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barely a month after AC8 and we're irredeemably dead againjust kill this general for good and have the few regular autists move to a private discord server or something
>>587111808I hate half the autists here, 4chan allows a good enough seperation from them, discord is way too intimate.
>>587111808>discord
Me and my brother went to an airshow today. It was pretty fun honestly, got to see an F-22 show off some pretty cool tricks, and I got to see an F-18 in person today. Cheers to that anon who told me to bring ear protection. I think I'll be going to more of them, that was genuinely fun.
>>587104457Take the Gripen pill
Guy joins my emergency sortie and unchecks the ready as soon as everyone is good to go F another killed by bamcode
>>587112319I'm incredible jealous. There was an air show in my shitty little town, but I just happened to have shit to do that day. They even had a DC propeller transport plane, can't remember which one exactly in working order.
Anyone having the game absolutely refusing to start searching for a match if you are in a party? I am always getting that matching canceled message.
>>587112319I remember that post. Glad you had fun anon.Hopefully your area will have even more soon enough>>587112668Relog / relaunch was the only thing that fixed it for me
>>587112668I had this, was giving me ST-120something error. Going to main menu and back into online worked.
>>587103908They're all fairly viable, just use them when they'd be appropriate unlock-wise.>A-10 and Su-25 aren't great but early missions don't ask for much>A-6 will become your friend because it's the only carrier attacker>F-2's speed, UGBs, and LASMs handle mid game missions well>F-15E and Su-34 are the latest attackers you get. SFFS/UGBL are great and HCAA is a very useful if unremarkable air SPW. UGBLs are easier to use than SFFS, HCAA ammo is slightly (like, 2) higher on the F-15E
The MiG-31B is a perfectly respectable airplane.
>>587113484The Eurofighter Typhoon is one of the leading combat aircraft in the world.
>>587112853>>587112616Yeah, I typically don't get that much time to hang out with my own kin anymore but him and I are thinking about making it a yearly thing. There is another one closer to May in Texas, so we'll probably do that. So most of it was just like various flying clubs trying to recruit, which is whatever. But I found out that A&P Mechanics is like a 38k tuition and for a career field that involves me working on planes and doesn't involve me paying out the ass for a PPL due to flight hours, fuel and renting, I might look into that. Honestly, I would encourage other /aceg/ anons to try and to their local shows. Hanger boomers are probably the most entertaining and educational people to talk to, and it was neat doing an F-35 simulation ontop of doing the stupid Airforce VR aptitude test where they basically make you play beat saber and phone captcha.
>>587113484Your mom is a perfectly respectable lady.
my personal headcanon as to why Rex ended up as a backseater for Kate is that command or the XO saw the kind of maneuvers Rex had to go through to fight Tewy and figured he needed to give his body a break
No but seriouslyI've had to bake the last 4 breads including this one, and it was more than a whole hour before the previous thread died and I made this oneSome of you niggas need to step up and bake every now and then, I may be a sorry ass neet with too much time on my hands but I may not always be here to resurrect the general
A or B type High G?
>>587113630>Hanger boomersThe small airfield in my town has a small museum kept up by them. I posted some pictures from there in to the previous thread.
>>587113785>I may be a sorry ass neetThis is the same as you volunteering to do it every time. I have a job.
>>587113990Yeah, so I got mistaken for air crew at least 3-4 times today because I went in my bootleg Rex fit. The local hanger boomer here owns a T-33 in decent condition, it was pretty unique to see Lockheed Martin's older engineering vs the newer stuff they got now.
Owari da
>>587113825B so you can go back to games without it and not have to rewire your muscle memory
>>587114156>my bootleg Rex fityou can't say that without showing it to the class
>>587113825Whichever one requires pressing both throttle and brake at the same time so you can break without doing high g.
>>587114378I mean it was a pair of proppers in Navy Green and an open face biking helmet I found off of amazon. I'm the anon who posted the rex decal set I was working on the other day for said helmet. It's in the print shop right now, so I didn't have time to apply it for the air show.
>Anons voted for the Rafale as the best triangleGuess we're all French here?
>>587114770no it just proves that the typhoon is the high IQ choice (bell curve distribution)
>>587114770Our economy relies on mercs like us.
>>587114770I don't have the image of the smug rafale that looks like a snail but use your imagination.
>>587114770If we're going by looks alone (and we know we absolutely are) then the Mirage 2000 is a much nicer looking dorito plane than the Rafale.
What does cost do, am I paying every time I sortie?
Pretty impressive. He wasn't even afk or anything, I saw him changing course and stuff.
>>587113484>Like my Migger because fuck heuge engines and need for speed>Slow as shit>Also meta so I look like a metafag just for flying my planefu agony
>>587115482Its just a measure for balancing that the game barely uses
>go out for a casual sightseeing flight over fort greys islands>some mercs who must be so desperate for money start fighting each other>fly away, don't care>accidently get some reward points?>apparently my radar painted some target and assisted in focused targeting boost>get paid the same as the other guys without sweating my ass.
>>587115331
>>587111808You haven't been here in the lull between ACI and 7, or between 7 and 8. /aceg/ has never been so fast for so long, yet you think it's dead.
>>587115734Fly whatever you enjoy flying and if anyone has anything to say about call them a faggot belkan cunt.
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>>587116652Sotoan
>>587115734I know the feeling.>flying the Typhoon since AC7's launch>have to develop fighting techniques to keep up with the meta planes, and love beating them despite being at a disadvantage>AC8 releases>it goes from viable to the best LAAM slinger in the gameAlthough, it's funny how it's still so severely outclassed by the meta picks in a dogfight, which is what I do most of the time anyway.
please give me 5 on pc
"MIGGERS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this airspace before. There could be MIGGERS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his canopy. "I HATE MIGGERS" he thought. My Blue Sky Home reverberated his entire plane, making it pulsate even as the $9 wine circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of laams after dark. "With a plane, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
>>587113742>the last four missions happen within the span of a single dayYou just know we were flying 100% on go-pills by the end of it.
>>587116965https://pcsx2.net/
>>587117604NTA but i want it on steamand i want it NOW.NOW I SAID
>>587116226Our economy relies on smugness like us.
>>587117436When was the last time we had something like that? ACZ with 16/17/18 on the same day?
>>587116951>Every other plane and its mother gets HCAA>Typhoon loses HCAA and instead gets fucking 4AAMNot even a Typhoon pilot, but it's a travesty. HCAA, while capable, isn't even that strong versus QAAM and SASM.
>>587117918>he paid money for turd arisin'
https://poal.me/duwfwkhttps://poal.me/duwfwkhttps://poal.me/duwfwk
>>587116652A true ace!
>>587115482high cost means longer respawn
>>587119319All ace combat games will disappear because of licensingYou cannot legally obtain AH anymore on official venues
>>587116652Biblically accurate Cope
>>587119710tha's a good thinglet that garbage game be forgotten forever
>>587115482Cost increases your respawn time. However I'm not sure if it goes off your full cost or just the base cost of your aircraft. Aircraft levels don't factor into cost for whatever reason.
I managed to kill someone with HPAA in MP, this is probably never going to happen ever again.
Random Kate.
>>587120028>Yellow eyesThat's Shadow Kate.
>>587119558why the fuck would you include unplayables/future DLCs? How the fuck should we know?
>>587120193you know you can have a favorite plane outside of ace combat?
>>587119989You better put some money into that jet for when they add red & gold arsenal bird
Shadow skin a SHIT
>>587120130I don't think any artist has actually drawn a character with the correct eye color yet now that I have come to think about it? Tasha for example keeps seemingly getting portrayed with green eyes from what I can find when it should be a brown/hazel color.
>>587120417Which F1 livery would make the best plane livery?
>>587120634Which one would best to advertise Long Caster on it?
>>5871206341997 Ferrari
>>587121049Sauber I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6gVNCtNEr8top 5 mission in the whole series
>>587121347It's not even the top 5 mission in ac8
>>587113687>By God, we shall ram into the party search!
what's the lore for toprak's theme being prog rock and tewy's being bombastic orchestra and choruses?
>>587121843He's a big ELP fan
>>587121843The shadows theme is the larper version of song while tewy retains the original
I like how the moments of Wings becoming real happen in tandem with the moments of the Soats being exposed as fakers in such rhythm
I hate how the super hornets use the 10 missile loadout instead of the 12 missile loadout despite being better in every way and the empty pylons looking retarded
>>587119558>2026>I'm forgotten
>>587124116I shan't forget the Strongest Attacker craft Ustio has ever produced!
Tasha gets her callsign after cruz dies
>>587123914I require pics for comparison
>>587125728we know
>>587123265EL-P?https://youtu.be/xUE8lgY48Ag
Coster sees Tasha as a younger sister, only
Rex sees Kate as a coworker and nothing else.
Anything can happen in the millenium challenge nigga
>>587126864
ever found out who's this lady?
Belka did nothing wrong
I'm gonna say itPlaying Growler is fun___
>>587126479ELPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGGpBXd7ToA
Post racist Baxter
>>587127152What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm gonna say itBeing in the same lobby as a Morgan is cancer
I haven't seen that many morgans in warfare since the ecm nerf and the event started, allowing people to get other high end planes. Now it's laamspam everywhere.
>>587127003In the last mission XO complements one of the radar girls for having a nice voice and the radar girl says she and her sister were in the Navy band so it might be one of them
I am no longer amused by LAAMs sucking any fun out of online. Nerf their tracking rate from 150 to 15.
Why do I always have questionable teammates against the sweatiest niggas in warfare? Is mig 29 with hcaa meta or something?
>>587128210You have 3 options1. use them yourself2. play attackers3. play warfare and hunt the miggers
>>587127515Baxter isn't racist
>>587127582It's pretty much the only time I feel useful in Warfare
>maxed out Su-57 flies in and immediately starts spamming QAAMs and high G turns>Gets blapped by a SAAMYou love to see it
>>587128083She's performing Coster's song, and she plays the bass, I want the whole tea.
>>58712821015 would be unusably low, just give them 50 or something like a regular missile.
>>587128393how useful is ECM against fully built LAAM, QAAM and SASM anyway?
>>587128210Literally just swap their turn rate with HVAA's. That's all they need to do.
>has the urge to replay AC7 after finishing AC8>totally forgot the plot and most of the missions>might as well replay it in Ace while getting it to S-rank>tons of annoying missions to S-rank>pipeline destruction part 2>faceless soldier>fucking dronespam>so many ground attack missions with drone enemies>only cleared up to fleet destruction so farNo wonder I stopped my ace S-rank playthrough long ago and my impression of the game was just meh. I bet there will be more annoying missions. AC8 is a better game because it has no annoying missions.
>>587128767>LAAMNot very because they're out of your bubble>SASMMakes it really annoying to lock on so it's hard to hit you/your allies>QAAMNot sure, the insane lock angle might give them enough time to lock anyway and splash your assBut popping ESM next to friendlies and seeing the enemy names pop up in the kill feed with "ESM Assist" is such a good feeling
>>587128975I don't get why people say 7 is the easiest one.
>>587129082>ESM Bonus>ECM Bonus>Focused Targeting>DecoyIt's the best
>>587128975it feels like talking to a space alien when I see someone say 7 has better mission design than 8the only missions that are a drag to play in 8 are land battleship theve and avoid the green bubbles in a flareless intruder
SAAMs are fun. The trick is turning off your tracking radar until the missiles have dumbfired into position. Watch the wacky shit my missile does on radar. The 2nd missile. Not the 1st one that I sent into the ocean.
>>587128767If you're in range of ECM lockons don't work. They do technically work but it takes like 5 seconds of pointing right at the target to lock, which is effectively impossible against someone who's not afk. So SASM and QAAM are basically impossible to use while ECM is up.LAAM still works because you can shoot from outside the range though. Not sure if ECM fucks its homing or not so I'm not helpful.
>>587129270and Triumphant boss fight
>>587129432triumphant isnt all that bad, SLCM/missile pallet time is nice deflection shooting practice and the ending cutscene is so fuarking soulfuli even managed to sink it after emptying my gun magazine by spamming wingman direct fire
>>587129148>so many clouds obstructing your vision>drones that will evade your missiles unless you use qaam or stagger your missiles>wind that will blow your plane into the mountains>thunderstorms that will fuck up your radar and targeting>long day mission has drones and a very tight time limit to even clear it normally>easyI don’t know what they’re smoking
>>587129432The problem with that mission is the boring part where you have to shoot down the slcms. Other than that the mission is actually kino and perfect for an epilogue. Also AC3 reference with the mirv missiles
>>587129727Yeah, drones are piss easy in 8 compared to 7. Drones in 7 are only easy to deal with if you bring MGP or PLSL.
>>587129148It takes a while to unlock it, but after you get the health regen part it becomes very hard to die. If you don't take multiple hits in the short amount of time you just regen it and don't give a shit.>>587129697Triumphant is that bad. It's like 10 minutes of spawn camping missiles, this isn't fucking fun.>>587129727>long day mission has drones and a very tight time limit to even clear it normallybro
>>587129727Long Day and Fleet Destruction are my comfort missions in 7, just blow shit up for 15 minutes.
>>587129432Lamest final mission of a numbered game, killed the game's momentum for a nice ending.
>>587127003she's wearing a Theve City Fire Department uniformso she's probably part of the crew of the helicopter that picks you up in the prologueI doubt that any other fire department people other than the helicopter crew would still be hanging around on the ship at that point, and I doubt that someone would just be wearing that uniform for the hell of it if it were someone else's clothesincidentally, the letters in the middle of the "TFD" logo on her shoulder look a lot like the TTC logo (the public transit system in Toronto, which of course Theve is based on)
>>587130013The issue with recent AC difficulty levels is that getting hit just isnt very punishing and there are far more mechanics for evading missiles, especially in 8.You can PSM to shake off missiles, you get flares, you have high G turns, you have wingmen flares, you have EW aircraft, you can give wingmen EW aircraft, etcThey need to bring back the 1hk missiles on ace tbqh
>>587129727>2026>people are still complaining about Long Day>>587130415Wingmen flares are cool as fuck. Even watching Topkek's squad form up and flare was like straight out of an airshowBut yes they definitely need to up the difficulty. I'd love an "Ace Classic" that restricts certain parts (armor, anti-missile guidance), removes the missile cap, and reintroduces OHKO missiles
>>587130415Know how I beat harder difficulties in the PS2 games? I just zoom around the map at max speed and blow everything up and nothing can touch me. Much more easily solved than the modern titles. AC4 barely has any mandatory dogfighting.
>>587130415I've been playing Zero again since they gave it to me for preordering so I may as well and it's crazy getting nearly one shot by missiles on just hard difficulty. They do like double the damage on hard than 8's missiles do on ace.
>>587130248Fleet destruction is great because it’s a ground mission with no shitty gimmicks like drones or sandstorms
>>587130775It’s balanced with the missions being short as fuck
>>587130775>They do like double the damage on hard than 8's missiles do on ace.Not only that, but enemy missiles in the PS2 games are harder to spot visually, both in the world and on your radar. The good thing about increased graphical fidelity is that they give all the missiles nice big missile contrails.
>>587130415>They need to bring back the 1hk missiles on ace tbqhon nu-AC where a mission could unironically take half an hour? no thanks, bro
>fort gray>team has a f15 with sffs + mig 29 with hcaa>enemy team is full of laam/sasmThat's it I quit online
>>587131060nu-AC games are also hella generous with mission checkpointsalso its ace difficulty, its supposed to bust your balls a little for fucking up
>>587130715>watching Topkek's squad form up and flare was like straight out of an airshowFat lot of good that did for him against my gun
>>587130776So is Long Day, the closest thing that has to a gimmick is the terrain and maybe the drones at the end.
>>587091730>i actually wonder how much real air combat maneuvers work with the ace combat flight modelThe thing that dictates what tactics are prevalent really boils down to what weapon systems are effective, and what is the most effective way to defend from or utilize them. We rag on war thunder a lot, but it's kind of interesting to see how the tactics meta shifts through the battle ratings as the battle ratings change and different technologies come into play. At the lower tiers everyone's air to air weapons are just guns. The name of the game is mostly energy management. Having an altitude advantage over an opponent is huge since you can dive and become fast at will, while anyone climbing up to you is vulnerable. You want to be fast since it is hard to hit a fast target. 1v1 tactics tend to be about trying to stay on an opponent's six, or forcing the guy on your six to overshoot. Simply slamming on the airbrakes is generally a poor choice since that sacifices precious energy that is hard to claw back. So there are tactics to slow down movement in one direction by folding your flight path into rolls and climbs. Slowing down due to a climb is nice because it converts speed into altitude which can be converted back into speed in a dive. Eventually missiles come into play. The initial fox-2s are kind of ass, but longer ranged fox1s will fuck your shit and you will basically never EVER defeat a missile by pulling a hard turn alone. So the meta shifts. People stop climbing and they get low enough for ground interference to break radar locks. As look-down radars start filtering out ground clutter, some people start going lower to exploit the multipath effect while others go higher to try to strike from extreme ranges and stay out of the no-escape zone of anything sent back at them.
>>587131586>>587091730Ace combat unfortunately has what I think is one of the worst possible weapon/flight models to ever possibly try to PvP in. The missiles are shit. They are slow, they don't track well, and they attempt direct pursuit rather than follow intercept paths. Planes can pull higher G turns than the missiles for crying out loud. There is no specter of dying to missiles that you need to be a step ahead of to defeat since you can just do a flip and be fine. But the flight model doesn't really encourage gunfighting either. There is no waltz of maneuvers to drain the opponent of energy first since we have a near limitless pool of acceleration to draw from. It's also hard to draw a solid bead on anyone who is doing anything but fly in a straight line since the netcode is so fucking garbage. I hate to say it but the "meta tactic" for what we have is for everyone on your team to have enough braincells to dogpile the same target at a time and spam focus boosted missiles at him until enough of them get lucky. That or just use the laser. Which is why I think that they should focus on trying to improve the collaborative PvE experience rather than trying to make PvP work.
>>587131210mate, I don't want to deal with shadow QAAMs and their missile allergies AND oneshot bullshit after I wasted 30 minutes farming points, the checkpoint taking away your points is also a kick to the dick
>>587131687Or wait for someone to be distracted and throw a LAAM their way from BVR.
>>587132079its ace difficulty? you know, the difficulty level that only unlocks after you complete your first campaign run? because its meant to be hard?but theres basically zero difference from what i can tell between elite and ace in 8, which is an issue
>>587132228LAAM's are a problem because AI targets do NOTHING to evade them, so it completely fucks the scoring system. Any player that gets hit by a LAAM is suffering from a serious case of skill issue.
>>587129270Not that the missions in 8 are a drag, they're just fucking boring. Blow up all the green squares to win. Essentially no different from multiplayer. I like the gimmick missions in 7 just for the fact that they're different.Plus they casualized the fuck out of the mission design. No tunnel/canyon runs, infinite gun ammo, very powerful allies. And even then they still nerfed Ladons and Shadow 22.
>>587127423Very nice, listened for the duration with in-game music set to 0 while I did MP in a Phantom, very fitting.>King Crimson in the descriptionLove that band, even though it's a normalfag pick In the Court of the Crimson King is far and away my favorite track.
>>587132351if you want actual harder difficulty I'd take PW way over one shot bullshit, just give enemies LAAM and you're always in their range so missiles are all over the place, at least that promotes aggressive gameplay where you have to thin out the crowd before you get overwhelmed over that pussy ass shit where you have to stay away from the enemies and play boring and safely because your paper plane gets shredded by 1 AA gun pellet and missile
>>587132785every mission in 7 is also blow up all the green squares to win. except sometimes its a yellow square so you need to spend 20 seconds hovering over it to see if its a green square or a blue square>infinite gun ammodoes he know
>>587128415>my maxed out Su-57 flies in>127k points, 0 deathsfeels good man
>>587133402cringe and homosexual
>>587111808Quite the opposite, we're getting thread activity so thick and fast that we genuinely forget to get a new thread ready by the time we hit bump limit.
Drew this. Oddly enough, this fits him despite my initial thoughts.
>>587133930I quite like it, it was odd seeing your posts on xitter and saying to myself>wait a minute... I recognize that guy
>>587133424For what it's worth, I never touched a LAAMboat, and never consulted meta guides, I just thought she was prettiest, if she'd had the worst stats I'd still be flying her to 20.Really wish they'd give us the Pac-man livery though, love it. A bit worried they're gonna make PAKFA a separate plane and restrict it to that, since it's listed in the files.
>>587132961Except some missions you're fighting the weather when trying to line up a shot, or you have to navigate a dust storm, or you have a pretty strict time limit to reach a score, or you have an actually deadly altitude limit that you get punished hard for breaking, or you have to navigate a tight canyon, or you have the opportunity to score some big points by flying through oil platforms, or you have a tunnel run. Nothing like that beyond the canyon radar mission which is just a worse Faceless Soldier since you have to flight a fat and slow A-6.That's just off the top of my head after having not played the campaign since 2022. I still by far prefer 8's campaign just for its narrative and how good everything looks, but its mission design is definitely its weakest component.
So what is the actual power scaling for the Su-x7? Su-57>Su-37>Su-47>Su-27? 37 is always stronger than Berkuts in game, right?
>>587134467It's clear they dropped more complicated stuff due to it being a new engine. A shame, but at least they made up for it with the length of the campaign and quality of the story. Actually surreal how they made us utterly loathe Sotoa in a single game.
>>587134738In-game for PvP Su-47 is under the rest as it's a multirole. For PvE Su-47 = Su-27 and the rest is right. Still a multirole but the SpW on the 47 makes up for that heavily.
>>587134467>Except some missions you're fighting the weather when trying to line up a shot, or you have to navigate a dust stormunanimously bitched about endlessly prior to 8 as being really fucking awful design decisions
>>587134974I was talking about Ace Combat games in general, 47 in this game is nerfed to hell it isn't even funny, early game status for a former endgame craft is crazy
>>587134776Could've still added a tunnel or canyon run. The only tunnel run you have to do is the Fatsia one which is probably the most pathetic tunnel in the series' history.>>587135015I get why people disliked it, but I still like it for actually being a test of my skills since these games are really easy to me as a veteran. I just want something more than "Co-Op Assault with portraits talking your ear off".
The Intruder escape is the tunnel run
>>587134172As much as possible I try to not absolutely tie my posting here as on xitter, I post on different times. But thanks that you recognize me hehe.I kind of wanna participate on that Queen of /v/ thing but it appears its just a circlejerk of artists who live in a discord sucking off each other. Best I just make one for myself and the nominees I got in
>>587135595>Could've still added a tunnel or canyon run. The only tunnel run you have to do is the Fatsia one which is probably the most pathetic tunnel in the series' history.I think they had a lot of trouble with it for some reason. There's like 3 missions with proto-canyon runs, the C-130 escort (manpadds), battleship 03's starting bit, and uh... can't remember the other one. It's like they tried to make it work each time but gave up and retooled it. It's probably also why the one you do get is noguns and tediously slow with only one branching path, and even then it's still like 3x as wide as prior shortcuts.
Leveling the SU57 is putting me to sleep. QAAM's are so fucking boring.
>>587133930now draw him pregnant
>>587136526You're allowed to not fly planes you don't enjoy
>>587136526I wish they gave us Trinity, at least let us F2P have a makeshift MPBM for fuck sake
>>587136816I'm just praying for the Nosferatu's micromissiles.
>>587137012If they butcher my baby's ADMM I will never forgive them
>>587135015brainless 0/PWfags complain about everything that isn't an annihilation mission, 8 is worse off for listening to them
>>5871372737's ADMMs were already super nerfed from 6, that's the version you're getting.
>>587131687>>587132228I've been trying to make PvP work in a SASM Eagle, and while it's really fucking good, anyone who tries to dogfight for longer than 30 seconds is just LAAM bait. One of you will get popped by a LAAM slinger that's not even involved in the dogfight before they go back to farming NPCs and scoring on par with the Attacker. LAAM players aren't that dangerous once you focus on them, but all you need to do is head off to focus on something else (teammates asking for help, constant missile alarms from circling QAAMs) and you get popped.
>>587138234LAAMs really aren't a problem at all from a PvP perspective. The problem with LAAMs is that the AI won't try to take evasive action whatsoever if you are further than 6km from the target, so a LAAMboat just rolls his face on the keyboard and receive a free NPC kill with every click. They're not even like LACMs with long reload timers. They can just ripple them off like candy and targets disintegrate without fail before anyone else can snag any of the PvE air kills. It's a bigger issue in assault mode than warfare.
>>587138641I've said it before, you could easily counter all the issues with LAAMs by forcing the AI to flare once, just like they do in scramble, but less extreme.
>>587138641Even in Warfare, I'm trying to build up my score at the beginning to get a higher multiplier and the LAAM boats on my team are sniping all my targets. Even if I pick something that isn't being targeted, they target it for a split second, fire, swap to another target, the green arrow disappears but then the target dies. Maybe I'm just supposed to immediately throw myself at the enemy team, but then the LAAM player snipes my kills there too. It feels like I'm just a sacrificial distraction, in which case I should be piloting a Fishbed.
>>587138641>>587138903LAAMs have:>2nd best damage>2nd best reload>1st best range>2nd best homing angle>1st best turn rateThey're just overtuned. AI being dumb is a problem, but it's not the only reason why LAAMs are strong.
>>587139707IMO the reload is the most egregious issue after the AI not reacting to them. QAAMs have their reload time BUFFED in Online in exchange for a damage nerf, and they're still slower than LAAMs.
>>587119710That won't matter in AC9, all the significant planes in AC3 were PA originals, not to mention the canopyless COFFIN look means they can just appropriate whatever IRL planes they want into originals.
>>587139941My favourite is 2AAMs which gets worse reload, less damage, less range and worse tracking, but at least you can lock onto 2 targets at once!
>>587139707>1st best turn rateThis is understating it, too. It's not just the best turn rate, they have DOUBLE the turn rate of QAAMs.
>>5871378327's ADMMs are still very powerful so that's fine
>>587135015Retard
>>587129371Does it unlock SAAM from the start or you have to grind it?
>>587142776The Su-47 has SAAM unlocked by default, but the ability that increases your damage vs air targets by 30% isn't unlocked until you finish leveling it up to level 20.
>>587140335>top tier planes are once again the coffin Su-37 and Su-47, the delphinus, and the xfa-36Ace combat is healing...
Can Tasha get medals or any decorations from the navy even though she's civvie? And it's not her country's navy?
>>587143189Probably not. And a Yuktobanian participating in a war to this extent where her country is neutral is already absurd. Tasha's involvement should be kept a secret from the brass let alone the public.
>>587143189She’s not a civvie anymore after retaking of theve 2. She’s an ensign on the mission after that cutscene
>>587143313Civilians acting as mercenaries in foreign conflicts isn't unheard of.
>>587140428>Locks onto the same bomber twice
Do I have to wear a helmet while at base waiting for a mission?It get unconfortable after a while
>>587143179I hope xae-36 gets pre-nerf IEWS so I can be cancer again
>>587133930I like it. I was thinking though, that perhaps a Sasanian helmet or one from a Central Asian people would look even better
THIS IS THE NAIAD _____________
>>587143641Is she on the FCU's payroll tho? I got the impression she's a volunteer, which is a big no-no in her case.
>>587136491i don't think they had trouble as much as they wanted to avoid making missions that could be easily speedran so the time limit is an actual challenge. canyon runs are trivialized by fast planes so they added reasons to slow you down. the fatsia tunnel is easy but you also can't avoid flying it as a tunnel run. my guess for the land battleship is that those were originally a tunnel run since you can fly under them next to the tracks, but either a cracked bomber could end that phase too early or a bad pilot could time out there so they replaced it with trucks.
>>587143445This is why Japs can't into politics, how is a Yuktobanian an ensign in a foreign air force? Fighting in a war where her country isn't involved?
>>587146528She was originally contracted to film aerobatic performances for recruitment videos. The game doesn't delve into why she opted to participate in Joker flight instead of just fleeing the conflict back to Yuktobania. Knowing the Sotoans, they probably don't differentiate between military and civilian targets, and the route to Yuktobania was blocked by the rainband.
>>587146618Ask the same question to a lot of soldiers in ukraine and countries that haven't formally entered that war.
>>587146618>Fighting in a war where her country isn't involved?Wouldn't be unheard of
>>587147202holy shit, is that Anthony Cumia?
>>587146528You can see on her uniform and portrait she is officially part of the FCU and she does officially join after liberating Theve. Not sure why she is still using Yuke tags though cause you'd think that would be one of the first things they would change to make it clear she is FCU. Then again the devs play it a bit retarded with protocol a lot.
>>587128392Can't be racist against Sotoans when they aren't even people!>>587133930Now draw Baxter calling him a nomad!>>587146618They can't figure out military protocol either although I think this might be down to mistranslation more than anything else. Like how they never bring up that Kate is actually the squadron leader in game you are just a flight leader.
>>587146618Tasha's dad is Yuke KGB or whatever they call it. She's his cover so that Yuktobania can coordinate and directly feed intel to the FCU. Post war, the Yukes want the FCU in their camp, seeing as the Erusea is most likely an Osean puppet now.
>>587125728Better than her previous callsign.
>>587127003At first I thought it was Jackpot 9, but given that there’s a chance you might not be able to save it (I saved it) and the video is still the same, I ruled that out.
About to do an attacker run, what's the best plane for m28/29/30?
>>587151638F-15E or Su-34. I'd go with the former because it has the light gun, which is easier to aim, and SFFS.
buddies I have played everything except for 3, 7 and 8
>>587150308>The civilians start to disembark from the Endurance after M09>Tasha is disembarking>Tasha's dad is still hanging out with you as if he's supposed to be thereYeah, he definitely glows.
>>587152967I would stop worrying bout it if I were you
>>587152459Then, I would suggest you to play them in that order
Man, I really regret spending all that MRP on the X-40. What a piece of shit.
>>587154106It's an investment to get the damage mitigation part behind it for your No Damage campaign run.
why do people prefer Felon over Game in warfare? SASM is objectively superior to QAAM, so what is the reasoning?
I beat AC8 on Ace difficulty, my first ace combat game I beat on Ace, maybe I'm still not good enough to s rank all mission sbut I will try. How hard is 0,6, and 7 on ace? I have them on my xbox
>>587154579>6i hope you like getting oneshooted by bullshit, every run is a no damage run if you're playing Ace, and AA guns deal 50-70% of your health per pellet>7lol, lmao
>>587154698>6meant to say 0, idk abt 6
>>587154579>0bossfights can be challenging because you get 1-tapped by enemy missilesaside from that it's not that hard so long as you dodge AA fire>6easier than 0 but can be difficult at times due to the volume of fire in some missions, CFA-44 + ADMM does trivialize the game>7piss easy
>>587154465Felon is more agile, but not to a point where it's a game changing advantage. Gemma sucking with the FA-36 probably hurts its reputation, whereas Felon has already built up a rep with AH (Markov) and 7 (Pulse Lasers).
>>587154465Game is fugly.
>>587155242yet it still got picked over delphinus for the AC3 rep, curious
>>587155112I thought people would give it a chance with how much of a carry it is for Ace S rank runs
I know some of you get all uppity while talking vtubers streamers, but a Ushio Ebi went overboard by buying a PS2 system and like 3 copies of every PS2 AC games (most of them are in horrible condition and don't even boot up) just to play the trilogyI call based
>>587152967>>587153393Setting up for an anti-corporate united Yuke, Erusea and FCU in Ace9 against Belka, Emmeria and OSEA as the unified enemy for the corpo war.
>>587157427But what if you are the Corpos in AC9 anon?
>>587157510The obvious plot twist is that the remains of the good guy nations just unite with GRL defectors to form Neucom.
>>587156421Playing the holy trinity on the PS2 is rather nice, althought my copy of 5 has been untouched ever since I got the remaster as a pre-order bonus. It's just more convenient and it's a really nice remaster with trophies. One day I'd like to own a physical copy of every AC game, even for stuff like 6 where I don't have an a Xbawks.>>587157510At that point just let me play as a merc and choose my side like the other AC does.
>>587157639Uhhhhhh ackshually we already know how Neucom was founded. A major airline corporation boughteded Erusea's privatized national aerospace company around the time when ACX/AC7 happened (2019/2020). Then later when General Resource cracked down on the Darkness of Enigma project for disturbing human experimentation on a child (Rena), some ex-directors and researchers of DOE joined Neucom to spite their former employer, this happens a few years after the ending of AC8, and some years before AC3.
>>587157679The return of a mega-based USTIO, that swings both ways in the war on player choice would be so cash money for ACE 9
>>587158243>ustioLmao didn't they get annexed by Ratio?
>>587150308>Yuke KGBI thought he was Mamasha's physiotherapist?
>>587158950That's what they all say
>>587158123Right because a bunch of Enso Order style new bullshit won't be just stapled onto the prelude to 3's canon whenever scamco gets around to it for 9.
>>587132785I like placing the big red circle over a bunch of green hexagons.
>>587154579The PS2 games have much shorter and simpler missions but they're much harder on Ace difficulty. Enmies pressure you a lot and you die in one hit
>>587159724Yeah but there's no tuning parts crap so even the shit planes feel amazing to use.
SAMs on avalon are kicking my ass lads
>>587160026Fly as low as you can and take em out with guns rather than missiles, it's quicker like that
I was worried that there were only 2 Attackers but somehow it worked out
>>587131586The online mode plays like a MOBA, like one of those mobile clones that wanted the feel of a full-scale MOBA but with 5 minute matches so they replaced gold and XP with just points that act as a wincon.You've got your 2 big dick creep farmers(attacker and LAAMer) that will score the majority of your points and the match revolves around protecting and enabling them by securing map control.Dogfights follow the same front to back formula as most MOBA teamfights too, you want your "tanks"(agile planes with close range missiles) up front tying up the enemy while your "carry"(LAAMer) actually gets the kills. You can try to ignore this and just rush the LAAMer like an assassin character would in a MOBA but that can lead to the entire enemy team collapsing on you with 3x focus boosted missiles.
>>587160443Sometimes I sure end up having all 3 of the enemy gunning for me and I was genuinely fighting for my life even if I knew I would fail there...In pub matches, no matter how good you are I guess its normal that there's no guarantee you can win consistently I guess...huh?
>>587160512Yep. Just like a MOBA. You can't solo the entire enemy team no matter how good you are. At best you can distract 3 retards into chasing your tail for the entire match and hope that your retards can then kill the enemy attacker while your own gets freefarm.But sometimes you get idiots that find the idea of dropping the bombs on the ground targets to be too difficult and get like 80k score even with 0 deaths and 0 pressure(you should be getting 160k-190k as an untouched attacker).
>>587160627Whenever I run Attacker, I swear some chucklefuck always guns for me so I only end up with like 20-30k score...do I need stealth parts or something? Or is it more feasible if you have bloodthirsty buddies who love murdering other players?
>>587160728Honestly even if you're under constant pressure you should still be able to score at least 70k. You must be doing something wrong if you're only scoring 30.Have you tried placing the big red circle over the small green squares?
>>587160728nta but if you're not running a Su-34, then sub 100k score is to be expected
>>587160898Not true. You can easily fullclear all the maps in a Mirage-2000 with UGB/LASM and get 170k+.
>>587160898>>587160789My best Attacker is a Frogfoot so maybe I shouldnt bother...
I recently got a FA-36 to Lv15, and since then I've had a few matches where I've just dunked on the enemy team and somehow get MVP over our Attacker. Either I sucked so badly in my earlier matches that I'm getting matched against window lickers, or the Game is REALLY bloody good.
>>587161314By chance, are you somebody named 'COPE' with gunpods and SASM
>>587161314GAME has SASM, all SASM planes are team spoilers.
>>587161049Froggy is by far the worse plane in the game outside Chandelier and Alicorn. It's worth having one at 20 for both of those, but otherwise it underperforms everywhere else.
>>587120028
>>587161371Not me. I don't think I'd be good enough to use MGP against players.>>587161446Yeah, I'm definitely getting carried by SASM and the Game's strong raw stats. I think the stealth is really working in my favour too, I just fly towards an enemy player, dump two MSL plus two SASM once I get within 2km, and they don't notice me until it's too late to dodge the salvo. I could never ambush players that easily in a F-15C.
That the fuck does the one star stealth upgrade even do in pvp?
>>587161951speaking of, is there any point in stacking stealth upgrades on non-stealth aircraft?can i make an intruder that's invisible past 6km?
>>587161951'increases stealth level by 2'For reference, the Su-57 has a base level of 4, and the F-35C has 6. Unlike AC7 it doesn't look like there's a bunch of aircraft with a base level of 1.
>>587161832Ok I didn't play against you then. Some Game with it's stealth got the drop on me and sprayed with gunpods not long ago...
>>587162102Which does what? Does it effect lock distance for example? The only thing I notice on stealth aircraft is that they occasionally vanish on my radar, but outside of LAAMs, you're fighting at such a close knife edge distance that those same aircraft just pop right back up where they were almost immediately.
>>587162607Pretty much what you said, makes your disappear from the enemy's radar when they're not looking at you. I've had that happen too, and it's a real pain at Fort Grays where you now have to cycle between 20 other enemy aircraft to refocus on the Felon that's about to get behind you.
>>587162118>Some Game with it's stealth got the drop on me and sprayed with gunpodsbut neither of the fa36s come with gunpods
>>587163193...Ok its just a FA-36 with SASM and I just suck or are too ignorant of my surroundings then
F2 is comfy
>>587157639AC9 is just going to be resolving the war with the power of friendship with all the people you meet along the way.
>>587161659MGP Frogfoot is a miracle worker against the Chandelier. I've seen other players rack up impressive scores with SFFS Frogfoot against the Alicorn, but it handles so sluggishly that I'm struggling to replicate those performances. Since my Frogfoot is already at 20, I think I'll just go back to nuking the Alicorn with UGBL.
>>587163660Namco will pussy out, AC9 will just be a remake of Air Combat and AC2 put together.
>>587163703SFFS can tap the Chandelier's barrel without going inside it. Any plane with SFFS can do this, it's either a bug or the spread of the bomblets is wide enough to get a couple into the barrel from the side openings.
>>587163842Yeah they probably will. They keep coming up with neat concepts but fuck up the execution constantly.
>>587162102What's the GAME stealth level?
Anyone have the comic of Cope yelling Larp at Topkrek?
>>587164273
>>587159504I feel if we pitched the most insane scenario possible in this thread there is a good chance a chunk of elements of it would be included as the plot.
>>587165106I mean, is Ace Combat all that crazy? The only exceptions are 3 and 7, the former is an experimental '90s sci-fi story (made by the same people that did Drakengard, so you know they're crazy), and the latter is 5 different cancelled scripts duct taped into one. Otherwise the story is incredibly simplistic.
>>587165106My craziest theory is that Pixy and Wizard founded Enso Order and Pixy is its secret uber CEO with all of the keys to the kingdom.
>>587165106>Crazy theoriesCipher is actually the NPC named King Arthur who heads the merc bar in multiplayer.
>Newbie Nugget vs Ace pilot.Imagine if the Arsenal bird missions had weather conditions.
>>587154880>piss easyExcept for "Facless Soldier" mission, fuck that piece of shit. Fun gimmick, ass to S-rank.
>>587149727>Not sure why she is still using Yuke tagsEveryone insists the tags are hers but they're probably her mother's that she wears as a keepsake because I doubt Tasha was in the Yuke airforce before the game
>Can only have twenty plane slots for multiplayerScamco strikes again I see
>>587150308I'm amazed how this theory hasn't taken off, between her dad being EVERYWHERE something important is going on, him just being able to make a call and get highly classified information on Sotoan weaknesses as well as being married to to the woman who crippled Tewy in the Soat/Yuke war, that dude fucking GLOWS
>>587170929>20how the fuck do you start with that much when we could only have 5?
>>587171059The reason we never see Fern the dog again is because he ferried a secret message to his spook contacts in its collar when all the civilians got to leave for the retaken city.
Just killed an EA-36 in a EA-6, yeesh
>>587171186I want one slot for every plane, simple as. The fact that you have to spend Zoll buying more, up to twenty, is already scum tier.
https://x.com/Hellsverg/status/2119454312946659620?a=OnHz307yjdRk9Pka-KU&s=19I don't know what's real anymore
>>587171292Barricader is something of a memeplane, as is the Nightmare.
I have gotten chandelier 6 times in a row
>>587171505Enough for a house I'd reckon. But chandeliers are a bit outdated.
>>587170872Its because of the game files saying they are hers even if none of the ages match up. Its probably something they intended to do something with in development but forgot about and just left it in cause fuck redoing shit.>>587171405What a bunch of nomads!
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Any tips or advices for using guns?Having only discovered "Track Target" after beating the campaign of AC7 I'm rather keen to know about features that a new player would normally overlook, I have yet to play 8 but seeing anons talk about shooting down Ace Pilot Shadow 22 with guns before Flare patch gives me the impression that I should make more use of them.Normally I do find it a bit difficult to use, though the part that buffs your reticle makes it somewhat easier.
>>587172361The gunsight is notoriously bad in AC7. I suggest eyeballing it and using the tracers to adjust your aim.
>>587171505Me too but that's the one I'm best at so I like getting MVP every time
>>587172361>Any tips or advices for using guns?Aim by yawing, not pitching.Unless you're lined up right behind target, shoot where they're going, not where they're at.To land your shots while making hard turns, you have to aim far ahead of what you're trying to hit, as your bullets travel in a wide arc (just for reference, watch how your reticles moves in turns, especially high-G's).And finally, as you use get to used to shooting: aim with your eyes, not your reticle. Get a good feel of where your plane is shooting by watching the nose, forget the reticle.If you get this all this pat down, you'll pretty much use your guns more than missiles, they're a lot more reliable. Matter of fact guns are so strong there's a medal for clearing the game with just guns, and it's actually much easier than you might think.
>>587163406F2 has the best default skin. I always add the Jap roundels to mine.
>>587173037>No Super KaiJaps know they have a captive audience and even have the JSDF advertising their game, why must PA be this way?
>>587173346Licensing lol. Can't wait for Electrosphere where they can just ripoff any plane with a little scifi twist.
>>587173346Probably because they know that trash like the F-15J or the F-2A are barely relevant or liked as is and don't want to fill up the roster with even more shit planes
>>587120634The Mclaren Marlboro Draken is already a real thing.
>>587173592Planes don't matter, it's their loadout that matters. You think nuggets would be stroking out the MIG-21 shitbox if it didn't have SASM and QAAM? Fuck no. If Super Kai had a good loadout then who the fuck cares about its IRL status. This is why the Raptor and SU-57 are dogdicked, neither has their good shit. The 57 should have anti-radiation missiles and AtG BVR. But it can't, because no one would pick anything else.
>doing triple-9/11 to stop LB1
Lmao so its not just flares that are client side. AI planes wholly are client side. What the fuck, bamco?
>>587174689Just Jap netcode things.
>>587174689Muliplayer slapped together with glue by smelly Indian apes. Please understand gaijin.
>>587174687>"Three strikes?"
>>587136747>>587144936>>587150223Thanks! I made a doodle for that Queen of /v/ thing but I also made a variant more appropriate for my own personal preference.
>want to try more planes>most feel like shit at levels 1 through 5>expensive as fuck to level and upgrade each oneThis shit sucks.
sasm aoe fishbed
>>587175226>3.... another number
multiplayer is too slow and not enough targets or time compared to campaign.PS: god so many newbies dont know how to attack the chandelier
>>587175208>uh actually it wasn't the japs it was indians!!!Fuck of weeb the online is genuie homemade japanese dogshit. They're just as capable of producing it as indians.
>>587174687Triple 9/11 would be 12 buildings. WTC1/2/3/7 were all destroyed.Even if we only count 1&2 that's still 6 buildings, not 3. You did one and a half 9/11s.
>>587178872>slow as fuck and almost nothing flares or jinks>people in Morgans still rocking triple digit end scores It's incredible.
does ac8 support hotas/flightstick?how does high G/psm work when you can't press brakes and throttle at the same time?
you ever think how weird modern air-to-air combat would be if it was all choppers
Whiskey Corridor, more like I'm going to need a Corridor of Whiskey to get through this level
>>587180354>modern air-to-air combat>just slinging missles from bvrIt'd be exactly the same.
>>587180956Pickle, pickle!
Now that base 8 has its own Sotoan air fryer, and we live in a post Torres world, what will the DLC missions be about? 8 already has the most super weapons as well. Do you think they'll do something about Stonehenge since it briefly appeared in the campaigned?
>>587182250Stonehenge has been milked enough already
>>587182250Escorting flights of Long Caster deliveries.
>>587182250There are several missions queen flight embarks upon that we never see. Some of them are quite consequential too.
>>587182703Don't a few of them have Tasha and Coster hanging around when Rex and Baxter are away to Rio Baja if I recall?
>Leclerc
>>587183145There are also 3d models for every queen flight member in the game file
>AC8 drops>Adds new character that is basically pic relatedHow would anons feel?
>>587183614Usergoyslop's OCs? Horrible.
>>587183614DLC drops*
>>587182703>We get the Queen squad version of mission 11 where we have to defend the old lady with nothing but MG
>>587183379There's so much rendered and modeled that goes unused.>>587183690I would be hoping we get someone a fraction of the level of Torres but wouldn't be getting my hopes up.
>VinokurovBut who the FUCK was phone?
>>587181560but its so fucken weird even how helicopters jink
>>587183891>I would be hoping we get someone a fraction of the level of TorresBoth Land Battleship Captains had to have been possessed by the ghost of Torress absolute mad lads
>>587184753Think that Torres is some sort of death god of the sea in the Strangereal universe that sailors pray to?
>>587183614cringe
>ADA-01 -ADL->UGBL>MGP>LSWMmake it happen PA
This nigger has "Belkan" all over his face.Enso Order were just Belkans (again) weren't they? God I am so fucking TIRED of these NIGGAS!!!!! CAN PA PLEASE LET BELKANS GO ALREADY?!?!
>>587185076Wings look bad and why does it have a tail
Post every Chimera you have please, I need to rebuild my collection after a very unfortunate hard drive failure.
>>587185136Wait a second he doesn't even have rank insignia I think? He totally is a spy!
>>587184665helis can abuse terrain for way longer than a plane
>>587185219He even looks damn near identical to Schroeder. No matter how you get to it, it's just Belkans all the way down. Every single time. Fucking Saturday morning cartoon villains
>>587185440AC5 said they want revenge for the desolation of their country but AC7 made it seem more like they have a genetic disease that makes them start wars
>>587182250Helicopter missions on the Sotoan-Yuktobanian frontline
>>587185372>duck & shoot but airbornewould be kinda funny tBh
>>587185528Total Belkan Death. Now and forever.Only good Belkan is a dead Belkan.
>>587185707they are literally balistically lobbing unguided rockets
Considering how Oseans treat everyone like shit did Belka actually do anything wrong?
>>587133930he is going to the promised land
>>587185973Osea is a nation that loves peace. They even donate lots of money to build infrastructure in other countries.
>>587185136'Carter' doesn't sound belkan at all
>>587185973You want the long version or the short version?
>>587186180Neither does "Cohen".I assume.But changing/hiding their name/nationality is always an option for Belks, look at Tabloid.
>>587185528oy vey
>>587186083Oseans love enslaving everyone with borders.
>>587187028>yyeeessss... remove all borders, goooyyyy... statehood is slaveryyyyy...
>>587183891imo captain of land battleship №2 was a bit close to Torres the moment he started praying to Tonitrus Fingers(us).>>587186652Simon was supposed to be Russian in original scenario of ac3.
I got f-15c with sasmI'm going to chip your paint so badly
So a fully leveled Su-34 with fully kitted meta body part upgrades essentially becomes as nimble as a Su-35 but with it's own super special snowflake unique weapon making it the king of ground attack and a more than capable dogfighter.
>lowered the difficulty from elite to hard at one point in the campaign>went back to elite>realize full elite clear is needed to unlock ace>don't remember which mission I lowered the difficulty in i want to fucking UGBL myself
>>587188501You would be able to tell in free mission. I don't think it matters since it may be a campaign conditional.
>>587183848>We're forced to play in their canon planes, the F/A-18E for added tension, no Belkan super plane wizardry the first playthrough
I'm liking the new general plan daily rates as well as the Emergency rates. Those were really a big bottleneck for me getting everything interesting up to Level 20.I wish they would let you have a setup slot per each plane, limiting that to 20 seems a bit short sighted.
>>587185156I have a couple pics saved cause I wanted to make it in Flyout I never did
Halfway through my Attacker run (5th run overall)Love the F-15E but holy shit carrier missions suck balls with the A-6Any chances of getting a good carrier-based attacker? Really don't get why the AV-8B Harrier wasn't put in
>>587188253Really, should I just slap on max blast area and the a2a damage increase?
>>587189331They know the people want it so they'll probably add one in a future battle pass but then you'll get clowned on for not finishing your attacker run without it. What difficulty are you on?
Nothing feels better than dropping some metaslave while flying in cockpit view.
>>587189270Separated at birth?
>>587189270Please do, shifting through the archives to find chimera stuff is quite annoying.
>Copy~~~~what was his fucking problem
>>587190683I'd be happy too if I got to fly a super valkyrie
>>587189874Elite difficulty I've done my Ace run
>>587190451Ifrit is almost a Stealth Chimera. They're actually nearly identical in length and wingspan. Ifrit's not a Cranked-Arrow Doube-Delta though.I've considered making a Chimera mod for Nuclear Option.
>>587186180He could be "North Osean"
>>587185156This is probably my favourite interpretation
>>587191949
>>587191534Shit dude, go for it, we got guys making MiG-21s and Tu-22Ms, Chimera wouldn't be out of place at all. Only real challenge I foresee is making it distinct from the Ternion in role and capability.
this lighthouse mission is so bad lmaoonevermind the crab part it's justwew lad drones that literally ignore physics? this is why AC7 was the worst ace combat by a country mile, whenever drones are involved the game just takes a nosedive in quality
>every planes ignoring physics is fine but it's bad when a drone does it
>>587193085Yes.
>>587192437Yeah, lot of overlap with the Ternion to be fair. In my personal lore the Chimera has a dispersed runway capability, due to it being developed by and for mercenaries who wouldn't always have access to a proper runway, plus some shared lineage with early Flankers. The huge wing, lots of thrust paired with TVC lends itself to short take-off and landing rolls. When I did some prototyping in KSP w/FAR it practically leapt off the runway, even when heavily loaded. So that might be enough to differentiate it.
>>587193085The romance of being a fighter pilot is about the mano y mano violence. Even if it's a video game I can at least pretend I'm pitting myself against a human being. Even with the COFFIN system. But if everyone keeps saying it's unmanned and it keeps doing things that I can't then not only have I lost the romance but now I need to pay even more attention to such an unromantic encounter than otherwise.
>>587191534I've been learning blender for a couple of weeks in hopes of one day adding the Chimera to Ace Combat 8.
AC9 will never be released
>Meanwhile in downtown Theve
After finishing my ace playthrough, 8 is very easy. I wonder if they were scared of making new players upset. I'm still mad there's no true tunnel run, too.
>>587194505every ace combat is easy man
>>587194505I like that a lot of missions are a bit more objective focused(usually by giving you some set of friendlies to defend) so even if they're very hard to fail outright you have the secondary goal of keeping as many friendlies alive/undamaged as possible, which can be decently difficult.
>>587194631Operative word there was "very", anon. I think it's even easier than 7. I was skipping dialogue because I was killing shit so fast. The land battleship fight at the space elevator got nuked so fast I didn't hear any of them boiling because SFFS does such a ridiculous amount of damage even without parts
>>587194863Yea, but only on ace. I didn't have any issue with that in my first playthrough on elite, and it doesn't actually matter in the long run keeping friendlies alive gameplay wise
>Ground pounding>Somehow down a SU-57 and Growler with unbuffed standards between bombing runsAmerican hours are embarrassing
>>587189331>Love the F-15E but holy shit carrier missions suck balls with the A-6LASM the airships and gunboats, gun the Podarge weakpoints for massive damage, UGB the enemy fleet. But yeah, the lack of carrier options sucks.
>>587191534Buddy, have I got a whole folder for you.
>>587195596Pilot made this cockpit with the express purpose of the mental image of the pilot accidentally kneeing the "jettison stores" button.
>>587195596>>587195780These two are the most accurate and updated depictions of the Chimera and its components, the ones that I used to make a 3D model when I still had some free time, and which I'm tempted to just put up on sketchfab or something. Now we can get to some artistic depictions.
>>587185156
>>587196124This thing is awesome, love shitting out 4 M12s on a destroyed runway at once. Honestly wish it was in the vanilla game, the current cargo helicopters are kinda limited.
>>587196012This is the original attempt by Thunderceptor to make a hardpoint layout for the Chimera. I found out that there are some spacing issues with this config if you want to mount the full 18 hardpoints we statted it to have, though.
>>587195496How many other carrier-based attacker options are there? F-14B I guess even though that being an attacker is even more contrived than the F-15E being one. Maybe Fregata if they ever remember X happened, but I can't remember if that was carrier capable. Anything else I can think of was a Cold War subsonic same as the A-6. A-5 Vigilante, perhaps?
>>587196285Finally, Dornie made a JG 71-inspired livery for it, as an alternative for >>587196012.
>>587196124BUILT for BSL (Big Scimitar Lockons)
>>587196285The tunnel was a deviation I made in my KSP design as per >>587193410Went for 2 centerline hardpoints nose-to-tail, flanker style (I believe this is also how it's arranged in the Hush-kit hardpoint layout). I figured if you needed to carry two munitions side by side in the tunnel you could use a combo rail like modern Flankers do, and centrally aligning the hardpoint allows it to carry high-diameter munitions on those positions like HARM.
>>587196410Project Aces could go retro and put the A-4 back in for the memes, not that it would be much help for the medals. Would be funny to kill Tewy with a flight of Skyhawks though, like killing the Falken with it in 2. Adlers would be a nice late-game carrier option for Attackers, since iirc Fighters are eventually getting the XFA-27 as their late-game option.
>>587196012I always felt like Air Defense Force was more fitting.
>>587196410>How many other carrier-based attacker options are there?If scraping then:A4 SkyhawkA7 CorsairBlackburn BuccaneerSuper ÉtendardThere was a carrier version of the Jaguar made that worked its just nobody decided to order it.There's also a few projects that were cancelled due to the Cold War ending including a supersonic replacement for the Harrier.
>>587196410>How many other carrier-based attacker options are there?Since we've already got never built but real stuff in the games...
>>587197690They should've added a carrier capable F-4 attacker. I don't despise the A-6 but man I really don't like it
>>587197690There's also a carrier based Frogfoot variant. But we already have the frogfoot so that's probably not getting added.
>>587196410How about the Yak-38?That would be unique
>>587198214They could have just made the F/A-18F an attacker. Okay it's not technically correct but it would give at least one option for mid-to-late game. It's loadout reflects a mostly air-to-ground focus too, whereas the E is mostly air-to-air.
>>587198570>Playable VTOLnever ever.
>>587197963The fact they have never thought to add pic related when it was a legit real life coffin concept aircraft is a crime.>>587198214Or at least added the F-4 as a carrier multirole. What the fuck were they thinking adding the E over the naval version for this game?
>>587198726Ok well they could just make it a normal takeoff But it would be a good attacker, more modern than the A-4 or A-7
>>587198736>papershitYeah, it's not getting added.>>587198828They could add a playable Harrier with "normal takeoff" too. But they're not going to because they're super autistic about keeping VTOLs VTOL-y and they don't know how to properly add VTOL as a mechanic.
>>587198616Yea would've been fine with that too. We don't need two multirole f-18s.
>>587198570Even if the VTOL curse were to be lifted, the Yak-38 was absolute abysmal dogshit in real life. Harrier would make infinitely more sense. Yak-141 though, I think you could swing that as either multirole or attacker.
>>587198936>Not using papershitThey added the FB-22 though to games anon?
>>587199170And that was a mistake that I hope they won't repeat.Hell if you look at the AC8 roster not only is it free from papershit but they purged all the protoshit aside from the Berkut.
>>587199305This isn't War Thunder retard
>>587198736>Or at least added the F-4 as a carrier multirole. What the fuck were they thinking adding the E over the naval version for this game?This, give me my F-4S you bastards
>>587199305Hey you dumb faggot Strangereal isn't real life it's fine to have stuff that doesn't make sense in reality because AC is real life but Strange
Bring back the MiG 1.44
F-5, F-5, F-5
>>587199595>>587199368I agree that they should add non real life aircraft. But instead of scraping the bottom of the barrel with protoshit and papershit they should make their own original fictional designs.
>>587195596>>587195780>>587196012>>587196285>>587196476I love this creature so god damned much.
>>587199305I hope they add more paper shit and protoshit until actual planes are the minority in the roster.
>>587199728>Its engines are SFP portsNo thanks.
I'd draw a line between pure papershit like the FB-22 and the F-15S/MTD, X-29 or Su-47 where an actual flying aircraft was produced desu
>>587199727It grew on me. I couldn't stand it at first
>>587199907Well, yes, that's the line between papershit and protoshit(at least 1 airframe made that actually flew).
Our economy relies on mercs like us.
>>587199907I draw a line between what I think looks good and what doesn't, I think the FB-22 looks good despite 0 being built and I also think all chink planes look like shit despite the subhumans building thousands of them. Thankfully it seems that PA agrees with me and that's why the FB-22 has appeared in a bunch of AC games and will come to 8 as DLC while 0 chink planes have been added to Ace Combat and it will stay that way forever and ever.
>>587200362Hear hear
The game needs more flankers, simple as that.
>>587199724I agree with this sentiment although if you got essentially most of the homework done for you already why not just go a step further and just add your own spin on it? Some papershit really does feel like it was made in Belka.
>>587199907>>587200480Apologies, poor reading comprehension struck again
>>587200517>Two Multirole Flankers>Obligatory Su-34 as Attacker Flanker>No Fighter Flanker?They're really banking on people shelling out for the Yellow and Mihaly Flankers aren't they?
the problem with fictional designs is that they all wind up being semi superplanes, nobody wants to design a fictional shitbox like the a-4
Why is it still not in the game, PA?
>>587200720Too OP.
>>587200362This
>>587200720big fan of this lil guy personally
>>587200706There is one plane that is the most powerful ground attack aircraft ever made yet also a shitbox. Please contact F.W.D. for inquiries.
The real question is why the fuck wasn't the MiG-29K in the game. They literally exist in strangereal, it's canon, listed as aircraft the Alicorn can carry. It's not like they have aversion to adding STOBAR aircraft that are inexplicably CATOBAR.What does kono have against Fulcrums? The MiG-35D didn't come back either
>>587201058
>>587201150They scanned the regular Fulcrum back for AC7 and can't get proper scans for the K because the jeets covered them in shit.
>>587197690F-111B maybe? They built a whole 7 of them.
>>587201470i'd love to fly this all-time shitbox contender desu
imagine playing multiplayer and seeing someone come in with an attacker LAAMboat f-111b
>>587201470Would be a hell of a monkey's paw for the F-111 beggers kek. Still would like to see B and an F.
Why does ACO's King Arthur look like Danny Trejo?
>>587195596I still wish the Chimera was a two seater. There is one in the concept art for PW but I personally consider it Monarch's canon plane for for the back half of the game, like he used the bonus from the Bering Strait furball to buy it. But I just pretend it has two seats since I have the mod for WSOs always being present installed, kinda like I pretend Driver's plane is a Mudhen.
What is the correct answer when someone SASM's me, assuming I even know it's a SASM? Currently my answer is I just die.
>>587201872Not like there isn't space for a tandem seat. Given most people envision it as an F-15EX contender it would likely come in handy for splitting tasks.
Pretty good today lots of sorties in the party search got my blueprints in under an hour
>>587202596The model of a two seater in the files does look pretty nice and it barely even adjusts the cockpit position to do it.
>>587201878If you go head on with a gripen or eagle you're dead from a direct hit or getting splash damage, avoid that.
>>587201878Just eat the hit, I need those kills
>>587201878High-G at 1400 to 1800 kph, do not ever slow down.
>>587201872Is the mod that adds a second seat for all the planes even functional anymore? I remember most mods being made completely disfunctional once the game updated with the dlc.
>>587200362But that's not the FB-22?
>Playing War Thunder>BGM: Song of Wings -AS ONE->Dogfighting 1v4>Manage to kill 2>I'm out of position about to die>"SO WE WILL RISE ABOVE">Out of nowhere two wingmen appear and clear the other two enemies>Everyone pops out tricolor acrobatic smoke while flying into the sunset as the song endsk...kino....
What do people take for LAAM, double guidance?
>>587203392https://www.nexusmods.com/projectwingman/mods/566This one does. It doesn't add the actual second seat to the model but it does give you WSO dialogue with every plane. It seems like the way it works is that the dialogue triggers when the second pilot is modeled, so this leads to silly shit like Prez just sitting in the fuselage of the Harrier for example.
>>587204296Her head pops out the fuselage. There used to be a mod for actual 2 seater cockpits but it never got updated to the anniversary edition.
>>587203651Ok TheSlyfwor, cool story TheSlyfwor, now back to /wtg/ with you.
>>587204257Just guidance II and speed II is good enough.
>>587204892I don't care about the niclname, i avoid posting it just to not shit up the threads.I could never post something like that on /wtg/, they don't like plane games there
>>587203651I don't have tricolor smoke. Just snowflake smoke (spy hunter smokescreen) here comes the snow
>>587204706Yeah I would rather have that so it's a shame it never got updated.
>>587205418Hey the snowflake smoke is pretty damn cool tho
>got myself a 2nd degree burn on my forearm and hand and now holding the controller is a little awkwardI guess I'm not playing ace ocmbat tonight
>>587190380based and falconpilledframeless canopylets in shambles
>>587205838Where we're going we don't need canopies
>>587203651For a game that's set in the sky, the skybox is really ugly wtf
>>587205570Haha yeah, a similar thing happened to me a couple of days ago and now I can't feel anything in my left hand
>>587205520I feel like a jerk using it in ww2 era ground battles when somebody is on my tail and trying to shoot me.
>Look up my aircraft data, specifically SPW kills>realize I have 0 kills with GPBs>Only two planes carry the GPB this iteration >both are carrier-based American aircraft PA generally did a great job on buffing A2G weapons this time around but how those weapons are allocated and to which aircraft is just strange to me.
>>587206323Well most of the hand is alright but I did do a number on my index finger and the bandages are restricting movement of my whole hand a littleNot looking forward to the next few days
>>587205570I got gout/inflammation of the joints in my left index finger the morning of my birthday on the 5th and it's still inflamed after 4 days. I should probably see a doctor
>>587204296Yea I was talking about this >>587204706. I still have an updated version of PW on my laptop where all my mods work. Maybe I need to learn to vibe code so I can fix all the broken mods.
This is major morale boost!
>>587206561Russia gets the only GPBL though
>>587206625It sucks so much man, I'm over here playing porn games and old RTS games to entertain myself because if I even feel cold air it tingles up to my shoulder.
>>587208450Disregard that I suck cocks, and have dyslexia apparentlyGPB sucks however
>>587208597It could always be worse buddy, we'll be alright
>>587208627GPB is fine, there are rarely clusters so big that GPBL could kill them but GPB can't.
>>587208747Now you have dyslexia too
>>587208747UGBLs with double bomb blast parts and the UGB power spec ability have a ridiculously large radius that can legitimately wipe out groups that the regular UGB can't. Even spread out targets that you wouldn't even consider to be "groups" for the regular UGB.
>>587208713Best is when you hear them screaming about boiling alive and Tasha mocks them for it. She truly learned well from Baxter.
>>587208450Yeah my point was in previous iterations GPBs were treated like HCAAs; just slap them on a fighter if no other ground based weapon made sense
It feels like only 1% of players respect the power of guns
>>587209109I regurlarly get the medal for most machine gun rounds fired in PvEvP matches and I use them sparingly. Says a lot about the average AC player these days
Bit over half a decade since I've seen it mentioned so I doubt I'll get an answer but does anyone know what happened to Thunderceptor and more importantly that TTRPG thing he had going?
>>587209285Same, and I'm the only person I ever see bringing MGPs to anything
Almost golden ticket locked, only got the A6 to go
>>587210015I see plenty of Su-25s with MGPs in 2 of the 3 E-sortie bosses now that it seems to be the new high score meta, also some anon posted its actually great in TDM of all places. Dumbfire weapons are crazy strong in this game in general. I'd usually ask for a nerf, but considering how shit those weapons have been historically in this franchise, I say let them shine for a minute.
Imagine if you could spend golden tickets to change the special weapons or abilities on your plane.
>>587211048This is part of why I will never play the online again. I have negative interest in playing against autists who have been grinding the game since the game launched.
>>587211484It's not like you have to be MVP or even win the match to get rewarded. If you enjoy blowing stuff up it's fun. And you get some good planes pretty early too.
>everyone in the lobby ignoring me and the other enemy ground pounder so they can kill each other for the event missionKek we both ended up racking 180k points for our teams
>>587211484sonydad tier response
>>587201878Do not joust a SASM user, and avoid getting close to them. Treat SASM AoE like EML hitbox in 7. Otherwise standard rules of keeping up your airspeed and always being in a turn of some sort.
>>587211484Comparison is the the thief of joy.My secret is just play what you want and avoid competing with the autistic tryhards by using their same tactics. Nothing changes that way.
>>587211596>If you enjoy blowing stuff up it's fun.It's categorically worse than singleplayer if you enjoy blowing stuff up. There are way less targets and the matches last much less time, and you're pretty much locked to metaslave planes if you actually want to get to blow shit up.
>>587211145The quad SU-25 matches were kind of a meme, but they're surprisingly decent in slow turnfights. Really easy to counter if you fly fast and just take pot shots though as they can't keep up.Having 8 flares on each player is kinda nice, it really allows you to just pop them on demand if you're bunched up.People underestimate how tight subsonic planes can turn due to their low stall speed
>>587211637Far too easy to get tilted at a MiG-31 and forget about the A-10 dicking about in the corner
>>587211484Even if you want to go full metafag at best you need like 3 planes. Having a full hangar of lvl 20 garbage is in no way an advantage.
>>587212973>Having a full hangar of lvl 20 garbageThat's my plan right now. I'm not interested in the slightest of gen 5 planes nor the Migger.
>>587208928Max radius UGBL can cover the entire Alicorn. It legitimately has a larger blast radius than the MPBM.
>>587213229Yep. But you have to lead your aim slightly to actually hit all targets on it, since it's not stationary. Also helps a lot in maps like Farbanti and Scofield's Plateau where you have target groups that are kinda spread out and would usually require multiple bombs but can be hit with a single UGBL.
Why does the F-2 fly like such a whale
>>587213896Attacker, pls understandu.
>>587213896Because it is a whale?
I'm thinking I need a new way to hold down the track target button, it's hard enough missling and gunning at the same time,does getting a foot pedal or controller with a back button sound better?
that named ace mig-31 in the drinwich mission is pulling endgame bossfight moves
>>587214258Use your index finger you dumb fuck.
>>587212973Fullback, Felon/Game, and a LAAMboat?
>>587185076God I wish the Adler would get some more recognition by PA outside of ACI
>>587209109Most people who play Ace Combat are really bad. They aren't capable of any tactic other than pressing the missile button repeatedly. Hence why Shadow 22 got nerfed, people were timing out the fight because they spent FIFTEEN MINUTES doing nothing but spamming missiles over and over and not comprehending why he wasn't dying.Zero has achievements for guns so we can be sure that a little over three quarters of players have less than five gun kills. Zero guns are admittedly not very good, but they can't even get five? Five isn't a big number.
>>587215425for something named after a bird it looks a lot like a moth
>>587215425Adler was bad in ACI and only bad people used it which has permanently biased me against the plane. So I think it sucks and I hope it doesn't come back.You suck Adler. I'm going to keep thinking you suck even if you come back with good specials and are really good because I refuse to change my opinions.
>>587215714you sound like a faggot
>>587213896>build obese F-16 while keeping the same light fighter engine>give it an ugly camo for good measure so it feels bad about itself and performs suboptimally>surprised when it flies like shit
More Emergency Soties when? I want to fight the Aigaion and Megalith already.
They really need to bring back the Online base attack/defence mode from ACAH in some form.
>>587216183>Megaliththat's just chandelier but worse
>>587215357Yep. Basically just Fullback, Typhoon/Mig-31, and then either Game or Felon for the short-range bullfighter role. Ea-36 used to be mandatory but it's not worth running post-nerf.
>>587214258I use the back buttons on my steam controller
>>587215994There were a surprising amount of people who somehow thought that it being 850 base cost would make up for it being really low level since it was super expensive so they couldn't afford to level it. They just flew around sucking occasionally shooting one of their very few MPBMs for very little gain. It was so bad. Like what are you doing, just get an FB or a Fullback or the special A-10 that went fast and you'll do so much better. Fucking Adlers fuuuuuuck.
>>587215714Alder was the first superplane design I ever became aware of in Ace Combat as I started with fucking Assault Horizons in dire anticipation of 7.In the grand scope of original designs it's an abused puppy but I really wish it wasn't cause every other ADF type design just... does not do the same thing for me. The X-40, however, hits a similar niche for me BUT, of course, it has to be mostly dogshit in every way that actually matters. There is no rest is there?
>>587216607Oh or the Iran Tomcat, Iran Tomcat was good. I don't know why there was an Iran F-14B given their ones are all As but it was still good.
They need to add a tunnel run as a mid mission update in online, a shitter filter if you will.
>>587217078more points for more faster
>>587217078This would be honestly really funny on the space elevator map
>>587214456All the named aircraft that aren't in shitplanes that handle like boats have cracked AI, the Mirage in the first mission will bait you into doing retard circles in the clouds if you aren't careful. Then again I did the SU-47 in Mission 13 in a Prowler so they aren't all invincible.
>>587217382Can you imagine 8 fucking aircraft all doing it at once?
Do you guys roll out of the barrel to get down to the chandelier backup cooling tunnel
>>587217570How else would you do it?
>>587217570I splash every time, then router at the end of the barrel for the second opening. I do fly through the end every time, though.
>>587217570Yeah but some dudes are always camping around the tunnel and they end up shooting out both before I can do any real damage to it
>visit /aceg/ again for the first time in years>no namefags centering the whole thread on themselvesGood fucking riddance
>>587218984Welcome home, buddy.How did you like 8?
>>587219081Great game, I even dare to rank it above Zero.
>>587215496NTA, but it's really funny how I didn't find Toprak that hard because he moves exactly like a PSM player from AC7 MP. Got him first try on Elite, first playthrough.
>>587219286It is vastly superior to Zero because Zero is really mediocre in most aspects.
>>587216183>>587216294Megalith could have the fake Yellows as the first part of the mission.>give them a slightly better AI than online's aces>throw the canon 15 of them at the players>if someone tries to make a run for Megalith, they pursueYou'd need to add some more stuff to make it a challenge, but it'd be a start.
>>587217570I either yaw out or let myself crash to maximize gun damage. Not like I lose points for dying online.
If you entered the barrel from the front instead of the side, you didn't beat the Chandelier.
>>587221012I enter from the front because I also killed myself to get to the other side of the map faster
>>587221012truke
>>587221012Literally the only way I could contribute after busting the basement generator with Frogfoot, otherwise other gloryhound will take my score away, either that or kys and then respawn ig, stupid ass flying brick
So which is the more reliable PvP plane? FA-36 or SU-57? Should I just raise both since this is a drop event and gold mats aren't exactly hard to get?
>>587221778FA-36. Fully upgraded SASMs are vile. Felon maneuvers better but they're both so ridiculously agile anyway that it doesn't really matter.
>>587211653>not wanting to get shit on by people flying objectively superior in every way planes is baseddad tierYou're retarded as fuck.
>>587221951I'm buying the Gay plane then
>>587221778FA-36 for PvP deathmatch, its pretty much a guaranteed MVP there. Su-57 for warfare or TDM since its the only plane capable of shutting down the FA.
>>587222163why not FA-36 for warfare? can't you just surprise jumpscare enemy attackers with your point blank SASM for free kill? Those guys tend to be distracted with ground pounding
>>587222065whining that people who put in more time and practice into an online game mode are shitting on you is sonydadtierthis is the reality in literally all online games ever made
>>587219408Same, shootout lobbies trained me well
>>587222407>practicebro he's not talking about skills he's talking about grinddo you not understand the difference between "i am good at this game so i win" and "i have done enough grinding to have a high level plane so i win"?
>>587222407>this is the reality in literally all online games ever madeOnly the dead ones. You can queue league today for the first time and you'll be matched against glue sniffers, because there is enough of a playerbase for SBMM. ACO is already dead, so the only people that remain are the ones who are obsessed with it.
>>587222632It's not the plane, it's the pilot.
>>587222347It can work but heavily relies if the attacker is good or not, the FA-36 would still be the better plane for hunting attackers though since if an attacker is aware enough to not get surprised by a SASM plane it will still be harder to kill it with QAAMs
>>587221012>He waits for the sides to openA rank type shit
>>587222407Having an objectively statistically superior plane by virtue of having played the game longer is shit and you are a rat fuck nigger for trying to equate that to skill.
>>587222761Well I just got mogged by a Game and my fellow Game also mogged the other team, meanwhile my Felon and the other team QAAMboat is just doing okay. I'm starting to think that thing is more reliable than us QAAMboats.
>>587222758Patently false in Online, Ace Combat is a niche series, so a majority of the players are franchise vets and should all be around the same level of competence, even if some are better at things like using guns or pulling off PSMs. And levelling up makes such a drastic difference in ACO that it could only be the plane, not the pilot.
>>587223868If you played a match instead of writing that post you could have leveled up your plane
>>587222758Try telling this to a player in an F-14 who's only played a few hours of online after going up against a sperg in a maxed out Felon.
Reminder that the previous thread had a bragging Migger and the video they posted to show off showed them eating two regular missles from a multirole.People who are bad simply don't have the capacity to comprehend that they're bad.
>>587223498thats how progression works in every online game...>>587223868>Ace Combat is a niche series, so a majority of the players are franchise vets and should all be around the same level of competencethere are retards in this very general who were legitimately struggling with long day
Got my "dont have to play online anymore" badge.
>>587223993Exactly. Notice you didn't tell me to "git gud", you just told me to grind more, you proved my point.>>587224126There will be nuggets abound, naturally, but you know what they say about minorities, they're often vocal.
>>587224358That's probably gonna be me tomorrow.
>>587224358I don't want to touch the next season until they do another boosted sortie rate event like this one
>>587223609The thing with the Game is that you really do not want to let it get distance from you and roam free through the map for it to be able to bait head ons or pick on slower planes, if you are on a Su-57 you have to stick on its tail like glue through the entire game to prevent it from doing anything
>>587224645It's going to take what will need to be an essentially ground up rework to get me to ever play the online mode again.
It's fine guys AC9 will finally have good multiplayer.
HVAA is tricky huh I don't think it's worth it. If you don't have the perfect head on or rear aspect that shot is going nowhere fast.
>>587225204An arcade flight game inherently cannot have good PvP.
>>587225207>1488... another number
>>587225398Who said anything about PvP? Good multiplayer can exist in the form of co-op horde shooter.
>>587225398This. https://x.com/Natori98/status/2056389746830737527Ace Combat pvp is shit.
When I was playing Dark Souls for the first time 15 years ago I prediction parried a guy who aura walked down a hallway at me on the first swing.That's how it feels when I get an unlocked SASM straight into a plane at point blank range.
>>587225875I'm gonna chimp if the next season isn't the one with Flankers
>>587224358Sorry, you still need to do 500 sorties in your planefu.
>>587225375HVAA would be fine if it was on better planes. But they're all either low tier or the fucking Su-35.Maybe Su-33 could get some good use out of it. Su-33's alright.
>>587221778>>587221951>>587222163Even in a (admittedly max level) F-15C, I've never felt threatened by a Felon in 1v1. Sure they can PSM, but that just invites my SASMs or an ally's LAAMs. Felons and their QAAMs are only an issue if you're being dogpiled by multiple players, but that's more to do with the actual dogpiling and focus targeting buffs than the Felon itself.
You know, I never got why high tier planes got MORE parts slots than low tier planes. Shouldnt it be the opposite? A low tier plane should be able to compensate with increased moddability, a high tier plane doesnt need an extra 4 or 5 or 6 body and arms slots because its baseline performance is that much higher.
>>587201470F-111B was built for what the F-14 ended up doing, but I suppose that doesn't stop the F-14B from being labeled attacker. Would be the most plausible option if PA knew the F-111 existed. EF-111 could also be another good EW option.
Is there a way to get more flares in PVP? Feels like every single jet I get in a dogfight with has an infinite supply, or at least 9 or 10 of them.
>>587226640The Felon would never use a PSM or let you get a firing solution for SASM to connect in the first place if it is on your ass though.
>>587227151Some jets get abilities that give them more flares. I have 8 on my 14A.
>>587197690A5 Vigilante would be a pretty keyed choice
>>587227151You get an extra two at level 20.Low tier planes get more than high tiers.Attackers get two more than other classes.Some planes have an ability for another two.I think that's it.
>>587227151I have a feeling the more flares abilities will start being mandatory once (if) we ever get the level 3+ parts and abilities
>>587227915I'm not sure level 3 abilities are ever coming. From testing it seems that level 2 are already in the game and are what you get if you use two of the same ability on the planes that get duplicates. So level 3 might require a plane to get three copies of the same ability which they'll probably never do.High level parts will be insane though, yeah. Use a fighter with missile homing 1+2+3+4 and you'll never miss ever.
>>587227506https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMszGS5Va3Y
>Alicorn with 4 F-15EsDude only got to submerge once, when it got destroyed.
>>587228484I'm starting to get the hang of SFFS, but I'm tempted to get a Strike Eagle to at least Lv10 because the Frogfoot handles terribly even at Lv20.
>>587227506I'm a big fan of badly translated horny tweets but I didn't ever expect to see any Ace Combat ones.
>>587228649Do it. The Eagle is best girl
>>587227062You're assuming that low tier planes are meant to be balanced against high tier planes. Ace Combat's philosophy is that later planes are meant to be better than earlier planes, full stop, and this is expressed in both higher base stats and better parts options. This makes sense from a single player standpoint (to really hammer home progression) and from a "I don't give a shit about multiplayer" standpoint (which would be way less lame if Cost limits weren't limited to Deathmatches).
Bamco netcode chimping the fuck out tonight. Got kicked out of 5 consecutive warfare matches and even got kicked all the way to the title screen from my own E-sortie party
>>587217567>elevators are still in the tunnel>Morgan drops a MPBM while everyone's inside
>forced to quit mid sortie>barely make it to the shitter>proceed to puke my guts out>stomach keeps convulsing despite there being nothing left>end up bedridden the rest of the day>fine todayPlanes for this feel?
>>587229634F-14A
>>587228484Mine didn't even submerge, I didn't know what happened other than most of us are using SFFSboats
>>587229634Go fly the Typhoon or some snappy fast rolling jet in Zero then compare it to rolling in any plane in 8 that's what being old and decrepit is like
>>587229634Damn I didn't know the online mode was that bad
>>587229783The Alicorn always get to submerge one time, doesn't mean it will get back to the surface though.
>>587230194Mine deadass did not even get to submerge and just skipped to the launch mode, it's so good when the whole team understand the assignment and locks in with the SPW choice
just noticed this>the doctored photo becomes realkino...
>>587230295Alright I get it, the joke wasn't funny.
1. click frogfoot2. ???3. get MVPIt's as simple as that
>>587230452Look man, it really didn't submerge I don't know how to tell you, either someone cheated or it is possible, your choice
>>587230619
God I wish that the burst missile was the final limit break unlock for the Morgan. I am sick of morgan nuggets getting in the way while everyone else is trying to aim at the targets in emergency sorties.
>>587230323>the wings is real>and so am i
>>587230840TLS ain't any better, random fucking smokes and explosions on my face when I'm trying to kill the propellers, someone actually crashed on AB because of this shit
>>587230840I will admit to flash banging everyone during the odd Arsenal Bird sortie, but I'm not so depraved as to do it against the Chandelier.
>>587230840>>587231164>when the nugget in the lvl1 Morgan shoots at the final target in the barrel from the outside, not realizing he has to fly in there first
>>587231164Imagine Morgans flash banging people through Fortress Intolerance, Megalith, Avalon, or in the SOLG.
>>587231334>>587231164>>587231162>>587230840>Chandelier>three morgan nuggets>everyone else is just shooting missiles at random shit>They don't even have the decency to kill any of the exSAMs. I killed the SAMs.>score 80kSomebody help me!!!!!!!! AAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
There are two kinds of ACO screencaps: ones where the guy censors his own name, and one where he censors everyone's names but his
>>587232398I'm sorry that your name showed up on the screenshot. Which morgan was you?
>>587232398I don't really see any reason to censor the names of randoms under either circumstance.
>>587232557Censoring just one draws attention to it, I'm gonna do pushups inside this guy's avatar if I catch him in the lobby
>>587232398I censor all of them before I post. I also blur license plates in photos I post.
>>587232789>posting random people's license plates is equivalent to posting random players' usernames???
>getting MvP in emergency sorties doesn't counter for the eventI hate it.
>>587233220I got my 3 MVPs flying a Growler in AssaultJust ESM in target rich areas and spam missiles
>>587233349>I got my 3 MVPs flying a Growler in AssaultHow the fuck
>>587232786There's 300 other characters who look exactly like that.
>>587233428Just ESM in target rich areas and spam missiles
>>587232557It seems like common courtesy to me.
>>587232398I censor everyone's names, except for the bots. When I bitch I'm usually bitching about the playerbase or certain types of players as a group, and if I'm singling out one nugget maybe they're just having a bad game. I'm also not good at online so I don't want to make it seem like I'm whining from a place of expertise, just from a slightly less braindead hill than the average public lobby rando.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1fRW6NSLqM
>>587234273>flag is green and red>neither green nor red present in their uniformsReally shows the disconnect between the common Sotoan man and Lux Lunae.
>>587230323>>587230953I coomed, I cried, I clapped. I will never not be moved by Hopemaxxing.
So where are the LAAM nerfs?
>>587234643They'll come after LAAMboats bully the team the next time they try to play Online. Can't wait for Miggers, Typhooners, and F-14Dickers spawncamp Kono and friends for an entire warfare match.
>>587234643Inside Kono's ass, never to see the light of day.
>>587234758I just want these cool titles
>>587234885I'm glad I don't like the 500 sortie title borders and have no desire to grind for them intentionally.
>>587234938Same. None of them are cool enough for me to forego gaining XP on a non-maxed plane.
>>587234758LAAMs aren't even a problem in PvP. The problem is that they rapid fire fast as fuck in PvE and AI targets just don't even attempt to evade, so it's 30k easy points in assault for any laamboat.
Separatists? More like traitors wagging their tail for Sotoa.
>>587234938"Nine Lives" and "Avenging Angel" are kinda cool but they're for the fucking F-14A and A-10
>>587234938>>587235131Lightning/storm themed fantasy RPG characters are just cool manI just played one a few months before 8 came out for Grim Dawn's expansion this year
>>587235569Ritualposters? More like shitposters bringing the thread closer to page 10.I kid of course
>>587235316>t. MiggerOn top of having the best range, they also have the best turn rate, 2nd best reload, 2nd best payload, 2nd best damage and 2nd best tracking angle. They're overtuned.
is gunning down helpless bailed out pilots really a matter of interpetation
>>587234643>>587234758You guys don't scamco hard enough.>Next season is AC5 themed>Premium pass aircraft is the Razgriz Tomcat with LAAM>Every meta chaser puts 60 gold blueprints into it>As soon as that session ends they nerf LAAM
>>587235776I'd say.
>>587235776He was only following orders
>>587235709At the very least the magnitude of the problem is worse in PvE than it is in PvP. In PvP the targets can defend against the overturned missile. You can't say the same for things like the TLS. In PvE each launch is just an easy free kill.
>>587235776He did it as a joke.
>>587235316You keep making this post ignoring how everyone can look at their stats and see how overtuned they are for themselves.
>>587235776A pilot is technically military equipment, the destruction of which is part of a legitimate operation
>>587235569>And a good morning to you, too. Fine weather we're having.
>>587235837Fair, they're definitely worse in PvE
>>587235971I just don't think that they are the biggest thing wrong in PvP. They're still overtuned missiles. It's super dumb that the long range bomber killer missiles are so good at splashing fighters. But shit like the TLS is a bigger issue. LAAM is overtuned but a player can take action to defend against it. The AI targets don't even try to defend. They just ignore it, and shots from damn near any angle hit because it has such an insanely high turn rate.
>>587235801>Premium pass aircraft is the Razgriz Tomcat with LAAMI hate that this tracks. Things would be a bit better the fix the AI logic to actually react to the incoming LAAMs by popping flares or turning away or something. They'd still be overtuned, but at least it wouldn't be a free kill every time.
>>587235801>Premium pass aircraft is the Razgriz Tomcat with LAAMI want the Razgriz Tomcat with better stats and QAAMs AND SASMs just because I think it would be really fucking funny.
>>587236645You're going to get>Ability: extra zollars
>>587235776Remember: Toprak is canonically in heaven
>>587236692I need that, boy am I broke
>>587236692I think they pulled that ability from the game.I watched a few reviews that had early access to online who mentioned that ability, but it's obviously not in the game currently
>>587236730Yeah, but he's in the shitty part of the steppe. The part with no bitches.
>>587236741You'll reach the point where you are functionally gated by gold BPs. Then zollars will pile up faster than you can spend them. You'll just be buying up the zollar paint schemes for random planes each week since you have nothing else to buy.
>>587236368>But shit like the TLS is a bigger issue.>the SPW limited to a single premium plane as a 60 general blueprint level 20 unlock>versus the common SPW found on many planes in every tier that anyone can buy, and is an immediate unlock for 2/3 of its most popular usersTLS is an unbalanced instakill flashlight but you're fucking high if you think that's anywhere near comparable to the proliferation of LAAMboats.
>>587236956>the SPW limited to a single premium plane as a 60 general blueprint level 20 unlockThe Morgan's level 20 unlock is the ECM. The TLS unlocks at level 5.
>>587234450I mean, Lux Lunae means Moonlight and they're elite so it makes sense they have these fancy black uniforms with Tewy's being white.
>>587236956Not him but they're easy to dodge if you know they're in play and pay attention.I can't even remember the last time I died to one.Yes, they are overtuned and should be nerfed.Bring their capacity to Gripen-tier or less.Double their reload.Bring turn down to around 50.But TLS is definitely the way bigger problem in pvp
>log in for my dailies>first warfare match>cheating nigger is on the other teamalt+f4I'll try again later
>>587237532What were they doing to cheat? I'm curious.
>>587176767Who are these cute girls?
>>587237575He's complaining about the fact he's a shitter who can't deal with a superior pilot.
TLS is only a problem if you're up against a joyless KB+M sweat (even on PC I play with a controller). Otherwise the Morgan is more of a novelty plane than anything, even in campaign.
>>587237686But when you inevitably run into one of those joyless kb+m sweats, boy is it a fucking problem.
>>587237575https://x.com/mamorx93/status/2116874953664733494
imagine playing warfare lmao
>>587237686Just use 2 yaw parts to enable the Rape Everyone and Leave mode for the TLS.
>>587237193>Not him but they're easy to dodge if you know they're in play and pay attention.This would be cool if Bamcode connection wasn't dogshit and hit detection wasn't clientside. It's rare but bullshit to fly 90 degrees at 2k to a LAAM and still get clipped because lolnetcode says you die. Can't speak for how cancer TLS is in PVP because I only play Warfare for missions/dailies and got my fill of Battle Royale in 7 to even bother with Deathmatch in 8. Especially when Deathmatch gives you lower payouts in EXP/Zoll.
>>587237801>staeni92youtubeOh god I got this fag's channel recommended to me today and he blatantly cheats, then deletes comments calling him out and calls everyone mad cuz badAlso ran into him on the opposite team once, in a TLS Morgan, being the exact kind of joyless KB+M sweat >>587237686 talks about
>>587237987Most Morgans are either nuggets that don't have the TLS or they're incompetent with it. But you just fucking die if someone good with TLS closes with 6km.
>>587237821>playing the online at all
Do you think that when Baxter died and went to fighter pilot valhalla, he and Cope exchanged their peoples' respective N-Word Passes?
>>587238548i exclusively do bombing runs in assault and it's very enjoyableemergency sorties too
>ace playthrough>think about letting Gemma live>remember how happy Baxter was when he got to go to spaceKILL ALL SOTOANS
>>587238603They prolly did that in life anyway. If Baxter and Cope were as close we think they might have been, it's a high possibility Bax knew about Cope being a Soat and kept it a secret because "he's one of the good ones".
Need a mod for 8 like the one in 7 that replaces the WSOs with the AI things Mihaly has in his planes, or at least some form of it. Makes the two seaters more believable when being flown by the player.
>>587238750REMOVE NOMAD
>>587238750I wanted to spare Gemma squadron just to see how the dialogue would be different on my Ace playthrough, but then I see you actually can't spawn the aces without shooting them down, so I had to let Mavisimen kill herself again.
>>587238879And lends more credit to Enso collecting your flying data as payment too.
>>587238757>baxter and cope meet up in the promised land>"i always did say the only good soat is a dead soat">*laugh track followed by pic related*
>>587238934Do you have to shoot Ventus down to get the aces to spawn?
>>587239050Yes.Massacre every last one of them as fast as possible.
>>587239015Yea I thought about that after I hit post.
>>587239050all of ventus and gemma within 3 minutes of them spawning in
>>587237801>MiggerYeah it checks out
>>587239020Perfection.
>>587238603Can you imagine the seethe from Cope when he was still alive? Baxter probably spouted so much racist shit about Sotoans daily while Cope had to sit there and take it, nodding along with him.
>>5872391533 minutes or less iirc
>>587238056>staeni92youtubeHow is he not instabanned from every online game by default? He's been at this shit for YEARS
>>587239407Cope was all about dunking on the top brass for being a bunch of LARPing faggots
>>587238056Also lmao at EAC being proven to do jack shit.
>>587238750I considered it too but then I ran out of ground targets with like five minutes to go
is getting 3 stars and then crashing a valid strat? I don't see any reason in maintaining this other than inviting everyone to jump you. Not like you'd get anything out of the stars, right?
>>587240171Score multiplier I thinkBut yes, it's a viable strat to farm points and add yourself to the ground's perfect combat record when the enemy team's hunters show up to harass you
>>587240171You get a huge score multiplier for every scoring action that you make while at 3*s.
>>587239407>grow up as the son of a poor commoner shepherd>land dries up, can't feed the flock anymore>dad sells the sheep, family moves to Usea for a better life>join the FCU air force to make ends meet>suddenly the nobility of your old country declare war on your new country by invoking nomadic culture, values and traditions which they have never shared or participated in>now your new country hates your guts, even though the Sotoan commoners never supported the LARPing nobles' war>even worse, your childhood noble friend is the enemy commander>and your wingman ie a turbo racist who thinks your people are subhuman animals>you randomly die while escorting a civilian airliner at the hands of said evil LARPing nobles>your passenger nugget takes your name and identity and turns out to be a Gundam Newtype who immediately outshines you>you're now dead and forgotten, denied peace and happiness at every moment of your past life>you continue to linger in this world, your regrets at never having finished the job and put your now-evil childhood friend down keeping you from moving onJan deserved better in life. He was a good man in an unkind world.
>>587196410F-111.
>>587240232>>587240245guess it's valuable for attackers, but not so much for us fighters, you rarely hit stuff anyway
>should I multiply my score with this score multiplier? or throw it away immediately?This is your teammate.
>>587240298>you're now dead and forgottenHe's talked about for the rest of the game and gains closure via Rex. Not what I'd consider forgotten.
>>587240357A good fighter at 3* can still rake in bulk points, especially if they shoot down other 3* players.
>>587240439>should I paint a big 'fuck me and I'll pay you' sign on my back or just toss it away
>>587240298I honestly don't understand why people liked Cope. Even before I learned that he's a chronic gambler that owes everyone money.
>>587240546>play pvp game mode>would rather crash than engage in pvp
>>587240550>Even before I learned that he's a chronic gambler that owes everyone money.that stuff doesn't even come up in-game aside from the implied "that takes me back" when they revealed XO's callsign
>>587240684IIRC during the concert Cope says he owes someone money
>>587240546You should at least try to make use of the big payouts it gives your team for as long as you can.Unless you don't give a flying fuck about the team aspect, but then if you just wanna bomb shit on your own, why aren't you just playing one of the many singleplayer ground pounding missions?
>>587240550I liked him as the doubter, he's the negative fear based part of your brain that tells you "you shouldn't do it", it feels good to BTFO him when you not only succeed but fucking triumph.
>>587240298>Fake FCU ace was actually the realest Sotoan nomad
>>587240684>>587240776I'm pretty sure it also came up during the background checks after the Moles leaked that Cope was a Sot**n
>>587241026Almost as if that was one of his biggest character traits or something, wow
>>587241026>so Nomadic that he left his home nation>joined the military branch that had the highest chance of sending him somewhere new>always packed light, meanwhile Tewy needs a special jeep just to accomodate her fancy super wheel chair
>>587241395>always packed light, meanwhile Tewy needs a special jeep just to accomodate her fancy super wheel chairshe would need a fancy jeep even if she was rolling around in a regular ass wheelchair tho
>>587240298man just wanted to play banjo and eat cheese curds.
>>587238056Hey, I saw that guy before. All my missiles are phasing through him and saw him just pull plug, then I get shot down without any warning>>587176767Cute!Glory to Kazormia>>587237660Dochka and Snezhinka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1fRW6NSLqMAll this time we thought Sotoa was not-Iran or not-Mongolia, all this time they were actually El Salvador.
>>587241395Basically>Real Nomads = Integrative Immigrants >Fake Nomads = Expansionist ColonistsHrrrmmmmm uggghhh is Sotoa meant to be...?
Is throwing double sasm blast radius parts on my Game a bad idea?
>>587243014Yes if you fire them while not turning they will immediately detonate and you'll splash yourself
>>587243014Put at least a tracking part on.
>>587240546You don’t know what it’s like to splash targets at a competent speed, do you? You hit 3* then kill as many things as possible in that time so the other team can never catch up due to the multiplier.
>>587240609>design pvp mode>more benfical to crash than pvpGood job PA
How are they so quiet on DLCs? 7's DLC practically revived the game. Has AC8 even reached 2 mil yet? Put me in charge of PA and I'll get it to 10 mil. Some of these DLC ideas are guaranteed free money>Queen Flight-perspective campaign>Prequel missions of the final days of the Sotoa-Yuktobania war with Tashamom and Tewy>DLC campaign with Dision and/or Rena setting up AC9/ElectrosphereAnd the DLC would include a planes expansion pack and challenge missions.
>>587242640That elementary school in Expo City was a valid military target.
>>587242640Sotoa takes elements from Turkish, Mongolian, and Iranian history/culture (among others), yes.
>>587244174Any announcement of DLC would sort of spoil the GR connection that's forming. Until you finish 8, General Resource is just a memory rather than the looming villain. The DLC should be the formation of UPEO and Neucom though, that'd be the perfect epilogue to set up the coming nightmare of Electrosphere. Plus, I'm sure they're splitting the resources with trying to make a functional ACI successor, even if it is barebones at the moment. They've spent too much effort on it to just let it be the way it is for too long.
Stoat did nothing wrong. They waged a precision war using limited, tactical strikes to demilitarise and defederalise Usea.
>>587245000>limited, tactical strikesGoats and kids are not valid military targets, you fucking nomad
>>587242494And just like Sotoa, they're a bunch of mass-murdering LARPers.
>>587245000This guy's an Enso glowie who paid the mods to get him trips
>>587245000>Stoat did nothing wrongHoly CORRECT trips
<< Lost engines, we're going down. >>
>>587244473Ehhhh would it? GR were already villains in AC7 and AC8 emphasized them even further.
Gripen has SASM and LAAM, why bother with anything else?
>>587248737Lack of A2A damage ability does hold it back a bit, but according to the database it could get that ability eventually.
>>587248737Because it's a multirole with no air damage ability so it isn't a good user of them.
I want a fancy stealth plane with SASM and SAAM>fox 1s>stealthThis game has supersonic A10's/su25s, fox 1s and 3s that get flared and confused by clouds, and fox 2s that get bamboozled by ecm
>>587248963Well you can have 66% of that. And with good abilities.Two out of three isn't bad.
How does the [RAILGUN WARNING] work? Is there a specific in-universe radar that is specifically used for tracking targets for a railgun shot? It should be the same as TLS, PLSL or guns, no warning for thoseBut of course the real reason is that hearing [RAILGUN WARNING] is just cool
>>587248737stop tickling me step eurobro, I'm sending you to hell with my fighter class buffed SASM otherwise
>>587249162Presumably the same magic that can tell someone's locking an IR missile on to you. Even if it hasn't fired. Even if there's terrain in the way.
>>587248737If you equip both, you get only a few of both missles.Being delta wing means bad low speed maneuverability.Multirole means no extra damage to air targets and worse maneuverability than fighters.No A2A ability nor SASM radius ability makes your SASMs rather weak.Only 3 arms slots so you can't boost SASMs fully.It's still a good plane though. You can make it work if it's your planefu or deltafu.
>>587244174Because there's probably no DLC missions coming, otherwise there'd be a season pass for sale You retards kept begging for infinity 2.0 and now you better enjoy it
>>587249162Probably the semi-autonomous AI installed in the radar is absolutely terrified by these unforeseen events and starts to panic
>>587249162Well the railguns seem to need to charge to fire. You can presumably detect that electromagnetic potential buildup and warn the pilot.
>>587244473GR isn't a 'looming villain' though? the only real villain 3 is Dission and park by extension, the Corps are pretty chill
>AC7>set a decade before AC8>age of drones>game has so much dronespam>AC8>barely any drones except the cargo ship terrorists, Tewy’s plane and the TriumphantDid they somehow lose the technology or something?
>>587250005Only now finding out they don't care about continuity outside of aces at war and nagase?
>>587249162Maybe they detect the electromagnetic buildup. The warning always go off whenever there’s a railgun preparing to be fired. It seems the warning can’t detect the target unlike missile alert
>>587250005>Battleship fully capable of autonomous operation>Lock the crew in to fry them anywaySotoans simply don't subscribe to the idea of warring without death.
What's the deal with CPU players online? Why do games sometimes drop because someone withdrew, and other times you just seem to matchmake with a CPU player?Wouldn't it make more sense to always replace a dropped player with a CPU player and only drop the match if the game got down to like, 2 guys on one team vs 4 CPU players?
>>587250005Erusea had Belkan pedo working on the good shit for them, Sotoa was a bunch of LARPing retards getting scammed by StrangeAmazon.
>>587250109>firing blindly to any target>fully autonomousI think Sotoa’s AI tech is kinda behind. The Triumphant is the one with fully autonomous AI and it is made with Enso and GR technology
>>587250158if you're in character select screen -> disconnect the whole lobbyif you're mid game -> replaced by a braindead F-4
>>587250005>hey trigger we gon need you to put an end to the drone production>most drones are gone save for a few token appearances and the triumphant in ac8seems logical to me
>>587250446This, but also if the game can't find enough people for coop then it'll start the game with bots. It can go as low as four humans.
>Wiki said Triumphant is an FCU-made submarineThen what's the point of (You) if FCU has a submarine that scales with Goku on their side? Why didn't they just deploy it? It's pretty much complete, based on its cameo on mission 4. You could hack the tonitrus to use it against Sotoa, why not just use it to solo the entire universe???
>>587250795I got a 3v3 lobby once too, I guess if you see the opposing team has a CPU you could take one for the team and ragequit so the match can be played?
>>587250868It was being built on Newfield Island when Sotoans captured the island. They're the ones that have nearly finished it.
>>587251080and then you guys recaptured the zone, why not use the stuff you get? I'd love to have my very own unmanned superweapon for once?
>>587251207It runs away when you're attacking Newfield
>>587251335really? I wish people talk about it more so it doesn't seem like an asspull superweapon boss.
>>587250005after the whole "drones causing infinite war" fiasco in 7 i think it's pretty obvious all nations decided to scale down that shit
>>587251424How about you fucking pay attention instead of relying on others to tell you what happened in the game you've just played?
hehhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1fRW6NSLqM
>>587252224meh
>>587250005Literally the first mission has you shooting down UAVsMission 2 begins with UAVs ambushing the enduranceAll of the land battleships mas produce dronesThe ladons use suicide drones The calaeno uses dronesDo you fags just not pay attention at all?
>>587252457Nigger that's the third time you plug your edit, we get it, it's funny, and now you're making it annoying, stop it.
>>587252457Ctrl+F is your friend faggot.
>>587253225where are all the AI ace pilots? why are we still bothering with flesh pilots in the year 2030 when you have shit like ZOE, Hugin, Munin and Nemo?
>>587225398Demonstrably false, thanks to the Shootouts.>>587225875A single physics bug that inexplicably wasn't fixed doesn't mean that PvP as a whole didn't work in 7.
>>587129371SAAMbrother do not reveal out secrets. Let the dogs die to us.
>>587129371>They're leading an have an A-6E on their teamWhat the fuck was your team doing in all honesty?
>>587129371I tried this in ACZ and it doesn't work, are you cheating?
I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ELECTROSPHERE AND ITS REDDITPUNK STORY
I've baked the last 5 threads, someone else do it this time
>>587254186I would but I am already in my pajamas.
>>587254186What's there to do? It's just a copy paste with a new silly OP pic and a link to this thread.
>>587254168>redditpunkWhat the fuck does this even mean?
>>587254349It's just a schizophrenic, leave him be
>>587230323Just noticed that the position of Joker flight has a space for a 5th plane that isn't there cause its for our brother baxter.
>>587235801I feel like the Razgriz F-14 is going to just be the TGM Tomcat but razgriz. It'll be specced as a endgame dogfighter with QAAMs, SAAMS, and HVAAs.
>>587238750>Try to spare Gemma >the blue FCU allied aircraft hunt them down and kill themHell yeah. Fuck em up.
What's the worst SPW for online, 2AAM?
New Bread>>587254859
>>587254690Probably. It really shouldn't exist. I get that they wanted Growler to have a bad second special so Barricader could look better but it's way too bad.Also fuck whoever gave it to F-16, fuck you, you suck, you should not have done that, fuck you fuck you fuck you.
>>587250005Nukes:Zero::Drones:7
