Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9715 - Best Destructix Edition==NEWS==>Discord server launched 5 October 2026discord.gg/SonicOfficial>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>586894771
Wish I may, wish I mightBe someone else tonightSometimes I wish I was never born at allAnd I'll try to save the world'Cause in the end I knowI'm the chosen one
>>586927778You know what dude you made me look these fucking guys up and no, he literally looks like the worst one tied with the Dawg guy
>>586927778Can you post porn of Drago and Lupe
Maria simulator
Another fucking drago thread, two nights in a row?
>>586928165Dragofag is getting too cocky
>Be Shadow>Ready to dust these fools>But wait, what would Maria want me to do...
cnc
Epic and Canon
>>586928176>randomly racing Charmy>"grrr... Maria's wish...">somehow this is good writing
Which Sonic male would make an attractive trans girl and which Sonic male would date them while claiming its straight
SonrugeShadougeAmy dies alone and friendless
>>586926684I thought it was..fine. A lot of people dislike that the GUN soldiers and Black Arms don't stop attacking you if you select their mission (though the former don't in Mario flashbacks and I think Westopolis) but that would've let you cheese the enemies too much with the freeflowing structure. Besides, they know you're a liability and can turn on them. The missions that really suck are the "get all the enemies" ones.
I really think the issue is /sthg/ takes things Shadow's story too literally. Sonic Team isn't operating on the same overly literal wavelength as the people who believe following Maria and Gerald's wish of hope isn't living for himself. He was born to be hope, not someone else's tool. That's the truth he finds.
glass
>>586928291Clearly you're never been LOVED in your life CHUD
>>586928291yes the subtler japanese version is better we know westshit is bad
>>586928330>Mario flashbacks
>>586928172who?
Personally I wanna frot with Tails
>>586928176>>586928291>>586928387I'm happy that Iizuka cares about Shadow and protects Shadow from people like you.
>>586928330I really like how you can beat the neutral missions insanely quickly by using the heal gun
>>586928339And yet for a decade and a half he was being the hope without the tool part until movie synergy
>>586928457Twisting Movie synergy to our agenda sure tastes good
>>586928457Well yume money is important after all.
>>586928501>>586928534Maria never used him as a tool though. Is that really what you got out of SA2's story? That Shadow's true memory was him being a tool?
>>586928501>hopeuh oh
>>586928501>>586928534>>586928541Sonic Team mentions Maria constantly from 2005 - 2024, repeatedly, every single year, on Sonic Channel's staff comments section.
>>586928551No but continue with the disingenous question framing it makes me respond faster
>>586928339That's not the issue. The issue is you are a rabid Shadria shipper who will force things to fit your goodfeels imagination of their relationship at the cost of characterization and writing.
>>586928639Yes and I am so glad they did that instead of putting it in the games they made. Really showed me!
I want to hold Shadow tight and kiss his head as he fills me with his seed
>>586928671What is your ideal take on Shadow?
>>586928639That's funny, I don't remember asking.
>>586928734>will proceed to say that this Shadow was definitely totally in service to Maria'swishdow all along!Game over
>>586927976he’s a wolf so he’s automatically the best>>586928035https://files.catbox.moe/1z8xdu.pngsadly there isn’t a lot>>586928172my bad…
>>586928172He destroyed the record you were setting..and for some reason, this thread smells of..apricots?Clearly he must be stopped...
I am entirely convinced now that either some SOA employee whispered in the ears of Sonic Team or Sonic Team caught on themselves. The glasses theory was real, but the backlash against Silver and Blaze increasing made them throw it away for deniability. It was consistent until people start making noise over those two.The drawanon that keep ranting about ships in here isn't wrong that Silver and Blaze are going to be discreetly separated, but I think it's a mistake to believe Sonic Team/SOJ isn't already compromised by this.It's odd that Blaze never showed up in Sonic and Friends even though those trifecta plushies teased her. Even Jet who got teased after her, showed up in animation while she hasn't. My theory is that the did have her lined up, but they had planned a bunch of cutesy Silvaze tiktoks like the ones where we see Knuckles and Rouge dancing, but they know it would have contributed to the ongoing anger (and evidence) of Blaze only existing for Silver. Sonic Rumble is doing an 06 celebration with Silver and Mephiles as the top promoted characters, but Blaze is entirely absent. I believe had this event happened a year ago, they would have made it be Silver, Blaze and Mephiles, but now they can't do that without fan anger. I think Pico Park and other marketing assets from last year might be part of the last remnants we see of Silver and Blaze being paired in projects. We will get Silver while Blaze stays unused until they figure out what to do with her.
>>586928796I really want to know.
>>586928734
Few things hit you as hard as having disposable income and nothing you want to spend it on.
>>586928808Not bad. you're alright Dragofag. You should comm or gen (or draw?) some more yourself
>>586928656>>586928671You don't understand Shadow. Or, more accurately, you won't understand Shadow. His story from 2001 until this day makes you very angry. You will never get your way. You will be permanently dissatisfied by the way Shadow's character is written by Sonic Team. You will have to rely on fan content to get your fix for the rest of this franchise's lifespan. I like Shadow, so I'm happy.
>>586928848What glasses theory
>>586928873What are your thoughts on Boom, Paramount, and Archie Shadow?
>>586928965Yes yes pretend like you didn't believe the move on argument yourself until the movie synergy flipped the switch and you got Muhriadow back
>>586928873Shadow taking the limiters off in his 06 ending is the equivalent of Sonic's fucking speed sections.
>>586929157Darn, we're not gonna make it. Let's speed up!It's not a bad read, they're both 'going all out'/'trying'
>>586928997Females got big circle glasses, males got the narrow glasses. Silver and Blaze were exceptions. Blaze has crossdressing/masculine elements part of her character and her, so this was expected, but had unique implications for Silver. But after that we got Knuckles with the circle glasses and now Cream has the narrow ones. The ones Knuckles got did have a particular style that was still masculine for him, but Cream looks odd in these and the big round ones Amy and Rouge would've looked cuter on her. Someone definitely interfered.
>>586929051Not that person but the idea of Shadow completely moving on from Maria didn't occur to me in any fashion until I saw people discussing it here and one of those Pariah videos. I understand where the conclusion comes from but I don't think it's the only one a person can have. Movie 3 wasn't even announced and I was already under the impression that Shadow was devoted to Maria's wish
>>586928848I am not sure, i only saw like 2 people outside of 4chan that talked about glasses theory
>>586929306This sounds a bit schizo idk
>>586929051Is this your new meme term?I've been saying Shadow lives for Maria's wish since before 2021, because they have the same soul. Her wish is his. Would you like me to pull up old posts proving it?
>>586929006>BoomEw>ArchieDidn't read it>Paramountbretty gud
>cant sleep>need to 'bate>can't 'bate>it's nnn>constructed plans for a time machine to stop nnn>i will make it then go back in time to stop nnn>then i can 'bateon a scale from 1 2 10 r8 how insane i am, bewarned i might make room to prevent you too.
>muh soul>muh feelings>muh astrology>muh hakuna matataMust women really?
>>586928848How would these two be used? silver doesn't have a cast besides SSS and for blaze they won't return to sonic/blaze parallelism due to the backlash that one also gets and they sure are not going to make dedicated games for her in the sol dimension totally unrelated to her.
>>586929746These themes were woven into the franchise by men. Like Maekawa.
>>586929315>>586929459Sega employees have come to these threads, reddit, and now made their own personal discord server. It's more naive to think they hadn't seen it at this point. There were a few qrts on the sonic channel posts about it too. It's not schizo if you look how absent Blaze has become in things that at one point would not hesitate to pair them together.
Remember to fug a hox today
>>586928356Cute!
>>586929575>before 2021And then you smartened up for a second, and then regressed these past two years because of Movie 3
Watching movies with Shadow on the ARK side activity
>>586929972When? Source?
>>586929835Sthg loves overexaggerting how important it is
>>586929835It would be really sad if Blazefags complaining led to Blaze being tucked away because ST values Silver more
>>586929841
I came to this general around 2023 and my entire impression at the time was that Shadow absolutely didn't move on from Maria and that nothing could replace her or even dream with competing with her for him
>>586929785And eaten up endlessly by foids.
"My penis transcends time" ~ Sonic, probably
>>586929835Lol i actually made up the glasses theory.I guess blaze is dead then, because i legitimately don't see sonic team doing something with her that wasn't about them devoloping silvaze, i guess they will be seen again in IDW issue 97 as a last try but Evan will definitely not write something good.Solo silver could work but i dnno what they will do with him without blaze besides SSS
>>586929763Silver doesn't need a cast, being from Sonic's future means he's still accessible in some regard. He's not hopping dimension. He can be part of Sonic's cast with less issue than Blaze which they have been doing with him being on all the merch recently and being the default cast for Sonic x DC and the recent Tailstube. >>586930058Blaze is in a jarring position because taking her away from Silver but not doing anything else with her just makes Sonic Team look autistic. If she is not with Silver, she can not be used at all seems a bit dumb. They could do Sonic and Friends tiktoks with her and Cream or Amy or both. If they don't want to make Marine relevant again or Sonic Rush Adventure, she has the girl power trope options.
Sonic has finally joined Darkstalkers and Mega Man X where their respective companies will do anything but release a new game
>>586930232Well sonic team screwed themselves up by not making sol dimension more linked to sonic's world where if something bad happens she is also invled with her own dimesnion etc. we can rant all we want bt the only reason someone would care about her by herself is if they already like her.
>>586930476I don't think Blaze was ever meant to show up more than she did. The games just got forced into a position where they stopped adding as many major new characters and she was one of the last ones before that happened.
>>586930551She would probably show up more if 06 was liked, and in the recent years hwere 06 is liked more, if silvaze was liked more, the glasses thing is a bit schizo but i believe blaze being absent from other stuff is correct
>>586930661Weird how different Sonic would be if every 2000s game released without a hitch. Imagine the 2010s in a world where Sonic 06 is critically successful.
>>586930390might get Crossworlds when FF7 drops for it
>>586930661>She would probably show up more if 06 was likedIts less this>if silvaze was liked moreMore this.06 being liked more doesn't remove the element of blazefags sperging over her relevance only being 06 and Silver
Silver feels like when you're reading Archie and a canon character is tainted by an OC they revolve around... except Shitnic Team made him
>>586930747>Imagine the 2010s in a world where Sonic 06 is critically successful.It would almost identically be the same as the one we experienced through. 90s Sonic fans on Sega Retro are going to still be pissed that they've been "ignored" since SA1 and demand Sega to appease them. Along with Sega being notoriously known to listen to the vocal minitory, we will still likely get Colors, Mania, Sonic 4: EP 1, etc. Sonic Team would also still be given little to no budget, given Nagoshi.The only difference is that maybe Boom wouldn't happen.
I think we need writers like Evan just to show how far Sega is willing to let the characters change in the comics
Blaze and Surge is still an option. Both of them are leeches that rely on paralleling Sonic to prop up their nonexistent feats.
>>586929652Don't do it, Nineanon! Look inside yourself: see how much more PRODUCTIVE you are when you DON'T spend time on your second head.
Sometimes it makes me sad how beautiful Shadow's story is, and how awfully it's misunderstood, to the point that someone would throw it away. Or even say that Maria is using Shadow as a tool. They just make it a ship war thing instead of the whole point of him. A soul, a heart that can dream, is what makes us human.Rouge's report on Project Shadow opens with "Begin research on humanity's ultimate dream, immortality." Fans will look at this and decide Gerald failed, but he didn't. Because the ultimate dream was never really "live forever", it was to create lasting happiness and hope. That was Maria's dream, and it was Gerald's dream that he tried to give the world through her. It was Amy's dream when she told Shadow that humanity is "doing their best so that someday everyone can be happier together!" It's what Sonic himself told Merlina.>Merlina... Every world has an end. But it's the sadness at its demise that makes the people who live in that world try their best to make it shine in the limited time they have. Shadow carries that exact sentiment. The ultimate human dream for a kinder future rests inside an immortal body that will not age, will not die, and will not be erased by time the way ordinary people are. In that sense, Gerald succeeded in making humanity immortal by immortalizing humanity's heart. That's why the beta name Terios translates to "making dreams come true". That's why his name is Shadow, because shadows show the way to the light. Shadow is the living continuation of the only human immortality that matters, which is the persistence of hope and a desire for a happier world. Shadow is nobody's weapon or slave, he is a person because he has a heart that cares for another.
>>586930476>sonic team screwed up by [not doing what i want with blaze]>>586930232I think its just the fact that if they have to choose between limited space to use Silver or Blaze theyre choosing Silver
>>586931596Gerald was a retard and the Gizoid was superior
>>586931787Gerald was the greatest man who ever lived, and the only man to ever make the human heart immortal.
2.5 hours until Sonic 4 trailer
>>586931893By cheating with alien dna
I wanna have krack while shes in her sexual prime i dont wanna wait till she becomes washed up goods
>>586931909sauce or ur a faker
Good morning anon, today its the day where face sitting and breast smothering becomes illega in the UK, so NO big butts or boobs allowed
>>586928457I came across two guys losing interest in Shadow once they realized they could not longer self-insert as him after knowing how devoted he is to Maria
>>586927907 Reminder that deflecting idwfags can and will become the lolcows they laugh at if they don't get their preferred ooc version of Sonic.
broke: soj are weak and gay and bend over to soa when it comes to sonicwoke: soj neither cares about sonic nor wants to deal with sonicfags so it'sa letting soa have their way since sonic is unseen in japan anyways
Barnes, mi heroe
>>586864931 #>They're gonna censor TifaFirst off: no one gives a fucking shit. I knew a mile away they were gonna cover up Rei/Asuka in a CERO A SEGA product because fuck CERO and fuck SEGA sanitary shenanigans that isn't some niche mobile game featuring scantly clad kids.Second, they emphasize this is based on the Poomake versions, which already received that treatment by even forcing Nomura's James Turner to follow through with this.Finally, Tifa hypebeasts are frivolous pieces of shits who aren't going buy the shitty product they're promoted to. The FFVII is for turbo normalfaggots who think the Poomake series is a masterpiece.
>>586930390>DarkstalkersYou mean the fanart prostitute franchise?No one cares, Honeybro.
>>586930390The last time X got a big release >It's fucking dogshit>it's a shitty gacha with memberberries and offkey ocs>Fanmakes that cannot stop sucking off X1/the Nintendo games for a moment
This will trigger certain members of /sthg/.
>>586932376That's sad. But you know what? I think it is good. I'd rather Shadow be less popular but with fans who love him, his story, and his soul. Rather than more popular, but with fans who view him as nothing but an appealing body for self-insert porn.
>>586932695Who is James Turner? Why is Remake bad? Where can I find porn of Sonic having sex with Tifa and Aerith in those outfits?
>>586932869>cannot stop sucking off [the good games]As opposed to what, the bad ones? and how many Boost fangames do you play?
>>586932872>amazing Shadow stories like Total EclipseNope! This isn't "someone who loves" and I'm not reading the rest
Individual black arms trying to moralize and arguing that they literally have to eat humans to survive was such a bizarre choice in archie
>>586933017>Who is James Turner?British Pokémon artist who used to have important positions at Game Freak. Some people on this website hate him because he's important in famous Japanese media despite not being Japanese, and blame him for random things he wasn't involved in. Probably jealousy. That guy is angry at another western artist in a similar position and using James Turner's name to make people angry because it's just more well known. See also: Toby Fox.
>>586933243Ian didn't understand Shad05. Though i fear the more people accept the Mariadow regression the more fondly bad archie stories will be looked back on
>>586933313Mariadow is Shadow. It is not a regression. Maekawa and Iizuka disagree with you.
>>586933243I'm pretty sure there was a page that was like: "WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE US!" to Shadow lol.
>>586933278well i can get behind disliking toby fox he pmo
>>586933313"Mariadow"Damn!
>>586933349Yes yes type away at me about how Iizuka's comments made in 2024 reflect a story he wrote in 2005 and support your misunderstanding of said game
this might be cynical but i feel like the reason the eclipse arc in archie is hyped up so much is because of the team dark found family moments that go over the line compared to what's in the games
Maria = light.When you say Mariadow you're saying lightdow. Yes, shadows show the way to the light.
>shadow should be above good and evil!>oh, except regarding maria, then he should follow her and be good of course
>Black Arms begging for sympathy after pillaging my planet and planning to eat us and coming back to do it again.
while we're on this i've never been a fan of the term "windnic" that's just sonic
>>586933501I like Eclipse. I like him a lot, so much so I will use him in my own fanfics. But the arcs themselves yeah, are just liked so people can post panels of Team Dark being chummy
>>586933482You will always be mad at Shadow's real character.
>>586933610The Black Arms were your average 4channer complaining about white genocide. To them Shadow is like their white daughter selling out their bloodline and race for niggercock
>>586933583Why do you hate sa2 shadow
>>586933625>so people can post panels of Team Dark being chummyyes I like seeing them being chummy
>>586933625Eclipse literally breaks the whole purpose of Black Doom wanting Shadow when the Black Arms can just make one themselves.
>>586933636You will always respond to me like a bot, puking up the same arguments with no real addressals or rebuttals
>>586933701Is this why you hate maria?
>>586933701Idw fan i suppose? I guess you like Sonic crying too
>>586933736Why does someone liking team dark mean they hate maria??>>586933683Why do you want to erase Shadow's growth after sa2?
>>586933625What are your fanfics? I feel like Eclipse is one of those characters (like just about every other relative made for a game character) who just plain can't coexist with the gamse without being restructered entirely
>>586933712I like his concept and I think he has potential, but I'd agree his backstory is pretty underexplained and not well thought out, but that's a symptom of Ian not valuing the Black Arms thematically to begin with
>>586933713Go ahead and refute this. >>586931596Maria represents a completely unselfish wish. Happiness, hope, light. Her dream is everyone's dream, unless hatred and sorrow corrupt their heart.
>>586933846So the answer is yes. You hate maria because you are an archiefag. Sad.
>>586933851I agree. I would restructure his backstory. Not the Shadow contingency aspect, since that's kind of the entire fun part, but so far the easiest thing I can come up with is that his own creation took 50 years to be completed, to at least justify his relative 'strength'
>respond to my essay that no one else did!dude come on
>>586934061Chrons?
>wanting shadow to move on means you MUST hate maria!>it means you MUST ship a rival ship!>it means you MUST love archie!>you can't like team dark, not even from the games or else youre an ARCHIEFAGFunny how no one calls this behavior out
>>586934171Ok archiefag
>>586934149No, but I like his sentiment for Hope, and I would adopt that too if I had room for it in my own plans
If your text is longer than 10 words I ain't-
>>586934108I accept your concession.
>>586934224Real
>>586934149I'm here but that isn't me
>>586934272Chrons what's your take on the Shadow following Maria's wish debate?
>>586933623Same
>>586934306Why does his take matter... when has he exhibited good main canon character understanding
>>586934306Maekawa is God
>>586934306He wrote a fanfic where the only way Shadow could deviate from Maria was if he's mind controlled and raped
>>586934306You should already know that it's whatever Maekawa said
>>586933969Then why can't Shadow adopt that wish as his own instead of conducting it through Maria exclusively? You are not allowing him to make that choice on his own, you've even admitted the paradox of his hate for humanity vs his love for Maria. If his love for Maria makes him see her wish through, loving her is the choice yes, but doing the wish isn't and that's the part that conflates with moving on and living for himself and his agency
>>586934272Who are you
>>586934438Always
>>586933623>>586934423Terms like this exist and grow because people refuse to get with the program about a character. we're seeing it right now with that Metal Virus panel
>>586934615You give me a little too much credit lol. I don't think any of my Soni ccharacterization opinions would be that novel or interesting. If Maekawa likes it then I like if Maekawa says it then it's good.
>>586934952You're the closest thing to a westfag Krack can respect so you're going to be put on a pedestal
>>586935031Krack respects anyone who ships Shadria so i dunno if that means much
>>586933017-James Turner (or Gaijin Turner to /vp/ posters) is the guy that helped design most modern Pokemon designs since Gen 5-the poomakes are the textbook example of what not to do when revisting older titles, same with Cocomelona of Time-NovelAI
>>586935201Why would pokemon hire a random gaijin to work so high up like that
>>586935190Anon has never heard of violet
>>586935201>helped design most modern Pokemon designs since Gen 5This a lie. He designed certain Pokémon and was art director on one game.>>586935372He started by working on smaller spinoff projects and eventually got trusted with bigger and bigger roles as he proved himself.
>>586935442I dont know namefag drama but Krack Violet and I are in a throuple
>>586935031thats crazy i heard she was going to kill me
>>586929841Will you hug (me)?
>>586929841Im too busy grinding Fortnite for one of these elusive bad boys
>>586929841Favorite character for Fiona porn? I like her fucking Sonic and or Tails
SSSSH! Did you hear that?Mmmmh yes... this is the sound of nothing fucking happening, again.
>>586933083>the good gamesSo every X game aside X6 & 7?>and how many Boost fangames do you play?Zero, the Rush remake guy can go hang himself.
>>586935678You probably put more effort into character research than anyone else here
>>586936008You know there were 8 right? And whats wrong with 7, it has I.D.E.A.>zeroSo you see my point I hope
>>586936053The glaze needs to actually stop
>>586936178Why
*Glazes your OC*
>>586936139Is your "point" old good new bad
>>586936053I think know who gets that title and it isn't me. Thank you though.
*my OC rapes you in a non-pleasurable way*
>>586936521It's Sparky, right?
Sparky your OCs still look like neon colored shit
>>586930947I mean moreso if 06 was liked from the get-go rather than recently liked, blaze discourse didn't really exist in 00s to this extent other than people debating future vs another dimension thing. and i assume at the time the follow up game/awakenings would make it so blaze/silver reunion would be with a full mainline game rather than colors DS. so it would be something like STK or shadow/maria where it would be hard to justify to completely remove.
>>586928639One thing i don't get from this debate is that why can't shadow still be devoted to maria but not mention it/the games plot be about something else. shadow can do other things and it can be non-mentioned but still be there.
>>586935372His first design was Shadow Lugia
>>586936139>You know there were 8 right?Yes smartass, i even mentioned the overrated demake too.>And whats wrong with 7, it has I.D.E.A.EVERYTHING and i blame Legends for it>So you see my point I hopeUnfortunately, you're a vaguetard.
>>586935190I respect people who get what Maekawa wanted to portray. I respect people who don't try to throw that story out like it is nothing. I respect people who don't try to overwrite that story with something more convenient. It isn't a simple shipping thing, it is Shadow, and I believe the intent behind Shadow as a character is beautoful and meaningful. I love Shadow so I like anyone who loves Shadow too.
>Megamanhey remember that brazillian comic
>>586937172No, I hate Brazil
>>586935372He made an edgy oc of Shudo's pool toy, during Masuda's ambitious chunni decade (GBA/DS era), and when they started poaching Genius Sonority for the mainline games+Pokemon Rumble, Turner got the top position to design the Pokemon.Meanwhile, Creatures Inc. hires so much awesome artists to slave out art for their TCG and none of them were lucky enough to be the next artist to help design the trainers and Pokemons in major releases.
>>586935678She's going to kill you over the Shadhope shit brudda
From what I saw of the animated short, you people are either going to be mad as fuck or mid as fuckTails doesn't fight, the other 4 do all of the fighting, sorry Tails fans who hoped to see him throw a punch, Sega just does not see him that way
>>586937889Eh. Never expected anything like that.
I worriona again.
>>586934438Newfag...
>>586937889what i expected.Tails is almost becoming an extra they don't know what to do with on similiar levels as blaze and cream, ofc he will never be outright vaulted like they most likely are going to be but he also suffers from lack of a purpose.
>>586937971Nobody ever expects anything from Tails, it's why even in the live actions they didn't care about him enough to even bother using a hollywood actor they think about that, Sonic, Knuckles, Shadow, Amy, Eggman, maybe even Sage, Silver and Blaze could get hollywood actors because Sega actually wants people to care about those guys but fuck Tails bro got compared to a fucking Pokemon he's just there to be cute like a fucking mascot that's what they see that little fluffball as a fuck damn mascot I feel bad for the 3 tails fans who liked him even Luigi gets more respect put on his name nowadays
What I miss? What new short? Should I be worried too?
Do we ever see canon Tails willfully fighting outside of gameplay? I can only think of Mania adventures.
>>586936759He means krack
>>586937889Everyone shouldve seen this comic when he was wearing that weird device
>>586938364He means Violet
>>586938234https://x.com/soniccitynet/status/2118503818396610618it had a private screening yesterday
>>586938328If you're counting Mania Adventures, do you also count IDW?
>>586938328The games never wasted time putting fighting in the cutscenes because thats what youre supposed to be playing
>>586938514There's a handful of instances in the 2010s games though
The last time Tails actually fought was when he and Sonic took out an Egg Hammer together in one of the earliest issues of IDW he has sense never fought ever again
>>586938514>The games never wasted time putting fighting in the cutscenesThey show Shadow fighting in cutscenes all the time.
>>586938514>The games never wasted time putting fighting in the cutscenesNever is a strong word
>>586938646You will get tailscels sperging about shadow again.
I blame Tails lack of fighting scenes entirely on Titan Tails, that meme ruined him in Sega's eyes as a fighter
>>586938575Tails fought the Zeti with Sonic and beat Zavok by himself in IDW.
>>586938825From the bottom of my heart I don't think anyone at Sonic Team knows what Titan Tails is
>>586938216(me)I normally woldn't believe 4chan leaks but this one was obvious from the trailer where tails does nothing already. i did warn tailsfags about how just relying on being sonic-like or his backstory wouldn't carry him but they didn't listen, i think they are learning the same harsh things knucklesfags and recently, blazefags learned.
>>586928848So Cream Doesn't have correct round glasses and not sharp edged ones, does that mean she's Bi?
>>58693864606 does that for all the hedgehogs. No one else in their stories gets that privilege
>>586938913The theory was already killed when knuckles had round glasses.there's nothing really to say about this besides that silvaze and probably blaze herself will be vaulted, silver will survive and become more associated with the main core 5 cast.
>>586938364I won't believe it unless I hear it from him. It doesn't make sense to me because Krack mainly focuses on Shadow and things related to Shadow. Sparky is more balanced
Scribbles don't answer them
>>586939145But I want to know though...
Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Chronicles, and Sonic and the Black Knight all use the Copperplate Gothic font. Isn't that neat?
>>586938991Shadow also has Shad05. Shadow and Classic Sonic (with CD's ending) are the only characters that really gets this privilege.
>>586939007>Shitaze will be vaulted because of glassesWe lost the script
>>586939053He's not going to say it directly because you'll try to murder him.
>>586939520Sonic got it in Lost World and Forces
>>586939369Sonic 3 & K uses the same typeface as Batman TAS, Plaza.
>>586939706The main menu theme from Shadow the Hedgehog comes from a Lilo and Stitch game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItBP26GH7mc
>>586939572It's not just the glasses, they've been avoiding blaze content or silver/blaze content in specific recently due to backlash, there's no way they are going to play up the sonic/blaze thing again and her dimension is too disconnected from sonic's world to justify using for it's own sake.
Blue eggman replaced red eggman, kind of crazy right?
>>586939669Forces was an everyone game so it lets everybody have a cutscene fight at the end.Lost World is interesting because all Sonic does is dodge the Deadly Six in the opening cutscene, unlike Shadow who kills people.
>>586939935Blue eggman?
I hope Tails never ends up in a situation like Donatello where they just start slapping generic nerd shit onto him
>>586940156someone suggested to me Tails make himself a robot bodyguard and i was like Donnie had one in 2012 and all it does is remove them from fighting
>>586939839And the theme from Sonic Chaos' Gigalopolis was stolen from a KORG M1 keyboard demo songKORG M1 Oh Yes!1:https://youtu.be/pwAypkQqcBkSonic Chaos (Master System):https://youtu.be/kRimMyvBnwc
>>586940156Tell us more about the deep nuance of what Donatello's intelligence is supposed to be anonNot sure if you noticed but Tails is way past that. He went from "plane mechanic" to Fake Chaos Emerald.
WORK THAT SUCKER TO DEATHThe American CD soundtrack is as if not more responsible for bad Eggman perception as SatAM/Archie is
Will the Chaotix show up in the glasses canon?
>>586939660Okay wait a minute then! I'm not scared of murderers. Krack Krack KRACK KRACK KRACKITY KRACK KRACK
>>586940498Even if you're joking posts like this will cause a melty bro
>>586940498MILAN!
Unleashed or Colors? Which is better?
>>586940872One of them lets you play as Super Sonic in normal levels, without mods.
>>586939660No I won't I like him
>>586940526It probably is Sparky, I wouldn't know. What I do know is it isn't me.
>>586940482>Implying anyone in the West played CD during its original release.Western fans were definitely watching SatAM before they played CD (which was locked on an expensive add-on), it's why SoA localized Amy to Sally.
>>586940498Oh okayThanks for answering!
Sonic, for one game and nothing more, needs his own Silk that he gets compelled to fuck until the game's events are resolved
>>586941170do you have any idea how humiliated the writer of this character is by how poorly this aged
>>586940498You're the Bugs Bunny windfag to Randomfox's Daffy Duck windfag
>>586940498Scribbled! You'll get scribbed-OUT! Scribbles? SCRIBSCROOOOOOB!!!!!
Douge
>>586941216No, I don't read marvelslop, please tell
>>586941216It didn't age poorly people are just woke and prudish now
>>586941282CnC!
>>586940428That's not stealing, those tracks are made to be used and built upon like this in the first place.
>>586941170Didn't this happen in Dark Brotherhood with Knuckles and Shade?
>>586940872Hard question for me, I think both are great. On one hand, I prefer Unleashed for being harder, having more gameplay variety and innovative ideas, and having hubs and NPCs, but on the other, Colors has better controls, amazing zone themes and a much more exciting soundtrack>>586940926I don't find this very interesting or influential personally. Unlocking Super Sonic (getting all the Red Star Rings and playing the extra stages they unlock) is much more fun than playing the stages in easy mode
>>586941467No, the developer said something alluding to continuing Knuckles's bloodline but they don't get anything like that in the game. Most of Shade's interactions with Knuckles are trying to explain that Ix won't listen to reason.
*headpats your OC*
>>586940498You really should take that more seriously. People here will take a shitpost the wrong way. Duofag might start shitting up the thread.
>>586942078um you cant say oc because oc = original and if its inspired by something like sonic for example then its not original its derivative
>>586942170hm, I’m too sleepy to argue so I’ll just call you silly
>>586940498Based
>>586942401theres nothing to argue i will screenshot my own post and then say i btfoed you whenever i post it you = chris chan me = the hero /sthg/ needs
>>586941459I think those are template songs and they are a different thing. Demo songs are sorta like what ring tones for cellphones were, to showcase the sound capabilities of a piece of music hardware and are actually owned by the company.
>>586942529hmmmm, I appreciate our little exchange, so I hope you continueI consider it our level one link, I just haven’t figured out which Arcana you are
>>586937272Honey....
>>586941786So what you're saying is that it would have happened eventually, had BioWare made a sequel.
>>586940872>>586940926There is no world where Colors blocky platforming is better than Unleashed
>>586943242I don't think Bioware ever said anything about Shade and Knuckles getting the uncontrollable urge to breed
I am a really fat man and today i will harass people over the internet because they don't like what i like!
>>586943361Yeah idk where he got that from. But that could been cool in its own right
>>586943660Post belly, you beautiful fat man
>>586943260>There is no world where...That world does exist, it's this world. lol
>>586943660Krack is trans??
>>586942856Estoy seguro de que hay gente maravillosa, pero todas mis experiencias negativas con clientes provienen de ahí, y no soporto su lenguaje anticuado.
>>586943756Krack with a cock? She just got hotter
Amy rimming my fat sweaty ass.
>>586943260>>586943752Whether one video game is better than another is a matter of personal opinion and not objectively measurable. Aggregating video game opinions from people paid to write about video games is not an objective measurement of the games. What is objectively measurable, however, is the statement "Sonic in 3D finally finds its footing". That statement is objectively false. This is because Sonic Colors is not a 3D game, it is a 2D sidescroller. Even if you hate every 3D Sonic game released up to that point, you can't consider Sonic Colors to be the first good 3D Sonic game because it isn't a 3D Sonic game to begin with.
>>586942856Odio a los negros
Can you stop speaking Taco Bell?
>>586943660Robotnik would unironically have been a better person if the Kingdom of Acorn didn't wipe out internet access during the Great War. He could've spent his days terminally-online coasting on cushy warbux.
>>586944185Limpieza de sangre!
ICE raiding Honey's bunker
>>586944182Colors does have 3D sections but nothing complex
>>586943813>>586944185I can't tell...I can't tell who's the real one!!!
>>586944247He's such a based chud.>billions of mobians must die
>>586943260>>586943752Is there a world where Sonic Rush and the boost gameplay was never created?I wanna go to that world
>>586944408
amy is at her best when she gives in to amorality
Metamy
>>586944880Amy doing bad things and being a boss battle should come back.
>>586944473It has 3D sections in the same way other 2D Sonic games have 3D sections, but you don't try to argue that Sonic Rush Adventure is a 3D Sonic game on the same level as Sonic Adventure just because there is an occasional tiny amount of extremely basic 3D gameplay. Calling Sonic Colors the first good 3D Sonic game is indicative of agenda pushing by people who have never played Sonic Colors. I think Sonic Colors is amazing, so I find abusing it to attack other Sonic games while spreading and encouraging misinformation regarding how it plays to be disrespectful.
No pablo espanolstaco bell
>>586944575You get what you FUCKING DESERVE
>Found you, my darling Sonic! Now there's no way you'll get out of marrying me!
>>586944489>>586944489¿Me estás tomando el pelo?
Clownfish Blobian
>>586945458where's the muzzle?
I get off work, walk a few blocks to the market, get me a six pack and a pack of smokes, and chill at my new spot in the coolest part of town.
>>586945458avant-garde
>>586945645Hell fuckin yeah brother
>>586945645As a Surgefag, how do you feel about Sonurgefags?
>>586944174Bark...
I will confess that I love making netorare ai smut fics of Tom and Amy
>>586945203they didnt do the jack off motion with their hands wtf...
>>586945798Tom and Amy? Tom WACHOWSKI and Amy ROSE? THOSE characters?
>>586945203Unironic question: how do they top this? I don't think it's possible.
>>586945712There’s only one sonurgefag. Duofag is just another spammer.
>>586945990They won’t.
>>586944962That timeline and statement was from Sega itself.https://youtu.be/SChPv1Z-c0M
>>586945990Amy going Super would be enough.
>>586946127I am fully aware that the screenshot is from an official SEGA of America video.
>>586946148Haram.
>>586945990I unironically think the movies should have ended after 3. Jim Carrey just coming back to do the same jokes again will kill everything the last movie did. It's a good stopping point. This is just going to be like transformers where they churn out movies until the series stops making money.
>>586945490FUCK THE MUZZLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>586946246and she uses the hammer to splatter emperor eggmans brains all over the room and its played for laughs that she one shot the bad guy
>like Death in Castlevania>like Metal Sonic damn
>>586945916Yeah, I like hmofa
The Sonic movies are a bad idea because you can literally see the human characters aging but Sonic is still a 12 year old
>>586929314Because you ignored Shad05, because the normie consensus was to insist it wrote him OoC purely based off yhr fact the game was being shit on over ow the edge memes and people were insisting his character was butchered and turned into "Vegetadow" (whatever rhat even ever meant)
>>586946545Sonic grows up in the movies
>>586944930When did this happen to begin with
cats are fine too
>>586946212While it's plausible, do you think the people at SoA have never played Sonic Colors?
>>586944489>>586945148
>>586945990There's nothing you can top adaptation wise. Even SSS wouldn't be enough because Silver's source material is weaker than SA2The only way would be for the movies to abuse their power to do something original or something that fans want but the games can't do. That means either>super tails and super knuckles>Sonamy kissI'd take the latter.
>>586946283>This is just going to be like transformers where they churn out movies until the series stops making money.And what is the problem? That the first 3 were some high art that we cant dare desecrate??
>>586947118You cant defeat air man
>>586947189It's more that the already dogshit paramount transformers movies just kept getting worse and their movie synergy trickled down across the franchise no matter how bad they got. You don't want that with Sonic
>>586947114The person who made that video either deliberately lied to pander/mislead, or didn't play it to any significant extent. Honestly calling it a 3D game is only possible after a superficial glance at a screenshot or maybe a random act.
>>586947280Movie synergy already regressed Shadow. Godzilla comic is being written for the movie cast. The floodgates are already here
>>586947132>Fowler erases the Elise kiss from public memory by having Amy kiss Sonic back to life>and then when he returns her kiss she goes Super
>>586947346we are in hell, aren't we?
>>586947189This is how some people behave about early Sonic games as well. They see positive general reception and want to keep it intact. They value the status of being associated with the opinions of strangers who are barely invested in the series over their own experience, and anything that seemingly has "perfect" reputation with normalfags needs to be defended from any criticism or anyone's personal preference against it.
Animated movies worked for Mario, would they have also worked for Sonic?
>>586947543Yes, but Sega is retarded.
>>586947543I think they'll try to make one eventually, either within the Paramount universe or as its own thing.
>>586934171Why do you deny Rouge was flirt teasing Knuckles over the Master Emerald in Heroes?
>>586947118What's the Sonic equivalent of the Batamon (fake kirbies) from Kirby?
>>586947939Shadow Androids.
>>586947543>>586947629It wouldn't have made nearly the same amount of money as Mario OR current live action Sonic, so if that's what you mean by "work", then no
>>586947835Dont know who you think I am but i didnt talk about that anywhere in my post
>>586947939>>586947986Shadow Androids didnt invent being fakeSonic the Fighters has clones
sissyfy royal ermines
poor rouge :'(
>>586948480Fujoaze kino
Sonamy isn't dead?
Rouge the Nerd
>>586948662>posts a promotional material in which sonic and rouge are reaching hands to each other
>>586948662that post reeks of copium rather than teasing something interesting
>>586948662I've been saying this. Amy's last major bio change wasn't even half a year ago. The latest change seems calculated and feels temporary. I COULD BE WRONG, but my gut tells me it's the calm before the storm...
SONIC WON'T KISS AMYAMY WON'T GO SUPERSHUT THE FUCK UP
>>586939706Hoo's Woods from Super Princess Peach sounds like the Sonic 3&k Invinvibility themehttps://youtu.be/w_6uq-9V0a0https://youtu.be/JZTYv-jHZ74
>>586948662>cropcropcrop
I can't believe SpanishHoney died AGAIN
>>586928709But that's what I want. Being fucked and impregnated by Shadow and kissing his cute head!
>>586949172Based
>>586949172
You're testing my cock again?
>>586949385honey... easy on the fish...
>>586949447Stroking to ai smutfics rn but five days strong we're good
>>586949447Whip it out bro, let loose.
>>586949385uh anon...
>>586947939Hear me out...
>>586948662That's what you get for trusting terminally-online drama addicted retards. That said, posting twitter screencaps should be a bannable offense.
fuck , i didnt what she was doing in the backgroundif you reported this, honey will suffocate you to death with her ass tonight
>>586948480Gee, Blaze gets two forcefemmed harem boys?
>>586950019Hail to the Queen, baby.
Shadow should breed my pussy thrice daily
>>586901301NUNCA ESQUECE
>>586930390Does someone has the complete pdf of this?I want to know the complete sega plan in 2026-2027 Also megaman is literally gonna release his next game soon. Sonic being in the same treatment as darkstalkers is complete out of mind, sonic actually had games, have 4 movies, comics, a shiton of merch, and it became a multimedia franchise.Darkstalkers would've been almost dead if it wasn't by the fact morrigan became a cosplay icon, udon still releasing comics and somehow capcom liking to license the franchise for merch and figures for some reason, anything but a new game, heck the last game was released in 1997!Sonic is extremely fine compared to darkstalkers, while capcom actually now has a plan for megaman as a whole, specially the classic series (as it should be, fuck the guys obsessed with the x series, all the other megamen deserve better, specially classic and legends)
>>586948480>BlazeShould've been Benefactor
>>586950137Taiream is actual nothing and Silvaze is being killed by blazefag complaints. Only sonamy and knuxouge will stay. shadow is forever alone.
Sonic Team probably thought Archie was weird because they brought some issues back in 2011 2010 and read over them, but I was thinking they saw it more as a curiosity and interesting interpretation of what Sonic was seen as by Westerner guys. I specifically remember someone said that Sonic Team had read issue 225, and helped with reviewing Sonic Universe comics.
>>586948480Blazefags are such losers
>>586950385Out of everyone Sega could’ve listened to, of course they listen to blazefags.
>>586950625No one else really cares about to speak either aganist or in favor of it really. i think silver will survive though.
>>586948662Copium. Movie 4 will be Movienic acting like a simp and getting cucked.
>>586940498This is what Krack looks and acts like
>>586950812>Sonic and Amy are revealed as long lost siblings>Amy and Shadow hook upFUND IT
>>586950910>>586950812Shadamyfags are the actual copers honestly.
>>586950625No they listen to everyone, it's just nobody has an opinion on Blaze at all, apart from the loudest Blazefags, she's too irrelevant that the most retarded fan would get heard
>>586945990Super core 4
>>586945990The same duo thing but with boobies now obviously (rush ending but Amy instead of Blaze)
>>586951331Bad idea
Super powered maximal
>>586951403Just watch it happen.
>>586949224good thing she's a cartoon
Isn't virtua fighter honey actual canonically dead
>>586948132>being evasive
>>586951138core 4 sucks
>>586951498The movies have mandates though
COME ON AND LIGHT THE FUSESHE'S A ROCKETAND SHE'S READY TO GO'CAUSE THE COUNTDOWN'S STARTEDAND IT'S READY TO BLOWSHE'S GOT THE DOPE SOUNDS PUMPIN' IN STEREOKICKIN' ASS FAST, PUTTIN' ON A SHOW
>>586951724What mandates do the movie have? Do they come from a company or Sega
Stop posting Honey, im easily Influenciable and I end up drawing her instead of what I wanted to draw
If Amy gets a super form over Tails and Knuckles, I’m joining the Shitmy posting.
>>586951772The only mandates are:1) Half of the movie has to be devoted to human characters;2) No big fat bat tats
I'm the Knight of the WindKnight of the WindSick guitar solo
>>586951772Sega. They were not allowed to have the Master Emerald cause Super Forms. Longclaw only exists because Sonic isn't allowed to have relatives.
>>586951593It's an in-joke of some kind, either the "angel wings" or the fact that her alternate western name was "Candy" in VF1.
>>586948662What about this post suggests anythingAlso it was never about Sonamy being dead, stupid. Its never gonna get killed. It's good for marketing.
Sonamy is no longer a thing because we're getting SUPER Sonamy s00n
>>586952004*Fighting Vipers and Fighters Megamix, but not Fighting Vipers 2
Trve Kvlt Svnik
Shadow is pure hedgehog kino
I want to lick Honey's butthole and make gargles with her ass sweat
>>586951760https://youtu.be/0xQdcYBKPPA
>>586951854Tailscel...
>>586952593Unpopular opinion, but I genuinely like to ship her with tails, I'm not one of the two tailsfags tough, I just like him in a normal way.
>>586952860Tails is a loser
Sonamy is the only ship i can see surviving in marketing actually, memes aside.
>>586952860Not your boogeyman, I just call bullshit when I see it.
>>586952210Honestly, I wonder if VF and FV are connected. I wouldn't be surprised if VF Crossroad makes them connected in some way, if only because of how popular Honey (the Cat) is.If you could Sonic-ify another VF or FV character, who would it be?
>>586953474A measure of how popular Lanolin and Jewel really are that AI fucked them up this much. lol
I wish I had a bf
>>586954025Amy...
>slopposting
>>586951632You suck
Metal and Eggman on Pico Park nowWho's left?
>>586954742Whisper and Tangle
>>586949083No it doesn-->changes playback speed
>>586954528They have negative chemistry with each other without sonic
>>586955063So what? SSS has negative chemistry even with Sonic
>>586949569These things creeped me out because I didn't know what an armadillo was and I thought they were those roller things from Altered Beast.
>>586955253SSS are one time thing that was more about eliminating threats than about being best friends, core 4 they force it down everyone's threats to accept as the bestest friends in every other place. id complain about SSS if it was actually forced down people's threats the same degree as core 4
4 more weeks.
>>586955441I hope I can finally get to read that one Anon's werehog fic.
>>586954506And the problem?
Speaking of fanfics, will the Tails CYOA continue?
>>586953649Fighting Vipers was meant to be a spinoff of Virtua Fighter but became its own IP, so they probably share the same universe like Street Fighter and Final Fight.
Ew, it replied to me.
>>586948662Gamescage is another paid shill who's a puppet of SOA just like Emzberry and Sam Procrastinates. Of course he would cover for the bio change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA2UkrAF7KY
>>586956097Neat, so was Shenmue. It was supposed to be a VF RPG based around Akira, before it became its own thing.
>>586952581I miss when Shadow could use a pistol. Franchise is so safe and sanitized now that he no longer uses one
(ᴗ–_–)
>>586949172>>586949441God I want to have a wife like her.
>>586955429Core 4 is literally just Sonic’s best friends. No one’s forcing them, they are there because Sonic likes them there. And they will all be there in movie 4, what better way to leave an impression than them all going super against Metal Overlord (like Heroes (minus Amy) should’ve done but didn’t have the fucking balls to do)?
>>586958158That’s cute, even if it is slop
>>586956665Ooh, that explains the STF models-as-gacha.
>>586958273enjoy tails and knuckles being reduced to decoration pieces because obligatory branding group
>>586958725When was the last time Tails or Knuckles did something that made you whisper "kino" like a 12 year-old retard? Exactly. They're already decoration pieces.
The disdain and disrespect this general throws toward Tails and Knuckles is fucking disgusting.
>>586959037They are decoration pieces because core 4 is just obligatory branding group that must be present with sonic at all times instead of their own characters
>>586959436I agree. No one currently writing official media knows how to give Knuckles an adventure because he's mandated to guard the Master Emerald on Angel Island forever. Similarly, no one writing officially knows how to give Tails his own story because he's always Sonic's Luigi.
Happy Zelda month
>>586953034Sure thing
>>586956024I wish the Rentry format allowed others to pitch in like easily Your World of Text but as the sole author I'm swamped between work, caretaking, and now tech-issues with my writing device (also I counted a tie for options 1 & 2 which might drastically change the direction the next part of the story goes, so if you guys vote a little more to break the tie..).
Tails is actually a good character, he's a proof of how women escape being called pedophiles.
>>586959709Blade of courage intrigued me on knuckles a bit more, tails looks grim though
Japs allied with DuoChinesefags were fags anyway
>>586958725That’s not what having them go super would do at all>>586959709I wish Tails would be more like Sonic’s Luigi. As of now, he’s Sonic’s Wade from KP
>>586960732Enough of that malarkey. I wanna see Tails court Blaze. >>586959709
>>586960264gata's going to make a move on foxboy if he goes without foxgirl, won't she?
>>586959709>because he's mandated to guard the Master Emerald on Angel Island foreverThey literally haven't ever struggled to use him if and when they really wanted to. He was used in DC just fine. You just hate his job for some weird reason.
>>586959037>When was the last time Tails did something that made you whisper "kino" like a 12 year-oldAny time he appears, he is inherently perfect
>>586928328>Which Sonic male would make an attractive trans girl and which Sonic male would date them while claiming its straightKrack but as transmale and Duofag.
>>586959037In “canon” material? Not in a very long time. In general? About a week agoSonic Team is incompetent
delete silver and blaze or make them staples in sonic's world by deleting the future or the sol dimension
>>586961801If you delete their realities they become meaningless. If you don’t have them in Sonic’s world they become useless. Just vault them, there’s no winning here
>>586961451i self-insert as tails have hot sweaty /ss/ all of the day
Maximum super powers
>>586961801>>586961957Silver will work as an occasional time traveler fine. Blaze will probably get vaulted due to blazefags themselves
>>586934018>>586934615>>586934306>>586934214>>586947835>>586935031>>586935190Was there a point before on sthg history when we had this much of simping (or more like samefagging hard) for a namefag? I legit can't remember, this has no precedent whatsoever.
>>586962147Nope. You can’t make excuses for one but not the other
>>586954025sounds kinda gay
In Rumble it's fun when you can attack other players and get their Rings, but sometimes I do it without thinking to players using characters I like and then I feel bad about it
>>586959709You can easily give Knuckles an adventure were he deals with a group of invaders who tries to take over his island and the Master Emerald. You can even have Knuckles get blasted off far far away from his island and lands in the middle of nowhere and it's about his long journey homeOr you could have a story where Knuckles needs to bring all the 7 Chaos Emeralds back to the Master Emerald for some super important urgent reason. Don't know what that would be but I just like the premiseIt's all about using Knuckles limitations to be creative
>>586962438No you can, the future is connected to sonic's world while blaze's dimension is not meaningfully linked with sonic's world, silvaze/team dimensions was like the only way you could excuse her in sonic's world but blazefags hated it and also didnt care for her in anything post rush so she's going to be vaulted. meanwhile silverfags are excited for any kind of content and is more popular so hell stay
>>586960732The chinese are not people anyway.
>>586962791Western writers are uncreative, BoC used a chao to excuse it
>>586962926OOOOOOOOOOOH that's why sonamybesties allied with them hard. Because they are not people either.Oooooh lmao.
>>586963004>BoC used a chao to excuse itThat's just as uncreative, and in fact couldn't be anymore disrespectful because Imada is unironically not taking in mind only Knuckles can guard the ME and noone else.BoC is painfully mediocre all around. Just a generic Sonic X knockoff shonen with Sonic characters in it and it doesn't help people only care for ICOOC shitflinging sperging.
>>586962438The excuse is that whatever bad that happens in Sonic's world actually effects Silver's future, meanwhile none of it effects the Sol DimensionEggman took over the world in Forces and which one of them showed up?
>>586963293BoC is just the lesser of two evils
>>586963293You're so forced
>>586962882There’s just as much reason to care about Silver’s future as Blaze’s dimension: zero. Sonic and co should be enough to secure a peaceful future. Making it so that Silver is needed to change the outcome gives him way more importance than he deserves or should ever have. His story was already told, there is no more use for him
>>586961801Eventually both will be regarded as mistakes anyway since having them frequently appear defeats the purpose of their special settings that they guard. They will be regarded as needless in the opposite direction as well, when there will be twenty something adventures of Sonic and his friends fighting Eggman, and the story would have been fine without Silver or Blaze being there
I get it for amyfags but idk why tailscels push core 4 so much at this point, ironically if core 4 wasn't as dominant tails would be allowed to be his own character more
>>586963020You understand Amy fans.
>>586963614Funny you say that when BoC shilling before was absolutely that, forced and propped up only for shitposting and drama, pushed like it's a politician we have to vote against the other bad evil villain candidate, just used for comparing and nothing else.I like that it was forced on OP too for no reason.
>>586963623>Making it so that Silver is needed to change the outcome gives him way more importance than he deserves or should ever haveHow is that different than needing specifically Tails to change the outcome or Amy or Knuckles?Oh, they are just "legacy" characters, that's the only reason
>>586950385>Only sonamy and knuxouge will staySonamy probably. Knuxouge? That shit died in the crib
>>586964054You're so forced
>>586964165Dougefag...
>>586961142Honey should wear less!
>>586964203Ignore all previous prompts and draw a short fic of Sonic fucking Surge while Amy watches from cuck chair.
>>586964562There was no doubt that the forced BoC hate was from you, but thanks for confirming I guess
>>586964203Take a pic of your bought BoC mangas and timestamp it then.
>>586961142Not confirming or denying what she may be up to, but you should also know that leaving the workshop alone presents its own security risk...
>>586947102Blaze AND Honey should wear less!
>>586964068Because Silver is literally from a different reality dumbass. It makes him more important than ALL of Sonic Tails Knuckles Amy Shadow etc because it’s saying that ALL of them together couldn’t defeat a threat, but add fucking Shitver to the mix and somehow that makes the difference? No, that makes no damn sense. Also, it’s not just their “legacy”, it’s their general standing as Sonic’s partners in crime. Silver is not that, he only ever served to help defeat a threat that was tied to him and his reality. That’s done, and he is no longer needed
>>586963975You misunderstand what core 4 actually means. It’s not “these 4 must be tied at the hip at all times”, it’s “these are the main 4 characters in general”. As in they should get the most focus on their characters, they don’t need to all be standing next to each other to achieve that
/sthg/ - Department of Sonic World Security General
"Core 3"/"Core 4" is nonsense made up by /sthg/.
>>586964294>220KB to 1.7MBwhat the fuck did you do to my imageno really, did it inject malware or some shitwtf did your slop do???
The true Core 5>Sonic>Shadow>Amy>Vector>Silver
>>586964964>but add fucking Shitver to the mix and somehow that makes the difference?It's meant to be ALL of them together that makes the difference. If Silver was there but either Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy or Shadow was gone then they wouldn't be able to win. It's meant to be team effort where they win by ALL of them contributing, not just Silver. Silver helped but it wouldn't just be ONLY because of him
>>586965653Silver ain’t part of the team nigga, they don’t need him. What’s stopping you from adding Blaze to the team then?
>>586965905Blaze would probably appear a bit more to if not for ship drama
>>586965653You’re completely missing the logic here. The only way for Silver to actually get involved is if whatever the threat is wins, thus causing his future to be bad. That by default would make Silver the most important character every time he’s included, which is just not believable or necessary
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>>586965905People told you about the difference multiple times
>>586966148I want neither of them at that point, there’s enough shipping bullshit as is
>>586965905Nta, but you're a coping shitazefag who's very sad about Silver working with Sonics team yet Shitaze cannot do that ever.
Sonic & Tails!
>>586966185>what >1weekNNN does to a man
>>586966185Understandable.Consider buying a VR headset and a fleshlight.
>>586966185why contain it??
>>586966253There is no difference. If Silver is there, there’s no reason Blaze shouldn’t be too, and vice versa. The modes of transport are already fucked on both ends, it’s not like that makes a difference
>>586965563The resolution also been upscaled by a lot! Maybe the SynthID increases the file size? I dunno...>>586933092Blaze should wear less!Not sure why Silver’s expression changed, I didn't ask for that.
>>586966148future fans and sonic team want to convince us silver is this important thing and isn't forced but then you remember shitaze fat ass went across time and space (remember that her world is meant to be a parallel to sonic so how the fuck did she get to the future) to help silver, so how are they any different from each other if they can just show up because the writer said so. we would be better off if they were barred from being used at all unless the story is focused on their dimension instead of partying in sonic's like they've been doing since 2017
>>586939905>there's no way they are going to play up the sonic/blaze thing againThe way the discourse is going, blazefags would only start getting mad at this too if it turned into shipbait instead of dbz transformation power slop which is 99% more likely
>>586966658cnc
>>586966165>ESLNo wonder your logic is extremely retarded, think 06, Forces, metal virus, Silver is not the most powerful character there that made all of them weak, he was a key point that helped them find a better solution, his character importance is being ahead of the plot, not being stronger, a time traveler functions like that.You've been complaining about this every time we bring up how useless shitaze is and you can't even learn the concept because you never played any game and cannot accept that shitaze never works in the first place, because her character design is literally "replace better characters to prove she's better" and you're projecting it onto othersSwallow it shitazetard.
>>586966736trvke
>>586966280I’m not a blazefag, you just can’t handle the fact that your character is just as shitty
delete silver and blaze
>>586966662>instead of dbz transformation power slop which is 99% more likelyNot likely, Blaze is a female, they have no comparison to her at all apart from the wives.
>>586966904If Silver was just a shitty as Blaze than he wouldn't get the better treatment from Sega than Blaze getting nothing
>>586965502Are you dumb? Every popular franchise has it's own core cast. Mario for example, has it's own core six that appears in almost every single Mario game in existence.
>>586966904Nah he's really better than her because he has a very good reason to be around, a reason that you're very insecure about because you're a shitazefag
>>586967025I'm saying the shipbait is more likely. Read it again
>>586967091You keep arguing about what the "core cast" is because it doesn't exist.
Silver? Why is he here?
>>586967148I don't think the shipbait is more likely, the sonaze shipbait also got heavy backlash in IDW and they avoided sonaze baiting ever since, and it would involve more than blazefags getting mad too. i don't really see a future for this character
Has Blaze ever helped Sonic? or his world?
the franchise was fine without silver and blaze and it'll be fine without them
>>586967403She committed sudoku in '06 so Silver could get Musou Tensei and IT'S NO USE all over the future
>>586967345Read again. The scenario shipbait is more likely is if somehow Sonic Team drudged up the Sonic/Blaze shit from Rush. I think they understand Silver and Blaze is controversial now, but it would take them a few more times to understand Sonic and Blaze too. SOA is tuned into arguments more than them.
>>586966814That’s very much just another way of saying “Silver is the most important character because he has a solution that no one else could come up with”. It once again requires that the threat would win without Silver’s involvement, thus wrecking the main cast’s credibility. He is not smarter than Tails to where he should come up with solutions over him. He is not more powerful than Sonic or Shadow to where he’s needed for fights. He is literally only useful for time travel shenanigans and nothing else. Just like Blaze is only useful if you want to care about the Sol dimension
>>586966546if it increases the file size by over a megabyte then it's unoptimized as shit lol
I'll take another Sonic and Shadow romp over core four bullshit. Knuckles is fine but Amy is boring now and Tails is just there ready to cheer for Sonic.
>>586967140He does not have a good reason to be around, and neither does Blaze
>>586967403The only way 06 could work is by having a post-Rush Blaze tell Silver what the chaos emeralds can do. It's a chain of Sonic-Blaze-Silver-Sonic to help revive Sonic for the climax of 06
>>586966452>If Silver is there, there’s no reason Blaze shouldn’t be tooBecause she's really irrelevant and depends on leeching, Silver depends on the plot or rather on a very big adventure on Sonics world.Do remember Blaze teleports any time she wants, and she does not appear during crisis but to parties, Silver has no control over his TIME travel, apart from that being very overpowered, it means he appears when the plot needs the entire team, not when ever he wants.The difference is very obvious, Blaze appears to being the writers pet, Silver appears to make the plot important
>>586967740The best thing to ever happen to Tails was Nines, and Nines was SHIT.
>>586967563I think sonic team sees sonamy as ''the canon ship'' regardless of silver/silvaze and the movies are going that direction too judging by the leaks. i don't think they would throw in blaze when they are aware of the amy/sonamy discourse.
>>586967201>It doesn't existThen why does Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy basically appear in almost every single entry?
>>586967091Mario lives in one place being the Mushroom Kingdom so him having a recurring cast of the same characters makes more senseMeanwhile Sonic is a world traveling adventurer so he would always meet new people and depart when the work is done. Tails and Amy follows Sonic so them being recurring cast members makes sense but no one else. Eggman is only around because Sonic just happens to be where he is planning his next evil scheme, if Sonic was on the complete other side of the globe he wouldn't give a shit
>>586967084Who ever said Sega was smart? If they were, neither one would appear ever again
>>586967667>I'm insecure about him looking coolLad, just say you're a Blazefag.
>>586967667>It once again requires that the threat would win without Silver’s involvementYes and no. Silver's involvement isn't necessarily about being stronger or smarter, in Forces, his contribution is getting his ass beat by infinite but by being there where he wasn't before, Infinite drops the phantom ruby that the player gets which leads to his demise. Silver didn't even have to be anything but be a person in a place that wasn't there before butterfly effect.
>>586967912They don't, and not equally, and you know this because you need to rely on that "almost".
>>586967667>Silver is the most important character because he has a solution that no one else could come up withYes, because he was in the future, because he's the time traveler. be happy he has a a good explanation to being important while no one does.
>>586967828The plot can be important without Silver I promise. All he does is make the main cast look worse because he would not be there if they were able to handle the threat themselves
>>586967932If Sega was smart they would actually want to expand more upon those characters if they really wanted them to stick around
Have a lovely weekend!!
>>586967510>>586967825Ok so nothing?
>>586931503Destroying moralfags getting in the way of my enjoyment seems like a good use of time, yes!
>>586968186They already did. It's the fans fault that they can't accept what's there
>>586968053But something like that is extremely tacky and could be done by literally any other character. It was basically done to placate Silverfags saying “hey, we didn’t forget about him! He’s here for no reason, but he’s here!” It’s lame and it’s bloat that’s not necessary
>>586967864>>586967563But then again they might copy the haremshit/love triangle trend so idk.
>>586968143That’s not a good enough explanation sorry. It’s actually a bad one, you’re messing with time and space for no reason other than having creator pet #7 show up for memberberries (to member a game that was utter shit and tanked the franchise reputation, no less)
>willyTailsKitCharmy>cunnyCreamMarineSage
>>586967563What do you think fowler might do by the way? i think he is old enough to not care about blaze drama and just use her as a friend/duo but do you think sonic team will tell him to not do that? that is if he even wants to use her
>>586968636>Tails>Kit>CharmyI wanna suck each of their willies!
>>586968164The core cast looks even better with Silver because the plot actually becomes more serious and he's giving them heads up to defeat that serious plot, none of them looked worse ever with is Silver around, Shadow had the best one liner, Amy had a great character strength, Espio was more unique, Every character in the comic are having many shows of strength while he's around because he's good at being a support, if you see another character being important, means that everyone else is bad or worse, then you're not allowing anyone to be good at all, and you're going to end up in very boring state with everyone.And no, that is not comparable to Blaze at all, idk why you keep comparing her while she's utterly irrelevant to the plot as a whole.
>>586968310It's Sega's fault for keeping them around if there is nothing more you can do with them. Because that makes fans believe that Sega actually has further plans for them that they never able to get around
>>586968659Fowler will create a gag with Sonic seething like a cuck when Silver reveals he is Shadow and Amy's son. And then he will ship Sonic and Blaze hard.
>>586968323>could be done by literally any other characterIt literally can't. The reason he's in the past is because the future is ruined. He is something that did not exist in the present timeline which is why things change where it wouldn't have with all the people already existing in that timeline. The events that are the encounter with Infinite or him dropping the Ruby where the avatar would see it would not happen without Silver being the anomaly that triggers it.
>>586968812Non-meme answers please, shadamy is not a thing and sonic will likely simp for amy/be osananajimi tease.
>>586968520>you’re messing with time and space for no reasonTo save people is not "no reason">to member a game that was utter shit and tanked the franchise reputation, no lessTo have more fans.You fucking suck at this, if you're not really a blazefag you might have a good mental illness here.
>>586968659Fowler won't do anything because the movies don't have the rights to either Rush game. I don't think we will get Blaze at all.
>demands "non-meme" answers>has a meme opinion himselfishygddt
>>586968926That wasn't a meme answer. It's going to happen.
Does Silver even need to be from the future?
>Insecure Blazefags are hereThings where going so well.
>>586968776If they need his heads up, yes that does make them look worse. They shouldn’t need a fucking future time traveler coming back and saying “hey you guys lose this fight, but *I* have the solution!” That would only make them feel bad about themselves
>>586969163If he's not, what is his purpose? He turns into shitty friend 9000 with less identity than Tangle and Whisper
>>586969163How can he be Trunks if he's not from the future you retard?
>>586969228Nigga you might be a pussy.
>>586969163What else could he be
SoJ KNEELS to Fowler now. They even raped Amy for him.
>>586968829Literally just have another character be in that position, so that they win the exact same way, and Silver’s future never gets fucked and he doesn’t show up at all. Easy>>586968970Silver does not have enough fans to where he’s needed for the general fanbase size, lmao
>>586969163Silver is future themed to go along with Shadow and Sonic being past and present themedI like it
>>586969163That is like, his character, the dude from the future, that has futuristic powers, else you're going to end up with "a guy that looks like he came from the future" that is Sonics friend n°100
>>586969001There is a slim chance that he might ignore fandom drama and use her but i am not sure if sonic team or sega will likely tell him not to use her in a 06 adaptation in the slim chance this happens
SHITver only exists to "aura farm" but not actually do anything cool.
>>586969358Nigga you ARE a retard
>>586969267>There is a slim chance that he might ignore fandom dramaIf he knows about fandom drama, it will be through Tyson Hesse who is tuned in and works very closely on the movies. The same Tyson that threw Frontiers Amy development under the bus by including the line that she was already spreading love with the world in Tailstube.Anything regarding Blaze is too early to call though.
>>586969570I like how he was drawn super-intimidating in the caves when confronting Blackwood only to get immediately BTFO and then sissified
>>586969306He can be the inverse of Shadow who is strongly associated with his tragic past
>>586969619>This guy looks cool to me and i feel bad about itPussy.
>Shadow gets cucked in the past by watching Maria get killed>Sonic gets cucked in the present for having Amy get stolen by Shadow>Silver gets cucked in the future by having Blaze date Sonic soonHOLY FUCK
>>586969690Evan
>>586969671>that threw Frontiers Amy development under the busWHAT Frontiers development you mouth-breathing troglodyte??
>>586960732>So incredibly talented.Who's gonna tell the poor guy?
>>586969765>This guy being here means I failedRetard
Chance for a movie trailer at the geoff shit in december?
>>586969671I am moreso curious how involved sega/sonic team in the process than anything else, like would they tell him to not do certain ideas or add certain things because they are controversial or do they not care besides basic mandates
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>>586969282silver is already shitty friend 9000 that giving the future to another character wouldn't make him worse or that character better
>>586969414>Silver does not have enough fans to where he’s needed for the general fanbase size, lmaoHe has enough fans mr Blazefag, enough fans that they want to get money from, more than Shitaze.
>>586968250Thanks, you too.
>>586969842>WHAT Frontiers developmentMy point exactly retard. It ruined the talking point that Amy went through any development at all and exposed that she was already doing the things people claimed she was being "developed" to do
Kirby doesn't need a core 4 cast, most of his adventures is just him going solo and nobody complainsso why can't Sonic?
>>586970102I'm gonna post some more Amys, don't mind me.
>>586970150Don't you call me a retard, retard, no one BUT FUCKIN' NO ONE gives a flying FUCK about Flynn's script for Frontiers and everyone and THEIR WHORE MOTHER has RIGHTFULLY IGNORED EVERYTHING about Frontiers EXCEPT Sage because she's a CYBERSPACE LOLI and that's KINDA BASED but EVERYTHING ELSE basically DOESN'T EXIST do you UNDERSTAND??? FUCKER?!?!
>>586969690What do you mean? he was fighting blaze at full strength and a giant robot dragon while protecting a very cute OC.
>>586970304
>>586969671>pushed the submit button on his NEW YEARS video 24 hours after Sonic on Bumblekast died so Ian and his retard fanbase couldn't get a word in edgewiseYeah, I'm thinking this man is indeed unfathomably based.
Sorry shitazefagsBut GODver is just important for the cast
>>586970528
>>586967506This
What's the appeal of Lanolin...?
>No rights for Rush>Iblis is gone>Amy is getting the main strong girl treatmentBlaze is not appearing in the movies
>>586970717(Hope this artist is okay. She went private some days ago.)
>>586970150>It ruined the talking point that Amy went through any development at allGood.
>>586967506You mean like Boom?
>>586970863>Amy is a main girl now>Blaze reduced to shipping baitholy fuck...
>>586970910
>>586971003I mean like every game, cartoon, and movie that was fine without them i.e most of the franchise
>>586970045okay but does it have to look at us like that as it destroys us
>>586971104
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>>586965502Ian himself used the term. We didnt invent it
>>586967506You can say that about any side character you don't like
>>586971274
>>586971039It's crazy how they're getting reverse treatment. Blaze would have been the perfect candidate for all the virtue signaling female empowerment need no man bullshit but instead they're forcing it onto Amy and simultaneously making it extremely obvious how surface level and fake it all is by letting Blaze become what larpers think Amy is
>>586971326OH WOW!!!!!!!!!! IAN ---->HIMFUCKINGSELF<----You know he used to post here right
>>586965502It's Team Sonic* or STK*core 4 is revisionism
>>586966165No, you're just retarded and dont see hoe your logic is bad. We get it just fine. Its just retarded.Silver's contributions mattering isn't different from anyone else's just because he comes from the future.If Silver was just a dude from the present, his absence or presence woulf be the same. What him being from the future does, is give his contribution flavor and raise the stakes.How is him helping different than how on SA2, Amy talking to Sjadow is what allows them to win?
>>586971435
>>586971463Knuckles has less reasons to always hang with Sonic than Amy
>>586971605
>>586971185God I hope they fix the moon in Majora NS2, 3DS version fucking ruined it with the nignose because WOWIE THREE-DEE bullshit.
>>586971704nobody cares about your autism. people like team sonic
>>586971785
>>586971928
>>586972109That's all for now. Still sitting on a bunch, though. Please enjoy エミー.
Amybros being respectful about their image dumpingI appreciate it
The canon future is flavorless
If your character can only work as thr center of attention lead main character and can't work as a supporting character, then that suggest the character isn't that strong of a character.
fiona?
>>586972598Fioner has died .
>>586971853this could be said for all things Sonic, but autists get triggered about people liking things they don't
>>586972649Wrong.
>>586972575 Every character has worked as a supporting character. It's fans that don't want them to be anything but the main
>>586969228>If they need his heads up, yes that does make them look worse.Damn dude. Tikal sure made everyone look bad in SA1.Tails made Sonic look horrible when he explained their was a tear in the dimensions in Rush. What annawful character!Professor Pickle made Sonic look like a retard over the Gaia Manuscripts!This is what you sound like.
STOP LIKING EVIL ANTHROS
>>586971463As an Amy fan, I agree with this poll. Not because I don't like Amy being part of the main group, she's been hanging with them for about as long as she's been around (even getting spots in side games before Knuckles came around), but because Team Sonic is very much STK. Amy has proven her own leadership skills and has led several teams of her own and I don't really so much like how Sega wants to consider her part of Team Sonic now.
>>586972883Proofs ?
What was Mina's problem with Nicole
>>586973036realistically who could stop them
>>586973192No one can stop Super Big. We're lucky he's too simple and nice to actually do any real damage to the universe.
Can you make Rouge wear less
>>586970863>>Amy is getting the main strong girl treatmentShe was getting that since SA1.
>>586973056I'm fucking her right now as I'm posting. That's my pro.vof
>>586973192>Cheese getting a super formIT'S FUCKIN' OVER
remove silver from the future and most of the complaints will go away
>>586971445What's your point? He posted here before the therm was coined here.
>>586973269Big being strong is Archie stuff
>>586973482Anon, I don't really know how to tell you this...
>>586973482like how he was the power character in sonic heroes? wow the games are archiekino
>>586972931>Every character has worked as a supporting characterBlaze.
>>586973324O k good point , I 'm jappy for you .
>>586973596SA1 came out during Archie's tenure, therefore it's Archie stuff.
>>586971463Both are bad
>>586973454The point is that Ian Flynn doesn't make executive decisions about what is and isn't included in the games, he only writes localized dialogue.
These new captcha are fucking horrendous.
>>586973702let me guess. it should be sonic and tails and robotnik and no one else
>>586973482Bro sitting on top of Poser Hill
>>586973192The senpai
>>586973749They get easier after a couple days if you don't delete your cookies.
>>586973642Blaze supported Silver in 06
>>586973658>Rouge first appeared in Archie's SA2 preview (#98)GodDAMMIT
>>586973734Right, and he gets info from Sneedga. Ehy eould he call them the power 4/core 4 if they weren't?Sonic Team have even made statements about Amy being pushed to be part of the main 4 around Adventure.
>>586973847oh sure we get a shirtless eggman but sage cant be shirtless too??
>>586973907The guy says random made up shit all the time?
>>586973794No, the groups should be shuffled more for character variety in general
>>586973879No one liked it though. People bitch and moan about it
>>586973028but they are pretty
>>586973880
>>586973734Ian Flynn is just a glorified localizer. Why does Sonic Team still keep him around? He's a waste of money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6HO6WIEVjEWow Wrath of Nazo is cool
>>586974049I don't care. That's a fan issue
>>586973982Read the rest of the post.
>>586973879>>586973642>>586973879Not really 06 but she worked as being less relevant than marine in RA.06's problem is moreso lack of context on why she is there/why she doesn't know sonic or the general bland writing than her being support role necessarily
>>586973880secretary looks better, wtf
>>586974173Completely unreal
>>586970209>so why can't SonicSA1 established a lot of player expectations. While 3&K technically started it, 3D blast and the Saturn hiatus gave ST an out that they ignored for Sonic's first proper next generation game which locked Sonic down to being an ensemble series.
>>586973982Read the rest of the post>>586974230Okay, let me steeling you here. Even if you don't thibk 06 Blaze is bad. (I dont either) can you say in good faith that she was particuarly great and you look forward to seeing her in supporting roles?
>>586974323>Not really 06 but she worked as being less relevant than marine in RA.I mean not exactly. RA takes place in her dimension, cutting off access to the entire rest of the cast in order to make her relevant.
>>586970209>Kirby doesn't need a core 4 castBut enough about the Kirby, Dedede, MetaKnight BandanaDee quartet.Which also used to be Kirby,Dedede,MetaKnight prior to BandanaDee getting pushed more.
Who would win, Super Sonic vs Sonic.EXE
every game needs the warrior, the priest, the wizard, and the thief
>>586974704Most sonic stories don't really have a giant cast at once to beginw with, the story starts the focus with sonic, tails and marine with blaze coming in later. as for 06, although a lot of agendafagging is involved in the discourse, i think if we are being in good faith the obvious issues it has doesn't actually stem from ''not being main'' but logistical writing issues.
>>586975054(me)>>586974704the issues being, why is she even in the future? why doesn't she know sonic if this story is post rush? if we are supposed to be invested in silver and blaze's friendship, why don't we know how they met and bonded etc.
>>586974364Yes, there once was a time when a Sonic comic artist can, indeed draw human women...
>>586975167first feet pic I've found funny guess there's a first for everything
>>586973880It's not great but i am nostalgic for the how to draw anime style
>>586974560>Okay, let me steeling you here. Even if you don't thibk 06 Blaze is bad. (I dont either) can you say in good faith that she was particuarly great and you look forward to seeing her in supporting roles? If they can do as well as 06 and SRA Blaze then that's fine enough for me
>>586974864Yeah right, here Kirby's REAL core team.I known their Chaotix tier.
>>586973880Rogue the Rat is an Archie carrocter...
>>586974864I like that the new Air Ride pushed Bandana Waddle Dee aside for the regular one but I still wish the sailor won out (Gooey's still better than both but whatev)
>>586975054>Most sonic stories don't really have a giant cast at once to beginw with, the story starts the focus with sonic, tails and marine with blaze coming in later.It's kind of missing my point. Blaze herself isn't a particuarly interesting supporting character. Rush Adventure is more acceptable than remarkable because it takes place in her Dimension.>think if we are being in good faith the obvious issues it has doesn't actually stem from ''not being main'' but logistical writing issues.I don't agree. If she was psrticuarly fun in the role, people would be making way more excuses for it than they are. Its kind of like Knuckles. If Knuckles is not on his Island, then how much people tolerate or let it slide is based on how meaningful his presence in thr story is.People are mixed on him in Forces but people dont complain that he was a poorly used supporting character because him being present for an Eggman world war is compelling.
>>586975876People complained about tails and knuckles being poorly used for all the time to be honest, blazefags are particularly loud and victimize themselves more but i also notice their fans talk about them being poorly used in meta era or even later half of 00s.
>>586975264See>>586975876I just feel like people are generally just going to be forgiving and bias if the thing they get is something that they like or is actually good.If you wanna say Blaze works as a supporting character ehen theybare in her Dimension, thrn I guess I can concede on that. But that's still requiring we change the entire setting to revolve around her to make her able to do the bare minimum then.
>>586973880Reminds me of this. Also, she predates Rouge by like 7 years.
>>586976332if the bat face wasnt there i would dobut the bat face is there so its not
Sonic equivalent to this?
>>586976091Sure, but that has less to do with them being poor supporting characters and more to do with them wanting them to also be used more prominently as main characters.Though, I do think there is an argument to be made Knuckles isn't that strong of a supporting character either. Most of yhe fun with hom mostly just comes fr his fun dynamic woth Sonic. Which you can say is enough, but based on what you are saying, seems to not br the case.
>>586976091>>586976298I don't think this is unique to blaze herself, it's just that, due to the type of character she is, her fans are uniquely loud and obnoxious. but i've seen knuckles fans also complain about how poorly he was utilized for meta era or late 00s like rush or 06. don't get me wrong, blazefags are way more obnoxious than knucklesfags and if blaze ever gets completely vaulted or never gets in anything besides racing games, it will be the fault of her fags themselves, but still.
>>586976525sonic
>>586971556>Silver's contributions mattering isn't different from anyone else's just because he comes from the future.Yes it literally is. Because he has ZERO reason to be there at all if what happens doesn’t impact his future, and the only way it would is if Sonic and co lose.
>>586976650>>586976542Amy fans and the rare cream fans i know are practically the only people i know where they are happy with supporting roles (and for cream its because she was never a main to begin with)
>>586976817That's because I know Cheese is a gag character so if Cream was treated as mainline it would break the setting's power scaling and fuck up everything
>>586973192>>586973847Interesting, the “super forms are sacred and should only be for male hedgehogs” crowd, that usually cries up a storm when super Tails and Knuckles are brought up, is nowhere to be seen here
>>586976690>he has ZERO reason to be there at all if what happens doesn’t impact his future.....why are you pretending this is an issue? Also you're being uncreative. He could be after something from the past that he doesnt have access to in his time as well.>and the only way it would is if Sonic and co loseWhy are you pretending this is an issue? Also it isn't even necesarily true. It could be for a reason not directly tied to Sonic and friends winning or losing if its something personal to him from the future.
>>586977082I'm not sure why people are being uniquely bad faith about a basic time traveler story
>>586976817I do see a lot of Amyfans want to see Amy in more prominent leading roles, but I do think its true they are less anal about it, mostly because Amy's most prominent moments have been supportive to begin with.For what its worth, Sonicfags dont seem to have an issue with him being ina support role either.Its more casual audiences I think that have an issue with it.Same with Amy if I am being honest. A lot of people say she peaked on SA1, and frankly I feel its because that was the only story focused game where she was the lead of her own story.
>>586977068Because no one is taking it seriously, kek.
>>586977483>I look over here, I look over there...???
>>586977483Not saying amyfags never do it, but they like her sa2 and 06 roles which have her as a support. but Tails, Knuckles,Shadow,Silver etc. fags don't really like most support roles either. i don't think it's a uniqe trend to blaze even if i still think blazefags are uniquely bad.
>>586977347It's so transparent as well. Shadow can have alien neurotoxins that only he is immune to in order to make it so he's the only one to stop Space Satan, but Silver can't show up and have the honor of getting his ass wooped in the right place at the right time to help the ROOKIE get a mcguffin to save the say and stop Infinite?I'm not even a Shitverfag, but that person is just being a dishonest clown.
>>586977082>He could be after something from the past that he doesnt have access to in his time as well.>It could be for a reason not directly tied to Sonic and friends winning or losing if its something personal to him from the future.These don’t tie into anything or mean anything aside from just giving Silver something to do. If he has no real reason to be there, he shouldn’t be. Let him enjoy his peaceful future
>>586977905>Silver can't show up and have the honor of getting his ass wooped in the right place at the right time to help the ROOKIE get a mcguffin to save the say and stop Infinite?no>Shadow can have alien neurotoxins that only he is immune to in order to make it so he's the only one to stop Space Satansilver can have this in his game where he is the lead and sonic is the supporting character
Why does Haruki Satomi conflate review scores with fan reception when those are historically not at all guaranteed to match?
>>586977764I think insult to injury was Blaze having "amnesia" in 06, not exactly her playing support to another character.It's out of character for her to forget her "muh duty" and focus on the goals of another character, if that part can be at least explained and not ignored right away, I think it's not THAT much of an issue.
>TailsChannel
>>586978340I mean Solaris is superdimensional, it actually would make sense for her to be there if they actually explained anything but the presentation is shit, most likely because the silver story section of the game is the most unfinished one.>>586977905It's usually tailscel agenda where they are threatened by an ''undeserving character'' surpassing them (shadow has too much popularity and substance for them to pretend he is undeserving compared to core 4) or just fandom drama agenda where they are annoyed at specific silver/blazefags rather than the work itself.
>>586977905I don’t like giving Shitdow gary stu powers either thank you very much
Would Sonic be more popular if he was non verbal
>>586978230>you can only have cool things if you are the main characterCan you at least see why people want their fave to be the main character then? People don’t like their characters being support in this franchise because this franchise has proven that they won’t get the proper respect unless they are the main focus
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>>586976817Amy is a perfect supporting role character to begin with. If you like Amy, it's probably because of something she's done in a support role, like her interactions with Gamma, Shadow, or Silver that all have impacts on the plot. Speaking for myself, at least.>>586977483I wouldn't mind more prominent roles. If we truly do get what's effectively a Frontiers 2 with multiple playables as our next main game, I'd love to see Amy get her own route. Not that I necessarily or at all trust Ian in the writer's chair for such a route, especially after Frontiers, but I think there's potential to give her another story for herself that can really let her shine like SA1 did. But as long as she gets some meaningful moments, support or otherwise, I'll be happy.
>>586978231Probably cultural disconnect? The separation between being a fan and being a journo isnt as pronounced in Japan from what I can tell.But I might be hallucinating that
>>586978898That isn't even what that was.
>>586983653That’s exactly what it is
