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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9736 - Birthday boy Edition

==NEWS==
>Discord server launched 5 October 2026
discord.gg/SonicOfficial
>SONIC PICO PARK released 12 November 2026
https://picoparkgame.com/spp/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond published 12 November 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yocC5AIQ5M
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #5 - 16 December 2026
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #19 - December 2026

==OTHER==
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru

Previous Zone: >>587770619
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Wish I may, wish I might
Be someone else tonight
Sometimes I wish I was never born at all
And I'll try to save the world
'Cause in the end I know
I'm the chosen one
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Sonic 06 was Shadow's game:
>had the most focus
>story plot is the most important of the three
>only character to directly confront the main villain
>last character in End of the World, thus finishing the stage
>has the biggest connection with Solaris (both are creations from the past)
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>>587805263
You dont understand the game if thats what you believe
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>>587805303
I do understand it.
I understand it being Shadow's game.

That's all I need to know.
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>>587805263
You understand the game is that's what you believe
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Kill Blaze
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No problem here. Just me an' my boomerang. I'm Sticks. Lookin' for fruits..
Say, over in the distance, isn't that..?
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>>587805121
>That is how they have chosen to portray things with her.
No it isn't. How Rush and and how Rush Adventure plays is that she goes back to her world and deals with her own problems in her dimension. That is her status quo, and its been that way for 20 years
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*headpats your OC*
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Sonic and his wife
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>>587805263
>>587805349
06 was Sonelise the game.
The idea Shadow got more focus is nonsense.
You just liked his story more.
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Surge is the perfect love interest for Sonic
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Out in space, 950 million miles away soars a meteoroid at a pace previously unknown to astronomers.
1,200 miles across, weighing just over two sextillion, or almost 1,000 tons, this extrasolar asteroid has been classified as some as a dwarf planet. Hurling through space at a speed considered to be unsustainable for any other cosmic body, this ancient, massive power has not only been maintaining this velocity for 6.9 billion years, scientists have confirmed that it's been accelerating.
To where, you may ask? To Earth. Larger than the state of Alaska, at 910 miles per second and increasing, this ball of death has the speed and weight not only to destroy all life on earth, it can vaporize the planet entirely. Dust and stone, water and ice burning into plasma, scattering across the universe, all that remains of all of the planet's history.
Scientists say we have less than 10 days until the end. The rock, named "Honey" by NASA, is said to have no chance to miss our planet, and collision is expected in the Pacific ocean, though by the time it enters our atmosphere the ocean will already be gone, along with Earth.
What happens after the collision? It's expected that Honey won't stop with Earth. Punching through like a bullet, Honey will continue to soar through the universe, uninterrupted, obliterating planet after planet, star after star, possibly even entire systems will collapse beneath her impact, never to be stopped.
Hug your family. Make amends with your enemies. Breathe the air and call your loved ones. The end is nigh, and her name is Honey.
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i found a public wi-fiNIG.GER NIGG,ER NIGGE.R NIGG,ER NIGGER NIGG.ER NIGGE.R N.IGGER! FUCK NIGGERS! KILL NIGGERS!
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>destroys your franchise
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>oh no, don't RAPE me Silver, what ever will I do!!
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I should jerk off to spite that nutty Tailsfag. I bet that'd get his goat.
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>>587805143
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>SHITver
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20 years of absolute dreams.
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>>587805983
She does this and then when he tries to play into it she says "Ew you thought I was serious? Get a grip"
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>>587806108
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>>587805763
Are you trying to get a random wifi hotspot banned
Why
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cute horses.... uuu...
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I never knew there was so many windfags
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>>587805143
Birthday sex?
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>>587806418
It’s so windy I could cry.
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>>587806156
Then he actually rapes her
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>>587806418
>I never knew there was [sic] so many fans of actual sonic
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Dead fandom, barely any fanart for the anniversary.
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>>587806418
Because people confuse windfags with japurists all the time when they're not the same thing at all.
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>>587806156
>”Grip THIS!”
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>>587806458
We can all take turns fucking his bussy
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>>587806710
Check out the last thread. Tons of fanart was posted, like picrel.
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>>587806710
We're partying with him anon
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>>587805143
pollock sounds so fucking old
please just replace the entire fucking cast
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>>587806852
What about Amy, Rouge and Cream?
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>>587805392
In Colors DS she is whisked away randomly to Egg Planet Park. In IDW she is whisked away to help fight Neo Metal. In Sonic Channel SONIC is whisked away to help her.
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>>587806710
Huh?
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>>587806909
all trash
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>>587806418
Windfags can't meme
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>>587806965
Amy sounds old
Rouge sounds young
Cream sounds...
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Penises, you see...
Penises should be used to give life, not take it.
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>>587807028
In this case it was a good reflection
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>>587799786
sonamfags are makng sonic ooc, yes. sonamyfags on deviantArt back in the early 2010s wanted to make amy "calm down" and for sonic to "stop being offended". i wouldn't be surprised if its the same people whom are working on sonic officially now
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>>587807101
I’m gonna give (You) new life so hard, girl.
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>>587806710
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>>587806710
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We don't have enough cool save moments
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>>587807151
b-but I'm a virgin!
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Does he think that sign can stop me? I can't read!
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>>587807287
My penis is long and hard, also I make six figures so say hi to your poppa
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>>587807503
Mother me up...
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Hey kid, looking for... conspiracy theories?
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>>587806710
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>>587807580
>How did bunch of red states flipped blue?
Is my flavor crackpot of the week
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>>587805143
(Hope Gemerl didn't make the cake this time...)
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What do people see in Tangle and Whisper? Is it really just thoughtlessly "muh lesbians"? They had a good story but I have never seen the vision for the ship. Is it because I'm heteronormative? I even bought into Blaze x Tangle more than Whisper.
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>>587807783
Even better would be why every 4 years the government flips the side.
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>>587806710
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>>587807959
It's the same thing as Beast Boy and Raven except it's Yuri
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Dow loves Maria 5ever
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>>587807970
Woah woah woah! Slow down! One conspiracy at a time!
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>>587807970
That's not always the case, sometimes it takes 8.
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Could /sthg/ beat Piko Park?
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>Sonamyfags happy
>Windfags furious
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>>587808373
>There are grown ass men playing this kiddyshit
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>>587808503
fun games are fun. what do grown ups play?
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>>587808503
It's Sonic the Hedgehog
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>>587808448
Nobody cares about Windfags, their opinions are of no value
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>>587808373
Wow, its like Knuckles Chaotix but worse.
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>>587808460
This is some idiotic Archie powerscaler pretending to do character analysis so he has an excuse to pretend Archie is accurate.
>It's still the same character from the games, but it explores how terrifying he can be
Archie didn't explore anything. It just made shit up.
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>>587808460
based
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>>587808584
Chris is literally a windfag
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>>587808657
sonamy is ooc crackship that as to turn sonic into uwu shyboy crybaby in order to work. sonally as bad as it can get is superior to sonamy because at least sonic was still a giga chad
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>>587808460
Archie is completely OOC. The only people who disagree are Archie fans who want to replace the game characters with their Archie versions. Archie Eggman isn't game Eggman. What a retarded post.
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Archie won
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>>587808657
>>587808840
>IDWfags seething
>>587808876
This.
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>>587808779
Did you just fucking assume that hating Archie means I'm a Sonamytard? Look at what those idiots praise. Do they actually sound like Sonic fans to you? All Sonic shippers want to destroy his character by self inserting and tying him down.
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>>587807959
It's probably just an aesthetic thing and people just think they look good together (one is silver colored and one is gold).

>They had a good story
It's funny, Whisangle is sorta like Knuxouge if ST actually took that seriously rather than trying to put Rouge with Shadow's sphere of characters. It doesn't help that that one good story is basically their only story.
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>>587808916
nothing personnel. our biggest archie hater here happens to be sonamy's biggest champion.
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>>587808902
>>587808779
At least IDW has Sonic in it
>>587808952
The biggest Archie hater here is Randomfox
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>>587808876
How?
>because archie's writers are working on official content that became canon
Ok, but how did Archie win? It's been dead for 10 years and the characters and settings are not even being used in multiplayer slop
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>>587808460
I don't get why Archie fans do this thing where they argue it's the same as the games. It isn't, that is why you like it. You don't need to play the game by purist rules to make Archie sound good. It reminds me of that Archie fan comic trying to explain Sonally break up with wind. You're just breaking Archie to placate people who hate it. It isn't like the games and never needed to be.
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>>587808260
Dow doesnt live 5 himself 6ever
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>>587809105
It's insecurity. Windfags won the fandom culture war and as a result everyone has to frame their favorite Sonic by secretly proving its "accurate" when it just isn't. It's a hopeless ploy since the only real winner is moviefags now. Sonamyfags do this all the time by pretending it's a wind shit pairing when that's literally impossible. Oshima didn't say "Amy is the only girl Sonic loves". He said Sonic loves no one.
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>>587809267
Of course Shadow doesn't live for himself. The only people who disagree are Shadria shiptards who think you can live by yourself while freezing away in a hole and having no friends. Shadow would rather die than live for himself.
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>>587808938
Whisper is into confident and capable people. Tangle is... not that
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>>587808938
I actually don't think silver and gold as colors compliment each other. darker colors or pastel colors go better with silver
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>>587809357
Happy birthday Silver
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>>587809105
I don't get it either. If you lie to people and say it's like the games, they'll just read it and learn it isn't like the games. Then you get more people like Randomfox because this fandom is autistic as shit.
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>>587809105
That guy isn't arguing that Archie is the same as the games, just that it explores a concept the game introduced, in this case the developing relationship between Eggman and Sonic, in a more interesting way.

But that's just his subjective his opinion.
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>>587809503
>This is the same goofball menace from the games
This sentence is false. Archie Eggman is not the same guy from the games at all. That's literally why I like him. Game Eggman is dogshit especially after Frontiers.
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>>587809357
Looking good Silver
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>>587809581
Because you misunderstand how his relationship with Sage works?
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>>587809581
>Game Eggman is dogshit
This
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>>587809105
Archienic is literally the least windpilled Sonic ever made. Can't even handle Dark Gaia energy.
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>>587809380
>Tangle is... not that

Not even a Whispanglefag, but come on.
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>>587809628
His relationship with Sage is ass. Sage is shit. Game Eggman was a boring clown only used to set up bigger villains. They couldn't even make him compelling when he was the final boss in the 2010s. He sucks.
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why cant we have just multiplayer with sonic characters racing each other
not in vehicles, but in flesh
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>>587809673
That's called not being a Mary Sue
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>>587809757
Game Eggman is supposed to be simple like Sonic.
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Happy birthday Silver.
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>>587809795
Its called Sonic Forces Speed Battle
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>>587809807
Fleetway Underground and most of SatAM are more windpilled than Archie. It isn't just about shipping or powerscaling. Archienic is not the same character as the games.
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>>587809267
kek
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Archie Sonic under Penders
>my family died and my wife moved on. I don't care I just want some adventures
Archie Sonic under Ian
>Eggman reset the timeline and deleted my parents and half of my friends. I don't care, the memory is fading anyways so I'll get over it

Game Sonic in current yeaer
>I wuv my friends and I want to hug them. Seeing them momentarily inconvenienced and not even injured makes me cry. Oh no, I can't believe they're hurt. I love my friends and I'm a faggot

Game Sonic isn't windy. Archie Sonic is windy. If you're a real windfag you agree.
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>>587809827
Venice doesn't belong there
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>>587810106
What you're showing us right now is this shitty affectionate hugger faggot Sonic came from Flynn and Archie.
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>>587810106
Of course Archienic was the start of this bullshit. I was just about to let Archiefags off the hook and blame Sonamyfags.
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>>587805143
I will never understand why so many people are ride or die for Silver the Hedgehog.
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>>587810106
It's always Archie.
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>>587810106
>Archie Sonic under Penders
>>my family died and my wife moved on. I don't care I just want some adventures
This didn't happen. He tweetes about it happening. He didn't get to write that in
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Archie was simply good, otherwise it wouldn't have ~24 years of runtime.

Maybe one day you'll reincarnate in the 90s and experience true passion.
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Nakama ga iru yo!!
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>>587810219
Because he's awesome and he's The Third S Hedgehog
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Honestly, of all the major recurring IDW characters, Tangle is the weakest. She doesn't really have any interesting motivations or a unique enough place in Sonic's World like the rest of the lesbians and fags in IDW. Her chemistry with the rest of the game cast isn't too interesting either, so she can't really stand on her own or lean on the game cast to make interesting stories.

And Tangle as an audience surrogate character isn't too interesting to read either. Before being clingy to Whisper, she was just a wannabe hero, that wasn't really good at doing hero stuff Surge does this idea better.

Outside of giving her a boyfriend, how do we fix Tangle?
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>>587810246
Do I sound like that distinction matters to me?
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>>587810246
>Archie fag tries to make Archie sound windpilled
>Another Archiefag shows up to correct him

I don't understand Archie. I just watch you all go back and forth.
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Someone wanted a fixedloop of this. Here you go.
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>>587810332
>Tangle is the weakest.
She has the weakest conceptual reason to exist
>how do we fix Tangle?
Tangle is someone who is Sonicpilled but isn't Sonic. Those Western ideas where writers want to punish Sonic (Prime, Lost World) can work on Tangle. They can work on Charmy more but Tangle can grow more than Charmy would be allowed to so
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Every day it's the same discussions VERY SINGLE DAY
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>>587810405
Archie isn't windpilled. Archie fans understand this. Some Archie fans are insecure about it and will dishonestly frame Archie as game accurate. Some JPfags seethe at Archie for being different from the games and will go on tirades blaming it for changing the games through Ian Flynn.
This is the entire conflict. Anyone claiming that one side is totally innocent is a liar.
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>>587810485
>JPfags seethe at Archie for being different from the games and will go on tirades blaming it for changing the games through Ian Flynn.
So JPchads ARE innocent. Because that literally did happen. We let an Archiefag write the main canon
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You know who dishonestly frames their favorite media as game accurate? Sonic X fans. Sonic X is completely OOC but they will keep insisting that it's accurate to the games. The weird thing is people just let it happen. When Archie or SatAM fans try this everyone calls it out, but Sonic X fans get a pass. Look at most of the people criticizing the Memories and Beyond short, they keep using Sonic X as an example. Sonic X isn't canon and never was. The people who wrote Sonic X didn't work on any games until after the show was done. Sonic X fans are fucking liars and they get away with it every day. I can't stand Xshitters.
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>>587810649
>reddit
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>>587810656
Sonic X gets a pass because of Sonic Team
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>>587810767
Sonic Team also oversaw Sonic Prime and IDW. I don't care about the excuses.
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>>587810472
>VERY SINGLE DAY
sir you drop these
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>>587810832
Yuji Naka never tweeted about Prime and IDW. Maekawa didn't contribute for Prime and IDW
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>>587810885
>muh word of god
Meaningless. Sonic X is different from the games and OOC.
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Windfags talk tough shit until Random shows up
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>>587810921
The games are never ooc?
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>>587810891
I don't even like Blade of Mid, but Sonic rivals is shit
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Archiefags doing their usual routine of glazing their garbage coming while shitting on the games because they hate the games.
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>>587810891
I dont get the meme. Also what is the question even polling?
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>>587810410
heheh. bouncies!
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>>587810283
>third hedgehog
Shadow is the third hedgehog. Be silent and know your place, shill.
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>>587811038
sit down
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>>587810967
OOC things can happen in the games. Orbot and Cubot exist to pander to an OOC interpretation of Eggman. That doesn't give Sonic X, Archie, Satam, the movies, or IDW a pass. They are all OOC and I'm tired of Sonic X getting special attention as the "most accurate show". That's meaningless.
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>>587810891
CWC in the top left corner
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>>587811038
I didnt say third hedgehog. I said third S. Why are you shoving Amy into a conversation that isnt about her?
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>OOC
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, EVERY VERSION OF THIS CARTOON RAT MUST BE EXACTLY THE SAME
You are legitimately mentally ill.
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>>587811174
You are the one who claims they're the same. If you didn't do that we wouldn't have a problem. I don't have a problem with fleetway fans because they stay in their lane.
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>>587811174
You can leave if you hate Sonic lil bro
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>>587808460
Archie Eggman was literally a Joker ripoff. Ian basically took the Joker's personality and put on Eggman's, and fans pretend it was original.
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>>587807959
Purely flag planting. The pairing doesn't even work in the hands of people who like it. Tangle is stripped from her bubbly personality to be on level with Whisper and the only way Whisper can connect with her is by having a panic attack.

Now, Silver x Whisper works because they're on the same level of seriousness and have complementing switch. Its the ship Tangle x Whisper attempts to be, where Silver can take the UwU, fish out of the water, naive role when being casual. Take missions seriously, and in dire become hyper focused and objective oriented. Complementing Whisper's shy and reserved casual attitude, battle readiness and then losing to her emotions in dire situations.

From Friday to doom's day, Silver goes from emotional to reserved, wheres Whisper goes from reserved to emotional.
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>>587811129
Of course it's about her. Silver getting shilled to fuck in his first appearance while Amy got shat on so hard is one of the reasons he sucks so much. Poochie ass bitch belongs in the trash.
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Makes me super sad that probably no one will submit a cool Marine and Blaze decal to the contest. Miijiu's art will definitely be picked as one of the winners once again solidifying Silver and Blaze as the default thing and that's how it must always be. Blaze is either defined by him or doesn't exist at all.
The art is good, but being realistic, this won't be used as support of them as a duo, people are just going to plaster this on their vehicle while changing their name to I heart Silvaze and ship warring. C
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>>587808460
>Exploration
That's like calling Man of Steel an exploration of Superman TAS
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>>587811254
>Silver x Whisper works
...when you make Silver ooc to fawn over her?
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>>587811174
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>>587811038
Amy is a hedgehog?
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>>587811218
Neither I, nor literally anyone outside your diseased mind ever claimed they were the same. Fuck off.

>>587811225
And then there's this copout True Scotsman bullshit. Kill yourself.
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>>587811330
With and without.
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>>587811354
Archie fags are always claiming they're the same characters
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>>587811303
It's not an exploration. It's just an attempt to appease game fans to the comic. An anon threads ago says Archie fans seem to keep doing this to get their comic accepted.
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>>587811354
>Neither I, nor literally anyone outside your diseased mind ever claimed they were the same. Fuck off.
So you admit Archie is completely OOC. Move along.
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>>587811289
Miiju is a good artist but there are many decals like that for the contest.
Not saying she can't win, but in terms of composition, I haven't seen any original decal yet.
Good colors though.
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>>587811397
No, they're not. You are a mentally ill freak who makes up enemies because your existence revolves around yelling at strangers over a shitty cartoon rat because you are eternally butthurt over a discontinued comic book for reasons no sane human being could ever hope to comprehend.
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I love how Godzilla 1998 explores if Godzilla was an entirely different thing that was vaguely the same in a branding sense
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You know what ship should be a thing?
Silvicks.
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>>587811530
Fuck you, I like Godzilla 1998
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Everyone losing their shit over a scene that happens entirely inside Sonic's head.
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>>587811575
Because you hate Godzilla
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>>587811452
So you admit that you get asshurt when the cartoon character isn't 100% the same in every iteration of this multimedia franchise. This isn't autism, this is a new form of mental disorder that would make any psychologist mercy kill their patient upon diagnosis.
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>>587811530
>>587811575
>>587811605
Can someone explain? I just know hes called Zilla but i havent watched any Gojira besides Monsterverse and Minus One
>>587811554
Sticks is an awesome character cuz you can imagine fun interactions from her with anyone
>>587811585
It can still be ooc even inside his head
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OOC is better.
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>>587811474
>there are many decals like that for the contest
I don't know if Sega's grading on originality with composition, there's only but so much you can do. I just hate that every decal design I've seen including more than one character has all been for ship agendas
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Archie Eggman would've been killed immediately if he existed in the games and the rest of the cast were IC. Reminder that Archie Eggman got piss-scared when Archie Shadow threatened to kill him. Game Eggman fought Game Shadow when he threatened to do the same.
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>>587811636
>Can someone explain? I just know hes called Zilla but i havent watched any Gojira besides Monsterverse and Minus One
Godzilla 1998 was a mid Godzilla movie made by Hollywood, and for some reason everyone seethed and malded over it because it used a very different design for Godzilla.

I'm honestly starting to think autism isn't real, humans are just like that.
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>>587811526
>reasons no sane human being could ever hope to comprehend.
Archie fans (NOT Sonic fans) such as Ian Flynn intentionally wish to destroy the characters I love and supplant them with the Archie versions. Archie fans like Game Apologist talk all the time about how the games would be better if Sonic acted like Archienic. He wants to replace Shadow with Archie Shadow. Archie fans want to eliminate the things that make me happy. You know what someone who wants to eliminate your happiness is? An enemy. I try to invite people like you to actually play the games and give them a chance and your response is "The games suck anyways" "The games are inconsistent lawl" "Archie ARCHIE ARCHIE ARCHIE"
So fuck you. We aren't going to get along unless you decide to make the jump and become an actual fan of Sonic. I'm not going to become an Archie faggot.
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>>587811687
Game Eggman screams no when Shadow is about to kill him in those endings
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>>587811626
I bet you liked that faggy Wolverine game. People like you are the problem and should be bullied/shamed.
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>>587811638
yellow fur < red fur
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Is he a windfag or an IDWfag?
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You need to have a single digit iq to call archie eggman accurate to the games. Archiefags are delusional.
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>>587811740
Yeah, after Shadow defeated him and carried out his threat.
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>>587811725
>Archie fans (NOT Sonic fans) such as Ian Flynn intentionally wish to destroy the characters I love and supplant them with the Archie versions.
Fuck me, I already used my "stopped reading there" image. Yes, anon. This is all about you. Ian Flynn is specifically trying to ruin your life by intentionally ruining the corporate product you are obsessed with. His plans are really coming together now that Sonic is allowed to... care about people. Soon, all you know and love will be destroyed utterly, and only then will he give you permission to die.

Get a fuckin' grip, mate.
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>>587810649
>will not talk about gameplay
Why do they make this strawman so much lately? 2000s Sonic fans talk about the gameplay all the time. Sonic Adventure 2 is consistently near or at the top of the most played Sonic games on Steam has the most active speedrunning scene in the series. Fans of Shadow 2005 typically praise the gameplay as well. Unleashed's day gameplay is loved by nearly everyone nowadays and the Werehog isn't as controversial as it used to be. The Dimps games regularly get praised for their gameplay.
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>>587811859
Archie eggman got scared before a fight?
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>>587811841
AoSTHGfag
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>>587811723
>>587811636
Godzilla's whole gimmick is that he's a giant fat monster who destroys cities and can't be defeated by the military.
98 Godzilla is a big raptor who lost to the military. Godzilla fans see him as worse than rape. He gets treated like Scrappy Doo.
Most godzilla movies are shitty anyways so it's not like it matters.
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>>587811785
>deflection
Didn't play it, have no interest. You're not getting out of the fact that you're a pathetic wiener.
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Why are people sperging so much about people simply making meme edits about sonic's face or simple criticism to it as insulting their family? i am not talking about accounts that harrass flynn or w/e, just simply memes or criticism to the product itself, people have meltdowns about the poster and their family over it.
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>Wanting accurate characterization is bad
Archiefags say this but complain about mandates "ruining" their comic by changing all the characters.
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>>587812028
Autism
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>>587812028
Archie and IDW fans get offended when you mock OOC things
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>>587809267
I love Shadow's story. :)
You wouldn't criticize a guy for living in order to provide for his wife and children, would you?
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>>587811940
Well if he's a western godzilla the approach will be to trust military more than scientists
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>IDWfag melty
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>>587811289
People bitched about silver/blaze sonic/blaze enough that they might just pick a blaze/cream thing and be done with it. yes marine will be irrevelant as always.
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>>587811530
It was made by Roland Emmerich, what did you expect
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>>587811940
>Godzilla fans see him as worse than rape.
Which is insane to me. It's not like this is some niche IP that may or may not survive a bad entry. This isn't an Other M situation. People need to learn how to fucking chill.

>spoiler
Fucking thank you! They are excuses to see the big monsters fight.
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>>587811898
Yes.
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>>587811879
>His plans are really coming together now that Sonic is allowed to... care about people.
You're a dishonest person. You're pretending people want something else. This is why I genuinely hate Archie fans. They are rotten people.
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>>587812120
If he told he was living for himself I'd tell him no he hasn't. He may enjoy what he's doing (Shadow doesn't even have that) but it's not for himself. Many men will tell you being a provider is subscribing to something higher and greater than themselves
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>>587812057
Wanting accurate characterization is perfectly reasonable. Wanting every iteration of a multimedia franchise to be exactly the same is delusion nonsense and misses the entire point of having multiple media of a concept.
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>>587812028
Its like that time /sthg/ became mad it was OOC for Sonic to stand still for no reason when an IDW issue came out where Sonic was on an elevator, but /sthg/ was too autistic to understand that he was on an elevator.
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>>587812248
If Archie just used the characterization from the games, we wouldn't have to deal with Ian Flynn's bullshit today.
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>>587812176
I mean, as far as I can tell, the fact Sonic cares about his friends and shows sentiment towards them appears to be the reason you're so mad at Memories and Beyond, so...
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>>587812168
Show?
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>>587812248
I want Sonic to be recognizable, not some skinwalker who is nothing like him. Simple as.
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>>587812323
>intentionally ignoring what I just said
Do you hate that Batman or TMNT or Transformers have differences in characterization? Because you almost certainly don't. So I wonder why the fuck Sonic MUST be the same across all versions.
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>>587812219
Shadow is subscribing to something higher and greater than himself. That's the point. He felt there was no point to existing at all in the beginning. But he realizes that Maria's soul, one that can understand and care for someone like him without asking for anything in return, is kind, beautiful, and strong. Shadow values that more than he ever valued himself. It's a beautiful story. A sad one, sure, but there's a certain beauty in the sadness.
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>>587812429
>Implying that nigga reads comics
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>>587812248
Fuck off Lettuce. Stop making excuses to kill the characters from the games and replace them with your shitty IDW headcanons. First you destroyed Silver... now you want to destroy Sonic. When it was just Silverchads you all let us suffer and defended Evan destroying his character. Now it's happening to Sonic and people are standing up to fight.
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>>587812087
>>587812028(me)
None of this matters since moviefags won anyway but i wish this fandom was better about allowing civil criticism to exist
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When Sonic and Shadow have that little battle or whatever, and Sonic looks back and gives him that very fucking gay look.
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>>587812429
Why is it so hard to just have Sonic be in a fucking Sonic comic? Why does it always have to be an uwu vulnerable take or horny romance self insert? Why can't it just be Sonic?
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>>587812480
>Lettuce
But he draws in-character Silver?
https://litter.catbox.moe/7y741n.png
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Douge
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>>587812429
>Archie is OOC
>Archie fags pretend it's IC
>Archie writer goes to the games
>Game characters start acting like completely different people
>Those character traits originated in Archie
"Why do you keep attacking Archie?"
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>>587812457
Right? The difference between, say, Dennis O'Neill Bruce and Frank Miller Bruce is kilometers apart, and yet Batman fans don't seem to have a problem with the fact different people have different interpretations of the character. Curious.

>>587812485
Hate to say it, but this is just a fact. Fucking Hollywood.
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>>587812347
Don't feel like going through a million issues just to find it. Maybe later.
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Sonic had the green emerald at the beginning of Generations and he gave it to Tails. Generations no longer makes any sense.
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>>587806947
I wish we saw more of silver and elise connection.
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>>587810219
>>587811265
>Blazefag falseflag melty
>"LOOK I'M ANOTHER CHARACTER FAG! HERE'S A REASON WHY I HE'S BAD"
You're embarrassing us retard. and i think Blaze is shit and Silver is cool now.
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>>587812770
Nta but why are you acting like characterization debates don't happen in the batman fandom? They do. They aren't even hard to find.
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"We're not trying to change the games!"
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Commander_Abraham_Tower
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>>587812620
Why is it so hard for you to comprehend that different people write characters differently? Like, you are fundamentally misunderstanding a rather vital aspect of the human condition here, bro.

>>587812752
I'll take 'Shit that didn't happen." for 500, Alex.
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>>587812770
You only get problems when you do something TRULY stupid and OOC. Like say, Spiderman OMD levels of retardation.
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>>587812652
Cute, that's the outfit he was in when he was imagining Maria in mature shoes in Sonicpict.
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Ok but Archie was much better than the garbage we getting today. yes including characterization
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Do you think Silver really has P-word?
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>>587812139
Cream doesn't belong to Shitaze, Shitaze should have a decal with the trash
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>different versions can act differently
and they're all worse than the games
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>>587812916
Why are you fighting so hard for characters to be inconsistent and not have the personalities people fell in love with?
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>>587812979
Archie is literally, and I actually mean literally, the reason we have this garbage characterization. Literally. Ian and Evan started on Archie.
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>>587812979
Look at how Archie fans openly admit they hate Sonic
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>>587812879
I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying that the Sonic fandom is the ONLY space where the mere existence of differing characterization is somehow a point of controversy.

>>587812902
>Sonic Team couldn't be arsed to give the character an actual name
>Flynn suggests the one he gave him in the comic
>this is considered the same as raping the games, getting it pregnant and ghosting it
Sonic fans will NEVER beat the "hurr hurr autism" allegations. Ever.
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>>587812979
Nope. They're both crappy misunderstandings of the series.
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>>587812967
shadougekeks need to steal just like their bat does
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>>587812979
This
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>>587812979
I wonder which OOC medias first gave Sonic the OOC detail of hugging his friends and being a vulnerable faggot
ARCHIE
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DON'T OPEN
NO ABRAS
開けるな
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>>587811670
People draw what they like
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>>587813117
Crusty Nigger Cum
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>>587813039
and? they could have started on literally anything with sonic on it since they were sonic fags who wanted to work on sonic. archie was used as their means in this case
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>>587813173
>NO ABRAS
but I like Abra
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>>587812480
>people are standing up to fight.
Lmao, you idiots are so deluded form reality
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>>587813029
I'm not fighting for anything here aside from trying to get you to understand that this is just how things are. You are basically arguing against the existence of the strong nuclear force, dude. Different people are different, and thus they will write the same character differently. Are you under the impression that humanity is some kind of hive mind?

>MUH ARCHIE
Or maybe you're just so obsessed that literally everything in your life circles back around to a dead comic book.
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If Archie never existed this wouldn't be a problem. We would have Xfags writing the games instead. Look at how IDW always improves when the writer isn't specifically Ian Flynn or Evan Stanley. They are the only two IDW writers who ALWAYS fuck something up. ALWAYS. They haven't been able to make a single issue in 20 years that is completely in character. They always fuck one of the most basic things up. That's because they're Archie faggots. Anyone is better. Get a fucking Moviefag and they will make less mistakes than an Archiefaggot. Archiefaggots genuinely hate Sonic.
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Sonic has been inconsistent more than he has been consistent. You've lost that battle long time ago.
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>>587813249
I like magic shows too.
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>>587813169
>hugging his friends is considered a heinous mischaracterization
Maybe Sonic is just a bad character. What an insecure cunt.
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>>587813323
Sonic either acts like Sonic or it's a bust. This is not up for debate anymore.
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That look was so gay I thought Sonic was gonna tell his shitty friends to take a walk, so he could saunter over to Shadow and suck his fucking cock. Now THAT would’ve been a 35th anniversary-worthy short!
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>>587813415
Finally an Archie fan is honest
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Archiefags will attack people who portray the characters accurately
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>>587812632
>tareme eyes
still shit
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the bibisi
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I don't like Archie, not the stories or characterizations or plots or drama. But I still fap to some of the characters.
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>>587812438
Therefore... he does not live for himself
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There are a plenty of very intelligent Archiefags. They just don't want to talk to you because you emit sperg energy.
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>>587812979
Yeah, I sure would take Tails yelling at Sonic he hates him over Fiona instead of this.
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>>587812832
What do you mean
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>>587811265
06 Amy is one of the best amy, you guys are just powerlevel/maincharacterfags
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>>587813312
bro you got cum on your face!!!
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>>587812770
This shitty expression was never in the games but happened in hundreds of Archie issues. Archie is the root of the problems.
>>587812632
Lettuce is always OOC. He never cared about Sonic
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>>587813482
Big Blackwood Cock
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>>587811265
Youre retarded. Silver and Amy are not competing. Hop off me and Silver's dicks
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Sloppy OOC kisses.
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>>587813529
6% - 24 years
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>>587813497
Applies to IDW too.
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>>587813507
>Unite4Sally
>intelligent
This guy accused Ian of hating Sonally and destroying it to enforce Sonamy.
This guy accused Game Apologist of hating Sally for saying Sally wouldn't be able to keep the same dynamic with Sonic in the games. Game Apolgist is one of the biggest Sallyfags on the internet. This Sallyfag is completely fucking deranged. He isn't intelligent at all.
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>>587813581
It's mine sorry
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>>587813595
exactly how ooc
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>>587813507
It's always Sally the unironic champion of Archie. That's like it Amy was more popular than game Sonic.
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>>587812967
she'd be 62 years old my man
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>>587813397
This is actually kind of horrifying.
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And then right after the Sonic-Shadow suckfest, right before the credits roles, Sonic flat out fucking BRICKS in Shadow’s mouth!
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>>587813686
>>587813507
I'm not going to screenshot his posts but yeah this account has a lot of blaming Ian Flynn for Sonally ending and claiming Ian is a rabid Sonamy shipper who invented the idea that Gamenic and Sally are incompatible.
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>Archie
>OOC
>Archie
>OOC
>Archie
>OOC
>Archie
>OOC
>Archie
>OOC
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>>587813397
>>587813805
>Tails can pull out lolis
So that's the magic powers of kitsune foxes?
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Lettuce has no understanding of characters from the games. Every time he tries to talk about characterization it's a disaster. He isn't a Sonic fan, he's an IDW fan. People like him should learn to shut up and play the fucking games. His Amy posts infuriate me.
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salad
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>>587813562
He's a Blazefag, he always wakes up when he fell she's threatened and have been flaseflagging as a Rougefag and an Amyfag since last night, specifically 14th November starting in India
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Literally no other fanbase has this obsession with forcing conformity.

... Oh my god, are Sonic fans communists?
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Why would you blame Ian for ending Sonally when it was literally SOJ who did that. They did that on sight. Ian didn't have a fucking choice. That's like blaming Quack for ending Shitrea.
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>>587813874
Archie OOC
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>>587813983
He's a rape porn artist, you can discard whatever he says.
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>>587814098
It wasn't known at the time and shipfags being shipfags... and sonicfags being sonicfags too. sonicfags like having scapegoats to blame
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>>587814092
What gave that away?
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>>587814092
>Oh my god, are Sonic fans communists?
spiritually, yeah
i talked how they hate competition from the manga, they both want idw and boc exist at the same time, but they compete, one can ultimately perish if it doesn't improve
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>>587814092
>Literally no other fanbase has this obsession with forcing conformity.
The first 20 years of Ash's existence were full of hatred because he was considered a mischaracterization of Red.

Red, a literal player self-insert who most people don't know the fucking name of. Sonic fans are autistic but don't pretend this is a Sonic only thing. Spider-man fans will literally tear you to shreds of you dare suggest that the 2000s Raimi movies are in-character. They hate that shit. Don't even get them started on the MCU.

There has been a Fairly Odd Parents ship war on /co/ for the past YEAR.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE DRAGON BALL FANDOM?
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>>587814123
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>>587814231
Wanting more things isnt bad
They can coexist
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>>587814294
People aren't in non sonic fandoms to notice their autism
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>>587814369
>hey this is ooc isnt it?
>HAHAHA STHG BROKE!!!
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>>587814181
>It wasn't known at the time
I was there. We knew damn well Sonic Team's opinion on Sonic having a girlfriend. That Naka interview was on a Sega website and written in english for crying out loud. It wasn't a surprise that the very moment Sonic Team got direct oversight on the comic the romance plots were eliminated.

That isn't even the problem here. I don't care about if Archie was accurate. That particular Sallyfag actually thinks in 2026 that Ian Flynn is a psychotic Sonamy fan who intentionally created the notion that Game Sonic is a different characterization from Archie Sonic.
That is insanity in its own right. That person is not well.
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>>587814369
You underestimate. a single 64kb svg might be capable of breaking or 3 people
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Imagine getting paid shitbux just to dunk on the chuds everyday.
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>>587814453
sounds like a dream job
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>>587814453
I'm paid more as a shop assistant to say nigger on the internet.
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https://x.com/search?q=from%3AUnite4Sally%20ian%20flynn&src=typed_query

Jesus Christ. Did anyone tell this guy Ian was the thing keeping Sonally alive??
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>>587814416
Then they didn't know about this. or they didn't take that information seriously. considering how invested sonamyfags and other sonic shippers are to their ship as well
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>>587814337
i didnt say that wanting more things is bad
it's just the fact there was some monopoly with idw and competition for them isn't some motivational factor, they are just scared boc will be better
i want idw and boc to exist, but i won't buy any idw comic until it won't be gay
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Great now I feel bad for Ian and I literally hate Archie
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>Sonic looks at you like this
What do
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You guys are forgetting that shippers are so fucking blind that they cannot comprehend that their shipping is wrong. They literally can't imagine it. Their brains don't have the organic materials to deduce that the characters in their ship are not in love. They are broken people.

These people are actually insane. They have something wrong with them that ruined the way they read fiction.
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*hides your post*
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Ian is a yurifaggot like epstein so i have no empathy for his kike ass trying to scam trannies in a podcast.
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>>587814853
I would assume it's Mimic, cause I'm not one of Sonic's friends.
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>>587813498
Yes and he also wouldn't live for himself if he dated your waifu.
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>>587814868
>Just because they're married doesn't mean the ship is canon
I am so thankful I'm not a digimon fan
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>>587814098
Seethe lettuce
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>"Ian killed sonally because he's a sonamyfag"
>"Ian killed sonamy because he's a sonallyfag."
>"Ian killed sonamy because he's sonazefag."
>"Ian killed sonaze because he's silvazefag."
>"Ian killed douge because he's a knuxougefag."
>"Ian killed knuxouge because he's dougebag."
>"Ian killed because he's"
Geez, it's almost if Ian is just a convenient scapegoat for shippers?
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>>587815003
I think their point is that taiora is supposedly ''better'' even if its not canon
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>>587814868
truth nvke...
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You're Worth a Chance...
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>>587815089
sonicfags, specially the shippers, are in constant need of a scapegoat
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>>587815089
>killed sonally
>killed sonamy
So Ian is based and windpilled
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>>587815089
I don't think ian is a shipfag himself but he has the habit of pandering to fanbase which sometimes includes shipbaiting various things
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>>587815089
It really does always come back around to shipping bullshit, doesn't it?
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>>587815163
This is more like PeterJean than Sonurge is
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>>587814868
What a retarded example. Do you think Digimon's canon ships are good writing??
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And remember little chao, never trust the jews!
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>>587815343
Yes
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>>587814981
Im not like you bud i dont only think in ship terms
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Reminder that Sega fears Sara because her existence proves that humans and mobians can interbreed.
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We are not defending the ending of Digimon in this fucking Sonic general
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>>587815119
Are those random Rings or the linked up Ring from Chaotix?
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>>587815404
Only one person keeps bringing it up.
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>>587815386
Then there's no reason to hate his dedication to Maria's wish.
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Shadria fag is always trying to reduce Shadow to one character trait
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>>587815401
Remember when nekomimis were popular?
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>>587815163
Why not use that lyric with Shahra
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>>587815525
The only reason I have to bring it up is because you keep denying it's a thing. Stop crying about Shadow's characterization and character motivation and it'll be brought up less.
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>>587815404
Which ending to Digimon?
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>>587815469
I think regression is a reason but ok
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>>587815592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMe1cylKuBw
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>>587815634
GO BACK TO YOUR GENERAL
THE ENDING OF DIGIMON IS BULLSHIT

YOU DON'T WRITE THE MAIN CHARACTER ASKING THE GIRL OUT AND THEN GETTING REJECTED BECAUSE SHE WANTS HIS RIVAL INSTEAD THAT'S JUST BULLSHIT
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>>587815634
I think Adventure zero two. They should've just not show the future part and everyone would've been much happier.
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>>587815714
Ken Penders go brrrrr
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>>587815592
They never stopped. Uma Musume alone, bro.
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>>587815645
But that screenshot is from the 2010s. https://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Modern_Style_Guide
It isn't regression. You can't actually name a time in the franchise where it wasn't a thing. It's mentioned from 2006 - 2008. It's mentioned in the 2010s.
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>>587815781
WE NEED MORE SEMI-ANTHROS too much furry stuff
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What are the odds both Ken Penders and Yuji Naka both worked on Digimon and Sonic
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>check Randomfox blog
>Defending the ending of digimon 02
Hey
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>>587815714
To be fair he doesn't ask him out in the og japanese version.
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>>587815817
Yes mentioned in everything but the games yes Lego and tsr totally btfo that Maria doesnt come up in 06 or Rivals/2 or Colors DS or the original Gens or Forces but it definitely makes sense that its brought up in Crossworlds and Fortnite and Dc blah blah youre a fraud
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>>587815817
Shadria fags actually think their shit is canon unironically
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>>587816128
Shadow wasn't in the games for the "meta era"
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>>587816139
Maria's memory has been Shadow's purpose since 2001. You're angry you can't self insert. I'm sorry. Maybe you should find a different character.
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>>587816237
I dont use made up terms like that. Shadow was in literally all of them except Lost World
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>>587815401
I thought it was the manga groupies, but their animal features are clearly costumes if you look at some other panels.
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>>587814092
>>587814294
It took me less than 30 seconds to find Spider-man fans seething at each other over character accuracy. It isn't just a Sonic thing.
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>Rouge can easily carry around another mobian and a walking arsenal badnik
>visibly struggles to carry around Sonic
What the fuck are in those chili dogs? Why is he so fucking fat?
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>>587816330
And his bios mention Maria's wish.
You're simply too caught up in shipping. You're the male equivalent of a millenial Amy self-inserter who tries to deny that Amy's dedication to Sonic is her fuel.
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>>587816403
Shes squinting at the distance not the weight
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>>587816403
Rouge can't carry anyone for a long time.
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Kill every namefag (me included).
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>>587816447
You're the one caught in shipping. You let Shadria override the whole character and then claim that it is the character. Shadow's bio in 2011 Gens IN-GAME does not mention Maria
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>>587816353
Okay, then my theory that autism is just the default state of humans has more evidence. Or maybe whiny morons just yell way louder, and normal people rightly don't give a shit about this.
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>>587816510
please don't
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>>587816302
I want Shadow to move on
>>587816447
Shadria fags are so delusional they think everyone else is the shipfags
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>>587815401
>>587816403
whats up with this m*bians shit can you fuck off already
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>>587816353
Spider Man fans are just Sonic fans with even more autism
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>>587816403
He isn't a sackful of gemstones
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>>587816449
It very much looks like she's physically exerting herself to haul Sonic's fat ass away.

>>587816502
Heroes. And yes, I know that implies that Tails, Cream, and Charmy also have super strength.
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>>587816569
It says he has a strong sense of purpose. That purpose is clear. You get mad about "Mariadow", but the only reason she needs to be brought up is because you genuinely have the memory of a goldfish and will claim he doesn't give a damn about her wish anymore the second it isn't said out loud. You're who Kishimoto was referring to when he said that Americans have trouble reading in between the lines. That's why they make these characters verbalize and express everything nowadays, if they don't say it to you directly, you will miss it.
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>>587816403
why do archie fags keep trying to sneak mobians
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>>587816893
>>587816624
sonamy is ooc crackship. it's so ooc you have to turn sonic into hellokitty to work
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>>587816612
I don't. I like Shadow's character the way it is. I like Shadow in SA2, Battle, Heroes, ShtH, '06, X, Gens, JBH, and BoC. I like Shadow.
You don't like Shadow. That's why you need him to change.
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>>587816624
It's a forced meme, all it means is "earthling" or "martian" i.e.'inhabitant of Mobius' and it literally was only used in Archie.
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Tails!!!!
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>>587816863
Kishimoto is a shitty writer. Shadow moved on from Maria at the end of 05. Shadow doesn't live for himself anymore because the movies retcon him for Maria. You won't listen to reason because you're sub 100 IQ. Shadow's character was supposed to move on. He is more interesting when he's his own guy instead of Maria's lapdog. You just want him to serve Maria forever because you think he can't love anyone else. You like the idea of him being devoted to Maria forever because you're a shipper self inserting as Maria. You think you're better just because recent media gives you Maria shit. You are making Shadow OOC on purpose and claiming to be the expert.
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>"Oh god, I need something to bitch about, but the Archie discussion ended! Uh..."
>someone mentions the word 'mobian'
>"Oh thank god. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ARCHIEEEEEE IAN WHY DID YOU RAPE ME AND MY CAT???"
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Archie and IDW fags should make love
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Tails the MVP
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>>587817134
Some of us actually like Sonic
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>>587817087
Shadow isn't Vegeta. You are a shitstirring shipfag who got laughed out of /dbs/. You're convinced Shadow is Vegeta and that Rouge is Bulma. None of these characters will ever officially date, and you will never have the Shadow you want because he was never a thing.
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>>587816958
what about ShadGens
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>>587816749
No it doesnt look like that shes looking in the distance
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>>587817243
That's partially what I meant by Gens, since Shadgens takes place during Gens. I wish it had a different writer and they hadn't retconned Maria's illness, but Shadow is a cool lone badass (especially in JP), so I'm satisfied.
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>>587816863
>will claim he doesn't give a damn about her wish anymore the second it isn't said out loud
No, i say that from the ending of his own game before movie synergy caused his regression
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>>587817219
And yet despite your alleged love of the games, you never actually talk about them, you just complain about a dead comic book all day.
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>>587817458
Cope
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>>587817134
Its shitty to use Mobian outside of the proper context. They arent fucking Mobians in main canon
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Silver is Uwu
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>>587817423
They didnt retcon Maria's illness Maekawa invented low gravity himself
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what a strange melty
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She loves him so much it's heartwarming. Reminds me of Lucy and David near the end of Edgerunners.
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morning /sthg/
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>>587817686
it's 6pm
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>>587817073
Hi :3
Our boy is the best!!!!!!!
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>>587817226
You created a head canon. You think Shadow can only love Maria and you lied to the whole general saying that Shadow and Maria aren't siblings.
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Tails is such a cute little boy bros...
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>>587817506
Your pissant autism doesn't care about linguistic inertia. Mobian has been used as the generic terms for these creatures for decades. There is no official name for the species in the games, so you're stuck with it. The fact that you even get pissy about the use of a word is just sad.
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>>587817792
>the species
holy archieshitter
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>>587817776
Indeed! I love him!
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>>587812438
I liked this dude far more when Maria was his motivation for revenge and to be badass as shit. You make him sound like he's just a depressed faggot now which is not really what he is after like StH.
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>>587817560
Where
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>>587817727
Hello!!

I agree

>>587817870
<33333
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>>587817720
Burger hours
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OGILVIE MAURICE "SONIC" THE HEDGEHOG IS A MOBIAN BORN IN THE PLANET MOBIUS
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>>587817739
Nobody cares bulmafag
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Sonic Team should turn the series into RPG at this point if the only thing people care to discuss anymore are the story and characters. It's not like most RPG fans care about the gameplay either
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>>587817849
See, there you go. ANY vague excuse. You have nothing. And don't think I didn't notice how you dodged the point about how you never talk about the games, lying ass bitch. You're the one who doesn't like Sonic.
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>>587817792
>the species
Because they arent a uniform species Archieshitter. People have incorrectly called them that for decades, that doesn't mean wrong is wrong. Humans are literally fucking Mobians too in those continuities. Fuck off
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>>587817934
^-^ :D
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>>587817965
Well when you try thaaat hard people wont care
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>>587817982
The Adventure critters look too weird. I much prefer the classic ones. The Adventure ones look like those plush toys of animals that have large eyes and glitter and stuff
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>>587818047
>See, there you go. ANY vague excuse.
Because I prefer the games instead of your Archie headcanons and now you're seething
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>>587817965
AAAAAAAAACK TRVKE!!! I KNEEEL!!!!
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>>587818067
>Humans are literally fucking Mobians too in those continuities.
No they're not. Humans were originally called overlanders before eventually being called humans because sorta convoluted lore and also fuck it.

>MUH ARCHIE
Keep going. All you prove is that the dead comic book that you clearly haven't read lives in your head rent free.
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>>587817226
>None of these characters will ever officially date
Which makes things worse for your case actually. Because we know not even Sonic and Amy will date officially, let alone a dead human and a hedgehog, we are left with only their interactions to fill the gaps. Shadow did far more for Rouge during the Crossworlds animation than Sonic did for Amy or any of his friends btw.
>muh ally
Shadow gained nothing from helping Rouge during that race and in fact, it set him back, that's not an "ally" that he is using for his benefit. He was in 2nd place already when he saved Rouge from Eggman and Sage, yet he forfeits his place momentarily to get her out of harms way.
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I feel like I didn't fully enjoy the short the first time I watched it. I like it, but I would have enjoyed it more if the past 15 years weren't already all about "remembering the past"

>>587818018
>It's not like most RPG fans care about the gameplay
I don't think this is true
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Shadouge is Archieshit
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>>587818047
Shadow will never love Rouge
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>>587818207
Then talk about the games. You're even dodging the fact you won't talk about them right now. You love the games so much, fucking talk about them. But you can't. Because you don't like Sonic.
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>>587815440
>Modern Charmy

They are random rings.
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>>587817901
Shadow *was* depressed/hopeless until he was able to channel that depression into purpose and drive. That's why he is badass in 06.
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>>587818326
Animation itself was kinda mid, just more impact frames and super fast nonsense
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>>587818018
There's like 10 years where Sonic gameplay was so shallow you only had to click a button and mindlessly reach the finish. What's there to discuss about that?
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>>587818364
Archie is OOC and one of its writers is ruining the games
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>all this desperate deflection
>"gamesfags" will do anything but talk about the games they allegedly love so much
The true secondaries were the gameshitters the whole time. Wow.
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>>587818319
I never want Shadow and Maria to date. I don't want her to be revived. I like the romantic undertones, but it works because it's an undertone. Shadow's bond with Maria is strong, nebulous, and beautiful. You think I want them to date because you think sex is the only way to love.
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Which Motoko is the better one
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>>587818363
He already cares more about Rouge than Sonic does about Tails and Amy as seen in the Crossworlds animation LOL.
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>>587818254
>humans were called
Everyone who lives on Mobius is a Mobian. No matter when overlanders were used or dropped as a term, humans are mobians through and through. You have to ignore the lore to disagree. Not just in Archie. Aosth eggman is a mobian. Queen Aleena is a mobian.
No game character is a mobian. You have to be baiting atp
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>>587818549
You were bragging about finding Shadria porn
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>>587818561
Shadow didn't even look at rouge in Memories and Beyond. Chadckles tried to save her
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Simple characters are truly the best
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>>587818439
There wasn't that much of it. I was expecting the whole thing to just be one big fight, but the fighting was minimal compared to what I expected. The Tails flashback was cute

>>587818513
I'm ready to install Marathon recomp later
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>>587818554
Both are good. Personally, I'm biased cause the version of GiTS I engaged with the most was Stand Alone Complex.
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>>587818554
This isnt sonic why should i care
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Shadougeschizo...
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>>587818614
I think it's cute he likes his OCs kissing. That doesn't mean I want it to be 100% canon. Maria is Shadow's compass, not his fucktoy.
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>>587818674
He's been glazing Archiedow for days straight
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Poopdickschizo...
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Shadow peaked in SA2
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>>587818554
Classic Ghost in the shell is basically satam. It's a cult classic that is far less accurate to the source material compared to the reboot
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>>587818549
Then that is correct. However the loss of the most important person in your life doesn't necessarily mean you will lock yourself away forever. Shadow has already shown signs of him doing far more than needed for Rouge so that definitely puts her above anyone that isn't Maria.
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>>587818615
>tried to save her
Was he? Everyone was just taking turns on metal.
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>>587818581
Show me a page from Archie where Eggman is called a Mobian.

Also, are the little animal friends called Mobini?
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Sonamy is ooc crackship for psychotic women and lonely simps who turn sonic into a vulnerable shyboy who needs huggies and goes on dates
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>>587818847
It doesnt matter that the comic wouldnt call him that. He is from mobius. He is a mobian
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<3333333333
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Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge.
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Mobian is so stupid and disgusting.
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>>587818153
I don't like the Adventure critter design either, but the one thing I do like about them is that they have a secondary gameplay function, for once...
Actually, come to think of it, that's probably exactly why the Adventure animals are different: Classic animal parts probably don't look as good on Chao as "plushie"-looking features.
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>>587818892
(:
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>>587818891
>Dogs and humans are both Earthlings

Ok Area52anon. lol
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>>587818615
I think trying to fight the Super in a meaningful way matters more at the moment than any personal relationship. Knuckles with his stupidity didn't even manage to buy time.
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>>587818847
>>587818891
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>sonallyfags turning sonic into a horny teen jock self insert
>sonamyfags turning sonic into a cuddly himbo retriever superman
I don't know which side I hate more. I think I want all of them to die.
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>>587818965
>forfeits second place to save her
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>>587818990
>but the one thing I do like about them is that they have a secondary gameplay function, for once...
That's a good trade off

>Actually, come to think of it, that's probably exactly why the Adventure animals are different: Classic animal parts probably don't look as good on Chao as "plushie"-looking features.
Yeah especially since Chao are based on tamagotchi toys

>>587819009
One day shipfags will kneel to the true ship
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What is the point of shipping if all characterization is shit nowadays.
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THEY SAY THAT LOVE IS FOREVER
YOUR FOREVER IS ALL THAT I NEEEEEEEEED
PLEASE STAAAAAAY
AS LONG AS YOU NEEEEEED
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>>587818807
You're delusional. You think Shadow has zero value outside of being Rouge's dildo. Did you even read Jet Black Hedgehog? Quick, what's chapter 3 of that manga about?
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Sonamy is still shit
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>>587819239
Because the characterization used to be shit in different ways before and fans can't cope with change.
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That shatouge fag made me hate his ship by insulting knux and maria. shatouge is a bad ship because it can't function without disrespecting 4 different characters at once. I used to post 100s of shadouge pics here a few years ago then bulmafag ruined it so i never upload the pics now
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>>587819239
The only good shipping I've ever seen is from points of divergence from when it wasn't shit.
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>>587819450
its about jet and a black hedgehog duh
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>>587819587
You didn't read it. Concession accepted. I care about Shadow content and you don't unless Rouge is chained to him.
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>>587818153
>>587818990
I like both and I also like the Chao Garden and gameplay integration, I just want to say the Wisps are a cool spin on this concept

>>587819217
Yeah!
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>>587819567
Same sort of. I didn't post much art but I used to save a lot of what I saw. Now I don't even bother. It sucks when someone is so bad he ruins neat concepts just by association.
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>>587818847
>>587819076
This is a lot of words because 'tism-tickler Ian Flynn wrote this but basically Mobian = of Mobius.
(To be more specific, Mobian=sapient creatures that arose after Earth's Xorda-bombing; technically the old humans from before this event aren't Mobians, but the Overlanders (post-mutant-bomb humans) are.)
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>/sthg/ ONLY cares about shipping
...
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>Japanese term
>From a ST game
>From one of the most lore and continuity heavy ST game of the 00s (peak ST era)
>That is also closest thing to a direct sequel to SA2

Why didn't "nermies" catch on with the fanbase like Mobian and Blobian did?
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Isn't it weird how the level title cards in Sonic 2 8-bit show Tails alongside Sonic, even though the story is about Sonic rescuing Tails from Eggman? Maybe very early on they wanted to have Tails follow Sonic just like in the Genesis version but the hardware limitations of the Game Gear didn't allow that so they had to change the story
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>>587819450
>You think Shadow has zero value outside of being Rouge's dildo
What the fuck are you even talking about? It seems like you are projecting your beliefs right now since it's evident that regardless of what you are typing you only see Shadow as a corpse's dildo.
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"Shadow and Rouge aren't friends." - Sega
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>>587819789
I can respect that Archie wanted to be this like, idk what youd call it, Tolkien or Star Wars level world? But I just hate when archie fans cant contain that to their continuity and "mobians" is exhibit A
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>>587820026
True
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>>587819961
because it's a typo of enemies retard
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>>587819087
>Sonazefags don't want to change Sonic
Wins by default.
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>>587819789
>However, "Mobian" has come to refer specifically to the anthropomorphic sentient beings.
It's the third sentence, bruh.
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>>587820007
I don't want them to fuck. You're such a loser you can only comprehend sex
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>>587819897
This dude only draws Sonic characters posing awkwardly next to each other.
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>>587819450
You do know Jet Black Hedgehof isnt canon right? This is like citing Sonic X...
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>>587819789
I hate the stupid tiny huts. The reason they lived in those huts in SatAM was because Robotnik forced them out of the city. In Archie they just do it to call back to SatAM.
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>>587819567
>>587819730
Krack you don't have you reply to yourself to make your point.
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>>587820007
Imagine being a 40 year old virgin.
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Goybians have gone insane
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>>587820026
>"Shadow does consider Rouge and Omega to be his friends though." - also Sega
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>>587820168
You never read it because you don't like Shadow
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>>587820140
>I don't want them to fuck
You do. You literally gave yourself away with your last post. Be serious.
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>>587819730
>>587819567
>im such a pussy that some outsider ruins a thing i like and i can no longer like it now
???
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Why aren't you discussing Surge's fatass?
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>>587820156
I love him
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Animals, seeds, Chaos Drives, Light Cores, Chaos Orbs, Wisps
Which one is best? I think Wisps are my favorite

>>587819962
That would make sense
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>>587820248
What is this supposed to be
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>>587820289
It's hilarious to see someone defend non canon material yet disregard 06 events. 06 at least Sonic remembers it.
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WHITEBOARD
https://magma.com/d/KfUWMa8ecx#vRQNADUUJ08M-F_h-AAAAAAA
https://magma.com/d/KfUWMa8ecx#vRQNADUUJ08M-F_h-AAAAAAA
https://magma.com/d/KfUWMa8ecx#vRQNADUUJ08M-F_h-AAAAAAA
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>>587819789
Thanks for the source, but yeah that's basically saying: "dogs and humans are both Earthlings"
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>>587820289
So I guess you hate Cosmo if you never watched Sonic X
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>>587820414
Surge is a tsundere for Sonic. He likes chasing her for adventures.
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>>587819865
Mostly male board btw
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>>587820414
I'm thinking about Drago
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>>587820475
>ocboard
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>>587811889
Having low standards is not a good thing.
The games after SA2 are dogshit and always will.
Same with the 10s and 20s ones.
You ruined Sonic forever, fake fan.
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>>587820238
idk what you are talking about but i do remember being recorded evidence of someone throwing their mom off the stairs over their deluded ship.
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>>587820450
You're forgetting Knuckles' Chaotix weird artificial battery rings

If Eggman discovered these batteries for his robots then why does he keep capturing animals????

Anyways I like wisps too
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>>587820119
Because Flynn can't help but tickle the 'tisms, yes we established that.
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>>587820026
Meanwhile in Korea...
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Uh oh Lettuce Slashy drama fagging
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Maybe if jap niggers could develop a good game in decades.
Imagine getting mogged by romhack of all things.
Embarrassing.
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>>587820878
What is this supposed to be?
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>>587820951
Pretentious drawing of everythingfaggotry
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>>587820674
I didn't ruin anything, having fun playing video games is not "having low standards". I also like Colors and Frontiers, feel free to cry over that as well. No, me liking something you don't like doesn't mean I like everything or will "accept" everything
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>>587820475
If it's Silver birthday you should draw something Silver related, it's the norm
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>>587820992
Yeah but i still dunno what its supposed to be
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Someone's mad
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>>587821021
You are not better than gta vi normalniggers.
Die.
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>>587821050
All of Eggman's creations and family members throughout every iteration of Sonic in a single canva I guess
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>>587820804
>"No, I'm not wrong! Ian Flynn is Satan!"
Let it go.
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>>587820789
>why does he keep capturing animals????

Didn't he (kinda) stop using animals after SA1? At least as far as the 3D sonic games are concerned.
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>>587820853
What does it say?
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>>587821158
They leave out a lot like Mama Robotnik and Morpho/Steve Eggman
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>>587820789
I didn't forget, I actually didn't know about that. I don't know much about the games I haven't played
Anyway I wondered this a long time ago, because I was upset Heroes and other later games didn't have animals, but then I realized Metal Sonic and Zero don't use animals either, so I gave up on that. He must have other power sources and for some reason he likes to use animals/Wisps/Chaos Orbs (those have literally zero lore lol)
Also what's up with his robots in 2006 using Chaos Drives... Those are GUN robots in every way, did they change plans at some point in development?

>>587821153
I don't care about GTA. I don't feel threatened by people enjoying that game
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>>587820118
It's both Sonally and Sonamy with none of the good parts
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>>587820931
Seriously. If SoJ cares so much about the "integrity" of Sonic, why the fuck do they need westerns to do everything for them? And yes, it would help if the games were actually good. No wonder game secondaries avoid talking about them.
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>>587821247
>Shadow on Rouge
*Fantastic Chemistry*
Rouge
a capable business partner that facilitates
smooth communication.

>Rouge on Shadow
*Fantastic Chemistry*
Shadow
the best business partner who perfectly executes even unreasonable requests
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Stop having a melty
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>>587821182
He used them in SA2, all the Dimps games, Colors (are Wisps animals?), and Lost World
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>>587821172
???
>Overlanders are technically Mobians themselves. If Sonic is a “Mobian hedgehog,” then an Overlander is a “Mobian human.”
Kyle, I don't know gow else to say how plain as day that is, not my fault the text trips over itself in an atempt to satisfy fandom camps, tell Ian he needs an editor.
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>>587806180
>can do anything
https://youtu.be/mjteXqRbGN0
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>>587821516
To be fair, it's business partners, not friends
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>>587821549
Now this art is pretty good
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>>587820853
>>587821516
What do the Sonic and Knuckles ones say?
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>>587821638
I Can Do Anything appears as a quote in a couple manuals before or around this time so it does seem like an important quote to classic. I liked how Ray said it in the 35th anni comic as well
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>>587821718
They suck each others off
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>>587821695
How did saving Rouge twice progress Shadow's business during the race though?
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>>587821696
For a guy called Shadally Scribbles he sure doesn't draw much Shadally...
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>>587821810
CnC
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Tough boy!

>>587821905
This is awesome lol
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It seems Krack the Knuxria shitposter has left I haven't been seeing posts blatantly replying to themselves for like half an hour.
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>>587820118
Sonazefags see sonic only as a dildo to either fuck their waifu or fuck themselves by self inserting agps
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>>587821718
>Shadow on Sonic
*Chemistry Snapshot*
Sonic
achieves results in a way that’s the complete opposite of mine—I don’t like it.

>Rouge on Knuckles
*Chemistry Snapshot*
Knuckles
annoyed by his rough, inflexible and simple appearance.
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>>587822037
She's the one shitting on Shadouge and Shadamy 24/7 since last week
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>>587821957
Knuckles sits in the master emerald all day to have his ass always hard and tight for Sonic
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>>587820445
>tfw no biolizard gf
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>>587815247
Then where do the yurifag accusations come from?
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>>587822131
Shadamy deserves to be shat on what is this falseflagging
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Silverfags deserve nothing.
Creamfags deserve less

Blazefags deserves misery.
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Rouge is cute. CUTE!
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-Fantastic Chemistry: Tails — A partner who understands your heart most perfectly.
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Close enough
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>>587822165
Hi krack
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>>587815667
Make some damn new renders already.
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>>587806925
In Colors DS, it was to meet Silver.

In IDW was because Ian wanted yo use her. That's it.
Youre trying to treat this as a logistics issue when it isn't.
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>>587821793
>I Can Do Anything appears as a quote in a couple manuals before or around this time
Proof?
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>>587822185
The true Sonic ship
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>>587822264
The lighting is so ugly
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>the resident femme fatale
>really easy to make her cute
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>>587816953
Rent free
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>>587822268
Therefore those entries opened the floodgates to make any excuse. So there's no "oh we cant use her"
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Meanver
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>>587822385
:D
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>>587819789
My read into this is..less that mobian is the equivalent of the word "earthling" and more like Mobius is "mutant-earth" and everyone of comparable intelligence is now part of the same DNA-soup to the point they're somehow biologically compatible so they're just colloquially addressed under the banner of mobian. Which ties directly into the Archie-specific backstory of Mobius and so the term can't be used in other media. Hell it's not even used outside of Archie. It's literally just certain entities astroturfing this and probably hoping some unmandated Sega person uses it accidentally out of ignorance so it doesn't become wrong to use.
..Is it possible mobian is an Archie trademark?
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Canon btw
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You can't go much further than Sonails sorry
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>>587822295
Triple Trouble
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>>587822460
Rude
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>>587822172
>CW's Sonic 2 port puts the entrance to Hidden Palace Zone in the infamous Mystic Cave death pit
>Archie adapts it for their story too
OK that was kino
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I think her trying so hard for him to try to interact with others is so cute. I would have given up on the edgy faggotry long ago myself.
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>>587822704
Itd be funny if this gem immediately shattered to match the game one's fragility
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>>587807307
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Kino duo!!!!
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Can a female not act like a mom for 2 seconds?
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>>587823015
Would help if Amy sounded younger.
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An existing softboy/femboy type character being newly made could be interesting but people will just ant the existing popular ones to conform to that mold anyway
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Damn, voice acting went to shit
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>>587823076
Ahem
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>>587823184
Too much nerdspeak in metaish era ruined that appeal but maybe
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>>587819961
Let me remind you,
>this crunched texture is all the material it has
I do wish it became canon since Sonic Team is apparently on their "why not, whatever gaijin" arc, just because it's funny to me that it pisses Ian off that it's not Mobian for some reason.
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>>
I think a bigger problem with the Sonic 2006 robot designs, on top of not looking like something Eggman would build, is that they don't look distinct from one another and don't communicate how they function gameplay wise. I have a hard time telling them apart while playing, and that's a problem because each robot behaves differently and you need to attack or defend yourself in different ways depending on what robot it is or when/where not to attack. Their projectiles also look too small, the blue ones are especially bad because they look too similar to Light Cores/Chaos Drives (I can't tell those two apart either). If I pay heavy attention and try to remember where each robot is, it's less of a problem, but I shouldn't have to do that. Enemy behavior is immediately clear in Sonic 1 when you see their designs and how they move. I think this is a bigger issue than some glitches

>>587822873
Yeah!
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>>587823309
The Christmas with Tails...
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>>587822873
Yes!
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>>587823238
He doesn't do it that often and it's not a problem anyways
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>>587823481
two retards
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AnonxKrack to stop her from shitposting is the best ship.
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>>587823584
They're very smart actually!
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>>587810442
>Tangle is someone who is Sonicpilled but isn't Sonic. Those Western ideas where writers want to punish Sonic (Prime, Lost World) can work on Tangle. They can work on Charmy more but Tangle can grow more than Charmy would be allowed to so
This sounds good on paper, but its kind if what they are already doing and no one really cares because she isnt the main character. Which is really the only reason people insist on doing those things with Sonic.
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>>587823684
A krack bukkake??
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>>587823289
>Spoilers

Wouldn't ST doing that be the opposite tho?
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>>587823714
I want my heroes to be mentally handicapped otherweise i don't feel representrespend.
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>>587810485
"JPfags" are just reacting to a real phenomenon.
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Marathon recompiled releases in 1 hour!
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>drawings suddenly stop in 2024
They must have got him
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz4atfBfcw8
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>>587823015
>>587823063
I want to make Amy a mother.
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>>587824246
Cute!
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>>587811889
It's a deflection tactic. They can go "06 bad game glitchy" or whatever because of the unfair reputation the games got in the past. They themselves havent played the games and dont care to. They are fandomites from /co/franchises.
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>>587805213
Looking back, I like SonElise conceptually. Sonic is treated more as Elise's muse for everything she lacks, has been denied since her father's death forced her to really accelerate on taking Soleanna's throne, or can't allow herself to have because of Iblis:
>Liberty to act and express as one pleases without expectation, judgment, or consequence
>Freedom to go anywhere, meet anyone, spend however much time with them as one likes
>The lack of pressure (as duchess-to-be, or the last line of defense preventing the apocalypse) to enjoy small things in life, like rolling in the grass and jogging to leave your troubles behind
>The easygoing-yet-focused confidence to face adversity with a smile, concentrating entirely on what's in front without doubting yourself or dwelling on prior mishaps
SonElise's appeal, to me, is about a guy who enjoys life with such zest it's infectious. His presence helps a girl repressing herself to start coming out of her shell rather than remain stagnant simply because it's safer - it's probably why they went with the "Sonic & Elise bond, Sonic dies, Elise revives him with a kiss" plotline, it's symbolic of the fact Sonic helped Elise actually start LIVING, and she returns the favor.

I genuinely think the Sonic's Story ending with Elise teasingly echoes back his advice about running first and worrying later amidst a collapsing Egg Carrier (contrast their first meeting, when she panicked at Eggman shooting missiles at them), them nearly not making it before being blasted to safety by the ship exploding and tumbling around in the dirt, Sonic casually helping her up and her cracking up over ridiculously lucky they got, is one of the best scenes involving Elise in the game. If there was any potential for her, it lied there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENqYJRJztls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xqQB9UwkVg
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>>587824470
That's sad
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CW Decal art
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>>587823885
Marathon?
The Bungie game?
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>>587812248
>misses the entire point of having multiple media of a concept.
The point of having multimedia is to adapt it to different forms to reach a more of an audience in hopes they come towards the core product.

If your media is completely different, you create a fractures base that dont do this.
The proof is in the fact youre makong this inane argument at all just to defend your off-brand media to begin with.
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Another one.
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>>587824471
This is also why i like Elise being a human after thiking about it, He is like a spirit ''wind'' that appears when she needs her, but must daisappear when it's over.
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>>587805632
2 DAYS >
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>>587812429
>batman
Yes people dislike that
>tmnt
Its like Spiderman where they just reboot it over and over in a different form.

These arent comparable.
IDW and Prime and M&B are supposed to be the Sonic from the games.
So yes people expect it to be game accurate. Notice how people, while critical of the movies, are more tolerant and accepting of deviation?
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>>587812429
First of all, people DO get mad at different Spider-man and Batman for being OOC. Second almost every Batman in the last 40 years is based on the same version
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>>587820475
Someone draw a cute Elise please.
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>>587813323
>this is just how things are
I cant believe you said thos eith a straight face lmao
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If Sonic is supposedly the only soul who remembers '06 then when does he reference events from it?
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>>587808460
Gotta he honest, archie eggman being basically hitler, but having a goofy personality was the reason I enjoyed archie so much.
People bitch about Flynn all the time, but boy, almost all his archie entire run was amazing, too bad his writing started to suffer when the whole penders legal fiasco invaded archie, changing stories pacing, and even losing characters that were important to the plot, in the las preeboot run, like the echidnas.
I will die defending editor Paul kaminski idea of 4 issue arcs was actually good for pacing, we had interesting fun arcs in that era, specially in sonic universe.
Kinda funny knowing when reboot stopped world building and were actually getting somewhere fun and interesting, the book got axed.

Don't know why people here hate alternate side media, with the exception
Of underground, I almost love everything regarding sonic.
Of course the games are above everything else, but still, I enjoy a lot of things.
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>>587824471
It works in the sense of her being in love with Sonic since he's so much cooler than her. Elise herself just needed a bit more to her character to round her out (and a rewrite of Sonic's story to give her a bit more of a dynamic role). Best comparison I can think of is Yuna and Tidus in Final Fantasy 10.
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>>587824471
Yep, you get it. Elise's story is pretty good, and a great show of Sonic's character. Something you didn't mention is also that her story involves accepting Sonic won't be there with her forever and won't be in a relationship with her, at the end of the game he leaves her and she has to accept it to save the world, but the life lesson she got from him remains with her. I also think the finale implies that the king of Soleanna never died in the first place, since he didn't have Iblis to experiment on, which also ties back into the theme of reviving life that's present all throughout her story

>why they went with the "Sonic & Elise bond, Sonic dies, Elise revives him with a kiss" plotline, it's symbolic of the fact Sonic helped Elise actually start LIVING, and she returns the favor.
Yep. Exactly. Listen to My Destiny
>You've taught me that life can be revived
>With a smiling face, the meaning of my destiny can be changed
This is also why people who say Elise should have cried to revive Sonic are completely wrong about everything and how I know they didn't put even the bare minimum thought into trying to follow and understand this story because that stupid rewrite is antithetical to the artistic vision of this story, on top of being antithetical to Sonic's character. Infact the whole reason this story is written like it is, is because of who Sonic is, and it is designed to showcase exactly that. Sonic doesn't like tears

>If there was any potential for her, it lied there.
There was and it was executed. Saying this story is bad just because it doesn't have enough badass action moments like Shadow is shallow
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>>587824130
He stopped to work on his game
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>>587824708
Sonic 2006, Marathon is its codename

>>587825167
TSR apparently
Blaze remembers too
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>>587824776
Good one
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>>587813507
That particular sallyfag, is far from being intelligent.
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>>587825507
I know...
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>>587825167
He doesn't remember, nobody does
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>>587825524
Blaze only has vague phantom memories rather than full on recalling
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06 doesn’t deserve to be remembered
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> TWO
> FUCKING
> HOURS
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>>587825673
Only 2h?
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>>587825614
Proof?

>>587825632
It does deserve to be remembered, it's a great game and it will forever be more remembered than you and anything you will ever do or make. Your irrational treatment of it will eventually disappear with you
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>>587814416
That is unfortunately a lot of Archie/Sallyfags tho. Especially when IDW was new. They mostly got chased out when issue 50 of IDW dropped and Sonic said windshit
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>>587825673
Isnt this the girl who says Shadow is feminine
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>>587825587
Mary Sue
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>>587825802
06 sucks pigshit and so do you
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Archie Sonic is not Sonic. But it's cool and is Sonic shaped.
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>>587825869
Isn't that Gary Stu?
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>Not a single memory from Heroes
>The last time Metal had any agency of his own
Bizarre, they could even use that cheesy scene where he asks them why he lost
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>>587825802
She doesn't immediately recognize silver or namedrop an event clearly in colors ds
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>>587825948
Is the same thing
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>>587825614
>>587825802 (Me)
Actually nevermind I don't need proof. It's because of Colors DS, right?

>>587825902
You will never be even half as good as this random mediocre game you've been obsessively seething at for decades
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>>587825802
>06
>great game
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>>587825961
Iizuka almost died working on Heroes, he doesn't want to remember that shit.
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>>587826005
Yeah I think it's great in many ways. I like the stage designs and story. Except Silver's, that one's pretty weak. The gameplay is also pretty fun, it doesn't stay as close to the peak as often as I'd like though
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>>587814868
https://youtu.be/owaFEiWpYE8?t=1329
Its just the millenial shipfoids mostly.
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>>587826119
Modernfags are a disgrace
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>>587826135
How did I know exactly what clip and timestamp this would be
Also all digimon shippers are fucking idiots
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XdN6GzeN7Y
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Rouge will do this for Shadow in Frontiers 2 btw.
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>>587825673
Man, how come the positive side of the fandom can make gorgeous art and writing, develop actual games, become actual part of sega, and contribute amazing things in general to this fandom,
And then you have this kind of stuff where they are the most miserable beings in the entire universe, making videos like that, but ironically wanking to sonic porn in general, making fan wars, and even sending hate mail and death threats, for a twisted sense of morality and how things should be according to them to people that actually positively contribute to this fandom? Is it envy, social justice warriors trying to feel moraly superior, people having hate and frustration on their hearts not knowing how to be functional? Or just plain full retardness.
Because sometimes I genuinely can't tell anymore with these kind of people.
X/twitter sonic is a good example.
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>>587826135
Nostalgia Critic mocking digishipfags butthurt was not on my bingo card
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>>587824470
>unfair reputation
Kek
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>>587815404
It was good and literally only americans complain about it.
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>>587826189
I don't know what that would mean, but Sonic 2 is one of my favorite Sonic games. I have a better time playing as Silver than Sonic 2's special stages. That's a huge chunk of the game, but I'm not going to hate the whole thing just because I don't like some parts of it
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Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
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>>587826408
No, he was correct. Most of the bullshit people like you love to say is false. I even used to believe you before I experienced the games for myself.
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DNF vs 06
The great debate
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>>587826285
I like this stage
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Sonic 06 is loved
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>>587826486
The game is just shit and people should stop trying to redeem or salvage it and just let it rest
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>>587814868
The only canon "ships" in Sonic are Sonamy, Shadouge and Knuxriem.
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>>587824130
He sometimes draws on the whiteboard.
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>>587817218
He was!
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>>587826289
A guy doing everything including killing himself for the wishes of his mom and girlfriend is very Shadow Maria coded
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>>587826631
DNF took over a decade to make, it has more in common with current AAA games rather than 06.
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>>587826742
Am I the only one that thought the thumbnail looked like Dialga and Palkia facing off against Giratina?
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>>587826862
Krack Shadow kissing Maria here would be like David kissing Gloria. They are dead.
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Maria is Shadow's Tania / Sonia
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>>587824470
Majority of 06 defenders nowadays come from people who don't like playing through Sonic games and only know the story through tiktok and twitter posts
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>>587826762
>The game is just shit
This is your opinion and you're free to have it. I disagree. I like the game and I will continue to enjoy it and talk about it as much as I please. There is nothing you can do to ever stop me. You will NEVER stop me.
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>>587826862
>for the wishes of his mom and girlfriend
Are you fucking stupid? Lucy had told that faggot to stop pumping chrome like years before that kiss happened this is nothing like Maria.
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>>587827195
Maria doesnt want Shadow to move on
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>>587827110
Another lie. You keep accusing people of this and then ignore when they all reply that they play the game already

The next goalpost becomes "it doesn't count because you didn't play on original hardware" (which you don't do for any other game), and then you ignore when people tell you they did play on original hardware
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>>587827126
You can like eating dogshit as much as you want I guess but don't go around trying to convince others it's actually great because you want to salvage it's reputation
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>>587826742
By retards
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>>587819567
Same
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>>587827110
Majority of 06 defenders are people that played 06 when they were 12.
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>shits on everything else sonic
>please don't shit sonic 06
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>>587806418
This is a good meme
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>>587825587
He should move on. :3
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>>587827351
First off, you're retarded for comparing playing a video game to eating shit. Second, no. I will always do whatever I want, for whatever reason I want, and you will never stop me. If I want to tell people they should eat shit, I will. In fact, I'll do it right now. Go eat shit, stupid bitch.
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>>587827556
This nigga eats literal shit
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>>587827405
I played it two years ago for the first time, I didn't even know it existed when I was 12. I was surprised by how much fun I had with it after everything people like you convinced me of
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>>587827556
06 is garbage. I'm sorry as an impressionable kid you got emotionally attached to it but the truth is the truth. This behavior of trying to legitimize this piece of crap game instead of leaving it in the past is what leads Sega to keep referencing that shit as if it was something worth remembering
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>>587827405
I, played it when I was 14, so fuck off.
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06 ruined everything, it’s your obligation as a Sonic fan to shit on it every chance you get. Do not yield
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>>587827798
Youtuber worshiper opinion
get your own ideas
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>>587827798
only archiefags hate 06
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>>587827670
I don't. I'm telling you to do it. Go eat shit.

>>587827726
>I'm sorry as an impressionable kid you got emotionally attached to it
See >>587827689

>instead of leaving it in the past
I don't want to leave it in the past. I played it earlier today and had a great time

>what leads Sega to keep referencing that shit as if it was something worth remembering
Good, I'll keep it up then

By the way, there is nothing wrong with playing a game as a kid. I also played games when I was a kid, and there were some I didn't like. I never understood this idea that you must like everything you played as a kid, I certainly didn't
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JP faggots be like: i love eating shit
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>>587827821
Why is Sonic doing that with his feet, but walking at the same pace as everyone else? Is he autistic?
Why is Antoine just watching Robotnik hurl a giant boulder at Sally, with his face registering as,
>"good, fucking do it"?
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>>587827252
>Maria is Eren
kek
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>Sonic
Amy, Sally, Elise
>Knuckles
Julie-Su, Sonia, Rouge
>Tails
Mina, Cosmo, Zooey...Honey, Cream, Wave...Li Moon, Marime, Victoria...
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>>587827353
And hated by morons
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>>587827958
I love eating kuso***
has to be japanese. otherwise it's westslop by gaijin pigs
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>>587828012
KEK
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>>587827798
Retards like you ruined everything
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Only subhumans born after 2000 think 06 is good
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>>587828170
I was born before 2000 and I think it's good. I played it on original hardware as an adult for the first time after you spent years convincing me it was the worst game ever made. Fuck off.
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>>587828039
>Cream out of nowhere
Cream has more of a chance to be in a relationship with Sonic, Knuckles, fucking Amy, than Tails.
>Erm the age difference-
I know, I'm saying Tails has nothing to do with Cream, other than Cream just usually outright being a stronger version of Tails in every game where you can play as either.
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>>587827883
Played the game opinion. It’s dog horse pig cat and hedgehog shit all rolled together. Kill yourself for trying to “but ackshually” this garbage that ruined the franchise’s reputation and sent it on a trajectory to hell.
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>>587828170
I also fucking Silver
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiIkqmjSFMg
>Marathon (Sonic '06) Recompiled | Release Trailer
Premiere starting now
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>>587828374
>muh reputation
So admitting this isnt actually about the game, its about journos making fun of your scrimblo
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06 captured the true personality of Amy
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>>587821793
>>587822571
It's in a many manuals actually.
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>Oh yeah, that happened
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>>587828409
Cuuuute
And canon
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>>587828450
They implicitly admit it all the time, especially when they say you shouldn't be allowed to prefer it over Frontiers, it's so pathetic
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>>587828365
Can't believe id defend taiream but tails and cream uniornically have more than sonic and cream as barebones it is
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>>587827689
Hey that fair, It's ok to like 06.

I just think a majority of the people who do defend it, do so because they experienced it when they were at their most open about Sonic, which is usually the case for their first Sonic game.

>>587827761
14 year olds are basically 12 year olds. At both 14 and 12 you are not even old enough to join the military and your brain doesn't fully develop until you are 25.
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I just edged for 12 hours straight into the morning, I'm feeling pretty fucking sick right now. If I see another tiddy I might vomit...
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>there’s legitimate 06 defenders
>people scream and piss their pants when Sonic shows any emotion
I’m done with this fanbase, you niggas actually deserve nothing
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>>587828483
So did SA1 and SA2. I wish that's how she was written nowadays
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>>587828170
>>587828381
*fucking love Silver
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>>587828563
trvke!
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>>587828624
Shut up Ian,
learn to write so your attempts at emotion aren't insanely jarring and inappropriate.
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Is Mania the only good Sonic game?
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I thought "Victoria" at the end tipped you off that it was a joke...
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>>587828602
>because they experienced it when they were at their most open about Sonic, which is usually the case for their first Sonic game.
I don't think that's the only or even the main determining factor to someone liking something. I was much more closed minded as a kid actually, I remember I used to be biased against SA2 and Heroes. I think I am more open minded than I've ever been before these past few years. I think a lot of people in this thread would benefit from that, especially those who have cutoff years for when they're not allowed to like things anymore
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06 would have probably been a good game if Iizuka directed it. 06 is the only 3D Dark Age game he didn't at least co-direct.
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>>587827110
In my experience, most 06 defenders specifically hate the narrative of "06 was fixed by ChaosX" and say they liked it all along.
But people will make up wild stories to deflect their opinions because 06s negative perception is like this weird reverse sacred cow.
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>>587828732
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>>587828974
People have nostalgia over 06 being hated and can't stand that some people who actually like the base game are popping out more loudly now.
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>>587829003
meant for >>587828562
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>>587828886
>that thumbnail
Seriously, what the fuck?
I genuinely love tails, but I don't understand why some wackos really like to self insert as him.
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>>587828974
>specifically hate the narrative of "06 was fixed by ChaosX" and say they liked it all along.
I confirm I think this. Haven't played P06 at all yet, waiting for the full release, it won't erase what the original game is.
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If you like 06 your Sonic opinions are invalid by default.
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>>587828365
>>587828886
This one's for the people who had a really hot teacher they wanted to bang...
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>>587825587
THIS IS SO SOULFUL
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>>587828974
Ehhh, I'm an 06 fan, but I would prefer playing P06.
But! I do in fact hate "06 was fixed by ChaosX", yes that's correct.
ChaosX made a better, more polished and fun game using the scraps left from 06, which proves the fact that 06 was an amazing game, but incomplete.
But, it differs so much from 06 in so many ways, P06 is ChaosX's game, not 06.
Which is fine!
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>>587828974
>>587829064
It's such a strange phenomenon, I don't get it.

>>587829274
I don't need your validation.
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06 is nowhere near as glitchy as everyone said it was but it still feels terrible to play when every character feels stiff as shit and you're constantly fighting with the camera to know what you're fucking doing. The amigo system also wasn't handled well at all because it breaks up the levels in a very artificial way to force playing a character that usually sucks and damages what is overall decent level design.
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>>587829064
We played the game fucknigga, and it was turbo asscheeks. All you’re doing is proudly proclaiming that you like shit
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Can Krack actually explain to me what benefit Shadow's business relationship with Rouge got from forfeiting his 2nd place and wasting 2 items to save her or is she going to avoid the fact entirely and go on a tangent about crap that was not asked about?
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>>587828897
>>587828974
Sorta related to these two points but I feel like Sonic fans are some of the only gamers that actually treat video games (at least Sonic games) as art and not necessarily as a product that is to be consumed. They usually appreciate and engage with the intent of a Sonic game on its own terms, even when it's not really accessible or "good" by technical standards that games are usually scrutinized by.

Of course this also leads to them being very strict about what is and isn't "Sonic", and thus what is worth engaging with.
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Just downloaded the recomp

>>587829450
I disagree, some characters are really bad but it depends on the character. Sonic with the upgrades is pretty good, but I hate Shadow's moves, so I'm happy when the stages make me switch to the much more fun Omega
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>>587829145
If that's enough to weird you out, you've got the most barricaded perspective that I've ever seen.
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>>587828921
It just might be this. Iizuka is very much an action and spectacle fag, and Maekawa brought the better storytelling. Without Iizuka, you get too much focus on story from Maekawa
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>>587829598
GRRR!
RECOMPS?! IIIIII HATES THAT RECOMP
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>>587828624
SonicBoomers lost.
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>>587829274
Nta but I dont know man, that game is far from perfect, we already know is almost unplayable in terms of gameplay, but the game actually had some parts worth saving, besides the music. The story is not perfect but had some really cool ideas, it was one of the few sonic games that actually tried to make sonic friends useful besides story plots, shadow, sonic and silver representing the past, the present and the future, was Godtier to me in concept, mephiles as a character is still so loved, sega started to use him again along infinite (another character worth saving in my opinion, and I'm glad it happened)
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>>587828624
Yes, performative contrarians are retarded
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>>587829575
>muh intent
06 is not art
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You can't enjoy Sonic today unless you are one of those positive people who try to enoy anything
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>>587829837
>almost unplayable in terms of gameplay
I played it just fine earlier today. The camera jerked for a couple seconds, there was a graphical glitch for a second, I missed a homing attack in an unexpected way, and things felt stiff, especially the mach speed sections. But everything else went smoothly, it's far from what I'd call unplayable
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>>587829951
Retard.
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>>587830106
Still a noticeable downgrade from the Adventure games' controls. Not unsalvageable but not what should be up to standard either.
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>>587829064
>>587829487
Here is the thing. I say this as a person who was there at the time. 06 defenders ALWAYS existed. Hell, I used to call them slurs and mentally ill back in the day because I was part of the borg back then.

Its just there is less pressure against them now. Especially after the meta era bombed.

>>587829575
I dont like 06, but even back then I had this nagging voice in the back of my head telling me a lot of the shitflinging was performative.

I remember a stream where SCMJ and BSC force Ted/ExandShadow to play the game and he was super insistent on not wanting to actively play things that are trash. Then he did and his entire reaction to it was "wtf why do people act like this game is so bad. Its not great but its not this horrible thing people make it out to be".
This was on the 2010s. They no longer acknowledge this even happened because it isnt useful to do so.
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>>587829963
And even then you have to be selective of what Sonic media to experience.
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Let's go!

>>587830332
Yes, I would generally agree with that
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>>587829706
That certainly would explain a LOT actually.
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>>587830494
>>587830494
>>587830494
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>>587830417
>Let's go!
gtfo mariohead
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>>587805143
He’s Future Trunks mixed with Nero.
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>>587806418
People just want Sonic to be in character. Not some disgusting hybrid between Deku, Modern Spider-Man, and Steven Universe.
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>>587806710
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>>587823015
No. Marge the Hedgehog is here to stay, chud.
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>>587828039
Sonic has Shahra, Merlina, and Madonna too.
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>>587829963
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>>587835042
>Madonna
Who?
>canceled character
kek you might as well count Tiara.
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>>587836764
Seira, then.
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>>587806418
As always, accusing current Sonic naysayers of being nostalgia blind is rich when we've had to ride Generations's dick for almost as long as we didn't have



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