Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9721 - Roboardnik Edition==NEWS==>Discord server launched 5 October 2026discord.gg/SonicOfficial>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>587145768
cnc
¿Crees que si finjo que onions yo quien posa para Tails, podré engañarlo para que pose para mí?
Cute and canon!
>>587206587Fiona would be leading the mob.
>>587206116Which is why ai slopper will never be able to port Jazz Jackrabbit from DOS to Windows/Mac/Linux. They cannot handle it.Same way they couldn't handle porting Sonic 2 without it being a buggy unplayable mess.
Tails!
>>587206664LLMs can be used for this type of work, of course it needs a competent person operating them
>Do you feel in charge?
>>587206751Boy!
>>587206656The government of united nations doesn't want you to know this but Shadow regularly plaps Amy.
>>587206656Trvke!
>>587206984:D
>>587206905I do not disagree with that statement at all. Yes, LLMs are great and are an excellent tool. What I do push back against is the sloppers.Ai cannot shit out competent DOS ports. It is far too weak for that.
>>587206587Who of Sonic's friends could a group of ~6-8 adult humans actually beat up?
T word
GUN doesn't want you to know this but the blobians at the park are free. You can take them home with you.
Wife
>>587207216Alright, we agree then
Both are the ''ultimate being''?
>>587206905Tech industries that focus on giving software to the masses will be forever tainted by AI and forever afraid of competing with average Joes with access to AI. What we're witnessing is the digital equivalent of the gun, and all the laws and controversies and abuse and revolutions that will come with it
If you call it "maths" instead of math, I regret to inform you that Vanilla is unable to tutor you.
>>587207265This is simply too much cheese
>>587207493Interesting perspective. Hopefully they don't try to ban us from having powerful hardware (a fear that's been had long before AI...)
So, to the ai sloppers in the thread, this does exist.https://github.com/sp00nznet/pcrecompHowever, if you think you'll be able to slop port Jazz Jackrabbit with it, you'll be surely mistaken.
>>587207238vanilla is the only one that could be considered truly civilian tier. even the shittiest idw oc can take on eggman's robots
>>587207256>if IDW was canon
Kill Tails
>>587207516Who's the better tutor (objectively) Vanilla or Tails?
Shadria>Shadouge>Sonadow>Shadamy
>>587207256This image reminds me of a greentext I read a while ago. Some anon was trying to grow veggies but a couple of rabbits kept eating them so he caught both of them, researched that rabbits get extremely aggressive and jealous over their mate so he put the male in a separate cage to force it to watch the female get bred by a huge domesticated male rabbit until the cucked male started bleeding from the teeth from chewing on the cage so much.Uhhh basically Katella should repeat that experiment here.
>>587207265We know Sonic
>>587208164Vanilla, Tails doesn't know how to "dumb it down" yet.
>>587208204Shadamy is ooc because of Sonamy
>>587206989>>587207042CnC indeed
>>587208205That's hot.
Douge
Shadamy is proof that dogfucker is the one astroturfing hate against other Shadow ships that aren’t Shitria
>twitter linkKys
>>587207572No such thing
>>587208605Explain?
>>587208745>I’m just crackers about cheese!
>>587207995That's Nine, but I agree with the statement.
>>587208745THAT'S ENOUGH SLICES
>>587208745"Cheesed to meet you.">Hard smash cut to mating press
>>587206619¡GATAAAAAA!
https://sonadow.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
Ian's writing tries to prevent readers from having multiple interpretation
The master race
>>587207265Tails…
>>587209503Yea and it's really stupid and dumb.
>>587209480I'm so grateful I'm a male and not a fujo
>>587209758Sonurgefags are just as retarded as Sonadowfujos
>that time when Metal Sonic beat up a rabbi
We should just eliminate all foids desu. We can just replace them with AI and artificial wombs.
>>587209519...and Shadow, who is a mixed-raced abomination
>>587210162>Japanese fans hate jpfaggotryIan wonj
>>587210162Japanese Frontiers is shitty
>>587209519SASS. The ultimate union of all the hedgehogs
The man who made shadow spam likes art of him completely naked in bed and the bath with his blonde wife on pixiv.
>>587210162>Kishimoto rushjobbed through correcting Ian's trash with MTL toolsOdds the next game's translations will be handled entirely by AI?
i wish i was silver
>>587209815Duo is the only Sonurgefag
>>587210554When you see Silver's fandom in person, I understand why Uwuver exists. Canonver was never this popular.
>>587210624it's not like every single sonic and shadowfag in person on that expo is a sonadowfag
>>587210738Western Sonadow fujos are the worst. They want Sonic and Shadow to actually be gay for each other in the canon and argue that Sonic Team actually wants it too
>>587210432Shadria is the most canon ship in Sonic without irony.
Did archie sonic online showed any sneak peak of the next issue in the sonic expo or nah ?
>>587210961fanart on pixiv is not canon
What if Surge raped Eggman to assert her dominance instead of letting him go. Would she make him her bottombitch?
>>587211063He supports his OCs making love. SA2 is written by a man who wants them to fuck.
>>587211201Still not canonically romantic
>>587209028Me acuesta con mis mejores clientes después de una sesión intensa (la cariña es un extra). <3 No hay nada de mala en eso, ¿no?
>>587211091>SHITangle Canonically FLED like a COWARD from STACYurge btw
>>587211273Called romantic by Sonic Team twice. Delicious, based, and canon.
>>587211302Artist is a minails shipper
>>587211369sonic channel fanart section is not romantic neither.
i know for certain who is going to appear in the post credit scene
>>587211437I can't hear you over the sound of canon
i want himhttps://files.catbox.moe/2fngio.jpg
>>587211717why do you have a canon? that sounds dangerous...
>>587206384>Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Wrong date OPit going to be released at December of 2026 not November of 2026.
>>587210738Fiona went to the Expo without me?
>>587211595>Blobian ChrisLol, why?
”You know, I never had much as a kid.. just loving parents, stability, and a mansion, and a giant group of servants and maids for me to inherit… Useless crap like that.”
>>587211812Nope, that's cover date.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_dateOP is correct, magazines are retarded.
>>587211812Why december? it usually releases once a month.
Cute! Canon, you might say!
>>587211306>Tangle canonically outran Surge"Sonic-tier" my ass
>>587211986strong case of autismo
>>587211776Just like the Founding Fathers intended.
>>587212198trvke
When you say you like SA2, Heroes, '06, and Black Knight Shadow, always remember the writer fully believes Shadow would have sex with Maria. This is Shadow's true characterization in its rawest most undiluted uncensored form. Shadow would never exist without a man who wanted him to make sweet love to Maria.
>>587207238This would been much cooler in a non-Shadow game.
>>587212665Thanks Krack
>>587210162What does the mod translate the japanese to?
Eating Dapple like how she eats an apple
>>587207238Tails
>>587212762PLAPPLE the DAPPLE
>>587212762Silver's wife.
>>587212665shadow is so lucky!
>>587212146>>587212119 if that the case then why does the fandom wiki state that issue 18 will be released in December ?
*headpats your OC*
>>587212762Shooting an arrow through Dapple like an apple
>>587212226>outranBENEVOLENTurge LET NITCHangle go. As we've seen in the comics, multiple times now, MERCIFULurge will often graciously allow peons to flee before her MIGHT as they aren't worth her time.
>>587212996Because. They are. RETARDS!
shadaria smuts?
>>587212009>loving parents, stability>Implying Blackwood had any of theseI feel like the whole hypnotizing a bride and going on tirades about control and trust kinda conveys that Blackwood's life was pretty unstable actually.
>>587213239What a saint
be heterosexual
>>587212996You must be new here.
be gay for sonichttps://files.catbox.moe/gy2ipv.jpg
>>587213318>This much panels over her traversingI would be neutral to this character normally but now she annoys me.
>>587210432>>587212665Did I miss something?
>>587213279Canon.
>>587212879cnc
>>587213318Sounds more like your typical villain who thought their family was wishy-washy and didn't have a TRUE vision.
fns (feed and seed)
>>587212748NTA, my impression is it just rewrites/proofreads it to be more legible and feel more natural....which is kind of stupid because the voices are still using the stilted dialogue, and it sort of accidentally works for this game given the cyberspace makes everyone not quite tbemselves...
>>587213493Anon tracked down Shiro Maekawa's Pixiv account where he bookmarks art of Shadow and Maria naked together multiple times.
>>587211134>Eggman: Outruns Sonic, regularly bodies furries without mechs>Surge: Jobs to a bucketNot likely.
>>587213754I frankly wonder if the original reads too much like an LLM or something to the japanese. I wouldn't blame them for disliking it.
>>587206984why does it look like he's sitting on my chest and trying to strangle me?
>Let's bomb some Muslim kids
>>587214268I'm pretty sure even /co/ was impressed when Eggman bodied Starline and later Surge.
>>587213493maekawa liked this art >>587213330it is now canon by decree of the maekawagods
Didn't know Maekawa was that obsessed with Shadow x Maria. Seems like the age ratinf of the franchise is the only reason he ndver implied the two of them had sex.
>>587214509He did also buy sonadow art
>>587212748Just gonna say I'll laugh my ass off if it's translating parts of the other languages (i.e.English) that the modder likes better.
>>587214640from his irl friend mirai who was handing it out at a con he went to.
>>587214419We never appreciated how cool Sonic looked like holding a sword
But if you said to Silverfags that Bentley created Silver's theme as a gay song, they would deny all allegationsShadowfags are better, they fully accept Shadow would bang a 12 year old as Maekawa envisioned
>>587214268>jobbed to a bucketDoesn't count. Surge was suffering a mental health crisis. Once she recovered we see her ANNIHILATE SHARTnic with ease.
>>587214764>Modern Shitnic>coolkek
>>587213581I think it's pretty interesting that apparently Blackwood's great grandfather, the one that knockdown the original Blackwood castle and replaced it with a dragon mecha, wasn't an actual Blackwood.Maybe Blackwood himself isn't really a Blackwood, but i don't know, as a Sonic fan, I'm bad at reading between the lines, lol.
Is Surge a really true super cool tenrec, or a poser
>>587214325he looks like he's fucking my pussygeeze anon,be normal
>>587214839He didn't even intend it as a ''gay song'' he said it was about his break up but he's gay.he isn't silver nor is he a writer or a creatorin the actual game, the melody mirrors this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpOsyhBNWX4
I do not consider maekawa an authority on this franchise and frankly his gross mischaracterization of Tails, Knuckles and Amy is warrant enough to call everything he did noncanon but that would interfere with Randomfox and Krack's agenda posting so they never bring it up.
So Maria and Shadow made love and it's canon
>>587215194How did he mischaracterize them?
>>587214509That's probably true. There's no other explanation for liking this.
>>587214920she seems very inconsistently powerful.
>>587214839The equivalent would be Nakamura saying it's gay not the songwriter saying it's about his relationship.
>>587211773Do you think Sonic actually moans hard and loud? That little body can't contain his thrist for cock
>>587215194But those are the best characterizations of those characters?
>>587215228He turned Knuckles into a retard. Amy into a crazy yandere and Tails into essentially Jimmy Neutron. These fuck ups have been a black mark on these characters since SA2 as evidenced by the fact that fans nowadays legit think Knuckles has always been stupid and Tails has always been the geek kid.
>>587215487Maekawa never did that.
>>587215276just like silver
Shadria is astroturfed
>>587215487He didn't do any of this and you are probably a tailscel
>>587215214Unironically canon
>>587212009>>587213318>Infinite in Chaotix Casefiles>Blackwood in IDWI'm noticing a trend here-- Everyone this "mysterious stranger" props up is a fucking loser.I guess that makes Starline king of the losers>>587214447Wish I saved some reactions from that thread, it was legendary.
>>587215567>>587215589Yes he did.
>>587215276This was a new technique. And it leaves her as exhausted as the people she hit
>>587215487Actually, Maekawa (SA2, Heroes, sorta Black Knight) handled Knuckles pretty well as a supporting character, the worst was 06.While Maekawa wrote Amy's most infamous moments, the fans have started to come around to those moments. He did regress Tails in the storybook games and Heroes tho.
>>587215487Knuckles has always been stupid. I don't think he has ever shown not being stupid
Everyone who has been or is currently in charge of this franchise was either and idiot (Iizuka) or someone who definitely has some form of autism (Naka, Maekawa). Idk why anyone would take anything these people say seriously. Especially Iizuka. That guy is simply an idiot and has no idea what he's doing. Two worlds my ass. How about he sucks on my two nuts.
>>587215642Mama Stinkerton will buck the trend.
>>587216220i like maekawa a lot
>>587213907I always found it super-strange Sonic Battle spoils that Shadow is the real one and gets his memory back, but that doesn't actually happen in this game. It happens entirely off-screen. Hell, Sonic 2006 and Sonic Rivals characterize his memory ambiguously and for all we know he's still amnesiac there. Could've at least added a postgame ending for Expert Mode where Shadow makes it clear he remembers, but nope. Are we even really sure all of his memory actuallybreturned?
Maekawa likes art of Shadow abandoning Team Dark for Maria sexo...
>>587216352pretty weird
>>587215642Fucking BRUTAL.If the rubble didn't get him, he had maybe about a minute left before the internal brain bleeding got him.Talk about "cracking an egg," man!
Does this bitch do anything other than shitpost, start drama and stalk people online? Genuinely asking because it really does seem like thats all she fucking does these days.
>>587216524This is insane
Do we have other shipfags on sonic team besides maekawa and maybe oshima
>>587216524>the one scene shadougefags have is written by this guy
>>587216220I'm not gonna worship hacks like Ian and Evan or glaze the Lore Team no matter how much you try, buddy. They have done worse for th re franchise.
Crazy development after the move on debate
>>587216524Uhhhhhh teamdarksisters wtf is this
>>587216761I didnt mention any of those guys because they are not in charge of the franchise.
Xitter now reverted to jpgs and pngs instead of webps so I can phonepost again
Iizuka learned from his mistakes, he is good now
>>587216794Every time you challenge Shadria the universe conspires against you
>>587215642Because they're all jobbers as nobody is allowed to beat Sonic & co.
>>587216794It's almost like the ShadHope debate where Penders dropped in like a week later and killed it.
>>587215423yes, i believe that he screams for more and more until he reaches climax and lets out the hottest and loudest moans imaginable as he gets his ass filled with hot flowing viscous cum
I miss Arenafag.
>>587216193Knuckles intelligence peaked in S3&K when he was overwhelming Sonic with traps and beating Master Emerald powered robots. Of course, that was Classic Knuckles, who is smarter than Modern Knuckles.
>>587216794If the "Shadow moved on" position is correct, that means I gaslit myself into a headcanon that Shadow is unilaterally loyal to Maria all the way from childhood to adulthood and Sonic Team just happened to confirm my existing biases for the sake of paramount promotion
>>587216932Canon art
>>587217064Knuckles' intelligence peaked in the game he gets tricked by Eggman? Wow
>>587217064Knuckles wasn't smart in S3&K, he was just the only one who knew how Angel Island works.
Realistically speaking, Surge had Eggman dead to rights here. If it wasn't for his plot armor he'd be dead. No stop.
>Shadow should move on to Hope like in ArchiePenders: Who the fuck said I was going to do that >Shadow should move on to Team Dark like in 06Maekawa: Shadow wants to have sex with Maria
Farted so hard it scratched my hemmeroids. Sonic characters with this feel?
>>587216524How will the people who post that one Sonic '06 scene cope with the writer confirming Shadow still wants Maria butt even with Rouge and Omega around?
>>587216453>beating a MF with a MF>thats mother fucker and metal faker respectively.
The people asking for Shadow to move on literally confessed they didn't know where Shadow's character would even go after that.
>>587217064Everything about Modern is worse, such a shitty soft reboot
Made for human-blobian marriage
>>587217365The timing on the Hope thing was ridiculous
>>587217365Shadow and Maria's love is so powerful it transcends fiction and influences reality.
>>587215897awww she's all tuckered out
>>587216932Webp is the most astroturfed file format on the internet. Nobody actually supports it.
This is how I prefer Krack to be, spamming Shadria lolikon instead of bitching about Shadamy.
I dont share any of my opinions or headcanons on here because you people are crazy and schizo as shit. It sucks because I love theory crafting but the last time I did that on here I was being called a bunch of different namefags and then a falseflagger by schizos. You guys really make it impossible for any real discussions to be had on here.
>>587217621You can thank Google for that avif is much better.
>>587217540Cute!
List of IDW recurring characters by alignment (Updated 9/27/2026)>GoodTangle (female)Whisper (female)Jewel (female)Lanolin (female) (ABT wishes she was a schizo)Belle (female)Nite (Allegedly Gay male)Don (Allegedly Gay male)Surge (Female) (Wants to kill Sonic but doesn't want to kill innocents or Eggman, see 2024 annual)>EvilRough (Male) (Allegedly redeemed, still fighting Sonic and co)Tumble (Male) (Allegedly redeemed, still fighting Sonic and co)Dr. Starline (Male)Mimic (Male) (Possibly dead)Clutch (Male) (Eggman's mind controlled ass slave)Kitsunami (Male) (Will cause harm to innocents in order to make Surge look good, see 2024 annual)Blackwood (Male)>One off charactersElder Scruffy (male) Generic background character. Got beaten by Rough and Tumble.Ashe (male) Generic background characterDiamond Cutters (mixed bag) Characters who exist to be FRIDGED cause its okay when females do itValdus (male) Ran a museum full of stolen stuff cause political talking pointMegani (female) "Thief" who was stealing from a museum of stolen stuff cause not really evilSoleil (non binary aka femboy) Actual schizophrenic who isn't evil.Soleil's trope (mixed bag) Generic background charactersHalloween special kids (mixed bag) Generic background charactersDapple (female) Knockoff of BelleNote: Only actual Sega approved named characters are counted. No "Ashe's father" or "Steven Universe kid". Not that any of them did anything substantive anyway.This is how intersectional feminists are. All men are evil unless they are gay and/or trans. I'd add non-white but they'll throw black men under the bus just as quick as they do whites (See Shadow's treatment). I thought updating this list would mean that maybe, just maybe they'd tone down their religious bullshit but I was wrong. The fact that the male feminist editor got gone and nothing has changed shows it isn't an Editor issue but a creative one.
I would like to Carrottia in the mouth.
Shadow x Rouge is the game equivalent to Sonic x Sally. The only person involved in the franchise who supports it is Ian.
>>587217646Well that's an odd thing to say
>>587217985>The only person involved in the franchise who supports it is Ian.wtf i hate shadouge now??
Supplement: List of Evil characters in the Sonic gamesDoctor Eggman (male)Eggman's Robots (N/A)Witchcart (female)Bearanger (male)Hocke-wolf (male)Carrolita (female)Battle Kukku Army (male)Fang the Hunter (male)Elderich monsters (N/A)Shadow the Hedgehog (Somewhat changed sides after Shad05)Rouge the Bat (changed sides after Sonic Adventure 2)Black Doom (male)Erazor Djinn(male)Merlina (female)Eggman Nega (male)Zavok (Male)Zeena (Female)Zomon (Male)Zazz (Male)Master Zik (Male)Zor (Male)Infinite (Male)Sage (Female)Notice how Sega/Sonic Team hasn't had any problems making EVIL female characters.
>>587217918It's not really feminism but moreso that female villains aren't taken seriously in this kind of action media, the games themselves don't have a true female villain either.
>>587217738It's intentional. Krack wants this place to be her personal hugbox so she attacks anything that isn't something she likes. Then you have a handful of other shitposters who wants to use this place as a bullying platform because they're too scared to use kiwifarms.
>>587218002>>587218140
>>587218140Anon!!!! Hide before janny gets you!!!!!
>>587218140Bye anon.
>>587218150>poorly aged post
>>587218098Merlina and Sage are ''tragic uwu villains'' Rouge isn't really one, Zeena is the ony one that might qualify.
>>587215926This is the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
>>587218313>Rouge isn't really oneIf you think this bitch wouldn't rob you for your jewels, you are certified retarded.
>>587218251Tragic sob story villains shouldn't count and that's the only kind sonic team kinda dabbled in
>>587218140Where did you get this pic of Shadow's daydream
>>587218313Sage isn’t a tragic villain.
>>587218397>local anon gets his testicles stolen
>>587217210Classic Knuckles stopped trusting Eggman after picrel, but picrel didn't stop Modern Knuckles from trusting Eggman multiple times in later adventures like SA1 and Advanced 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvzC__NJ3F4
>>587216629He lived, but there's no telling how physically and mentally scarred the ordeal left him. Those bandages probably aren't just for show
Every queen deserves her king...
>>587218603Poor Shadow....
Maekawa's likes confirm your blobian waifu might be sexually attracted to you (human male)
What are you guys going to do when this franchise dies?
>>587218815...Continue playing the video games. Just like with Jazz Jackrabbit.
>>587218859You've cracked bro...
>>587218397>>587218603And then she gives them back because she's a good girl; unlike those dastardly thieves that keep what they steal
>>587218859ANON GET DOWN
>>587218815I dunno, probably put more energy into my other gaming interests
>>587218815What I've been doing when I'm not here, duh.
So when is IDW gonna have a proper female villain? Surely the IDW staff in this thread can answer that.
>>587218815I'll likely be old or dead by then
>>587219089KIT THAT WASNT WATER THAT WAS A GALLON OF PCP
>>587219110why do we need a female villain?
Aren't Shadow and Maria, like, siblings?...You're into some weird shit, bro!
>>587219110You must have some arbitrary definition of proper. Enigma is a female villain. Oh wait she doesn't lead an arc as a main focus so she doesn't count
>>587218859I'm thinking based?Perhaps even canon?
>>587218815Stop coming to this site altogether and probably stop going on the internet as well outside of furry poen sites.
>>587219151So when they got all those chaos emeralds kit took them all and put them under his genitals he pawned them all in a spending spree for his crippling addiction to PCP
>>587218859he should be fucking sonic instead
Japanese people are always complaining about that one Tails line in Frontiers. I feel like they aren't considering the bigger picture.
>>587219168Why are females not allowed to be villains?
>>587219110> So when is IDW gonna have a proper female villain?February
I've cummed and now I feel dehydrated, thanks alot
>>587219310Nobody said they arent. But there shouldnt be some gender quota we need to tick off, hero OR villain
>>587219169When I see sex it reminds me of my sibling
>>587219110>>587219360We're getting Mama Stinkerton in the Surge arc. I have no clue why people keep pushing this skunk bros connection
>>587219310no one said they were, but what value does a female bring that a male villain doesn't?
>>587219370cum some more, it's nonstop nut november after all
>>587219390Sure...why do we have gay characters in IDW Sonic again?
Wish I may, wish I mightBe someone else tonightSometimes I wish I was never born at allAnd I'll try to save the world'Cause in the end I knowI'm the chosen one
>>587219169Mina should wear less!
Japanese fans are convinced Ian Flynn's writing on Frontiers is great the same way gamefags were convinced Ian Flynn's writing on Frontiers was going to be great. They'll realize it was a mistake once they actually experience it
>>587219168to own da liberals and to masturbate to her
>>587219519Did Sega tell you that Nite and Don are gay or did they approve an on-page kiss?
>>587217918Why are Rough and Tumble, who are allegedly redeemed and just get into low stakes sparing matches with Sonic and his friends like most rivals in the evil section, but Surge who also gets into sparring matches with Sonic but wants to kill him even if she doesn't want to hurt innocents people (innocent people she mostly sees as collateral for her hero work, and does want to kill Eggman also shown in the Annual), in the good section?
>>587219360>>587219461I'd bet $100 that "Mama Stickerton" turns out to be a dindonuthin wrong who has support her family/was forced into evil by some male. No, I have no faith in the IDW staff to make a proper female villain. Not after what happened to Surge.
If Maekawa likes it then it has to be canon
>>587219569Its really funny how Mina (in porn especially) has a chest color closer to canon than canon girls get. Free of Sally influence
Remind me again why this general is on /vg/ and not in /trash/.
>>587219461I don't see how a character named Mama STINKerton would have a connection to two SKUNKS in a series with naming conventions that are as subtle as a semi-truck going over 120
>>587219692I also think this and say this
>>587219569STOP THAT AT ONCE!!
>>587219758Because its a pun on Pinkerton. Her name isnt "the skunk". Is Megani related to Infinite because theyre both jackals?
>>587219587The japanese dub of Frontiers is so disjointed and obviously not associated with what's animated in the cutscenes
>>587219461Because with a name like "Stinkerton" it's practically guaranteed she is a skunk. Whether she's related to the bros or not is yet to be seen, but it could make for some fun scenarios not seen since the likes of Mama Robotnik from AoStH.
>>587219862That has been the case since Colors, it's not a script problem, it's an animation problem. Kishimoto's script makes more sense for the characters
>>587219669I don't think Danny Barnes would do that. A woman being a ringleader is more unique, and she's likely already gonna be connected to Benefactor, the evil "man" already. So you need Benefactor to have a female goon, Mama Stinkerton will be that
Dr Robotnik shood
>>587219857All jackals look the same to me.
Tangle sent Whisper the video afterwards
>>587219928>skunks are the only animals that stinkWatch her be a fat pig
Why do Jackals get to have wig hair? They just look like dogs irl
>>587219658Because Rough and Tumble, after getting raped by Vanilla, still ended up doing evil for Clutch. Even right now, they're working for Eggman. They're villain jobbers. You aren't gonna see them be anything else....Unless they get turned into a gay couple on which IDW will immediately give them good boy status cause "We don't want to be bigots".
>>587220024He also made Enigma / Megani, right?
>>587220112>nubile>energetic>prehensile>retardedis tangle the perfect fuck buddy??
>>587220168Its not wig hair, it operates under Vanilla precedent
>>587217898Maria should wear less!
I really think it's nice that nothing can replace Maria in Shadow's heart
Would you cheat on Amy for raccoon cunny?
lovable mooks are the best villains
>>587219857> its a pun on PinkertonHow does the name Pinkerton even thematically relate to the story>>587219857>Her name isnt "the skunk"And Amy's name isn't "the Hedgehog".
>>587220205Yes
>>587220024Even if he didn't, he'd be voted down just like with what happened to Johnathan Hickman with Krakoa X-men. Females, gays, and trannies aren't allowed to be villains cause that's a sin to these weirdos.Makes every story incredibly predictable. Who's the villain? Oh it's the straight white male. That's isn't an exaggeration.
>>587220337But Infinite's hair isn't coming off of a stripe on his head. It's completely separate from his head.
>>587220352The photo Maria sent to Shadow right before she had back arching, bed breaking sex with Sonic
>>587220117Fuck, I hadn't even considered that. Now I'll be less interested in the arc if it turns out to be trueUnless we get Surge in a mud wrestling scene
>>587220441>amy isn't the hedgehogAmy doesn't have a daughter. Cream the Rabbit's mother is Vanilla the Rabbit. That's what we have to look to>how does the name pinkertonWe're gonna find out aren't we?
>>587218098Of the 21 characters you posted, around 1 out of every 5 game villains are female (not counting Rouge and Shadow, they were always hero characters), IDW basically matches this ratio.Also, interesting observation, most female villains in the games are not independent and are part of a group or an underling (i.e Carrottia, Zeena, Sage), Merlina is an exception.
>>587219764Fiona should wear more!
Claude generate 3 terabytes of images of Shadow fucking various mobian women in front of Maria as she cries and or ropes herself.
>>587219640Unless we get something like with what happened with Tangle and Whisper i.e. Sega forcing Ian Flynn to make a statement, this holds up.
Thoughts on Shadria?
>>587220625>Of the 21 characters you posted, around 1 out of every 5 game villains are female (not counting Rouge and Shadow, they were always hero characters), IDW basically matches this ratio.IDW doesn't have any female villains at all. They've got a shit ton of female heroines tho.
Maekawa updooted this...What does he mean by this?
>>587220604>>how does the name pinkerton>We're gonna find out aren't we?nigga you're the one who brought up the idea like it was definite, you could have at least said it was a reference to how pigs are pink or some shit
>>587220686>sega forcing ian flynn to make a statementThis never happened, not in relation to Tangle and Whisper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_(detective_agency)So, she's gonna be a new member of the Chaotix...
I have a message. Mister Yuji Naka San’s plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan. It spun in. There were no survivors.
>>587220808Enigma
female villains suck unless they have cool powers so there can be a slugfest that makes men mentally cum
>>587220769Very unfathomably basedBeautiful and kino and canon Maekawapilled and SA2core
>>587221000
>>587220769It's canon
Aren't you guys concerned that Jp fans want Flynn's script over Kishimoto's just because Kishimoto's phrasing sounds awkward? The English script of Frontiers was too detailed, filled with references, and OOC for all the major playable characters.
Shadria is astroturfed by one person
>>587221001if you go by the link, sure, but the Pinkertons weren't a good agency
Shadria is astroturfed by ShadowFuck off Shadow I know you're here
>>587221220>sega forced him to make this statementSee how you have no proof of this happening?
>>587221001>>587221257Well, she'll fit right in then
>>587221076>Stealing from museum run by evil male villain makes her a villainSure....
>>587221409Enigma isn't doing it because she's a social justice warrior. She's just a thief.
>>587221393The Chaotix ARE canonically good detectives
>>587221390This disclaimer didn't happen for no reason.
>>587221095Surge had this and then she got redeemed
>>587221480I'll believe this if and when it actually happens.
>>587221243Why are you saying this?
>>587221587See how you still aren't proving that Sega made him say that tweet? He says himself he's only tweeting to get ahead of being called a bigot.
>>587221773>He says himself he's only tweeting to get ahead of being called a bigot.Nice headcannon.
>>587221902sexy
>>587220590>spoilerthere's no way Barnes could be that based
There is a 0% chance of Whispangle ever being canon. It's just queerbait for the tumblr audience IDW amassed. Sega will never attempt to canonize it and the IDW writers will just keep perpetually teasing it out just like they lambasted Sonamy for doing
>>587220309cnc (cucked and canon)
Why do you faggots have so many crackships based off of characters literally standing next to eachother? You guys are literally doing that Bob's Burger scene. I do not understand this shit.The SilverxFiona and HoneyxTails shit is the most egregious example and these people unironically ship it with 100% seriousness. I know this website throws around the autism insult a lot but I swear you guys are actual sub-90 IQ autists.
>>587222130Evan's gonna break up Whisper and Tangle.
>>587221960You're a retard. Read your own schizoposts
>>587222220You were so close of quints of 2s.And the answer is almost always autism.
>>587220818>drawing permabeg boxes RODEO STYLE
>>587222220Calm down
>>587219110Tangle and Belle should wear less!
>>587221742>"i'm gonna subscribe to my headcanon until its disproven!"??
>>587222240Again?
>>587222220Some people like seeing two character designs fuck. It's not that deep.
>>587222358I hope.
>>587222220>HoneyxTailsIt's just porn. No one cares about Archie characterization anyways
CHILI'N AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SUND!Okay, Kumpel, hast du Lust, ein paar Penis-Blanket zu machen? Dann legen wir los – schneller als bei einem Ring-Sammel-Lauf! Los geht’s – WIR MÜSSEN SCHNELL SEIN! Hier ist die Schnellversion:WAS DU BRAUCHSTRinderhackfleisch (1 lb)Zwiebel, gewürfeltKidneybohnen + Tomaten (aus der Dose)Chilipulver & KreuzkümmelHot Dogs & BrötchenKäse (optional)SCHNELLE SCHRITTEDas Hackfleisch in einer Pfanne anbraten. Zwiebeln dazugeben und glasig dünsten.Bohnen, Tomaten und Gewürze dazugeben. 15 Minuten köcheln lassen.Die Hot Dogs garen. Die Brötchen auftoasten.Das Chili darauf löffeln. Käse, Gewürze – lass deiner Fantasie freien Lauf!SCHNELL ESSEN! Es wird schneller kalt, als du denkst! Sonics Lieblingsessen: Dick-Decke, auch bekannt als „Penis-Blanket“! Nächste Woche: Vagina-Stroganoff
>>587222220>SilverxFiona>HoneyxTailsThose are just joke ships, man. You notice how they don’t defend to the death over those ships like Shadamyfags and do?
>>587221095Merlina should wear less!
>>587222490Could have fooled me because the Tailspedos and that one fag who ships Silver and Fiona ask for more content of it everytime they get the chance. So yes they do take it seriously. Serious enough to even get mad about it if you point out how retarded it is.
The biggest plot hole in Sonic 3 is them saying G.U.N. had existed for 50 years when Sonic 2 made it very clear that the organization was founded after the events of Sonic 1.
>>587222720Fiona is part of the Silver harem
>>587222878been a long time since I've since this image
>>587222265Sure
>>587222463I've never seen porn. I just have the singleminded goal to have him model for me, and I Will win oneday....
>>587222720I don’t know what threads you’ve been reading but Sonazefags have radioactive AIDS.
>>587222878
>>587222963Yeah you aren't proving anything. Ian wishes he could make them lesbian. He can't
FUNKY ACTION
>>587222329You won't prove me wrong. I'm certain Enigma is just stealing to>Checks excuses people make for crimeFeed her family.
>>587222720Why are you having a melty about ships? You must be a shipper.
>>587223049And when IDW gets cancelled, he go mask off just like he did with Sally and Nicole.
>>587223187>Shitazefags making Shitverfags SssEETHE and vice versa.
Boy!
>These ships are stupid and based off less than nothing.>loldudeitsjustajoke!!!>Then why do you take it so seriously?>Uhhhhhhh you're so mad and malding! You're a shipper you have to be!Do I even need to say anything at this point? You're proving my point. Why do you take these dumb ships so seriously and then get mad when someone points out they're dumb as shit?
>>587223024the shipbaiting between Blaze and Sonic throw a wrench on the gears of the headcanons of several popular ships at the same time.This is why the more of a crackship a ship is the more chill it is, nobody fights against Vanilla/Vector for example.
>>587222983Honey should wear less!Honey with white paws like a cat... cute...
IIzuka said Silver and Fiona are lovers This isn't a meme. I am serious. If you disagree with me I will seethe.
>>587223370I'm still mad about this.
>>587223127Enigma is a an established thief in universe, and when she's by herself her own thoughts are about how she finally has a challenge. If what you described was added, it wouldn't at all be reflective of the original comic she debuts inAdditionally, Valdus ran his museum that way, but its not a guarantee that all museums in verse are doing that, Jewel also ran a museum, and she runs it normally.>>587223370He's already going mask off by saying he wants them to be lesbian and they can't be. There's nothing new to be revealed. You are retarded
>>587222240Tangle is a rapist. She doesn't take no for an answer
>>587223542Vanilla and Vector started with Sonic X and is well-known that it's a Sonic Team decision they themselves lean into
>>587223515I ship (me) and (You)>kisses you
This guy is unironically mad about being called out his stupid crackship is dumb. Whew.
You guys care way too much about what other people ship.
>>587223716Why be mad about the fucking freedom fighters lmao
>>587223743>If what you described was added, it wouldn't at all be reflective of the original comic she debuts inYou mean like what happened with Surge? This comic has more than one writer so things might change against the creator's will.
>>587220808And half of the female villains on that list are either misunderstood, not actually evil, or sympathetic. Sage is barely a villain.
All Archie characters are OOC
>>587223928Total shadamyfag death.
>>587224062not Drago!
>>587223841whisper was fattangle was a rapistlanolin beat womenaccept it, at the end of the day I only care about the stopping Eggman
>>587223953Ian ruined Surge before Evan didAlso, the multiple writers thing has literally never came up in an infighting way. They all cooperate and collaborate and talk to each other and they are way more "i dont wanna step on toes" beta-pilled than "fuck your vision im doing what i want" Penders-pilled
>>587219928What if she's a stink bug?
Why are you asking for female villains when you should be asking for better writers?
>>587224143Didn't Drago become OOC when he got roboarms?
>>587224459Because they're not above the culture war bullshit themselves>>587224435Insects are very rare but if Danny took the effort to push for it then he once again shines more than his peers
Man, am I glad my favorite IDW character is considered to be DEAD by the IDW staff.
Who the hell is Mama Stinkerton?
>>587224615Who? Dont say some dumb shit like Meringue the Rabbit
>>587224317>fuck your vision im doing what i wantEvan is doing that, she's just doing it passive-aggressively like most woman>>587224435> Another bugThe staff barely got Jewel approved
>>587221234>Aren't you guys concerned that Jp fans want Flynn's script over Kishimoto'sThey don't. While they don't like Kishimoto's script, they barely talk about Ian's.
>>587224484nah, Drago's an opportunist, he simply wants power and status and he's willing to (stupidly) trust a pretty bad dude giving him cool roboarms if he's promised a high position in the package as wellhe's short-sighted like that
>>587224661that's her deadname you know her as Lariat now
>>587220097Enigma is a GREEN Jackal tho, clearly a different race.
>>587224713>Evan is doing that, she's just doing it passive-aggressively like most womanI highly doubt that. It is more likely Ian is just a beta who rolls over to whatever ideas she proposes
>
Jackal? More like....jackoff.
>>587224691I can't. If they find out who this is, said character will be ruined. I'm happy knowing this character will not appear again.>How do you knowLast time I asked, a totally not an IDW staffer said the character was dead.
>>587224738Sounds like cope, but since you truly like this character I'll allow it.
>>587224930Its obviously Starline.
>>587222720ShadHope is also one of those. It's just Archiefags trying to mischaracterize Shadow.
>>587224738NTA I hope those roboarns are bolted tight. And apparently Eggman also rearranged his face as well while he was at it.
Amy.... doesn't love Sonic anymore. This is canon.
>>587222358REMINDER that this page was supposed to lead to a Tangle & Whisper sequel miniseries but it was immediately scrapped because Tangle was being roo emotionally manipulative.
>>587224930>>587225014I really hope you aren't talking about Mimic. Otherwise you're just talking about some background oc you goon to
>>587224794Dafuq? This can't be real, right?
>>587224691Damn bro I didn't think anyone else remembered her
>>587225113This isnt even what happened because Blackwood's family has been hated since before he was born
>>587225014Could also be Mimic.His appearance in the upcoming issues will obviously be illusions.
>>587224794I really really hope they never become heroes.
>>587225014>>587225097Not Mimic, not Starline, not someone I've "gooned to", not someone you'd know. And I'm hoping to keep it that way.
Archiecucks lied about Hope. This is literally their last interaction. They tried to make her seem like an important character.
You guys really believe these people think about what they're writing? I'm pretty sure Evan has just been spitballing shit as she goes along since she took up head writer.
>>587224794Well, would you look at that.https://www.ign.com/articles/idws-sonic-the-hedgehog-series-begins-the-road-to-100-fall-fanfest-2006
>>587223931I've been reading Archie Sonic since I was like 8.Seeing Sally and Nicole in a romantic relationship feels...wrong to me. It would be like if someone at Sega suddenly decided to push sontails for no reason.
>>587225127You're facing off against a true Super autist now>>587225105Read it yourselfhttps://www.ign.com/articles/idws-sonic-the-hedgehog-series-begins-the-road-to-100-fall-fanfest-2006
>>587225014I still like the "He's a Starline AI" theory.
>>587225245>not someone you'd know.Oh, so no-one from the comics.
>>587225315I think Evan is uniquely bad and not cut out for thisI think Ian Danny and Iasmin are people that do think about it
>>587225245Good for (You), vagueanon, now talk about something non-cryptic or fuck off
>>587224984I don't think so? Drago's always been on the goofy end of villainy, his motivations are concise and selfish after the mask came off he became the butt of the jokeI think it's cute>>587225029I'm still baffled by the change, but going by Thrash's story feralization was a prominent thing in Archie
>>587225395Yes, from the comics. Said character was in multiple issues until "believed dead".
>>587224730Someone on Twitter posted a Japanese mod that changes the dialogue, at least for that one Tails line at the start of the game that they always complain about. I'm not sure if they did that to the entire game, and if it's a rewrite or a translation of Ian's script. But that said, I've seen some Jp fans say that they should have just translated the English script officially. I saw one of the quotes insult Kishimoto for the rewrite.
>>587225245I don't know why you opened your mouth at all. This isn't a fun game. Whatever.
>>587225339Sally wasn't allowed to date Sonic anymore and Ian is the kind of guy who doesn't want her "tainted" by another man, so he made her gay with Nicole.
>>587225436Ian literally admitted that he had no plans or ideas for what he wanted to do with Surge after her mini arc was done. These people could not give less of a fuck.
>>587225574Ian isn't a tainted guy he had her with fucking Monkey KhanHe's just woke and wanted to lesbify her
>>587225503The original flat-chested Lanolin, who was killed and replaced Russian spy style.
>>587224794Not surprised by this. Remember how Lunar's colors were changed from blue to brown?
>>587225442>>587225547We were talking about characters who got ruined i.e. Surge. I'd be less vague about who I was talking about if I didn't think IDW staff hung around here...Hi Paps.
>>587225245Is it an OG Diamond Cutter, they are the only IDW characters that have a hard status of gone for good worm-food, never coming back outside of flashbacks, dead in this comic.
>>587224794>mfw>>587224821All rook the same
>>587225630Because he wasn't head writer anymore. He only got see the initial arc through because he pitched Surge and Kit before Issue 1 same as Starline. Obviously when Evan took over he let her have it while he focuses on other shit like the games
>>587225751Slinger and Smithy...
>>587225317>>587225360
>>587225462He's one of those "love to hate" types that most people either ignore his worst characteristics, goon to his looks, makes his behavior even worse, or all the above.That reminds me: how far did you get into that October challenge?
>>587225741Elder Scruffy and Ashe never got ruined and didn't die>>587225751Oh man this would be embarassing, anyone who actually likes these guys is always annoying
>>587225657She never actually settled with Monkey Khan. It was all supposed to lead to her getting back together with Sonic, which did happen before the Reboot started. Ian doesn't want her to be with another man besides Sonic PERMANENTLY.
>>587225339Sonails is hot
>>587225382AIs don't get tired and wheezy. There's definitely flesh under those robes >>587218717
The vagueposter is talking about one of the Diamond Cutters. Probably Slinger specifically.
>>587225765>TFW anon is being a racist
>>587225237Why?
Can we call Krack Croak instead
Thank you Sega
>>587226015Do we really need another sympathetic villain redemption arc in the world?
Do you guys hate Surge becoming good because it doesn't make sense for her story, or is it just because you want more villains, or a female animal person villain, and think you'd be "robbed" if she wasn't that?
>it's been an entire day I wonder if the blue anon is doing ok?
It has been almost 5 years since the last time anything in IDW actually happened or changed the status quo or focus.Think about that for a moment.Someone could have picked up this comic while they were in Middle School and be going to college now and literally nothing has happened in it throughout that entire time.
>>587226140I just think it's lame. She wasn't even a villain that long.
So while confirming the name change for this new character, I came across this one user theorizing that this whole arc is based on Pagan ritualismhttps://x.com/WolfieGirlie/status/2117701894088859689
>>587226140BothKit still being a villain while Surge isn't is pure retarded.
>>587224794>Mama Stinkerton was changed to LariatShe's gonna do this to Surge when they fight.
>>587226243>pagansugh
>>587226140It's because I want more female animal villains. I don't give a stinking crap these days though.It's a little weird how IDW lacks any of the big bestial monsters that were common as main villains, in Sonic 2000s games, and maybe more recently too.
>>587226192Give more Silviona sexoo
>>587226243A lariat is a wrestling move you stupid shit.
>>587226259Why? Isn't it interesting that he just wants her to be happy at the cost of anything else?
>>587226243
>>587226231The Restoration is gone nowSonic is no longer pushing for redemption as hardStarline is/was goneSurge is good nowI think you're incorrect. The comic certainly could be more dynamic even if things have changed somewhat.
>>587225870but his worst characteristics is where his story is! I love my boy...>how far did you get into that October challenge?I got as far day 22 technically, which for my first monthly challenge was pretty good I thinksince October is over, I'll try to finish to other prompts at my leisure before I jump into another one
>>587225905Ian is too woke to think like yiu
its like you faggots look for reasons to be mad about sonic
>>587226479None of those change the status quo or the direction of the comic at all.
>>587226479>The Restoration is gone nowThey aren't, though?
>>587226243>>587226396>>587226390>Double meanings are not a thingThat's what I get for trying to discuss nuance on a Sonic general
>>587226390lol we got some retarded pagan FOIDS itt
Wrestling is awesome. But I don't trust the IDW team to make it as awesome as WWE. And even if they did, I wouldn't want it to be as awesome as the real deal.
>>587226101>>587226140Surge's concept was inherently sympathetic>>587226259I agree with this though
>>587226243>>587226396>>587226664
>>587226483Ok, which one of those days was The Child? Because part of me wonders what he might've looked like as one.
>>587226664Anon, I appreciste your efforts. Thank you for informing me, I hope it ends up holding water
>They trans'd a character before they were even properly introduced in the comic.>After they already introduced a non-binary OCI wish I had a reaction image for this.
>>587226664>represents themes of love, transformation, emotional acceptance, and the balance of creation and destructionNow, how does that describe Blackwood?
>>587226714They literally already referenced Stone Cold Steve Austin in a tweet
>>587226391No, it's just retarded. Kit is supposed to be a defective Tails not a wannabe mastermind. If the logic was that he was gonna build evil machines for Surge to fight, then he's just a retarded Eggman or worst, new Starline.The more I think about the Surge and Kit dynamic, the dumber it gets. Could be their next appearance is better and establishes a decent status quo but until then it's:Surge is trying to be Sonic but fucks up.Kit acts like Tails but intentionally fucks up so Surge can look better.And innocent people are getting hurt due to this incompetence.I dread to think what an actual mini-series with this status quo would be.
>>587226943Lariat's gender hasn't been changed
>>587226243>>587226396>>587226664>>587226869
>>587224794Surge redemption soon.
>>587227032You don't know that, yet.
>wrestling arc>no El Gran Gordodoa
>>587227069Sonic's wife
>>587227097You don't know that it has
>>587226243>>587226396>>587226664>>587226869>>587227056
>>587227028Presumably Kit's perspective would change if she finds out.
https://x.com/WildWildTJS/status/2119596041662284194>Kit has longer fur on the back of his head
>>587226876it was day 25 on the list, I stopped just shortI might skip to that, I need to draw his kid design for him to use for later
>>587227116>SHARTnic
>>587227252I also dread that for multiple reasons. The worst possible outcome would be the IDW staff going mask off with the split having Surge be a good girl and Kit going full villain. That'd be the worst outcome.You know, Kit is more powerful than Surge. If they had him constantly saving her from her rash actions, it'd be more interesting. However, that dynamic would require Surge to be a villain so that ain't happening.
Why do archiefags join characterization discourse when it always ends the same way?
>>587227420>Day 26: Super DragoMay God help us all.>Drago: "OH, I WILL!"
>>587226970I don't like that. The IDW creative team aren't good at badass stuff like that.
>>587227675>The worst possible outcome would be the IDW staff going mask off with the split having Surge be a good girl and Kit going full villain. That'd be the worst outcome.I wouldn't like that either, but I think it's more likely that he just drops it and they have an emotional focus on how much he cares for her and promising to be good going forward. I think that would make more sense as payoff.
>>587227028>I dread to think what an actual mini-series with this status quo would beI'm wondering if that's why Ian didn't really intend to use them long-termSurge's design was just too appealing to let goIf it were up to me I would start their character arc from scratch and just have Surge and Kit end up being part-time heroes and constant troublemakers that butt heads with other characters. Surge being Diet Shadow mixed with Juri Han
>>587227231Okay, so can someone give me a short summary of what all this symbolism is supposed to mean ultimately?
>>587228105Sure here you go: nothing
>>587228150Archiebros? I thought she was a GUN agent?
>>587228274Ah, very on-brand for IDW.
>>587228105Evan is a white woman in her Wiccan phase. Standard stuff, really.
>>587228274Life is but a walking shadow
>>587228276Rouge is freelance
>>587228334Maybe it does mean something, I'm just guessing.
Is it a fake fan if a group of fans collectively choose to act as if the creators intent/actual events/aspects are noncanon, and override it with fanon?Did this ever happen in Sonic?
>>587227918>>587228036The thing about "Pursuit and Vengeance" stories and characters is that both driven by villains. It is the Villain's job to make the first move thus causing the Hero to spring into action.It doesn't really matter what the Hero's character is. All he needs is a reason to fight ("My parents were murdered thus I've vowed to fight crime") with everything else being unimportant. Surge wants to be famous and Kit wants to make Surge happy. That's all the personality they need.Anything else is retarded drama that detracts from the action.
>>587228276They don't play Sonic games, yet feel obligated to tell you about stuff that doesn't exist in them in order to prove their comic isn't off-brand.
>>587228036You can separate characters from their backstories. There is actually nothing wrong with the Speed Simulator screenshot.
>>587228365What did she mean by this?
Did Archie and Satam westies hijack the franchise and turned it into a different series for a generation of American fans?
>>587228560>You can separate characters from their backstoriesAsk any Shadow fan why that's not true
Ian Flynn steered the ship on Penders characters after he took lead writer position. Now it's Evans turn
>>587228743I was thinking of Shadow when I wrote that. It is true. Shadow works just fine in 2006 and Forces, without mentioning his backstory. His motivation is that he wants to protect the planet and will just do whatever it takes to do it. If you know his backstory then you know his backstory, but you don't need it to understand Forces. It's just background info.
>>587228560>You can separate characters from their backstoriesThen they're just a collection of actions with no purpose. You don't get a read on WHY a character does anything, where their boundaries are, etc. Even comedy driven works have characters with relevant backstories.
>>587228683More Archie than SatAMHonestly (from what I hear) SatAM isn't nearly the edgy show that Archiefags make it out to be
>>587228884So you hate Sonic? He doesn't have a backstory. At most he has some out of universe background info that the games never directly bring up.
Maybe Sonic doesn't have a backstory to prevent any malicious time travelers messing with his past?
>>587228365>Shadow styling his hair as an idle animationSuch a pretty boy at heart.
>>587229018Sonic is the exception--he's the static character that changes others. A force of nature, if you will.One could say he's like madeyalook
>>587229254There being exceptions just means you were wrong.
Sonic games for this feel?
Perfect charactersDr. Eggman: Wants to take over Za WorlduSonic the Hedgehog: Sees an evil scientist capturing animals and decides to be racist against eggs for the rest of his life.
So Tails' stories in the Adventure games are bad because they don't bring up that he was bullied? Unless you count SA1 promotional material that is never seen in game, but that still leaves SA2 open.
I enjoy silently reading these convos.>>587227406Yeah, that's something everyone notices when you pay attention to his looks like Tomii does.
Funny how Sega bought Atlus, a company known for writing great stories, and never thought to use any of their writers to write Sonic Frontiers.Instead, they jobbed it out to Ian Flynn who has next to no writing accolades under his belt.
>>587229687The fans were asking for Ian at the time
What is Fiona's personality? Penders, Bollars, and Ian have completely different takes.
>>587229687Sonic Team isn't Sega.
>>587228683I think Sonic may have been licensed out too early. Combine that with other factors like a lack of a coherent vision and a false sense of how popular a pack-in game actually was vs what was on tv. Wasn't Sonic only supposed to be a mascot for a console mid-life relaunch that ended up enduring by accident despite a bunch of weird circumstances?
>>587229748ThisBtw the fans were also asking for Sonic 4 and Sonic Colors and Classic Sonic to be made into a separate series
>>587229825I'm very interested in this, as well
>>587229825>>587229924She's tripolar.
>>587229687>>587229835Maybe they could collaborate. From what I understand Atlus is very busy with their own projects though
>>587230015I guess this is canon
>>587228927Most Archiefags haven't seen SatAM. They just assume it's just lile their comic, but animated.
>>587229618>>587229993It's like all the fanbase energy for this little water fox got concentrated into this one random Japanese fanartist
>>587230108He has other fans, she's just the best
>>587230068Thats the entire fandom .The only person here who knew that Satam characters are OOC in Archie is Violet but no one listens to her.
>>5872302091. Why would I listen to a woman?2.
>>587230067There’s Fi’, ‘iona and (me). We are trisexual. We only fuck ourselves.
>>587229414colors ultimate, never forget when sonic could turn into a fish
>>587229687Would Atlus even want to touch Sonic?
>>587230380Well, then maybe we should listen to him, I guess.
>>587230108She's got a fascination with cyborgs, robots and insects and cute characters.
>>587230408Nigga the MUSOU devs don't even want to touch Sonic. What is there to entice anyone at Atlus to write for Sonic?
>>587225053>Slop from the lore team
>>587230719I want to sexo Tomii.
I am still OOC
>>587230978Well, get IC. you fuckin goofball
>>587229825I think Bollers and Penders Fiona was relatively consistent. It's portrayal was when she took a drastic turn.
do archie fans like ian?
>>587231194>Half-lidUh oh!
>>587231259I have no strong opinion on him either way
>>587231259They unironically see him as a god.
>>587231259>>587231323I have mixed feelings on his writing ability, but I think he was a great match for the skills Archie benefited from
IDW is perfectly fine whenever the writer is someone other than Evan or Ian
>>587207090>shortsDeserved. Bitch.
>>587229993Aren't they missing the comics that introduced Kit
If you 100% complete Sonic Chronicles you will likely never see a POW move ever again. Your characters will be too strong and fast and KO every enemy before a battle starts until the final boss.
>>587227675>You know, Kit is more powerful than Surge.No he isn't.
>>587228884A backstory is only necessary for debut. You don't Knuckles to mention the echidnas and Chaos every time you want him to guard his Emerald in a story
>>587232060
That's Rouge talking
>Sonic Colors Remastered>1 for 1 remake/port of a fan favorite game that along with Generations revitalized the series>Gets absolutely shat on and rated badly because of a few hiccups and glitches that were patched out in a week and were mostly completely ignorable.>OOT Remake>Not even a 1 for 1 remake of one of the most popular games of all time>Completely fucked up art style where Link is somehow more feminine looking than Zelda or the Guredo.>literally removed features and gameplay mechanics>Glitches out the ass that are so bad that the only other comparison most people can think of is Sonic Boom or 06.>Endless praises. 10/10 game. Greatest thing since bread. Nintendo is a gift from God.I'm so sick and tired of the bullshit double standard normies have with this franchise. It's so fucking retarded like holy shit I want to kill some of these people. Make it make sense.
>>587232406Well, the answer is simple, Sonic not good.
>>587232404Forgot pic
CHA-CHOYA-CHOYA
>>587231857Would you believe me if I say she imports them and reads them?
>>587232375Cool moment. Kit is still support. He's not stronger than her.
>>587232406Why would you compare a remaster to a remakeAlso Colors Ultimate is a wild game to defend regardless
Blackwood and/or Benefactor would fucking mindrape Surge and Kit. They better remember this when the final battles happen
>>587232758he supports because his purpose is to be support. he COULD rock shit himself. but that wouldnt be supporting surge. so he doesn't
>>587232743
>>587232824Because it's not fair that Nintendo gets away with it but Sonic can't have a few hiccups
>>587232758He is. He's just faking it so Surge doesn't get mad at him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaX4kzg7Hqw>>587231857And if you're wondering how they know about them. They have the internet like we do and they're humans, we're curious by nature. They can even read with basic translating tools / apps even if they can't read english.Here's another Japanese artist.https://x.com/MOTITAmotimoti3
>>587232824I was originally going to compare it with Sonic Boom but realized Colors Ultimate would be a better comparison.I still think Boom and Colors Ultimate deserved a lot of the shit that they were given but holy shit Nintendo can literally release a fucking rape of my childhood that is barely put together and people literally line up to eat the shit directly from Nintendo's asshole and then have the audacity to call anyone who isn't singing their praises to be a shitposter or contrarian. It makes my fucking blood boil. Its so retarded.
>>587232972This is why I keep saying that SOA's colonization of the franchise is Takashi Iizuka and Eitaro Toyoda's fault. They're allowing to happen even though they're in constant communication with the western writers and the lore team. This explains why the Sonic Channel bios got rid of the ages and why the English scripts are so out of character and different from the Japanese ones
>>587232752
>>587232972Why bring up Eggman Nega in the post? Eggman Nega never even died. It's always just been Ian pushing a headcanon because he hates him
Today on/sthg/: anons discover that non-english speakers can import english media
>>587233085>>587233347When did Nintendo put out Sonic 06 or Rise of Lyric?
>>587233567Last I saw, Eggman Nega was left to die in the ifrit dimension. Unless the Rival games are non-canon, he ded.
So in conclusion, SOJ and everyone in ST is 100% aware that people on the west side are changing the characters and lore completely and they do not give a fuck.
>>587232973Nobody is dying Kit's own strength. It's just wrong to say he's stronger than Surge>>587233113No he isn't. He isn't designed that way. You keep posting pages that also don't even support what you're saying. In that first page it happens after Kit literally distracts an already cocky Surge, otherwise she would've dealt with that herself. Picking up an iron ball to throw it back at the mech doesn't mean he is more powerful than her.Likewise in this page, all that's displayed is Kit being more cunning than her. Which is what he is designed to do, be analytical to support her brashness. They are still following their coded programmed personalities, down to the replacement part
>>587233629Pokemon X/YIn fact almost every Pokemon game after X and Y.
>>587233717Duh? Did you really think these people just... don't talk to each other? Did you really think there was some insidious "us v them"?
>>587233709Left to die is not dead. Eggman was left in White Space. Then both Lost World and Mania happen. There is no concrete proof Eggman Nega died in Rivals 2. It is a headcanon assumption.
> yfw we're not going to meet their mom>>587232752Yes
>>587233853What a retarded comparison
>>587233889So there's no canon and JP purists are schizos?
>>587233965I dont know why anyone wanted this to begin with. To do the same gag they did with Vanilla but blood related? To show some sadsack story of "we became bad guys cuz of abuse/our villainous mom?" No thanks
>>587233717It sounds cruel but it's true. Takashi Iizuka and Eitaro Toyoda have a lot of power within Sonic Team. They supervise the writing, both the Japanese and English sides. Nothing gets past them without their review and approval. They have the ability to push back on Ian and the lore team's schemes but they don't. What was the point of Iizuka saving the franchise through the movies if he's not even going to prevent SOA from changing and ruining the lore and the characters? Why even bother?
>>587233992I know you're not about to sit here and tell me any of those games are good and not a gigantic mess of glitches that makes the games barely playable. You cannot be serious.
>>587233320>picKinky
>>587234126Modern Pokemon isnt Rise of Lyric level
>>587233709>Unless the Rival games are non-canonI mean, they were never released in Japan...Rivals 1+2 remake with Surge and Kit?
>>587234191Tomati clearly ships them
Pokemon never actually released a bad game, they just never release games that hit the standard of the most successful franchise on earth. Sonic is not the same.
>>587234308>rivals remake shoving in characters that have no business being there?No
>>587234290X/Y certainly was. Sun and Moon were too. In fact I'd say X and Y were 06 tier.
>>587234337Pokemon games are worsre
>>587233380>>587233717>>587234068Wasn't there a rumor about the Japanese devs getting ultra-shitfaced at the Club Chaos event? Would explain a lot
I had an idea for a Sonic collection where you get basically the whole series, but every game replaces Sonic (and Tails?) sprite or model with Surge (and Kit?), like Sonic 1-2-3K-CD-Mania-Superstars SA1-SA2-Forces etc, and the whole canon narrative of it is that Dr. Starline is putting Surge (and Kit) in a simulation to live Sonic (and Tails') life to see how to be them and replace them
>Pokemon never actually released a bad gameThere's no way you types this sentence without smiling knowing how bullshit that statement is.
>>587234308Sonic Forces Speed Battle is unironically the successor to the Rivals games.
>>587232957>Benefactor would fucking mindrape Surge and KitI half-expect that to happen at the tail end of their wrestling arc. He's been watching them all this time.Either that, or Kit willingly submits to complete his descent into villainy.
>>587234383>In fact I'd say X and Y were 06 tierNo, that would be Sword and Shield, maybe Scarlet and Violetboth, really
>>587234602Kit doesn't have a descent into villainy. He just lives to support Surge. He wouldn't become villainous in any way that would put him at odds with Surge
>>587234578Well, if you ignore the perspective shift>>587234535That sounds tedious as fuck to play through
>>587234337the games they release are fine in the sense that you can complete them largely unhindered from start to finish, and I say this as someone who bought Scarlet at launchwhere the conversation lies on quality, for me, is usually in the artistic design (visual/narrative/etc) and some gameplay choices, I think BDSP is one of the worst games they've released in that aspect
>>587234607Idk man. Literally causing your game to crash because the 3DS freaks out when it has to load a Parasect with over 20k polygons is pretty fucked.
>>587234607Sword and Shield gets way too much shit. That game's fucking fine. Scarlet/Violet as a "maybe" tells me you never played either one.
>>587233997Always have been
>>587234602>>587234690There is one showcase of him willingly fighting Surge.Though the fact that you have to have already beaten this boss fight and unlock JUST to start doing Kit's challenges to unlock him, almost rule this out as simply being just an extra piece of fluff dialogue.
>Sword and Shield gets way too much shitGo back to /vp/ and stay there you roach.
>>587234916Stuff it, Dexitfag.
>>587234813SwSh's biggest sin is being boring, and that's pretty damning for a video game
>>587234915I like that they went out of their way to show this is him not wanting to do this. A far cry from plotting against her or something
>>587234714Its just the Sonic series with an extra skin. A collection with a twist. You dont have to go through all of it
>>587234470Yes there was
>>587234750I've played every 3DS game sans USUM and have never had that happen>>587234813Meanwhile, SV was a buggy ass mess that clearly wasn't optimized for the console it was made for
what in fucks cunt are you retards arguing about now
>>587235307That Chip and Dark Gaia are the real ultimate lifeforms due to their immortality + Chaos Emerald affinity
>>587235092I saw a post once mention that he seemingly, without being prompted, offered to help clean up the damage Surge caused.Deep down, he's not that evil to leave it destroyed and torn.
>>587235092I’m glad the fags’ cry of Kit being a manipulator stopped. That was annoying.
>>587234690No, but I feel like Kit could be tempted to do mystery man's bidding with the endgoal of helping Surge. For example:>"She'll be the hero of the new world we create together. And you'll be by her side always."etc.
>>587235450This is just because cleanup is something unglorious he can do that helps Surge inadvertently. He has no character beyond Surge support
>>587235476The best way to write this would be him having a mental schism between the two choices
>>587235471Yeah, He's no Tangle
Why don't you agree with Sonurge?
>>587235717Duo…
>>587234535>replaces Sonic (and Tails?) sprite or model with Surge (and Kit?)Someone is doing that with Adventure
>>587235196>Meanwhile, SV was a buggy ass mess that clearly wasn't optimized for the console it was made forThat's a really nice way to say "barely worked." SV wishes it was half as functional as 06 was when it came out.
The wind is a virgin
why do people say that no other sonic character can beat sonic if there's been many sonic games where you can play as someone else and win against or beat sonic?
>>587235917false, i just got done cumming inside of him for the fourth time today.
>>587236126Because the canonical story of what happened rarely results in "Sonic actually truely plainly lost"
why do people say that no other sonic character can beat off sonic if there's been many sonic h-games where you can play as someone else and win against or beat off sonic?
>>587236259Gamma?
Honey and Tails had sex in the official Japanese manual for Sonic Jam
>>587236283>first I’m gonna beat you up then I’m gonna beat you off
Everything? Everything
Post Vector
>>587229825Archie characters require a game character to be OOC. They have no personality
>>587234290>>587234383No Sonic game has ever gotten as bad as Pokémon.
>>587236610
>>587236475> Surge when threatening Sonic
>>587235865Wow show me
>>587236305Has never beaten Sonic? Sonic had him on the ropes and was going to finish him if not for Amy's intervention
>>587234383Rise of Lyric doesn't even have an interesting premise or anything fun at a conceptual level.
>>587236506>stupidfox
>>587236649No Sonic game has ever gotten as good as Pokemon. Thats why it seems like Pokemon "fell harder"
Surge's pussy itches when fighting Sonic
>>587236702https://x.com/SurgeAdventure
>>587229924The annoying thing about Fiona is that her character arc was clearly unfinished, but I'll try to work with what Ian "Yurib8" Flynn left us with......She just likes the bad boys.That's it. She had no real agency and was going through the motions. She lived life on autopilot for others, then one day thought, 'y'know what? I don't have to put up with this. I've tried and I'm tired, the freedom foolers are mostly ineffectual, there's a mutant fox kid trying to bone me, at the end of the day we all just wanna bone and be left alone to do so. Might as well have fun while we're at it.' There wasn't much deeper thought on it at the time other than 'Scourge seems exciting.' She became his ride-or-die for a change of pace, to break up the monotony. And, by most accounts, she ended up happier with the mask off, and was able to be herself around him. Maybe a part of the hedgehog changed too. MAYBE...I'm pretty sure this was headed to either Fiona realizing she was an idiot and going her own way to find herself or something involving the Auto Automaton, but that's moot.
>find an artist who draws Rouge in multiple accidental nudity scenariosim cumm
Shadow and Maria took naked baths together
>>587236805You wish lmao
>>587236921Whatever. At least we still have Zooey
>>587236921Ian just abruptly made her a villain because she was a threat to Sonally and he's a shipperfagging child
>>587233717>>587234068>>587234470Iizuka is the leader of gaming's most infamous mascot franchise working under a company that's only ever seen this series as a quick buck and continues to treat him and his staff like shit, dealt with the complete shitstorm of Heroes and 06's development after Naka fucking bailed and that's not even getting into how humilating everything about the meta era was. He's probably fucking ECSTATIC that he finally gets to kick back and more than happy to handover the reins to people that claim to like the fucking series for once, 2000s characterization be damned
>>587237062>Naka bailedHow about "Naka stopped putting up with Sega's bullshit and wasn't gonna be a part of the farce any longer"?
>>587237062>people that claim to like the fucking series for once'Claiming to' is one thing....
>>587236921was there ever anything said about making a "real" Fiona and the motivations behind it?
>>587237028and perci
I am machine, I never sleepUntil I fix what's brokenI am machine, a part of meWishes I could just feel something
>>587237340Built for Tails
>>587237340And Stacy
>>587237361Not knowing how Metal feels about having two sisters, one of which is considered Eggman's apex creation, irks me. I know he's inhibited after Heroes but I'd still like to know what code he's running underneath the lockout protocol.
I respect the real Amy Rose
>>587237580Bestie
>>587237491>Not knowing how Metal feels about having two sistersHe didn't need to speak to show us how he feels about Belle
Amy shits in the bestie box while Sonic and Surge mate like animals
>>587237491I think he won't care about Sage as long as she won't get in his way. He cares about Sonic, not Eggman Empire politics. Based on Crossworlds, it seems Sage conveys that he would usually listen to herHe has no reason to see Belle as anything but an enemy
>>587237874Okay, well, that's how we all feel about Belle.
>>587237580Sonamybesties are delusional
>>587237580Sonic will never slow down for Amyn
>>587236232Eggman…
>>587237580Amy moved on. She realized the wind will never settle for her.
>>587237580Stupid bestie
>>587238286bros... i wanna ride the lightning...
Surge is excited for her wedding with Sonic!
>I respect the real Amy Rose>instantly 5 repliesthe fuck is wrong with you?
You have to stop
Sonic loves adventure. Surge symbolizes adventures for Sonic.
>>587237580The new Amy is for Shadow now. The real Amy is finally dead.
>>587237580Sonic is for Surge
>>587237580Haven't you seen the news retard, Amy got bored of Sonic.
>>587237580In the canon games, Sonic is interested in Surge
>>587237361Based TDG enjoyerThe "I don't belong here, not in this atmosphere" part of Human Race always makes think of Shadow falling to his "death"And Animal I have become of DSS
>>587237580Not even Tails believes her bullshit
>>587235717if shadow and surge ever meet then i bet they’ll end up a bigger pairing than sonurge
>>587239121Shadow is for Maria
>>587239203Maria is 12 years old
>>587238958I thought people linked Animal I Have Become with Werehog but I guess it pales in comparison to Monster?
>>587239257Old enough for me
When did Sonurge become more popular than Sonamy?
Borg>>587235524>This is just because cleanup is something unglorious he can do that helps Surge inadvertently.Mmm, that is a good point to consider.
>>587239364When Duofag samefagged
>>587239326Both songs are good for both forms
>>587239480Who remembers Monster I Have Become
>>587239364One part sexual tension, another part projection
>>587239590this looks like rape
:D
>>587239660
>>587239364Never lol
>>587239814Bestie, saying "lol" doesn't hide your seething
>>587239883Most people don't even know who Surge is lmao
>>587239660wish she would rape me...
>>587239860lol
>>587239785May I see it?
>>587240162>>587240162>>587240162
>>587225872>>587225847>>587225664>>587225751None of those characters were correct. I'm glad my IDW favorite character is so overlooked.
>>587239558I've been listening to it since the MS post
>>587240269I was just posting Slinger and Smithy because I like themyour need to be vague just tells me that it's safer to assume this character either doesn't exist or you'll simply swap between them, so it's easier not to play the guessing game
>>587236259sonic adventure 2?
>>587240426No there is a correct answer. No the correct answer hasn't changed.It's telling that nobody gives a shit about my favorite character. So much so, that an IDW writer thought this character was dead when brought up. Said writer was corrected about that but it shows how little shit is given.
>>587217064Modern Knuckles knows ancient texts and can translate ruins.Classic Knuckles famously can barely understand the legend of the mural of his own people.Hop off my GOAT, fuckwit.
>>587239987i'm completely serious about this btw, she is so fucking hot
>>587218397Based Rooj
>>587218674But enough about Triple Trouble
>>587228150This section is so interesting. We would NEVER get this kind of level design in Boostgames.
>>587217064>>587244438They are the same character.>>587217504Sonic Team never rebooted the series.
>>587244484very kissable lady
>>587239257So is amy
