>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesName Reservations open now for skyborne pack purchasers.The journey begins on November 4>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkkpbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/TNTkQTpdVD<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QEFCzxf>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/mVPNFmXv5<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | Discordlessprevious>>586161535
Retail won btw
>>586177961rate my gameplan to get rich quick:>get 9 characters to level 35>level alchemy on all of them>start selling transmute cooldowns starting week 2wouldnt that be better than just rushing to 60
Why did blizzard make taurens the summon bitch race?
>>586177585back when blizz was still stealing from valve..
>>586177653Because they want people on their server who don't necessarily want to play PvP as they are easy prey for them to group up against
>>586178059Yes it finally got to die like it always wanted
>>586177961>no PvP Alliance guildsuh-oh.
do I download octowow for these few days
>>586178059the most raped game award
femsaken
>>586178059Retail won because we will stoically take your insults while also welcoming you in when your game EoS.
Does anybody have the early 2019 clips of a anon poster here that played warlock in pvp? He made a video about grimoire imp specifically? It was really entertaining but I can't seem to find itAny help anons???
>>586178196chuds are going pve, pvp is too hard for them
I will roll S. Priest so I can be the sole straight man in the healslut group and get all of the AGP huzz.
>>586178081What transmute? Mithril to Truesilver?
Are there going to be housing in this game? Why is alot of the leaked cash shop shit furniture?
>>586178252>front flips onto your faceYour response?
>>586178059just watch a Marvel movie at that point bro..
>>586178329Hopefully. That would be so kino.
TICKTOCKRETOILETS
plug and cage! plap plap plap for B G C
Threadly shill postJoin <FUN HAVERS> for launchNA PVE>no cliques>only rule is you must have fun>will raid with whatever we got, no sweaty raid comps>ms>os loot>ill be running a morning weekend raid or early afternoon weekday raid / more raid times with enough people>socials always welcomehttps://discord.gg/XBd4VWnquc
>>586177878Every true WarCraft fan was perfectly fine playing Akama in WarCraft 3, you chink pop faggot insectoid
>>586178208I wouldn't. I would play SPP or Grimfall if I really had to scratch the itch before launch.
>they nerfed the engineering goblin glider cooldownlol they desperately trying to make skelf racial look good.
>>586178059THE RAPED
>>586178131Why does he have a dick growing out of his chest?
>Female>Night Elf>Prot WarriorYep, it's gaming time.
>>586178276no arcanite bars
>>586178386good girl :3
>>586178416>NA>PvEI cannot imagine anything gayer. even RPPvE is less gay, and they are all trannys larping
>>586178452Reminder that this line of thought got Runescape Reignited or whatever cancelled.
>>586178452He's right tho. If I played retail for years there's no way I'd play forever without everything I unlocked.
>restedxp>buying gold>starting political arguments in general chat>being racist in guild chat and accusing people of being brown>being toxic to random group members and kicking them from the group at the slightest mistake >manipulating the AH like a kike and screwing over my own community >spending my dkp on pvp gear and contributing very little to raids>if I meet a verifiable foid tell her I can get her raid gear for nudesYep it's time to game
Can't wait to chase pink items for the pink bunny raid with my bros at endgame!
>>586178081how do you plan on getting enough gold to get to 300 exactly
>>586178452What is wrong with these peoples brains
>>586178416>PvEOh i'm sorry anon, I am not a homosexual, I cannot partake.
Get on your knees and beg for this girthy black cock
r8 or h8 my plans out of 8, m8
>>586178603>>spending my dkp>not doing gdkpsshiggy diggy
Is there going to be a big data mine drop before launch? Is the version we have installed now still the 30-cap beta build?
>>586178564I don't play runescape but vaguely heard about this. Wasn't it just a fresh server and people got pissed for some reason?
female human magepvpsolo
>>586178569Played since vanilla beta, i'm bummed i wont have my mount collection for the exclusive stuff like the blizzcon mounts and pets, but I don't care enough to not play forever over it unless they add them back in later to the cash shop or something.
Our guy The Old Knight is completely destroying all these doomers while working as a full time school teacher and father. he’s the best dad gamer because he has never once brought it up. he’s a saint and a soldier
>>586178748Switch shaman to orc and warlock to undead.
>>586178519It's -probably- good if you plan on advertising that you're selling the cooldowns to the very, very small pool of players that will have need of them by week 2, but I question whether those same players wouldn't just have their own sources of the cooldowns.If you still have decent fun getting those characters to 35+275Alch (and spending enough base gold to get them to that 275 from the auction house, presumedly), then it'd probably return investments if you got enough buyers. It does seem like a gamble, though.
>>586178081thats nice but i shant be inviting you to my raid cause you missed the first 4 lockouts
>>586178827how's life, avatroon?
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/over-8-million-characters-were-created-in-the-wow-forever-beta-383669Mass retoilet suicides on wednesday
>>586178812They changed it so stuff cannot be datamined until it has dropped ingame for someone first. So we are still getting datamines on stuff like minor talent changes but won't be able to view like lvl 60 gear until someone finds that stuff on live first.
this video is very important for a lot of "people" in herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLyzNhR-k0
>>586178845literally who?
>>586178569>>586178564You are retarded. The equivalent would be retail having "fresh" servers that start from level 1. Forever is intended to service vanilla/classic players and people who quit long ago. Any retail stragglers are just a bonus. They don't give a single shit what currently subscribed Midnight players think about Forever. I'm 100% unironic here.
Guys what do you think of my future guild?https://wowtbc.gg/warcraftforever/raid-comp/?c=270226262617162626260808242401132121101500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000&n=!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chat, I'm playing a Clothie class and the plan was originally to take Tailoring + Enchanting on that character.Would I be missing out on anything in particular if I instead had those skills on a bank alt so I can take Herb + Skinning?Anything obvious I'm missing as to why that would be less than ideal?
>>586179079whether they give a shit depends on the numbersjust being 100% genuine and ironical, to be perfectly desu lil gub
>>586178456it's his extra rubbing arm
>>586179079this, retail is already subbed
It's gonna be epic bros. Forever truly is WoW 2.
>>586179148Dude, don't overthink it. Just have fun!
>>586178748gr8/8
>>586178368From what I've seen most retail players are happy about Forever because it gives them an excuse to abandon that shit game.
>>586179079Yeah I'm a returning player so I have no problem with it exactly. If I was a retail player though I can't see myself playing this.It's like having to switch to a different platform than Steam without all of your achievements and tracked playtime
>>586178748you are gonna get buttfucked as ally pvp so be warned
>>586179148are you planning to 1-char in forever? herb-skinning is perfect for gathering alt like hunter or druid
>>586178964it wont have to pay off on the first cooldown, but over several ones>>586178626magic, i am good at auction house>>586178970i dont care about raids with enough gold you can get good enough gear
>he still hasn't bought a white monster crate for launchdon't get left behind faggots
>>586179040largest beta ever. and you had to pay to get in. jinkies
>>586179253Would have liked to have seen the PvE kills more
There is absolutely no downside to rolling RPPvP now unless you wanted to name your toon Oprah Windfury or something>Faggrend has said they will step in if the server pop fails and merge the servers>Names are region wide, so if/when you get merged to PvP you keep all your namesSo roll RPPvP because it filters out low IQ retards who are scared of "RP", even though RP is never forced on you and most of the time occurs in specifically organised events. People that play vs bots only need not respond.
>>586179390what does white monster taste like?
>>586179390>don't get left behindtoo late
>>586179040>only 8 million characters>when wow used to brag about having tens of millions of subscribers.Foreversissies... we lost! Time to rip off our cock cages and return to Retail!
>>586179148starting double gather is a good ideaget crafting later if it looks good, or do it on an altno reason to decide now, it depends what items they add and how you feel about it
>>586179469acid
>>586179390I still have like 50 in my garage but these drinks with sugar substitutes always make my head feel dizzy. Either with sugar or just plain ol water for me.
>>586179040>>58617944513 characters created / 91st percentile and i honestly don't even remember making more than 3
>>586179469Kinda like fruit punch heavier on stuff like pineapple, I pretty ghost these days because they have actual flavors like welch's grape juice.
>>586179390the drink of choice for the methican american
>>586179469chemical flavored cough syrup.
>>586179189The numbers will indicate a massive population slant towards vanilla-type players. Retail players will not play it in large numbers (there's not even that many of them in the first place) and most of them will quit within a month. Retail players are not a threat towards the design goals of this game.
>>586179390I'm going to be running off of zyns. I don't want to be pissing all the time
>>586178554>>586178724Oh im gay alrightGay for FUN
>>586179385okay so 9 alts is 320 hours. youd maybe get 10 gold a cd so 90 gold a day. i mean if you enjoy levelling and want easy gold by all means could also get leatherworking or tailoring for their daily cds as well and get the proffesion talent that gives essences every day could get upwards of 300 gold a day
>>586179253>deadliest dungeon>hall of thanesfuuuuuuck I'm going have to deal with scrubs asspulling and wiping on the fucking Alliance RFC won't I?
>blizzard themselves take a shot at PirateSoftwareNOOOO>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/62R_4mST0BUhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/62R_4mST0BU>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/62R_4mST0BUhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/62R_4mST0BUHIS DAD USED TO WORK AT BLIZZARDHE USED TO WORK AT BLIZZARDTHEY CAN'T JUST DO THATHE'S THE BEST MOST INTELLIGENT PERSON TO HAVE EVER LIVED!
So how is wowfg going to distribute their raid loot?
I'm gonna order some stuff from haribo for launch
>>586178059at ACKing
>>586179065oh shit that's cool actually
>>586179469tastes like white power mixed with asian girl sweat
>>586179390i'm in soon-to-be-annexed-by-russia eu shithole, what color will bring me most joy and satisfaction?
>>586179705that I more or less agree withalthough lazy pasting of retail shit may still be a problem, but wcyd it is what it is
>>586179342Just hang with the streamer herd and little blud will be safe
>>586179802coffee = brown
>>586179390I'm getting a case of coors edge for the saturday after launchgonna be going hard
>>586179878No shit retard
>>586179760lmao
>>586179385I'll have my fingers crossed that you get your name out there early and get lots of repeat customers, then, anon.
>>586179743those damn exploding dwarves
>>586179760Isnt he the first generation of the second generation of blizzard employees?
>>586178416What time zone in NA? Hoping you guys are all 30+ish like me, don't mind zoomers, but I enjoy my fellow grandpas.
>>586179760holy shit
>>586179760THORBROS, NOT LIKE THIS
no one cares about your parasocial garbage, kill yourself
>>586179802>eumight want to start worrying about shitskins rather than russians lol.
>>586179878i already drink 4 cups a day, i'd like variety, but not of a cough syrup type, every other energy drink i had tastes like that
For me it's yerba mate not some nigger brained chemical stew
>>586179760lul
>>586179760+rep for blizzard i am more hopeful now
>>586179390>$42 for retard slopnigga just drink coffee FUCK
>>586179760>when the situation gets diretop of the kek to you laddies
>>586179771>implying I'll raid
>>586179657>8x24 can cratesanon that is over 15lbs of sugar
Dogfart collab for Forever
>>586179760Lmao thats fucking crazy
>>586179771HR/SR probably unless I somehow find myself in a loot council guild.
>>586179760Thor status?
>>586179743It's just the dynamite tossers, the rest of the dungeon is a joke.
>>586179079Forever is blatantly being set up to be an alternate timeline retail
>>586180023it's too cold and poor here for them, i wouldn't worry, besides locals just bash their heads in, gypsies won't even bother coming anymore too
give me some nigger baby warrior names
>>586180161I don't think he will drink that in one go.
>>586180161I can handle it, weakling
Whitney Gunns Latina Abuse video. Thank me later.
>*roots you*>*casts moonfire and insect swarm*>*casts travel form and runs to a safe distance*>*roots you when you come near enough to do anything or chases you down with dash if you start trying to disengage*your response?
>>586179760chefs kiss
>>586180161>sugarFUCKING GROSS! Not on my watch, I only put organic high fructose corn syrup in my body thank you.
>>586180161i always just buy in bulk when there are offers, i drink up to 4 a day
>>586180113You have to buy them when they're on discount. Here I get them sometimes for like 8€ for 10 cans. I bought like 200 of them last time
>>586180345>Sniper shots you from 51 yards for half your health
>>586180313i think ill thank you now anon THANKS
why are taurens the designated summoning race now?
>>586180303Damn, Guzu lookin' wild
>>586180345Call you a nigger before killing you because I'm a hunter
**Forever hotfix, 30 Oct (build 1.60.1.70707, up to push 113531)****Mage**- Ice Lance: bonus damage to Frozen targets 200% 300%, and it now has an 8 s cooldown- Winter's Chill: Cone of Cold damage taken per stack 5% 20% (still up to 5 stacks)- Arcane Blast, per stack: spell damage 15% 12% of Intellect; mana cost increase 175% 100%- Ice Barrier: extra Frost damage while shielded 3% 5%- Frigid Power (Ice Barrier's lasting Frost damage bonus): 3% 15%- Arctic Reach: now also increases Ice Lance's range- Arcane Resilience: 2 3 ranks**Items**- Boosted Critical Chance (1229519): 2% weapon crit + 2% spell crit a single 2% crit effect
>>586180345>escape artist>continues to beat the shit out of you
>>586180345
>>586179390Anyone that sells this chemical goyslop for over $2 a can needs to strung up by their nuts.
>>586180345>uses my second account to layer outnothing personnel
>>586180345>your response?become confused and mildly annoyed because I'm on an RP PVE server trying to ERP and you're interrupting me
>>586180250People actually like loot council?
>>586180538Lmao
>>586180345bubble hearth
>>586180509like 10 threads late
>>586179802Get Mango Loco if you can but the green monster is good too. Although it's kinda an acquired taste imo, in the beginning it was too sweet for me.
>>586180631apparentlyI don't really care I'm just along for the ride
>>586180252>Thor status?Obliterated
>>586180631I'm in good top 0.1% guild lc is great
>>586180345*shift out of roots**cast hibernate while you run away in travel form**shift into catform and spams sit behind you along with a /moan macro**gets you impregnant*now what faggot?
dadgamer status?
>>586179760NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHIS CAN'T BE FUCKING HAPPENING, HE WORKED AT BLIZZARD FOR 7 YEARS
>>586180753pretzels and beer enjoyer confirmed
I like the revenge buff warrior bros
>>586180736fk i hate sweet.. might just grab one of each for a test and see what i end up liking, if any
>>586180754>>586180805>he's lost 95% of his audience >bots the shit out of his youtube channelkek
>>586180631good guilds run good councils
>>586180707most of those changes weren't there before or at least nobody mentioned them8s cd isn't so bad if it gets more damageplus that other shit is good too
>>586179760>>586179973He was a nepo intern that did jack all at the company and this diss is probably because they're sick of hearing him say he actually worked there lmao.
>>586179771my guild is doing 2SR+ like we did on troondle
>>586180824There is no revenge buff you lying faggot.Don't bother posting your phishing site link again.
>>586177961Calling it now.All these big name streamers are going Alliance for launch because they're all going Horde for OnlyFangs whenever that happens
>>586180707Retard
>>586179760People give shit to piratesoftware but moonmoon did the same roach shit and he got out scot freehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8VKB_0ls8k
>>586179973>>586181041He worked QA because his father was one of the big shots at the company, then he managed to weasel his way into a minor security position. He then used that to spin the whole "I worked at Blizzard bro" thing.
>>586181041He also had a habit of lying constantly>"Yeah bro trust me bro that first mount in WoD bro the horse bro it made more money than Starcraft 2 did in its entirety in the first week of sales bro"Dude literally just talks out his ass about shit he doesn't know anything about. Also apparently he can't program to save his life. Everyone I know who codes for a living is in physical pain when they see his code.
>>586178416How do you have fun on PVE?
>>586181314Collect boar asses
>>586179760https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdhgz_xrX1sWhat am I supposed to do for you?
>>586181161lol not even close
>>586181161He probably didnt act like a retarded dick afterwards
>>586181273>Also apparently he can't program to save his life. Everyone I know who codes for a living is in physical pain when they see his code.How bad are we talking
>>586181161False dichotomy and you know it.
I want to play an a classic vanilla plus and in no way shape or form does wow forever cater to me, it's all retail crap like the retail blue race, the retail hd art style models, the retail race and class homogenization and lore breaking combos etc etc this wasn't made for classic vanilla enjoyers like me, it was made to spit in my face
>>586181314They either don't care about or are bad at PvP or Roleplay or Both.
>>586179760Watch him try to sue blizzard for defamation
>>586181273Taking out your ass and never backing down is something all the streamers you guys do like do so I don’t understand the distinction as an outsider. And I know you watch streamers because I have a camera in your room in fact I’ve been using electrowave voice to skull technology to implant gay thoughts in your head
>>586179760https://youtu.be/pWGFFFHUyTo?si=7dX35sk5ReKiXk46&t=65Reminds me of when the casters at a big LoL event referenced him.sorry about the streamer creature in the corner this was the only clip of this I could find
>>586181161I'M ALREADY OUT DUDE
>>586181273OK but is he better or worse than yanderedev?
>>586179760Uhh, you guys told me blizzard weren't based anymore.But this seems pretty fucking based to me.
>>586178059Won the losing contest?
>>586181161roaching was only the beginning of pirate's problemshe took that seed and nurtured it into a monster with his autism
>>586179390this is the best one btw, with real sugar not some weird artificial shit
>>586181547Im a classic player from 2004 and I enjoyed the beta. Yes the blue elves are unfortunate but im willing to let it go if they can deliver on everything else.
>>586181161moon did everything he could there tho, I remember this situation, the priest didn't even cast fear btwthe only thing moon could have done is probably stay and frost nova one more time or something
>>586181609>>586179760Was Pirates roach out really so scummy that it has achieved legendary status?I hear this shit being refenced everywhere even outside of WoW but I've never seen the video.
>>586180920Uhhh I think monster and rockstar are not for you then if you don't like sweet drinks. You're probably better off with classic energy drink flavor drinks
>>586181748best one with real sugar is the Mango Loco one, the best zero one is the regular black monster
>>586181835it's not about the roach itself but the aftermath of it, he was doubling down and tripling down and quadrupling down on it instead just saying "yeah i fucked up" really
>>586181630Probably worse, Yandev's code was dogshit, but he was still adding code at more than 1 line a week. Probably, maybe, is Yandev even alive?
>>586181871okay okay i'll make it a draw between this and Mango Loco, agreed on No Sugar, over time I realized White Monster just sucks in flavor
>>586181161This dude actually nova'd the mobs and even waited around for a bit for his team. I looks like the people who died stuck around to fuck with the mobs instead of running with the rest of the group.
>>586181835The roach out was bad but the terrible narcissistic gas lighting that followed is how he got everyone to hate him https://youtu.be/wySIfdGqz3k?is=xx6wPYMY7bYv5But
>>586181630>>586181516So I heard you guys like if statements and if statements and if statements and if statements and if statements and if statements Also booleans do NOT exist. No one EVER uses booleans. Booleans show you are bad. You should only EVER use 0 and 1.
>>586181835It's more so he kept doubling down on lying about something that was caught in 4k at multiple angles, crazy narcissistic behavior that made all of his professional peers (if he had any left) realize he was probably a loser.
>>586181835he is the ultimate greasy weasel. refused to take accountability under any circumstances for what he did. that was the part people hated the most
>>586179760Free internet points from the unemployed, just like putting a Guzu reference in Sunken Temple.
>>586181835It's just because he became a lulcow and get doubling down.
>>586181161The difference is that one talked himself up as being this god tier mage that could salvage anything that happens only to bitch out when the situation arised and the other one is some fat, shit, bald boomer
Forever hotfix, 30 Oct (build 1.60.1.70707, up to push 113531)DruidTalent tree reshuffled:Removed from the tree: Berserk, Improved Shifting Power, Gift of the EarthmotherNew talents: Predatory Discipline, Lacerate (new version), BloomSwapped places: Reflection Subtlety, Furor Heart of the WildPredatory Discipline (new): Ferocious Bite no longer converts extra Energy into damage, but still deals extra damage based on excess EnergyBloom (new): when Rejuvenation or Regrowth expires, the target is healed for a % of your Spirit (a different % if it was dispelled)Primal Bite: flat bonus damage 26 42; its third rank is goneShifting Power: cooldown 16 s 8 sWild Growth: instant 3 s castNaturalist: the cast time reduction now applies to Wild Growth as well as Healing TouchMoonkin Aura: 3% spell crit 3% crit (all crit)Leader of the Pack: 3% melee/ranged crit 3% crit (all crit)Swiftmend: tooltip now says "your" Rejuvenation/Regrowth and "the consumed spell"
Got my name. Effry Jepstien
>>586181835Yes this shit was EVERYWHERE for like several months after it happened. Pirate kept doubling down that he was in the right despite anyone who has played a lick of WoW before knowing he ran away like a coward and played like shit.But things kept escalating as people then started digging into his older videos and finding stuff like him looking up guides to puzzle games then playing it off like he figured it out himself. It turned out he had a mountain of old content to make him an even bigger lolcow that nobody would have bothered looking into if he didn't roach on his guildmates in hardcore.
>>586181086Yeah okay okay sure. Then there's no issue with making revenge stronger right?
>>586181835he fakes his own voice with a modulatorhe's reddit incarnate
>>586182003Jesus Christ.
>>586181835He would still have all his viewers and nobody would give a fuck if he had just acknowledged it was a fuck up on his part.Legitimately, and I'm not joking here, had he just said "you know what, holy shit that was actually bad by me, I panicked and fucked up, my bad" everyone would have laughed at the situation and moved on. Instead he dug his heels into the ground and remained adamant that he did nothing wrong despite overwhelming evidence proving the opposite.
>>586182259sheeesh
>>586182003>for this situation>do nothinglmao
who here rolling tauren just to help out my warlock mastas summon :3?
>>586181612I laughed so hard at that, he was sweating like a pig too lmao
I feel bad for piratesoftware. I hate whenever anyone gets ganged up on no matter who they are or what they did. People really should have just forgiven him even if he never asked for it. I just hate that culture and turning him into a laughing stock. Nobody on earth deserves that. I hate humanities appetite for cruelty
>>586181842i guess.. damn, even coke zero tastes too sweet for me, cant believe i used to drink regular one at some point
>>586182259>Bloom (new): when Rejuvenation or Regrowth expires, the target is healed for a % of your Spirit (a different % if it was dispelled)wtf dispel protection
>>586182460>I feel bad for piratesoftware.fuck you thor
>>586182460>I feel bad for piratesoftwareLiterally all he needed to do or needs to do is go>"Yeah my bad, I was being an idiot"And it's done. The only reason you should feel bad for him is the fact that he's a slave to his own ego/pride.
>>586182441Rolling a tauren warlock because fuck it why not?
>>586182460He deserves it for making Heartbound
>>586182443the sticky glue was the funniest shit too
>>586179469Salty milk and coins
>>586182568if it was me I think I’d just forgive him even if he was spitting on me. I don’t know. I just hate this situation and can’t understand why people wanted to keep it going for so long. It hurts to even look at
>every 15s, undead do 5% damage to their opponent, and heal for 5%what the fuck, this is extremely overpowered in pvp. why was it buffed to 15s and not kept at 25?
>>586182259>>586182549Is this also to encourage druids to time the HoT well for that final tick?
>>586182594Think about it your warlock mastah is already at zul farrakand then me as a tauren i could just run down at 60% grinning ear to ear or horn to horn if you know what i mean :3 just to click the portali love being a tauren so much bwos
>>586180098Based yerb enjoyer
>>586182716Troll also has shadowguard that can proc blackout stun.
>>586181764You sound like a babel media indian shill
>>586182259>More druid buffsFucking why they're already good as shit
>>586180345Ghost WolfFrost ShockGrounding TotemStormstrikeWF crit/rude
>>586181835Not really, they all played like shit and he pussied out rather than stay. The main thing was just refusing to even entertain the idea of going "yeah I ran quickly to save my own ass whatever". People already found him annoying and his general streamer persona was that of this sort of enlightened if not a bit snarky in the know guy making retarded mspaint charts so in contrast it made him look worse. I agree fully it wasn't that big of a deal and nobody should care but he just kept making himself look worse and worse. People were already looking for an angle to really fuck him because he was always mildly annoying and he provided it to them. I'm sympathetic on the basis of he got way too much heat period for playing like shit and the "harassment campaign" was really just because people wanted him gone but he acted as retarded as one could over from the perspective of "literally just say maybe you could have played better and give a fake apology over stupid game drama". I think a big thing is it shows how shit a streamer he was since he couldn't damage control a fairly mundane event when there are streamers screaming nigger faggot in the heat of the moment in front of 200k people and still get away with it because they understand public relations.
>>586182716bc it literally is nothing specially in pvp
>>586182460He could have just said 'I was wrong and I am sorry for lying' at any time, just because a bunch random streamers say that admitting you are wrong at any time is the end of your masculinity doesn't make it fucking natural law.
>>586182259Now post the rogue changes lol
>>586182976site link?
removing gift of the earthmother is a massive nerf
>>586181547yes mr Sherman everything is retail
>>586182976>>586182259r-rogues
>>586182914every 15s is a free automatic differential of 10%every 30s its a free automatic differential of 20%if the fight lasts a minute, it's a free and automatic 40% differentialabsolutely broken
>>586182976and just like that, a million moonkins lost their raid spot.
>>586182976AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FERAL DRUID BROS
>>586182976moonkin bis. beg me to join your raid :)
>>586182259>Berserk removedFuck you, give me Mangle back then
>>586182976big nerf but it was insanely OP>>586183035i stole it from reddit dont have a link, but this further reinforces that 4chan leak
>>586179148stick to your original plan or you will regret it
>>586182839Buffs?Wild growth went from instant to 3s cast. Massive nerf.Swiftmend now consumes rejuv/regrowth, a massive nerf.GotE->Bloom is debatable as GCD reduction wasn't bad.Berserk is dead, no idea what actually replaces it.Imp shifting power being made baseline is the only real buff here.
>watching shangri la frontier while grinding>zyns>weed pen >being racist, sexist and homophobic Yep it's time to grind
I love raptors bwos but there's no way to have a raptor mount as ally...
>>586182976>leader of the pack applies to all forms of crit nowAlso how is wild growth a three second cast and an "oh shit" spell?
>>586182976Priestbros we fucking won
>>586182976>still no shaman buffs
>>586182976>changed melee & spell crit to all critso 1 less druid and another warrior I guess
>>586183219>there's no way to have a raptor mount as ally...That's just not true.
>>586183172No because i'm already moonking and have long & hard reserved all the caster gear for big tauren moonkin cock.
>>586183286It's fine. This is fine.
>>586183174what was the leak?
>>586183315is that the ZG one
>>586183315hacker? that's for trolls you know?
>>586183219What about the zg mount or is that horde only? I forgot
>>586182976>wild growth went from an instant cast to a three second castnani the fuck
I don't care about your mentally ill parasocial obsession with a loser manchild streamerYou're a shill derailing the general with just another flavor of spamkill yourself, nigger
>>586183008And I’m saying I would forgive him even if he didn’t say that and wish everyone else did too. I just dislike this. Nobody should have to go through that. It should have just been a fun game for everyone
>>586182976What's with these retail tier changes?
Warrior or mage? I feel like these are two most fun classes…but which to main? Or perhaps rogue? The hardest part of WoW is actually creating a character
>>586183371Yes>>586183372ZG has a raptor mount drop, very low rate but it can be acquired by both factions.
Where in the FUCK is the NA Horde PvE server
>>586182976>% of your spirithuman druid please.................
>>586183219Wasn't there one that dropped in ZG or something
>>586182976Should have just removed wild growth shit is way too busted in forever we have so much more aoe healing in general I really have no clue how they're going to design challenging healing fights.
>>586183471>warrior or mageThe thinking man's choice. Unfortunately there is no right answer.
>>586183501>>586183371there's a speculated devilsaur rare mount drop in forever too
>>586182976Can these fuckers just admit they have no idea what they're doing? Maybe just pass it along to a different developer at this point.
>>586183532All I can think of is that it's a preemptive spell that you cast before a big party wide hit of damage.
>Nothing for holy paladin, not even a holy shock buff
>>586182976Arcane Blast change is more interesting but mechanically worse. I think they should've done Arcane Barrage instead of Blast.
reply to my post if you will be playing rp pvp horde
will AV be fixed by being suboptimal honor or will it still be a zergfest?
>>586183471Put all your options on a dart board. Throw a dart. If you're satisfied with where the dart lands, good. If you aren't satisfied, then you already knew what you wanted to play in the first place.
>>586182976That's it fuck rogues I'mma make a druid.Are night elves still most op?
>>586183504That's where I am playing friend.
>>586183669I will be ERPing with orcs and tauren
>>586182976So the auras stack........... right............?Right...???
WOWNIGGERS IM SO HECKIN HYPED AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>586183504I was going to make a horde RP-PvE guild but daybreak beat me to it on alliance side, so I figure why split the wowfg community further. That and I really don't want to run a fucking guild again
>>586182976LMAO MOONKIN AURA NO LONGER UNIQUEEVERY GROUP WILL NOW JUST WANT A FERAL TANK AND NEVER BRING THE CHICKEN GET FUCKED
>>586183750i want to do that with my skelf but on na pve
>>586183753>so the auras stack........... right............?
>>586183686We're hoping to god it will be the fun original design but they mentioned wanting to put reinforcements back in sadly
>>586182976This is fake, retards.
Stonetalon Mountains has some under-developed and underappreciated Highborne lore.I hope when they eventually get to the zone they delve deeper into that.
>>586183401uh oh, melty!
Thoughts?
wild growth was fucking BROKEN, like insanely broken even as a "oh shit" button
>>586183813Just go PvP, it’s more fun to have some risk in the world and you can roleplay a orc loving elf
>>586183879READ THE THREAD NIGGER KYS KYS KYS Ahhhhhhhhhhhh
>>586182976So it's just shuffling things around a bit. Maybe making it easier to dip into both some bear and cat stuff. What replaced Beserk though? Predatory Discipline sounds like the kind of thing that would slot in where imp. shifting power was.
>>586183879fighting all my inner demons to not reroll mage
>>586183908no, i want to see the bald man and his big chud gatherings
>>586183879rogue bros....
>enhancement shaman>Mindfulness: 50% mana regen while casting>Improved stormstrike: 50% mana regen while casting>Polished driftwood icon: 8% mana regen while castingDoes this actually mean you get 108% mana regen while casting? Can't be right?
>>586183286Resto druid getting pummeled is good for resto shaman. I wish everyone I know wasn't already a shaman player since vanilla so I could finally roll one
>>586184068obviously they will not stack but even if they did it would be a nothing burger
>>586184074Real question is if all those shamans you know will even get to level 60.
>>586182976the leaker from a few days ago was right damn. and everyone ignored his post Lol
>>586183879They removed Feral's capstone talent?Really???
>>586184182so what was his leak?did he mention any other classes getting anything? because i dont care about druid and mage and priest
bro aggrend donut assistant is getting more things right....druid changes...
>>586183879Wild growth being a three second cast time with no buffs genuinely confuses the fuck out of me. When would I ever want to use that now. It was always an expensive "OH SHIT" reactive spell when your group took a lot of damage.But if you are going to spend three seconds casting that fucker you can just send out five rejuves in 2.5 seconds for the entire group
What are we 5 days out from launch and they're still doing major talent reshuffles and haven't locked down the most played and overpowered classes from vanilla like mage yet lolThis is a joke and I'm being gracious Nothing is ready so I hope they don't stop when we get to launch because there needs to be another couple months at least of ability and talent tweaks the way things are
>>586184305wotlk shit was going to get changed
>>586183879Did hunters get nerfed again?
>>586184305He guessed like 4 things then spammed his post everywhere like he had just leaked the next smash bros roster.
>>586184068mana isnt exactly the limiting factor in enhance shaman's dps so who cares
>>586182460While I'm inclined to agree; nobody told him he needed to build his reputation by comporting himself in such a way. He could've stopped and re-oriented his trajectory a hundred times over in a thousand other ways; but chose to consistently double and triple down in being an elitist, insufferable know-it-all. When you're finally revealed to be a phony and it all comes crashing down; is it really everyone's fault that you decided to build its foundations a mile high?Sometimes the worst things that happen to us are for our own good; who knows if being knocked down a peg is just the antidote he needed.
>Massive class changes 4 days before releaseThis does not bode well for the future of the game
>>586184502fuck off back to pservers then tranny
>>586182259how did you get the datamine so fast
>new warcraft vampire survivors clone>new warcraft arena clone>new warcraft slay the spire clonewhat's happening? is this Claude?
>>586184502Devs are clearly out line changing things in beta you're right
>resto druidnew THE RAPED spec just dropped
>>586184489exactly, nobody wants to deal with that kind of character if he's not some gigachad that slays pussy wherever he goes, bc then men actually want to follow you in being and assholethis dude gets 0 pussy and therefore is just an asshole for no reason
>>586183718I meant to put guild instead of server. fuck.>>586183783I'm also too retarded to run a guild. Dont even want to try it.
F U C KUCKB L I Z ZLIZZ
>>586182259Someone here called it out, that they were removing Wrath stuff. Is Penance next?
>>586183879>instead of buffing Prot Paladins for 3 viable tanks they nerf Feral to make sure Prot Warrior is the defacto tankKWAB
>>586184502#nochanges fucktards still think the game won't be constantly evolving post release jfchow the fuck are you people still here I thought you killed yourselves in 2020 after the fiasco that was classic wow
>>586184621Yes ai coding is letting people easily shit out browser games.
>>586184305the mage things and the druid things that's it. everything else has been cryptic because that's probably all the info he had. aka fat retard with a friend at blizz or something
>Gift of the Earthmother removedkek raped rejuv spammers
>>586184621People are just that dedicated during the downtimeno ai has been used and if people say so they are lying>>586184502why sis?
>>586184440lmfao
>Will be forced to don the dress even more now with these druid changesT-thanks
>>586184537based. we must continue to push this mentally ill freaks out
>>586184502its almost like the beta existed to find problems that needed fixing and now their fixing them
did blud reply to his own post?
>>586184409>>586184502first time playing a live service game?
>>586184305>>586184817he didn't leak the mage/druid changeshis "leak" was like>2% crit on humans nerfed to 1%>1% crit on orcs removed (I think)ok he predicted that, very nicethe rest was vagueposting>wotlk things will be changedwhich was inevitably gonna be the case
SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE WILD GROWTH CHANGE TO MEWHY WOULD I EVER USE THIS FUCKER NOWITS A THREE SECOND CAST TIME
>>586184994You didn't even reply to any post. retard.
>>586185070You WILL purchase and play the blue elf to stack haste and you WILL be happy
>>586185070read the line below it
Druids seething, caged, not breeding
>>586185070its just copy of priest aoe heal now
>>586184761How many people have they pissed off and alienated in the last 35 days with these enormous nerfs, instead of taking a buffing attitude towards underwhelming and ill performing classes/skills and itemsThis is like a masterclass in how not to do an advertising betaAnd the crazy thing is people called this exact thing happening before the beta even launched
Whispers of massive holy pala buffs coming.
I like how the people that play druid are just confused or pointing out how half of it is nerfs, and the ones that don't just see changes and assume it's a blanket of buffs.
>>586184729>I meant to put guild instead of server. fuck.Oh same, I am looking as well, I am sure one will come along.
>>586185070aoe healing is super op
>>586185070because it's a big fat aoe heal>>586185150not rly it's a hot
>>586184621You're bearing witness to both the death and subsequent rebirth of gaming. It's a shocking thing but impermanence is a universal law after all.
>>586184502This is the best thing ever for WoW because of all the meta chasing retards getting getting a long overdue kick in the balls
>>586178569I've played retail since 2006I couldn't care less about my heckin mount pets and cheevos, I play the game for fun and retail has really lost its fun factor
>>586185070it's a big heal
>>586185191Yeah maybe it's best not to play with the retards that post in here
>>586185070you can do the priests job if hes playing shadow
>tfw you play shaman
>>586184768I'd bet blizzard abandons the game and flat out refuses to change it after launch, there's no money in it for them to keep dumping time and resources They have your money and know you're an addict who eats literal shit
>>586185153I know man they should just buff all the underperformersGive them all the tools they lackThen we'll finally get our exact repeat of retail balancing
>>586185187I'm not a healslut so it's all buffs to me
I AM SO BAD AT NAMES AAAAAA FUCK
>>586184621link to the wow arena clone? i need to get my pvp iq in place before release
>>586185153I called that there would be changes in the beta and people would be little bitches about it, guess I'm fucking nostradamus. I also called that despite whining they will still play the game.
Why are there so many healer mains in this general?
>>586185230I said in an earlier thread that I hoped the game's balance would be in CONSTANT FLUX, and I am getting my wish. I equally hope we get another class balance adjustment on the Friday night after launch, just to see how many SPEED RUNNERS /wrist themselves and reroll.
>the aggrend donut leak was realbros..15 donuts...
>>586179390>drinking jewish 666
>>586185368theres a lot of trannys that post in here
>>586185368its the caged general
>>586185368because I can't play moonkin now
>>586185312Just pick a first name that you wouldn't mind seeing typed for the next few months before you inevitably drop the game and add "Forever" as the second.
WHO IS NEXT?
If I've played retail since vanilla, are dungeons fully zoomerfied now or is it pretty chill if idk where the fuck I'm going
>>586185438That's /wowg/, sorry.
>>586185153>the retail team they imported to work on Forever is doing retail balancingI'm shocked, I tell you. SHOCKED.
>>586185475spriest spirit buff becomes raid wide
>>586185475I'm thinking some more mage changes
>>586185368I know this is a shock to you, but despite the rampant shitposting, sometimes generals still do have people that actually play the game in them.
>>586185438Cage that clitty.
My strong aoe heal in classic+ has le cast time?!
>>586185475YOU DECIDE
>>586185507no those guys use the half-sphere cages, we use the flat ones.
hi where are the rogue buff :DDDDD
>>586185475>buffs holy and prot at the last minutehe wouldnt .... wouldnt he?
I can't wait to see the Paladin changes where they remove Twist of Light and execute Esfand live on stream.
>>586185475>15 DPM
>>586185475
Thinking about duoboxing this time around. Comfy duo?
If that Druid nerf is real I'm just going to roll a Mage
>>586185656>execute Esfand live on streamits about time
>>586178452old players dont even have all mog mounts cheevo bullshit to worry about lol. Only Retoilets have all that shit unlocked. >>586178651sunk cost fallacy.
Does it make anyone else's skin crawl that whenever blizz fucks up a bunch of troons flood the general to defend them, creepy as fuck
>>586185312Pick a title, or something universal like "Adventurer", than whatever name you would have wanted. You're always defaulted to "Adventurer" anyway, so it kind of fits.
>>586185475THE DONUTS
>Namedropping irrelevant shitskins
>>586185561>healing>"playing the game"This is bait.
>>586184040there's no way he's actually going pve it doesn't make any sense at all from any way i look at itdid he really get butt blasted that hard in classic?even then what a pussy lmao
>>586185793im a pvp healer, i solo queue WSG all day long
>>586185759what are you going to do with the real titles then?
how did he know
>>586185368I AM THE RULER OF LIFE AND DEATH!KNEEL BEFORE YOUR MASTER!!
>>586185301>>586185529The duality of man
>>586185280Met a ton of good discord friends like a decade ago on /vg/ for Destiny 1/2 but WoW general's are kind of a different animal, tons more of built in psychos just due to the age of the game. It's not impossible, but I think it is harder these days make friends to play with here.
>vibecoders who don't even know how to code are making wow games way more fun than anyone at blizzard employee has been able to make in over a decadekek
A SECOND NUKE IS COMING
>The implication here is they made Leader of the Pack the Feral capstone again which directly contests with balance, but also probably because Moonkin was the other capstoneThe fuck is their problem.
>>586185875Wait was he actually for real??
>>586185756Doubt it's troons, likely a jeet shill farm like BabelMedia
>>586185383I saw that and laughed. Legitimately a good idea to keep a lot of these fucks in check before they turn Forever into another Classic. Drop it hours before official launch. Keep up the momentum throughout launch. The content creating roaches will be scrambling to keep up while playing the game and """falling behind.""">OH NO I DIDNT ROLL THE OP CLASS FOR THIS MONTH'S PATCH INSTEAD OF WHAT I THINK LOOKS AND SOUNDS COOLIt would be a glorious renaissance
>>586185875wild growth is not gone tho?
do I keep my warrior as dwarf or do I reroll to nelf...
>>586185875Where does fatass get his donuts from so we can put a bunch of laxatives in them and then when he's on the podcast he blows shit all over his cvckboard
>>586178416how many planned raiders do you have so far? Any raid slots left or no?
>>586185972Human priest bros we're eating so good
>>586185972source
>>586185972source?
>>586185312Hit up some name generators, check out official NPC name lists, and get splicing
>>586185972
>>586185972>throw is instant?????
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/over-8-million-characters-were-created-in-the-wow-forever-beta-383669Retailbros...
>>586185932I remember on /wowpsg/ I met some cool people in some classic server. Shoutout LODS OF EMONE. But it's been so long i don't remember anyones names, or even what name i used.
What server/faction/class for this feel?
>>586185435where can i find a group to play witih
>>586185561It was a dog whistle, don't get so worked up over it. Lots of anon in this general really like sissification and trannies, that's why we're always finding our way back into talking about it every thread.
>>586185972link
>>586186182well, people needed to make a gorillion alts for legacy points so i'm not surprised.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/over-8-million-characters-were-created-in-the-wow-forever-beta-383669Not bad
>>586185972>human spirit +10%HUMAN BROS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT!!!
>>586185972so why the fuck they don't extend the beta if the game is clearly unfinished? the game is clearly not 1.0 state for launch
>>586185972awit ...everything here was already known days ago?
>>586186182Always pay attention to the wording. Characters, not accounts. I'm not saying it's not significant, but they're being cheeky by not saying "accounts" here to inflate it a notable bit.
>>586185972>Talent tree reworkedHoly pala bros?
>>586184480It is when you're stacking INT, actually
>>586184041quiet deca
>>586186320This is almost all numbers tweaking, it hardly indicates the game being "unfinished".
>>586185875wild growth not gone. "wrath level talents" is vagueposting. got the racial stuff right though.
new skelf redesign leaked on the PTR
>>586186263i dont think characters created is a good metric for anything
>>586185972>Rogue: Throw is instantholy fuck that's actually a massive change
If blizzard made a good game they wouldn't need to use jeet shills to push shovelware
>>586186320Anyone with a brain knew to treat launch like early access, a proper launch would have likely been in January or December. GTA6 is your reason any game is rushing shit to get out before then.
>>586185972>plains running now stacks to 60%oh fuck
>>586186495this. See >>586179489
>>586186489shit i wish, that looks soulful and uniqueinstead we have blood elves from tbc.they aren't about to invest time and money into making entirely new models
>>586186459easily could have changed their mind on wild growth as it did get nerfed
>>586185875wow, obvious nerf to 2% critvaguepostingand wrong about wild growthhow did he do it bros...
>>586182976>resto druid goes from best healer to the worstzero (0) chance these changes are real.
Here are some Beta stats that the WOW Forever team released.
>>586183879that furor change is great for leveling pvp chads
Donuts status?
>>586185972>+1% hit for dwarfsOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IMMA GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM
>>586186489I would have zero issues with skelfies having that sort of model. That looks great.
>>586186205rp alliance obviouslynelf x skelf lesbian sex will be everywhere
>>586185972>"Talent tree reshuffled">"Talent tree reworked"Vaguepost list about as real as this.
>>586186712its just homogenization for 10man balance by the looks of it so you dont feel bad not having certain healers/spec, druid is still good
>>586186489kinda jak n daxter look, i like it if true
>>586184385>you can just send out five rejuves in 2.5 seconds for the entire group>removed gift of the earth motheranon....I....
>>586185972>Blessing of Salvation removedI guess it's baseline in a way? Blanket threat reduction?
>>586186719>retail transplant race is over 20% of the total populationgrim
>>586186719Here's the 2nd image.
>>586186426Strength is still better than INT desu.2 AP per point vs 1 But now Int has more value than just mana pool which is nice QOL. Its not like Shaman are simming well in dps anyway, who cares. >nerf the worst class in the game no.
>>586186813holy shit, is this real?
>>586185972>orc warriors lost their crit >but hunters and warlocks got their pet damage backt-thanks.....
>>586186489>looks like a slightly devolved elf from primal energy sources with a mix of troll and elf featuresI wish, that would actually tempt me. A Troll/Elf in-between is actually a passable idea vs >yeah the blood elves are blue now
>>586186813This is not real. Cats are not allowed to serve alcohol at night. Owner would have been arrested long ago.
>>586186932TOTAL KOBOLDDOMINANCE
>>586186589The negros and broccoli hairs that will masturbate over the GTA VI box don't play WoW
>>586185972whats point of 0.5 sec cast, isnt it on gcd still? and you can cast while moving so
Bros, you can either ride the blizzard nerf/buff roulette, or just pick a class knowing this:Warrior will always be good.Mage will always be good. They have never at any point in this games history been bad.
>>586185972>plainsrunning goes up to 60So cows are now literally free mount?
>>586186936I think Blizzard even forgot Shamans want STR.
One thing is just tweaking numbers, but massive talent tree reworks 4 days before launch is worrying, to say the least.
>>586186489Stop lying, and also it looks like shit and wouldn't fit in the game either.
>>586186719>>586186932And here is the 3rd one.
>>586186932yeah Thanes is overtuned compared to ROL, RFC and all the other low level dungeons
>>586187073sure if you don't mind your mount having a 2 minute cast time
>>586186932The deadliest creature is always some shit from an early human zone because all the normie shitters pick human.
>>586186813Ahahahaahaah funny kot WAIT WAIT NO MY BEER!
>>586186918yeah but 100% of beta participants had access to themthe launch number will be way smaller
>>586187073After 2 1/2 minutes of uninterrupted running, yes.
>>586187054Same with warlock too iirc.
>>586187096shut the f*ck up deca
>>586186952Its sort of funny. The strongest races in game in terms of muscle mass cannot crit. Nice Design Blizzard.
>>586187054>picking mage because arcane looks cool and funI can't lose
>>586187121>Hillsbrad>Most PvPOh ho just you wait til STVietnam
>>586187054Warrior needs buffs
>>586186320Because games aren't often released finished these days, consider launch to simply be an official early access. The beta (and the pre-orders) were meant to estimate interest both for Blizz, and their publisher to give the green light in diverting further resources into this new thing.New things are dangerous, they cost money and pose a risk of not generating a return. Familiar things are much safer; Blizz is lucky that their new thing is also a familiar thing.
>>586186578Slowing Poison Kiting Rogue!
best lock race for pvp?is it orc, undead, human or gnome?
>>586187175that you can attack from>>586187218easy to do with hunter, just sting and scoot
>>586186813I lolled very hard at this
>>586186932i loved thanes. the first time felt like a lost wing of brd
>>586186182i've made 6 characters and not a single one over level 12 with total of 15 hours, meaningless numbers
>>586186489actually soul
how long until that faggotpopin starts crying about druid nerfs and aggrend reverses them?
They're not gonna allow Tauren paladins because these demons would be zapping to the extreme with holy shock and plainswalking.
>>586187325orcalliance wont play fear classes on pvp server
>>586187096It does seem rather reckless to ship huge untested class changes, rather than doing them earlier in the beta, so that the beta testers can test the changes.What's the worst that could happen...
>>586186489Damn this looks sick.
>>586187092I mean yeah, when 15 strength is 30 AP vs 15 for INT you're still going to want it. White swings and Windfury is still the bulk of the damage.
>>586187054illiterate bro....
>>586186489it looks slopped by gemini, literally can see ai artifacts lmao, did you find it on reddit?
>>586187096Release is going to be paid open beta
>>586187451i mean what is best mechanicallyhuman seems better than orc because stuns are very punishing on a lock and humans can get out of those
>>586179760>>586183665great change imo, more arcane blasts mean more enhanced chances for arcane barrage and they aren't as fucking expensive to cast.I remember trying to cast a 3rd arcane blast would make leave me at like 50% mana
>>586187545so u wont be playing?
>>586186489if real I'll refund instantly. I paid 30 dollars to get my blood elf waifu, not whatever the fuck this is.
>>586186405Yeah, I don't know either; but illiteracy is a rapidly growing epidemic in the perpetually online.
>>586185153You are all retards. Every single one of you in the thread.How are you still so oblivious to the fact that the game is too easy, classes are too strong ACROSS THE BOARD.Everything should be nerfed. Literally fucking everything.You know what, what they did to Elemental Shaman isn't a disgrace. It should be looked at as the GOLD STANDARD for what all other classes should have happen to them.If they do that, WoW Forever will be SAVED. Instead they're buffing mages... again... like fucking weasly little bitches. They need to take their tongues out of Xaryu, Ziqo and Venruki's assholes. It's embarrassing.
>>586187054i dont think priest has ever been bad either
>>586187325Always the answer is Female Gnome.Makes Zuggers lose their cool.Also with a shrinking device like World Enlarger, you can also do some really sneaky shit.I remember running flags in WSG and almost the entire enemy team simply never saw where I was.
>>586187054I'm still set on my main 3-4 class picks I planned to always have alts of, but if the changes are legit and not just partial datamines, I'm a bit annoyed if Berserk did actually get pruned and Pack is just the feral capstone again instead of a new skill or CD to hit. Even if the energy saved on pooled energy ferocious bites would add up over the course of a fight.
>>586186489Actually looks good and unique. Won't happen since chinks would revolt.
>>586187449Honestly they shouldn't cap the taurens potential run speed. Turn them into the fucking flash, the longer they run, the faster they get until they hit a slope wrong and get launched from barrens into silithus.
>>586185475arms changes2h weapons deal -2% damage
>>586187679eureka doesnt work with dots, 5% extra mana doesnt matter on warlock, and since warlocks are already the slowest class, getting out of a slow isnt as good as getting out of a stun. so I know human is better than gnome.
>>586187627>it may be diarrhea but I guarantee you people will eat it up anyways!Great marketing campaign
>>586186263>>586186182even if every account made 10 chars (extremely unlikely) that's 800k people for a paid beta. betting it was around 2-4milli people god damn
>>586187545>paidthe game is free tho?
>>586187757answer the question
>>586186712I almost hope the resto changes are real so that I can easily choose priest without feeling like I'm missing out not going resto druid. Absolutely fucking terrible changes though. The shorter gcd would have been so fucking fun.
instead of blue skinned bloodelves, skyborne shouldve been bloodelf skinned night elves
People doomposting about Wild Growth are pretending to be retarded right? The very next line in the note says WG is supported by the cast time reduction of Naturalist so it will be 0.5 or 1.0s cast
>>586187512Don’t backtalk me Jorge or el jefe will slap you.
>>586187793Need a sub at least.
>>586187793NA and EU need to pay a monthly sub
>>586187801Or what, mr. marketer?
>>586187835lol
>>586187793>$15/mo>free
>>586187656priest has definitely had design problems in recent retail xpacs. current shadow is a mess.
>>586187754Demoralization matters.
How long before Blizzard is sold off to China and shutdown like BioWare with the Saudis That's the woke endgame
>Human spirit >Dark inspiration >Spirit fap Are priests going to be warlock-tier mob farmers now or what
>>586187834They just should've used the damn Nightborne as a base, lol.
>>586187835You can tell the actual druid players and the non druids reacted in very different ways.
>>586187852>>586187880>>586187937>xhe didn't farmed tokens in retaillmaoing @ ur life dood
The shitposter was right about them removing wotlk shit?PLEASE tell me ele sham is gonna be fixed
>>586187054i'm a neet with 25 hours a day free time, i will level every class so i can always be on top!
>>586187962doesnt count when the recent retail xpacs are themselves a design problem
>>586188000checked
>>586177961i am so bored that i started playing the auction house on classic era over the past few days.level 1 started with 10 copper now i am sitting on 17 gold + 10 gold in assetsstarted bidding 1 copper on anything i could findfirst flip was to 1 silverstarted bidding en masse on 1 copper itemsfirst 2 gold madewent into recipe trading17 gold + a few recipes including one epic oneif forever is gonna be this easy i am eating good.
>>586188003Doubtful
>>586186489Why did I of the Jak games
>>586187709When we hit a player at full speed they should go flying
>>586188003>PLEASE tell me ele sham is gonna be fixed
>>586188003They should just steal that one explosive shot chain lightning DoT idea some anon had.
>>586187980they dont even go under half mana on a simmed 3min fight non stop casting
>>586188132>CAN YOU BEAT WOW FOREVER ONLY EVER USING THE AUCTION HOUSE
>>586188003Ele will only be fixed if a prolific streamer rolls one and starts complaining about it.
>>586188185>>586188139please anons, lava burst is so bad i'm literally going to have to pick another class if they keep it
>go to retail thread>cntrl f forever>97 hitsoof
>>586188185
>>586187835wild growth gaining a cast time is a nothingburger, it has a cast time in retail and I have no idea why it was brought over as an instant cast. The real problem is removing the GCD reduction talent, and also it looks like swiftmend will consume the HoT now which is extremely anti-fun. Both of these changes kill the spec IMO and I shan't be rolling druid if these go live.
>>586188215they should just make ele the TBC version and I'd be content
>>586188249the retail auction house might make it harder but I also found profitable things on the retail one but retail is boring.my auction char has 2 hours played, really wasnt hard.
>>586181835he threatened to get the other streamers banned with his blizzard connections if they kept talking about it after repeatedly lying about how innocent he wasunironically he would be making big money right now on forever if he had just said "yeah I hated those guys so I thought it would be funny if they died" which is actually the truth
>>586187835>it will be 0.5 or 1.0s castso wild growth will be 3 seconds. naturalist reduces the cast time by 0.1 per point for a total of 0.5When you subtract 0.5 from 3 you get 2.5hope that helps!
What is your irl preperation for forever release?i'm gonna bake cookies on release day :3
>>586185292my lvl 15 shaman will have +6% hit. im comfy, feeling optimistic
>>586188457They gave Totem of Wrath to Moonkin. So they wont do it.
>>586188520I'm going to start smoking weed again after a 10 month hiatus
Where are the Paladin changes?
>>586179469its mostly grapefruit flavor
>>586179469sprite and some type of chemical
>>586188613DUDE
>Played Ele Shaman since forever>Larp as /MY LITERAL HERO/ Uchiha Sasuke>Click Elemental Mastery>"Vanish with the roar of the thunder...">Chain Lightning delete some faggot from existence>Fast forward to today>World of WoWcraft Forever>Chain Lightning someone>Deal no damageEpic. Simply fucking epic. Love that t b h. Thank you Blizzard for laying waste to my favorite spec. Bravo, I kneel.
>>586188613Fuck i wish that was mewant me to blow you while i let you have windfury totem too?
>>586188598Glyph of mobile casting Lightning Bolt!We had it first, and then Ele became the only goddamned fucking spec without instant/mobile casts.
>human isnt bis for a single class in pvpundead are much better warlocksgnomes are much better rogues, warriors, mages, priestsnight elves are much better huntersundead are much better paladins
druid nerfs are holy paladins buffs. we're winning bros
I hate naming characters
>>586186489the faces look identical in SD and HD kek
>>586188756Thats now Enhancement Shaman with Maelstrom stacks. Mobile casting is retail slop anyway.
>>586188461Sounds fun I'll try the same
>>586186489Just can't escape AIslop anywhere, can you?
>>586185972>binding heal is replaced by holy bindingSo unless this is just a rename of the same spell, or it's a new extremely OP talent, this will be a huge nerf to holy priest. I guess they weren't happy enough with gutting disc, now holy will be shit as well.
>>586188813Humans have more virile seed / fertile wombs, though.
inb4 everyone starts vibe-coding their own botsthe future of gaming is grim
>>586188598well they should at least give back the spell power totem and my 2 button lightning/chain lightning rotation
>>586188520I took a week off from work that's all my preparation
>>586188791YOOOOOOOO 100% REGEN FOR A WHOLE HOUR
>>586186489the lanky troll arms look cool
>>586188746I know how you feel anon but it seems like they're making some pretty big changes before release and that one anon who correctly leaked the druid changes said wotlk abilities removed so huff some cope with me that we go back to big lightning boys
>>586189024>removed binding heal from priests and gave it to paladins
>>586188520my mom is making me 8 piping hot nutella crepes and a big cup of milk
>>586188813human priests are best
>>586189215you combine the retardation of an anime poster with a faggot catposter plus you're an avatar troondisgusting
>>586189024HOLY KINO holy strike using your shield too. LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO. SPELL BLOCK?
>>586189024Block...SPELLS!?
>>586189282at being the worst priest choice
>>586189215STOP LAUGHING!!!
>>586188746>anime fags playing Shaman Uhhh this is the boomer class, not the weeb class. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw
>>586189097Reading comprehension bro.They completely removed the increased duration with a leyline. It only gives you the increased effect. The new thing is just that you get a buff for 1 hour that allows you to get the increased effect every time you use it for the next hour.
>>586188746>>586189382Ele is for Boomershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg14jNbBb-8
>>586189097ESL, or just burgergoy education?
changes confirmed on: https://foreverchanges.pro/patch-notes
>>586188396If they're trying to keep power levels reasonably close to vanilla then swiftmend riptide and penance are all way too good, instant heals and nukes are wotlk level stuff
>>586189323>>586189326holy fuck. means you can be uncrushable with holystrike proccing your redoubt instantly too. giving you 60%. need to see the holy shield numbers though
>>586185972>ice lance 8 second cooldownmage bros....
>>586188746https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax2TkRdJiV0
>>586189097
>>586189595CURE THE DISEASES, SHADOWKEKSNO EXCUSES
I just wanted to play Balancewhat the FUCK is their problem
>>586189595Druid bros it's over before it even started
>>586189618then why did they give us a month to play with them, have fun with them, plan our classes and mains around them, balance the game around them. Now they have to rebalance everything with five days left lmao.
I can't wait for all the pugs where the retarded hunter tries his epic le melee weave dps while failing every mechanic, failing to do tranq when needed, and dying because he weaved at the wrong time.
>more arcane blastingI like it, keep buffing arcane mage blizz
>>586189595I like how mages are still getting tweaks to shit that shouldn't even be in the game like ice lance, while elemental shamans might as well not even exist at this point lol priorities
>Oath of Light
You WILL play Paladincraft!
>>586189024>>586189326>block spellsHoly shit the undead paladin blocking a spell in the gameplay trailer wasn't just for cinematic effect!
>Didn't change the 8 points needed to unfuck starfirecunts
>>586188520Big pot of chili
>>586189595>primal bite is now capstoneUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhthe fuck?I skipped it entirely since it doesn't do anything for dps cat, why the fuck is this capstone now?
>>586189882Do shaman even have a shitskin on twitch constantly pressing the devs for changes to their class?
>>586190029Your capstone choice is between Primal Bite and Shifting Power now, isn't it?
>>586189595>THE CONSUMED SPELLSWIFTMENT GUTTED>Gift of earth mother removedNO MORE RAPID FIRE REJUVSNO FUN ALLOWEDNO FUN ALLOWEDNO FUN ALLOWED
Is spellblock even good for like 99% of bosses
>>586189595I'm huffing cope again. Please make changes before launch and unfuck my class blizzard.
>>586189595Not reading this shit, happy for you or sorry it happened
>>586188520im throwing away the key, absolutely no distractions for this gal
>>586188520Pre-shelled hard boiled eggs from Costco. Small dish of salt. Luxury potato vodka with cranberry juice.
>>586190051cdew is the only shaman player and he is mainly a retail and gambling streamerno one is pushing for shaman changes
>>586188520Lots of instant mac and cheeseThought about making my own but since its just me I wont bother
Holy Paladin bros, we’re back…
We're all switching to rogue in protest and holding the servers hostage by ganking everyone until they fix this shit right?
>blud really thinked he was gonna be able to spam rejuv like in r*tail
>>586190158There's no testing anymore, right?Start smelting those Copium Bars.
>>586190275fix what sis?
>>586189027Hope you didn't take release day off as you wont be playing then and probably at least half way into the next day.
The fact that every micropatch has mage changes is by design. Aggrend rightly fears the autism of the Mage Council. He is neutralising them with constant micropatches while he finishes his massive donut-fueled masterpiece of a launch patch. The druid changes are just a distraction from the mage deception.
>>586190125It 100% depends if "blocks spells" only means Frostbolt / Fireball / Shadowbolt / etc, or if it includes non-physical debuff/impairment spells.
>>586190296I thought you didnt do that anymore unless they buffed germination?
>>586189595>primal bite is the feral druid capstoneWhat a humiliation ritual
>>586190307no testing but the anon who posted about racial changes and druid changes a week ago claimed that there were still reworks coming and that wotlk abilities were getting removed.
>>586190120>we lose 50% haste on our rejuv, swiftmend, wild growth>we gain a miniscule heal equal to our max spirit, so a couple hundred at best This has to be an out of season april fools joke
>>586190095>shifting powerThat's at least relevant but not that great eitherSeems like I'll have to redo all my plan or just go paladin.
>>586190341Surely this time will be different.
>>586190383it means blocking damage like an attacknot debuffs
>>586190381>Every time the retard mage autist are about to finish their calc he drops another one so they have to sim againDeviously based
>>586190383blocking a spell doesn't negate its effect in retail
>>586190341Nope. I'm euro so it releases at midnight when I'll be sleeping. Am in home office Thursday and Friday so I try to play but also don't have too many hopes. Then my time off starts after the weekend.Will be kino bros.
Im gonna groom /wowfag/ posters on discord until theyre deep down the rabbit hole then ghost them!
We're so back. The Fatman came in clutch for us Palachads
>people believe this shit that theyre gonna do like a 180 and completely change how classes play on the last day before launch
>>586190029>capstone is Heroic StrikeAHAHAHAHAHA
What class sets/gear does Tauren look best in? I've always loved Tauren but never rolled one because nothing really fits them. No Druid. Their Druid forms are dogshit.
PROTECTION PALADIN IS BACK ON THE MENU BABY
>>586190756it's bear mangle without the bleed debuff, maul is already heroic strike
>>586188520my girlfriend is a great cook and will be making meals while we both play
It's so over... I don't think I'm going to play any more bros... go on without me... have fun without me...
>>586190534>>586190637Ah, didn't realize that. Thanks, anons.
>>586190758warrior
>>586190095wait what the fuck did they do
>>586190495Jackie is a Dev, deal with itanus the size of a tangerine
>>586190758They look badass in gear if you just never display a helmet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1xjt93u/wow_forever_class_hotfixes_30_october_216_talents/https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1xjt93u/wow_forever_class_hotfixes_30_october_216_talents/https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1xjt93u/wow_forever_class_hotfixes_30_october_216_talents/
>>586190495>a couple hundred at besttry 0it'll all be overhealing in 99% of situations
i dont even want to play anymore. poe 2 in december
>>586188520I will clean my room and shave cause I'm going degen mode for at least a fortnight t. 36 year old man
>Implying the changes will stop after release
>>586189595The fuck
>>586190908GET THE FUCK IN HERE, REDDITBROS
>>586190954that's kinda fucked and I don't even play feral
>undead make the best paladins and warlocks>gnomes make the best warriors, mages, priests and rogues>night elves make the best hunters>orcs the best shaman>night elves the best druidswhy do humans exist?
>>586190908what the fuck binding heal for free and now flash heal heals self aswell
Im going on a no-cum strike to protest, and putting on my cage until blizzurd fixes Forever!!!
>>586191029Because of me.
Roguebros....the overhaul....*cough*
>>586190954I will never forgive powershiftingniggers when wotlk tiger's fury was perfect
>Holy Power: now +50% critical healing bonus on Holy spells (was +15% crit on Holy Shock and Holy Strike, +5% on other spells).
>>586190908Was wrack really op?
>>586191029to mog dwarfkeks
>>586191029you already made this gay postlet me give u some tips1. humans can't be shamans or druids2. alliance can't be undead or orcs3. human racials are very good and your assessment is subjective
>>586191042my heal logs from VE with the death self damage is gonna be kino
>>586189669only intelligent people play spriest so this is a bonus activity
r-rogues?
>>586190954TWO CAPSTONES
>>586191051We’ll all put our cages on and walk through Orgrimmar bottomless in protest!
>>586191029a human druid would be unstoppable with their giga spirit
>>586191042>shadow word death giga nerfedAm I crazy or it needed a buff not a nerf? And the talent for it is terrible anyway.
>>586191042I don't understand the point when binding heal has the exact same specs as flash heal but duplicated
>>586191042Kek and they laughed at us priestbros
>>586190908>Nothing for rouge..
>>586191318ur not crazy just retarded
>>586191165>10% spirituseless>perceptiononly useful when you know the rogue is coming at you>1% critgood but touch of the grave is much better, so is blood fury and elune's light>stun breakgood but everyone's pvp trinket can now break a stun>alliance can't be undead or orcsyes but every player can choose to be horde
>>586190863Unfortunately Forever doesn't have that option (:
>>586189595>rogues still get jack shit
>>58619125610/10 post
>>586190908
laugh at rogues
all you fags with your melodrama over changes will still play come release
Why is every Restedxp and Journey shill so rabid with this fresh game? Not only did Blizzard leave things out of the beta, but we had like less than 35% of the leveling experience open to us. There are going to be so many new quests post 30 that there is no way the routing will be accurate for launch. It will probably still have all the vanilla "just go grind here" instructions.
>Unsealed WrathIs true seal twisting finally gone? This seems much less autistic than the earlier version.
>>586190908>all those ret paladin buffsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So this is how it ends
>>586189595>>586190954so feral druids just flat out lost like third of it's damage for... what exactly?we didn't gain any extra thread because we already had the talent, it was just unlocked earlier.we didn't get extra damage, in fact we lost huge chunk with removal or berserk alone?Was the aura change to all crit instead of melee and ranged really that OP?
>>586191637No, this is how it begins
>>586191595its still the best way to level and it will be updated for your alts
>>58619131830% seems insane
>>586191318doesnt really change anything, you dont take dmg if you get a kill, and in rotation it will just be instantly healed up with DP and VE up anyway
>>586189595
Don't roll RP PvP horde in 5 days, some of you are ok
>>586191256>two scoops>two terms>two capstonesDeal with it, liberal.
these changes are coolyou fags complain too much
Buff human spirit to 20%
>Twist of Light removedPRAISE
>>586189595Guess I'm not making a druid either.I'm unironically running out of classes here.
>Conviction: 3 ranks (was 5), 6% crit with all spells and attacks (was 5% melee). To be a ret paladin and get shit like this for free
They kill resto druids but won't let me roll a priest or pally skelf as a replacement, un fucking believable
>>586191471And warrs can go fuck themselves also.They were huwtin my pally, wyaahhh....
thank God they realized no one cared about shockadin memes
>>586191665Feral DPS is pretty much never getting a raidslot over Balance now
All these changes crammed in over the last 35 days when they've had 7 years to get it right lolThose mass layoffs can't come soon enough
>>586191886Im glad you enjoy the patches anon, this is but a small taste of whats to come.
>>586179469"refreshing citrus flavor" is the official taste
>>586191425Cute
>>586191318>>586191748Casting sw:d right after mind blast results in a 2000 damage nuke in pvp before crits are even considered It was way too good for the spec with the strongest dots and retarded amounts of lifestealYou'll still use it on cooldown on pve and heal it all back up anyways
>>586190908>Shadow Word: Death backlash: 30% of max health (was 10%). >me when death comes off cd and raid wide dmg is incoming
>>586191665I think the idea now is to try and set up Bites that always do max extra energy damage without actually draining energy, probably by pairing it with shifting power to cap energy out since just using that on shred seemed dumb, and have that supplement damage over time vs frontloading it into a 3 minute CD. I think Bear got hit a bit harder than Cat did, but losing Berserk is still overall concerning, and the aura changes are just kind of weird.
who won and who lost?
>>586192082they had to wait for their claud tokens to recover, they used all for Midnight
>>586191437>every player can choose to be hordeNot on PvP servers
>prot paladin can now use a 2h + shieldholy schmoly
>>586190908>No longer taught: Salvation, Mass SalvationThe fuck? So no more threat reduction buffs?
>>586192159>pvpno one cares about your reddit tournament minigame, we're talking about the actual game.
Why would you nerf druids right after they finally have relevancy in vanilla?
>>586192178>55% of max mana per cast>maybe max 2 uses before oomI don't see that happening
>Moved: Templar's Bulwark (row 5 to 3), Toughness (row 1 to 3), Improved Hammer of Justice, Sacred Duty, Improved Righteous Fury, Anticipation. kek holy chads we're winning bigly in pvp
>>586192186>wonhuntersthe only class that received nothing but straight buffs coming from vanilla>lostliterally everyone else
wow its almost as if druid is a hybrid class!
>>586191118wrack is complete trashzero builds uses it
why did SoD die?
>>586189595I was testing a lot of stuff with my Druid. Primal Bite is a huge nerf, but you can still swipe tank. Primal Bite was citing pretty hard for level 30. Resto was buffed with the 10% increases on HoTs and the moving of reflection is better because you can of regenerate mana without having to go deeper into Resto if you’re playing Feral. I had spirit stacked and I wasn’t even close to going OOM. Druids are A Tier now. Priests obviously are S Tier.
>>586192289Druid, Pally, and especially Shaman must always be shit. This is the true Classic experience.
I want to go Engineering and Mining until 60 then switch Mining to Enchanting.Should I hold on to every single green/blue armour piece I get? Should I send cheap BoEs I find to a bank alt? I look like this if it helps
>>586192359It's base mana, and scales off shape shifting reductions.
>>586192443
>>586192289druids can do like four roles so their hybrid tax is quadrupled
Im playing the long game. I believe in Druid.
>>586192513no lol
>>586192287pvp is the only reason why the game appeals to zoomers and gets 500k twitch viewers lil gup, blizzard will cater to them whether you like it or notyou are irrelevant
>>586192415They should make it easier for Druid to be a hybrid then and do all roles at once at the same time
>>586190756>>586190029STOP FUCKING LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HEROIC STRIKE IS A FINE CAPSTONE! PROBABLY!
>>586192579>>586192579>>586192579next>>586192579>>586192579>>586192579
>>586192443looks like it had an extremely stable population until they stopped making new content for it
>>586192178The thing about berserk was that it also gave fear immunity that was kinda fucking important for pvp
>>586192443Bet youll be able to overlay that with the Forever population eventually
>>586192443>the faint 2026 heart beats
>>586182976>untested new changesoh this is gonna go well
Druids are decent. Shamans are still ass.
>put Divine Intellect into Prot tree from Holy treegenuinely unforgivable change
>>586192178Sounds like a shit tradeoff but we'll see how it plays out not me tho fuck that shit
>>586192692they have testers geniusbeta is more of a stress test and bugfinding thing, they don't need a bunch of faggot redditors for balance decisions
>>586184502>level warlock to 60 in 3 weeks>it then gets nerfed by 20-40%i was telling my brother about this and its literally gonna happen.you're gonna level a class to 60 and then have blizzard pull the rug from under you.
>>586182976gift of the earthmother was pretty crazy output since you could get full scaling hots every 1s but that was one of the more exciting talent for resto. if they nerf it like that I wish they would restore the nature's grace/regrowth spec from vanilla.
>>586185972Thrown weapon bros we're back in the game.
>>586191051i need more webms like this one :3
>>586192287you realize raids will be balanced so women, brown people, and toddlers can complete them, right?
>>586187654True but that's unavoidable. Nobody would play Vanilla WoW difficulty and gearing. Kids want to clear Molten Core at level 58 in greens and pretend that's remotely close to Vanilla difficulty. And welfare epics from 10 man faceroll "raids.:
>>586187759I haven't subscribed WoW since 2009 and I'm coming back. This is going to be HUGE.
>>586192692It's not like any of the final talent tiers were tested anyway. In hindsight it seems like the beta was just another go at doing a SoD season.
>>586194824Classic wasn’t difficult. MC was cleared without a full raid, some sub-60 raiders and no world buffs at raid launch 4 weeks after reelase
>>586188520I ordered a new mouse. Logitech 502X because my Razer mouse doesn't have enough buttons. Otherwise nothing. I'm working all week and will be 20 levels behind by Sunday night.
>>5861850703sec casts have better coefficient than instant casts, the spell will heal much more now. It is basically going to be party invulnerability for a few seconds when you cast it now
>>586195287Sis i recommend corsair scimitar the program is a little ass but once you got it running the mouse is amazing
>>586195243I said vanilla you dumb faggot.Molten Core took 6 full months to get a world first clear, the longest ever time to clear any raid in WoW history.
>>586195861What the fuck do you need a 12 button mouse for to play Forever? Every class has 4 total buttons at 60
>>586195861I'm on Linux so I went Logitech.
>>586195940Don’t bother. The dumb zoomer doesn’t even know all the dungeons were revamped and made easier before AQ
>>586196017i was just trying to be nice sis it's a good mouse
>>586196098SAD!So as I said, today's players wouldn't tolerate vanilla WoW difficulty and gearing. Imagine if only a few percent of players could raid and less than 1% could get into Naxx and new Naxx tier raids.
>>586196313sis i think you underestimate new gen gamers but if they were sent back in time to actual vanilla and realized how limited knowledge was they wouldn't be able to handle that me sis thinks
>>586196435They’d be paralyzed at character creation over having to make a blind choice
>>586196514so true"scratches your nape" :3
What's everyone playing at launch? For me its undead spriest
There sure were a lot of druid trannies in these generals.
>>586196676Blizzard says I can’t play because I’m unbalanced
