.You are delusional. Do not bother responding to this post.
>>585999979I legit thought this was a spiraling pillar of purpley magic (kind of like the twisting nether in outland, except much smaller) against a hilly backdrop for the last 20 years.I'm only seeing the night elf now.
>>585999979
>>585999979That's a succubus.
>>585984071It's a bellamy salute
>>585999773>Classic Animations are just for Toxic Gooner Chuds>yeah those classic animations don't represent who we are as a company any moreWhere have they ever said that?You mean to say "night elf smiling" is "not representing" but dwarf with her tits flailing about does?What an odd thing to obsess about.
>>586000106clearly this is a nelf lifting the back of her dress and pressing her ass to a pole
>>585986037Arcane looks fucking retarded bro lol
>>585984071what the fuck I thought it was a staff
>>586000204lmao holy shitthis anon is giga brained
>>585998040Yeah, theres a bunch of shady shit going on with Forever. The whole "streamers had to take the devs out back and convince them to put in SD models" followed up with the "I've been studying how we used to make models for 2 years" twitter post, all the RestedXP shilling despite being against Blizzard's own ToS, the entirety of the dueling tournament, this. Something is very off.
>>585999990>I haven't played WoW in years so I can't tell you which animations are from whichWhen they re-did the models during WoD they had to re-do every single animation. Some animations that they re-did were very close to the original. Some animations they re-did were very different from the originals. And some animations were actually cut entirely.The biggest cut one for example is the Racial Weapon Ready Animations. When you right click on a mob and are out of range, your character gets out your weapons and starts moving them around in preparation for battle. Before WoD every race and gender had their own unique way of readying their weapons in preparation for an attack.With WoD they decided it was too much work to re-rig all of them so instead, Weapon Ready Animations became Class Based. ALL Warriors regardless of Race would ready their weapons in the same way, etc.>Then they wouldn't have done it in the first place. They already started on it.They were actively working on it until they found an amazing opportunity to re-frame it as something only Toxic Gooner Chuds want, now it's being dropped and they get out of having to do a ton of work.>No one is saying this except you.Blizzard is tactfully saying it but banning all discussion regarding it on every platform that they control. No other complaint that has arisen during WoW Forevers development has been handled like this. Everything else we were allowed to complain and demand an answer from the devs. This is the ONLY ONE they are censoring and memory holing.
>>586000331>despite being against Blizzard's own ToSthere's a loophole, it's technically legalif it violated TOS blizzard would probably have sued them by now
>>586000331>followed up with the "I've been studying how we used to make models for 2 years" twitter postQRD?
>>586000234Paradoxically Arcane is the hardest mage spec to play, which means it's made for smarter than average individuals.
>>585986037It's still basically required for leveling and pvp though. Their CC as frost is just too good to not play frost for anything that isn't raiding and Ice Block is basically necessary for mages to survive PvP encounters.
>>586000080The elf's hair kinda resembled a hat and the eyebrow was his arm
>>585995113They are all decent. If you're playing pvp you can't go wrong with human/undead for rogue. Orc is also great. For shaman, again you can't go wrong with orc. Troll could be good for resto/ele. Tauren is more qol/utility.
>>586000392>banning all discussion regarding it on every platform that they control.there is no evidence of any discussion except from (You) as i currently believe the youtube account you linked earlier is yoursplease stop replying to my posts until you've taken your meds
>>586000410>if it violated TOS blizzard would probably have sued them by nowExcept they use RestedXP themselves. Its a big fucking pyramid scheme.
>>585979465Isn't this bad?You spend your combo points and energy to use this and it expects you to do damage within 4.5 seconds (3 globals) so 3 skills to increase those three skill's damage by 60%?with what energy and combo points? Premed? Vanish? Ambush?60% of an ambush crit is not even close to just using eviscerate
>new marketing video with Bill BaileyCouldn't they get David Attenborough or something?
>>586000418because you have to cast arcane blast once every 15 seconds?Mage looks like the most boring class in the game BY FAR right now. Literaly vending machine cucks after aoe farming was nerfed
>>586000478Actually I forgot. Gnome is also godly(for rogue). Nelf aint bad either. Dwarf is ehh, not bad but more of a niche pvp choice (mechanically speaking). Really there is not a great difference between them all though, class > race.
>>586000196>Where have they ever said that?They don't have to say it out loud to the world you fucking 85 IQ retard. All they have to do is ban all discussion regarding it. Which falls completely in line with EVERY OTHER instance where they HAVE said that before. Like removing emotes and censoring paintings etc. They are now used to the cycle of backlash that happens from those types of changes. So now the modus operandi is they simply ban and censor anyone who asks for that stuff back. Try to fucking keep up you retard.
>>586000392Oh that’s what that is? That sucks. I love seeing my undead swaying back and forth with his daggers
>*Frost nova sound*>That's too far away.>That ability isn't ready yet.>*Ice lance sound*>Need more rage.>I need to get closer.>*Cone of cold sound*>*Male human death sound*Coming to an airplane seat near you
>>586000543aoe farming is fine, it's nerfed somewhat but it will still be insanealso still a godly pvp class (as frost that is)
Is priest the most fun healer? I'm mainly torn between it and druid but am leaning priest.
>>586000501Read the fucking thread you moron I already linked a Reddit thread where they have banned it. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/you-removed-breast-physics-really-blizzard-bad-priorities-already/2391119Here's an Official WoW Forum thread where they've deleted the discussion.
>>586000580Is the removal of the crit damage percent racial for dwarf a nerf for rogues? I wanted those big ambush crits…
>>585997551should be gone and stay gone, what a dogshit event for the entire server to turn in shit and get used cum rags in return, making it a huge loss to even bother, all in the end to grant a select few (sometimes just one) a unique bug mount and open two raidsoh? not part of a raiding guild, like the majority of players? haha go suckstart a shotgun
>>586000750This is easy, its a rotting apple
>you do the spanking>I'll do the tankingHumanProt WarriorFemale
>>586000750That is just a worm inside a rotting apple
>>586000740have you considered asking for the missing animations without leading with "i want to jerk off to them?" it's really obvious these are all your threads and that you have a very one-track mindalternatively, have you considered taking your meds?
Looking for people to level together on WoW Forever!NA players, 18+ only. Looking to start from launch on November 4th and level together on Horde.Pick whatever race/class you want — no restrictions. The main idea is that whenever we’re playing, we’ll party up and quest together so we can level efficiently while actually having a chill time.We can also hang out and VC on Discord while we play. No hardcore requirements or anything, just looking for some people who want to start fresh together and stick with it.If you're interested, feel free to comment!
>>586000685>frost>still godlywhat used to be FOUR ice lance shatters on a player is now onea single frostbite + nova could have given you enough lances to skullfuck almost anyone and now it's a gimped/conditional fire blast
>>586000940>what used to beold frost mage didn't have ice lance and they still dominated just fine.
>>586000610The paintings are back.Explain the dwarf tits having their old bouncing animation.
>>586001005this is not era
>>586000940I'm not sure if you're trolling or just a vitriolic retard, but... frost was an amazing spec even in vanilla. Did you know there was no ice lance in vanilla? Nothing much has changed. 8s cd ice lance is absolutely fine. You can still ice lance every time you nova. All things considered frost looks stronger than vanilla although other classes will be somewhat better too, and gear will be different.
For years I misinterpreted the mouth on the ignite icon was a stretched upper lip so I always thought it was doing this face.
>le streamers are all playing yet ANOTHER browser-based vibecoded WoW gameflying a bit close to the sun aren't we?
>>586001117how does a vibrator make a game
>>586000882You've completely lost the plot, and have no real ability to keep up with this conversation. You have now come FULL CIRCLE to my original point that I lead with.The ONLY people who care about this enough to complain ARE GOONERS. This has given Blizzard an amazing opportunity to now frame it as something only Toxic Gooner Chuds care about. So now they are getting away with not adding any of those animations back in.No one else IS complaining. No guy made a video of all the missing Weapon Ready Animations. The only person with enough drive to make multiple videos comparing everything WAS A GOONER who did it over THE BREAST ANIMATIONS. Now we lose ALL classic animations.Do you understand? I don't know how I can break it down any simpler for you. NO ONE IS STANDING UP FOR CLASSIC ANIMATIONS EXCEPT GOONERS.
>>586001117Such is the nature of Favstian man. Endless fields of slop await us!
>>586001073obviously it's stronger than vanilla. everything is stronger than their vanilla counterparts except dps warrior and ele shamans (lol)the question is relative gainsI'm not playing a mage this time so idc enjoy your class I'm a druid I eat frost mages for breakfast
>>586000882His ramblings make me think he's some kind of obsessed tranny falseflagger larping as what these reddit troons think chuds think of themselves.Like a 4D schizo larp.
>>586000901Please provide even ONE(1) half-passable reason for why I would want to hang out in discord with a chud I met on a long-infested-by-jeets-and-bots Mongolian Animation-Fan Jamboree over putting on spotify or a comfort show and grinding shit out.
>>586000726In the same boat>hots can crit now>wild growth>faster gcd>15% spirit>swiftmend doesn't consume hots>50% mana regen while castingvs>10% crit on weakened soul targets>penance>crits make shields>human now has +10% spirit>prayer of mendingthink it's druid time for me tho
>>586001138>Now we lose ALL classic animations.we already have the walk animations>NO ONE IS STANDING UP FOR CLASSIC ANIMATIONS EXCEPT GOONERS.so why don't you? just make a thread about it that doesn't mention bouncing tits and it won't be deleted.
>>586001194Where, on the lvl 30 beta? You seem like a retarded tourist.
>>586001138Explain why fem dwarf has the old animation - objectively the most egregious one.
>>586001076lolI can see it
>>586001282druids have ALWAYS shat on frost mages, you're sounding like the tourist
>>586000478>>586000580Thanks, but this is going to make the faction decision even harder..I like the horde races more but the alliance areas beat horde for leveling and the only horde city I like is TB.
If I play shaman how do I run away from world pvp ganks? Wolf form seems pretty nice
>>586001024>The paintings are back.Cool, when are they going to add all of these back:>The Daisy Dukes on the Shimmering Flats Race Girl>The Harpy Model's Original Uncovered Breasts>The Succubus Model's Original Skimpier Lingerie>The over 60 /joke and /flirt lines that were removed>The original Item names for stuff like The Big Love Rocket>Body Type 1 & 2 Back to Male & Female>Explain the dwarf tits having their old bouncing animation.It was one of the animations they finished before realizing they could get away with not doing the rest.
How many people do you guys think they actually have working on Forever?
>>586001502Frost shock, earthbind, ghost wolf.
>>586001502Root totem, frost shock and the talent for fast wolf
>>586001502yes, earthbind, frost shock and instant ghost wolf
>>586001502You have an instant cast ghost wolf, earthbind totem, and frost shock. Shaman is one of the more reliable classes to bail out of bad situations.
>>586001384Don't use the present tense then. "I'm a druid I eat frost mages for breakfast." Druids always shat on mage 1v1, like you said. So what? Do you think wow pvp is a bunch of duels like in the streamer tournament?
>>586001502Run for the nearest water. Hope you remembered your fish oil.
>>586000843keep the pose but make her naked
>>586001138games should be for gooners. all the japanese gooner games i play with boob physics have more substance than this tranny slop game.
>>586001024The paintings are back because the texture is reused in different files. They removed the painting from karazhan but one of the inns in terokkar still has it.
>>586001558>>586001575>>586001576>>586001580LMAO when the answer is so obvious all of wowfg says it at the same time
>>586001531>It was one of the animations they finished before realizing they could get away with not doing the rest.
Worth it?https://x.com/Naowhxd/status/2115431046582018375
>>586001659And add a jeweled buttplug
>>586001606>Don't use the present tense thenI played druid on the beta and am rolling druid for launch.>So what?I brought up druid in the same sentence that I said whatever I don't care because regardless of how much you want to defend frost mage's "godliness" in forever pvp I'm still going to rape them so it's not my problem. enjoy your so called godhood(frost blast removed btw lmao)
>>586001765worth what its free
>>586001540they have thousands of part time cucks trying to wageslave up to a living wage level. even the people you see on the streams live in their mom's house. quantity over quality.
>>586001765Just use elvui or bartender like everyone else. I cant decide between dwarf or orc enha shaman!
>>586001706Time will tell which one of us is right. If the game launches next week and they have restored all of the classic animations to the SD models and they have backported all of the missing classic animations to the HD models, Blizzard will have fulfilled what they originally promised.If however, the game launches, and some animations like the Fem Dwarf Running Jiggle are back but TONS of others are missing and NEVER get added back in. I will be right.Now knowing Blizzard do you want to bet on your guess of what will happen or my guess? Considering they are banning anyone who brings up the missing animations.
>>586001968where's the beard
Until they add Ogres, Orc mage will have to suffice.
>>586001841Oh so you are talking about the beta? You keep switching it up, very confusing. You seem really butthurt about mages. Unfortunately they are still gonna be basically the same.
>>586002046I feel about orc mages the way a lot of other people feel about undead paladinsWHY are there orc mages?
>>586002046why not simply wait for ogres? That's what I'm doing, have my name reserved and everything.>>586002124the people who feel that way about UD paladin are retarded.You're not, though. Orc mages are called warlocks and skinsuit MicroBlizz is on a fool's errand to decouple the races in wow from their race history...."any race can be any class cause it's URE adventure :)" blue state nanny bullshit.
>>586002068I'm talking about forever wow, you know, this game. not classic erayou're in for a rude awakening thinking you're some pvp god as frost
>>586002025Around the anus as is tradition in her clan.
>>586002336Whatever you wanna tell yourself. However frost mage will still be one of the top pvp specs in the game and druid will be good at world pvp and flagcuck duty and that's all. And dueling, I guess, I don't really know or care what the best dueling specs are. It's inevitable. Nothing much changed.
Be real with me chief.Is Microsoft going to de-troon the retail/Forever team and return us to a based timeline?Or is Microsoft gonna jew us because selling bullshit to kids (and the single mothers funding them) will be more profitable for the next 3 years until the company goes the way of Bioware?
>>585997537that makes sense given that I am a holy femdwarf palathough I also am rolling a gnome priestes
There will be a point in time in Forever, maybe not on release, maybe not in the first year, but at some point something is gonna get tweaked the wrong way. And Warrior will, for a brief time, be insane in PvP
>>586002124why not?>>586002307you are the retard. 1) orc warlocks originated from guldan. it is fel magic. not arcane. 2) undead paladins are retarded. the wc3 one killed himself using a couple spells. even the origin story is stupid.
>>586002124undead paladins are kind of plausible with the lore since the original guy that founded the silver hand later became forsaken.
>>586002124A mage is a pretty specific thing in Warcraft that I don’t think any orc would have had the opportunity to become in classic times
>>586002462it was the most played (and paid) beta in the history of video games. if anything the troons are getting promoted. thank yourself and everyone in here, we all bought it>inb4 i didntokay see you next week when you drop $15 on it then
>>586002560what if the trolls taughted hims? :)
>>586002462if you want to play a war game, just play diablo. it's literally what every wow player wants except with shit boring gameplay.
>>586002012>Considering they are banning anyone who brings up the missing animations
>spent all beta locked into playing horde shaman>quest to 30 as an orc>finally name reserve comes out>I 180 and want to play human warlock now, a class ive never played really.
>>586002307I've been waiting for ogres for over a decade. If they add them, I'll reroll him. He is my reserve name for Aggron Stonebreaker because I couldn't come up with anything better.>>586002124Something something mage and warlock are interchangeble, something something Thrall banned fel magic (but not really).I could run him as warlock, I just didn't feel like managing a pet while leveling.
>forced to play alliance because no sunwalkers and I hate undeadfuck my stupid chungus life
>>586002462Look at what they did to the Jiggle Physics. They will add back in a mastectomy scars option before they make Night Elf Boobs Bouncy again.
It's bullshit that shamans have water walking and priests don't. You're telling me Jesus was an orc?
>>586002440frost has been getting nerf after nerf for weeks on end while arcane and fire keep getting buffedbut yeah bro, it's going to be competitive in pvp. because remember era? lolol
>>586002543they're not plausible at all. why the hell do you think all those paladins became death knights.
>>586002752he certainly wasn't a priest
>>586002307>>586002543eh I dont really like UD paladin. the light seems like the kind of thing that’d just cancel out any attempts to raise it or it’s take the soul of a person and just create a really weak mindless undead if an undead later became a paladin they’d just explode and die a paladin is more than a priest with weapons and armor. they don’t achieve their abilities through study. its total divine providence and boons and inherently requires a degree if fanaticism and extremism. elves are priests because they can study holy magic like it’s any other school but a paladin is something else. but if we’re sharing these classes now undead is your only real option for horde paladin
>>586002653Yes, actually scroll up and read and follow my replies. I've proven it twice now:>>585998040>>586000740I'm going to bed.
>>586002752no he was a dwarf
>>586002758lolwhat kind of druid are you making btw?
Jesus was a pythagorean druid who came to Ireland with Jospeh of Arimathea
they must have loosened name restrictions recently, i was finally able to use the name i was planning on
>>586002848>deleting a thread is "banning people"You are retarded
>>586002908The OP is banned, he can't make any more threads on the topic idiot.
>>586001659>>586001830Best I can do.https://files.catbox.moe/nwrxv0.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ns3gta.png
>>586002958>OP is bannedproof?
>>586002874flag carrier, pvp healer, raid healer, cat, bear, I don't care I'm a neet I'll have gear sets for everything
>>586002517No, you are. Orcs and Humans fundamentally represent Chaos and Order, respectively, axioms that fall in-line with a good deal of judeo-Christian/Western media, including the Warhammer franchise they are based off of.Orc mages are warlocks by definition. The representations of Chaos use Chaos magic. Adurrrr. They do not use their polar opposite (Order) magic. That is what humans use.Undead paladins, meanwhile, are not polar opposites with Light. Void (entropy/scarcity/evil) is the opposite of Light (growth/abundance/good), not Death.If you had spent at least some of the time you spent on this game reading about it instead of gooning to racebait orc porn that tries to convince you of a false narrative (orcs are heccin' niggerinos and the Alliance is whyte power) pushed by forces adversarial to the West, maybe you could have figured some of this out on your own.
retail minus
>>586002667undead paladins instead of tauren was a nublizzard level fuckup and set the tone for the rest of my thoughts on this shitty mess.
>>586003026By what definition
>>586002307>>586002543>>586002560THANK YOUI agree on both counts. undead paladins with faith strong enough to call on the light even in undeath is cool and plausible. My understanding was that Warlocks were all previously shamans who had all fallen to felm magic and demon subjucation>>586002517Arcane magic is something you need to learn as I understand it. That's why, even with the aracne origins, humans couldn't use magic until the elves taught it to them.>>586002662Something something mage and warlock are interchangeable,I disagree!>something something Thrall banned fel magic (but not really).athat poop from a butt and you know it.
>>586003110your mother's. You should call her sometime, she misses you.
>>586003026>Orc mages are warlocks by definitionThis is how I always interpreted it (Humans should also not be allowed to be warlocks btw).
>>586003021A predictably evasive response.
Reminder before I go to bed, I had to argue with multiple /wowfg/ anons tonight who were AGAINST Big Beautiful Bouncy Boobies in World of Warcraft Forever.This is who you are playing the game and sharing this general with:>Women>Homosexuals>Trannies>Ass Obsessed Brownoid ZoomersAlmost no one supported me because I am one of the only Straight White Men who posts in this general. No one else cares about Big Bouncy Boobies the way we do. Unfortunately we have become an extreme minority and now Blizzard can remove Jiggle Physics from the game with impunity. There's almost no one left to stand against them.
>>586003164I engaged with your post in good faith man. I just wanted you to say more on what you mean.
>>586002761Because Gul'dan put orc warlock souls inside of them. If an undead didn't have his soul replaced and still retained some parts of his past self, some might be able to return to the path they were on in life.
>>586003258I'm going to level feral? heal or tank in dungeons? what are you looking for you smug retard?
>>586002761They became death knights because LK gave them runeblades that gave them power and stole their souls in exchange.
>>586003260>still can't post proof that anyone was bannedwhatever bro
>>586003334Oh so only you are allowed to be a smug faggot?
>>586003257That makes no sense to me and I don’t understand how you can draw that conclusion nor why you felt it necessary to think of that conclusion. They’re two separate classes. Orcs shouldn’t be mages and humans shouldn’t be warlocks. What the hell does orc mages are warlocks even mean
>>586002752Priests can walk on air.
>>586003026>Warhammer franchiseno one gives a fuck>Orc mages are warlocks by definition.no they are not, retard>Undead paladins, meanwhile, are not polar opposites with Lightthey literally are. >>586003257humans are the race most attuned with demons in wow.
>>586003401so what's the plan boss, you want me to single out a spec so you can assert your superiority?were you hoping I was going to be balance or something?
>>586001968need thicc dwarf lady sex>>586002993sexo, thanksA+ attempt at the plug lmao
>>586003383Alex's straszas
>>586003472No it's just funny watching you sperg out.
>>586003260>porn stats as an actual argumentAnd you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.
>>586003270Well then stop being esl. "By what definition" isn't really a question to a longform forum post that was quite obviously posted by a schizophrenic who still thinks George Costanza is funny.>>586003257That's a good point. Alright I've changed my mind, orcs can be mages. Hedge mages like trolls, not much different from shaman, is my headcanon. I'm sure Blizz will give us orcs in Dalaran soon enough to ruin shit again.
>>586003270Bro bodied you, he killed you in cold blood.
>>586003540you're in the ring with me mister ass burger
>>586003026You're arguing metanarrative reasons based on WC1/2 and not whatever the game eventually morphed into while going on to bring in modern retail magical schools with void/light when originally the light of a paladin was just a metanarrative equivalent for willpower. If we're dipping into retail lore, we can just point back to the whole orc/ogre evolutionary chain with how Orcs originate from a titan construct if you go far enough.
>>586003467Nothing in the picture you've posted shows that Death is diametrically opposed to Light. Additionally, all your rebuttals amount to "no".You are braindead; I have won this debate simply by being the only competitor. Good day.
>>586002993jesus what is this? did you just copy and paste a screenshot of a level 1 human female warrior into novelai and spit out the first somewhat passable result? let a real sloppa show you how it's done...
>>586003150>Arcane magic is something you need to learn as I understand it.what's your actual argument? that orcs don't know how to communicate? btw an orc had sex with the guardian of tirisfal, the strongest living mage in azeroth.
>>586003559Im not ESL and it is an appropriate response because you hand waved your proof through saying by definition when you haven’t explicitly defined anything.
>>586003559I think you've fundamentally misunderstood my post. Warlock is just an Orc version of a mage, therefore they dont need mages because it would just be a warlock.
>>586003647Light was a maybe-real-maybe-not asspull Jesus allegory. Yes, a metaphor for willpower, but also implied to be Good as opposed to the Evil orcs. Retail didn't decouple this until like, Legion or BFA. >>586003647>>586003257Y'all made good points that individuals of a race can exist beyond the metanarrative commentary of that race's role in a story though. Sometimes I forget that due to being a mentally ill hermit.Six more days until I can stop posting this schizoubullshit and go back to posting cropped pictures of my main's genitals, btw.
>>586003881No, I understood that, and changed my opinion on-the-fly because I realized that I have absolutely zero negative opinion towards human warlocks, as mentioned in my previous post>>586003945
>>586003881Well no warlock isn’t an orc version of a mage. But also they shouldn’t be mages anyway.The argument that orc warlocks are mages [so orcs shouldn’t he able to play the mage class]. Is very roundabout and you should stick with saying upfront that orcs aren’t mages.
>>586003802my argument that humans are direct descendants of the titanforged and and took to magic rather quickly, but even with their lineage, could not harness magic until they were specifically taught arcane magic by the high elves of quel'thalas.meanwhile, the only two kinds of magic orcs as a whole know are shamanism and fel magic. one half-orc porking a powerful mage doesn't teach the whole race the secrets of arcane magic.
magetards, could this be an ebin new pvp spec? or arcane power version
>meanwhile, mage since wc2
>>586004105
>>586003296this is the type of non canon logic that ruined retail.>>586003370there's multiple different types of death knight origins. the argument is that famous dead former paladins turned into death knights by design. there is a reason for it. if you can't explain the reason then you have no argument.
I wanna play r.shaman but I also want to top the healing meters at least once so I might just bite the bullet and level holy
Healing is by far the most demanding and stressful role and to top it all off you get a ton of shit if you mess up.
>>586004105>>586004139anti-orc-magetards in absolute SHAMBLES
>>586004102hold on ive made an even danker spec
How hard is rogue to set up with all its poisons and shit?
>>586003467>humans are the race most attuned with demons in wow.Pretty sure thats Orcs, buddy.
>>586004318I like how this argument is so shit you could be making this post in support of in game orc mages or against in game orc mages and itd still apply because of the total semantic breakdown
>>586004318This just shows ogres have more class than orcs.
>spamming scorch as filler is now same dps as using fireball>and you get extra talents leftover to spend on extra range and pusback immunitybravo aggrend bravo
>>586004341extremely easy, you can apply them in stealth and each application is 1.5s
should my druid be a nelf or a sky elf?are ley lines common enough in lv60 zones that i can keep the regen buff up always without having to travel super far?
>>586004395Its actually eredar, fwiend
>>586004395nigger humans > nigger-coded orcs > normal white humans
>>586003723>Retail schizophreniaLOL. This is a classic general. See yourself out.
Whats the lowest skill ceiling class in pvp and pve? I'm a braindumb.
>>586004462>eredarA what?
>>586004461if sky elf is even remotely tempting to you, please pick it
>>586004542how come? just aesthetics? im troubled because i dont know how good the racial is in practice when farming overworld
ngl I hope I can make it to lvl 33 before I pass out on launch. I really want to get shimmering flats and the first stv quests done before they turn into pvp hell.
>>586004506>>586004541>the jews at microsoft are going to reverse the judaism published by the jews at activisionguess again
>>586004462eredar are not attuned with demons, they ARE demons
Do we even know anything about Light doctrine and dogma? Do they even stand for anything specific? Is there a bible? Do they even use the word God or Gods? What do they even believe
>>586004624>I play on pvp server but I do my best to avoid pvp!why are people like thisjust wait for hardcore release, level to 60 and then transfer to pvp
>>586004589>how come?it's easier to identify a retail player to be avoided at all costs when they're a sky elf
>>586004542>>586004589He wants you to pick skelf because skelf players are going to be turbo-griefed by chuds on launch.
I keep flip flopping between horde and alliance. I feel like i might actually lean alliance. Warlock always was a class i appreciated from afar and human locks can be fun to rp on the rppvp realm
>>586004517skill ceiling in pvp is kind of hard to answer, for pve it has to be resto druid just spamming rejuvs on everyonesomething easy in both pvp and pve, healer or ranged dps, I want to say shadow priest
>>586004395>>586004462orcs and draenei have to physically drink demon blood to get fel magic. also when they try to disobey demons they are blown up. humans are just born evil and can get possessed by demons and do whatever they want without consequence.
>>586004653and who is more attuned with something than something that is that thing? dummy.
>>586004731I will play skelf rogue to assassinate people when they're low hp and taunt them with emotes
>>586004717i've never played retail but coming from vanilla private servers wow forever just seems like retail lite anywayand sd night elf models are all kinds of broken on top of that
>>586004541archimonde from wc3 bro....
what are the chances that I just log-in right at 3PM on launch and everything is stableits almost 2027, surely they can launch a game successfully
>>586004814>one dude vs an entire race
>>586004887>3pmanon, i...im so sorry you live in that mad max wasteland you call a timezone
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxTWMv5h-JE
>>586002993>>586001830>>586001659>>586000843the slopper is inhttps://files.catbox.moe/co803h.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/iwx5p9.png
>>586004461>>586004589Skelf racials are better than Nelf ones, unless you die a lot. And you're not bad at the game, are you anon?
>>586004862Who is a demon, silly.
>>586004674They are zealots to the extreme, everything should be the light, everything should follow the light, all things belong to the light.everything should be light, and everything else should be erased
>>586004968it's a skelf player, feel no sorrow
>>586004985slowbro...
>>586004985>Lord Eron
>>586005005i never die in pve and im okay at pvp, good enough to kill casuals but i lose to duelistsnelf seems really good for pvp but maybe it isnt rly
every patch is nerfing mage, remove 6% damage frost talent, remove 5/5 10% crit talent down to 6% etc
>>586004989
>>586004674the light falls apart if you look at it like a religion and is only passing because 90% of the player base will just project Christianity onto it
>>586005121>nelf seems really good for pvp but maybe it isnt rlywhat would make you think this?
>>58600516310% crit on demand seems nice for burst, and i think meld can cancel casts?
i'm in
>>586005153>lower res>clothedwhy would you do this?
>>58600522510% crit is maybe applicable as a rogue when you get an opener but otherwise you won't have enough uptime in a pvp fight to benefit, too much movement, GCDs on items or trinkets, CC, interrupts, etc.>meld can cancel castskeyword CANCEL not silence or interrupt. a good player will take the combat reset and eat/drink to full while you sit there waiting to die even harder when you move
warcraft lore simply does not matter and the frat bro developers have always written it purely on vibes and what they need for a new rts unit
>>586005231I'm losing track of the vibeslops, yesterday I was playing a wow fighting game (in browser ofc) and now there's another thing?
>>586005353ok fair, that makes sense.. thank you for your counsel nonny
>>586005231anon what is this
>>586005370blizzard is unironically cooked. their lawyers can't keep up with new games popping up daily using their IP. none of them will ever be as good as WoW but some of them might scratch enough of the WoW itch to satisfy a player's interest without them needing to log into the real game and spend time and money on it.
>>586005370Yeah it's arenashttps://arenaofchampions.live/
so official patch notes today?
>>586005434Doesn't really hurt them. If anything builds up more hype for Forever. Of course with the way they are they're possibly seething.
>>586005231Now we're slopping in the right direction
>>586005434No one can keep up with this shit lmao, that's the entire reason it's gotten so out of control. It's moving too fast to even think of wrangling for anyone in a modern technological society that was already outpacing any kind of regulation. You would need an entirely new system at this point to get stuff under control, and that's not happening any time soon with the people in charge.
>>586005426>>586005437
if i was just sticking with one character would it take long to max two professions just for achievements before swapping over to another two professions that i actually want to keep?
>>586005656Yeah, have games streamed without anything being available to the end user files-wise, only the picture.
>>586004989That's literally just my character though...
>>586005741>now he copypasta'ed my slop into his novelai and got something slightly more presentablegood job nonny, when you're ready to graduate to sdforge and make something that actually looks good lmk
>>586005701not really. gathering professions are quick and so is engi, alch
>>586004461night elf has the best racials for every clas that can be onepeople are sleeping heavily on shadowmeld, its the most powerful racial in the game
>>586005701depends which ones, some are a bitch to level and require a lot of mats
>>586005847whats so good about it
>>586005535>buffed paladins, mages, warriors, hunters>nerfed shaman, druids, priest, warlock>rogue
Pick my main for me
>>586005884It's great for when im getting my boypussy gaped, I can stealth upon reviving without having to play a rogue or druid.
>>586005817You obviously haven't been to /tg/ in the past decade.
>>586003742>>586004989>let a real slopper show you how it's done>posts generic slopdecent enough, but don't get a big head>>586005252needs skintight bodysuit if she's gonna have one at all
>>585997303will be named "Ex" in raid frames
>>586005884in pve, it works exactly like fade, for classes without threat dump this is a game saver, no longer is over aggro a death sentencein pvp, its stealth, it makes your opponent drop target, fail spell casteven for classes that have stealth it works as a CD resetalways being able to drink, eat and stealthopponent need to aoe you out or run right next to you to stop youpeople forget how often you drop combat while pvping, making the CD only 10s, that is insanely strong
>>586005825>>586005859idk i was thinking of just going skinning and leatherworking while i level and quest and stuff then finish maxing those and later i can just go around leveling herbalism alongside alchemy because that alchemy camp buff thing seems nice for my druid i guess? i don't even really get what the points are for so idk if it's even worth it or if i should just go herbalism and alchemy from the start and just not bother changing
>>586005437lol is this mining tokens off of you?
>>586006079skinning lw is great for leveling as druid yeah, youll get to make your own gear on the way to max
>>586005919Warlockwhy is there no realm name above your character list? is it PVE?
>>586006079skinning won't give you legacy points, it's only crafting profs but sure you can level lw fast that way
Has blizzard addressed engineering outperforming every other profession?I don't want to be forced into the same professions on every class if I want to pvpVanilla was bad enough with grenades and reflectors
>>586006070In PvE it doesn't drop aggro so doesn't seem that useful. They won't just stop attacking me and walk away
>>586006186it's unknown what new shit other profs at 60unlikely they will be better than engi in pvp thoughim happy to do engi + whatever though
>>586006139I also don't have a realm name and it's PvE yeah. When I switch realms and then switch back there is sometimes normal writtrn above it, so it seems bugged
>>586006186How could they possibly add that much benefit to other professions? Not possible.
>>586006195I meant in group content, when you are dpsing or healing and over aggro, without it you might die unless the tank saves you
>>586006186Anybody can now use eng items as items with charges.Eng is like alch now.
>>586006017>that hilt going right though the palm of her handOUCH
>>586006105yeah seemed nice, like since i don't plan on making an alt i figure i have the time to do two sets at least, probably not more because i'm lazy though maybe i could set an autism goal to just max all the professions on one character>>586006141>it's only crafting profsoh okay ty, the skinning would help me save money at least, so is it even worth getting the points from leatherworking? i guess i'll stop being a retard and read about what the points actually do i only learned about them here
>>586006023>generic slopokay post yours>>586006017>another shitty gengood stuff anon, keep posting
>>586004335Based triple dipper
>>586006186we dont know the end game recipes for any profession so its safest to skip them until you are 60
>>586006186they should split engi into gnomish and goblin engineering with different focuses but both providing different kinds of pvp utility methinks
>>586006186If they really wanted to address anything they'd remove grenades and just make engi the funny trinket profession. Instead they made even more grenades and now everyone can use them.
>>586005151Good.
>>586006348brainlet takethere's tremendous value you can now get out of leveling the crafting profession relevant to your class
>>586006369>goblin can stun with grenades and remove roots with gadgets>gnome can root with nets and remove stuns with gadgetskino
>>586006424tremendous negative value when you blow 50g on a bunch of leveling bops like every cattle and can't afford a mount
Think Alchemy / LW might be viable to level without their gathering proffs early? Alchemy I can see maybe breaking even and I can see there being more herbalists than alchemists since mining+herb seems like the go to double gathering set up, and the change to skinning seems like it might result in more skins than before winding up on the AH, but I still see most skinners having LW instead of going for profit.
>>586006424sure if you are a dogshit player who needs full blue gear to do questsaverage joes get by with dungeon lootgood players hit lvl60 in the first week with quest rewards and random drops
>>586006483predictable response
>>586006548yes of course it's predictablebecause anyone with a brain knows it
>>586006483you just rmt the gold, and if you get banned just charge back and enjoy your time in other games.
>>586006505>since mining+herb seems like the go to double gathering set upThe drawback of this is you can only track one at a time, so it's best to take skinning + either Herb/Mining so you can keep your tracking up, and skin your kills.
>>586006258That's true. I had a bit of a misconception in my mind, because I'll go warrior on my nelf I didn't see why it would be useful. Didn't think of such situations
>>586006450>gnome is breedable>goblin is erratic and breedablepog
I just want everyone in this thread to know that I have sekrit gamer strats that I'll be abusing to get an epic mount in the first month.t. midwit that will be using the same strats anyone with a brain has known about for at least 5 years
>>586006369That's literally been a thing since the 'niller.Gobbos are about destruction while gnomes are about alteration.
>>586006682share your secrets with me anon i wanna be rich too i promise i wont abuse it
>>586006650>doesn't know where nodes arelol>unable to look for nodes with his eyesrofl>unable to make a simple castsequence macro to switch between tracking while running placesLMAO
>>586006682I'm gonna go fishing.
>>586006589that's right anon, don't even look at the crafting professions until you're 60 :^)there's nothing of value for you, please stay away!
>>586006682>for at least 5 yearsthose strats were enough to make me 10k on classic launch for 1 month workyou are the super retard
>>586006682>t. midwit that will be using the same strats anyone with a brain has known about for at least 5 yearsSo buy low, sell high on the AH, loot everything & vendor what can't sell on AH, set up alts to camp limited quality recipe vendors to sell?
>>586006682I also want everyone to know that I already have an epic mount ready because I knew how to abuse the system even before the game came out!t. boughtered the big boi pack
>>586006715every day you buy up all the cheap stuff and then put stuff up at higher prices. people will buy it because they rmt'd the gold anyway and their time is more valuable than gold. keep doing this until you're emptying out the ah to the point where you own everything.
>>586006852>I also want everyone to know that I already have a mount ready because I knew how to abuse the system even before the game came out!I want everyone to know this as wellt. rolling tauren
i think.. i just want.... to be a fire mage!!! yes!!!!!!
i think.. i just want.... to be a girl!!! yes!!!!!!
>>586006916Enjoy spamming Scorch against Fire resistant enemies until AQ.
>>586006990i mean for pvp mostlyyes, i know....but 41 yard range fire blasts that stack your hot streak thing sounds like so much fun
>>586007047>for pvp mostlythis nigga is RETARDED
>>586006990the first two raids are against humanoids and nature creatures in Hyjal, smart man.
>>586007074i told you, that i am awarehowever..........im going to do it
>>586007047>fire for pvpbruh
>>586007119if i see you in game im telling the lads to spam report you out of our bg
>>586006990Lmao look at this uninformed retard.They already confirmed in the weekly podcast that there will be no resistant enemies in raids so no spec is left out and they are remaking all old raids.
>>586007168sure u are fag loltry not to get any of the lads cum in ur hair or eyeballs
>ony is the only 40m raidacceptable>any other 40m raids existcompletely unacceptable, disgusting, shit game designed for the lowest common denominators while guild leadership is left to flounder every week because getting 40 grown adults to sit down at their pc for multiple hours, multiple times a week is nigh impossible unless you're in an unemployed guild. there will always be no shows. you will always start raid 30-60 minutes late because you had to fill healers or some shit. fucking retarded.
>masturbate for 2 hours>take a nap>masturbate>forever still isn't out
>>586007095>>586007179>Barrow Deeps is reskinned Molten Core with resistances and immunities intact>Hyjal Summit is literally the TBC raid but all mobs will now have Fire immunity/resistance for some reasonCalling it.
>>586007279why is ony acceptable but not for example instanced azuregos or kazzak?
>>586006990>>586007179it's more enjoy having to cast scorch 5 times on every mob before you can start using fireballI don't know why that talent is in the state it's in
which rule sets do all the chud streamer play?
>>586004814Wasnt a demon, also said dude was literally one of the most powerful mages ever and his mom was possessed while pregnant so he was literally born spiritually fused with the mad titan. Not even remotely the same
>>586007382because ony can be 5 manned>world bossesthose aren't designed raids you stupid nigger
>>586007418horde pvp
make a new thread faggot I want to get my goth warlock gnome ai slop shitpost on there before going to bed
Did they change leveling in a group at all? My friends want to level as a group of 3 and I want to know if this is putting us at a disadvantage while leveling?
anyone else going to play on chudmongold's na pve server?i can't wait to point and pog at my favorite balding man
>>586007557no changes
>>586007580no sir but perhaps i will see you in a battleground (from the horde side)
>>586007470asmon is playing horde?doubt it
>>585984071There's some abilities that are just not recognizable as anything when you see the small icon in game, so I never really associated the art with anythingThis was one of those, lesser heal was always just a purple stick to me. Looking closer, what the fuck were they going for -- is that a purple sleeved arm casting purple magic? Is that purple blood on his hand?
>>586007515>118 images>dead of nightjust post it you attention whoring faggot. what, are you that desperate for pats on the back over something you didn't even make?
>>586007662yes.
>>586007557More quests and probably faster spawns will somewhat favour running around in a group
>>586007625>humiliated by anons in pvp right on the bald man's streami'd shit myself and die
>>586007557what no, leveling as a group is always better
>>586007662Nah I understand him. I'll also do this when I have a funny post or image. It would be wasteful to post it near thread end>>586007708Now do it again next thread to spite him
>>586007645asmon is only one chud streamer out of thousands
>>585986009Racials only matter if you're a Priest I think, because they actually get unique abilities depending on race which can make a big difference in gameplay.Otherwise, who gives a shit, the difference is comically small
>>586007721>asmongoy larping alreadyi guess it's good to practice
>>586007731How is leveling in a group better? You're trivializing content and actively hurting your fun with it
>>586007797>a funny post or imagenotably NOT pedo ai slop>Now do it again next thread to spite himhow much of a newfag are you? that's not the slop that image gets posted 10 times a day>>586007708kill yourself with expedient haste
>>586007821>comically smallbut ENOUGH about GNOMES>>586007708SEX
>>586007810none of the others are playing wow though
>>586007731>loot an item with a 5 min respawn timer
>>586007870Uh oh melty
>>586007864you're playing with friends and having fun?
>>586007931me when im objectively wrong and have zero argument:
Need custom layer system where I can lay without people running around
>>586007906just skip that questit's only better if you're not retarded
>>586007834>larpingi've been watching him since like idk wod? bwo
>>586007870if I was gonna I woulda years ago, sorry. I'm here until my heart gives out much sooner than I would like it to.
>>586007969Me when I melty
>>586007982>it was the first quest in a 8 part chain quest leading to a dungeon with rare rewards that last for the next 20 levels
>>586007580I would but I'm euro and no, I'm not playing with 100+ ping
>>586007994hopefully it's tonight
>>586007974need custom fully animated sex scene system so my skelf can properly be free use for any nearby tauren totem pole
>>586007991>catposter>retardedThe pattern... yes.....>>586008064>things that never happenif that actually was the case, then sure wait a few minutes to do the stupid ass quest
do we know what blue elf moonkin form looks like?
Did they revert the racial changes?
>>586007515then just bake it as the op retard
Has someone compiled a "best race for every single class" list yet?I only know my class. It occurs to me that I'll probably make a lot of alts (legacy system stuff) and I have no idea what to do with them... also coming up with 8 more names is daunting, fuckers probably took everything good already
>7 more sleepiesughhhhhhhhhhhh
>>586008108>The pattern... yes.....nice one but that makes you the last person on earth to realize i'm retarded, stupid
>>586008231>6 more sleepies>2 more poopies>1 more fappyuntil forever comes out
>>586008159I'm curious what inspires you to post something like this. Not only has blizzard given zero indication that racial changes would be reverted, but it's also so easy to literally just see for yourself. But no, let's go to the mongolian basket weaving forum and take the time to ask someone else and wait for an answer. On a question that's inherently retarded, and could easily be solved on your own by simply visiting wowhead. You are everything that is wrong with modern society. Get cancer.
>>586008231It's 8 more sleepiest!
>>586008258>1 more fappyI fap 4 times a day
>>586004985never even heard of this guy must be an EU to think this is a big deal
fr why cant they just remove welfare epics, the vault, mythic+ and gainer/spender classes from retail? i'd play that shit in a heartbeat
>>586008294>he stops fapping
>>586008258>2 more poopieseat more bread or rice bwo..>>586008109it's probably blue, maybe
>>586008258>>586008294How do we define a fap? Is it only a fap if you cum? I'll mostly only do it once a day but it's a long sesh and most often not cumming
>>586007419how did aegwynn get possessed? don't dig a deeper hole for yourself.
>>586008358yeah for me it's 15+ more poopies
>slopper begging for new bake way too early>accordingly gets called a retarded faggot>suddenly there's a catposter shitting up the thread and filling image slotsnooticing
hot take but every class should have their own gimmick profession like mages with comprehend or rogues with lockpicking
>>586008436ok, list them
not really a hot take imo, have any ideas for other classes?
new>>586008464>>586008464>>586008464
>>586008287>communicating on an image board is bad guys!found the faggot.
>>586008386STOP NOTICING ME REEEEEEEEEEE
>>58600838415+damn maybe you should eat less bread and more other stuff bwo
>>586008436okay! let's start with warrior. let's see, what do warriors do that's interesting? hmm...they're really strong...zero magic capabilities...no thematic "job" exists for them...scrapped, bad idea
>>586008329>gainer/spender classes from retail?Isn't that almost all of them?
if you don't have a cool name you're not invited to the group. You can go do dungeons with glorpshit mcgee, I'm sure he'll be happy to have you.
>>586008483at least im not illiterate and useless
>>586008386>>suddenly there's a catposter shitting up the thread and filling image slotswtf?? is this true?
>>586008329what's left? idk what the vault is but what do you do in retail other than M+? insanely gay easy leveling? retardedly broken pvp? housing daily quests?
>>586008369Didn't she let it happen because she thought her pussy could contain Sargeras?
>>586008526No one cares about browns, just give them "armwrestling" skill that will let them roll their str+rng against other browns to measure their e-peen which is apparently all they do anyway.
>>586008386I've been noticing things myself and more than 99% of catposters are legitimately retarded in a cringe and unfunny way. It's uncanny.>>586008704Classic foid thinking.
>>586008386oh no not our heckin image slots
>>586008763Tbf it worked, afaik her body was a prison he couldn't escape or control. But then she got knocked up
>>585984448WC is a core component of horde vanilla WoW leveling and the Warren's experience. It's also pretty cool and has good loot for the level and lots of quests for huge XP.You are wrong.
>>585984545I'm reporting every meme name and getting you all renamed.
>>585984552I am a gamer dad with 4 young kids and a huge house and yard to take care of and obviously a full time job.
>>586003006prob banned for posting an image with the N word
