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>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcast
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-november-2/2360696/10

>Talent Calculator
https://wowforevertalents.com/

>NA Guilds
<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance
<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance
<You Have To Go Back> PvP Horde
<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance
<GLOBOFOMO> RP-PvE Horde
<Mulgore Dairy Farmers> PvE Horde

>EU Guilds
<Breeland Watch> PvP Horde
<Wrench> PvE Horde
<FRESH> PvP Alliance

>How to join a guild
Type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who is online and whisper anyone.

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Alliance PvP
>no one talks to each other
>party groups are silent and full of actual down syndrome players
>will deny you an invite to any kill quest, even if it has 0 quest drops
>will steal your tags for no reason on those same kill quests after you tried to invite them/requested to join their group
>run away from pvp 90% of the time
>literal "muh honorabu dueru" redditors who won't kill a horde if it's not a 1v1, even if that horde has been terrorizing the zone for the last hour in a full group of 10
>keyboard turners
>clickers
>healers that stand afk more often than not in both dungeons and when horde are jumping us
>millions of hybrids refusing to do anything but dps
>general and trade chats are spammed non-stop with politics and twitch streamer slop
I'm starting to fucking despise my friend who spent weeks leading up to launch whining about how he has to play alliance and "alliance is actually where a lot of good players are now" and "horde is full of furries and gays."

Every single time I log in, it's just subhuman iq retards who are obsessed with e-celebrities, geriatric dad gamers, and literal niggers. I hate this faction.
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https://youtu.be/H0FYuhI6vqU?si=UGmoV3dU_M90IvZo
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Alliance
NA
PvP
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How do I find a good guild? Do I need to join server discords? Do I need to search forums?
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>>587470409
I just found a bag already at level 2.
It's a sign.
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Why don't people who just sit in the thread and spam their doomer takes just quit?
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>>587470409
make the guild
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>>587470401
horde are worse, because its all the same shit, but they think they are good because their pvp zerg is more dominant and abusive
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I kinda wanna stay guildless because I like the grey tabard
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>>587470409
Same
>>587470417
This character has the same interests as picrel
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My female night elf rogue needs an alliance wife...
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People actually use the HD models?
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>>587470409
Why can't 4chan just unfuck this anyway?
This whole shit started because trannies thought Asmon and Shitlympus would be in Alliance PvP. But he got harassed so much he ran away to PvE.

A huge Alliance push can get the roach to come out and get a foothold
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>>587470467
I already did. Doesn't stop me from rightfully complaining about blizzard's incompetence.
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>>587470401
That's both PvP servers except Horde is worse because it has third world mentality even on PvE.
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Anyone RP-PVE who wants to play hide and seek in Stormwind? We are 50 so far
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Thoughts?
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>>587470401
>party groups are silent and full of actual down syndrome players
We've been talking plenty in my groups but dear god it takes fucking forever for me to get into one, they can have only a single dps and I whisper saying "need a dps?" and they just don't respond
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Dawn the final day. How dead will the game be when the 7 day code expires?
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>>587470561
Night elf/10

All night elves are queens...
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>>587470561
Boring
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>>587470561
AGP/10
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>>587470401
the things you listed are a forever problem in general and not limited to alliance pvp players
idk if it's social media brainrot or what, but this is the worst community I have seen in any version of wow ever
sometimes I wonder if the players I encounter are badly malfunctioning bots because they barely act like real people
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>nooo you cant have fun the server is gonna die nooo
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>>587470561
nice tits
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Are the only new recipes from the waylaid crates? Or is there new recipes from profession trainers too? What's a good resource to see the new shit?
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>>587470567
nobody needs a dpsnigger
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>hd models
>yet 95% of all mob models are SD upscaled
why
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Does literally anyone believe blizzard's 55:45 number? You would have to be gullible beyond belief to think that's legit.
The fact that they felt the need to address the pvp imbalance means they see it as a major problem, and I doubt they would do that if it was as minor as that. The census data shows 60:40 and I'm certain it's at least that and probably worse.
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>>587470604
they do in fact need 3
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>>587470502
People have no taste, pray they don’t remove the sd models.
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>>587470502
i'm using HD models as a human because the helmets are fucked in SD
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>>587469906
I wanted to play PVP cause I've never gotten to before. I wanted like 55/45 or 45/55 at most, just out of pragmatism, like I'm not a player who wants to be part of a 5 man ganksquad of fucking ni...-Green Tyrones.

Also, I don't even consider myself a "Horde" player, I'm a Forsaken player motherfucker. I've never played Alliance literally ever, either. This go around might be my first time. See, the undead goth shit of Forsaken make their areas interesting and makes up for the "underlying" artstyle. Alliance on the other hand is everything bad about WoW's art design. I don't want my home to be fucking "BLIZZARD WORLD" from Overwatch.

desu... I kinda hate Orcs, male trolls and female troll feet, hate gnomes (except for fucking), hate dwarves...
undead, female night elves, skyborne, gobbos...

Yep, pretty much exclusively gonna play Forsaken and Skyborne. Might try female Night Elf and Troll, MIGHT try a male Tauren and probably not go very far with any of them.
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if Alexensual and his fans play alliance they can single handedly fix faction imbalance. why doesn't he do that
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finished my gnomeregan all quests run :)
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>>587470502
I like the HD models more. I understand there's a lot of love for the older models so its nice they have the toggle for both crowds
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>>587470630
those spots are reserved for guildies, spec holy if you want an invite lil chump
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>>587470619
they already lied about the 60% dungeon xp thing
I wouldn't put it past them lying about the imbalance out of fear of scaring potential alliance players away even more
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>>587470619
It's more like 58:42 but it's based on characters created not people playing at once. By that metric it's closer to 70:30
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>noo i can't level another character to play w/ my """"friends"" it's just impossible ugh i'm so lazy
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>>587470417
>How do I find a good guild
Just join < D Y N A S T Y> like a good hipster
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Undead should've been neutral(hostile to all)
Skyborne should be Ally
High elves should be Ally
Blood Elves should be Ally
Add pandas and goblins to neutral(neutral)
Add ogres and gnolls to horde
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>>587470619
55/45 is still too bad. It needs to be as close to 50/50 as possible. 10% difference is already bad.
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Will a tauren warrior get invited to guilds and raids despite having worse racials than orc and troll?
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>>587470710
I think most polls should just be characters level 10+
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>shadowmeld is no longer a combat drop in pve, but a faggy priest fade

blizzard niggers tongue my anus
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>>587470715
Yeah, it is in fact impossible. The game wont allow it. Retard
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>>587470687
THEN JUST SAY THEY'RE RESERVED INSTEAD OF NOT RESPONDING. I'll just say "ok cool" and not message them again
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>>587470743
you don't see any problem with alliance having four elf races and three of them being the exact same model?
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>>587470470
yeah make the guild!
...not me though, i don't have what it takes to lead a guild, i hope you weren't telling me to make it
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harvested like 5 yellow herbs and 10+ green ones and no skillups, the heck is going on? no I'm not capped
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>horde pve
>nobody talks
>people actively avoid grouping for kill/named mob item (x's head, etc) quests
>invites rejected

what the fuck is going on
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>>587470790
No. I love Elves despite being a massive Human supremacist.
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>get my own shard
>quest through redridge without competing for mobs
>fill bag with briarthorn and swiftthistle while im at it
>comfy
so this is wow forever...
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>>587470760
Horde has to be a bit more populated because otherwise it’s not a horde imo
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>>587470765
You can be the designated summon cuck who runs out to summon with your plainsrunning
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>>587470665
Same, goddamn these pants feel nice
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>>587470790
I dont think you understand how us elf autists work
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>>587470760
55/45 is a 22 % difference, a 10 % difference is absolutely fine
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>>587470760
I agree it's bad but I don't think anyone's experience has been having 5 alliance and 6 horde in a zone as those numbers would suggest. Every 30+ zone I have been to spanning multiple days has been easily 10x the number of horde than alliance, in many cases I was literally the only alliance player surrounded by dozens of horde.

How do you explain that if it really is 55:45? It's not just me reporting this either, people are describing similar experiences all over the place and it's even been directly documented by some of the streamers.
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>>587470502
Yes and they will call you weird if you use the models that actually fit the rest of the fucking world
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Lore masters how would a Sally X Anduin relationship work out onegai >>587470092
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THESE <Anduin The Best I Can> NIGGAS CHEATING ON HIDE AND SEEK
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>>587470928
It wouldn't cause shes dead
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>>587470808
this is happening across every ruleset and faction
I suspect there are a lot more zoomers playing this than people suspect
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>>587470928
my wife
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bros my hunter goes oom after every pull
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>>587470808
The tryhards returned in droves.
Just wait them out. After 1-2 weeks all the streamers would fuck off to GTA6
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>Random party member starts talking about streamers mid dungeon unprompted
Stfu about streamers you pathetic little shits.
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>>587470798
i am not gonna make it
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>as a Mage or Warlock you need BIS dungeon and then raid gear to do the same amount of damage with spells as an equivalent naked caster of your level would do in classic

There's no way this won't get fixed right?
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>>587470909
How do you explain it’s not just your confirmation bias
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>>587470978
arcane shot was patched to actually cost mana
sorry, you need to learn how to play your class now
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so how does wrack work now? does it double your dot damage and keep same duration or what? does it HALVE the tick damage?
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why do sealed apprentice crates only give 5 fucking merchants favor, thats bullshit
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Agility int gear is BIS for mm hunter right?
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>when a paladin is asked to heal
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>>587470787
Confession time,
I wanted to type "sorry we're full" to a guy asking to join (he even typed please).
However my keyboard was set to US for hotkeys and I can only type in Dvorak.

So it looked like we just ignored him.
Sorry fren, I'll remap the keybinds eventually
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>>587470808
what region
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all of these people complaining about balance are all pussies lol. All it means is just more Horde troons to kill for me.
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>>587470995
We need to guillotine all streamers
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Should my priest be a gnome or a night elf?
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>>587470978
>>587471028
it uses less mana
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is it the last day of oneweekcoders?
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ret paladin
unkillable
yet boring rotation
give us 1-2 buttons to press man
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So...Shaman can windfury totem off their windfury weapon now?
Is that why everything else was nerfed into the ground?
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Does big p pvp still exist? Im surprised they didnt get some raid pvp groups going. On nightslayer they used to zerg horde groups with sapper charges and own the horde despite the faction imbalance. Did they go horde or something?
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I used hate the normies screaming about GTA 6, now I can't wait so maybe they'll fuck off and leave wow to the neckbeards.
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>>587471062
Yes, falcon sets and whatever you need as a melee weapon to max agi and int.
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Shaman bros...

How are we feeling?
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>>587471101
Night Elf
Starshards is so broken it outperforms mind flay all the way until lvl 60 just to give you an example
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>>587470808
NA or EU?
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>>587471180
Nerfd and rerolling to hunter
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>>587470957
Yes but hypothetically if she wasn't (pre-sm)
>>587470974
Erm...she ...does stuff with human boys ...yjk
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>>587470808
Same experience on EU horde.
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>>587471134
muh dps budget
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>can't get invites
>no one talks to me
>other players reject my invites
>this game sucks
>no one wants to play together anymore

i don't understand why everyone is so antisocial, anyway if anons want to play my username is Raypin Wimin
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>>587471101
Gnome, they're sexier and nelf leveling zones suck
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I'm 33 and there's still nothing, do they seriously make you wait until 35 before you can even start Riverglades?
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>>587471134
That's what I got from it. Took away a lot of creativity now it seems like it will be a spin to win class.
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>>587471216
>Yes but hypothetically if she wasn't (pre-sm)
He's like six or something
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So why DO rogues put up with this treatment from blizzard?
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>>587471251
you probably have a really stupid and annoying name
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>have 8/10 bear asses or whatever
>join group
>someone only has 1/10 bear asses.

yep gonna be here for a while.
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I hope you guys enjoy 6 months to a full year of Shaman and Paladin being massively superior to all other classes in nearly all roles. Due to the class distribution, Blizzard will not actually nerf them (see, the recent Shaman "nerf" that did nothing) to avoid angering the FOTM babbies. They might even nerf other classes at random to try and make the FOTMers feel better about themselves.
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>>587471285
YES BUT WHAT IF HE WAS SIXTEEN I know it's a lot of ifs but in the ideal scenario...what happens?
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I got memed into blacksmithing by all the people saying crafting gear is so heckin' good and overpowered.
It's still shit. In fact it's barely changed from vanilla. The only recipe of note I have seen is the blue belt you can't use until level 30.

Should have gone herb/skinning like I always do. Now I have dumped a ton of time and money into a shit prof that I could have used for a mount.
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>>587470808
>na pve alliance
>people always talking
>people grouping up and buffing each other
>having a good time
sure the trade chat/general chat in stormwind is fucking cringe and annoying as hell but otherwise it's been a 10/10 experience
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>>587471303
???
What level are you? Because all my issues disappeared as soon as I got Shank
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do you guys think it'd be worth to go herb to make healing potions
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I can't stop laughing that in 2026 I can do this on the subway
(instead of the bullshit the people in front of me are doing)
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>>587471251
If blizzard made quest drops party wide it'd actually incentivize grouping. The way the game is constructed is actually antithetical to group play.

Xp shares and people stealing drops.

Think about this being solo is 1x time
Dual players isnt 2x but more like 2.5-3x time as the drops are them split and people both need to roll to be the one who can loot and two get the drop.
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>>587471352
Shank isn't making your class relevant in any content cuckboy
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>>587470808
I'm EU and I've had a much better experience on alliance, one time I requested and inv slightly too late for a named mob and the guy apologised in chat for being too slow to accept it. This never happened on horde where everyone was autistic and antisocial, regusing to type and disbanding groups on a whim.
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>>587471281
So from
>Stromstrike chunks you and windfury rips away another 40%
to
>Stormstrike hits yo u and windfury rips away another 40% proccing another windfury for 20%
And none of them pick malestrom weapon now, I guess? I'm not sure .
Super cool blizz
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>>587471361
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>>587471306
no, it's a play on my first name (Ray) and a tribute to my grandpappy Hayden Wimin
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>>587471382
I have no idea why they didn't make quest drops shared. Seems directly contradictory to everything they are supposedly trying to do with this.
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>>587471338
Don’t corner my market but herbalism and alchemy is good
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Why are the crafting faces so retarded on all HD races?
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>>587471043
>so how does wrack work now?
your dots deal damage at double the speed while casting wrack
>does it double your dot damage and keep same duration or what?
yes basically
>does it HALVE the tick damage?
no it doesn't affect tick damage or dot duration at all. there are no negative side effects on your dots from casting wrack
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>>587471372
based
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>>587471096
Youtube video of slaughtering horde in PVP zones set to 2000s grunge rock when?

I need you to avenge my dungeon groups anon. Nothing but total Horde bitching will do
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>>587471396
It immediately fixes the issue where I have this massive gap time of not being able to push any buttons due to energy regen.
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>>587470349
GUYS, HELP!
HOW DO I MAKE MY UI LOOK THIS CLEAN?
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>>587471457
Why are monster models all upscaled SD models
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>>587471372
That dude is either really trying to look smug or seething his soul out
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>>587471226
>>587471401
That's no surprise. EU Horde is full of eastern europeans and they see being sociable as a sign of weakness and homosexuality.
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>>587471372
i didn't know they had public transit in the hidden leaf village
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>>587471431
Yup it’s retarded
If you have a 5 man group all with 0/10 bear asses you need to kill at least 50 bears assuming they all drop asses (which of course they don’t)
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>>587471491
Why does reddit shill me an app for browsing when I am on PC?
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>>587470401
Everyone complaining about the community is completely outing themselves as social retards because the game uses social media algorithms to group you with similar people.
If all the people you meet are retarded, then you're retarded.
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>>587471490
that isn't what skiggers look like
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>>587471458
huh sounds like a buff
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Where to level as a 32 ally hunter?
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>>587471490
h-holy fuck......
a gen to dethrone loli-whitemane?
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>>587471553
Dalaran
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>>587471431
There's also stuff like xp shares. Which isnt whined enough about. Cause when you group the mob xp is then split meaning you'd need double the kills to level which throws you off from the naturally leveling curve.

Despite advertising as a more social wow they didnt address some of the core reasons group play is bad.
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>>587471372
god they are so performative
>omg honey i love you so much!!! i am so glad i have a husband and kids!!! i am so important to society!! i am loved and i belong!
makes me SICK
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>>587471514
I did mainly see Polish and Russian names. Alliance is mostly scandis.
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>>587471553
new areas give lot of xp
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>>587471580
Nta but I'm about to do Dal, how is it?
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so what do warriors do so well that makes up for them being useless dogshit at everything but that supposed thing they do well which I am not aware of?
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>>587471538
Questions upon questions that need answering
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>>587471626
uhh they can tank
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>>587471524
Its way more than that cause again youre not JUST hoping for a drop, you're hoping the people who NEED the drop are getting the drop and not someone who already has all theirs
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>>587470417
just join a normie guild, hide your powerlevel, and build it up from there
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>>587471621
Just boss stomping.
Horde shitters camp the area though
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>>587471372
What is this thing? What are the specs?
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>>587471372
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>>587471591
I can see the xp share thing because without that you would be completely cucked if you weren't in a group, basically forcing you to group with randos at all times, and probably incentivizing just grinding mobs for massive xp gains.
With a group consisting of a healer + dps and maybe even a tank you can kill mobs way faster an easier with less downtime than you can solo, so mindless grinding would become huge xp/hr.
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>>587471591
we all deep down knew and acknowledged without saying that vanilla leveling is aids, but ignored it because dungeon spam was a thing
apparently the devs didn't get the memo or were bribed by the restedxp cartel
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>>587471609
Anon, that's Russia. That guy just got drafted and is catching a train to go. That's why he looks so fucking grim. Meanwhile the cyka naruto headassblyatt behind him is playing on a bing bang wahoo for Blizzfags.
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>>587470502
Yes because the biggest problem of the HD models were the fucking animations. In forever they are toned down.
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Horde giantess love
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>horde pvp OCE
>general always full
>people always group for quests
>people talk and camp and joke
I think we're playing different games
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>>587471626
If the tank isn't a warrior I can't let it rip
Cause the other tanks are dogshit
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>>587471490
I really like this style and generator, is that novel AI just telling it to make the character with a default pixel art style?
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>>587471689
That's not a look of an opposite faction.
That's the look of a party member who knows you rolled on a blue drop that's not even for your character.
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>Collect 16 Satyr Horns
Me and some other nigga had to ethnically cleanse like 200 satyrs to complete the quest in Ashenvale
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>>587471721
cant stand the sway of femtroll walking
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>>587471674
That explains why Dungeon Journal shows 8 bosses because I've run around that city enough times in circles out of boredom in Wrath and Legion to know it's not very big.
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>>587470264
>/wpsg/ and /wowcg/ spergs really think this shit
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>>587471727
you haven't played with prot palas and bear specced druids, that's why
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Does it make a difference if you simply relog or exit the game entirely if trying to get a quieter shard/layer with the language/location trick?
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why do hd gnomes look so angry all the time? considering rerolling because of this
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>>587471626
fuck are you talking about? Warrior is the most desired role in all content
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>>587471626
Threat generation.
If DPS attacks too fast or hits too hard, the get aggro unless it's Warrior
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>>587471814
>why do hd gnomes look so slutty all the time?
Ftfy. Assuming you mean the females of course
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>>587471814
manlet rage
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>>587471372
Pretty sick what computer?
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>>587471697
>cucked if you weren't in a group, basically forcing you to group with randos at all times
This SHOULD be how the game is if you're trying to make it a social experience. Id go as far as saying if you enter a zone a pop up should come.up going "would you like to join a party"
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>>587471675
seems to be by the company GPD, like the "GPD WinMax"

https://www.yankodesign.com/2022/07/06/absurdly-cool-gaming-laptop-is-small-enough-to-be-used-like-a-steam-deck-style-handheld-console/
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>>587471736
That and thick outlines
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>>587471180
Ironfoe+ double windfury might be cool, I wish here were two-handers with more attacks proc
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can anyone confirm that you can transmog 2h axes/swords/mace into polearms? this has large implications on my race choice for warrior.
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I miss playing classic versions where class design and most of the game was set in stone
This is exhausting
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Are the shaman nerfs up yet? My Stormstrike and talents still show the old numbers.
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Only a few hours left of the trial and they still haven't unfucked dungeon exp...
No, Faggrend, I do not think I will be coming along on your wild ride. Pservers were legitimately better than this.
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>>587471814
Imagine hearing "my you're a tall one" so many times, but it's not directed at you.
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>>587470957
Scarlet Crusade, Mograine and Sally dying is fanfiction and it NEVER made any sense that Alliance would attack them
Really the entire Forsaken being in the Horde is utter and complete fanfiction
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>>587471879
I like grouping with randos all though my patience does wear thin quite fast however drops not being shared makes me very selfish which is an antisocial trait the game sadly promotes through friction
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>enter elite quest area
>thing snowballs into a full party
>one retard wanders off and dies
>constant combat, so can't rez him
>he misses out on good half of the kills
>everyone sticks around to help him complete the quest
>move on to the other area to collect items scattered around heavily guarded camps
>that one guy loots the first 3 items required as others fight and promptly fucks off
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>>587471849
i am playing a female and dislike the constant angry faces while doing anything but standing still
>>587471868
>>587471935
kek
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>>587471102
>11% of base mana
Are they retarded?
Why even use this now?
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>>587472002
King's honor friend.
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>>587471152
Don't know about other rulesets or regions, but EU RP-PVP is pretty kino:

https://overlord-forever.com/eu-rppvp/leaderboard?tab=guilds
https://overlord-forever.com/eu-rppvp/guild/Kor%20Kron%20Enforcers
https://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1xqu94c/rppvp_guilds_in_eu_massively_clash_in_redridge/

We're almost at 100K HKs already
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>Male Horde Elf on PvP

I am a unicorn
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>>587471814
Are you cute? Do you like night elves?
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>Mage and Warlocks are supposed to reach parity with their classic damage values when they have several hundred spellpower in stats
>none of the gear even at level 60 is sufficient to get to this point, so casters are just forever gimped

oh my god bruh
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How do harpys procreate when there are no males?
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>100 people in westfall
sigh...
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>>587471803
I have they SUCK
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The PVP server fiasco has forced me to just take a moment and really think about certain things. This has given me the opportunity to finally admit & accept that I hate wow, that I hate video games, and that I hate everything about gaming as a whole - including the people and the culture. Thanks to this I have now refocused my mindset onto what I really want out of life: to go live in the desert, isolated from all other human beings, and to live out the rest of my days never talking to another person ever again, never touching another binary device ever again, and to not ever give a fuck about anything ever again. That's my new forever.
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>>587472070
>bruh
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>>587472074
set your language to brazillian, set your location to au, enjoy your own private shard
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>>587472073
My fem night elf uses her... you know... and personally impregnates them all
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Fyi undead females have pretty unique fist weapon animations that make em look like an actual zombie. Might be worth going troon if you're an undead male rogue

(Gif is from some forum post of a person messing with transmogs. Animation only works this way if you are unarmed or have fist weapons)
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shaman bros we went from s-tier, 2nd highest dps in the game (only to robotlike perfect melee weaving hunter) to mid b-tier.....
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>>587472132
>ret 2nd
YES BY BROTHERS
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>>587472073
They kidnap males and rape them, then use the raped males to feed their youngins.
Install Spoken for cool lore on the go as you enter areas or interact with characters/objects.
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>>587472002
in vanilla such a thing would get you blacklisted if you kept it up but now with the millions of people on a server it doesn't matter how much of an asshat you are.
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>>587472152
>They kidnap males and rape them, then use the raped males to feed their youngins.
wait 4 real?
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>>587472132
what do they base this on?
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>>587472132
Odd how the other hybrids got taxed less huh
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>>587472161
And also ignore list literally doesn't work.
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male gnome x male dwarf....
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>>587472132
So realistically the top 3 dps specs are ret, mm turret and feral.
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>>587472132
>mfw people still post this AI hallucination
How brown is this game?
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>some dude steals a mining node from me
>I steal one from him a few mins later
>he has the nerve to get mad
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i love my boar bros. it eats anything i throw at him
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>>587472002
Lots of selfish players in forver. Had a rogue try to steal every single skinning mob even when told not to, ended up kicking him
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>buy mount
>100g down the drain
>starting to get that reroll itch
oh my fucking god I was perfectly fine walking around
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>>587472180
Yes, also their camps are said to stink like hell. No idea what's that implying, but that's the lore on harpies in WoW.
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>>587471928
Man I'm 35 and feel like I've almost exclusively leveled through dungeons so far with how much the quests give and how many dungeons there are
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all the horror stories of pvp servers, especially 2019 ones like skeram, are making me regret not playing one
even a bad thing like being assraped by horde rogues in ironforge sounds more memorable than anything i've done on a pve server in the last 7 years
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>>587472292
installing spoken NOW
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>>587472180
"Rape" in this context is clawing your balls off and eating it whole
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>>587472182
patchwerk sims on optimal kill time.
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>>587472271
Boars and Bears are the two most based pets.
Raptors and Hyena's are both tied for 3rd.
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is restro shaman any fun?
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Niggers???
It's so much worse now...
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>>587472250
it was promised to him 3000 years ago. To most players they are the only one that maters.
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>>587472097
Yet you're still here, yapping about a videogame you supposedly don't even play anymore? lmao nigga
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>>587472306
It's not a real issue at all. Faggots are just mad for no reason. Dungeon gear lasts like 10 levels and you still get 30% of a level per run, not an issue but everyone is some rxp speedrunning tranny these days
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>on boat with 5 or so other alliance to booty bay
>loading screen ends
>suddenly on boat with 50 horde and zero alliance
fix your fucking game aggrend
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>>587472247
it's a mostly functional sim. don't know if it's ai-coded but pörobably.
but results are pretty similar to wowsims and they've been basically correct for years (and existed before ai-coding).
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>>587472279
Walking around is comfy. It gives a nice break from questing and killing.
It's arguably what makes WoW unique from Korean slop mmos
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>>587472320
reroll then bro
95% of world PVP is asscancer, but rolling PVE rules out ever experiencing the actually sick 5% for good
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>>587472361
Im glad my hunter pet got weaker and that's the only thing
Enh got shafted
Lock got shafted
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>>587472361
>nerfing warlock
>of all things
the FUCK is blizzard doing lol?
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Anyone want to roll with me on rp pve? Figured we could do some early quests and chat
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>>587472413
I had the exact same epiphany when I was running around in the riverlands unmounted. fuck me.
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>green jamals are STILL trying to groom people into playing on their dead ruleset
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>>587470787
Most of the time 5+ other dps have also whispered for that spot and it just takes too much time to tell everybody sorry can't take you
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>>587472440
is this really a nerf? it's basically double dot damage now, that's extremely strong
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I made 10 alliance chars on NA pvp and I will not play a single one of them.
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>>587472445
Are you a qtpie woman?
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holy FUCK spoken addon is goddamn comfy
i can feel myself slowing down just to listen to the lore

what the fuck
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Why do we even have rulesets and forced automatic layering in the first place
it's fucking retarded and they'll never get this system right
just have layers people can switch between at will like runescape and make some of them pvp and rp
no one will ever be satisfied anyways so you might as well let people self-regulate and let them play on whatever high pop or low pop layer they choose
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>>587472329
I hate Patchwerk as a metric because it's still called "a Patchwerk fight" for a reason, because bosses don't just stand there and let you wail on them with no mechanics
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>be lvl 31
>see a 31 hunter
>w key to them to start pvping
>get them half hp before they ice trap me into cheetah form and run to a level 39 hunter that was close by
>level 39 runs me down with cheetah aspect
yeah i dont feel bad about guys with your faction imbalance, enjoy STV faggots
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Well how would YOU adjust Enhancement shamans?
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>>587472532
Anon just admit you were born after 2003 and are functionally illiterate
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Which ones the right one? Im confused
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>>587472514
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>>587470502
apparently. disney adults just love playing characters that look like they're about to burst into song while frolicking in the woods i guess
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were the hotfixes done in eu too?
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>>587472245
melee hunter also does a lot more dps if you just weave serpent stings
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>>587472583
??? what does that have to do with anything i posted lol

hyjal has a quest for a 18 baag
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>>587472573
>you try to kill someone with no provocation whatsoever
>you don't succeed
>they get their big brother from the house
>their big brother comes out pissed and beats you into a coma
>afterwards, you're mad about it
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>>587472609
I wish. Look at the races in this game, none of them look like they've done a proper frolic
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so Demo gets a Soulfire talent at 30 and the spell isn't trainable until 48? nooticing
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cool tauren name?
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>>587472468
I rolled on it like 30 mins ago, I already got a bag.
I'm gonna kill as many green jamals and blue shaniquas as I can
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>>587472621
Survival hunter is so gear dependent you have to be a streamer or a Chinese gold farmer to get a good one going
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Warlock chuds how are feeling? I personally really like the wrack change, It reminds me of mop malefic grasp which I really like.
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>>587472581
>incase
Aaand I’m hard
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>>587472584
You don't know how to read?

The Spoken: English is the All in One package
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>>587472132
How single target Patchwerk dps sims would actually look if Blizzard could balance their game:

>S-Rank
Rogue

>A-Rank
Hunter, Mage, Warlock, Fury

>B-Rank
The other Hybrids

>C-Rank
Fucking Paladins
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>>587472692
Moomilk cowman
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>>587472663
>go on pvp server
>dont pvp
again, enjoy STV faggots, ill be joining in on these horde death squads to camp you faggots
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>reddit and the official forums are now full of people complaining about how casters are borderline unplayable now
genuinely might quit if this isn't fixed soon. melee classes have no idea how good they have it right now. even rogues are superior to us.
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>>587472710
feel free to explain why you believe that
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new player here, if i roll horde pvp on na, what are the chances of me being gaped out in the world? i heard that alliance is outnumbered
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>>587472609
The only people who prefer the old models are people who grew up with them, which is fine
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>>587472538
>Why do we even have rulesets and forced automatic layering in the first place
Is this a serious question? Because without them the game would be completely unplayable
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>>587472724
But the version is much lower than the others?
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>>587472573
You initiated the pvp and your opponent made a smart call. Lol, lmao even, keep crying nigga.
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>>587472692
some variation of Netanyamoo like every other cow
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>>587472584
All of them except those with the thing in the top right corner meant for other languages.
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>>587472745
channel your inner contrarian lowtier superiority complex and you'll enjoy mage more than you ever would if they were decent
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>>587472739
What the fuck are you talking about. Just because someone didn't fight you once doesn't mean they 'don't enjoy pvp'
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>>587472692
Udder Madness
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>>587472752
You cant play horde, its locked
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>>587472749
I'd have to type up an essay to cite my point and it's 2:30.
Sry Anon, feel free to disregard.
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>>587472752
you can't even make a horde char on na pvp until the balance stabilizes.
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>>587472739
You're the one so assblasted about pvp happening, that you had to post about it on 4chan.
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>>587472818
the pve/pvp-rp carebear faggot server is down the hall and to the left LOL
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>>587472752
>if i roll horde pvp on na
you can't, the signups are locked down because of the imbalance, to try and right the ship

but as to your question
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>>587470567
>I whisper saying "need a dps?" and they just don't respond
That's because there's already 10+ DPS whispering them begging to join
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I want a night elf gf that baits orcs in to raping her while I watch
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>>587472752
Don't play pvp, the game is ridiculously gear dependent and youre like 30 years behind knowing whats good
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>>587472805
Mage currently isn't enjoyable even from that perspective. You have no idea how miserable it is.
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Just tried restedxp on a new alt and it’s actually super fun literally turning your brain off and just being mindless for a little while. I feel relaxed now
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>>587472759
I think anon is asking why we have them over just having manually selected layers like osrs worlds
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>>587472440
Warlock is still the best class in classic even with a nerf to wrack sorry
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Warhammer online had better world pvp than this
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>be me
>play druid
>cause unfathomable levels of seethe and rage from people in-game by outtagging them and facetanking several mobs at once

lmao genuinely the best class in the game
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>>587472863
im just saying for al horde to kill alli 10 levels under them in groups because they wont even interact with even 1v1's
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>>587472934
wow so epic fantasy mmorpg name
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>>587472905
im only lvl 23 and i don't feel like it's too bad
does it get hella worse higher up?
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Include the windfury damage procs to enhance parses and suddenly the class would top the charts.
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>>587472932
Always did, even in vanilla.
Difference is, everything else in WH:O sucked
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>>587470349
Hey, I did reach level 30 yesterday, thank you for noticing.
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>>587472752
>new player
>rolling on pvp
Not trying to gatekeep truly but you are in for a rough time if you don’t know shit, I’d learn the game first on a pve realm before subjecting myself to impromptu ganking on a pvp realm
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>>587471372
someone help this man I think his wife is choking him he's about to collapse PLEASE
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>>587470567
Obviously they do need a dps. What a stupid question.
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Lone Wolf Hunter is a fucking beast in world pvp and I havent even unlocked Sniper Shot yet
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>>587472132
fine with ret being that high but they really have to reign in some of their utility to compensate. fucking wild how they can have like 4 life bars, instantly be able to remove magic/poison debuffs, freedom to remove whatever snare, 15% perma move speed, unvuln, etc. just absolutely fucking busted to have top tier damage on top of all that
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I'm in powerfuse, and they have this black market place that sells black lotus and arcane crystals for 50g, plus other rare shit like that.
I guess they're trying to cap the market so we don't get silly classic prices for flasks and shit.
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>>587472865
Druid knew he couldn't beat you, so he ran to a nearby player for help, that is literally still pvp nigga. You're seething because he didn't wanna 1v1 and guarantee a corpse run, lmao.
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>>587473029
he has until redridge to learn the game not like knowing the game will help one bit when you ganked by someone 8+ levels higher than you.
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>>587471372
Why is Elon Musk death stareing you at the Subway when you play World of Warcraft
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>>587472926
Probably to try to avoid layer manipulation
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>>587473097
Respecting 1v1 in my Worlo Warcraft????
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>>587472794
aren't political references banned?
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>>587473068
Lone Wolf is so tempting but Iove having my wolf pet especially in PvE scenarios
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>>587473084
>fine with ret being that high
I'm not. Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
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>>587471463
not grunge but hope it gets you satisfied
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqBizWcQx0Q
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>>587472739
You're literally too fucking green tyrone IQ'd to get my point, you fucking Alliance mongoloid

do you realize how much of a retarded hypocrite you are?
>OMG HOW DARE YOU JOIN A PVP SERVER AND NOT ACCEPT MY HONORABLE PVP RAPE, THE RULES I MADE UP IN MY HEAD SAY I SHOULD BE ABLE TO ATTACK YOU AND YOU HAVE TO FIGHT BACK AND DIE IF YOU START LOSING

if I go to a real life PVP zone (where blacks are) and I get attacked I'll defend myself but if I start losing I'm running for help and then caving in his skull or seeing him shot to death by someone with a gun. I'm not honorably allowing my attacker to stomp me out and run my pockets.
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Does the legacy point buffs work in battlegrounds as well?
having a 5-point talent advantage over everyone else seems kinda busted
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If I name my wolf pet boyfriend, is that enough to get me yelled at by blizzard? How do imply my character takes the knot...
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>4am
>rest of the week off
>about to hit level 40
>flying to ironforge for some shit
>heavy blizzard in dun morogh
>griffin seems to take the longest way around possible
>the music kicks in
sometimes the game still manages to be 10/10 comfy
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>>587472739
you're a stupid. brown nigger
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>>587470401
I bet the retard who convinced you to roll alliance posts here. These threads are full of that trademark allycuck cope about them being the ackshual hardcore faction now
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>>587472957
1v1s have NEVER been guaranteed (or respected, people will always jump in, if they felt like it) in world pvp. Are you new to the game?
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>>587473168
lol
i mean, in its current iteration, no i'm also not fine with it. because you can't have a class do EVERYTHING which paladin really just can at the moment.
if they nerfed their utility, then i think its a fair tradeoff. you wanna do s tier damage? then you don't get to be a living god that doesn't die
but lets be real aggrend is a faggot and wont have his main be anything less than op across the board
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I reached Thousand Needles and slightly regretted rolling PVP.
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>>587473068
>0 points on arcane shot
I don't understand.... You say you liked killing people but you didn't even spend any points in the biggest damage dealer in the game
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>>587473223
Just play human female hunter and it'll be implied
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>>587473068
Why take crit but not crit damage?
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why are femhumans so bitchy
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>>587473104
True but,
Knowing how to avoid getting gank raped is half the battle if you are brand new I assume you’re thinking that taking the main road in STV and questing right next to opposite faction towns is a good idea
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>>587473285
He's going to deal sustained dps from very far away.
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>>587473338
unresolved daddy issues
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Why aren't poisons a straight 1 hour no charge thing? Feels like shit having to constantly apply them while paladin can just buff itself and forget
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I've never played wow, should I play this
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Anyone here playing normal RP in EU or NA?

I'm curious what your experience has been like compared to the rp/pvp/pve realms
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>>587473068
Same here brother, mm lone wolf is so much fun.
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Cant wait to see what "incorrect" values blizzard discovers this hotfix
>Oh we actually meant stormstrike was 130% not 100% damn murlocs mrrrrlglh
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>turn off transmogs
>instantly see who is on HRT and who is a based clownsuit aficionado
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>>587473398
lol
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>>587473291
You just know…
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>>587471626
Tank(lol?)
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>>587473398
Your class fantasy is just stronger than theirs.
Assassination has basically permanent poisons anyway.
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>>587473310
not him but 5/5 won't even be a 5% dmg increase with the crit you got while leveling
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>>587473310
>1 point into talent which increases all your ranged damage by 1%
vs
>1 point which increases damage you deal about 15% of time by 6%
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>>587473409
yes, come join the alliance, we have lolis... uh i mean gnomes!
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What are you doing here?! Get back to leveling now!
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>>587473398
That’s how coating poisons work if anything should be on a timer it’s fucking that retard I’m not sorry for calling you out on your bullshit
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>>587473426
that makes no sense you retarded wojak chud tranny, without transmogs everyone is in a clownsuit
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>>587473564
Poison is 30 minutes with 60 charges per application
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>>587473545
im gonna go get all the BFD quests to darnassus and share them to my randos, theyll be very pleased
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>>587473486
>>587473504
Why care about crit at all then? You can take the mana reduction or cd perk then.
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it's been day 4 of
>ehh nah playing warlock isn't worth it in forever
>go back to leveling paladin
>ehh shaman got fucked
>go back to leveling paladin
>ehh warrior is pretty cool but i have problems with rage generation and i prefer pally utility spells
>go back to leveling paladin
it's like slowly accepting being gay
please add death knight to forever, i'm too clueless about vanilla classes and paladin looks like it tailormade for retards no matter what role you play, unless fury becomes playable at lvl 40.. then i don't mind switching
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>>587473567
Ok but you still lost
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How do I into damage as Warlock?
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Fuck the meta
I'll make this work
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>>587470567
Tell me what lvl you are shitheel
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>>587473608
>ehh shaman got fucked
Thanks to Windfury stacking you will out dps warrior with just autos
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>>587473608
its actualy how you should play forever unirnically
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>>587473604
you still crit baseline for 200% but you crit so little that increasing the damage crits does isn't nearly as good as 1% crit
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>>587473669
press agony and corruption, then wait
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>>587473608
The game is absolutely a dogshit slog until ~40 on any class
Come back and talk shit when you’re 40
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Is transmog disabled by default? I haven't given it any thought but I certainly want it disabled
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>>587473567
you're right i just wanted to call someone a tranny real quick
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>shaman can one shot anything
>now it doesn't one shot (reasoneable)
>OH MY GOD IT'S OVER IT'S SO OVEEER
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>>587473693
>Thanks to Windfury stacking you will out dps warrior with just autos
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>>587473510
Oh shit, skelf goonbro moved onto onaholes
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>>587473669
biggest mistake most locks do is that they dont use succubus
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>>587473693
And stormstrike will do fuckall damage now because earth shock damage scales with nothing you have and you will never have enough mana to use maelstrom procs.
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how much should this go for
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>>587473068
Is the concussive shot stun worth it?
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i refuse to believe anyone likes westfall questing
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>>587473736
turned on if you chose the HD preset at the beginning
can only be turned off again at the transmog guy in the cities
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>>587473752
obsessed
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>>587473814
It's crap.
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>>587473814
It will sell for more if you wait until people actually have gold to spend
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>>587473669
wand is your only chance
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>>587473814
2-300
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>>587473814
it got buffed a lot. it's pretty good now.
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sd models look hideous
theyre just upscaled
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>>587473735
>The game is absolutely a dogshit slog until ~40 on any class
and that's why i can't choose class
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mage or warlock?
I played mage before and quite liked it, the frost bolts, the portals etc.
Warlock is fairly new to me and while I like the aesthetics as well I am not so sure about enjoying dot gameplay
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>>587473678
i mean, you could just autoattack every mob as well but i wouldnt call that a "working" strategy
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GAME
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>>587473608
this, I can't find a class that I really enjoy. in classic I usually level a priest but I parked mine at 20 because its so miserable with no dungeon xp and the spell nerfs.
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>>587473814
it's shit really
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>>587473812
Based retard
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>>587473608
>>587473735
i really wanna apm fury warrior but its so fucking SHIT to level 1-40
holy fuuuuuuuuuck
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>>587473959
Balance is cool, I like casters
Feral is just a worse version of a rogue
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>>587473995
refute me faggot.
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>>587473814
start at 500 gold and go down one every time the auction expires
if at any point someone else lists one, you undercut him like normal
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>>587473545
But I am leveling, I just killed Hogger!
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>>587473934
Let me just vibe check you real quick and point out how you are keeping yourself in dogshit gameplay limbo by your own volition because you keep switching classes before Lv. 40.
Pick something and commit nigga.
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Isn't this supposed to be a horizontal progression game? Why is Blizzard obviously and transparently doing the FOTM "these classes and specs are overpowered bullshit" thing?
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Do I keep leveling my gnome priest or do I reroll to nelf priest? Eureka is good but everything else is meh
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>>587472752
>>587472904
>>587473029
>>587473104
>>587473357
I'm pretty new. I never reached level 30 in Classic, I THINK I played on a PVE zone. As Horde (Undead Warlock, my "main"). But I reached Hillsbrad, the ganking/contested area, so I kind of saw a little bit of it... I definitely understood the sense of "paranoia". Definitely got killed.

I really don't feel I have much of a grasp on the game, to be honest. Bare basics.
Maybe it's for the best I can't get my PVP Undead Warlock yet?
Maybe I can go Warlock or whatever in PVE, get a feel for Mage in PVE too (really wanna play Skyborne mage...) and see what it's actually like on the Alliance side for once. For my first week or two of WoW Forever, starting today.

I'll spend like 6 hours trying to log in though fuck it. I wanted the fantasy of my "main" on PVP...
But I also didn't want to join the game more than a few days late. This nonsense and analysis paralysis delayed me 2 extra days from what I intended.
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How we feeling today my fellow Alliance Chads?
>green niggers need not apply
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>>587473257
>1v1s have never been guaranteed
they happen 99% of time on retail wpvp you colossal faggot
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Where my adhd choice paralysis bros at

5 Alts
All level 5-16
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>>587474009
>Feral is just a worse version of a rogue
>>587472132
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Will I possibly have more fun turning questie and the quest helper off?
Do any anons do this?
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>>587472132
WE WERE PROMISED ROGUES TOP DPS BLIZZARD
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>>587473779
Is she better than the Voidwalker solo?
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>>587474206
yes
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>>587470409
Wanna level together?
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>>587474173
What do you want the journey or the destination? I want the journey so I play without guide addons and only look things up when I’m stuck
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>>587474108
1 at 20
2 at 4-6
3 more made but not yet played
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>>587474108
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>>587474093
i take offence to that picture
orgrimmar was built by goblins, not the implied grorcs
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>>587474120
>DPS is the only way to measure classes
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>>587474015
Read what enha talents do
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>>587474108
I have a druid at 26 and a hunter at 16 that I only play to grind mobs on
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>>587474094
Completely different game
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i'm not getting any murloc eyes...
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>>587474108
If you were actually choice paralyzed you wouldn't have started yet, like me.
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>>587474364
Yea despite doing more DPS, Feral is a worse Rogue because they have access to off-spec healing and tanking, can buff MotW, can res, can cure poison, have the best mobility skills in the game and get a free boat, while Rogue can lockpick boxes for other people
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>>587473826
Yes it is.
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>>587474492
they should change the 3d model of that staff. looks goofy as fuck
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I wish i just leveled my first character i'd be like lvl 50
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>>587473779
I'm NOT switching from voidwalker on a pvp server
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>>587474089
Do you want to play with sweats (pve) or sweats who can and will repeatedly kill you in the world (pvp)
That is your choice
Flip a coin if you can’t decide
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for the horde!!!
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>>587474492
belf sister hows drood
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Actually how do you even level as fury warr
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>>587474491
hahaha but you faggots constantly say retail has been pussy-fied but it was in fact the boomer unc version all along that homed all the shitters
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>>587473779
succy is useless for soloing at 38 as demo, are you just parroting crix the mongobongo?
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>>587474206
no
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>>587474626
rerolled from hunter because of no dungeoning and so far it's been comfy and fun, liking it a lot and gonna try tanking soon too
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>>587474572
And Rogues aren't furries and trannies
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The hyperspawn of elites in redridge makes it impossible to complete the quest, sometimes blizzard is truly retarded
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>>587474793
That part is hilarious now, just a constant stream of people trying to push in and the elite orcs turbo raping everyone
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>huntard
>doing stocks
>mage and a rogue are other DPS
>mage won't respond, no water given
>spams frost bolt no matter how many enemies get pulled
>stands motionlessly when they run out of mana
>rogue isn't even dual wielding
>just spams sinister strike
>no finishers
>tank and healer are both ret pallies pretending
>I'm 85% of the team damage
>tank pulls too much
>everyone dies except for me
>"turn ur pet taunt off hunter it got us killed"
>my pet doesn't even have growl trained
>we wipe again, I manage to survive
>tank blames my pet again, rage quits
>everyone else leaves

Not even my worst dungeon experience so far.
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thanks this is sick
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>>587474776
really? im hunterd currently and find it comfy but never played drood
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>>587474793
>>587474828
pvp is leaking..
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This guy walks up to your girlfriend and invites her to his guild. How do you respond?
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Get spoken places i.e. Bosses audio

This is immersive as fuck
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>>587474921
i mean i liked hunter a lot for running around solo questing in the world and so on but it fucking sucked for dungeons because it's impossible toget into groups reasonably
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>>587475002
Is his face red because of high blood pressure I thought only alcoholics looked like that?
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>>587475020
Make your own groupds
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>>587475020
That's why you make your own group and invite tanks and healers as soon as you see them in the queue
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Dun Morogh on rp server is so fucking comfy most of the time. Bunch of doofuses with dorf names roleplaying about beer and dorf stuff, snowfall and snowstorms, Kharanos in general. Was real sad leaving it, but at least Loch Modan is comfy as fuck too. Shame eventually I had to go to R*d R*dge and W*stfall
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>/console groundEffectDensity 256
way more grass and flora everywhere
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>>587475098
>invite tanks and healers as soon as you see them in the queue
lol
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>>587475002
asmongold has literally done more to help people than you ever will in your entire life
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>>587475098
Any addons for instant inviting? I hate LFG
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>>587475119
i'm probably rerolling on normal rp with a proper rp name and no quest addons
i tried being a sweat but it's soulless
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>>587474930
From their cages maybe
fucking STATE of pvp groomers
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How hard would it be to find/fill a random group to lvl 30-40 dungeons as disc priest on EU-Alliance PvP
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>>587475129
/console ResampleAlwaysSharpen 1
/console groundEffectDensity 512
/console groundEffectFade 370
/console groundEffectDist 500
/console cameraDistanceMaxZoomFactor 4.0
/console HDROutput 1
/console HDRFactor 1
/console lodObjectFadeScale 200
/console lodObjectCullSize 8
/console doodadLodScale 200
/console terrainLodDist 800
/console weatherDensity 3
/console graphicsSpellDensity 4
/console spellClutter 0


For giga high end PCs
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>>587475043
probably just the lighting
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Guys it's my first time playing wow cause all my friends want me to "experience the kino" and I got stuck outside the yeti cave because apparently some horde player was killing the quest npc? I couldn't turn in my quest cause the npc was gone and people in chat were begging for help but no one showed up so I just logged out. Can the other faction actually kill npcs like that and cock block everyone?
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>>587475190
does this save after you do it, or will i have to run em every time i boot it up?
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>>587474034
no one is going to rmt gold to heal.
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Feels good to be the little bitch that shares everyone the dungeon quests
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>>587473068
lone wolf is a bait talent for mouthbreathing low iq retards
>removes 20% dmg (more while kiting) AND utility from your pet to give you 20% dmg
yea good job fucktard enjoy getting mauled by a pet in any 1v1 scenario against actual good huters lmao
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The pve guild needs more members
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>>587475248
Do a /camp after everything then its saved
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>>587473216
did this guy watch no country for old men? that's not a good idea.
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>>587475190
what's the opposite of this for those with toasters
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>>587475289
>One shots you
>Pet despawns
:^)
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>>587475261
Does it also feel good being the little bitch taking 4 loads at the end of a dungeon?
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>>587475362
Uhh put a 0 for every other digit in there i guess lol also resulotion scale to like 50%
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>>587475389
only if its a hung futas pug
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>>587475289
It's for camping at huge distances and burst tapping with sniper shot. It's not meant for DPS.
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Are trials gone yet?
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someone redpill me on fishing, why is it so good, did they add anything new?
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yoooo forever forever bros retail retoilet!!!
>installs restedxp
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Did a little sketch of my gnome

https://files.catbox.moe/8440t6.jpg
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>>587473223
I've had similar pet names for ages and never had any issues
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Is there a mod somewhere I can download that hides undeads bones? Since these lazy fucks cant even port a model from a chink client to add the easiest slam dunk customization ever?
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>>587475289
>t. got rekt by Lone Wolf Hunter
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>>587475572
I saw a console command floating around somewhere i sadly didnt save it
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Just had a run with a tank who was really slow(mentally), I'm going to stay as a DPS I think I really get why people don't heal more in this game.
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>>587475365
>>587475575
>walks out of your range while you hardcast for 4 seconds with pet pushback like a drooling niggertard
i swear the amount of huntards i see casting aimedshot while having a pet on their ass just makes me sad as a hunter main
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>>587475557
we do too much damage *and* scale too well with int retard
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>>587475389
That's entirely why I picked healer.
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>>587475054
>>587475098
will do that from now on since i'm druid tanking
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with the amount of interest in organic pvp why haven’t they added an extraction mode to wow yet? i'm totally serious
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I havent really done crafting professions begore and always just doubled up on gathering to make gold
But doing blacksmithing now and I have to fight the urge to just sell my ore so I can actually level it up
Will it be worth it in the end, bros
I only have 2 gold at level 20
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>>587474492
but you're getting a slap on that fat ass!
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>>587475575
Lone Wolf is situational and definitely not top tier DPS or PVP. But, in its element it's unparalleled. Hunters can attack at 51 yards thanks to sniper shot, and the front loaded damage from your cooldowns will kill anyone but a pally in most situations without them even being able to react. It's purely for maximizing your 6 second burst.
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What should I put my legacy points in bros?
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im gonna stop fomoing
this game will exist for at least a year or two
not gonna rush leveling
yes everyone will be stronger and richer than me
but i wanna try out classes ive never played ever in the history of wow
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>>587475737
How about you go resto and I'll tank for you
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>>587475651
well do something about Enhancement being so mana starved that taking int gear still is good idea.
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im with the behind the pack crew on OCE and they are the biggest fucking NIGGERS stealing quest mobs from you and not healing you when you’re low just because doing the same quest they are doing. actual NIGGERS tier players
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>>587475814
First character always has to go 10 points into the tree that gives reputation bonus until you are done with rep grinds.
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>>587475892
>enh
>mana starved
are you playing the right game anon?
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>new video card
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>>587475707
Do I make my human futa prot warrior on PvE or RP-PvE if I want to have the highest amount of thirsty, subby, free-use healers to pick from?
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Retard here. new to wow.
I read that slower spells benefit more from spell power.
but why is [lesser heal] more efficient than [heal]?
shouldn't [heal] be better because it takes longer to cast?
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>>587475002
My girlfriend asks me if she can join the guild and i tell her no
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>>587475975
It's because that's why.
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yo wtf people on na pve are horny and lewd in whispers...
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>>587475943
Is reputation account wide?
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>>587475975
the whole point of lower ranked spells (and heal / lesser heal) is that its more efficient for the trade off of less hps
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how many bongs until the free trial is over
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>>587475164
it's way better. wow, even though this has "new" stuff, is still easy and basically solved
playing it casually and just doing whatever you want has been way more fun for me
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>>587476043
male or female players? plz answer
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>>587475975
it's often still mana efficient to cast lower level spells but they will get less bonus from +healing
not sure how the formula works because it's new from forever
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>>587471382
you know what version of wow solved this? retail.
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Is it me, or are the diseases in the new dungeons really overtuned?
>one in LoR rapes your movement speed for 30 minutes
>the other deals 150 shadow damage every 10s for 10 minutes, meaning you need to either find a cure or heal yourself or you WILL die
>one in Excavation Site lasts 30 minutes, stacks, and basically reduces your stamina and spirit to fucking ZERO, meaning you don't regenerate at all if it gets that bad
"Just make poultices with first aid," I hear you say. Works for the first two, but Horde can't make the poultice necessary the cure the other one.
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Maelstrom Weapon nerf makes no fucking sense
Btw math was run, Enhance at lv60 is massively worse than elemental and elemental is absolute trash
Enhance damage dropped by like 50% total dmage nerf
If you are still low level honestly, convert the shaman in a bank alt and reroll something else, you are literally stuck otherwise
>an auto attack bot gambling on windfury while everything else does nothing, Maelstrom nerfed HARD and SS is just a means to get another roll on windfury. You are on the same level of elemental overall now.
>the most boring healer in the game
>elemental doing at 60 the damage an hunter does at 30
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>>587475968
I don't know honestly. The Layering probably makes things awful. I'm on RP-PvP and the amount of ERP/Lewd encounters I had is only at 3...

It might be that I'm a female gnome though.
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>>587475548
cute
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>>587475781
nyo...

>>587475845
planning on going resto at higher levels, i don't wanna torment myself with balance/resto while leveling
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Post Hordetrannies getting GAPED AND RAPED by AllianceBVLLS
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Kill xivg troons
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>>587476218
i want a piece of that
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>>587476198
>rp pvp
rp pvp is a meme for any roleplaying. it's a containment server for people who think they're "smart "for not rolling on the giga pvp server. and south americans
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>>587476237
This is a good visual representation of the current population imbalance. Stop playing alliance when you still can
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>>587476158
what healer isn't boring?
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anyone else just given up and turned retail models on permanently?
I still don't like the way humans look so I just made a gnome instead
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>decide to try horde for once
>get to orgrimmar
yep this was a mistake, how do you hordies stomach this shit?
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>>587475839
that's the spirit, anon. for me? it's low level BGs. something about 20-30 bracket WSG/AB hits like crack.
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>>587476158
you might actually be retarded anon
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>>587475239
Yes, they can, even on PVE servers, but it's less likely. But it can be the case. But the NPC respawns. On PVP especially HIGHLY UNBALANCED PVP servers this can become a far more prevalent problem and enemies camping NPCs can more likely occur.

>If this is happening to your friend on a PvE server, the exact same workarounds apply: ask for a layer invite in chat, use an /interact macro to turn the quest in the second the NPC spawns, or move to a different zone for a little while.
AI says layer hopping is your best choice if no one can put a stop to it.
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>>587473691
33, why?
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>>587475975
Forever's balancing scales higher ranks very lightly but when you're 60 and have a trillion Healing Power they will be better, fat-fuck doesn't know how to balance.
In vanilla every bigger and higher rank spell is better at base and only when you hit a Healing Power breakpoint lower ranks become more efficient since the scaling is the same based on cast time.
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uh why do i have controller prompts now
theres no controller connected
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>>587476198
>RP-PvP
>gnome
IMAGINE rolling on the pvp side of rp servers because of your noshoe rape fetish only to get flooded by 3rd world rejects who couldn't get on the regular pvp ruleset and have 0 interest in roleplaying
suffer!
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>>587476146
Priests get cure disease by what? level 15 or so? Just ask a priest to heal you.
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>>587476158
>Still bring Windfury which means every melee dps is on their knees for me
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>>587476370
yay at the very least we're gonna have fun then right
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>>587476321
they got bukkake'd 10 minutes after this picture was posted in the deadmines KEK FARMED AND RAPED
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>>587472752
roll alliance if you want to be the underdog, roll horde if you prefer the aesthetics.

Despite all the doomerism, literally every alliance pvp player in NA, and oceanic servers being in the same 'pool', will prevent that faction from dying out like in the individual server scenarios. So it wont be as 'bad' as people say, you'll never wind up feeling like an endangered species who can't get groups, but it'll just be 'harder'.
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>>587476368
I'm not a Horde player, I'm a Forsaken player who also plays Skyborne.
Highkey fuck Orcs, lowkey fuck trolls a lil bit, respect Taurens desu...
Sylvanas did nothing wrong.
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Just let shamans tank already I've been playing a warrior for 20 fucking years
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>>587476337
Disc Priest in retail was never boring to me...

>>587476368
I stay in UC most of the time or spend time in Thunderbluff.
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>>587476337
Priest and druid
Shaman gameplay
>enhance
>auto attack....where are the skills?
>Elemental
>lighting bolt twice and oom
>Resto
>riptide on main tank, now press chain heal until riptide needs a refresh
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Brother whyyyyy
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>female gnomes are kino
>humans have +10% spirit
Priestbros... that spirit seems too good I'm sorry..
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It's a shame Dal is empty because it's fully functional with almost all the vendors it has in Wrath and a free portal to SW. Seems perfect as a place for Ally players to use.
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>>587476493
>Character has 2,200 mana
>LB costs 117
Oh no 2 of them and im oom!!!
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>>587471338
There are BOP patterns that drop in instances for other improved crafting pieces. However because they nerfed dungeon xp sp much, and the drop rates are so low, you'll never see said patterns.
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>>587475945
You are forced to only use stormstrike and earth shock 90% of the time. If you actually want to deal your maximum damage you go oom fast.
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>>587476449
NTA but I kinda wanna be both. Honestly just remove PVP faction lock. It's 2026 it's not preventing any "spying".
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>>587476368
I don't. I stay in Undercity and only go to Orgr*mmar when forced
That cow level area is cool too
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>>587476551
Gnome or human, I will sexually harass you either way
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>>587476551
make sure it isn't 10 % base spirit like it was in 'nilla
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>>587473285
>5/5 Careful Aim to increase your ranged AP by about 12%
>5/5 Improved Arcane Shot for lower cldwn of one ability from 6 sec to 4.5 sec
>5/5 Lethal Attacks for flat 5% crit chance increase
>5/5 Ranged Weapon Specialization for 5% increase to all ranged damage
I just dont see how Improved Arcane Shot would have priority here
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>>587476551
gnome get +5% max mana and way better priest racials
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>>587476563
No AH or FP, that's why. If it had one of those I'd use it as my hearthstone spot, if it had both I'd run around it in circles on my mount
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>>587476475
sod flopped and this game made millions. they're never going to try something interesting ever again.
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i'm such a fucking scrooge i don't wanna walk but the costs are so high...
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Fat aggrend you promised more slots you fucking promised it its in the fucking VOD
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people are saying dungeon exp should be buffed again
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cant stand the way people play this game and behave. it took wowf to realize that the problem is not the game, but me. i am virtually not ever going to be able to have the kind of fun and experience i want.

i hope you guys are able to get the fulfilment and happiness out of wowf that i wasnt able to
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>>587476781
ask your future self if he'd rather be level 59 with 200g or level 60 with 190g
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>>587476864
you sound like a gigantic fucking sperg that annoys everyone desu
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>>587476783
You know how hard it is to copy paste the code for a slot in the fucking stable UI? It's written in Fortran and only one 70 year old guy at Blizzard can still write that code
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>>587476754
Why did SoD fail to capture you, yes, YOU anon!
For me it was putting caps on the levels and making certain runes beyond BiS while requiring you to either have 5 professions or pay through the nose to buy the materials on the AH which is just a magnet for RMT
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>>587476921
Reee
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Dwarves own green pussy
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>>587476936
For me it was the same fucking buffstacking that made raiding classic tedious.
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>>587476936
for me it was some of the cool skills I wanted to use being stuck being the authority reputation. I fucking hate rep grinds. the bots made gathering professions really difficult too
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>>587476864
wdym brother
I've only played a few hours in short spurts but seems ok so far
in every starting zone I just spontaneously form questing groups for example
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>>587476936
>making certain runes beyond BiS while requiring you to either have 5 professions or pay through the nose to buy the materials on the AH which is just a magnet for RMT
same
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warcraft could have a real good 4X subseries
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>>587476936
It had all the problems of Era with a funserver adjustments.

Lvl 20 BFD was fun for couple times tho.
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>>587477152
where dem leaves at cu
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REDPILL ME ON FOREVER WARRIOR
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>>587477223
SD if you are high IQ and can rotate an apple in your mind
HD if you are brown
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>>587476921
its lost technology, they cant change it if they wanted to
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>>587476936
sod was just balance and gameplay changes. i do not care. i need substance like lore and cinematics and cool villains.
wow forever promised the classic wow aesthetic with new lore and raids. unfortunately it's all retail quests and recolored raids so it's even worse than sod was.
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> Play PVP
>Decide I'll help out the alliance and roll
>Blizzard tells me I cant
hahaha no wonder faction balance is forever fucked.
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do rare hunter pets have anything cool to them like higher attack speed or something or do they just look cool
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>>587477223
SD. I turned on HD and everything looked fucking hideous
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>>587476895
i keep my thoughts either to myself or post them anonymously so not likely
>>587477090
its hard to explain, anon. people's motivations seem extrinsic rather than intrinsic. they dont want to play the game so much as beat it. your response to my post is pretty telling of exactly the kind of behavior im talking about.

also i want to be clear that im being kind of a fag about this and that i dont think there's objectively a right or wrong way to really play wowf, i just have severely mismatched expectations
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>>587477348
Some
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>>587477223
you literally cant tell the difference anyway when playing normally
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>>587477295
Kino what addon is that?
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When I gank a low level night elf I leak through my cage a little, anyone else?
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>>587477223
DSP chose HD. That should tell you everything.
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>>587476680
True they get more mana but the spirit seems better in ongoing fights cause you'll recharge more. Also time between pulls will be shorter
>>587476658
From what I've read it's total spirit
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>>587476615
you might be retarded anon
thats literally how mana management works and is the case for every single class
this isnt retail
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>>587470349
You forgot an EU guild OP (the faggot)
<Non Functional> PvE Alliance
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Time to spend hours creating and deleting a warlock until I get an imp name I like
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>>587477335
This is retarded
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>>587477327
>unfortunately it's all retail quests and recolored raids
You people will literally never be happy no matter what they do, they could hire you as the sole consultant that they listen to and you would find one inconsequential minor thing to throw a fit about
Also the raids aren't even out
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Just make SS a fkin 12 second CD again, make the debuff last longer, and dont fk with WF Procs.

All youre gonna do is force enhance to run lottery build and they will do the same thing.

Remove malestrom weapon, its hurting us and it honestly adds a bit too much APM to the class with managing totems already.

I get the nerfs, the damage was insane not arguing. This is going in the opposite direction just a bit too much.
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>>587476936
I was leveling my feral druid in the coast of stranglethorn when I engaged a hunter with my cat form stun. The hunter just stunned me with their pet and in that same stun just obliterated me from 100% to 0%.
I instantly quit right there.
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>>587477424
Spoken
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Gnome or Night Elf Priest?
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where do i lvl 48 alliance
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trying to actually do professions while leveling but I don't get it.

how is enchanting easy to level?
I get that I can disenchant but that soon stops giving skill-ups.
Am I supposed to sit and spam general chat LFW? I wanted something I could do while leveling, not take breaks from leveling to do it.
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>>587477519
stfu you retarded faggot. not a single person has talked about any new lore. this mode offers nothing except for you autistic spergs to continue farming for numbers.
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what kind of theoretical bubble are these people living in? i don't know of a single instance where people grinded to 60 intentionally avoiding quests just for the minor monetary gain
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Join us at <Mulgore Dairy Farm> NA Horde PVE. OP got it slightly wrong.
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How much hit rate you need while levelling to stop missing.
I heard it's 4%
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>>587477613
>I wanted something I could do while leveling
Clothing, Skinning, Herbalism, Mining
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>>587477613
>disenchant green/blue/purple items you get
>enchant your gear
>keep enchanting the same piece of gear over and over to farm skill points
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>>587477590
NE priests have a certain je ne sais quoi
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>>587477716
based na pve enjoyers i hope you have fun
t. fun havers
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Cuh, is this cap?
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>>587477715
Quests not given g gold at max level is one of the most vanilla things this game has still retained.
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>>587477734
melee or spell caster?
dual wielding?
what's the level difference between you and the mob?
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>do escort quest outside of Maraudon
>no centaurs anywhere
>suddenly 8x centairs phase in around me

thanks.
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am I fucking up leveling as ret? im level 16 and I see every paladin around me going prot
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Soon...
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Ive played 36 hours and Im only level 17 and never played WoW before
is this okay progression?
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>>587476337
SoD Mage
can't believe they didn't bring that over
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>>587477876
that might literally be part of the escort
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>>587477764
shidd I just assumed you couldn't enchant the same gear twice and still level
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>>587471372
Ill say what all the other plebbit retards are avoiding. Youre a severly autistic manchild for playing your bing bing wahoos in public, im sorry for your parents.
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ARACANE SHOT NOW COSTS 50 FUCKING MANA
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>>587477946
lmaoooooo
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>>587477916
nope, you can do it over and over. someone should post the macro that lets you skip the "are you sure" popup so its faster
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>>587477898
Korean women are perfect.
You're fine anon just enjoy game average player is 19.
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>>587471545
>the game uses social media algorithms to group you with similar people
Proof?
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>>587477898
no need to rush. raids won't be avalible for a month.
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how long until some deranged, green tyrone obsessed fag firebombs blizzard hq?
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>>587477734
Both
5%, lame i wanted to stop at 4 points into tidal focus for a while but looks like improved SS will arive a level late
But missing is a fucking big deal
Though 4% should be good enough, atleast SS itself won't miss
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>>587478047
Is it really so deranged to want a product you were promised?
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>>587477979
AIMED SHOT 72!!! WTF BRO
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time to tank my first dungeon
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Someone get me a link to the latest version of RXP cracked, STAT.
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>>587478123
I believe in you
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What class should I make my alliance.
I quit the PVP server today after getting camped for 2+ hours.
You win.
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>>587478029
Yea but you need like four weeks of gearing at 60 retard-kun.
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>>587477881
Nah prot sucks ass at leveling unless youre doing dungeons
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>>587478091
you can roll any faction you'd like

just not on whatever server you'd like
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>>587478203
follow your heart :)
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>make dungeon group as dps class
>instantly get whispers from ret palas begging for invites
They really think they're not at the bottom of the priority??
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>>587478203
Priest, thanks
It would appear RPPvp reigns supreme, once again
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i like my woman dumpy and droopy with..holli?tosis? what the fuck is this
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>>587478110
Blizzard devs have zero clue how to balance classic because they just can't understand that mana is a finite resource during fights.
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>>587478256
these retards need to understand they have to put on the dress for 5 mans
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>>587478247
I did on the PVP server but now I don't feel like levelling the same class twice.
>>587478258
Ah shame that's what I was playing on the PVP server I just don't want do wand wand wand again so soon.
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>>587478267
halitosis, aka bad breath
trolls gonna troll
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>>587478203
paladin
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>>587478324
Shaman or paladin it is then. Pick something that can heal if necessary and you're set. Shaman is always going to be in high demand
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>>587478296
Im way faster oom now
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>>587478296
Every fucking fight I go oom. EVERY FUCKING FIGHT it's so fucking awful. it sucks to play like this.
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looks like hunter is garbage tier now
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>>587478203
We need more shammans.
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>>587478324
if youre fem dorf go pal
i dont think ive ever seen a female dwarf paladin
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games gone VERY anti social compared to the beta
what the fuck happened
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>>587478319
They have a perfectly good tank spec too
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>>587477590
starshards makes leveling slightly less painful, gnome is better at endgame
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>>587478508
It's a horde thing.
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>>587478417
thats absolutely a you problem lmao
go back to retail
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>>587478256
Are paladins not good group members? I thought people liked blessings.
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Huntards deserve every fucking nerf they get.
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>>587478256
this but with "dps" warriors
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So what is the plan with Forever? Are they going to keep adding story? Are they going to take a second shot to get things right and retcon everything? Will my wife Sylvanas be made unretarded?
Or is it just going to be pure content with small scale flavor text.
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>>587478515
>>587478319
>paladins
always dps, refuse to tank or heal

>shamans
always dps, refuse to heal

>druids
usually down to tank or heal

>warriors
always dps, refuse to tank

>>587478580
paladins are quite simply the streetshitter niggers of wow forever, always playing badly, always stealing all the loot
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Is shaman resto healer better than holy priest?
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>>587477889
if they give us playable worgen with this model i'll take back everything bad i've said about forever

but they won't, it will be the gay furry retail model with sd option available just like skelves
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Wow no one talks on the server
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>>587478559
I don't mind priest leveling so I'll take what's best at 60.
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>>587478563
nah same on alliance
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Can holy paladin get nelf gf
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Man i might even create other faction characters to chill
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What the fuck
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>>587478203
*thumps chest*
LOK'TAR FUCKING OGAR!! ANOTHER VICTORY FOR THE HORDE!
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>>587478668
shaman is good
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I will miss stormstrike oneshotting warlocks of my level
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>>587478698
Not for me.
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>>587478668
they're all good.
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>>587477853
Feels so weird seeing so much cross talent speccing
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>>587478508
you had only people interested in WoW enough to pay 60 USD to play it
meanwhile live WoW is full of normgroid secondaries, hopefully they fuck off once GTA VI releases
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>>587478678
What could be...
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Best place to fish greater sagefish?
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have to go back to work
fuck you aggrend this is your fault
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>>587478508
play RP / RP PvP if you want chatty people
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lady, i'm literally a Druid and Mage elves are supposed to be my enemy now... and this comes after helping the walking dead faction do funni experiments awakening and torturing a flesh abomination. this game's lore and setting just got even more retarded with sky elves, UD pala, etc.

>>587478296
it used to be spell power was mostly baseline to spell rank, and you would scale INT to feel more powerful as you needed to downrank less. well now they got rid of that baseline power and nerfed downranking and gave more spell power as itemization, but kept the high mana costs. for some reason.
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>>587478668
Better in what way? Holy priest has better HPS in current sims but resto will likely be more desired due to totems and also rarer due to most shamans wanting to dps. Also relevant, resto shaman healing will be boring as fuck especially with the change to riptide where now you can only keep it up on the tank so you'll be spamming chain heal and riptideo on the same target the entire fight.
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>>587474206
much better, vw can't hold aggro for shit and does no damage
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fem dwarf paladin for the vibes??
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>tfw i type out in every dungeon run haha hi guys i'm new to the game and learning please don't get mad if i make mistakes
>tfw i just know this triggers the fucking shit out of tryhard sweatlords
feels good
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>>587478865
You will take the Cata Chihuahua models and enjoy it.
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>>587478991
Use emoticons do hate a tank keep fucking up and his :D XD :P just made me more irritated.
Didn't sperg at him though only wiped us twice.
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Pve server is chatty while leveling my professions I asked people around me in say for some items and they just gave them to me
People don't even reply to you on pvp
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>>587478991
Even better when you are a tank and say "I'm new where should I go?" and proceed to charge every pack instead of LoS pulling.
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>>587478781
Actually quite equal. Does Holy Paladin bring any other utility to the table that makes it so they don't need to be almost the same as the others? Mana efficiency?
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>>587478991
>tank asked after the dungeon group how long we waited for a tank :)
>told him it filled instantly since he was the first person I invited
>oh
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>>587476218
We can just level together!
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>>587478629
>Are they going to take a second shot to get things right and retcon everything? Will my wife Sylvanas be made unretarded?
They know they fucked up with her writing, so here's hoping they do her right this time around
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>>587478615
nah i've seen pretty much prot warriors making their own groups since prot is so strong. paladins just want to dps it seems
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>>587474206
you can either kill slowly with vw tank and have 0 downtime or kill quickly with succy and eat/drink after every other combat
for aff I can imagine tanking and killing 2 mobs at once being more efficient but for demo I'm pretty sure the chill approach is better
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What should I pick bros?
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>>587478123
elf paladins WHEN?
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>>587474598
succubus has seduction and is arguably better than vw, especially in 1vX
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>>587479265
in an alternate reality we got high elf paladins
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what classes are actually comfy and nice in forever if you ignore hunter
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>>587479068
the only time people on PVP have ever talked to me, is if we've spent the last 30 + minutes killing alliance and usually it's to say shit like lets fucking kill him again.
they're sociopaths man, I guess they think you're having as much fun as they are just fucking guys up so talking isn't necessary why talk when you can find more people to jump and kill.
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I've been watching streamers and all the dungeon loot looks samey at 60
>same piece but +/-0.1% hit in exchange for +2-4 of another stat
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Human or Skyelf for my rogue?
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>>587479236
Just play the game lil bro
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Are druid tanks kinda shit? Warriors seem to absolutely mog them from a healer perspective, the only tanks who have trouble have been bears
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>>587479365
im rerolling so i need to cartch up
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POST BAGS AND RACE LEVEL CLASS RIGHT NOW
HUMAN WAYEOR 37
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>>587478781
>hps
this isn't retail lilbro
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>>587479304
Priest
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>>587479485
damn you're poor as all hell
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>>587479391
Yea I healed one all they have is a big fucking HP bar if some spell caster decides to shoot them that's it.
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The game desperately needs new sexy armors.
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>Just hit 39 on my Shaman
>Have to reroll because blizzard hates me
I lost like an entire week for nothing...
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>>587478958
>Also relevant, resto shaman healing will be boring as fuck especially with the change to riptide where now you can only keep it up on the tank so you'll be spamming chain heal and riptideo on the same target the entire fight
You say this is boring but does this also mean resto shaman is the healer option for smoothbrains (Me)?
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>>587479578
wtf is it THAT bad?
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>>587477881
Got tricked by my friends to level as prot to tank for us. Every talent point I spend feels worse than the one before.
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>>587478642
I haven't seen a single resto druid
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>>587479532
the trainer keeps raping me
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>>587479556
I agree as a gnomette
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>>587479621
Yes, shaman or paladin, healing paladin is probably even easier than resto shaman.
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>>587477881
Early prot is fucking useless unless you're in a dungeon
15% move speed mogs until 40
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>>587478907
Your fault for playing a retarded and blue bird
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>post a snarky joke on the official forums about how blizzard should make a horde only pvp server where no alliance characters can be created to help the horde with faction locks
>horde players who are complaining about the lock in the same thread start liking it
I just can't with green tyrones anymore
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Anyone playing both factions?
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Anyone else's blizzardnet app friend list not showing icons?
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cute
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>level 36
>prefer to open world over dungeons
>havent been stunlocked with 5-sec kidney shot even once
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I think im seeing a lot of bots.
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>"tank" warrior
>dual wielding
>leather rogue gear
>arms talents
These fucking people...
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>>587462759
Do you remember the name of that mod/addon?
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>>587478907
>kept the high mana costs. for some reason.
They buffed mana regen on talents but not every spec got the same treatment, for example arcane got big buffs to their mana but the others don't get the benefits until they put enough points into arcane which is retarded
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>shaman is finally good
>gets nerfed in less than a week
fell for this dogshit class again award
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>>587480002
Get another tank then honey. What is it? So much demand wherever is willing to tank can do pretty much anything they want? There you go.
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>>587479991
They are just retail and returning dadgamers
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>>587480080
>Get another tank then honey
That's exactly what I did
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>>587480002
Get another tank. They're dime a dozen since 95% of warriors and 70% of paladins are leveling as prot.
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Go damn this Summon Hawk talent sucks ass. Hate it.
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how hard is it to be near the dungeon and having all the quests that cant be shared before listing yourself you fucking room temp iq retards ill f ucking rape you all
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>>587470575
Simple, too many zoomers, the EU chat is just full of brainrot.
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>>587480080
Tanks aren't very on demand because tanking got made braindead and strong levelers
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>>587470401
We tried to tell you bro
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Just out of curiosity, what would happen if the new raid bosses had extremely high amounts of HP? Like, if Onyxia had in excess of 15,000,000?
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>>587478865
The best solution is to make them a custom Druid form like the snake from Wailing Caverns.
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>>587479183
The character assassination of Sylvanas and Garrosh are things that will always make me seethe.
I think the overall direction Garrosh went would make sense, and could have been kino of the highest order. But rather than a slow corruption as his insecurity and pride begin to well up and slowly erode his sense of honor leading to him doing questionable shit. Instead they just made him slam the accelerator and go full fucking retard all gas no brakes immediately.
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How can I make sure I get competent DDs in my group as a tank before I have to waste time and remove them during runs? You pretty much have free choice with them being so abundant, but the retard rate seems higher than ever before and I'm already done carrying dumb teenagers who deal 0 damage and pull mob packs with their lack of awareness.
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>>587470787
>You have to answer to ALL the 4 whispers-per-second friendless dps niggers
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never played alliance
might do a cute femdworf eventhough i already have a pally
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*coughs*
P-please.. just one healer..
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>>587480219
They're already buffed as wbuffs are removed inside raids
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>>587480284
Just keep marking skull
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>>587480343
Healchads have the luxury of making their own groups to filter out any loot competitors
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But why completely revert the enhancement buffs instead of adjusting them slightly and see how much that affects them? Raids not for a while anyway so there is enough time to adjust everything.
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I genuinely believe that if you play horde, you are a lesser person
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>/wowfg/ spent weeks saying alliance is going to be the chud factions and not the tranny faction
>roll alliance
>its the tranny faction
fucking faggot niggers why are you always wrong
>>
I'm having fun
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>>587480343
Who's the sissy now, bitch?
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>>587480343
what layer is this and how do I get into it? every time I'm looking for a dungeon the group finder is full of groups that already have a healer but need a tank
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>>587480427
Both factions are the tranny faction, it's not that complicated
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>>587470502
are the skyborne SD models coming or was that just AI bait?
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>>587479991
Do you have more cute Tauren pics, holy moly this is peak adorable
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>>587476936
We spent too much time waiting between phases. I dropped at phase one because while I enjoyed the BFD raid at 25, I didn't want to spend 2 months just doing that shit. By the time they upped the level cap, I was play other stuff.
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How much negative synergy is there between "Bloom" and "Nature's Splendor" in the Restoration and Balance talent trees?
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>>587480343
The worst thing with these groups is that it usually turns out the tank ALSO is a dd who just picked the role to bait people into joining them.
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>>587480427
>alliance pve chat
>retarded lame dad jokes
>horde pve chat
>blacked jokes
I'll stick with alliance thanks
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Is there a way to mute select voice lines? I don't want to hear "I need more rage" anymore, but the others can stay.
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>>587480479
Please, I never called you a sissy in the first place but I'll play along with any ERP demands you make!
Just join please!
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>>587480673
those are the error speec h
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>>587480163
Can confirm, every single dad was cool, zoomers just afk brainrot and seethe about politics in chat and how heckkin valid troons are.
They wouldn't had survived early internet/xbox live.
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>>587480532
I don't sorry I only generated that because I saw this cute tauren. >>587479603

>>587479603
Congrats anon.
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is there a console command to reduce fog
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>>587480748
holy shit thank you, anon. I love you.
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It’s been real but I shan’t be subscribing after the 7 day expires today. My reason? I despise the people who play this game.
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>>587480159
I am a femgnome who will now do this...
You better go through with your threat...
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>>587480427
holy false flag
every troon loves the horde
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>>587470401
Works fine on NA RPPvP. Every alliance player I've done across has been a total Chad.
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>>587480343
AYO WTF? WHY ARE THERE NO HEALERS?
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>>587476060
reputation itself not, legacy bonuses are
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>>587477680
People talked about the Skyelf starting quests, the undead paladin areas, the new zones, The order of the horse coming back, etc. We won't be getting any BIG lore changes beyond that until we get raids, usually the events that LEAD to big lore changes.
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>>587480794
no problem
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>>587480938
If I delete the character who attained the legacy points do they evaporate? Test it please.
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>>587480343
please... i need healing.... just a drop... im dying of thirst..................
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Is enchanting a good prof for ret paladin? I like the idea of being able to enchant my own gear with my magic
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>>587476218
tbf I didn't expect you'd answer, but gl on your runs
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>>587480858
Your real reason? You are thirdie spic and feel like 15 euros monthly is too much for you :)
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>>587481057
15$ is a lot of money.
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>>587480343
Yes I play paladin and no I won’t heal you. I’m not a tranny.
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>>587480858
See you tomorrow
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It's up
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>join bg
>my whole team is level x0-x5
>leave bg
why do these 'people' waste our time?
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>>587476936
They made hunter melee weaving, added catch up gear, and incursions were stupid as fuck.
>>
fresh
>>587481143
>>587481143
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>>587480858
What don't you like about them?
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>>587481179
>>587481179
>>587481179
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>>587481002
talked shit* about
i know because i was the one talking shit.
cope harder.
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>>587478395
>>587478417
So auto attack more and use your spells less. This is exactly how era was. You couldn't just spam abilities.
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>>587481217
>>587481191
fucking retards
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My AI GF said I shouldn't reroll shaman and chase the meta as things will change :)
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>>587480769
Oh... so it's generated out of my tauren... which you think is cute...
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When is the patch going live?
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>>587480343
no exp no heals :)
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>>587478485
no we don't, they're fucking everywhere
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>>587478907
Wait why is she there? I always thought that npc was a TBC addition
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>>587480106
sex
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>>587483498
no she's vanilla she just had the old belf model which was bad



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