>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesName Reservations open now for skyborne pack purchasers.The journey begins on November 4previous >>586582469
>>586591161wuthave you been sleeping? you wont use BackstabPoised Ambush + Ghostly Strike + Shank + Ambush just one example of what rogues can do now
Shaman is now the official tranny class, pick it at your own risk
Thoughts?
>>586591675>nowall hybrid classes are trannycoded
Whitemane dokooooo
>>586591675this is the guy that locked down shaman discordhe plays in progress https://www.youtube.com/@JebWoW/featuredhttps://www.twitch.tv/yebber_he didnt even mention what hes mad at exactly what feedback is devs even meant to take from it
im gonna fish
>>586591675what are they even crying aboutthe changes seemed good to me besides imp ghostwolf, which I guess is them not wanting the other specs to have access to it without gimping themselves
every change in every patch notes for the last month has led to some obnoxious hysterical hissyfit. people love spouting that "if you make a game for everybody you make a game for nobody" quote until it impacts them
>>586591575
So, when pleople say shockadin is dead, do they mean its spell power assa rogue tier of shit or do they mean "It's slightly bellow average but I've been on the internet so long I forgot how to formulate opinions without turning every dial to 11"?
>>586591710seems good, holy priest is pretty simple you basically has 3 flex point (6 if you want to skip the armor on crit passive) and the rest is pretty obvious
Anyone rolling a hunter is going to have a nasty surprise when they try to melee weave when they login tomorrow. Why else do you think you got these random buffs?Hunters about to back to the bottom of the barrel where they belong.t. rogue chad
How are warlock bros feeling?
>>586591761No don'tThat's what I'm gonna do
>>586591710The point in martyrdom seems wasted and I think Holy Nova sucks
>>586591793the internet has given these losers the impression people want to hear them cry hysterically about a game that isn't even out yet. it's weird. i think its attention seeking behavior
>>586591760I knew it was some retard wrath enh player that wants dual wield shaman and is trying to skinwalk outrage to sneak in his dogshit playstyle that no 'nillers want
>>586591675Improved Ghost Wolf being moved to row 4 was fucking criminal but come on now. Everything else was a noticeable buff.
>>586591779shut up tranny avatarfag
Threadly shill, ele back on the menu editionJoin <FUN HAVERS> for launchNA PVE>no cliques>only rule is you must have fun>will raid with whatever we got, no sweaty raid comps>ms>os loot>weekend morning raids, more to come later>socials always welcomehttps://discord.gg/XBd4VWnquc
>>586591575>>586591807
where are the new sims?
>>586591675>>586591760lmao
>>586591710looks like what will be standard specbut i'd say maybe pushback resistance instead of mental agility
>>586591675someone make a new shaman discord and this faggot will rope
>>586591921>PvEoh nonononononono
ONE DAY TO GO AND THEY FUCK RESTO SHAMANTHANKS BLIZZARD
>>586591675what a whiny cunt sucks for shaman if this dude is actually the server owner
>>586591715>we'reAn actual tranny lmao! Go outside you pathetic faggot. You haven't played with the new shaman changes yet
>>586591817They mean that the niggerlicious ret+shock spec from the retard sim website no longer sims for more damage than anything except the even zestier survival spec
>alliance cucks rerolling rogue for OP racials and 2 saps>*be me, a horde gigachad*>presses WOTF>breaks your Sap and make me immune to sapHorde ALWAYS win baby, ally sissies can only cope. It's why Ally women prefer horde bvlls.
>>586591928I only have 1 of 5 so I'm good to goon
15 DPM bros? How we feelin
Anybody know where to get that restedxp guide for free? It was linked on that PVP forum before, but now they’re cracking down on it
>>586592057Riptide as a pure HOT isn't that bad but the least they could do it reduce the cooldown so you cast it on a couple of people to benefit your chain healsNow you can literally just put it on the tank, its so boring
PvPbros I'm not feeling so good
>>586591928You should fap at least 5 times per week as prostrate cancer prevention, retardGOD.
Blizzard pls let us make our nelf druids into femsatyrs pls pls
>>586591921>pve>discord servergrooming central
i haven't kept up with all the news, so is ret pally twisting dead now? the new talent just has you hit 3 times and then switch seals to consume them all right? so there's no more of that annoying timing element?
>>586591675Meanwhile RogueCHADS (top dps btw)
>>586591817I honestly have no idea what they mean. I mean first of all there are multiple forms of a shockadin. There is ret shockadin, and there is pvp hybrid healer/spell damage shockadin.Ret shockadin doesn't seem any different to me at all from recent changes other than losing the 10% int talent. Pvp healer spell dps shockadin seems workable still too.
>>586591575>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/XBd4VWnquc<Clover Club> RP-PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/Zn2uWkkpbc<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QgFCzxf<Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordless>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/mVPNFmXp5<Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordlesscan we get this in the OP, threadposter? is there a reason this particular mentally ill threadposter wants to squelch any actual /vg/ players from playing together?
Rogues just shot up from least played class to FOTM
>>586592057>>586592157it's now less mana efficient because we lose 50% of the heal but still pay 60% of the manathe 12 seconds also means it's just a pure tank maintenance hot instead of it being spot healingAlso, no more emergency healing, back to NS as our only instantBoy did they fuck us
>>586592210
>>586592210>>586591675Where do I even find these disc groups? I want to get one for warlock but I don't even know where to look to get the 'official' one.
>>586592126Leveling guides are great on matured serversTheyre absolute dogshit on a fresh where EVERY RETARD IS GOING TO CAMP THE EXACT SAME LEVELING ROUTELiterally standing in a corner of the map and grinding mobs will be faster than your retarded paid leveling guide you braindead zoomer fucktard
so is Druid totally gutted? Or is just catform?
Some of you seem way too insecure about your gender presentation with how often you throw around "tranny" at other normal dudes. Atleast it's a little less pathetic than using racial epithets, I guess.
>>586592169how about having sex instead?
>>586592282><Fourchan Guild> PvP Alliance | Discordlessremove this, literally nobody will join it. someone make a real guild on na pvp alliance
>>586592324go to classic wow discord then you can find them there i think
>>586592210kek
>>586592210yep im thinking we're back
>>586592340Feral is the only competitive spec, both bear and cat
>>586592282>upcoming troon pedo hangoutsno ty
>>586592324you can find them on wow head but here is the list :Druid: https://discord.gg/classicdruidPaladin: https://discord.gg/lightclubclassicMonk: https://discord.gg/ZE8EkPdmuwHunter: https://discord.gg/8TVHxRrMage: https://discord.gg/4svKQAcPaladin: https://discord.gg/dD5HNuMPriest: https://discord.gg/priestclassicRogue: https://discord.gg/hVV88SMShaman: https://discord.gg/wTG4kGAWarlock: https://discord.gg/3fvUDqFFight Club (Warrior): https://discord.gg/PYvKyaK
now im forced to play rogue because it's brokengood job niggrand
>>586592087>can't read a sarcastic joke>doesn't understand the concept of a discord having multiple people in itdid you just want to yell out to the thread that you're brown? why would you do this
>>586592198I WILL groom you to have fun and you cant stop me
>>586592328not an issue on mega servers, just hop on an empty shard and finish every quest lightning speed
>>586591863>all specs were good>destro was the worst>it got buffed>pet health nerf is a bit annoying due to how succubus focused demo is
>>586592340? Cat just got massive buffs
>>586592350eww...
>>586592393Really? I havent been keeping up, but in the last 2 threads, people where seemingly saying Druid is shitter-tier now
>>586592301I mean you probably just don't press the button any more? back to one button CH spam and still being a great healer
>>586591779You could barely decide between Druid and Shaman, so I couldn't care less what you have to say. You aren't a true Shaman, your opinion counts for nothing
With the riptide changes do they expect you to use more lesser healing way or something?
blizzard should bring back lava burst and make it a DPS loss to cast
with Mental Dexterity now giving 150% attack power do I go int over strengh as enhancement?
>>586592348if youre a discord mod, obessed with parsing, have a tranny coloured discord name (animated and paid for), and live on the internet all day you're a tranny mate. No two ways about it. Normal people find trannies both repulsive and hilarious so tranny is an insult against you
>>586592435>empty shard>he doesn't knownot how this system works
>>586592282>discordless aka no troon pedosGuess I'm going Alliance PvP....
>>586592417thanks
>>586592485I think that the plan might have been int > str before anyway but at this point yeah
>>586592487None of those things have anything to do with being transgender.
>>586592453Boomkin lost their only unique utility as the crit buff doesnt stack with the feral cat buff and resto druid got raped pretty hard (increased GCD and increased cast time of their main aoe heal by 3 seconds)Cat is decent DPS and bear tank has the highest threat output in the game (but lowest DPS)
>>586592485considering you'll have 20% increased int and also get 30% of int to spelldmg, yes
>>586592501worked in the stress testevery time you leave a group you get put on an empty shard, use it for your benefit
>>586592457you need to press it for the 25% CH buff
>>586592417 NTA but thanks. Whenever I asked no one provided them to me.
I'm going to level as Sub and garrote shit all day
>>586592282What happened to the Milfguard guild?
>>586592393ngl I do think bear will be a great offtank atleast
>>586592597not sure if it's worth the GCD unless you're just dumping into an active tank
>join a class discord>banner page is AI slopDo rogues really live like this?
>>586592587so hunters have no competition for gearbut ele shamans have to compete against enhance shamans
>>586592662Rogues are known to steal stuff, so that's fine but using AI is not?
Who else rolling a skyborne with pale helf skin and pretending they’re a high elf?
If you don't play Gnome Rogue don't expect any invites
>>586592662calm down barnybee
>>586592709you got me there you cheeky bastard
>>586592640Yeah, easy threat and the option to immediately shift into a DPS spec along with all of the utility of any other druid spec. They are the obvious offtank choice, even more so because raids are smaller so having an extra DPS is much more valuable
>>586592707>so hunters have no competition for gearthis was always going to be the case because hunters want agi and enhance wants str
>>586592662it's like that everywhere, every guild I check has everything vibecoded: website, discord art, addons, etc
>>586592710This but with tanned skin and pretending im a blood elf.
>>586592710Now who would do such a thing?
Play what you want. If your class sucks at 60 they will fix it, if it's op you'll be hit with nerf hammer. Launch patch don't matter at all.
>>586592804luddites taking L after L
>>586592710that's me except I'm not RPing about itI'm glad Skelf has good racials
>>586592417uhh
What the fuck is the "storage rate" of Death Mark that Coupe de Grace is increasing? It increases the portion of damage dealt that is stored?
>>586592760there is still gear with stam, ap, crit and hit that works for bothand its not like 10 agi would make an item non-viable for a shaman
>>586591761NOOO YOU HAVE TO REACH MAX LVL AS FAST AS POSSIBLE REEEEEEEEE
>>586592417But are those for forever? Some have classic in their url
>>586592558>>586592587cant wait to ninja all the casting gear because it gives me more ap than raw strengh
>>586592892Yeah all the class cords are gay as fuck. There is seriously no reason to be in any of these.
>>586592882>play cloth class>leveling normally>get ahead>tons of enemy faction hunters also ahead>they one shot you with sniper shot every time they see you>can't level near them>they are everywherecan't wait!
>>586592951Go into a dungeon as a healer and they wont say a thing.
>>586592882damn... I wish I had this much faith in blizzard still..
>>586592707Classes don’t compete for gear with themselves.
>>586592981why are you flagging yourself for pvp while leveling?
>>586592892sryhttps://discord.gg/8v43tgp8sthis is the one for straight ppl
>>586591894Where would you put those two points?
>>586592981Me neither. I love world pvp, bring it on.
>>586593018great post xister
>play on a pvp server>complain about pvp
hold onthere are people here that actually roll on a pvp server?
What do I start with, Priest or Mage? I’m also playing Rogue but I can level that comfortably whenever.
So, are class discords actually worth ever visiting? I've never really been a sweatlord but I do try and minmax where I can so I don't feel like I'm going to perform too shit. But I've still never felt the need to go to one, I don't get the point.
>>586591760>he didnt even mention what hes mad at exactly what feedback is devs even meant to take from itHe wants to be a mage with heals. That's his "class fantasy", to replace a real DPS like IRL where he wants to replace a real woman.
PvErs saying you can just flag yourself for PvP anytime if you want to PvP is the biggest larp of all. NOBODY on PvE servers is ever flagged for PvP and everybody on PvE servers are cowards who will not engage if they see you flagged. It is pure cope to try and deceive and groom new players who think they aren't completely giving up a large portion of the gameplay
>>586593119yea there are non-bitchfaggots here, shocking
I really want to kill gnomes but I don't want to play horde. Blizzard pls fix?
>>586593093I only complain about fucked Forever pvp because they just shit all over it
>PVE>Horde>NAIt's gonna be a cozy time.
You may remember me from a thread yesterday, musing that it is extremely difficult coming up with nine RP-friendly names, that each fit the class and race, which also manage to say "I'm a huge sissy slut please breed me", without also being too overtly sexual to get reported, or too subtle and not noticeable.Well I did it, I spent hours researching and planning, but I came up with all 10 characters (9 classes and a bank alt).I am officially READY for Forever.
>>586593128Mage if you want a little better gold making ability and priest if you want to be more desirable for groups
>>586593184>I really want to kill gnomesBrown.
>>586593226Dead server in 3 months
>entire team barges into the enemy flagroom>this guy saps four of you>blinds a fifth>instantly kills three with his Garrote x Mark of Death>Shadowsteps to the healer and kills them in one crit ambush>Cloak of Shadows all your spells>CC's your FC for seventeen workdaysNo place to run. No place to hide. He is coming.
>>586593173Nobody flags themselves for PvP because PvPers don't roll on PvE cause they only want to gank lowbies not duel their level who flagged themselves
>>586592417I'm on the warrior discord and I've never seen so many little bitches whining about BUFFSWhy is this community so immature & unable to handle any fucking changes
>>586593173>thisFriends of mine conviced me to play on a PvE server for the whole of legionEven with the whole warmode shit, the only people you'll ever see tagged in the open worldare the ones who got tricked into it and obvious traps.
>>586593145Not really, you have some link to guide and info but the discussions are mostly pointless.So best usecase is to join, check the "guide" sections and some pinned comment and don't interact futher.But most of that info will be on wowhead or icyvein anyways
>resto druid>nerfed>resto shaman>nerfedshould I just roll heal paladin at this point? we all know palas are blizzards golden boys, they will make them good right?
>>586593226See you there anon
>>586593278projection
Some people just fear the gnomepremacy
>>586593294SOMEBODY STOP HIM
>>586593145Retail class discords are never worth visiting and i can't imagine why classic discords would be any different.
ngl the shaman discord being such total faggots is making me want to go druid....
Wtf they buffed everything to funserver values?!!!
Are there goon channels in the class discords?
>>586593315riptide wasn't nerfed they just made its purpose more clear to retardsyou only precast it during downtime so your chain heals can heal for more, they even made the mana cost almost non existent
>>586593339Gnomes in White European culture are seen as helpful forest spirits. Only browns see them as horrifying monsters
>>586593184Gnomes are based.
ADD RDF TELEPORT TO THE GAME I'M NOT WALKING TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD FOR 2 HOURS
>>586593315no healer is nerfed to the point where they won't be automatically invited into pugs. let alone if you join a guild. why are you fags so histrionic and overly concerned about parsing as a fucking healer lol
i might join a dad guild and just pretend im a terrible father in guild chatdo things like randomly shout at my imaginary kids to get back in the raid cage when in discord during guild raids
>>586593381kill yourself
>>586593315Priest is the safe choice if you want to heal, forever will have so may enh/ret/feral
Cant wait for the horde of rogues applying to my dungeon listing as prot war.They never learn.
>>586593294double sap is actually stupid. makes it worth to just have rogues going around sapping.
>>586593257Based sissy kingShame RP servers are going to be dead in 3-6 months.
might go druid
>>586593428Wrong. Gnomes are mischievous and often malicious.
Will damage boosts across the board not make PvP a bit fucked? Will everyone be one shotting eachother?
>Be Priest>If Disc sucks, Holy is good>If Holy sucks, Disc is goodWe literally can’t lose. The house always wins.
>>586593545Good kittyMake sure to innervate me
i havent kept up with forever news at all, but from what i've read online, is rp pvp going to be the most populated server? also how does that work? i thought they got rid of realms and now it's all 1 megaserver or something
>>586593413bro we lost our only instant heal without cooldownit also heals fuckall now and exists solely as CH buff>>586593459it's not about parsing, it's about fun. taking away gift and nerfing riptide into oblivion fucking sucks, especially 1 day before launch
>>586593464
I just can't fucking do it man. The retail team just hates shamans so much for some reason I'm a 20 year shaman main and I can't go through this again. I know firsthand how much blizzard hates shamans ever being good, so I've decided to reroll what class should I pick?
>>586593173yes and if PvP chads had a setting that would only flag them if they were 20 levels above or outnumbering the enemy faction 3 to 1 they would all enable it
>>586593575Only in Spanish, Brown European folklore.
>>586593428Gnomes are kind anf helpful is the post-disney version of fae in generalThey were tricksters and could go from slight annoyance to legitimate threat to your family if you didn't play along with the little shits
>>586593257EU, US?Faction?My Rogue needs a ballwasher
>>586592210fucking lmaorogueGODS clowning on the trannies
>>586593612riptide always had a cooldown retard and HoTs always healed fuck all, it only ever existed to make your burst aoe healing higher when there was nothing else worth casting
>>586593494Priest is always the safe choice, which is why most classic healer players have rolled it multiple times already. Not gonna play priest AGAIN for the fourth time. But apparently blizz does not like spicy things so every healer has to be bland as shit
>>586593590Zoomers were bored during the level 30 tournament so now we get burst PvP until people complain that the burst is too high and then dampening classes like Priest and Druid get buffed again
>>586593529>RP servers are going to be dead in 3-6 months.This is what makes me afraid of going RP-PVE, if only 3-5% of people go there it's going to be fucked further down the line. Leveling dungeons will take hours to queue for, you won't easily find help for elite quests, levelling zones will be dead, the AH will be half empty.
>>586593381rope mihoyotranny
>be friendly and polite in dungeons and elite quests >make friends with other friendly people>add them and invite them to more dungeons >join their private friendly guild of just normal people who like World of Warcraft>never worry about 'parses' or 'meta' or fighting for a raid spot'This happens everytime I play WoW, are you guys just super antisocial or rude!?
>>586593680Gnomes were always the good ones, why do you think garden gnomes are a thing?
Why do pvefags have so many excuses for not rolling pvp?
What do we think of the balans changes?
>>586593698The cd was doubled and emergency heals have always been a problem for shamans in classic, with no more instant healing on riptide this is once again a problem that is EXCLUSIVE to shamans.
>>586591863destro feels a lil boring with incinerate not doing anything special
>>586593820I like them except the druid changes. I don't understand removing the GCD reducing talent AND making wild growth next to useless outside of dungeons
>>586593809It's not fun. The fantasy of "super epic open world battles between factions" doesn't exist.If I ever want to PvP I'll just queue for a battleground.
>>586593612if your fun relies on your class being just as good as priest in every identical situation then you're a homosexual and you don't actually know how to have fun. half of the fun from druid raiding comes from the utility it brings, not just raw healing numbers. if you just want to afk in stormwind and raid log then just play priest because a hybrid class would be totally lost on you anyway.
>>586593730you yourself have already the wrong mindset for rp serversif getting to level 20 doesnt take you 3 months of playing then what the fuck are you even doing there
>>586593809still not joing your fag server
>>586593809I want to have access to all races on the same screen
the thing is with druid I can try and solo solo stuff & stealth runs at 60 (and while leveling), while you can't do any of that with shamanI think I'd like healing as shaman better in a raid proly (just press riptide on the tank & chain heal), and would definitely like enh more than feral if I get to play dps though. Balance is my favorite spec out of all of them tho...
Man, that shaman change is rough. I get why, because otherwise every spec would be required to put seven points into enhancement, but putting it down so deep on a row with a lot of mandatory talents fucking sucks. And every shaman spec was going to put 5 into enhancement anyway.
>>586593809Anyone who ever played on a PvP server knows how absolutely dogshit they are. Literally the worst way to play the game.
>>586593689Sorry, not interested in smelly 4channel nerds.
>>586593849>riptide>emergency healit was like 500 healing. lesser healing wave heals double that in the same amount of time as riptide's GCD is the same as lesser healing waves casting time and lesser healing wave heals like twice as much.
i can't wait to tank dungeons and kill orcs and have tons of gay e-sex with cute femboys playing cute slutty elves and gnome and humans
>>586592185Pregnant.
>>586593889if it "doesn't exist" why do you actively avoid rolling pvp because you're scared of getting ganked in the open world? i bet your fat little heart gets palpitations thinking about unplanned outdoor combat
>>586593984Understandable, have a nice day
>>586593787No they're not, they're just as capicious and vindictive as any other faePretty much every story that includes gnomes is about how they're helpfull untill you do something that randomly ticks them off and suddently, they literally have nothing better to do than to fuck with you
>>586594043wow u reed rly gud
why is this retarded tranny avatarfag babbling about random shit
>>586594081lonely i guess
>>586593450This is why I just won't do these dungeons until I can solo them
>>586593820They boxed themselves into a corner and bloated the numbers to get out of itWho knows how it turns out but it's going to fuck over PvP very hard unless they do some weird aura PvP damage reduction
>>586594025the straightest prot paladin player
so many posters in /wowfg/ have absolutely no idea how things in classic actually work. Are most of you from retail or something? even the SoD threads weren't this retarded
>>586593809because they're giga faggots
Well seeing as how everyone and their mother will be playing a rogue, what are some good classes / specs that can still fuck them? Besides warrior
>>586594136who cares classic is as dead as the people who originally made it
>>586594136vagueposting king
>>586594081he's a gachaslop tourist, most likely a troonwon't get a trip because we would all filter it
>>586594072if it doesn't exist then you would roll pvp because it would essentially be the same thing as pve at that point. but you're an unironic faggot, you know world pvp is real and you don't want anything to do with it, which is why you pick pve. don't be disingenuous now.
>>586594136I played classic for a couple weeks on release, so what was that 2019? Since then I haven't played wow and only came back in the beta
my goal is to level all classes to 60, max out all professions and reputations and explore every zone fully :3raiding and pvp are side content, MAYBE I will run a few dungeons
>>586594136I see the complete opposite of classicfags having no clue how anything in retail works.
how do you make money in classic
>>586594129i play warrior almost exclusively desu
>>586594191You know exactly what he's referring to.
>>586593610Each mode has its own megaserver, so if you play on normal or PvP etc. that's still different servers, technically.
>>586591675>the up-until-now barny faction exclusive class has a lot of troonssurprises absolutely no one who put up with WoW community for the last 15 years or so
>>586593809They want to play their singleplayer game alone, together
>>586594260thread is moving fast so I really don't
>>586593381join my discord and we'll duo shaman-druid
>>586594243kill shitloot shitsell shit
>>586594243selling summons, ports, aoe farming trash, boosting in dungeons and raids, enchanting bots
>>586594136The vibe i get is these threads get a lot of retail shitposters and a bunch of clueless retarded faggot olympus asmongold fanboys who haven't played in ages.
>>586594226Getting everything to 60 should unlock a hidden class that lets you level to infinity and choose all abilities from any class you want.
female human magepvpsolo
>>586594185>orcs and humans>paladin, hunter, magepaladin will be best for farming
>>586593809Why should we play PvP? Honestly, we are given no arguments or anything, just "hurr durr dont roll PvE" without any followup from you.
>>586593672Wrong. In central Europe we also believe Gnomes are sneaky and dangerous. You are exposed as an Amerimutt.
>>586594243I was planning on doing RFD stealth runs with ench/herb to dis items for the speed enchant but now that they nerfed it I'm not sure...
>>586594243Swipe
>human>female>paladinReady to game!
>the pvpschizo is again at it and will spend all day fighting against imaginery pvefagsAt least it's not getting boring during wait time
>>586594243comfy jump runs for a few hours. it's even better now because alliance is able to easily 2 man it instead of 3 man it too like horde always could
>>586594043Are you retarded on purpose, Anon?He clearly meant to say that without those "epic" battles, PvP is boring, but ganking and other negative shenanigans are still there, so PvP is a bad experience for him.No need to menstruate over other peoples choices.
>>586593315hmm we already have these spells renew and rejuv which suck what if shaman spends 31 talent points for that but worse
>>586594262oh i see, so rppvp players and normal pvp players will never see eachother?
>no insta ghost wolf as ele anymoreits unironically over for ele pvp isn't it...
Guarantee blizzard nerfs all solo instance AOE farming and stealth runs.
>Defensive Stance: Threat bonus increased from 30% to 80%.>defiance is only a 20% buff on topthe fat retard is going to rush to hotfix this so fucking fast when he sees people playing fury prot again
I planned to main rogue a month ago already and now they have buffed it so I imagine fotm players will flock to it... But I guess they buffed most classes, and people will probably just play what they desire to play.
>>586594294This. If I could I would do everything in this game solo.
>>586594412Jump runs will be severely nerfed, you're retarded if you think the fun police won't nerf any form of goldmaking.They need to sell you the token after 6 months after all
Did humans get the 2% crit racial back? Or is it still nerfed horde-dev slop?
>3 of my friends are wow newfags >They all want to play PvP Chance we make it to 60 as a group is naught
nvm had another mood swing and I want to play shaman again
>>586594489guaranteed there will be loads of rogue players who are in for a rude awakening when they get stomped in BGs and don't get invited to raids lol
>>586594418GANKING IS PART OF THE "EPIC" BATTLES YOU SPASTIC. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY OCCUR?
>>586594467I'm pretty sure that's how it's gonna work, could be wrong though, but it makes sense to at least separate people who are playing different modes. >>586594476That will 100% be the case even if Forever is a runaway success and brings in a lot of money for them.
>>586594480not sure what the interaction is here, is it additive or multiplicative?if it's additive then yeah fury prot is back I guess good job killing salv I understand it's because they don't want so many mandatory paladins but whatever
>>586594568reddit will fix that
>>586594489>fotm>rogue>on a fresh
>>586594365Me, as an ex-PvPChad, can whole heartedly say that there is in face no reason to roll on a PvP realm. Any positive stories or videos you might see are just bait thrown out by the regular PvP psycho players thats just prey on newcomers so they can quite literally corpse camp them until they log out. I've seen people have competitions where they try to get the most kills on the same person they can. Even if you are a sicko like that yourself you will still get camped ad nauseum until you log to a different character and try your luck thereThere are far better games to get your pvp rocks off
>>586594558are you... literally me?
>>586594558You some cock to fix those moodswings
>>586594480Ain't no retard going to be tanking as dual wield prot when shields give you so much rage.
>>586594558Shaman is lame don’t do it bro
>>586594589>>586593809grim, PvE lives rent free in these faggots head
>>586594589uhh epicly?
>>586594642rage isn't an issue when you're getting hit by a raid boss
>>586594243I just killed princess/rotgrip over and over while mining/herbing anything along the way in marathen I leeched GDKP runs
>>586594489I'm playing rogue as the second character i'll level with the wagies of the friend groupI'll be back with free skill points on the legacy tracks, lw BoE and enough cash to pay for dagger progression
>>586594558I mean Forever looks melee dominated so even if all shaman specs suck melee DPS will still worship you for windfury totem so its probably a safe choice at this point. Plus elemental looks a lot more fun than balance does right now
>>586591675>resto shaman has no point to pick riptide at all>enhance is a meme except le ebin oneshot fantasy on an afk priest>elemental still dogshitThey got a right to be upset but holy shit that's pathetic. Our Ally guild has 3 shamans and I'm actually afraid now. I refuse to raid without windfury
>>586594558a gorgeous and valid real woman like yourself should stay away from such a vile tranny infested class
>>586594535i don't see how they'd do that besides just removing the thorium veins entirely. even 1 vein per run will be better than trying to farm them in the open world on a pvp server
Qrd on WoW Forever apparently coming to Xbox? All I know is that Xbox posted something then deleted it.
>>586591779It's a massive nothing burger tooOh no, now you get a broken indoor travel form at lv25 and worst case scenario you will max out flurry or maelstrom weapon talent 3 levels later down the lineTHE CLASS IS DEADRiptide change is a nothingburger too
>>586594489I'm rolling rogue just to inflate numbers and take up other peoples spots, i don't even like the class
Saw a Sodapoppin short and changed my mind again, definitely going Druid the PvP is just too good and is way more kino than Shaman
>>586594395god sis I wiiiiiiishI just can't with these hd modelsso I'm waiting for elf paladings
>>586594609Yeah I know it's always been a popular class, but the census for the beta showed then as mid-low in popularity, even before the buff of course. Frankly that surprised me. Rouge was my first main back in vanilla/TBC but I opted for other classes on private servers and in classic so I could actually get a raid spot. This time I'd like to say I don't really care as much, will just do soft res pugs for gear if I need to, and spend the rest of my time PvPing.
>>586594547Nope 1% only
>>586594783Let me guess, reddit census?
>>586594769ngl skinwalking as me just means you care enough about me to save the pictures I use, and then post pretending to be meI already had a skinwalker in the ffxiv threads that would pretend to be me
>>586594589someone ganks a lowbie until someone ganks the ganker and then everyone gets on with their daywow so epic
>>586594769Druid is a gay class for trannies that will be overplayed because of the new trannoid race can be it and has retail style forms
>>586593649mageroguepaladin
>the avatroon is from /ffxiv/kek of course
what to we think about this warrior guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acmRD_IZKJQhe approved or nah
>>586594871kill yourself tranny
Why did druids get the gay eclipse mechanic but no starsurge or starfall? Hell, their only AOE ability actually got nerfed from original classic...
>>586591675100% this is one of those faggots who wants dw and lava lash in classic for some reason.
>>586594837>redditNever heard of it
>>586594694My apologies i didn't realize you were more retarded than i thought. Allow me to elaborate. Ain't no retard going to tank as dual wield prot and sacrifice so much damage reduction when shields give so much rage.I can predict the future and i already know the next retarded thing you're going to say so allow me to elaborate even further.Ain't no retard going to tank as dual wield prot and sacrifice so much damage reduction when shields give so much rage and prot actually does good damage now.
>>586594902>retail style formsyou wish
>>586594312I tried selling ports/water in classic, but the south american gold sellers would threaten to kill me
>>586594754That's all we know as well. It's likely coming at some point but that post said November and I really don't see that being the case. They would have already said something about it. A shadowdrop would be retarded
>>586593783This is <fun havers>
>>586593783>are you guys just super antisocial or rude!?where do you think are?
>>586594730Elemental got massive buffs thoughLiterally the go to raid shaman dps spec right nowEnhance will level a lot betterRiptide still great
>>586594986clueless
>>586593809I don't find it to be a fulfilling experience
>>586595000thats against ToS o algo
>>586594774>I just can’t with these hd models I’m going sd models all the way, text can carry the rest of it sis…>>586594769Druid and shaman have to be the gayest classes ever fofo
>>586593730Chat is this true?t. still unsure on the ruleset to go with, 1.5 days away from launch
>>586594243when 2019 classic came out i got a warden staff drop in my first sunken temple run and sold it for 600g so i'll just get lucky like that again
>>586594769what are you smokingdruid pvp is just playing keepaway with roots and your two dots and thats it
>>586594986anon warriors in classic don't use a shield in most fights and have infinite rageforever warriors will also have infinite rage while tanking so the +5 rage while being hit doesn't matterdamage reduction doesn't matter except for very specific fights, threat matters
>>586595051You sayin sis but you a bald ah unc xD
>>586594808That’s so retarded I don’t even know what to say
Just realized I have 2 more sleeps until Forever not 1....It's so fucking over...
>>586595105>damage reduction doesn't matter except for very specific fights, threat mattersBold statement when you have seen 0% of the raid content
>>586595150wait hwat
>>586595051>I’m going sd models all the wayit's an option but I dunno, it kinda clashes with the rest
>>5865951503 more sleeps. This shit will not be functional on the first day.
>>586595150comfy morning leveling on the 5th
>>586595156can only go off of past fights not whatever bullshit you're making up in your head
>>586595150>>586595175EU bwo...
>>586595150It's three sleepies yeah
>>586595150Let's be real the game won't be in a playable state til friday.
>>586594996That goes hard compared to the retail elf forms.
>>586595197And in SoD it was the opposite you retard, you had to put on a shield.
Fellow wagies, hold the line. Just one or two more shifts for Mr. Goldberg and we shall have our precious PTO. Semper Fry.
>>586595246Amen brother.
>>586594530so go play retail then you fucking moron
paladin is the most trans coded class, right?
>>586595183rest of the game is sd, why not the faces of the characters?
two more sleeps for me, though in three sleeps I have a job interview and I still have to prepareso it's more like four sleeps...
3 more sleepies0 more poopies9 more fappiesuntil forever
>>586595276Druid by far and then Warlock as a distant second
>>586595275But I don't like retail story bits. You make a character and just go to the same island starting location. That's really bad. And leveling is way too fast.
>resto droos get their entire wotlk toolkit in classic>they get wild growth on a 2.5s cast and still somehow make it a bad thing>they get a non-consuming swiftmend on a 15s cast and still make it a bad thing>they still heal through dot rot like no other>they still get huge healing touch and emergency deranked healing touch which makes them as competitive as any other raid-wise>they get regular rez AND battle rez now>no other class gets theit wotlk kit or otherwise has it reversed>they still fall to low effort bait about how they won't get picked in raids and continue to cry about how gutted and in need of buffs they are
>>586595315>warlockyou're forgetting rogue anon
Seeing how LGBT friendly the shaman discord was made me mood swing again...I just can't decideDruid or shaman just feel right for a woman like me
Will javel be playing forever?
>>586595280it feels like I am gimping myselfalso when they do drop elves I will need to pay for a race change
>>586595186First day is when you level fishing, get flight paths and some exp for zone discovery. I plan to go engi/mining for pvp but might have to postpone mining for a long ass time because fuck that.
Should I play WoWF and give my hard earned cash to WOKE ASS Bitchzzard? Or should I play WoW (be it Classic or Classic+ or whatever) on a COMFY and BASED private server? Serious and unironic answers only.
>>586595276we have a avatroon in this very thread who is into druid and shaman
>>586595365plapping this anon's bussy
>>586595276Paladin is the anti-troon class.
>>586595379>enh with the biggest overall buff>better shut down the shaman discord
>>586595379>shaman get the single biggest buff of all the classes>shut down their discord server in protest
>>586595379i wish everyone that posts ai slop sims dies irl
>>586595379>elemental still below smite priestlmaoLMAOR O F L M A O
are we rolling on normal pvp or rp pvp?
>>586595445i think you should just kill yourself
>>586595365I'm gonna cockslap your balls before railing you
>>586595365ywnbaw
>>586595379how is pvp supposed to work if people are doing that much dmg already
>>586592282Add<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26Xto that list.
>>586591575ele bros we eatin good. 30% extra lighting boom!
What's with the Enhancement Shaman? It's like 200iq int stacking build now?
>>586595506devs clearly have no idea what they're doing with elemaybe they'll fix it later who knows
>>586595379This can't be the new patch, how did Rogue not change at all
>>586591779>what are they even crying aboutDon't know about ele and resto, but enhance is now a 1h+shield spellpower spec. Moving imp GW means spending 2 additional points for zero benefit. They still haven't fixed that 4/5 points in MSW does literally nothing.
>>586593339but you are the one projecting lmao
>>586595502is she good now?
>>586592210https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHzBNSYtuFwPARTY ROGUES IN THE HOUSE TONIGHTEVERYBODY ENERGY CAPPED
>>586595516RP PvP bro
>>586595516>roll PVE>get to 60 way faster>get to gearing faster>shit on PVP babies in BGsyou already know
>>586595502>rogues finally get a massive rework>they are even worse now>start celebrating and dancing
>>586595379kek, the nillasissies really turned their spec back into 2 buttons just for a 4.7% DPS increase that's still dead last
>>586595505shut up you gay retarded troon, you had a decade to make good games with all the billions you got from blackrock and dei bullshit funding and all you did was kill every old great franchiseyou're getting replace by ai, deal with it, because even if you stopped it here china and elsewhere will keep advancing ai and then they'll rape your ass for being troon freaks instead
>>586595552you're going to have thousands more hp than you used to because of new itemization and welfare epics
>>586595518lmao no uFAGGOT
>>586595582>rogue
>>586595582it's not, it also doesn't even do a correct rotation, never trust ai slop sims
>>586595573yeah should be some interesting gearing decisions
>>586595573>What's with the Enhancement Shaman? It's like 200iq int stacking build now?Yes. 1h+shield, stack int, flametongue weapon. Basically a melee elemental.
Guys please help me decide on playing Rogue or Druid. I honestly want to play rogue, cause I dig the class identity of being a scumbag in combat. I like stealth, I like being able to stun and I like the mind game aspect.But Druid has the flexibility in groups which is gonna be huge in leveling and stance dancing and also stealth. Like I can decide if I should go for utility for Druid, or being a scumbag and having fun as Rogue.HEÆÅ
>>586595573just an extra 50% attack power via int compared to yesterday. No biggie. Me and my rogue buddy eatin good
>>586595474>>586595502>>586595506is this general this mentally retarded to be taking this shitty vibe coded shit that pooorly copies the actually only good sim site ? just because it shows up first in google search somehow >>586595632its not accurate you retard i dont care about ai if its accurate
>>586595632*yawn*try another slur, it might actually make you look smarter
>>586594996perhaps drustvar being too cool is why they had to go so hard on the homosexuality in later expacs
>>586595445>or Classic+why would someone lgbtq2ia be against woke?1/10 rewrite this bait
>>586595379>AI slop sim>without knowledge of gear
>>586595030Yes you are.>>586595105Oh look some giga retard who literally doesn't even understand how rage works in classic vs forever.I'm too tired for this shit. If your IQ is less than 3 digits you need to stop talking about my class.
>>586595692whats the point of a 1h + shield in pve
>>586595670These sims are funny though as everyone will get baited into playing SV weave because it's the "top". Same thing happened in SoD when weaving was top DPS too.
>>586595632Based.
>>586595707you really showed them by posting the actually correct sims
Hope you like getting randomly sniper shot crit from 51 yards away for your entire fucking health bar
>>586595757rockbiter "tanking"
https://youtu.be/L_1OGDEcnaY?t=20m42sResto shaman is at worst 5% worse now but the rotation got 100% more braindead and much less decision making involved
>>586595760It will be funny seeing survival hunters ninja both melee and ranged BiS weapons so they can pretend like they are doing more damage
>>586595707>its not accurate you retard i dont care about ai if its accurateeither a falseflag or you're retarded then because you're being a little crybaby and dragging your feet about ai instead of just ignoring it when it's shit and letting it get better like it inevitably willstop being a troon for two seconds and look at how far it's gotten in like 5 years>>586595723>*yawn*>expects me to accept that they aren't a troon when they type exactly like a cringe troon millennial
Thoughts on priests of the shadow
>>586595502she looks like a male actor dont remember his name
Penance damage buff when?
>>586595846try again! with more gusto!
>>586595745It's not bait, nigga. I am for real, even if I expressed myself all bombastically. I mean, there are servers out there that are Classic Era but with a little something extra. That's what I meant.
>>586595816why does every ability have different crit chance?
>>586595707>if the sim was more accurate ele would gain 30% damage and be a good spec
>>586595816>Sniper Shot into immediate Arcane Shot>5k damageI'm thinking kino
>>586595816*roots you and sits in your dead zone and spams moonfire at you*heh, nothing personelle kid
>>586595816How is sniper any different from aimed? Is it just longer range?>t. non hunter
>>586595797>1h+shieldRetard>>586595573Yes, but always have a slow 2h weapon.Mucb better for your stormstrikes
>>586595723You will never be a woman.
>>586595379Enhancement shaman GODS this just decided it. Was thinking of shaman first or something else but now definitely first yeah
>>586595186>>586595246copeaggrend has given his personal guaranteemegaserver will fix everythingthey have full access to azure infrastructure
>>586595893it's a random sample
>>586595792if they had their way we'd have no ai and then china would just unironically swarm us with humanoid robots 50 years from now while browns are busy setting liberal cities on fireand i want my robot wife so i can laugh at foids
>>586595379>elementalHahahahahahahah
>>586596021stress test was ok after some time and it was f2pso who knows
>>586596040sims are bullshit. ele gonna be nuking
>>586595971more range more damage and buffs range of your other shots. its much better
>when you already had your class locked in and it gets buffed right before launch
>>586595976>Yes, but always have a slow 2h weapondo we know if speeds are normalized or not yet? seems like an obvious retail change to make
>>586595989Correct, I am a man! Thanks!
>>586596053I'd imagine that this time they're expecting it to be popular and prepared for that, as opposed to the initial run of classic, but there would probably be a big queue despite that to maintain server stability, I don't understand how the server architecture works
>>586595697>>586595697>>586595697HELP HELP
>>586595632ywnbw
>player damage is higher than it was in vanilla so they increased mob health at higher levels>meanwhile player health was not increasedPVP is going to be a shitshow of instagibs and they will add resilience into the game
>>586595816what kinda gear is this withand on what% armorthose arcane crits are NUTS
>>586595697That was me a week ago and I decided on rolling Rogue big part due to because Rogue will be more chill to play with a controller when I want to lay in bed.But also because their druid changes haven't inspired confidence.
>>586596147set yourself on fire
>>586596081Only thing ele will be nuking is your cortisol if you play it and tickle everything with your 500 damage chain lightning
>>586596129Ok fair. But you still a fag.
>>586596140I think you'll be able to login but it's gonna be laggy, I'll probably go hard with grinding monsters and try to get ahead atleast in the starting zone
>>586595971sniper has double the cast time and 10y longer rangeits of very limited use in pvp, getting the 3sec aimed shot off was hard enough in most casessniper > multi > arcane gonna absolutely delete people though its gonna be fun
>>586595751there is no world where prot has more threat than fury and nothing stops you from equipping a shield if there is a tankbuster added to bossesif your tank does not die it is always better to have more threat than additional survivability
>>586596156if they don't at least try and balance pvp it's going to be a shit game with zero longevity
>>586596156most gear is perfectly statted now you'll have 3k+ extra health from gear alone since the stat budget won't be wasted on useless shit
>>586595340I think if they put Wild Growth on a 1.5 second cast like how it is on Retail then nobody would complain. I do think instant cast was crazy and needed a nerf. But it seems like the class team got whacked and went way overboard because what the fuck do you mean 3 second cast after originally making it instant? I don't think it's unplayable by any means and at the end of the day it's a vast improvement over the WOTLK version which is a massive 6 second cast. People are just generally whiny bitches, if they're not the best class and spec for their role then they're going to whine.
>>586596202no, but you
>>586596146imo if rogue is op everyone will hop on it and it'll get nerfed, but they can't just remove the base utility the druids forms have and stuff right?idk t. retard that is going tauren shaman and doesn't know shit about shit
>>586596140Queues are generally there because they don't have enough login servers to handle everyone logging in at once since those servers are under fuck all load once everyone gets in. I would expect there to be a queue to get in but it will probably clear out in an hour, as long as people actually get in to play and don't need to login multiple times
>>586595632Holy based departement hello???
>>586595971it is something the retarded devs decided to force in when aimed shot already was pretty much the same fucking skill with the old 3s cast time
Which class is for degenerate gamblers?
>>586596169Fully debuffed boss so they have like 500 armor but arcane shot does arcane damage anyways and it just got buffed. It's scaling off of mortal shots and lone wolf in forever
>need to play orc to not get gaped by unlimited rogue rape train stuns>need to play skelve to not be an ugly retarded niggerhelp me...
>>586596291>sit on top of the AV towers sniping anyone who gets too closeits gonna be kino
>>586596404Enhancement and Ret
>>586596404Enh Shaman
>>586596039ywnbw
>>586596404Elemental Shaman because it’s a gamble if you won’t get kicked from groups (you will)
>>5865964042h enhancement, obviusly
>>586596382like can you fucking imagine if the hippies unironically got everyone in the US or the west to just like stop using fossil fuels completely all the way back then?china and russia would be tag teaming us right now
>>586595340DID THEY PUT TREE FORM OF ANY KIND IN FOREVER? EVEN COSMETICALLY? THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION. GIVE ME THE TREE
>>586596291>freezing trap some guy>sniper into arcane or maybe aimedcan't wait unironically
No please.Follow the herdShaman is bad
Every class and race should get their own opening song
>>586592104Wotf does not break sap
>>586596291>its of very limited use in pvpYou still want to press it when everything else is on cooldown because it doesn't interrupt your auto shots. You're not losing anything if you end up canceling it.
>>586596404Enhancment Shaman entire gaming is built around rolling for crits while having 20% chance at bestIf you crit you godIf you lose the coinflip you lol
>>586595340>dot rot>classic wowwow, two fights 2 years into wow forever when almost nobody will be playingim so excited
>>586596548>pick female nelf druid>intro song is some weird wet slapping and orc grunts and my toon seems to be offscreen somewhere?
>>586595816The fact that they buff damage in classic where the damage scaling is already one of the biggest problems in PvP before the game is even out is insane. I hope they all a 20% PvP damage reduction or it's just going to be oneshots all around before the second raid is out
retailbaby here, if I roll paladin can i actually tank or is prot not a real thing in classic/forever.
>>586596430>>586596442>>586596454>>586596471>>586596617They should've changed it up for Forever and made it mage or something.
>>586596487>imagine if the hippies unironically got everyone in the US or the west to just like stop using fossil fuels completelyIt's happening right now tho and the price of electricity just keeps rising
>>586596487would be based.
>>586596634hordecuckolds are so weird
>>586596639paladins will be good tanks. arguably better than warriors since you come with better utility
>>586596323yung blud thinks he playing era lmaaooooo
>>586596291>NE Hunters will be able to shadowmeld at a vantage point and snipe one-shot people when they engage mobs
>>586596639you will piss on the floor and press a button once every 6 seconds also drink between every pull but it can tank yes
>>586596668They did.You now stack STR+INT and mix more shocks and lighting bolts
HUNTERS FUCKING WONROGUES ARE FUCKING GARBAGE
>>586595743wow got taken over by troons as a result of that made up cosby suite incident (even fucking commiefornia gov confirmed it was fake, that's how little evidence there was)shadowlands and dragonflight were the results
>>586596674You need to pay the ai tax, this is your future employer, replacement, and overlord. Don't piss off Roko's Basilisk, or get refugeed in the future.
>>586592104>hordecuck doesn't even play the game pottery
>>586596801rogues aren't updated
Warriors rule this general!
>>586596639all the tanks seems pretty good right now for dungeons. not sure about raids but it's classic so raids are easy loot pinatas
>>586596803>incidentmeant controversy, but whatever, you get my point
>>586596685>it would be based if i made the worst decision and then acted smug and morally superior about it even as the very same decision wipes us outok troon
>>586596801YASSSSS SIS WE ARE ALL ROLLING SURVI HUNTER!!!!
>>586596716t. naxx was so hard slop content viewer on youtube
>>586596801>only shows weave rotations for huntersalmost nobody will be pulling these numbers btw, hit "show all playstyles" if you want a more realistic sim of where hunters rank (its behind demonology, enhance and feral at best and within 1 dps of retribution)
If you're a Neet read this: Go to sleep right now, it will set you up for a good launch. Keep sleeping at this time and you'll wake up right as it's about to launch.
>>586596626wow be such a negative nancy? there's dot rot and consistent aoe damage in literally every raid upon release.
>>586596921they're by far the best even if you weave badly
>>586596932I have to go vote first
Reminder: The only returning encounter is Onyxia and even she might be updated/different.
>>586595743what the other anon said, the californian government literally extorted blizzard mafia style with a lawsuit that had completely fabricated sexual harassment and then dropped the lawsuit after blizzard did what they wantedit's actually pretty similar to fallout 76 where the only good parts are everything that feels similar to the old 3d fallout games while the actual current devs are completely retarded, talentless, discord posting troons who leave major bugs in the game for years
>>586596803>WoW didn't have black character customization and proper gay characters until Shadowlands (2020)honestly impressive they managed to hold out so long
>>586596932it's almost 7am and i woke up at 10pm last night so i can't sleep now
>>586596932i just woke up tho
>>586597028didn't they say all vanilla raids would be returned plus new ones?
>>586596592in most cases you want to be constantly repositioning, not root yourself for 4 seconds to do a 10% stronger aimed shotbut ye its gonna feel REAL NICE when you do get to press it and some clothie gets reduced to atoms
>>586596993what bosses in MC have dot rot
how many times have we had classic at this point and how many times will people regret not rolling hunter for pve and pvp
>>586597072>>586597048Take some sleeping pills, you have nothing going on in your life, losing one day doesn't matter.
>>586596835>cockslurping troon can't even fathom punishing all the celebrities and anyone who isn't the head of a country who ever used a private jet>instead they have to chop their dicks off and bitch about ai which is actually useful insteadif only you gay retards weren't retarded we'd have a bunch of great free leftist policy shit instead of just a bunch of ugly brown dykes in shitty vidya
>>586596896>naxxgramps what are you talking about this isn't era
>>586597028Molten Core already confirmed as "reworked and remade from scratch"So according to Blizzard all t2+ raids will be completly new even if they are the same bosses
>Pre-bis classes are going to be doing naxx warrior level DPSHow the fuck do they expect the content to not be a total faceroll when they're combining this and the infinite mana healers
>>586596995Lol nah, it was the same in some SoD phase where weaving was at the top by like 200 DPS but nobody could do 100% perfect weaving so you'd lose damage. You'd only need to fuck up I think 3 weaves before you'd lose everything you gained by weaving and then some.
>>586596835It started before the whole AI bullshit because retards like Germany shut down their nuclear and fossil fuels keep getting taxed harder and harder while they keep spending tax money on building solar and wind that have unstable production so prices fluctuate like crazy
>>586597028retard
>>586596995>they're by far the best even if you weave badlyyou do realize hunters have a deadzone in forever right? weaving badly means your DPS drops to 0 for a considerable amount of time. The weave sims show only the absolute perfect scenario which is why normal survive and weaving survival have an over 300 DPS difference between them
I hope very few fights and honestly none are designed around only having one tank.
>>586597159dont worry the raids will be super hard for your dad tank with max mitigation lil zoomie
>enhancement shaman>intmaxxing>two-handed hammerYep, it's bonking time
>>586596932wtf isn't it like a day and like 11 hours from launch? do you fucking sleep 11 hours you fat slug
>>586597214weaving is very easy in forever because strider kick gives 30% ms
>>586597156>xe thinks AI isn't causing more and more trannies to come out
my irl friends wanting to play is killing my hype because now to have to level a 2nd character that will only be used to play with themfucks sake
>>586596801>after all those buffs mememental is lower than smite priest
>>586596174What changes exactly? Isnt cat/bear pretty strong rn?
>>586596801Where did the big jump in Feral DPS come from?
>>586597214you gain 100+ dps by just weaving serpent sting every 30 second or whatever
>>586597187By making the enemies have more hp and deal more damage.It's not rocket science.
>>586597302why not just enjoy playing with your friends bro?
>>586593173They'll engage if they see you flagged, when it's like 5+ of them and there's no chance foe them lose.
>>586597256I raped you so hard you're just babbling about random gibberish. KWAB.
>>586597302you have zero reason to rush to 60 and you're gonna want an alt eventually anyways so what are you bitching about
>>586597302lol imagine doing something u dont want to do
>>586597187They literally said their design intent is to increase higher level mob stats
>>586597263No you fucking moron, you start sleeping at this time tomorrow too, that way you're fully rested.
>>586597327It's an hallucinated numbers collection based on lv30 beta and maybe know gear ignoring any new forever gear
>>586597343because they want to play once a week or twice a week max so i have to unwillingly make a second character (i never wanted a second character) and it also has to be faggot alliance because one of them refuses to play anything but
>>586597302stop being a bitch
>NOOOOOOO IF YOU DONT WEAVE PERFECTLY HUNTER GOES FROM BEING THE BEST TO ONLY BEING BETTER THAN 90% OF OTHER CLASSES
>>586597327Read the notes, all their skills got a damage increase
>>586596801Enhance can't be that high, It's a hybrid class! It's a shaman!
>>586597460>Goalpost status = shifted
i would kill all of you joyless hysterical losers with 1 punch
>>586597302>all the retards itt genuinely, unironically posting about how they're putting their own friends as anything other than their top priority for server/faction choice in a VIDEO GAMEi know i'm a big gay faggot but holy fuck if i'm playing with my friend i WANT to play with him (yes he's an unc and i want him)
>>586597482that's it delete the shaman discord we won't stand for this
>>586597382the alt in question is going to be useless because it's gonna be opposite faction
>>586597445then just fucking tell them you can play together when they catch up to your faggot ass, also alliance is better than the troon horde
>>586597501what if im a joyful calm individual?
>people are actually looking at a dps ranking in a game that isnt out yet and has no level 60 gear dataminesyou guys are epic xDD
>>586597514Want him in what way?
>>586596801>ai hallucinated "data"
>Friend and I planning to go Feral and Enhance>This patchYes hahahahaha YES!!!
>>586597315Treating Bear and Cat more as a separate thing in talents.No bearweavingSpamming Fruor to gain energy is lame and gay.Resto druid gutted 3 days agoBalance seems meh
imagine playing the faction u dont want to play just because your "friends" lmao
>>586597501Try it, limp-wirsted bitchboy
>>586597514well i don't want to play with them and if they suddenly want to play more than a few hours a week they can reroll horde, i don't give a fuck. they won't make it past the free week anyway
>>586597537so what? you have another character to play for fun, oh no, the horror!!! you have to have fun with your friends in a video game, you're going to fall behind all the streamers and minmaxers now and get to raidlogging a day later than them!!!!
>>586597460>tied for 4th with paladins>only 9 classes>better than 90% of other classes
>>586597572and it's some shitty AI website too idk why people are looking at it at all just bored I guess, people won't be talking about it soon
a whole lot of roguejeets and magejeets seething in here being the lowest dps
>>586597445the only thing you can do is roll horde rogue and gank your friends ruthlessly
Undead Paladins winning all day and night
>>586597514im the alpha in my friend group and caused a bunch of drama between my friends cuz they wanted to go rp pvp but I wanted to go pvp cuz im not a fuckin nigger and they all followed like the sheep they are because im alpha
>>586597640Based, you have to understand these nerds have no friends so they put friendships on a pedestal.
>>586596639One of the main features in Forever is making every spec viable. No more useless meme specs like in classic.
>>586597572there is level 60 gear datamined from professions though
>>586597662rogue just got buffed a lotmage is going to be fine
>>586597648it's not fun to not progress on your main character for the sake of some 2nd toon you never wanted this early in the first place because your stupid ass friend wants to go human male
>>586597704RP-PvP will have fewer layers than PvP.
>>586592057Don't look at riptide as a heal, look It Up as a setup for chain heal.I remember barely using chain heal on riptide targets in wotlk because I usually overhealed anyway, depending on encounter design and healthy pools It might be a sidegrade.Also, instant and efficient heals on such a short CD doesn't fit classic
>>586597652that's with a blindfolded buttonmash spec lmao
>>586597572yeah it made me laugh too but retarded cattle gonna be retarded cattle I guess
do i play horde or ally please help :(((((i kinda wanna go horde for skelf shamans but then i cant go nelf priest
>>586595379ROGUE IS BACKELEMENTAL SHAMAN IS SHOCKING
>>586597761i dont give a shit, I just wanna be where all the sweats are
I don't whether to make an orc warlock or a troll warlock
>>586597571you can be my bf >>586597625too late ur dead already
>>586597704Based, you should switch back to rp-pvp just to fuck with them t b h
>>586597773well if you go skyborne shaman you're playing with noshoes and mudhutters so yea
>>586597580i want him to make me gregnant>>586597640>they won't make it past the free week anywayoh. well enjoy a week with your bwo it's not going to last long idk
Here's the REAL tier list.Rogues won.
>>586597773ally if you are white or above 100 IQ, horde if you are lgbt+ or brown
>>586597809rogue isn't updatedthey will do 1k dps for sure
>>586597816So RP-PvP?
>>586597741oh well excuse me my bad that definitely makes the ai dps rankings legit
How are we feeling, warrior bros?
>>586597882whatever helps you sleep at night, faggot
>>586597759ok then just tell your friend he can play by himself because you're a fomo loser
>>586597809Nigga it's over
>>586597287>"Daenarys I miss you....">"come home to me anon quickly">"okay">kills himself>AHHHHHH AI IS KILLING OUR CHILDREN!!!It's actually insane how retarded people are
>>586597704kek
>>586597857>Hunt has both baby's first rotation and full on koren modeWe fucking won, huntard brothers
honey just put your sweet lips on my lips we could just kiss like real people do
What are these tierlists based on? Vibes?
>>586597910I'm cleaving hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUzzwCrLT0Someone get this man an all male straight white American lower class guild. I wanna see the types of videos he'll put out since he's on the brink of insanity.
>>586597980
All these newfags who don't understand sims are going to be in for some crazy culture shock when they first experience classic parsing culture for the first time
>>586597847Does he know that?
>>586597857>smite 4 buttons>Mind Blast, SWP, DP, Smite, Holy Fire, Penance>4 buttons
>>586597998Chat GPT prompts in perfect conditons vs training dummy
>>586596801Imagine believing this when rogues just got a major overhaul.
>>586595757>whats the point of a 1h + shield in pveDoesn't have to be a shield I suppose, could be a spellpower offhand. The point is that what's best for enhance is not a beefy 2h weapon and big WF crits. It's a spellpower weapon and flametongue.
>>586597857The absolute state of classic gameplay.
>people get to high level content>discover new gear that throws the sims out the fucking window
Which are the gamer dad specs? I'm thinking Elemental Dwarf Shaman
>>586598041Isnt that the fag with fucked up teeth
>>586591675Who made this retard the voice of all shaman players? Is this a humiliation ritual? Most people seem positive towards the class changes
>>586598146Are you retarded? You want 2h weapon on shaman. Period
>>586596896Less than a fraction of 1% of the top players ever saw the inside of Naxx40 in vanilla.
>>586591675Class discords are filled with the biggest retards/ESLs who need to be spoonfed everything so they can parse 10s
>>586598090smite priest doesn't even spec into penance bro...
gnome or night elf priest on a PvP serverpls bros I can't decide
So is the retarded shit like ammo, spell reagents and feeding your pet gone?
>>586597857classic fury warrior has more buttons to press than my retail fury warrior when i played midnight for a week...
>enh buffed>imp ghost wolf obliterated
>>5865980414 minutes inthis lad is a lost cause, he is mentally ill in the same manner women areunironically his best option is roping because its not going to get better
>>586598172He's had dentures for more years of his life than he's had teeth at this point.We're getting so old bros.
>>586598338nogo back to retail fag
>>586597857What's the source?
>>586597165The surprise is going to be BWL coming before MC.
>>586597764seems to me making it last longer but no initial heal just means more chance to proc crit effects like water shield and more time to stack chain heals. that to me sounds more interesting
>>586597190unfortunately hordes of low iq parsebrains will ignore this and flood the class due to it being 'top dps'. Perfect weaving with any semblance of mechanics is going to be pretty hard
Hunter occupying both the top and bottom of the difficulty curve really encapsulates the class
>>586597809Ele and Resto status?
>>586595505this data is AI sloppa? so its basically useless
>>586598384He'd be a great asset to any guild but I fear that his requirements are too steep.
>>58659843899% of hunters will be toward the bottom as always
>>586598220less than a fraction of 1% of the playerbase was sentient in vanilla
>>586597652It's also only 30dps 'better' than half of those other specs
>>586598297What kind of retarded vibecoded spec are they using then
>>586598371pls link the newest talents
>top rated build: melee hunterlmao
>>586597910fury protting for 1 or 2 raid resets until the fat retard deletes it with a shield requirement on defensive stance into quit game
>>586598530penance is a dps loss bro
>>586598212>jeb horse semen>trannyflag colored nameTake a guess.
>>586598564https://talentsforever.com/shaman/60/353003102-055030110051002251-03-RUS2XSWbaefghBFCGjAI-11?b=70753h&d=261103
Blizzard really saw no problem with melee hunters having this buff up permanently as a result of dual wielding
>>586598061I've been copiuming by hoping that the absence of world buffs will make raiding less retarded but obviously people are still going to be parsebrained for the foreseeable future. Still good to not have people autistically gathering every buff under the sun and raging hard when they die to something or other.
>>586598071no and stop asking
>>586597857>afflication is "4" buttons>but the actual rotation is curse, bane (would this be doom or agony does anyone know?), corruption, siphon life, shadowbolt, wrack aka 6 buttons?
>>586593820Balan changes?
>>586593464I think that's a sweet roleplay backstory desu
for me? it's priest>best healer>solid dps>easy to play>everyone wants me to healslut for them
>drops you a windfury totem>steals you mage's gear>steal the retri paladin's weaponThat is the enhancement shaman life in Forever.
>>586594260Just say it out loud so we know you know too.
THEY REMOVED LAVA BURST LETS FUCKING GOLIGHTNING OVERLOAD MULTI CAST IS NOW 30%STORM STRIKE BARELY A SIX SECOND COOLDOWNI FUCKING KNEEL
>>586598861But you can't use swords?
I have a question as someone who never plays Shaman but is considering it. If an Ele gets interrupted mid spellcast and nature spell locked in a PvP situation, are they just unable to play the game for its entire duration? With the removal of Lava Burst they are reduced down to only one spell school, no?
>>586598840I'm going rouge but priest would be my next choice, only I really cbf raid healing this time around, found that to be annoying as shit until WotLK disc. For 5 mans it's a lot of fun, such a nice toolkit. PvP they are broken as shit as well if you know what you're doing.
>>586598917Hands off the melee weaving weapon, lad.
>>586598797curse is a 5 min cd which they dont countsiphon life and wrack are dps loses
>>586598970you still have flame and frost shockand melee...luckily they said there aren't any elemental immunities which shit on shaman more than any other class with fire and nature being the most common
>>586593809im going to assume everyone here has 1000k hours or more at the least when we talk about thisi feel like pvp is actually pointless because you don't run into people you want to fight questing, and the random, asymmetric power of it is not fun. if you are harvesting stuff, it might be fun to be able to kill some of the people, but you can't kill everyone that goes for your black lotuses.the one time it resulted in what i would call emergent gameplay is when classic strangethorn veil became an unofficial battleground, but even then, it was just people taking turns to aimlessly stomp people who are questing and who had no recourse except to beg for help or get their mains. world pvp is something that sounds great on paper for all the hypothetical things it could be, but in practice, it is none of those. it isn't even for the kind of sociopaths people imagine to enjoy ganking, because those people get bored too
Has there been a /wowfg/ ruleset poll yet? I saw the reddit one a few weeks ago, not sure if they've changed their minds but probably, because that was like a day after RP-PVP was announced so there was initial hype for that.Wondering how many players are going where.
>>586598861cant wait
Elemental is le viable?
>>586598861>drops you a windfury totema warrior's best friend... >steals your mages gearyou don't have to steal it, i'd never invite a mage>steals your retri paladins weapongood, he should be wearing a dressjust don't take my swords and shields and we're gucci
Watching marksman and survival hunters fight over warrior and paladin BIS weapons is going to be fucking hilarious
>>586591675My first thought when I read the changes was "thank fucking god Lava burst is gone". What does this tranny want?
>>586599125honestly it will still suck
Girlies, I'm rolling on RP realms but I still don't know what I want to play or have a character for themI have a cute idea for a Dwarf Holy Paladin, but Shaman is also tempting, but Bronzebeard shaman feels weird and we have no Wildhammer or Dork Iron customisations...I just wanna be a cutie and have a fun class.
>>586598910its so fucking unreal why is elemental always fucking treated like this? playing elemental is THE shaman humiliation ritual
shaman chads, +crit chance or +int for first talent row now that mental dexterity gives +150% ap from int
best minimap (that ideally also works in dungeons/predungeon instances) addon?
>>586599125the buffs to the base damage of lightning bolt and chain lightning matter a lot more than the talent changes
>>586599125They need to remove chain lightning's cool down but yeah it's a bit absurd now. 30% proc rate on multi cast is going to feel amazing.I feel like they should still give each spec their own buffed totems to encourage bringing one of each but this is nice.
>>586599193Play what you want, it's your world (of warcraft lol) lol
>>586598970You have fire and frost shock, the fire totems and I guess flametongue weapon scales with spell power?
>paladin hands are still blessings>rogue poisons still have charges>nerfed soul shard gather rate for no reasonassholes
There’s been a lot of hyperbole the past several weeks but blizzard went full retard and really retailified the game with these changes. Shant be playing
>>586599375can i get a quick rundown
>>586599402Stuff got buffed so retards will call it retail.
>>586599083>>586599292sounds brutal you are essentially reduced down to a handicapped enchancement against mages etc. lol
>>586599402They made the game more fun with these changes. But that means it might be more unbalanced. And so this really upsets the "meta knight final destination only" group who take this game VERY seriously
can't decide between warlock or rogue for launch as a friendless loser solo player
>gnome rogue because it's retarded>human warlock because ally warlock will have half the playrate of horde lock and nerfed wotf really doesn't justify it>dorf shamankangz honor friend
>>586599343>nerfed soul shard gather rate for no reasonThis change didn't make sense to me, because sure you have shadowburn but every other soul shard ability is just utility stuff like making healthstones/soulstones which have a CD anyway, so it's not like having more soul shards automatically translates to more power, it's more of a convenience thing. Unless they added some more abilities that use them, haven't been paying attention to lock.
>>586599125we'll have to see, the big problem with ele before was that the base damage on bolt and CL was reduced by much, much more than any other caster
Anyone on the fence please don't play so I can have an easier time logging in.
>>586599504Warlock to make friends, rogue to make enemies.
Erm why is improved ghost wolf at 4th row
Any tips for Shaman tank while levelling?
>>586599375good fuck off
Is the shaman discord freaking the fuck out because they think daggers and flametongue will do the most enh dps? Obviously that's not what blizzard is intending for enh and it will be fixed in tuning, the fuck is there problem?
>>586599504Both won't get groups. But rogue is dramatically more fun to level and fuck around with.
>>586599463it's why boomies are funny, lockout means nothing to them
>>586599463in tbc arena ele can do a lot of burst damage but mostly just keeps totems down and uses earth shock and bloodlustalso they aren't very good
>>586599613Because Blizzard is DESPERATE to make plainsrunning a relevant racial.
>>586599504Warlocks are always wanted, while nobody will want a Rogue in their group.But Rogue will be much funner (imo) for solo play, I always hated how Warlocks feel to level. So if you're truly solo, definitely Rogue I'd say.
i think i'd enjoy sex with a woman...
>>586599658Warlock will get groups. Tanks will prioritize clothies who wont steal their gear
>>586599046>rouge>>586599084>strangethorn veilsupreme levels of retardation detected ITT, help us faggrend HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
>>586599647I assume anyone on discord is a retarded faggot that is one bad day from roping themselves so I don't care what they think
>>586599707Man I love Gnomes.
>>586599613it is a mystery except not a meme, no one has any idea why they would fuck over ele and resto like this
reminder that groups will never want hunters
paladin and druid are hero class yet again. why bother playing anything else when blizzard doesn't give a fuck about anything else
>>586599375They're basically letting discords and streamers balance the game for them
>>586599402he doesn't know what retail is but it sounds cool and he has no arguments
>>586599145Can't use swords anyway, only want spell power shields. You better get ready for my wet sloppy kisses on your big sexy lips.
>>586599707I wish we could enable HD models just for Gnomes, they're the only good one. SexoThe others are horrible.>>586599779For me, it's the Gnome voice
>>586599463Just bait their interrupt with a fakecast lol
looking forward to playing tommorow, but today I have to vote for white supremacy and trans genocide.
>>586599647>daggersShamans don't dual wield.
>>586599797>groups will never want giga pumpersbig cope
>>586599740oh you got meyeah that was wrongvale*ok can we talk about the rest of the post or are we just not doing that now?
>>586599529usually you don't want to have many soul shards in your inventory and when you do you have to sit somewhere and farm for a few minutes anywayit's a strange change that is stealing a few minutes of your life a month but ultimately doesn't matter at all
>>586599239crit will always be good. the bonus intellect and intellect to AP conversion will be more conditional to the loot>>586599663can't you still get ghost wolf with resto for sure and elemental maybe?
>>586599871they think a 1h dagger + offand will be better than a 2h
>>586599845that's genius why didn't I think of this
>prebis hunter deals same dps as vanilla full bis naxx warrior (no world buffs)
>>586599871Explain this then?
Trusting Blizzard in 2026 I can’t even fathom it. Forking over money to an incompetent skinwalker company that hasn’t made a good wow product in well over a decade! How???
>>586599613spec diversity is a good thing :)
>>586599941That looks like an empty hand
>>586599957i got a free week and im bouncing ngl
>>586599925mobs are going to have much more HP so the comparisons fall flatall the buffs only matter in a relative sense except they're going to really fuck up PVP
>>586599957bot post
>>586599814yes the most interesting classes are the most interesting who would've thunk it?!?!?? stick to priest lil vro
>>586599896>but ultimately doesn't matter at allI'm not gonna play lock but it annoys me because it's a nonsensical change by the people who are in charge of the game I'm gonna be playing. They should know better than to make nonsensical changes, they should learn to fear my wrath.
Popping elemental mastery and spamming chain lightning will cost you like 2/3 of your mana bar in 15 seconds without clearcasting procs
>>586599705>get invited to dungeon>my paladin's face as he watches me hellfire every pull and refuse to drink
>>586599941He only has claws of attack in one hand.
>>586599996bot reply
hd tauren females are scary looking... the sd ones are kinda cute in a janky way
>>586599893>giga pumpersplease stop using that word…
>>586599992Bounce on my cock
>>586600019yeah and they never ended up giving ele a mana talent other than what you can get in restoso it's going to be mana issues all over again which was honestly the biggest issue with ele in classic
>>586600019and it will be glorious
>>586599125>no fire nova
>>586600080ok. turbo blasters then. happy now ?
>>586599827That's my main problem with it really. If designed classes with a coherent philosophy, stuck to their guns until release and they ended up being unbalanced they could fix it. Instead they are making massive changes as a kneejerk reaction to whoever is crying the loudest at that particular moment.
>monster health increasedCan we reverse the Penance damage nerf now?
>>586599957bro I’m an American, a 3 taco meal costs $17 here.
best solo class? i don't wanna tank or heal
>>586600123retard you always take the mana regen, you get a totem that gives you mana regen too so it's like 60%and water shield
>>586600191Huntard
>>586600191huntard, lock, mage
>>586600084no make me
armor or weaponsmith as prot warri?
>>586598183>>586597980aaaaaargh why do we only get smelly night elfs
>>586600191Solo for what?PvP?
>>586599278Decisions are hard~
>still no nerf
>>586600248ok *makes you*
So do we think Subtlety will be "good" in PVE now?
>>586600272Both
>>586600294lol who cares about that minigame shit?
>>586600289>*nades you*nothing personnel nelfsissy
>>586600226okay and enhance gets 50% from its own tree and uses less mana than ele the only hope is water shield carrying
can I make enough money to get a mount if I level with tailoring and enchant instead of dual gathering?
>>586596801where does this tierlist come from sister?
>>586600289>channeledOk that's not too bad, all that damage prob breaks psychic scream anyways. Although having that be a 30 second CD only is a bit busted.
>>586600191> i don't wanna tank or healPaladin
>>586600343How are you going to get the best gear to PVP if you don't raid?
>>586599957I'll let them scam me for a month.
is this fine for max level feral? a lot of talents just seem really uninteresting nowis feral even goodi don't know shit about anything for this version of the game
>>586600292NYOOOOO AAHHNNNN
>>586600289It doesn't scale with any talents so why would it need a nerfit's not busted like shadowguard
>>586600357every caster is expected to stack spirit for mana regen because the regen talent every mana user gets is 50% nowyou'll be fine
>>586600483>0 in BalanceRetard
>>586591575>Be me>have wife>she stopped shaving at my request>ethnically welsh/scott/irish (we're american) so hairy af when she doesn't shave>She loves when I play with her hairy armpitsPic rel, her build after four children. She's playing WoW for the first time with me tomorrow (but probably Thursday/Friday, let's be real)
>>586600483looks like shit I have no idea what you're trying to do here
>>586600483Tank or DPS?
Why are so many priest talents dedicated to a meme smite dps spec no one is going to use?
>retards keep spreading misinfo that swiftmend consumes the hot nowactually retarded or just retarded enough to believe AI summaries?
>>586600483feral sucksplay rogue
>>586599084>i feel like pvp is actually pointless because you don't run into people you want to fight questingFriction is good and interesting. It's why we got rid of flying mounts and teleporting to dungeons. It's cool to land in a quest hub and see that it's being raided and requires adaptation to the situation.
>>586600564unless?
>>5866003576% max mana pops are good, it will suck recastiing water shield but you have good mana regen + clearcasts + water shield
reasons to level gnome priest>better animations>cuter voice>better zonesreasons to level nelf priest>pointy ears>sexier>flip>not a midget
blueberry bimbos look like they smell good...
>(You) on the left waiting for warlock (Me) to cummon you
>>586600556>inviting your fat wife to play wowhope you enjoy the cucking and the divorce bro.
>assassin>fully into dots and autoattacksit's comfy time
>>586600578because rdruid is still busted if they leave that init's not fair to the other healers who all got their instants kneecapped
>>586600552why>>586600560>I have no idea what you're trying to do hereme neither>>586600563tank/pvp that can dps sometimes i guessi'm not super interested in catform beyond 'we already have a tank' or 'that faggot looks killable' in openworld pvp>>586600585>play roguerogues can't tank
>>586598840I only have myself to blame but I leveled as holy all the way to 60 in classic and it burnt me out from ever trying a priest from fresg again
>>586600640those night elf points are just one split into four
>>586600650that's very... blue
>>586600650Skelves look like THAT? Well I shan't be paying for them but I will follow them around sometimes
I just saw the new patchnotes. Warrior got super buffed it seems?
>>586600650They look like a photo negative of an actual race. Bizzaro elves, now yours for $80 (plus the tip)
>>586600640Shadowmeld mind control
>>586600697are you joking? it's still on a 15s cooldown, wild growth went up to 3s from 0, and other healers have far quicker heals than healing touch and more instant in general. literally lying and deluding yourself that swiftmend got nerfed or that druid is busted because your class's instants got nerfed is stupid
>>586600714You're gonna want 7 points in Balance to get the 4% hit. No reason to drop points on the cat form shit like Shifting Power if you're trying to tank. You'll have dual spec, just do one spec for PVE tanking and the other for PVP.
>>586600804So they're Nega-elves?
Any talent calcs been updated yet?
new>>586600896>>586600896>>586600896
>>586600879What did you call me?
sap sap sap sap sap sap
>>586600794Give it a few patches more and warrior will be back to naxx gear and WBs power levels.
>>586600804>blue elves bad, orange elves good
>>586600748Smite spam is strong enough to make holy viable for leveling imho, although you still wanna get wand specialisation ofc. Priest really is a broken class when you think aboot it.
>>586600683>Cucking divorceShe's weirdly more socially conservative than me, probably on account of being from a wealthy rural family that gives a fuck about ethnic pedigree. She gets decision paralysis about anything a 1950s housewife wouldn't do without their husband's permission, it's actually cute af, I don't think she's physically capable of cheating.
>>586599115there will be login issues 100% you will wait long time
>>586598517You're exactly as retarded as ever.
>>586599271>I feel like they should still give each spec their own buffed totems to encourage bringing one of each but this is nice.literally every other hybrid lost their spec exclusive utility why would they give shaman one
>>586600714feral points are really tight now it's hard to be cat and bearsadly it's something like this but if you have aggro in cat form then shifting power is better
>>586600714>whyJust missing 10% DoT damage, 4% crit and 4% hit, no big deal really.
>>586601260I mean take shredding attacks over predatory discipline+shifting power if you can backstab
>>586599705>>586599658Any competent rogue is 45% or more of the DPS in a typical 5 man.
>>586600556> Welsh, Scottish and IrishYou're American, fuck off.
>>586598760Lol
>>586600180Triple the price in Sweden or Switzerland.America is very cheap and affordable. You think $4/gallon gas is a lot. It is $10 in Europe and we make less money and pay more taxes.
>>586597910easily worst dps in raids, useless in pvp, useless in overworld contentPersonally im rerolling warlock after i hit 60 on warrior
>>586602184 Nobody asked about the fucking prices in Disneyland: Europe, the point is a sub is cheaper than 3 tacos.
>>586601439what? rogue has 0 cleave or aoe
>>586598910Lol the average reaction on social is people seething the spell is gone
Getting ready for WoW Forever...Thinking about trying out an RP or a PVPRP server. What do you guys think?
Convince me not to play enhance
