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>News
Epoch Reborn has launched.
Conquest of Azeroth relaunched on Grimfall.
Ravencraft is updating their client version to 1.14.
OctoWow is releasing BWL on November 1st. It will be the 1.18 version of the raid.
Frostmourne launched on Whitemane.
Unreal Azeroth celebrates their second month of operation on Emberveil. https://emberveil.org/news/two-months-of-emberveil
Ascension is becoming its own MMO with all Blizzard IP removed.

>Released Servers
OctoWow - https://octowow.st (Turtle WoW, Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com (WotLK)

>Other Servers (Pending Blizzard C&D Shutdown)
Epoch Reborn - https://project-epoch.org/ (Vanilla+)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (PVE, Legion)
GrimfallWoW - https://www.grimfallwow.com/ (Classless, Conquest of Azeroth)
Ravencraft - https://ravencraft.io/ (Turtle WoW, Vanilla+)
Faebright - https://www.faebright.online (TBC on WotLK client, RP-PvE)
Whitemane - https://whitemane.gg/en (WotLK+, Cataclysm)
Maelstrom - https://maelstrom.millenium-servers.com (WotLK client, Vanilla-WotLK progressive)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en (PVE, WotLK progressive)
Firestorm - https://firestorm-servers.com/en/welcome (TWW, BFA funserver)
Triumvirate-WoW - https://triumvirate-wow.com (WotLK funserver)
Emberveil - https://emberveil.org (Vanilla, UE5)
Kronos V - https://www.kronos-wow.com (Vanilla PVP)

>Upcoming Servers
Everwood - https://discord.gg/sMdYZ5se8N (Turtle+)
Duskhaven - https://duskhaven.net
Wallcraft - https://www.wallcraft.org (Vanilla+)

>Chat Channels
/join DESU on any server to speak with fellow anons.

>Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<gulag> - Tauri, Evermoon, Alliance
<World Peace> Whitemane, Frostmourne, Crossfaction
<Weird Grey Dudes> - Grimfall, Sargeras (Crossfaction)

>Singleplayer WoW with bots, modding tutorials, /wpsg/ creations and more
https://pastebin.com/xG3yU0yx (embed)

>Previous thread
>>586252898
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>porn pic op
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So with all the new vibe coded games like Azeroth Survivors how long until we get a fully playable WoW porn game?
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>>586463405
as soon as we get some local LLMs worth shit
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>griefed op
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Great OP except you forgot to add <desu> and update the News. Maybe next time.
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<Branded> didn’t clear BWL.
Guess how far they got.
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>>586464837
died in UBRS trying to reach BWL
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<Branded> will kick Skinpeeler and Tandrok to normalize relations with /wpsg/
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>>586418352
>The Iron Hammers
I have a real life friend in that guild.
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>>586464837
Gonna bet they couldn’t figure out suppression room
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>Vim in Malygos HC
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>>586465150
Why would we kick Skinpeeler? Skinpeeler is our MT and everyone loves zer.
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>>586465026
>It's so obvious you're pretending to make it fit retroactively
NTA but for many of us CoA was it, the last fresh. we already played every version of the game on 30 different servers,
CoA was the freshest fresh, full of new shit nobody knew about. I wasn't even interested until close to to release because it looked like some bullshit halfbaked funserver, what I didn't realize was how they cooked new classes from scratch that was based on lore, played very fun and was much more unique than any class blizzard could ever conceive.
So as a result, <World Peace> was probably the most active /wpsg/ guild there ever was and ever will be, because all these people that played every version of vanilla came to see what was up and a many of them stayed for the whole ride. It was the most fun I've had since Nostalrius. New classes, new sub zones, new stories in the world, flex raids, heroic, mythic and ascended difficulties, It was amazing.
After it was shut down I was so heartbroken because I knew no other version of WoW private server or otherwise will give me that feeling again, but after seeing that many of the people from <World Peace> were playing on Frostie I couldn't help but join them because of how fun it was to play with them on CoA.
So It was the friends we made along the way I suppose...
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>>586466169
Nobody cates
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>>586465150
That’s so funny Caelwynn
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>>586466169
Hope you enjoyed our naxx runs so far
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>>586466169
Dead giveaway of a liar is that they always overexplain.
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>>586466583
Dead giveaway of a zoomer is that they never take the time to read anything sincere.
Go buzzword yourself my man
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>>586466624
There were no buzzwords in that post.
>sincere
>trying to gaslight
>muh zoomers after failing
Pathetic liar.
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>>586466583
This.
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>>586466169
CoA was a phenomenon. I was able to get people to play the game who swore to never play wow again since wotlk. Working class normalfag friends and relatives with kids wanted to pay me to show him how to play it (showed them for free of course).
It was like we all were discovering wow for the first time again. You can't buy such an experience from today's blizzard.
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>>586466754
CoA was slop.
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>>586466489
It's been fun so far, I just wish we had more people so we could do 25HC
But I suppose Wrath is not very popular with /wpsg/ and the timeline with tauri legion and wow forever made it a bit unappealing to invest into for people right now.
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>>586464837
Full clear. We’ll get a screenshot of Tandrok on the throne with Skinpeeler by his side as soon as they finish ERPing
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>>586467013
I'd play WotLK+, the issue is retail graphics.
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>>586466169
All this talk of CoA being the second coming of Jesus personally reminds me of WildStart, the greatest MMO to never be.
CoA would have suffered the same issues as any other custom server: sooner or later the game would have been solved and people would be non-stop complaining about terrible balancing. BUT since we never got to that point people look at CoA like the holy grail of MMOs. Just wait until the current interation of CoA is around for a year or longer and all the novelty will have gone for it as well
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>>586467118
>sooner or later the game would have been solved
If only you've seen the content cadence, bug fixes and class balancing of the devs, these dudes cooked like 10x faster than blizzard
No board to answer to, no big wigs to report to, only a team of (hopefully well paid) autists working around the clock.
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>>586467098
I hear you man, especially the dragons look goofy as fuck. I don't know why they didn't make that shit optional...
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>>586467056
>he doesn’t know
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>>586467260
That's the best outcome and we can argue back and forth on how likely that was going to happen because we can never actually see the reality it.
I'm basing my judgment mostly on bronzebeard which was a promising vanilla+ version which just fell flat due to bad endgame design and class balancing but I guess in the end we can only agree to disagree
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>>586467118
Wildstar was cool as fuck.
CoA was trash.
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>>586467960
>we can argue back and forth on how likely that was going to happen
A few anons in this general have a strange obsession with pretending hypotheticals are somehow reality.
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>>586467118
wildstar was reddit as fuck
coa was slop trash
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POCHIE WON
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<Branded> didn’t clear a single boss in BWL today.
Not one boss.
That’s how bad it’s gotten.
Thanks for destroying the guild Skinpeeler/Moonroar. You stupid piece of shit.
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All this glazing on <World Piss> when its been probably one of the worst wpsg guilds ever
I never had a problem with the erp trannies until you get one as your GM and they start giving preferential treatment to their erp partners
And on top of everything, all these trannies tend to be extremely autistic and socially stunted so they foster an atmosphere of negativity
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>>586468796
>one person
>glazing
Come on now. Also, we all know he's full of shit at this point, I don't know why he even tried to "correct the record" earlier. Anyway, just ignore him.
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We could've been all enjoying Nostrum right now...
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<World Peace> was good because people bullied trannies from the ruling positions, i was very happy when pearl and his handler gave up trying to take the guild from chuds and fucked off to retail
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>>586469116
World Peace was bad
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Isekai me into Mulgore please.
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>>586469116
That's true, there was <World Peace> ran by sensible people, and <World Piss> in Frostmourne, ran by power tripping trannies
Somehow one kept the numbers for 30m raids, the other has to pug for 10m
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>>586469116
That’s not what happened.
What happened is Schizokino came in, unmasked Pearl, and scared him off.
Fags in World Peace tried to defend Pearl.
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>>586468526
RIP IN PISS BRAINDEAD
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>>586469268
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>>586469265
cows
are cute
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>uffie only just realized WP is a dogwhistle
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>"workday"(read: cowdung harvesting) ends in india
>cow posting begins
noticing
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this is what world piss was named after for all future reference
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>>586469316
i was the one who outed pearl, i don't like schizokino either, he was a bitter tranny chaser rejected by pearl - i don't like anyone who was in <not in op>
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>FULL MOON COMPANY WAS SUCH A GOOD NAME GUYS IT TOTALLY SOUNDS LIKE A REAL GUILD
>full moon
>the reference was worgen
>Rutt
it was a fetish name
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>>586475004
why do you spend all your time in here trying to gaslight
everyone already knows you're lying so what's the point?
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>>586475106
everyone knows it's true
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>>586475004
this is because /wpsg/ loves zoophilia and they all have assworms that crawled into their brains and started overwriting their sense of reality. pearl can control the worms by utilizing his dog dildo
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<Full Moon Company> was the best /wpsg/ guild name and the best /wpsg/ guild.
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>>586475458
>best /heals/ guild
FTFY
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<Dindus of Nuffin> was the best /wpsg/ guild name and the best /wpsg/ guild.
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>world peace
>named after a sam hyde show that flopped
>guild flops
ironic
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<Khazar Milkers> wasn't the best /wpsg/ guild name, but it WAS the best /wpsg/ guild.
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>>586475613
>flopped
didn't, it got renewed for a S2
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>>586475526
<Full Moon Company> was a /turtleg/ guild.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/471249330/#q471526590
There's where they came up with the name.
But /turtleg/ merged with this thread so the point is moot.
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>>586475613
We're one of the only 2 guilds currently clearing end game content though. Meanwhile 5+ fresh wpsg guilds have died in the short time we've existed. Really makes you think.
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>>586475784
>being a little cheeky
what is full moon company a reference to?
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>>586475784
pearl killed cats eye drama club by manufacturing so much drama and spreading so much erp shit the gm disbanded so he could make it
same thing pearl and uffie(michelada) tried to do with coa world peace
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>>586475834
Your guild doesn't clear end game content though. You pug it because your guild flopped.
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>>586475893
>same thing pearl and uffie(michelada) tried to do with coa world peace
Sounds like they were successful since <World Peace> currently can't fill raids with anons and has to resort to pugging.
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>>586475898
We have two 10 mans clearing every week that are only anons
We do pug 25 mans but that doesn't invalidate the fact we clear every week without any pugs
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>>586475972
frostmourne world peace is not affiliated with coa world peace and exists as a spite guild
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>>586459275
>I'm unaware of how "World Peace" has anything to do with Sam Hyde
UFFIE NOOOOOO
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>>586476002
10 mans aren't real raids though.
You went from having to split 60 anons between two raid groups to not being able to fill one raid group.
Sad.
Pathetic.
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Which are the ERP private servers?
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>>586476104
except coa raids were minimum scaling 10 people each because michelada is a tranny and was too stubborn to be in the same raid as xarethos and thus cried to split 24/7 then played during both raid times anyway
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>>586476104
Why is it not a real raid? We're clearing it on heroic too.
What is a "real raid" in your mind? The one with the most people in it? So a LFR raid tier raid with 60 people is more of a real raid in your mind than a heroic tier 10 man? I'm just trying to understand the reasoning here.
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>>586295562
My dear <wpsg> anons.

This is to remind our little community that Quh (also known as Sovl, Grok and Cuckbeard) was stripped of all rank and status.
It was determined that the individual in question frequently engaged in disruptive behaviors, including playing other games (Ace Combat 7 and WoW Whitemane) via alt-tab during raids, experiencing frequent distractions due to ADHD, and abandoning the team mid-raid.
Effective immediately, Quh (also known as Sovl or Grok) is nothing but a FILTHY NIGGER.
Sincerely,
The Shadow Council of <gulag>.
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>>586476104
>You went from having to split 60 anons between two raid groups to not being able to fill one raid group.
>Comparing CoA to WoTLK+
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>>586476172
azerothica
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>>586476104
10 man has more personal responsibility
25 man you can get carried by a core of 10 people
40 man you can go take a nap and you won't be missed
If anything it's the opposite...
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>>586476263
I'm comparing good leadership to bad leadership.
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>>586476207
>>586476341
A raid is a large group and 10 isn't a large group.
You have more personal responsibility in a five man but it doesn't make five mans "raids."
One of the challenges of raids is that you have to gather and organize a bunch of players together. 10 isn't a lot.
And yes a pug of 40 or 60 or whatever number greater than 20 players is more of a raid than a guild doing a dungeon run with 10 people.
Guilds run UBRS with 10 men and those aren't raids.
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>>586468796
>preferential treatment
>huntard troonslayer stole all the good loot
:^)
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>we clear multiple 10 man with anons!!
>look inside
>it's the same 5 erp tranny clique members giving all the loot to each other on their alts
nah, fuck off
raiding with an alt is the same as raiding with a pug
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Whatever your "definition" of raid is, going from 60 anon raiders to 10 or less is a failure.
If you have to resort to raiding with normalfag pugs that's a failure.
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>>586476357
The leadership is the exact same.
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>>586476474
>A raid is a large group and 10 isn't a large group.
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Erm chuddy my 4th alt should have priority over you because what if some day I want to play a different class? Ever think about that?
You're not entitled to loot (I am though)
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uh oh meltie
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>got 2 pieces of loot
:)
>had to play with trannies and sodomites
:(
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>>586476474
UBRS by literal in-game definition is a raid though.
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>>586476485
>seething octotroon
TRVMP VVON
World Peace vvonned
ywnbaw btw
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>>586476485
>everything free rolled since day 1 with no consideration for spec or class
>it's the same 5 erp tranny clique members giving all the loot to each other on their alts
Why are you lying?
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THE ONLY VALID RAID IS A 40M LOOT PINATA.
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>>586476485
i noticed this too
saw one of them roll on something and another one somehow ended up with that item too so they're even trading shit amongst themselves now and stealing shit from others
i don't know why people allow this
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>>586476732
Maybe some stuff shouldn't be free rolled to alts and people in greens who come for one raid and then never again
Basic leadership would know this
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>>586476813
>come to raid prepared and contribute as much as everybody else if not more
>b-but it's an alt! you do not deserve loot!
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>UBRS is a raid
>also Gnomeregan is a raid because it can be 10 manned
When everything is a raid, nothing is a raid.
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You guys sure jump through a lot of hoops to spend your time seething about people that you don't like easily clearing content that you aren't able to.
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>comes to a wotlk raid in full greens
why do you think you deserve loot??? this isn't vanilla where epics and blues are actually rare and need grinding
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>>586476925
Gnomeregan definitely looks like a raid, you could easily tune it for 10 man
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>>586476996
But a 10 man isn't a real raid.
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>>586477029
According to Blizzard, it is.
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>>586476965
>NOOOOO!! YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO GET UPGRADES THAT LARGE!! YOU MUST FARM THINGS ONLY MARGINALLY WORSE THAN WHAT YOURE ROLLING FOR...JUST BECAUSE ICYVEINS PREBIS SAYS SO!!!
Cattle.
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>>586476965
nigger stop parroting shit from a whole ass month ago
nobody has greens now even on alts
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What happened to the other 50 anons that used to raid with you?
Why did 83.333% of the guild up and quit?
Where did they go?
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>first time doing wotlk naxx
>anons actually explain things
>clear the whole raid
>get insane roll luck
I like the guild
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>>586477110
both our raids had no new players
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>>586477071
>you must farm things
yes, you are one of only 10 people in the raid. stop sandbagging and get to work.
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>>586477108
>>586466169
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>>586477063
Blizzard didn't invent the term "raid" though. Not even in an MMO sense. Raids are large scale. 10 mans are small scale. 10 mans are not raids.
Recruit more anons.
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>>586477108
Thousands of people played on Turtle too, where did those go? Why are they not on Raven and Octo?
By the end of CoA we barely had 25 as well. If you want to have a discussion about attrition it seems a bit disingenuous to not bring up the fact that this has been the fate for literally every single anon guild in the past.
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>>586477185
That's one.
How about the other 49?
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>>586477162
>he doesn't know
:^)
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now if i fuck this model
and she just bleached her asshole
and i get bleach on my t-shirt
imma feel like an asshole
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10 people is not a raid
Is 11 people a raid? 12? When does it begin?
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>>586477205
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>>586477371
Alterac Valley is a raid by that anon's definition simply because big number means raid
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>>586477284
It's so unbearable having to spoonfeed every single sentence to zoomers with attention span of a small puppy
>NTA but for many of us CoA was it, the last fresh. we already played every version of the game on 30 different servers
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>>586477413
WE DON'T DO 40MANS IN GERMANY
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>>586477371
However many world piss manages to get together + 1
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>>586477258
>"we are the most successful /wpsg/ guild of all time"
>"actually we are just like every /wpsg/ guild where we fell apart over time"
Ok but why? Why did your guild fall apart and fail? Why can't you muster 25 anons now if you had 25 before? If you want to discuss this then discuss it. Quit avoiding the question.
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this is a raid according to 'nillers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt-GMnX_q_Q
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>>586477482
Your first two statements aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>586477442
But that anon only speaks for himself, so that's only 1.
What about the other 49?
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why is this guy seething so hard at world peace kek
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>>586477551
Gone nigga gone, who the fuck wants to play with autistic drama mongering ritualposting retards like
>>586477482
for the 50th time?
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>grok baits everyone once again
based, retards will argue about muh raid size for 2 hours
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>>586477530
They are because your guild failed. At best you "were" the greatest guild but even that's debatable. Sounds more like you had the best opportunity and you fumbled it by going from 60 raiders to 25 raiders to 10 raider. You had the golden ticket and you fucked it up.
Or so I assume. You still don't want to answer the question and discuss why the guild failed.
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>>586477623
>Sounds more like
>Or so I assume
So you weren't even a part of it? Why do you hold such strong opinions on it then? I'm curious.
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>>586477567
>psz
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>>586477704
Hi Uffie
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>what happened?
20+ people fell for the Ravencraft meme and then CoA announced the shutdown.
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>>586477719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZMWVoeqEs
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>If you don't take personal responsibility for 40+ people and ensure every single one of those 40+ people continue playing regardless of the server shutting down then your guild is a failure
You can't genuinely believe this.
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>>586477704
Obviously I wasn't there which is why I keep asking what the fuck happened. I keep asking "what happened" and you won't give me a straight answer. That leads me to assume that the answer embarrasses you.
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>>586477842
>>586477597
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>>586477842
CoA shut down. The server is no longer online.
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>>586477719
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It's stupid to compare Coa guild numbers with the Frostmourne one, just because they share the same name doesn't mean its the same guild
There's a different GM and its a different expansion
What should be mentioned is why did the frostmourne guild go from having 23 sign ups on their first day of raids, to having to pug 10 mans
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>>586477895
But new servers are up. There are new CoA servers. World Peace is on a new server. So why did so few follow? And why did so many quit before the server died? Because I was told it went from 60 to 25.
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>>586477928
If you ever played T7 you would know the answer to this question
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I have evidence that singed420 fresh hops with /wpsg/.
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>most successful /wpsg/ guild
You guys couldn't keep it together for a month without the guild unraveling
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>>586477963
So you have been linked to an explanation earlier in the thread already. Why exactly are you continuing this? It's seems like instead of actually wanting an answer to the question, you are instead leading some personal crusade against that particular guild.

So now I ask you, after already having answered your question multiple times, what's your issue with World Peace? Is there someone in particular that has made you act this way?
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I ERPed with Xarethos.
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>>586478054
Was <World Peace> even a /wpsg/ guild? Most of the anons weren't from /wpsg/.
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Grok/Sovl is darkwinjax btw
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>>586478136
Niggers are just throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks now, holy shit
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>it's another "guild from wpsg isn't an anon guild because I say so" episode
boring
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>>586478105
My only issue is you haven't answered my question. I ask you what happened and you avoid my question over and over and over. Now you're deflecting to some other anon. But again, he only speaks for himself, not the other 49 anons.
Look, if you're too ashamed to answer, just stop replying. We're going in circles where I ask you a question and you evade, but I keep asking anyways.
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>asks question
>gets answer
>noo it's not the answer i want!
>asks question again
literal toddlers in this thread
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>>586478167
he's opshaco. darkwinjax is the gulag gm
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>>586478181
Most of the guild was from /wowcg/.
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>>586478293
Why would I be responsible for 49 other anons? You say it's not valid for me to speak for another anon but then you want me to speak for 49 other anons. How does that make sense?
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I've had it with millennials in /wpsg/ you are the worst posters here. you guys are supposed to have a family to take care of and not gossip here like a bunch of bitches
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It's really not that hard to manage a /wpsg/ guild, a french mouth-breather that had never played wow before managed to do it, and the guild raided without drama or any issue
Why can't the trannies do it
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>ask a question
>get no answer
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>>586478020
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>>586478395
You could try answering my question before asking me more questions.
If you can't don't bother to reply.
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>>586478415
You're alright zoomerbro.
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Grok doesn't even use 4chan. He was recruited from world chat.
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>>586478550
I really hope that hope one day an anon gives you whatever nebulous answer that will satisfy you. Unfortunately I'm not a mind reader.
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>Uffie takes my bait over and over again
thanks for the free (You)s
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>>586478628
What happened to the other 49 anons who quit?
Answer in your own words to the best of your ability. If you can't, don't reply.
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What happened to the anons who quit? Tell me.
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Where are you hiding the 49 anons Uffie!?
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>>586478845
I've sent out communications to all 50 anons. Once I hear a response from them, I will let you know. We'll get to the bottom of this together.
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>ask anon a simple question of why anons quit
>he can't even give an answer
Did you murder them? Is that the reason for this cover up?
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World Peace failed harder than any /wpsg/ guild ever by losing 83.333% of their raiders. Some are saying Uffie enacted a genocide and there's a cover-up. The Anoncaust didn't happen? The UN is investigating.
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I was just following orders.
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World Peace propaganda division working overtime, huh.
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>>586478943
>>586479094
>>586479162
>>586479239
>>586479294
mental illness
ywnbaw
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>>586479294
it's better staffed than the raiding division
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>>586479383
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Are priests/dk needed on frostmane?
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>>586479471
shamans
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>>586478415
>family
You are expecting too much lil bro, most people that post here haven't seen a woman naked outside of porn
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>>586478717
For me I haven't join WP2 because WP1 was shit
COA attracted a lot of anons but WP1 pushed them away with a lot of retarded drama and mismanagement but overall it was just the typical anons acting like massive faggots
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I quit WoW and you all sound retarded now arguing about which tranny guild is worse
you are all trannies and faggots lmao
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>>586473837
You should've noticed that it was past 9, the time when my neet ass crawls out from bed.
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>>586479762
>a lot of retarded drama and mismanagement
such as?
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>ANSWER MY QUESTION
>2x10 man IS NOT A RAID
>83.333% LEFT
>WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE WHO LEFT
>ANSWER IT
>IT'S MA'AM
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Guild for me?
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>>586479807
Finally we're getting to the bottom of things.
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>>586479807
post moar
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i have aids and assworms
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>>586479774
>I quit WoW
But you couldn't quit me. You brokeback bitch.
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>>586479807
IT'S SMALL LEAVE ME ALONE
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>>586480016
Thank you for your honesty, Gadoosh
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>guild full of troons
>"BUT WHY DID IT FAIL?"
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>>586479774
What's so sensual about this Alex guy anyway?
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How many guilds in /wpsg/ history have ACTUALLY just mutually disbanded with goodwill?
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>>586480108
But It didn't. It went strong until the day the server closed.
So maybe it wasn't a tranny guild afterall.
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>>586480141
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>>586476474
My original wow guild had a dkp system for ubrs
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I will carry the names of those 49 anons in my heart for as long as I live.
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>>586480193
>How many guilds in WoW history have ACTUALLY just mutually disbanded with goodwill?
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REMEMBER THE 49
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FORTY
NINE
ANONS
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troons can function in guilds, even when they're the majority, but they must be cowed
the CoA guild had a strong leadership so they bent the knee
but now the looneys are running the asylum
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>>586480319
That's a bit outside scope, but I'm sure it's a valid question too
I was asking about just /wpsg/
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Uffie... will you marry me
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Imagine having so many anons interested in your server and joining your guild, more anons than any other /wpsg/ ever had at one time, and then squandering that opportunity and losing everything after a raid or two.

The story of <World Peace> is a story of the most failed guild in /wpsg/ history.
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Remember the 49.


Rest In <World Peace>.
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>>586480469
she can't talk rn lil bro, she's got my dick in her mouth
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>>586480410
dw I was just making a joke
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STDs are not discovered by those who want them, but given to those who chase trannies.
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>>586468796
>they foster an atmosphere of negativity
>the only "conflicts" so far came from lootwhores and parsers
These trannies are alright in my book so far
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>>586480549
Nooo....
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i believe trannies are real women because only foids would be retarded enough to want to be foids
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>some anon (uffie) licks world piss butthole saying how great it is
>multiple anons come out of the woodwork to take a shit on world piss
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>>586480768
>they foster an atmosphere of negativity
what negativity? we're a melting pot of friendship
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>>586481097
it's fun to shit on a trannys delusions
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>>586481053
anon is so reassuring!
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>>586480383
Trannies actually think this and then spend all day making up lies about (You) until you and your friends quit the guild
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>anons with a different opinion than are samefags
>anons thinking the same as me are at least 49 different anons (and definitely not me btw)
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>>586481304
Well yes, why shouldn't spread vile rumors about my enemies?
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>this thread
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>>586481493
It's not even a real discussion, it's just falseflagging
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i hold no positive or negative opinions towards world peace as the gm told me i am on thin ice when i joined
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>>586481635
pallenine?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3fHWl6hiFE
Trying to interact with this thread POV
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>>586481685
yes
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>>586481214
Read the post I'm replying to you double iranian
Also where the fuck is the warr gnome? It's been a while since I've seen him in raid
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pochie pals are winning
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>>586481867
your dps is in the gutter so he decided it's not worth it
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>>586481867
he effectively left us for his own normie guild because uffie chose theodorian
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>>586481889
They're keeping the server comfy levels at máximum until forever Crash and burns withing a month
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>>586480085
Catbox down again...
https://d.uguu.se/wyckKDve.jpg
https://d.uguu.se/DewMSKtU.jpg
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>>586481947
I'll do better DPS once I replace all these blues
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>>586482109
Wait it was you all along? Holy shit
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>>586482109
>Catbox down again...
good, it wasn't working for me in the past week anyway
also sexo
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>>586477110
>first time doing wotlk endgame
>a week too late
>25nm is over its all 10hc now
>dont even bother to join guild or pug
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>>586481951
If this is true he might end up costing up 2 players down the line
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>>586482109
>Moonkiss and Uffie
h-hot
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i'm probably gonna quit soon too. don't care about any drams or shit but those raids are just a pain to tank in
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>>586482378
possibly even more
chalk it up to uffie being a relentless softie
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>>586482339
25man this friday
Come spin the wheel on braindead pugs with us!
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>>586482441
he has the fucking energy to whine in my fucking whispers nonstop about his dogshit comfy environment and how i'm disturbing it but he won't do shit over the retarded dps as long as they can get their tranny flirting in DURING THE FUCKINF RAIDS. fuck you uffie, you will never be a woman and i feel bad over thinking you were the man back on tauri
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>>586482706
>he won't do shit over the retarded dps
Name 3
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It's kind of ironic that the trannies are the best performing players in the guild thoughoverbeit.
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>>586482792
FROM YESTERDAYS RAID
VIMDIESEL
THEODORIAN
STEELFURY
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>>586482706
Cheer up grumpy
/e licks you
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>>586482904
What did they do?
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>>586482904
All my friends :)
I like seeing them every week
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>>586482982
latter two did bottom dps while catfighting the entire raid and vim kept talking about bibisi with frightnight
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>>586482904
Okay now name the 3 cutest ones
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>>586483098
none of you are cute when i consider the fact that you're all almost 30 and should be working and raising your kids
https://h.uguu.se/JNmnOyRC.mp4
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this really sucks. its so much harder to shitpost and falseflag 10 man raid groups because its almost immediately obvious who it is
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why is he like this?
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>>586483061
>vim kept talking about bibisi with frightnight
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>>586483209
say my name.
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>>586482982
>Theo doesn' buff properly
>Steel bitches about It constantly
>Theo keeps fucking with him and BoP at the start of a boss fight
>Steel crashes out midfight
I don't know if they were catfighting in whispers or something but it's the second time theo has started shit with another player. Also some loot drama about paladins rolling on armor pen
No idea about vim, I guess he has very inconsistent DPS while having a legendary and likes to show up in fucking MM spec for no good reason
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>wpsg guild
>refuse to use discord
>all the mechanics are explained in raid chat instead
>pull the boss
>wipe because multiple people fuck up
>all ask after the wipe what they were supposed to do
whats the fucking point in even explaining if people arent going to read shit
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>>586479471
Uhdk is always needed I dont think anyone is playing one at the moment
Bonus good goy points if you build a tank OS
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>>586483468
'cept we oneshot all except heigan
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>>586483457
>Theo keeps fucking with him and BoP at the start of a boss fight
fucking based lmao
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>>586483457
>paladins rolling on armor pen
fucking WHAT
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>>586483538
>loses roll on 2 motes and trolls for the rest of the raid
le heckin based theo indeed
he was a sad salty lootwhore on coa he still is now
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>>586483457
>Theo doesn' buff properly
>Theo keeps fucking with him and BoP at the start of a boss fight
This is so common coming from paladins i don't even bother to question it
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>namedrops me for no reason
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>>586483538
I, Theodorian, will protect you from the boss hits.
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>>586483714
I still find it hilarious that our paladins are so poor that they can't even use 30 minute blessings.
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i mean he kept crying (literally, crying) that he needed a blessing so theo gave him a blessing of protection, whats wrong with that
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>>586483206
Not everyone's lucky enough to have a family
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Just dont join the raid if the T-word is there, its that simple
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>>586482706
>t. Palleine
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>>586483791
Uhm, aschually, they're called hands in wrathy for bop, freedom and sacrifice
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>>586462960
<OwO> Ravencraft, Medivh, Crossfaction
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>>586482706
>shy twofaced nigger needs anonymity to went about raid stuff & post bait, even though he could've just whisped the "offenders"/ call them out in gchat
retarded nigger, just leave the guild atp
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>>586484230
lucky you, i gquit and joined <fm season six> after writing that post
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>>586484103
you're a regular guild on a regular server nothing wrong with this
but why you're tryharding so much to be deemed as /wpsg/ one?
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<World Peace> used Misdirect on <OwO>
It was super effective!
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>>586484316
Sure you did, see you next raid!
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If you want to have a hard-ass serious business guild, then you have to be consistent about it. No more people showing up in blue/green gear, or people skipping mechanics causing wipes, no more free rolling for all gear and for legendaries. If you're not going to do that, then you can't complain about people having fun messing around, because you've clearly established that this is not a serious raiding enviroment, and then you can't complain when it doesn't even result in any wipes at all.
That one warrior that cried about people not buffing him last raid, he didn't use his own attack power buff even once, resulting in paladins having to switch around their blessings to cover it, when they could have used other buffs. Its just beyond childish to behave this way.
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>>586484715
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why are night elf players like that? there's a good chance when you run into a scummy player or see a screenshot of the most vile disgusting erptroon smut ever it's a nelf. is it because night elves attracted the type of millennial who liked drow because they're both dark skinned elves? maybe grasping at straws with that theory. it can't just be because they're brown.
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If you have more than 2 paladins then warriors use command and even with a single paladin they should use command and cover kings with drums
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>>586463405
How would a WoW h game even work? Fucking mobs instead of fighting them? Or would it be like those games where you lose to the mobs on purpose and then they have their way with you?
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>>586485078
same
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>>586485053
you rape other players and give them a pregnancy debuff
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>>586484715
i aint reading allat cuh
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>>586485135
>Mpregging all the sexy male tauren
SIGN ME UP
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>>586485053
Both
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What are we maining in Forever bros?
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>>586484703
no, but good luck
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>>586485078
sure buddy
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POCHIE
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>>586485053
>lose to the mobs on purpose
on purpose?
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>>586485312
>>586485312
High Elf paladin on the Forever pserver that will replace Skytroons with High Elves
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>>586485358
cheers m8
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>>586485568
no problem
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why is he trying to ragebait a pole
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>>586486094
he thinks it's pellaine
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>>586486224
it is
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What went wrong?
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>>586486094
It worked, he isn't spamming muh 10 man raid, muh world piss bad anymore
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>>586486284
i made two of the world piss posts
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a raid is 2 parties fighting bosses
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CoAnons should come play on Conquest of Azerothcore.
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>>586486284
Are you still seething?
Why?
Answer my questions or don't reply.
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>>586486273
It's because of zeze.
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>>586486284
WHERE DID THE OTHER FOURTY NINE RAIDERS GO
ANSWER IT
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>>586486458
hmmm.... nyo!
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>>586486472
because he's upset, it's good to be passionate about something
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>another week of cancelled world piss raids
So I leveled up for nothing, cool.
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>>586482478
So far the raids have been largely drama-free, with a few exceptions I've already discussed with those relevant to them
If that doesn't do it I'll try something else, but for now I'm just paying more attention to these things
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This man, Pellaine, is fighting his own war and he has no rules. No boundaries. He doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking, or genocide. He's not loyal to a flag or country or any set of ideals. He trades blood for money. He's your new best friend. You don't want to know what it's cost already to put you next to him. It will cost you a piece of yourself. It will cost nothing compared to everything you'll save.
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>theo getting yelled at to install pally power because he is too stupid to know what buffs to use
i love wpsg, some things really never change
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>>586486472
>>586486523
>Jahy falseflag
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the two anons currently online in the frostmourne guild are maddie and starfury
judging from the theo debacle i assume it's starfury raging
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Theo is a dom top. I have a screenie with him that I will never post.
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>>586486909
erp status?
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majestic landscape
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>>586487091
forever fixed this. not that you poorfags would know
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>>586484715
>one guy not buffing someone over losing roll on his precious legendary item is the same as the other guy not buffing when they already have the same buff from another source with superior duration
you could just stop being an autistic piece of shit and whisper but you chose to post it on the thread well over 12 hours later instead, but you don't really care about that 1 hunter that could have gotten blessing of wisdom
>>586486909
>>586483692
this is me
the others are probably palle and/or some other guy just stirring shit
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>>586486273
OH NO NO NO
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>>586486909
>you can only shitpost in the thread if you are currently online in World of Warcraft
Anon, I...
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>>586467013
uffie doesn't like raiding with the core team... It's over...
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>>586487184
thanks, but I did not ask.
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>>586487071
I can confirm this
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>>586486673
2001 - To start Pellaine's reign of terror off, Schizokino ordered Pellaine to bomb a Moscow city bus. The mission succeeded with 29 people killed and 19 injured.
2001 - The bombing of Piccadilly Circus by using a modified London Underground train filled with explosives by killing or wounding 407.
2001 - The massacre of the GUM department store in Moscow. 87 are dead or wounded.
2002 - The hijacking of a Greek oil tanker in the Mediterranean Sea. The Hellenic Navy boarding party along with the two crew members are killed or wounded before the $3 million ransom was paid.
2002 - The murder of the three Russian infantry soldiers.
2002 - The $1.5 million was stolen from a ZBV bank.
2004 - Robbed a HBS bank in Istanbul, Turkey.
2004 - The abduction of the 15 college students from Russia. The five students are killed or wounded.
2004 - The bombing of the two embassies in Africa. 28 are dead and 48 are injured.
2005 - The hold-up of an armored truck in Moscow and stole the three million rubles (Approx. $100K). The three security guards are dead or wounded.
2005 - The hijacking of the cruise ship in the Baltic Sea and tortured the U.S. passengers until the $5 million ransom was paid.
2006 - Robbed the Russian State Postal and Banking Service Depot of the 32 million rubles (Approx. $1.2 million).
2006 - The murder of a famous tank named Johntankman.
2006 - The murder of the three US airmen that are based in Turkmenistan.
2006 - Helped coordinate the attacks by Janjaweed militias and Sudanese military against the rebels. Implicated in human rights abuse.
2007 - The capture and beheading of the Mossad attaché to Ukraine who was investigating Pellaine's links to the Islamic extremists.
2007 - The assassination of a Pakistani guild leader named Gadoosh.
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>>586487191
>but you don't really care about that 1 hunter that could have gotten blessing of wisdom
oh I didn't notice that either lmao
he's insignificant
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i'm not in world piss because >wotlk but if they're really random rolling legendaries then its just not a serious guild and all discussion about buffs or shenanigans goes out the window
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she tryna fuck in japan
i put da bop on da warrior
nigga heil hitler
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>>586487774
>its just not a serious guild
its a wpsg guild
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>>586487191
>>586487294
>>586487297
These are my posts t. Dorow
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>>586486646
This has never happened by the way
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>>586482904
I love these guys
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>>586486273
>guy named meradith with a tranime avatar and a purple role is calling shots
a sane man leaves the instant he sees something like this
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>>586487774
we group looted legendaries on coa and we cleared mythic & ascended
we're group looting legendaries on frostie and clearing hc t7 aswell
what do you want us to do speedrun? what will satisfy you?
if you want 25 man tell these faggots to roll a shaman or something on frostie, or better yet roll another hunter, both of our hunters already got their legendary guns so a warrior got the 3rd drop
we didn't even have bloodlust last night, still cleared it all
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>>586488294
>& ascended
uhhhh, when was this?
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>>586487774
It's a /vg/ guild on a fun p2w server, what do you expect?
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>>586487307
I do enjoy raiding a lot, that wasn't me
25-man guild runs could be fun indeed but I would be surprised if we have 25 /wpsg/ anons that still care about >Wrath
One alternative could be to replace one of the weekend raids with a 25HC tour with us and vetted puggers.

For now, I'll host another Naxx 25HC on Friday, please signup in the calendar if you want to come (I'll start forming the raid ahead of time to do proper gear inspection).
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>>586488294
>first post by an actual raid teammate
<3
disregard 100+ posts of bait, probably an octotroon
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>>586487774
I think motes should go to whoever has more motes at that moment but usually we only raid with 1 or 2 mote users anyway. If you fags can't talk it out you reserve the drama
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>>586487664
>oh I didn't notice that either lmao
because it didn't happen. he was getting kings+wisdom until warriors had a melty about not wanting to do battle shout, then he started getting bok+might but no wisdom
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>>586488294
whats the problem with theo messing around then
get your story straight
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>>586488440
ya I'd like one of the 10 man raids to go so we aren't raiding 3 days in a row desu but w/e works for people

>>586488451
just don't give it to paladins

anyway this doesn't matter, the guild will fall apart once maddie reaches their 10th alt and can just do a raid all on their own
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Wrath is poopoo
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why do trannies refer to eachother as they? they are a he
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>>586488839
they has been a valid gender neutral pronoun for centuries
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>>586488839

I inhabit the world of world of warcraft. It is my life and blood. I do not differentiate between the real and the unreal. The character is the persona is the human behind the glass. I am above in the tower. I I am above in the tower. I am above in the tower. I am above in the tower. I am above in the tower.
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>>586488839
>>586488945
I'm talking about multiple people, that's why
>t. ESL
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The motes should go to me
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>>586488996
>once maddie reaches their 10th alt
maddie is a man that is nearing 30 years old
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>>586486909
Is he still using the barefeet transmog?
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>>586489053
>nearing 30 years old
mmmmmm..... nyo!
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>guild full of trannies fall apart from gay drama
Glad I quit <Troon Peace>.
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>>586489053
got any proof on that, sis?
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>>586489053
Who the fuck cares
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log in faggot
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>>586489187
>>586489221
>>586489291
>Maddie defence force
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>>586489393
dude has 8 alts so its most likely all him
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>>586489393
maddie's 90% of the guild
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I think you understand that some people aren't fine with the gender they were artifically assigned at birth, and it's important for us to respect it.
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>>586486273
Fake and gay
We cleared BWL no problem
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>>586489482
IF YOU GIGAQUOTE THIS YOU GO TO HELL!
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I hate that performative sweetness some trannies put on after they've had a disagreement with someone. Don't they realize that shit doesn't work on anyone over the age of 16?
>I fucking HATE anon. I hope they get tortured to death and BOIL IN HELL for misgendering me
>Oh haha, you're so funny! I'm just a friendly girl, I don't have a problem with anyone!
>Haha, we're all friends here, right? We can get along!! Except with that MISERABLE FUCK HE SHOULD FUCKING DIE, HOW DARE HE CALL ME SIR
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>>586489493
Where did you hide the 38 pugs?
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>>586488286
Why did he choose a grandma name like Meradith?
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>>586489553
this all definitely happened
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I think you understand that some people aren't fine with the gender they were artifically assigned at birth, and it's important for us to respect it.
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>>586489562
>pugs
pups
It's Rutt
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>>586488752
I'll do a poll and post it in the MOTD
I'm still a fan of doing these on Friday to avoid leaving Sunday (or Saturday) raiders up to their luck instead of doing 10HC as a guild

>>586489208
The schizos got upset for some unknown reason and are going at it
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>>586488440
Might not make it to the 25man on friday, if my bros are aviable to play forever.
I hope It goes well and I can bench my alt, raiding with 2 classes is fun and all but I'm a peabrained boomer and can't handle learning strats for tank, melee and ranged
Should have listened to Uffie and go main spec tank for ez raiding
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>>586489393
I'm not even defending them, why do you care if an anon is a man or a woman, you should just assume by default that everyone's a man
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That’s it, I’m adopting a new identity.
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>>586489482
u can tell what everyone wishes by the character they play

some want to be girls
Someone like palle wants to be a tall, beautiful Scandinavian

someone like bing wants to be called a miserable fag

it's all so transparent
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>>586489717
Maddie --> Baddie
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>>586489562
Anon that's a pic from Turtle...
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>>586489680
I'll do my best to show up!!
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Where is Yeben playing?
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Please stop reinforcing and enabling the fantasies of middle aged fail males. They need our help.
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>>586489493
Old pic.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/561301519/#q561301519
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Trvmp status?
Vimdiesel != actual Trvmp
it's an imposter
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>>586489493
>using months old pics from a dead server to try to pretend you cleared bwl yesterday
That's really lame of you Tandrok.
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I miss CoA
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>>586490114
>LOOK! MANDATORY FUN!
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>hunter: Kisses'You
>pet: Knot
YIKES
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>>586490114
maddie is pearl by the way but people arent ready for that trvth nvke
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>>586489873
jestem na warmanie lordaeronie teraz kręcę pugi icc na death knajcie
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n-no comment...
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>>586489594
idk. maybe it has something to do with them being old and/or fatherless chris-chans raised by their grandparents.
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what are the current guilds from here on epoch reborn? might start a new char there in a bit
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>>586488839
>Somebody calls another they
>Nobody cares
>Call somebody with a fem avatar a she once by mistake
>Whole guild points and laughs at me
Don't listen to frostie posters, world peace is full of meanies
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>>586490476
>guilds
>plural
uhhhhh
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>>586490215
what's your fucking problem?
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>>586490526
I mean technically there is two. Even if that explorer's contract guild is almost dead.
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>>586490526
uhhhh
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>>586490518
but I thought world peace is full of trannies? which one is it?
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>theo can't buff right
>but at least he can raid
Theo W
Tandrok L
Branded L
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Theo will always be the rape victim.
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>>586490756
which one is that? any requirements?
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>>586490334
nyo comment
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>>586486273
What causes the male to fail?
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can someone give me a qrd on the trannies in world peace? how bad is it
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>>586491095
ugh its like.......
really bad sis
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>>586490476
>>586490925
currently there are two guilds from here on project epoch reborn
the shrouded atlas - explorer contract exclusive guild relatively small because of the contract
desu - free for all guild relatively small because it was made around 2 days ago
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>>586490691
>worg pet called knot
>femnelf
YEAH....
I know what you are
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>>586490925
<desu>
The normal guild, anons only. Guild chat is disabled and everyone just uses the chat channel.
<The Unshrouded Atlas>
Only anons who have signed the Explorer's Contract can join this guild, which is a debuff that halves all sources of experience in exchange for rewards every 10 or 20 levels. Kind of like Slow and Steady from Turtle except you don't get huge rested xp buffs.
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>>586490887
>theo is in an anon guild where he raids
>tandrok's failed male guild can't raid
Theo got the last laugh
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>>586490935
>Theodorian slanderer uses same edits as Rasknitt slanderer
Who is it?
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>>586491270
>for rewards every 10 or 20 levels
what are those?
>>
This thread reeks of unemployed browns
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I CAN'T RAID
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>>586489493
PICTURE: The two failed males responsible for <Branded>'s death
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>>586491406
Potions and bags I think.
You get 'the Patient' title once you hit 60.
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>>586488294
You dont even do 25 mans?
pathetic desu
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>>586491221
>>586491270
oh this sounds great love that there are options to choose from
so far desu interests me as im not really into half experiencie mode thank you anon for the replies
why aren't these guilds mentioned on the OP though?
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>>586491434
>emploid seething he cant spend all day orbiting trannies
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>>586482441
not in world peace
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What class does <World Peace>, <Weird Grey Dudes>, <Branded>, <The Unshrouded Atlas>, <desu> need
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>>586491764
Shaman
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>>586491338
>theo is in an anon guild where he raids
not for long if he doesn't shape up
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>>586491095
It's a comfy guild, we're easily clearing the hardest content in the server but I think It is a little undertuned because it's only phase1.
Never don't trust trannie posting in these threads unless they're talking about owo
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>>586491950
>Never don't trust trannie posting in these threads
Ok I'll ignore what you just said
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>>586488839
English is a tranny language
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>>586484103
zap can we not
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>>586491950
Can i have the sex with uffie
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>>586489763
true I play female high elf priests and paladins because I want to be a woman in real life
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>>586491764
World peace:
Shaman
Mage
Warlock
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>>586491534
ehhhh
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>>586491836
>>586492128
>Shaman
Why don't people ever play this class?
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who has the cutest writing style?
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>>586490114
https://coa-development.org/
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>>586492379
Vim
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I AM HAVING A BLAST
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>>586492073
Only if you win the post raid bake off
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>>586492750
I can bake some mean batwing crunchies
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I think octo are preparing a rug pull:
>We are excited to announce that we are now able to accept fiat currencies!
>In celebration of this, our arenas launch, and Halloween, we have decided to do our first in game sale as well! After this upcoming restart (October 31st), all shop prices will be 50% off from now until Monday November 2nd 00:01.
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>>586492750
I want to win Uffie's heart
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>>586492348
It's boring as fuck no matter what
Enha is cool I guess but anything else I'd rather blow my penis off
>>586492128
Warlock and mage are only good picks if you're planning on replacing the current ones. What the guild actually doesn't have yet is, as main characters:
>rogue(combat/assa)
>uhdk
>hunt (the other retards are playing troll specs like mm/bm)
>any shaman (preferably enha or resto)
I guess a ret or spriest could be fine too, one is played by a retard and another guy that shows up once a month, and the other is an alt of a player with like 100 different characters
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>>586493223
we're full on hunters, thanks!!!

we just need shamans and an unholy dk
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>>586493440
You're not playing survi? Expendable.
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>>586493223
still seething huh
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>>586493440
I have only ever played surv
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>>586492348
Enh and elemental are both mid in later phases, resto is pretty good but nobody likes playing resto shaman
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SVPVR RVRV!
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>>586494106
>world chat
Pochie & pooners
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>only 7 more levels before the namefag quits and stop spamming the thread until next fresh
can't wait
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>>586494796
you forgot he runs scholomance for a little bit but seeing how dead pochie is i worry he may never find a group
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>>586493872
Enh shaman is top 3 dps at the moment... just behind warlock and assa....
all ridiculously ahead of the other classes
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I like playing shaman
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>>586494938
>mogged by a pug shaman
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>>586482109
Are you using NAI V5?
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Looking at the frostie logs... the top dps specs... its not looking good xisters
>Warlock undisputed first
>Rogue Assa
>Enh Shaman
>Feral druid
next on the list after these is doing significantly less damage
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Epoch is still the best classic+ server. I missed it so much.
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>>586495389
Post it
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>>586495398
I always thought it was temu turtle but to each their own
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>>586493172
>claudecraft jeets with an ongoing flood of DMCA are going to scam people
no way
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>>586495612
It has nothing in common with turtle.
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>>586495389
i-It was supposed to be out time, woyerbros...
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>>586495398
dungeon changes are nice and new quests feel natural
still I think amalgam of turtle and epoch with the best part picked would be the ideal version.
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even 24k hp golems FEAR the warlock!
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>>586495612
It's higher quality than turtle, but has way less content and changes. There was a ton of shit in the plan, eventually it would have been the best vanilla+ server.
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>>586494106
>no loot
More like svpvr crvp, lvl
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>>586495789
>best parts of turtle
so just the 2 new zones before it shutdown and the dungeons
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>>586495890
vvvv v vvvv vv vvvv
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>>586495856
Maybe in soviet worlo.
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>>586495920
I liked some of the new sets and WC 3 assets here and there
got no idea what Kara looked like or played like, so maybe that too
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>check <ZUG ZUG>'s website to see if they cleared MC on ravencraft
>the ravencraft guild got abandoned
just like Yotsuba lmao
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>>586495872
>It's higher quality than turtle
early turtle, before the china money, was such a mess
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>>586495432
not like this woyerbros...
didn't see a single member of <World Piss> in this
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>>586496252
I don't think anyone in the guild logs. Grok used to do it on CoA.
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>>586496252
Link?
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EBIN LOOTIES
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>>586496050
>I liked some of the new sets and WC 3 assets here and there
this
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>>586496374
https://frostmournelogs.gg/rankings/damage/all-bosses
Its not that bad overall
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>>586495872
The dungeon changes don't really do anything new, the pirate dungeon is a complete piece of shit loot corridor, the talents are basically stuff from tbc/wrath... I could go on but the point is I don't really see the higher quality. As for what was planned, well, it's just hypotheticals.
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>>586492024
>latinx are twice as likely to be fags even though their languages hard gender everything
funny how that works
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>>586496050
Timbermaw Hold and Karazhan were good.
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>>586496508
>10m Heroic Patchwerk
Wrath is so annoyingly buff dependent, these candles are all over the place.
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>bully the only shaman from the guild
>"HE BETRAYED US"
You get what you deserve.
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>>586496620
But latinx are all English speaking chicanos. A real disgrace.
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>>586496871
you shouldn't look at boss + adds, specially on a fight like patchwerk
also all percentiles is meaningless, it conflates the results from the bottom of the barrel retards, you should look at 90 or even 95th percentile to see the real results for a player that will actually try
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>>586497124
>you shouldn't look at boss + adds, specially on a fight like patchwerk
It literally doesn't matter on Patch, there are no adds. It's the same with and without the filter.
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>>586491265
I'm perfect :)
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Both <Evil> and <Branded> beat BWL Day 1 on Ambershire, why is it filtering everyone on Octo?
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>>586497514
Wasn’t Branded forced to pug BWL?
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>>586497514
the latter half of the raid doesn't work, so the jeets of octo made the first half filter everyone with claude
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>>586491764
<desu> has one of every class, play whatever you like, bee urself
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>>586497514
It isn't. Lots of guilds are clearing it.
https://octo.chronicleclassic.com/leaderboards/speedruns?instance=Blackwing%20Lair&timing=full
31 guilds as we speak.
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>>586497514
Only 3 months of MC being DDoS'd to hell and back makes it hard to prepare for a raid. Along with many players not rejoining from turty to octo.
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>>586497514
>Why is a revamped raid on the vibecoded server filtering everyone
Gee you tell me
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>>586494867
>at the moment
Exactly, but fags only look for phases 5 full bis DPS tiers
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>>586497861
See >>586497823
The real question is "Why is Branded not able to clear" and the answer appears to be drama.
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>>586497514
Most of the good Turtle players went to <World Peace>.
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>>586497514
emerald dream was open for a long time too, has good gear.
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>capychinks launch EU server
>it flops
>"DDOS THE COMPETITION NOW"
>everyone blames them
>reputation in the dumpster
>launch event concludes with people hitting a target dummy raid boss for 20 hours
>realm first MC gets cleared by sexpest troons
>they are one of the only guilds left
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BLACKED LOTVS!
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>>586498343
you and i... we are not so different after all
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>>586498016
theodorin is there also so that negates them
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>>586498556
*child crying in distance*
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>>586498556
>empty arena at 17:00
Grim.
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>>586498556
yeah, both are shitters that underperform in raids and get raped in bgs then hop on the next fresh because of it
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>>586498667
no he outside playin with his friends
>>586498695
they saw my new big friend and didnt dare to enter, atleast one shamy and druid where here
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>>586497514
The new boss is full on broken. And the rest aren't working quite well either.
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cant help but see all this shitting on theo as anything but losers being mad jealous
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>>586498724
nu uh! i dont underperform! i can do like 500 dps on boss dummies, you DUMMY
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>>586498640
Theo won.
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Has there ever been a raid where Theo hasn't cried?
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theo has the shadow cliques backing
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>>586498556
ummm sorry but who are you supposed to be?
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>>586499107
I am Zezerver. The Bull has allocated 2 hours of game time on the family computer.
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>>586499107
Show some respect, he controls 0.7% of the black lotus supply on the server
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>>586491402
It was <Braindead>
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Jahy what do you do for a living apart of killing RVRVS?
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>>586499316
really love that he thought he was the first person ever to try and prep consumes before a raid tier releases
as if every guild ever that wants to do that content doesnt already stock up way beforehand
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Zzzzzz... so tired after BWL!

I'm really sad Dr. Zeze couldn't join us.. but hopefully my guild will forget about the time he griefed their World Boss and understand he's reformed!!

How is everyone today... zzz...
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>>586499540
i always panicbuy my consumes an hour before raid on every server no matter how expensive and pray i have enough
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>>586499540
he didnt make any profit yet
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>>586499474
I have a OnlyFans where I sell NSFW sloppa
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>>586499954
Cant your bitch ass go into social media and shill for epoch or something
we both now there is not enough population
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>>586499954
Biggest market on India ATM.
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>>586500091
Hmm.... NYO!
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>jahy is a sloptranny too
sign
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>>586498929
>I don't like this raid comp, get someone with +5% crit. No fury warriors though
>Nice, this raid is full of alts, looks like I'm getting every drop
>We already raided hc naxx last week, this is getting stale
>Why am I not getting any loot? We've killed 3 bosses already
>Wiped half the raid? Your fault for not explaining the fight properly
>Armor pen? Give me that
>Raid key? More like BIS
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>>586500330
armor pen is bis on ret you guys are just retarded and dont know that frostmourne has a lot of class changes
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>>586500330
>Raid key? More like BIS
the reward from the quest is bis for almost everyone.
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>>586497514
Its the jeet server
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>>586500330
None of these came even close to reality, very disingenous
you could have a legitimate argument if you tried
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>>586498929
He always cried about loot every single raid on CoA.
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>>586500330
Theo can get all the loot in the world and still do less damage than world peace trannies
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>>586500714
theo was top dps all raid yesterday though
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>>586498556
Excited for more vael today?
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>>586500737
nice try theo
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>>586500737
Proof?
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>>586498016
Name 1
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>>586500786
YES WE WILL DO IT!
>>
I saw server owners strip players of their gold… and eventually of their gear. Saw GMs transform /wpsg/ into a machine fueled by people’s wasted hours, broken dreams, and emptied wallets.
The Guild Masters have controlled our lives, taken our loot… and now they’re after our souls! Theo, I've declared war not because private servers are a thorn in my side or outta nostalgia for an Azeroth gone by. This war's a player's war against a system that's spiraled outta our control. It's a war against the fuckin' forces of dead servers, corrupt GMs, and cash shop entropy, understand?
Do whatever it takes to stop 'em, expose 'em, gut their reputation. If I gotta shitpost, I'll shitpost. If I need to make a callout thread, I'll fuckin' make one!
Fuckin' hell…
You still don't see it, Theo.
But you will one day.
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>>586500161
enjoy dying with the server then
in before
>but i had my fun and it was cooooomfy
t.anon with lvl 49 shaman and lvl 36 priest btw i just want things to get better
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why don't we talk about steelfurry filling his diapers and throwing a fit, remember that?
>why u bully me, all of u dont give me buff, then he troll me, i can't take it anymore im going to rope, im literally crying right now
that shit was so funny
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>>586501427
because it's him seething about theo right now and earlier about pallenine
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>>586501427
Looks like steelfury is a noname but theo has a history of being a shitter and lootwhore
First post about the whole fiasco mentioned steelfury crashing out but somebow Theo failing at paladin things is what stuck out
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I have a GS 4.3 holy paladin and a 4.2 disc priest on whitemane frostmourne. I'm bored.
When does the new phase come out I wanna raid Ulduar
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>>586502315
They haven't said yet, so no one knows. Think I saw in world chat someone asking about it too and the GM just said they don't have a planned date yet.
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>>586502315
Aren't they releasing a custom raid first?
Something about elves
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Gil drowned.
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>>586502490
it's after ulduar
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>>586502490
>elves
dropped
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Any news on a Forever private server?
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>>586502695
you're gonna be raiding the high elf city with dk arthas in a flashback
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>>586503093
yeah
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>>586502695
>Missing out on genociding some elves fuckwits
Wouldn't be me!
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>>586502490
I think the two Stormforge custom raids being brought over are Kara which is between Ulduar and TotC, and then Sunwell which is after ICC (or side by side with ICC?) judging by the ilevel of the gear from those raids
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>log in on tauri
>no trannies to chase
>log out
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for the love of god somebody please plap this man
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>>586494106
You know someone is soulless when all their chat is just world chat
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>>586503661
*plap*
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>>586503798
You know someone is soulless when all their chat isn't trannies flirting in gchat
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>>586504035
>Trannies outta nowhere
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>>586503531
kara is 8.5 and quel'thalas is 9.5
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Name a bigger loser than Arthas.
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>>586504505
Uther
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>>586504550
>gets infinite they/them pussy in the afterlife
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>>586504505
kel'thuzad is the ultimate loser, jobs in 2 raids and is a bitchboy for the lich king
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRlv84Lj-dI
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>>586504682
>infinite afterlife pussy
>udussy on the frozen throne
I think the answer is clear.
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>>586499651
Gonna plap this bunny
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around spics watch yourself
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>>586504505
blizzdrones
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>>586505052
>could've had azshara
>could've had vashj
>could've had maiev
Why is he like this?
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I only logged in for like 10 minutes. How does this keep happening? I don't instigate it.
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>>586504505
Arthur
>>
>Double Down
>Sinister Strike
>Flametongue Weapon
>Hack and Slash
>Sword Specialization
>Combat Potency
>Hold to cast: on
I miss it :(
>>
feels really good knowing that i could beat the shit out of every single person in this general if they ever tried to step to me in real life
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>>586507726
Zezerver would fold you into a box.
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>>586507726
i'd beat your ass
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>>586507105
Grimfall exists if you want to play Wildcard
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RVRV MONKE!
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>jahy
>plays the game
>only talks about the game
>posts RVRVs
>gets hate for posting
>off-topic loony troons
>"DID YOU HEAR WHAT GLUPSHITTO SAID?"
>spends more time gossiping than playing the game
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>>586508290
It's an MMO, honey. Players and things related to those players are on topic as that's all part of the game too.
>>
The bibisi could be one of our greatest assets.
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>>586508007
Nah, I tried wildcard and it was just annoying trying to fish for the rolls I wanted. Free pick let me autistically refine an off-meta, but still effective, build to my heart's content. For now I'll just stick with enh/resto shaman and frost(dps)/frost(tank) DK on Frostmourne like I did back in the day.
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>>586508586
Yes, I need it. I desire it so deeply.
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>>586508586
>>586508921
opsec level?
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>>586508921
We must have it. It's everything we crave.
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why does trvmp talk about that so much anyway
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>>586509376
>>
BIBISI VS BIWISI
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>>586509430
BIBISI IS G-D
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>>586509430
he does?
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>anon
>lurks the thread
>doesn't post
>gets hate for not posting
>off-topic (you)
>"DID YOU HEAR WHAT GOSSIP TRANNY DID?"
>spends more time complaining about gossip trannies than participating in the thread
>>
>NO YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT FELLOW PLAYERS IN A VIDEO GAME HEAVILY THEMED ABOUT INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY!!! DONT DO THAT!!!
You sound so stupid.
>>
YES YOU'RE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT BIBIS!! DO THAT!!
>>
Thoughts on Cclockk on Octowow?
>>
What would Felmoon think about the situation?
>>
BIBISI IS G-D
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>>586509605
>>586509692
>>586510158
>>586510708
>>586511608
the bibisi...
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>>586510357
There's an entire containment board for that. >>>/vt/
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one wipe! nothing wrong with me
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qrd on the clique in world peace?
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>>586511963
the clique hates me due to not being into zoophilia
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>>586511963
the only thing ill say is never ever under any circumstances misgender uffie
even saying this is enough to put me dangerously close to compromising my position
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bro...
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>>586504780
>the lich king
jailor
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Mike Ma spotted on frostie
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>>586513127
sluthera is trvmps alt from tauri btw, level 14 warlock on frostmourne right now
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two wipes! nothing wrong with me!
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>>586513248
SNIPED THAT FAGGOT
BASED
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>>586513248

Trvmp finally joining the other degenerates in the guild!!
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KAYTOTEEEEESS
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pochie...
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Epoch server rn
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>>586513248
>sluthera is trvmps alt from tauri btw
proof?
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kotofanya on the right
trvmp on the left
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>>586514137
>still no proof that sluthera is trvmp
at least try before you throw accusations
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three wipes! nothing wrong with me!
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i love female humans so fucking much...
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>>586514137
Hi koto!
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healslut for ST is more rare than actual RVRVs
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>>586514793
being a tranny is based, right?
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>>586514882
why arent there any healers that want to do that dungeon?
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where are the glittermurk mines located on Epumba?
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>>586514984
No, Trvmp is a troonslayer
>nuked the chromie troon guild
>partially killed the saarmane troon erp guild
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>>586515236
STV where the goblins miners
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>>586515349
Wrong.
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>>586514137
What is wrong with redhead human players?
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four wipes! NOTHING WRONG WITH ME!
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>>586515349
tang was straight and i'm not trvmp
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>>586515779
>belf
>straight
AHAHAAHAH
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Some of you are more annoying than the trannies and that's really saying something
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>>586516025
they need bibisi
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>>586515004
There are no healers at that level period
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>>586516239
>bibisi
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>>586516570
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>>586516570
That book isn't actually that chuddy it reads more like a history of religion text than a political tract. The indian there probably didn't read
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fifth wipe, huntard even had chetah aspect on and got his entire group stunned right at the start. unbelivable

RAID OFF

stay far away from LE CRUZADA DE SCARLETO EL WIPEYDAD
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>>586517068
>they cant clear shit but at least theyre based racist RP guild with only humans
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>>586517068
Server?
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I kind of regret rolling warlock on epoch, even with unstable affliction unlocked the leveling is a slog
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>>586517809
>warlock
>the leveling is a slog
???
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>>586517784
yes i am ze zerver, thats me octowow
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>>586517068
Turtle vael is even easier than the vanilla one, how do you fuck that up?
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>>586517809
why are you using that trash over felchud you retard?
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>>586517908
It's so many buttons to press, I might do the jahy and switch to demo to maximize laziness
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pochie pop status?
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>Pellaine crashed out so hard, he enacted WW3
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>>586518847
popping off
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>>586517418
Yes. Who gives a shit if it's done thru some tranny filled autistic guild instead of one where people are having fun speaking their mind
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>>586518924
you know i had to do it to em
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>>586518979
ugh...
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Where does Grok play now?
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>>586518979
How much will it dip in 2 days though?
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>>586519009
False dichotomy.
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>Forever has removed weapon skill racials
RETAIL MINUS. RETAIL. MINUS.
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How many Human Male Paladins does it take to replace a light bulb?

Zero, because none of them have their Holy LIGHT bound!
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>>586519858
surely nobody would drop POCHIE for tetoilet-
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>>586519856
Tauri
>crashing this guild.... WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>586520134
I have grouped with at least 3 people that told me they will be playing forever
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>>586506623
Where is Jib?
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Grok will be playing on Forever.
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>>586520986
everybody that isn't POOR and BROWN is going to be playing there
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>>586520986
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>>586520986
ngl, probably gonna drop a sub or two if I can get my boys together
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>>586520986
>>
Uffie kawaii desu ~~
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>>586517068
Imagine wiping on the second easiest boss of this raid.
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>>586520986
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>aight trannies, it's time to hop on tauri, we're doing mythics
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trannies.
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>>586517068
lmao
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>>586521902
mmmmm... Nyo!~
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whats the reference here
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>>586506623
Sorry anon we are no longer doing bestiality in this thread.
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>>586522506
Furbolgs are humanoids, you fucking racist.
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Dvtch retvrns svvn
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>>586520986
All of us will.
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>pop!
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Sorry anon we are no longer doing bestiality in this thread.
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Uffie is a trans woman
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>>586524817
>two left hands
ai slop
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>>586524817
you know that you're female to male and still transphobic, right pellaine?
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Pellaine cried.
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>>586524920
Uffie is a MAN
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Lonely...
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>>586525415
I will continue to refer to her using female pronouns and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
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>>586525615
he
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>>586479807
that's a man!
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Pochie status?
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Man status? Everyone in this thread. Including Uffie
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Forgotten…
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i am a clueless motherfucker who only vibes along. i don't even know what a parse. can some elite straight edge woweewahwah speedtrooner simply judge this dps. its normal right? pre BWL random ass pve gear, zero external buffs except my own, zero consumes barely any enchants. THATS NORMAL, right? like you can clear BWL with that. SAVE ME NIGGERMAN IM GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEee
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Uffie
>>
can a kind anon teach a newfriend how to set up filters
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>Queue as healer/tank on Tauri
>Still 20min queues
Why are average 3rd worlders so allergic to tanking/healing?
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Catplanet..
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>>586527443
mmmm... nyo!
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>>586527035
grim.. you need to quit your job and practice your rotation!
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traaaaaannsssss rights are human rights
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>>586527120
sex
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Uffie you can send me an ingame mail if you want to ERP
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>>586527804
based nyo poster!
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Remember when Pellaine
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>>586529012
Based uffie
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>>586462960
Hey, I recognise this artstyle!
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>>586529346
when he betrayed gulag? yes, I remember
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>>586529667
Story time?
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>>586530054
Noname!
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>>586529829
Pellaine was MT in <gulag>, he signed up for the raid and he no-showed.
Turns out he was raiding on Frostmourne instead.
He never came back.
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>>586530450
BASED
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>>586530450
damn, he pulled a grok?
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>>586527035
I will help you if you get your enchants.
Not wasting my time on a freeloading nigger.
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>doll shotafied Saaron
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>>586527443
there is a guide in the script
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>>586527920
>rotation
there is no rotation, it's just
>curse
>3x rank 1 shadowbolt to build 3 stacks of that demonic buff thing i only use for. pve
>activate trinket, racial and power overwhelm and shiet
>immolate and ccorruption
from there on just spamming shadowbolt and power overwhelm, recasting both dots and health/mana funnel to demon if needed there is nothing more to it. how is +700 dps for 2 minutes not enough for vaelstrazascious bane of the scarlet crusade second boss of black wing lair. that fight shouldn't even last 1.5 minutes
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>>586531998
>there is no rotation its just a rotation
why are you such a retard
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>>586531152
hahahahahah so you are NIGGERMAN? loooooollllll
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>>586532113
is that a rotation for you?
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>>586532242
thats what a rotation is, yes. it's a sequence of button presses
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can they delay wow forever by a month? I don't want it to flop already and bring back all the retards who are in their general.
please god.
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>2 buttons and a macro
>rotation
wow players are a joke
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>>586532113
rotate DEEZ lmao gotteem
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>>586532414
the ease of rotation doesnt magically make something not a rotation
the rotation for warlock in TBC is literally just apply curse, immolate, then shadowbolt but thats still a rotation
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>>586528675
Sent :^)
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Pale Reach.. home..
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>>586533958
i miss it so much bros...
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bibisi...
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>>586531998
I was just messing with you
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>>586534026
there are 3 small Coa servers and only of them is decent, if they all decided to play on Conquest of AzerothCore there would be already a stable 1k pop at all times
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open source meme killed private servers in way blizzard could never do it
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>>586534560
>open source meme
AI slop*
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>>586534153
15 wipes mon... 15....wipes.... and i only want the gold flask trinket and the cloth spell hit bracers from there... mon.....
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brutal chudlock mogging
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Hey Jahy!
Take THIS
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>>586538617
Perkele?
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>>586540428
vittu saatana perkele
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neekeri
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>>586540701
Oispa kesä spurdo suomi perkele.
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>>586540889
>spurdo
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>>586534332
I'd say Conquest Reborn is decent, it's just unsustainable since 1 guy is running it, no matter how good his intentions are
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>>586544035
i agree. every dev needs to pay some troon mods who do nothing but drive players away from their game or it'll never work out.
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Name my band
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>>586548257
trans rights
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>>586532414
2 licks of a cock is still a blowjob, faggot.
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>>586548257
Two and a Half Men.
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>>586548257
desu
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>>586548257
What about <desu>
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good night i hate niggers and trannies and anybody different from me
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>>586549784
>>586549784
>>586549784
>>586549784
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>>586549893
Nigger, stop baking early. Or at least make sure this thread reaches bump limit first.
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>>586527035
Its pretty good actually, but remember in raids you're gonna have to heal your felguard or he will kill himself from the demonic empowerment + the aoes
So that means more life funnels, more life taps
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>>586550553
didn't get to make a cropped porn op award
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>>586551619
No, all ERPers should get nuked from orbit. It just annoys me that these threads could easily reach 800-900 posts before needing a new one. It's an efficiency thing.



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