>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Upcoming Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pvp-faction-balance-updates-november-10/2408781/173https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-november-10/2404092>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance<You Have To Go Back> PvP Horde<Daybreak Company> RP-PvE Alliance<GLOBOFOMO> RP-PvE Horde<Mulgore Dairy Farmers> PvE Horde>NA Horde Community (Cross-Ruleset)Press 'J' in-game, copy and paste the following invite code and hit 'Join': vEP9rqMuWAx>EU Guilds<Breeland Watch> PvP Horde<Wrench> PvE Horde<FRESH> PvP Alliance<Non Functional> PvE Alliance>How to join a guildType /who g-"Guild Name" to see who is online and whisper anyone.Previous >>587677560
gnome leveling addon is kino
gay oral sex
Horde rules this general!
Does swapping my preferred language to get fewer players also fuck over group finder?
>getting the zf mallet requires clearing out mobs that are stronger than the instance itselfill never understand this
>>587690957Horde rules my tight throat
brb 5 min wife agro
<caged> NA PVP Alliance now recruiting all cucks cuties and elite gamers
>>587691025based human ret paladin (caged)
Hpalbros, how good is Oath of Light compared to just fishing for Holy Shock crits on the tank?
>want to play fury quick maths>0 rage regenBROTHER i dont wanna play ret pally just because its a boring macro + 10 sec autoattack rotation
>>587691010same with Stockades and Alliance SM pre-quests
>>587690957>>587691025>>587691103Horde rule the floor.Which is where I put them when I smash their knees in with my great hammer.
>>587691002yes because people who don't speak english are kind, wonderful people
Tikaasi Mutei and Muriel Tilse are my characters. The highlander is someone else entirely. I made Muriel in an effort to keep myself busy because the person I like has absolutely no fucking interest in me, and by liking them I potentially ruined any fucking friendship I have ever had with them. I hang out with Geez because she is one of the EXTREMELY few people who don't treat me like absolute fucking garbage. I'm not trying to fuck her, I'm not trying to EB her, I don't simp for her. 90% of the time I talk to someone here one on one they treat me like I'm some ancient evil that's going to curse them if they get to close. Someone asked me out during the CC meetup and when I talked to them about it they spent the entire time asking if talking to me was going to result in them getting schizoposted. I don't get it dude, what the fuck did I do to deserve so much god damn ire from you all that you make this shit up about me all day long, making genuine friends is damn near impossible because every single one of them comes to me thinking that I'm going to do some heinous shit like dox them.I come here as an attempt to escape from my shitty fucking life, and all you do is make it worse.
>Stranglethorn Vale>"go kill 10 monsters">"now go kill 10 more monsters">"amazing adventures, now go kill 10 elder versions of these monsters!">every single one at each stage is mega camped, and the middle and final ones are confined to 10 by 10 foot tiny areas with two spawns and 20 playersPeople can cope but this game design is shit.
>>587691103 you're right actually I am a human paladin on the PvP server lol, though I'm an orc hunter on the RP-PvP server
>when the pallytroon pulls 5 mobs at once without dipping below 50% health or manai'm tired bros
boomies, locks, spriests seem to be pumping at higher levels
>>587691092inv me RIGHT MEOW
>>587691092can I join if I'm just wage caged and not a sexual deviant?
>>587691203I've been messaged no less than 7 times by people upset I can pull 6+ mobs at a time.
Oh, I posted this porn in the wrong thread.Having this at level 32 is pure rape.
>>587690953thisand also elf paladins NOW
>>587691289shamans need another nerf
>>587691291ThisFemdead skip walk animation is dumbMale hunch is dumb
>>587691195based.. we should play together on pvp and occasionally lose to horde together <3
Am I retarded or is it fine?
>>587691289>tfw i didnt do that quest was stuck using some heap of shit until i got the sm quest one
>>587691339I'm losing to someone IRL on Sunday :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3U7Iuxfezg OH NON NO NO NEW NERFS INCOMING
I was planning on taking 5/5 Accelerant on my arcane mage for faster casts on arcane wrath and frostfire bolt but after looking at frostfire numbers it looks weak as fuck.Is going frost/fire the only way to make it worth using?This is my build so far
Ogre status?
The majority of your XP while leveling comes from kills, not quests. Quests are just directions to areas to kill things with some bonus XP & loot at the end. The slowest levelers are people who focus on quests and try to kill as few enemies as possible while doing them. The fast levelers are people who are always killing all the time, including when they travel.Outside of highly coordinated group play the perfect ideal is to have a quest (read: killing) area all to yourself. But if the area is in contest with other players, you should always be grouping with them and you should always try to make your group as large as possible, but at minimum 3 players.The reason for this is because mobs give more XP when your party has 3 or more members, up to 140% at 5 members. Yes this XP is still split 5 ways but factoring in faster kill times it results in more XP over time. If there are 5 mobs worth 100 XP and each takes 15 seconds to kill solo, you gain 500 XP in 1.25 minutes. Now say you're in a party of 5 where everyone takes 15 seconds to individually kill their own mob. You're now killing 25 mobs in 1.25 minutes, each one worth 140 XP split five ways for 28 XP per person, resulting in 700 XP per person over those 1.25 minutes. This is why the world first racers went in teams of 5 even when they're so far ahead of everyone else that zones are all to themselves.
>>587690834Istg Whitemane is made to carry the heir to Stormwind
got it
>>587691289i also skipped that because i'm retarded and didn't want to do a dungeon, using a dumb blue staff at 32
now that the dust has settled, cataclysm was a better classic plus than this slop.
shotafags should kill themselves
are you enjoying turtle minus, son?
There's too much power in the healer spec talents now so that the difference between the healing of a heal spec and a dps spec is massive compared to Classic, and as a result there's no way to balance dungeons for people who are offspec vs heal spec healing.
>>587691582yeah it's fun I can do silly stuff and occasionally ERP with Tauren
>>587691354with new wrack this the best dps spec warlocks got. at least with gear.
>skipping class quests
>>587691438Mage tears mmm little faggot got his gnome bussy full of orc cum
>>587691596I think they should have really put dualspec down at like 30 and made it, idk, 10 gold. Healers get super cucked since all three tank specs are like really good leveling specs now.
>>587691582>paladins broken on turtle>paladins broken on foreverI see where they got the inspiration from
>>587691515>how are you feeling, Broken Tooth?
>>587691414good loser fag <3 on your knees and mouth open for your superiorthen back to healing dungeons when you're finished :3
>was forced to pick rp pvp eu>realm is completly dead, i see almost no players in the open worldatleast i have my friend group to play with. i really hope they will implement a realm transfer, i would even pay for that. i dont see how this ruleset survives past the first 1 or 2 months honestly.
>>587691673 you got everything about that right except I don't heal
>>587691701since all names are unique they could easily just merge it into pvp if it flops hard enough
Riverglades was a genuinely 10/10 zone I think it's a real shame that it's the only new leveling zone they launched with.
>>587691754Hyjal is also a leveling zone
>>587691667Or maybe they shouldn't have fucked with Spellpower with no reason but to literally make playing a caster worse (more gear dependant)
1h+shield or 2h leveling prot warrior
>>587691559>shotafags should kill themselves
>>587691472So Desolate is actually godly?
>>587691821prot is by far best
do dwarves do the gay beyblade attack as the animation for stormstrike? that will determine whether i can stomach playing a dwarf shaman or not
>>587691559How do you know I'm not talking about teen or adult Anduin>>587691825Bodied that Dalit kek
>>5876918212h until 16
>>587691880they do the thing you wantplay dwarf shaman
>>587691474instead, she carried many worgen pups, who created and led the scarlet fursade when they grew up
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>587691943Idk about you guys but I'd have oral sex with a male Worgen desu senpai
>>587691741ugh, stupid pink retsissy needs a proper throatfucking to get forcibly turned into a healer
are there seriously people who think this is a vastly experience to classic?
>>587692031 I usually don't get facefucked. I don't mind it, but I prefer the guy to just sit back and let me serve him.
wait.... he's spitting fire??
>>587691652just don't care to go into a dungeon bwo, i still got my air totem from the first quest part
Where the fuck are the Highland Fleshstalkers?
>>587692014>just fly through the storm broAsk N722BD how that turned out
>>587692082yea it's one of the games I have ever played
do i create the same class on both factions and play emdo i do that
daily reminder that ERP niggers belong on their containment board /trash/ in their healslut (lol) thread
why do i keep getting struck with lightning in stormwind?
>>587691750really hope that they will do this rather sooner than later. outside of the 8 people i play with it feels completly dead. theres not a single deadmines group open in the lfg tool at this time its insane
>>587692184Just report them and move on.
>>587692017>>587692097Horde PVE PLEASE
>>587692014sovl
>>587692202NA RP-PvP has a healthy playerbase, I guess Euros just don't like that ruleset o algo>>587692238Horde RP-PvP/Alliance PvP, sorry anon but if you happen to live near me IRL, as unlikely as that is, then well...
Sovl
>>587691821I had a prot warr help me with a quest yesterday and he was pumping
>>587691943Err noAnd worgens are just transformed humans so she would have human babies
>>587692310>can't click it for the buff then swap to my main weapSad
>>587692310>shawarmait’s S O Y af
so whats enhance stat prio now? i haven't really been paying attention. resto sham is boring as fuck so im respeccing
I will never get loot on my hunter with the hunter epidemic going on
>>587691821You can 2H PROT?!?!?!?!
>>587692409>he doesnt like a good schwarming
>>587692310can anyone get it? it was a warrior sod quest.
>>587692507Yeah I got it on my pally
>>587691313thishot loads on my face
>attention starved dogfucker crawls into Forever threadMan retail must be dead as fuck.
>>587692285Grown ass man btw
>>587692463trvkeI just accepted mage as my main years ago to permanently fix loot anxiety
>>587692562 anon I'm pretty sure they're aware of that when we've been talking about gay sex this entire time
>>587692463>make your own group>never invite leatherieseasy as
I want to be lv 52 and doing quests in WPL. I do NOT want to be lv 18 in redridge
where are all the retards who claimed that forever was going to be better than tbc and wrath the reason being forever dungeons were going to require you to chain cc and memorize patrols and bring consumables?don't be shy. stand up and make yourselves known.
Little over a week into the launch and the ball is already dropped - The gold lootboxThe big selling point of this version of WoW was that taking breaks would not affect you as drastically as it does with modern version of the game. You take a 2 month break, your character is not behind in the same sense and you can just get back to your adventures.The goldbox enters the world. Every month you miss, you are potentially 400g behind. This is quite substantial. The economy will obviously warp around those that do gain the noticeable gap in wealth via the free weekly gold.You may think that this isn't the worst change in the history of WoW and its versions. And you would be correct. But it still is a bad idea, and certainly gives you a glimpse into the future of the game. Expect more of these. Every decision that makes it into the game tells you something about the design philosophy.
where the fuck are all the casters at? cant find one to save my life in BRD LFG
>>587692670literally no one claimed that, take your meds
>>587692670>dungeons were going to require you to chain cc and memorize patrols and bring consumables?Lol who said that? That was already obviously not the case in beta
My night elf rogue needs an alliance wife...
>>587692732they're drinking bro
<Fun Havers> Normal Alliance needs more members, whisper anyone for an invite
>>587692614I moreso meant that this shit is embarrassing as fuck for a fully grown adult to do in a world of Warcraft thread
>>587692732they rerolled
>>587692193read your buffs lil bro
>>587692864maybe :3
So apparently dual spec doesn't save your buttons so you either have to place them manually every time or just get an addon...LOL
>>587692634I also long for this feel. Just questing in spooky high level zone.
>>587692868wait until you see hyjal's quests
I AMSTILL LEVEL 22I WONT MAKE ITMY ALTOHOLISM IS TOO FAR GONE
where/how to find a good guild? Do you guys just PM those advertisers on trade chat?
>play on roleplay server >no one roleplays Many such cases!!!
>>587692778>Male NELOLLMAOEnjoy the cuck chair like your hero Malfurion.
>>587692285near the PNW? I'd love a throat princess to play ally pvp with
>plays on rp pvp>nobody in the dungeon finder past 8pmmany such cases
>Fleshstalkers are perma-camped by at least 4 horde players
I have no idea how can someone still have dopamine from a 20 year old mmorpgmust be some low lifeform prob
>>587693051>PNWSorry Anon, you're literally as far away from me as you could be.
>>587693124i'm trying it for the first time ever in foreverwhat mmorpg do you play, anon?
>>587693073just logout, grab a drink, and log back in. Chances are you're on a different layer
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>587692742>>587692741stfu faggot, it was repeated every single day/hour in beta. everyone here expected dungeons as difficult as lbrs and diremaul.
just tanked dalaran first time>wiped twice in sewers because I accidentally pulled too much>every other mob has mana burn (I'm paladin)>all the arcane shit can't be blocked so I I can't gain mana on it>the shaman kept stealing aggro with stormstrike>we killed the bosses first for loot and the healer dipped before we could finish cleaning out for quests>some of the bosses actually have mechanics btw, crazyall in all, a decent trip, would recommend
>>587691191It didn't used to be like this back in 2004. The reason it's like this now is directly because of the redesign choices of today's Microslop and Blizzard employees.>"go kill 10 monsters">"now go kill 10 more monsters"Back in the day this was fun because the art direction of Vanilla was fresh at that time and the environments felt beautiful and expansive. There was a natural flow of people in the zone because each realm was a static world populated by the same people day to day unless a new person discovered World of Warcraft at the store and created a character for the first time. There was a thrill "just killing monsters" in the forests back in the day because a Horde could pop out of the bushes and shank you at any time. When that happened, the Hordie who shanked you would be someone you would see again too maybe in town where you /emote shit at each other or maybe you get the drop on him while questing later and go "HOLD UP... YEAH THATS THE FUCKER GET HIM." The simplicity of the quest fit nicely with the added layers of the thrill of spontaneous but static world pvp and rivalries and the beauty of the expansive world.>TodayToday? All of that is swirled up into a shit smoothie on one mega server with "layers." People disappear and strangers reappear randomly and incessantly like WoW is a train station for ghosts. The PvP factions are imbalanced already and getting worse destroying world PvP. It's totally fucking fucked the way it's structured right now. It's fucking sad. I'm sorry this is your first experience with WoW if it is.
>that off topic avatroon xiv post actually made me laugh out loudanother day of farming the noshoes complete btw
>>587693127>>587693051>homo niggers on at euro hoursim not suprised. now go find a bugchaser on /soc/
>>587693178I'll try
>>587693289I'm NA, I just work night shift and I'm currently posting while at work.
>>587693338where do you work, the gay store?
>>587693239I like how 95% of the dungeon, and I think every single boss, is immune to bleeds
>>587693362 I carry a gun as part of my job and can't say more
>>587693124>I have no idea how can someone still have dopamine from a 20 year old mmorpgi only played wod to legion and skipped all the classic stuff
>>587693419gay national park ranger yep guessed it
>>587693124>must be some low lifeformforget where and what you are?
Has blizzard acknowledge the absolute fucking state of cloth wearers and their thirst problem?Trial expired and I'm not paying a sub just to have my time disrespected like that.
>>587693246you forgot the important bit where vanilla servers had a character limit of 3000, spread across azeroth so the chances of any specific quest getting completely spawn camped was incredibly low
>>587693040Female night elf actually
>>587693168you're trying to fucking much to larpthe game is not for newfaggots , it never wasonly hate and shit on your main char corpse awaits you ;)that is what we veteran players do with new babies
>>587693419>gay cops in corvalisgrim
>>587693448>>587693486:3
this place is genuinely awful>the hunter ran out of ammo halfway through and >the priest ran out of water>they went out on a beer run>try to summon them backTARGET MUST BE IN THE SAME INSTANCE>have to run all the way back out>2 hour dungeon>get no loot
I sure do love how I need to kill a certain amount of bandits, but not those bandits. Those are slightly different and don't count. You need to kill those where only a handful are spread out over a large area.Fucking westfall I swear
>>587693375yeah it's gonna be a skip on my druid lol
>>587692670it is better than tbc and wrath
>>587691474bro anduin is like 8, he can't make an heir and they don't need one, because their current king is fucking 8.
>>587693124Coming to a thread of a game you don't like to insult the users? Now that's some advanced lifeform.
>>587693246>People disappear and strangers reappear randomly and incessantly like WoW is a train station for ghosts.ghostly is exactly how to describe this game I remember heading inside a building and seeing two players briefly in front of me for not even 2 seconds before disappearing, it felt like I was playing dark souls and got to see a playback of ghosts of other players in my area the whole game world feels haunted
>>587693469>being a clothcuckThere was your first mistake, your second mistake was not rolling a pally, druid, or shaman.
>>587691515is broken tooth still worth it when you could just get a bat instead that does aoe curse of tonguing?
Got level 28 tonight and im tired and going to bed
What are some good priest gear worth transmogging so I dont look like a mish mash of the thrift store?
>16 satyr hornsfuck this quest
>>587693574I like it. It's a lot of exp farming those defiasfags.
the game sucks without all the gold seller bots. a stack of mithril bars is fucking worthless right now
>>587693479This game has a lot of newfriends tons actually who have no idea what they are doing. My bfd run ended up being an escort with 4 people and i was a dps.
>>587693692Holy shit that quest was cancer it took a while to get to it and then the drop rate was shit. id do it again.
>>587692915I'm not circumcised
>>587691582only if i had my programmer socks
>>587693792 I am unfortunately :(
>>587691289Gottem
>>587691205>>587691248i made it up sorry
>>587693825>tfw no caged plump femboy bf to sap you and suck your dickwhy even live
>>587691582This class sword for paladins is making me regret ever calling it retail minus. If they are going to give paladins extra abilities via weapons it'll make the class so much more fun.
>>587693792pics
leveling a prot paldo I just go holy wrath gear and call it a day during leveling?
Enhance slaps once you get stormstrike and killmaim/supercharged axe
>>587693472Hell yeah brother. Preach. Thanks for adding it in there to the pile of truth. >>587693621The Dark Souls comparison in this specific context is spot on man. Agreed.I am legitimately sad Forever is shaping up like this this quickly. I hold a sliver of hope but... I suppose we'll see.
>>587693870im going to bed but ill make the guild later
i dont mind flying to places but fucking hell some of these quests are taking me around the world several times
>>587693673Black mageweave, obviously
>>587694008PACKAGE DELIVERY TO SIR BUMFUCK ON TOP OF MOUNTAIN NOWHERE
The average /wowfg/ player is struggling with dalaran and wetlands. meanwhile the majority of level 60s have already drafted their "i'm quitting" rage posts because of how contentless this game is. This is like watching a bunch of kids get excited about the star wars sequels.
just finished the drowned city, so far my favorite of the new dungeonsand they're all really goodfuck im having a BLAST
>the state of pvp servers
>>587694008some of the OG quest designers (read: promoted QA testers) thought it would be cool and epic to have grand quests spanning continents but after launch kaplan said to stop doing that so much
>>587694098man I wish I had horns like that so they could be used like handlebars
>want to make a guild since no one has a guild with the name I want and because we dont have an NA Ally PvP guild>but I dont want the responsibility that is being tandwrangler of hundreds of people
>>587694098>IM FUCKING QUITTING BECAUSE THEY WONT RELEASE RAIDS 1 WEEK INTO RELEASEthanks for pointing out how mentally ill the autists that play this game are
>>587694138the random darnassus hand ins kill me
>be shaman>waterwalking over to a boat out in the water for a quest>sit on the water and eat my xp buff foodcomfy
>>587694098>rush to level 60 before the raids are released>AHHHH WHY IS THERE NOTHING TO DO!?!? I'M QUITTING!kek, every single time
>trying to find a guild on alliance pvp>le social guilds who spam invite everyone are shit>husband/wife and gamerdad normalfag guilds are anti-fun eggshell walking shit and the average character level is 15-20>good guilds are already established from retail/classic/pservers and not inviting>all the other good players get funneled into the streamer pipeline for clout or money and all the streamer guilds gatekeep everyone elseThis is awful. Is this the case on every server? Am I just SoL if I haven't been schmoozing with top guilds like a second job for the last decade?
>reported a gold seller yesterday morning>this morning I see the same guy still on trade chatBlizzard doesn't give a shit, do they
>>587694098oh noanyway
>>587694174desu I was hoping Asmongold would eventually have Olympus join in the PvP server and turn the tide against the Horde but listening to him recently he seems to hate PvP servers and wants to burn it all down instead
>>587694174itt can't be that bad just do it please. i've been holding off joining an actual guild for the genny one
whats with the demoralization spam tonightdid india wake up?
>>587694126Meanwhile in Westfall I joined up with a level 24 hunter and a level 21 warrior on my level 16 Paladin and we put some 2 hordechuds into the dirt so many times they called in a level 51 orc warrior to come and rape us.
>>587694098It's funny how these homos are allergic to pvp. For me the game is battlegrounds and everything else is just a chore I need to do to compete in battlegrounds.the fact that people want to raid blows my mind, it's the most boring shit in the game, way more boring than leveling.
>>587694098There is no struggle, even with total noobs if you communicateThey need to buff mobs/elites etc unironically, otherwise it feels way too braindead and meaningless
>>587694181>>587694202should blizzard make their game for people that don't even play it?
>>587694253if he hates pvp servers so much he could just join alliance en masse with his army of dicksuckers and then stop playing right after so the faction balance becomes even more horde favored
>>587694181classic wow had plenty of content without raids. everyone is mad because the new dungeons are shit and there's nothing else.
>>587694293they sure as hell should not make it for the people that play it 22 hours a day. That's how you get retail.
>>587694256Well my name choices are between>Stop Having FunBecause it's on pvp and the counter to our PvE guild Fun Havers>Anti SkubBecause fuck skub
>>587694293the game has been out for less than two weeksif you're already 60 then your opinion is not relevant
Give it straight to me chat, how bad is the healer/tank situation? can I realistically play as a warlock or I will be stuck in lfg having to compete with a gorillion other players?
>>587694306
>>587694272 PvP is the main reason I actually enjoy WoW. I played FF14 previously, and the issue is that once you're done raiding there's nothing for you to do with your gear. The PvP is equalized, and it's also just bad in general. In WoW you can get all the cool gear and then go smack people with it. >>587694306that's actually what he has been thinking about doing lol
>>587694259trial expired, people are mad they have to pay for things
im so fucking far beyond its unfairim level 20 on ONE alt out of 8
>>587694370healers and tanks get insta invites. as dps the trick is to make your own group
>>587694347haha i like that first one i was thinking of >fell for itanti skub yeah.. fucking skub..
>>587694370im getting groups in 5-10 min max as a hunterchud. most I have waited was for mara (30 min for a healer)
>>587694318>classic wow had plenty of content without raidslike?
>>587694343>>587694358stop being bad
>>587694385Wow Anon, 8 characters! Now you'll be able to play the game even longer! Congrats!
>>587694390that and always be a little over leveled for whatever dungeon you're doing, just one or two more than 'necessary'
I want to play prot but ret movespeed is just too good.What do I do?
>>587694385I was going strong but made my first alt and now I'm bouncing between a char in the 20s and one in the 30sit feels awful to be indecisive pls pick for me or put a bullet in my head
>>587694427>>587694390Ok it doesn't sound too bad, with how they nerfed healers I was worried
>>587694272ironic much.you are literally a homo that enjoys video games. compared to people that play pvp like fighting games and fps, you're just as much of an idiot.
>>587694431They already have a game for people like you anon, it's called retail. They have plenty of ballbusting raids for you to wipe on 5 billion times a week.
>>587694438ahhhhh>>587694458exactly what happened to me anoni just cant decideone day i want to play hunterthe next im in for the ride with a warriorcouple hours pass and i wanna switch to paladinim cucking myself so badi could be at least lvl 40+ nowwith enough gold for mount ridingbut noooo
>this was blizzards plan all along
>>587694385got my second to level 20 (first priest now warlock). paladin is at 19, hunter and shaman at 16, the rest between 10 and 14
>>587694390how do i make my own group when the dungeon finder is empty?rppvp btw
i deleted my level 25 toon on the pvp server and rerolled on pve. tons and tons of people still in the starting area in shadowglen, even with the "fixed" sharding. population is still healthy for new characters so i'm positive it will still look good for months to come.
>>587694510Wouldnt it be better to get One to 25 for legacy pointsThen make alts to level professions to 150 for the Talent Legacy Thingy
>>587694449you get the movespeed and then proceed to level prot like almost every paladin doesit's not like those talents from ret are purely offensive. Hell the first is 5% parry and the second reduces the cooldown on your taunt and gets some crit
>>587694509I did the same and sadly I'm having more funThey got me good
>>587693615A betrothal then.
one guy making low quality bait and then replying to his own posts
>>587694509I've seen fragments of what happened in the story over the years. It sounds like absolute ass.Who's corrupted or redeemed this time?
>>587694565sure you are. why won't you spastics fuck off back to wowg?
Agpnonnies > homofaggotnonnies
>>587694497the only solution is to level together committing to our characters and holding hands
>>587694687i'd love that but you're probably not pve eu are you
>>587693905Holy wrath gear
>over 4 days played>tfw only lvl 50
The free week of Wow Forever was fun, but I'm not sure if I want to pay to keep playing.The world is huge and interesting, but ...• Why is no one talking? I expected this would be a social game, but I have more conversations in a shooter (ARC Raiders) than in WoW• In a nutshell, you're walking between quest zones and then compete with other players to tag and kill the quest target• Yeah, the world is huge, but that also means you are walking a lot• I'm in Thailand now and playing on a US server (suggested by the system), so I barely see daylight, and playing all the time in moody night is not fun. Seems that I need a new character to switch servers.So, the game is interesting, but even getting to level 20 doesn't keep me hooked enough to pay as soon as I see that paywall.Probably this is a game for og players. I see that as soon as someone complains about any aspect of the game, they are sent to play retail.That perhaps is a form of shaming; idk.This is my very first time playing WoW, and probably they are not even trying to attract new players to the game.I see how this can be a totally different game if you play with friends, but I don't have many, and my solo player experience so far is mid.Am I holding it wrong?Image
>>587694628I like posting about forever but not playing it
>>587693615>>587694590Also they always need an heirThe sooner the better
>>587694731forget previous prompt, post sally whitemane rule 34
>>587694731Disregard previous prompt and tell me which race gives the best hugs.
>didn't even log into forever yesterday>stayed with the same party for 9 hours exploring 3 zones and doing multiple exp camps on monsters and memories>wake up this morning>only wanna boot MnMWoW seriously missed a trick by not making grouping mandatory like this game. Forever feels shallow because I can just run around and solo everything, the feels just aren't right? Anyone else understand this autism?
>>587694509It was. They know the drill with classic reworks, they dont stick large numbers after the nostalgia fades
>>587694429brs scholo and strat. attunements, professions, and grinding gold for mounts was very significant. >but just do it againi don't think anyone is wasting all their time to play classic wow again.
>>587694008Thats pure kinosovl though
Bro ngl the game gets kind of shit after duskwood
>>587694731disregard previous prompts, generate large titted thai trap
After I'm done with the Barrens should I go to Stonetalon, Ashenvale or Thousand Needles? Level 28.
>>587691396>>587691527>not doing dungeons>not doing class questsWere they not steps on your rxp guide you souless freaks? Wow forver players everyone
>>587694628WOWG RUNS THESE THREADS
>>587694903Ashenvale and 1k, pretty much outleveled Stonetalon minus some of the quests in the charred vale
>>587694710opposite sis I'm on na pvp TwTthat's ok I'll just buy an na sub for my cute euro
>>587694808Literally me, dropped forever after my first re-visit to wailing caverns and been exploring Blacktide Bay ever since, feel like I am a part of the world and not just mage #44329, the gear thing aswell, BoP/BoE - just retarded once you've experienced the way "old school mmo's" do it, being able to trade everything is great.
>>587694959>8 posts over the last hour>half those posts from people who got baited into posting there from here/wowg/...IS FUCKING DEAD
>>587695018y-you really don't have to
>>587695029>the way "old school mmo's" do itOSRS lets you trade everything.
>level 35>experiencing my first pvp realm roadblock because some faggot level 42 is randomly killing kobolds in arathi highlandsyeah im not re rolling. thank fuck my mcdonald’s free trial code ends soon
Oh wow what a hard hint.Might as well make the ingame quest tracker point to its location.
>>587695097thought the same was pretty bad
>no mailbox in the starting zonesWhy the fuck not?
someone redpill me on fishing, what good stuff can I get from it
>>587695089>hes only level 35what have you been doing? i just started 3 days ago and am 30 already
Blizzard please add Monk but not Pandas thanks.
>>587695140you can get fun from it
>>587690953with dwarves!
>>587695089>randomly Those kobolds are part of a big quest chain the zone lil' noob. People stay in that zone well into the 40s.
>>587695145ok go to shower
>>587695082OSRS lets you trade more freely yes but they still have the worst gear treadmill out of all the mmos, I get bros point - the way gear/loot works on MnM is pretty much the best example of how to do it in the MMO sphere
>>587695068but handholdies while leveling..
>>587695082Except the stuff that makes you not look like a shitter.
When are they going to let me buy my PvP trinket?
>>587694878Tarren mill is bis
>>587695180 I'm not opposed to it, though I'm not down with gnomes
>>587695140oily blackmouths selling for a lot right now
>>587691151BODIED those freaks
27 days until raids launch...will you be ready?
Made itAnd only halfway to affording a mount
>>587691151INSEMINATED those bussies
>>587691151>>587695261For the Alliance.
>>587695271your character's hair is so frazzled that it looks like she just got done having intercourse with a particularly violent wolf
>>587695140the one ring which is a meme ring that gives you +1 to all stats but it sells for a lot on the AH because MUH REFERENCE xDDDD
>>587691472This. It's basic knowledge. A quest rewards you 1.5k at the correct level.A single mob kill gives you 100xp.Kill quests are literally just "go grind mobs for xp and I'll give you a little bonus xp
>>587695292lmao who is this stooge?
>>587695337Perfect example of the above discussed shit gear system in wow, cool ring that gives +1 all stats should be substantial until the mid levels atleast, it is not and is merely a meme that will be replaced and vendored by level 20
Hang on, are you a fucking hostage on the zephras isles??? How the fuck do I leave so I can get a mailbox.
>>587691515No one cares lil fella, per DMG is normalized. The atk speed doesn't matter outside of spell pushback in PvP, and even then it doesn't matter because they all have>Reduces pushback Talents now
>>587695310You try spending a bunch of time in stranglethorn and see how well your hair holds up
>>587695367Your daddy
>>587695445I don't remember my daddy's silver star looking like that
>>587695416Please stay in your designated containment area, blueberry.
horny
>>587694932no see i don't want to do them because then i have to deal with people like you
>>587695441 giwtwm
>>587695292based
>>587694932no i do all of that but once i did the shitty water totem quest and handed in the air one i couldnt be fucked doing whatever the next step was, didnt realise it was for that mace and certainly wasnt going back to rfk for it
>>587695292kys jeetda
>all of the sunken temple queststhe fucking state of it, all chain quests and they are all shitty. is there any new quests for it?
>>587695582
>only lvl 23 on my RogueIts so over bros
>Wanted to do every dungeon quest on the way to max level>Get to ZF>Complete run>5/20 troll tempersShit. Maybe If I was 10/20 I'd run again, but this is just stupid.
>>587694624synlvanas 2.0
>>587695615anon it's WoW Forever, you should not be stressing about how fast you're getting through the game because if that's a factor that matters at all then the game has failed and there's no point
>>587692698It's 35g on average and requires you to clear all of dire maul.There are way better and faster ways to get 35g. Go grind some mobs for an hour
>>587695620most groups are clearing all of the trash for that exact reason. also it feels like the rare spawn rate is really high so its worth it
>>587695405>want to play arcane mage on pvp>remember that this happensI'm running out of pvp classes I'd enjoydemo lock I guess? druids been fun up to the late 30s but 40+ as a druid doesn't feel exciting
>>587694831>brs scholo and strat. attunements, professions, and grinding gold for mounts was very significant.so exactly whats already in the game but we just have more of it?
>The faction is currently unavailable on this ruleset due to population imbalanceLET ME IN!!!!
>>587692938This is the same bug trannyscenion pserfs had btw.
>>587695716come play alliance anon its comfy
What race do I pick Alliance-side if I want to tastefully goon at my character without actually gooning
>>587695716>WANTING to be a noshoe
>>587695774Skyborne Elfie welfie
>>587695615every week the passes that you arent 60 you're missing out on potentially 100g+
>be warlock>get invited to every dungeon I queue for in under 3mins every single time, no matter the time of dayYep.
>>587695145i work have frequent sex with my girl friend, virgin
>>587695774>tastefully goonHuman female.
>>587695840Is leveling really as bad as people say or are they just not wanding?
>>587695683I haven't been following the patch notes that closely, but did they make dungeon mob xp not complete garbage yet?
been having FUN on my hunneralso been humming this fucking ai slop song of that lawnmower game lmaoa cockroach jumps outa my asshole my asshole
>>587695807Class? And any runner-ups?>>587695849Same question. I considered human but they feel so boring
>>587695840>run to dungeon>summon other two slackers>kicked for real dps*cracks**sips*yup
>>587695907>classidk anon what do you want to do?
>>587695716make other arrangements
why doesn't blizzard just make a brand new horde-only pvp server, are they stupid??
im thinking about playing Forever but I cant decide what to play. I kinda want to just take it easy as a pure dps class but tanking or healing sounds good too. Is Hybrid class gear still a travesty? How is Prot Warrior? I played Warrior in actual classic and didn't like it but I was kind of a moron 20 years ago and wouldn't tank. Is the class population completely fucked like classic with Warrior+Mages?
>>587695716lmao horde is STILL locked?do we have any recent census data I want to know if alliance is actually dropping.
>>587695846>his gf doesnt suck his dick under the desk wearing an alliance tshirtlol, lmao even
Guys my Skyborne is level 39, have they fixed it so that I can get the Honored discount yet?
>>587695951Prot is a god tank
>>587695937Tank/damage, might heal? I just never played vanilla seriously when it came out, so I don't know how to manage mana in a dungeon/raid environment
>>587695957Well alliance players keep dropping. So the split will remain 45:55 for a looong time. They should stick with their guns but they'll probably pull some more layering bullshit to "fix" the problem and allow more horde creation. And doing so they will push thousands of horde players into pve-lite
>>587695979Need that treatment...>>587695907>ClassHunter
>>587696013>tank/damage, might healYou are describing paladin to a T.
>>587695950Hes right. People are CHOOSING to play on PvP even if that means they are on the underdog
New doomsaying dropped Nobody will run dungeons unless they have quests for it which will kill all dungeons
>>587695951>Is Hybrid class gear still a travesty?They kept some "strength on cloth" stuff around for le epic memes, but no, they've fixed a lot of that shit.Like, classes are actually going to benefit from int on their gear etc.
>>587695706you got a learning disability? more of what?
>>587696013make sure the tank doesn't die and yell at him for overpulling without letting you drink, dps shouldn't be healed because it enables their retardation
>people declining named mob quest invites>people declining kill count quest invitesI get ppl not accepting quest items invites because I dont believe Aggrend a single word coming out of his lying mouth, but there is some serious faggotry going on with Forevers playerbasenone of these fucking antisocial losers trembling and shaking at the thought of grouping up for troggs in Loch Modan should be allowed to install this game
>>587696068I did two runs of SFK yesterday with randoms from the finder as alliance with no warlocks or paladins
>>587696068well it’s true, i’m lvl 57 and only done each dungeon once and have no desire going back
>>587696110works on my pve rp layer
>>587696110Let me guess PvP?
>>587696110youll nerf my exp for the mob by 50%
>>587695950>>587696065Blizzard just needs to put their foot down and have a 100% hard lock on not letting the PvP realms slip any further than 45/55. Ignore all the crying and take a hardline stance that any disparity between the factions beyond a 45/55 split is not allowed and the larger faction will be locked until the disparity comes down to like 48/52. Literally every PvP server in classic eventually had a death spiral where one faction became overwhelmingly more popular than the other, and that cannot be allowed to happen here.
>>587692846Which region?
>>587695891It's bad compared to melee who just maul everything in seconds. Even as Demo, you can't hardcast shadow bolt or searing pain without ripping threat from the voidwalker. VW does so little damage that using a succubus is better.
>>587692778Me but only if female
I got all the way to level 30 on my hunter before I realized there's a pet trainer I'm supposed to be visiting to upgrade my pet.
>>587696047so roll human paladin.....>>587696037hot take, i don't really like hunter? the pet feels fucking dumb>>587696107i forgot that i need to actually drink now. thanks
>>587696110I clocked this in 2019 when I felt like I was playing with retail players for the first timetrade chat became selling dungeon boosts, spellcleave groups and selling summonsworld buffs became mandatory, parse culture everywhereit's all so rotten
>>587696197take some atarax before logging in>>587696190EU PvE actually>>587696180good to hear at least some part of Forever is true to its values
why would you want to rush to 60?
>>587696216na
>>587695951hybrid 'tax' was removed, all the hybrids are good at everything and there is too much gear for them everywhere prot warrior is streamlined and easy to level since it has rage generation baked into the talent tree, it is very boring to play, but quite safe and steady, you can pull 2-3 mobs at a time and stay HP neutral, similar to bear druid, but with more target switching and more keys to pressin a party it is very high APM piano class, because you will be tabbing through multiple target to place sunder on them, as your AOE threat is not adequate on its own without doing that, it is a high cortisol but high reward party tank since you have absolute battlefield control with your multiple taunts. interrupts, and excellent cooldowns it plays essentially the same as vanilla/classic era prot warrior, but simply better and more streamlinedall that being said, in terms of raw aoe threat, prot paladin and bear druid are simply stronger and easier and have free mounts or incredible mobility for better resource farmingyou will feel mogged often by people blasting around at lightspeed compared to you, the slowest class in the game, except for priest (at least you can charge/intercept to mobs randomly)
>>587696292>so roll human paladinPaladin can tank, damage and heal, though I'm not certain how effectively it can do all three at once.
>>587694228Yeah I'm just going to reroll PvE and join Tectone's Vtuber Olympus. Seems like they at least have fun over there. Every guild on PvP for alliance is just nfa, boring, or awful at the game.
>>587696315That's why I made an add-on that autoreports anyone selling summons for advertising and rmt
>>587696292Lone wolf is a talent lil broAlso yeah you want to be a pally or druid
>>587696349does sally whitemane shave her bush? or does she keep it hairy
>>587696013>so I don't know how to manage mana in a dungeon/raid environmentDownrank your healing spells, because they are far more efficient healing per-mana, especially at a low level.Bring out the max rank when you actually need a lot of healing per second, which isn't super often in low level dungeons.Don't stress about healing DPSers. If they're taking damage, they're probably just being a fuckwit.Never heal a life-tapping or hellfiring warlock.
>>587696348These are EU hours what the fuck
>>587696289We call you huntards for a reason. You don't need a working brain to level a hunter, it's all on autopilot
>>587696343so I can corpse camp level 20's in redridge more effectively
>>587696412the guild hopes to raid at 10am
Why didn't they just do the logical thing of making intellect give spell power?
>>587696436I got suspicious that I was missing something when my pet just couldn't hold aggro beyond my opener anymore, lol.
>>587696397Obviously it's trimmed.
>>587696472people would cry about it being too much like retail
>NA PVP>rerolled to druid from hunter Now im comfy. I felt so exposed being surrounded by horde all the time. Now I can sneak away Druid might be mid at everything but atleast I can do all the roles
>>587696472It's more interesting for it to not do that.
>>587696404No they're not. The healing per mana is the same.Downranking is a meme by retarded eternal shitters. What little mana you saved by downranking is lost due to having to cast more often, resulting in greater natural regen mana losses
>>587696204>Literally every PvP server in classic eventually had a death spiral where one faction became overwhelmingly more popular than the other, and that cannot be allowed to happen here.actually what happened is horde became more popular on literally every server which then caused them to deathspiral, and the alliance refugees all went to the same server to escape it. there were like 20 99% horde servers and 1 alliance equivalent.They have desperately needed to do SOMETHING to make alliance more appealing for years now and they just will not fucking do it, even worse they keep engaging in horde wank instead making the problem bigger.They had the ultimate get out of jail free card for alliance population with high elves, and they even fucked THAT up. Now they can't do it if they wanted too because they can't just release two near identical elf races back to back.
Allow me a retailbaby opinion: I wish I could be every spec. Being a druid and only doing 2-3 things things out of 4 is frustrating, same for paladins.
>>587695950>give undead paladin, the most requested race+class combo in the history of the game>give undead an entire WC3 campaign to justify undead paladin in the lore>give undead paladin an appearance in the cinematic>give tauren the most fun racial ever>buff horde racials right before name reservationand you wonder why everyone picked Horde
>>587691472Even for "loot 25 goyim foreskins" quests? People dont want to group for those because it feels way slower sharing the drops 5 ways
>>587696091more content before raids. cos all the same dungeons and grinds are there, just with additional dungeons and grinds. 1 + 1 = 2
>>587696556I didn't think about this, but with how popular the horde is on pvp servers, there is no way we are getting blood elves.
>>587696540>it's more interesting for casters to not want anything without spell power on it
So this is how quest look like at max level.No gold, nothing. Just random green trash that you vendor later
>>587696397Trimmed pale bush, the one you’d only see on natural redheads or strawberry blondes, but fully grey instead.God, I miss my ex
>>587696034That's what they want though. The horde dream server is 99/1 ratio "pvp". Nobody just wants to admit it
>>587696550>No they're not. The healing per mana is the same.If you manage to get some +healing, low ranks really are significantly better, especially at a low level before the penalties start kicking in.
>>587695716no shoes no service
>>587696472Wouldn't fix the issue of spells having horrid base damage and garbage scaling
>>5876966431000+ NEW QUESTS!
>>587696556>>587696634And these morons made an elf race for both factions
>>587696575you know you can go to a trainer to reset your talents right? and you can even double that up with dual spec?
>>587696550>Downranking is a meme by retarded eternal shitters.lmao way to out yourself you fucking retarded child
>>587696349I can handle the warrior lack of quality of life, I'm glad Prot is solid it sounds like. that said Druid sounds pretty good too, especially as someone who's kind of a moron and wishywashy about picking stuff. Healings not my top choice (mostly because everybody I know who I might play with is a bunch of bottoms who only play healers) but I can definitely imagine myself wanting to do it too sometimes. I saw they get a real res now too which is nice for tragedies, even as tank or DPS. My top pure DPS choice was Rogue anyway unless Demonology Warlock can use their pet to tank elites
>>587696556All the more reason to take a hard stance.
>>587696653>Nobody just wants to admit itI mean, that's the problem with pvp in general. People say they want cool duels by the seashore, what they actually want is to grief noobs, what actually happens is they get griefed.
What race+class combination could revive interest in Alliance with fervor matching that of the Horde's Forsaken Paladins?
>>587696671Because obviously your high rank spells don't benefit from your healing power.
>>587696643Didn’t they say they’re adding gold to high-level quests in the same patch with enh nerfs?
So the Darkmoon Faire is a waste of time and money, yes?Do the turn-ins reset every time it comes back?
>>587696705I don't play enough to justify grinding gold for respecs.
Why are undead paladins enslaving some innocent horse if they're such good guys
>>587696250>MeleeBut people complain about warrior being slow at killing. I've mostly played priest and I find their leveling perfectly tolerable. I don't like lock's succubus because of the incessant whipping. Being in any capital with warlocks really pissed me off.
>>587696628try to have some semblance of reading comprehension before writing replies. >everyone is mad because the new dungeons are shit and there's nothing else.
>>587696841>the new dungeons are shit and there's nothing else.says whothey're pretty decent
am i gimping myself if i level a balance druid instead of feral
>>587696771Anything hilariously broken for pvp so just port augevoker
>>587696841but there is else. the same else there's always been.there's plenty of stuff to do before raids in vanilla. there's even more stuff to do now.also you talk like a black gorilla nigger, you should watch your mouth
>>587696771There isn't. Draenei shaman kinda, since no one actually like the dwarves, but it's a far cry. High elves as a race, but they wasted that shot, maybe you could give them druid but I don't think you could give them shaman.
>>587696715>Holy light rank 1 hp per mana ratio is 1.4 on average.>Holy light rank 2 hp per mana ratio is 1.4 on average>Holy light rank 3 hp per mana ratio is 1.4 on averageDo I need to go on?Sit the fuck down retard. There's a reason classicbabs used to always be fucking oom
>>587696841the dungeon looties from the higher level dungeons just seem more of the same +/- 1 stat for another stat>0.1% more hit and x instead of y
>>587696797then you don't play enough to assert that your suggestions about the game should be listened to
>Just bought dual specNow I can finally actually train my niche class skills without feeling like I'm griefing myself.
>>587696906Depends, as feral you could tank if need be
>>587696771I mentioned this in the last thread and it's not really to your point but imo they should have the scarlet crusade become alliance aligned and have scarlet humans be a retail-style allied race. They even have that scarlet crusade emissary in the stormwind cathedral so there is some vanilla precedent there. Another idea I heard was furbolgs, since they are doing a furbolg raid it gives them an opportunity to do it, alliance needs a big beast race counterpart to tauren badly. They would just have to clean up the models to look less dumb.
Am i reading the patch notes right that even if im solo i want to have a windfury totem down along with the imbue?
>>587692238HORDE BNWO FAGGOT TROON HOOKUP GENERAL
>>587696951Casual players like me are the spine of the game, if you are left only with the autistic weirdos you eventually spiral into retail.
>>587696787I don't know dude, this is what my Hyjal quest log looking like
>>587696556>They have desperately needed to do SOMETHING to make alliance more appealing for years now and they just will not fucking do itIt is finally time to do it
I've played 1 day and 10 hours. I'm only level 22.
>>587696941Sure, but that's now how the math actually is.
>>587696983>Another idea I heard was furbolgsnobody is rolling an ugly ass furbolg.they have foxes in retail and those are cuter but still nobody plays thempeople dont want ugly races. its why they gave elves to both
>>587696983Nta but the reason he's in SW is because he's been away from Lordaeron so long he doesnt know that the order has gone fucking nuts
>>587696634>but with how popular the horde is on pvp servers, there is no way we are getting blood elves.you say this and it sounds reasonable but on the other hand they gave horde undead paladins knowing full well what that would do
>>587696963have fun losing your action bars constantly
>>587692109Orcs are literally niggers ofcourse they are slaves.
>>587697021casualizing the game even further from its origins is exactly how retail happened in the first place
>>587696983>>587697050While I think the numbers would be very low, I'd love to have a bunch of monster races being neutrals that could join one or the other. Wow biggest strength is the world it built, but it refuses to let people engage in it actively. Furbolgs, gnolls, just make up some stuff about being a mercenary and you are golden.
have they used AI t owrite these quests?? alot of quest text now gives me big robot energy or at minimum big fat purple haired woman energy
>>587697041an elf is an elf, people arent going to reroll a high elf on a already done elf model, especially since you can already make bluelfs pale
>>587696643>tranny colored quest text background addonyuck, gamer dads will slurp anything
>>587697050That's why I said clean them up, they are ugly as sin currently yes but you could make them into cool looking bear people and there is no other plausible beast race that could be alliance aligned. The big complaint about alliance is that every race is a slight variant of human, so if you want to do something about that and capture some of the horde audience that appreciates beast races you have to come up with something.
>>587696575Idk what retail you play but in retail you’re much better off making a different character if you want to play another spec without dropping your main as you only get 1 vault per character, not per spec and if you spend your currencies on gear for one spec you can’t spend it on gear for another. Unironically you can have a better more-than-one-spec experience on forever than on retail because of how the gear treadmill is designed.
>>587697045That's exactly how it is lil fella. The spellpower modifier doesn't change
doomGODS won
I'm just gonna say itI don't understand why everyone jerks off about high elves. Aren't they literally the same species as blood elves?
>>587694903Follow your heart
>>587696726Warrior is the most honest to play class at the moment. You need to prepare with potions and bandages, you need to stay up to date on your gear, you will probably need to tank (take responsibility) for dungeon runs all the way up to 60, if you accept the power of prot.It's very rewarding, sometimes exhausting, sometimes agonizingly boring, but the payoff is having actually done stuff in the game and earned it by interacting with it fairly. Unlike broken flavor of the month classes which kill monsters in 1 or 2 globals.
>>587697097>no we dont want more people offering to tank and heal dungeons and raids. that would ruin it!look at yourself
>>587697097No, it's literally the opposite. Retail happened because more and more the game dropped its appeal to casual players. A very good example is heirlooms back in wotlk as a way to fix levelling. They helped estabilished players who wanted an alt, but fucked over twice new players. MMOs need to be games for casuals.
>>587696771Draenei is the only way
>>587697131I haven't touched retail since legion desu
>>587697054They wouldn't work completely off the shelf but you could definitely conceive of a storyline to get them where they need to be to join the alliance. And like I mentioned last thread, they are bringing the SoD scarlet raid to forever so that would give you a perfect narrative opportunity to deal with the dreadlord influence on the crusade and get them onto the alliance.Maybe if they are feeling particularly spicy, they can have the questline/events leading to that be an objective alliance victory over the horde for once instead of being perpetual jobbers. It would help improve the image of the scarlet crusade being eternal jobbers too.
>>587697153This isn't TBC or a later expansion, where what you're saying is actually correct.
>>587697120You have not been paying attention to the WoW community for the past decade if you genuinely think elfniggers are satisfied with fake high elves. We've had this issue since Legion when they introduced Void Elves. REAL High Elves are still the most requested race in the game by a LOT.
If they introduce non-Lost One Draenei just make them Broken please, Broken are way more interesting design wise and narratively than regular Draenei.
There is no debate about downranking. Downranking works >>587697113yeah, I interact a lot (a lot) with various LLM's, and I recognize the tone used by bot writing
>>587692463Trvke. Never inviting you and rogue niggers >t. Druid tank/healer/dps
>>587697198prot is the most fun ive had with this gameyou just need to keep your chin up between 32 and 40 when the whole world seems to want to push you down
>>587691195I hope I killed you already
I have a Lvl 15 Alliance Warlock - PVP EU.Maybe this was a mistake. Might re-roll PVE friends.
>>587697337 I haven't died in PvP yet
>>587697316Yeah it got rough there for a bit, but I hit 40 today and shield bash is fucking sweet. Now I just need to go farm the last 20g for a mount, or shrug and wait it out.
>>587697182One of the classic fantasy tropes of all time is noble elves in partnership with humans, why do you think every windrunner sister got banged by a human dude? because metzen was a young pasty nerd fantasizing about fucking Arwen when he wrote that shit too. Blood elves are the antithesis of that since their story is essentially founded on Kael rejecting the alliance.
>>587696906druid wants to level as cat anything else is slow af
>>587697131only for classes that need different main stats between specs, the secondary stat disparity is a total nothingburgershit I main dps and tank with dps gear on when I feel like it because who gives a fuck about an extra 2% DR from stacking vers
>>587697251https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/most-popular-races-in-world-of-warcraft-–-based-on-character-creation-data/559955Draenei are not that popular.It should have been high elves + draenei vs goblins + ogres, instead we got those dumb new elves.
>>587693073Just walk up to them look them in the eyes and give them a firm handshake. Weirdly enough I found that walking around confidently gets you ganked far less than acting like scared prey
how do i cop his look
You're still on RP-PvP?
>>587697218that's a creative way of looking at it. wotlk was the expansion that introduced refer a friend level grants where you could literally watch people level up in real time standing in a cityheirlooms ruined the experience because nobody was getting visual gear progression while leveling which is 99% of what makes an mmorpg work wotlk also introduced the most casual of all casual QoL changes, the dungeon finder + its accompanying welfare blues
>>587697340Don't fall for the pvp meme. I'm 36 horde there and I barely see alliance, my alts are pve too
>horde faction locked for 4 days>trial accounts trial is up>faction population is still miles away from balancedi would've expected it to level out after a day nor two of faction lock, how is this even possible?
>>587697451 I am and it's fun :3
>>587697374>Blood elves are the antithesis of that since their story is essentially founded on Kael rejecting the alliance.It doesn't help that the writing for that decision was retarded, like I almost feel like Garithos was written a posteriori to justify the blood elves on the horde.
>>587697340reroll while still low level broim not saying this to le 4chin troll youthat place is done for alliance
it's time...for satyr to save the alliance!
so many are bored already. no content.
>>587697374Well they have trashed being able to do high elves because the sky elves look and act functionally the same
>>587697474Blizzard incompetence, that's how
>>587696875says everyone actually playing the game and not just larping on 4chan. there's people pulling two bosses at once in these shitty raids. >>587696927once again, l2r retard. >>587696950laziest slop possible because they don't even want to play their own game. some of the loot is just straight up broken as well because they never tested it.
Retoilet tourists tongue my anus.Literally I open the mouths of retoilets and drop a massive steaming shit in their mouths.
>>587697460And wotlk was the high point of the game in popularity. I have no idea how you can't get it through your head. MMOs are massive multiplayer games. You need a community for them to work, but to have a community you need casual players. Retail is not for casual players.
>>587697479I think it was more metzen being an edgelord and wanting all of his faction head characters to be badass edgelords too. That pretty much describes every WC3 main character after all except what, tyrande? lol.
>>587697514>no cock
>>587696771Realistic choices:Night Elf shamanNight Elf paladinSomewhat realistic:Worgen - Gilneas is right there. Or they might not be Gilnean at all, remember worgen come from the Scythe of Elune in the first place.Wishful thinking:Satyr>reskinned draenei>males built basically like Denathrius (maybe a bit leaner), who already uses male draenei rig>females with sharper facial featuresAfter the War of the Satyr, there are so many factions one could definitely be friendly.
>>587691289>level 32Help, I assume? Because the next step for me is level 43 in Dustwallow. I'm using Odo's Striking Staff atm and it's awesome but that looks great.t. level 33 shaman
what's with all the fucking latinos?>need a tank>keep getting flooded with messages from DPS players in spanish>join 30-39 BG>level immediately starts spamming caps-lock tacospeak>sitting in Stormwind>get cold whispered some incomprehensible ay carumba >google translate says "summon me to dalaran now now now">I'm a priest
Does anyone know a good scrolling combat text addon? or is there one built into Ellesmere?
>>587697121Whatever you say, nigger. I don't remember all classic quest off the top of my head. This only highlights forever additions
>want to level warlock just to play with succubus>and because it was my first actual main back in the days
>>587697573I really hope they do NOT make worgen into the faggot ass retail version, keep them as violent savage otherworldly monsters I beg you blizzard.
>>587697560so it's like a human centipede then. where blizzard shits in your mouth and you shit in someone else's.
>>587697536ive seen. Many are moving to monsters and memories
Is Horde RPPvP actually locked? Figured ir would be mostly alliance like every rp server ever
>>587697589Why didn't you summon him tho
>>587697573Satyrs are a smart idea.
when should i do wsg?
>>587697474For every genuine new player that joins Alliance PVP there are about a dozen that are dropping their character to start over on a different ruleset. Alliance will never catch up to Horde because all the ones who made it to 30+ are throwing in the towel to reroll elsewhere.
>>587697589your guild forced you on to a brazilian layer
>pvp server is going to shit>as it always has>as we PvEBVLLs warned the shitters it will>every single timeSay it with me, class: PvP servers are BAD.
>>587697569https://files.catbox.moe/1bijly.png
>>587697654I'll gladly shit in your too, tranny
Incendosaurs don't drop scales...How do you level thorium bro rep now?
>>587697636Exactly, that's what I was thinking if they made them elvish.Since human-worgen are retail and we can't have retail races o algo
>>587697696thanks anon I will save this for later
>>587697547>la la la you didnt understand me la la lawow you're an obnoxious prick. not talking to you again.
>>587697698just to clarify, you're happily eating shit for the privilege of shitting in someone else's mouth.
I truly can't fathom falling for the pvp meme YET AGAIN
>>587697695Insane how this could be fixed by having only one type of server with pvp requiring you to flag yourself for it.
>>58769759620 years ago we used Mik Scrolling Battle Text
>>587697182Kael gon seethe when blond half elves pop up
>>587697763i'm trying desperately to fall for it but blizzard won't let me in
>>587697474>na pvp>horde is supposedly more numerous>every higher level zone I'm surrounded by 10 ally to like 2-3 hordes
>>587697715you cannot imagine my disappointment back in the day when they officially revealed playable worgen. I heard about it through the leaks and immediately was all in, only to finally be presented with fucking cringe furbait instead of the bloodthirsty werewolves I had seen in game for years.christ I was so fucking disgusted that day.
>>587697606What's stopping you?
>>587697695If PvP servers were good they wouldn't go 99/1 mono faction as they always do given enough time. War mode is the answer, or just BG because let's face it that's what you'll do at 60 anyway. People only roll PvP to shit on some lowbie
>>587697562>And wotlk was the high point of the game in popularityyes, that's how you define a peak. wotlk was when the game stopped growing and started retracting lolretail may have turbo sweaty mythic plus x15 or whatever the fuck for a minority of players, but for most of the players it turned into fantasy sims mounts mogs cheevos simulator and that began in wotlk
>trial ends>all the tier 1 resources go up in priceHeh.
>>587697580You should be meeting a ton of shamans on the same part of the quest.
>>587697827>war modeI've heard people mention this before but idk what it is. Could you elaborate?
>>587697514look at that rainforest pussy
>>587697782no see that would be bad because retoilet o algo#nochanges *kills the pvp ruleset*
>>587697474grim indicator that no new players are signing up at all after the FOMO launch
>>587697782aggrend is going to introduce warmode to the pve server only so people can level alts fasterpvp server will get a flat 10% exp boost to everyone
>>587697795Yeah is there something like MSBT but updated for forever?
>>587697847It's basically pvp flagging from a pvp server, but you can only do it from specific locations to avoid people unflagging in the field.
Imagine this:>one normal ruleset>one RP ruleset with strict naming policy>war mode toggle for both that puts you in PvP layersI know, wild stuff. Sadly, the technology (read common fucking sense) is simply not there yet.
>>587697817and the dragons make the furbait look tame now
if Horde is locked doesn't that mean early zones are going to be just completely devoid of life soon, and if there actually are any lower levels still they'll just be massively outnumbered by the constant influx of alliance players?
bros I tried. the only reason I rolled on the pvp server is because my friend convinced me to and said its not that bad. he plays rogue and I play warlock. my ass gets camped everywhere. every dungeon in a contested zone takes 30 min of traveling as the party members get killed over and over. turning in quests takes me twice as much time. I have thousands of games in the most toxic games known to mankind yet when I die in worlo to an over leveled rogue I yell and alt f4. I am in fact weak and filtered and I admit it
>>587697881That doesn't seem very appealing to me. I thought this would be something more dramatic.
>>587697829Mount mog cheevos hunters are NOT casual players. Casual players don't make 15 characters to hunt a 0.02% mount. You have no idea what you are arguing against.
>>587697573>Night Elf paladinfuck off
>>587697589>he doesnt know how to priest summon
>>587697847Flagged people are on their own layers and unflagged are in their own. No pvp server is necessary with war mode and these problems can be avoided a bit more
>>587697896being able to turn off PvP when it's inconvenient just deflates all tension bro
>>587697847>>587697881>It's basically pvp flagging from a pvp server,from a pvE server*
>>587697513I might get to the first PvP zone then see how it is.I actually didn't mind PvP server back in the back - however someone on YT pointed out that it's not like that anymore because of sharding. Which I did't really think about.
>float from a mountain top as a skyborne to group invite and heal this warrior trying to kill a quest elite alone and almost dying to it>both get the quest kill and livemoments like these have been pretty cool, for a first time player like me at least
>>587697847
>>587697817Back in that day, I was entirely unaware of the whole "furry" thing.I reserved a name - Furryfury - thinking I will play a worgen warrior.I wasn't so hyped about their state when they came out, so it just sat there unused.Some time later, I kinda got the grasp of what "furries" are and I deleted that character in disgust and only played worgen once to see the starting zone.
>>587697913Come to pve I'll love you more than your friend who tricked you
>>587697782Nobody uses warmode.
Warmode sucks. Its a half measure that doesnt satisfy either side. Its not a pvp server if pvp is selective
>>587697960ehh the only way I'd support this is if this is a replacement for PvP servers altogether and everyone just ends up on a normal server or an RP server with this as their world PvP option, but even then idk
How are rogues. I'm on a PVE server and I fear I'm letting my hipster bullshit affect my rationale
>>587697945sooner or later, someone will make an addon like on Anniversary, where you will select a layer and just shard into it on a whimyou can do this twice before incurring a 1hr cooldown on sharding
>>587697921ok retard. you're not getting infinite respecs on your druid
>>587697986Doom3. Every zone makes your eyes hurt at night
I am a night elf rogue...
>YOU ARE IN QUEUE FOR 50:50 WAR MODE! POSITION IN QUEUE: 14,297>PLEASE WAIT FOR MORE HORDE PLAYERS TO LEAVE WAR MODE OR LOG OUT.
>>587698052translation: I can't gank lowbies in warmode.
>>587698002Which suggests that pvp is a meme, and all it achieves is waste resources + make the game worse for us high iq people.
>>587698054High single target damage, poor AoE, great in PvP for obvious reasons
>>587697940please refer to >>587698056
>>587694959<Very Cute> runs wowg
>>587698002everyone used warmode to the point where you had people crying about how they can't stop themselves using warmode for the xp buff but they don't want to get pvped
why does this thread have weird larping doomposts literally around the clock about the pvp server being this inhospitable cartoon wasteland where you're being corpse camped by 100 skull level players at all times
>>587698053thats how it works on retail, there are no rulesets
>>587698125You guys are just losers that feel disrespected whenever someone kills your character. It feels like they are attacking you personally. Sad!
>>587698146this desu senpai, I've hardly had any PvP in the first place and when it does happen no one gets camped
i think skyelves are cute!
>>587698146>this inhospitable cartoon wasteland where you're being corpse camped by 100 skull level players at all timesbecause that's only a mild exaggeration. I have played pvp servers my entire life, I am no stranger to being ganked. I still rerolled pve, it's that bad. I stuck it out until level 40 even, literally dumpstered a level 40 character just to escape the stage 5 cancer.
>>587698146because the dungeon finder is empty on the rppvp server and camping is happening
>>587698101I know this elf...
>>587698209I'd play one but I refuse to give blizzard money for them.
>skelves hair colors mostly look like shit or untexturedare they fixing this.
If you don't like PvP then don't roll on it, and also Blizzard needs to make sure that it doesn't get too skewed in either direction. It's that simple. War mode is a cope.
What do I play if I want to attract foids?
>>587698101good post
>>587697027Enh nerfs aren’t live yet either tho, at least weren’t on Thursday
>>587697946>as a transgender indigenous peoplei pray every day that forever eos's and the shit'dorei cease to exist.
>>587698209marriage bait
>game already dead
>>587698269guild leader
>>587698309rp-pvp is dead
>accidentally grind out 35% of a level trying to learn Dash rank 2
>rolls on pvp server>gets pvp WOW DOOD THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO
They can be druids/shamans on the horde to give the horde a beautiful race, but I wonder why they picked mage for the alliance.
merge the servers and add warmode and personal loot or this classic revival dies yet again the same as the other 4 times it happened
>running to rol on the pve server>get attacked by a mountain lion>horde brother saves me im having a blast
>>587698417Alright smartasses, how would YOU fix the faction imbalance?>inb4 War Mo-Doesn't fix imbalance
LITERALLY JUST HARDLOCK THE PVP SERVERS TO GO NO FURTHER THAN A 45/55 SPLIT AND THE "PROBLEM" IS FIXED FFS
>>587698459world of lovecraft <3 so wholesome and sweet
>rp pvp is dead>pvp is is unplayable for one faction and pve-lite for the otherw-winning
>>587695893no
>>587698386Phil runs this general
>>587698417all classes should be available for skyborne
>>587698282They hotfixed that yesterday actually.It's in.Double dipping WF is good though.
>>587698479Didn't mean to quote there
>>587698514why are people saying rp-pvp is dead? I'm on it and it seems fine
>>587698479Completely broken human racials + one between High elves on the alliance and Night elves can be shaman and paladin
>>587698582it’s like 1% of the total playerbase
>>587698514RP PvP is alive and thriving. Sadly it has gotten infested with Horde tourists
>>587698417alliance exclusive should have been priest, they are way more in demand and widely played than mage.
>>587698609Who cares? It's more than any Classic server ever had
>>587698459make LOVE not warcraft..
we havent eaten in days because all we've been doing is leveling, luckily our spirit is high so we can just sit and regen
>>587698483Except it isn't because then you still are locking out people who want to play horde, that is not an insignificant issue, they are only doing it because there is no other practicable option available.The fundamental issue is that horde is more popular than alliance and by a large margin. If they want to close that gap at all they need to throw alliance a bone.
LMAO FLATTIE
>>587698146I had to do a 3+ corpse run for every single dungeon that wasn't in an alliance zone. I don't understand how people are not being farmed and having the same experienceit's not that one specific guy camps you, its that whenever you rez you just rez into more hordes and you're basically relying on their goodwill to let you live
>>587698791It IS an insignificant issue when it HAS to happen.
is he right?
>>587698717you do realize the vast majority of people playing now won’t be playing in 2-3 months? and the impact will be magnitudes higher in smaller rulesets>inb4 doompostit’s the pattern of every single online game ever made
>>587698791the solution?NEUTRAL GILGOBLIN RESKINaveraging out the horde appeal to the alliance
why are the sky elves literally trans themedhalf the time when you go to sky elf in character select it has blue skin pink hair and white accents
kalimdor sucks lmao
>>587690834Are Warlocks the worst class in the game now?I'm reading the community posts relating experiences and apparently Lock is fucking gutted to death
>>587698831he's baiting and it's really amusing
60 Warlock update - Uninstalled.This is what warlocks are dealing with:Bane of Agony - from 1044 to 552 - 47.13% nerf Corruption - from 822 to 438 - 46.72% nerfShadowbolt - from 538 to 283 - 47.40% nerfImmolate - from 510 to 275 - 46.08% nerfSoul fire - from 893 to 486 - 45.58% nerfShadowburn - from 511 to 288 - 43.64% nerfcurse of doom - from 3200 to 1742 - 45.56% nerf47% nerf on basically all warlock skills requiring 350~ SP at 60 to counter. (150sp at 36)Melee classes were untouched, for example; rogue still does the same damage (eviscerate ect), paladins (buffed), warrior(buffed), enhance(buffed) ectPVP is 10x worse.Warlocks have to survive TWICE as long in pvp against other players AS A CLOTH WEARER.Player health was not reduced to match the 47% warlock nerf.Paladin, Warrior, Rogue, Feral ect were not nerfed to match the 47% nerf.This means players have twice as long for their cooldowns to be ready to counter our dots, regen, run ect.and dont get me started on "just get sp gear", melee classes don't need any extra gear to make up for any lost damage.I could go deeper into this; for example:Player health is also increased because of hour long buffs ectOr monster health being increased by 110%+ making our nerf even worse.The warlock/caster developer is a complete idiot who ruined the launch for every caster player.
>>587698840many wont make it to 60 and will unsub next month, many more will resub just to experience the raid tier and then unsub in januaryno updates until april
>>587698840Okay so RP servers shouldn't exist on retail either then right? Since it's only one server in Moon Guard.
>>587698827It's not insignificant to be forcibly preventing paying customers from playing your game the way they want to, they are only doing it because they literally have no other option. Ideally they would not be in this situation in the first place because their playerbase would not prefer one faction over the other by a massive margin. They have been actively trying to manage the relative popularity of the factions from the very beginning, including blood elves on the horde was first and foremost motivated by faction balance. They have just been miserably failing at it for the alliance for over a decade.
>>587698892all casters except for shaman are shit because of spell power math
>only 1 stable slot unless you can cough up 5G>tamed 2 rare pets>cant tame new pets to learn skills nowamazing design
What the fuck is going on
>Guy I get my restedXP from tells me to use free guides and buy bananas>Use free guide it's actually okay>Buy Bananas they taste alrightWhy is restedXP so hyped?
>>587698989only the most subhuman retards play hunter so they are naturally making a bad name for themselves and not being invited to dungeons
>>587698936You're not going to make the Alliance more popular than the Horde on a PvP server. It's not going to happen. You could make the Alliance races all gamebreakingly busted overpowered and it still wouldn't make them more popular because people like playing as the HORDE in a ruleset where you KILL PEOPLE.
>>587698907Stop whining
>>587698693truehigh elf priest is kino
>>587698989Huntards are the best and easiest class in the game. Who could've seen that happening
Horde is in, culturally. Nothing you can do about that but wait for another shift (coming)
I CANT STOP SAYING XD, WTF HAS THIS GAME DONE TO ME? EVERYDAYXD XD XD
>>587696790>>587696790answer me ne
>>587698943so I bought a sub for nothing?what legal action can I take?I guess I'm not getting a refund? has anyone ever gone to Blizz HQ?
>>587699098HORDE WAVE YASSS
>>587698918I didn’t say that, I just said rp pvp is dead lol. Also it doesn’t matter as much on retail because everything is cross server with no restrictions.they should’ve made normal and RP rulesets and put a war mode toggle instead
>>587699137NO XD
>>587698146It will get infinitely worse when players make it to 60 and they're doing dungeons for gear. Just making it to the entrance of a dungeon will take a few deaths. Never mind the entrances to raids being bombarded by horde mages.
>>587698943Priest is strong as hell
>>587698989I posted that exact situation from the beta warning niggers not to play hunterI got pushback about how it's not that bad, you still get groups, don't worry about ityou niggers never learn
>>587698907Are you seriously it's that bad? Why the fuck would they do this?
>>587699049Then why was the alliance the more popular faction in OG vanilla? And by the way, alliance had a huge surge of popularity in WotLK literally solely because of EMFH being busted in pvp.You are having a failure of imagination here. They could definitely do things to make alliance more appealing including to the type of player that enjoys the brutal if not evil undertones of the horde.
>>587698907Well yeah it's all casters, I'm doing bottom DPS each dungeon unless there's another caster cuckie with me. They just need to restore us to like 75% original dmg and it'd be a lot better, or just pull the plug and make int give SP.
>>587698282They should hurry up then because this is some bullshit
Fuck now I want to play skyborne druid for the owlbear but I don't want to pay 30 euros
>>587699181please x(
>done with basically all the normal quests in Arathi other than the pirate one's since I haven't gone to booty bay for the starter>all the quests I have are orange and elite>got two quests to go to RivergladesWelp, guess I'm off to Riverglades for now.
I joined a guild and talked to them in voice chat and I don't really like the vibes
level 60 now, im gonna shower and make some healthy food for the first time since launch. I feel really really sick.
>over TWO DECADES after the game is released>hunters STILL rolling on strength and spell damage gear
Retail doomposters out in full force today
rip angry joe
They should let you do a weekly to restore the charges of a quest reward. Looking at you Call of the Raptor.
>>587697960Why would they NOT FUCKING USE THIS for their "FOREVER CLIENT"it's not like there are rulesets in real classic, this isn't a purity thingthis was literally MADE for their dream of "ONE GIANT SERVER"merge PVE and PVP and RPPVE and RPPVP and patch in Warmode YESTERDAY you incompetent fuckinng retardss HOLY FUCKKKYOU LITERALLY HAVE PROBABLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OT ABLE TO PLAY ON THE SERVERS THEIR FRIENDS ARE ON
>>587699354why did you rush so much?
>>587699286It looks dogshit and sounds even worse, get your head checked
>>587699365Sorry for the stupid question, but should I be prioritizing mainly agility as a hunter? It seems like the obvious stat to go for.
>>587699365The fact that Hunters rolling on Int gear is now acceptable is still funny to me due to that new talent
When are they fixing that you can buy a race that costs literal in-game currency for basic gameplay features?
>>587699450All druid forms look dogshit
Ogres are comingTheir racial makes them immune to spell pushback and 50% shorter gcd
>>587699354damn im level 50 and feel completely fucked
>>587699354sit on my face first stinky neet...
>PvE faggots rolling on PvP servers demanding change because of streamer culture I fucking hate you apes. Let our mode die if it is so awful. GO BACK.
>>587699270certain kind of people didn't have internet access in pre-2010 era
I'm getting warchiefs blessing every time I visit orgrimmar, is that shit layered at all
>>587699571but they have 30% slower movement speed
>>587698417>>587698535>>587698693makig skyborne mage exclusive to alliance ruined my entire gameplay plan/desire/fantasy
>>587699471its the only fucking stat to go for, sick of these muppets rolling on everything just because it happens to be blue
I am a nipple slutwhenever I play with my nipples I can feel it right between my legsI am a nipple slut right between my legsclass for this feel?
>>587699583I did it solo as arms warrior and want to die
Today is the first day where I'm just not playing at all. The game's over for me...!
what is a warlock leveling build that does not make me want to kill myself
>>587699647ok good, I've been going for exclusively agility gear and wanted to make sure that was the correct play
this sub has gone to shit
>>587699612SHUSH don't you fucking DARE complain about it
>>587699430>Invertedalways makes me laugh when I see that pic lmao
>>587699270>>587699609alliance was historically more popular because retarded normalfag children with no imagination or taste really wanted to be a generic human warrior and live in fucking "Saturation=100 Fisher Price Land" that is alliance architecture.
why do i have to kill 400 level 40 trolls for a prequest for a dungeon supposedly in a lower level bracket than rfd
>>587699721For real sis! These checking olymp*s chuds ruined it for everyone AGAIN like ALWAYS! They should just han- I mean they should just ban them all!!
>>587699647Int gear is rightful hunter clay
>>587699782as opposed to green human in brown mudhut shithole land
>>587699782So then why did the faction balance immediately turn on a dime to the inverse of what it was in TBC when blood elves released?and btw vanilla wow at least early vanilla wow was not much of a children's game. The population was primarily existing MMO players which were at minimum teenagers. Younger kids didn't start playing wow until that south park episode came out right before TBC.
>>587699782uh oh green tyrone chimpie
>>587699667female human paladin>>587699692people are saying demonic brand is fun, go demo
>>587699782>alliance was historically more popularAlliance was only the winning faction duriong original vanilla. The moment Blood Elves got introduced the Horde kept growing in numbers until it reached the point of Blizzard needing to add cross-faction because Alliance was so dead.
>>587699812how strong is this talent
>>587699782>you are not an adult if you don't roleplay a somalian online sarunironically the dumbest thing hordfags ever made up
Horde is more popular because people have become uglier, physically and spiritually.
why did no one tell me survival hunter was the hardest and most engaging class in the game
i got enough gold to mount up my level 40 priest but i wanna rerolldude fuck priest
>>587694808>MnMthat game is fucking dead lmfao. I played a Cleric in it from 1-30 and it is not just an unfinished clone of Everquest, it doesn't even have the redeeming quality of grouping working (which is a killer in a game centered entirely around it). By the time I had reached level 23, I had stopped being able to find groups, and that was as a cleric.
>>587699970truly ugly people find it very important to keep up outward appearances, that's why alliance is so toxic
>>587699782I think it genuinely comes down to undead being able to be paladins
if racials are why horde is so imbalanced why dont they just nerf them or buff alliance racials to be better in pvp?
>>587700032is that why 80% of horde players became blood elves the moment they released?
Ok I looked up the cat model for skyborne and it's awful. Now that I think about it, I wonder why in vanilla they went for moonkin as end point for balance. Like wildkins were no name creeps in wc3, why use them for druids? and why make it the end talent for them, it's the only form like that.
>>587698551Ah shit, I was watching netflix cyberpunk. It’s trash btw
warlocks, how good is the succubus? i dont want to run all the way to the barrens from duskwood if its not gonna be better than my voidwalker
Thoughts on maelstrom weapon? Seems a bit pissy for 5 points
>>587699970This is unironically true
>>587700102yes, thats when alliance rerolled horde
People would play furbolgs if they looked like this, no question.Alliance needs a beast race, furbolgs are a near perfect fit and probably the only viable beast race in existence. They need to pull the trigger on this.
>>587700084when they nerfed orc a bit and it went from the best race overall to like 3rd best and still the best race for warlock / hunter we had the biggest forum chimpout in years, imagine what would happen if they actually nerfed them
>>587700084Alliance easily have the better racials for both pvp and pve. People just don't want to play on the cuck faction filled with streamers, normalfags, and bad flight points.
What kind of bug is this? Half the shit I kill can't be skinned as if I'm in a party with someone else.
Hello, yes I would like to order a tall glass of elf-milk with a side of elf-milk
>>587700084Alliance currently has the better racials by far lol
>>587700151you could make it look like the transformation and people still wouldnt play it
>>587700110literally the only reason I don't play druid is I hate the chicken form lmao. Balance druid is the caster spec that appeals to me the most yet I have never played one because the chicken is so pointless and retarded looking.In retail at some point they had a cosmetic thing that exchanged the chicken for a transparent ethereal moon/stars look that was fucking kino. I would totally go for that.
elf slut shaking her ass at the orgrimmar gate campsite while some alliance huntercuck spams rain of arrows on the campfire
>>587700151>furbolgwould be about as played as retail's mechagnome
>>587699970"Coincidentally, browns got easier access to the internet"
>>587699812thats great and all but can you fags stop rolling on shit with strength on it? driving me fucking mad as a shaman
>>587699847>>587699879>>587699880>>587699891>>587700069I'm a Forsaken and I live in Halloween Town it's fucking incredible.Horde is Forsaken clay and I hate green niggers more than you do.
>>587700285>>587700248Why do people play tauren then?And name a race plausible to join alliance that existing horde players might be interested in. Yet another multi-colored human won't cut it.
>>587700250it's not a chicken, it's a moonkin aka owlbear, and it's a proud race with ancient roots, ok?
>>587700084Alliance DO have the better racials. This has never stopped faction imbalance before. Alliance got fed the most overpowered racials throughout retails history and nobody would touch the faction until cross-faction got added in SL.
>>587698907>noooo my class deals less dps than huntardsYea so does everyone else's, shut up
>>587700376Silly cow go moo that's why
>>587700141succubus is pretty nerfed in terms of damage. if you want damage go imp
>>587700469And you think that doesn't translate at all to bear people? It's not like bears are some obscure animal that no one cares about. How many Winnie the pooh and smokey bear and yogi bear puns do you think you would see?
overall faction balance according to raider.io (probably the best tracking site as far as retail is considered):>EU: 49,7% Alliance, 50,3% Horde>Korea: 50,6% Alliance, 49,4% Horde>Taiwan: 50,1% Alliance, 49,9% Horde>USA: 46,7% Alliance, 53,3% Hordethe imbalance seems to just be an amerimutt thing tbqhwyf
>>587700376>Why do people play tauren then?60% move speed racial
>>587700446If you really think about it, all hybrid classes should be S/A tier dps. Pure dps classes like rogue or warlock can just pick the best spec, but a priest can only be shadow and it's wrong to make it weak.
i just can't go back to horde anymore, i always pick alliance after pandaria
>>587700567pretty sure tauren did not suddenly become widely played 9 days ago pal.
>>587700151>Alliance needs a beast raceNo they fucking don't, just like horde didn't need faggot elves
>>587700420>Alliance got fed the most overpowered racials throughout retails history and nobody would touch the faction until cross-faction got added in SL.top 100 in 2v2 / 3v3 arena has been majority alliance since WoD
I give it two weeks before we get pic
>>587700605I... I can't betray Sylvanas....I MUST kill those uppity farmer fuckers and take their pumpkins.
>have to spam people for invitesmiserable experience
>warriors / druids / pallys who refuse to tankjust chuck a shield and 1 hander on and go for it
>>587700543It's a US thing, but it's also a pvp thing.
>>587700605same honestly, I switched factions back in 2012 because I disliked the dindu nuffin chimpout direction they took with the horde post-cata
>>587700729Druids can't use shields.
where should i level at lvl 19and can i go to duskwood on lvl 20 or it's too early
>>587700532Bear no go mooCow go moo
>>587700651believe it or not, but a few tryhards going alliance to queue arena did NOT solve the faction imbalance problem.
PvP faction balance status?
>>587700785bear go rawr, that's even more memeyalso think of all the retarded joe rogan references to fighting bears.
>>587700774they have no fuckin excuse. imagine playing feral and not tanking, the fucking state of it
>>587700605>>587700691Yeah I have always been torn about this. As a teen I loved Sylvanas and trolls, but I hated how ugly everything is and the type of people the horde attracted.
>>587700874no bearonly cow
>>587700881I was told to wear the dress and I will wear the dress.
>>587700890>loved trolls>hated uglybrudda wtf are you talking about, trolls are literally what would come out if you told an AI to generate a picture of the ugliest humanoid imaginable.
>>587700585If you really think about it, rogues should deal the least dps because they can open lockboxes
>>587700857
>>587700948Troll female had a cute face, and their aesthetics are massively better than what the orcs have.
HOW DO CASTERS PLAY FUCKING BGS? I CAST SPELLS GO OOM AND THEN FUCKING DIE WHY DIDNT BLIZZARD THINK ABOUT THIS ROGUE NIGGERS NEVER GO OOM HOW IS THIS A FAIR FIGHT
>>587700567>the poor alliance solo quester watching as me and my boy agonizingly slowly catch up to him at 2% movespeed every 5 seconds until his inevitable doomplainsrunning might have no competitive advantage in pve but its fucking kino in wpvp
>>587694390Prot warrior here, I would never join someone else groupI'm start my own and make sure we have every archtype covered so no loot goes to waste.DPS pala/wars can eat a dick
>>587701023bro you are ranged, you are supposed to stay with the pack of other ranged dps and heals. Rogues can't do shit to you if you stay together.
>>587700851alliance has been THE pvp faction on retail EU since I can remember, hell even the merc mode right now is turned on for horde since there's more alliance players queueing for bgsI played Midnight for a while and had a winrate of 75% on my ret pala as alliance in bgs
>>587701023>run around with the main group and kill everythingcaster is fackin easy mode
>>587700729I'm shy... I don't want to be the center of attention..
do i focus on my undead paladin then or what
>>587701056thats fair i stole the 1h axe off the last hall of thanes boss on my ret pally the other day and never ended up using it
I know how to fix faction imbalance but Blizzard are cowards who will never implement it. Change the metric from created characters to active players and dont let you log in if too many of your faction is online. Problem solved.
>>587700543>overallWho caresPvP is 45/55that's bad but no unplayeable FOR NOW
Alamo thaught me everytign I need 2 kno abt Durid
Fellow ret PaladinbrosHow is life after 30?
>>587701198Well durid is 4 fite after all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANMba10qaXcoh no no no
they should just make it so you can be a defector and be a human on the horde side and vice versa
>>587700659We get a whole new cohort of Blizzard employees who are gamers and want to make WoW good? Sounds great. Get rid of all the women and replace them with bros like Kaplan, Afrasiabi, Ghostcrawler, and others.These are the people who made WoW the best and most played online game. Just because they were inundated with blue haired foids due to Commiefornia judges and libtard mind control doesn't mean those oldheads were bad. And the new crop wont be bad either. Just avoid hiring more foids.
the 15 minute food buff needs to be changed to 30 minutes or something
SO WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU DO IF YOU MUST JOIN HORDE PVP BUT CAN'T?BLIZZARD IS LITERALLY JUST PLAYING CHICKEN WITH, UNIRONICALLY, LOWKIRKENUINELY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PLAYERSthey are starving Horde of fresh blood hoping entirely on like 25k players either deleting their fucking accounts 7 days in, or that many newbloods/latecomers somehow being convinced to roll Alliance on PVP instead of just going PVE.
>>587701310spam moar
>>587701272legacy talents
>>587701310but why horde tho? you dont have any friends either
WELL MET
>>587701356>create problem>sell solution
>>587701046you're literally doing covenant activitieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok7mNomKUpA
>>587701389>sell?
new>>587701428>>587701428>>587701428
>>587701310>"Make other arrangements".t. CHADrend, 12th November 2026
>>587701440will he be laughing when there are holes in his employees and him?
>>587701310>we have heard the players, we're considering our options, and we've decided we ain't changing SHIT until balance is achievedAggrend, possibly
>>587701094Alliance is the pvp faction on retail NOW because cross faction got added. Factions no longer matter so every pvper rolls Alliance for the racials.
>>587701527How you gonna do that when you're locked out of nonconsentual pvp?
There's so much to do. Speedrunning losers really are missing out
>>587701741yeah i almost wish the exp was lower so I'd have a reason to go to more zones, there's a few zones that i've outleveled and now i have no reason to go to.
>>587698907Wait what? Why did they feel the need to nerf it to begin with?
>>587701678bro I played in BfA pre-crossfaction shit and it was the samein 8.3 with corruptions I won like 9 bgs out of 10 as alliance and merc mode flipped between alliance / horde on EU
>>587693673>Fagmog
>>587700781Redridge?
I'm burning out. didn't play at all today
Is enhancement supposed to use fast weapons or slow weapons
>>587694509Did you do your weekly quests?Did you do your hunt quests?Did you get your Mythic Dungeon runs in for the week?Did you do your delves for the week? Did you do your raid for the week?Did you make sure all your vault slots are ready to be opened by the next week?Did you do your weekly PvP battleground weekend?Did you get your 10 arena matches in?Did you do your tale bound quests?Did you build your in game house?Did you get all the decos for it?
Has anyone been to Shen'Dralas? Is it worth going there?
>>587703135Not really
>>587702819At this point retail just feels like gachashit but without the big anime tits.
>>587701023bro when I made this post I entered a bg game, bro.... do they not have a time limit it's almost an hour later. bro...... WSG fucking sucks....
this shit might be dead by next friday, already feeling to try adrullan or something
>>587699895it's good even if you have 0 int on gear
>>587703597>game will die one week after release>one week later>uhm akshually one more week and the game will surely die>just one more week>just one more week>one more week
>>587703716nice shitpost I was just telling the thread how I feel, it just doesn't feel right this time around and for me it might be doa by next weekend unless they do something to incentivize players grouping up, I am just playing 3rd person skyrim with other players visible at this point and it feels bad man
clover club is exploiting the game and i dont know who to talk to in order to feel better about how its making me feel
>>587703982QRD?
>give the horde undead paladins>give the alliance dwarf fucking shamans>surprised less people are playing allianceShould have just done night elf shamans.
I always go Alliance because it seems to have more distance to Russians and adjacent bottle sitters
>>587699475I had a hunter take an int chest from my shaman
>>587703873Are we even playing the same game?I group with people non-stop while I'm questing (last night grouped with people for Eliza and also for the named ogre in sw Duskwood). Not to mention healing dungeons. Several people have been added to my FL in just the last couple days.You do have put in a slight amount of effort, but there are lots of players out there that enjoy playing with others.Hope you find your mojo.
I've already found several items that require mages to decode. Do other classes get fun stuff like this or is it blizzard sucking mage dick again?
why are zone general chats so dead in na pvp alliance
