>DofusDownload: https://www.dofus.com/en/mmorpg/downloadGuides: https://pastebin.com/aqfxZywYLast update: https://www.dofus.com/en/mmorpg/news/update/1762719-dofus-3-1-operation-consolidation>Dofus RetroDownload: https://www.dofus-retro.com/en/mmorpg/downloadGuides: https://pastebin.com/EnGbaLMzLast update: https://www.dofus-retro.com/en/mmorpg/news/announcements/1762628-good-bad-mercenary-update-1-46-online>WakfuDownload: https://www.wakfu.com/en/mmorpg/downloadGuides: https://pastebin.com/Ae7X8phu>WavenDownload: https://www.waven-game.com/en/download>Savarahttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3021630/Savara/https://www.ankama.com/en/games/savara>One More Gatehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1832950/One_More_Gate__A_Wakfu_Legend/https://www.ankama.com/en/games/one-more-gateIn a previous episode: >>1627980Big tiddy Goddess edition.
In case you're new or came back here is the drill about Dofus servers :>PioneerNew servers released on December 3rd. Allow playing multiple accounts at the same time.>Pioneer single-accountNew servers that only allow a single account. Some anons are on Kourial, previously named Dakal 2 before server merge. >Regular>Regular single-accountSame deal but old servers. Still relatively active.
New animated mini series Bestialehttps://youtu.be/DsdgdscajmCan be watched using the Ankama Launcher app on the video tab at the top. You have to be connected on an account with an in-game subscription. It's also on amazon prime video if you happen to have that.
is there a 4chan guild on retro?
how do you make kamas in retro? I'm struggling
>>1853714Uninstall build
>>1853849build?
>>1853979mais wesh
how do I create a dofus retro private server?
>>1853540The 4chan guild on the main version of the game is deadThere's no chance you'll see another 4tard in the nostalgia trap version of the game The thing is that there's no english speaking community for this game except for the half dozen who play with 8 accounts in the mono servers
comment faire le sexe ?
>>1855333well, we're a english community on this thread on 4chan, could/should work
>>1855881I'd be surprised if there's more than 10 people posting in these threadsEven more surprised if half of that are actively playing the game
>>1857331and there's maybe 1% playing dofus retro here which is very niche. but I'd gladly play with you even if we have a guild of 4 people
Pioneer servers officially dead
>>1858707no? they're super activeCire Momore set got changed in Beta.>+1 AP>+50 Power>+10% All Res>-60 Flat ResWorth IMOGargandyas shit got nerfed in Beta. It's... alright. Buncha new stuff also got buffs. Have yet to see amazing stuff, some potential though.
>>1852869I tried playing Dofus, but the dozens of gathering quests were too boring for me.
>>1852869Why is Ankama the ONLY mmo devs to make a turn based tactical game?>Ecol tactics is dead>Dofus>WakfuTheres 500,000 World of Warcraft clones, why arent there more Final Fantasy Tactics mmos?Ankama killed dofus and wakfu's playerbase when they removed faction pvp, and after an immediate downfall, they announced and pushed some sort of division style extraction pvp system that sucked. Why is the b̶e̶s̶t̶ only tactical mmo from 21+ years ago?
>>1858916The only safe time to make whacky MMOs was 20 years ago, doing it now would be suicide.
>>1858916They didn't remove faction PvP?
>>1858816You mean Incarnam quests? They serve as an introduction to a core principle of the game : killing shit to loot resources and craft stuff. Since there are many professions to showcase you got a fair amount of quests. If you aren't a slowpoke it shouldn't take that long. Main quests after that are very different. Also this is not a WoW clone or something by the way. You aren't obligated to do quests. They can be skipped entirely by just buying whatever they reward.
>>1859845>>1858816I swear if this guy got filtered by fucking Incarnam...
>>1859479I'm on active Dofus discord servers and even there isn't much talkNot a lot to talk about in a game where everyone uses in-game chat.
>>1860431Not a lot to talk about in a game that's older than half the people using this website and has a slower patch cycle than every other MMO.
>>1860440I don't think the game being old or having a slow progression has anything to do with how fast the discussions move. Most people just read a guide and know what to do next, so there's not much reason to engage in discussions. Not to mention, most people just use general chat for recruiting or asking for help, since it's quicker and more direct.
>>1860469It's directly tied to how much discussion there is, all old games have dead communities because the games are solved and optimized 20x over, there's guides for everything and nobody needs to ask questions. The only thing people ask is "what class should I play" as if anyone can answer that for them.There's apps and sites that totally map out the route you should take in the game to be most efficient.The lack of updates means people clear the game using all these tools then quit and maybe come back in 2 years when there's a couple new quests and dungeons to do (after people have optimized the route and strategy so they don't have to think for themselves of course), further emphasizing how dead the community is.
any dofus retro players? I want to play with you guys. for now I am not playing but we can start together. we'll make a guild just for us, people on here, in this thread on 4chan only (no outsiders).You can choose the server if you want. I'd like to play with a new character (class) so everyone start the game from the begining. I don't like and don't want to use apand won't make a discord server. I'd prefer using ingame chat.I like doing quests, wanted monsters and collect emot (I know it's very casual) but I like to take my time ingame. I'd like to become a butcher in the game, I 'ever tried and want to try it, I hope meat sells well ingame! see you later, bye
>>1860482Dofus isn't a game where most people clear it in 2 years, retard. And given how tough some fights are they still often need help.
>>1860528The issue I got with playing retro is that most of the servers are old filled with people that duped so much the economic is kinda fucked but im interested if there atleast 5 people willing to play
Need a bitchy tsundere hupper gf to correct with my musk
>>1858916I vaguely remember some game called Tales of Atlantis (Atlantica? something like that) that was turn based and it died because it was shit.
>>1861426I know, I also want a new server but ankama don't want to release another one. if you're french and goes on the dofus retro forum, people on there are against a new server because of bots. I fucking hate people from the dofus retro forum, tehy're all niggers who can't stop complaining about bots and they don't want another server because muh bots. if we gather at least 5 people, well play toegether
You are playing as Sadida's chosen people, right?
new player, i finished incarnum and astrub quests, hit lvl 50, but getting kinda bored nowim finding the combat tedious and annoying as a forgelance (wrong positioning for skills, lance not in right position, etc), not sure if it's because i'm low level or if the game's just not for me? i also noticed side kicks actually make the game boring but not sure if you can play without them
>>1862523You can play without Sidekicks.If you're annoyed by how classes play, it gets better for a several reasonsYou want to hit at least level 90 to unlock all first variants of spells, to have a full spell bar.You want to hit level 100 and hit 11 or 12 AP, the AP turns are designed around.Even after that, some classes get much better utility variants around level 150.Anything you particularly like about the game right now? Otherwise it may not be for you. Or maybe you just dislike Forgelance and think it's not as smooth to control and manipulate your lance?
>>1862537when the monster isn't in the right position so i have to align myself or sidekick to do something, and then the monster repositions again, wasting more turns and slowing the game down more, etc.in the context of bosses or pvp when each match actually matters, the above might not be annoying and even interesting, but going through all that for just questing or grinding is quite annoying at least for memaybe it'll get better when I have more AP as you mentioned? working with only 6 AP 3 MP feels pretty bad right now
>>1862212as much as she is my waifu, i play xelor to use my brain a little bit
Can you multi account in wakfu and is it fun doing so
>>1862738you don't need to since you can get 3 characters in one account, i guess you can if you want to run 2 accounts for a full team of 6
>>1862739Oh, I didn't know that
So am I correct in assuming that the summer island dungeons are permanently locked in the older servers because nobody can be assed to open them every year?
>>1863389no, they will automatically open on Tuesday
whats your take on mercenaries quests 8n dofus retro?
>>1863484No way, really? I don't get the point of the stupid puzzle being there thenWell whatever at least I can 100% the event
[dofus retro]what do you think of bots ingame? do they annoy you or tou can play without being bothered by them?
Went back to Wakfu (bought a sub with kamas) to try the new max level content. And it's another instance of brutal assrape content all around.
>>1864025As it should be
anyone played or is playing a fire/wind iop on dofus retro, I want you to tell me how and what youre done your way through levels or somtheing like that
>>1864524Farm shit. Preferably high level shit like bosses with as many people as possible who have a level > max_in_your_party / 3 and a total/average level close to the packs.
>>1864790>farming levelsgot you...funny french players hate this kind of play because it ruins the game for them (well thats what they sya on the dofus retro forum) haha
>>1864790thanks
Dofus story is actually pretty cool
>>1864834Dofus has solid worldbuilding and story. The problem is no one can read it online because it's all in-game.What other MMORPG has lore for the months of a year? The Javian and Descendre lore is pretty kino.
>>1864834>>1864958I remember the Frigost stuff being some good shit too.Thanks for soiling it, Tot. fucking retard
>Brakmarians hate thisCan't believe there's an entire nation made up of homos
>>1864834>>1864958How do you guys feel about the idea of having certain words marked, where you can hover over them to get a small recap of some stuff?I think Genshin does something like that. It doesn’t seem like a bad idea, I love Dofus stories, but sometimes it’s hard to recall everything when quests take too long or you get sidetracked by sidequests within them.
>>1860431>Not a lot to talk about in a game where everyone uses in-game chat.>everyone3 people
>>1865061I prefer ingame chat than shitcord
>>1864834>>1864958I like the Dofus world, I don't care much for the story but the world is very comfy and kinda fleshed out
I wonder what's your nationality, guys, it's weird to think there's maybe american playing this game because 99% of players are south american and french and north african I think
>>1865211and french speaking countries
>>1865211Argie here
>>1864449Nah man, the velociraptor boss has like 750k HP, and phase 2 expects you to hit 540k damage on 80% resists. How are you supposed to do that with 3 DPTs? Wakfu is so brutal, it's literally impossible to do stasis 3 and drop some good items.
>>1865315>literally impossible
>>1865330You haven't beaten it either, feel free to post win screen. There's like 6 people per month that manage to beat it at stasis 3. That is completely retarded.To have content only 0.01% of players can do.
>>1865337Not bad when there's only 100 people playing the game.
Dofus population spiked with the update.
I made a card game based on dofus long time ago do you want to see it? (it has only few cards)
>>1858916So weird to recognize some of the player based on costume, hair color and relic aura.How is Wakfu nowadays? left during the updated tha removed Riktus Faction, is the english community still dead?
>>1865962It revived temporarily when mono-account came out, it's back to being dead.
>>1865878Yes
>>1865971>retard
>>1865977
>>1865985learn to read retard we're talking about wakfu
>>1865977its in french sorry lmo
>>1865977its. based on old dofus 1.29 not 2.0 or 3.0
>>1865977based on a character me and my brother made
>>1865977a spell, equip, character and a monster
>>1865977the back of the cards they're different beacuse I don't know which one suits more
>>1865977sorry the pic is shit quality, I don't know if you will be able to see something
>>1865977almost finish
>>18659771
>>1865977finish
>>1865047>Not wanting your dicc succed by a cute succubieHomosexuality is prohibited in Brakmar. Rushu does not allow any faggotry.
would you be ok to have a server only for non french people on dofus retro?
Dofus is saved
>>1852869nice nipples
I've created a spell for dofus retro. it's for ecaflip. it's called 'flush'.you have 25% of doing fire, wind, water or earth damage.if the second 'flush' has the same elemental has the previous one: it gains damage.so for example you cast 'flush' and do fire damage. then you cast flush again and it is fire damage again: the spell damage is higher. and if you happen to cast the spell again and it is fire again, the damage are higher.what do you think of my spell idea for ecaflip?
>>18675106% chance to high roll is pretty lame and will probably never happen in most fights.
>>1867626how did you find 6%?
>>1867626I find the solution to the problem : when you do a critical hit, the same element as the previous one is applied. so lets say you cast the spell and you got fire, then you cast the spell again and you critical hit, it says fire
>>18677250.25*0.25 = 0.06
>>1868047thanks, fixed with the 1/2 critical hit lvl 200
>>1868064Get that private dofus retro server running and implement it
>>1868075I wish I knew how to make dofus 1.29 private server
how fo you make kamas in dofus retro
>>1869273Sell shit. Preferably in high quantity or rare and needed for relevant recipes. If you're rly broke at low level there are a bunch of low lvl mobs like moskitos, arakne, larva, piwis or whatever that have drops with decent selling values but they reward basically no exp.
>>1869479thank you very much.
>>1868198Go forth and learn
>>1870047I tried , searching on internent but found nothing
>new PvP season>ridiculous amount of noobs griefing because they haven't been naturally selected downwards>tons of new Osas with no clue how to play>no one eroded>no one focuses>buncha fucking pvm gears or people who forgot how to playShit feels ass.
I'm glad my IQ isn't low enough to be a pvpcuck in this game
>>1871287You and me both brother.
So are you going to tell me what you think of the latest update or what?
>>1871663I think it's neat
The auto rikki wand is the best part of this updatePity you have to wait until you barely have use for it until you can acquire it
what do you think of the daily quests in dofus retro?
Cutie spotted
>>1874622hot
>>1874622hips too wide
what's your favorite class in dofus retro?
>>1875312and what class are you using?
>>1874622hips just right
Anyone here plays dofus?
>>1860431I remember looking for Dofus groups on facebook for my country, I found like 3 and all of them were just for kamas buying/selling/scams>>1865211iirc Dofus in south america was huge for being free for a while, I heard someone mention it was on the cereal.
>>1865985God, you're autistic, be my friend please.
>>1874622I really miss when the 12 gods weren't actually designed, instead they had vague characteristics you could pick up from the statues.
I've never seen a gambler class in any other RPG
>>1880301now you say that, I don't recall any other mmorpgs with gambler class, like you said, too bad, randomness is funny
>>1881541It is fun to hit high rolls with Ecaflip yeah. Also a good compromise to keep all the random elements stacked into a single class so those who dislike it can opt away from it.
what do you want in dofus retro as new content?
>>1880301And there isn't one in dofus or wakfu any more either in anything but theme. I miss when you went from being a monster swinging dick RNGsus one turn then complete dog shit the next and it was entirely because of the RNG.
>>1883019Wakfu Eca got intact RNG, Dofus Eca RNG got gutted for some reason and just became a visual aesthetic
does someone know how to make a dofus retro private server?
>>1883173>>1883019you niggers don't even play the game
cool to see this thread even though it's dead as shitI wanted to make a Dofus general on /vg/ when Dofus 3 released but I had already moved on to other MMOs by the time beta ended>>1865211from Québec. It was pretty popular back in the day because of the languageI played on Ilyzaelle and there was a big level 200 guild on there and the leader was americanthey were very elitist though, I got kicked for not logging in for 2 weeks there's also the turbo autist XJ9 who played the game but he quit now I think
>>1878984>Dofus in south america was hugeIt was mostly Colombia, then Brazil and Argentina, iirc, but Colombia was definitely on top. That’s where they held a yearly event called Sofa.
>>1883766That thing negligible, Dofus Eca should have way more random elements
>>1885485Moving the goalpost from "it has no RNG" to "not enough RNG"?
where can I see all the spells of the ecaflip, I don't find them in the official site
should I make a dofus thread on /vg/?
so what do you think of my cards I posted?
>>1885900it would die instantly, that's why we're here
>>1885603Yeah, I play Eca in both games and Wakfu is leagues better. The spell you linked is also never used for the random effect, it’s used to get ANY card to cash out for shields. Essentially 0 contribution to randomness in Eca
>>1886002Wakfu classes are way more on-theme and specialized, it's almost unfair to compare them.
>>1886051dofus retro is on par with the theme of the class
what do you think of this spell I created for sadida (dofus retro)>the voodoo>4 AP (lv6)>1 range>cooldown: 3 turns>you summon a doll that can use to curse the enemythe voodoo doll cast a spell on a enemy that link damage of the target and the voodoo doll. the doll has a large pool of life point. you can also transfer non damaging spells to the enemy.(so you can summon the voodoo doll and hit the doll to do damage to the enemy or you can make lose the enemy MP or else)I want the doll having another spell to not just be a punching ball but I don't know what else can I add, do you have an idea?
my kolos are so fucking shiiiiitfrenchies are so fucking toxicpvmers are so fucking trashxelors are so fucking imbalanced
>>1886484>frenchies are so fucking toxicI agree
>>1874622Sex
>>1884909Man, I'm so freaking jealous. I spent my teen years wishing I could experience anything related to Dofus in real life. Meanwhile seeing these huge events where I don't get to go.
3 days left......it's crazy to think I started this quest over a decade ago
>>1880301wish our gambler cats looked like this
>>1892517Dofus was too sexy for my pre teen brain, it highly helped my current porn addiction.
I was tempted to test Dofus touch... but I never replayed Dofus and I'm a novice, I had make an account for Wakfu back a few years ago, but I didn't remember my username/password and I don't remember getting far in Wakfu either.
>>1898438Dofus Touch is this weird off-shoot of Dofus and it should never have been madeLiterally what is the point of porting your MMORPG to a browser, if it's not going to be cross-platform so people can play on the go and on PC? Actually so dumb. And then they make Dofus Unity, which has some mobile support (swiping to move maps) so you know it's on the table for them to make Dofus cross-platform.
>>1898459MMORPG to mobile*
>>1898438All of the games are fine just depends what you're looking for.Dofus for casual easy gameplay that focuses on achievements and quests instead of grind, will take you forever to do everything in the game.Wakfu for autistic minmaxing with hard as fuck dungeons and an absolute requirement to play in a team of 6.Touch for an older version of Dofus with more QoL and some different content, good for people who didn't like the unity update.Retro for nostalgiafags.We don't talk about Waven.
have you ever drop a dofus on retro? never for me
how much cost the vulbis dofus in retro?
>>1898679Nice summary, I can't begin to imagine how hard to chose it must be for outsiders. Funnily enough, in the general sense of things, they're all the same game lol. Isn't Waven being reworked or something? Something about the progress system being a slug. >>1898459They basically confirmed its something they would like, but they were not working on yet. I'd give it like 2 years at least before that. I swore I would play like crazy after the game updated, but then lost all motivation after the fucking 5 year wait and the game is still fucking blurry. 4K was later released but it never downloads, all motivation to play dissipated.
any french who also hate people on the french forum of dofus retro?
>>1901967>Isn't Waven being reworked or something?Yup. everything is pretty much being reset and they are making it even more bland and removing options and features for the mobilefag audience.
Dofus PvP is so fucking KINO. 3v3, 2v2, it's like seeing a real-time chess game where people are constantly trying to one up each other, see some path or play, the optimal route, while fucking everyone else over.Killing your enemies, not exposing yourself, running to your allies to connect so they can help you, running from your allies to not give your enemies zone, fucking your enemies over with gimmick spells, LOS, positioning or Lock. Genuinely what other game is like this?
God, if we had a more active community on 4chan for Wakfu, I would pick it back up so fast.I got no one to play a cartoony mmo from france in real life.
>>1903935Ah fuck it, this is making me pick it back up.
>>1905735Me too, still one of the best MMOs, but completely unplayable without a good group of people.
>>1905885Just pay for 2 subs and you can have a team of 6
>>1909843Is that allowed? Don't know their stance on multiboxing.Want to try the game out if ankama lets me connect one of these days. What server should I choose? I think this thread had a group going at some point.
>>1909843I prefer to play MMOs with other people and not myself, which is why I played the ogrest server.>>1910959Yes it's allowed, but you can only do it on the rubilax server, there's been several guilds over the years but they're all dead and buried now.
I got a maxed out guild in Wakfu that my former guild leader left to me. Maybe I will start a /agg/ guild, although we will need to invite regular people also to fill it out.
>>1913330I also want to create a guild for players who post here on dofus retro on boune server, but I need players
>>1903935it's just unfortunate that it requires such a massive investment in kamas or real money
Wtf brosbtw apparently srams got 1 extra range on Wily and some assassination changes (plus natural rear bonus) almost wanna reinstall, anyone still playing wakfu mono?
>>1915970sounds like a bandaid until they can get a proper rework
>>1915978still a huge powergain (oh and 1 natural control, massive for trap builds), wily was my most used spell so tempted, anyone still playing wakfu or all moved to retro and quit?
>>1915970Ougi and Fogger got big, big buffs too. They feel really good and competetive right now
>>1916039yeah a bunch of classes got buffs, problem with mono is, why even reinstall as all you can do alone with these buffs is maybe kill a group of 3 instead of 2, the new +20lvl content forgetaboutit, maybe will check if some guilds are recruiting (and fuck discord :P)
>>1916044In my honest opinion, Wakfu is a multibox game. It's just too brutally difficult in the higher levels. You can always split the team 3/3 with a friend when you wanna be social.
>>1916073yeah, not on mono tho, gonna try to join a random guild, or move the char to multibox server I guess
>>1916073can you 3man endgame dungeons???
I'm gonna fucking do it
>>1916459ehhh, sometime
>>1916464wtf it just keeps growing, ankamabros?
ok the recruitment chat is pretty active, maybe it's not so bad
fuck the UI changes are abysmal
>>1916250There are 3 player dungeons, they are balanced around 3 characters so of course you can handle those.6 player dungeons are brutally hard even for a 6 man team, no chance in hell a 3 man team is doing the regular dungeons above level 171
>"We are going to delete this character"I think he's ready to go, Ankama
>think about returning>dont want to do the starting quests again man i wish i enjoyed grinding more>>1914434rip dofus arena 2v2
anyone playing dofus retro?
>>1903935This is an interesting opinion, unfortunately, I don't have 3 level 200 characters, so I basically can't play. God I miss Dofus Arena, it was short, but it was nice.
>>1910959Wakfu lets you make 3 characters in 1 account and play all 3 of them, as long as you are suscribed. 2 accounts should be all that you need to solo the entire game.>>1912088Dofus/Wakfu lead to my early porn addiction.>>1915970Grok is this real?>>1916468You can do it, friend!
>>1916628It's pretty active on Rubilax, especially during American hours.
hello, I need advices about fire/wind Iop in dofus retro.I want to know where did you exp before lvl 60/70? what kind of equipement did you use before level 60/70 and after (until ceremonial rat set)?
>>1918130yeah weirdly enough there's tons more LFGs around 2am eurohours vs evening, guess ankama didn't bother advertising in eu outside of france, shame
>>1918130how does LFG chat work on multi, is it all 3/6 lfg or do f2p players also exist?
Does anybody have any resource about how much force of will is needed for steal AP skills to succeed? Doubt there's any ENG one, maybe hidden in some discord, but a french one might exist?
>>1922431Here is a link that has a FoW calculator.https://www.wakfu.com/en/forum/143-guides/243198-wakfucalc-theorycrafting-toolsAnd some other assorted stuff too
>>1922465wow amazing, thanks so much!!!
>>1922465bummer it's lock at 20, unless there is a ring or some other shit to allow abusing stealing it's a nogo
>>1923050Pets can give +20. Some classes have passives that give +20. There are sublimations that give between 9 and 20 (although it’s kinda reserved for endgame).Also some classes can do a trick where they reduce their own MP to get more FoW for subsequent reductions.
What did Ankama mean by this?
>>1923214interesting, might still be an option then, thanks
>>1923214ok, with a +20 pet (skipping the +1ap, +10fow, -20%dmg motivation, don't think it's worth it), managed to steal 3AP (2, 0,1) in 3 perfidious attack casts, which means 2AP per 20 weak points, hit the 100 threshold in 1 turn, amazing, that was on a random treechnid tho, gonna try a 200ish npc
>>1923734wow apparently I already have this 2 mil shit, don't remember getting it, then there is:Measure IIif state bearer has 50% ch +10 fowhow do epic sublimations work, does it replace my normal sublimation on an epic item? it costs 1.49 mil, all my money, is it worth it????
>>1923750gonna literally have <100k left, should I buy it?
>>1923750fuck it, pulled the trigger, I'm the brokest nigga on wakfu now, but with 53 fow yay
>>1923734same on an ammaniac (190lvl), this is crazy good, srams were lowkey OP all this time
does healing mastery work on health steals? bought ratchams for 20 fow, but if it doesn't might've been a mistake and 5% block would probably make more sense
>>1852869what's happening with waven, have they finally figured out how to make a proper game of it? and how's krosmaga doing?
>>1923811kek
>>1923795yeah, Bilby exists, ratchams is cute but oh well
ok wtf, are transmutations all Old items and useless now???
>>1923853wow, you can just transmute for free now, how is ankama paying their bills
well fuck I bought kama stones, I'm a pay2win now, and you still have to work them to even sell them wtf, the fuckers just undercut me by 20k
>>1923750There is a sublimation called profit that gives you 1 ap whenever you steal at least 1ap, which is a nasty synergy with Sram perfidious attack. The damage per AP ratio becomes insanely high when the steal lands.
>>1923885omg this sounds broken
>>1923885ffs i'm gonna need more kama stones
>>1923885ok it's only once per turn so not really broken, 1.7mil tho :/
>>1923885kek I really forgot what I invested in
>>1924409>>1924412You can have two of them for 2 per turn. Gotta read the tooltips
>>1925403ok, this does edge it towards OP, 2AP per turn sounds sweet, why does 1 only works once tho?
>>1925411nah nvm, i'm retarded
>>1925411If you click around on sublis you can see how they stack in the tooltip, this one just stacks in that particular way. But yeah it’s pretty nasty on perfidious attack, basically triples the damage ratio on proc + tons of weak point generation.
>>1925419yeah it's fucking crazy, you get 3 ap back from just 3 3ap attacks, at 60weak points, so 20 weak points for free and you trigger the extra +20% dmg, amazing, with second even crazier, the cost/gain is lower but still amazing, fuck do I buy kama stones again? already hate myself for paypigging
>>1925419dude this can stack 3 times, "up to level 6", this shit is broken
>>1925442Oh yea it is 3 times. If you’re gonna paypig you will get the most value by running 2 account subs and you can get every item yourself. Buying lategame gear is way too expensive, maybe when you’re starting out but bot at 200+
>>1925491on mono you can buy 2 of these for 25euro, it's cheap, but yeah
Boompa, retro still ded
>>1930116Im playing retro but beta version so I can play a lvl 200 for once with full exo sets
>>1933830wakfu for life, the mono server is pretty active still (unless you want 185+ dung, but yeah 185 is insufferable and the 200/215 not that much away from that, hope ankama reworks their shit, expecting 6 ppl to be on point with shit mechanics that also make half of the classes useless, stop fucking smelling your own farts ankama, the new designers must've been trans)
>>1925442it is lowkey broken, but you need 3 successful steals in a row for max potential, means you sac 120 crit/meele from mithar for the 20fow, and probably some retarded sublis like secondary devastation that cost through the roof, for in the end one extra 3ap spell cast... Yeah, after sinking 2.5mil into it, not really broken, kinda weaker than Save subli as you get that leftover 1AP all the freaking time ymmv
What classes are most wanted in Wakfu right now? If you play a dps like a Huppermage are you shit out of luck?
>>1936799healers probably, hupper should be fine
>>1936799Huppermages are always needed
>>1938850>>1942597Sweet. I'm going to reply as if the second of these wasn't a stealth bump. I ended up getting a bit bored with Huppermage and tried switching to Sadida, it's much more involved. It seems to me that Hupper has a reputation for complexity but I wonder if that's not just pre re-work stuff because what I played was pretty formulaic with its base combo of generating 4 runes easily and then just feasting off all the buffs. Casting 4 elemental spells in the right order is a lot less complex than managing a doll/tree army with Sadida.
>>1942679Hupper is brain-dead until you want to start doing things other than simply chucking a light arrow every other turn, then it becomes complicated, it can do many things but the price for that is having to jump through hoops to do them.
>>1936799A damage dealer that can spec into healer for when it's needed. So Hupper/Masq/Eca are good
>>1936799healer is top if/when lfg calls for a class, tank second, everyone is dps which is standard, do what >>1943162 suggests and you're golden (the class lfgs are all for 200+ content tho, so not sure if worth bothering that much, <200 class makes little diff, maybe in 3ppl dungs)
>>1943162Healer that have damage builds also work (Sadida/Eni can both deal serious damage)
Am I stupid if I start making more characters on Ogrest instead of just playing the multi server?
>>1944835having options to help guildmates clear some bs dg is good
