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where the biofems at?
Alliance needs playable allied Scarlet Crusade in Forever.
Fellow ret PaladinbrosHow is life after 30?Is your rotation still judge strike macro?How do you circumvent going oom
>>587701470XIV is over there
ALEXENSUAL RUSN THIS GENERAL
>>587701486>retacutal fag
ZUG ZUG dattetbayo!
I am a night elf rogue...
>>587701480for me, its sally
>when a green tyrone makes another forum whine thread about not being able to make a character to play with his "homies" on the PvP rulesetmake other arrangements bro
>>587701520>acutal
>he fell for the wpvp meme>he fell for the "OP" alliance racials meme>he's stuck because of sunk cost regretsLOL!
>>587701536grigga got some badass shoulderpads tho
>>587701540you will be my fem human mage's wife
>>587701480This>>587701543She's seriously perfect
>>587701567What does "make other arrangements" mean? What if I arrange to kill this guy with a gun when he's getting into his car?
>>587701536I AM HERO AND OBEY XD
now that enh is gutted, is it worth respeccing to ele until windfury?
>>587701594Maybe, what spec are you?
>>587701428i look like this
IRS here how much gold do you havet. 3gold 3 silver
>>587701610>>587701543It's hilarious how scarlet crusade is literally just humans: except cool.stormwind humans are so fucking lame in comparison.
>>587701653arcane ofc
>>587701543>>587701610can you imagine if they did that and elevated Whitemane to a faction leader.Jesus christ that is probably the only thing they could do on this earth that would have a chance at making a simp and goonbait rival to Sylvanas.the more I think about it the more genius this sounds. they unironically would be stupid to not try this.
>>587701576I'm playing on pve alliance and I have a winrate of ~66% in bgs tho?
>>587701681Aren't they supposed to be a stand-in for nazis?
>>587701486I'm trying to level shockadin/holy sorry
everyone says casters are bad to level with
I dont understand what I'm supposed to do as a warlock when I get jumped by any melee in world pvp. I die in 5 to 10 seconds and unless I happened to have a succubus out, my fear gets interrupted. my dots would hurt if I got to put them on and fight for a long period of time, but that literally never happens unless I can get a fear off. I'm level 33
I've been leveling arcane since lvl1 and there's no way this is actually a 40% chance when arcane blastingsomething is going on here
>>587701567Sylvanas is my "homie". My main is Forsaken. That is literally all I care about. WoW is dogshit I would never play if those two things didn't exist. The only truly good thing Blizzard ever made was Starcraft, Warcraft has always been a shit series overall I would never touch as a kid (or now because even remastering it didn't work) because it was so fucking ugly. Not the outdated graphics, the art style. WoW fucking sucks and the Forsaken are the only good thing they ever did. We should genocide orcs right after we genocide blacks.
>>587701735I'm not sure what's a good mage spec, but that's also the one I would pick cause I love arcane missiles.
>>587701780>I have a winrate of ~66% in bgsAbove average win rate detected, deploying the shitter squad.
How are guys coping with losing over 2/3rds of your playerbase in a week?
>>587701793It's hard to make a moralfag argument when forsaken have been playable for 20 years, you know the people responsible for atrocities arguably worse than the nazis. And it's not like orcs are some kind of guiltless people either, they quite literally are a race defined by conquest and murder both before and after drinking demon cum.
*puts a kill and collect quest deep in the ocean**not 100% drop**enemies run away at low hp*
>doing the end part of RFK where you escort the goblin>start doing the blueleaf tuber quest between pulls>tank starts throwing a shitfit saying we'll do tubers after the escort>the goblin is slow as fuck and all the mobs on the path die in 3 seconds>easily get the quest done>after the escort ends I see the tank summon his gopher then kick me from the groupThe fuck is wrong with people?
>>587701845>I swear I have to play the dominant faction for reasons other than easy zergoloid pvp>You believe me right?
it's kinda impossible to defend horde even if you're on horde side after cata/mop
>>587701883I ain't reading all that free Lordaeron
reminder to use level 1 spells for all aoe damaging ones on all classesthey use far less mana
>only see germans>everybody is nice>everybody helping each other>everybody buffs each other>didn't see one cyrillic namesholy comfy, truly home.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/new-max-level-weekly-quest-rewards-up-to-100-gold-in-wow-forever-383846What the fuck is this shit blizzard??ooooomg
where do i gotta go to get plapped?
Who /undeadpaladin/ here? >>587701486it's fine stop being bad
>>587701873frost was the default leveling/pvp spec but blizzard decided it needed to be rapedfire was essentially untouched meanwhile arcane got an entire rework replete with giga buffs
>>587701945>It's impossible to defend an oppressed nation
>>587701775Heir to Stormwind incoming!!
>>587701874>the shitter squadunironically the biggest shitters I have seen in the bg have all been undead players, especially undead rogues and paladinsthe amount of undead paladins who won't use bof and just stay there rooted for 10 seconds while getting nuked is crazy
the higher level you go the more they just throw in wrath and cataclysm copy pasted textures. blackmaw and shaper's are just scholozar basin and felwood. no soul whatsoever, it's like someone just copied a homework assignment 5 minutes before it was due.
>new zone as horde>first quest is killing farmers and stealing food>steall wood from alliance to make spears>next quest is torturing crocodiles with them, not even kidding them just mutilate them with spears
>roll shaman>life before 40>smashing things with 2 handers, 1 shotting people left and right>shit is epic>reach 40>notice I can't find groups for dungeons easily anymore, decide to invest in dual spec resto>groups come easily now>but no longer get to wield my big axe>have to stand in the back and heal big chad wearing plate>did ZF today>item drops from boss and I win it>I put it on>it's a dress>tfwIs this my life from now on? Did I get ubercucked?
>>587701951>forsaken are palestinians
>>587701973i never had problems with russians or anyone else until i encounter french nigga
>>587702039oppressed by who? the people they invaded and tried to genocide?if anything ol' bibi would be green in azeroth.
>>587701480>>587701543God I wish female humans were real
>>587701543>>587701610Doesn't sally just die in cathedral? They refused to do anything with one of their most popular female characters AGAIN
>>587701978>have to run all 3 wings of dire maul to get a weekly box with a miniscule chance at a vendor item worth 100g>of course wowhead phrases this like everyone gets 100g for free every week
>>587702071the demons tricked them to do it chud, they are peaceful shamanistic people
>>587702090did you bother to look at any tier sets or classic wow shamans before you started playing?
>>587702141They brought her back as an undead to make her one of the nu-4 horsemen in legion where she proceeded to do sweet fuck all to this day.
>>587701938I've never played World PVP. I wanted this to be my first time, on my "main". I've never significiantly PVP'd before. I will die a fuck ton either way. If the populations were reversed I wouldn't hesitate for even a second to join the 44% Horde side. Actually, the only reason I'd possibly hesitate is cause a small part of me really wants to try Mage PVP and the retarded fucking ruleset garbage prevents me from doing both. I would be playing a Skyborne Mage right now on alliance adding to your faggot population numbers WE BOTH desperately want Alliance to have. Why the fuck would I want the server to slowly die until it's a Horde PVE server? I WANT BALANCED PVP.i hope you get raped to death.
>>587702014Does arcane missiles still make the cool sound like woosh woosh woosh? I haven't played with a mage at all yet.
>>587702059Whitemane should just be pregnant all the time and her pregnancy should double the strength of her light powers.
>>587702004im considering rolling dwarf paladin JUST for the sake of having feet armor i dislike undead paladin feet
>>587701973we DO do that in Germany
>>587702183No I'm taking about forever, we don't talk about the aberration that is retail wow
>>587702090As a shaman, you should be able to tank dungeons
>>587702207That Whitemane isn't old enough to get pregnant.
People who sign up for dungeon groups without being anywhere near the dungeon need to be shot and killed.
>>587702004OH FUCK THIS GUY. I remember his complete meltdown when reddit mods and the general discussion forums took his art down for showing too much gore. He was so pissed off lmao
>>587702004>that>undeadwhere's the exposed bone? wheres the hunch back? where's the misanthropy? wheres the horde symbolism?? AHHHHHH IM GOING INSANEEEEE
>1 silver 60 copper to greatly piss off any caster you run intowtf
>>587702169I went in blind as enhance and there was 0 indication it was going to be like this from the first 40 levels of gameplay.
>>587702071>>587702159Another consequence of the dumb decision of having team red vs team blue. If we had multiple factions, we could have fans of wc2 horde and wc3 horde both being happy.
Bros where to put my first points
>it's just 3k exp>lemme grind it on mobs and i'll go to darkshore >68 exp per mobfuck my small brain paladin lifewhere's my elf mommy
>>587702321of course, because you were wearing rogue gear.
>>587702363Depends on youWanna alt? do thatMain should preferably have professions
They really bumped the quest gold rewards for lvl 48+ quests.I'm level 51 and have 200 gold.
Stop removing the guild and community information from the OP you fucking faggots.
>>587702014I've never played Mage but "Arcane" sounds the coolest anyway and is what I would want to play without knowing this.
>>587702301Redditors will join an SFK group while in the middle of Stonetalon then wonder why dungeons are such low XP per hour.
>alliance gets shafted with the worst access to basically anywhere, but in exchange they get prettier zones and nicer cities>but horde now also gets a ring of blood, has taken over every pvp server because blizzard allows people to game the faction lock system (chinks making thousands of dead alliance accounts, people using trials to make dead alliance accounts, etc), and get an entire speshul area for undead paladinsAnd if the leaks are true, Horde might even be getting a second bloodelf recolor. Why the fuck is Horde so heavily favored? It's insane.
>>587702303>reddit>the general discussion forums took his art down for showing too much gore>He was so pissed off lmaoscreencaps? I wanna see, especially for the official wow forums they usually seethe over everything
>>587702387whatchya gonna do about it lil' gup
>>587702410>Why the fuck is Horde so heavily favored?californians consider them a stand-in for black people since warcraft 3
i played alliance in vanilla so i deserve to play horde now
>>587702315This is why, as a solo warrior on pvp, I spent 3 hours grinding gold at level 32 and bought up FAPs, Speed Pots, Rage Pots, Magic resist pots, and basically any other fucked up consumable I could get my hands on. It's cheap and fuck anyone who tries to stop me.
>>587702004>he's drawing an undead pally nowDid he finish drawing pic related??
>>587702410As a horde player why the fuck are we getting so many elves?? They don't fit the theme of the faction at all.
fk bros fkfkfkfkfk!!!!!!!
okay okay im gonna go fem unead paladin!
>>587702514>As a horde player why the fuck are we getting so many elves??
how does druid dmg work? is it related to his weapon?
>>587702059Computer, animate her like thishttps://x.com/Hachiyarumi4/status/2104544890076217652https://x.com/Liitaro3D/status/2106839383231881549
I'm burning out bros, didn't play at all the past 24 hours
>>587702582They need to bring back dranei as a monster race for alliance to balance it out. No idea how they'd fit the lore now that things are going to be changed though.
Man starting areas are still packed huh
when is new content coming?
>>587702695Many are rerolling around the 30 level range.
>>587702683draenei are not a monster race you clown, they're just another human:except blue race.they are also quite literally impossible to shoehorn into the lore without going full TBC, which would be a catastrophic error.
Why does mining/skinning/herbalism not give legacy points?
whats the teceh to getting 10 legacy points with everything being vendor prices
>>587702790beta pussy professions
>>587701536I swear orc shoulders are even bigger in forever than usually
>>587702760I got to 24 on Classic my first time and quit/burnt out.Sounds like a very universal experience.
>>587702790because they are extremely easy to level relative to crafting and they didn't want to push people into grinding them just to get points.
Uhhh people are actually buying skelf starter gearFor 5g+WHAT THE FUCK
my, you're a tall one
>>587702768With that logic orc are just human but green
not unexpected but pvp consumes are a lot more expensive on the pvp server
Are (You) having fun in the PvP ruleset?
>>587702854>push people into grinding them just to get points.Brother they're doing that with the crafting ones already
>>587702141There will be a retcon trust the plan just like their oopsie with skyborne being horde
>>587702860transmog nigga, when you equip it you get permanent access to the mogs.
>>587702940Yeah but like this is 5-10g for 2 minute investement
why leveing blacksmithing and mining is so hard
if warrior isn't top dps, isn't the game just fucking retail?
>>587702963?transmog is perma now little sis!
>>587702936Their "oopsie" was making Mage unavailable to Horde Skyborne. Stupid fucking retard shit.
>>587702936It wouldn't be much of a heavy lift either since she herself resurrects mograine, to my knowledge one of the only instances of resurrection not performed by a player i.e. can't just be considered a gameplay contrivance. just cook up some bullshit about the light saving her.
>>587702996this is forevernot classicnot retail.learn.
>>587703029go back to retail
>>587702860the stuff you get for starting the game as Skelf? Horde or Alliance gear?
my priest is high on a friday morning
>>587702963If you didn't buy the blue elves you can't get the gear any other way but buying from the AH.>>587703074all of the skelf stuff in general.
>>587703068no this is foreverlearn
>>587703102>>587703074>>587703003I am gonna make bank with this
>>587702860Just because people list it at that price doesn't mean it sells.
>>587703131eh I wouldn't count on it. I doubt there is a big demand volume for them, just a minority of people who really really want them. Once you saturate that market you either lose people to sell to or get undercut.
>>587702996pretty much yeahclass with the least amount of QoL and most reliance on other players to function should have the highest potential dps ceiling. og wow devs knew this and was one of the many things they got correctobviously aggrend being a fat nigger and fagadin main has no idea what he's doing so balance is all over the shop
Ogre status?
>>587703186It sold anon>>587703189There is
>>587703201seethe brownonly reason warriors were top dps is that it was the only finished class
>>587703201>class with the least amount of QoL and most reliance on other players to functionYou should be glad then because warrior is currently a contender for best solo class in the game. That means you have no further complaints about being the best dps by an absurd margin right?
do you think wow forever will actually be good forever? do you see people sticking with it 6 months or a year down the line?
>>587703212>It sold anonshow proof
>>587703078he is also a shadow priest
>>587703242No they were the top dps because they were scuffed as fuck mechanically which they didn't fix until TBC. Rage as a mechanic in vanilla is irreparably broken and led directly to warriors crazy high dps.Hell they were even outright bugged with heroic strike, queued attacks like heroic strike and cleave were unintentionally suppressing the miss chance of off hand white hits until fucking CATACLYSM.
>>587703265We don't know. It entirely depends on how the devs handle future updates. We have never had a version of WoW before that wasn't expected to get replaced by an expansion before.
>>587703265I am playing it the same way I played Classic in 2019. For two, three months at most, and then never touching it again.
>>587703265i want to see what they will do with game updates
>>587703242only based class you mean>>587703260prot is overtuned but so is prot pally. their dps specs need work, or perhaps its too early to tellbut im sure if fury is top dog you'll have a sook on the forums about it right?
I am not watching my threatI am not taking my threat talentsIf my shadowbolt crits, you better come up with somethingsorry!
female undead rethellooo
>>587703023Holy based. #saveWhitemane Make it trend
>>587703265I don't know, but knowing blizzard they'll try and make more money from it, whether that's expansions or something else.
What are the best legacy point spends?t. newbab
>doing wailing caverns>sneeze>shit myself>need to sit in my soupy poopy for the entire dungeon
>>587703463>prot is overtunedSo what you're saying is, you don't actually care about qol or solo sustainability, those are just arbitrary bullshit complaints you dishonestly reference as a justification for having laughably overtuned dps.what a shock.
>>587703538also I'm trans by the way
>>587702514Elves are devolved trolls so they are horde
>>587703260Why does paladin get to be better than warrior in damage
POC bros are we good?
I actually want to see dk in the gameand make blood spec dps i would suck satyr dick for this
Are enhancement shamans supposed to aim for fast weapons or slow ones
>>587702630It takes the dps of the weapon, ignoring speed and min-max damage
>>587703265go watch a review of sod and compare it to the new forever dungeons like alcaz and shaper's. you'll look at karazhan crypts and scarlet enclave and realize that forever is deader than dead. they took all the complaints of the people who quit sod and made a game based on that instead of just making a decent game.
>>587703520I NEED to impregnate Whitemane. I NEED TO!
>>587703626All classes should be competitive on damage, the fact that whatever given class is stronger than the other at a particular time is not evidence of a blizzard conspiracy against you and your preferred class, anon.
>>587702514>Elves don't fit the theme of Horde!Traditional Drow are more hardcore than any of the pussy faggot races in Horde except Forsaken, who they still "lil bro".
>>587702768This is why satyrs are the way to go. They are like draenei but fit the world.
I'm really enjoying forlo but the way blizzard decided to handle layers/servers is absolutely retarded. Servers still exist and they even show you which one you're on (english-x). But you as a player have absolutely zero fucking recourse if the population isn't to your liking or you want to switch for whatever other reason. Were a week into this fucking shit and it's already taking me 2 hours to fill an rfd and this is admitted by blizzard to be the biggest wow launch they've ever had. This shits ridiculous man just let me pick my own fucking server.
I went horde to kill asmongold.
>>587703665So I just want 2h weapon with high dps? Is there any difference between bear and cat? Are stats more important for druid?
>>587703265this game will actually be retail- in a couple of years so I'm going to enjoy it until then
2.4 wandjust hit 260 with it
I'm in the elven sexwoods
>>587703265it all comes down to how fun the raids are and if they make the game not raid log simulator.
What's this fucking thing?
Had the misfortune of seeing a clip of troonphy's failed attempt at world first lvl 60. He had a pet alliance druid that would just run ahead of him at all times so he could charge it just to be 1 second fasterThat was quite possibly the most pathetic loser shit I've seen, both from troonphy and the faggot simp acting like the personal charge bag
>>587703712satyrs are just demon corrupted night elves aren't they? how could that possibly fit as an alliance race, presumably night elves would have a problem with it.
>>587703420the first two to three months are always the shittiest waste of time of every release for me. there was catchup stuff in sod where you could just skip all the bullshit and experience all the new content in a couple days.
>>587703696then all classes should get immunities, self heals, spammable debuff removal, spammable purge, long duration incapacitate, a sprintwhy should damage be the only thing that is equalized among the classes?
>>587703265I have high hopes. My main worry is that there are so many version of non retail wow now (5 classic + forever + hardcore forever) that I fear the players might be too fragmented to survive when people stop playing after the first month
need a cute nelfie healslut...
>>587703658Slow. When you get windfury procs you want those extra swings to hit as hard as possible. Stormstrike also deals weapon damage.
>>587703841Woops! Looks like fatgrend forgot to remove another sod asset
remind me why i'm in my mid 30's paying this subscription againwhy do I do it? why do I always return to this shit hamster wheel
>>587702410>>but horde now also gets a ring of blood,Excuse me?
>>587703640i wouldn't debase myself to play wow, but any version of this game without dk and dh are doa.
>>587703746Dps then stats. Bear and cat should be the same.
>>587703827me and tha zugs on the way
>>587703985>i wouldn't debase myself to play wowWhy are you in this general lil bro?
>>587702630>>587703746>>587703993I just learned about Druid for the first time, holy shit, so I can basically be like a shapeshifting jack of all trades and do my much desired rogue-style world pvp gank fantasy stuff I have in mind as a first time PVPer, and I'm like a magical swiss army knife that can gank and rip and tear and tank and self-sustain and GOTTA GO FASTand I have to do wicked sick combos on my keyboard or something like I'm actually "playing a real game"???
>>587703889You mean like mortal strike (strongest pvp debuff in the game by a mile), thunder clap (very strong pve debuff), battle shout, sunder armor, demo shout, shield wall, recklessness, retaliation, only guaranteed crush immunity with shield block etc. etc.You know, all those things that your class with no utility has that no other class has. Oh aside from also the ability to tank of course, which conveniently does not count as being a hybrid to you for completely arbitrary and stupid reasons.
>>587703843They said they were sorry
>make femhuman warlock>name her Freeuse Forsuccubi>level to 20 and do the quest>unequip pantsYep. Solo questing time.
>>587703842Even with all the outside help Jokerds group had they still weren't petty enough to do something like that
does WSG not have a time limit? ~I feel like i just spend 50 minutes in game?
Did they add anything to the bloodsail bucc?
>>587704035Yeah.The con is that you will look the same for the whole game, robbing you of a sense of progression.
>>587704029schadenfreude.
>this is prime time in Australia on RPFUCK my friends for making me play here
>>587702514Darkfallens are part of the Forsaken since Vanilla. They are the only flavour of Elves that Forever Horde should hadgot
>>587703993thanks fren>>587704035yea druid is pretty kino and probably pretty strong in forever (it's blizzards favorite class in retail)
>>587703265you lost 2/3rds of the pop since release night a week ago retardo, what do you think?
>>587703919omw
>>587704116More like obsession
lol blizz stealth removed this from skelf area
>>587704178but I said cute nelfie... not blue slut elf...
>>587704129i played on servers like this during original wow and constantly had to hop around because the servers kept getting deleted. it was kino because manipulating small markets is very easy and getting into the best guilds was also easy.
>>587703265no lmao
>>587704230isn't this just a generic cooking recipe you can get almost anywhere?
>>587704230why?
I hate these no shoe wearing, good for nothing, hut living green tyrones so much
>>587704237:<>>587704275no its from the skelf ara>>587704280no idea
>>587702683Worgen mate. The next two races datamined were darkfallen elves (Blood magic addiction instead of arcane magic addiction) and worgens>>587703712>>587703843>>587704057Satyrs are THE ancestral enemies of the Night Elves and have ancient beefs with the original worgens too. If some sort of de-demonized satyrs will be playable, they would only somewhat fit the Horde for lack of option, and for the share "former slaves of the Legion" past with the orcs
>>587704146>probably pretty strong in foreverhand on shoulder meme I mean I guess it's not elemental shaman
>>587704286Did they tear up your bussy gain?
>>587703841Dropped an [igneous toy] blue item, unique. Dunno what it does. I didn't get one, but some people did.
>>587704318>The next two races datamineddatamined by who? where?
>>587704318They said they were really sorry, ok
>>587702145So they already opened the foot, to future weeklies. And you're basically coping that it's fine because the quest is long? Lol, lmao even.
hopefully they make some fixes to caster spell power soon
>>587704318>dataminedfor fucks sake, it's from a fake /v/ leak
>>587703690Anduin...
>>587704182it's only ever schizophrenia if you are wrong.
I want to have sex with men and taste their salty cum on my tongue and lips
Femorc animations are really good as warrior
>>587704343We're going to see what gear the new raids give. Druid is fucking busted in wpvp and bgs.https://youtu.be/PFLykrlCOC8?t=11
how are the other arrangements going, hordebros
>>587704439A healer player, here in the flesh
>>587704416what's wrong with spell power? I'm playing mage and haven't noticed anything weird
The fact that Riverglades introduces a whole new ogre clan whose storyline is about joining the Horde gives me hope ogrebros
ive wasted this entire day getting an entire 3 levels. who here JUST?
So how long until Blizzard realises they fucked up PvP realms beyond repair and offer alliance players a free ruleset swap?I give it until christmas, they know it’s unfixable
>>587704492Hey hey heyI play priest and I masturbate to trap porn but only as a top
>>587704521>only 3 levelsbased dungeon enjoyer
>>587704481those are some proper annoying personalities, why do people like watching this shit?
>>587701932Why not do it earlier on that little island?
>>587704178>ask for a woman, a tranny shows upi can understand why so many get punched out and abused.
I HATE THE WHACKY COMIC FALLING ANIMATION OF FEMORC
>>587704554They'll instead give Horde a free realmswap, and then when no one does, blizz starts drawing random lottery for forced swaps
playing this game gives me depression, subtle subconscious voice that says your wasting your time playing this
>>587704579been running around trying to do these fucking STUPID sunken temple chain quests. but i did that new dungeon in theramore at least
>>587704237>>587704613whats the diff
this herb has already been cultivated
psa: check every races starting gearyou could be sitting on tons of gold
>johnson wang has sex three times>fired off the planet>bobby has sex with everyone with a vagina>promoted to emperorblizzard was really something back in the day.
>>587704481This guy was ultra based during SoD, but I can't stand the faces he's making and the way he talks in the podcasts now.>we sorta tinkered with the->what we did, is that we kinda changed the->it's super cool what the team came up->it's amazing what we did-eugh
>>587702039>oppressed is when noshoes genocidal maniacs face consequences>actually bringing political kike in chief>won't get murked for off topic >
*runs across durotar to smooch you*
>>587704679>new dungeon in theramoreuhhh... Hwat now son?
>>587704817I miss Bobby
>>587704439
How do you guys use these threads without the md5 image filter that hides all frogposter posts?
world pvp is fundamentally dogshit, but playing on a pvp world is worthwhile because of the added tension in travel when you encounter an enemy player
>>587704112>>587704146 My peak level in WoW is like level 27 Classic and I played a Lock so my only experience of "progression" was "my hideous patchwork low poly dress now has a purple stripe and tabard down the middle instead of a red one"I've never experienced visual "progression" in WoW yet.
>>587704035Paladin does this but better
>>587704872
Are mounts account bound?Can i get a wolf mount from orcs on my undead pally?
>join a dungeon group>after 15 min everyone finally gets to the entrance>tanks says brb 5 min>he comes back 10 min later and somebody drops a campfire>5 min of discussion about who got what buffs>1 min for campfire buff>about to finally enter>some dipshit: wait guys i have sleeping bagAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>587704112>>587704904there's transmog this time.
>>587704872Uh sweetie, we love frog posters round here
>>587704962Crossing fingers for being able to use the serpent form forever as a druid
>>587704841meh you can't expect too much. constantly equivocating every statement like that is something people without public speaking talent or experience do all the time. he's not a trained PR rep he's a technical guy.
>pve trannys still insecure they rolled on the wrong ruleset that they have to shitpost here 24/7 about their wrong server choice>atleast they didnt roll rppvp
I miss them so much bros...
>taking it super slow>still lvl 9>install spoken>take it even more slow>giga comfy naration of quests>lore shit i have never heard of because always insta accepting questsholy fucking how is this so kino alds
Tikaasi Mutei and Muriel Tilse are my characters. The highlander is someone else entirely. I made Muriel in an effort to keep myself busy because the person I like has absolutely no fucking interest in me, and by liking them I potentially ruined any fucking friendship I have ever had with them. I hang out with Geez because she is one of the EXTREMELY few people who don't treat me like absolute fucking garbage. I'm not trying to fuck her, I'm not trying to EB her, I don't simp for her. 90% of the time I talk to someone here one on one they treat me like I'm some ancient evil that's going to curse them if they get to close. Someone asked me out during the CC meetup and when I talked to them about it they spent the entire time asking if talking to me was going to result in them getting schizoposted. I don't get it dude, what the fuck did I do to deserve so much god damn ire from you all that you make this shit up about me all day long, making genuine friends is damn near impossible because every single one of them comes to me thinking that I'm going to do some heinous shit like dox them.I come here as an attempt to escape from my shitty fucking life, and all you do is make it worse.
>>587704042surein retail multiple classes have MS. druids have a tclap effect as well as demo shout. expose armor is a thingif you want to have damage be equal across the board, then all the qol features that classes get should also be evenly distributed
>>587704962everything looks like shit until the new HD tier sets
>>587704931sounds comfy
>>587704439Every blood elf female...skelf female...night elf female...
>>587701978not good bruddas
>>587702850Yeah zoomers get filtered before the actual filter, kek zekek.
>>587705039yeah i found out duskwood twilight grove used to be a volcano!
>>587705037I don't. They are the ultimate personification of lore rape and the complete derailment of the warcraft setting into quasi-scifi.and let's be real here, the only reason you like them is because you like to jerk off to the women.
>>587705037there will be tbc forever at blizzcon next year to milk the blizzdrones again.
why are people bored already?
>>587705039>slowmaxer>professionmaxer>running dungeons for extra lootare we the true winners?
>>587705091dang!
>>587702004Everyone is undead pally. Like 40% of the horde.
>>587705126because they don't have friends and had unrealistic expectations
>>587704931nnigga you don't got a second monitor? you're gonna die from waiting
Im beginning to think EU servers are still being routed to US>>587702004I wish undead were uprightIsnt there a console command that gets flesh back on their bones or something
>>587705052>in retail multiple classes have MSand that's related to this.... how?How much of a dps penalty should warriors suffer for having exclusive access to MS? and druids don't have a tclap debuff by the way, that wasn't added until wotlk. How much dps is that worth? How about tanking, you are a hybrid class after all since you can tank. That's worth good amount of penalty in the dps ranking isn't it?
So I solo'd the elemental boss at the atart of Gnomer until he dropped the aoe dagger for my rogue, what should I get for my MH? I still use a sword from sfk at 36
>>587705126Their free trial ended.
>just realized savory deviate delight will have the fuckass HD human male skeletonI actually might just reroll an orc female because I have zero hope blizz will fix it
>>587705078I'm not a zoomer, I was like 29 at the time and didn't play WoW growing up so wasn't buffed by nostalgia.
>>587705097outlands being a shattered mass of space rocks and aliens was canon before wow even existed.
>>587703520>No breasts>giant thighs>butt bigger than head>shaved>slopPorn brain.
>>587705037They are waiting for you in retail, NIGGER
>jaina was a greenloverofc
>>587705126BECAUSE THE GAME IS FUCKING BORING NIGGAIT'S CLASSICCLASSIC IS FUCKING BORING
>Enhacement shaman is still really good>Dungeon experience is at a perfect spot>Casters are not underpowered they just come online later>There isn't a healer shortage you just dont whisper peopleany other retarded complaints of the masses
I’m making other arrangements tonight and let’s just say those arrangements involve my penis and Aggrends asshole.
>>587701567>american indian, african and jamaican themed faction is banned from creating more characters due to overpopulation issuesummm... aggrend?!
>>587705264yeah you know what wasn't canon? Draenei being a hyper advanced race of spacefaring goat people with pet wind chime gods that jizz out light juice. And you know what else wasn't canon? demons being space aliens from different planets enslaved by an even bigger space alien empire instead of being malevolent beings from some hell-like plane of existence. among many many many other retarded TBC things that should never exist in wow again.
>>587705349None of these have been an issue for me
>>587705237its actually le oppositethe hd model uses the sd skeleton!
>>587705208having all specs be comparable in dps is a retail thing, not a classic thing. requesting this change moves things further to the side of retail. so in the spirit of fairness, all utility and quality of life features that classes have should also be given to all classes, ala retail.a class like paladin can do equal dps to a warrior, im totally fine with that, however utility the paladin gets needs to be given to the warrior, and vice versa.
>>587705349Dungeon xp is ass. I got 10k from doing RFD. It took almost 40 minutes. That means it would take about 440 minutes to level just from running it. That is no where even close to questing rates.
>>587705237Wdym? The whole games SD character models are upscaledThis is far from era
>>587705269Lotta words to say you're homosexual
>>587705459Dungeons give the best loot why the fuck would they give better experience
>>587705361heh love me little frogs mon
i think ahpmy is bored already. he doesn't even talk on stream. game just has no content.
is STV already vietnam pvp frens?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3tvaSSJoyI
*breets in*IS THIS DO BEIN A REFERENCE DOEEEEEEEEEE???
>>587705431Right but we aren't talking about retail. We're talking about classic where warriors have a myriad of unique utility and access to two roles, which means they should be dps second class citizens to classes like rogues and hunters right? Having utility and being multi-role means you get a dps penalty in vanilla, so how much should the dps tax man charge you for all those things?Here's the problem. You're so retarded you actually believed the bullshit story about warriors supposedly not having any utility that braindead parsefags would always circlejerk over as a justification for warriors being blatantly broken.
Should I just start killing everything in sight?
>earthroot went from 60s ea. to 7s ea.But why? Do people not know where to find it?
Sex with _______
>>587705431You're a retard brother. Warrior is by far the absolute weakest class when it comes to pvp balanace now. They were behind in classic, but it's exponentially worse now because other classes had their damage buffed. Warrior has the fewest cc abilities, is melee only, and has no healing. Being ahead on damage was its only strength. You're right that some classes need buffs due to the dps increases, but you're completely wrong about which classes should get those buffs.
femorccomfy time
>>587705361>doesn't mention Forsaken>literally 1/5th of the entire fucking playerbase>and Sylvanas was Warchief so long her Warchief career is a legal adult>somehow Horde doesn't belong to them in your mind
>>587705505
>>587705586Yes but look in a mirror first.
>>587705605It's not worth your time to traipse around low level shitter areas for a handful of herbs you need to get to alch level 50 when you can do a level 60 quest for 5g a pop or whatever, so they pay some level 20 to do it for them.
i wish i went horde GRAHHHHH
>>587705632
>>587705586What in the fullmetal alchemist is that picture
>>587705505Oh my bad, I didn't realizie I was guaranteed to get evey single drop I want from a single dungeon run. Doing it now is totaly worth it!
>>587705581This is an homageCata is what added the referenceslop
>>587705632male dwarves!
>>587705585we aren't talking about classic either. we're talking about forever.you can request the game be more like one iteration, but then you open the door for people to request it be like another.you want equal dps? sounds good. you also get equal utility. either you're fine with all of it and you get what is essentially retail running on the classic client in the classic world or none of it and you get stock vanilla. you don't get to pick and choose.
>>587705381they're not hyperadvanced. their space ships are literally just floating power crystals magically constructed and ported around by the naaru. you don't even know the lore and you're trying to shit on it.
>>587705381Yea but blue sky elves thought up by they/them’s is A ok!
I'm playing on rppvp and every single time I've been ganked by a ?? level player it's been someone I've reported for not having an RP compliant name. What causes this?
>>587704856whatever the island is called, alcaz
>I rushed to the end of the game before any raids are released and now I am boredyeah nigga because you skipped all the content to get a meaningless first place in a race no one was running
>>587705632you :)
>>587705738You didn't answer my question. Warriors are hybrids. That's a dps tax penalty. Warriors have unique utility, that's taxable. We both agree on this, only pure dps escape the tax which warriors are NOT. So what amount of tax are you willing to pay?
>>587705424made me look I guess, thanks for lying>>587705465I'm talking about the skeleton, not texture upscaling
>>587705691leave clubtoe alone...
>>587705684loktar
>>587705662blud...
>>587705632Sally Whitemane with my big blond cock
>>587705758b-but the twitch revenue
>>587705740>flying around outer space in your magical spaceship powered by your captive pet god totally isn't advanced lolmeanwhile in westfall farmer johnson tends to his wheat crop with hand forged iron tools driven by a mule.
>mixing retail assets with vanilla assetsyuck
>>587705645we're on the same side here
i fucking hate this general, you all suck. spend more time leveling and less shitposting
>>587701428>literal tranny elves>>587701470>biofemslollmao>pic related
>>587705882meanwhile gnomes
>>587705882dalaran is an entire floating city, you ignoramus. >oh no the light beings can portal just like the demons. my headcanon is brokennnnnnn aiiieeeee.
>>587705924>can people on this forum please post less
>>587705924Shut the fuck up and whip that cock out and let me suck it.
>>587705632Gnomes!
>>587705961are still laughably low tech compared to draenei.
>>587705924
>>587705786there is no hybrid tax in forever as inferred by the devs. in vanilla it doesn't matter what you think or feel about said tax because the game is made how it is. the argument is moot.
>>587705729>wahhh hand feed me everythinggggg i need to be 60 asap and have the best gear handed to me
>>587706000Nigga, wethey have nukes.
>>587706021>that namekys
>>587705808i wish there were 2 pvp servers…fuck blizzard for making only 1 pvp server and faction restricting your account
>>587706021>tfw no cute troll wifey
IT'S UPIT'S FUCKING UPIT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UP IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WWp8WcpkU
>>587706021horrible namewtf is that
I see they and tarnished undermine reals and the vendor from SoD. Does he sell any armor/weapons yet?
>>587706026>there is no hybrid tax in forever as inferred by the devs.They literally explicitly confirmed they will have a hybrid tax though.> in vanilla it doesn't matter what you think or feel about said tax because the game is made how it isRight so you're just giving up completely on trying to maintain a coherent argument now and are electing to stomp your feet, cry and piss your pants instead.Hate to tell you this champ but throwing tantrums is something you are supposed to grow out of in kindergarten.
>>587706026>no hybrid taxthey literally said theres a hybrid tax of about 5% retard
>>587706021is ele any good at 60?>filenamefuck i fell for the b8
>all of these australian guilds that put OCE at the end of their namewhat a bunch of fags
>>587706129>They literally explicitly confirmed they will have a hybrid tax though.then im sure you'll be able to source that for mei'm right though. it's irrelevant. this is NOT classic. your feefees on warriors being hybrids don't apply in the context of forever.again, if you want equal dps, you also get equal utility. otherwise you are not for the spirit of fairness and just want to eat your cake and have it too, which i suspect is the case
Say that to my Face
>>587705892it amplifies about 100x the higher level you are.
>>587706000however, compared to Farmer Johnson with his hand-forged tools and a mule
>>587705037nobody misses male draenei like 90% of draenei players were female models
Can love bloom between a femskelf and a femhuman?
>>587706042>strawmanI don't give a fuck if leveling 1-60 takes 50 days played. I just want killing level appropriate monsters during that process to always be worthwhile, regardless of which level appropriate monsters are being killed. It's not about how fast I level, or about the items. It's about effort being appropriately rewarded. Getting 5 people together to a single location, and fighting elite enemies requres dramatically more effort than running around following your restedxp arrow. Your dumb faggot tranny ass is so fixated on being fast that you miss the point.
>>587705947people paid $60 to be trannycoded.
what're we thinking?
sovl
horde should be beating down on alliance. an orc is much stronger than a human. have you played wc3? footman stood no chance 1v1 vs a grunt.
>>587706427Garbage
>>587706478ok why
>>587706274>then im sure you'll be able to source that for meAggrend explicitly stated in their podcast they are targeting a 5% tax on hybrid classes. Which includes warriors by the way.>i'm right though. it's irrelevant. this is NOT classic.See this is a classic contradiction. Earlier your argument was that classic was correct to give warriors a dps advantage because they supposedly were not hybrids with no utility. When it was pointed out to you that they are in fact hybrids with plenty of utility, suddenly classic doesn't matter anymore.I suspect that you don't actually care about having a healthy competitive game and instead have a pathological obsession with playing an objectively numerically superior class because you are loser who has never accomplished anything in life outside of wow.:)
>>587706373you fucking retards are so irritating, if you want to run dungeons just fucking run dungeons>i dont care if it takes 50 daysexcept you clearly fucking do. you dont like dungeons you like experience but are too lazy to do the main fucking point of the game which is questing and exploring the worldwow isnt a fucking dungeon crawler and its not going to be give rewards as if it is
>>587706472Humans are stronger than Orcs in WC3 albeit
are you supposed to be in here
Reminder that alliance players calling horde players brown is jeet and spic projection. They want to be white badly so they exaggerate and try to appear white online. Real white people don't have to try.
>>587701832The trick is that it does fuck all damage.
What if Anzu but big
>>587706098https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=227853/pix-xizzixhttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/npc=227853/pix-xizzixSomeone should go check.
i want to do stockades someday with my friend who is not a rogue or druidis there some trick to getting into stormwind unmolested for just long enough to enter stockades?I thought about an invisibility potion but they only last like 20 seconds
>>587706564not with equal population though
>>587706472Lore accurate WOW would have stronger warriors on horde but stronger casters on alliance
>>587706309Well, it's definitely made for the private server audience, I'll say that.
>>587706648death run. just unequip your gear until you instance in.
>>587706502HD fem undead is garbage
>>587706502She looks like Joan Rivers.
SOVL
Cuuuuuuute skelf!!
>>587706651who is stronger than thrall?
>>587706694>>587706680assholesx1
>>587706705did you set the RBF to 11 or what jesus.
>>587706797>>587706427toggle sd models and ill tell you how i like her on my screen
>>587706851
>>587706913cute....
>>587706913uhh..uhhm she has a nice smile i guess
>>587706971<3
>>587705586Asuna is a golden retriever <3
stfu trannies
>>587705729god you're a whiny baby
ok I'm done questingthere is literally no point
>>587706772jimmy smitts if bald (true)
Why’s the thread so dead? Where did everyone go?
>>587707206playing
>>587706373>It's about effort being appropriately rewardedYou're complaining that you aren't guaranteed to get every drop you want out of a dungeon, thus making the time/xp gained the only metric you can evaluate the dungeon by. But you also coincidently forget there are other people in the group with you, whose effort WAS rewarded with good loot. Do they not matter? Is a dungeon not a social effort? Are you perhaps a warrior main?
I really like how my cloak clips through my shield as I'm running, some real quality stuff blizzard
>>587707206Free trial thing ran out. A lot of people don’t even have $15 kek. Thankfully my rich parents bought me a house and a wow subscription, or else I’d be playing swtor free trial.
>>587707176>archinonde when there’s some smoke around himCough cough weeze
>>587707176>haranir in foreverPOGGIES!!!!
>>587707259the leaves and foliage are just rotating pngs, can we say it together? LAZY. where is the fully 3d rendered foliage with textures and physics?
Chomp, chompCrocodile Hunter, big Steve IrwinCrocodile Hunter, action manCrocodile Hunter, Terri tooCrikey, it's a croc, I'll save it if I canKhaki shorts (Khaki shorts)Short-sleeved shirt (Short-sleeved shirt)Jungle boots (Jungle boots)Running in the grass and wrestling in the dirtCrocodile Hunter, big Steve IrwinCrocodile Hunter, action manCrocodile Hunter, Terri tooCrikey, it's a croc with razor sharp teeth
He troll you want some of this?
>>587706738>who is stronger than thrall?Malfurion
>>587703971In Riverglades, the horde that already gets showered in blue gear from better dungeon quests (especially 1h weapons) has an entire ring of blood questline like TBC/Wrath/Cata etc exclusively for them. Gives them blue rings iirc.
>>587707464no.
>It's not fuarking retoooiletBest leveling is questing, instead of dungeoneering like retoilet.This is the truth nuke anti-dungeon shitters can't cope with. Dungeoneering should ALWAYS be optimal XP because it is the main focus of the game, world is for shitters who play solo to be griefed by dungeon/raid emperors.You don't agree? Well, the answer is easy and repeat after me little retoilet!>My skin is brown! My mind is sharts! I'm a retarded, casual, dumb retoilet!
>>587707597malfurion is literally warcraft superman in the lore lmao. he's one of the strongest characters in the entire setting.
When does beta end so I can start playing properly?
>Make femorc because they're fucking sexy as hell>Try out HD for once, all my other alts are SD>All the skin colors changed drastically So tired of this SD/HD waste of fucking time, retarded devs
>healer has to take a smoke break every 3rd trash pack>halfway through the dungeon has to leave because his wife wants to go to the storesovl... i'm finally home...
i'm gonna be rich...
>>587707639malfurion was scared of illidan even before illidan became the half demon thinghe must be weak
>>587707397you laugh, but there's wolvar in this game already.
>>587707736raped by satyr shade in legionsaved by his le strong wife
>level 60 in trade chat selling lvl 300 enchanting with all of the current enchantsi hate sweats
>>587706651correctalso horde should be very low quantity the alliance should be very high quantity
>official forums is full of alliance claiming they are quitting / going pve, and alliance cackling in glee at the horde pvp lockI didn't think the buckbreaking would take effect so quickly hordebros....
>>587707736in lore malfurion is so strong he easily clears every single WC3 character combined except for LK arthas. It's actually stupid how absurdly powerful he is in the books and shit, it's part of the reason why they always had to write him out of the story with some bullshit about being asleep, because if he was awake there would be much less reason for any catastrophic shit to be happening because he could solo most of it.
Did I fuck up by rolling Horde on NA PvP?
It's already over.
>>587707760Pics or it didn't happen
wow otco yalp
>>587707176that ARchimonde quest text reeks of AI.
>>587707874i think his name is goretek.
>still 7 hours of wageslaving until I can playFuck, I'm still level 25 because of this and my gf who is constantly demanding time, I just want to heal niggas and get some loot, still 15 levels for shadowform
>>587707871what a fag lmao
>>587707736Illidan got nerfed by becoming a demon hunter, he was much stronger as a mage.
>>587703532Rested XP into talents earlier if you make alts. Whatever you want if no alts
>>587707871>um what do you mean I can't make horde on the pvp server??? I want there to be 80/20 ratio fuck those alliance chuds
>alliance players quit pvp>horde character creation on pvp never opens up again>pvp ruleset is, effectively, locked
>>587707929No pics therefore it didn't happen
>>587707861Only if you like being the underdog or have friends/family that are going to be late to the party. I find Horde community on NA much better than ally.
maybe i should finally try to heal a dungeon
>>587707931kys normfag
>>587707887what was the peak private server
>>587707736>malfurion was scared of illidan even before illidan became the half demon thing>illidan as a half demon thing at full power lost to arthas who was actively dying and weakened Being undead just makes you built different.
>>587704416>I can only aoe farm 12 mobs at a time instead of 15 :’(Fuck off
>>587708013will you apologize and spread if i show you? it's not worth my time otherwise.
>>587708005Being locked is the natural state of Horde players.
>>587708076so in total we getmalfurion < illidan < arthas < thrall
>>587706472>>587706738>>587707597Being a green tyrone is a mental illness.
alliance bros...I'm surrounded by superior orc cock in STV...I'm leaking.
>>587707871>buy wow foreverYou can't refund a subscription too.
>>587707871Honestly aggressive free horde to Alliance faction transfers is the only possible solution at this point.
>>587707840Why can't the Alliance into lok’tar ogar?
>>587708073Nost, because it was the only pserver to actually capture the spirit of vanilla
>>587708148Put Sylvanas between Arthas and Thrall.
>level 50+ grey items give 1-4 golddude whati need to level faster
>>587708073Nost for pure ClassicTurtle for Classic+
>>587707675No point starting, you are too far behind already
>>587708148You forgot malfurion < illidan < arthas < thrall < that one ogre
if you're lower than 34, you're a normieif you're higher than 34, you're a neet lol
>>587705272i dont play horde
>join group>they're french>its over
>>587708259Yeah the greens go for 100g to a vendor
>Level 40>20g off mount. Fuck.What do brevs? Skinning and leatherworking has not served me well these past few days.
>>587708370no they dont
>>587708369"French"
>>587708398buy gold
>>587708398Sling bussy in SW
Hutner or pally
>level 25>12gnot gonna make it but at least i'm a druid
>>587708398Go grind the swamp jaguars in swamp of sorrows for like 2 or 3 hours and you'll have the gold you need
>>587705471Said the nigger faggot.
>>587708453I’m not a streamer so Blizzard will ban me for that.
What actually is that peculiar psychosis that leads warrior players to think warriors are not just not hybrids, but somehow the most pure of the pure dps? and therefore totally deserving of doing 3x the dps of everyone else?I main warrior myself and I have never had this perspective. I have always wanted nothing more than the game to be competitive and balanced, and I think vanilla warrior dps is astronomically dumb. Then again I primarily play for pvp and don't give a fuck at all about snoozefest raiding so.
>>587706080Honestly thrill of adventure makes grinding such a breeze. Rarely need bandages and food is only eaten for buff.
>>587704230What do you mean? I just made these today
>>587708560warriors are melee without being stealth hybrids
>/wowfg/ is talking about some streaming nigger
>>587708560warriors don't do good dps thougheverbeit
How uh, how do i get tailoring enchant to 150 for the legacy points the quickest?
>>587708610So what is a hybrid and which class is not a hybrid?
Wowamazingthanks
>>587707931why would you play an rpg if you're larping irl? that's like grinding twice for nothing.
>stonescale eel selling for 1.5s on the AH>grave moss 1.8s>small flame sacs 4sI'm not gonna have my 60% mount at 40, but I'll have my epic mount at 60
>>587708560DPS warriors don’t provide any utility to the group so that means they should be pumping huge numbers instead.
>people are still under cutting vendor pricesWhat the absolute fuck dude. Ive been buying this shit just to sell it to vendors for spite. But God damn.
Frenzied regen is fucking awesome for bear grinding, I really underestimated it
>>587708669You don't know a priest?
>>587708283
>tfw no nelf gf
I'm level 37 and still don't have a helmet.
>>587708758Why she got her punani out?
>>587708560Warriors are a fundamental class, they deserve to be strong alongside Mages, Priests and Rogues. Anything beyond those 4 is a special snowflake class and honestly could've never been added and nobody would miss them.
>>587708758She FUCKS cute blond boys alongside a cute nelf
>>587708669Your Stoneform, bro?
>>587708716The AH even uses "latest item sells first" so there's no need for undercutting, yet here we are.
my paladin has tailoring and enchantment
>>587708758yjk her pussy absolutely reeks
>literally every craftable item in AH is equal to base mats costImpressive, are retards using some addon for this
>>587708710They do though. They provide sunder armor which is a unique and singularly powerful debuff which is even more powerful in a raid stacked with 20 warriors. They can offtank successfully on demand even as full fury thanks to shield block providing flat crush immunity and shield wall granting 12 seconds of effective immortality. They provide thunderclap and demo shout which are both valuable debuffs. They have an on demand fear break straight up bypassing fear mechanics. They have an aoe slow in piercing howl for kiting. They have disarm another completely unique ability.Like I said, this is psychosis. Warriors actually rank pretty highly on the utility scale.
>>587708862
Why do I want spell power as a prot paladin? Maybe i'm missing something obvious but isn't holy strike my basic filler, so I should be getting Strength + stamina? Righteous fury gives me a lot of threat. I'm retarded as hell so I don't know what i'm missing.
>>587708881...of kodo cum
>>587708902we live in the day and age of ai vibe coding, there's at least 20 auction house addons nowadays
>>587708902It's almost like people are valuing leveling up their professions over the random bullshit green items that are a byproduct of that leveling.
>>587705097>>587705272>>587706353> hates and seethes about draeneiSorry faggots but draenei have always been in wow.
>>587708758Why are elven women allergic to normal pants?
so i've been reading up more on this new weekly quest discourse and i found out that people who are bootlicking it very hard are linked to r/wowevery single timejust a pattern i noticed, a retoilet imbecile is either an extreme bootlicker or someone who is praying for the downfall of this gamethis is why retoilets must and will be harassed, they are a blight >>587705947not trying to support these mentally ill trannies but you're no better than them for using those retoilet slop models
PSA Buy leveling greensYou can vendor them close to buy price
>>587707871>AAAAAAAHHH GREEN TYRONE SAVE ME!!
>>587708998Did you even read the post you are replying to?
>make my own party>ask mage for water>achstually it cost me a lot of mana so you have to wait>2 pulls without my water>insta kickedlook lil'bro, next time be ready to give me my fucking waters the moment i enter the dungeon, you're here just to make waters and to not roll for my gear, the fuck timmy was thinking?
>>587708710Meanwhile rogues doing next to nothing and being bottom of the barrel
>>587708283Totally not a retoilet mount btwObviously earned, and not bought too btw
ao conflicted what to play. i have a level 12 priest on pvp and a level 11 warrior on pve both horde…..i dont think id enjoy priest pvp at all, i rolled because “someone has to do it” and im enjoying the warrior a lot more to the point i WOULD enjoy pvp with her… im fucked. i have to make a warrior on pvp server now!?????
psa hunters are retarded. never invite them.
>>587709050we just call them horde niggers you faggot
>>587708913Sorry about your room temperature IQ, bro.
>>587709056yes, and my reply makes perfect sense. People want to level their professions, they have to make a pile of useless bullshit green items to do that. That means you are going to have an oversupply of those bullshit green items compared to the people that actually want to equip or use them for whatever reason. That means that the materials, the thing you need to get the skillups, are more valuable than the products. This is pretty basic stuff here.
>>587709102>He didn't know about huntardsWatching a hunter pull the void walker in the tower in darkshore made my night last night. Niggas be on autopilot and don't read quest descriptions.
>>587709092nigga you're horde, you don't have to worry about wpvp because there's a million of your green tyrone butt buddies around in every zone to back you up
>>587701814Well first, don't let yourself get jumped. Most classes lose if they get jumped (some exceptions apply).Second, yeah if you want to get casts off you need succubus. Unless you're doing the jumping.
is it me or darkshore has dogshit drop rates on everything
>>587708912>They provide sunder armor which is a unique and singularly powerful debuffrogues do it too
>>587704841who you talkin about? the streamer or the fat fuck? because both have been complete imbeciles always, especially the fat fuck dumb fucking bootlicker, we do not give a fuck about your sod anecdotes
>>587709064Tbf if he was X0 he creates 2 water each cast, but he could just sit out 1 or 2 packs while making the water, or simply make fuckton of water while waiting for everyone to show up so he indeed was retarded, probably even a retoilet.
>>587708636The same way you level up any profession. google "wow forever profession guide", then buy and craft the things it tells you to.
How bad is the spell power change to casters?
>>587709198Cool, what about everything else. Can rogues taunt a boss and pop shield wall when the tank dies?
As a priest who should I reasonably be able to kill in PvP? Huntards have been pretty easy to take so far.ps fuck rogue cunts and they're all undead and fucking wotf breaks my fear. Shits so gay.
>use a blue light filter>sunsets look extra lovely>go to take a screenshot>nvidia overlay stops me from doing sofuck THIS SHIT
>>587705381this. i like tbc as an expansion but it was really the start of lore going to dogshit.
>>587709082aw the little mommy's tendie's sissy is mad about p2w items in an mmo. yngmi.
>>587706456Pvmping
>>587709262Let's just say clothie casters are the 3 least picked classes in the game for a reason.
>>587709148EVERY item is at craft cost and you ignore like 95% of your recipe book while leveling so your reasoning doesn't even make any sense.
What's the average level on pvp? I'm level 5, am I fucked?
>>587709262>How bad is the spell power change to casters?rough early, gets better 30+, casters fucking pump 50+
ret brosdo we need str/intr gear?
>>587709196Naw man I did the quest for fangs in-between other quests and it took me to lvl 20 before I finished it.
>>587709159i know…does this mean its just pointless to play on a pvp server then? its also just boring as priest. i just wanted to be the healslut for pvp server boys…warriors really fun tho id enjoy it even if i was losing and dying a lot so should i reroll alliance warrior to even the scales… hmmm
>>587709293they can vanish
>>587709196The whole game has dog shit drop rates for everything. Peak 2004 design bruh.
>>587706602This jeetoid sounds triggered lolSaar
hmmm
>>587709349It doesn't make any sense that the raw materials needed to level a crafting skill are worth more than the byproducts that almost no one actually wants to equip yet are produced in massive quantity by people leveling their professions.anon you are what is called, economically illiterate.
sup homos. you all still gay? yeah? okay well that figures.maybe try feeding the company who hates you less.
alright, should i go to duskwood on lvl 20 or continue darkshore quests
>>587708528cute
>>587709262I hate how much items just have int completely replaced with spell power. Give me back my int.
>>587709392Doesn't sound very useful in a raid to be honest. Sounds like rogues should have more dps than warriors to me.
>>587709464
>>587709293>Can rogues taunt a boss and pop shield wall when the tank dies?They can pop an Evasion
>>587709310>actually admitted unprompted: this shit is P2WSo it is retoilet- after all, that was easy, huhbtw I was talking about how out of place it looks classhit drone lmao
Are the new crate turn in recipes in elwyn or wherever worth the hassle? Im just going into lvl 20, and im like 125 leather working. Actually where are they for the alliance.
>>587709519right. they're a coward class and shouldn't be useful.
>>587709198Expose armor is inferior for trash
>spent 5h flip flopping and creating new characters>another 3h spent at the barber
>>587709384desu I would just level your pve warrior for now and do bgs. you're not going to have fun on alliance unless you group for every quest plus the server is in a death spiral anyways
>>587709547and? they can't take aggro so what are they evading?and btw if a single attack happens to get through their dodge chance they will be oneshot, so it's not even reliable.
>>587709569redridge
>>587709523picrel is also (you) running to apply your mouth to blizzards balls and asshole :)
been thinking even more about the dungeon xp discourse thing while im still neutral im leaning more towards the against the nerf side nowtheres just so many of these dad gamer imbeciles infesting the pro nerf side because they are obsessed with the world and "immersing" themselves in their "journey" and think the world would be empty if the xp rates were like beforethat being said the against the nerf side certainly has some interesting characters, especially those booster imbeciles who need to be harassednot really sure what to do here
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>587709429Whatareyoueventalkingaboutgivemeapplepiereceipeinstead
>>587709612Thanks gamer. Worth the time?
>>587705269just filter this shit and move on, this AI jeet barely gets any replies as it is, it will off itself eventually
What the fuck
I hit 60 on Wednesday and I have over 20 arcane crystals, can't wait until they nerf the hyjal hyper spawn nodes so I can sell
>>587708913Deserved for being undead
>>587709241i was jesting for a bit, but yeah if i'm wasting 10m of my time looking for a healer, he can press a button 5 times and not spamming arcane explosion like a retard after someone ask for waters
>>587709660Demand for crafting materials is higher than the supply. Demand for crafting products is lower than the supply.Supply and demand anon.
>>587709626>Remove jiggle boobs>Add this to "classic"
>>587709682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMAm7jT3YyM
>>587709668The low level blue bop gear is technically some of the best you can get at that level. Expect twinks to be covered with that gear in the future.But is it WORTH it on a fresh server? Not really. If you want to be leveling fast then doing professions before 60 is still a big waste of time. It's easy to get good gear from dungeon quests.
>>587707871Isn't this nigger opposed to mass migrant/rapefugee importation?
>>587709625You already said this you dumb sissy choke on my cock
WRONG SHIP FUCK
>>587709782>If you want to be leveling fast then doing professions before 60 is still a big waste of timeyou could not be more wrong
>>587709787I think any sane person is???
>>587709625It's hard to say this but I think I understand you now, these journey fags are getting annoying
>>587701932Why didnt you do it earlier on the cliff right after the corpsemaker boss?
what are some cool potionsI'm levelling alchemy and herbalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX0Fw58FcsMArcane mages it's our time...
is it fun or nah
>>587709625This is the extent of tranimefaggot reasoning capabilities.
>>587709853How? If you are spending time sitting in a city crafting that means you aren't earning xp. The only benefit is some blue pieces you'll replace later anyway.Meanwhile we have these nifty little things called DUNGEONS you could be doing. They give you xp AND blue gear.
Can i change gender at the barbershop as well?
>>587709625you don't do nothing, you come to the realization that classic players are actual retards and they don't even know what they want, they run on nostalgia and the vibes of what they remember vanilla was (not even close to what actually was)
>>587709114nah green tyrone actually pisses off the dweebs here, hordenigger doesn't do shit
>>587708913How tf you gonna get diseased as an UD?
>>587710021Yes they can chop it off for you
>>587710010>you gotta rush dudethis is not era
>>587709948>They've got weapons specifically meant to target me now
>>587706353I'd roll a m Draenei Priest if they were available.
>>587710010level 10 blue is worth itcrafting in general is worth itits fun anon
>>587709939>pretty much guaranteed and manual WindfuryWhat do you think bro
Enhance bros how do we cope with the biggest nerf in tworlo history?
>>587710167just crafted..
>>587708560many people cannot into math. it's simple. there are three roles in this game and if you can perform more than one of these roles you are a hybrid. brownies will disagree but who can slap on a shield, jump into defensive stance, demo shout, and shield wall mid combat? who can swap from dps to tank mid fight when the MT dies? who has a viable tank spec period among the pure dps classes? sure ain't hunters, warlocks, mages, or rogues.that being said i wouldn't be against these classes gaining a similar amount of utility. rogues and warlocks being able to tank the occasional boss is cool shit.
>>587709598ok, dear. thank you. you might be right. pve warrior doing bgs is how i played wow during tbc and wotlk anyway only difference is now im a girl!!!
>>587710167it's not fun
>>587710102>>587710167You didn't refute his point AT ALL lol?
>>587709625You can't boost in dungeons thoughever, you get no exp, there's no boosting argument
>>587710167how is sitting in a city afk crafting fun?
>claims there’s a healer shortage >but would never ever level as a healer Why is the WoW community like this? You all shit on healers when they’re not perfect but then whine and bitch when there are no healers for your dungeon
>>587710303>>587710281>>587710263>you gotta rush dude>don't use professions duderetoilets begone
>>587709625it's the same thing as being pro circumcision or pro taking the bus. the only people in support of it are the ones that can't do the opposite.
>>587710330Priest is fucking boring, there's too many druid and shaman's class fantasy is fucking gay.
>>587710330Even if you do, you can't offset needing 3 dps per tank and healer
>>587709948Retail ahh weapon
Priest or druid for healing?
>Orc says thisIs Hyjal in some time chamber or what?
Do i skip my workout and level my Pally
>>587709392>>587709547Can't tell if "baiting" or genuinely retarded NPCs, you sound like retardditors that have never made it past lvl 20 in their lives lol
>>587708914Most of your damage as Prot Pally is going to be spell damage through Holy Shield/Conc/Holy Strike, so boosting spell power boosts all of those. You're not going to want to sacrifice defenses to do something dumb like wearing caster cloth pieces, but spell power is probably your #2 stat behind stamina.
>friend made 500g just AOE farming shit with mage on booty bay>i can pull one (TWO with combat flurry) on rogueI hope opening lockboxes is good...
>PvP realms are already dyingLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>He fell for the PvP meme AGAIN
dont get me wrong, im a big fan of leveling myself too. not exactly the biggest fan of raiding but raiding still is the major, if not the main point of forever. some dad gamers thought that the game would be massively different for some reason and there were a few meltdowns recently because they've come to this realizationalso some guy got harassed for posting that melee mage sword or something because it was "spoilers", like what the fuck?>>587710065obviously nostalgia is the major point of this release, mixed with plenty of changes thoughthe problem is these dad gamers who thought that this would be some brand new thing that will totally be different, i just want to see them harassed>>587710102>>587710353why immediately deflect the conversation to be about rushing? like what the flying fuck? and besides if he wants to rush that is a valid playstyle(just as your fucking retarded "le journey" thing is) considering raids are the major point of this game and some people want to be geared as fuck and parse, not a big fan of that myself either dont get me wrong why do you imbeciles constantly pride yourself on how shit and slow you are? why do you constantly harass everyone who is slightly faster than you even?
I think they should nerf dungeon xp and nerf quest xp too so that I can play a hunter and pull for an eq-style grinding group.
>>587710330retail disc solves this (for priest).people are naturally selfish. blizzard should just accept it and design at least one spec for heal/support classes around the player's selfish desires benefitting the group.
>>587710420Claude made a mistake when writing the dialogue. They forgot to include the make it good prompt.
>>587710471Nobody asked
uh oh tranny melty
>>587710353>nuh uh... retoilet???Rent Free + still didn't refute anythingIt's so easy lol
Can't decide between priest, warlock and shaman. Any ideas?
>>587707569Think the alliance equivalent is literally just a "kill that guy to get the key" then an escort quest followup for blues.
>>587710259I'm not your dear and you aren't a girl my man
>>587710420>big shock>anyway, go pi ck up some herbs for me, will ya?
>>587710471someones mad lol
>>587710436rogues are canonically weak. they shouldn't be good at anything except stealing or whatever.
>claiming pvp servers are dying>with no proofAh wow schizos are taking a page out of the xivg schizos book I see
>>587710608Alliance specifically is dying. Horde are having a blast!
Big day for dots, he hit his attention quota with only 2 posts.
>>587710608the proof is playing 30+ alli on pvp and only seeing green tyrones
>>587703705drow lore doesn't even make sense and they should have never been anything more than backwards backstabbing retards incapable of building a civilization
>lfg is still locked behind your layer Fuck off
>>587710393Attack power isn't even a thing in retail
>>587710556There's not that many cloth users. and between the 2 clothies there, priest is fucking mind numbingly boring and feels shit to adventure with, only any fun in dungeons.
>>587710471There seems to be a number of people coming back who genuinely believe wow forever will be some completely new mmo experience that has never existed before. Bro, it will just be wow again.
ZG should have been available at launch.
I can't believe they nerfed enh shaman. Now I'm only dealing double the dps of everyone else instead of triple.
>>587710806Doomers like you have already gotten blown the fuck out btw
>lvl 20>1g 5sat least i got flash of light and consecration..
ganking one of you fags so hard you develop schizophrenia is my new life goal
>>587710471lil anime is speakinglisten and learn
>>587710608i already quit on tuesday like i said i would if they didn't fix it. it's still not fixed. they're never going to fix it. dead game.
>>587710839Flash of Poop
post your skelfs
sylvanas spoken AI voice is weird
Why does no one accept invites in this shit game
>>587710831kek
i have HD characters onwhy is this in my game
Just started Riverglades and I felt physically ill. This is a fucking retail zone.
>>587710420it's impossible and bad writing to be that ignorant of the world for 4 whole years in wow. but irl like half of america is capable of that.
>>587711048What makes it retail?
>>587710979EU moment
>>587710471>but raiding still is the major, if not the main point of forever.why can't they just focus on making the mmo world alive tho, like profession expansions and more stuff like the darkmoon faire idk
>>587710946i already did earlier
>>587711048What makes it a retail zone specifically?
are there any alliance pvp streamers that have rerolled yet? just wondering because it seems like blizzard only fixes problems when streamers start becoming inconvenienced
>>587701793Try playing forsaken and tell me they don’t need total extermination. >Remember Hillsbrad!
>day 5 of having autohotkey spam create a tauren on the EU PvP servertoday will be the day
>>587710303>how is crafting gear and seeing another player wearing <Crafted by (You)> on something you made fun? How is having >50% of your gear with your name on it fun?You wouldn't get it.
>>587710979I play while lifting in between sets so every 3-4 minutes I have to afk and I don't want to do that to you sry
>>587711031Love at first sight
>>587710948>spoken AI voicewhat dis
>>587711031she got them frieza DSLs
>>587711160Nigga it's currently off, not "auto balancing". As in, there are no new ones being made until further notice.
Stop rushing questsStart leveling your professions INCLUDING fishing
>>587711167https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/spoken-player
>>587711048if the retail models bother you that much just put in a ticket for a refund right now. you're not even gonna make it to 45.
>>587710806yep its basically just good old wow, not saying that is a bad thing im a fan of it actually but some dads genuinely thought that this will be their time to shine while those dumb sweats will get btfo>>587710838unironically what is your problem? why is he considered to be this "doomer" thing? i dont get it, just because its not a post that is immediately fellating the game its automatically a "doomer" like the fuck?>>587711086they certainly can focus on making new thing that arent raiding but most of us sane people have realized that everything points to raiding once again unfortunately
>>587711160you are completely wasting your time
>>587710756>There's not that many cloth usersImplying?>priest is fucking mind numbingly boring and feels shit to adventure withIm what way is it more boring than any other class?
>>587711314>>587710471
based animeposter
>there are actually people RIGHT NOW, possibly even ITT, that subbed around launch and have done nothing but wait for horde pvp to open up and maybe mess around for a bit on another character they don't actually want to play
>they need to make the mmo world feel aliveNoticing that in every mmo general I’m in that says conveniently never has any good ideas for making the mmo world feel alive that isn’t just FOMO daily or weekly shit
>>587709262casters are the new warrior
>>587711150Streamers don't have the same pains as normal players. They always have other streamer buttbuddies to quest with and can have viewers give them gold so they never have to farm in the open world. Being on the losing faction isn't even noticable to them.
>>587711286neato!
>>587711160I have a tauren on EU PvP. I will not delete it.
>>587701470Unironically on the PVE server
>>587711524delete this
>>587711393bitch i literally gave you examples, they have done fuck all with professions since vanilla haven't they? add some fucking new ones, add new content for herbalism/mining/skinning in the open world, fucking group herbalism/mining nodes just steal it from runescape people can ask mining levels it'll be great, add seasonal content in the sense of like halloween events that give decent xp for people to come in and do that involve like interacting with other players somehow idksteal that fucking boat from xiv where people get on a boat together and just fish
Did you make the ally na pvp guild yet nonny
do not talk to him you wont accomplish anything
>>587711435They even have preferential layer treatment, the ones that Aggrend likes do at least. Go watch a streamer enter a grind spot and it's emty and when you visited the same area there were 20 guys competing for mob spawns.
>>587711618oh my bad bwo
Why is it always some anime posting autist that has a gigantic crashout
Why are these mobs RPing with me?
>>587701470pve horde
i still remember the wholesome chungus dads journey goers back in 2019 talking the same points just to turn the game into a gold buying/boosting fest
>>587711524Same, mine is still level 1. Hbu?
>>587711705Too much flavor. Remove this immediately.
do i have to collect these an all characters?is this for the sleeping bag?can i do this just on one character?
>>587711564>add some fucking new ones,Like what?>add new content for herbalism/mining/skinning in the open world,Like what exactly?>add seasonal content in the sense of like halloween events that give decent xp for people to come in and do that involve like interacting with other players somehow idkThis is just FOMO stuff>steal that fucking boat from xiv where people get on a boat together and just fishOcean Fishing the thing people in xiv rarely do?
>>587711417I look like this.
>>587711314>doomerI also dont understand this word and its meaning anymore, I see lots of criticism be dismissed with this word
>>587711747they never learn, always the same retards regurgitating the same exact nonsense ad nauseamMUH WORLD MUH COMFY JOURNEY GO BACK TO RETOILET *buys gold after spamming dungeons for 60 levels and only logs back in to raid*
>>587711705If you kill them without RPing back how you are breaking their body you get banned on RP ruleset.
>pvp realm has so many players that you can't make a new horde.>in a months time there won't be a single player that started after day 1. no matter how overpopulated the server is this is fatal for trying to do pve. it's crazy that blizzard doesn't remember servers and guilds actually dying due to character creation lock. they only remember the millions they made off server transfers without remembering why it happened.
>play warudo farudo>have fun>enter the thread>IT'S OVER HUMANITY IS DEAD
>>587711564>add seasonal content in the sense of like halloween eventsWoW has always had seasonal events.
>>587711705This is cringe af, just die already lil bro. Don’t need the whole cringe ahh RP speech.
>>587711316Implying it will be easier to get gear as a cloth user.And holy shit priest is boring, i leveled one on nost and it was the most miserable experience ever.No mobility, being forced to wand constantly, feels weak as fuck. As soon as I got to 60 I just raidlogged with it because going out into the world felt like shit as a priest. Huge regret.
>>587711974Use the thread for questions and shitpostingDont take anything here seriously especially not the criticism
>>587711809yes no no
>>587711386What makes hordefags so obsessively loyal?
>>587711907>go back to retoiletthis is a valid thing to say considering that lots of discourse and harassment campaigns have been linked to retoiletsretoilets need to know that they are a target now and i dont mind calling them outthey can try retaliating all they want though
>DPS shitters hate playing the game so much they can’t even complete one long as fuck dungeon (drowned city) This is definitely the hardest dungeon. Theres too many shitters queuing up like half the groups are advertising 2 bosses down. Shitters can’t handle the skips and they wipe their group and it’s a long as fuck run back.
Someone Rogue in Ashenvale tried to groom me into ganking an alliance that was solo questing.PvP’ers are groomers.
>>587712046thank yougod damnit
>>587711809You get a mediocre green neck at 10 books, a mediocre blue ring at 20 books, and a bow or gun at 30 books.
>>587711974there's idiots having fun on era and anniversary too. i don't know why you think a personal annecdote is relevant.
>>587712050They can't bring themselves to play as the evil chud alliance
>only level 44>all of the zones are empty nowI'm way behind aren't I?
>>587712102so a hunter thing to pass timegotcha
>>587711972Go to the Alliance, then. Hordekeks want all advantages in the world without drawbacks
>>587711564>what content should they add>UHH THEY SHOULD ADD CONTENT FOR LIKE… PROFESSIONS N SHIET AND ALSO *thing that already exists*fucking retard
>>587711564Even if they added everything you dream off you would still just fuck off once evercold launches.
>>587712127Everyone’s 30 fuck head
>>587712059doing skips with pugs is just retarded
>>587711974There are people having fun eating poop. Does that mean eating poop isn’t objectively bad?
>>587712127the average player is like level 25, the first wave of poopsockers passed
Well, just to give my 2 sense. I think alliance needs Monk. Not a, The
>>587712059I've had dps retards hopping around and body pulling skipped packs on both the runs I did to drowned city. They also don't seem to understand they can interrupt the fear casts even after being told multiple times to do so.
>hear about ret being busted>try one out>macro judgement and holy strike together>get some random ass green weapon>oneshot to almost oneshot ever mob 3 levels above meLmao this is hilarious
>>587712059Skips are cringe.
>>587712127you are way ahead of everyone, retard
>>587712157pvp doesn't have faction change i believe. this is a long term problem that won't manifest until december. and by then it'll be too late.
Say it with meHorizontal progression not vertical progressionMore like OSRS and GW2 and less like Pootail
>he thinks forever means forever
>>587712219>>587712115you sound upset
>>587711974Youre quite literally playing the game wrong. People who play just to level have always dropped the game after several months due to boredom. If you arnt lvl 60 grinding your preraid BIS you literally are doing it wrong.
>>587711831>Like what?anything idk fucking woodcutting and dancing maybe, not sure about crafting ones>Like what exactly?i said one, group nodes that people can do TOGETHER instead of competing for that last a few minutes from when someone gets to it or something, make them also spawn a neutral elite mob for a minute after so if everyone there wants to kill it for some cool extra herbs or whatever they can maybe something dumb>This is just FOMO stuffno i mean like the events would return each year, not like you have to be there each year or miss out, maybe like rewards the first time you do it but basic stuff like a pet maybe some recipe idk, but you can still do the quests each year again>Ocean Fishing the thing people in xiv rarely do?well they're gay>>587711978add more, like professions just flesh it out more>>587712167maybe they should try it ONCE>>587712180i have 0 interest in that, i'm just enjoying my forever experience currently
>>587711110Your skelf does NOT look like this
>>587712325OSRS has vertical progression though what are you talking about
>>587710471>>587711314I agree with you, nonny. The only way Forever wont just become retail again is if they had completely reworked how the game worked, which they didnt. The only way WoW can create an open world that feels alive and players interacting with it is massive battles over towns and resources and there is absolutely no sign of it in the horizon. Forever will inevitably become another raid logging game.
>>587712127Dad gamers didn't like this post.
>>587711160Brown no skill overpopper lole
>>587710608A couple alliance ran into barrens feeder zones and got 10v1ed, the sky is falling and alliance need infinite buffs and horde need kneecapped by queues or it's joever!
>>587712414>that feels alivewhats up with you retards wanting a world to feel alive? theres 400+ people running around cities and areas are packed play a singleplayer game if you want an alive world
Who else /quitting/?We said they would fuck it up and they have.
wow players really are and have always been the biggest faggots. i wish you people would fuck off and die already so mmos can be good again
>>587712325except don't take the everyone does everything thing osrs and xiv have, i hate that
>>587711974>>587712020majority of people are having fun though and are discussing various elements of the game, some are happy with some things some are not. that is to be expectedits just that there are imbeciles like you who perceive every discourse or "criticism" as this attack on the game and immediately retaliate calling them "doomers" and what not>>587712414thats pretty much it, everything is basically pointing to it. some dads still havent realized though but they will.>>587712481this is literally what dad gamers want
>>587712481>whats up with you retards wanting a world to feel alive?Because thats what Blizzard themselves said they were trying to go for?
>>587710979Alliance are untrusting solo Andys. Horde are blast-havers that will happily group together.
>>587712374You forgot your animegirl image with million dots.
>>587712414why do retards think retail is a raidlogging gameit’s purely a classic only issue
>>587712491Trade chat for me is a bunch of zoomers ejaculating all over Asmongold it's pathetic.And they come up with the most neurotic insane arguments as rebuttals to being told they're retarded. People under 30 years old are just FUCKED.
>>587711809I don't know what this dogshit even is I have like 6 books on each char
>lv33At this point i must be extremely behind the curveMaybe i january i will manage to find a guild too for raiding with the other rejects who didn't get a guild already or fallen behind the pack like me
>>587712481>play a singleplayer game if you want an alive worldwhat the FUCK
>>587712561i never played classic before so im literally having a blast we'll see what happens
>>587710979on principle i decline random invites, unless there's a good reason like we're both in the middle of fightingyou should say hi first and state your intentions otherwise I'm not sure if I can trust you
Hehe, glad I could help
undead warlock > everything else
>>587712618seethe tranny
>>587705037People just miss the cool femdranei model. Give it to playable female satyrs or whatever and nobody will care anoumore about them
>>587712325slapped together dungeon gear already destroys the hardest bosses in seconds.
>>587712070Rogues are naturally brown coded, it stands to reason they act like animals.
>anons are now accused of being the retarded vtuber faglol
>>587712695>If I don't want to hear about some cringe unemployed dipshit who does nothing but sit in front of a computer in a pile of shit and say the most inane things ever I'm a trannyWhy have you latched onto that man as some kind of cultural figure? It's bizarre. You're so fucking done I hope they ship you to Iran
>>587712618Zoomers hate Asmon, it’s just boomer uncs who watch him.
https://x.com/N_Tys26/status/2121094845632835999>outnumbers other faction 7 to 1>heh im so fricking bad*ss
Sisters, I haven't played in 2 days and I'm only level 46. Is it over for me?
>>587712683every race/class combo shown in the cinematic is canon.
>>587703627The mental gymnastics that "some people" will go through to justify their own shortcomings never ceases to amaze me.
>>587712703i feel like that has to be guaranteed, like first race is reskinned belfs, second race has to be reskinned draenei, reskinned kultiran ogres later maybe, idk i don't see an actual goblin reskin but i do want gilgoblins, maybe a free neutral goblin addition at some point
>>587712778libtard mad because no one cares about xer feelings in worlo KEEEK
If you aren't now minimum level 50 you are permanently behind. No group will take you. Crafting is saturated. You will always be playing catchup. It's over.
>>587712790this guy was always a fucking pussy
>>587712790>roll on pvp>get ganked>cry about it on 4chan
>>587712790>not alliance>ganking lowbieswhat happened to mccool bro?
>>587705459Ok now turn the quests in
just watched the podcast, the lore guy seemed really cringe. had black painted fingernails too
"Horizontal progression" is about as meaningful as the phrase "still-motion treadmill"
>>587712325The only game WoW needs to take inspiration from is EVE and maybe TERA. OSRS is a profession/skill focused game, which WoW isnt. GW2 is a gay faggot story simulator, which WoW is but we dont talk about that. WoW is a combat game, EVE is also a combat game that has retained a dedicated playerbase while never having to actually do anything because the players shape the world.
>WE WANT CLASSIC+ TO BE LIKE VANILLA!!!>"Ok, gear you get from the future raids is better than gear you get from current raids, like it was in vanilla.">NNNNNYYYOOOOOO!!!! THAT'S RETAIL!!!!!!!! RETAIL RETAIL RETAIL!!!!!
Good to know that even the mmorpg players that claim to love the open world don’t even know what they love about it and don’t have a fucking clue on how to get more people out in it
Why does Thousand needles only have 6 quests? wtf?
is it wise to farm copper ore?
>>587712781i watch asmond everydayt. older 28 zoomer
>>587712790how do people like this have an audience?
>>587704035The only downside is feral spends 100% of their time never changing their look so transmogs or gear changes feel less interesting.
>>587712832>If I don't like this streamer I am a libtardWhy do you consider this random turd to be some kind of figure for your retarded online politics?I've been on /pol/ since the day it was made. I remember the actual day. And you're telling ME... I'm a "libtard"... you fucking people need to be sent to Iran you are too spoiled to be let free God needs to flood it again I don't care what He said the last time
>>587712802If you’re not in pre raid BIS by Thanksgiving you should kill yourself.
>>587712848All those moments that could have been, disappearing like tears in the rain... time to die...
>>587712901I didn’t roll on pvp because I’m not retarded but it’s fun watching the ruleset fall apart in real time
>>587712989maybe log off unc we own the servers now and asmongold is our leader sucks to suck
>>587712936another retoilet comes crawling outcome on, try retaliating. just try it
>wake up>jeeted MS360 CoGoyed still down>uhhh sorry guys I cant connect to anything Its time to fucking game all day
>>587713024>fall apart>numbers for pvp are still higher than pve
>>587712936blizzard are the only ones who said it was going to be horizontal
RARE SCANNER INSTALED
>>587712989shut up millennial no one cares if you were there on day 1 of /pol/ because you generation never fucking did anything but cry about star wars
>>587713063Gear from Molten Core is outclassed by gear from Naxxramas.
>>587712962>28Brother, not a single dog alive when you were born is alive right now, you're old as fuck. You have had entire generations of several species grow up and die in the amount of time you have lived.
>>587713063you’re a schizo retard but I like your cute anime girlst.retailBULL
>tfw regret subbing as it's same shit with different coat of polish>overweight multicolored haired women vibe coded this shit and we paid for itbros i don't have it in me to keep doing this
How is player retention and pop on ally RP pvp now that free week dudes are vanishing? RP pve feels like it lost no one so far>originally aimed for ally rppvp, friend who gave me code already made characters on RP but agreed to move if I started there>couldn't fucking even get into the character creation for rppvp server an hour into the launch day, 'not found'>just go RP server anyways then so I can start playing immediately>don't care about RP much, but seeing others attempt it helps with immersion>funI think I got lucky with the shard layer I'm stuck at, because I'm still seeing packs of dudes questing, competing for mobs, and inviting me to groups. General chat for random zones is a bit noisy.Kinda wanna stab hordies still
>>587713074I wfh in IT and ive been playing nonstop lmao
I miss SoD...
Wait that means 2019 classic era was actually retail because Naxx gear was better than every other raids gear before it.
>>587712127If you don't hurry up you're not going to have anyone to party with to farm your pre-raid bis. Everyone is already gearing up for raids.
>>587713140Back to midnight so you can fap to your furry races
>>587712790McConnell and Asmon broke up?
>>587713172Human HD models look like this
Why does nobody reply to me but everybody replies to the schizo /vt/ retard?
uhh since when do i have a keyring
>>587713128>you're old as fuck.never said i wasn't retard, the fact is though that the generation divide was for people who did and didn't grow up in the 90s, and i didn't, i was on a console/pc since i could walk and look at me nowdefinitely not a boomer at least
>>587710420He literally explains it>we've been trapped hereWhy haven't wyerns or zeppelins come to help?I dunno Hyjal is too high up for them to go there I assume
>>587713237since you made a character in forever
>>587713219McConnel never stopped playing retail.
>>587713237they forgot it in their design docs for the ui but it has always existed in secret
>>587713237>have key ring >doesn’t hold skeleton keys from BS’ingSo much shit blizzard needs to fix but instead we get some gay ass question weekly quest that gives 100g wtf
>>587713074damn hes fucking cool
>>587713237Key ring has almost always been a thing, I think it was added in one of the later vanilla patches, it's just rarely actually used.
>>587713237it's for alliance players' cages
>retoilet shitter tourists already getting filtered
>>587712929>WoW is a combat gamehttps://www.wowhead.com/guide/ui/combat-assistant-one-button-rotation-tool-setup>GW2 is a gay faggot story simulatoreven the most diehard gw2 supporters will disagree. it's a "autistically minmax your build and grind target dummy parses to the point where the difference between the top parses for a given spec are down to rng, the most minute stat differences possible, and engineering the rotation so you end on your burst to inflate the final parse number". this is no secret or thread agenda, these people literally control the balance for the entire game.
>>587713237umm, it's for your cage sis?
>>587713236she knows how to make people seethe + is very confrontive
why are alliance such fucking pansy soft pussy bitches alliance always displayed beyond faggot behavior
>>587713185>an old retail version is retail Yes
See this little cube? It's a trigger item for the quest that you should use. You have to zoom in all the way to click on it.
>>587713301>>587713305>>587713337>>587713347>>587713364>>587713387i swear i did not have anything in that slot since a couple minutes ago
>>587713337The weekly is the most braindead thing to add. So much more gold is going to passively flood into the game now when everyone is actually just sitting at 60 or has several 60s to do it on weekly.
Ah finally weekend started.Time to no life wow and have a blast.
Seals should last 10 minutes
>>587713373the funniest thing is all these meltdowns that started popping up like>"so uhhh im level 35 when does this spec get better or more buttons?"saw it on various communities already including here i just call them out as retoilets and they move on or come crawling out
>>587713403Sorry tyrone, I already rerolled to PvE. Have fun finding low level alliance to rape in raid groups :)
>hordies are getting uppity again
>>587713382How autistic are you? Just because WoW combat is easy doesnt mean the game isnt a combat focused game. Take away combat from WoW and what do you have? Take away combat from OSRS and you can still play a majority of the game.
>>587705814>pic rel>Harboring no true loyalty for their new allies, they will go to any lengths to ensure the dark plans come to fruition.So the Undercity is Tel Aviv.
>Turns out the only reason people bitch so much about dungeon exp is because they want a leveling avenue free of pvp>despite rolling on the pvp server>runner up is the chink mage farms, but it's mostly people bloating the pvp server who plan to never pvpshould have knownThey should have just removed exp from dungeons entirely.
Guys I am getting too optimistic and hopeful about forever. Now I fear I will be let down
>>587713461This is how it looks normally
Just mined my 50th arcane crystals in hyjal, behinders are gonna be paying 200% fees when it gets nerfed
>>587713602This is why I hate pvp and I think it's a mistake to have it in game. It's a minigame no one cares about, not even the people who say they do, and yet it hurts everyone else.
>>587713658>the NEET
>>587713598now i feel better about going alliance
>>587713142>feels likeThe shards are auto balanced. You will never be able to tell how populated a sever is without giving real numbers from a website. In game you will almost always see other people.
>>587713602as someone who is neutral on the dungeon xp nerf thing do not bring up rulesets into thisthis is an issue and discourse that transcends the rulesets
>>587713595just making a point. sure what you say is true but it isn't a combat game where your skill is in any way respected. it's a combat game in the same vein that mario kart is a racing game or smash bros is a fighting game.
>>587713564>heh… silly RETOILETS expecting gameplay other than autoattacking
I just don’t enjoy PVP so I’m not on the PVP server, I’m sorry I know I’m awful but I just don’t like it.
>>587713128>1 year old>countless generations of single cell organisms have been created, reproduced and died since you have been born>you're already an old asf unc
>>587713670I took a week off from work, I'm back today and napping
also i realized looking at my previous allies list it had people listed as whispered, idk if it only counts YOU whispering or what but maybe if you want to stalk someone you just have to whisper them first and it'll start layering you together
>>587713658are you on a dead server anon? every hyjal shard has 20-30 miners and 50 herbers
i love that the universal sign of acknowledgement is jumping 3 times
So when does paladin tanking get good?
>>587713739didnt you know? forever is all about the "journey" and "immersion"that being said retoilets always have their slop to return to where they can press fifty different buttons and have procs flying out everywhere or somethingjust dont be surprised if you get harassed around here
>>587713735>it's a combat game in the same vein that mario kart is a racing game or smash bros is a fighting game.I mean, WoW was the Mario Kart/Smash Bros of the MMO genre before it made a gazillion dollars and everyone started copying it.
Undead Spoken Voices are a bit queit
>>587713739i heard runescape had an evolution of combat just for you bwo
>>587713853
>>587713853when you get concthen you can just tank everything with 1 button
>>587713676So people claiming shit is empty are just liars or are the most anti-social then huhI think it may feel super packed and populated for me because I'm riding the initial leveling wave
>>587713928Did I earn a fell for it again award?
>horde duo of disc priest and protection warrior questing permanently together, as slowly as imaginable, just so they can never not have an edge in pvp>will attack all alliance on sightencountered this 3 times so farthat is its own brand of pathetic
>>587713904>heh, I autistically play a game wrong as if im an 8 year old child, checkmate retoilet
>>587713904so why does 99% of forever discussion revolve around class balance?
>>587713461Yeah I'm glad someone on Wowhead had figured it out. I was running around the mountain trying to figure out how to reach the quest complete, really annoying Though the worst quest bug by far right now is the tent burning quest in WPL being bugged and gatekeeping all quests in the zone
>>>he falleded for it
>>587713997You earned that by playing Forever in the first place
>>587713739Auto attacking as the primary source of damage is a good thing. If you can parse a 50 with just auto attack then you can at the very least provide some value. If they make the rotations complex then all the retail trannies will need an auto rotation button to play otherwise they'll be parsing extremely low.
>>587714009how the fuck do you die to a prot warrior and or a disc priest
>>587714020trannys are very very afraid of warriors hitting sss god tier rank 1 again
>>587713602>>Turns out the only reason people bitch so much about dungeon exp is because they want a leveling avenue free of pvpI simply dont care about retreading the same quests for the 5 billionth time>"b-but you have 2 new quests in Westfall!"I'm not doing it again and I get infinitely more enjoyment out of killing stuff in a group, like how MMOs are supposed to be played.
>>587710251>>587708560its just a different way of looking at class design, its not about balance or the definition of hybrid. warrior has only combat abilities, all the warrior can do is combat, no other class has purely combat abilities, so its natural no other class is better than him in combat. mages got portals, water, blink slowfall, etc lots of non-combat but still extremely useful abilities, warlocks has summon, healthstone, soulstone etc. hunter is maybe the next to warrior most pure but hunter excels at soloing which can be seen as a feature/ability in itself with a cost. rogue has lock pick, stealth, vanish, pick pocket, priest has cure disease, mind control, mind sooth, etc etc etcfor paladin/shaman/druid its the same idea but even more extreme, they have the widest and most flexible utility/useful non-combat abilities of all classes.in another way it also makes sense for warriors to overrepresented, if you look at it as an army, or a big group of mercenaries, it makes sense that the majority are dumb foot soldiers, warriors
>>587712781assmongler's audience is majorly euro zoomers now. they're all laughing at stupid americans instead of with him.
this is it..? it took them 2 years to make this? very undercooked and released it to hit before GTA and to boost Q4
>>587714136Fagevers arnt addressing the 66% population drop off in less than a week.
>>587714095sex
>>587714136in era all the trannies played femorc warrior doe?
Replied to the /vt/ranny avatar fag again award
Is lvl 29 high enough to tank Gnome-gay-gone?
>>587714068>>587714136whoops hit the wrong guy
Do I dualspec my arcane mage into fire or frost? I'm thinking frost would be more useful.
>>587714181Yea and it's great, get the fuck out and go play your ball and gun game
>>587714230No
surprised at how comfy it's been playing on na from eu, my tranny femboy clitty gets hard when people flirt with me, it's easy to do quests solo without worrying about there being too many people, still plenty of enough people to do the harder quests together with and dungeons as well and it feels alive plus the ping isn't that bad either
>>587714289wait how?
>>587714101>if they make the rotations complex (like retail) then the retail players won't be able to do itI don't follow
>>587714289faction and class sissy?
Have the reused ANY of the stuff from SoD?
>>587714201debunkedeveryone plays alliance in era
>>587713602See>>587706373
>>587714298How what?
>>587714348let me explain:retail LE BADvanilla LE GOODhope that helped, updoots to the left
>>587714298wdym how>>587714358alliance
>>587714397Tbui
Why the FUCK do my bars keep getting reset every fucking time I log in?!
>>587714478I'm logging in to your account when you log off and I reset them
>>587714415>>587714394dont you need an extra sub for US/EU?
>>587713602Pro dungeon nerf tyrone's can't go even 1 hour without making up scenarios in their head. Why are they so disingenuous? Everything they spout is either completely false or something they made up.
>>587710681i'm 47 and i see lots of alliesyou are simply a noob.
>>587714470my femhumie paladin can handle a lot of horde enemies at once
>>587714529>extrano because i don't pay for an eu sub
>>587714521Yeah, but I log into his account afterwards and fix them
>>587705361Kek
>>587714348Retail players that actually are good at the game are .001% of the population. These are the people that sell mythic/M+ carries and Glad carries every season. The rest of the retail playerbase are just trannymog and cheevo collectors and are fucking horrible at the game. They like having buttons to press but the reality is they have no idea when to press them. It's like watching a baby play with one of these.
>see pally with its mount out and about>/cheer>he buffs meSweet
>>587714529NA version of the game/sub yes? What's the problem.
>>587714258frostfire has the same use as arcane
>>587714572fooled no one award
>>587714069>WPL being bugged and gatekeeping all quests in the zoneDid it yesterday, worked as usual. You have to place the flag after burning tent
Why didn’t they add in level 30 class quests that reward good weapons for all classes?
>>587714574How's she looking
>tfw have dps and healers literally get down on their knees and cry tears of joy because of me as a tank line-of-sight pulling mob packsfeels bizarre to be thanked for doing something so simple, do other tanks just not fucking bother lol?
>>587714759Because this isn't FFXIV, go back
>>587714636the average retailGOD completely shits on the average classic gamerdad who hasn’t done a single raid mechanic in his life btw
>thinking that classic casuals are not substantially worse on average at the game than retail casualswhat insane cope is this. classic players shit their pants in anger when they can just spam 1 button and have the boss die in 30 seconds.
>>587714759Did they add a cat form quest at least?
>>587712952For journeybros to keep their own professions up to speed, speedrunnerfags always see it as an opportunity cost of getting to 60 faster with better gold/hour options (which can in turn buy copper ore)
>>587714829So you believe that only warriors and paladins deserve good things? The game should just be unfinished for everyone else.
>>587714114I didn't die, I ran away from them because they do so little damage.
>>587714852Retail players aren't doing the mechanics either. They're playing someone else to carry them while they press their auto rotation button.
>>587714880Yeah.
>>587713832You join the hidden Brazil layer and get your own shard to yourself
>>587714478if you got dual spec it will happen everytime until blizzard fixes it (never)
>>587714880Yes
>>587714801A lot of people who are either new or have not played in 15+ years. Some very questionable play from the randos in pugs so far.
bake new one, lazy niggers
>>587713658Theres a vendor with an unlimited supply of arcane crystals at 50g each. the price for them is gonna be capped.
>>587714801You'd be surprised, wotlk and beyond difficulty 5 mans really cooked people's brains into thinking charge in and fight on spawn / cluster multiple groups is the only way to 5 man.
So lore wise what zone could they add to mainland Azeroth aka NOT Northrend that would potentially have snow?
>>587714969I’m sure you saw that a lot in the heroic dungeons you did 15 years ago
>>587715039>posts a thread complaining>didn't do it himselfLook in the mirror tranny
>>58771507430-40g per is still going to net a nice price, currently using them for transmuting once I get my alt set up
What is the fastest way to lvl my friend who is lvl 20 and getting left behind? Everyone else is around lvl 30 right now and my friend is the healer for our group and i hate dealing with randos, got some random pally that i think was only healing me with rank 1 flash heal in the stockades and forced my friend playing feral druid to heal because he was ass, wiped twice due to that retard, he's a priest if that matters
>>587715112Northland
>>587715030>>587715103man that makes me feel bad for people that have to deal with random tanks lmao, i'm not even a good m+ grinder either but the stuff i do is such basic bitch tank necessities i'm just amazed random tanks don't do it
>>587715112The area north of Stormwind that turtle used could possibly be like half snowy mountain range due to its proximity to Dun Morogh.
>>587715148Pay a Chinese guy to level his character
>>587714478thanks for beta testing faggot
>>587714875Classictrannies actually think that there's depth in their game when all it is is just memorization of macro things like character progression paths, which is just solved with guidesWhen it comes to actual gameplay and combat retail sweeps the floor with classic and so do its players
>>587713078me when I lie
>>587714801The worst is when you los and some ranged dps starts dueling a pack full of casters by standing past the corner and casting and then blames tank.
I am going home from work soon and my plan today is levelling Leatherworking to ~150 and some Fishing maybeI can't make myself progress until i know i am leaving medium leather behind
>>587715148Grind appropriate-level mobs with him. You should slaughter level 20's at 30 in seconds.Make sure he has the 5% xp food buff
>>587712790deserved to fall into obscurity while asmond made it if this is how he plays
>>587707871>pic relThey filter themselves.
>seal judgement and holy strike in one macro
>>587715258my geiger counter went off, must be a TRVKE
>>587714801What? Every time I LoS pull in a dungeon the dps start attacking before the enemies even make it to the corner. Dps players are the reason dungeons can't have any sort of positioning or cc requirements.
>>587715193They tried to bring hard 5 mans back in cata launch and the retail Andys complained so much they had to backpedal immediately.
Rppvp wonPvp lostHorde lost
>>587715320 Is there a particularly good hyperspawn to go for this or something? Im alliance PvE and is questing faster or just blowing up mobs and does the "no xp" thing only apply to dungeons?
>>587715282I wonder how big the pvp numbers would be if hordesissies didn't get locked in the cuck cage
>>587715460>>587715460>>587715460>>587715460
>>587714114Prots rape anybody who has to hit them to do damage, so half the classes.
>>587715320Is there an xp penalty for out of sync groups in the world? I'm in the left behind position because my friends are all work from types and they reckon there is but I think they're just trying to drop me instead of grinding elites.
>>587715407Jamal Washington of Stormwind vs Green Tyroe of Orgrimmar, who wins
>>587715452Level 20 has a lot of gnolls and orcs in redridge. North west section of the map.
>>587715193The damage that Wrath and M+ has done to the dungeon community cannot be understated. There's basically two ways they've been trained to play:>rush in, aggro everything, AOE it down without effort. The healer doesn't even touch his buttons, the tank is supposed to self-heal 100% of the time>run in, aggro everything, but kite it the entire time because if a single mob hits the tank he explodes because it's M20 or some shit. Only classes with AOE CC are viable, anything else is a piece of shit that you never invite.
>>587713237The slot was there, without the icon, the moment you made your character.When you got your first key the icon spawned in that spot, probably from the sewer key to Dalaran or the Workshop Key from gnomer.
>>587714521>we're in your accounts, sharding your purples
>>587713214I'm playing Monsters and Memories, no fapping, but i think the fact you need a group to get exp at all is the best thing since sliced bread and should be aggressively implemented into every mmo so people actually make parties to do things instead of inviting 5 ghosts in your peripheral vision to kill 20 hillsbrad whites before dropping pt without a word said
>>587708560If anything I feel like the damage shouldn’t be very high, aren’t we tanks after all? If anything, any further changes should be added damage mitigation, not dps increases
>this comes running at you with full plainsrunningwhat do you do
