Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9735 - Blood Moon Edition==NEWS==>Discord server launched 5 October 2026discord.gg/SonicOfficial>SONIC PICO PARK released 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond published 12 November 2026https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yocC5AIQ5M>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #5 - 16 December 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #19 - December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>587728515
There is nothing that can stop me from being obsessed with and loving Sonic
>>587770094So you agree Shadow is a tragic character too?
*headpats your OC*
Mobians
Love Tails!
>>587770821Yay!
>>587770650
>>587770790.My OC hates headpats
>>587770785Yes.I actually wouldn't call silver truly tragic because he would get a good future, reunite with blaze and is generally a more optimistic character who can look forward. with shadow, the tragedy is the point where he can never truly gain what is lost, but walk anyway.
Sage is Rouge height.
cnc
Slowly realizing some of the insane crap arguments are about Archie headcanons
Sonic
>>587770942So dick sucking height
>>587771101It takes (at least) two to argue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK5zABO1dyM
Dragofag is weirdly quiet these weeksmaybe he's practicing nnn
here's the silver thread someone was asking for earlier, happy birthday to the futures sissy>>>/trash/86516639
Douge.
>>587770919I'm sorry...>>587771259but I just made the OP>practicing nnnI failed day one
Imagine if your toaster criticized your taste in music then went "uhh but i dont have ears"?
Goognight friends...
>>587771170I didn't know Tails got Trip treatment
>>587771425oyasumi
>>587771425Goodnight fren
>>587770939>can get a good future>future is always ruined and in need of saving>glossing over the fact that he was raised in a apocalyptic wasteland instead of a loving family in the arc>Shadow only lost a friend, the sociopath hedgehog only cared about one persontypical Shadowfag
>>587770942Blobian heights are ridiculous and dumb.
>>587771401why's the shadow chao treated as the bad oneexplain it
>>587771368Not them but I scribbles was based for drawing that.
I'm practicing NNN. Aren't I SPECIAL!? kill me
>>587771275Cute N Canon!
Silver
uuu it happened again uuu
>>587771649I specifically nutted at 12 am on the first so I wouldn't have to worry about participating.
>>587771649how is there practice required for nonstop nut november?
>>587771824Apparently you can still participate if you do the hispanic version which starts Nov.3rd instead of 1st on account of day of the dead following Halloween
>>587771587I love his work, Drago made into two of his old comics!>>587771425goodnight
>>587771549No they aren't, it's literally how they are designed. This chibi rubberhose mascots are all 2 feet shorter than a regular human. Sonic is 3' 3", and that translates into about 5' 3" if he were human. But he's not human. He's a toon. A rubberhose cartoon hedgehog. Thus, he is 3' 3".Mario is also about 3' 1" in terms of how he's actually designed. But in his case, the art style -isn't- literal (somehow).
>>587771368>I failed day oneif it was from cumming inside your cat boyfriend, i cant blame yo
>>587772048>"I might be evil but I'm not a sick fuck."On one hand he dumped a guy trying to get into 16 year old girl's pants. On other hand he entered into a gay relationship with a would be murderer and domestic abuser.>Both of Hershey's ex-boyfriends betrayed her and their kingdoms.Also >"I'm ok with gays, my dad was gay.">Killed his dad
Shadow
>>587771801Boobs not big enough, worthless transformation
>>587771398Mina did nothing wrong.
Its a hot lazy and cozy Friday night, sonic girls for this nice feel?
>>587769891Beyond radicool, even.>>587770463As a matter of fact, tubular'ly bodacious. This is a good panel but I get goosebumps just with immersing on and navigating through the characters off 125# cover. I get a big stupid smile.https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/b/b6/ArchieSonic125CoverRaw.jpeg/revision/latest/?format=originalSoft-boot Archie did a cover like that too but I can't recall if from whence cover it came from.
>>587772938FWA Mina stuff was so funny
Mina molested me, Nicole would never...
>>587773397Didn't Tails hack Nicole once
>>587772938
Ian Flynn remaking SA2>Knuckles "Give me back the Master Emerald before I rough you up!">Rouge "Oh yeah? Because you're Rougher than the rest of them? The best of them? Tougher than leather?">Knuckles "Grrrrrrr...."
Amy
I'm quite happy with my new coffee machine
>>587772926An unemployed person made this
You'd never see Mario making that sappy gay face Sonic made to Shadow btw
>>587769157Sage and Tails is a funny idea because I can see Sage latching onto the traits that Tails has in common with Eggman and Tails being disgusted by the realization that they have such blatant similarities.
Metal
>>587771170
Thank you Sonic comics for ruining the franchise with uwu feelings shit
>>587763585Lore team is nothing compared to Hit Detection. Hit Detection is worse and more harmful to Sonic games
>>587774237You mean Ian and his seething hatred towards everything Sonic.
Sonic ships with this feel?
>>587774237Thank you Sonic comics for ruining the franchise with OoC behavior and teen drama
>>587774432Knuckles x Julie-Su
>>587773952>'Did you know Father also has a second-'>"SAGE!"
>>587774432You already got 2 Ben 10 incest threads on /co/, now you’re trying to bring it here?
>>587774395Ian didn't just come out of thin air
MetalmySo good
>>587774237Every time Ian writes something I hate Archie even more
I told you fags Sonic Prime was canon >but muh ooc >but muh plot holesDO YOU ACTUALLY THINK SEGA CARES? DO YOU THINK THEY CALLED IT CANON JUST FOR FUN?
Im bored, entertain me /sthg/, you will be rewarded
does shadow put anal beads up his ass
>>587774970Tits
What if Mario & Sonic got into a powerscaling debate about who would win between Luigi and Tails?
how it feels
>>587774581Archie isn’t writing for the games though, are they?
>>587773735
Has anyone ever gotten the image in their head of Robotnik capturing their pet to use for a robot and gettong simultaneously sad and mad about it?
>>587775214Nobody cares about bucket girl.
>>587772048>There's something especially freaky about watching a Sonic cryLmao
>>587775214how it feels
>>587772420>>587771259Please stop making posts like this, it's cringe and weird and just shows you're simping hard for some sodomizing avatarfag. It feels like you're trying to hit him and get yourself free drawing.
Hiii I'm Sonic let's play a game!
>>587775214Whisper and Tangle sneak.I never understood why Kit wasn't in this cover
>>587775509Nta but Are you the one that tried to stop me from processing my undying love to a male namefag
I say we should drop a nuke on Eggman's bald head
>>587773952>Starline broke into Tails's house not once but twiceHow does he do it?
I say we should drop an Eggman on you
>>587775249Archie spawned Ian. Ian writes for the games.
>>587775832Well only once, he messed up the first time.
>>587775614Tangle&Whisper and even fucking Belle deserved there immediate addition to the main friend group as for others...
>>587775856I think Archie should have just stayed a Satam comic instead of trying to become like the games.
>>587775856Old Archie Sonic was at least funny and psychotic. Late Archie and IDW Sonic is just a drag.
>>587775901>writesIan is only handled a script to make a framework and execute it. All the shitty story concepts like Frontiers are still from Sonic Team.
>>587775832Don't even POST this sexy puppetbot in my presence. I can't HANDLE seeing her. I won't be held responsible for my actions.
>>587775948I think Archive should've ended at issue 50 then hard rebooted about not being about SatAm based afterwards.
>>587775948
>>587775901He came in too late to truly be a product of Archie. Sega let him on board at the end of the day, just like they did with Pontaff, so the responsibility lies with them.
Sonic is becoming MLP but for girls
Uwu shit wouldn't be a problem if you just fire Evan and Ian
I will have requests done by tomorrow I swear. I want to take some time to polish them more than usual.
>>587776176Silver was always bad, Shitverspicbro.
>>587775924Not in the slightest. Tangle is the product of Ian’s hatred towards Amy and the other Sonic girls, Whisper is a crying lesbian that rips of MGS, and Belle is a crybaby that does nothing worthwhile.
>>587776102>MLP but for girls80s called, they want their toy commercial back.
>>587776229Mina and Honey getting hit with allegations
>>587775613From the fanart at first I thought rewrite sonic was a goofball but that thing is evil he not a friend but a sadistic bully
>>587775974The basic premise of Frontiers isn't the problem with it, it's the structure and especially the dialogue. By the way it was Flynn specifically who requested the ancients be connected to Chaos, which was is unnecessary connection that only makes things worse overall, he did have influence and impact on things beyond just the script itself
>>587776229Good work, anon. A shame I couldn't make a request.
>>587775974>everything good is all Ian!>anything bad is somebody else!Predictable pattern from Flynnfags.
>>587776371I mean the one’s I’m already working on silly
>>587776462>The basic premise of Frontiers isn't the problem with itI really don't think Eggdad is a good fucking premise for starters and it just screams they don't really care about Sonic integrity anymore.
>>587774676>Sonic using Metal Sonic as a proxy
>>587776371NTA let me guess, you automatically wrote and posted that after seeing one word without reading the rest of the post?
>>587776549What's wrong with Eggdad?
>>587776592Be serious, Archiefag.>>587776514Nice falseflagging, duofag.
>>587776229>Sonic pantiesbretty gud
Tangle and Whisper sharing the cuck chair.
>>587776682What? Eggdad is literally the opposite of Archie Eggman
>>587776440Cute
>>587776309Whisper was some weird attempt to make their own Shadow that they have more freedom with.
>>587776102Nigga we've been running on the "super power of teamwork" since 2003
>>587775974Not true. He’s allowed to give his own suggestions as well that can affect all versions. Originally, the Ancients weren’t related to the Chao or Chaos at all, but when Ian pointed out the similarities, they altered to story to include that.
>>587776549I agree with that, but that's not really the basic premise of the game. Eggman making an AI girl isn't really a problem itself either, they could have done it in a way the works, but the whole eggdad stuff is where it goes off the rails. That ship has sailed at this point and I'm unsure if there's a viable way to course correct it. I see the main point of SAGE as basically a replacement for Orbot and Cubot so they can be vaulted and Eggman still has someone else to talk to now that they're seemingly moving away from the comedy centric writing. I don't even think the intention was for the story to be about Sage, more so Sonic's friendships but obviously they didn't exactly do it right.
>>587776845And a MGS rip off. She’s a combination of all the Sniper girls, and her team was literally just Foxhound.
>>587777000Stone my beloved
>>587777000>Stone and the IDW movie coffee shop guyLucky quints AND trips, congratulations.
>>587776808All the lovey-dovey fathership with Metal you retarded, it's all only from comics.
>>587776906>Ian pointed out the similarities, they altered to story to include that.It wasn't even that, according to him they were just generic space aliens with completely different designs. He said he suggested the connection to tie it back to other games and avoid creating another alien race / species (typical). They created the final water designs because of his suggestion and he wasn't even satisfied at the result because he said he didn't think they'd make them look that similar.
>>587775948It was barely even a Satam comic until the Endgame prelude,it was closer it tone to that proto-Satam/Aosth-merged 'toon
We finally fixed the Dark Age games!
>>587776385Yup they all are but rewrite especially seems to be malicious on purpose
Did they rape him?
>>587777000Diversityslop
>>587777157Eggman being Metal's pappy is cute and canon!
>>587776371Anon, I...>>587776229No rush dude, we know the requests are getting crazier lol
>>587777223Over-reactions like this is why I don't feel any sympathy for the "Sonic is ruined" crowd.
>>587777418Fuck off lettuce
>>587776682Archie’s Egg Hitler was the polar opposite of Eggdad. Just compare Sage to Adam and M. It’s night and day.
>>587777464HotShelter...
>>587777418You sound like an IDW fan.
Why is SA2 always considered peak Sonic?
>>587777418This fanbase legitimately deserves nothing
>>587777418Or you're realizing they're right and it completely ruins Sonic's vibe if you put it in older games since it's ooc
>>587777052Why would I do that?
>>587777543A swan song for the console wars generation. Nostalgia does that.
>>587777492Archie Eggman cried when he was forced to destroy them iirc.
>>587777506Change your diapers, jap purist.
I like the tall white horse with the pretty hair.... she's so beautifulI need her to hold me and tell me I'm a good boy and everything is going to be okay...uuu... uuuuu... uu... u..
>>587777157That wasn't a thing for most of Archie's run. In the original continuity Metal was treated like an expendable drone and was destroyed in almost every appearance. Sometimes he never stayed dead, but Robotnik replaced him anyway- that's how they got variants like Shard and Captain Metal. In fact he died so many times that SEGA intervened and told them to stop.Metal Sonic didn't become Eggman's "golden child" until late in the post-reboot canon.
What the fuck is the point of making ooc bullshit canon? Ooc bullshit in fanfics is only fun BECAUSE it's ooc and wouldn't happen. When you actually make it happen it gets super fucking gay.
>>587777223You dumbass, he's supposed to be looking at someone while he does this.
>>587777418You deserve nothing because you accept anything Sega throws at you.
>>587777654>doesn't deny itOn-brand for you guys to defend Sonic's character assasination.
I'm horny
>>587777710>horsefuckerWhisper would never.
Sonic was never good.
Mario was always good
This reminds me of when IDW also murdered the expressions in this scene except it was Shadow and not Sonic.
>>587777776You almost had it!Oh and yeah, this fan base is super obnoxious at the times.
>>587774970I had a dream where silver ate chewed apples from my mouth and he moaned the entire time
>>587777969This has to be a fake ai cover.
>>587777649And he ultimately didn’t care. They were his favorite tools, but tools nonetheless. Once they were gone, he moved on.
What would they have to do for a reintroduction of Infinite for him to be redeemed?
>>587777572No, they are doing this just for the joke. They all loved the animation in the end.It's only you guys here who hate it.
>>587777056>"There's obviously much better in the Japanese dub.">But I don't know any Japanese. I'm just going off vibes andwhatmy developmentally-stunted comnunity tells me >Anyway, here's a screenshot of Japanese subs to let you know I'm a real fan who you should listen to.
>>587778052https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/IDW_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Issue_11?file=STH11+cvrRI.jpg
Warm fluffy boy
>>587778069He cried, though.
>>587778102We get it, you hate Sonic.
>>587777993Anon, I'll be nice since you're clearly too autistic to understand what's going on here and help you out: They're calling you retarded and telling you to leave. You don't need to stay here and keep posting stupid shit.
>>587777969>>587778052>>587777506>>587777776>>587776176>>587778172>>587778174Awful lot concern trolling and bait tonight huh.
>>587778090You can like the animation and hate Sonic's portrayal because it ruins the whole thing.
>>587778228Neither of those things are what you quoted, but okay.
>>587778084>I was pissed and Eggman gave me an outlet to express my anger, sorry bout that>I'm better now, but Shadow can still get fucked
>>587778294Who cares?
>>587778170So? Wouldn’t you get a bit upset if your favorite toy got destroyed too?
>>587778174Anon, there's no need to refer yourself in third person when insulting me, you can go straight to classic and tell me to kys over a wrong opinion.
>>587778298Chill, bestie.
>>587778339You do, since you posted replies. Your aloof act fell flat.
>>587777229There are like 12 layers of autism compressed into this image. I don't even know where to start.
>>587777969
>>587778084Not gonna happen.
God I want to fatten him up
>IDW fans praising it because it legitimizes their shitty Uwu crap >Sonamyfags praising it because it has Sonamy moments and they think that automatically makes anything good>Sonadowfags defending it because it shows Sonic being vulnerable with Shadow >Canonfags hating it because it reminds them Sega doesn't care about characterization after Black Knight I won
>>587778298I would say getting loaded up yourself and shocked over some IDW cover just because muh expression alone is pretty telltale on some making concerns out of thin air for nothing but trolling sake.
https://x.com/HyperBitHero/status/2121251397060657174
>>587778294It doesn’t ruin anything you manbaby. It’s a reflection of his inner feelings, he didnt actually make those faces outwardly
>>587778339>Who cares?There it is. I knew disingenuous faggots like you would start spouting this garbage.
>>587778228Kill yourself lettuce ywnbaw
>>587778545The movies are the cause of all of this. Sonic got made into a tweenage zoomer who wants a family and SEGA adapted it into the games.
>>587778228Mass reply anon, you mixed up completely different people before
>>587777821Honey cowgirling Nine while he shouts that he's going to strangle her to death if she makes him lose NNN.
>>587778228Interesting how your faggot ass only appears when IDW is shit on. Hmmmmm.
THIS IS ALL FROM A 11 MINUTE VIDEO BTWIMAGINE IF THEY MADE AN ENTIRE SERIES
>>587777821Same, where's Rouge?
>>587777969This seems fine to me because the half lidded smirk reads more as being slightly derisive, which is perfectly in line with how Shadow interacts with Sonic since fucking forever. It's a totally different expression.
How do we fix Blackwood?
I saw Rouge naked
>>587778228Oh no! People lying on the internet?!?!!!! Thats illegal!!!
>>587778084Amnesia
>>587778757like sonic prime?
>>587778730If only we still had porn drawfags
>>587778874Need
>>587778871Make him into a fine coat.
>>587778831>This seems fine to meYou gotta be fucking kidding.
>>587778756Nooticing you never say anything sort of that when Krack comes here only to samefag immensely along her simps.
I don't understand why you guys try so hard to play cover for shitposters these days. This place was not like this a year ago.
>>587778831Fuck off lettuce
>>587777493Lettuce openly seethes about namefags now?
>>587778950Play Heroes, jap purist larper.
>>587778952>changing the subjectfuck off idw simp
>>587778952>Krack out of nowhere when she wasn't even mentioned Why are you niggas so obsessed with this zoomer?
>>587779008I'm convinced someone advertises raids on this place regularly. I'm sure you can guess who.
>>587778952>Lettuce was the guy spam-complaining about krack having "simps"Oh I'm laffin
>>587778871“What? Little old me? I’m perfect!”
>>587778871What's wrong with Blackwood?
>>587778952Lettuce has a problem with all of the women in the general for some reason
>>587779251Spite because he will never be one
Looks like the attention whore wants more attention again.
>>587778910Prime was Canadian made garbage with different VA's, no flynn, no Izuka, and a new production team. It doesn't count.
>>587779074They don't give him that expression in official art. And even in-game it doesn't look like what IDW tried to do.
>ctrlf lettuce>7Someone's getting real hard schizo tonight for who knows what behind the scenes drama.
>>587779456kill yourself lettuce
>>587779176>>587779249Yet another writer's barely disguised fetish episode
>>587779353it's canon media. and sonic in that new short has that same 2020s tumblr sonic like in sonic prime and the movies
>Post count shoots up by almost 3x out of nowhere when one namefag is mentioned.
Redpill me on Iizuka
It's always fun being new to a general because you get to experience being accused of being some random namefag every time you post an opinion about anything. It's a beautiful world out there for me to not give a shit about.
modernbabs are finally getting a taste of what they deserve
This is what no games does to a mf
>>587778874And? I've seen Rouge naked. You've seen Rouge naked. Even Lex Luthor's seen Rouge naked. Everyone's seen Rouge naked. You're not special.>>587778871Start by giving him a skill that isn't brainwashing people. How about fencing? He's a noble so he must know how to fence, at least. Give Sephiroth his sword
>>587779287>>587779251>>587779170>>587779151>>587779084>>587779345Who the fuck hurt you enough to spam namefaggotry out of nowhere
I would like Shadow and knuckles game.Shadow would be the Shadow generations-like levels and Knuckles more beat em Up levels.
>>587779559I hope you're not that underaged who got their profile leaked here.
>>587775075It would result in a theatrical, Dragon Ball Z-style fight between Sonic and Mario
>>587779524Spineless dickwad who’d let the whole franchise (minus his pet Shitdow) roll over and die just to make daddy SoJ an ounce more money
>>587779636I implore you to seek therapy archiveschizo.
>>587779636Shut up already dude we don't like IDW or your stupid Uwu shit. Evan sucks and ruined the franchise.
>>587777418>>587777493>>587777654>>587778228>>587778339>>587778575>>587778831>>587778952>>587779074>>587779636lettuce melty
Lechuga puta y encima travesti
What the fuck is going on?
Of course the most annoying poster is some shitty drawfag who can only do stiff poses and is obsessed with Evan. He defends her shitty writing for Silver too. He never cared about Sonic.
>>587779646No, I'm a long time internet user, I just didn't frequent generals until recently - and when I said new, I meant I've been lurking around for a day or two. Is all of the schizoposting around here the norm?
>>587779876New animation dropped and people are having melties over various reasons.
>>587779876Sonamy won and people cant accept it
>>587779748Wrong namefag, duofag
>>587779501>implying it was barely disguised
Metal CHADnic won
>>587779876
>>587779965Yes.What's your first Sonic game you played?Your favorite character?Your favorite pairing?
It's really obvious when that one shadougefag passes out after 20 hours of shilling shadouge
>Blue...
>>587780139Faggot...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWq9-OMijHo
>>587780057-by pretending to be sonic
>>587780038>That expression Wait, is that the same expression the sport horse used?IWTCIWTW
>one anon makes a banal comment>melty ensuesIt's so tiring.
>>587779524Shadow is his favorite son and SA2 is his magnum opus. He doesn't care about games he didn't worked on or characters he didn't help to create.
>>587779965>Is all of the schizoposting around here the norm?Yes. We have like 6 namefags or more who all samefag and fight with each other to be the king/queen of this shitheap. It's really stupid because all 6 of them are clearly mentally ill.
What the fuck are you niggas even mad about
This is what 5 anons without jobs does to the thread and that's on generous estimation.
>Sthg and my irl company both being weird and annoying Oh my fucking goookkosjddjzjJddjowusgfjznakwnzbNs fuck
>>587779927Chris Chan, PaulandAmy, LadyLunanova, the Creampedo from Twitter that got arrested, and many more that are yet to be caught
>>587780312I'm mad lettuce hasn't killed himself yet
Lettuce having another Uwu melty because his vulnerabilityslop was insulted
>>587780323>my irl company both being weird and annoyingWhat do they even do?
>>587779524Iizuka is probably responsible for everything you like about Sonic
You're all gay.
>>587780091'06 (don't laugh...)TailsI dunno, I'm not huge into shipping. Sonamy is cute, I guess. I never saw much point in getting invested in potential romance in a series where the most central characters are NEVER going to be allowed to develop any kind of romantic relationships.
You now remember when Sony got pissed that Sega didn't want to make PS2 games >EGM: From a multiplatform perspective, we found that the GameCube and Xbox versions offered the most breathtaking visuals…was it difficult to get the game running at the same speed on the PS2? >Takashi Iizuka: Of course, as you know, the PS2 has the least favorable amount of memory... so, Sonic Team created a basic ideal of how Heroes should play and then arranged it so that it would work on GC, XB, and PS2. So, I had to sacrifice a certain amount of technical performance in order to offer the same experience on PS2. >Sony told SEGA the same thing they had told Capcom numerous times: “Release this on Playstation 2 or you'll never be allowed to release games on a Sony brand console ever again”. The PS2 was the dominant console that generation and being prevented from releasing titles on it could doom a company. However, SEGA was terrible at programming for the PS2. They had even produced a number of Dreamcast titles in the past that flat-out could not be done on PS2. But now, SEGA had to take a title they had already partially finished and move it from it's own proprietary engine to something that could easily be ported to all three consoles: Renderware. This sudden engine shift probably put them far behind schedule and messed up any chance to really polish the game as much as it needed to be >According to Capcom, RE4 character Leon was modeled with 10.000 polygons on the Gamecube, and on the PS2 the polygon count will be almost half of that number. By comparison, the Snake on Metal Gear Solid 3 has 4.000 polygons, 1.000 less than the PS2 RE4 Leon.
>>587780440He should kill himself desu
Shaking Ass in the Restoration HQ
>>587780549Hello!
>>587780460Bitch that was Naka. Iizuka is responsible for Sonic folding into a shell of itself
Tails! :D
>>587780626Silver...
Imagine liking ooc vulnerabilityslop reminishitting
>>587780510
>>587780570You poor soul.
Anyone else feel like we're going to get a game like Spider-man 2 where all of the characters are socially adjusted, vulnerable, easy to talk to, and know how to avoid trigger words and it gets so bland that hearing them talk becomes grating?
Memories and Beyond Sonic reminds me of SpongeBob
560 KB Naka: To tell you the truth, when we set out to make Sonic Adventure, we had to decide whether to make it for the Sega Saturn or the Dreamcast. Before that decision was made, I actually felt the Saturn might be the better choice. No doubt making it for the Dreamcast was the right call, and is the reason we've produced something of such quality. But in turn, I wanted to do something for Saturn users too, and that was how the Sonic Jam and Sonic R projects came about, developed concurrently. Then, when the Burning Rangers development concluded, that whole staff went straight over to Sonic Adventure. These all became huge projects, and honestly, Sega CS gave everything they had to complete them. Panzer Dragoon director Manabu Kusunoki helped out too, as did several other members of the CS team. Sonic Adventure really owes its existence to Sega CS' full mobilization. >Iizuka After finishing the previous game, Sonic Adventure (1998), I took the staff with me to San Francisco to work on this game. While the previous project was a large-scale project involving over 100 people, development on Sonic Adventure 2 started with just 11 people. Just hearing this might make it sound like it was a tough development environment, but since we were a small team in a new location, I remember that we were all able to work together freely and enjoy the development while supporting each another both professionally and personally.
>>587780935>Spiderman 2I dunno, I only did the pizza missions.
>>587780691Naka is very talented and can do a lot of things, but making fun levels isn't one of them.
>>587780935That's gonna be Frontiers 2. There will also be side-mission where we help a gay blobian couple.
>>587781041Me 20 minutes ago. Now I'm ready to play a Sonic game
>>587781041Sonic?
>>587781102We gotta go backwards.
>>587780903I'm under no illusions about it being a good game, it is what it is. It's a miracle I got into the franchise at all because I had become an almost exclusively PC gamer by around 2005.
>>587780943You guys struggle with that fact that this series targets 8 year olds
>>587781005>only needed 11 people to make the most kino Sonic game in the franchiseHoly SOVL.
>>587781279No, I meant having Tails as your fave and thinking sonamy being cute in the year of Our Lord 2026
>>587780837Boy!!! :)
>>587781267I'd do anything to get my goat back on sonic
>>587780452Passive aggressive pocket watching broke lame loser fucks Matter of fact I take back what I said about sthg it's just them
>>587781210>There will also be side-mission where we help a gay blobian couple.If this does happen, that's how we'll know for sure that Sonic Team is compromised by Hit Detection. Hit Detection already worked on Frontiers 1
>>587781102I PREFER the side on the right in every way but it has its own issues that would kill the franchise left unchecked >serious stories but still full of plot holes >just straight up copying other stories directly and replacing it with sonic characters in such an obvious way people pretend otherwise >stories getting formulaic fast >sonic becoming the most boring character in his own adventures >forced alternate playstyles>one button autism >Translation errors everywhere >Difficulty coming from bottomless pits and jank instead of fair challenge
>>587781102MR YUJI NAKA SAN SAMAI CAME FROM THE FUTURE TO DELIVER A VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGEDO NOT JOIN SQUARE ENIX
>>587781052Anon fucked up, they ment "Marvel's Spider-man 2", which is a game by Insomniac (of Ratchet and Spyro fame) from 2023.
>>587781446What's wrong with Tails? He's cool. Also, I'll admit that I don't feel particularly strongly about Sonamy, but it's all relative. Like I said, just not big into shipping.
If you leave Naka in charge without Oshima he will remove all the whimsy and turn Sonic into Mechwarrior
>>587780460I wouldn't say everything, but it's sad how people (myself included in the past) severely underplay his involvement. He usually gets brought up when people want to blame him for things they don't like, but ignore his actual work.>>587780691Above everything else, Iizuka is a game designer and director. He designed the stages in Sonic 3, Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, and more, he fleshed out the worlds seen in the games, he decided which characters are included and what they do, he decided and wrote game stories. I hope he gets to direct a game again soon
>>587781765Mechwarrior is awesome though
>>587781873Just because he made a couple of good games doesn't mean the majority of his work isn't full of failures
>>587781765The movies are literally causing this to happen right now and nobody is noticing because of all the vulnerability stuff
>>587781926But is it Sonic?
>>587782116It's better than Sonic
>>587781751Tails is the best!>>587782029The majority of his work is the games he made. If you don't like Kishimoto's games, blame it on Kishimoto
I HATE THAT HELLOKITTY
>>587781765>>587781926I like how the early 2000s games ALL stole robot designs from Mech Warrior and if you point this out people seethe
So is Ian the problem or is someone from SOA/SOJ telling him to write Sonic like a bitch
>>587781246Cumdumpster franchis, post whatever you want no one cares
>>587782201Show me
>>587782142lol
>>587782142>>587782201>westshit>better
>>587782146Everything from Heroes onward was trash
>>587782201Didn't MechWarrior steal most of their mech designs from 80s anime?
>>587782429Sonic IS westshit you stupid cuck
>>587782395It's free real estate
>>587782478So you dislike 2 out of his 5 games
>>587782412i wonder if surge has any good hypnosis porn...
>>587782641Please tell me you aren't crediting him with Sonic 3
>>587782713Why wouldn't I credit him for a game he designed
Memories and Beyond was just the plot of Virtua Fighter https://virtuafighter.fandom.com/wiki/Dural
>>587782702You know it's really strange how little hypno porn Surge/Kit and Starline have created. Genuinely wonder why.For being the writers' fetish, it sure doesn't have much of an impact.
>>587782898Fuck off
>>587770619Douge is so heartwarming... I don't think I've seen a Sonic character make such a loving gesture before.
>>587783037Iizuka is one of the main designers of Sonic 3. He made entire zones. Naka wanted the best SEGA developers to work on the game and Iizuka is what they sent him. Naka was impressed with Iizuka's work on Sonic 3. Sonic 3 is the game that made Iizuka become such an important member of Sonic Team.
>>587783127>Douge
>>587782383I highly suspect it's SOA telling him to write Sonic like that and SOJ stupidly letting it happen
>>587782923No? VF is a hypno/brainwashing plot. Dural is actually a human.Memories and Beyond is just OVA again, because that's the only story Metal Sonic has.
Penis Butt Zone
>>587783127This reminded me of Cyberpunk Edgerunners.
>>587783323Nah, Ian is all for it.
>>587782635I see. I think this type of design is fine for GUN though, just not Eggman. Even then this fits Eggman more than the ones in 2006 or the movies, since they're colorful
>>587783342EVAN STANLEY WROTE VIRTUA FIGHTER?
>>587783257 Stealth admits that Iizuka still has the Sonic 3K, Sonic Adventure DC and Sonic Adventure 2 DC source code base
I was late for today's Tailsposting huh
>>587783590i HATE that the movies decided to follow 06 of all things for the robots. People praise that some of the machines look like bugs but it isn't praisworthy.
>>587782984
>>587783257You implied he designed the whole game himselfRegardless, he sucks as a director
SA1 is actually a combination of two different projects that were in development. A lot of the platforming concepts came from the more traditional 3D Sonic project (Sonic Jam has a lot of unused character animations from this project, which would later be refined and used again in SA1), while the adventure fields and narrative focus came from the rpg project (Jam's hub world was originally built as a prototype area for this project before being repurposed for Jam).>Following the release of Sonic & Knuckles, Yasuhara quit, citing differences with Naka, and went on to develop games for Sega of America. >Takashi Iizuka felt that Sonic fans had been let down because Sonic Team was not focusing on Sonic enough>Sonic Adventure begins development in 1996>Sonic Adventure as a 3D game adaptation of Sonic begins development as a showcase for Dreamcast hardware. Transparencies, volumetric per-pixel shadows and volumetric fog features, ninja lighting, FMVs, voice acting, etc>Iizuka was able to request more RAM for the console specifically for Sonic Adventure. 24mb of RAM - 16mb working RAM and 8MB for textures. Saturn only has 4MB>Yuji Uekawa redesigned each character for Dreamcast >Seiyuu chosen by Iizuka. Jun'ichi Kanemaru as Sonic, Chikao Ōtsuka as Dr Eggman, Nobutoshi Canna as Knuckles, Taeko Kawata as Amy>Early in its development, the team had conducted research abroad to get ideas. The chosen region was South America>Tulum resort town on Mexico’s Caribbean coast, Machu Picchu, Tikal Mayan citadel in the rainforests of northern Guatemala, Cancún in Mexico were heavy and obvious inspirations for Mystic Ruins >Chaos according to Iizuka the director was made to shock, surprise people, something you would say "this is only posible on the Dreamcast">The hub worlds' emphasis on exploring to find new areas and power-ups was inspired by The Legend of Zelda
>>587783772It's never too late to post your favorite character,
>>587783495I don't doubt that either. Just look at how he has written Sonic in IDW. It's just that the lore team has a lot more power than he does. In fact, they can tell him what to write too
>>587783870>Iizuka loves Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy>Iizuka had a dream of becoming a manga artist, which ultimately led him to Sega after realizing manga wasn’t a viable career>In 1996 when the Burning Rangers development concluded, that whole staff went straight over to Sonic Adventure>Sonic Adventure was inspired by Sonic Team's Adventure in South America>Chichen Itza and Tikal provided the aesthetics concept of the shrine of Knuckles's race, Chaos and the serpents drawing on the walls of the temple; Cancun and Tulum provided the concept of Emerald Coast; Cuzco provided the Altar of Emerald; Machu Picchu provided the design of Windy Valley; and Ica provided the the aesthetics for Sand Hill>Lost World and Windy Valley were rebuilt dozens of times according to Iizuka>Sachiko Kawamura designed the Chao Garden and an upgraded version of the A-LIFE system from NiGHTS where you evolve Chao>Sonic Adventure's entire team was composed of Sega's top-class employees, and it wasn't uncommon for them to be working on other projects at the same time as Sonic Adventure. Their competence meant that, as the development went on, they'd often undertake individual sections on their own; as a consequence of that, no one person could really see the whole picture of the development, and when the game was finally finished and they played it, it was like, "Ohhh… so that's what's going on here.">Lost World became the standard of quality for the other stages. Many stages were remade and redesigned dozens of time before Iizuka and Naka were happy with them.>Fumie Kumatani, Jen Senoue, and Kenichi Tokoi were Sonic Adventure's Sound Team>Senoue' main theme "Open Your Heart" was re-written nine times>With SA1 they had pushed the Dreamcast close to its limit, so they knew it would be difficult, from a hardware perspective, to surpass that for SA2>"Our team of 120 got pared down to 11, sent to America, and told to go make Sonic Adventure 2," Iizuka says
>>587783806>the movies decided to follow 06 of all things for the robotsThey didn't. The movies didn't follow ANYTHING from the games. They just vaguely knew "Robotnik makes robots" and made him make generic robots because they never looked at any game (at least not while making the first movie)>>587783865>You implied he designed the whole game himselfI didn't. Iizuka made serious contributions to Sonic 3 and that earned him his success at SEGA, his work on Sonic 3 is what made him trusted to direct Sonic's move to 3D>Regardless, he sucks as a directorYou already said you like 2 of the games he directed
>>587783610yes
Imagine kissing Kit and sticking your tongue so far down his throat you can tickle his tonsils.
>>587784293Surge…
>>587783828Nermie
>>587784010True! (:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6F8_ZavIhcAnd the nyquil's kicking in. Goodnight>>587784293Tenrec hands typed this.
>>587783257Iizuka around the time of 3 & Knuckles was a newbie that just joined the company and was still being taught. He said it himself in that 4gamer interview.
>Forgive me, Amy, for what I’ve become and for the sins I’ve committed. Good Lord, have mercy on my soul!
>>587784334>Surge>>587784493>Tenrec>Implying
>>587784493Goodnight!
Kissing Kit so deeply you suck the fucking soul out of his body.
>>587784687the slander towards the animation has been killing me kek
>>587784529I know.
>>587784529Iizuka must've been really good as a designer if he was already doing senior design work at Sega as a newbie that was still learning.
>>587781102We were promised Amy's panties.
i don't care how corny that animation was, i'm just glad to be out of the shitty friends era. americans are stupid, they gotta be spoonfed.
>>587785056Probably a mentoring relationship. But Naka, Oshima, and many others also went right into game-making and lead positions when they just joined.https://www.4gamer.net/games/013/G101380/20260921041/
>>587785078You are the reason Sonic is dying
I dont get the hate. Sonic is very obviously a friend-oriented guy. And a peek into his most impactful memories would obviously have him acting emotional.Is this just a disconnect between me and the hyper fixated fanbase?
>>587785056Yes, that's the point I was making and idk why that anon didn't get it. Naka didn't trust Iizuka when he first met him because he was just a rookie, but changed his view of him after seeing him work on Sonic 3.
>>587785507I haven’t watched it. Is the whole thing really just one big reference to past games?
>>587785507Sonic is not a lovey dovey touchey feely sensitive uwu hellokitty who believes in the power of friendship and love. he values friendship but not like that
>>587785507I agree with you. This was a peek into his inner, hidden feelings. I don't think it's bad. The only problem is that Shadow and Rouge, who aren't really his friends, were there
>>587785507It's become expected of modern day fandom to over-analyze media to their own detriment.
I'm glad we finally confirmed that Amy is AMAB. Look at her face, she didn't have eyelashes in the classic era. She transitioned during the Adventure era.
>>587785507overloading metal sonic with the power of friendship to make him crack was a clever idea. sonic fans are just full of hatred
>>587785773Sonic is not a shyboy>but evan's shipping blog saidnothing that is worth anything
>>587785507As someone who loves reading romance manga, I'm used to characters being more affectionate when you see their "inner selves" interact with the people they care about. A tsundere isn't a tsundere on the inside.
>>587785689Wrong, loser! There are two entire Jp written games all about how much Sonic believes in the power of friendship. Heroes and Forces. Sonic just doesn't externalize his feelings much>>587785859He doesn't typically show his feelings much, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have them. I don't know if shy is the right word, although he does say he finds it embarrassing in Frontiers>>587785857Indeed
>>587785836
>>587785549> Naka didn't trust Iizuka Not that I don't believe you, but is there proof of this? These seem like big jobs for a newbie the head of ST didn't trust.>>587785673It's a short celebrating Sonic's 35th anniversary.
Sentimental the Hugdow
>>587784602i like the one on the right the most, tails looks very moe
>Character trait did not exist in the mainline canon until after Sonic and the Black Knightif you're wondering why fans react negatively to a character acting a certain way, it's this simple.
imagine taking sonic media released after naka's departure seriously
>>587786194https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2023/05/22/beep21-interview-with-iizuka-takashi/>What was the atmosphere like when you arrived?>Iizuka: At the time, Naka had asked Japan to send over an elite team to make Sonic 3. His instructions were basically, “We’re making the third game in our flagship series, so send me your very best people.” But when he first met me, he said, “What, a rookie?” (laughs awkwardly)
>>587786187If you didn't want trans Amy, you shouldn't have complained about the alternate dimension explanation. Then Modern Amy would have always been Modern Amy.
I don't have any strong feelings about anyone behind Sonic other than Uekawa.
>>587786198Yeah! :D>>587786267These cutoff points are dumb lol
Lanolin is demanding $10 before you can play with her.
>>587786551>Jewel is free>Lanolin is premuimWhat did they mean by this
>>587786461That's just how it is. In the 2000s fans acted the same way to 06. Any character trait that came after SA2 was considered OOC (SA1 and SA2 were lucky and never dealt with this)Sonic talking about the power of team work = OOCSonic getting invested in a princess = OOCShadow with guns = OOCSwearing = OOCKnuckles leaving angel island to help with an adventure = OOCAmy getting in fights over Sonic = OOCSonic accepting a date = OOCKnuckles falling on his head = OOCI know this is how it was back then too. In the 2000s every game from heroes to Black Knight was seen as OOC
>>587786551
>>587786740Yes I also remember Brain scratch, Roger Venderweid, Nickonaquamagna, and Darkness the Curse.They were all correct too
>>587786740Yeah I knowI get wanting to respect the source material, I do too, but just because something hasn't happened before doesn't mean it doesn't make sense for it to happen>SA1 and SA2 were lucky and never dealt with thisThey did...
Is there a more iconic Sonic scene?
What if Sally had a rasengan
>>587786921The second Shadow fight
うちらってソニックのことをほとんど何も知らないのに『ソニックはこんな顔しないしこんなこと言わないしこんなこと思わない!』はソニックに理想のヒーロー像を押し付けてるって思ってるソニックがどんなことしてもそれは新しく見えた一面だよ
>>587786740Okay but if people listened to those fans we would never get the meta era, idw, Ian Flynn or Evan
Sonic always believed in the power of friendship, but he wasn't an uwu bitch about it.
>>587770619sex with this thing IMMEDIATELY
>>587787224shadow...
>>587787224yes...
>>587786551Sex with those things
とっくにごぞんじなんだろう?! オレは地球からきさまをたおおすためにやってきたサイヤ人….おだやかな心を持ちながら激しい怒りによって目が覚めた伝説の戦士…スーパーサイヤ人孫悟空だ!!!
>>587787103And we would've just dealt with greener grasses with whole other plethora of shitty stuff.
>>>587770619Why do sonic fans pretend not to understand the difference of Sonic making a total pussy UwU expression and a more subdued less blatant one?
>>587787551It was two seconds out of the entire animated short. Get a grip.
>>587787661Fuck off Lettuce
>>587786726100% premium wool
>>587787703>namefaggingYou're too far gone.
>>587787661He literally made it EVERY fucking memory of his to really hamfist it in.. Let alone portrayed it in one of the most iconic poses in the series.
Fire Ian already.
>>587779927i wonder where that edgy shadowstan from the sonic passion forums is in life, i hope he didn't follow the same path as paul
>>587788172This is offensive to me.
>>587788191Why?
>>587788274Well you see, I'm a gigantic prancing faggot la-la homo man.
>Sonic was using only 0.01% of his real power the whole time
>>587787843did you miss the part where metal sonic was kicking everyone's asses and sonic needed to do something he wouldn't normally do
>>587788172Made for bbhc (big blue hedgehog cock)
>>587786921SA2's hero story Intro
sex
>>587782984>starline mindrapes you into having sex with himGIWTWM
>>587775253Put this pic in the Lourve, it perfectly showcases how inorganic the cadence of newer Sonic dialogue can beIf anything, one of the oddest aspects about Eggman is how quick he is to team up with Sonic against larger threats. In one occasion, it even happened off screen
>>587788762Sonic likes to pull her dress aside and suck her breast
>>587788762Coldsteel, Ashura, and Nazo
So official writers will now send you vague physical threats if you dare critique their work. Why is this allowed?
>>587789487Daniel Barnes when people realize he also pushes uwu shit
>>587789487He's calling them nerds you dork
>>587786740SoWhen everything is OOCNothing is? That's deep man
>>587788274because he's posting on /sthg/ and everyone is offended by everything here
If I see Surge womanized I assume a Sonurgefag made it
>>587789675that's ironic
>>587788172This is sexy to me.
>>587771574because it's the bad one
>>587790013And the problem is?
at least a million purists were born because of that expression
Someone post the coro coro chapter.
>>587790320All they’ll do is speed up the inevitable shelving of Sonic. There’s a silver lining here.
>>587790436Doesn't it come out on the 15th?
>>587790461When the 15th is on a weekend it comes out the Thursday before. It's out already, Imada posted about it. If anyone here could post it I'd appreciate it.
>>587790570i recall on a previous thread that someone was gonna translate it but forgot to buy it
>>587790570I see. Let's wait for Windii to post it then
>>587790645She's sad because some guy spent the last 3 days shitposting about a common misinterpretation of Never Turn Back
Sonic is supposed to be cool.
Sonic is supposed to have unprotected lovemaking with Surge
Metal Sonic is, in a way, too much like Sonic in his natural state,so he lets all those complicated feelings Sonic usually keeps bottled up out of embarrassment come pouring out,which is why he ends up pulling Amy in close and being so open with her.Hoooooooh????? Metal, you're pretty good at this?????(Sonic, don't you dare keep Amy waiting for 30 years)
>>587791284
Sonic is supposed to be Sonic.
Considering how stoic Sonic is supposed to be, his fans are some whiny bitches
Happy Shadria day
I found you...FUCKER! >=o>Fucker? I think YO'RE the fucked hedgehog around heah. Yo're comparin' yoself ta me? Hah! Yo're not evan good enough ta be my fu'll make you eat those slergs!
>>587792316I literally thought this was a drawing by Ken Penders.
>>587792505This ship literally created uwuver
Marathon (Sonic 2006) recompiled releases in 10 hours! I've been looking forward to it
>>587792316Anyone elee notice Shadow suddenly becomes British in thid encounter? Maybe these were the first Shadow lines recorded when casting actors and they didn't do a retake
>>587792746Humphrey used to give Shadow a bit of an accent.
>>587792505Early IDW gave Whisper large boobs that are gone now that her official model has a smaller chest than Amy
>>587786551cheap whore
>>587792739Did they add the update?Playing that game without the update is insanity.
>>587793067Where did this misinformation come from? The game didn't get updates. It got some paid DLC. One DLC makes some small changes to the physics, but it's limited to that DLC and not the rest of the game's content.
>>587793174So probably is that, it's been ages and my memory is failing.
You have a favorite character. What is your pet peeve regarding that character? Something writers do with them that you dislike and wish would stop.
>>587774432Knuckles x Tikal
>>587780440Lettuce and Slashy both like to pick fights with namefags over nothing
>>587792175Maria is dead and shadow's moved on
Got to the last level of Sonic Pico Park and can't wrangle a gaggle of 6 retards so that me and the host can actually finish the level. They're all too busy fighting over who gets to jump to do a stupid switch. I'll try again later.
>>587793525ShadowLet the fucking stale SA2 rivalry die. He's not the punisher and he's not wolverine, he's a gentleman.
>>587793952>He's not the punisher and he's not wolverineIt is really unfortunate that Punisher's dead wife is named Maria
>>587793895lol they were all in-character
>>587794068>>587793895kek
20 years since the day Sonic died.
>>587794142By bye miss American pie
What does Rouge reload her legs with?
>>587794142Elise fucked up the revival process and he came back wrong
I love Sonurge! that's all I wanted to say
>mfw faker
>>587794467What the fuck, it actually looks cute
Unless you can speak perfect Japanese and specifically within the Tokyo/Kyoto dialect then I don't want to hear you glazing any JP scripts you fucking weeb larpers.
how some of you look on a daily basis
>>587794567So it's wrong to prefer the english sub?
>>587785507>Sonic acts during emotionally charged moments in a specific manner that avoids being childish and theatrical but is still solemn; this cringy dialogue/delivery, his goofy, out of place expression, and the framing of past events to enable them get poked at as a resultIs not the same as>Sonic can't have emotions other than "cocky" ever, and these animations are completely unsalvageable
>>587794467tsunderes are known to be automatic best girls, so i will allow it
>>587794467Is she naked from the waist down?
>>587794642Do you or do you not speak Japanese? Specifically within the Tokyo/Kyoto dialect? If the answer is no then you are a larper. You are subtitling a language you can't read or listen to to give yourself an identity and feel unique. It is just as bad as contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism. Period.
>>587794738Yeah
>>587794738don't let that distract you from the fact that sonic is completely naked there
>>587794745>Do you or do you not speak Japanese?Only everyday loanwords like "Sayonara" >Specifically within the Tokyo/Kyoto dialect? If you had a gun to my head I wouldn't know the slightest difference.Still prefer the JP
>Tokyo/Kyoto dialect
>>587794851I was originally going to say Kanto/Kansai but then someone on here would think I'm talking about Pokemon.
Sonic Speed Sim is giving us deep lore drops about Jewel's heritage.
>>587794467I would probably read a Sonurge webcomic but nobody made one. Popular ships usually get a webcomic even if they aren't canon.
>>587794983Her ancestors ate shit.
>>587795031I hate Decuck but I'm still turned on by this.
>>587795103I blame Deku for UWushit becoming so popular
The thing is UwUshit isn't even popular, it is only liked by online "fandom spaces". The average person doesn't think it's cool for a character to be a softboy.
>>587789924Is this new?
Uwushit is more popular in Japan than edgeshit
>>587796135Which is weird because douge is edgeshit and it's pretty popular among the Japanese fandom
>>587796452Someone is about to show up and disagree
>>587796494The Sonic 35th anniversary created hundreds of windfag sleeper agents over night
>>587785507Sonic isn’t the kind of guy to outwardly express his emotions like that. He’s more likely to express his fondness for others through actions rather than getting sappy and corny.
>>587785507>>587796665But it's still in his head in the short.
Hearing about the release of the 2006 recompilation made me excited to play the game a bit. I went through Sonic's Kingdom Valley very hard mode, it was fun!I had the goal of getting an S rank. I was doing great on my first attempt, but then I lost on the rails/homing attack part before the mach speed section. Got discouraged and had a few bad runs for a while, but now I had another decent one. Unfortunately lost a life in the mach speed section though, so B rank is still my best here
>>587796482>japs love shadaria myth>sega loves shadaria myth>blahblateru means romantic love blog post
>>587796665I agree, but this short was like a look inside his mind
>>587785773But you’re wrong. Sonic should never be depicted as fawning for people like a school girl, or characterized as Deku or Steven Universe. It’s just not who he is.
>every lanolin model>they have fatter tits than Rouge
>>587796773Gonna wait for mods to fix it before playing it again. Still have bad memories of playing it.
>>587796894country girls grow em BIG
>>587796776Why do you think these are myths?
>>587796768>>587796847That really doesn’t matter. Sonic shouldn’t be making faces like this towards Shadow, and acting overly sappy in general. The view should be able to understand that Sonic cares about his friends without being bludgeoned over the head with it. Hell, the vocal themes from the games do a better job at illustrating Sonic’s inner thoughts and motivations than this, so there’s no excuse for this being wildly out of character.
Lien is right, the expectations around Sonic are rooted in toxic masculinity. This is why people let Archie Sonic get away with mischaracterization instead of IDW Sonic. Archie Sonic leans further into masculinity while IDW leans further into vulnerability. Archie is more OOC but fans (Men) allow it because it makes them feel strong and wanted.
>>587796894
>>587797113Not either of those anons, and I pretty much agree with you... but what the fuck do you want us to do about it? You're just screaming into the void here, none of us have any power over the direction of this series. I'm not saying that you should just consume and be happy, but your complaints could be directed somewhere that might actually reach a writer instead of being used to bludgeon random anons. Some random people liking something that you dislike isn't really germane to the issue, arguing with them (even if you convince them of your position) isn't going to accomplish anything meaningful.
>evil Tangle>wears a skirt
>>587797780Because I like discussion. That’s all.
guys i was rewatching the short earlier and the background music from the scene with the infamous facial expressions kept bugging me. i was having massive deja vu and felt like i had heard it before, and then it hit me like oncoming traffic. it heavily reminded me of this specific song from the lost season 4 soundtrack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llsWZtl9WmY
I think you guys are harping on a single scene way too hard. I get your complaints but what is with the obsessive need to keep bringing it up and making memes of it?
>>587797995I think we’re not.
>>587797995Do you know how long it took to stop making fun of Elise
>>587798038I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then.>>587798053I thought that was an overreaction as well. There are a lot worse things in 06 than Elise.
>>587798090This is the era where we kill people for OOC. Get with the program.
>>587796620WindGODS will take their franchise back
>>587798275The wind will rise again.
>>587797240Fuck Archie Sonic, he was a douche
Indoctrinated IDWtroons snapping out of it just by seeing Sonic smile too warmly
>>587796620This wouldn’t have happened if they would just characterize Sonic correctly. Now my GOAT is getting slandered by everyone.
>>587798261Okay whoa killing is unnecessary
>>587798580>>587797113>>587797982oh my god, how much of this is there?
>>587796620I wish this would lead to the reverse 06 situation (west purge for 10-20 years) but it wont
Wish I may, wish I mightBe someone else tonightSometimes I wish I was never born at allAnd I'll try to save the world'Cause in the end I knowI'm the chosen one
>>587798090Current fandom thinks 06 was le misunderstood masterpiece which got unfairly panned by critics due to a few bugs
can you imagine if they did this uwu shit to goku oh wait nevermind
>>587798628It’s everywhere. Even fan artists are joining in and editing their own work.
>>587795110>>587796494>>587797113>>587797982>>587798580Get a life
HAPPY 20TH BIRTHDAY SONIC 2006!!!!!For better and much much much much much much worse, the franchise has never been the same since
>>587798746Would Sonic heal his son’s enemy too?
>>587798726I don't think this is a nostalgia thing. IDW mindbroke so many fans that their standard changed from "Good" to "In character". No one cares about if 06 was shit, just Sonic not preaching about killing or being too gay.
>>587798038>we
>>587798821Pendersnic would erase his own children in the name of freedom
>>587798826Crossworlds hurt me.
>>587798781You are in /sthg/ too, buddy. That argument won't work here.
>>587798794The bright side is it made Sega realize their incompetence and lack of touch... for a second time.
>>587799027??? What was the first time?
We need some SonElise to commemorate
>>587798748kek
>>587798916You mean Iannic. He’d free Erazor Djinn in the name of FREEDOM.
>>587799027The bad news is they made the same mistake with Sonic Boom....and Sonic Forces.....and tried to do it with Frontiers again
>>587786551They added Lanny and Jewel to Speed Sim? Do they do anything?
>>587798794I guess I'm gonna watch something about Sonic 2006.
>>587792175
>>587799119When they stopped making consoles>>587799193Those games are at least playable.
>>587799168Just need some face adjustment to make it in character.
>>587799303Bagcarrydow the icecreamhog
today is the anniversary of the family matters episode where urkel took a serum to make himself a cool guy
>>587799303>Hello, I'm Maria, and this is my autistic friend Shadow!
>>587799392The Dreamcast failing wasn't Sega's fault
Amy...we did it...we redeemed Little Planet...
>>587799786Kek
Ian fucked up big time with that sentimental look
>>587799786>>587799857Sonic has a weird "O" face.
>>587799786The best part of these edits is how it makes uwufags and loreteamfags seethe because there's no rebuttal to how out of place and ooc it looks when you put the look in past cutscenes
>>587799916well they're vulnerable people, of course it hurts their feelings
>>587799916It's so fucking funny dude
Since this can only be during Gens, this expression makes literally no sense. Sonic beat Shadow’s ass and stole his Emerald after this.
Finally someone gets it If only Ian Flynn and the "lore team" would
>"You make every date with Sonic a memorable one, Mina Mongoose..."
>>587799916It's supposed to make us seethe? Because I like some of the edits
I hope nakamura posts concept art or something
>>587800283Thank you for giving me this idea
i feel like true discourse is lost under multiple layers, i dont know if ian and co will get it>sonic shouldnt have made those faces>well, he didnt actually make them, its his memory of it being showcased>he still shouldnt have made them at all because...???
>>587800280>Hard to readHe made a clearly disgusted face. That's not being shy or reserved, he never acted the way he was supposed to act
>>587800416Absolutely perfect, kek.
>>587800457How is that a disgusted face retard? Sonic never hated Amy or her affection
when the japs did this gushy sentimental crap they were at least smart enough to convey it through a new character like Elise instead of forcing Sonic to be OOC
>>587800457>Disgusted face?????That looks nothing like disgust. He saved Amy, put her down, backed away after making sure she was fine, and then ran to go check on little planet.
Besties still coping I see
>>587799954Lmao. The Mephiles kill one got me.
How do people ranting about toxic masculinity would feel if blaze and sage started to act like amy suddenly
>>587799168alright
>>587800692SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
>>587800454It doesn’t matter if they were in his head, those are still out of character, and Sonic shouldn’t be acting like an overly emotional cornball.
>>587800743SCRIBBLES NO THE BESTIES ARE GOING TO GET U
>>587800457Being incapable of reading emotions is a sign of autism.
>>587800743BasedCanon
They probably would've gotten away with it if they didn't have Sonic make that face at Shadow of all fucking people.
>>587800485>>587800581>>587800821Revisionists Amybesties are the worst. Your delusion knows no bounds.
>>587798467Tailscel...
Where did the "Sonic likes the chase" idea even come from
Besties are willing to accept RevisionistNic to make Sonamy happen even though the whole fandom is making fun of it
For the 20th anniversary I'm gonna play Sonic 1 GBA since it came out on the same dayI still remember playing this on my DS when we went out to restaurants
>>587800885Not true. It wouldn’t stop him from being lame and corny throughout the rest of it. It would only make him look like less of a psycho.
>>587800979I actually played this game a lot without realizing it's supposed to be a horrible hated game
>>587800958From the fact that he lets Amy chase him (Unless you think Amy is FTL) and does stuff like accompany her shopping or agree to dates with her.
>>587801050The whole FTL thing felt more like coping with how the cutscenes are directed. Sure, realistically Sonic should be able to disappear in an instant if he's somewhere he doesn't want to be but that doesn't even happen when he's being attacked or chased.
If I go back in time and make them rename 2006's "Sonic the Hedgehog" to "Sonic Adventure 3", how much better or worse off does the timeline and the future of Sonic fare?
>>587801178>realistically Sonic should be able to disappear in an instant if he's somewhere he doesn't want to be Which he does all the time like in many game endings>but that doesn't even happen when he's being attacked or chased.Sonic almost never runs away from a fight so I don't know why that would come up
Sonicfags should know how Silverfags feel now with this uwu nonsense.
Sonic being disgusted with Amy is a dubism. Every time he was overly snide or mean to her in the 2000s was a dubism. Adventure as well. You'd be surprised how often his discomfort was exaggerated.
>>587801287Why do people think characterfags are incapable of understanding more than one character? That they cant realize multiple characters are done poorly? The whole reason IDW discourse started to get uniform was because all four hedgehog fans realized they were all being done bad
>>587801186...If you could go back in time, why wouldn't you just stop them from releasing Sonic 06...or Rise of Lyric...Or Shenmue which bankrupted Sega with how much it cost.
>>587801341He’s just playing hard to get.
>>587801287>SilverfagsYou mean Edgyfags. I'm a Silverfag and I like Silver being cute
Are people actually complaining about power of friendship shit in Sonic? Really?Have we lost the plot?
>>587801287I said before that the only reason Silver Uwu stuff gets a pass is because Silver fans aren't as aggressive as Sonic and Shadow fans and if it ever happened to Sonic there would be mass outrage.
>>587801382Because characterfags usually just care about their favorite.
>>587800885>sonic was lame and didn't do anything when fighting metal>shadow showing up just to get beaten like a bitch by metal>they redeeming Metal with power of friendship>classic sonic is the past again
>>587776549Stfu Archiefag
>>587801430No you just masturbate to him getting buttfucked.
>>587801048It was how I first played Sonic 1 as a kid. I didn't have Mega Collection back then, only the Gems Collection. It's funny cause as a kid if you play something bad like that you don't think it's bad. You just go "Oh well I guess this is just how it's supposed to be" and accept that Sonic 1 looked and played like that.
20 years ago we had peak Shadow.
>>587801431It's overused...And "friendship" was ruined permanently by GLOBAL RULE 15.
>>587801048I heard it had glitches that the original lacked.
>>587801413I've determined that fixing 06 is more important than fixing Boom. Shenmue is too good a game to not let exist. If I can't get them to delay 06, I can at least get them to rename it to SA3. Will you take it? What will change?
>>587801432They were agressive to Evan and got a change but they just aren't as numerousbut even if you don't care about, recent portrayals of sonic should remind you that no one is safe if it is allowed to happen to anyone at all
>>587801430Silver is a bit of an edgy asshole who steals from children.
>>587801431How did everyone Sonic product before IDW Prime and this manage to do it right withour complaints? Even TSR did it better
>>587801512I don't need a cute picture of Silver for that.
>>587801550
>>587801583If you fix 06, Sonic Boom wouldn't exist.
>>587801474They didnt redeem Metal. Metal is going back to being Metal. They exploited a one-time situation to beat Metal *this time*
Every time someone says "So you just don't want Sonic to have emotions" you just know that person is seething out of their mind. No functioning adult can strawman that hard.
>>587801610Bullying Tails is normal.And Rivals is OoC
>>587801506>hours late replyYou need help.
>>587801583if you don't normalfags making fun of 06 then Sega would need to replace all the mocap cutscenes and the kiss
>>587801589You just know they want to get their hands on Shadow.
>life or death situation where sonic needs warm feelings or else you all die>shadow can't even be performatively nice
Please Mr. Kishimoto.....Save us from this.......please please please.........PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
>>587801639So cool.I loved Shadow's story in 06.
>>587783257Chadkashi Chadzuka
>>587801583So you're gonna find a way to ensure Yuji Naka doesn't leave Sega/gets fired?
>>587801619The point is your way of engaging with him is masturbatory fujoshi shit rather than sincere
>>587801646I don't know about that. What created Sonic Synergy? Colors and Generations did well. It was being made before Lost World had the chance to fail. I believe there was always going to be a demand, whether by fans or by corporate, for a Western-led Sonic, like we're seeing now with the movies.If I save Boom while allowing Modern to fail, Boom will overtake Modern and he'll become Legacy Sonic. If I could save Boom and allow them to coexist, I would, but I can't risk dedicating effort to Boom when 06 is more important
>>587801782You're gonna have to orchestrate events to ensure Yuji Naka is given that pay raise.
>>587801737You wanted an ooc shadow retard?
>>587797113Late reply (I was the second quote), but I agree about the Shadow bit. But I don't think that's the problem here. The problem is with the underlying assumption that Shadow (as well as Rouge) is friends with Sonic. The problem isn't with Sonic making that face at a friend, the problem is with Sonic making that face at Shadow. Shadow doesn't belong in this short
>>587801737Then don't have him there. Replace him with Blaze or better yet Cream.
>>587801782>>587801854Yuji Naka was fighting for more time and for the rights of his employees. It wasn't just about his own pay. He was a hero. The 06 Trigger.
>>587785836She has eyelashes in every other part of the scene. Its just an animation error.
>>587801865I miss his character before the meta era made him only care about Maria
>>587801824>If I could save BoomYou can't. Even if Sega didn't screw over the staff with the Wii U exclusivity, the project was always doomed to be a mediocre beat'em up with or without the Boom branding.At best, you could allow Big Red Button to produce the Crash Bandicoot game they initially wanted to make. No guarantee it will be good but it would be something BRB actually cared about.
>>587801972I would say you would need to go back to tell Naka to concede, but he doesn't seem like the type and would still do it anyway. He's like Sonic lol.
>>587802016Careful you'll wake the beast with that oneThat said, even in a best case scenario Shadow has nothing good to say about Sonic besides commending respect. Sonic did not inspire Shadow. Sonic did not directly help Shadow. People like Amy or Rouge or Shadow's own agencies did. Blaze would've been bettee for this because Sonic actually Paragon'd her while also having an "equal fight" with her
>>587786328He did such a good job he became part of the Sonic Team Core 4.
>>587802082A medicore beat em up selling a million copies across multiplatforms is a lot better than 500k copies on Wii U exclusively
>>587802132Who is the guy between Naka and Ohshima?
>>587802016But Shadow never had strong feelings for Sonic. He just doesn't fit what the animation was going for.
>>587801819I guess? That's how fanarts usually work, all fanarts.
>>587801929Dirty blazecel being jealous
Archie Shadow would've made sense since according to Ian, without Sonic around, Shadow turns into a tyrant king.
>>587801929Cream wouldnt accomplish anything new from Tails and Amy so I agree with Blaze
>>587802203Hideo Kojima
>>587802203Hirokazu Yasuhara the based Level designer. Aka the guy whose idea it was to make Sonic spin.
>>587802306what the heck that's not very windy
>>587802306Can someone explain how, if we're gonna run with this Mariadow thing, it's ooc for Shadow to try to conquer the world to ensure there's no threats to peace?
>>587802317Yeah, but why would Blaze be there when she's supposed to be from another dimension?
>>587802330That guy? I heard he went on to work on Jak and Daxter and that we don't really need him.
>>587802330I thought it was that Naka was programming a ball rolling game, meanwhile Ohshima was making a hedgehog character, and they combined the ideas to make him roll, and then Yasuhara designed how exactly he rolls in the levels
>>587802375You can say she is still on her idw vacation at the time this short is set, or that the Sol Emeralds whisked her there
>>587802365He would just put himself on ice
Shadow and Rouge provide different kind of memories and experiences compared to Sonic's main friend group. Cream, Blaze and Silver don't. Hop off their nuts, you vultures.
>>587802365Ian said one of the reasons King Shadow happened was because Sonic wasn't there to be a positive influence on him iirc.
>>587802470Shadow and Rouge have no reason to be there besides to increase the amount of viewers because they're popular characters. You're coping otherwise.
>>587802470Blaze and Silver can do what Shadow does less forced
>>587802410Nope. The idea to make Sonic spin came before the idea he was to be a hedgehog.It started with Naka wanting a way for the character to attack and jump at the same time because of his 1-button autism.Then they needed a character who spinned to fit the idea.The ball rolling thing is fanfiction made up by classicucks.
Why am I seeing an uptick on "Archie Shadow wasn't that OOC" and "Shadouge is totally canon" rhetoric these days
>>587802564Source?
>>587802470Well they did an awful job showcasing that since Rouge and Shadow could barely say something good about Sonic.
>>587802581Archiekeks don't understand any character
>>587802542>Shadow and Rouge have no reason to be thereThere are 7 chaos emeralds and each memory represents 1.Your argument doesnt make sense anyway because there isn't any more reason for fucking Blaze and Silver or Cream to be there anyway.Shadow and Rouge do whatever they want by conparison.
>>587802692You argument doesn't even make sense for why other characters couldn't have taken their places.
>>587802546>less forced>Literally from another dimension where she is a princess.>has 7 emeralds to counter the chaos emeralds, ruining all stakes>lemme just ignore my verse to do a random routine eggman base jaunt.>Silver>literally drom the future>doesnt have any reason in particular to be here because the stakes are lower>doesnt even control how he timetravels.How you see it as less forced is beyond me.Wait, its not. Its purely just agendafagging.
>>587802263Majority of fanarts are bad, but there's still fanart that is approitate rather than catering a fetish. you want him to be cute and sissified and purposefully interpret him thru that lens because it makes your yaoi fetish hotter. cuteverfags dont care about silver.
>>587802692I wouldnt replace Rouge but youre not justifying Shadow well
>>587802591The History of Sonic The Hedgehog official guide. Fun read.
>>587802789Portalshit means you can send Silver whenever you want to, just like idw is now doing>blaze rebuttalSo tell me does Blaze and her Emerald trivialize Sonic Colors? She was there and could have saved the day. Does it trivialize "muh main world princess duties"? Again idw is already doing this
My brain must be broken to enjoy reading these discussions
>>587802853Can you give a screenshot or something
>>587802804Except there isn't a better cute moment for Silver than asking Blaze for help and being dependent. Fake fans are those who want him to be something completely different because they watched too much dragon ball as a kid
>>587802607>barelyThey said great things.What would Blaze say? What would Silver? Cream would just be Amy again.The fact Rouge doesnt have that strong a connection to him but still can find something nice to say about him in that critical moment gives it flavor. Shadow acknowledging Sonic as on par with him as the ULF and calling out Metal for being a fake has sauce.If you think they werent as meaningful, fine. The idea those other characters "fit better"? Nonsense. Youre just agendaposting.
>>587802771>nuh-uhYuh-huhThe fact you are starting from the entitled position of believing they should says it all.>>587802808Shadow even doesnt need to be justified. He's Shadow. You're just Fatdowsperging.
>>587802992My agenda is agreeing with Rouge and Shadow, none of them wanted to be there and I agree with them.
>save a mom and her child from an accident>kill the child, because the wind is neutral>have no friends, because the wind does know the concept of friendship>watch and force Amy to fuck Shadow, because the wind does not know the meaning of loveI am... Windnic
>>587802887>Portalshit means you can send Silver whenever you want to, just like idw is now doingHim coming back just for this wouldnt make sense. IDW is going under the presumption there is somrthing important for him to do he doesnt know yet.>>587802887>So tell me does Blaze and her Emerald trivialize Sonic ColorsBlazeshitter, you have been addressed over this a million times already.Blaze is literally just a cameo character who doesnt do anything in Colors DS.That is not comparable to her actually being involved with the story and stakes by comparison.Blaze isn't gonna be core 5. Give it up already.
>>587802941It's not really about dependent, it was to contrast 2 different views, blaze is more pragmatic while silver is more idealistic, but he is stil confident. he didnt doubt his capabilities to kill the iblis trigger when mephiles asked him to, he defeated sonic and was ready to kill him before amy intervened. blaze's view isn2t even portrayed as the right one in the acutal gamethat being said, silver has some cute appeal, blaze said she liked his naivety and he likes chao. but in general it's kind of pornbrainedfujoshi stuff to interpret any character that isn't a %100 edgelord as a sissy purposefully
>>587803139Retarded
>>587803159Both IDW and this have a villain using the Chaos Emeralds
>>587802916Dude its 5 AM. Im not gonna go pull up the whole guidebook and take screenshots right now.Go do it yourself. I dont have time for indignant refutation tactics online.I gave you the source. I promise its in there. You WILL find it. Its early on in the book as well so its not hard to find.Oshima even talks abput TwinSyar in it, although he doesnt mention it by name.Sonic 1 was not a "ball physics simulation game". That's not even how it is coded or programmed.
>>587803159>Blaze is literally just a cameo character who doesnt do anything in Colors DS. That is not comparable to her actually being involved with the story and stakes by comparison.For your argument it does. First off it's not just a random cameo, it's the first meeting of Silver and Blaze after 06. Every Colors DS interaction is thought-through.Secondly, it has all the issues you describe. Her very presence means she's not doing her princess work AND that she has her Sol Emeralds that can save the day for them (in Colors DS' case, stopping Eggman and/or Nega Mother Wisp).I'm not your boogeyman and your argument is shit
>>587803280What does this have to do with anything?
>>587803357You cant say idw's stakes are above this because they arent
>>587803189Silver got guidance from 3 different sources dude, Amy, Blaze and Shadow. Silver is dependent, you just don't want to see it.
>>587803302If "its 5am" fuck off and go to sleep and dont just say shit without a source. You didnt earn some privilege where i magically believe you over any random poster
>>587803351>First off it's not just a random cameoOh youre doing the choice words thing again.I didnt say "random". Its not random. But it is just a cameo.>Secondly, it has all the issues you describeNo it doesnt because she isn't involved in the plot. She is just there for the attractions like everyone else while Sonic and Tails do all the actual work. She cant affect the stakes if she isnt involved in anything.You're being dense on purpose.
Any Sonic x Ristar fics? Going through my "tangentially Sonic related" Sega phase
>>587803302>5 AMYou should be sleeping
>>587803424He was tricked and shadow showed him what actually was up with mephiles. Blaze is more of an advisor than actively there. Amy isn't really ''guiding'' unless you think the SA1 scene with gamma is her mommying sonic. and even if you count them none of this excuses making him a stereotypical uke.
>>587803380Blaze is a bum that doesnt do anything in IDW. In the arcs where she was, the stakes WERE higher. How are NeoMetal and the Zombots lower stakes than this?The following arcs they do some convoluted shit where she is on "vacation" but conveniently leaves the Sol Emeralds back home for no real reason (a thing she can do now even tho they are supposed to be how she travels between worlds???) And now she doesnt really do anything.So what's your point?
>>587803478Not being involved in the main plot doesnt magically whisk away the issues you are pretending exist. Blaze even fights Orbot and Cubot. If you think her being a princess and her having her Sol Emeralds matters, then call out Colors DS for this same "issue"
>>587803430I gave you a source. You never had any intentions of engaging. You asked for it as a refutation tactic.Everything i said is verifiable. You literally have a super computer and advanced search tech. But you never had any intentions of doing so.>>587803497I should. I randomly woke up.
>>587803582Lil bro im talking about Silver coming back not Blaze
>>587803575So Silver needed guidance and you pulled the "pragmatic" and "idealistic" shit out of your ass, got it.
>IDW Blaze>Cucked out of Neo fight>Cucked out of zombie shit>Cucked out of any form of actionCuck cat
>>587803684>self evident factThis isn't "the sky is blue", you said something and refuse to back it up. You have the same super computer and advanced search tech if you're gonna make claims
I am officially tougher than Sonic
>>587803712According to IDW Sonic wouldve lost to Neo/Master Overlord without Blaze and it was more important she be there for that then the Forces war
>>587803703Blaze's advice didn't do shit though, she was wrong and sonic wasn't the trigger.anyways this is a waste of time. id prefer if you just returned to consuming silver yaoi rather than talking about characterization but i am gonna stop replying.
>>587803712Shouldn't have given her fire powers.
>>587803616>Not being involved in the main plot doesnt magically whisk away the issues you are pretending exist.Yes it does. That's literally how stories work. If youre argument then is Colors DS was contrived be my guest. But because Blaze is treated as a cameo and isnt involved in the actual plot, it becomes easier to suspend ones disbelief.If she was directly involved in the story, it would not.>even fights Orbot and Cubot. You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. She does a fireworks show to intimidate them because they annoyed her. Have a golf clap.
>>587803712Yeah it makes me doubt if flynn actually likes her despite what he said
>>587803698Silver doesnt do much more of anything in IDW either.
>>587803820Next time come back with a better excuse why Silver shouldn't be cute. Your headcanons about what happened in 06 aren't convincing anybody.
>>587803836>thats how stories work>easier to suspend disbeliefNo. The second you make a choice to include something, you are responsible for justifying that. I dont have a problem with Colors DS, just like I wouldnt have a problem if Blaze were here. But your arguments directly tear down an appearance like Colors DS
>>587803831That's why she should fight Metal. He can tank fire just fine, and people care less about what damage robots get.
>>587803804>According to IDW Sonic wouldve lost to Neo/Master Overlord without BlazeThe story never says this lmao. What are you yapping about?The story does say this about Silver in Zombot tho. But never for Blaze. >>587803726>self evident factI didnt say it was. Read my actual post.
>>587803987The Sol Emeralds whisk Blaze because she was needed
>>587803987>read my actual postRead mine. You made a claim and refuse to back it up.
>>587803485Ristar is a fun game
>>587803950>No. The second you make a choice to include something, you are responsible for justifying thatHow something is included changes the consequences of its inclusion. No one treats for example Superman or Flash showing up in a single epsiode of Batman as meaning he should be treated as a thing that always shows up in every subsequent epsiode given his superspeed because we can suspend our disbelief enough to accept Gotham is Batman's jurisdiction and Central City is Flash's.Blaze just being there on an optional side mission where she is just there for the rides and to meet Shitver is acceptable. When she talks to Sonic, they are all "everything alright? No issues?" "Nah, have fun we have things under control". So Blaze's presence doesn't matter.Bu the time rhe park is falling appart and anything serious is happening, everyone has already left.Compare this to say Generations where it makes less sense. Blaze is there for the final confrontation but doesnt jump in and go Burning to help.This is contrived and makes no sense and less acceptable, but we put up woth it because we know having Classic and Modern go Super together is the compelling narrative hook.But that just goes to show how problematic Blaze is in general.
>>587804129You need to be at least 18 and not a redditor to post here.
>>587804261I agree
>>587804336You're a lying sack of shit anon
>>587804098Blaze chose to come because they supposedly warned her something was up. There wasn't anything about her being needed. Youre trying to crib Silver lmao.
>>587804393So the Sol Emeralds warned her about Neo and not Forces
>>587804376Yeah man, I just made all that easily verifiable shit up for literally no reason. Ya found me out bro.
>>587804452According to IDW yes. Because Ian was part of the contingent of Blazefags that saw her not being in forces as a mistake to be "corrected".Early IDW is like this in general.
>>587804267If we can let narrative excuse poor choices like Generations then narrative would justify Blaze over Shadow in the animation
>>587804525You don't think it was a mistake Forces left out Blaze? The Phantom Ruby was a big deal, possibly the most powerful artifact in Sonic
Sonic! :D
>>587803139the wind only understands violence
>>587804580I think maekawa said that blaze can't appear in forces but idk why.Honestly the major reason her character going forward is hurt because it means nothing in sonic's dimension effects hers.
>>587804551No, rhat isnt how that works. Also Blaze at least had a reason to be there to begin with given she was attending Sonic's birthday, so she could schedule This by comparison is a run of the mill adventure that happened at the spur of the moment.There isn't any real reason she should be here othet than youre agendaposting.
lol what memory Blaze would even have?
>>587804842Sonic rush?
>>587804580>You don't think it was a mistake Forces left out Blaze?No? She is from another dimension. She has no stakes or conseque-Im tired and going to bed.If Cream wasnt involved, why would Blaze?If it satisfies your autism, the Ruby is shown to block and bypass Chaos Emerald energy so tell yourself the Sol Emeralds were blocked by it.
Instead of imagining Blaze is dealing with her own crazy world ending threats we dont see because she is from another dimension, you people instead just see her as twiddling her thumbs like the powderpuff girls waiting for the phone to ring to go to Sonic's world and solve his problems for him.I genuinely question how much you people actually like this character.
>>587805030Nobody cares about Sol
>>587805030Sega won't make it
>>587804842Their fight, the handshake or the scene of him explaining how to restore the emeralds power amd go Burning.But I dont like treating that last one as just a Sonic thing. Everyone was contributing to that.
>>587805030We like Blaze more than SHITver.
>>587804891What is the rhyme or reason that the Sol Emeralds whisk Blaze into Sonic's world?I would faster believe that they knew the time-travelling reality-warping gem would become a problem for Blaze's native world faster than... Neo Metal Sonic or Egg Planet Park would be.>>587805030That is how they have chosen to portray things with her. We do not have a Blaze series.
>>587805143>>587805143>>587805143
>>587805115>we>>587805121>What is the rhyme or reason that the Sol Emeralds whisk Blaze into Sonic's world?There is none.
>>587805121>That is how they have chosen to portray things with her.No it isn't. How Rush and and how Rush Adventure plays is that she goes back to her world and deals with her own problems in her dimension. That is her status quo, and its been that way for 20 years.
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