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>>587675241can we keep the character designer?
>>587675150>Rouge has to find a cherished memory of Sonic>this was the best she could think ofPfffffft! The sheer lack of interaction between these two is comical, and honestly I think they should play this up if Rouge is gonna be a member of the team.
sheep butt
>>587675532You will get crackhead Krystal and you will like it chud.
I’ll finish tomorrow
If you ever wonder why SoA projects feels so OOC.Now you know why.
>>587675778I hate western artists. The only body type they know is landwhale
Spurge
>>587675532I prefer the one with less pronounced eyebrows.
Knuckles already has a girl
>>587675942>oh no>whisper's sliding her thick wolf cock into surge>i can't not watch!gay
>>587675829Arigato drawfren.
>>587675993She only exist in the dreams realm and can't go outside...
>>587675829>"You go in and you go in and you go in like U.S. marshall and his three daughters.">"Use GEP gun for a silent takedown."
>muh OOCIizuka doesn't care about canon nor integrity. The franchise has no vision and never has. Your toxic fan behavior has been in service of nothing. Your life has been a lie. Knock it off.
>>587675708It's weird how we've gone from Rouge basically sorta being the Catwoman of Sonic, anti-hero, etc. to her just being shoved into the team now. But I guess they've been putting her and Knuckles together in a bunch of stuff, like that Netflix future series or whatever.
>>587675790we can fix it in post>>587675984that's fair
>'-Hey Sonic remember when X thing happened in Somewhere City Zone during Sonic Rememberations? It really helped solidify our character dynamic and establish my personality!>''-It was pretty 6-7, buddy!''
How do we feel about Metal stealing Amy from Sonic?
Alright, so this animation confirms Amy's feelings for Sonic are still intact. The thing is, it actually confirms something so much better than that. It confirms that this is all ONE timeline. The classic games are NOT "another dimension". I think there's a compelling argument that in an alternate timeline Sonic Mania and Superstars happened, but in the main game timeline they didn't happen eve though the original Megadrive games did. This is because time travelling creates a different timeline, and that's not weird or contradictory. It keeps the timeline intact in a good way.Also, more to the point about Amy, this is what I always said would have to happen if Amy were to continue on this path of being less overt about her feelings for Sonic. The Amy of the PAST was more obvious about it, but the current Amy is more subtle. That means there was no retcon, but rather Amy simply developed as a character. If this is the direction they want for her character then this is the way to do it.More importantly, and big ups for Amy and Sonamy fans, this also reinforces Sonic's feelings for Amy, though it was mostly through Metal Sonic lol. I'm glad they did this because Sonamy was lacking some sauce lately.This consolidates the Sonic franchises once immensely fractured nature in fantastic way, and I'm really loving it. Obviously there's still going to be skeptics and that's healthy, but it feels like they're getting the idea. When it comes to Sonamy specifically, they did do that PR stunt about Amy's profile, but I have a hard time believing it was even much of a stunt at all. They probably knew there'd be a reaction, sure, but I think they wanted to prioritize who Amy was as a character first, with her love for Sonic being an added aspect of her character that doesn't define her, which works well.Of course, there is one thing about her character that is still nebulous to me, and that is how she actually SCALES to the other characters in the franchise.
>>587676171It wouldn't be an issue if they pushed the angle of her being an anti hero in a group of goody goods. But they're stupid corpos who do thing based on fake vibes, so they don't do that. Insert long angry rant about Sonic Prime and how it somehow made Rouge the Bat boring. Yes I am still mad.
hmmm
>>587676214>Fix it on postNTA Assuming we ever get to the point they'll actually remake the Adventure and Assault.>That's fair Speaking of design, the only Star Fox character we've seen without shirt and pants was Krystal, wasn't it?
>>587676051Tanabata.
>>587676419>how she actually SCALES to the other characters in the franchiseAs the plot demands.
>>587675532>>587675790>>587676514Here's your Krystal design, bro.
>Goes to /co/>Some random sthg anon schizoing in the memories thread>Goes to /v/>Some random sthg anon schizoing in the memories thread
>>587676429>PrimeIt basically stripped away every single thing about Rouge that made her uniquely Rouge.
Damn. I could have gone my whole life without seeing that.
>>587676419>The thing is, it actually confirms something so much better than that. It confirms that this is all ONE timeline. The classic games are NOT "another dimension".We already knew that. TailsTube confirmed Superstars happened prior to modern timeline and that they all remember meeting Trip. Splitfags are retards and always have been.
>>587676429Honestly, anti-heroes are dead in general now. It's not just a Sega thing.>>587675790I genuinely doubt they'll keep the style of the remake going forward. If the rumors are true then Nintendo first-party is working on an Adventures-style Star Fox game set to be released sometime next year. I feel like the remake looks the way it does just because of the studio they got for it.
Holy sex creature
>>587676795Well, I'm glad.
>muh sadsack>le touchy feelyWhy does Ian Flynn write Sonic like this, genuinely
>>587675150Shadow should fuck her already she deserves it.
>>587677039He's a faggot. It's very simple really.
>Metal Sonic is more charming and acts more like a mascot with attitude than Sonic... Huh. Maybe he IS the real one after all.
>>587677039Because he knows it appeals to teenage Sonic fans that love melodrama>>587677072Shadow is asexual
https://files.catbox.moe/jj5ob0.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/g37v9m.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/cga58q.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/5z2uma.png
>>587676419Please just let Amy and Sonic reciprocate love in the games like how it happened in the animation. It's not hard. Also please just give Amy her true personality back. Frontiers and Crossworlds didn't have it in the English versions
>>587677039You answered your own question.
>>587677201He can get it up for a friend in need can't he?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSRZ1jiATI0
>>587677290Shadow is smart enough to know you don’t fuck coworkers
>>587676668Exactly. They just made her some generic spy character. She doesn't even have jewel autism. Like, I'll be the first one to roll my eyes at people labeling every little thing as OOC, but there still have to be some recognizable traits. Rouge loves her shinies. Period.
The real Shadow died at the end of SA2 and it's been a clone this entire time
Mania is dogshit
>>587677527I read this as Maria
>>587677480You joke, but I miss the smug, sassy bitch Shadow like you wouldn't believe.
>>587677603Maria is dogshit too
>>587676051>knuxriem is in your dreams>knuxouge is in your dreamsliterally whats the difference?
No for real, can have this Sonic instead? He's actually fun.
>>587677242What do you mean by "true personality" though? Were you satisfied with her personality in the animation? That is, is that her TRUE personality?
Kinda weird growing up on DA and barely seeing these two, but now they're relatively popular
>>587675150November 12 2026 will go down as the day shadouge was confirmed without a doubt
>>587677807Maybe in a timeline where Eggman win during CD, replaced Sonic's flesh with metal and then he rebelled against him.
>>587677996in your fanfiction maybe
>>587677039It’s because he’s a retarded leftist. Like, this is the most honest and neutral thing I can tell you. I’m saying it with absolutely no irony or hatred in my heart, I am saying it to you with a plain neutral expression; it is because he is a leftist and this is how they do things. Everything they do is kind of lame, gay and stupid, and that’s why they had to sanitize Amy and why they have to make Sonic really fucking weird and faggoty. Sometimes the overall character of Sonic can breakthrough, but when you really stop and analyze things before, and after him, the differences become kind of clear.
>>587677039He mistakes it for depth.
>>587675150I think it's funny how the earliest reactions here to memories were people trying to downplay and discount the shasouge we got. They even tried to downplay sonamy. It reminded me of hack journos trying desperately to control the narrative before it got away from them. Even now you have people lashing out at you when you point it out, especially sonamy.
>>587676419This animation was basically finished before they updated Amy's profile, nigga. It doesn't represent the future. You should still be concerned.
>>587678327>>587678405See what I mean? If they can do it to sonamy and douge they'll do it to your ship
Rouge, my beloved.
Giving Sonic that facial expression to Shadow was the corniest thing I've seen from this franchise yet. I feel like there are actual people on the franchise who want Sonic to be gay for Shadow.
>>587678616Shadow...
We kind of need to talk about this a little bit though.Look, I don't have a problem with Sonic showing emotion, even to Shadow, but in the flashback it was...weird.The main reason it was so real is because it's an iconic moment from SA2...where Sonic and Shadow were fighting. This was a fight to the death ("I cant let you live"), and a fate for the fate of the Earth. Moreover Sonic and Shadow don't have any reason at all to be on good terms by the time they fight. This is actually very grim, thinking that Sonic was getting all touchy feely over Shadow before Shadow did anything to warrant such a response. It was very out of place, and I actually laughed when I saw it, it was genuinely funny even though the other memories were actually heartfelt.On the other hand, it is possible - and this is the best case scenario - that this was supposed to be a flashback not to SA2, but rather Shadow Generations, when they had their rival battle. This makes a lot more sense and is a lot better. But unfortunately it's still odd. I do want to say it's impressive they could convey emotions through nothing but facial expressions, but this expression may not have been the one they wanted to go for lol. I'm not sure what to call it, but I do know what it conveys...and that's not QUITE right. Notice that Sonic's interactions with the others were all unique. He hugs Amy and fist bumps Knuckles. He wouldn't hug Knuckles and fist bump Amy, for example. He loves them all, but his relationship with each is unique. This moment with Shadow isn't a huge blip on the animation, just a slight WTF moment that was actually unintentionally hilarious because, I hope anyway, they got a little lazy and chose the wrong emotion for Sonic to feel at that moment lol
>>587678618This franchise is now ran by cornballs.
shadow fans are delusional and it's because they're all mexicans
If Starline grew Kit and Surge's cells from Tails and Sonic's DNA like what's implied in the Chao race arc, wouldn't that make Tails and Sonic literal parents of each other's offspring?
>>587678327>hack journos trying desperately to control the narrative before it got away from themwhat the flying fuck are you on about?
>>587678804>sonicfag loves IGNMercy how times do change.
It was just a cute anniversary video and Sonic was the vector for expressing the sentimentality. Why are you schizos crashing out and posting walls of texts?
Rockwell is going to be revealed to be a 62 year old Rouge the Bat with the grudge of Commander Towers. She’s paired with Shadow because Sega loved the movie scripts for her and Shadow. The movie controls everything. Everything!
>>587679019Sega locked in shadouge like 26 years ago anon
>>587677210Basedhttps://files.catbox.moe/wlydk2.png
Sonic and Rouge barely interact but Prime and this short is trying to gaslight me into believing they have any kind of friendship.
>>587678687> - that this was supposed to be a flashback not to SA2, but rather Shadow Generations, when they had their rival battle. This makes a lot more sense and is a lot better. But unfortunately it's still oddIt has to be because that’s was a scene where he had no malice against Shadow when he did the pose. It’s supposed to be a happy memory.
>>587678934Mostly because it feels all the franchise does now is reminisce about the past, either in games, anniversaries, etc. There is a sense that the series isn't going forward.
>>587678934If you were autistic, you would be crashing out and posting walls of texts too.
>>587678736...what? kit was made from sonic and surge from tails? no way they actually said this right...
Goddamn his tails are stretchy
>>587679196The series ended with 06. Everything since then has just been parroting. Even frontiers retreads the same arcs from adventure
I don't care if Ken Penders writes exactly what Naoto Oshima would write word for word I will never side with him ever
>>587679084Not really. No. It was a weird love triangle between Rouge, Knuckles, and Shadow in the 2000s and 2010s that had the benefit of Knuckles holding the whole bag. Rouge and Shadow being shipped together is more of a recent change.
>>587678687
>>587678687The scene doesn't belong even when taking place during Generations. That expression is way to sentimental for Sonic and especially when being used towards fucking Shadow. This was more like they were low-key teasing the Sonadow audience.
>>587678934Breakneck the Urchin is very serious.>>587679208Not all of us do that.
Wish I may, wish I mightBe someone else tonightSometimes I wish I was never born at allAnd I'll try to save the world'Cause in the end I knowI'm the chosen one
>>587679376Sonallyfags need to learn to take the L already and accept the end was inevitable
>>587679359> Even frontiers retreads the same arcs from adventureFor Eggman to develop slowly into Gerald?
>>587678327If your first reaction to the animation was how it affected shipping shit you need to be euthanized
>>587679391A love triangle that Shadow has quite literally never been a part of and has no awareness of
>>587679479Not a Sonallyfag. Penders is not the good guy.
>>587679437i cast death by a thousand fujoshi on him
>>587679290During the Chao race arc, Starline is shown collecting DNA samples from Tails, obviously alluding to the fact that he needs it to "complete" Surge and Kit. Whatever that means.
>>587678934Not only was it OOC, it was a nothingburger -- filler like everything else has been.
>>587676051didn't stop people from shipping him with Tikal for years
>>587678721It always was
>>587679391>gaslightingKnuxouge got hard carried by sonic x in a franchise where rouge is around shadow nearly every fucking game retard. It never got development outside the headcanons of several thousand secondaries. At best it go briefly featured in sa2 but that's it
>>587679468An /sthg/ poster not having a spergout at least once a week? Doubtful.
>>587679437truth. But saying "I'm proud of him" isn't quite right either since it's patronizing. Sonic wouldn't be "proud" of Shadow, just happy that he met him. Sonic may be proud of Tails, or Amy, but not Shadow. This is in no way a negative or hateful thing, it's just about how being proud OF someone really works.
Sonic has nothing new to offer, so all it has left is to remind you of the times it did in the past and hope it can survive another decade coasting on that.
>>587679527Yes. But the triangle is caused by the creatives having absolutely no idea what to do with shadow, rouge, and knuckles.They’re basically getting stirred by the movies because those guys will commit their decisions.
>>587679631>Only defense for Shadouge is QUITE LITERALLY "Bro she stood next to him, that means they're in love"I have to remind myself that I'm arguing with actual children here
>>587679527What's funny is that image perfectly encapsulates knuckles and rouge. If shadow and rouge don't have a romance then knuckles and rouge sure as shit don't
>>587679631>where rouge is around shadow nearly every fucking gameand it never amounted to shitat least Amy gets to blush while holding Sonic’s hand
>>587679759It’s already been doing that for 2 decades
>>587679446Genuinely I don't have a single problem with the expression, it is just the fact that it was targeted towards Shadow that makes it a big hilarious WTF moment>>587679527NTA but do you not know how love triangles work? Ichigo Rukia and Orihime were in a love triangle too and Ichigo and Rukia never had feelings for each other.
>>587679171Rouge is part of the group now, just accept it
>outlook still down
I'm just glad Sonic got fucking bodied after Flynn wrote that Super Sonic 2 bullshit.
>>587679809Remember to thank Slashy for that.
The Sonally cope throughout the entire last thread was pathetic. I thought you guys were better than the besties. You got told point blank your shit was doomed and you still cope.
>>587679941It's ruined her character
>>587679819This is such fucking cope, holy kekIf Knuckles isn't hanging with Sonic and Tails, then it's always RougeShadow is always by himself, and if he's with Rouge, then it's specifically because of Team Dark and Omega is right there with them
>>587679964I don't understand why besties are still miserable when they got some crumbs today, they should be happy.
>>587679684Rouge SHOULD be a tiny bit chubby to contrast with Amy and Blaze.
>>587679809Why are you being deliberately obtuse? Resorting to this in an "argument" is already admitting you lost, it's pathetic.
>>587678736the implications behind the creation of those two are weird regardless, they may as well run with it.
>>587679547>>587678736https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvTz9up01Gs&t=1362>Q:What exactly was used for creating Surge and Kit each? In one of the panels we see a silhouette of what I think is Neo Metal Sonic as well as Sonic, Shadow, the Power Cores, and Tails' fur. Do they each have all of those somehow, and what of each exactly do they have? How was Neo Metal Sonic involved in that? And also, is he a silhouette because Sega no longer wants to reference him?>Ian: I don't know about the silhouette to be honest. I don't remember getting a note on that in the script but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. He was there because Starline was able to take some of the bio-data from the first story arc and use that as elements to encode Surge and Kit's abilities. Tails' fur was there for a DNA analysis on how someone can control multiple appendages either together or independently and the power cores were themselves a source of power to help overcharge these characters. So all of these elements were incorporated, some more than others. It's not like I have an exact alchemical list of what went into who but these were all elements that he used and were incorporated into bringing Surge and Kit onto par with Sonic and Tails.>>587679695Sorry to disappoint but you won't get me to break.
>>587679942Choosing between 1 or 3 is a harder decision than which of my parents I want to see die first in my lifetime. Microsoft is so absolutely fucked, but that's what happens when Indians hire other Indians without proper vetting.
>>587679942Put me in seat 1 and whatever the fuck you hear or see, do not stop me. I will breed a nation within a single generation.
>>587680056The only way shippers can be happy is if the characters just spit it out, say "I'm in love with you" and get each other pregnant. Sonamyfags and Sonallyfags are exactly the same, they just want different character designs. Neither of these groups care about personality or character. They don't care about if Sonic would actually do that.
>>587679941It's forced. They're telling the fans they're friends by just following the vibes and nothing else.
>>587678934colorful cartoons animals are very serious fucking business, anon.
>>587675708>>this was the best she could think ofIt's a very meaninful and poignant scene of two together the fuck are you on?
>>587680064>>587679809Would you stop fighting? Knuckles and Rouge stuff stopped being a thing in the year of shadow where those movies started to be even more influential to the franchise.
>>587680009>then it's always Rouge>Knuckles is literally always hanging with Sonic and TailsSo if my math is right, the amount he hangs around Rouge equates to....
>>587680219It's the ONLY meaningful scene of the two together, that's the joke. Could you really not deduce that from his post?
>Knuckles Rouge and Shadow all struggling to come up with ANYTHING they ever did with Sonic>Shadow still acting like Vegeta>Sonic being a gay little bitch>Shippingshit
Gaynic
>>587680068>>587680070Okay so technically, Kit is Tails' kid and Surge is Sonic's kid. But they clearly see and treat each other as siblings. Close enough. Sonic and Tails are parents. But it gets even weirder believe it or not. Biologically Kit is older than Tails, so even though Kit is made with or has Tails' DNA in him he's still older than his father.
>>587680009>Shadow is always by himself, and if he's with Rouge, then it's specifically because of Team Dark and Omega is right there with themHow is this desperate cope possible when Omega doesn't even exist in Sonic Battle?
stop talking about the shitty games and come watch this masterpiece instead.https://youtu.be/Fr0qmBCYN8E
Shadougefags have quite literally never recovered from the 4Kids website saying that Rouge has a crush on Knuckles
It's funny that Rouge doesn't remember the one time where she was the lead girl in one of Sonic's adventures
>>587680415Sonic is straight as an arrow
>>587680349Rouge and Shadow sure but Knuckles? WTF are you talking about he immediately knew what to reference, hell anyone who knows this series knew.
>>587679942Fuck off with your pibby ripoff fartoon, we don't like Egoraptor here
>>587680493www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mw77WbLmj8Yeah, it's not like 4kids has a history of confirming ships that are just supposed to be subtext teased and not outright boyfriend girlfriend!
>>587680438It seems more like their DNA / abilities were added inside of them. Not a literal creation but created in a sense that they're now new individuals from their old lives.
>>587679631Sonic colors DS was a 2010s game.Heroes was the direct adventure 2 follow up that pushed the ship.Sonic Battle.Sonic rivals 2.Team Sonic racing.IDW Sonic 30The pure shadow and rouge thing started around year of shadow.
>>587680597It's just uppity faggots slandering Knuckles because they don't like that he gets in the way of their ship>>587680643>Using an exclamation pointHoly shit you are a kid, lmao
>>587680493>Knuxougeshitters unironically using 4KIDS as their legitimate argument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH8yctly6_0>4kids level shipping subtlety
I feel like the Shadouge/Knuxouge ship wars are more intense than Sonamy/Sonaze lately.
>there are people who really want Rouge to get with a 50 year-old genetically engineered lab experiment
>>587680821I don't see the issue. They're cartoons.
>>587680818The anniversary gave both sides ammunition to screech about their ships
>>587680818Normally, Shadouge fans shit all over Knuxouge's proverbial forehead. But lately someone has been seething over that, and that was sure to happen sooner or later. So, now we have this.
>>587680662The way how he words what Starline used the DNA for is nebulous and I think that's on purpose. I think the original plan for them was to for them to be clones. Then androids. Then cyborgs but the creation background kept on getting rewritten because SEGA kept telling IDW that Starline couldn't make something better than Eggman could and he couldn't make clones better than Eggman. So we have this weird amalgamation that has bits and pieces of each kind but isn't fully one.
>>5876807934kids handling Molly's death>she ran away4kids handling Ash and Misty's interactions>she wants to have SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH HIM>>587680818The Sonally vs Sonamy debates went from "Archienic and Windnic aren't the same character" to "Every single archie and japanese writer went out of his way to kill both of those ships as thoroughly as he could but we can still cope"
This meant fucking everything to me. For Tails to receive the same admiration from Sonic that he had been giving TO Sonic, in a way that Sonic wouldn’t usually do, made my heart leap. Idgaf if you want to cry that it’s OOC for Sonic to hug, that’s the point. That’s how much the moment meant, that Sonic would break his usual mold to truly show his appreciation for his best bro. It was awesome
>>587678068Charmy wapping his dingdong and this shit happens at 4am at night
>>587680818Sega is committed to SonAmy and it’s been a fact since the year of shadow.And during the year of Shadow, it’s when they started to make Rouge and Shadow more serious. And now by this video, people are starting to see the full reality of it. Meanwhile, Sega 100% ships Blaze and Silver and makes sure the comics push it.
>>587680818Well, Blazefags have pretty much accepted defeat as they have virtually no chance of victory. Amy is Sonic's love interest, not Blaze, and even if they thought Blaze COULD leech her way into that role one day, Silver is tethering her to him so she can't reach Sonic as far as shipping goes. Couple that with them getting btfo in her regularly and the obvious result is radio silence.
>>587677807watch Sonic Prime
>>587679942It's affecting this work I have to do at fucking midnight, but also OneDrive being down fucked my personal OneNote and I needed to put my grocery list together for tomorrow. Fucking Microsoft can't even back out an update correctly.
Sonic Mania is OOC
>>587677039He's an uwufag too, never like this fag.
4kids literally added a scene to one of the pokemon movies where Jessie tries to talk Misty down from getting sexually active. It's a shipfagging company
>>587680980It was good and I liked it. Bros > Hoes.
>>587680936I think you and I have different readings on the words "creating".Let's leave it at that, I'm not one for arguments.
Ian Flynn didn't obnoxiously insert any song lyrics into the animation's dialogue, which is good. Will he learn to not do it in the future games too? That's what I want
>>587676606Fat fuck
>>587681251You gotta see what I made of.
>>587681221Hearing the word "Sex" in a Pokemon show was crazy even if the context was fine
>>587680307It's the ONLY scene between these two. They've had 2 decades to build anything up between these two and now they're trying to force this bullshit only because it's more appropriate to have Rouge fighting and getting beat up instead of a certain 6 year old rabbit.
>>587676661>things that never happen/caused by you likely Nice try, im not visiting your shit boards
>>587680980>thats the pointIts hard for that to mean something when media like prime and idw have just been abusing hugging
So why did Sonic job if metal could do allat against them with his life force?
>>587676257Why did he eat out of Jet? Gross
>>587675993useless whore award
>>587681242I'm genuinely curious as to how you take it. Like do you think he meant that Starline used the data itself in Tails' DNA to give Kit his multiple limb ability? If that's so then that would still be injecting Kit with Tails' DNA essentially. Or do you think Starline somehow extrapolated that data and then inserted it into Kit's brain or whatever he has? I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to discuss.
>>587680980https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFdWQjiLcdAThis isn't a problem. Sonic getting all sentimental with Shadow is a problem. Sentimentality itself isn't a problem. Doing this with Tails is 100% perfectly in character.That said I don't remember the animation framing admiration for Sonic to Tails. Appreciation and even love yes but I didn't see admiration.
>>587675857>Evan and ChrisExplains everything
>>587681508Who is chris
>>587680980Tails is his most important person and I refuse to believe otherwise.
>>587681317>only because it's more appropriate to have Rouge fighting and getting beat up instead of a certain 6 year old rabbit.It’s because Rouge is the only one to call her ultra popular boyfriend.
I admire and appreciate Tails' cock
So... Super Metal Sonic > Metal Overlord?
>>587680980I'm one of the people who said Sonic isn't a hugger. It wasn't some internal Sega statement or rule but just based on him never initiating it in the games. I thought this was cute. If there's ever a time for Sonic to start hugging it's when he has to show his appreciation to save Tails's life.
>>587681709Metal Overlord is canonically powercrept by base shadow.
>>587681701Barby...
>>587681557Lore Team lead
So much discourse from 1 vidSonic as a literature is something to behold
>they’re standing together and she’s looking at himWHOA
>>587680980It's OOC for Sonic to hug and this special was corny Uwu IDWslop for people who want Sonic to be Spider Man.
>>587675857I write stories less OOC than that, but I am also dedicated to writing stuff on brand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiDUIfMk7goCпoкoйнoй нoчи>>5876814642nd one. But also, I just don't believe simply having the DNA of someone within you makes that someone your parent in a sense, socially at least.
>>587681892Okay. I don’t see much.
>>587680821But hooking up with a human fed of the same sex is okay?
>>587680818For some reason Shadougefags are the most defensive about this shit and take it the most personally. It's just how it's always been. Knuckouge fans are invested in their ship, but they generally don't go out of their way to fling shit the way Shadougefags do. They keep to themselves and stay on their side of the fence. I think it's quite literally just Shadougefags desperately vying for any amount of relevancy possible, and some kind of superiority complex ala Vegeta. It's also generally a fact that much like people who ship Impmon with Renamon, that people who ship Shadow and Rouge together are quite literally spics from South America, and lower IQ tends to cause people to lash out more often and have worse anger issues.
>>587676419Amy references trip in Crossworlds
The short is horseshit. It's going to be used by IDW fans to ask for more Steven Universe uwu found family crap.
>>587681337This was more than just a hug tho, it was a full on “you are appreciated and loved”, which is also something Sonic wouldn’t say with words. That monologue about how much his friends meant to him, it was his internal thoughts, but communicated to Tails through that hug >>587681932Kill yourself
>>587680515The most mid Rouge alive
Movie Rouge will be a glowie that secretly has deep resentments and deep depression from Walters’ death.
How do you feel now that AI writing is absolutely on par with current Sonic writing?
Metal Sonic > SonicYour response, sonicbros?
I like Sage.
>>587681962I understand. I was just being sarcastic on the whole parental lineage thing. It's a joke similar to when you hear someone say Mew is Mewtwo's father and so forth. Good night Kitbro.
>>587681709>>587681761Super Metal Sonic of today can beat the Metal Overlord of Heroes yes, that doesn't mean very much.
>>587682098It is a mid show that didn’t decide to make just one alternate universe with a unique Eggman.Teen Eggman felt like a perfect Eggman for alternative Universe story just by the uncertainty he would have. Becoming evil or being on Sonic’s side.
>>587675150Behold, the horrors of Sonic Pico Park with randoms online.
How do people like this uncool version of Sonic? He is so lame
>>587681753Sonic isn't much of a hugger but he did let Tails full body hug him in Sonic Forces.Tails is the only character Sonic will show physical affection for/towards.
Bad moviesBad comicsBad mangaBad shortsBad games
>>587682141At this point that seems to be true. Metal Sonic was always equal to Sonic so it wouldn't take much to push him to make him better.
>>587680980>it’s OOC for Sonic to hugIt's a metaphysical scene. There is nothing wrong with it being OOC because it's Sonic's true unfiltered feelings.
>>587682467So Sonic... not good?
>>587682408I had a Sonic act like that earlier. I noticed there's conveniently no way to kick someone or report them for griefing.
>>587682528Sex with Raven until my balls fall off.
>>587682582Yeah, what the hell's with that?I'm not for reporting, but no kicking? Some Blaze joined with 3 dummy players tied to her, probably testing the game, and there was no way to get her to leave until she left on her own.
Yes we are going to have to talk about this. But remember Blazefags, you started it.
>>587682528This moment gave me existential horror as a kid. Imagine being emotionally guarded, and someone goes into your brain and finds out your real unprotected opinion of him. Doesn't anyone else think that's scary? It's even worse in the later shows where her inner self tries to kiss him. Now he knows that forever and she can't hide it. That's terrible.
They really need to let Rouge just move on.She wants a relationship and both Shadow and Knuckles are a waste of time.
Happy Halloween!
>>587682736Beast boy was trapped there.
>>587681612It's not really a hot take anon.
>>587682772Notice this was introduced for shadow generations.
>>587682461Dude an arms length grab isnt a full body hug
>>587682736 imagine your crush swimming around in your brain and knowing you want to fuck his brains out
>>587682058The other anon told me about the Tailstube thing so it seems that the modern characters remember all classic timeline events, not just ones before the supposed branch. Which is invariably based, it's the best case scenario. Now not only are splits in the continuities being phased out but even in-universe splits too.
>>587682969As long as we dont get Modern Mighty and Trip im good
>>587682926Tomato Tomahto
>>587682461>>587682926I don't see a problem when it's Tails. Shadow in Prime was much weirder.
>>587682849Oh well.
Douge
>>587683024No thats fucking tomato potato you cant claim Abc happened when xyz happened its slimy and disingenuous
>>587682408>>587682582>>587682687This game is strange cause it seems like there's some sort of psychological evaluation with the characters, everyone who plays as a character behaves a certain way.>Sonic and ShadowMassive team killing faggots>Tails and KnucklesTend to wait and follow other's lead>Silver and Amyretarded, but not malicious>Rouge and CreamTeam moms that direct and use signals to try and guide everyone>BlazeScorch Earth, intentional or not, every time one joins the game the game becomes unplayable, they act like they've never pick up a game controller or are just there to fucked the entire game and force the host to close the room
>>587683159Potato Potahto
>>587683136Sonic has literally never hugged Tails in the games. That isn't because he doesn't value or have love for him, he literally isn't someone who emotes in that way
>>587683023I want these things.
>>587683170Oh, and I ran into one Charmy, from that playerI can gauge that Charmy players are:Pants shittingly retarded, actual mental deficiency.
>>587683159Anon I think what the other guy was getting at was that you're being way too literal.
>>587683320like player like character, I guess
>>587683216Show me where it officially says Sonic never hugs
>>587683216Sonic was never once in a situation that would call for him to hug Tails. That's why he didn't hug him, not because it's against le heckin rules for him to hug. Just because something doesn't happen in the games doesn't mean it's out of character. By this logic seeing Sonic drink eat a tangerine would make you piss and shit yourself cause he never did it in the games.
>>587665010I wasn't aware there was more. Is there?
I can't believe I just saw duofag in the wild calling the short OOC for making Sonic too affectionate. You got him windfagging now.
>>587683390You are why things like Sonic Prime can get through, because the people in charge don't care enough>>587683398This moment's hug would mean a lot if Prime and IDW didn't shit on this first>>587683360Yes I'n going to be literal when someone fraudulent calls an arm's length embrace a "full body hug"
>>587682016>For some reason Shadougefags are the most defensive about this shit and take it the most personally.Sure buddy, knuxougefaggots are totally chill and easygoing about this shipping nonsense, as we can totally see by these threads and your walls of text>I think it's quite literally just Shadougefags desperately vying for any amount of relevancy possible, and some kind of superiority complex ala Vegeta.Other way around. Shadouge is perfectly relevant and has been for years. It doesn't need third party media and willfully disingenous interpretations to support itself the way you guys do for knuckles and rouge, whereby you attempt to use shit like the generations picnic scene to launder headcanons. Btw, you're the only one who calls it "knuckouge" and I've see. your other posts. Maybe take a break from this shipping business since it seems to be stessing you out. Should be pretty easy seeing as how knuxougefaggots don't take this seriously.
>>587683582There is no official source saying Sonic can't hug and love his friends. You made that up.
Amyfags want Archienic. Change my mind.
>Rouge is the main villain of Sonic 4>It’s actually really sad.
>>587682016Yeah that's bullshit. It doesn't make sense for them to cling to any relevance they can when every time Shadow and Rouge are together the ship just gets reinforced more and more. It's more like Shadouge fans like shitting on Knuxouge but Knuxouges got tired of it and so they start fights when they get offended. It's actually that simple.
>>587683793Nobody is saying there's some mandate in the vault saying that. You can just call out bad writing when its badly written.
>>587684095Rockwell has every reason to have Tom executed
>>587684154>when every time Shadow and Rouge are together the ship just gets reinforced more and morethe only thing that gets reinforced is the headcanon they’re anything more than friends
>>587684182She is a spy. She would most likely look at Tom’s alien thing as a way to get in and screw everyone in her true form.
>>587682016>knuxougefags see rouge glance at knuckles>"OMG GUYS LOOK WE WON!">knuxougefags see rouge express her undying love and loyalty for shadow>"you guys are reading too far into it, they're just co-workers. Anything else is archieshit"Lol you guys are even worse than the shadougefags. At least they have the balls to be agressive and up front. You guys just hide in a corner and get passive aggressive when pressed, only ever really fighting back when krack and the shadamyfags are here to back you up. Cowards.
>>587684503>retards filtered by ArchiekinoMany such cases
>>587684557>shadougefags admit they need archie characterization for their ship to work
>>587684427They are friends now?
Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
I would like to see Rouge kiss Shadow and him just not care I think that serves both characters and their fans
>>587684503>undying love Shadouge fags are delusional
>>587684756Retards would call it rape
>>587684756Catwoman ends up losing to Thalia in all continuities
>>587684610>we're still doing thisGive it up.
>>587684708
>>587684756>see Rouge kiss Shadow and him just not care that would make it even worse than Amy’s crush on Sonic.like she’s a desperate groupie.
Sonic needs an actual ship with the same dynamic as PeterJean. I want to see another fandom burn to the ground
>>587684896That is already how it looks when she tries to beg or force him to do things with her and he doesn't want to
>>587684817>in all continuities
>>587684756Wait. Is this why Shadow and Rouge were Batman and Catwoman?
>>587684896It would actually be a nice moment of Amy's love overtaking Rouge and allowing her to believe in real love instead of transactional trust only for it to not really work because Shadow's heart is taken and closed off
>>587684930>PeterJeanThat's just Sonic and Merlina
The Sonic fandom is acting like they never saw the trope where a character's internal self is more unfiltered about emotions
>>587685069>>>>he didn't knowlmao
>>587685120>Nearly murders him until he gets through to her Kino and cute
>>587633326Have you seen what’s happening to our art? Have you seen Evan Stanley? Everyone is talking about Evan Stanley. People come up to me, big, strong comic book guys, great asses, built like my favorite UFC fighters, they say, 'Sir, Sir, why is she unable to draw human women sir? Sir what is going to happen to the human women? There are many important human girls in Sonic. What is going to happen to Maria? What is going to happen Elise sir? We need to you protect the human women in this franchise.' When Evan Stanley draws these women she is insulting some of the most amazing characters in this fine, very fine franchise.And I am here to say she is incompetent and needs to be fired. She is kept around thanks to DEI and the crazy anti-JP Sonic fans want the humans gone from the series. If she is allowed to continue working on Sonic, you will never see another well drawn human woman on Sonic.I know what good looking human women look like. I was involved in Miss USA, and Miss Universe. I would go backstage and I would be allowed to inspect things so I saw incredible looking women.I saw a lot of great girls. I have the hottest first lady, none of the other first ladies look as good as Melania. So you can trust that I know that Evan Stanley cannot draw human women. You know lots of amazing men, powerful men bring their boys over to me they go "Sir I need a good woman for my son to marry it cannot be ugly that would be a disgrace. It would be bad for business and I go don't worry I have...CONNECTIONS!"You know who is a good looking human woman? Daphne from Scooby-Doo. Can Evan Stanley draw her? Can Sonic do some comic or cartoon with him and Scooby-Doo that would be nice?
>>587685120Holy shit. Windbros are actually good for something.
>>587684956for now she’s just a girl who’s hopeful he’ll come around.but if she were to kiss him and he shrugs her off then it will make her absolutely pathetic.
>>587684930We already have Sonurge
>>587676514>NTA Assuming we ever get to the point they'll actually remake the Adventure and Assault.Nah they have zero reason to, the former's on Switch Online and latter will probably be on it soon too (if not already, too lazy to check). It's insanity to remake them just because of an art style change.>>587676171>I guess they've been putting her and Knuckles together in a bunch of stuffThat's exactly it. Really, it's Sonic Dream Team that codified it: you can choose a character of either gender that have similar-enough playstyles. Keeps the suits happy, and maximizes merchandising potential. Not saying I like it, but I can understand and respect it.Shadougers shouldn't weep, we'll get chaos-powered Shadikal someday, I feel it in my boner...
>>587684956Not really. It's more like someone trying to tardwrangle an antisocial neet into forced socializing because they genuinely feel sorry for them.>>587685083>Amy's loveWTF? Amy has a patent on love?
>>587684930You're a little late, anon. Sonic's fandom burnt to the ground a long time ago.
Which Sonic girl represents Talia al Ghoul?
>>587685420Merlina
>>587685374You would expect, but it's still alive and kicking.
>>587685420Ken Penders Sally. ABT Lanolin. Rouge is Catwoman, the real love interest.
>>587685167I always knew about Batman and cat woman.It’s just I didn’t sit down to think about Shadow and Rouge dressing up like them besides the memes of Shadow’s angst and Rouge being a seductive jewel thief. Sega is pretty much going all in with the ships ever since the year of shadow. Sonic finally stops running away like the tsundere he is. We gotten a full blown blaze and silver comic. And there are no more derailments of Rouge hitting on Knuckles anymore.
>>587684956>That is already how it looks when she tries to beg or force him to do things with her and he doesn't want toPerfectly acceptable for Shadouge fans
>>587685290Rouge taking a leap on love would be development from her otherwise cynical nature. If you only see the tragic result then you're just like Ian Flynn thinking Sonamy is about the destination
>They attack Shadow and Rouge>Use material that back slaps them.Why are haters always like this?
>>587685543Shadouge is a dark Sonamy where the Sonic doesnt really love back the Amy
>>587685373>feel sorry forYou made this up>Amy has a patent on love?Yes, but also especially where Rouge's life is concerned. That's why she says "I sound like Amy Rose"
>>587685601>cynical natureShadow is still smitten over a dead girl.Rouge can stay cynical
>>587685689It’s more like he’s so sad he has no idea how to even progress. He flat out doesn’t want to do anything.
>>587684860A sobering reminder that stories matter more than writers and death of the author is very reel
>>587685689sonic sees amy as a good friend back. sonic is aromantic.
>>587685828So again this is Ian Flynn thinking. "It won't work so why bother?" That's not how good storytellers think
>>587684860Shadow has bad eyes.
>>587685903Did you not watch the new animation?
Vulnerablenic is a dealbreaker for a lot of people today
>>587685689its like a dark sonamy but instead of amy outright saying she loves sonic, rouge just keeps saying shadow means a lot to her.so its much worse
>>587685984yes
>>587685990They’re mad it happened when Sonic is fighting a version of himself that took his groove, turned super, and made the situation entirely helpless.
>>587685906Good storytellers wouldn’t have let Rouge go this long being obsessed with Shadow and get nothing in return.If it was good storytelling she would have dropped his ass a long time ago
Reddit is crapping on the dialogue and voice direction of the latest short.https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/1xui57l/memories_and_beyond_35th_anniversary_short
>>587685903>>587685984nigga EVERYONE is Sonic's bestie. he whole thing he was bestieying with everyone lmao. also what the fuck is this revisionism phase we have been going through the past couple of years?
>>587685362>I feel it in my boner
>>587686101No. It’s precisely because of Ian and Sonic movie guys that they’re actually having goals in their stories.
>>587686172The only people I see defending the short are >sonamyfags>idwfagseveryone else hates it
I miss when people called HEROES out for being corny and OOC
Anon who wanted to write an OC and canon crossover fic here. I drew some slop. Excuse any jank, my hand hurts and I haven't drawn Sonic characters in over a decade.
>>587686229She’s been chasing after Shadow for 20+ years and now they have goals for her?Her repeating the same shit she said in SA2?
>>587686285I got an IDW fan to rage quit when I pointed out Gemini 4 if you prompted it to write a Sonic story it would produce fight choreography and character interactions very similar to this.
>>587686418Which brother is she talking about?
>>587686418>see-through dress sageyou have my attention....
>>587686089Not really. You can bench Sonic and thats not the issue. You can have him fight constantly like Primenic does and itd still be bad if he talked like that
Vulnerability is a bad trait
>>587686462>Her repeating the same shit she said in SA2?Like what? She barely knew him back then.
Any other Gemini 4 requests?
>>587686729Depends who you're being vulnerable to.
>>587686806Rockwell being revealed to be Rouge.
>>587685997I went back to Shadow Gens>Gerald tells Shadow to live for himself after they are gone>Rouge tells Shadow she'll be there for him>Maria tells Shadow her love will always be with himMaria didn't tell Shadow to move on so Shadow didn't move on. He doesn't live for himself and he won't rely on Rouge for emotional support.
>>587682693As I was saying, this is also a key moment because of the attention to detail. Specifically, because of the fact that Silver is not there. While it seems like Blaze fans rejoiced at Blaze being allowed to appear without Silver, the fact is this was made this way because canonically Silver was not there until the end of the game. And unfortunately, this does not mean anything good for those who don't like Silver being paired with Blaze.I think that this is one of the most interesting aspects of Sonic Generations, if not THE most interesting: the rival battles, and their now canonized implications. Sonic runs through white space trying to reanimate his friends and the world, and in the end he succeeds. This is the plot of the whole game, but in fact there were characters still moving by the time Sonic got to them, that he didn't have to restore at all: the rivals.Metal Sonic, Shadow, and Silver were all active during the events of Sonic Generations. We got Shadow's story in Shadow Generations. Metal Sonic's story, in particular, is something I'm very interested in. I feel like we haven't gotten a proper focus on Metal Sonic as a PROTAGONIST since Sonic 4 Episode Metal which was SO long ago.However, I'm going to focus on the meme here: Silver Generations. From a gameplay perspective, I kind of can't imagine them doing a Silver Generations outside of the unpredictability factor. With that said, SEGA is shying away from Sonic 06 and its place in Sonic's history less and less in recent years, and it only makes sense that after paying homage to Mephiles, Crisis City, Kingdom Valley, and even Blaze's place in the game, that they would pay homage to Silver at some point too.And the evidence is piling up. Silver's comment to Sonic in Gens, he was never frozen like the others, and on top of everything, he is with Blaze at the site of the final battle AND the final cutscene. Something happened, and it's only a matter of time before they tell us exactly what.
>>587686101>get nothing in returnOnce again all you can is the result. As if Shadow is a reward to be won by Rouge's persistence. That's not what a story is
Rockwell isn't Rouge. Rouge will never appear in the Sonic movies.
>>587686729No it’s not, you’re just emotionally stunted
>>587686462Amy was chasing Sonic for far longer when they didn’t have to decide between Sonic and someone else. Rouge was an in between for Knuckles and Shadow by the fact Shadow was meant to die and Knuckles was meant to live and progress the relationship. But when Shadow was back, they had no character for him at all besides Rouge to encourage him.
>>587686806Metal cucking Sonic by being more real with Amy, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, and Rouge, and having a vulnerorgy with them.
>>587686930>something happenedI disagree. In 2011, they had no such plans for exploring what happened. 2024 and Shadow Gens is what raises "well maybe something happened with the others". So maybe now Ian Flynn has an idea about what happened or Nakamura may want to explore what happened but those plans weren't always there and they may not even exist now.There's also no good reason for Silver to be unfrozen like Shadow and Metal because Silver isn't as fast as them. Yes he's fast when he flies but not Sonic fast.
>>587686520That's another OC, the sister of the guy in the middle.>>587686594Not a bad idea to draw more of...
Douge and sonamy are both foregone conclusions for me. They're already canon and we're just waiting for them to get it over with and confirm them
>>587686936>As if Shadow is a reward to be won by Rouge's persistence. and that’s the absolute state of shadouge. at least with knuxouge i can think that if they were paired together for 2 decades it would have went somewhere.
I don't want Gay Tumblrnic. I don't want Uwuver. I don't want Muhriadow. Amy and Tails just repeat corny shit now. I want to go back to the cool shonen days.
>>587686937Can you explain why her name references jewels and UFOs and why she is attached to the Walters dude that worked in facilities housing aliens like Rouge and Shadow? The Walters that died in a girl dad’s place for Rockwell to show up and see?The only reason why Tom got away with it is because Rockwell wished Walters was still alive. In a movie about two furries freaking out because their humans died.
>>587686976Beats being an emotionally weak FAGGOT that nobody actually respects and see you as something to take advantage of.
>>587687290It's going to be like Tom's dad. There's no actual themes in these movies and they don't care.
>>587687194It has to be caused from the movies. It has to be. Sonic Team is in love with them and gets to know what is planned in future entrees.
>>587687237>I want to go back to the cool shonen days.No one knows how to do that anymore.
>>587687349What themes weren’t in Sonic 3? Are you just angry Rouge is going to be treated like a cool character?
>>587687223This is what Knuxougefags don't get, Knuckles and the Master Emerald are just as in the way as Shadow and Maria. In 2 decades if you swapped Shadow with Knuckles, it would just become>"hey Knuckles let's fuckles">"no... i can't fuckles... my duty to the Master Emeraldo comes first"That's all that would happen. Because Knuckles wouldn't throw away his duty, and unlike what fake Knuckles fans would have you believe, his duty is not something to grow out of. It doesn't help that Rouge literally wants to steal the gem for herself.
>>587687503Rouge isn't going to be in the movies
>>587687412Rouge isnt gonna be in the movies
>>587687520>>587687559Who is this guy????
>>587687147This is kind of nonsense. For starters, it doesn't really matter if there's a good reason for Silver to be unfrozen, because he was unfrozen. This isn't even a point of contention.Secondly, he actually does he a great reason to be unfrozen. He is, like Sonic and Shadow, capable of Chaos Control. Chaos Control is an ability that literally manipulates space and time. There's no better reason than that to be unaffected by the warping of space and time.Thirdly, while this is a point of contention, personally I think it's rather obvious that the writers had something in mind about what was going on outside of Sonic's story even back in 2011. Not that it really matters, but even Silver's cryptic comment made it seem like they had an idea of what was going on with Silver during the events of Sonic Generations.
>>587687612Uhh Blazebros why didnt we use the Sol Emeralds to not get raped by the Time Eater?
I don't like how Sonic eyes are drawn now. They look too inoffensive and friendly/harmless, not cool.
I want Gay Tumblrnic. I want Uwuver. I want Muhriadow. Amy and Tails just are good people. I want to stay in the feminized days.
>>587687518>Knuckles and the Master Emerald are just as in the way as Shadow and Maria. I would argue it’s much worse. Maria at least was a sister to Shadow, he isn’t stuck at some place, and Rouge doesn’t need to bring up Maria to compel him to get out on the world.Whenever Rouge is with Knuckles, she almost has to incite him with the damn rock every time.
Rouge isn't going to be in the movies
>>587687684Blaze unironically cannot use Chaos Control.
>>587687820Burning Blaze would've been invincible to the Time Eater
>>587687820Didn’t she use it in 06? I guess Iblis is a woman.
>>587687714I want Sonic to look like he's going to rape me.
The only way Rouge will be in the movies is if Fowler drops out
My grand hope is that Silver Generations gives Silver the Sol Emeralds and he uses them instead of Blaze
>>587687959What are you? Ai?
>>587687714why do you hate hellokitty for fat woman?
>>587687875And why is that?>>587687887Well, tbch idk wtf she did but it wasn't Chaos Control.
>>587688029Why wouldnt Burning Blaze be invincible to the Time Eater
Problem I have with this newfound sentimentality for Sonic, and with the stories now appearing to focus a lot on his love and his feelings for his friends, is that it takes away from the mystery that surrounds and - dare I say - gives the character of Sonic himself some atmosphere (or, "aura"). The truth of the matter is that Sonic is a character who thrives on the distance and aloofness that most times is at the core of both his coolness and his speed. I'll never forget SA1's ending and the image where he just bolts towards the horizon without even saying goodbye, always looking forwards and already after his next adventure. You get the sense that while Sonic deeply cherishes connections -- having seen him just use them to defeat Chaos -- he isn't the kind of person who NEEDS others. Not fundamentally, as in not as part of his temperament. Sonic is ultimately someone who needs nobody at all, in my mind. He wants friends and values them, but he doesn't need them. This really is the core of the disconnect between "the wind" Sonic and the contemporary version if you ask me, and it manifests in various forms. Compare, for example, Sonic vs Metal in Heroes to Sonic vs Surge in IDW. In the game, Sonic isn't trying to redeem Metal nor is he isn't trying to empathize with his viewpoint, not even particularly worried about what led to this. His encouragement of Metal is simple: "You can fight me again and again however many times you want. Doesn't matter when or where. I'll be there waiting." A particularly perfect summation of how Sonic ends up bringing the better and encouraging everyone around him. It's similar to what he says to Dark Oak in X. The Surge issue? Needs no elaboration. The more distance Sonic has from others the more his actions shine his true intent through, that much is clear.Best Sonic story is one in which we are never privy to Sonic's thoughts and feelings. There has to be a distance between Sonic and everyone else, especially the audience.
Anyone check out Sonic 3 Early Ending?The idea of "hey what if a little change had big consequences" isn't bad but the execution was so midd,like why does Sonic keep getting dizzy, what is he anemic? Why is Knuckles so weak he drowns like a bitch? How'd Eggman get the Master Emerald at Launch Base? Did Tails really just explod Eggman? Why does this require sidestepping the Angel Island and Hydrocity traps 0in the first place? Weird Snowgrave fanfiction..the older I get the more I realize a lot of ROMhackers if not most of them are just extra-autistic fanfic-writers who do it for, I dunno, headpats.
Infinite is going to be Mephiles’ son.
today proved shippers will defend anything as long as it pushes their ship
>>587688284Well put
>>587688290Link? I'll watch and give my thoughts
>>587688204Well, I assume you mean impervious to time manipulation since that's what we're talking about. IF you're talking about actual, literal invincibility then...uh I think so, since it's a gameplay thing. Though even that is a bit questionable since sometimes Super Sonic seems like he can be harmed by certain enemeis.
Maybe Tom dies in Sonic 4.
>>587688343well duh
>>587688343This was a great animation even without any shipping at all. You retard.
>>587687518>This is what Knuxougefags don't get, Knuckles and the Master Emerald are just as in the way as Shadow and Maria.No, knuxougefags get that, they just expect knuckles to give rouge the ME as a wedding ring. They hate the characters they're shipping and want to them to be dolls theg can play house with.
>>587688493This might be the worst case of bending the canon for the sake of shipping I've ever seen.
>>587688493>>587688558I see the vision. The master emerald is Knuckles’ inheritance and he needs kids to defend it. Because he will not be there forever.
>>587688409Burning Blaze and Super Sonic have the same invincibilitiesIf Super Sonic can fight the Time Eater so can Burning Blaze
This is why I want Tails and Amy vaulted
>>587686875Maria has ruined Shadow
>>587688618After Knuckles dies Chaos will resume as the guardian like he was 3 millenia ago
>>587688570Movie Tails?I get it. His proportions are way better.
>>587688625Invincible =/= immune. She can't be damaged in Burning Blaze but may still be susceptible to time manipulation. Or maybe she can't, hard to say since we haven't seen her prove it. But naturally it only makes sense for her to be susceptible since her base form is, unlike Sonic and Classic Sonic's.
>>587688672It is poetic because the last echidna dying is the Knuckles' clan final penance. After that Chaos will return to what he was before he ever met an echidna
Is this what you want?
>>587688492It was a shitty animation that shilled sonamy and shadouge
>>587688445Sonic’s going to have learn how to be the man of the house if that happens
So do the people of the Sonic Universe still keep Chao as pets? It is quite literally never ever mentoned.
>>587688343If anything it proved that shippers will have a bitchfit over the most mundane of shit if it even implies their ship not being backed up.
>>587688732I hate Sonamyfags so fucking much
>>587688747Sonic is going to have much worse problems than that. Especially since he just introduced Amy to Tom in Sonic 4.
Is this an improvement?
>>587688732Naah
>>587688712Super Sonic isn't even immune to Time manipulation in the Time eater fight, time eater slows down time in the boss battle and Super Sonics can't counter itSonic and Classic being unaffected isn't a resistance to time manipulationRegardless, if Time Eater cant freeze base Sonic, he wouldnt be able to freeze Burning Blaze, who would have Super Sonic equivalent speed and durability
>>587688732now THIS is sonic!
>>587688793>"GUYS THEY DONT MENTION X THING, DOES IT EXIST?"You are why the brand does things the way it does now. Read the comics because yes they do.
>>587688795At least shadouge barely changes the characters as they are. Knuxouge goes out of it's way to destroy them, and sonamy destroys sonics freedom inadvertently.
>>587688793Yes. Do we need to address it when the damn wisps are pets too?
>>587688403It was a previously-unreleased hack made over a year ago that the author was convinced to put out there for Halloween.Original playthrough but as far as I know it's identical to the release version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4_hX6uXVdgOf course it has a TV Tropes page too: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Sonic3EarlyEndingAlso, it's removed from GameBanana (but not GitHub) and somr fans of the mod dislike them for enforcing their rules.
>>587688842Fuck naaaah
>>587688853>Sonic and Classic being unaffected isn't a resistance to time manipulationthen what is it
>>587687518The Master Emerald doesnt stop Knuckles from fucking.Maria is a constant cockblock to Rouge.
Is this what our hero should be?
>>587688838Like what?
>people are waking up to how awful of a ship knuxouge would realistically be, assuming they could even stop fighting long enough to make it workYou love to see it
>>587688284People are cattle who can't understand subtlety.
>>587688974It does because Knuckles is insane and Shadow is progressing in his life under one canonical year to go out and make decisions for himself like a big boy because of Rouge’s efforts. Like taking Amy to the concert for her birthday.
>>587688913>>587688934>What are you STOOPID of course this thing is still a thing, just because it hasn't been mentioned in twenty five years doesn't mean it stopped existing!
>>587689002No. and he shouldn't be a dog neither. sonic unleashed is some trash that we got because sonic 06 was a whole dumpster fire
>>587689002I think he should've grabbed Chip's head with one hand and squished it like a grapefruit
if gamenic is this mushy, imagine movienic
>>587688618they do make for nice fan comics.but then you would have to make rouge want to give up her life of luxury and live in the middle of bumfuck deserted ruins.
The only major ships that have happy endings for the characters are shadouge and silvaze
>>587688974>Maria is a constant cockblock to Rouge.Kill this meme. Maria doesn't stop Shadow from fucking either. If she did, that would unequivocally, inarguably mean Shadow is NOT living for himself and has not put the past behind him.
rofl these are fucking great, glad this shit is getting clowned on, sone people just don't take a hint unless you shit down their throats
>>587689142We know he's hellokitty
>>587688831Duofag melty!
>>587689142Movienic is bizarrely less mushy and ham-fisted.It’s like. Mom died. Daddy almost died because of this black dude.
>>587688949Ah, my Youtube says ive seen this before. I mean its definitely weird route inspired yeah, the little chimes and Sonic getting dizzy is a reference to I think, the Roaring Knight or something? When the party goes down but Kris still fights? Idk i dont play deltarune
>>587688842Sonic unironically acts like and even makes expressions like this in Sonic 06, and you faggots defend that game to no end.
>>587689002This one doesnt look as bad as the others for some reason
>>587689265>and you faggots defend that game to no end.No we don't nigga
>>587689174>doesn't stop Shadow from fucking eitherso shadow is just cockblocking himself?
>>587688343What did I miss?
>>587689174Anon you're arguing with a momthrower who thinks knuckles can genuinely love rouge more than a rock
>>587689161Where is SonAmy? And how would silvaze will ever work without retcons?
>>587689151>youd have to change the characterYeah thats the point. These arent "nice fan comics", its "i steamrolled rouge to make my ship work"
>>587689161Shadouge can't have a happy ending because Shadow is an immortal being. Unless you do some weird shit like him extending her lifespan with chaos control or some shit.
>>587689270Literally because it's Sonic Unleashed. I don't even know if there's a difference, he might've just posted a real screenshot.
>>587688974>The Master Emerald doesnt stop Knuckles from fucking.Yes it does. Rouge is a double cross spy thief out for his jewels. As long as he can't trust that rouge wont get handsy with his gem, he can't trust being with Rouge, and he also cannot put a relationship with Rouge before his duty to the Emerald. It is an intersectionality of not working
>>587689320if they were together for 20 years then her taste could change
>>587688970It's not explicitly explained so anything we try to explain would be headcanon. However fact that the hedgehogs can restore time with their speed suggests it relates to their speed somehow
>>587689404*Digs my thumbs into his eyes*
We don't deserve good stuff.
>>587689348Shadouge being tragic fits Shadow. Shadow is a tragic character not meant for happy endings
Rougefags hate knuxouge and love shadougeShadowfags hate shadamy and are okay with shadougeAmyfags love shadamy and hate sonamySonicfags hate sonaze and love sonamyBlazefags love sonaze and hate silvazeSilverfags hate sonaze and love silvaze
The Lore Team says Sonic needs to look at Shadow like Shadow is his boyfriend who remembered their anniversary.
>>587689367>As long i am here, i put everyone in danger.That coming from the first movie of Sonic is super sad.I can see why this caused Sonic Team to change when the comics failed to. Because he is a very cool Sonic.
https://youtu.be/9fHH4F4-kys
More like the Bore Team lmao
>>587689521???
Honestly I haven't kept up with the Knux or Shadow x Rouge arguments at all, for several years. Yet holy shit, Shadow x Rouge has so much goddamn material now. When did this happen? It's unironically more than even Sonamy. Maybe not in quantity, but in the quality of it. Even Sonamy and Silvaze can't compare to this. I feel as if any other ship got those lines it would be incontestable to anyone.
>>587689394Yeah that doesnt solve the conceptual issue of "these factors prevent them from getting together"
>>587689316I googled this and actually found it! I wish I didn't.
>>587689551How would you react to a Sonic that ever said this line?None of them did. Despite it being clear they invite danger over because of who they are.
>>587689490>Sonicfags hate sonaze and love sonamyuhhhhhhh idkthere seems to be a pretty big overlap between wind enthusiasts and sonaze in my experience
Watching good Sonic gameplay and stage mastery is always satisfying, does Sonic Superstars have any good speedruns out there?
>>587689634In the games, Sonic follows trouble, not the other way around. Or better yet Game Sonic stumbles onto trouble and stops it.
>>587689563Shadamyfags, shadariafags, and knuxougefags all love to gaslight this place and fandom by constantly discounting and belittling shadouge. It's obvious to anyone with eyes but anytime you point out the obvious you get a dogpiled
Is the Memories animation foreshadowing what’s going to happen in 2027?
>>587689634If Gamenic said that it would be horrible because he's letting outside factors influence and dictate how he's gonna live his life. That's not who he is, he takes life as it comes, if he invites danger he's gonna fight the danger.The "i should leave so you dont get hurt" is western hero bullshit
>>587689756I've never said a negative word about Shadouge in my life. I just can't see Shadow loving someone who isn't Maria.
>>587689439This should apply to Super Sonic 1000fold though. I believe the timestop thing is pretty much just a gameplay thing.
>>587689563It was those damn movies and the material Sega and Sonic Team got to see of them before we did.Sonic Frontiers was changed significantly by them. The third one is responsible for this short. There must be a movie Rouge and Shadow relationship causing them to go all the way in. Because they didn’t commit to these plot lines before.
I need an edit of this with the lore team in the background shocked at shadow about to shoot gayeyed sonic plz
>>587689563Shadow x rouge started getting content in Sa2. But an animated children's show aired shortly after and because the games sold poorly warped a lot of people's perceptions of the character dynamics. Ask a shadougefag why they ship the characters and they'll give you a game. Ask a knuxougefag why they ship the characters and they'll bring up something that happened in sonic x.
>>587689807That’s because Game Sonic got past anything like this off screen. Movie Sonic didn’t. He was a kid that lost his mom and slowly became more depressed by being alone.
Nu-Sonic would've had a mental breakdown during the events of Sonic Adventure 2.
>>587689903trvke
Sonic X was the closest animation that understood Sonic.
>>587689914Im not comparing them but you brought up "no sonic ever talks like this" and that somehow Sonic Team liked that
>>587690001Sonic maybe, but every other character was horribly ooc
Movie Sonic is just more serious spongebob
She slept sitting by the door that night
>>587689903>Shadow x rouge started getting content in Sa2No. It was knuckles and rouge because Shadow was meant to be a dead recolor one off. The Rouge abs Shadow shop was a later development that became more considered over time till it snowballed into this. It’s like space king. The medic guy was intended to be with the main red guy to be bullied by him but he naturally fit with Hatemonger for the scenes and story.
>>587689824Well no its not just gameplay because the characters announce that its happening. Everyone perceives it, it happened. I dont know how the Time Eater's slow vs erasure differs or if Eggman's completion of its robotics has something to do with it, but it happensI think Super Sonic is just bad with time. Metal Overlord freezes them in Heroes and we later see that Shadow's basic Chaos Control can counter that so Super Sonic could've done that too and didn't
>>587690046How is Sonic X OOC? Honest question. I see this take a lot and the only examples I see given out are Sonic fearing water and Amy and Knuckles being too aggressive. Are you saying Shadow, Tails, and Cream are "horribly OOC"?
>>587690046Name 3 characters that were OOC in Sonic X.
Roger Craig Smith sounds so fucking bored when he does Sonic.
>>587689923Sonic showed an emotional and vulnerable side when he told Amy to take care of herself in SA2 and when he felt sad about Shadow’s death in the credits of SA2
>>587689474we do it's just theres too many old people with too much involvement in the series and they need to fuck off
>>587690035Well they did. Because it introduced Sonic as a genuine hero.
>>587690226Ignoring how you're really stretching that first example notice how those were done way better than today
sthg watching any character interaction: https://youtu.be/VCFRjLv4KE0?&t=711
>>587689265He makes this expression once, when he sees Elise die, and never again far as I remember. He doesn't even make it at the end of the game when he needs to let go of their journey together, instead smiling while reminding her to do the same. So, it's slightly more excusable. But this is the most sentimental Sonic's ever been in the games, Elise's death. That and Shahra's death in Secret Rings, but he doesn't have a silly expression there. Both of those work better than... whatever the hell the expression is trying to convey in the short.
>>587685362But how do you turn Silver and Blaze into "oh they're the genderswapped version of the other"?
>>587690245Sonic has been self sacrificial multiple times in the games
>>587690152Rouge's theme was about shadow, the scene where knuckles saves her was a direct callback to shadow saving her earlier in the game (right down to the "I didn't save you, I saved the emeralds), and her final cutscene has her holding the limiters, look at them, and say she's got something better than jewels. No, sa2 was not about knuxouge at all. It was shadouge through and through. If that's not enough, the 06 internal documents directly state that knuxouge directly originates from sonic x, wherease shadouge is "from the games".
>>587690337And was it executed well?
>>587690169>Well no its not just gameplay because the characters announce that its happening.That doesn't really matter. The characters always do this. Sonic never canonically says "When you lose a life, you can restart from the last checkpoint!" And that should be obvious. There's a dissonance between in-game and story.
>>587690302nta, thought he also had it another time earlier on, bandage scene I think
>>587690336lol what the fuck
>>587690276I really don’t like the fact that Sonic stared at Shadow with a vulnerable face in the animation. It was out of character. Sonic would’ve looked at him with a confident smile if it was in character
>>587690209agreed, we could've gotten better casting choices but we didn't because of some bullshit back in 2021
Realistically speaking, I think we can all agree the animation was majorly focused on sonamy with a side order of shadouge. There was some knuxouge but it was kind of a bonus
>>587683401hb lint + Miles Prower + Honey the CatI was going to post the booru link for the comic but I guess at some point since last year someone on the booru nuked all of LCkun's stuff. Lol.
>>587690475What are you fucking shipfag lunatics ever talking about
>>587690475I agree.
>>587680438
>>587689212I had not realized that the ass had been that visible
>>587690372Yes
>>587690475Trvke
>>587690359>the 06 internal documents directly state that knuxouge directly originates from sonic x, wherease shadouge is "from the games".Okay that’s weird.With Shadow being a character meant to die in his debut game and the Knuckle and Rouge teases, it’s just very weird.I have no problems with Shadow Rouge but it was those things that made me think they were never a couple for decades as a shadow fanboy. It was the same with Sonic in that I didn’t see the SonAmy thing as any way official and he’s going to be like Shadow, a loner.It’s only the recent material that have been making me think they’re supposed to be ships because of the intensified clarity and commitments to them that they badly needed.
>>587690538They seriously overdo it now
anons who do you suggest should replace kirk thorton?(only US VA's, Canada is strict af)
>>587690401Yes and this isnt one of those dissonances. Unless you thinks Rings aren't canon.
>>587690418I'd believe it, since they were going heavy on the Sonelise romance in that game. Still wouldn't say it has even nearly the same vibe, given that, despite all that, Sonic himself ultimately maintains his sentiments for Elise under pretty tight control. A one-off silly expression can be tolerated. The gushing sentimentality of the short is totally exaggerated for someone of Sonic's personality.
>>587690578The intended ships are>sonamy>shadouge>silvazeShould be obvious since three hedgehogs + three main girls but whatever. Bottom line is that anything else you see is essentially just some delusional faggots headcanon
>>587690538>the west repeats the same lesson over and over again/sthg/ said this would happen.
Always a good thread when you can see Slashy trying to make a point but no one is replying to him.
>>587681497"I admire you for being able to do what I can't"-Sonic to Tails in the Japanese version of Frontiers :D
>>587690454I take it as Sonic looking back at those memories with a better understanding of Amy and Shadow. It makes way too much sense. In Sonic CD he was “ew, a girl.” And Sonic Adventure 2, he wanted to cave Shadow’s face into the pavement.He smiles brightly at Amy. And his face is significantly saddened at Shadow.
The writing in this short was so corny.
>>587690695Obsessed?
>>587690743Yeah, it was kino
>>587690572What about the comics and shows?
>>587690729Thats a better interpretation and if thats the intention i'll calm down a bit but it doesnt seem to be
i still don't know anything about slashy. someone said he harassed me. i don't even know who that is. does he slash people?
>>587690516thnx..>spoileryeah, there're reasons op demoted it to rentrylink.
>>587689474yeah I think this thread well and enough proves that
>>587690781It wasn't the corny kind of cool like Sonic Heroes. It was corny in a eyerolling way.
So Honey is just that girl who wrestles Tails into sex ntil she finally gets a game?
>>587690729>>587690801This is still OOC.
QUESTION FOR FANS OF IAN'S WRITING IN ARCHIE AND IDWI think Sonic Team's writing is focused on showing who the characters are and has a secondary focus on themes and thematic parallels, at the expense of other aspects of writing. Would you say it's correct to claim that Ian's writing is similarly focused on character relationships and a sense of progression within them, at the expense of other aspects of writing? I'm thinking that if this is the case, then in order to fully enjoy his stories it's best to focus on those aspects
>>587690823Hb lint/lc kun is su ch a great artist whats his deal with sthg why was he a shitposter
>>587690963Ian doesnt value what Sonic Team values
>>587691063I know
>>587690336You don't, you have Shadow steal Blaze from Silver and have Silver apprentice Dapple and give her a 'lanoverhaul'.
>>587690963Sonic Team would write loads of plot holes but are able to handle their characters fine. Ian can't let go of the idea that the characters need to grow closer and more intimate over time.
>>587690560God damn Sonic got slapped with that paternity suit I see
>>587691210This starts to make sense when you realize Ian is a closeted shipper.
>>587687037https://poe.com/s/oPwyRonZGuaALeGoE3Iv
>>587690663You forgot>Tails X other-media's token oc of the week
>>587690604AtariXThe answer to everything is AtariX.
>>587690992He's an autistic attention whore. No seriously that's his worst vice. I consider his unironic white supremacist bullshit secondary to that.
>>587690359>her final cutscene has her holding the limiters, look at them, and say she's got something better than jewels.Went back to look at the cutscene. Rouge is not holding the Ring when she says that
>>587690663It’s hard to blame them when this franchise was unrefined mess with confusing character elements. Like>Sonic and Amy being seemingly being a one sided crush from an annoying cheerleader for decades by her debut game even.>Shadow being very paralleled to Sonic to an upmost extreme that he’s pretty much the cool loner frat bro in dark hot topic clothes. Which is worsened by his bizarre mandated stagnations that just essentially go, “Maria!” BOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!>Rouge only being elaborately romantic with Knuckles in a way she never is to Shadow. >Blaze X Silver being seemingly impossible because of the lore and lack of games and canon materials for them being together. I am not kidding. Not at all. They’ve should’ve made Blaze’s dimension be Silver’s future to simplify and erase this stupid mess for good. Them living in two different worlds from the main one causes so many issues to even use one of them that getting both od them is a blue moon’s chance. Lots of dumb and unnecessary issues that causes these confusions.
>>587691492Doesnt being a good artist give you a pass to be that way
>>587691567Not when you sit on here for months replying to yourself up to 14 hours a day everyday for the exclusive purpose of chasing out other drawfags.
>>587691529Sonic Team doesnt think in shippy terms like you tardbro. No, it is not worth merging Silver and Blaze's unique settings just for shipping, that is not how they think because shipping doesnt dictate their actuons or the series
>>587691620But what if youre the best drawfag, which he seemed to beWhat did other drawfags do to earn his ire
>slashy calling anyone an attention whore
>>587691664>But what if youre the best drawfageh, I think Kayla-na was still better even if her stuff was more stylized.>What did other drawfags do to earn his ireNothing. Literally nothing.
>>587691715Hi lckun.
>>587690663Only sonamy is intended
Sorry Shadouge guy, I literally cannot imagine Shadow falling in love with someone who isn't Maria.
>>587690639>this isnt one of those dissonanceswhy wouldn't it be
>>587691957love this guy
>>587691628I’m not even think in terms of shipping. I’m thinking terms of order cause Blaze and Silver living at two different worlds from the main one causes too many issues for them to be featured at all. When they’re supposed to be a main line pair of characters. And it’s so bad that Sega and IDW started to no longer care about those stupid settings just so they can use them.They want to have Shadow Rouge and Sonic Amy. So when Flynn said the latter sucked hard to work with and the movies saw them and went all in, that’s when that stupid aimlessness on them and Silver and Blaze finally died.
>>587691916True canon shipping is acknowledging that you don't need to see your couples make out to enjoy them as a pairI enjoy Amy chasing SonicI enjoy Rouge messing with Knuckles or trying to get Shadow to do things with herI enjoy Vanilla making Vector blushI enjoy that Silver and Blaze work well as a pair and trust and rely on each other and that Blaze liked Silver's naivete
>>587692040Do you think Rings arent canon?
>>587691916He's stuck in the past.
>>587691292>Base Metal Sonic is mute in modern canon, speaking only when upgraded to Neo Metal Sonic.
>>587691715Baki’s dad
>>587691862Slashy would blow tranny dicks all day if that means fucking with evan, so it's projection.
>>587692065Shame he's nothing but a jobber nowadays
>>587692121well shadow literally has rings on his wrists and ankles so no, i don't think rings aren't canon
such serious business in this threadI'm gonna touch Tails' butt instead
>>587691292>>587692150
>>587692219That’s his tails!!!!
>>587690359>If that's not enough, the 06 internal documents directly state that knuxouge directly originates from sonic x, wherease shadouge is "from the games".https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dbxybgkUEWwbeCbuw8de95-_b2rT5To9TJ1gNT20kdU/htmlview> ゲーム中ではシャドウに気があるようなそぶりだが、ソニックX中ではナックルズとけんかしながらも仲むつましい関係にある。> In the games, she shows some interest in Shadow, but in Sonic X, she also has something of a love-hate relationship with Knuckles.Draw your own conclusions, but: 1) this sidenote doesn't specify that this was added or unique to Sonic X, 2) this is from mid-2000's and a lot can change in 20 years, and 3) Sega had no problem allowing profiles that hint at either or both.
>>587692201wdym
>>587692290It blatantly says why I typed but feel free to warp it so it doesn't fuck your ship bro
>>587692264fine you picky fuck let's fix that
>>587692317First to get raped by Metal in the new animation and then gets tossed around like a ragdoll
>>587692356That’s his back!!!
>>587692356Why do you have to ruin this relationship by sexualizing it so hard?
>>587690336I colored that pic 4 days ago and it's already artifacted and blurry now
>>587691292>Look at Miles Prower. On Kronos Island, you finally admitted aloud that you felt inconsistentChaos, not Kronos
>>587692150>>587692258These are bad oversights
>every hentai artist under the sun decided she's a rapistHoney is the Hypno of SonicHoney is the Orochimaru of Sonic
Short fucks powerscalers completely. How is Metal with a fraction of Sonic's experience going 1v6 and winning? How is a drained Sonic doing better than Shadow and Knuckles? Might as well take all the "x/y/z = Sonic" statements and throw them out if you take this short seriously. Sonic can somehow solo his friends now.
>>587692441?
>>587692478GODnic power
>>587692478Metal = SonicMetal + 0.5x Sonic > everyone elseDrained Sonic didn't do better than anyone
>>587692351It blatantly says "shows some interest" and "something of a love-hate relationship" which are, oh, only things that ONLY ANYONE WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN CAN DETERMINE IN HER DEBUT GAME.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9OxfjRxsJMJapanese dub
Jaleel White says that we will never ever forever never cancel Dave Chapelle, I therefore christen thee Dave Chapelle to be /ourguy/.
>>587692619His feet scare me.
>>587692382you win this round>>587692398because it pisses you specifically off, obviously
fuck i'm tired of roger, just give bryce a dual role contract atp
>>587692696Let’s give him the voice direction of Chris redfield.
>>587692696Bryce has to be one of the worst picks ive ever heardLets put Roger on Shadow though
>>587692549>Drained Sonic didn't do better than anyoneThe two times he did act, he clearly did. And even if you assume what you say is correct, that would mean Sonic would still solo at least half a group comprised of Shadow and Knuckles.
Imagine an IP where:>The company never delivers with effort>The fanbase is never happy, but will buy the low effort anywaysStockholm syndrome where the kidnapper just leaves the door open.
>>587692809>that would mean Sonic would still solo at least half a group comprised of Shadow and Knuckles.Yes, that's correct.
>>587692860Infinite is his only rival.
>>587692809>he clearly didNo he didn't.>Sonic would soloSonic is equal to Shadow and above Knuckles. If Metal is equal to Shadow and above Knuckles, then Metal + some extra boost is above Shadow and even more above Knuckles.
>>587692890>Infinite beats shadow and silver>Leaves>Fights Sonic like he’s his boyfriend.
>>587692860So all those statements about Knuckles and Shadow and Blaze being = Sonic are completely worthless if you take the short seriously. Ergo, the short cannot be taken seriously. Sonic = Shadow is an ironclad rule from Sega.
>>587692653And what do you get out of pissing me off that would make you stoop to being such vermin?
>>587692890That nigga ain't ever coming back.
>>587692810Maybe it's not for you? Maybe you're just old and jaded.
>>587693058He already did. And made sure Eggman gotten his first taste of it.
>>587692962>Sonic is equal to ShadowI agree. The short is the one who doesn't. For them to be equals, Metal wouldn't be able to 1v6 Shadow + others with a fraction of Sonic's skill.
>>587692412C-colorist-kun...!
>>587693060Stop movking me and help me break these chain.
The thing is that KnucklesXRouge is all Knuckles fans have left; if they let that go, there is nothing left for Knuckles.Shadow is still the second most popular character with his own games. Meanwhile, Knuckles lost his rival status; he has been shown as a uberretard jobber, where only his movie version is competent.Rouge is literally all that Knuckles fans have left, so they cling to that ship for dear life, even if the characters haven't interacted meaningfully at all since SA2, holding on to Sonic X.
>>587692810There’s way more effort and plans into this than in the past.
>>587693107How do you think fights work? It's not just "well they have more fighters so the group power level number is bigger than Metal's number"Metal systematically disposes of each fighter, something he could already do as regular Metal to everyone but Shadow
>>587693047shit's pretty funny
>>587693121I like this ship in more of a porn way than a canon way
>>587692890The fact that Sonic was beating him before he used his immobilizing hax is honestly kinda insane.
>>587693134If people think "Knuckles has nothing left" and that "he needs status and good optics" they are retarded fake fans
>>587693134
>>587693134>where only his movie version is competent.And has a good reason why he is comfortable being his Sonic and Tails and not be the baby sitter of the master emerald. Seriously, he will have to coach game knuckles to improve that guy’s life.
>>587693181No?>another short where everyone sucks off sonic
>>587693215Vermin.
*headpats your OC*
Honey vs. Mina be like
>>587692412Hey, if you're still around, I have a small request:
>>587686875Wow imagine if all of that was in an actual cutscene
>>587693190If Shadow can't take Metal "buffed" by like 10% of Sonic's skill (assuming it even works this way and it's not just metal being at Sonic's level) when he has KNUCKLES as back-up then he's getting absolutely folded by Sonic. Don't blame me for what's on screen.
Chudow lost to "super" in his base, ain't no shame in that. Anything before that was just a warmup
>>587693323It was fine up until the backwards knee snapping.
Sonic is over now
>>587693382Youre taking whats on screen and formulating some further headcanon about how Shadow vs Sonic goes110% is more than 100%, and Knuckles was literally trivialized immediately so there was no backup
>>587693339You corrected the headband to be in front of the ears as it should but you accidentally blacked out her tongue.
Shadow checking Amy out
>>587693415Why do you keep reposting this retarded tweet
>>587693408On the contrary, it just started.
>>587693374You dont like being forced to play the game?
I can't be the only one who thinks it's fucking weird that someone has apparently been on here for over 10 years and remembers shit that happen as far back as 2015. Like dude get a fucking life holy shit.
>>587693442See?
>>587693509Careful, he'll start getting possessive of the thread like he owns it and then call you a newfag while posting his plebbit ocs
>>587693509In case you hadn't noticed, these generals are ground zero for schizophrenic autism.
>>587693509Who are you talking to or referencing? I'm lost.
I had a dream that a new Sonic came out and my OTP was having sex onscreen. I was so shocked that I opened sthg to talk about it and no one believed me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPU5u-b9CkI
>>587693231You know how Solaris has a past and future counterparts that were born as gods for Shadow and Silver to deal with that will destroy the world? Mephiles and Iblis. The present is missing. The one that would represent Sonic.Infinite is the only one that is born a mortal in Sonic’s present to become a God by forces outside of time and space. And what he tries and almost succeeds in his newfound divinity is use the sun to kill them all. Basically. Like Sonic, Infinite is destined to be the strongest being alive. And those events that caused him to achieve it and regain it are tied to mephiles setting down the pieces. Infinite’s body is and powers are made up of 4d cubes. He’s a four dimensional being.
>>587693339>Honey's expression in the old version:
>>587693717Thats really funny you almost had me there
>>587685362Idk why do you guys pretend latam post means anything.
>>587693665ok but what was the OTP
>>587686806Omega going on one of his usual ANNIHILATE ALL EGGMAN ROBOTS rampages, only for Sage to assume direct control of them Harbinger-style and making it more difficult for him.
>>587693820Sage and Tails
>>587693898I don't believe you
>>587693802This general is like 40% LatAmPosters trying not to be, anon.
>>587693967That's just 4chan as a whole at this point, man.
>>587693967I don’t believe you.
>>587686285Unforutnately normies and redditors are going to like it and you are going to get more of it
I can't believe sonamyfags made sonic act this ooc so they can have crumbs for their crackship
>>587693967I believe you.
Hi Fionafag. How you doing?
>>587694019I don't believe you
>>587693967But I was told it was mostly femanons.Are you telling me I was in hot-chick heaven this WHOLE time?!
>>587691529Silver and Blaze are supposed to reunite only once in a blue moon normally, and if 06 succeeded their reunion would probably be a bigger event in awakening than a nod at colors ds. it's not really supposed to be super shippy or even something you see commonly in the first place but their plans died + we re in full corporate era now.
>>587694135Nothing happened for a week, just staring at the ceiling. Hopefully the other fiona did something meaninful.
>>587693783Infinite’s names of Zero and Infinite is a reference to Jesus’ Alpha and Omega. infinite is a Jackal and they live in the desert. The recent villainous jackal is Egyptian. The Middle East where the mortal God was born.The jackal squad was comprised of seven members. The divine number. With the last member being a 6 in his name. Solaris had six fingers. Six blades behind his back. And six pronounced horn things.
Sonic is too corporate now, movienic took over and normies will defend it so we re forever going to stay that way, its over.
new broke of cocomelon
>>587694434>Infinite’s names of Zero and Infinite is a reference to Jesus’ Alpha and Omega.No. zero and infinite mean nothing and everything. Alpha and omega mean beginning and end
>>587694485I think the digital delay is that they wisened up on piracy
>>587693473Yeah,was >>587693415 even a Valentine's tweet? Can't help but notice the date was cropped out. CURIOUS. Almost like you can put any two characters together and write the same exact post...
>>587694334The bigger problems with the concept is that silver and blaze would have two different worlds when sonic team can’t even juggle the main one they already have. The main one that is currently being fixed up after decades of wonky plans.You say it’s corporate era but honestly the big epic plans for Blaze and Silver were a bad idea from the start that had zero pay offs, ever. And Sonic struggled hard to even find a good gameplay style/formula which makes Blaze and silver an even bigger obstacle in just getting Silver’s gimmick to work.
>>587693546I'm being mandela'd, I could have sworn Honey didn't have a tongue
>>587694760Excelente! Don't worry, it happens to the best of us.
>>587694489Zero is the beginning.Infinite is the end. Both values are inherently divine. To exist when nothing existed. And to truly exist as an infinite being. The quality only Solaris would have. He also poses like Mephiles. As well as having the yellow glowing eyes of Mephiles, Iblis, and Solaris. And a crystal like structure on his chest, where the core of Solaris was located at in his second form. And from that crystal, he has the divinity of Iblis, Mephiles, and Solaris, the being that loos like they’re made of crystals.So like the messiah, if you have seen him, you have seen his father. And he is fully man and fully God.
im gone for a day and this place goes through 4 fucking threads?
>>587695252>Sonamy and shadouge got teased and there was a bunch of seethingSaved you like an hour of reading
plap incels
>>587695321not too surprising.
>>587690663WheretheFUCK is Vectilla!?
>>587693323Mina's actually fast, though. Like, Sonic-fast. I still think Honey would win if omly because she's one of if not THE best character in the game (gag-character clause) but out of an enclosed arena she's have trouble landing her hits.
Are you a Sonadowfag yet, anon?
>>587695892Evan made this, right?
>>587695952No but I'm pretty sure she is reading it
>>587695349Anon guys plap girls, not the other way anon. "Plap" is the sound of getting dicked and pounding against
>>587695407>sonadow got teased and there was a bunch of seethingSaved you like an hour of reading
>>587695814Is she actually Sonic fast or just "faster than Tails but slower than Shadow"
>>587695321>>587696120sonails and sonux too. it was a sonic besties show
>>587696086Girls can do that if they have the proper tools and the male is willing
>>587696156According to the wiki, uh, slower than Sonic and Tails ...
>>587696307She's getting folded like a lawn chair by Honey then.
Shadria 5ever
>>587696494
>>587696525
>>587696086There is no mistake, especially with la gata.
>>587696494maekawa confirmed they took naked baths together
>>587695046You reminded me that I left headband without a proper outline, so I edited it to have one now
More Eggstein files just dropped. You won't believe who shows up in there.
>>587696776Elon Tusk?
>>587696593Oh that's what he meant by putting the past behind him.
>>587667026>completely overrated>Of course, I don't have ears...Why did Nicole feel the need to comment?
>>587696838>Not Elon Muskrat
>>587696691And all is well in the world
>>587696776...Yeah, I show up. Because the people in the files are fans of Honey Clothing. Anyone claiming anything more are bad journos doing poor research for clickbait. And AI. Definitely AI.
"My favorite character is Honey the Cat and I don't have a femdom fetish!"
>>587696870he meant she pegs him obv
Honey the Cat and Mina Mongoose both touched little fox boys inappropriately
>>587694485Storytime next thread?Did Eggman fucking die?Normally you end your cliffhangers when the good guy is on the ropes, not the bad guy...
>>587697342For Mina Mongoose it's more like
>>587694485>>587697371Not Sonic. Fuck off.
>>587697427Kys tranny
>>587697427I wonder (Who) could be behind this post...
Is that Manga still shit
>>587697371Hows it gonna be storytime if digital is pushed back
>>587697371I bought and storytimed the last few. I don't feel like doing it anymore. Most of you guys don't like Sonic enough for it feel worth it.
Nani!!!
>>587697542Sure bro
>>587697542Sad.
According to sthg only 10 people like Sonic
stfu
>>5876977169 people. I no longer like Sonic
>>5876977798 people. My empathy toeards your struggle has touched me.
>>587697779we know dougebag
Would you play it?
>>587686806More Sonic SatAm RTS cutscenes, please.
>>5876978507 people. One anon thought Sonic ate rings like onion rings and choked on a gold ring and died.
>>587697937>shadow at club rouge for no reasoni don't play ooc bullshit
>>587697937Depends on the roster
>>587697991How would you know it's for no reason if you haven't played it?
>>587697991He stayed there constantly in Sonic Battle, fake fan..
>>5876979686 people. I listened to the haters and decided to "grow up" and realize Sonic isnt for me anymore
>>587698153He was dragged there unconscious and then left as soon as he was better
>>587698249He hid himself while he repaired himself?!
>>587698249He willingly stayed there throughout the whole game, even after he woke up.
>>5876981625 people. Another anon just permanently hooked himself up to a VR sim where he's Tails and he gets raped by hags. Nutrients are given via IV. He is nothing but a body now.
>>587698425I kept him therewe fucked every night
>>587698425no he didn't he was so eager to leave that rouge spazzed out
>>5876984634 people, I prefer Vector anyway.
sthg is too retarded to count to 10
>>587698502>Heh. Ally.Wow he sounds so eager to leave
>>587698528 *4..>>587698542 *3..how much lower can it go??
>>587698528Anon, did you realize you...LIKE SONIC?!??
>>587698608He leaves right after that kek
>>5876986692 people. My brother autistic brother was killed in a drug deal gone wrong. I'm holding an auction for all his Sonic figurines, just ask for the link if you're interested.
>>5876988461 (or 2, IDK).I came to the realization that I wanted to be like Sonic, not that I--Wait, what was the question, again?
>>587698818He's with Rouge for the whole game until his story. His story is the 2nd to last story btw. Even if he leaves once, he goes back throughout the game. Like when he was fighting Tails.
Who can like Sonic!?
>>587698608He leaves as soon as he can speakRouge: Hiii! Good morning, Shadow! So the prince has finally woken up!Shadow: I must go... To the Gizoid... ...to Emerl...Rouge: Hey, wait!! Go out if you like, but just don't collapse outside again...! Who do you think carried you here, anyway!!Shadow: You did...?Rouge: Y-yes, that's right...! N-not even a word of thanks? That's just the kind of guy you are! Honestly, men are always like that...
>>587698929no he's not. why do rougepedos lie like this. it won't make your shitty selfinsertslop canon. you sound like tailsfags who say that one battle scene means rouge fucked tails.
>>587698990
>>587692441Nah, it's cooler to have a character who CAN talk but CHOOSES not to.
>>587699060It's just one guy, he's been spamming on cooldown for 20 hours now.
>>587699060>no he's not.Play the games.>rougepedosYou've got issues.
>>587699154i played the game twice delusional shipper scum like you should be shot so you stop shitting up game discussion.
>>587699001>I cannot allow myself to die just yet. I must destroy the Gizoid and save humanity>Some internet anon: Wow he's so eager to leave Club Rouge!
>>587699271Yes. Play the game.
>>587699221So tell me deranged anon, what happens after Tails fights Shadow in Central City in Sonic Battle? Assuming you know what any of that is considering you're a fake fan.
>>587699360>>587699360>>587699360
>>587699325What the fuck do you mean play the game??? I just quoted the fucking game! Arguing with schizos is actually pointless.
>>587699138No, it shits in the face of thematics regarding Eggman's view and treatment of Metal vs Neo
>>587699356They go to the doctor's mother computer retard
>>587699906So they fought Shadow then went to the mother computer? Rouge is the one who stopped the fight and you don't even know that. Stop larping already.
>>587697542I love Sonic and BoC. I think you're right though about most people unfortunately
>>587676419This post is cancer
>>587678736>grew Kit and Surge's cells from Tails and Sonic's DNAHe didn't. He didnt even get Sonic DNA for Surge. Only Tails for Kit, and he only used it for data.
>>587679941I support it>>587680162>confessions of a friendless loser
>>587694692They would probably make spinoffs for other characters(they showed interest in it) if not for stupid firends era and financial loss.
>>587680980It was done in a way that was acceptable. There was intention with it. It's Sonic's unfiltered feelings in the mindscape so it works for me. It shows an agknowledgement and respect for who he is as a person. That's all I ask.And yes I loved it. I'm happy for Tailsbros.
>>587702034Yep, it's pretty great. Also I love that scene in Japanese
>>587697427It's more Sonic than that shit we got yesterday.
This is boring me, I demand a serious story that changes the status quo god dammitWe've got Silver coming back time and time again because of mysterious portals We've got Dodonpa who knows way too fucking much about everyone to be a mere galactic tech mongoel We've got the sol emeralds apparently not scattering whenever Blaze calls upon their power to go Burning like the Chaos emeralds do and lwys send Blaze to Sonic's side and vice versa whenever either is in danger going by Channel stories and IDWWe've got Marine being confirmed to have water powers greater than Kit's We've got Infinite alive again and on the lam We've got official acknowledgement that Honey exists We've got official acknowledgement that Sticks existsWe've got official acknowledgement that Mighty, Ray, Trip, Fang, Bean and Bark still exist even if the cast hasn't met up with them in yearsWe've had official acknowledgement that the people who built Ariem's system may be the same people who built Starfall IslandYou've got all these pieces,, let's make an exciting puzzle that shows something new! A massive adventure that involves not only world travel by transparent dimensions and time itself! let's, let's LET'S GO CRAZY FOR ONCE IN THIS MUNDANE SAFE HAVEN AND MAKE A SCENE UNLIKE ANY OTHER
>>587704619>that changes the status quoPlease no>We've had official acknowledgement that the people who built Ariem's system may be the same people who built Starfall IslandHuhhhh???>You've got all these pieces,, let's make an exciting puzzle that shows something new!I would like that too...
If you guys don't stop acting strange I'm gonna go into detail on what each girl is like in the cowgirl position
>>587695321>shadougeNo there wasnt lul
>>587699271Shipping is mental illness
