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I unironically enjoy playing buffslut Growler
>>587350872It is now a somewhat respectable role after the nerfs.
>>587350409>>587350481Unfortunately I am a deluxe let and I'm hesitant to throw money at battle passes considering the current state of ACO.But if this Eagle experiment works out I'll definitely consider it
>>587350913I don't think that a suicidal dive into their territory is worth it unless you can guarantee a kill on their attacker. Otherwise you're just feeding and keeping your team down a man. The best plane for that tactic probably the Morgan after you get good with the TLS because nothing is surviving someone good with the TLS.
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>>587348928You can do some pretty nutty shots with the SAAM. For example, check out this clip. The NPC is notching me at ~1.4km away when I see him. That's too close and too shit of an angle for most missiles to hit. But with the SAAM I can just dumbfire it behind him a bit, wait a moment, and then lock him up after a delay.
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>>587351490>>587348928I also forgot about Zapland. Holy fuck can you run away with the match on zapland. Do a mix of multi-role ground pounding and air combat in phase one, but then break away from the pack a bit once phase 2 starts getting close to a finish and make a beeline towards the airfield on the map. The Berkut's bombs can absolutely obliterate the airfield, and 99% of players just blindly fight the phases one phase at a time, so you can probably get a good 4-6 bombs off before anyone else reaches the airfield.For my arms parts I've been running both bomb radius parts, and then MSL speed 2. I'm not entirely sold on MSL speed 2. I just have the mindset that I gnerally either had a good angle shot or a bad angle shot. If I had a good shot, then the air targets either defend with a turn or flares or they don't. If they take defensive action, then the missiles miss. +Speed gives them less time to wake up and take defensive action.Weapon layout is MSL>SAAM>BMB. That way, during ground attack, I can quickly swap back to MSL to finish off something extra after dropping the bombs.
>>587350771The landing fakeout there was really fun. I don't think they've done that before
>>587351046Well if thats the case what can I do (aircraft, weapons, parts or whatever) to win turnfights or avoid them entirely.
>>587352194If you're not confident in your abilities, then just stick with your team but make a point of locking onto an enemy whenever they approach you. I don't know if you played the training to learn about the focus bonus, but the little tic-marks that show that multiple players have locked onto the same target actually boosts the performance of missiles launched against that target. It stacks a LOT. It's actually the meta for knowers. Everybody focus target one enemy player down at a time. The focus boosts overwhelm them fast.
Now to do every level with Growler/Prowler/Barricader wee
>>587352329Ill try but ive never had a group coordinate like that before even with the callouts.
>>587352771The up button on your D-pad calls out the target. Sometimes that wakes people up.
>watching my friend play AC8>when GR absorbing Enso got mentioned at the end he commented how he didn't like the sound of that>make him play AC3 afterwardshe just got done with Rena's route and I'm making him play Fiona and Cynthia's routes last. am I a bad friend for the amount of emotional damage I'm about to inflict on him since AC8 really fucked with him a bit?
>>587353145No, but if you immediately tell him about how the UGSF timeline goes and GR and Neucom spend a millennia having a "who can be the biggest retard" cold war in space you might be.
FUCK GENERAL RESOURCEALL MY NIGGAS HATE GENERAL RESOURCEyou'd be surprised to learn they're not that horrible. Still corrupt autocratic cronies. Neucom, however...
>>587353446Warning: this poster is heavily invested and has many GR stocks, they are a liar and not to be trusted.Source: me, I have no Neucom stock please trust me, I'm very trustworthy, here a picture of me to prove it (I was world champion)
While replaying the campaign, I found some funny thingsIn mission 10: Over the Rainband,if you try to destroy the laser airships ahead of time (at coordinates D5.5, E5, E4.5, F4.5, F6),it turns out there's extra ones that will laser insteadIn the missions with a land battleship getting bunker busted (17 and 19),you can blindly destroy the post-bunker-buster targets ahead of time. And get dialogue for it!For Podarges, I remember reading here before that you could instakill them by shooting their cargo from the back until it falls off, then shooting the exposed cargo bay- but actually you can just shoot the Podarge directly from any other angle, and the cargo is just an easily avoidable meat shieldOr that you should aim for their cockpits- but it seems having a few seconds of direct gunfire hit the Podarge at all is what kills itThe HSCA in missions 22 gets rekt by wingmen MPBM spam. It's hilariousAnd less related, TLS being a 6000 meter hitscan lightsaber is also hilarious, as the AI is totally not balanced around it and will happily joust into itTry it on stationary targets too, like mission 16 if you're cheating with the map
>>587353693People! You wouldn't listen to a guy named "SATAN" WOULD YOU?!
>>587353765I think TLS range is closer to 6800m, but I don't have proof on hand.>>587352831There's also dpad down twice to request help. Strangely I've had some attackers use the regular radio commands to ask for help, which isn't helpful because I have no idea where on the map they are beyond vaguely checking where the ground targets are located.
>>587353991>Strangely I've had some attackers use the regular radio commands to ask for help,Because if you dig around looking for quick-radio commands, then you get sent to those useless messages. I don't think it tells the player about the UP/DOWN pings anywhere in the tutorials or control settings.
>>587353887Number one: That's terrorNumber two: I have a very cute rabbit. Here's a picture.
>>587354059There's a tutorial on it, along with one for focus targeting, but they're not compulsory so few players do them. At least the campaign tutorials give you 1k MRP to entice new players.
>>587354093Greedy little fuck
What sex position would you go for with Kate?
>>587354456all of them
>>587354456Something involving a plane, for sure.
>>587354456The Guided Penetration Bomb
>>587354456Massive ordnance penetrator
Morgan's SP.W order should've been TLS / MPBM / ECM to match Pixy's boss phase order, like Infinity and 7 did..and to stop every deluxe nugget from shitting flashbangs everywhere
>>587354456[Railgun Warning]
>>587355469They're handing out 10 tickets per day. You'd have to cope with the neon regardless at this point.
>>587355584The nuggets don't know that you can limit break without first bumping your head into the previous level cap.>>587355469Put burst missile as the level 20 limit break. Just because fuck them.
>morgans
>>587355469You really wanted the first week to be cancerous TLS spam?
>>587354456Better question https://poal.me/unanz2
>>587356423TLS is fun. Every plane should have TLS. Honest with no missile tracking bullshitAnd the nuggets would barely handle using it, even against stationary targets, and give up on the Morgan sooner
>>587356663You're basically asking what kinks /aceg/ anons are into.
>>587356423Nugget TLS spam is completely harmless. They can't hit shit.
I for one enjoy the MPBM flasgbangs, keeps things exiting
I for one enjoy Nuggets, keeps emergency sorties challenging.
>>587357243I'm personally looking forward to when the bullshit difficulty starts. High difficulty infinity was the good shit.
>>587357463Lasers, barriers and ecm out the ass?
>>587357593Don't forget the multitude of things you can't even damage before everything else is dead, even the AA guns. I know we have a bit of it now, but we don't have to kill every AA gun to hit chandelier core yet.
>>587351834One time I had a game where two Fullbacks actually were competent enough to already have bombs in the air as the second phase started. Half the base vanished a second after it spawned. I was slightly annoyed since I was slower than them but I was also impressed.Firkin would be so good if it had the UGB ability. Imagine how good it'd be with the UGB ability. Holy shit it'd be good.
>>587358012>Firkin would be so good if it had the UGB ability. Imagine how good it'd be with the UGB ability. Holy shit it'd be good.Are there any hopes for us getting a Su-47 reskin? I know Tewey was shown as flying an Su-47 in the past. Do we know what Tasha's mom flew? Was their duel a mirror match?
>>587358237Su-47 -GLT-Trust the plan.
>>587355469I really dont see why people hate the morgans, its kind of a noob trap to use it beyond a certain point unless you want to use it as a jammer plane or go all in with the TLS. You only get a handful of the burst missiles so its a shit attacker because their going to blow their load by the halfway point of a mission while a nugget in a mirage let alone a fullback or strike eagle are going to be carpet bombing the whole map. Its outranged by basically everything so there really isnt a danger of it stealing your aa kills so the only way its a threat is in warfare where somebody launches one as a third party in a dog fight, but even then you can do basically the same thing with a couple SASMs.
>>587358237we literally just had the same shit in the previous thread, stop the berkutshill already
>>587358342>I really dont see why people hate the morgans,Because of two extremes:1: In PvP, the TLS is overpowered in the hands of players who overcome the skill floor of pointing the laser at planes.2: Noobs spamming burst missiles at super weapons while you're busy trying to chew through their HP with machineguns. The blinding flash, screen shake, and stability fuckery is obnoxious when you're trying to maintain a bead on the important targets.
>>587358512>stability fuckerywhat are you talking about?
>>587358772I can't prove it, but I'm pretty sure that burst missiles fuck with your stall speed and stability in addition to shaking your screen and flashbanging you.
>>587357593Excalibur?
>>587352060Assault Horizon had one during the last Africa mission, bunch of assholes come screaming up right through your landing corridor.
I love helios missles. I want to have to pay attention to the map and maneuver in suboptimal ways. I hope the future emergency sorties get more helios missles.
>>587354093
>>587359698Sucks how they only show up at the very start of Arsenal Bird so they're pretty pointless. Of course I can dodge the missile when I'm doing nothing else.Aigaion knew how to spam nimbus missiles as it was being attacked, why doesn't Arsenal Bird? Arsenal Bird you suck.
>>587360608Also the ones in the Arsebird sortie can just be flown under/over.
>>587360575Very cute, thank you.
>>587354456Slow and gentle missionary because under all those layers of stoicism, badassery and bravado there's just a girl yearning to be held and loved
>mig-29 doesn't carry SAAM in ac8gay gay gay gay gay
>>587361797The fulcrum is dogshit in 8, but I still love her as much as a man can.
>>587362474I just hope the inevitable MiG-35 indubitably a paypig plane will be betteralso, semi-related - were MiG-29 skins available in the store rotation in AC0 already? I wanna pick up the sotoan livery
>>587362532The FCU/sotoan livery was unfortunately in the last batch of rotating skins, you missed it by a week
>>587362901that fucking sucksI gave up on AC0 and only came back for the increased bp drops
Is the X40 railgun good for ladons or is the damage too pinpoint?
>>587362532>indubitably a paypig planeare you implying any planes added in the future will be free lmao
>>587363461i know hope exists because i am hopeful
>>587363461Some probably will, they'll probably be unlocked by either doing enough shit in an event or a percent drop in an event sortie.
>>587364271>abysmal dogshit craft with an ugly skin baked ini LOVE japan mmo !!!!
>>587363976Each plane will be a minimum $10 battlepass guaranteed! Enjoy anon!
>>587364317
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Is TLS good in AC8? I remember it being giga OP in Zero
>>587364271>tied to online cancerModern gaming is fucking disgusting.
>>587364661It's a "live service" now. They'll also probably be for sale after the unlock period.
>>587364632It's not touch of death like 5/Zero, but you can take out key targets from 6~7 km away if you know how to aim it properly. Works better in PvP than PvE or campaign, but it's still useful.
>>587364632If you can aim with it as said its ridiculously strong. I managed to wipe out an entire flight of Shadows in mission 20 with a single burst but where it shines is sniping people online.
>>587364632It's massively nerfed but it's still good as long as you can aim.Most people can't aim.
>>587364539Fighting Land Battleship does feel like fighting a Kaiju
>>587365042i've been saying that since day 3even the soundtrack is gojira coded
It's actually not a lot of ground-based super weappns (that aren't installations) in AC now that I think about it, most of em are aerial or naval.
>>587365042>>587365078>A literal kaiju is still less monstrous than this mofo
>>587365250an AC:I high difficulty megalith would be really cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgwPvqg5ncI
>>587365274Not sure I would describe him as a monster. He did make sure his entire crew got to experience what it was like to own an air fryer?
I bet working on a carrier is cool as balls
>>587367142Seeing what happened to the Ford in Iran, it's also stressful as fuck.
>>587367668How does a laundry catch fire?
There is nothing weird about their relationship at all, you guys just watch a lot of porn.
>>587367843Ships love to catch fire anywhere for whatever reason.
>>587367930siblingcest is only nice when it's sister x sister anyway
>>587367945Just like Russian refineries
>>587367843There's a reason why you must clear out your lint filters.
>>587367142>>587367668Working seven days a week for months for shit pay in shit living conditions with no ability to ever leave your place of work probably gets old pretty fast. And that's without doing it in a place where there's a theoretical possibility you might get killed. I know Iran didn't manage it but they did manage to kill some Americans in bases nearby so the people on the ship must have at least considered it a little.
>>587368047Yeah you put a guy in there and suddenly it's complicated shit you gotta analyze
>>587369363Yeah dude but planes.
>>587369363Could be worse. Could be on a submarine.
>>587370997But in a sub you get to be unda da see
>>587371234and raise Osean capitals to the ground!
>>587370997Yeah. And your sub could fail and get stuck on the ocean floor for a couple years.
>>587371309*raze>>587371332Also known as Tuesday in Russia.
I can't fucking do it. Cape Rainy was 10 times easier than this
>>587371593you can restart from checkpoint if you anticipate that you're about to run into one of the radar bubbles
>grinding out EW sorties in Online for the extra gold blueprints>Trying out 2AAM for variety... Holy shit these are barely better than standard missiles or HCAA. I think I'm just going to retire my Growler and write off the 10 gold blueprints I've put into it so far.
>>587373362Growler ECM is decent but yeah AAM in general is useless especially 2AAM.
>guy makes a scramble party>waits till it fills>then leaves and repeats the proccessI'm laughing but I'm also madebin trolling
>>587373362I'd say that 2AAM is worse than regular msl or hcaa
>>587373802I've done that once or twice, but because the sortie wouldn't start and I could've be bothered to tell my party members what the deal was as I exited Online then logged back in. Side note, why the fuck does the party search bother showing you parties that are already full?
>>587367142>>587371234My country doesn't have aircraft carriers or isn't even legally allowed to own submarines. Why even live.
>E-sort is 6/4>Everyone made it into the game lobbyWhat fucking Jap code magic is this
>Good news: I found the fix to my mystery crashing>Bad news: The fix is disabling EACI didn't choose thug life, thug life chose me
>>587374940>It wasn't magic. It's a scam.
>>587375187EAC is just terrible. I remember EAC bluescreening my old pc when launching War Thunder. Maybe it was trying to help my mental health.
>>587375483>I remember EAC bluescreening my old pc when launching War Thunderkek sameI'd play russian roulette every time it'd attempt loading
>>5873733622AAMs are shitThe whole point of the Growler (and EW in general) is ESM+ECM. You shouldn't judge the plane based on its token spw it got to pad out the selection
>>587371593Take the right path. Baxter is bullshitting about the security being tighter. If you've been pedal to the medal the whole time you need to stop in your tracks like twice on the left and it fucks me up every time.
>>587354456Against a wall
>>587374937>legally allowed to own submarinesElaborateWe have one carrier but it's a tiny turd that can only launch helicopters and harriers lol
>>587378112Think. Think about what country was famous for its submarine exploits.
>>587378215Germany, Japan, the US and UK all have submarines.
>>587354456Any I could get, but I see her as a service top
>>587354456Cucken chair position as she watches Jackpot 9
>>587378112>>587378215>>587378408Paris Peace treaty bans Finland from owning submarines and PT-boats. I honestly think still abiding by it is incredibly gay. Its not like Russia cares about any treaties atm.
>>587381903That treaty hasn't stopped us from getting Väinämöinen class vessels tho
>>587381903actually I just looked it up, we stopped caring about the treaty but still didn't get any submarines, le sigh
>>587382007Väinämöinen class are the ICBMs. You are thinking of the Ahti class of nuclear submarine aircraft carriers.
>>587382254Ah, my bad.
>>587382254>nuclear submarine aircraft carriers???
>buy brand new su33>2nd most dmg behind some laamphoon
>>587382845Yeah, the Alicorn is based on the irl Ahti-class
I wish there was a game that was less arcadey than ace combat but without going into DCS autism territory
It would be neat if AC8 database listed in the missions page that which missions are carrier based and which aren't. I'm going up the tree towards F-35C just because of that paranoia although I would've maybe preferred the Sukhoi branch.
>>587382254Google is only showing me a 1930s surface ship for the Väinämöinen, and no results for an Ahti class submarine.Is this just a language thing where English Google won't show me Finnish articles or something?
>>587383153Scinfaxi is closer to the Ahti subs, Alicorn is AC going overboard
>>587383582The 18E is all you need for pretty much the whole campaign, get that one for carrier missions and then whatever else you want
>>587383696It's called OPSEC, buddy
>>587383868I'm not your buddy, pal
>>587383569There's war thunder where you need to deal with anton's ))))))))), and Nuclear Option where it's early access and the planes are all near-future crossbreeds.
>>587383582The rafale is honestly better than the F-35. The Su-33's also good enough as far as carrier planes are concerned.
Ran into a new way someone will deny you a kill a warfare>F-4 player flying low>I move into range>I watch one of my allied sam units fire at him>It shoots him downInstead of the usual just crash its just let the sam kill you.
I need my planes alarm system yell at me more when I'm going flat out just barely above the ground and pulling over G maneuvers. Also call me a retard
I feel like this mission from AC2 was the inspiration for B7R.>shithole airspace with inhospitable ground terrain>atmospheric conditions severely weaken radar meaning BVR combat is impossible>objective is to intercept a couple transport planes, no ground targets at all, should be simple>blindsided by an ace squadron right off the bat>reinforcements constantly appearing out of nowhere because long range radar doesn't work>several minutes of nonstop close range dogfighting through hell while you chase down your actual primary objective on the other side of the map
What the fuck kind of global warming is happening in strangereal that causes clouds to disrupt radar locks?
>>587385547It's a gameplay conceit and it works. Clouds provide obstructions and 'rough terrain' in an otherwise empty sky.
>>587385547The clouds are made of Belkan tears. They get stronger after every failed Belkan conspiracy, which is why you only start to notice their cumulative effects by the 2020s.
>>587385547Ulysses probably did some wacko shit to the planet
>>587385547Belkans put something in the rainwater to turn the clouds gay or something along those lines.
>>587385784@Belkrok Is this true?
>>587385547If we have microplastics, they can have some mineral that obstructs radar.
>>587385547Nigga it's a world where radar only locks on planes 1500m away and heatseeking missiles lock on windmills
>>587360575Cute bunny
WTF is Coster doing to B.Tan's aircraft?
Smokin that Nugget pack over Expo City
>>587387350Fried Nuggets, my favorite
>>587365765They were the inspiration for Purple Magic >yfw one of Dos Gringos songs is played for real in 8's MP event.
>>587387350Its an all you can eat buffet over Expo!
Should have had a song by The Pillows.
>let's give our most expensive experimental planes to our LEAST experienced trainee pilots! :DWho was it that came up with that again, Sabir? No wonder Enso and Tewy colluded to assassinate his fat ass.
Switch to metric for ruskie jets, switch to imperial for yankee jets
switch off for euro jetsradio malfunction
>>587388657I personally use Klingon. Kellicams is a surprisingly good unit of measurement.
>>587387350Calm down Drac.
>>587388572Enso probably suggested it to the LARPers-in-chief because they wanted some real world data about the performance of all the assists in a real combat scenario with untrained pilots.
>>587389054But do you have everything set to the original Klingon?
>>587388657Or I use metric for everything because measuring things in feet is stupid
>>587389574luq
>>587388572>let's give our most expensive experimental planes to our LEAST experienced trainee pilots! :DI don't think that the Trainees were the ones being trained. I have a suspicion that the Games were capable of fully autonomous flight, and that Enso gave the Games to the trainees so that the GAMES could be trained in accordance with Sotoa's Lux Lunae traditions and tactics. I thought the comment about how Gemma squadron's original leader crashed ON TAKEOFF was highly suspicious. I suspect that the original commander wasn't in alignment with Enso's wishes. He probably would have followed Sotoan Command's orders and kept Gemma squadron away from the fight at Expo City. But Enso more fervently wanted to oppose the FCU's advance and/or wanted a field test of the Games against Wings, so they killed the Gemma squadron leader in an "accident" so that the more impressionable Mavisimen would dance to their tune.
I choose to believe the Immortals became bounty hunters post war tracking down Enso executives slicing their way through various Corpo security forces and still end up failing to die.
>>587389148>I've been soul-cooking nuggets with Belkan Shamans since the BIPLANE>they made the Z.O.E. watching me fly on FENT>I tapped Cynthia Fitzgerald in 5 different timelines then double-stacked her SISTER>Scarface Squadron has me on speed-dial- I sired all of them>This shit ain't nothing to me man
>>587390730>crashed ON TAKEOFF was highly suspiciousI don't think anyone believes his crash was an accident and not lets reprogram his flight computer so it'll do fun things on takeoff. >capable of fully autonomous flight,That is 1997 level of tech of course they were any plane could have such a system installed in them. Enso wanting real world data on the planes new systems is the expected answer. At least they didn't use real people in the live first combat test so its alright.>>587391197I would play this spin off game but would it be a FPS shooter? or a 3rd person action style game?
>>587353446>>587353693Are GR just another Belkan?
>>587392652They start out that way, but I think by the time of 3 there's not much Belkan left.The mission lives on, of course.
>>587390730To continue on this, I think Enso, or at least facets of Enso such as division 303 were basically copying Ozymandia's gambit from the Watchmen. Enso wasn't trying to help the Sotoans win. They were propping up the Sotoans to be their Controlled Opposition monster.We repeatedly see within the game that Enso's favored tactics is to exploit backdoor access in computer systems. We directly see this in them using their expertise to sabotage the reconnaissance footage of the land battleship, all around compromise the FCU's communication systems, sabotage the refueling drones, and seize control of the Tonitrus spear.I don't think that it's any coincidence that the battleships were capable of fully autonomous operation. I suspect that Enso had backdoor access to them too, and ultimately had plans to lock the doors and turn it into an oven from day 1. When we look at the crown jewels of Sotoa's most advanced equipment, the Game and the X-40 are the only pieces that aren't explicitly stated to be capable of autonomous operation. I think 303's plan was to prop up Sotoa and use their manpower to put the Spear constellation into place. I think at that point 303 would have used the spears to simultaneously devastate every nation on the planet, and in the chaos also completely and utterly obliterate the Sotoans. The agricultural megafloat would have been obliterated. Fatsia's human population could be killed off by a radiation leak to leave the weapons factories intact. The battleships could lock the doors and cook the crew. The Games could assume full control of all flight systems and attack what was left of Sotoa's conventional air forces. When the dust settles, all that remains of Sotoa would be a fully controlled opposition puppet for the world to unify against. A threat that you can guarantee will never "win", but is strong enough to crush any opposition that your coalition faces.
>>587374937What did you come from, a landlocked country?
>>587392957You've posted this before.
>>587393082I have and I still believe it.
>>587393430I think you're overcomplicating things.The plan was basically>fund Sotoa to attack FCU>Sotoa wins, superpowers like Osea have to intervene>in the aftermath, Enso Order is tasked with rebuilding and ends up with a corporate state, whether de facto or de jureThe only difference with DD is DD wanted the FCU to fight Sotoa to a draw. His plan failed pretty quickly, which is why the rest of Enso Order cut him loose. It was the same plan, though.
>>587392889Are you impied belkans were extinct in AC3? Say It Ain't So!
>>587364539Izaki was right. All Three Land Battleship fights are boring.
>>587393626We know that different factions of Enso have different agendas. I think what you've described is simply DD's plan for advancing Enso. To cause destruction and have Enso gradually gain further influence in all facets of life via the reconstruction efforts. I think 303's plan was a more aggressive Ozymandias Gambit to forcibly shatter society and unify it against an perceived existential threat.
>>587393997larp
>>587392652>Are GR just another Belkan?Nah, not really. We don't exactly know where GR came from, but what we do know is that they're an international corporation, with their earliest appearance in the series (after AC3) being in AC6, so you can pretty much take it for fact that they're global. Unlike Neucom, we don't know how GR was founded. If they were yet another vengeful arm of crypto-Belkans, they would have done something crazy by now. Even in Electrosphere, GR never pulls a Grey Men-tier world-destroying scheme or anything, they just kinda run a whole continen t(contested only by Neucom), and that's not the Belkan M.O. we know.
>PA announces a new plane is coming to AC8>It's pic relatedHow would you feel anons?
Marine F/A-18D with an ATARS recon pod in place of the gun.
>>587388572I know fighter planes are VERY different from assault rifles, but if they do it anything like the army, they don't give current soldiers new gear, they issue it to new recruits. For example, current soldiers will generally keep M4s, but the new recruits will train with the SIG Spear.
What's the difference between marines and navy anyway
>>587395769Is that a fucking sidewinder?
>>587396868the former spit out, the latter swallow
>>587396914No it's Magic.
>>587396914it says Magic 1it's the french version of it
>>587395932>decide to make EW planes their own category>only add 3, 1 of which is made up>despite having so many options of variants already in the gamePA's design decisions greatly vex me sometimes.
>>587397060>>587397102Ah, I thought maybe that was the name of the plane or something. Strange bootleg. At least the K-13 is just a direct schematic ripoff.
What do you think the first names of the following are?O. Shawn (Green Team)D. Ishaq (Land Battleship 1)J. Tiwari (Land Battleship 2)A. Webb (Sharks)C. Perez (Jackpot 1)S. Perez (Pollux)M. Stan (Magnet)O. Kestner (Immortals)A. Garnett (Purple Magic)D. Keyes (Purple Magic)
>>587397285But anon, how will they fill out the battle passes?
>>587397704Don't let Kate see this
>us plane MSSL is still a shitass AIM-9M>russian one is an r60>french planes get MICA-IRs for their MSSLschange it to the 9X and R-73, and QAAMs to ASRAAMs and R-74s
>>587397285Shame they couldn't get the Chinese licenses, a Jammer Flanker would have been awesome.
>>587397947Hehe ASRAAM
>>587397692Owen ShawnDavut IshaqJamal TiwariAndrew WebbCarlos PerezSergio PerezMihaliette StanOscar KestnerAlexander GarnettDavid Keyes
>>587398267Planes are so complicated Who comes up with this stuff
>>587395932Light blue HornetI would use this skin for online.
>>587398467Men.
>>587397704bold of you to assume battle passes wont prioritize the other types assuming we only get a superplane plus 1 or 2 normal planes
Any news on Linux multiplayer? For 8 I mean, haven't tried 7's yet.
>>587397813>Tasha << Pfft what she going to do? Put me in timeout? >>
>>587397285If the leaks are correct, they'll at least be adding the Su-24MP
>>587398651They should have had a standard, light, and dark primary color selection for liveries by default. Keep out black and white for selling, and add a two-tone selection option per-plane purchased with ZOLL. Their current system is so fucking limited.
>>587398851NTA but they'll have to do something or run out of superplanes before the first year is up.
>>587399001>Their current system is so fucking limited.Not to mention the rotation in the store is subhuman behavior.
>>587398951Hopefully they release the EF-111A at the same time as sister ships.
>>587397285im hoping they add the ef-111 or something
You anons need to curb your enthusiasm. You can see the actual datamined planes in the database website. These are:>ADF-11F -TRI->CFA-44 -PAS->F-14A -RZG->Su-30SM -MHY->Su-37 -Y13-Along with the Morgan, that's a years worth of planes. Everything else is headcanon made up by some anon.
>>587398951I put F-111 & EF-111 on the survey
>>587398951I hope that the 24 is more gunpod kino
>>587399287>>587399629EF-111 mind
>>587393997Theres too much waiting around in the first half of the fights. The second half of all three are great though especially LBS 2. If you could destroy the tracks in LBS 1 yourself by flying on the inside of them and the anti air weapons were more aggressive and harder to take down then all three would be way better. Fucking kino songs too especially LBS3 and Death Rattle
>>587399647No Wyvern? You're shitting me
>>587399647If they actually only release 3 fucking new planes, one of which was in 7, over the course of a year then PA needs to be dissolved and banished to the souls slop mines.
>>587399647Anon, those are planes/skins ported over from AC7, it doesn't mean that that's all there is or will ever be, it's just they switched everything over to UE5 and kept some stuff on the backburner for the first few passes, like the YF-23.
ReminderWe're getting Trigger skins for all the planes F-14A already has the Trigger emblem in its data set but no skin loaded in yet.
>>587360608Because then they'd have to show where the fuck it's launching the missiles from. It doesn't have any visible launchers for them like the Aigaion has for the Nimbus.
>>587396868Marines are supposed to be the Navy's security forces doing things like securing beach heads, securing safe docking and boarding actions. At some point everyone decided they should be shock troopers
>>587400006The missile knows where it is
>>587399962I hope there's a 3 strikes emblem you can put on top of any other emblem. Would be sick to look like a convict bounced from some famous group.
>>5874001783 sin lines over the 5 fingers might look good
>>587398467have you seen a combustion engine carjet planes are so mechanically simple in comparison
>>587399647That's boring and lame as shit.>yeah bro who'd ever want cool unique planes? just bring back nostalgia skins lmao
>6 more days of farming 10 tickets a dayI can't take it anymore, it's not worth it.
>>587399647The only really crappy thing is if they do one plane per season pass>Pixy and Zero theme>No Ustio or Belkan emblems?
>>587401662So don't do it? Videogames should be played for fun, not seen as chores. Free yourself.
>>587401662>6 daysThe 10 daily limit is permanent anon>>587401814Clearly they're waiting for the season of F-15C Cipher to roll those out
Challenge requires me to use a plane worth 1500 points or more and the only plane that I have for that is the Morgan.
FAEB are stuck in the PS2 glory days it had shit damage in 7
>«It's Time»
>>587402109Just buy a Rafale
>>587402461Even the fucking title screen art is repulsive
>>587399962Why am I supposed to be excited for a boring ass Trigger skin that could just be an emblem? Where's my Scarface kino?
>>587402461Enjoy high frame rate shenanigans
>>587401838I will not give up. I will rise above.>>587402091I'm not insane to keep grinding once they cut the emergency sortie rate. I just want to take advantage of the increased rate while I can.
>>587402679Why'd you say 6 more days I thought that increased sortie and scramble chance goes for the whole month?
>>587402821
>>587402883Fug. Oh well I already burned through all my boosters I'll enjoy it while it lasts and get as much as I can
>>587402637>>587402637I'm already fucking pissed offcannot i remap the controls for acceleration\deceleation to yaw left\right?Fuck me
>>587403181Probably do that through Steam settings
>>587402636The Trigger emblem was included in the base game it'll come first>Scarface kinoThat comes later when they have made Scarface skins for every plane in the game.
>>587402468I'll give it a whirl. I used the Growler before for these and the 5 matches in Warfare almost caused a mental episode.
>>587402109>I'm doing thatUse the I3 skin and set all 3 of the weathering options to fulllooks like your flying an 80's rust bucket I kind of like this might keep it this way.
>>587402243I will not tolerate UGBL slander
>>587403571the only way to fly the morgan is with all weathering to max with silver paintmakes it look like it was dug out of an old Grunder warehouse
>>587404092I feel the Block 1 skin is better for that purpose, adds even more to the feeling of being a forgotten prototype.
>>587404092>>587403571God, I love the rustbucket look. This was one of the best additions to AC8
>>587403647Osea has those too.
>>587404274i've not unlocked level 20 on it yetgot an image of it?
>>587402461I liked the bomber missions
>>587402468Isn't that 1450? I thought you had to step up to Typhoon/Growler/Streagle to get above 1500 base cost.
The Stauros missiles are stored in the balls.
>>587404471
>>587404605Those intakes are so hideous. The Typhoon is ugly for a similar reason.
>>587405252damn that looks good
>>587404092I use the silver skin too but without the discoloration. I like the shine, it makes the plane look like an early jet age prototype. All planes need chrome skins.
>>587381903Never look into how we managed to keep our massive artillery stock during the treaty limits.Around the Finn the ice is thin.Answer: Coastal artillery cataloging was possible to list as "miscallenius". So we turned pretty much anything that went over the treaty limit into "coastal artillery" on paper.
MPBM explosions should also part the clouds, in a similar manner to a tornitrus strike.
>>587405509>Never look into how we managed to keep our massive artillery stock during the treaty limits.do you mean this?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_Cache_CaseI haven't heard of hidden artillery stocks before.
>>587398924>things said by Tasha, moments before she gets put in timeout
>>587405920>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_Cache_CaseThat was different. Not so easy to hide artillery, so they were hidden by bureaucracy. Still not at all surprising to find rifles hidden inside old wooden house walls somewhere in Finland.
>>587404092>>587405252I'm glad I"m not the only one who thinks like this. All the Morgans I run into during matches are cleanI also max out the dirt for all older planes. Did do it with Su-25 but I couldn't find a combo that worked good with that shark skin.Speaking of ace coins since we get enough for two skins which two skins did everyone else pick?
>>587405509Benis :DDD
>>587405509Finland was the real world sSrangereal during WW2. They used frontline aircraft from 9 different nations: Finland, UK, France, Italy, Holland, Soviet Union, USA and Germany.
we need rust for all RAM coated planes
coop warfare is mega gay without cost restrictionswatching my teammates repeatedly kicking the shit out of some noobs in stock planes is no fun for anyone260k to 6k final score
>>587407009Strangereal* dont type while drunk
>>587406002and getting more maths homework.
>>587404627i liked the helicopter and door gunner missionsand the soundtrack
I can understand trying to innovate with gimmicks that, at the end, are just annoying(DFM, Blackhawk missions, Apache missions, AC130 etc.) but the one thing i cannot understand is why they fuck they set the game in the real world.IMO, the suspension of disbelief on the wacky shit that happens in ace combat works because OF strangereal.Having it set IRL is just goofy.
>>587407563yeah everything could be forgiven if it was set in strangereal
>>587407563It may surprise you to learn but most of PA are westaboo's they were making that western game they had always dreamed of. It was CoD with planes>Then they learned they were the only ones who liked it.
>>587407563They wanted to do a cowadoody
>>587407892>everything could be forgivenDFMDFMDFMNo somethings can never be forgiven
>>587408086dfm was stupid as fuck but it would have at least been ace combat if it was in strangerealwithout strangereal none of it makes any sense
>>587407563It was a product of it's time. Remember that 2011 was the peak of CoD and the 360 era.
I find it funny how 4AAM are kind of okay only on the Barricader
>>587407009>Many Finnish pilots racked up enormous scores by using basic tactics against Soviet aircraft. The default tactic was the four-plane "parvi" (swarm), with a pair flying lower as bait, and a higher pair to dive on enemy interceptors. The Soviet Air Force was never able to counter this tactic. The top-scoring 239 pilot was Hans Wind, with 39 kills.[37] Lt Hans Wind, with six other Buffalos of LeLv 24, intercepted some 60 Soviet aircraft near Kronstadt. Two Soviet Pe-2 bombers, one Soviet Hawker Hurricane fighter, and 12 I-16s were claimed for the loss of just one 239 (BW-378).[38] After evaluation of claims against actual Soviet losses, aircraft BW-364 was found to have been used to achieve 42½ kills in total by all pilots operating it, possibly making it the highest-scoring fighter airframe in the history of air warfare.[citation needed] The top scoring Finnish ace, Ilmari Juutilainen, scored 34 of his 94½ kills in 239s, including 28 in BW-364.[39]Hard to get more Strangereal than that.
>1500+ cost plane challenge>can't even get one till you're halfway through the rankst-thanks
>>587408521yeah it sucks that it has to be base cost not plane + module cost
>>587408513>The default tactic was the four-plane "parvi" (swarm), with a pair flying lower as bait, and a higher pair to dive on enemy interceptors.So legit Joker flight tactics in AC8?
>>587408513>Yellow 4I guess he made sure his engine was always in top shape>>587408521Found the anon who didn't preorder or you would have a 1500+ point plane.
>>587407563As another anon said, it was a product of its time. Fucking EVERYONE was trying to cash in on the cowadoody gritty modern realistic war train and PA rightfully assumed that the average gun n' ball subhuman would be turned off by stuff like "Osea" and "Yuktobania".
>>587408086DFM's usage in 8 is actually pure and unironic sovl, just like the rest of the game.Slightly related, but something I've noticed with a lot of the criticisms of the game is the inability to take 8's narrative genuinely. So many nowadays need to view everything through some cynical and/or ironic lens so the cheesy stuff in the game is viewed as a negative instead. Though I also chalk some of that up to literal autism where some niggas just flat out have no understanding of human interaction. >>587408513>The Soviet Air Force was never able to counter this tacticMaybe I'm just a retard but couldn't they just like, not take the bait? Or have their own fighters pull a double bait and ambush the ambushing planes?
the existence of a British AWACS implies the existence of Australian and Kiwi AWACS.
>>587408521just buy the pass for an instan morgan :^)
>>587408781More terrifyingly the implication the exitance of a Britain in Strangereal and possibly their cuisine!
>>587407009>>587408513Except Finland lost the Great Patriotic War and was forced to agree to Finlandization - much like South Korea's defeat in the Liberation War.
>>587408513Holy shit what an ugly aircraft. Fitting name, I guess.
>>587408932Emmeria? they even have challengers
I just wanted to say thank you to the anons who would not stop shilling MGP Frogfoot.I shall now join your ranks
>>587408774Soviets were free kills for a long time. The Red Air Force got destroyed and reborn like 2 or 3 times over in WW2. The only triple digit kill count German ace who wasn't farming commies or inept British bombers was Hans-Joachim Marseille.
>>587409276Froggy absolutely obliterates the armor and cooling units.
>>587409610Yeah, but all of this was justified in order to avoid a coup against Stalin.
>>587409276You're now allowed to join the 404th Frog Flight anon
Surely this time throwing MPBMs at chandelier will work
>>587408932But did Strangereal Britain had anything equivalent to The Blitz to fuck up their cuisine culture for decades to come?
Oh yeah Dawn Aerowar released. Anyway, thoughts on shitbox aircraft like the SU-22?
>>587407120Warfare is mega gay in general.
>>587410440>sustained bombing campaignI'm not sure there's a country in Strangereal that hasn't had a Blitz equivalent.
>>587410440The Blitz improved British cuisine as they had to import food.
>>587410714Imports were reduced because of attacks on shipping and people were planting "victory" gardens for vegetables like carrots to supplement rationing.
>>587410472I like them and they will never appear as a playable aircraft in an Ace Combat title ever
Yak 141 when?
>>587409337>Hans-Joachim Marseille.Just read through his wikipedia page. Dude seems pretty based, for a kraut.
>>587404092It's a weird looking plane this oneThe front fuselage looks like a stretched F-18 and then the back goes full sci-fi
>>587410472>Oh yeah Dawn Aerowar released.Anyone is watching that? The main takeaway I got from that is the protag looks like Karl Urban.
>>587411228not interested in interactive movies, no
I hope when they add some high-end attackers, they give them a not-bullshit SPW selection.An FB-22 that has UGBLs would make me kill myself.
>>587410938A poor joke that British food has always been bad that war improved it.>>587411332Its not even an interactive movie. It legit is a series of episodes stitched together.
>>587411620It had those shit XSDBs and SFFS in 7 didn't it? I'd be fine with it having SFFS if it had something like 4AGM instead.
I wish the game had dynamic timeie a long mission that starts at dusk and by the end it's night, or the other way aroundobviously the time scale would have to be faster than 1:1 but it would be cool
almost done leveling my prowler & growler to 20think I'm gonna do phantom nextyour thoughts?
>>587412898based
>>587411656>It legit is a series of episodes stitched together.Wouldn't it been better and made more sense to just treat this as an actual series then?
>>587408781New Zealand outright exists in Strangereal, but it's massive and off the coast of Antarctica.
>>587412898Go for it, it'll only need 20ish trips to Birb and Chandler anyway
Dawn Aerowar launch trailer dropped.https://youtu.be/EzO_9XEgLzA
Radius+radius or radius+submunition for SFFS?
HOPECORE CONFIRMEDSTRANGEREAL IS HEALING
>>587413302>>it'll only need 20ish trips to Birb and Chandler anyway>can't join the party because it is full>can't join the party because it is full>can't join the party because it is full>can't join the party because it is full
>>587412898Go the distance, brother.
>>587413326not ace combatnoone cares
>>587413383There is only despair, this is why we need V2
>>587413326So anyway thoughts on the YF-17?
>>587413302phantom is actually good in Assault with the UGB and HVAAthough it is a discount LAAM and UGBL slinger you can easily top score with it
>shoots a nuke at you>does a 360>walks awaydelta dart when
>>587413408Just play during American primetime, ez
>everyone having fun playing MP while I'm grinding medals in 7Do people here still play MP in 7?
>>587413680>360If it does a 360 then it is back where it started and isn't walking away yah muppet!
>>587413767both yuro and mutt prime times are largely populated by chinks who keep nicking my slots
>>587413835the guy doesn't PSM
>>587413612It's just a pointier F-18
>>587413680the air 2 genie, an air to air nuclear rocket. the pilot shoots it at a soviet bomber formation carrying thermonuclear payloads, pulls a split S and leaves before the blast fries him (theoretically)cold war was very ace-combat coded
>you can SFFS bomb the Chandelier core from aboveNice. That's a cool option in case I'm ever too far out of position for a tunnel run.
>>587413630Assault/Warfare give so little exp that I forgot you can use them to levelI've been bringing a level 20 plen to actually get to play, grind the 500 sortie title, and roll in the complimentary exp coupons
hoping in the future they make a 4-player "arcade" mode where you do a string of maybe 3-4 random missions that are structured like the single player missions but with much tougher enemies, extra side objectives for score and a big boss fight at the end. Obviously the goal is to score big with getting shot down earning a point penalty and incurring a lengthy respawn timer with a team wipe ending the run all together.
procedurally generated infinite waves mission with no time limit and a return line, just more and more enemies coming at you until you're in the mother of all furballs 1v70 and it just keeps getting bigger
>>587414682My framerate would kill me before any enemy did.
>>587414507Frankly even just making assault 4 player right now would add so much life to the online mode but the Japs are too retarded to figure that out.
Do you think they will ever add more real world roundels, I know theres the jap roundel in the game rn.
>mfw someone brings an attacker to warfare fort grays
>>587414919That's me
>>587414919Finishing the old weekly is more important than your victory exp coupon, please don't understand
>>587414919i bring reds to arsenal bird sortiesit doesn't matternone of this matters
>>587414852I literally just wanna fly with my friends with the ever present threat of getting torn in half by a landship railgun. The pvevp shit in assault is so forced man, you get fuck all for "winning" and being MVP so why have it.
>weekly this, weekly thateverything I hear you say about multiplayer in this game makes it sound like a miserable experiencewho fukin wants to keep track of weekly challenges and points and whatever
>>587415084>>587415142It just gives me the feeling that they're mixing up assault fort grays for warfare. Which is funny, if concerning.
>>587415296bamco heard everyone wanted ACI back but didn't think to make the experience any better because the fanbase didn't tell them to (it was assumed they would enhance the experience from its previous iteration on their own)
>>587415212Not having to fight over kills so much also would improve things significantly. Everyone gets to have fun not just the fags running current meta shit. >>587415296Anons here are into cock and ball torture hence why they keep playing online.
>wealthy and (presumably) highly skilled mercenary pilot with multiple 5th generation and prototype jets in their personal hangar>can't buy shirts or pants in the style they want and have to rely on the supplies girl to maybe delivery the goods
>>587415296The "weeklies" are silly and have been unlocking in batches each week and staying unlocked, rather than being due the same week
>>587415913i have been wearing the same two pairs of pants and 5 or so shirts for the past 20 years
>>587415952>the jpeg dog from 7kek
>>587415913Cute girl said he looked nice 30 years ago, so that stays.
>>587413612It's no Persian Thunderbolt.
>>5873835823, 10, 11, 12, 26.That's an important number. Keep an eye out.
>>587415952kino
>>587415952>jpeg DoggoOh no, Tasha is going to try and burn Osea to the ground in the DLC and you have to stop her?
>>587383582>I'm going up the tree towards F-35C just because of that paranoia although I would've maybe preferred the Sukhoi branch.su-33 is carrier capable :)
>>587415952Great art but it should have been an F-18>>587416257Dual canted tailfins are sex
>>587383582It's in each mission's page, under the Briefing sectionAnd they're all easy missions, so just bee yourself
>>587414919>Why is no one bringing an attacker? Guess I'll do it myself>Locked in>So what map is th- AWWWWWW SHIT
You guys read about the missing F-35 parts >over $2.5bil worth of F-35 parts unaccounted forhttps://www.airforcetimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2026/11/10/pentagon-cant-track-millions-of-f-35-spare-parts-watchdog-finds/
butt
>>587416850I'm just building my own at home
>>587416841Disconnecting is morally justified here
>>587416857twerk it
>>587416850oh THAT's what those boxes were
>>587416850Someone making a new Stealth Camaro?
>>587414897It's only a jap roundel insofar as every other shape emblem is also outlined in white. That's obviously why they added it, but it's not explicitly a real world roundel.
>>587416631The F-35 is the natural evolution for the squad anyway
>>587416850How does this happen in the richest, strongest country with the supposedly most serious military and defense industry?
Co-op cost limits?Nah son. Carrier based aircraft limits.You will use the Intruder and you will be happy about it.
>>587417626A mix of corruption and retardation
>>587417626Usually when you have a massive organization the logistics become immensely more complicated and it's significantly easier to fuck things up. You can buy military equipment that has 'fallen off a truck' on the internet with relatively little hassle, and it's been this way for decades. Now just imagine the same logistical clusterfuck of sending the wrong box to the wrong address, but with highly expensive fighter components. Nobody is safe from some retard or malicious actor changing a shipping address or using the wrong label.
>>587417781You know I highly expect this to be a thing known PA.
>>587418003Yeah but bilions worth of spare parts for the flagship of your country's military aviation? Can't be an accident
>>587418003Also, there’s a good possibility that a lot of the “missing” items are exactly where they’re supposed to be, the paperwork just got fucked up for one reason or another
>>587416857s-stealthy planforms...
>>587407563God I hope someday they remake this game as a true Strangereal AC because the last two missions are fucking peak Ace Combat>Dogfighting in the eye of a hurracaine>Dogfighting in the center of the National Mall, while cherry blossoms are blooming while an angry Russian schizo babbles at youHonestly there are a lot of really cool missions like the A-10 naval escort and the Moscow liberation ones
>>587417626100% corruption and cyber fuckery. parts for these don't accidentally go missing, they're kept track of every single step of the way from the very second a blueprint of it is drawn because these planes are part of how america keeps and projects its soft power (and how lots of people get and stay very rich)
>>587413383Absolutely based
>>587407563>why they fuck they set the game in the real world.Because they didn't make that game for you or for me, they made it for teenagers for whom gaming started and ended at call of duty. And for those people, a generic USA vs Russia setting is a lot more attractive than Strangereal, or so Bamco/PA thought
>>587416850>we could have strangereal levels of plane proliferation if not for corruption
Jesus Christ the 2AAM fucking sucks.Is there any way to make it not utterly dogshit?
>>587407563Game was made by retarded Corpos for Corpos rather than players and failed because of it despite having some neat ideas DFM was not one of them
>>587419167Yeah use another weapon.
>>587419167No, it just blows outright.
>planefu f-35>completely ruined visually by the gunpod>completely gimpled gameplay wise with shitty abilities and special weaponsFuck you PA
>>587418965It's even funnier because the plot is basically the original Modern Warfare 2-3 >Angry Russian man decides to take revenge on the whole US for NATO warcrimes>Starts a terrorist mercenary/arm dealing cell in Africa/Middle East>Link up with Russian Ultranationalists and over throw the current government and start a brutal civil war>Get enough weapons and resources to open a second front on the USADoesn't the villain also look a lot like Makarov and even have a similar name
>>587419480Would you rather not have guns?
>>587413383>hope>hope>hopeWe didn't bring one of the architects of the war to justice. Enso's assets just changed hands, probably right back into the same architect's hands with new shell companies. Belka continues to exist, and we draw ever closer to the electrosphere.
>>587419480The online is a boring waste of time anyway.
>>587419167Pair it with ESM :^)
>>587413383Wake me up when the start talking about Baxter's manifesto.
>>587419604That's why AC is peak hopecore. It has a hopeful message in an objectively shitty situation.By the end of almost every AC game you've managed to make a positive change through your own efforts, even if the wider situation continues to deteriorate.That's what gives people hope, knowing that they can make a difference and make things better even if it doesn't mean fixing every global issue.
>>587417626Affirmative action.
>>587419480gunpod but no stovl doesn't even make sense they just be doing whatever
>>587418396The F-35 consortium isn't just one country, which adds to the clusterfuck.
>>587416857butt
>>587420060What do you mean? The F-35C does not have an internal gun. And that's the CATOBAR version.
>>587419480not to mention the abominable special skinswhy no aggressor camo?
>>587420315that's the point. if there's no stovl, it's not a B or C because those have stovl. but the A has an internal cannon, so why would you strap a gunpod to it? so we get the worst of both worlds, we get a gunpod but no vtol fan
>>587420245prolapsed
>>587420451The C does not have STOVL, only the B does. The C is the CATOBAR version.
Just put the fucking cannon on the F-35 without the gun pod. It's not real life anyway and the gunpod looks like complete shit.
>>587420654or let's put two more gunpods on it and full dakka
>>587420796Yea that'd be okay too because it would be really funny
>>587420654Only the F-35A has the internal gun, and that one is not carrier capable.
>>587420990I'm well aware you SPERG I just don't give a fuck.
>>587416857Pretty, elegant >>587420245Whore
>>587407892>>587407957>>587408074>>587408265>>587408741>>587418556>>587418965>>587419236I'm on the second mission in Russia as well.Since i was a child when i played it the first time, i remember Trinity being a huge and very dangerous kind of weapon.Now that i understand armaments more, this is another goofy shit. You have the entire world shitting itself for what it's basically an underpowered cruise missle. Hell, a Blu-82 is like 4 times more destructive than a trinity warhead, in the same packageAlso the F-35 from behind looks retarded
>realize I did the campaign on normal instead of veteran so need to play through it again to unlock aceWhat are the most fun planes to use for the single plane type medals?
>>587422223Don't you need to finish it on Elite?
>>587422223EA36 hands down on the ECM Su-34 on attackerFighters and Multirole take whatever you want to flight.SODs slingers are fun
>>587422319Do I? If so, I need to beat it on hard to unlock elite.
The BF3 Hornet mission was so tight. It still looks really nice.
>>587422390You should have elite from the start.
>>587419584I'd rather have F-35A with a built in gun.
>>587422778But then you couldn't take off carriers in a game where you spend the entire campaign on a carrier.
What would I give for a tonitrus spear to hit me irlSend me to the promised land
>>587423230Anything can take off from a carrier.
>>587423230>entire campaign on a carrierIt's like 3 missions that are carrier only. I'd rather have a good plane that I can't use on 3 missions instead of a bad plane that's not worth using anywhere.
>>587423230The game isn't real life you autistic fuck
>>587422223Fighters: FA-36 since SOD can groundpound, and HPAA is good against the braindead AIMultirole: Morgan to get your TLS reps in, and laugh at MPBM obliterating bossesAttacker: Su-34 for UGBL, F-15E to practice with SFFSEW: EA-36 because campaign IEWS isn't nerfed, and it has D-grade SP.Ws to pair with instead of F-grade onesAlso, give your wingmen Morgans whenever possible, it's fun to watchAnd protip: mid-mission supply lines also resupply your wingmen
>>587422223Fighter - MiG-21 so you can double up and do your gun only run at the same timeBring the FA-36 for carrier missionsYou'll also want to think about which one you want to do the no damage run with. Personally I did multirole for that
>>587423875In hindsight I should've done my Fighter run as guns only. I'm planning Multirole/Guns using the F-4E and F-35C, then Attacker/NoDmg using Fullback/Strike Eagle/Intruder (EW as a backup for NoDmg if a hard mission filters me).
>>587389543They literally fucking say this in game, are all of you people scrolling tiktok reels when cutscenes play
>>587422416Was a bit disappointed when sound didn't muffled when Rex puts on his helmet.
>>587424562Dogfights for attacker/no-damage might make you cry. Especially a certain 30+ minute mission
>>587425490I already S ranked M28 on Ace to beat Topkek pre nerf. I'm happy to spam checkpoints to get an Attacker over the line.
It's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzO_9XEgLzAhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2991650/DAWN_AEROWAR/Someone that is interested let us know if it's worth it
>>587407563I've always liked the suggestion that ACAH is Strangereal's version of Ace Combat, with an equally nonsensical anime-tier fictional Earth.
>>587425490It F-15E is honestly good enough that I don't imagine it'll be that big of an issue. Not to mention the Fullback can do PSMs if you really want to try to do it that way.
>>587423473sorry, overruled by project aces and their official partnership with lockheed martin
>>587426024Late.>>587413326
>>587425874you can't restart from checkpoint in a no-damage run, it still dings your score at the end even if you reload
>>587426268Oh really? That worked back in 7. Fuck it, EW for No Damage then.
>>587418965I'm ashamed to say it but Ass Horizon was my first AC and I liked it at the time. I tried AC6 after and got bored with it immediately and quit. Fast forward decades later and now AC is my favorite series and I've played all the games except for 6 because I no longer have a 360 for it. The fucking irony.
Okay i forgive everything bad they did in ACAH
>Alicorn raid>A Morgan player who knows how to farm drones with burst missiles>The only time I see burst missiles is during drone launches>Me in Su-25>Blowing the shit out of the sub with 4agm & SFFS>I beat him by 20 pointsI could only image the rage he was havingBoss raids need MVP sections>Take Su-25 on Shilage>Several other good plane/weapon choices by both teams.>Me 30pts shy of topping 30K>2nd highest score was 17K>Everyone else was like 12-15KWhat kind of room did I find myself in?
>>587426365EW will suck too, ECM isn't godmode against AI, and XSDB+ESMstandardspam is still miserable for groundpounding
>>587426365You can only if the damage was taken in that section. To be safe you need to restart the mission. In case you passed a check point and didn't know before you hit restart.
>>587426893At least it got you interested in the series
>>587427139Kind of sad we'll never get to see that skin again
Is this another Tewy emblem don't remember seeing it in campaign
>>587430105No. That’s the nugget squadron IIRC
>>587430105>F-16 SotoaBasadó
Aurelian Liberation Corps should appear again sometime
Team eurotriangle
>>587431327I should do American, European and Russian themed runs.
>>587431327I want to puke
hey guys can i be in the game yet
>>587431327>Viggen camoWhy do you taunt us so PA?
>>587431610hes so happy :D, I can never be mad at this plane
>>587430105Probably what the nugget squadron falls under
>>587431709>pick F-32>immediately GLHF >every kill, player or AI, do the ":D" emoticonI want it.
>>587385547>Retarded schizobabble headcanon repliesI hate that I made this place my home sometimes
>>587431610He'll be in the game (sort of) when we get to the electrosphere Battle Pass
>>587421226Locksneed Fartin lawyers care a lot though.
>>587432547They might actually put the full thing in if they use one and pair it down or build it up for the other.
Witch Combat
>>587432357Purple Magic isn't dead. The radio transmissions were faked. They're being used to train planes to use music and an acoustic weapon.
>>587432929
I wish the disperse command let you tell your buddies to focus on either ground or air targets like in ZeroBetter yet let me give each wingman a separate command
>>587433113
>>587433367Yo buddy
>>587432929>>587433113>>587433367>dumb loli witch bullshitCan you please fuck off back to whatever thread you came from?
GJ11 has great evil ai drone vibes; would make for a good mid tier enemy in a near future AC
>>587433367Looks like a pretty cool doujin. What circle was it made by?
>>587426365>Fuck it, EW for No Damage then.As an anon who did EW No Damage, it's fucking cancer. None of the Jammers have good a2g options so on a lot of missions the infinite AA guns will eventually chip past the adaptive armor material part and force a restart. Then again I did it on Ace because all other difficulties are irrelevant, so it should be less cancer on Normal or whatever it's called.
>>587434101Why do I see jagged edges around the airintake?It doesn't look evil it looks kind of goofy with that hump.
>>587434190Aren't EX ESS DEE BEES at least OK with the capacity part and the radius part?
>>587433113>>587433367>>587433635Naw give me the Witch as my WSO casting spells and enchanting my missiles and maintaining anti magic shields against enemy aces and their witches
>>587432929>>587433113>>587433367>>587433635Fuck off. Get the fuck out.
KONOWHERE IS ITI NEED IT
>>587434350Even with Extended Drop Rack and no other SPW you only get 36 of them, meaning 9 salvos, in a game where some missions have AC6 levels of enemy density. It only really gets bad for the land battleship bossfights and Rocky Island 2, but you'll run out of XSDBs on basically any groundpounder mission.
>>587434149Artist name is abubu
>>587435053Oh, so it's just fake game renders. Should've guessed.
>>587435146Yeah they even go the extra step and add in PS trophy alert in some images.
Dumbass question. Can you even buy ace coins yet?
>>587432806I very much doubt they give the most remote of shits if someone depicted the F-35C with an internal gun versus the hideous gunpod.
>>587434350No, they are not good and despite their description you don't get enough of them.
>>587435820You'd think so but corpo lawyers are the worst fucking ghouls who will latch onto any small technicality to extract more money from you.
>>587435820No, but Project Aces does. It's why the Phantom-E is no longer carrier-capable despite (erroneously) being so in previous entries.
>>587435949>>587435052Idk, they felt at least OK when you fly high enough to avoid lockon and just dumbfire them. Yeah the radius isn't great but you get 4 per salvo and they can still clear somewhat efficiently.
>>587436285I still don't understand what made them do this in AC04 and AC5. If they wanted a carrier phantom why not model an actual carrier model? It's not like they had to worry about high accuracy laser scans back then. The models were low poly enough that it didn't matter.
>>587435976Hard to say. I figure it's more this. >>587436028 because PA are hardgun plane autists, which I do respect them for but good lord the fucking gunpod makes me want to never touch the F-35C even if I play in cockpit view 99% of the time. >>587436285I use them on the 15E purely because you still get more than enough SFFSs, but I would never use them otherwise unless forced to.
Fucking KEK they just had to make Nagase have a cameo in ACAH as wellDIdn't catch it 15 years ago
>>587436464>but I would never use them otherwise unless forced toWell, yes, that's the point. The EW run pretty much forces you to and they're at least on the lower end of ~ok~ while your other options are straight up BAD. Unless you want to commit to flying the Prowler just to get LAGMs.
>>587435803Yes since Day 1 just like all the preorder stuff turned out to be.
>>587432929>>587433113>>587433367>>587433635Gay and retarded
>>587437234Yes you are
>FCU are poorfags in 8>UPEO are poorfags in 3I wonder if we'll be poorfags in 9 or if we'll be rich again.
>>587437753I'm tired of being the raped, I want to be the rapist, a righteous rapist if possible.
>>587437753We'll be rich afterall 9 is going to be the Yuke-Sota war where you play as Tasha's mom.
>>587437753we'll be working under a doniphan group that's nearly bankrupted itself fixing the space elevator
I want an Ace Combat where both sides have super weapons. Give us an Aigaion or something and have us operate out of it.
>>587437834>>587437942What is Trigger with lasers?
>>587438054Not the same thing
>>587437753In 9 you are a Neucom "asset protection" force and you completely destroy the military of one of the world powers in the name of asset protection
>>587438227Impossible. Neucom has ZERO (0) good pilots.
>>587438227Would be fun if in AC9 you start in the "evil" faction, and you can choose to defect or stay loyal.
>>587438054That was 7 years ago man, it's been a while. Anyways I do see the point of still being the underdog because the enemy hijacked the 2 super weapons that were supposed to be on your team, it would've been different if we each had one arsenal bird or some other creature on our side, don't think we've had one since the Arkbird.
>new campaign>decide to not skip the prologue like I have the last few runs>realize Cope casually forces Toprak and his wingman to overshoot as their first contact with each other and had a perfect firing solution on themHoly fuck. Seeing the anti-Cope posting in previous threads made me forget that he was actually him. It's amazing that the FCU had managed to spawn TWO Ace-of-Aces caliber pilots in the same war, even if one if them was a conscientious objector because he was fighting his homeland.
>>587438638I want the story to not start with the player nation on the brink of defeat. PW's story is basically a Zero knockoff, but my favorite part of it was watching a conflict escalate from a small scale incident into total global nuclear curry nuke war.
>>587438638We used Stonehenge to kill an AB we did get that super weapon vs super weapon bit
>>587439029That part reminded me of MG REX vs MG RAY in MGS4
>>587439029My fantasy comes from outperforming a strategic asset of such scale, similar to what was explored in 7's DLC with the singularity stuff they had going on.
>>587438865You'll never make it to phase 2 with that attitude.
Why don't they make carrier planes that park vertically using struts around the tail?They'd be able to park a lot more of them on the flight deck like that
>>587439503wat
>>587438865No different than Ustio hiring two Ace-of-Aces caliber pilots or Osea having a squad of them. While Shamrock was the only one who could keep up with Talisman. Its not the first time this has happened.
>>587439503Because that’s dumb.
>>587439503We simply don't have the technology.
>>587438638Someone mentioned it ages ago but it was a shame that we didn't get a mission where we could go wild with the Tonitrus
>>587439503Tail sitters where a failed concept that's why. Only drones have made the idea work out in the last couple of years.
>>587439503Anon, I need you to draw a picture of what you mean. Please, it will be really funny.
>>587438865Eh I still kinda shit on Cope, like how the fuck does this dude see the atrocities Sotoa commits and still ops to just waffle around like he's been doing
>>5874397481950's technology
>>587438971>small scale incidentA territorial uprising is never a small scale thing, especially when they hammer home that the Federation economy is reliant on Cascadian cordium. Also Cascadia's pretty huge, imagine a mid-sized European nation chimping out and militarily declaring itself independent from Brussels and Froggo-Kraut EU gayness.
>>587439503We tried that. It wasn't great.
>>587440067yeah but we don't have the technology to make them good.
>>587439503There's already a high risk of planes going overboard in rough seas, them sitting vertically will just make em always fall over.
>game doesn't load unless you've tabbed over to itIt's like they intentionally designed the menus to be as bad as possible.
>>587439660>No different than Ustio hiring two Ace-of-Aces caliber pilotsPixy was really good but even be admits that Cipher was a league above him. He literally fails to beat a tired Cipher while in a fresh superplane with unknown bullshit.>Osea having a squad of them.lollmaoLRSSG is good (at the very least equivalent to Sol) but Wardog are absolute frauds, Blaze carried them hard.>While Shamrock was the only one who could keep up with TalismanShamrock's a buddy. Wish wingmen in later entries didn't have their aggresiveness and damage turned down.
>>587440085It was small enough that they could hide, and even war hounds like Sicario didn't hear about it for a while.
>>587439921Cope's a silly peacenik but he flies good and seems like a cool dude.
So i played ACAH starts to finish todayIt is bad. I think the worse problem is that during the gameplay (that is something Ace Combat already had nailed) they take out player's agency for 90% of the fucking time.The whole game seems like you are playing the AC7 Mikhail "immortal phase" but you are also stuck in fucking DFM for most of the time.I can't understand how critics rated ACAH above AC0, and i cannot understand why PA still holds it in high regards. I don't even think i want to play it again in Ace diff.
>>587399962>We're getting Trigger skins for all the planesLmao no chance. We didn't even get an F-15 Pixy skin in the F-15 battle pass. Most likely we'll just get a single Trigger skin, maybe two if PA is generous.
>>587439628>>587439908see pic>>587439836>>587440136Why did they fail?>>587440161We have modern weather radars they don't need to go into rough seas
>>587441149>and i cannot understand why PA still holds it in high regardsI don't think they hold it in high regards, Anon. Beyond including the Warwolf emblem in 30th Anniversary related materials, if effectively doesn't exist anymore.
>>587441149Apparently the balancing on Ace is so horrendously fucked that you wouldn't want to go through the game again even if you liked it.
>>587440470Let us remember it was pixy who broke his own TLS after disabling the morgan's G limiter
>>587441184Then why did I find the emblem on the F-14A of all planes? and not the F-16, F-15C, or F-22 The 3 planes Trigger actually did fly.
>>587441281Because landing the damn thing was absolute torture and by the time flight tests really got going, jets were rapidly superseding the Pogo's performance, and helicopters had become practical enough for more utility tasks.
>>587441630Because it's functionally data mined shit that's not in the fucking game yet you retard
>>587441487I played it in Elite. There was some bullshit moments in which you'd insta die if an enemy locked you in DFM from behind, and you literally don't have the time to reverse them\ the double cursors glitches out, you stall without being able to reverse them and they kill you with missles.I found a LOT of bullshit bugs as well. Sometime planes armed with belkan technology would fly underground while i was in DFM and obviously it results in you crashing on the ground. Also i wanted to get the cheevos, and there's one on fucking playing online for 50 hours...>>587441284IIRC there was an article about Kono saying how much they loved the game and it hurts that the community hates it Does anybody know if there's a 100% save somewhere? I want to at least see all the skins
We need better customization or just a free form decal system, i want the wings of sneed decals with a different camo and its not possible to do
>>587441630Because it's a placeholder they forgot to change.
>>587441981Freeform livery editor is never ever gonna happen unfortunately.
>>587441725Then why on that plane and nothing else? If its for place holding seems like a waste of time when 7 just used an existing asset as the place holder In this case it should have just been Rex's first skin as the placeholder image. We all remember the F-16 that had Falken stats until it was added in as DLC
>>587441981You'll never get that due to fears of Nazi flags and maybe even Russian Z flags now too.
>queue for assault>it's the map with not much ground shit>instantly pick attacker>another guy hesitates for 5 seconds and also picks attacker>matchmaking fails>get in another lobby>same map>do the same thing>notice the same guy is on my team again>he does the same thing too>we just compete with each other instead of the other team the entire timeAnd that's why warfare is better than assault
>>587442514Because they never expected anyone to see it and Trigger's emblem, which will certainly be added at some point, was left in on some non-attainable skin. >>587442597That and people will find ways to write "nigger" all over their planes.
>>587442680He was just finishing the weekly anon please understand
>>587441878American humor escape you huh?> Sometime planes armed with belkan technology would fly underground That bug has been around since AC2 its just part of the game.
>>587442763>That bug has been around since AC2 its just part of the game.at least don't put it in a game where you are locked in your movement for 80% of the gameplay
>>587442689I know they didn't intent for it to be seen yet just find it odd its the place holder image.A Trigger skin would be easy. Its why I expect it on all the planes its just 3 lines painted on the tail.I only saw it because of something screwy happening when the game was at version 1.0 and you installed the preorder planes. Update it to 1.01 and it went away while all the Rex skins appeared.
>>587443273Yea, it was just something that got left in the game that wasn't intended. I don't think there's going to be a trigger skin for every plane or something at all. It's likely that he'll get one or two skins and then emblems.
>>587442680At lest it wasn't the one where you have zero ground targets and its all air targets.
>Locked in for the very first time in warfare>actually winning by an inch with 10 seconds left>retarded ass teammates got bagged the 5 secondsFuck me, well at least I know I actually contributed this time by scoring 2nd behind the attacker while the rest of my team does whatever
>>587443943*the last 5 seconds
>>587442680i'd still rather get into drag races with my teammates than play the cortisol supplement that is warfare
The F-16 cockpit view is so nice pilots must love these things
>>587444269It's so open, it's awesome. I'm so glad that the F-16 is actually as good as it should be in-game instead of being stuck in starter plane hell or something.
>>587442474Should at least let me resize existing decals so they're not tiny af on planes. Imagine a decal that takes the entire tail or the wing, would look kino.
>>587444472I love the F-16, I even main it. However:>2AAMat least it also gets QAAMs as a balance to that.
>>587444660You don't ever need the 2AAMs because of the QAAMs anyway.
I wish F-16 also had the standard missle upgrade.
>>587444705Yeah, they are really good, but I would love to have something else as an alternative. Like SAAMs for example, they are fun to mess around with. >>587444472Heres a double Migger kill I want to share https://streamable.com/zs4sp2
>>587445176I'm certain that they got stuck on the F-16 just because they made them and felt like they needed to be on more than a single plane.
>>587443943Somehow I've seen players in Raptors score less than Phantoms. And these are Phantoms with default emblems and skins, so not a cracked veteran.
>>587445561to be fair F4 has UGB, he could just be ground pounding, ground pounders are always the MVP of the match in warfare most of the time
Third playthrough, I just got to Retaking Theve 2 and I'm more and more convinced every time that this is the best mission in the game. It's both story and target heavy, and the night visuals are fantastic.It's a bit of a shame the game peaks so early.
https://youtu.be/oRrKDSC1nTc?is=FWPIQpwY1R4Fpr5Aseems project aces built the 22 fight around infinite flares and limiting it kinda fucked up the whole AI, can mods just revert the changes for it and ladon?
>Jenkins is referred to as bearded man in the intro>The weapons dealer who sold out the Rio Bajo resistance is a bearded manWake the fuck up sheeple
>>587445820The only bad thing about this mission is how long it is and ammo management is a huge problem
>>587445176>water bottleCute >>587445820>best mission in the gameTheve 2 is great but Rocky Island 2 is the best
>>587445983How is that a bad thing?
>>587445820the shadows are too easy two at a time, if you fight all the f-16s at once it's kino
>>587446121I don't need Desert Arrow/Lightning 2.0 experience, if you want me to play a long ass mission have a decency to at least give me a return line
>>587446270Skill issue
>>587445975I see nothing wrong with this, no enemy in the game should have complete immunity to missiles
>>587446005Gameplay wise Rocky Island 2 is really good but visually it's just kind of drab and music isn't as good either.>>587446270I never had ammo issues in there, but I almost always have the standard missle capacity part installed anyway because I don't like using return lines.
>>587445983Use your guns more, I still had 5 missiles left when it was all over and I did it in a 18C
>>587446394they didn't though, just hard to hit kinda like fighting online. also guns shredded them, just wish they were more aggressive I guess no they're too passive
For the mission against the megafloat, what is the consensus on best plane for that mission? The F-18 with the SOD? A-10 with rockets?I can't imagine doing it in something that doesn't have a stall speed below 100.
>>587445975Pre patch the super easy way to win this was>First let Kate get a missile hit on 22 you hear special lines when she does.>You lure 22 into your allies gun range>They gun him down for you.
>>587445975>players will mever get to beat prenerf topkekMy only regret is not getting to style on him with an MGP Phantom on Ace before the nerf. I did it on my first run on Elite, never felt like playing the mission again for bragging rights since I still had all the medal runs to do.
>>587446985just use ugb or sffs fren. fatsia's not complicated.
>>587446985Take anything you want the chain kills are so high a single missile can destroy an entire arm.
>>587446985>A-10 with rocketslol, lmao even. A-10 is probably the worst attacker in every Ace Combat game it's in.
>>587446985anything with SOD, line up the pillar and that's a free platform kill
>>587447039>MGP Phantom on Ace before the nerf.Literally why would it matter? You're using MGP, it's their hard counter
Megafloat is way too easy, it should at least force you to destroy more pillars per arm and have its pseudo-stonehenge create a total killzone above arm height
>>587447648How I'd fix Megafloat is have several smaller megafloats as optional targets for high score runs, and give those megafloats some variance. A farm one, a residential one, one that's an amusement park. Then have a naval fleet that's protecting them, and boom. It's a more epic Fleet Destruction.
>>587447648It's a stress detox mission, just take it already, the next mission ain't so kind anyway
>>587447648I think they were going for catharsis after the double cutscene of Baxter and Kate dying.But I definitely agree it should be harder. I'd love to see a Land Battleship fleet sailing in to flank us
>>587447648Megafloat should have an integral fleet and some Shadows. All you fight are like 3 docked battlecruisers that you can kill with chain attacks.
>>587447648I expected it to be much larger, honestly
Imagine being a Sotoan on the agriculture megafloat.Your military megafloat has been decimanted by only 4 planes and now your whole air force is gone because of a maniac. There's literally nothing you can do if the Terminus Fingers comes for you. You're stuck on a shitty flaoting platform and can't leave.
>>587448217Sounds like a larper problem.
>>587447294She was great on PS2/PSP when she had FAE especially in 6
>>587447648I like that it's a score attack level where I can consistently kill absolutely everything. Makes it more of a time attack. How fast can I do it all? Not too fast or else the target won't appear on the core and I'll waste a pass though.
>>587448217In theory, Yuktobania could have secured air superiority over Sotoa, since even the border patrol squadrons were sent to Cima Island.
The LARP is so strong the capital is nothing but a huge central building surrounded by yurts and lots of grassland. Like they got what got a population of 500?
>>587448802Bombs are dogshit in PS2/PSP games since you don't even know how what hit radius is, doubly so in X since the target marker straight up lies to you, bombs are dogshit in PSP games
>>587449546I think something that PA leaves unsaid (and in that image, really only implied) is there is more than one megafloat. There are probably dozens, maybe even a hundred, agricultural megafloats but the one we see in-game is "the capital Megafloat".
>>587449554Skill issue.
>>587447294It was extremely funny in 6 on lower difficulties where its gun fired like ten times as fast as normal so it instant killed anything. Shit on higher difficulties since it also ran out of ammo instantly, but hilarious on lower ones with infinite.
>>587447987Yea they hyped it up by having it shoot railguns at you in a previous mission, but apparently you can just fly up to it no problemo? Wet flop of a level really.
>>587449546It's not as flat as it looks. There's probably lots of infrastructure including housing in the submerged sections
>>587407563Funny thing is that the writer actually DID want to put it in Strangereal, but PA was adamant on it being IRL for some reason.
>>587449870>but apparently you can just fly up to it no problemo?it's a Joker squad upscale
>>587419516At least with the last part is was legitimately a suicide mission for Markov and his boys. All they wanted was to bring the war home and get Trinity to Washington, there was no plan for return.
>>587449806Sota had 2 megafloats that one and the one we sink and no more.>>587449890Yeah it does one of the LL guys opens an icecream shop on the megafloat. From the sky view all you can see are the yurts and these "people" are dumb enough to do something like that. Makes for a good laugh at least
>>587450637>Sota had 2 megafloats that one and the one we sink and no more.Sauce? Is it Aces at War?
>>587422104Almost every Trinity detonation in the game is a premature blast. When it actually works correctly, it absolutely hits with the force of a tactical nuke.Which of course leaves us wondering just why they would develop such a thing when its use would justify nuclear retaliation anyway.
I was hoping for some missions inside the megafloat like in AC3
>>587423230Then have the A and C models in the game together. We have two Super Hornets, a bunch of Flankers, three Eagles...
>>587449850>lower difficultiesYou lot me buddy, I'm sorry. I only play Ace Combat games on Ace, or whatever difficulties I need to unlock Ace. The entire series feels like it was balanced around Hard (in the PS2 titles) or Ace, so I don't bother with anything but that. To go for the retarded ball 'n gun analogy, it's like playing Halo on anything lower than Heroic; I don't consider journo or storygame difficulties real.
>>587449806>ultra technological megafloat living people>they still larp as steppe nomadsI see why cope was so mad his soul refused to move on
All of the planes in the campaign should have been carrier capable variants.Playing some missions for the first time is almost like playing PW and trying to only fly two seaters. Desperately needed euro carrier fighters and soviet carrier fighters. No, I don't care if they're dogshit.
>>587450880>(in the PS2 titles)*in the PS1 titles, fuck me. Those didn't have anything higher than that. My 'tism just doesn't let me enjoy things when I know the Devs have given me bowling bumpers or pity points from the start.
>>587451000Blame europoverty for this, all they could add is the yak-141 and the harrier
VTOL will never ever ever be a thing even though we have a landing gear button now so they could just use that for it
>>587451319What does France fly on its carrier?
>>587451407did you forget that the ravioli is in game?https://acecombat.wiki.gg/wiki/Rafale_M
>>587451531I guess I did.
>>587451407hon hon hon
>>587451565its fairly nimble and has LAAMs and LACMs so you can play the whole campaign with it
>>587451319Yak38 was a (shitty) thing
>>587451668What does SEGS even stand for?
>>587419480Gunpod looks ugly but it means you don't get gun delay so it's technically a good thing.Also the abilities/specials aren't that bad. At least it gets air damage, holy shit I hate it when multiroles don't get air damage. Actually it gets two air damage for some strange reason.
kono pls
>>587451781Honestly the Mirage and Legacy Bug are just asking for an anti-ground ability. 4AAMs are fucking shit and UGBs/LASMs are basically screaming for then to larp as Attackers, just give them the ability so they can get through high level Heavy Howitzers in a reasonable time.
>>587451759Savian Expeditionary Guerilla Squadron
>>587452221Do you think some of the Alicorn crew that quit end up as Savians?
>>587452062Right screams>GOD LEFT ME UNFINISHED
Are LACMs not good in MP or something? That should at least be enough to make the F-35 viable.>>587420359Or bring this camo back from 5, I love this design. On the bright side the Joker liveries look good on the standard skin.
>>587452480No, they were a death cult. Everyone was all in on Matty's wild ride
>>587452067The crazy thing is Hornet gets UGBs and a UGB ability, except... it's the bad UGB ability. Instead of the ability that makes them better like a bunch of other planes get it gets one that makes them worse.
>>587452593They're a good weapon but not as good as UGB or SFFS
>>587452740Shame 8AGMs are fucking garbage though.
ANON! I'VE HEARD YOU'VE YET TO WRITE WILL!>I'm a kissless handholdless eyecontactless chud trucel, sirPERFECT! YOU SHALL BE A PART OF OUR PLAN FOR SALVATION! GO DIE!
>>587452830They're okay if you switch to them and launch quickly before any double locks get going.Now that I think about it I wonder if the F-35 might be able to specialize as a navy killer.LACM to clear the extra guns and deal a chunk of damage, then you can pump MSL and 8AGM all into the main health bar.Definitely overkill on level 1, but maybe useful on level 3?Maybe if we get a naval Warfare map in the future with no or minimal ground targets, where the navy is the one that spawns in waves instead
>>587450679This is why you don't skip cutscenes or put your phone down and pay attention they tell you during the news how many were built.
>>587452593>MPProblem is that LACMs aren't on any attackers, and 8 has class specific damage multipliers against targets. Enemies in Warfare can be quite tanky and the Stars points multipliers promotes a single Attacker destroying as many ground targets as possible, and even if Attackers didn't have the damage multiple LACMs and other air to ground missiles lack the magazine depth to map clear reliably. LACMs are super useful in Assault because the multiplier is much less relevant there and ranged weapons are king because every player's fighting for the same limited njmber of tsrgets.
>>587452593They're okay, not that great. The main problem is there's no way to buff the explosion range. Everyone loves UGB, but when we talk about UGB we're talking about UGBs with the ability and parts. Unbuffed UGB is nowhere near as impressive, and that's basically what LACM is. With better damage on a direct hit and guidance, obviously, but the explosion size isn't great. And the reload is very bad too.>>5874528308AGM is a lot better now that you can take two specials. You use LACM as your main thing and every half a minute you switch to 8AGM and spam at a group. Much better when you can rely on something else and have it as a bonus.
>>587453117It will never outnavykill F-2
I want it.
>>587453319F-2 lives in constant fear of Project Aces adding a higher-tier Attacker with LASMs. Su-34 already mogs it performance and UGBL wise, LASMs are all she has left.
>>587453850Wait till the F-35 gets a CAS variant.
>>587453290IIRC, Attackers don't get a damage buff against naval targets. Fighters still get a damage penalty, but Attackers hit ships just as hard as Multiroles and EW. Yes, it's silly.
>DOOR STUCK>DOOR STUCK>PLEASE>I BEG YOU>WE'RE DEAD
>>587453850They did but will do it again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoFaaQSSKkEThis is a really nice cover
>>587454129I COULD EXERCISE YOUI COULD BE YOUR PHYS ED
>>587453850>Project Aces adding a higher-tier Attacker with LASMsNever going to happen
>warfare>people are still picking fuckass F-2 or Su-25When will people get the memo that only Su-34 and F-15E are usable?
>>587454964>warfare>people still care about winningIt's not like the rewards change, even meaningfully.
>>587455065you wouldn't want a shameful online record
>>587455287having cool epeen won't bring you fulfilment in life, buddy
>>587454964I'd take F-2 over Su-34 for maps with ships even if it does fly a little worse. UGB explosions aren't as big as UGBL but they're still good enough most of the time.
>>587454964I'll keep taking my A-6 to Fort Grays warfare and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>587455287I'm ready to be judged
>>587455287Who cares, ACEO is already dying, will it even make it to 2026+1?In our microcosm of AC autists, do we even have 10 people getting their goldprints daily?
>>587455952Doubtful
>>587455912>playing Assault/Warfare more than once a dayWhat is MAXIMUM THREATS, and how does a record like that still only have 3?
>>587455952It will last a year, all the content and battle passes are already pretty much made.
>>587456131I have no ideaAt first I thought it was 3 blue stars, but I've killed some and checked afterwards and it stayed at 3 kills.It's also not as simple as 3 regular stars because everyone gets that at the start of every Warfare match farming NPCs.It's not ending the match with 3 stars either, especially since there's already a medal that tracks that.And yet I completed the "maximize threat 3 times" event challenge and nothing changed stats-wise
>>587445975That's a little sad, sure 22 and his shitbird brigade were a bit of a ballache to fight, especially at the end of a long mission you couldn't brute force your way to the end of, but part of me enjoyed pushing my shit to the limit to keep up with the nonsense for the s-rank. (especially with the music)But now it seems like a complete swing in the other direction to the point it's tone to win? haven't tested so can't say but the video make it looks way too simple.
They really phoned it in with the ace spawning conditions40% just play the mission and you'll get it40% play the mission but good20% actually something interestingIf it were like Zero with multiple every mission I wouldn't have noticed this probably
>>587457342Play the mission but good is how they should spawn anyway, with the occasional novelty ones.
I noticed something on chandelier, why the fuck are the NPC Mig-31s in that map so jittery? They're moving as fast as a UAV. I thought they're flying bricks, all speed no turning
>>587435052Use Parts Overdrive mod to boost parts that increase ammo count bonuses. It basically fuses all ammo bonus parts into one to save slots.
These Gelb fellas are Yellow 13 and Yellow 4 but gay and Belkan...
>>587458521PA fucked up the stats and made the Mig-31 a dogfighter while having a lower sustained speed than the Su-34.
>>587458953even the NPC stats got fucked up? Isn't this intentional at this point?
>>587450883I call it the Wakanda Effect. Sotoans seem to be a mix of Mongols, Bedouin, and Comanche and all of them have a history of militarism and spirituality based on naturalism.
Ok what if AH but it's Yuktobania vs Osea with no DFM
Cope kinda looks like Zyzz if he were alive today.
>>587459403Yuke vs Verusa and you have a deal, we don't need AC5 2
Didn't keep up with patch notes, did they fix the crashes? Jensen Huang's Chinese spyware keeps popping this window up telling me to update the driver when I launch AC8 now. And the thing is it only happens with AC8.
>>587459467This but Sotoa
>>587459526that's for AC0 2, I want to know why is Verusa so small despite having the entire continent named after it
>>587456395It's killing 3 stars while 3 stars and ending with 3 stars.
https://x.com/cloaker989/status/2120095179222782251?a=HtnDEjQkW7M9YK1zd2I&s=19
>>587458935Based.
>>587459785It's not. Do you really think that >>587455912 only has three three star finishes out of 479 games and 134 MVPs?
Saw a familiar face today, thought it was funny
HUDはJ-20の形状をベースにしています。ソトアの技術が寄せ集めであること3人符視点や出撃の際はHUDグラスがあったほうが社間機の顔になる最新設機グラス遵下の手前側にせり出したコことで計器周りに表情を与えるお側にせり出したコンソールユニットが能を落とすという理由からです。FA-36 cockpit design is primarily a hybrid of the J-20/F-35 cockpits.J-20 HUD unit, F-35 side stick and MFDs.
>>587461691very similar to the F-35 cockpit in general
>>587458810>using mods to complete your medal runsI didn't expect stolen valor on armistice day of all days.
>>587461665>Tasha already exists in sloppaElectrosphere talks of this
>>587463326>Simon could've deepfaked a 3D avatar and trained an AI to create his perfect Martha waifu>instead trains a murderbot to kill Martha's one true loveSome parts of Electrosphere get funnier with time.
>>587442597The armored core folks let players have custom decals. You had to use their autistic editor to make them, and apply 9000 hours of japanese clipart sorcery to make anything neat, but you could make a lot of nice custom stuff.
>>587461665AI hit the third world like crack in Black neighbourhoods back in the eighties.
>>587442680>queue for assault>don't look at the map>instalock SAAM/bomb berkutit's THAT easy.
>>587463818based and literally me pilled
>>587455287Why would I EVER care about warfare when the game can put me alongside teammates that have never looked at their maps and opponents that pay attention to pings to dogpile the same target? No, I don't want to cheese the TLS every flight.
>>587461691My greatest hope is that they put Idolmaster skins in the game and then specifically put China on the FA-36. That'd be so fucking funny to me.
how do you use EW aircraft?I just started using the ea-36 and im not really sure how your supposed to get points with this thing.
>>587458935suppose for a moment that I don't read baka desu runeswhat does this say?
>>587414047This is just Fenrir's spw
>>587466169You're not gonna get MVP with an EW plane, let's get that out of the way first.But basically you fly near your team's fighters, and once they engage you pop your ESM/IEWS to buff the shit out of their missiles, and get points for every assist.
>>587467194>on his days off, Toprak spends his free time playing the new flight sim game "Tonitrus Option"
Any chances that online will be "alive" until ac9 releases sometimr in 2032?
>>587467394You will get 1+7bots emergencies and you will be happy.
>>587466169EW was giga-nerfed in the balance patch. The uptime is much worse than before.
>>587360575your containment thread is over there shartmyafag
>>587466812Could the shockwave missile one shot Megafloat Fatsia?
>>587467870>Xsure>X2, InfinityLol
>>587467070how much does it usually give you for assists with it because I dont recall it being that much, Ive been using it more as an attacker since I can get more kills against ground than air targets during its duration.
>>587467652I definitely see it, I can get maybe 3 kills with it maybe more if their all lined up nice which rarely happens
They should've just nerfed the active time, they don't need to nerf the reload, now EW craft literally has nothing to do but fly around until their cooldown is over.
>>587468237The reload is the same, since it starts from when you activate the SpW. It's just the shorter active time also increases the effective downtime unless you co-ordinate with a second EW pilot. Honestly I think it would be fair to add 3 seconds to the uptime OR reduce the reload by 5 seconds.
>>587468389I'd take reload reduction, at least that makes ammo management a thing, right now I don't think it's even possible to run out of IEWS/ECM/ESM ammo
>>587468432I agree, if they bring the reload time down to account for the shorter time and give us a few more charges It would be fine.
>>587468432>I don't think it's even possible to run out of IEWS/ECM/ESM ammoMaybe if you take a Lv1 EW aircraft into an Emergency Sortie, or you immediately crash on purpose as soon as the uptime ends to reset the reload time.
>>587467394We played infinity and that had fuel, there are plenty of us who will do it as long as they put new shit out.
>>587468556>or you immediately crash on purpose as soon as the uptime ends to reset the reload time.I'll use this tech next time I decided to raise my EA36 thanks
>>587468615I think the fuel thing masked how monotone the whole game is, which makes it harder for people to get bored, meanwhile this is just game after game until you go mad
>>587453079The Alicorn really was a what if anons got ahold of a Strangereal superweapon plot.>>587454606If only she had the intelligence to do pic related.
>>587467798Fuck you pal I'll bring in whoever the fuck I want
>>587468681You can just moderate your own playing to how much is fun
>>587469274honestly at this point I'm just filling the 10 gold mats quota daily
>>587469476That will take a while soon
>>587469476I just assume they'll throw mats at us when the time comes, right now they just don't want everyone to be swimming in them. So I don't even worry about that.
>>587469673>I just assume they'll throw mats at us when the time comes, right now they just don't want everyone to be swimming in them. So I don't even worry about that.its p obvious they pushed this out before it was fully complete, what with 60 percent of the lobby hangar being interactive NPC merchants with nothing in them besides some fluff text
>>587469783At least we got cipher serving drinks
what is the DUMBEST plane ever made?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OClGUOI30k
I really fucking do hope that they focus on making the PvE better since I think that the PvP experience is a tremendous fucking waste of time. The missiles are practically fucking worthless if the opponent has a pulse, and going for gun kills is so frustrating with this netcode and the way that people at speed can just sort of shift dozens of meters in an eyeblink. It doesn't feel like there's any significant skill expression at play. It's more like which team can dogpile better and spam enough shit at the wall until something sticks.
>>587470676Give A Fuck - 01
>>587470759peak
>>587470845>The missiles are practically fucking worthless if the opponent has a pulseDon't underestimate wingman lock support missiles, I actually caught some bodies with it, the speed and homing buff is handy
>>587469476>>587469593I'm getting 9 a day (not worth finding an extra emergency for the last one) and that's it. Probably going to stop playing until next season once the emergency chance goes back to normal. Not sure I'll come back next season either for that matter.
>>587470938That's partly what I was trying to say. The dogpiling. The focus bonuses do a lot. But when your teammates never look at their map, don't know what that ping is, and are busy trying to hunt Ah-64s or steal ground kills from the attacker, then most of the missiles feel completely fucking useless if the opponent isn't completely AFK.It just feels like a silly slap fight compared to fights in nuclear option or war thunder. Both ye-olde gunfights and missile fights.
>>587471127I wasn't even able to get a full scramble to fire earlier tonight. We played with a CPU as our 4th man.
>FCU flag has seven stars>Osean flag also has seven starsCOINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT
>>587470858This thing?Other than looking like a dollar store amalgam of an F-18, F-2 and Rafale why is it dumb?
>chandelier bugged, core won't appear a second timeI was only going to get 1 gold blueprint from that sortie no matter what, but what a fucking waste for everyone else.
>>587472383So does Erusea
>>587454606>both the guards and other prisoners are going to be giving you the "wtf are you stupid?" look for rushing into a warzone with little to no practical experiencewould've shipped the lil retard to Cossette to be a space elevator farm hand.
>>587472489things you are missing:honorpridelife
>>587474250MY HONORMY PRIDEMY LIFEEEE
>>587472489>COCK AFB
>>587475974Infinity had a bunch of stupid meme instant radio messages so you could actually say that while you were playing if you wanted. I wish AC8 had them too.People always somehow (how?) manage to get killed by nimbus missiles at the start of Arsenal Bird and I really miss the ability to say "Oh! Jean-Louis's been hit!" every time.
>>587476716>People always somehow (how?) manage to get killed by nimbus missiles at the start of Arsenal Bird and I really miss the ability to say "Oh! Jean-Louis's been hit!" every time.
>>587476716Worse, someone grabbed the AC3 line of Keith laughing>Ahaha hahahahaha>You have been removed from the room
>warfare>artiglio port>three fighters and an attacker>i'm the only fighter who goes to engage the enemy team, the other two flit around uselessly shooting down the scant AI planes and then start groundpoundingaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>587476716How in the actual fuck? You just need to pitch up/down slightly at the start.
>>587478225maybe it's jank but i've been killed while flying at 80m above the sea by them before
>>587478225I don't know, man. Even if you don't do that it's still incredibly easy to not fly into the red circles on the radar, but somehow I usually see at least one person die.I guess it might partially be because the countdown the woman gives on the radio is incredibly off but that should only catch people once.
>>587478314I got clipped at 15 meters yesterdaynow I make a point of going sub 10 hoping that clears it
>>587478314>>587478646It's random as all hell, i was flying wing to wing with someone at sea level earlier and he died and I didn't
>>587478314>>587478646Maybe below of the explosion is just jank, I have never been clipped at over 3000m
>>587478216Every fucking time.
emergency sortie: MORGAN when?i want to see people getting swept away by TLS and burst missilesthough, i suppose like alicorn, it won't be the same without Pixy there
>>587479184Sounds like a shit idea. Morgan is a good fight because it's designed like a duel, adding more players just muddles the experience and most likely gets him ganked.
>>587479470what if it was Gault Team with Morgans instead of Berkuts
>>587480203Isn't that just scramble but with less variety?Then again, scramble isn't very good, so maybe reworking it to be less bad and then making it an emergency type would be an improvement.
>>587478216>>587479150>Fort Grays Warfare>Enemy Su-57 players are at 40k~50k each>Allied Su-57 players barely clear 10k eachEveryFuckingTime
>>587480393>Feel like Warfare match is going really good>Got bunch of player kills, saved teams attackers butt few times>Match ends, lose by 100k pointa>Teams attacker 30k points, enemy attacker 150k pointsMaybe I should play team deathmatch instead.
>>587466218These are literal translations so they might read awkwardly. My JP skills are middling.>まるで(つがいの鳥)だぜ / こうまで合わせてくる連中は初めてだThey’re like a (mated pair of birds). It’s the first time I’ve seen guys coordinate to this extent.>(お互いの呼吸)がよくわかっているThey understand (each other’s breathing/rhythms) very well.>番のカワウ / つがいのカワウPair of Cormorants or Coupled Cormorants (as seen on the Ace Wiki). つがい translates into pair; mates (esp. animals like birds).> 2機の編隊構成は当時のベルカ空軍の中においては非常に珍しいものではあったが、これは彼らの連携による効果が、通常の編隊構成による小隊の戦力を大きく上回っていたことをベルカ空軍が客観的に受け止めていたことと、空軍組織が特殊な構成を受け入れることのできる柔軟性を備えていた為に他ならない。This snippet from Belkan Air Power talks about how rare a two plane composition was in the Belkan Air Force at that time + why an exception was made for the Gelb Team. The full translation of this can be read on Encycstra.
>>587485876>>587485876>>587485876
