Sexiest Comedian EditionThis general is for the discussion of the adult English visual novel Lessons in Love, where you take over as the teacher for a class of 20 students trying to make their way through life. BEWARE: There is a lot of sex.>Game linkshttps://djnostyle.itch.io/lessons-in-love (It's free!)https://subscribestar.adult/selebus>ToolsGuide mod (get this!): https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-progress-and-guide-mod-v0-57-0-cckerberos.106973/ ~ https://workupload.com/file/tGkBJshZzrDAutomod (transforms the game from sandbox to fully linear): https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-autovn-mod-linear-mod-v0-59-0.221087/Flowchart: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11fllvDn805bE_8JOl7TKOTM40O6LJnkN/viewURM (for editing values): https://0x52.dev/mods/Universal-Ren-Py-Mod-1000Puzzle guide: https://attachments.f95zone.to/2025/11/5442808_Lessons_in_Love_Resets.txt>Community worksWiki (includes translations for hex/etc): https://lessonsinlove.wiki/Fanart: https://www.lessonsinlovegame.com/galleries/fan-art/>FAQQ: The world is broken and I can't progress! What do?A: That's intentional. Try to work out how to progress, or check the puzzle guide if you really can't figure it out.Q: Is there any way to find scenes easier? I keep getting lost.A: The guide mod in the tools section will show exactly what scenes are available and how to get them at any given time. It's highly recommended.Q: What kind of /vn/ is this, exactly?A: It's a sprawling, 3-million-word long harem dating sim with an emphasis on slice-of-life comedy and romance that at times dips into denpa (schizo) themes and slowly unfurls a grander narrative as a web of drama forms between the cast. Play the start and you'll soon see what's up.Q: How do I unlock the secret loli bonus scenes?A: Input code "allcharactersare18+" using the PC once you unlock it.Previous thread: >>586487319
First for Maya's flawless ass.
Despacito is a great song, I don't get this current scene I am in.
>>586900248maya has had to listen to ayane sing it a lot
>>586900248>despacito is a great songSO MUCH THIS
>>586900248
>>586897051so whoever gets in last is certified worst girl right? who we betting on? Maki? Osako?
>>586900716better fucking not be Maki. she is the hag I love the most after Sara.
>>586899695This but the death ball.
>>586900716rika. we probably should get an adult out of the way next so we don't have to do them all in a row though, unless we're going back to the earlier plan of a makoto thread.
>>586900996Yeah, we need to start alternating now.
>>586901110i agree, and i nominate Maki.
>>586900248Do you want to listen to a Japanese girl sing it in a karaoke booth 10 times in a row?
>>586900880There are some high tier hags coming later that will change your mind
>>586901902hard to believe. I just met Yuki, she's damned cute, and i look forward to her scenes, but Maki and Sara are something else.
>>586902348I just meant about Maki. Sara is great.
>>586870551[C3]All it took was one walk holding hands to get her to start wanting affection in ways that's more than just a dick in her hole. That's all she really wants is to be acknowledged since Karin is mommy and daddy's favorite little girl. Our little whore is growing up.....so proud of that dick sucker
[CH4]This Nodokathon event was fucking garbage, like, the first truly poorly written event in the game so far. Don't tell me this is another recurring thing...
>>586900716There's some good options, but we should probably wait until some newfrens get closer.
>>586902550[C3]She has far deeper issues than just looking for attention or acknowledgement. She's afraid, inadequate, and can only cope with her emptiness through sex. Kind of similar to someone else, innit?In fact, her whole floor has a lot of similarities to that someone else if you know what to look for.>>586902562[C4]Agreed. Wasn't a fan, even if the stills were enjoyable. I never thought I'd complain about fanservice, but there's just something needlessly degrading and somewhat malicious about the whole thing despite the fact that it just wasn't an interesting read.
>>586901679I believe it would be impossible to not breed such a girl
>>586902516She really is.
Why are you guys making this C4 thing
>>586902562[C4]Agreed, but the later ones are better, thankfully.
[C4] On*Out of curiosity for the newcomers, in this is a pic that has no real plot spoilers, but involves a scene with a character that you haven't encountered yet. Do (You) personally consider that worth spoiling to begin with?
>>586903453Because there's so many tiers of spoilers that anyone going through the story would just see a wall of the forbidden black text and not know what, if any, are safe to check without being spoiled.The [C4], [C3], and [C2] are just indicative of what chapter said spoiler is relevant to, so anyone sufficiently on, past that, or getting a reply on has some idea of what they're getting into.Like >>586902992Where one of the spoilers goes for the reply of someone on [C3], but the other is for [C4] and the half-assed marking makes it clear the other isn't safe for them to check.It's a long, spoiler-heavy story, and this is at least something to help keep discussion going when people aren't necessarily caught up. Make sense?
>>586900716not quite.
>>586902992[C3] im going out on a limb and saying Haruka for who your talking about in the most literal sense.
>>586902992[CH4]The whole thing felt OOC for most characters (except Nodoka and Kirin). These might be horny girls who want to fuck their teacher, but I never got the feeling that they'd be so willing to expose themselves in front of other classmates. There is also the fact that this event happens just after Nodoka publicly announced Io's sexual abuse to everyone. Even if the characters don't like Io, it's hard to believe Nodoka is still not hated by most of them.>>586903521welp, I hope you are right
>>586904163https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvhFbaRTZgo
>>586904542>[CH4]I understood that Nodoka pretty much got them in a semi-slip state of being.
>>586904901Fuckin broken spoilers again.
Take 2>>586904316Afraid not.I'm talking about or loveable, handsome, completely morally straight protagonist...ish.When you break down the characters and really compare them, what drives them, what made them, what they even are, more things to use PERCEPTION on pop up.It's a literary story, don't be afraid to analyze.>>586904542[C4]I think Sana might have gone through with it, but yeah I can't imagine anyone besides maybe Kirin would still agree to it. Noriko, even if she's a horny bitch, is still a bleeding heart and would love nothing more than to performatively walk out. If you buy her act, that is.
>>586904542[CH4] I thought it made sense considering they have their minds completely elsewhere because of everything that's going on right now
>>586904163I imagine some fan will snipe her even if you try to put it off till the endif no one else does it I will. She definitely deserves it over the more bottom of the barrel girls
>>586905032Oh PERCEPTION oh ok I thought you were alluding to a woman with with the word "her". Brain gets tired sometimes. With Uta that's to run away from her past as Sensei did with Sekai, Io it's intimacy but in different forms as Io has physical intimacy issues and sensei its emotional like fuck man look how long it took to use the word making love instead of sex for....sex, for some others it may need more time to PERCEIVE but really I guess a common factor is acceptance in some shape or form
>>586906760[C3]Reroll perception if you haven't figured out Io's deal by now and how that relates to Sensei. Noriko, Nodoka, Io, Kirin, and Yasu should be ones you more or less have the framework for by now, but these things will get clearer with time.While I'd love to say it'll be on the test... it won't. But it's good to know these things.Also, Floor 1 can be searched for similarities as well in a different manner.
I was supposed to be posting more Ami today but I got too distracted and dehydrated myself to Ami pictures until I got dizzy. Maybe tomorrow. Enjoy the black spoiler bars or whatever you guys do at this hour?
>>586907181[/spoiler] rerolling perception check on Io(insert dice roll sound)....the self-deprecation?[/spoiler]
>>586908214>Enjoy the black spoiler bars or whatever you guys do at this hour?Why did this remind me of that guy who had a pixelated censor fetish?
>>586908674Perception check failed... Roll for mental damage.
>>586904569what is love?>>586906442indeed, a mere "fan" might. something few grasp about sequences: which element has the greatest prominence?
>>586911590Damn.....guess I'll join both of them and give my self some....mental trauma "bum dun tissshhhh" locking in my final answer
In an alternate reality, this was the OP.
>>586919842we can't just use that outfit for every op... i didn't even want it for the last thread
>>586920030That's why it's the alternate reality. But Selebus should stop being a hack and download a second swimsuit.
>>586920030I chose it last thread less for the sex appeal of the swimsuit itself and more because it showed Kaori's scar clearly + most of her spider tattoo, which no other render could really do.
>>586920623that's exactly why i didn't want it, the scar is a mild spoiler
>>586920483There are tons of them though. That's just the one everyone gets requested in.
Art thou a worm? image of weakness. art thou but a Worm?I see thee like an infant wrapped in the Lillys leaf:Ah weep not little voice, thou can'st not speak, bout thou can'st weep;Is this a Worm? I see thee lay helpless & naked: weeping,And none to answer, none to cherish thee with mothers smiles.
>>586908214I could fondle Ami and lick her nipples for hours.
download that Chinese neuroslop about lil guys.https://www.bilibili.com/ru/video/BV1k9jT6TEe2/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=e0c9d0ef787ca0b373ea857f017ac7fd
>>586931716had to turn it off when the rap started. i have a zero tolerance policy vis-a-vis jungle music.
https://www.bilibili.com/ru/video/BV1uRG36EEnD/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=e0c9d0ef787ca0b373ea857f017ac7fdhttps://www.bilibili.com/ru/video/BV1MntH6jEFU/?spm_id_from=333.1387.homepage.video_card.click&vd_source=e0c9d0ef787ca0b373ea857f017ac7fdhttps://www.bilibili.com/ru/video/BV13QTG6rENJ/?spm_id_from=333.1387.homepage.video_card.click&vd_source=e0c9d0ef787ca0b373ea857f017ac7fd
>>586931716Io is too precious for this miserable world.
>>586931716>>586932594CN bros Lesson in Love discussion must be next level
>>586939312Or bottom-level. I've seen it go both ways when something enters the hivemind stream.
>>586939312I would think that discussing this game in a different language would be awful.
>>586939636Pretty sure 2ch says the same thing
>>586939937I think LiL is very much tied to English as a language and the writing makes a conscious effort to take advantage of various facets of that. I know in VN discussion there is a meme about games being "untranslatable" (I say "meme" because the discussion around this idea is generally buffoonish and anything is translatable to some degree of fidelity) but there are enough things in LiL that are built around just playing with the language itself that I would be concerned about how much of the experience of reading it would be lost on someone who is either not fluent or reading in translation.
>>586940701this, and translating into a non-romance language is even worse. you inevitably lose something, because not all ideas in Western languages translate to Eastern, and vice-versa.English is uniquely difficult since it's a mongrel romance language with it's own permutations.
>>586940928While certain sorts of people like to shit on English due to its lack of etymological "purity," I think the variety and subtlety of expression that can be obtained by taking advantage of the differences in Saxon and Latinate vocabulary is one of English's greatest strengths.
>>586941410Vladimir Nabokov loved English so much, he began writing his novels in English, despite it being his second language (and having previously published nine novels in Russian). I'm certainly happy to be an English speaker. It's more than adequate for expressing the contents of my mind.
>>586941802>I'm certainly happy to be an English speaker. It's more than adequate for expressing the contents of my mind.As am I. I've never been dissatisfied with English. There is the question, though, of whether and to what degree language shapes our paradigms of thought. Which is to say that a given language may feel sufficient because our thoughts take shape in forms that have been conditioned by that language. Either way, I've never been a fan of calling one language better or worse than another. I think things like that ultimately come down to the skill of a writer in making use of it.
>>586942451I think it invariably does influence thought. Language is the system for encoding knowledge. It would be impossible to be an intellectual without it.
>>586943190And I agree.And now back to reading. I think I can get through Halloween 1 over the weekend. I'd like to go ahead and clear Chapter 1 but I doubt it will happen.
>>586936592The new Karin CGs are nice. Speaking of Karin, the fact that her route is actually a locked one is interesting. The consequences for being on any of the red routes just keep increasing and it makes me wonder what else is going to be locked. There aren't that many heroines left, though. Tsubasa being locked is obvious. I think Otoha may end up being locked behind whether or not you got her phone number. Anyway, punishing you for this shit like 200 hours after the fact is funny, I think.
>>586946892Sensei should massage them to make her feel better
>>586948389No can do, I got a five-o-clock at Dorsia.
>>586943190>It would be impossible to be an intellectual without itIntellectuals are a myth.
>>586949804It's ok anon, no one is asking you to be one.
>>586950279Good. After Chompsky's embarrassment, I'd rather headbutt a table saw than be accused of such a thing.
Interesting that this is described as close by and between Sensei's house and the school/dorms. Of course you're later told the old school is outside the barrier. I'm inclined to take this as meaning that the old school was indeed nearby in the original world and does not physically exist in a normal way now, having been replaced with the current school.
>>586951682Fuckin crimson chin cat
Well this is quite obviously describing the Trinity and not the Stations of the Cross, which is something completely different. I think anyone would know that, so I have to assume this is intentional and connected to the cross being referred to as the letter T in the earlier Happy Scene with that title.1/2
>>586953128T is also for tree, and the cross earlier (which was also illuminated by three spotlights) has been replaced with a tree now. Also regarding the three spotlights (or three gods), in the earlier Happy Event, one of those is not actually a spotlight but a computer (Wires) being used by a blurred out Maya (picrel, you can tell that it's her when it first shows the scene from a different angle). The computer is also in the same position as the spotlight the cat is standing next to here >>586951406. Of course T stands for something else too.2/2
>>586953128I've seen Jesus Christ's name crossed out; idk if Seb wants to dive too deep into Christ, and instead focuses on the Old Testament. But the crucifixion is powerful imagery.
>>586953128>>586953382I think I also pointed out the relevance of the snow in the earlier scene given the computer, and it's snowing again in this one too. When User2 tries to establish a connection in The Room With Clocks, Sensei notes the ground being hard there, also signifying the season.
>>586953448The Christian symbolism is most prominent early in the game.
>>586953448Well, he is the protagonist...
>>586955359I think that largely has to do with [C3]their lack of understanding of their situation. Where to them, HOPE and Tojo are indistinguishable from actual gods they don't even have names for so it tickles that part of their ape brains about higher powers, free-will, and spirituality. Later on down the line when the WHAT becomes a bit more clear, the conversations turn more internal than spiritual. The question of "What do you want from me?" has a different meaning and different answers depending on whether you're asking God or the Ghost in the Machine. It's the death of the wistful whys that come with understanding.
>>586956239Have you caught up with the game or are you at an earlier point?
>>586956384Got a while yet
>>586956491If you're at that point then you should have seen "Hope, Peerless God of Light" then, yes?
>>586956759He big, yeah. But that means exactly dick to me. Too many years buried in SMT, I see "god", I punch.
>>586956232Christ is the protagonist? Sensei is clearly not Christ... though now that you mention it, it's funny that Sensei means Teacher, and that's what Jesus was, essentially...I'd be disappointed if it turned out Sensei was Christ Risen, that would be cliched beyond belief. Not to mention incredibly blasphemous (I don't mind that, it's just stupid.)
>>586957071Well it'll make some more direct sense before long.
>>586957221I mean in the sense that he sacrifices himself on the cross every day for the good of his students; he always turns the other cheek, so he can slap the other one for their sake.
>>586957221Actually the protagonist of the Bible is causality and the antagonist is the folly of Man. Solomon bled us for more than the Serpent did.>>586957250It makes somewhat direct sense now. Not like "find this and shoot it" levels of direct sense, but sense nonetheless. I could see a game plan forming though, but it's pointless when Sensei is filled with more indolence than lust.
>>586955359What if HOPE killed God and put on his skin and is a giant fucking imposter, perhaps the devil himself, or a vengeful, schizophrenic spirit, who is tormenting Sensei and the other damned souls of Kumon-mi. Maya is a guardian angel who resets the world to prevent it's annihilation. Something like that.Still in Chapter 1.
>>586958528Potshots, mostly, but one went in the right direction. He is a real cunt though, isn't he?
[C4]Red route ftw Except for the part where Sensei clearly knows this girl is developing feelings. He calls it Hell.
>>586958528
>>586958659>>586959243Yeah I feel like I'm getting close. I don't expect many clues in all the Happy Scenes. it's a bunch of noise, the truth is in the larger metanarrative.
>>586960020Sensei says 'what the fuck' a lot.Cursing doesn't make you cool, Sensei.
>>586959119You are missing some kino there, I'm afraid.
>>586960020>I don't expect many clues in all the Happy Scenes. it's a bunch of noiseThey're fairly inscrutable at the point you're at but you should be able to go back later, for example, and read The Room With Clocks and understand it. You'd be surprised how little noise there actually is.
>>586960325He's a big boy, he can do whatever he wants and still be cool!
Heh
>>586964353Heh again
[C4]Here we are, finally. We're so far away from the Chapter 2 implication that I was seriously starting to wonder if it was a dropped fucking plot point. Here's to you, brother of Light, may the depths of Hell echo with your pain for eternity... whenever you get sent there, that is.
[C4]Yeah, there is.>>586967330Tick tock
>>586967330
>>586969592
>>586958528You'll notice the angels don't have wingsWell....until a certain one showed up later if you do things the right way
>>586972069they must be fallen then...
>>586972586PERCEPTION....or not. We'll see....we'll see
>>586975418Sex Goddess Tsuneyo...
>>586913181Lunchtime PERCEPTION so dorm level 2 is similarities to Sensei in terms of his characteristics so is dorm 1 a reflection of his life? Ayane is a reflection of his childhood relationship with his parents as we know he didnt like his own mother Saki, Rin's depression is a reflection of Sensei's withdrawals from society due to his own depression, Futaba is his past love of literary arts but also connects to Sekai. Makoto is his past love for teaching. Am I PERCEIVING correctly?
>>586975604You're noooticing. But yea. Some of these don't become immediately apparent until later again when the cracks begin to show. The simplest, though not wholly accurate, explanation is Floor 1: Causes and Floor 2: EffectsWith a noteworthy exception being Io. But that, you'll need to use PERCEPTION on.
>>586977460I feel the need to make a chart for this.....I feel like sekai is important to this chart I'll start making tonight
>>586978853Honestly with how expansive this story is, a chart might be a bad idea.
>>586978853
>>586979623Yes. That type of chat
>>586979623Just talk to the monks.
This.This right here.This is what I live for.
>>586980151scholar
>>586980889The bitch attached to the sighting of something wonderful has no bearings on it's magic, just to be clear.
>>586979749I made something like that when I was playing the Rance series. If you're doing it digitally try obsidian, it's really satisfying seeing the web fill up.
Which scene in Chapter 1 has Sara offering to suck you off in the office? I just wanna reread that scene.
>>586984348It must be deep in Main Event hell. I can't help you...
>>586995338Tsuneyo is a rare character that isn't sexier in her loli form.
>>586999074unlike most of them she barely looks like the same character even
[C4]If the NiB/T22 connection isn't entirely metaphor, wouldn't that mean Sekai is Akira's half-sister and that regardless of who the father is, Ami IS an incest baby?
>>586984348You might be thinking of her event A Mostly Empty Home.
>>587001524Could the post the dialogue from that? I know what you're talking about but it's been a minute since I've read it and I want to make sure I'm remembering it correctly before I respond.
I was about to give up the game when suddenly Maya bought me a coffee from the machine. WE SO FUCKING BACK! SHE WANTS ME, I AM SURE NOW
>>587007305>I was about to give up the gameWhy?
>>587004404It'd be a pain in the dick to find, but Saki loves Yuu, and the event before Kittens has the red-head saying she's pregnant with Yuu's kid who she wants to name Sekai, with Nao telling Akira that T22 is his "home"
>>587007821I would need to reread it but from my memory, I would not take that to necessarily mean she had a child with that name, since she's just talking about it. All biological mother/daughter pairs also have the same eye color and Miu has blue eyes whereas Sekai has red eyes. That doesn't mean anything either though since that could be explained away as some kind of terminal difference if the plot did go in that direction. But it's something I'd count as a point against it for the time being.
>>587007587Because Maya seemed to hate me too much, ok?
>>587009520I thought you meant you were about to literally drop the game, nevermind.
>>586977460 "noteworthy exception being Io.".....Perception roll (rolls dice through ||'s massive space after becoming the whore ({}) after visiting discord) and Io's rejection of physical intimacy....is the reflection/cause (whatever you'll want to call it) of his early stage with Sekai grooming him? I'm writing ahit down now to make sense of it all. AND BRAINSTORM PERCEPTION Chika is the reflection of Sensei raising Ami. Engaging Nodoka Crazy Bitch mode to PERCEIVE more
>>587012484nodoka is a dangerous power to channel but the results are worth it
>>5870124840 for 2, bub. Would you like a pointer to something you've already passed?
>>587012721Yes
>>587012771Something Everybody Knows and Ignores. Sekai loved flowers.
>>587012891 Ami's dress her mother would wear is covered in flowers. Ami wears a daisy in her hair with the dress. Something about Sekai and flowers....possession? Taking the flower and making it yours? Is this about deflowering
>>587014320It's about trampling. Something a flower enthusiast would never do.
>>587014360 trampled flowers...loss of innocence by cruel truth of reality?
>>587014553Check the attached quote from that scene and see if you get it.If you don't, check this next hint. The intro to the next happy scene, Good Boy
>>587015239 am i at least right to think Sekai is more or less is a central point to the causes/themes/ect of dorm floor 1 characters and what the represent with Sensei?
>>587015815Just check the damn hint, it's something pretty heavy you're missing out on because you your perception was lacking. CURE YOURSELF USE THE EYE DROPS
>>587015953 I didnt want to check the hint but fine. Coping mechanisms
>>587016167You are permitted to cope with ignorance when you cure it. You're lucky this is covered under 4chan's Universal Healthcare or else I'd slap you with a bill you'd never recover from.
>>587016452I wasn't the best in English in highs school and all that stuff. I try master i try
>>587018968A pain the gut in reference to sexual abuse is not something a woman is capable of. I'll give you a pass on your ESLdom because I can't currently nuke your location without killing my sworn brother.
>>587024605>Firework reaching 40 ft in front of them on the staircase but reaching behind the ferris wheel 100 ft awayThis follows zero safety regulations.
>>587026136That's Makoto's dad spaceship exploding in space actually
>>587027191I don't know if you know perspective, but that's not in space at all. But if SOMEONE is exploding, I'm glad they do it so beautifully for my second wife's enjoyment.
>>587018968[C3] fuck I knew this would happen. I knew her suicide attempt resets would come around to this at some point. >>587019104 by bad in English I meant like English class in high school in the USA with poetry, themes etc. I did my best but was never my strong suit. That was history. I honestly think that conversation was going off track for my brain and will go back to slowly understanding as it goes instead of jumping the gun so much before things get to that point. God why is it this all somehow makes me think about Char Aznable and Lalah?
>>587028193What a beautiful booty. Surely nothing could be more important than staring at that.[C2]I'll wait until it finally comes back up again, but it's going to be a LONG while.But if it's any consolation, I got into high school magazines four years running, won some competitions, and still got a D in LA 3 years running. Grades rarely determine your actual suitabilities. I can spell it out if you're really that lost buuuuuutt do you even want that?
Finally, I have won the game.
>>587028193>picSEEEEEEEX>>587029223KINOOOOOO
>>587028746 I've honestly lost tracked of the particular conversation at this point. I began to loose track where this was going at the start of the Io tangent. I'll just figure out dorm 1 first over the phantom pain of Sensei's sexual abuse as a child. Causes first and effects second...for the moat part now I know why I think of Char Aznable for this.....Lalah's death fucked him up just like HER death with Sensei
what we think about having sex with Maki while her husband is fighting in space
>>587029563I'm tempted to just say it out of frustrated spite because it's THAT IMPORTANT to what you're trying to piece together.So, quick recap,>The trampling Flowers line from Something Everyone Knows and Ignores is important>Sekai did things to him, but her love of flowers means that line wasn't in reference to her>The intro from Good Boy is important>But the last three lines means the intro wasn't about herI've spent the afternoon draining november's liquor rations, so I won't be around to say anything else, but I really urge you to understand it before moving past this thought.>>587029902Two words: Open MarriiageTwo more words: Protect Makoto
Oh dear.
>>587032587we warned you
>>587003925Right, but apparently, you only get that if you fucked her in the Carry Me Home event. If you try to replay it from the menu, the game always assumes you didn't fuck her senseless, so those dialogues are removed from the event altogether
>Revisit The Room With Clocks>Check out the new music name display in the settings>amiasleep.mp3Uhh...
automod le good? or automod le bad?
>>587035371Automod le gayIt's for people that legitimately just want to hit the auto button and sit for hours doing nothing but reading.Anyone else? The game is worse for.
>>587029990"heavy breathing" ok. My brain was not understanding it was the name of an event. I capitalize the first letter alot in my notes at work so it wasnt clicking in my brain. Ok.....I'm going to make you empty out that bottle probably. So the event abbreviated to Sekai for the event name but its not about her with the flowets. Its about Sensei and his only way to fill the void without Sekai was to prey on young girls and makes me think he raped one. The Good Boy intro makes me think not as its clear Sensei would only have that stomach feeling if he himself was abused sexually at home....by his mother. With loops and resets im sensing something about there being a cycle of abuse I feel as if I have the 2nd part right. Please don't hate me more than you do
>>587035748>It's for people that legitimately just want to hit the auto button and sit for hours doing nothing but reading.yeah imagine wanting to read a visual novelcrazy guys
>>586999074>Tsuneyo is a rare character that isn't sexier in her loli form.I disagree; I'm sure there are examples somewhere but loli Tsuneyo gets my motor going.
>>587028193I want to prone bone Makoto while she grades papers or reads.
Saw this in the u149 thread on /a/ and I IMMEDIATELY thought of LiL. I suspect I will think of it whenever I see a sunflower.
>>587035371It's a tough call, assuming one is using the progress mod - if someone ISN'T using the progress mod, I would say automod is extremely superior to the alternative. With the progress mod, it's tough.For Chapter 1, I may tentatively say it's worse. Just from my observation, I think people tend to enjoy the feeling of forging their own path through the nonlinear game space: focusing on heroines they like, going through the motions of discovering happy events, getting a feel for the locations of Kumonmi, etc. There's some benefits there and I think it's rare for me to see someone actively dislike it; I think most enjoy the more "gamey" and freeform feeling. Just imagine loading up the automod and being forced through Miku and Fataba events while you want to spend time with Ami or Maya, how horrible.For Chapter 2 and beyond, though, I think it's better. As the nonlinearity tapers down and the sandbox becomes a series of needle in the haystack hunts crammed between special event sequences, automod only improves the game I would say.To a new player I wouldn't go out of my way to recommend automod, but I would mention it as a possibility, and by ch2/3 if I care to micromanage them I may mention it again if they're getting tired of nonlinearity. If automod was ever baked into the game but the progress mod wasn't then I would say to turn it on and I would forget all of the progress mod business.
LiL is my first VN and I do wish it was... well, I wish it were a game.LiL is not a game. It is a visual/text media hybrid with an occasional choice. And sometimes that choice isn't a real choice. In fact Seb does that many times. He'll give you a menu of choices but it's a metajoke, or the "wrong" choices will simply lead back to the menu. Even the choice of to engage in sexual activity isn't a real choice; the game apparently locks you out of content for declining a sexual overture.It's fine, for what it is. But I would never "play through" LiL more than once. I have already poured like 30-40 hours into it and it's been an excruciatingly slow way to read prose. The saving grace is the cute CGs and the humor.
>>587039696In fact, you could probably represent the bulk of LiL in book form with illustrations. Simple print the CG scene and them include the dialogue below. Repeat throughout. An actual branch could be accomplished like a CYOA: turn to page 9 for this, page 71 for this. It would be even more linear than an old-school CYOA because the ratio of dialogue to choice is fucking huge in this game.
>>587040160That's standard in VNs though. Even when there are multiple routes, which makes the choices more significant, you only get to input choices 4-5 times in a 50 hour story.
>>587035859 I think I understand now...Everything Is Connected. That 2D woman was his mother. Yuu was his father. Saki (blossom) is the flower, Yuu was the man who trampled the flowers because Saki wasnt enought for him and I guess hung himself for somw reason if taking it literally. So if he's dead and if women don't have dicks (shocker) then Nozomu his brother is the one who abuses him in Good Boy. I rewatched earlier ones . TEACHER DID I MAKE YOU HAPPY NOW?!
>>587039350Maybe it's because I kind of knew what I was getting into (well, not really, but I knew it was more than a VN with a dating sim structure), but as someone who just wanted to read through the story, getting lost in the affection mines trying to trigger random shit on random days almost made me drop it. I can see this being okay when you are up to date with the latest patch, but I certainly wouldn't have made it to chapter 4 without automod.Still, if you are a new player I'd recommend giving the vanilla experience a try. You'll quickly know if it's for you or not.
>>587039696When I replay it myself I'll for sure use automod. With automod, the prose comes at you much faster. (And in later chapter it becomes much more dense in any case).
>>587040652>I can see this being okay when you are up to date with the latest patch,It's often actually kind of worse insofar as sometimes it's random shit like "call X at night on Tuesday" and one will have absolutely no clue where to begin. I pretty much universally keep an eye on the F95 thread since with an hour or so a trigger guide will be posted. Unfortunately LiL gameplay is just objectively bad. It's unfortunate Selly got trapped in like the poor thinking that "it's bad on purpose for artistic reasons," because that is the mental trap that keeps something shitty garbage forever.
>>587040652>I knew it was more than a VN with a dating sim structureI wish it had more dating sim, honestly. Aside from activating events in the right order, such as not having sex with Chika before Rin has the opportunity to be rejected, the game is on a set of rails with no deviation. Just showing up at the right time and agreeing to sex is all it takes. Thousand Arms, an utterly ridiculous Playstation game from the caveman era, has better dating sim mechanics.I suppose I'm just never going to be a fan of VNs. I'm compelled to play LiL but it's epic length is going to be a challenge for my patience. I'm unconvinced there is a mystery to unravel here. It's starting to feel like mystery box ala Lost or something, but even more schizophrenic.
>>587043013>I'm unconvinced there is a mystery to unravel hereLuckily that's one thing you can be totally relaxed about. If anything, I have felt LiL's been too blunt in giving hard answers to mysteries lately...
>>587034669It's not actually removed, it's just using a default set of flags. If you use the URM mod it will give you a signal when you reach a point whenever the game checks for flags, and you can choose which 'path' of the event you want to see.
>>587035371I think you should try it with just the guide mod, because there's a narrative purpose to the gameplay and you kind of miss that if you put everything on rails. That does not mean the gameplay is "good," just that it does have a point to it. That being said, if you just can't deal with the gameplay for whatever reason, then I'd say using the automod is fine. That's better than dropping it.>>587043013>I'm unconvinced there is a mystery to unravel here.There most certainly is. It's very unclear for quite a while, though. There's plenty of stuff from early in the game that probably seemed like nonsense, but if reread it later it will make concrete sense.
>>587043013I'm going to expand some on my previous response.>I wish it had more dating sim, honestly. Aside from activating events in the right order, such as not having sex with Chika before Rin has the opportunity to be rejected, the game is on a set of rails with no deviation.It's not *really* trying to be a dating sim in the sense you're talking about. It's kind of hard to talk about without spoilers, though. I could perhaps say that it's pretending a bit in the earliest parts, before it starts playing its actual hand later. While the basic mechanics are not going to go away, it's not just 200 hours of pseudo-dating sim stuff. I'm trying to be vague.>Just showing up at the right time and agreeing to sex is all it takes.There is a reason for that too. Also some of the choices later (the ones that are important) are going to be more complex than just agreeing to fuck someone or not (which you should always agree to, of course).>I'm unconvinced there is a mystery to unravel here.There is one. As I just said, it's unclear for a while and it takes its time with unraveling it, but it is there. I've been rereading the game lately and it's actually crazy how much shit is being waved in your face from the very beginning, that you either don't have the context to understand yet or just end up glossing over or dismissing as random nonsense. I certainly felt that way at times when I first read it.
>>587043013>I'm unconvinced there is a mystery to unravel hereThere absolutely is, and you'll eventually see a lot of that. However, given the latest developments, there is a solid chance we'll never see the actual resolution, at very least not in the form Sel initially planned.
>>587054451I don't think there's any point saying shit like when you have no real basis for it other than speculation in your own head.
>>587054651if he's going on medication, it will probably change his thoughts. i just hope he doesn't getting brainwashed into thinking his life's work is some sort of intolerable creation.
>>587055552it's adhd medication dude, those are mostly just stimulants
>>587055552Yeah, this counts as "baseless speculation" in my book, sorry. You literally do not know shit about whatever his situation is, least of all what's going on in his fucking head. Get a grip.
>>587055736It's not baseless, psychiatric medication is designed to change the contents of your mind. But I won't argue further. I like Seb, I like LiL. I wish him the best.
>>587055930I know you said you aren't going to argue more, but honestly I think the idea of going around spewing stuff about how "there's a solid chance he won't finish the story how he intended anymore" based on something like this is insulting.
>>587035859>>587040573The bottle was empty well before the replies came in and I'm beginning to suspect you drank it all, you bastard. That was a strange direction and you're forgetting two key things. 1) Sensei isn't gay, and 2) Sensei isn't an only child.
I think the "intentions" for LiL may change by the year anyway, just by a consequence of how long it's taking and the natural erosion of the human spirit. As far as I remember the concept for 0.53 literally came to him in a dream and significantly shaped the plot. This is just how gardener-style writing works really. My attitude is the same as it will be for any long-running work; I just hope each new release is good, irrespective of all else.
>>587055552I don't think you understand how stimulants or medication in general works. Stims don't suddenly change your way of thinking if they're meant for you. They just help you focus up and block out some noise. You're still the same jackass with the same jackass thoughts on them and it's entirely possible to still have multi-month mental breakdowns. If there's any danger to the story, it's not from those.
>>587056715You're arguing with more than one anon, I know it gets confusing. Bad habit of mine to jump into discussions. If he's got a plan, I'd say there's a high likelihood he'll finish. If he's winging it, who knows.
>>587056964Authors do change their voice and style with time, typically they become better, and sometimes they become radically different. A perfect example would be Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty series, originally a trilogy full of raunchy, no-holds-barred sex between slave teenagers and their adult masters. It's cover-to-cover smut. Then a few decades later she wrote a fourth, that is super light on the smut and a repudiation of the original books. I can only assume her values changes, which is a shame. It happens.
>>587056964>>587057282There are parts of it that are planned and parts of it that aren't. Rereading it made it pretty obvious just how much of it was planned, or at least put into place relatively early.
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>>587057265Unfortunately I never got to try stimulants. Weed is my go-to. I snorted barbituates once, that was really boring, I kept nodding off in a Denny's. I smoked heroic once; 20 minutes of euphoria and then puking into a public bathroom.Strongest shit I've had on the other side is coffee. I wish I could get some ritalin.
I will hold off on any opinion about LiL "changing" until I see the next set of events for best girl. The recent requests that just went up make me think it will be fine, though.
>>587058823>heroiclolheroin(e)
>>587056850 those answers are fueled by staying up until almost 4 in the morning watching those happy events for three hours. This is literally me being awake for less than 10 minutes. So trampling flowers isnt about Yuu then? It cant be Nozumo since he didn't kill himself by hanging a car accident did that.
>>587057890Fertility goddessIn the ancient world they were also the gods of the harvest, or in Tsuneyo's case, noodles.
>>587062005Thinking about the guy who said this was the only sexy shot he had seen in LiL
>>587062802One of those *shudder* marriage perverts.
>>587062802>>587063167
>>587063247Now this is a sexy shot.
Bet you thought there was a spoiler here.
>>587063247Can you play through the whole game with these loli characters, or is it only endgame stuff.
>>587060034The line about hanging himself is more than likely just noise.It's also worth noting that Yuu probably isn't gay either or that malicious of a person, which leaves one suspect in his house that fits the bill. Couple that with the "introduction" of the first god around the first reset, as well as what "light" even means and... ye.Our boy had a rather troubled childhood.It's commendable that you'd spend so much time checking and double checking, though. Now, if you will excuse me, I need to spend the day dissociating something awful and will likely be doing that in minecraft.
>>587063762It might show some of their younger versions in flashbacks. There are non-canon loli H-scenes for some of the heroines in bonus scenes and in the care packages (don't read the care packages until you've finished Chapter 3 at least).
>>587063762Every character has a loli, teen, and adult model to be used when the story calls for it. Subscribers can request characters to be posed in certain positions using their loli or adult model which is why they show up in so many renders. You can't play through the whole game with them but they may appear at any moment depending on story progress or context.
>>587064137
>>587064137wooooosh
>>587064137Might want to delete this post, despite it being wrong. I'm not following whatever your conversation is but I can tell you that.
>>587064590Is that teen Sara or adult Sana?That reminds me, is there a loli Sara render?
>>587064590So small... IMAGINE...
>>587065075That is the loli Sara model.
>>587065579Is there a comparison of Sara models?Speaking of which, I wonder if loli Sana and teen Sana are pretty much the same.
>>587065489Canonically has a massive fetish for much older adult men, too.
>>587066212They're not the same
>>587066794Loli Miku and Loli Sana... my dick wouldn't survive.
Good CG upgrade here
Interesting... I was not sure about what was happening in the story because of the room with clocks scene... Like, the MC tries to visit a room, craziest shit happens, and then he is just... Back on his room? Only to be met by Ami going down on it. The point is... It felt like the MC did not wonder too much about the crazy shit just happened. Until now. Maya just asked about weird shit, and the MC finally discussed the room and referred to it as weird dreams. That said, my new confusion is about the MC forcing himself on Yumi, I am not sure if this teacher guy is fine.More important: I am saving the game on choice moments... Do the choices have huge implications on the development? It is still very early on the game, but I would like to know.
>>587069209>SavesWorth having for whatever reason, but remember that if the game hints, suggests, or TELLS you to save, fucking do it.>ChoicesThe minute choices might matter in that it changes dialogue later. The bigger choices, and you'll know which, have very far reaching implications and it's frankly not worth keeping a save just to go back and change that choice because of the sheer distance between points A and B>I am not sure if this teacher guy is fine.Welcome to the show.
>>587069209You're using the guide mod, right? On the hints page it will have a red (!) warning next to certain events, indicating that they have choices that can lock you out of content, or that they need to be done in a certain order to avoid that, or something that extent. You can click the (!) and it will give you details. Not every choice matters.
Can't remember if the posters of almost-best girl were this visible before.
>>587069740Ok, will keep that in mind.>>587069979I see, thank you. I am using the mod, yes.
>>587071143>I see, thank you. I am using the mod, yes.I recommend doing it whatever it says with anything that has a warning on it about missing events. The game is designed so you can see every event in a single playthrough, so there aren't any events that are mutually exclusive where you have to pick one or the other. Some of the choices that cause this have very far-reaching effects as well, and can lock you out of stuff way later in the game, including with other characters than whoever the choice was originally about.
>>587067479>>587068535Seb fuckin loves his Dutch angles. So many of the shots are like this. Were the older CGs more flat?
>>587073279Other than composition changes, I recall him saying the main thing he got better at was lighting, and it seems like that does make a substantial difference with Koikatsu stuff.
>>587063817 so Nozomu was an abusive, but not sexually, and just would beat Akira
>>587074669porque no los dos
>>587074821 ok so Nozomu was sexually AND physically abusive. And sense Akira and Sekai found comfort with each other....Nozomu abused Sekai as well which pushed her to Akira since they both experienced the same pain?
>>587075143It's a lot closer than you were before and it's at this point I'd say to take that knowledge forward.
>>587075143I'm not whoever you are talking to, but I'm fairly sure there's nothing that insinuates that Nozomu engaged in sexual abuse towards Akira. I don't know how far either of you are into the game, but there is a scene that specifically talks about this and there isn't any sexual abuse mentioned. I think you should just keep reading rather trying to figure it by talking to someone who is being obtuse with you.
>>587075143Also going back through your discussion I see a bunch of other stuff that is just wrong. Chill out and just read the game.
>>587077442Yeah I'll do that instead of jumping the gun so much...[C3] anyways...."years to come" when the school year is a year long. I think she knows
Is this the apartment complex? That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
That's a lot of times to thank someone. Smells like a hoax to me.
Unless I am just forgetting something, I don't recall this being brought up again, i.e. the reason that Rin and Futaba went to this high school instead of the other one. Of course all three girls with a UDH connection are from the same area and have known each other for years.
>>587078235[C3] oh Kaori....if you only knew. Maya being ignored was funny. But what's waking up? Spring? Its noted cooler than summer after the reset and its raining now. Each season has their own god so a new god comes too I guess.
>>587082125(cont.) Maybe I don't remember it because it was something minor and connected to Futaba having bulimia in middle school which was something that was brought up recently. I dunno. She still has one event left in Chapter 1 so maybe it'll come up there.
Twas on a Holy Thursday their innocent faces cleanThe children walking two & two in red & blue & greenGrey headed beadles walkd before, with wands as white as snowTill into the high dome of Pauls they like Thames waters flowO what a multitude they seemd these flowers of London townSeated in companies they sit with radiance all their ownThe hum of multitudes was there but multitudes of lambsThousands of little boys & girls raising their innocent handsNow like a mighty wind they raise to heaven the voice of songOr like harmonious thunderings the seats of heaven amongBeneath them sit the aged men wise guardians of the poorThen cherish pity, lest you drive an angel from your door
One day I will fuck you...
>>587083884Note the lyrics of the song she's singing and consider where they may come from
Gee I wonder what that could be referring to.
>>587084070Yeah, I did. Pretty neat seeing how much stuff is set up so early on.
The most sexual haircut.
I really prefer Otoha's Chapter 4 design to this one.
>>587080479could always be the mall
>>587087969IIRC the mall just gets closed for "renovations" and that hasn't happened yet. The apartment complex is the only new structure I can think of, unless I'm misremembering.
>>587088219I think its the amusement park
>>587088497Could be, I can't remember whether that's a new construction or not. I do have a vague memory of Sensei thinking the apartment complex is in a part of town he's not familiar with, like when he needs to leave from it the first time, which would conflict with the construction being somewhere around the cafe.
>>587078235She could just be implying that she expects Touka and Tsukasa to keep him around.
>>587098383sex
>>587098383
I just conquered my first point of lust. Did not know this game had animations.
>>587107083that was a surprise. they're not very good though. just short loops. i honestly prefer the static CG compositions.
So, the happy events are... unexplained psychodelic brain fuck stuff? However, the main events also can be fucked up?
>>587110289Who the fuck knows. Happy events could be a lot of different things. Sensei, as you can probably tell, isn't the most mentally sound person, but nothing is as it seems.
>>587110289happy events are pure brain melt shit, but his psychosis also manifests at random times.
>>587110929>>587111191I see... Also, you guys wouldn't know what the formula for slope intercept form is, would you? Fuck me...
>>587111747y = mx + b
>>587111747i barely made it through algebra 1.you can scroll up to go back and choose different answers. none of it matters, it's another false choice.
>>587110289 some give insight to his fucked up mental state, repressed thoughts and memories. Others are the influence of the gods
>>587111747>>587112000Small tip, just in case, there is at least one event where rollback is disabled, so always save before an important event.
>>587128452Never mind, I like large chests.
>>587082515 this is not how an actual mother acts. They dont somewhat encourage older men to try and fuck their teenage daughter. The fuck is wrong with this woman. How deep did she dive into that trench and what dark secrets did this woman learn if she had to mention Tsukasa is not to be touched also?
>>587131181
>>587117479Which one was that
>>587131181>The fuck is wrong with this womanThis has been asked by literally everyone who has interacted with her.Mother of the year
>>587131181It's easy to accidentally red route Tsukasa later so make sure you pay attention to the guide mod if you get any choices involving her. Also you need to have gone into the bathroom when Chinami was taking a bath in chapter 2.
>>587132737Please remain here forever
>>587131181 ok ms Sekai 2.0. This is basically grooming. OFFICER RIGHT OVER HERE
>>587135589What surprises me is that the other member of her trio didn't end up fucked in the head in that particular way.
>>587135670[C4]I initially was thinking Yuki was talking about Sekai teaching her English. What a strange fucking combo. However, Tsubasa is the only one that's not technically a source of trauma or abuse. Yet.
>>587135589You haven't seen anything yet in this regard lol
>>587137915it just can't be a coincidence
>>587135589[C3] silly me. Forgetting chapter brackets in past posts. Gomen nasai despacito amigos. I take it she remembers the events and how she got passed the wall or does she mean that place she and Akira ended up at were UNDER Cum On Me. Cum On Me....Kumon-mi silly autocorrect. Anways seems like Nodoka has this feeling she feels alone with just how smart she is and wishes her friends were up there with her intelligence or vise versa
>>587138221Honestly, as much as I'd like to read into that line, it probably is just a coincidence since you learn the origin of the orgasmic headpat later and Sara seems to have just been talking about normal headpatting.
>>587138702Kino event incoming.
>>587139226>>587138702[C3]oh look. Another fucking reason to think Nodoka it as irredeemable as Akira by profiting off their hardships. And I 100% expect she wrote about her blackmail attempt with Yumi. god..God...HOPE whatever i want throw her into a woodchipper sometimes
[C4] Can you at least put up a mild token resistance? Please? I get that HOPE's horny-horny-no-jitsu is strong, but this is on so many levels of not the time or place. His levels of selective blindness regarding anything to do with the Church of First Light is fucking infurating. Even if you don't remember the visions, even if you don't remember the voices, everything about this place causes your body to scream at you to run for the fucking hills every time you're here and you. do. this.Fuck it. Rot in the hell of T23 until the end of time. You've fucking earned it, Akira. May your heart break every second of that eternity for your lack of spine.
>>587140146[C3]She really is the fucking worst, isn't she. But... Maybe she has her reasons...Or maybe she's just a fucking demon pretending to be human. There's a lot of those lately.
>>587140559Nodoka is a normal teenage girl.
>>587140146 hehehehebe.....Rin got the Tacos....Otoha got the burger......guess we know what Otoha really wants to eat. And Nodoka....hehehehehehe...she likes filling. So HOPeful i think with that one
[C4]I thought the text at the beginning was fucking weird, but did Perry hitch a ride with Nodoka or something and become a voice in the back of her head?
>>587141627[C3] Was Nodokas's character she was talking about another person that was sexually abused? The background poem seemed to be about grief, this character missed Yuko who i assume is dead. We know she likes to write about other people's lives and I haven't seen that yet so if it couldn't be a another dorm student...is it her mom she talking about?>>587143414FLAVOR........BEAM
>>587143574The stuff with Nodoka is rather obscure and related to the Upside Down House. I don't know if you know about this, but there's a Twitter account that functions as an ARG thing that's supposed to be ran by her mother. You should go through that at some point:https://x.com/AreYouHappyHere
I love Uta
[C4]This everything resembling chapter 1 as well as the "Market Research" points to Scientific Research which is another Chika-centric event and one of the first sightings of Himawari. Which while this could be Himawari herself influencing her own past actions by making Sensei more and more aware of her (or just getting herself to like him more), it's also possible that Perry or whoever is attached to this event is giving Himawari a cosmic "I see you."But in her latest secret event, it's also implied that Ayane's scarf that she bought was the physically same one Sensei would buy years earlier, showing at the very least that anything we see Himawari in probably isn't linear and that her talk with Tsubasa could have very well happened relative to her before Himawari takes any sort of proactive actions like asking Ayane for her scarf. But yadda yadda bootstrap parodox. However, it's entirely plausible that the rules surrounding her have NOTHING to do with whether people are allowed to know about her, and everything to do with ensuring that her relative-future actions don't affect her relative past that could happen later down the line.In her logic, she exists because things worked out. They wouldn't work out if she did everything as she was supposed to and now they have to work out with her interference.Which brings us back to this.It seems unlikely that she'd interfere with her past self as she clearly was surprised at Sensei's appearance, which makes it seem more likely that SOMETHING is running interference of it's own and the entire point of that secret scene on the beach is to shine a light on the rat scurrying in the shadows.
I would consider this the first warning that you actually have to fuck everyone.
>>587144497>>587143789[C4]Which comes to this bag of fun and the pending question of who is dragging Long Maya and Moyo around, who is operating the Happy Scenes/UCS, and what their actual relation to Himawari is.My best guess is that the Happy Scenes (or some of them) are meant to be a subliminal imprinting system and Himawari agreed to be added as a familial ingredient. But whoever is in control of it, if anyone is, is using it with a lot more malice than intended, setting the damn thing to "brain soup" mode, which is not only not how things are supposed to play out, but is clearly harming him in ways it was never meant to. Leading her, after saying her name, to decide on going a little rogue against the Shiawase Group.It's also worth noting that Tojo has, at several points, run similar interferences and has been shut out again and again, but it's unclear if he's assisting her, or to what end.Which brings me to my story analysis following hands down THE BEST h-scene in the game yet with Meowri. The analysis is thus: there's nothing to understand. The situation is fucked beyond measure with so many different players vying for their desired outcome. What "should be" has spiraled so far out of control that there's absolutely no way to correct course and that all there is to do is either enjoy the disaster, or find some way to escape. After her guest appearance on UCS, I think she finally understood just how fucked the situation actually was.
Regarding my screenshot: one thing I've wondered about was the cause of the other school collapsing into a sinkhole. Given that this occurs at the start of winter, which is Wires' season, I'm inclined that's related to this.>>587145469There's a bonus version of that H-scene but with Nao-chan on the computer if you put it in the wizard mode cheat. Anyway, you're going to get some very concrete information on a lot of this stuff soon.
Good God Sara is so fucking hot
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>>587143789OK that's a thing to look at over BBQ breakfast leftovers>>587143574[C3]Shit. Didnt think Sekai would appear and reinforce that Nodoka a fucking predator/fucked up person just like him. They're both trash, they know it, and they don't think about they deserve to be happy, and she makes him feel safe embracing the trash that he is that fucking happy music transition
>>587146131>There's a bonus version of that H-scene[C4]I was on it the second Sensei Quest loaded in. BUT, it doesn't compare, honestly. That one-on-one with Kaori being driven into an estrus frenzy by the lingering love of the woman possessing her and riding the dick of the ghost's one true love while he tries to make sense of his actual feelings on the matter rather than just enjoying the ride is fucking peak smut.>>587146468[C3]In case it's lost on you, Sekai's mentality is quite literally that man and monster are inseparable and that monsters should be monsters, and not be seen as any different than man. It's one interpretation of "to thine own self be true" where any and all possible horrors you could desire should be yours to claim. You can see it in her actions, her words, and her "advice" to Sensei. It's about far more than pleasure.You should also have seen this clearly during the Yumi incident with Nodoka's desire to write tragedies in the real world. She's aware that she's inherently monstrous and the few thrills she can get comes from acting on such things. In this way, it could be said she's becoming the Crimson Cunt's successor.But tell me, did your PERCEPTION catch her pseudonym's initials?
>>587146808 S.A....feels like Sexual Abuse or the more obvious Sekai Arakawa.
>>587147013Most likely the latter.
>>587146808I think you're being too hard on Nodoka and that's not the direction her character arc is going in.
>>587146182Hey that is my wife you're talking about
>>587147136I'm being nice by not suggesting that she quickly be put out of the world's misery. Regardless of who she might become with some guidance and NDEs, that's who she was in that moment and her infatuation stems from more than just her bouts with seeming-psychosis.
>>587147013both wrong. it's the names of 2 udh characters
[C4]STOP STICKING YOUR HEAD IN THE SANDRED GIRLSRED FLAGSRIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR LUCID ASS
>>587147648That scene is fucking great if you're not on the moralfag route.
One commonly underappreciated fact about LiL is how cute Ami is.
>>587152931so much this
What's great about Ami is that not only is she the cutest and nicest and sweetest heroine but also the best heroine in general.
>>587152931Ami is for licking*licklicklicklicklick*
smol
>>587157937Ami understands girls are most cute when they're retarded.
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>>587158254>>587158434Damn Makoto gets spicy. I don't know if I like this side of her.
>>587158535Makoto is just competitive.
>>587158983Savage...
>>587158535How far are you into the game at this point?
>>587159702I've barely played in the last several days.
>>587160831Well I'm not very far ahead of you. You should read it some more rather than just letting me spoil random stuff.
Same here. There should be some interaction with her and Touka over this at some point.Funny that one of Sana's favorite movies is Saw, though.
>>587170149If she hasn't seen Martyrs, she hasn't seen horror movies.
>>587170149>I will never watch scary moves with SanaI have to kill myself NOW.
Yo came here thanks to the pic op used.(I love choco girls, sex with Karin)Is the story fun or only the sex scene are worth it?Another question I looked at F95 and saw the "care packages" any idea what that might be?
>>587170949>Is the story fun or only the sex scene are worth it?While there's a lot of sex in the game, it's very story and character focused (and also funny).>Another question I looked at F95 and saw the "care packages" any idea what that might be?They're DLC for the game that have non-canon bonus content. It's not something you need to worry about until you've read a substantial portion of the game since they have spoilers in them. If you want to try the game the main thing you need to get is the guide mod that's linked in the OP.
>>587170790She has seen Shrek at least.
>>587171234Noted, guess I'll give it a try then thanks anon.
>>587171402Also, picrel regarding donkeys (Ch. 4 spoilers)
>>587170949Yeah the story is great fun. Choco girl is a great stand up comedian.
>>587171410No problem. I don't know if you're familiar with VNs or not, but this one is more complicated than normal ones, hence the need for the mod (it doesn't change any content in the game, just adds a sort of walkthrough-like feature to it). If you get past the intro stuff and have any questions about how the game works this thread is pretty helpful with everything.
>>587171981Oh yeah I've been reading VNs since I was in high school.I'm pretty familiar be it the mods or the ren'py engine.
>>587172109Cool, you probably won't have any trouble then
It's kind of funny how, at least for most people I think, when you read this the first time you just brush off all kinds of shit like this and don't pay much attention to it because the game successfully makes misjudge Sensei as a sort of "blank slate" character at first.
>>587176642>>587177279Forgot my tripcode. Anyway, that last Makoto invite clears everything before Halloween. I'll be able to get through that tonight, thankfully. As much as I do like Chapter 1, I'm ready to get on with the show.
WHY MY PURE FUTURE WIFE ACTING LIKE A WHORE??? THIS GAME IS FUCKED UP BEYOND BELIEFS.
>>587181595>MY PURE FUTURE WIFE
>>587183053Would you eat her ass? Otherwise you're not man enough for her.
>>587111191Have you cleared chp 1 yet?
>>587185371Who wouldn't?
>>587185371Of course
>>587185792Nope, set the game aside for a little while. Was getting bored. The beach trip was peak.>>587186007Initiating Miku into the pleasures of rimming.
>>587193547Miku owes me
>>587170949>Another question I looked at F95 and saw the "care packages" any idea what that might be?They're called Care Packages (CP) because they contain the pedo stuff that got the game banned in the first placeFun fact, people started sharing them on f95 and this caused Selebus to have an actual mental breakdown. He then ordered his Discord server to start raiding the LiL thread on f95 in order to punish the site and (somehow) get people to stop looking at that thread.That's why all those pedos are here now instead.
>>587199264This post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
>>587147909My favorite aspect of his playthrough is your seething about him not fucking Ami. It's just so funny
>>587201703Pretty sure I've seen that anon repost the same thing with slight variations over the months. Funny guy.
>>587201703NTA, but from a bit before that, Sel believed that having the game in F95 was somehow costing him money. So, when the Care Packages started getting shared there too, he decided that, since the rules of the site forbid loli addons, he would add explicit loli content to the next Care Package.When that one got leaked, yet the game was still allowed there, foiling his masterplan, Sel complained about the mods. Bitchfits were had, Sel discord sycophants started brigading, and the end result was such a shitshow in that thread that the mods decided to ban Sel, delist the thread, and pretty much made the thread immune to deletion to spite Sel's attempts of getting the thread deleted.
>>587201703Do people actually do that? Go online and post nonsense?>>587202902How did Sel miss all the research vis a vis piracy? He's old enough to remember Napster. it's been proved more than once that piracy does not impact sales negatively. if anything, piracy gets more people to buy because they can evaluate the thing before making a purchase. the people who don't buy were never going to buy. the people who buy after pirating were persuaded on the merits.
>>587203062>How did Sel miss all the research vis a vis piracy?He posted the thread on f95 to promote the game, it's arguably how it ever took off in the first place (Along with collabing with other koikatsu games like HHG and OoT)He started genuinely losing his mind after Patreon told him to axe the incest, and so he made a fake version of the game that had a joke script and then a real version with nothing changed.Patreon didn't buy it and just banned him outright for it. That's when he really started going downhill.
>>587202902The part about the rules is interesting. So the mods just make exceptions out of spite?
>>587203062>>587203358Also he tried to make DRM for Ren'py in order to combat piracy of LiL, and then purposefully leaked an infected version of LiL to f95 that would delete the game and your saves if you ran it.Enjoy the game as much as you want, but the guy is a complete shitbag who despises his fans
>>587203601>and then purposefully leaked an infected version of LiL to f95That's kinda funny, actually.
>>587203601Honestly I think it's funny how much you resent someone yet can't stop consuming their content
>>587203739Between that and having his Discord brigade trying to dox f95 staff, I hope you can see why he gets bullied as hard as he doesHe's a lolcow trainwreck and it's amazing it took this long for him to finally quit
>>587203937i don't think seething about him on anonymous imageboards counts as "bullying"
>>587203929>Honestly I think it's funny how much you resent someone yet can't stop consuming their contentHi SelResent not really, not nearly as much since LiL started tankingConsume no. Not for yearsApparently this is news to guys just starting the game here, so they deserve to know the truth
>>587204098>i don't think seething about him on anonymous imageboards counts as "bullying"You know that the LiLcord got nuked this year because he pissed off his Russian translators rightThe guy has gotten chased off of every platform he's been on except Subscribestar
>>587203937>>587204173Find something better to do with your evening.>But Sel was a FAGGOTDon't care. If he does it again, I'll point and laugh, but I don't care past or prior to that.
>>587204173I don't know, I'm interested in the game, not what he says or does outside of it. If anything, this reflects worse on you than it does on him, ironically. You could probably use a cup of tea or something to help you relax.
>>587202902>loli scenes would have never been added if it weren't for f95Ironic isn't it?
>>587204431Considering the game is literally just Sel talking to himself about how he can't get over his attraction to children and how he molested a family member of his, yeah I think bringing up Sel in a LiL thread is completely justified
>>587204559I mean if you were doing anything other than dramawhoring, I'd probably agree, but you're coming off more like a crybaby than anything.When you start saying shit like "people should know all about this shit that happened years ago, it's relevant to the story!" and then doing this, nobody is ever going to take you seriously and even less people are going to care about it.
>>587146468[C3]Tap screen mouse friends on screen image, use arm feet to see big cock!
>>587203358i knew Patreon had done him dirty when this scene happened
>>587204173I don't really give a shit about the drama. I judge a story on the merits. Loli persecution is real, if he got shit on because he likes loli that just makes me sympathetic to him.
>>587208887Did that event happen before or after visa and mastercard started boycotting anything that contained 'problematic' material? fucking censorship
>>587204403calling porn censorship getting "chased off" just shows you're a disingenuous dramafag
>>587208847See this is what I hate about porn games. Every single fucking one of them just throws in a massive cock like it's nothing and then everyone gets disappointed because COCKS AREN'T THAT BIG IN THE REAL WORLD
>>587209835So am I friendburger. So am i.....>>587208847[C3] Sekai....can take her over like that? Usually the possession of others leaves their eyes blank. Is it due to having different eye colors? I know theres some sort of connection she has to things....the spider tattoo, the spiders in a circle in Sana's room, the spider in that one happy event.
>>587211127 forgot to spoiler image.
>>587211289Sekaori...
>>587211127[C3] She has Maya's and Sekai's eyes. First thing i noticed. This quote makes sense about Sekai...but Sensei is the one who preyed on Maya...or did she somehow learn of his trauma and play it to prey on him? Or is it meant to remind him what he did? oh and there's another one of those FUCKING BUNNIES
>>587214113Maya's situation is a rather complicated one that any amount of answers to will be too much. Though most interpret Nao's left eye as Ami's. Does the name sound familiar to you?
Broke out the red pens and notebook to write Ami poetry since things are too miserable right now for me to concentrate on non-Ami scenes or read anything unrelated to Ami, and I don't want to just skip half the replay. I hope Sel gets back to developing this game before I die.
>>587214449 oh yeah....Ami exists. I guess this is meant to draw parallels to Maya and Ami and Sensei taking them in. But at least Kaori wont molest her. Which i guess why he feels strange about it all
>>587215083You really can't think of any other reason this is strange than the possibility that a brain damaged girl might molest the midget?
>>587215076how long you got anon
Ok, this is something confusing about the game. This type of dialog is trying to break the fourth wall or something, or hinting the main character is in fact playing some game. It is off-putting, perhaps it is the intention, but it is confusing how the "sensei" character acts at times. Maybe it is just too early, and some of those things will be clear eventually?
>>587215076>Sel gets back to developing this gameWait, it is abandoned/in hiatus or something?
>>587215526The game does break the fourth wall for comedic or schizo purposes. see >>587208887nothing is real
>>587215657he made a blog post about getting therapy and focusing on what matters blah blahexplicitly said development will continue but slow downsome anons think he's preparing to quit.
>>587216298So there is some implication that, to develop a schizo game, one needs to be a schizo... So therapy would end the creator's drive of developing such a schizo world... Is that it?
>>587216478well, do you believe a normal person would make this game? i've had some weird thoughts but nothing as fucked up as the room of clocks. that seems borne of madness.
>>587215526i'll just say that everyone misunderstands this at first
>>587215272 Well she has the same name of the character from the wishing well Nao. Kaori's lonely and wated someone to love...and she came out of nowhere for her to take in. It mimics Akira with Maya. And no one knows where she came from. Is Maya connected to Nao? The last post was worded wrong fornwhay ibwas trying to convey really. Since Nao means honest its going to be actual honest love instead of what Sensei did
>>587216780Define normal>>587217252[C3]Well, I'm not so sure how burning Kaori's wish was, at least as far as to have a fuckin child delivered. Honestly, it struck me more as someone trying to keep an eye on her, given the previous Nao's self-proclaimed watcher status.
>>587219816the room with clocks is not normali cannot define normal, normal is the absence of the abnormal.
>>587220173>Normal is the absence of the abnormal
>>587220516yes
>>587204539Late, but nah, wizard content was always going to eventually get added, Sel just went full loli in that Care Package to bitch about the game not being banned.>>587203380Well, recently the literal admin of the site pretty much personally unbanned a game and its dev, who was from the old days, that had been recently banned due to the incest and loli rules (game was 3D, so loli-ish).
>>587220585No, you stupid fucking ape.Ab- as a prefix explicitly means "off", "not", or "separate".You can't just say "Normal is the absence of things that aren't normal". That's a circular definition.
>>587216780>that seems borne of madnessIn the commentary of the final reset of Chapter 3, he explicitly said he rented a m(h?)otel room so he could go full schizo over the course of 5 days to write the event. And it shows, pic related is very much the ramblings of a mind in need of help.
>>587170949called it >>586873828
>>587215486I have no clue, I just know I'm getting older and my brain doesn't work as well as it used to and everyone else around me is dead or dying so why not me next?
>>587220516My friendburger.....what you see as normal and what someone else sees as normal is all a matter of perception
>>587224262Such is the point.
>>587216780ADHD makes a nigga crazy wow truly amazing
>>587225192I don't think mere ADHD is what makes LiL tick.
>>587170949>the sex scene are worth itHorny brain shuts off before the end of chapter 1 for me. BUTTER UP BUTTERCUP YOU'RE IN FOR A RIDE
>>587193547The beach scene was so good everything after bored this new reader...
>>587219816 I'll just see it as killing two birds with one stone with Nao-chan. I wasn't thinking it was literal Nao being a watcher and more of Nao just being blantant showing they can influence the world like this. But now that I think about it. Maybe Nao was the one making the outburst through Kaori and not Sekai. Maybe there's something else they had to find too besides Nao-chan and Nao called it quits for now with that other thing
>>587215083[C3] while I do have issues liking Ami I feel for her. She lost her entire world in the car accident, did everything she could to keep the one thing she had left connected to it, and gets dumped on basically alluding to growing more as a person and moving on
>>587193547>Was getting bored. The beach trip was peak.Well if it helps, I can assure you that is absolutely not the peak of the game, at all, in any way.
>>587237791[C3]So Ami wasn't lying last event? She can read his thoughts? Why does Akira acknowledge it like it's not fucked up that's happening....well I guess can't really blame Akira since HOPE was clearly running things/hitching a ride for a moment there. Also she didnt fucking change the subject. She just laughed it off. They don't do that. She fucking knows. well thats enough for today. Im going to collapse onto my bed now. VNs about teenagers are exhausting. I should get some sleep before work tomorrow.
>>587193547>The beach trip was peak.You have NOT seen PEAK yet. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho.
>>587242097I kind of get where he's coming from because after you get out of some of the special events and it goes back to normal(ish), there can kind of seem like there's a lull in things. But yeah, thinking that Beach 1 is some high point of the game is definitely wrong. It's good, sure, but it's not anything on the level of what the game gets to later.
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>>587241542>>587242097i'll pick it up again but i can't play if i don't feel the burn. otherwise i am just watching scenes without understanding them.
>>587254438Fair enough. Just know that Chapter 1 is kind of like a... long introduction or something.
>>587257337New CGs in this event by the way. Here's the original version.
>>587257337>>587257462i love how chickens always look mildly shocked and dismayed. lol.
Double meaning, if you know.
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>>587259428i've seen dolphin vagit looks pretty nice
You haven't seen the true terror you have to compete with yet...
>>587260706Nihilistic dreck.
>>587261039Do you think it's telling you to feel that way instead of exploring the character's mindset?
>>587261348i'm one of the new anons but that was purely nihilistic. the stars are beautiful.which is fine, sensei does not need to be a perfect person or right about everything, or anything. that's good characterization. sensei is a deeply flawed isekai protagonist.
>>587261697I'm not sure it's purely nihilistic when he's acknowledging the existence of an underlying beauty beneath things while saying that. Either way, though, he's a much more singular character than the game wants you to think at first.
>>587262018sensei contains multitudes, is what you're saying i think
>>587262718I think this is kind of a spoiler, but it's something I've told people when recommending the game to them anyway, so without mentioning any specific details, he's very (very) much his own unique character and not at all some kind of blank-slate protagonist that just wants to fuck teenagers. The game just wants you to think that way for a while.
>>587263541sana in a slutty nurse outfit.... holy fuck.i would honestly give up lolis for her. you have no idea what a huge sacrifice that would be.
>>587263795SARA* fuck
