>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesName Reservations open now for skyborne pack purchasers.The journey begins on November 4previous >>586571960
COMFY EXPLORINGTAKING MY TIME
first for gnome cunny
>>586582596stank
Why yes I will be playing gnome rogue and rushing to 60 to gank (you)
>>586582663but im playing on Normal
>>586582663I shant be pvp server
Ignore patch notes, breed elveshttps://litter.catbox.moe/tfi5llkzdrtfmai9.png
dps should be identical for all specs
>double sapYeah, i'm gonna be spinning bg nodes. Also try stepping into my AV bunker nigga.
>>586582674good luck on your transition sister!
>>586582723we're so back rogue bros
>>586582523YOU MUST PLAY OPTIMALLY OR YOU WON'T REACH 60 WITHIN A MONTH FOR RAIDS. BUY THE RESTEDXP GUIDE, WATCH THE AI GENERATED DEEP DIVE VIDEOS ON EFFICIENCY, FOLLOW THE BIS LIST AND BIS TALENTS. DO NOT THINK, DO NOT FEEL, ONLY CONSUME
still not sure if im playing warlock or warrior
Playing undead prot pala and won't be inviting warriors lmao
>>586582703Elves should be svelte, not obese or black like the OP.
Elemental SHOULD be a fire spec.Resto = water affinityEnhance = air affinityElemental = fire affinity(they are all earth because that's fundamental to shamans)
>>586582797quit it with the caps lock or i'll lock up your clitty
>>586582723>>586582749
Is shaman tank now?
>>586582703needs more bush
>>586582706dps should bounce on my fat fucking cock
>>586582848>frog poster is a shaman larperpathetic
Lock in three WoW: Forever characters before Early Name Reservation closes today!
>>586582848elemental is lightning affinity
>Ummm dude how is this 1 point talent that gives me a 30% poison damage and application rate boost even worth it? (i am a poison spec that does a bunch of poison damage)Are rogue players more retarded than huntards? How do they even ask such questions like this?
>>586582898
What class/spec has the most most retail like dps rotation? Eevery thing here looks 3 buttons max with a 3 min CD buff
give it to me straight shammy sisters, are we cooked in pvp?
>>5865825845% vs PH + Imp BR + Reckless tho
>>586582820Afraid of a little meat on your table elf boy?
>>586582815you will get much more respect as a warrior (not arms or fury)
>We're going HOME.
>>586582889With all 3 tanks getting massive threat passives shaman tank is a complete meme
>>586582936nothingmaybe warrior
>>586582898you don't have a fat cock unless you are a dps
>>586582918it's not a rogue player, it's another tourist retard fomohyper
>Aimed Shot: Bonus damage on all ranks increased by ~110%.
>>586582918No, that's just your average general poster. Any guild that stays in the OP between retards having their thread wars is an easy gank.
>>586582889unless rockbiter got some kind of god buff on threat, its fucking over
>>586582858WILL WEARING A CHASTITY CAGE INCREASE MY LEVELING SPEED? WILL IT GIVE ME PINK PARSES? DID AHMPY AND AHLAUNDOH WEAR THEM IN THEIR GUIDES? THEN YES, LOCK ME UP!
>>586582971same with sniper shotwe WILL be shadowmelding right before the enemy hunter finishes the cast
>>586582936how many threads are you going to ask your retarded question in?
>>586582971yes, the bonus damage, not the weapon damage or damage as a whole
>>586582940Chargrilled
>>586582918>Are rogue players more retarded than huntards?they always were
>>586582971>hunters are simming very well based on level 60 speculation>get buffed anywayIs Aggrend switching to hunter?
>>586582889Shaman tank is High Elf tier obvious addition.Therefore never happening.You will sooner see a new class that is sort of like shaman and they will be tank, but shaman never ever.
The niggas that play on pve servers probably sit down to pee :skullemoji:
Can someone link the pirated RestedXP please.
>>586582954>>586582997CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
>>586583104LOOOOOOOL
>>586583104I sit down to pee so I can talk to you my friends in my phone. Like u guys :D
>>586582863Stop watching porn and go touch some grass, pornbrained troon.
>>586583032didnt get a answer last time and its not a retarded question
>>586583104Holy fvck :skull: :rose:
>>586583104makes sense, they dont bother witj useless shit like pvp or standing to pee just to sit to shit afterwards
>>586582889Hopefully never unless they give it a dedicated 4th spec. I'm tired of retards trying to bastardize enhance to force that shit to work. When it would just have half its talents fucked with to make sure it's not OP in pvp.
>>586583104I sit down to pee because otherwise I can't aim my cage properly
i love trannies
>>586583174nice projection kek
>>586583127ownedcore
>>586582946Take 1 point out of deflection for raging blows in fury, it's -3 rage on cleave.
I tried to come up with some kind of interesting leveling/pvp spec for mage but it seems deep frost trumps all once againnot even worth it dipping into Missile Barrage desu
how similar does playing catform feel to being a rogue?
wait so is the plan just to do another classic run with forever, then release wow 2 and do that for a bit until they kill it, then classic 2, then forever 2, etc?
>>586583104The niggas that play on pve servers fart in a toilet :wilted_rose:
>>586583341fire blast is all you needblastmaxxers will reign supreme
>>586582946piercing howl is literally the best warrior defensive why would you not take it if you're going for this spec instead of the impale spec?
>>586583104t. lives with his mother and never had to clean his toilet.
can these chinks wake up and update all the talent websites
>Swiftmend consuming a hot is nowhere in the patch notesDid we freak out over nothing?
Disarm is basically worthless vs Paladins and Warriors they'll all be using weapon chain right?
Does Guldan have the thin beard or the bushy wild beard?
>>586583463if their weapon glows you can disarm them (unless they got black and grey gauntlets)
>>586583493Do you think he enjoyed farming shards all day?
>>586582918>he thinks he's killing players with poison damagethats cute
>>586583463nah most players are morons
>>586583303>>586583394Replying to an anon in the last thread.I'd probably go more like this
How the fuck do these threads go so fast? I look away for half an hour and there's a fucking new one.
>>586583394What are you going to do, piercing howl mobs and run away?
why don't they just use a seasonal system like in diablo or poe?you collect items or maybe some kind of prestige currency that gets shared account wide and can be you used for your characters next season? At the end of a season characters themselves get deleted or moved into an unimportant realm, rinse and repeatin this case just make the seasons longer to fit wows environment this way freshtards get to level over and over again but the investment stays relevant
Gnome and Undead is the best pvp rogue races for each faction right
>>586583630i think it's more of a dungeon/raid spec
>>586582946>>586583602which site is this
>>586583636because wow isn't season of discovery it's OSRS
>One of the coolest spells in WoW>Reddit cries>RemovedOh, ok fuck me I guess I'm just a shitmom then
>>586583690https://foreverchanges.pro/
>>586583636Go play retail if you want seasonal gameplay.
>>586583636seasons are absolute shit
>>586583669That makes even less sense. What are you going to do, piercing howl and run away and lose aggro or accidentally pull more packs? Piercing howl an immune raid boss?
>>586583630yeah, with the threat changes you can just build a good lead then piercing howl and kite to the next pack while dps blows up the slowed pack. no better defense than not being hit at all
>>586583695>>586583718>>586583747enjoy your vertical progression
>>586583715lava burst is fucking gay wrath shit
>>586583663Id say human > gnome Perception and stun are crazy good.
>>586583663depends.tauren has sped BOOST and stomp.
>>586583715>coolesti think you meant 'shittiest with no synergy'they didnt even bother spicing it up and sent it behind the shed with a gun
so the new rogue design is that shank is broken and the tree is just which kind of broken shank you want
>>586583765You mean the threat changes that merely compensate for the lack of salvation?Are you just a total retard or something?
paladin ret mainhunter bm altwarrior fury alt
REEEE I CAN'T DO IT HUMANS ARE SO FUCKING UGLY SKELVES MOG SO HARD I'M JUST GONNA GET RAPED BY ROGUES IDC
At this point I’d prefer if they just released fresh classic. My excitement for forever has dropped to zero. These devs are fucking lost.
>>586582469We're back rogue bros.Who does the fucking?We do the fucking.
>>586583493neck beard innit
>>586583894k
>>586583663Horde rogues are super cucked because they have to deal with alliance racials which are very anti rogue. The opposite isn't nearly as bad. Also Gnome is probably the best rogue race for both PvE and PvP.
>>586583780>having your character deleted or moved onto an unimportant realm is making progressretard
>>586583861Pretty much yeah. Its a cool concept. An ability each spec uses in their own unique way. I like it. I think eviscerate would have been cooler for that type of thing but this is fine.
>>586583868hate to break it to you but tanking is like wrath. threat will be trivial, also that other guy was wrong it's purely a dungeon spec. raid spec is impale 100%
>>586583861I want the shank with +80% chance to make (you) cry, bitch.Rogues are back.
Xario and Dickypopper are saying mage is bad and Druid is bad and now I have to reroll last sec I can't I FKING can't with these devs fr patch class change in 2 days before launch you fking fkity fking fkers Aggrend fat donut ogre Asmonglod is warrior should I play warrior?Is warrior good? Is it worth? Is it good? Will it be meta? But I don't wanna tank. I just wanna chill and DPS. But warlock won tourney so they meta PvP class is warlock good?? Is it worth? Dickypopper said they're worth... Maybe I should roll warlock. But then I can't heal. Savox is playing undead Paladin. Is undead Paladin worth? Or should I play human for PvP racial?Should I roll PvP server? Or PvE to play with Asmonglod so he says my name on stream when I give him my gold? Is it worth????? I don't wanna make mistake and fall bhnd fr...
>>586583894Classic is essentially dead. Even if you're seething about changes, going back to warriors > all and world buffs in pve won't fly anymore.
>With the exception of bugs and serious outliers, we don’t plan on making big tuning changes between now and the opening of the raids next month.>plan
why did they make shadow suck so much cock i was going to play them but holy fuck they are so fucking underbaked its just TBC lite fuck these fucking shit dev team
>>586583930I see you are unfamiliar with the prestige concept
So why did they not include this almost full rogue redesign in the actual beta
does the 10 second cooldown matter? it's a finisher.
>>586584003Okay retail nigger. Classic mogs this retail shitheap in every way imaginable.
>>586584002where did they say this neither were live when the patch dropped
When are we getting Wrath+ so all vanillatards can get btfo
Imagine playing a lock and rogue coming up to youJust like good old times
Is the Forsaken life succ thing noticeable for sustain while levelling?
At a first glance looking at this for pvpBackstab Prep with Vigor & insane energy reduction and double ambush openers
>>586584074Sorry for telling you the truth.
>rogues get buffed>all the meme specs come out to start whining DADDY LONG DICKS BACK IN TOWN GET FUCKED RETARDS
>>586584041just like with transmog i have quite literally ALWAYS hated the prestige concept>lets force you to use the garbage shit again instead of the thing you actually enjoy using the most just so you can watch a number go upabsolute garbage for braindead retards, go play fifa for the 50th time you dumb brown
>>586583760well im nta but i dont think piercing howl is the pointit can be useful in dungeons thoughyou can stop mobs running without needing to hamstringinb4 you never ever need to do that because you play with gigapros who never let a mob run in their lives, u dont have to tell me bro im aware
>>586583282I'm confused, this only gives a activation code. Do I download the addon from CurseForge and just use the generated key?
>we nerfed all elemental shaman spells to 50% or below classic values for beta>we now buff them back to original classic valuesReally struggling to follow the logic to these changes
>>586584062because they've been in a crunch for probably 6 months now
>>586584112Level 60 Alliance warlock status: 3%
>>586584182how does your perfect World of Warcraft look like?
>>586584139you are still getting raped by priests btw
So they buffed ret right?
>>586584292Doubt it.Being alliance must suck.
New Talent: Reckless Swings. Row 4. 1 Point. 15 second cooldown. Costs 25% of base health. Your next 4 melee attacks generate 5 additional Rage. Lasts 8 seconds.wtf???
>>586584292meant for >>586584162
>>586584206pandering to crybabies
>>586584206Who cares?
>>586583919so not this one?
>>586584206because they really couldn't find any way for Lava Burst to synergize with other spells nor how it would fit in the rotation so they gave up
>>586584374pve
>>586584257i mean i'm not trying to make wow into MY perfect game but it would include stuff like more fleshed out and slower profession progression with meaningful maxed bonuses, new profession every expansion (just 1 or it'll get retarded), flesh out fishing more too, more autism with the quest designs, bigger longer chains with obscure requirements and sometimes making you do a LOT of traveling and gathering materials or buying shit off the ah as a long questline alternative to dungeons and stuff for cool itemsless focus on dungeons and raids, more battlegrounds content
>>586584421yeah but like 25% of your health??
>>586584257Character sliders that includes tits and assFat fucking goon meat asses that jiggle uncontrollably when I move
>>586584257buying boosts and RMTing gold is his vision of perfect world of warcraft
>>586584414Retail fixed this already
>>586584432base health but yeah
>>586584197nope, there is the full file you download
>>586584432Base healthIts irrelevant
>>586584374In taking this as prot along gore drinker and blood craze and just hp regen maxxing
>>586584498>>586584504i am big retard then
So are classictards brains going to explode when they see changes post launch like a normal video game?
>it's another episode of balancing the classes around pve and not giving many fucks about rogues or hunters being able to alpha within seconds
>>586584438oh yeah i forgot to mention this good call, femtauren ass slider should go to two dwarves wide
>>586584292>>586584014Na, magies get global'd and suck balls, but before even that, you shadow sissies specialize in the shaft first, so better get to it for that party slot
a true shame.>2% extra damage and shield slam>vs >gore drinker 2/2
>>586584432It's base health, it's the same as bloodrage.
>>586584553No these are called choices. It would be too easy otherwise
>>586584532Judging how they have meltdowns over every datamined change no matter how minor, yes.
>>586584426>more autism with the quest designs, bigger longer chains with obscure requirements and sometimes making you do a LOT of traveling and gathering materialsCongrats you just designed FFXIV
>>586584534>>it's another episode of balancing the classes around pvegood, newsflash retard you can't balance for both and all pvpers have to pve but not all pvers do pvp, simple as
>>586584206Missed the part where they say "removed Lava Burst and every mentions of Lava Burst"?
>>586582469I look like this
Will forever be known as the streamer (grifter) game?
>Gore Drinker moved to Row 5 (was Row 6) and is connected to Blood Craze now instead of Enrage.What a dumb change for fury
>>586584615you're right.
I'm so happy about the ele changes anonsActually keen to play Shaman now
>>586584553This almost reads like an intended path for a Fury tank build tbdesu. I don't know that it would be very good, though.
>>586584628>Congrats you just designed FFXIVbut with wow's gameplay feel and class design, yes that is my ideal game, i tried xiv very briefly but i liked stuff like how they had a boat you could get on a fish with a bunch of other players and the casino as a concept even though i don't care for gambai want a world to exist in not some sweaty minmax raid/pvp bullshit, i like pve and pvp but this is an mmo
>>586584408don't know which looks better
>>586584714what is blud yapping about?
Boomkin status? Bros...?
>>586584749you poor souljust wait until you group up with a class that has CC and you cant use CL anymore
>>586584791just brown things
>>586584791Blood craze is bad for fury
does sleeping bag buff persist through death
If youre starting a gnome or dwarf make sure you spam AGGREND IS A FAT FUCK The entire time youre leveling. If we all do it he will see it.
>>586584532Haven't people posted official posts saying they're not going to change the game after launch for months to accumulate data, if you expect this level of changes a few days after launch you're delulu
You either understand how awful this patch is and what it forecasts for the future of Forever or you’re a nigger with no brain. The writing is on the wall in bright red paint. Whether or not you choose to read it at this point is up to you.
>>586584843yes
>the horizontal progression is swapping your main after each patch
>>586584812we dont talk about the Balance tree...
>>586584549holy esl no clue what the fuck your indian ass just typed
seems like resto shaman just goes resto into natures swiftness then goes enhance for mental quickness and imp stormstrike? seems pretty fun like a melee healer
>>586584014shadow isnt a real spec, shadow is for people that are too socially awkward or unwilling to larp as a woman to heal
>>586584812buttblasted meme spec as alwaysbut they will larp otherwise
>>586584865you will level alts or you will cry and level alts
>>586584862Cope retard. Ill be ganking your gay ass all day long.
>can't trigger reckoning by sitting down anymorewhy live
>>586584862what it do forecast?
as THE wowfg warrior master and expert. this is my definitive prot warrior BIS spec. feel free to copy it if you want to be good like me. also feel free to donate to my kofi link if you learned from MY hard work
>>586584819Didn't stop me in TBC, it won't stop me here
>>586585006Why did Blizzard make their shorties so sex?
>>586584906People were definitely going to be playing 31pt Resto just for Riptide as a quick instant heal but running around in Enhance gear and SSing shit into oblivion. Pretty sure that's why they nerfed Riptide.
>>586584503Where? Owned core only has the RXP-Reforge which you use to generate a code. But there is no addon file. But I found the addon on CurseForge.https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/restedxp-guide
>>586585021>warrior tank Erm thanks but ill be inviting the prot pally instead
>>586584737Still seems like it would be good for soloing stuff or grinding certain enemies, so it's good we have the choice to do this.
>>586585021what website you using?
>>586585021>no blood gore
Does anyone feel bad for the ritual posting bots, they can't contribute to the conversation, but still need to spam their trash porn slop loljesus christ that's fucking pathetic lol
>>586584760it isYou still need a shield, but essentially you get a lot of health regen.its to be determined if WW+flurry gives more threat than 10% bonus damage and shield slam
That's a mighty fine lookin' Shaman spec
Shortstakes.
>>586585118why would you need that if you have a healer? use your brain sweetie!>>586585113foreverchanges
I guess this is the combat spec?
>>586585132It's fucking lame if you still need a shield, though. Would rather be a sustaining dual wield tank.
I think I'm gonna go Undead Rogue
>>586585173How annoying will it be to spam water shield?
>>586585173yea we are back
>>586585060i just wish ele shaman wasn't so fucking boring
Battlegrounds are cross server so I get all the benefits of a PvP server while playing pve servers and none of the downsides.Sorry swarthoids, you won't be able to gank lowbies trying to run through BlackRock mountain
>>586585212lol
>>586585240Being a tank with a shield is cool nigga, it's the entire roles fantasyThis dual wielding tank shit is gay, you're not a tank anymore you're just a dps who's being hit back
>>586585173Drop two points from Thundering Strikes so you can get Mana Tide. Trust me, you'll need it.
So, it's gonna be wednesday at midnight? Just told my boss that I might oversleep and be useless on thursday.
How big of a deal is not getting hit by spells by 4%?Like how often am I going to be resisting Frost Novas, Entangling Roots, Fears, etc?
You DID buy the $90 omegagoy version that comes with a free mount and retail race for the newly minted Retail Minus Fun Mode, didn’t you anon? Brought to you by RestedXP. Don’t forget your beer and pretzels!
I think this would be my "dungeon set"
>>586585021Yeah these two seem pretty good
>>586585081I just downloaded the newest full version from ownedcore
>>586585287it will be terrible! but not any worse than spamming totems back and forth perchance
>>586585327?
>>586582469What kind of fat zoomerbait wet dream is this shit?
>>586585346There's plenty of room within the tank fantasy for shit that isn't just heavily armored, sword and board guardians. See bear Druids.
This retarded paki still thinks you're gonna be using cleave or whirlwind as a tank.You're using thunderclap and nothing else for aoe
thank you 4chan leaker for putting some fucking rogue changes innow i think i go rogue over druid but i hope i don't regret not being flexible at all
any shadow priest want to post the leveling build talent tree? have some opinions but not certain
ALEXENSUAL RNUS THIS GENERAL
>>586585373about 4% anon
>>586585212Seems like Cold Blood is probably better than Splatter, you aren't going to be maintaining Rupture as Combat.
>>586585348good idea anon
>>586585385Piercing howl is too good to give up imo
>>586585482oh yeah, i kinda thought it was a 21 pointer so you wouldn't be able to get it.
>>586585281>no goblin engineer wife to crush your pelvis every night with her shiny green ass
>>586585021How can you be the warrior master when you're still doing it wrong though? In both builds you only have 2/3 of focused rage. Top build you drop 1point of crit for it. Bottom build drop 1 point of parry for it.Like come on bro. Also 2 points in improved bloodrage is better than shield bash, this ain't pvp.
Arms warrior got less talents to put on arms tree with more power and you can go deeper into Fury nowKINO
>>586585401Where? This is the only post on there about Foreverhttps://www.ownedcore.com/forums/wow-classic/wow-classic-guides/974853-r-st-dxp-cust-m-gu-des-340.html#post4607015
>>586585467thats not how it works. not having your mandatory 6% hit means you miss like 20% of the time
>>586585496Nothing about Elemental in Forever is a good idea but glad I could help. I'll be playing Enhancement.
What streamer are you watching on release night /wowfg/ bros??For me it's Joshua Lopez aka Goyryu
>>586585385Why would you ever not take last stand nigga
>>586585385booming voice sucksanticipation sucksno last stand, imp SW, piercing howl is trollterrible
>I'll be playing warrior>No, mage>No, shaman>No, paladinAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>586585442Nah, there's no room, also bear druids are gay so that's irrelevantAll tanks should be head to toe in plate armor with a shield, anything else is no longer a tankMiss me with that warlock and rogue tanking garbage in sod
>>586585597Anon the 31-60 part isn't even up yet because we haven't gotten the game yet, just wait if you're that desperate to not think and follow the arrow.
>>586585385>dungeon build>only 2/3 thunderclap>0/3 defianceAlright i'm convinced you're all retarded and i'm the only actual unironic warrior master here.
>open patch notes>ctrl + f starshards>0 resultsNight elf priest sisters, we made it
>>586585597there is only one version of restedxp, it has guides for every single version of wowhttps://letmegooglethat.com/?q=download+restedxp+ownedcorefirst link, first post, first hyperlink
>lava burst removedbased
>>586585662Warlock tank was obviously a fucking stupid idea, but you're also fucking stupid so I'm surprised you didn't like it.
>muh piercing howlThis paki things he's gonna be kiting 10 mobs or something.
>>586585651This is a good thing.You have no bullshit sims trying to influence you. Everything seems cool to you.
>>586585612yea enhancement mogs completely but with resto atleast you get free ele gear
>Shank>Death Mark>Multiple sap targets talentsRoguebros... we won
>>586585557you'll have plenty of rage, the -1 cost won't matter. you can take improved bloodrage instead of shield bash for sure if you're going to be LoSing mobs every pull but that's harder to do in some dungeons, so silencing the casters to drag them with the pack is still good
>>586585730Fucking faggot got his back blown out by 5 warrior chads and now he can't reply properly
>>586585714>found the gay bear druid
I bought 50 monster energy drinks, several cartons of Adderal, I AM going to be world first 60 on my hunter and be the new Jokerd and make millions from viewbotting my own stream
Is poison rogue a thing and a PvE spec?
>>586585730howl is good for pve and pvp thoughbeit
>>586585612Honestly, I love the state of ele after the changes today, but I only do PVE and I want an easy rotation for my tired old boomer hands. Also lightning mage fantasy.
Anons I just wanted to tell you that I hope your launch experience is great, and regardless of your region, ruleset, class and race, you enjoy the game to the fullest and Blizzard doesn't betray our expectations.
>>586585597you do realise you're trying to download a guide to a game that's not out yet
>>586585817it is now that it shares hit% and they doubled its damage with this patch notes
>>586585730Yeah idk what this retard's obsession with piercing howl is. Literally not needed at all.>>5865857541% crit or 1% parry also doesn't matter. 1 rage off EVERYTHING is more useful overall.
>>586585806Only thing you'll be getting is a heart attack.
>>586585373more worth for the stealth detection considering half the server will be rogues
>>586585754It's clear you're a retarded camelfucker who doesn't actually know how the game works.Any mob that can cast offensive spells will do so as soon as they're pulled meaning you can interrupt them, which in turn renders the silence part useless
>>586585850thank you anon and same for you*smooch*
>>586585817not really since a large portion of raid mobs are immune to nature damage anyway
>>586585457Really depends if pve or pvp server. Penance if pve, 2/2 wands + shadow if pvp.
>>586585845Is the fantasy also going OOM faster than any other caster in the game? Even if you're fine with the gameplay, the spec is still going to play like shit in most content.
What foods have you stocked up on for launch anons?
I would roll the new sub rogue in an instant if I had actual friends to group with. Seems fucking FUN but never being invited to dungeon groups is such a drag
>>5865853734% doesn't sound like alot untill you remember a fight can be you taking dozens of hits sometimes so its not 4% flat but 4% multiplied by how many tmes your getting hit
>>586585905>>586585730better than booming voice, retards>5/5 booming voicelol
>>586585817They did buff AP scaling on poisons. Also Ass/Sub (32/0/19) could let you do something like Premed - Ghostly Strike - Garrote = 5p SnD - Shank (Venom) - Mutilate, Mutilate = 5p rupture and repeat. Which on paper sounds like a lot of dps. Also as bonus still get double sap lmao
>Gnome Rogue:>larger energy pool to take further advantage of all the extra energy reductions / generation added>it all stacks with Eureka, offering even more insane openers or burst windows now>better Engineering>Nelves:>the extra dodge they get is now less relevant (the dodge = combo points talent was nerfed), but Elune's Light crit openers remain super strong, and they still have their stronger stealth & extra movement speedAlliance Roguebros, which race are you leaning towards? I was previously thinking Nelf, but after these changes Gnomes just seem fucking crazy.
warrior trannies be like "durrr we got no utility" then refuse to take a spammable massive aoe slow
>>586585970I managed to raid naxx as ele without any trouble, just gotta stock up on consumes and be sensible about using CL
>>586585960im sure that will be changed for forlo
>>586585972gonna want a few of these
>>586585972chips are a shit tier gamer foodinsanely high calorieinsanely oilyinsanely saltystill leaves you hungrymakes you thirsty as fuck
>>586586014You can't reach the 3rd tier without 5 points spent you literal fucking retard. Stop talking.
>>586585752>immune to your sap cus ima beast>decurses your death mark at the last second to maximize psychological damageheh nothin personnel kiddo
shit game is shit. blizzard never changed. gg fatggrend.
>>586585373It's quite good although if it becomes common a lot of specs can get a bunch of hit from talents. And many will probably be overcapped easily as gear advances. So it may become less good eventually.
>>586585824It isn't thoughbeit. You're. Not a mage. You need to be in melee. Slowing a pack of mobs is the opposite of what you want In dungeons>B b b but what if I PvP as a a prot warrThen you're a troll and a dead slotYou clearly seem to think you're "Him" but you just look like a clown
>>586586024still nelf for more stealth detection reduction and actually a nice character to look at
>>586586083I do not engage on warriors they are stinky and orcs doubly so!
>>586586024human because they have the best animationsI could not stand my character being a gnomemy 2019 rogue was a nelf so I'm switching it up this time
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/follow-the-arrowIs this shit any good?
>>586586138I'm a night elf druid sis....
>>586584014shadow was good in tbc.
>>586585824It's good for pvp but we are talking about tanking in pve.>>586586034retarded trannies seeing people talking about tanking and bring up pvp utility and refuse to realize how retarded they are
>tanking was too hard so we made it easy :)>1000+ extra quests wasn’t enough buffer exp so we buffed exp :)>deciding which spells to train was too hard so we made them cheaper :)yeah it’s over
>>586586168yesbut its not the best
i wonder what changes they made to raids hopefully ony is all new content/loot
I can't think of any good 2hand fury builds, it's all shit
>>586586014>Retarded paki doubles down on being retarded.Must be that 60+% populating being inbred in full effect
>>586586179Sorry I keep forgetting druids exist most are pve babies
>>586586197wait they buffed quest xp? It was already pretty fast...
Piercing howl is great for dungeons, and so is improved shield bash. I will get both and give everyone a super smooth dungeon experience. It's way better than 1 more point in enrage or whatever.
>>586586229What's the best option then?
>>586586185yeah taking howl for raiding is dumb though I could see a use for saving your retarded groupmates in dungshowl is nice for kiting for just 1 point
>>586586235I hope not, I'd look like a fool reserving viskag and deathbringer and they end up not being on the table
>>586586238>im a brainletwe know
>>586586136but Gnomes ARE nice to look at... What did you mean by your post?
i fear im getting hyped anons... its so close now.
>>586586185i'll be level 60 by the time you finish setting up your keybinds lil gup piercing howl is the most potent defensive in the game
HOLY FUCKING COWABUNGA THANK YOU GOD THE MEATBALL IS DEAD AND WE'RE RAIJIN THUNDER GODS AGAIN
>>586586247I think that's my biggest advantage. horde won't expect a femnelf AGP druid sissy to be competent in pvp
>>586586350Hold your hype sir, you know it's gonna be a shitshow the first day.
ngl ambush spec rogue seems really good for leveling, and you also can just rape anyone in pvp in the open worldthere are going to be so many obnoxious rogues ganking and just double ambush killing you out of nowhere
>>586586273>I will get both and give everyone a super smooth dungeon experiencebased team player chad
>>586586359Is there an ICD to this? Can it back to back endless proc?
So what’s the veredict, what do I think of the patch notes?
>>586586359I hope you get quests to change the color of your lightining to red and yellow
when is name reservation expiring? need to make 1 more char change my rogue into a shaman
>>586586354Cute LARP and all but you're still retarded.
>>586586168I just use good ol' TomTom and set focus on the quest or objective I want to do, especially if its a trek away
prot pally should get divine toll from retail
>>586586359alakir larping motherfuckers
>>586586262exp plus every class is significantly stronger level for level than they were in vanilla. oh and they cranked mob spawns. leveling will be ridiculously fast. but don’t worry, they’re definitely a company with a lot of integrity and a cohesive vision of “the journey”
>>586586447You're gonna roll a heckin rogue and 1v3 people!
>>586586374pls be na pvp :3
Undead RogueTroll ShamanTauren Druid
>>586586447it's over and we're so back
>>586585021Yea pretty much this. Maybe 3/5 parry into 5/5 enrage for dungeon spec. Impale version will go extremely hard once geared.Warbros are in for a good time.
>>586586471they buffed mobs bigly thoughbeit
>>586586359we are so back ele bros
>>586586495nyes :3
IS FERAL TANK VIABLE AGAIN???
>>586586330This is the best I could come up with
>>586586443overloads can't trigger overloads
>two weeks in>okay hunters are obviously dominating pvp and leveling faster, patched>warlock pets scaling, patched>shaman 3 shotting people in pvp, patched>etc.i can see it coming
might respec to ele at 45 and level as ele for the last 15 levels for fun
>>586584063They need to give it a CD or Claude will reduce it's power budget next patch
>>586586643it'll be pretty good as dire bear honestly
>>586586471I'm gonna be a bit pissed if we're doing wotlk numbers at 60
>>586586308>>586585694
>yooooooooo piercing howl is so litty on a clitty it's so good>Look guise I slowed these 4 mobs (pulling more is trolling your group due to the massive nerf to Zoe) and am kiting them >I am now doing no DMG, generating no rage, no threat>And pissing off other melee who have to run after the mobs>And constantly dragging mobs out of stationary aoeYou're not a clown, you're the entire circus. Sit downThis ain't retail where you're supposed to pull 20 mobs and then sperg jump around spamming your free aoe button for 1000% threat
>>586586596a fellow dorf enjoyer i see. what class?
>>586586024Gnome rogues seem broken for PvP, but I don't really care about PvP. Nelves seem funner for general purposes. Faster movement is fun, better stealth is useful, big numbers (crits) are fun, nelf frontflips are fun... Dwarves are still shit and ugly, humans are boring (aesthetically and racials).Only downside is they HEAVILY nerfed the night elf bounce animation (you know the one). Shameful Blizzard.
>>586585806no amount of drugs is going to make a paraplegic like you beat ksuper on hunter lolguilds and speedrunners have literal racing teams to push them ahead. even my shitty ass guild is rolling like 20 warlocks to provide ports to our autistic ""racers"" so they can boosts us through dungeons afterwardsyoull see 60s before sunday ends
more elves
>>586586745a warrior of khaz modan
so restoration is still fucked now or what? all the "DON'T BELIEVE EVERY DATAMINE YOU SEE" copers were wrong again
>>586586663>enh to 40>ele rest of the way>never heal everYeah, I'm gaming.
>dorf shamans will now be nuking people with chain lightning Not my classic. This was a horde unique thing
>>586586769i never understood why dwarf rogue is so unpopular, isnt stoneform great for pvp? atleast against feral or a rogue.
>>586586024nelf for jumping flips
>>586586793in fact I am so desperate for elves that I am considering a troll for my alt
>>586586810PLAY PRIEST (OBJECTIVELY THE BEST HEALER)
>>586586789lmgd is getting mob tagged to level 40, im sure there are other degenerate losers doing similar slopthe first 60 is going to be cringe, its not going to be a solo mage aoe farming. It's going to be some loser getting mob tagged for almost all of it (since hunter damage works on mobs no matter the level)
when the high wears off and you all have to actually play this shit tomorrow it’s gonna be painful. this is a retail patch.
Can't wait for troonphy to get cucked out of winning anything again
>>586586643I really need confirmation so I can decide whether to roll a Druid at launch. Are there any Druid veterans to tell me if Feral Tank is saved?
>>586586796Holy chad energy, im torn between warrior and pala.i kind of want to try holy to see how different it is in forever so might go pala.
>>586586769Doesn't plain simple human offer more crits on average, accounting for downtime on elune's light?It seems like another PvP orientated racial, mostly just for opener burst windows
>>586586895i would rather play a mangled druid than a boring priest. life ain't about minmaxing at the cost of all fun boyo
>>586586406thats me
>>586586715Now also imagine doing this retarded shit in any of the number of dungeons that are full of small corridors and rooms littered with mobs so you have no room to kite anyway except straight backwards the way you came. Imagine this retard doing this shit in BRD kiting down the stairs in general angerforge's room or something.Actual retard. I am thoroughly convinced me and you are the only two decent warrior players posting in here right now.
>>586586447it's fun short term, but long term im worried because it kind of proves the devs have no vision and are just catering to the masses
>>586586904I think the first 60 will actually be 5 60s at once. a dedicated party of autists with a planned route that can run dungeons together will be the first ones to hit 60. Dungeon quest xp and quest gear are still extremely good, the people who are solo leveling won't have anyone to do dungeons with once they get ahead of the pack.
>>586586447rogues got the least beta changes just to get royally sucked off one day before launch.shamans also got unbrickedpaladins better.everybody else got nerfed or sidegrades
>>586586631ill be asking you to healslut for me soon enough
>>586586937Winning what? Being the best in geriatric boomer game?
>>586586904Plot twist: they fixed the game so you don't get xp from mobs you didn't DMG for at least 40% of max hp
>>586586904do you think he still has that dog in him to get first 60 again?
>>586586973bear tank is great. resto druid is good. cat is probably good. balance is okayish. the question is how will it fair in raiding especially once we get deep into raid content with heavy itemization. its either feast or famine
>>586587041Warriors got significantly better I think
Retard who never played classic or beta here.1) How does overleveling dungeons/grouping with lower levels work? Like if a dungeon is level 16 and I level to 23, would it be a complete waste of time to go back and do the dungeon/quests associated with it with my lower level friends? I am an unemployed sweat and my friends are all normies with jobs, are we doomed to never group up unless I just don't play?2) Is there anything I should hang onto while leveling? Like drops that are rare and/or necessary later on?
>>586586863Probably, but Dwarf is ugly, has boring racials, and I personally don't care about PvP, so dwarf offers nothing to meI'd imagine most PvPers would be more interested in epic clip generating openers than "wow I removed bleed" also
if i take piercing howl my master won't ever rape my bussy again so i can't spec into piercing howl because i crave master's big throbbing rod in my asshole
ret broswe are cruising
for those who played the beta, how viable is it to level with just questing and overworld stuff without dungeons? im a commited to dps warrior so im planning on mostly skipping dungeons, maybe do them 1 time here and there
>>586587073Ampy rapes this 3rd world IRL mud hutter
>>586587082looked like some slight upgrades but from where they already were in beta not much changed versus rogues and shamans got significant buffs today
I'm not playing anything else. I'm not watching anything. I'm not listening to anything. Just sitting in a dark room on the floor, waiting for WoW Forever to launch... Bleeding from the knuckles as I punch holes in the walls, pretending to be fighting murlocs on the lakefronts of Elwynn. The sounds repeat in my head: "Hey there," "What can I do for you?" as I speak with Marshal Dughan about the threats the Alliance heartland faces and purchase rare magical goods from Antonio Perelli for a reasonable price... I'm filled with rage at the fact that I'm not in Elwynn Forest, advancing the ideals of the Alliance and completing dangerous quests for powerful equipment and coinage. Turn the servers back on. Turn the servers back on now or I'm going to lose it and start tearing up the floorboards in search of kobolds. I'm losing my fucking mind. Turn the servers back on now. I'm a paladin of the Alliance and you can't do this to me.
>>586587073>aoe farming nerfedehhh
>retailtrooned Forever literally 24 hours before releaseKEKAROOOOO
>>586587018But I did this shit in classic, I didn't have any melee and I just had spell casters and the aoe slow did help
>>586586863male dwarf animations kind of blow, and a lot of people have big qualms about playing a female, even though fem dwarf rogue is very aesthetically pleasing
>>586587201Wow. That’s actually retail as fuck. Is it too late to refund bros?
>>5865871121) youd be fucking their xp grouping with them if youre higher level, just make an alt to play with your friends2) not really. theres stuff like sticky glue, marbles, skull of impending doom but unless youre saving them for a PvP tournament its -1 bank slot
>>586587112if a mob or quest is 4(?) levels below your it stops giving exp
>>586587201>KEKAROOOOOMay you be killed, Inshallah.
>>586582848I ageee they should have rebalanced Lava Burst instead of straight out give up on it
>>586587139That's literally their intention, they want people to spend 99% of their time in the open world exploring and questing, and only doing dungeons once (for quests). So very viable"People" have been whining about it for the past month and a half because they cannot imagine playing the game without spending all of their time in instances or getting boosted
>>5865871121. You can still get some good drops and if its your first clear most of the exp comes from quests. 2. Not really no. If it has Grey text its junk just vendor it, if it has white text it might be useful but probably junk. Green and blues will usually be soulbound (cant be traded) and if they are not upgrades just vendor them. If its bind on equip you can check the ah if its valuable but its probably. But you'll probably just vendor it.
>>586587082arms got a buff which is nice
>>586587194GOOD POST
holy shit those are a lot of changes, is rogue saved or what
>>586587201SarkothGODS we're BACK
>>586587141ahmpy (viewbotter btw) is leveling in some gay 5 man group with homosexual freaks like tommysalamihope their strategy falls flat on its face
>>586587201it's overretoiletification begins
>>5865871121) You can help your low level friends but they wont get exp from the kills but they get full benefit from the quests, same as outside of a dungeon2) There are quest rewards that you can save for lvl60 to be used in raids etc.
>>586587018Especially considering dungeon mobs provide no xp.Guy is clearly a retoilet shitter who thinks he's gonna be kiting 30 mobs that will all magically have unremovable threat on him with one thunderclap, pulling them all the way to the end of the dungeon all while doing triple backflips.Piercing howl is purely a PvP skill and you're not doing PvP as prot
>>586587112If I had friends that are slower than me I'd probably just make an alt to play with them, the extra professions and legacy points can be useful for your main too.
>>586587221Wow that's crazy you ran with a bunch of mages and instead of using blizzard you decided to spec into and use piercing howl?Nevermind i changed my mind, you're in the best warrior club.
>>586587342> the virgin i need 4 other people to get 60vs> the chad jokerd " ill do it myself"
>>586587201>level 1-10 is fasterWOW who cares
>>586587201ummm i just shit myself guys wtf they already ruined everything
>>586587050I'm counting on it anon <3
THANK YOU TO THAT GUY WHO DROPPED THOSE FRIEND CODES IN THESE THREADS A FEW DAYS AGO. I CAN TRY OUT THIS SHIT FOR A WEEK BEFORE DROPPING $20 ONLY TO FIND OUT ITS RETOILET AF
>>586587073Fuck no. You can count on one hand how many people were seriously competing for world first 60 back in 2019 classic and Jokerd happened to be the one who slept the least.Forever on the other hand is going to have FUCKLOADS of people seriously racing to world first 60 using all sorts of different methods and exploits.
>>586587201NO CHANGES
>>586587201Anyone ignoring how bad this is never cared about this game being good or true to classic
>>586587112>2) Is there anything I should hang onto while leveling?I imagine there's still those weird early quest items like the marbles from a Goldshire quest which reduce hit chance on an enemy (ANY enemy), and Light of Elune (100% immunity, one time use) which you'll keep in your bank forever waiting for some epic heroic moment to use it that won't come.otherwise not really
>>586587141ahmpy is playing with his gf and fucking gunnar. Theres a reason youre not seeing his name on the speedrun leaderboard.he's going to be miles ahead of most but has literally 0 chance of actually being first anything.
>>586586973>bear was the best tank>new patch>doesn't change anything>ask if it's good nowdo you have brain damage maybe?
>>586587306ngl, kind of excited to level with questing this time around
>>586587479Hyperspawns already weren't classic
>>586587286depends on your level. -4 levels is only very early
So paladin is the AOE tank no contest and warrior is the ST tank
>>586587201GoodThis is classic plus and NOT classic era
>>586586973Feral is ruined. Resto is ruined. Oomkin was never good. We're full pick another class. T. Druid veteran
>>586587141Troonphy has never won a single thing.Lost world first max lvl every time due to his own retardation refusing to allow him to just close a few fucking wow clientsLost scarab lord because he's a subhuman piece of shit who somehow managed to be such a trashbag the entire server colluded to cuck him out of banging the gong
>if we make a game for everyone, we’re making a game for no one>makes a game for everyonedead in 6 months or less. now we wait for yet another basement packed with russians that have more passion about the game to create a good pserver again.
>>586587532kinda but clap generates a shitload of threat now with defensive stance
>>586587306goodwow forever IS about the worldyou SHOULD be spending 99% of your time exploring ,questing whatever
>Blizzard adjusts something by 0.01%>IT'S RETROON!!!! - This thread AND Reddit
warriorjeets be like dayumn i ain't takin no utility on my kit dawg i need to #pump
Are these patch notes all new changes because they don't make much sense. Why is hunter being buffed?
>no priest nerfs or sidegrades>no last minute gnome racial (or priest racial) nerfsHow did your main fair? I'm feeling good.
>>586587646plain english is hard isn't it
>>586587427Wanna bet 1-60 will take aprox the same time it took to 1-30 in the beta?
>>586582848thank god, they didn't listen to your troon nigger assthe game is shitty enough as is
These changes are so bad Sarthe lost 70% of his hairline
>>586587689Retard
>>586587638So now a kick locks out elemental's entire fucking kit with lava burst gonegreat job you dunces
>>586587410I don't have blizzard why would I use it? Are you ESL? Do you really think 1 point really prevented me from tanking? Answer that you faggot!
I feel like the people that are raging about dungeon EXP are an extremely small minority of obnoxious players, that we would be better off if they fucked off to retail or something else instead of constantly ruining classicbug eyed freaks like esfand that want to sit there zonked out of his mind doing nothing, getting carried by 4 retard simpsor parsetard raidfags like ahlaundoh that only want to raidlog
>>586587675shiet crackkka you be spittin yo #fax
>>586587610>for everyonenot for era boomersnot for wotlk slavniggersnot for mazersnot for mytic raid fagsnot for arena retardsnot for housing auntsnot for delvin melvins
>>586587731Retard.
>>586587731This is what you wanted, you all whined about how bad Lava Burst sucked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Ne9sRcSrM
if paladin is the dungeon tank and warrior is the raidboss tankwhat is druid
>>586587792ahlaundoh isn’t playing any more because of the rogue changes
>>586587201Based
Warrior is still the only real tank thanks to providing thunder clap, demo shout and sunder armor
>>586587792It's much more simple than that actually. It's just 3rd worlders sad that they won't be able to sell boosts anymore to feed their families.
>>586587837mediocre at everything as nature intended
>>586587837>what is druidThe best tank overall.
>>586587881and piercing howl, the strongest ability in the game
ah this is funnyif you click "patch notes" on the launcherthis is what you see
>>586587837a bear
Paladin DW DPS when
>guild has made it 100% mandatory for all Rogues to roll Gnome now (it's no longer optional but encouraged, but now explicitly required)Fuck. I wanted to play a night elf...I guess they're right, though.
>>586587837The healer
>>586587926when is wod
>>586587479that why we've been calling it retail minus since day one hello?
>>586587934Retard.
>>586587934why would gnome be mandatory? and why would you listen to these faggots?
wrath forever please
pretty good build i think
>>586587792STFU retard, streamers gave you ClassicStreamers gave you tournamentsStreamers gave you SoDStreamers gave you ForeverThese people have to entertain millions of viewers 16 hours a day. It is a brutal experience. Show some respect. Them having to do the same stupid fucking boring quests on their 9 alts is disgusting and against the spirit of banilla>run Scarlet Monastery once>your loot doesn't drop>no point in running it again because you get zero XP out of itIm not doing your shitty custom new tranny questlines. Should've just overhauled the base dungeons like Epoch did instead of this cringe shit. Nobody likes questing except the biggest PvE braindead dragon killer dadgamers who like collecting 50 bear poop to feel like a man
>>586587934>guild leader wants a different gnomeahole per dayB-b-based...
Please post Whitemane...
>>586587986Why, because I wanted to play a night elf? Rude.I mean I know they're worse, but I liked the aesthetics. But gnomes are just too strong now for the guild leaders to let this pass any longer.>>586588023They're the guild leaders, they know best. And Gnomes are considerably better damage dealers now, you'd be tanking to not go one as a Rogue.
>>586588061Retard
>>586587934you sound like a sissy
do i just ditch shadow priest and go rogue it seems like its literally designed by an entirely different dev team what the fuck
>>586587381But I did this in classic
>>586587479It's over. If you can actually afford all your skills while leveling that is retail transcoded commie shit and I won't stand for it. We demand to be unable to buy and use our class skills, the way it used to be!
>>586588045this one is better
>>586587847lmfao reallyhe couldnt bear to see a rogue top dps so he'd rather not play at all
>>586588113Bro shadow priest is DEAD don't play that gay shit, if u don't play Gnome Rogue you are KEKW'ing
>>586588061But there is a point. You just admitted so. To get loot.>b b but epoop overhaulThere are 10 new dungeons. Which is better than epoop's one overhauled making it way worse btw) dungeon
>>586588141Don't worry, all the crafting enjoyers are still gonna be unable to afford them. But at least they will make some cool lvl 30 helmets.
>>586587486You mean really sticky glue.Which I kept for years and never used. Ever.
Don't worry bros Theres a whole nother day left Im sure your meme spec will get a rework like rogue did LOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>586588165This. I was going to go warlock after seeing what happened in the tourney, but now rogues can 1v3 WTF
>>586588186Lol
>>586588081
>>586588253They already said next changes will come when the raids are released
>>586588283Spoiler that shit nigga
>GUYS BLIZZARD LITERALLY HAD TO REMOVE SALV AND BUFF TANK THREAT BY 50%>EVERYONE DEALS MORE DAMAGE SO THEY NEED MORE THREAT!!!!Why? Why does anything deal more damage? When the entire community spent years asking for “basically classic but with some added content true to the original work”, where was anyone mentioning “every single class should be reworked to resemble nothing of its classic version and also do 5x more damage”? I don’t remember anyone asking for any of this. Literally would have been better PR if they cloned classic 1:1 and just threw in a 20 man furbolg raid
>>586584349>horde troonyou are still getting raped by alliance rogues btw
>>586583396Skill issue
>>586588285Made for blond boys (me)...
>>586587934imagine doing this kind of shit for pve of all things l m a oraiding is srs bsns guys
i will get the first lionheart helm recipe i will get the first elemental sharpening stone recipei will get rank 14 i will get scarab lord i will get thunderfury i will get sulfurasthis time it's MY time
>>586588345You will play retail- and like it
so is alex going to cave in and play or what
>>586588386do you have these in higher res?
so crazy to me what they did to rogue meanwhile the specs they promised to make viable are just half baked TBC/WOTLK dogshit that barely function next to this literal god hero tier class. can i still refund forever?
ROGUE BROS WE ARE SO BACK
>>586588406You’ll get to level 32, burn out for a week, come back, limp to 60 for another 3 weeks and enjoy your shitter bottom prio raid slot like usual. You haven’t changed.
>>586588432yes, he's a hypocrite and will play 100%
>Guild demands all EleShamans go skyelfI-I always liked them desu. Sex elves!!!
>>586588432That mentally ill bastard would rather die before admitting he was wrong.
didnt they say 5 days ago that that was the LAST patchwhy they finna patching the WHOLE FUCKING GAME 24h before launch on gawd
>80%+ threat on all tanks>+30% damage for every classTotally not Retail- btw!
>>586587920+60% dmg bro, not 30
>>586586603I never stopped believing
>>586587934Yeap and this is why I didn't roll ally with my speedrunner friends. Fuck that shit in this particular game. I would 100% on retail or tbc/wrath but not here.
>>586588435theres probably a dump on the web but higher res stuff is paywalled
>>586587934Not even memeing, my guild has just publish its final say on which race to choose as each class. Which one is objectively the best pick. If you don't follow it, you'll likely be benched or downgraded to just a "social" member of the guild (probably just kicked later to be honest, it's not a social guild).
>>586588464no, it's different now. this time... it's... Forever...
>>586588580Prove it. Post it here.
>>586588493Why did they increase threat generation? Was something removed that could lead to this? Perhaps some buff or something? You got any ideas? Since you seem like quite a smart individual.
>>586588483>he has keklementals in his guild
You retards have watched kneejerk patch after kneejerk patch drop for nearly 2 months now and you’re still dumb enough to take the bait on rogue fotm when it will absolutely be changed significantly no less than 20 more times. Zero survival skills.
>>586588624you don't want to know the answer to that questiondo NOT hover over the spoiler belowthey don't know what they are doingi warned you
https://foreverchanges.pro/talents/rogue/ZmkVk2DkDdso would this be the best combat spec?maybe take off the point in flawless execution but 15 energy cost reduction is nice
>>586588624Yeah but a side effect is that dungeon tanking just got a shitload easier. Most groups didn't have a paladin or use salv for dungeons
>>586588606I'm not breaking the NDA just for a (You), anon.
>>586588580I don't believe you
>>586588386>>586588574>copy pasted 3d models with a filter>speedtreeinto the trash
>>586588624they got rid of salvation and the alliance sissies don't know how to tank properly without it
>>586583861im shankmaxxing and going 21/30
if you're in an autistic min/max elitist speedrun guild and you're not even a top 3 guild in the world you and all the members of it should off yourselves so the devs can actually improve the game without you losers whining constantly
>make pallies cross faction>remove salvthis is just like classic! holy heck aggrendchad!
i don't believe anyone saying their guild is forcing races for specific classesBtw i am guildless and i will play Shaman Tauren
>>586588683this is a great build and you should go with it, and recommend it to your friends too
BRING MISSILE BARRAGE BACK TO ROW 1 YOU FUCKING RETARD DEVSHAHA HERE HAVE SOME ARMOR INSTEAD LMAO
>>586588776Its not a thing. Even the sweatiest of sweats dont care about that shit.
>>586588776>Btw i am guildless and i will play Shaman Taurensame
>>586588795I agree its a five bagger
>>586588580If this is real you are a supreme cuck for being in such a retarded guild. I genuinely literally unironically cannot fathom being such a faggot i let some random retard tell me what to play or how to customize my character to participate in content i could do with my eyes closed.
>>586588776I'm autistic and socially inept so I'll likely also remain guildlessBut regarding races, the difference is so slight and Vanilla content is so easy that it really, really does not matter outside of PvP.
>>586588776Based fellow cow enjoyer
There is an idol that makes boomkin form viable that drops in the new end game content. There just is okay.
>>586588580>>586588691Why are you still in that guild?
It's been hoursWhere are the updated talent calcs?
>>586588959https://foreverchanges.pro/talents/
>>586588580>raids just consist of 40 gnomes
blizzard should have banned everybody that played world of warcraft classic at any point from 2019-today. get all the trash out of the playerbase and you can make the game you want to make without people ruining it by treating it like a job
was I supposed to have already found a guildI was just going to level to 60, and join whatever guild invites me when I play with some person doing quests or whateveror is that sort of organic guild dead now
>>586588386damn thats a fucking kino image
>>586589016>wahhhh my MMO shouldn’t take time because I’m a wage slave wahhh
>>586588815Yea they do. My friends specifically rolled alliance to speedrun with our guild because of racials.
Wowyerbros...we won...we are so back.
not being able to get improves ghost wolf as ele sucks now
>>586589019you're late, everyone has already partnered up for the group projectand you're not wearing any pants or undies
>>586589004This vibecoded garbage forced me to do a force refresh because it cached the old talent trees so I didn't even notice that it had updated.
>>586589019getting invited to non spam / "levelling" guilds hasnt been a thing since 2006
resto druids got raped lol
>>586589060i did not mean time investment, i meant the hyper-optimizing spreadsheet following fucking losers that don't even have fun playing the game
>>586588457I didn't think I'd see Yoshihiko here
If you don't have a guild by now i hope you are rolling atleast pvpIf you are not in a guild already and rolling PvE....dude, what the fuck are you doing?
>>586589019Of course not. People recruiting and joining on beta are retarded. Half the people there probably won't even make it to 60 in any kind of reasonable time so why anyone would be already planning raid groups is beyond me.
>>586589140internal testing from 30-60 found their prior state to be extremely broken on all accounts and the 0.5s GD was so out of the classic philosophy it broke the entire class. wild growth being instant cast was ludacris. anyone whining about the class getting raped is just a fotm meta tranny. go play priest and good riddance
>>586589147>mad because people are better than you and you think you should get the same rewards and character progressLiberal?
>>586589101>arms gets access to blood craze and raging blows nowUGHOOUGFHHHHHGG IM CLEAVIIING
Can't decide between Warlock or Rogue lads, anyone else undecided on their mains?
>>586589236i'm not sure how to respond to this post, is there a optimized efficient guide i can follow to know what to say? or perhaps a youtube video i can watch to know what to think?
>>586587647>gutted dual trap>buffed
>>586589231baseded
>>586589242If you're the guy from before you better not be sacrificing a point from impale to grab fucking spearing strike. I saw that shit and it was retarded.
>>586589019It depends. You could join some established sweaty guild now but otherwise it doesn't really matter. LOTS and LOTS of guilds will fall apart quickly and even more will need people as others quit. Just play well and be social and you'll make it.
>>586589242https://foreverchanges.pro/talents/warrior/LZkXK2YTWrFUCK this looks so fun I can't wait
GUYS UNDEAD OR HUMAN WARLOCK I CANT DECIDE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Does Forever have a race change?
>>586589369what does the guide say little timmy? don't think, just follow
>>586589314mad
>>586589337you can do 2/2 impale and spearing though but no I'm not the guy>>586589364this is what I cooked and idk it looks finecan get imp charge instead 2% parry but I don't think is neededspearing would be nice for pvp dismounting, that's all
>warrior changes>no prot buffsProtbros.... They should have removed revenge cd
Do not play mage solo. Hunters and especially Rogues can now alpha mages within few seconds.>but Ill be based Fire and just instant them downFire and Arcane mages are the most vulnerable due to not having Ice Barrier.>Ill just put up Mana ShieldThey will be able to punch through it in about the same time it takes you to put one up.You will have shitty time as a mage unless you are playing in a group.
>>586589206my rogue isnt called sweets for nothing
Why shouldn't I play tank shaman?
>>586589506its even worse for warlocks
>all these ally cucks going gnome rogue>*be me, a horde gigachad*>presses WOTF>breaks your Sap and make me immune to sapHorde ALWAYS win baby, ally sissies can only cope
I can't decide what to playMy friend is going shockadin so I need a PvP duo with himAnd his guild wants a ranged DPS so I was thinking hunter or boomkin druid
>>586589019fuck I want to binge eat so bad
>>586589369Are you rolling on PVP? Just let the faction lock decide for you
warriornigs be like ugh my class gets raped and shit on in pvp but i WON'T take any utility talents that would help me with that because i need to #pump big damage
>>586589563ironically locks will fare better due to having 30% damage reduction and instant voidwalker sacmages are the new mushrooms
>>586589231Panic rerollers think Swiftmend consumes a HoT because of the slight word changing lol. These people are actually retarded and won't play their favourite class because it's not 5% better than other healing classes. Actual tranny retoilet mentality that they refuse to not bring into Forever.
I just want to see what the new sets look like on other races....
people who play with controllers should have a controller buff icon so we can know who too kick from the group
>>586589231I thought you said blizzard fired all their internal testers
Any fellow undead paladinchads here care to critique my trannymoggers? Just completed the set.
>>586583104I sit down at home, no one is a master sniper to not get some droplets out while standing.
>>586589630what can I say I'm a pvmper
>>586589506Leveling Arcane in PVE thoughbeitarbeit
>>586589654Who is "you"
>>586589647That set looks designed for orcs
>>586589206>>586588457Is this show a giant shitpost or something? I've seen webms of it over the years but every time it feels like nothing is taken seriously
>>586589650You will not need an icon to spot them anon.
>>586589502You're fucking retarded if you really think this
>>586589647https://hyjal.cc/item-sets
what should I name my troll rogue on rp pvp
>>586589650Someone will make an addon for that, if one hasn't already been made.
What are the chances of dps warriors standing in cleave and intentionally taking hits in order to proc enrage?
>>586585679Post your build then, masta.Unironically asking, Im retarded...
>>586589647rp server player?
do you think I'm good to set my alarm to wake up 20 minutes before launch, or should I get up like 2 hours early incase I need to sit in a queue or something
>>586589567>immuneLol
waitele shaman can go deep into enhance, get ghost wolf, get 6 sec stormstrike, AP from INT and the 3 point elemental weapons.can we be melee casting battle shaman now in pvp? even pve? Imagine a warrior or rogue opening on you and you stormstrike+shock, earth bind, ghost wolf out, LB+CL and they're forced to close into melee for another stormstrike.
>>586589772Why not? That would be so kino
>>586589567Since when WOTF break sap?
>>586589836you can't really do that since you need water shield and mana regen from resto
>>586589826realistically you could set it for 2 hours after launch and still not get in
>>586589805Browns wouldn't just do something like that... would they?
>>586589742it has been a foreign concept for the past decade or two but it's something called a "parody" and is overall categorised as a "comedy"
>>586589836Maybe for PVP memes but I imagine you need the mana regen from resto for PVE
>>586589836The mana regen from resto is way too mandatory
>>586589742It's a lighthearted self-aware show that pokes fun at JRPG cliches (especially Dragon Quest) but is very clearly doing so out of love for the genre.
>>586589880It is within their nature.
anyone else completely lost the will to play the game? I think the hype pre launch was more fun than playing, I'm already dreading it
>>586589836I'd rather go full resto and dip into enh tree for ap from int and stormstrike. Going to be hilarious
>>586589776thx
Where's the add-on that brings back spit and auto spits on every skyborne and only people with the add-on can see
>>586589826If you are smart you set it about 14 hours after launch
>>586589946you are weak-minded. imagine letting an unreleased videogame do this to you
>>586582469This is what happens to elf women if they eat slop food made by the lesser and shorter lived races. Sad display to see.
>>586589946I'm dreading the queue and finding a name since all the paypigs got the good ones
>>586589946You've probably got depression or some shit kek
>>586589506i fail to see how the usual blink sheep /laugh wont own every single rogue as usualat most they can blind you to reset the fight but by that time you can just blink again
>>586589630>pvpLOL
erm
>>586588338the one on the right is from turtle
>>586582523>he’s not poopsocking day 1 for raid prio full rxp minmax humidsweatyhttps://youtu.be/yD_kL04cE_c
>>586589826I'd just set it for launch. But the time you wake up, have your morning coffee and breakfast or whatever, and eat out your girlfriend (male), the server should be stable enough for you to get in.
All the servers should share the same BGs but PvP and RP-PvP should get priority on BG queues, otherwise they will get fucked over from unbalanced factions from PvE servers.This is common sense.
>>586590108I'm aware, I miss turtle.
>>586589946i'm dreading it because i already know the playerbase has and will continue to suck all of the soul out of the game just like they did with every version of classic. yes the devs are bad, but the players are worse
*shocks u*
Discord mod metldown lmao
>>586589818https://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/warrior/v203-550500001-250033120301021351_t0_r95/2BEffHfkknkAgSrqTv1BADj2q0bbbCalculator isn't updated yet so just imagine the 5/5 unbridled wrath is actually 5/5 enrage.
>>586590193But shamans got what they wanted?
>>586589946>Im sleepy, we should all go to sleep!Is this all you got?
>>586590153fuck off pserv tranny
>>586590092cute choker, whore
>>586590193>Shaman gets buffed across the board>throw a hissy fit and shuts it all downI fucking hate modern shaman sissys so fucking much
>>586590151No. I will mow down the "based" olympus legions.
>>586590248the ele identity is doing no damage
>>586590193holy fuck what an incredible faggot
>>586590038look at the numbers, they can get a kill from two or three melee globalsdid you play a mage through classic or on private servers? do you remember how world pvp went? now imagine rogue damage output is around 50% higher and concentrated while your defense is about the same>but my damage output is also higherdoesnt matter when you are already dead
>>586590176What does female dwarf look like in that?
>>586590193do lava burst sissies really?
>>586590268not only that but they caved in and made ele the "chain lightning main skill" guy by removing lava burst like they wanted
>>586590298
So now that the dust has settled, should I do warrior or shaman first?
>>586590193>mod act like a sissy faghmm
>>586590193what class fantasy is getting destroyedshaman seems pretty good now, they proly need to add something to elemental so its not just spamming lightning bolt, but no one wanted lava slopis it some dual-wield enhance troon trying to falseflag or something
>NOOOOO YOU GOTTA WORK FOR YOUR THREAT TANKS>NOOO THEY CANT JUST GIVE YOU ALMOST 100% THREAT BECAUSE YOURE A TANKWhat is going on in some peoples minds?
>>586590193I’m glad no one in this general or on any discord of wowfg or cg or other, has ever been this faggy.
>>586590193You can't be serious
>>586590354This is why transmog exists
If I was an rsham I’d be pissed too. What they did to riptide was criminal
>>586590193What is the actual fucking point of these class discords? a quick google search will yield much better answers to anything for your class than a random discord full of troons.
>wake up>massive balance change and world change the day before launchwhat the fuck happened over night
i know both are kind of meme specs in pve, but who is less bad, ret pally or arms warrior?
>>586590368Is there a based shaman discord I can join?
>>586590193>Classic Fantasies are getting destroyedlike being shit and useless and forced into resto?
>>586590151>PVPers need special treatment and protection from PVE serverslol lmao even
>>586590289>base their whole identity on being an underdog>can't accept they aren't an underdog anymoreSums up the last decade of american politics to be fair.
>>586590193kek, faggotback in my day it was dot shock, bus shock and mass suicides in thunderbluff.
>>586590193Enhorsement bros...
>>586590386>NOOOO YOU GOTTA WORK FOR YOUR THREAT TANKS>BTW IM NOT TAKING ANY PERKS THAT REDUCE MY THREAT AND WILL ALSO BURST OUT EVERYTHING I HAVE IN THE FIRST 5 SECONDS OF EACH FIGHT>WHY YOU LOSE AGGRO WTF IS WRONG EITH YOU RETARD SCRUB
>>586590426>NOOOOOO>PvP servers NEED to suffer long queue times like the PvE sissys do because... JUST BECAUSE OKAY!!!
>>586590409Ret pally is fine now. Arms is still a pvp spec and shit in pve.
>>586590451Discord is so full of stupid troons
New blue post:>Shaman is deleted from the game, hope you're happy now.
>>586590471literally kek this is what always happens
>>586590193>WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED>NO I WILL NOT LIST OFF ANY OF THE SUPPOSED STUFF WE WANTED
>>586590243Nice, thanks.If they wont change warrior further, I will use this.
Aggrend is going to buff shaman into being the absolute GOD class again like he did for most of SoD isn't he? They won't be happy until all shaman specs are top dps specs, they have survivability of tanks and all specs can instantly heal themselves to full in one instant cast heal with no cooldown just like they did in SoD
>>586590479>pretending this is about queue timesyou will get gaped and you will like it pvp chud
Resto shaman capstone talent is…a 12 second CD renewEpic
>>586590193>>586590451Is this because of lava burst?No one liked that stupid shit ugly ass meatballShamans are now more inline with warcraft 3 and it should stay that way>buh but they're supposed to be masters of the elementsSHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO TO RETAIL
>>586590471lol this isn't what happens
Good morning fellow priestchads, good to see that other “healers” finally know their place as our mere backups
>>586590193I have only seen positive reactions to the shaman changes. The fuck is this literal faggot going on about?
So this is how totemsissies react to massive buffs. Perhaps they should be reverted to their true classic state after all... But keep the raid wide totems of course.
>>586590354Aw damn I thought it was gonna be a full fox face like Kon from Kamen Rider, nevermind, staying male.
>we made a random discord so we speak for an entire classmmmmmmmmmm nyo
>>586590409they'll both be completely fine in raids and dungeons probably. anyone saying definitively otherwise isn't thinking about how the game actually plays and are only thinking about individual numbers that aren't even finalized and never will be in this version of the game
>>586590596ESL freak
>>586590471>was concerned about demo not being able to get the full threat reduction talent>tank threat gets a casual 50% buff
>>586590561Just to reiterate the 5/5 unbridled wrath will actually be 5/5 enrage which will be moved up a slot on the tree. Do not actually take unbridled wrath lol. I'm sure you know but some people here are kind of retarded.
>>586590193>discord mod name coloursevery single time
How does one cure tanxiety especially in wows toxic community?
how are they planning to deal with pvp now that people do significantly more damage this shit does not feel thought through
>All crafted common and uncommon quality wands now sell at vendors for 1 copper.Thats gonna cause a lot of tears from wannabe entrepeneurs
>>586590243retardbro...
>>586590602that buffs the most powerful healing spell in the game...>>586590672Make your own groups, ignore anything anybody says besides MAYBE the healer and kick anybody who annoys you. That's what I've done for the last 20 years and its worked for me
>>586590659>can't read basic english>still seethingspiritually poojeet
Troll elemental shaman seems kinda fun desu.
>warlock pet NERFD>hunters BUFFEDlmao if you want a pet class play hunterbm for leveling and soloingmm for raiding and pvpits that shrimple
>>586590665Dont worry bwo, Im not THAT retarded.But I will pull 6+ mob every encounter and blame you and the healers if I die.
>>586590354Where's her beard?
>>586590193lol
>>586590803between her legs
>>586590741My original post mentioned queues directly and you completely mistranslated it you dumb fucking jeetkys
>>586590739>ignore anything anybody saysBut i dont wanna be a nuisance to everyone :(
>>586590672tanks just got turbocharged you'll be fine
>>586590674you either roll a rogue or die
>>586590674>planning to deal with pvpLMAOOOOOOpvp has and always WILL be an afterthought especially in wow forever where the exploration and questing is integral
ROGUECHADS what are we thinking? how are you going to be leveling now? daggers or swords? which tree?
>>586590687Enrage is being moved up and will be next to bloodcraze my retard friend. The calculator just isn't updated yet cause it got announced a few hours ago.
Shamanbros they're all laughing at us...
>>586590828You're the tank, they would be sitting outside the instance spamming chat if it weren't for you. They should worship the ground you walk on. Simple as.
>>586590674Increasing everyone's damage by 30% a couple of days before release is insane. This game is clearly not ready at all. Makes me think release date was set a long time ago to placate the masses for when something big happens
>>586590828The only reason those losers even get to play the game is by staying in your good graces
>>586590193Aggrend...
>>586590891combat, sapping 3 targets, gonna be annoying the fuaaaark out of alliance players
>>586590672don't invite people with meme names, don't invite female characters (they're all autistic minmax efficiency trannies). there are no mechanics in classic dungeons so you don't really need any knowledge besides where to go
Seems like people unhappy that priest is just the best healer now Hope they buff discipline even more.
thoughts on prot warrior pvp?
>>586590942WHOTHE FUCKCARES NIGGER?Classic was never fucking balanced. Have fun you faggot retard.
>>586590193Total tranny death
>>586590891It is much harder to maintain relevant daggers than swords. I'll probably start as combat like normal but I might switch to sub once I have some points to spend.
>>586590983>nowpriest has always been the best healer of classic and druid has always been the dead weight of healers in classicnothing has changed in that respect
>>586582596based
are we expecting another patch or is the game releasing as is?
the retards crying about damage increase across the board are all retail babies
>>586591038All my alts look like this.
>>586591050Expect the unexpecteded
>Guild switching to PvE because of the Rogue changesIts over...
>>586590672you have to do dungeon homework
>>586591038>none with pink hairnvm i'll pass.
>>586591068Mobs at 60 have twice the HP they had in classic so obviously damage increases were going to happen
>>586591021fuck off retard there is a big difference between the game not being balanced and PvP being a battle between who one shots who first
>>586590995Who knows. It used to be retarded, but now in forever shield slam and revenge hit like trucks so maybe it won't suck?
>>586590296they have moved rogues away from burst damageambush backstab does fuckall, an unspecced backstab is less damage than a sinister strike, it's silly
>>586590942>hysterics over imaginary numberswarlock at best got a 10%. cry less please
>>586589589i am rolling pvp i already have horde characters made
>>586590672>>586590828Bro I'm the same. I want to play prot warrior cause sword and shield sound cool. But I'm scared to tank...
>>586591036Swiftmend was never changed (unlike what trannies had been trying to claim over the past 3 days) so Druid is still an a good healer. Not as good as Priest but still better than Shaman and Paladin by a margin so it's sitting exactly where it should be on the totem pole.
My druid will be dedicated to raping roguesenjoy NEVER being able to stealth little cuck boy
>>586590193This is missing some context. 1. This is a similar gambit to what has happened around a year ago on retail. Paladins shut down their class discord over the class having shit designs and throughput for all specs. They were very loud, a ton of people posted about it on the forums and social media, and they were immediately buffed. They've been a top-tier class ever since. 2. icyveins, wowhead, mobalytics, random youtubers, etc. they're all in these class discords spitballing shit and reviewing sims together. To imply they're not influential is pure stupidity. They're all cooking with the same ingredients. We can have arguments about their actual merits though.3. Have you considered its all very funny content to keep yourself busy until launch? It doesnt matter. Its all a video game. Get over yourself if you're seething about a discord mod.
>poll on the friend group's discord>14 votes for PvE>3 votes for RP>1 vote for pvp (me)Guess i'm not playing this one with irl friends, then
>>586591157retard.
>>586589567it doesnt break sap or make you immune lol
>>586591190>but still better than Shaman and Paladin by a marginby what metric? sims that assume you have a party of 5 people with infinite missing health? sure they are fine healers for dungeons but they are going to be borderline useless in raids unless every other healer is retarded or also a druid
>>586591219Shut the fuck up tranny
>>586591227Not playing with your friends is more gay than not playing on pvp. Make an alt. Experience Azeroth together with The Lads
>press reckless swings>press sweeping strikes>cleave down shittersCOMFY GAMEPLAY UPON US SOON
>>586591219no one is seething ya clueless tranny, we're all laughing at your meltdown
>>586590153same
>>586591227whats the point of polling if you were going to throw a hissy fit anywaykind of makes you look like a fag... publicly in front of all of your "friends"
>>586591227How does it feel to be the biggest retard in your group?
>>586590768>forced to take lone wolf at 60>pet class
>>586591307it's not like RS gives you any damage so you would pop it beforealso, from the makers of bloodrage we give you bloodrage 2? weird ass change
>>586590672>>586591179I'll admit this happened to me but tanking is way too fun to ignore because of a few retards that may ruin the pull or get mad at some random inconvenience. Most people don't really care especially in leveling dungeons where half the people don't know how the dungeon works and use them to learn the basics.
>>586591227Damn you have 17 friends?
>>586591217Enjoy me lockpicking your boypussy ;^)
i can't believe throwing a tantrum over lava burst
If turtle never died we would've never got forever so I am thankful its gone Forever™
>>586591318>>586591286I don't understand the aggression here. If you weren't seething about anything, you weren't targeted. But I hope you both have a wonderful day.
>>586591281By many metrics paladins are shit. You can tell because they didnt reveal the oath of light numbers because they still dont know what to do with it.
>>586591281As it stands, for raid healing, Druids have the largest numbers. So it's funny that you bring up raiding as the weakest link in the situation. Paladins are still only best for tank healing, and resto Shamans have been weirdly gutted today that they're kinda just worse Druids in raids.
>>586591467everyone is throwing a tantrum over everything in the game for a month now. you can't please any of these losers
>>586590672Blizzard should have a sort of customer support where an older woman gently tells you what to do and leads you through the dungeon.
>>586591219You aren't as smart as you think.
>>586591219>the troon is also obsessed with star warsgrow up freak
>>586591467I assumed it's over riptide and ghost wolf
>>586591491Paladins have every single took that druids have but better and not in HoT form... except for innervate and battle rez which is just support youll be casting on the real healers
first thing to do is park alts to get rested exp
FRESH>>586591575>>586591575>>586591575
>>586591564so that you reach lvl 2 in 2 minutes and not in 3?
>>586591529>>586591541I'm just a normal cishet straight dude.
>>586591515have you healed since 2007? hots are shrimply trash
>>586591021You stupid tranny virgin. It's not about balance it's about changing everything every week aka clearly not having a set fucking direction for a product that's due to release imminently
>>586591564Why would I want to speed up the leveling process?
>>586591515>Druids have the largest numbersAccording to sims, which assume that you have an entire group of people with infinite missing heal as wild growth is target specific and heal over time. It's also assume there are no other healers casting chain heal or PoM poaching your healing on said group (which every single raid will have). HoTs are not practically in classic, every other class can fully heal anybody in a single heal, you will never get even 50% of the healing output from any of your HoTs and swift mend has a 15 second cooldown.
>>586591631retard
>>586591590Why make an OP thread this early if you're not going to update it?
>>586591564>park all my alts weeks before i Intend to play them>now, all of the two and a half first mobs I'll kill will grand me double xpA winner is you
>>586590407wrong
>>586591281you priestoid faggots always want to make druids appear worse than they are. kys for unironically believing you need to "fight for a raid spot" in this game because you're projecting your incredibly low irl self worth.
>>586588345Look unc we're clearing raids at level 57 in greens and that's because we're vastly superior to you in every way, not because this version of vanilla is easy baby cakes bullshit just like classic.
>>586591219This is missing some context.1. This is a similar gambit to what happened around a year ago on retail. Paladins shut down their class discord over a 3% buff because the leader of the discord personally thought the class deserved a 5% buff despite ret paladin already being one of the top specs in the game. They were very loud, a ton of people posted about it on the forums and social media, and the retail devs are so retarded they actually gave them another small buff. Other class discords have dreamt about pulling off this level of autism ever since.2. blah blah blah i'm a stupid faggot.3. Have you considered that i'm a seething faggot? It doesn't matter. Its a video game. Shut up and stop making me seethe by pointing out how retarded it is we're trying to copy the paladin discord from a while ago.
>>586591167you'll be crying when I oneshot you with my hunter and there's nothing you can do about it
>>586591698cope now, seething comes later
>>586591515Hots get sniped in raids by other healers. Especially chain healBig numbers arent that important if 75% of the duration is on a max health target
>>586588491Because they remembered they said rogues would be good and they were dog shit.
>>586591219the mod is clearly a tranny with his transcoded animated discord name and having a meltdown due to some sims lmao. He's not doing it for pre release fun, shut the fuck up
>>586591752>what is pre-hotting before big damage>what is rot damageYou people don't actually play the game? Stick to your FOTM tranny tinkering.
>>586591715>3. Have you considered that i'm a seething faggot?May as well ask if somebody's considered grass if green anon. We know you're gay. You dont have to make it your whole personality.
>>586591669what needs to be updated?
>WE WANT CHANGE>didn't even say what they want changedbrilliant.
>>586591423Yeah but like dungeons i MIGHT stomach that but raids...
>>586591227no irl friends of mine could ever be pve players anon. Speaks a lot about you as a person
>>586591752No you don't understand the 500 HP bloom heal after my 21 second regrowth HoT expires is going to be HUGE!!!>>586591864THIS! Everybody knows ONLY druids can precast heals and nobody else will be this clever ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>>586590672Make your own groups (it will fill instantly), then kick anyone you dont like.
>>586591467ele was in a horrible position before and is more boring now at least projection had its CD lowered from 2 minsbut yeah riptide got shit on as did imp GW
>>586591874Not like we've got new patch notes or anything, and the list of wowfg guilds is missing, even if you don't include links to their trannycords it's still good to know which guilds to actively avoid.
>>586588687Easy tanking is what made WOTLK gay and shit and ended WoW as a good game.Lemme guess, no need to use crowd control ever either? Faceroll tard charges like retail.
>>586590893thanks fagbro
>>586591950We both know YOU are not clever in any capacity, which is why you're sitting here seething that Priests are hardly considered more "viable" than any other healing class now. Reminder that the content in this game is easy enough for any retard, including You, to clear it with any class with any group comp.
>>586591227Same thing here, 8 votes for PvE, 4 PvP. (next to it 8 alliance and 2 horde)Im still mad about it.
>>586591950>NOOOOOOO YOUR HEALING WILL ONLY BE 90% EFFECTIVE INSTEAD OF 100%!!!!>please don't roll on my cloth gear
I hope blizzard nerfs shamans tomorrow, it would be so fucking funny.
>>586591715They got their 5% aura buffThey literally got what they wantedhttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/the-war-within-hotfixes-october-7/2144182/128You're so mad about both of us being right, I don't understand.
>>586592231Yes I'm sure no other healers will notice your healing targets are missing health in the 10-20 seconds it takes for you to heal them anon
>>586592235I want them to bring back lava burst, just for shits and giggles.
>>586592290You're actually retarded if you think any Resto Druid would position themselves to compete for highest single target HPS against a Priest. Your tranny retoilet mentality doesn't work here. Druids have been the best healers on Retail for the past 6 years though so it makes sense why you would seethe so much.
>>586589705My 3 sons piss everywhere anyway so what's a few more drops?You do have sons r...right?
>>586592534>Druids have been the best healers on Retail for the past 6 yearsThis explains why you think HoTs are viable healing lmaoWelcome to classic, you're in for a rude awakening
>>586589778Elrapertron Badmon
>>586590193Tranny meltie.>you don't listen to us so we're killing ourselvesTypical.
>>586592664Delusional spastic LMAO. You have a retoilet minmaxing mentality but you're a lowly skilless classic Andy, which makes sense why you're overly concerned with your boring class being "top" healer as if it matters at all. Again:>Reminder that the content in this game is easy enough for any retard, including You, to clear it with any class with any group comp
>>586590289Ele being unplayable shit is true vanilla.This is what everyone said they wanted.
>>586592868Have fun being the guild bitch lol
>>586592913>kys for unironically believing you need to "fight for a raid spot" in this game because you're projecting your incredibly low irl self worth
>>586592868I don't give a single shit about healing parses, but if 75% + of your healing is getting sniped in a raid setting why even be healing?
>>586593198This. If raids are just 2 man just bring a shadow priest and itll do more damage and healing than a resto druid in most fights
Well seeing as how everyone and their mother is going rogue, what are some good classes / specs that can still fuck them? Besides warrior
