>Latest patch:https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps>Latest Balance Patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/680765564125186045>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial CompetitiveNewshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>586436187
I want to have sex with Vindicta's feet
>DJINNHU ACKBAR! I CLAIM MY 72 VIRGINS (UNDERAGED) IN HEAVEN!What did Mirage mean by this?
Sex with Venator
why does Doorman ult upgrades do literallyunironicallyLITERALLYnothing against good players???my upgrades shouldn't be entirely out of my hands to get value from.make the baroness longer but increase the checkout time so I can keep the 40k wraith out of the game for longer.put me IN the baroness if I alt cast so I can be a faggy ass goalkeeper.literally anything that actually functions against players who know the very basic corner boost.
How do I play Danny better? I mostly just Strix > Carpet Bomb > Jettison > Dive > Ult and it seems to work every time, but I'm afraid it'll stop working. Also, does he fall off late game or am I building him wrong?
>>586470982>72 VIRGIN (UNDERAGED) DJINNS*
>Ancient in Dota>Seeker in Deadlock
anyone else feel unconformable when your team calls enemy Pocket a "he" instead of their proper pronouns they/them? I honestly leave the teamfight do not chase them when my team does that...
>>586471119I usually just tell them in team chat they're they/them and if they keep doing it I shame them in all chat and afk
>>586471054dunno brothey should let my drifter just instantly kill you with rend so he's lore accurate too
>The only hero I know how to play is also banned every gameShikataganai
>>586471119I also respect his pronouns unlike the chuds from /dlg/
>usually play support in team based games>damn near every team i get matched with is filled with atleast 3 retards>im talking 2 kills, a handful of assists, and half our team deaths type of retardsdoes it get better once i unlock ranked or should i just give up and start playing carries?
>>586471054Your slowing hex bro??
I want to wash Vindicta's feet. They smell awful.
>carry haze>can only kill whenever she ultsWell, that was a miserable experience. Can we delete Haze from the game? This hero has no positive impact or influence on the game.
How do people even get into seeker, 90% of my playtime was when the game still had 4 lanes and came back only to lose all my placement matches, still got into Mystic II (never played ranked before so I didn't even have a previous rank)
>>586471351Supports are pretty impactful in Deadlock. Carry is better at carrying (lol), but you still gonna lose often because your team might simply lose everything before you had a chance to farm and hit your first spike.
>>586471119>HE'S A THEY>THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM
>pocket looks and sounds like a man and was going to marry a woman>we're just supposed to pretend he's an androgynous troon because... uhh...?
>>586471535I won every single placement match, got MVP in half of them... the final result was being placed in brick 6
>>586471351>does it get better once i unlock rankedNo. If you're maining supports you should be always prepared to pivot into a carry role if your team is full of retards. It's a pain in the ass because you're always going to get worse results than a real carry but still better than trying to support literal crayon eating subhumans.
WHERE IS THE RABBIT HEEEEROOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im going to the barber tomorrow. how do i ask for apollos haircut without sounding autistic? i already have a middle part i just need to get rid of a lot of hair
>>586471119I will continue to call Pocket he if for no other reason than using singular they when calling shots in a team-based pvp game is a disaster waiting to happen.
>>586471119>Arin (my beloved <3) is nonbinary you fucking bigot, I'm leaving you with a warning for misgendering them, next time is a ban.
>>586471746No one likes rabbits
>entire enemy team is alive>we might have a teammate down or two>all but maybe one enemy showing on map (IE we dont know where the enemy is)>"let's go boss and get rejuvs"genuinely; what is the thought process behind this?
>>586471752It's an extremely average haircut just look for a picture of a guy with a similar one to show the barber I guess
>>586471776she clocked that cosplay though
>>586471746Every hero can be a rabbit hero, if you play the mannequin man.
>>586471776Wow Jim Sterling looks bad
Fortitude should be a 6k item and work like heart from dota
>>586471985ok but only if you delete abrams and victor from the game
Base HP feels all over the place>Warden and McGinnis being higher than a frontliner like Abrams>Kelvin being that far up
Let's remove half of tier 3 and 4 items and make them only buyable on a secret store (the ones in the midline)
>>586471985You need to be able to buy it multiple times then, I want to reenact the best Dota 2 Herald game I've ever seen, 4 hearts of Tarrasque on warlock at 70 minutes.
>>586471671>lost 6/8 calibration matches>Mystic IVWho fucking knows at this point
>>586471985Really? Half of the game is already stolen from Dota, and you want them to change the one item they took from League?
>>586472016there's enough anti heal and %hp damage in the game to fuck emdota can deal with heart heroes just fine too
>>586471828>It's an extremely average haircutis that good or bad
Did OP have nothing better to put in the OP than bragging about his MVP match?You already posted about it 3 times
>>586471985Only if everyone agrees to never nerf Healbane from its current version that's so OP I build it blindly on every character.
>>586471946Was it worth it for him?
>>586472104He doesn't even have the balls to uncensor his name lmao
>>586472081Yes because league is garbage
>>586472097Good in the sense that it's common and you can pull it off without looking like a cosplayer wearing an anime wig, and good because you can find real people wearing it as pictures online to show your barber.
building gun on danny because his strix will still be a fuck ton of damage even with minimal investment, might as well make his 3 worth presssing
>>5864719622 hours is way too long and completely unrealistic but still giwtwm
Jerked off to Celeste today.
>>586472104So when's the Yamato remodel coming
>>586472104I do not like this Yamato image, delete this post now.
>>586471776You can make fun of trannies but they're the only ones actually making their "cosplay" instead of just buying everything from Wish and AliExpress. The hobby is fucking dead.
the one thing stopping me from playing Geist is the voiceline spam after using bomb and knives, i dont have to hear YOU VILL ZE DIE every 1.5 seconds
>>586472104I miss when this gen would bake at page 10, now its at 750 with either Violet/Silver/Celeste in the OP
>>586472310launch ze missiles
>>586472325Pretty much every single general does this nowadays, and people get mad if you call them out
>>586472346If only she had a "but I am le tired" voice line
>>586472223i saw that the reddit and twitter now consider celeste trans because "a unicorn is like a trans + her colors"
I like Celeste's teeth
>feed in lane >ok I just have to farm now >random player finds me and kills me in my jungle and nobody helps me >have lowest farm for the rest of the game why is this allowed
>release fun hero shiv that everyone hates>neuter him over and over until he feels like shit>release fun hero apollo that everyone hates>neuter him over and over to the point he feels like slopHow will they rape danny's kit until he is no longer fun? I'm excited to see yoshi's vision!>>586472040raw hp basically means nothing, abrams has his damage passive and innate lifesteal so his effective hp is much higherit's why bad players always die instantly they dont build around ehp
>>586472370Violet's inclusion definitely brought in the waifufags that need to hijack the OP with their whore
>>586472378someone that's not me should definitely suggest that to the devs somehowwould be funny
>>586472420That doesnt happen. You get 70% of comeback souls + the lowest soul tick bonus.
>>586471776>this is woke the game!>we are accepted here>check the thread for this 'cosplay'>barely any support and hundreds of deleted commentslol lmao
>>586472420This happened to me today. Then I ignored my team every ping, drawing on the map, comm and chat. Just spent all my time split-pushing lanes since these faggots didn't help when they were right next to me.Still managed to win because split-pushing is op against deathballing.
>>586472325There's nothing wrong with that when 99% of the general doesn't bake and letting it sit on page 10 is a surefire way for it to slide off or get some duplicate emergency bakePage 4-8 is the sweetspot
>>586472449you should stick to singleplayer gamesyou can be as cancerous as you want in those
how am i supposed to play graves with the bottom heavy mod when i just want to jerk off the entire match
>>586472076>>586471671Brick is just weird. The other day I was watching dokibird who is in crow rank and maining Rem. She has no movement tech, her aim is decent but not exceptional and her macro is obviously pretty poor since she doesn't have a moba background.So, a moba beginner without any developed tech and about 100 games makes it to crow. Fair enough, but why the actual fuck are these fucking bricks in my game hitting corner boosts as they disengage from a fight they don't like?! Why is the 2, 3 and 5 minute objectives getting contested on the second?! What the fuck is going on in Brick, why is more competitive than crow ranks?!
>>586472713install the pregmod instead
>>586471430as if.fucking Abrams can escape a slowing hex baroness with 1 stam, no items, no abilities and very basic movement.
Dunno how people say Mirage is boring and then play Graves or Paige.
next patch when
>>586472450Keep seething, those waifufags actually play the game unlike you>>586470140>>586470607
>>586472713>the skirt goes up when you jump>she's wearing a thong and her ass jigglesperfect mod
I'm tired.. is there something you get for playing deadlock during this halloween event? Something you get to keep?
>>586472898Graves and Paige are good so you can win at least
>>586472904Tomorrow. By popular request, we're nerfing Silver
>>586472964the zoomer mind twists and thrashes attempting to comprehend the idea of whimsy and novelty for the sake of it. "where's the reward?", he asks. "will i get anything for doing this?". as if simply enjoying something ephemeral is an offense to his state of being
>>586472898Graves and Paige are bing bing wahoo heroes for ADHD trannies whereas Mirage is just a chill guy
>>586473128I dont want the reward, I just dont want to miss something, if that makes sense. I just am busy and didn't know if I NEED to hop on deadlock and play a few rounds for some thing
>>586473228>I dont want the reward, I just dont want to miss somethingso the rewardretard
>>586473132ADHD non-tranny here, playing Paige and Graves feels like taking sleeping pills.
Laning phase is really poorly designed jungle/boxes should not spawn before 10 minutes you should not just be hiding behind your tower for all lane the tower should not have so much resist that it's not worth shooting It feels like these design choices exist because some heroes are so weak in lane that they need to make it so the tower lasts at least 5 minutes with them on it On these weak heros lane is just a mandatory humiliation ritual you have to go through every game It's not fun at all
>>586473240I mean I get him. It galls me that I missed out on the 2024 christmas thingy since I was on vacation that year.
>>586473228that's the definition of fomo, the self-inflicted plague of ZOOMERSanyways yeah nah i don't think so. if there is, it hasn't been stated and there is no precedent
>>586473228man you need to stop caring about fomo shit
>>586473375There won't be a reward because Halloween was too short (only like what, 4 days?)The Christmas events lasted for weeks meanwhile
>>586473337Bro, just dive them. The tower does literally nothing.
>went from 1 win to seeker to brick 5 because of back to back games where a teammate, usually a lash, feeds the enemy until they're the terminatorGet me out of this special needs rank bro holy shit
>>586472725I am also a vtuber watching gay faggot homo and yeah it doesn't make any sense. I haven't played ranked for a while because of the win req being waved for the new characters, but before that I was basically trapped at the peak of seeker getting matched against autists with mental aimbots, movementGODS, and enemy teams that always maintain map awareness and move in squads. meanwhile I watch her grind her way out of ritualist and everyone in those games play like my one friend who doesn't know what anyone does and mutters skill descriptions out loud as he reads them, as we're on the zipline. what the fuck is going on
>>586473337this post reeks of lolbab
>Keeps blue guardian alive past 30 minutesHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>586473461if you aren't consistently doing like double the damage of every brickshitter in the lobby then you're exactly where you belong, these are basically bots
>people spam /d2g/ for years with loli pugna memes>Valve adds her as a canon characterWhich other meme should we force Valve to turn into a reality?
>>586473478>like my one friend who doesn't know what anyone does and mutters skill descriptions out loud as he reads them, as we're on the zipline.I see I'm not alone in knowing someone like this My friend picks random heroes and he doesn't test out their kits or find a build beforehand
>>586473621win the game because she's shitpause on her before the 2nd patron dies and type>mcginnis big noob
>>586472941With how many retarded takes that are hilariously outdated we see here now and again I wouldn't be surprised if this general had a large population of retards that haven't played the game in monthsI know dotards love to overstay their welcome because they played Dota until [Patch that triggered them] released and they swore the game off 8 years ago
>>586473676if you weren't a retarded newfag pedo dotard tourist you'd know we ALREADY got it with Rat King, dipshit.now fuck off, tourist.
>>586473478Yeah. I'm unironically brick but in 2024 I placed diamon, at the perfect 50% average percentile.If you fucking die in a brick game at +25 minutes, the enemy team will insta take mid. Every mid has both sides contesting it. Buffs are gobbled up instantly. It is fucked up.
>>586473753>Reddit meme
>>586473815see >>586473753
>>586472449Apollo is still busted and horrible to play against, expect more nerfs.
>>586473850>reddit rat
>>586473337Retards like you are why Valve don't listen to the community
>>586473685>pause on her before the 2nd patron diesnta but its based as fuck that valve doesnt consider this reportable, did this with my friends to a yappy enemy team and they seethed the whole time
>they remove the harrow leech moving around during pauseman fuck this, I was abusing this to get free stack
>>586471108You have to be an aimlab grinding tranny to be high elo in this game unfortunately. Either that or you just play Spirit characters who nuke half the lane indiscriminately. Or I guess Graves, but you're a fag if you go the Reddit-ass "Tank" build on her.
>>586474081most honest harrow player
>>586472964>>586473228Mindraped cattle
>>586471351It never gets better till the Marvel Rivals playing speds that got shilled this game by ecelebs since this update came out a month ago fucking leave.
i'm just going to leave if the enemy team gets a 20k soul advantage, there is no point in staying for an additional 30 minute torture session that's not going to turn around ever
>have played against 3 different aimbot/autoparry cheaters since the new heroes patch>have not gotten a single "we banned this nigger" popupDo you even get those?>inb4 "they weren't cheating ur le bad lol"They were, fuck off
>>586474349they weren't cheating ur le bad lol
>Retard 1/9/1 Venator on team>He becomes 1/10/1>Our Bebop typed something like "venator 10 death speedrun">Venator gets on mic and tells Bebop to stfu and check damage numbers after>After match>Look at stat board>Venator lowest damage in the match, lower than even enemy Rem>Bebop 2nd lowestI'm in Ascendant nigger hell
>>586474349they generally do banwaves rather than individual bans for hackers
>>586473453lol every time I lane on ivy I do not die I do not get any kills I simply farm and wait for lane to end It's optimal and it sucks
>>586474121It's not as dishonest as Vindictas pausing the game to position their snipeThank God that got removed
yammers
>>586474349I reported a blatantly aimbotting 27/0 Haze a month ago (Steam profile wasn't even set up when I checked, obvious throwaway account)I reported another Haze last weekNo punishment notifications for either
>>586472449>launch shiv>honestNope. I remember his bloodletting being so bullshit that ia 1 hp geist swap let shiv at like 70%
>>586473676Quite literally the worst rendition of Loli Pugna we could have possibly gotten. They need to try again (by making her younger) and to not gut her into the fucking ground next time. She's starting to feel like McGinnis where she just has no purpose. Skulls and Ghouls get insta-deleted and her gun is ass even with auto-aim and damage stealing. What is even Graves' purpose at this point?
Unironically how is it so hard to make a functioning matchmaking for this fucking gamethey couldn't do it in 2 fucking years
>>586474349Valve Allows Cheaters, never forget
>>586474620>What is even Graves' purpose at this point?Sloppy ryonasnuff mating sex
i want the old mid lane setup backthe new one is fucking gay
>>586473621Shit that never happened. Her turrets get insta popped and the average 5 man pub deathball just runs McGinnis over no matter what build you're doing.>>586473461>he thinks it stops happening in the higher rankslol, lmao even>>586471535>>586471671>>586472076>>586472725>>586473478>>586473770
got banned again
If Yoshi added in my OC hero this game would be saved
>>586474806retardbro doesn't max ult
>>586474873>gets ran down non-stop by the people on the ground and raped by the people in the air that take no damage from it
>>586474908good luck "running down" a dyke bombarding you from across the map while you're permaslowed
>>586474771This Holliday was just a crackshot
>>586474421>>586474564We need picrel for Deadlock so fucking badly. Banwaves aren't frequent enough and with the winstreak system a fresh cheater account can easily climb as high as low Eternus before being nuked. Then the cheater simply makes a new account for free and repeats the process. The cheater gets 1-2 months of enjoyment out of stomping people, everyone else in every match and rank bracket the cheater passes through suffers.
>>586474989Maybe in shitpiss bricklo, but anywhere outside of the literal sewers of ranked you're just gonna get ran the fuck down for using that shit.
>standard match as ivy>my laning partner is an absolute retard and then we lose the match horribly>standard match as paige>my laning partner is an absolute retard and then we lose the match horribly>standard match as lash>me and my lane partner absolutely rape our enemies and then we win the match with double the team killsmaybe this is my sign
sex with abrams though
>>586474620Graves routinely makes every game she is included in utter dogshit. She provides so much pressure and damage. I regularly see her topping the charts just from merely existing. Even if she is bad she can provide space or set and forget her spells while she pisses around in the back. I will never accept any gaslighting on her being bad, she is over tuned for how little input she requires to bring value to the table. High winrate across the board.
>>586475139her ult's a free tower early game too
>>586475042self-reportbro...
>>586475063That's what the Lash does. Makes dreams come true.
>>586474635a couple days ago i had the misfortune to be put in a match where the enemy team's mmr was twice as much as mine. i'm frog 2. i've been tryharding the best i could because of course i got matched against their highest ranked player who plays in oracle matches according to statlocker. he was playing celeste and did shit i only saw in high rank streams, i could not even react so fast to counter him. some of the other players were also unbelievably fast.like.. sure it was at around 3 AM my time so most of the usual EU cucks went to sleep and only the most tryhard neets were still awake but come on is this really fair?
>>586475139>sets and forgets her shit in the backAnd achieves nothing cause it only takes 1 light melee to destroy skulls and the sheer amount of AoEslop in every game just makes Ghouls non-existent. Just cause her shit doesn't get trivialized in the land of the apes don't mean she's remotely usable.
>>586474806>Shit that never happened. Her turrets get insta popped and the average 5 man pub deathball just runs McGinnis over no matter what build you're doing.Honestly they're so afraid of McGinnis, especially turret McGee ever being good, they should just rework the character completely.
Newish deadlock player, quick question. Do you all lock in 3 heroes, or just as many as you like? I'm inclined to do just 3 in order to focus my improvement on them, but I'm not sure if this really matters or if most others pick a lot of heroes just to speed up queues or something of the fact
>>586475206graveyard shift matches are just horrible, the matchmaker gets very loose and lobbies are full of either stoners or nolifers
I really like the Halloween Hideout, it's very comfy. Looks warmer and cozier than normal.
>>586475376Just play the way you like, you improve the most by having fun.Maining a hero has some benefit since you don't have to put as much brainpower into hero control and you can focus on macro and movement that are universal skills, but that's no good if you burn yourself out. I personally have 3 heroes for ranked, but when I play too many games I swap to standard and play to unlock a hero to get a refresher.
>>586474807Don't let 'em keep you down Billy, keep speakin' the truth baby
>>586475108HERE I CUM
why does flog do 0 damage?
>>586475376you can hover as many heroes as you like, and then increase the priority on them with right clickfor the most part i select every hero i'm okay with getting, raise the priority on the ones i'd be *more* okay wtih getting, and then high-priority my mains or who i want to play the most
>>586474807how do you even get pause-banned lmao
>>586475257This is the retarded "erm in high skill" redditesq gas lighting/elitism I am talking about. High winrate. Easy input for free value. Free pressure and space. Not to mention the black hole suction hit boxes on the wall. She is strong, she has proven to be strong due. If she is still pulling an above average winrate across the boards than she is useful by definition.
>>586475641probably by doing that shit where you pause 3 times right before the patron dies
>>586475108LET'S SEE WHAT THIS DICK CAN DO!
>>586475372The turret build is lame because it's basically a summoner build like Graves. It takes zero skill to pilot. That skill should be nerfed into the ground, and then they can make the rest of her shit better.
rat king balljobthoughts?
>>586475827Ronnie…
>>586474807Based Billy trying to call out autoparry cheateds and retards on his team and getting punished for it
>>586475108DON'T BOTHER GETTING UP!
for the love of FUCK yoshi all i ask for christmas is a wraith nerf that actually mattersjust make the heal a barrier/regen insteador tune all of her cards a little lowerANYTHING that just gives her a little less sustain and camp clearevery game is just a wraith that comes back from behind with cheat death and a 20k+ haunt souls statline and is never active until after 30mins
>Graves is groomed by a much older adult into sucking others off for benefitProblematic much?
>>586476134
Would you report me for griefing if this was your lash
kinda crazy that they removed all of Lash's body hairThis is not canon
>>586476349i autoreport all lashes
>>586476345My beautiful wife
Holy fuck that body of yours is absurd
another ivy win
>>586476529Nobody should be interested in the gooky hoe when Ivy (confirmed virgin who wants to cook delicious Mexican food for her future husband) is in the game.
>>586476807Disgusting beautiful goyleI love her so much
>>586476807OK bro
I wanna get good at Mirage but he's such a joke hero.
>>586476807i don't even like ivy but this is just true
>>586476896
>buy egg in lane >spend all time in lane collecting candy >get bridge buff at 10 minutes >pop egg >trade in 20~ candy for more bridge buffs >shit on everyone with 2 gun buffs
>>586476958>51 fps
>>586476896Jist keep trying
>>586475779>That skill should be nerfed into the ground, and then they can make the rest of her shit better.Then there's no character, just a plodding M1 with no CC.And let's be real, the no skill argument doesn't make any sense when we had almost a year of Mo being one of the best assassin+frontliner in the game.McGee is a cool character, just hard to balance cuz Yoshi loves Marvel Rivals and every games tend to be decided not by taking Walkers but by brooling in Mid/Rift.I'm just mad that 90% of the time they make her shit rather than taking chances.
>>586476896>joke heroyou mean his lore or something? a good mirage isn't funny at all
>>586476807>Insults someone's waifu unptomptlyWhy the insecurity?
Just had Celeste in my lane who missed the first wave to go grab candy, came back only to get parried and donate like 6 candy to the enemiesWhen is this shit mechanic being removed
So Apollo is just shit now or what?
how come you can rank up with under 50% win rate?
>>586477236We got a Violet player, likely (You), who felt the need to make the OP their in-game stats, and you're calling someone else insecure?
>>586477320Today no?They are probably experimenting. Hope they never add it back though
>>586477369no goy just build melee like a good little goyim stop building spirit and build my forced melee vision I won't allow any builds other than the archetype I envision for the goyim
>>586477429>Being butthurt about OP Pic
>>586471515but I thought Haze was le OP?
>>586477429KEK you've been seething for more than a month now and gonna make it two because you can't call Violet players shit EVEN AFTER NERFS and say they're not playing the game
>>586477427rank protection and winstreak bonuses
>>586477536>>586477643Watch him call you guys troons or something, his modus operandi isn't that complex
>>586477702I get that but how is that fair?
>>586477191The wall is CC, and the heal has a ton of value except for the fact that you have to get the 5 point upgrade to make it worth a damn. McGunnis could be good with a few more targeted buffs and she can't get those buffs while the turrets are still shredding low elo lobbies.
>>586477429Spotting the resident Violetfag is too easy
>>586477749who said anything about fair
Kelvin is genuinely ridiculous, how does this guy not have 60% winrate?
>>586477749it's not, it's done to appease retards who care deeply about the aesthetics of rank
>Vyper's voice actress looks like THATHoly fucking lizard momma milky drinky squirty plappy
>>586477749It isn't. There are multiple people in the top 300 with negative winrates, and even more with 50% winrate. Hopefully valve either removes shields or just changes them all per rank to 1. Points would probably have to be reworked though.
Fact: Victor is the most honest hero in the game right nowI never want to hear another shitelo complain about him ever again
>>586477923he's ugly and gay so nobody plays him
>>586477923because he's only ridiculous in the late game and a lot of games are already over by that point
>>586477923He already has a high winrate, though
>>586478056Iirc it’s supposed to be a regular system from e1-e6
the violetfag would be based if he was into violet x dogs but he's cringe and gets pissy and cries and poopies his pants instead :^(
People need to accept not every character is meant to do everything.I'm tired of hearing Mo&Krill fags whine about having no more damage, if you want damage play someone else, your job is to eat cooldown and press 4 on the ennemy Wraith.Same with Bebop mongs when we're fortunate enough to have a patch where their retard character can't nuke someone 100% of the time for landing one 10 sec CD ability from across the map, WITH veilwalker.Same with Haze when they can't get free kills at minute 10 AND be as good as a fed Seven at minute 45.It's a common problem in those types of game, but i partially blame the Kill stats taking only last hits for that.
>>586478061Would be honest if his ult didn't proc while silenced/cursed
I just want to play Silver... why do you hate her so much Yoshi...
>>586477536Oh look, I guessed right
>>586478064People who want to victorymaxx tend to care less about visuals and lore>>586478073Just one point in his 3 and you can gank all over the map with the gay ass gigaslow>>586478108Sure but how is he only A tier and not S tier? I tried him out because I saw him in patch notes and the guy is fucking obscene
what is the "good" kelvin build?beam max?
>>586478251she just got a massive buff though? unkillable in lane
>>586476958That's... really pathetic
>>586478202>expecting the average moron drooler vydia gamer (and by extension most people here) to understand the nuances of good play in a moba past "muh kills" or "muh damage"kek
>>586477923He has a very high winrate already, but his one of his few flaw is that he has a pathetic damage output early on ( Maybe the lowest but don't quote me on that ), so lots of retards tend to get steamrolled out of the game, instead of actively ganking relying more on your utility, until becoming truly a menace late game.He also have some poor MUs, but otherwise, yeah he's a dev favorite.
>>586478486They will listen to these people at some point anyway, happened with Dota, will happen with 'Lock
>>586478251Literally a better Shiv atm
>>586478396Winrates don't mean anything unless its something like 60%+ like baba, generally it just reflects how easy the character is or how hard it is to pilotWraith is comically OP for example but has like a 51% winrate and pickrate because the hero is popular with the least skilled people in the game.Pocket, Mirage and Shiv typically have very low WRs but are broken as fuck, its just that they're not auto-pilot material
George Romero's Deadlock (2026)
street brawl is fun but ARAM (all random, all mid) is an entirely better modeand ARAM mayhem (periodically draft an augment card which offer powerful effects and enhancements) captures the RNG drafting aspect far better
Trophy Collector keeps giving you money while the game is paused but only if the pause is initiated by someone playing Nurse Harrow Use this information for good or evil
how the fuck do you counter Trapper? legit the most busted character in the game
>YE THANK AM BAD NAE? WAET TIL A GET GOIN!
>undocumented model touch ups of Mirage, Billy and Victorpretty strange but at least nice to know the model work is continuous. now gib reworks.
why is arctic beam just a better bebop ult
i’m new so don’t beat the crap out of me but idk when i should use warden ult?the startup is slow so i get stunned out of it if i use it close, and if i use it far then the duration is wastedam i meant to use it to tank enemy ults after they use their stuns?
>game starts>mcniggers says he's playing support
>>586478202The point of Deadlock is that you can customize your character to your playstyle and roles like "carry" and "support" aren't hard-coded into the characters tho
I really hope the shop reworks comes sooner rather than later. The items really do feel super stale when you think about them for more than 2 seconds, every function has only one generic item and then like extra 20% of them being active utility.
heded tu bloo
>>586479103viableyou're shit
>>586479050I swear they've also touched up Silver, Graves and Lash. Their clothes now has these subtle tone shifts (usually going from darker low and lighter high) to make them feel less artificial.
>>586479050hollidays gun is still grey
>>586478852Hey horrorman, I think you got the wrong general, /dbdg/ is two threads down.
>>586479102Use a jump dash before you cast it. The ult doesn't interup ongoing forwards momentum
>>586476958>deadlock on psppretty kino
>>586479438i was thinking that in my head kekand people do complain about trapper over there
>>586479438(a joke about the unreleased hero labs character Trapper from the video game Deadlock)
What kind of gun should Warden have post-remodel?
>>586479558AR-15
>>586479558remove guns from the game
All builds end in Spirit, lmao. Itemization is so linear.
Which summoner should I play if my friends are retards with literally zero macro>don't show up to rifts>don't run urn>don't steal enemy jungle>don't collapse on one or two retards ganking our team in our own jungle>don't show up to midboss no matter how much someone says "WE NEED TO DO MIDBOSS NOW!!!"
>>586478108i thought baba got nerfed
>>586479558Something like a shortened lewis gun, keep the same general profile as what he's got now.
>>586479021dox with parasex
>>586479558i am not sure about the look but one of the fan remodels had the gun be curved with a bunch of runes that alchemically turned the bullet into stronger quicksilver or some other mythological material as he fired it. and i think is an amazing idea.
>>586478108>"A tier" Kelvin sandwiched between all those "S tier" heroesOne of these things does not belong
>>586479558fancied up BAR would be cool, i dont think anyone currently has something similaror this old french piece of shit
Lash sex
Many fall in the face of chaos, but not this one - not today.
>>586479765They factor pick rate in an undisclosed way into their arbitrary calculation of tiers
When they changed how slows interact with dashes was when Kelvin became op because he shuts down troonvement hard
Venator sex
>>586472420>lose miserably in lane>ok lets just farm>they keep pushing and take walker in 10 minutes-_-
>>586479823t. Ivy>>586480202t. Silver
>>586480313Ivy doesn't know what sex is
>>586480381Ivy 100% knows what sex is but is unable to participate because she is completely featureless
>>586480313finally, a sensible shipper who knows (sounds like a contradiction in terms but is actually just inordinately rare)
>>586472040Why the FUCK does Shiv have almost the same amount of HP as Abrams?The monkey flies all over the screen while bleeding you to death without even looking at you and then decks you in the face for 1.6K with his alt.In what fucking world is this considered balanced?
Do people use sharpshooter on Venator?He is so damn immobile that I feel like as a relatively new player, playing him long range like this is the way to go.Otherwise I always end up getting picked off first despite being decently tanky simply because I am as slow as a turtle.
>>586479639A giga carry like victor
>>586480513very high skill cap character please understandbig risk reward thats why he needs 1 gorillion hp base+25% extra free effective hp from passive(in lane, 55% maxed) and unlimited mobilityvery fair and balanced we cant nerf him
>>586480636Spirit victor is a bit worse in this patch but if you're below phantom or oracle then no one is consistently buying heal bane so its free elo.
I like the weapon names in this game. they made me crack a little smile when i first read them.
>>586472389
>>586480971haze if she cute
Why did Valve even designate the Venator as a new ayer friendly character. You need good aim, and more important good positional awareness to make him work. Otherwise his traps are just duds, sdame with his shotgun if you don't position for the stun. You are also going to feed if you get overzealous with him since he has no free get out of jail cards. Abrams or Viktor are much more simple.
>>586480971dumping a load on her cookie and then spreading it around like frosting afterwards
>>586481080did they?and yeah he's not new player friendly >Viktoralso not new player friendly people feed on him all the timeshould have said Billy
>>586480636>A giga carry like victorincorrect, you get counter swapped with Baba and they can stack healbane now.
>>586481175>BillyYou mean mr "I'm going 0/6 in lane because I can't stop holding down Q?" Billy ain't for new players either
>>586480971fox haze x rem /ss/ send tweet
I just execute every game I see with a bomb geist in itSimply won't interactWizard playing the strength build
>>586481335is this a haiku?
>>586481247that might be true considering how much bitching I see in these threadsit's just not hard to play him at all once you stop crutching melee
How viable is Bomba Bebop?
>>586481080Melee heroes are not good for new players because they will get parried, even shitty lobbies hit a parry every once in a whileVictor is slow and has to damage himself to do damage, so it's also a no-goVenator is friendly specifically because he's "pure" aim, it's a skill that transfer between games
>>586481175Yes they did. He is I guess the most basic shooter type of character which is probably why, but he is also one of the least forgiving characters in the game. Billy also has his combos, he is definitely more complicated than Abrams and Viktor.
>>586481394>at poopy lowamazing>at anything above brickterrible
>>586481262Silver spottedCute
>>586479204>aren't hard-coded into the characters thoDepends what you mean by hard coded, you're free to build melee Harrow, but it's unreasonable of you to ask buffs for that playstyle because Abrams or Billy are more efficient at meleeing than you.
how is warden after the buffs
>>586481416>Melee heroes are not good for new players because they will get parried,Using Abrams in new player lobbies is literally farming elo. Most never even parry and the few that occasionally do aren't accustomed enough to it to make a difference.
>>586481447>ViktorOh shit, new hero?
>>586481454Guess standard play remains where I hook
>>586481659yeah bomb bebop is just too easily countered by literally anyone with an iq above 1 probably the most easily countered thing in the entire game
>>586481754That's what I figured
>Bleh bleh bleh
>>586477320https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1illg1acB2II was watching this video and this person did the same thing (although they did not miss the wave) so I imagine it's just some shitter copying youtubers
>>586481920isn't this kinda racist?
>>586481920If they ever release another vampire i think the only viable option would be a stereotypical nosferatu with the accent and everything.
When I play Infernus I get the most dogshit games ever. I got a Bebop that died 10 times in the first 15 minutes.
>>586479348There's no such thing as a dedicated support in Deadlock. If you overfarm others - you're a carry by default.
>harrow on team>she goes for a gun build instead of healing>goes 1/11/4Why the fuck do people play Mrs. Healer McHealerson and build damage?
Man even a mediocre six stack is night and day compared to playing with randos. I feel like I've won almost every standard game where people were on mics
I immediately go spirit Geist when I see my support steals my boxes
>>586482094leeches give hella fire ratebricklows think this means she has carry potentialmany such cases in literally every moba
>>586482092Those sentences have nothing to do with each other
>>586474415every rank is nigger hell nigga i am eternus 4 still get retards like these while enemy gets any dlns player with their sissy duo
I thought Seeker was supposed to be a low rank, why is everyone here so good at the game?
>>586482241>t.Brick
>>586470745>people still begging for Celeste nerfs after she was nerfed 3 times in a row>one of which was a balance patch dedicated to nerfing herIt doesn't matter the rank, if a player needs to interact with the game's systems any more than run forwards and hold m1, they take it personally.
What in the ever loving fuck were they thinking with these Healbane buffs?Lifesteal is fucking useless now.Did spirit niggers really have a hard time nuking people in 1.2 seconds?
>>586476958How do I get my deadlock to look like this so I can get rid of my input delay?
>>586482385>>people still begging for Celeste nerfs after she was nerfed 3 times in a rowYep, she was THAT broken.Though honestly i think there's a few characters more problematic right now, i feel like she's not undeserving of a few more strong nerfs, let her know what mid tier feels like at least.
Is Mirage doomed to be shit in solo play forever?
my cope is that this patch and the upcoming few ones are just purely temporary bandage patches because they know there is no point doing big sweeping changes before a shop rework.
>>586482425healing was broken so they decided to kill leech effects as well instead of just nerfing the broken healing
For victor players, I think you still buy mystic regen you just never upgrade it/replace it late game. Treat it as a replacement for extra regen since it no longer upgrades into healing boosterI'm still testing, for the early game 4.8k spirit rush
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>586482425Celese and violet abused the shit out of Radiant Regen which made it a problem. Plus Wraith asspulling 2K worth of healing becasue of her cards and Radiant as well.
where can I find this mod
>>586482362>t.BrickWhy is a brickoid trying to tell other people they're bricks while spouting its bricky nonsense?
>>586482092lemme go gun carry harrow
>>586482332Your new rank depends on your previous rank and the rank of the players in your calibration matches if you were Eternus 6 and calibrated during the first week you were placed in "Oracle" lobbies with other Eternus 6 players however if you calibrate now you'll be matched with actual Oracles because everyone has already ranked up as a result of that you might end up with a lower new rank than expected since so many returning players are still completing their calibration ranked is kinda fucked
>>586482548>Yep, she was THAT broken.Nope. Winrate wise she tied with Vyper, but complaints weren't targeted towards her because they could just hold m1 and walk forwards to get free mmr. Kelvin and Victor were also close. She was not an anomaly. Out of all of them she was hit the hardest because of community discourse, not for deeper balancing reasons.>let her know what mid tier feels like at least.She was C tier for most her runtime in the game until the dumbfuck Yoshi buffed her ult for no reason.
is there any better feeling than igniting someone for half their health on Nigfernus?
>>586482752Dunno, but it's Lynae's bikini from WuWa
>>586482385>gee why dont people want the semi-unkillable aoe spamming zero gravity hero to be strong enough that they're still almost guaranteed pick/ban in pro gamesgonna need to really activate my almonds for this one>>586482425spiggers rushing radiant regen/their already unreasonable in-kit healing is the reason healbane got juiced like it did, as well as the existence of harrow who is going to be an ongoing balance nightmaredevs needs to take a huge look at in combat healing in general, making anti-heal completely mandatory in every game is a bandaid fix at best
valve is a trans-ally game dev studio and deadlock is canonically a transbian game :3
>>586483140Here's that attention you desperately want (that your parents never gave you)
>>586483140Source?
>>586482385truthnuke
They need to give Nurse Harrow the RR treatment.
>>586482772Go on, what's stopping you?
>>586482447>my input delay?just say you have a toasteranyways, here.https://gamebanana.com/mods/692484https://gamebanana.com/mods/690233or if you're REALLY desperate, this one. though i'd say this one should be a last resort.https://gamebanana.com/mods/664234
>>586483202the gutter
>>586482772If Surefour (eternus 6) can make it work, then you have no excuse, lol.>permanent 10 stack Berserker and Blood Tribute is... LE BAD, o algo
characters that don't need to farm that much? I'm fine with breaking boxes a long the way but i don't wanna sit in lanes doing pve shit, it's boring. I need 3
>>586482948>semi-unkillable Your Curse? Your Phantom Strike?>aoe spammingThe AOEs that do zero damage to the point where no one builds for it outside of lane. That it's only purpose is to operate as warning shots that Celeste is (about) to go in. Yeah, okay.>to be strong enough that they're still almost guaranteed pick/ban in pro gamessurely she's currently dominating high ranked lobbies, oh wait>below 50% winrate in all ranks above Oracle+also>muh nightshiftIt's a small handful of people, so their pick and ban rates are not representative of a larger playerbase as opposed to their own personal mains and choices.
>Mina when she sees you at half health in laning phase
>>586483493You are playing the wrong fucking gameIt's a mobaNo one wants a 10k souls behind TURD on their teamGo play Marvel Rivals or Overwatch
>>586483493Calico drifter danny
>>586483610Drifter and Danny farm my bussy
>>586483531I'll give you a pity (You) but it really is sad how you ritualpost this every thread and get no replies.
>>586483561i don't like those games, they are boring and repetitive, killing creeps and doing nothing but pushing lanes is boring too. I wanna fight, steal THEIR creeps (that's fun cause it's stealing :]), schmoove around, pop off, etc etc
>>586472081Heart used to work like Fortitude in Dota before it was reworked, retard.
>>586482831Winrates are too flawed, they're influenced by ease of use, how hard a character will carry a weak player to a higher MMR ( Thus making a strong character look weak at high level ), how a shit character will seem stronger at higher MMR because of OTP, how a recent nerf will brutally tank a WR by causing shit player to fall to their accurate MMR, and so on.If you think i'm coping, then you acknowledge that Mirage is the weakest character in the game and that Shiv for his entire existence has never ever been good ( Below 50% WR at all level, since his release )
>>586483284>LE BAD, o algoWho spammed this shitty buzzwordWhy are you (((ironically))) talking like a spaniard
>>586483764then play Jeet BrawlYou will be a useless turd BROOLer if you don't farm in standard play
>>586483816i wanna farm by doing sick killz and stealing their farm under their nose and fuck off laughing
>>586483810It's a sharty thing
>>586483893>>586483764Not how it works in MOBAs brown boy.
>>586472040>why do heroes have identity?>there should be 3 base hp buckets based on which overwatch role the hero belongs to
>>586483802>winrates are skewed by the worst and best playersagreed>winrates don't mean anything even when filtering by skill levelDisagree, it's a good way to filter the previously mentioned phenomenon. If someone has a bad winrate even in the top percentile, then it's indicative the top percentile can't pilot them.>shiv and mirage are badIn this current patch, yes.
>>586483493Silver! Because she can't farm for shit.
>>586483810It's a way to make fun of browns, aka (You)
>>586483802>Winrates are too flawed, they're influenced by ease of use, how hard a character will carry a weak player to a higher MMRThis is why people keep stratifying winrates by ranking, bricky! You're deliberately ignoring that, I notice!
>>586484123
>>586484171epic quote sir did you find it on reddit?
>>586483810it came from mentally broken sharty subhumansfirst they spammed interracial cuck porn everywhere "ironically"now they use Latinx slang "ironically"
>>586482385Yeah well that's what you get when you attack MOBA players AND shooter players AND hero shooter players
>>586484232nta.If you believe this basic commonplace quote is something you had to find on reddit then holy fuckIs the new generation like actually retarded or
>>586482856*nigniting
>>586484101>run into a team fight>ult>die>respawn>ult is ready again>repeat
>>586484368Clearly a fucking joke you retardThat quote and image has circulated 4chan for over a decade at this pointIt says gullible on your ceiling btw
>>586478851holy jeetcode
>>586484416Silver ult trading the enemy team is unironically bis and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.
>Vindicta with perfect aim buys Trophy Collector and has no macro sensehmmmm... curious...
I made a tier list of the men based on how much I want to have sex with them.
>>586484672I did the same with dogs
>>586483140Disgusting bi and lesbian erasure. Both Silver and Violet are real women, which makes it yuri and if they were mutilated men it wouldn't be yuri.Crazy how troons are trying to claim yuri with their disgusting surgeries and mutilations from real women to the point they have to call it wlw in order to not be associated with troons.
>>586484723seething
>>586478851yoshi not beating the ai generated patch note allegations
>>586484723holy schizo
the dog posts make much more sense when you realize the person behind them is a literal tranny
>>586484840same with the yuriposts
>>586484840Most low quality posts do
>>586484840I'm a white dude with zero intentions to chop off my cock actually and thank you
>>586482871a true goonoisseur...thanks
>MirageWill always be a weak solo que character since Mirage's entire character archetype requires coordination and communication with your team. When your team doesn't listen to you and tells you to fuck off, you lose. His winrate reflects this>ShivVery mechanically intensive and demanding character that requires the player to understand all the movement tech, the ins and outs of aggressive laning, and how to aim. His winrate is impacted by people who aren't good at Shiv trying to play Shiv because they keep hearing good players say he's broken. The fact that he's been nerfed 500 times and his winrate has largely stayed in the same spot is proof of this.>WardenActually just a bad character. His kit has no depth and relies on stat checking and then they took away his ability to stat check
i pray every day that they wont add jungler as a role or a jungler hero.
>>586474620>What is even Graves' purpose at this point?Pushing, walkers can't deal with the summons and the enemy needs to bring at least 2 heroes to stop you. She is not that bad, but she's carried by wall summoning 2 zombies. I would welcome a rework. Also she has a secondary purpose which is sex.
I just noticed "o algo" is because people end their posts with "or something" and "doe, thougheverbeit" is because they end their post with though
characters for antisocial people that want to do their own thing and don't communicate that much outside of pings?
>>586485129
>>586485082>he doesn't know about drifter or calico>>586484986The fact that whoever designed Vyper and whoever designed Warden still have jobs at Valve is kind of wild. Actually chilling.
>>586485197Any character that wins 1v1s and has a free escape when it turns 1v2. Drifter, haze, wraith etc.
>>586485197Drifter (rape on his mind)Abrams (hulk rage)Mo and Krill (rape on their mind)
>>586485197WraithHazeReally most M1s except Venator because Venator wants to be playing super active and needs his team to help and play with him rather than AFK farming
I think Oath Keeper and Warden’s back pocket hand should hold handsLich is not welcomed here though
>mod commissions>paid patreons>paid mods
>>586485414>hand collector character>after Oath Keeper, the cut hands from the Baxter society, Wardens back pocket hand, The lich hand
>>586485676Valve is going to allow people to sell their skin on Steam and take a cut
I really hope the item update is good. The game feels like it's in a really boring state right now.
So when are we gonna talk about how overpowered Vyper is?
>>586485823>rape vyper on lane>30 minutes later the shitter playing as her can't miss a shot because of split shot and does 10000 damage a second
>>586485823God forbid a niche character have positive winrate at high rank
how the fuck do i play warden if im behind soul count wise
>>586486113start a new game and dont get behind on souls
>>586485992>>586486005Vyper is one of the most counterable heros in the game, are high rankers stupid?
>>586486113hit creeps, hit boxes, hit sinners
They will return and we must be ready!
>>586486005She's only niche because she's annoying to play, but she's absolutely overpowered>Pops unstop and then slides at mach 5 while deleting you through metal skinwow what a balanced character
why is there a silver in literally every single fucking game
>>586486113Play to scale, Warden is pound by pound the biggest gorilla lategame. So splitpush and rat as much as you can
You are perfection, Haze.
>>586486257white man craves the cookie
Man.
>>586486257Cause she is strong as fuck this patch
>>586485740Does he use explosives
>>586486227>youre down 160k souls to 210k>you hear the midboss sound as your base is still being flooded>the rejuvenator is descennnndiiiiing....>they have the rejuvenator, we gotta play this smart!>three teammates get caught outside the base so we dont even get a full teamfight>they push in and kill the rest of as, at most we get one or two rejuvs down>defeat
>>5864863740.5 health regen buff why is this hero HITLER
>>586486362
Another reminder that Baba got a huge block of nerfs and multiple of her items nerfed and she's still breaking 60% winrate
>>586486463It's actually unreal how many retards run out of base when the enemy team has rejuv to farm jungle or try to push lanes.Never saw this shit in League, genuine mental illness.
>>586486463It makes me laugh how the enemy team will get rejuv, and my retarded team will think,”man, we really should push their advantage!”
>>586486531type shit
>>586486586fundamentally broken kit that will only have a normal winrate if she either loses mechanics or has her numbers absolutely obliterated
>enemy team has Yamato and/or Silver>they go 10-0 and just rape the entire lobby>my team has Yamato and/or Silver>they are inbred Marvel Rivals players/trannies and just die on repeat and the Yamato players in particular blame everyone else for itI fucking hate the subhuman dysgenic freaks who play these fucking characters.
>>586484073>>586484164A Wraith shitter that gets carried by his character might end up in Ascendant, nerf his character to be acceptable, he'll end up back in Ritualist and below, tanking win rates in the mean time, while a competent player would theorically maintain 50% in this example.It's only one example of why WR, especially when stratified by rank ( If you look at WR from a range besides the very top of or very bottom you're retarded btw ), is a faulty measurement.Add other factors, like two men queue being more common the higher you go, pick trend influenced by streamer and patches, not everyone running the same builds, smaller data set at higher level etc.Worst thing is, i know you retards don't really accept the WR for top 1% ranked as an accurate measurement, everytime you guys just use it as an excuse to downplay and upplay.
>>586486586>>586486767I warned you this would happen unless you listened to me and embraced this game's shooter elements over MOBA elements but you didn't listen.
>>586486619Top down vs third person, IQ debuff.Also in League everything is burst damage so positioning matters immensely.
>>586486463only HE can save this game>ready to use refresher!
>>586486362Based Danny
>>586486619in league literally everyone, from iron to challenger, knows not to fight when the enemy team has elder dragonthis game people seem to take the rejuvs as like a challenge or something
I love it when "people" try to discredit using winrates to measure the strength of a hero by pointing out Shiv, Shiv is not that good either, he works best as a team effort, he's the literal executionerHe's also one of the more advanced heroes with his m2 movement bullshit
>>586486619I do this to soft throw and end the game faster :^)
erm its in le alpha bro why are you taking this game so seriously*Runs at the rejuved enemy team solo*
>>586487018Immediately discredited your own post by trying to downplay Shiv
>>586486835>that's right goys, you can't trust anything except me, everything is nebulous and down to feelings, all these statistics you use are meaningless because i made up an outlierAre you really still trying to pull this? Why?
>>586486954It's cause this game is remotely palatable to shooter-tards at all. All shooter-niggers know how to do is press W and perma-brawl the enemy. Alienate the shooter playerbase by leaning more into the MOBA side and this stops happening.
>>586487018You literally just proved their point lmaoShiv's winrate doesn't tell the whole story. That's why winrates can't be taken as the end all be all
>>586486463you can save this fairly often by saying something on voice chat>see retards walking out of base while enemy has rejuv>"they have rejuv, we should play safe and stay near the base"they turn around and come back to base at least 55% of the time in my experience. the key to being IGL with randoms is to talk like a school teacher and tell them what to do without hurting their ego>see teammate alone deep in enemy territory obviously about to get collapsed on>"hey [character] you're in deep be careful they might collapse on you"they usually turn aroundif they don't then you just have to accept that the game is over
Deadlock should not have been a shooterslop game.
The more i play this game the more i feel like it's genuinely fucking garbage
>>586487406Remove guns and parry, game becomes measurably better.
>>586471330>hiskek>>586471946That's not him, that's his wife. It's an easy mistake, since they're basically identical. You can tell because his wife is slightly more masculine and less fat.
>>586487429The itemization is actual fuckiing garbage
When did people stop saying "grippers"?
>>586487405>you can save this fairly often by saying something on voice chatOr shooter players can just stop being retarded gorilla niggers, unbind the W key and fucking not run it down vs Rejuv. The lack of gamesense in these apes tells me they have room temp IQ and need to be euthanized irl for the good of the fucking human gene pool
>>586487595My boyfriend still does so I'm forced to wear socks all the time.
>Mobasissies seething that FPSGODS are better than them>>5864875952-3 years? The hip thing to say is dogs now
>>586487406>>586487429>>586487517nobody's forcing you to playfeel free to go back to League of Faggots
>>586486504It's because the AoE nerfs help her + danny isnt in every game
>>586482385People think that a hero being more than just a healthbar for a farmed m1 to chew through is unacceptableCeleste is strong, she's not overpowered, and that's perfectly fine, the nature of her kit makes it so that she needs to be strong to be functional.Otherwise she'd be like Silver, an undertuned shitshow whose ult fucks her over half the time
>>586487595after covid people started holding things with their hand again so the term "gripper" doesn't work
>>586487429yeah but it's just fun to jump around and shoot stuff
>>586487615everything you said is true but when it comes to herding retards and trying to point them towards victory against their natural inclination to hold W and throw the game, you have to pretend that they're real people or else they'll just get mad and start throwing even harder
>>586471535I started playing in the spring and got placed as Seeker II after losing my first few matches where I was just playing heroes for the first time and fucking around.I was Ritualist within a week after that, so the initial placement seems low. I don't know what my current rank would be, I haven't bothered placing this season because you can't do placement matches while in a party, and I don't play without my friends any more.
>>586487429gameplay is incredible and makes moba mechanics much more fun to interact with(i still love dota but deadlock doesnt raise my blood pressure close to as much)balance is pretty spotty and i dont think they genuinely know what they're doing currently, probably a symptom of the partially complete/unreleased item reworki dont want to see any new heroes for at least 9 months, they have enough problems to fix as is with the current batch
>>586473681>Bro why does my 3 not work? I'm clicking the button!>It's a passive retard>oh ...
>tfw finally getting the hang of Abrams in these overtuned early game rapefests>ending games positive (no one cares about assists)>getting game-winning picks>honestly getting most of the picks whereas my team just ints on repeat if I'm not there>all it takes is me using my microphoneI'm preparing myself for when this faggot gets buffedI wish this character wasn't so starved for stats so I could actually grab the disarming hexes, etc, my team refuses to buy
If any character was turned from female to male, who would be the most interesting to be swapped?Vice versa as wellImo, Vyper being male would make them more interesting, but there’s no one who could capture the same voice essence Similarly, I think Grey Talon could work as an actual grandma
>>586487660People have been saying dogs forever. "My dogs are barking," after a hard day's work or a long walk is a common expresion.
>>586488094Mina should be swapped be should still look and sound the same (while clothed).
NEVER WIN FIGHTS, NO MATTER THE ODDS
>>586488101I wish Calico was a guy and wasn't a nigger. And instead of a cat he turned into a tiger
>>586487126Because when you deal with a nebulous question "What character is strong" in a game with so many moving parts, where things change so quickly, you'd be retarded to put so much blind faith into such a brute metric.A better metric would be to compare the average difference in rank/WR/MMR of a character vs another played by the same player, over a very large amount of player, ideally at a high level.Not perfect data by any mean, still influenced by ease of use, but i'd consider it a more relevant metric.You guys should browse /sp/ more.
>>586486463>4 people dead>enemy going for midboss>lone teammate goes to contest midboss anyway (his ult is on cd or has no good teamfight ult to begin with)>dies immediately, fails stealing rejuv>we are now down one guy for the next teamfightHow many times must this happen before these retards learn that just because you can doesn't mean you should
>>586488292>You guys should browse /sp/ more.
>>586488274Honestly based. Make them oriental or something and turn into a tiger like Violet was supposed to have or summon or whatever
>>586488094Also>twice this game they parried me after I landed tier 2 charge>but Billy hit me through parry 3 timesgetting real sick of this shit
>>586488251RUN FOR YOUR PITIFUL LIVES
there needs to be more characters that are straight up evil
Give it to me straight guys. Is Geist dead after the RR nerf, or is there a decent replacement I'm not seeing?
>>586482094She needs consistant damage to put out consistant healing
>celeste buildthoughts?
>>586488274I'm glad people like you get filtered out of playing this hero
>>586487913Balance isn't spotty at all. The DLC heroes did throw a bit of a curveball, but that's to be expected, new kits need to be a bit overtuned for the sake of data collection.Overall you will very rarely get character diffed in Deadlock. Strong or weak is very relative and also extemely subjective and prone to individual player performances.People said Graves was the weakest character in the game for months, then suddenly she gets hit by multiple nerfs after people figured out a build and playstyle on her. That wasn't caused by a minor health boon buff the patch before.
>>586488640Hard to do without being the worse kind of edgy and not in the fun way. If Violet is any indication of valves current writing, I dunno man
>>586488742gee billy, your mom let's you have TWO shielding items?
>>586488742u don't need to build damage on Celeste
Calico is completely fine as is. Personality wise, design wise, lore wise, voice acting, kit, etc. I give her the "Black Kween" pass, and I am a megachud. She's allowed to be DEI brown woman slop, we'd have to have at least one or two anyway, so she is the best case scenario. I allow it.My only one tiniest teensist request is to NOT cuck out and make her repentant or "actually tried to miss Pocket" or whatever. Let her be evil as fuck, Devil wears Prada ass snobby bitch. That's what makes her good.
>>586488743Okay Bazz haircut nigger
>>586488845triple barrier is really funny on squishy heroes
ill try to suck as many cocks as i can
>Silver ricoshit shits out only 1(one) single pelletFucking kek.
>>586488918Dogshit design, dogshit lore, dogshit personality. A dindu nuffin character like literally all the niggers except she's extra smug compared to the other niggers who are all the best in lore and loved by everyone and have no enemies and can win every single verbal confrontation against any other race
>>586488918>My only one tiniest teensist request is to NOT cuck out and make her repentant or "actually tried to miss Pocket" or whatever. Let her be evil as fuck, Devil wears Prada ass snobby bitch. That's what makes her good.This + give her a hairline with baby hairs pattern, more gloss on her lips and a bubble butt
>>586488872>u don't need to build damage on Celestewhat are you gonna do when the other team inevitably buys spirit res?
>>586488918By the same token I love that Mcginnis is a fat bitch that tells people to their face like, Yeah I'd burn down an orphanage for a paycheck. They don't all need to be morally gray characters who are lashing out at the world because they got diddled when they were kids.
>Get a winstreak by just casually raping lobbies>Games get progressively harder and opponets develop brains making me actually have to fight for my wins>Winstreak increases>suddenly my team consists of drooling niggers that feed 10 kills at 9 mintues and both other lanes lose>Like cockwork>Every single time
>>586472619Gaming subreddits really need to make seperate reddits for cosplay. Between the ethots and troons some of them literally become unusable
Torrment pulse should be a green item
Okay but what the FUCK did they do to parriesIt's been this way for two patches now Yoshi. Why is this shit so inconsistent? Why can their fist literally travel through the blue barrier and beat your ass? Why can they parry early while stunned?
In my headcanon McGinnis subconsciously feel bad for building the Ixian Toddler Destroyer Mk3 but since she isn't indisputably responsible, she isn't that bothered by it, and cope by putting on an attitude and stuffing her face.
wow MK are just kinda shit now huh
leaked upcoming item, coming with the next big patch
Trying to unlock Nurse Harrow in standard is torture, the matchmaking is so bad compared to ranked.
>>586489612So why have I gotten one on my team in the past 4 games
My headcanon is that Holliday enjoys impact play and this is a big contributing factor in all of her divorces
I've made so much slop of Graves with a massive dick railing my OC waifu
have the hero labs characters been completely wiped clean off the game? like zero mention of them in the files now?
>gun characters (aside from wraith and haze) have to work extremely hard to get kills and they get cucked by items>spirit characters can just nuke your whole healthbar even with resistswhat a wonderful game
>>586489621guh
>>586489714I unlocked her when she was playable in ranked and now refuse to play her because she's garbage
>>586489748Like spanking or getting beat up?Cannot imagine Holliday as a dom, but i can't imagine her being freaky enough to enjoy getting punched
>>586489918>garbageShe has nearly perfect 50/50 win rate. Do you mean "balanced"?
>>586488094>disarming hexIsn't this a psyop item?People just erase that shit past the mid game.
hmmm.....
>>586488742Since you get Tormented Pulse anyway, why not also take RR? It's still good on Celeste and synergizes nicely with TP
Focus lens lash?
>>586490050It forces a counterbuy. And anyone that's the type to buy Dispel is also looking to use it, so it can be used to make them unable to burn something elseBasically it gets you two kills on their hyperfed carry before they can reasonably counter it and even then it usually still has value on someone. Also it's meant to be a support getting it's a good trade
>>586489163Suck them off? What question is this?
>been watching pinnkpawz for high rank celeste footage>only ever watch muted>assume it's an axewound tranny because people in the comments use "she">watch with sound for once>it's an actual girlwtf
>>586488918 It's the hairI unironically hate the hairIt's a haircut for stupid ten year oldsIt's like if the Lash had Broccoli hair I know it's 'culture' but even Solomon has generic ass braids and still looks cool because he's old and it fits the white/black chess schemeCalico has what, an Egyptian cat? She doesn't even have that statue theme in her herolabs anymore so she just looks lazy. Eventual cosmetics will fix her, as usual.I also hate how they reused her VA for Harrow. Didn't even try to make them sound different. Just like Danny.
>>586490158there are like 10 6.4k's that I would buy before, but it's probably not bad
>>586489953>cannot imagine Holliday as a domHer ult is straight bondage and she throws explosives at you
>>586490319Yeah the B in BDSM stands for Bomb
>mothman>Cadence>monkey king>normal dude wagie>slork>sewer crocodile (might be the mid boss?)after ratking. what other fan favorite hero ideas we are practically bound to get?
>>586488918I like her too man. I think she's pretty cool even though I can't play her and I hate playing against her. I just think she needs some texture touch ups
>people say Celeste is trans because she tells them they're an unicorn and people don't believe it
>>586489992she does not
>>586490319You think Abrams would beat his wife cuz he punch people in the ritual too?She's a traumatized country girl who's on the verge of breakdown.
>>586488101lore wise: apollo, more conflict with Ixian politics putting themselves in danger as a princessmuh dick: drifter, what if evil person (but woman)>>586488274black panther???marbel rival???>>586489086>dindu nuffin she's literally employing hitmengo back to /pol/ tourist
>>586490461Honestly, even as someone who isn't a chud, it's just fucking sad to see. Just say you want to draw futa horsecock, I can respect that more for at least being said in good faith.
>>586472449you mean shiv, the hero that was the best hero in the game a week ago?
I guess Celeste is still broken
>>586490519Her ult legit feels like it does nothing now and you are better off healing during a teamfight than using it.
>go through hero ideas forum>every design before 2026 is peak and has actually been added to the game one way or another. or really should get added.>every design in 2026 is blatant shitty art OC with zero connection to the game
Why do you people think there's an item update in the works?Did they confirm it?
>>586490520>You think Abrams would beat his wife cuz he punch people in the ritual tooAbrams isn't an alcoholic who's been through 2 divorces
>>586490863Yes multiple times Yoshi has talked about it. It was supposed to come before the hero update but they delayed it
>>586490710>47 minute match>only Celeste counter is slowing hexUnless that Yamato was playing out of her mind you guys were destined to lose.Deadlock is a cheesy game. For most the roster you do not counter play, you counter buy. You did not attempt to counter buy even at like 55k souls team average.
>>586478527I wouldn't call kelvin a dev favorite, but the entire reason for his existence is his dome that nobody uses correctly. it's the best anti "aoe slop" in the game that nobody uses correctly and griefs with in low-mid elos
>>586488785Celeste and Wraith have been top picks for ever
>>586488918Idk, people who dislike Calico are kinda weird considering her character is sort of inoffensive?Like, the fact that she is black is seemingly entirely irrelevant for her character, just as how it is irrelevant to Grey Talon's character that he is a native. Her model is admittedly unpolished, but like, we got Sinclair in the game and no one hates on them for their model (even though Henry and Savannah are also black).As for character writing, hers is competent. She tends to play a straightman role in conversations, but overall its very clear that>she is obsessed with her cat>she is amoral and money driven>she likes to put on airs of old money even though she is new money>she has some complex feeling towards her former mentorAt the same time, I won't just call people who dislike her racist, because I don't see the same complaints about Wraith, Mirage or Infernus.
>>586490531>she's literally employing hitmenAnd yet the worst any other character says about her is "I think her cat is stupid" or "you betrayed the Baxter Society"She's a dindu nuffin you fucking retard. All the niggers are. Literally zero consequences and they're the only ones poking fun at others and are completely immune to criticism by the rest of the cast, but in her case despite being the most amoral of the bunch, she's also the one who gets to act smug to everyone the most
>>586490734yeah last game I played on her I kept getting yelled at for not using my ult. Like I can press the button that does nothing, but I'd rather just heal all of you to full HP
Holliday being a multiple divorcee is not canon to me, reeks of SBI filth and is therefore not canon, just like Pocket's pronouns
>>586491156people complain about wraith all the time. it's just people whining about 2 percent of the cast being black chicks
>>586491302she just doesnt seem old enough to me to have had multiple divorcesshe looks like she could be 30 at the absolute oldest
>>586491169>She's a dindu nuffinYou're a /pol/fag that doesn't know what that even means. She's canonically a serial killer, no one recognizes that as innocent. Vyper thinks Calico is "just like her" which pisses her off because to an extent it's correct.>Literally zero consequencesThat's the entire roster because the story doesn't move forward you pseudointellectual faggot. If they exist now they will continue to exist tomorrow. Status quo can't/won't change.yeah bros is Drifter white privilege, he's not in jail yet??? #iamverysmart
>>586491302>>586491450Guess how brown these posters are
>>586490852>every design before 2026 is peakwhich ones
>>586491275>>586490734You guys realize right that when Harrow ults, it essentially guarantees that the enemy can't deal effective damage for multiple seconds since they literally can't aim at your teammates?
>>586491450That too, she looks like she's in her mid 20s
>>586491536greetings from bengaluru
this current patch just makes it really obvious yoshi has no fucking clue what he's doing with this game's balance
>>586485676>Deadlock video>titles is something like NEW DESIGNS COMING>mod on preview>video is 20 minutes long>it's just old info, baseless assumptions, rumors and showcase of different mod outfits>got 30 ad spots>100k views in 24 hours
>>586490461there was a reddit thread seething earlier about that meme about celeste is the tranny dev's self insertknowing it makes trannies and sympathizers angry makes me believe
>>586491156It's just her being black + ugly unfinished model + her whole design and lack of convos made her feel like she was bound to be an uppity character whose haughtiness never gets adressed due to her being black.There's a racism part, but as usual, it's mostly something channers express on an already disliked character, give her a better model and more convos and you'll see a bunch of anons go "OMG my chocowaifu <3" on her
Just played silver in the new patch, she feels way betterThe core difference is that her counters were gutted, your burst damage was straight up invalidated before. Plus other cancer matchups like mohammed and kareem are winnableShe isn't free elo but is at least a respectable pick if your team needs a tempo hero.
>>586491562people got married at 18 in rural communities in the 1940's pretty consistently >>586491627I like the patch so far doe
>>586488918Calico is fine because she's A: squarely a heel and B: bitchy in an entertaining way (as opposed to being bitchy in an obnoxious way). If they tried to claim that ackshually she's a good guy because she donates her blood money to charity or something, then I'd take offense.
i wanted to main danny cause i like rocket jumping but he is too clunky, as per zoomers said. Reloading takes forever, charged shots are slow af consume double ammos and have piss poor blast radius, making rj weird af and the jetpack initial acceleration is ridiculously slow to the point i struggle to get out of the shop without consuming too much fuel lmao. Nerf him however you want but please make it snappier
>>586491302That's extremely common for government employees, so that's just reality.
>>586491627the trend I see so far (that I hope does not continue) is letting broken shit play out for a month plus and then releasing absolutely gargantuan balance patchesyes not everything needs a hotfix and maybe more frequent balance updates a la league leads to some whiplash but at least then you dont get a handful of characters terrorizing the game for an extended period of timebut thats how he did it in dota so I expect the trend to continue
>>586491526>bluh bluh you don't know what word means>That's the entire roster because the story doesn't move forward All the other villains have moments of getting shit on? Drifter and Seven both berated all the time, Drifter even shits his pants because of Doorman and multiple people call Seven a retard. Drifter might end up saying 'I'll kill you' to a lot of his criticism but the point is he's receiving. Billy gets shit on by the entire cast and he's not even a villain, just annoying. McGinnis is called a faggot by multiple people and even though she, like Calico, is blase and uncaring about that, at the very least she's being called out on it. Calico is completely immuneTry harder you colossal nigger. She's completely impervious to criticism beyond slap on the wrist shit, whereas villains ten times worse than her have moments of shitting their pants
>>586472449yeah shiv is really suffering, poor guyimagine slashing your throat
>>586485676I actually know one of the people that makes some of the most popular mods, it makes pocket change.
>>586491704his movement has a fun learning curve, you need to take advantage of air dashes and wall jumps to master him. I'm not a big fan of full spirit danny, but diving people or using diving to escape on the fly is also great fun
>>586490119rapid recharge works for torment pulse?green spike? none for me thanks
>>586491704There are ways to move fast with Danny, but they clearly didn't want the TF2 rocket jumping autists to dominate too hard with him right out the gate. Everyone is starting over with fuck all muscle memory for rocket jumping since they made his gun so stupid.
>play spirit shiv>Baxtuh society GAWD>play gun shv>walking minionwhat am I doing wrong
Bros when are they going to make Viscous good?
>>586491873calico is just snotty, drifter actively threatens people and gets it back just as good
>>586491679She feels the exact same to meShe sort of suffers from the same problem that Yamato does where you NEED your lanemate and teammates to be aware of what you're doing and join you when you fight
>>586491916yeah i know, i use air dashes to conserve fuel, it just doesn't feel good moving aroung, every animation has insane startup frames, feels like i'm piloting a flying tank
Let's see what this buff can do
>>586492118he kinda is a flying tank, the chimera is a huge piece of junk
>>586491994honestly I think the gun build is just a bit of a meme that for some reason the "pro players" really liked and decided to pushit functions solely around the ability to double shot with express shot which yes does typically chunk one person like crazy but outside of that youre standing around with your dick in your handmeanwhile with spirit shiv your knives and your dash both scalethe argument against spirit shiv is people can dispel the damage but if they dispel the knives theyre not exactly hard to reapply and then they cant dispel other shit from your teammatesspirit shiv feels better overall imo
>>586492146She is actually pretty good now but you can't expect her to have a high winrate.
>>586492063That's true but you can just play super greedy and steal all the farm on the map to stat check people in the early/midYou're super cooked in the late game if you don't have a 20-40k lead but that's just the nature of tempo heroes sadly (I LOVEEEEE HOW VENATOR AND WRAITH ARE GOOD EARLY MID AND LATE AMAZING DESIGN YOSHI)
>>586492146It incentivizes you to pick Point Blank which is incredibly high value on any character that can get and use it reliably
>>586471108>unranked in dota>gold in league>emissary in deadlock
>>586492146>bola nerfed>point blank isn't even a mandatory item on her anymore>no one ever builds opening rounds on herExtra 0.5 regen makes her S+++++ tier
>>586492084Dirfter would have been switching uniforms all over the place so he could sneak in to towns and drink bloo
>>586491876Shiv is similar to Silver in that he does no objective damageHe differs in that he is still a hero without his ult and his tankyness isn't conditional and he has escape built into his kitAll of which allow him to go in and deal damage to towers without risking death
>>586491169half of the cast tells her that she's a dipshit and should kill herself
>>586491873nigga, people barely recognize Calico exists to begin with, and even then the story does nothing to justify her ambiguous off screen killings like you were implying. And if you're trying to argue people don't talk back to her because of some DEI initiative, there's pic related.Go back to /pol/, tourist. You don't even play the game.
>>586492283>but you can just play super greedy and steal all the farm on the map>silver>farm
>>586491873She gets called a snooty bitch by Silver.Venator absolutely rips her apart, in general all the upright character call her a traitor, or a killer, or amoral.
>>586492358>>586492392>everything is about her being a betrayer>not the fact she will kill anyone at all for moneyLiterally the entire point of the original criticism was that she's not called out for being an amoral psycho but that she betrayed people. Worthless ass criticism
>>586492485>culture war anon can't readAmerica really does have a literacy crisis, doesn't it?
>>586492358>>586492392Calico is based, fuck the Baxter Society, bunch of fags
>>586492485Almost every conversation is about her killing people for money except for Pocket, who is mad she tried to kill him, and Shiv, who is mad she betrayed the Baxter Society.
>>586492485Anon... your 4th grade reading level...
>play Abrams>can do 70% of someone's health >but can never do 100% of someone's healthI exist to give my teammates kills I guess
why do melee characters need a roundabout gun (lash glove gun, seriously valve?)? Is it only cause last hitting would be a problem?
>>586492419Steal sinners and be on the constant look out for UrnYes her farm speed isn't great but denying the enemy sinners is something any hero can do.that's your job as silver
>>586492419This fag would feel out of place on any assassinYou're a character that wins every 1v1 and most 1v2s in the game for the most important period. Just go invade shit. No only are you getting money, you're denying it from them, and you basically get a free bag any time you hold W into their jungle past 8 mins
>>586492640You should do that on most heroes in the game if you get the chance to, even Paige is good at that because of her root + shield to escape if caught
>>586492623Please consult the following >>586478202Also Abrams feels way better since the buffs, you can be a reliable assassin with Shadow Weave during the early mid game and transition back to a good tank frontliner later on.
>>586492629Lash is not melee and glove pistols were a real thing
>>586492146Remember when they made jungle creeps immune to Silver's 2 and 3 because she was "clearing jungle too fast"?
>>586491627more like its clear that the campo santo and grok/gemini/claude skeleton crew are doing the balancing like the current doturd 2
>>586492146>regen increased by 0.5>winrate increases by 0.5insane change silverbros are we back?????
>>586492629glove gun goes back into neon prime and is pretty iconic for him by now
>>586493005No I don't, where did they say that?
I am not good enough to carry my team as a tank
>>586491873So we are just making shit up now huh?
>>586492629Play Silver and try to get to highly mobile or flying enemies when your ult kicks in.
>>586492919>way better after the buffsI mean 5% gun damage is, like, okay? But I don't know about way better. Since the two patches ago I've been noticing people getting out of stuns more for free parries so it's more than been offsetIt's one thing to not be able to do everything. It's another thing if even when half your build is orange, you can't actually kill anyone unless they're 5 miles from the nearest anything at all and somehow have no stam
>>586491645THIS GAME WILL CHANGE EVERYTHINGValve is COOKINGYou will NEVER guess what is shaping the future of esportsThe NONEXISTENT lore of deadlockCHARACTER DESIGN
>>586493185>shivAway with you, pedophile
are there any other tanks like baba where if you're a gun hero you just eat shit? I guess Mo&Krill but that's timer based rather than just a permanent shit eating.
Reminder that shiv does not take any sort of skill and anyone who claims otherwise is a gaslighting shitter
>>586492205Gun Shiv is good because some pretty specific meta reason, and that meta reason is that he is pretty decent with Hunter's Aura and Bullet Resist Shredder. Pretty much every competent draft needs a hero that can build these two items and Shiv is really good at it.With that said, I think the pro meta will shift to Silver again now once the pros wake up to the fact that she is even better than Shiv at building those two items.
i feel like i am unironically regressing at the gamewhen i started and to about 100 hours i regularly dropped 80k+ damage games in standard dominated lane positioned wellNow i’m on like a 10 game lose streak can’t do shit in lane lose every trade, might just uninstall honestly if i am just going to get worse from now on this sucks
>>586493401Not really baba is just retarded OP since she doesn't have to buy debuff resist, melee resist or spirit resist so she can get metal skin + plated to become functionally immortalIf she's too retarded to press a active item she can buy bullet resilience instead of metal skin
Why are the pol fags still here?
My Geist bought: Radiant Regen, Spirit Lifesteal, Spirit Resilience, Boundless Spirit, Escalating Exposure in that order. Did she not get the memo?
>>586493618matchmaking figured out your actual MMR so now you play with people of equal skill level instead of beating up toddlersyour problem isnt going backwards but not going anywhere, you've stagnated at the same skill level as 100h ago while matchmaking is giving you better opponents based on your historical performance
>>586493653>she doesn't have to buy debuff resist, melee resist or spirit resisthow come
>>586492329>point blank isn't even a mandatory item on her anymore>meanwhile Mikeals is playing her right now with Point Blank second itemAnyone who doesn't get PB asap is fucking retarded. It's more damage than literally every other item in her kit including 6400s (minus the actual 6400 spike bonus)
>>586488918my only problem with calico is that she's called calico but she's not a calico and neither is ava
Ho boy i'm sureivan ivanovics ivanovka on his level 2 steam account isn't cheating, he's just really good at the game!
Another game lost after i shat on Wraith making her go 0/4 in lane because my team doesn't know how to take objectives and dragged the game out to 40+ minutes :)Well deserved!I like how she throws my carry into their entire team to get mauled in an nanosecond and deals 2K dmg off one card which she has 4 off!Such impressive display of skill!
reminder that Shiv is based and cool as fuck and he probably pleases mares with his stallion sized cock
>>586493768She gets spirit resist for free as spirit scalingHer bench legs gives her debuff resist and melee resist, in the late game she can have it up nearly all the time so it gets dumbThere's a good reason why she has 60% wr right now, she has powercrept the other frontliners hard.
>>586493219i mean if you design a melee hero you need to give him ways to close the gap, not a projectile to compensate
>>586490237what kind of fucking 10 year old has hair like that? and its not the same va autist
I wanna play Deadlock but I only had 3 hours of sleep and would inevitably int my ass off :(
>>586493903Put the wig off, shiv.
>>586493925They could take away her fucking status resist next if they feel like actually fixing the problem.
spirit migu turrets really do a lot of damage when you just throw them in random fucking corners where fights are going to bei still wish she just had one big turret
Who do (you) guys play in solo que?
>>586493793>meanwhile Mikeals is playing her right now with Point Blank second itemWho the fuck cares about your eceleb faggotry. Streamer troons are the reason for Silver getting undeserved nerf after undeserved nerf. Fuck this general for shilling for them.
AND THE AWARD FOR THE "HR MANAGER'S SELFINSERT CHARACTER" 2026 GOES TOO...
>>586494235Haze!
>>586494212Same, but then if she just had the one turret it would either be made of paper or unkillable with no in between every patch.
>>586493793and the slow. don't forget the slow. that's what makes it really worth rushing, the combination of damage and the instant on-hit slow
Did they shadow buff Danny's gun or something? I don't remember chunking people with just his gun like this before even after the buff he got.
>>586494267>noo muh hekkin silverino is so bad she's so shit :(>meanwhile the #1/ex-#1 player is currently shitting on eternus lobbies with herlolAll I was saying is that people infinitely better than you know what it's good and they're buying it. That you're this asshurt over a basic item recommendation shows how much of a disingenuous faggot you are looking to find any excuse for why she's bad
>>586494212Get Mystic Slow and Slowing Hex and litter them along the lane before you split push and she's a real nuisance
>>586494267>Who cares about good players? They should balance the game around my bricklo ass
>>586494235Right now? I have Lash, Graves, Ivy, Harrow, and Doorman in it. Solo Harrow and Doorman is CBT though since your use is entirely dependant on teammates. Ivy is fine since she can pivot to lane janny just fine and still get to fights fast enough to matter.
>>586494295>valve>HRwell it was already implied from the rest of your post that you're retarded, but damn son
>>586494235Standard? Any character I feel like learning or trying out.Ranked? Supports I have unlocked for Ranked mode. I am currently undefeated on Kelvin lmao
Kelvin sex
>>586494385>>586494418I accept your concession.
>>586494267Sorry anon, but you gonna see Silver in the next night shift. The pros always copycat MikaelS1 since they've spent all their free time getting curb stomped by him in pubs
>>586494212>*throws literally any spirit nuke in the game at your turrets and instantly pop them*Spirit Migu Turrets are dogshit unless your enemy is blind, deaf and retarded and just ignore them constantly or didn't draft any good gun characters or any AoEslop but at that point you'd win regardless of what you picked.
>>586494395Not enough people use her turrets as wards.
>>586488918we have bazz at home
>>586494452Mikeals is the #1 player before he's a streamer. He basically hasn't even streamed recently until a couple days ago. If he wasn't a streamer he'd be your shining beacon but because he's giving visible proof for why she's good you're throwing a fit. Because it proves your agenda is complete headcanon from bricklow shitters that expect to be the best character in the game at all stages of the game with zero consequences
>>586494501who? fuck outta here ttv zoomer
>>586494504i'm in high ascendant and a lot of players will ignore turrets if you put them in weird spots during/just before a fightjust don't drop them in the middle of their line of sight
You'd have to be a special kind of retard to not got Point Blank on Silvert. Silver main
PETRIFIED
>>586490641People referring to trans people or even themselves saying they're "futa" is disgusting. It's a porn term just like shota, BBC, BBW and so on.
>>586494656It's the same faggot getting asshurt a couple threads back being told that you're meant to go Hunter's Aura + PB every game because he thinks he should be able to buy meme items and still rape people minute 60
MOLEMAN!
>>586494452yes, I concede that you're retarded and shit at the game
>>586493658>why is there water in my ocean asked the fish
SHOCKIN EM
>>586494667I always like the way she says that
>>586494154I look like this
Is there a more raped hero in this game right now than Viscous
>>586493658because they also play the game
What characters are great at taking objectives and pushing lanes besides Graves?
>>586494756That is one big mole...
>>586494267mikaels is pretty good anon
>>586494884Wraith, McGinnis, Rem
>>586493005No?They changed it because minions would eat bola and kick with their janky ass hitboxes
>play seven >do ult>i would run if i were you>enemies run>i kill nobodywooow thanks yoshi
It’s always crazy to me to look at a core item and see it only has like a 40% build rate
vindicta is above us!
>>586494884Ivy, pocket, doorman.
>>586494981Free thinkers who help tank winrates
The Mirage Traveler t3 buffs are definitely getting changed
>>586494431Apologize
>>586494981>venator active reload: 1.49% build rate
>play harrow>do ult>AVERT YOUR EYES>enemies don't avert their eyes>get nerfedwooow thanks yoshi
>>586494563MikaelS1 is an young autistic finnish lad that uses to be star player of Buff Enjoyers before he took a break from the game. Though he is technically a pub star, he is the only genuine tier 1 player in Deadlock. His game sense makes guys like Lomein, Eido, Average, ABL, etc look like chumps in comparison.Becausr he is so absurdly dominant in his pubs, he tends to decide what becomes next month's meta in the pro scene. Some heroes just get picked because MikaelS1 plays them
>>586495321Didn't ask, troon faggot.
>>586495414Uh oh, meltyyy
Silverfag SEETHNG that the best player is straight up contradicting his past week of astroturfing attempts
>>586495321he lost a bit of his aura when he stopped OTPing paradox
>>586495414>who?you're retarded
>>586495414you literally did ask, anon
You expect Danny's ult to be a short range grab but it's actually absurd how far away he can use it. It's like if Maurice expanded his arms before ultimate to grab you from 10 meters away
I have a confession. I legit go on the Deadlock subreddit to ragebait myself. It's definitely not healthy and I've never done this for other games before.
>>586495525I agree.At the same time, him mindbreaking every other e6 player to start learning Grey Talon was very, very funny
>played 8 months>had fuck all denies because I didn't realize that the souls flash when they're able to be hit>come back>clicks instantly>I deny half the souls every lane even on a shit gun characterI'm a bit retarded
>>586495650chaos dunk :DD
>>586495705>ragebait myselfexplain?
>>586495850Please don't make me
>Keep your eye on my balls, boys and girls. What?!
fairfax industries made me gay
>>586494951>kill farming potential because of something that can only happen in first 5-10 minutes of the game
>>586495650It's because it has a long wind up to give you a moment to counterspell it, I'm pretty sure he activates the ult right when you drop to 1272 health. It also breaks a lot because of this, you'll hit the button on someone and during the charge they go behind a wall or around a corner but the ult still has Danny flying into wall.
>>586495850>>586495968it's basically the>i deliberatley entered a thread full of things i don't like and now i'm madbut in this case it's>entered a thread full of the most retarded opinions to ever exist
>>586496043Brother what fucking farming potential lmfao?
>>586496270so, this thread?
>>586496009she's talking about her pendulous, musky horse balls, you know, the ones right below her throbbing stinky horse cock?
>>586496043Farming with 2/3?Brother she can still kill the camps with 2 medium 1 large creep just fine after CNS and she was never farming the triple t3s anyway
>>586496414yeah if you were a m1gger main for example, coming into this thread to read dozens of posts about how we're somehow still in a permanent gun meta that's somehow causing a massive playercount decline etc, getting mad at those posts while being fully aware since the beginning that you'd be seeing such posts, that's what "self-ragebaiting" is
how do you build yamato anymore? is radiant regen still worth buying?
what's your favorite conversation in the game?
>>586496414yeah, but we say slurs
the lash raped me
I'm gonna rat.
>>586496009she does a magic trick with a Fushigi Ball
>>586496653I really wish they flesh out Kelvin's personality and lore more specially since its veen implied the current Kelvin's its jot actually him.
>>586496856I wish Lash would rape me
i actualy like celeste dash and slide and movement and reload animations because i am reminded that she is actually some circus performer and not just a tumblr dyke
>>586496629Just copy whatever the top tanky melee build is, that's the only way to play her since they nerfed her spirit build for no reason
>>586492146She has an extra slot because you don't have to buy stamina because of the candies right nowGive it some time after they remove them
>>586470745Attention whore ass OP
how do ghost girl that is from 1600s know how to use sniper rifle
>>586497207>She has an extra slot because you don't have to buy stamina because of the candies right nowOh fuck you're right, lolThey really need to just give her 3 stamina and see what happens, her being 3 stamina is such a blight on an already scuffed character
Celeste Mare pussy
how long until candy is gone
>>586495491So what you're saying is that I need to be the best player in the game to make Silver work?
>that guy who calls characters "heroes"
>>586497614If the literal best players in the world are losing to it, you're shit if you can't kill the pisslow babies you're losing to
>>586471030calm down rem
>that guy who calls occultists "characters"
>he doens't call them champsngmi.
>>586497647
>>586497647this is Dota 3 niggathe characters are called heroesthe little dudes are called creepssneaking damage on objectives is called rattingand you'll like it!
They can't be called ritualists if that is one of the ranks too.
>>586497816>this is Dota 3 niggaNo it isn't
>>586496867What does she do?
>>586497796>"hero" inexplicably has a smaller font than "swap"looool babys first photoshop
>>586495289Fuck you nigger, 70 IQ people deserve to play the game too. Expecting people to turn around or buy knockdown is ableist.
>>586497878
Silver works better in Eternus ranks because Eternus matches are shorter than low rank matches, so there's fewer matches where she falls off, and she falls off HARD
>>586498151This is the new cope huh
>>586498254I said this months ago
>russian name>64% crit accuracy on vyperyeah seems about righti love eternus
>>586498151If you're as good as you think you are to be determining the balance of a character, you should be able to shitroll the pisslow babs and forcibly end the game earlier. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from just holding W on a lane, taking walkers and killing everyone who comes unless you're inexplicably against full comms coordinating teams 2 ranks above you every game
>>586498254it's kinda true that characters who fall off late game are kinda bad in bricklow territory. most bricklow games go 30+ minutes where early game bully characters start falling off hard
you could be shit onto the dirt of the forest from a chimps ass and it still would be too sophisticated of a birth for the limbless homonculi that populate the OCE servers
>>586498254It's not cope if it's just trueIf you want to win in bricklow always play lategame heroes
>>586498324blyaat i no cheat nahuy pissdiets
>>586497647I think valve wanted to call them mystics but all the UI calls them heroes
>>586498370That's not true at all, Silver is not a "push to win" hero, if you slaughter 4 people but either die or go to 300hp and need to go back to heal then you can't do anything but hope your teammates use the advantage and push.There's always heroes that are better at rank climbing than others and Silver is not one of them, generally you need push potential to be a solo climber hero
>>586498410The same logic means that higher level players are skilled enough to know to focus the early game threat and know how to play from behind until she apparently becomes a minion. Fact is that you're just shit if you can't turn a free win lane bully into early game advantages.Stop walking in circles waiting for people to respawn and instead use your advantage
>>586498521ritualists sounds better since it is all a ritual after all
>>586498576And yet she was called a pubstomping hero that can't be played at high elo as the last copeShe's always been good at every rank for various reasons. Shitlow players don't have the skill to actually farm for 40 minutes. They'll int on repeat into your face as long as you stand in front of them. If the best players in the world can lose to her, the shittiest players can lose to her if you actually deserve to climb.
>>586498370She CAN'T kill objectivesHer only source of high objective damage is her 2 that comes up ever 15 seconds and using that you forfeit your ability to turn and fight as well as your escape
It's donehttps://imgpile.com/m/xhIhRHLhttps://imgpile.com/m/vjVKKlH
The only "fix" Silver needs is a functional mic or keyboard to tell your team to push and end it at 22 mins.
Instead of heroes they should be called villainsSubtle forshadowing that the patrons are fucking evil
>>586473461it doesn't get better just play standardt. batlow
Wow you can just walk through Harrow ult to get around her now.
>>586498958>vyperruined it
>baba57.1% wr>danny53.3% wr>apollo50.8% wr>rat king50.7% wr>silver48.7% wr>solomon48.6% wr>harrow46.9% wr>mo45.6% wr>violet45% wr
>>586488918Her glasses are retarded. Why do they have those stupid lines on them? It makes her look like she has cartoony evil eyes.
They should be called faggots because this is an ASSFAGGOT
danny missing his divebomb should drain all his stamina
VENATORYOU HAVE NO MOVEMENT OR ESCAPESTOP DIVING THE WHOLE TEAM VENATORSTOP BEING THE LAST TO RETREAT VENATOR
>>586499176>Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On TwoHuh?
>Teamfight on the Rift>Playing Abrams>Ult and charge their Wraith>Just one punch to kill her>Ivy carries me away
>>586498908You kill the enemy and walk at the objective with your minions. It's like you've never taken an objective on any character. Is she going to take it as fast as an M1? No. Is she still going to kill it in 8 seconds if she has a wave and the only person who came to her lane is dead? Yeah. Because she builds orange for most of the game and has an M1 burst ability. Stop making up retarded excuses. If you could mysteriously make the defender disappear, you could take objectives as a fucking support. Let alone as a the character that probably raped someone on the wave in the first place and then walked up to rape the second defender by the time you got to their walker
>>586499320>>586499320>>586499320
>>586499090>>586499090>>586499090>>586499090>>586499090>>586499090
>>586498849>And yet she was called a pubstomping heroShe is, she shits on noobs but she struggles to actually end games, do you not understand that?>that can't be played at high eloWho did? High elo is the place where they've been trying to force a meta with her for months and failing>She's always been good at every rank for various reasonsThat is objectively not true, she's never had unusually high winrate anywhere, not even at her strongest.But I don't really have an interest in "debating" something with someone that doesn't let those pesky facts get in the way of him seething about a specific hero that has never at any point been anywhere above B tier
>see debate on PB silveri thought the general consensus was that CQ is not worth 2400 souls to upgrade because you already get a respectable amount of weapon damage from CQ alone, did something change that made it worth the 2400 on silver or
>>586499342>>586499354>page 2bruhhhhhhhhh
>>586499287This hppened to me last match>Everyone retreating>Use retreat call>Use my Mcginnis wall to give him time to escape before zipping away>He waits until they break it down and then dies
>>586499342>>586499354WHY DO YOU RETARDS KEEP DOING THIS
Yeah not posting in the ritual poster schizo thread who made it all JapaneseFucking attention whores
>>586499342Kys nigga
>>586499394And yet the best player is literally doing it every game right now and like 30 minutes ago was straight labbing whether it's worth it to go PB first item (it is, always, with the only potential item you get before it being Hunter's Aura because it lets you do slightly more damage (literally single digits difference) explicitly in 1v1s but at the expense of not slowing them)Anyone who doesn't go PB is retarded. With the exception of the sheer soul value of Heroic Aura, it's the best item in the game for any melee or pseudo-melee character souls wise
>>586478108This website put Pocket and Rem in D
>>586472449>Shiv has zero ways to counterplay him because he has better stats and better mobility than the entire cast>People rightfully dislike this and hate seeing Shiv because he's broken as fuck>Apollo has zero ways to counterplay him, no need to aim at all, and an auto-aim stun (Now an equally annoying immobilize + parry disable)>People dislike him and think he's annoying to fight>Danny has very little counterplay because he simply outranges everyone in the air like the other flying characters that are even more OP>People obviously dislike this
>>586499287>YOU HAVE NO MOVEMENT OR ESCAPEwrong, i bought stam mastery and magic carpet
>>586482385>Character is literally just Shiv 2.0 in every single way>Too mobile, too tanky, too much damage, abilities are too easy to land>WOW WHY DO PEOPLE DISLIKE MY TRANSEXUAL SELF INSERT
Slavoid excuse?
>>586499162Guess that means Violet buffs soon
>>586472725>>586473478engagement based matchmakingbehavior score based matchmakingshe isn't going to grind shitlow for 5000 hours but if she reaches whatever rank people consider good they might think that they have a chance if they grind 5000 hours
>>586503498You didn't peel for him, debil.
>>586494884Punch Viscous. Do note that build path is not meta unless you're in low mmr. Does great damage to objectives alongside ball (and cube in case you get caught in stomp), terrible against other players who are either cracked or are running auto parry.
>>586497816>the little dudes are called creepsThey're called troopers or NPCs in game.You are forgiven because even Yoshi sometimes has a schzio episode and uses DOTA 2 terminology in patch notes.
>>586502915>too mobileGet Phantom Strike if it's late game. Some characters like Yamato can chase inherently to their kit. She doesn't even have the best air mobility or travel speed in the game but other characters require a higher skill ceiling or conditions to achieve that.I am a noticer. I notice how no one says jack shit about Vyper moving at 50m/s for free (it's because she's easy to play so they can meta abuse when she's strong)>transexual self insertfreudian slip, this is noncanon
>>586508903Vyper doesn't get people bitching about her because she has to stay ON THE GROUND where 90% of the ground is AoE slop, so you can zone her out. Celeste just flies across the entire map on 1 stamina by abusing movement bugs. Vyper also has to actually aim.
>>586508903>because she's easy to play
>>586508903>Vyper>Easy to play>Compared to Celeste>Compared to Celeste, who has 4 gigantic AoE abilities and an auto-aim gun, and an ult that auto aims, which also was so retard-proof previously that it refunded the cooldown if you missed itWhy has Vyper never gotten free cooldown reduction for missing her ult? It's effectively the same as Celeste's ult.
>>586509784>Vyper also has to actually aim.I don't get the point. Celeste demonstrably has a high skill floor and ceiling as well and is forced to take close range engagements to make use of her 1, the primary source of damage (which as you said is all AOE slop).>>586515507>celeste is easy to playOh, so her sub 50% winrate is representative of her place in the meta and people complaining are just saying shit. I accept your concession.
>>586515507>arguing vyper isn't easy to play>kit that borders on satire, a gun carry with hard cc for an ult, stacks of movement slows, the best ground movement in the game, an ability that literally activates itself to execute the enemy in case a literal reptile is playing>in case that isn't enough has built in antiheal and armor shredding in her kit comparable to 6.4k worth of items>gun carry, meaning scales infinitely in the late game thanks to damage formulasNever mind she is currently the best at invading mid currently with the rejuv redesign.She's really hard to play bros.
