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Leoric's trait incentivizes feeding meaning he's a badly designed hero or at least his trait is
>>1870155Cleave or bonus single target damage incentivizes feeding?
>>1870155>Leoric>not Tyrael
>>1870084op image downgrade
>>1870084op image upgrade
I'll admit it. Nothing in this game makes me happier than purposefully throwing a won match to spite a Genji player.
>typing anything after you died 8 times in a 24 minute gamethat's a report
>>1871401What if it's the tank, nobody else is dying and your team is winning?
>>1871926there are no excuses for dying every 3 minutes
>>1872280>t. the shitty healer
what does this say about the player?
>>1873863actual woman dragged into it by her mate who never had any ambition or curiosity to try anything else
>>1873863Pure alpha behavior or a bot. Abathur is not only the best hero, he's also completely unique to HotS.
I'M GONNA HECKIN' SOOOAK! I'M SOOOAKIN'! AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
any europeans want to play?
>>1874634Post heroes and modes you play.
>>1874642currently playing ARAM because I haven't played for 5 months. I mainly play supp like Raegar, whitemane and probably some others I forgot here
>>1874644morales and anduin too
>>1874647Morales reminds me of a cool morales autist here who shared a great guide
>>1874644>Raegaryo is that a dragon from game of thrones
>>1874650I had hoped he started to throw hands with people like in the game but that wasn't the case to my utter dismay
>my 4-man squad: dude bros dude broing>their 4-man squad: 99.7% WR smurfs
>>1876082I have a policy to throw every game with a sweaty 4-stack
>>1876082protips for cheating the system in qm is to queue up as Uther + another healer + 3 cc heavy damage dealers and just 1shot everything and laugh because the enemy team doesn't have a tank. This is what I see most often when playing vs a high wr 5 stack
>>1876112I take the free win, type nothing, and then report them all for all fields as soon as the match is over. The decision to merge solo players with 4 man groups was the dumbest possible thing the devs ever did with this game
I've had it with the ego typing (even pre-match), winrate spotting/posting, shut the fuck up nigga, you're barely gold 1, you are not good at the game, no one in these lobbies is good.
>>1876640Better yet are the shit talking smurfs who literally choose to play in lower elo then shit talk all game about how you're not playing to their standards
why do I have that everytime I launch the game and why isn't it using all my internet speed
>>1876815nevermind it's because the game and the launchers aren't in the same language, so fucking stupid
>>1876816>nevermind it's because the game and the launchers aren't in the same language, so fucking stupidIt's not that, I don't have to download anything when using Battle.net and HotS in different languages.
Update today?
>>1870129NOT SO FAST!
>>1877552>Alex with absGross, she is supposed to be soft
Bro, all I wanted is just the 20 wins chest, not even 50My fucking bad I guessWhoever said sl is better than quick meme must be one of those smurfs/stackers that keep farming low ranks
>>1878388play ARAM if you want to farm chestsplay SL if you're a big boy/girl
why are cyrillic names so common on EU I can't deal with this server
>>1878915Game is very popular among russians and there's no region lockI will tell you more - even among the latin letter names there are a lot of russians
WELL?
>>1880321Li Li's rewards are cuter, so went with her. I prefer Mal'Ganis as a playable hero, though.
>>1880321I'm not a furry but...
>Alarak buffs went throughFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU
>Catapults no longer give 1 experience.why
>>1870129
>season has been out for 2 months onlyfeels like 20
refunding
>>1880321nobody uses malganis imao
>lili healing buffed by 25%WHAT THE FUCK
>>1881631it's 20%
>>1881631>>1881702good. she was absolutely garbageher heroics should've been buffed too
tourist herehow do I keep camera lock on without having to hold space (I only play aram)
>>1881873press L in a match or change the camera mode in options.
>>1881866>she wasshe still is dogshit
>>1881890Cant be worse than alex or morales
>>1881911>can't beyes it can
gl if you're paired with me lmao
>>1882216I think leveling medivh was actually the least fun I've had with any hero. Even butcher was better.
cool nexxomania event? I get a li li portrait I will never use, 2 sprays I will never use, and a useless announcer speaking in mexican
>>1883570noob ?you also get a free chest
>>1883652give me a sexy skin or fuck off
I request a gata alex skin, the ones she has are terrible>capeshit costume>ugly undead
>35k goldNoticing a lot of gold sink mounts and skins recently. Good thing I've got like 200k cuz this mount is sick
>>1884138Gotta empty everyone's gold reserves before they can release anything new. #hopium #totallynotdead
>>1884138I bought it before realizing there aren't a lot of hero skins that synergize with it too well
How did she torture Illidan for 10000 years?
>>1886345Imagine her flaunting her perfect body and cute tummy to you for a year without you being allowed to even sniff her then multiply that by 10,000
>I pick azmo>5 people go after my fat storages>enemy pick azmo>nobody dives him???
>me play hero, up against 5 grandmaster stack>enemy play hero, up against me (grandmaster) and 4 bronzies???
>play hero>enemy stay in base as hero???
Why are priests so greedy?
Valla wants to help Anduin!Valla wants to help Anduin!Valla wants to help Anduin!Valla wants to help Anduin!Anduin notes Valla will respawn in 40 seconds!Anduin can use Leap of Faith in 20 seconds!
>>1886351but he's blind.
>>1889300good point, I don't know how you torture a blind man sorry
>>1889383ASMR is a thing or she smells nice
>>1889383>>1886351But she would let him sniff. She would get close and let him feel her close.Edging him for 10,000 years but never letting him finish.
>if hots was still alive dva would get a kpop demon hunters skin
if "being alive" to zoomers is receiving ill-fitting advertisement that players have to pay to wear then i am glad that it's "dead"
wonder who's in charge of rotating the worst brawls ever every 2 weeks
>>1891397Payload Hanamura is a good brawl THOUGH
their team>fights inside their hammer's rangemy team>gets kited outside our hammer's range
Diablo heroes > Nexus heroes > Overwatch heroes > Warcraft heroes > Starcraft heroes
>Nexus heroes
>>1892873Well you're 1/5th right
>>1892873Diablo/warcraft>Starcraft>Nexus>Cow fertilizer>Overwatch
>>1894221Diablo/warcraft>Starcraft/Orphea>Cow fertilizer>Overwatch>(infinite gap)>qh*ra
>THAS RYE
>>1894697>Infinite silence AOE at 20 that movesNIGGER HERO
>>1894697imagine including this absolute monstrosity of a DEI special OC in the same game as Alarak or Diablo or Arthas
Racemix with Qhira
why do people expect others to have perfect knowledge and mastery of every hero, I don't play healers so I'm going to pick the fun looking talents on Li Li and if you're not happy that's not my problem
>>1895070>Lili>FunNot memeing here, name a single fun talent of hers
>>1895079I press R and a water dragon hoses you for 70% slow then I hit you with my teacup
>>1894929At least she's fun to play and represents a niche gameplay archetype.
>>1894697make her wasteland skin her default and give her more interesting voice lines and personality more akin to a thrill seeker traveling between universes looking for interesting bounties and she might have been recieved a smidge better
you have 1mm of visible health left and you are given two options>a) dive into 5 people who gave up on chasing you>b) keep running away and hearthquestion theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GcBGhV047A
>>1895958The scenario is unrealistic. Why are 5 people chasing one? Doesn't it mean that kill is extremely valuable to secure, possibly game-ending? In which case, does escaping and hearthing (healing + travel time = at least 20 seconds) change anything?
>The scenario is unrealistic. Why are 5 people chasing one? Doesn't it mean that kill is extremely valuable to secure, possibly game-ending? In which case, does escaping and hearthing (healing + travel time = at least 20 seconds) change anything?
>>1895971alarak with 300 sadism
>>1895978Why is Alarak with 300 sadism being chased by 5 people? What happened to the rest of his team? If they're dead, do you think Alarak can defend core against 5 people?
>>1895983>Why is Alarak with 300 sadism being chased by 5 people?lucky etc dance combo wiped everyone else>If they're dead, do you think Alarak can defend core against 5 people?nobody said anything about the game being near its end
>>1895984If Alarak has 300 sadism (an unrealistic scenario in itself), then the game is near its end. Heroes are most likely around level 25 and can right click the core and afk.
>>1895987>likelymay i introduce you to quick match slugfest matches where only two players total know how to push
>>1895990>getting upset over a QM match where an obvious alarak god gets overconfident during a non decisive momentI'm sure you can find better things to care about
>>1895996>non decisiveoccurrences can be decisive without directly resulting in a core wipe within the next minute
>>1896000Yeah, like your shit ass being caught in a 4 man mosh pit and leaving him alone.
>#1 korean Alarak with 4 trillion sadism can't save his W for a MoshHuh?
Nice to see the bitch posting continues
let's talk about Cassia's tits instead
To whoever is making the urbadiAFK accounts go fuck yourself
>>1896199Don't be bad next time
>>1896097can we talk about alex boobs and tummy instead?
zera rapes tracer so wellso refreshing to punish those smug cunts
>>1896398I usually don't have a problem with Zera or at least trade even if he dives me. Valeera on the other hand...
>>1896655he probably goes some meme build like AA zera which only gets good late game where 1v1ing a lone tracer becomes increasingly rare
Wish i had hands to play zera
>>1896663post your build, i'm curiousif anything his AA build is the only non-meme build
>>1897890AA build is good in theory but you need korean micro and decision making and you're just not that good so it's a meme build in practiceQ build is simpler to play and higher impact if they're forced to clump
The better healer lost, again
>>1897924AA just needs practicingQ is way too inconsistent and unreliable in my experience, frankly if you go Q you might as well pick a ranged mage instead which does the same job but better and safer
>>1897952one 20Q + might of the nerazim Q on 3 heroes = 3236 damage or 1477 damage scaled down to level 0 valuesthat's almost 500 damage per target, every 3sAA build can't do that, most mages can't do thatadd a nanoboost and Q build zera can legit 1v5
I'm downloading this piece of crap again...
>>1897966500 damage a target at level 20 every 3 seconds. Is that a joke? Do you know what a jaina can do with blizzard build or zarya with full energy?
>>1897989Misread that, still 1k every 3 seconds is trash compared to a lot of other completed builds.
>>1897989>500 damage a target at level 20no it's 500 damage at LEVEL 0, which I think is easier to picture. a squishy typically has around 1500 hp or less at level 0Valla: 1340 hpJaina: 1365 hpMalfurion: 1525 hpso straight up, Q+R which takes no micro skill would chunk these heroes for a third of their hp, and a repeat comes after 3sfrom the moment zera attacks to 3 seconds later = 66% hp gonesome mages like jaina can do that but not as safely (zera heals for 60% hp of it)
>>1897996OK now do jaina with blizzard reset at 7, or imp with brand of solarion, or zarya with full energy or greymane with alpha killer and cleave at 20. You're acting like that damage exists in a vacuum and doesn't need to be compared to other heroes who can do just as much much more safely and easily.
>>1898002let me make it simple for youcan these heroes 1v5 with the right build?zera? yesjaina? yesgreymane? nozarya? no
>>1897966>>1897996the damage can be good, but i still wouldn't go for QQ is dead weight until 16 and completes at 20, meanwhile AA isn't dead weight from 4, is active at 7, and completes at 10being a stat padder until 16 might not get you to 20, or even 16, because my experience with Q was having top damage and no kills, as opposed to AA which nets in kills but low total damageit feels like playing murky to be honest
Ok I remember why I don't like this game
oh god i just had a medivh in my team who played like i do with medivhoh god
>Raven's IntellectI afk, gln
i hate qhira so god damn much
>>1898006You're retarded. A gm or zarya can absolutely shit out way more damage than your stupid Q build zera
>>1898154ok why and dont answer with>S-SHES BROWN
>>1898165no they can't
alright final answer to best zera build:AA+Qlmaoyou can actually have both
>>1898175Lol good argument retard. At level 20 with just the cleave talent and no wizened duelist or alpha killer, just the base auto attack damage hits for 2k damage a second on 3 targets. That's way more than 3k every 3 seconds. With a maxed wizened duelist and alpha killer it becomes a truly disgusting 3k damage every second. Zarya with feel the heat hits those 3 targets for about 1900 a second also just using her auto attack and no other abilities.
>>1898171shitload of self sustain, damage, health, mobility and above all, CC>dont answer with>S-SHES BROWNyou know, one day i realized i'm not actually a hardcore racist, i just hate pieces of shits, and qhira happens to be one
>>1898183ah yes I'm sure real player-controlled heroes just sit there while gaymane autoattacks them because it's so free right?
>>1898185Lol, lmao. This is your fucking cope? I knew you were stupid but holy shit.
>>1898187my dummy testing: realistic against real players, zera's Q cast time is literally ZERO, it's instant, in other words not counterable unless you can frame stun the zera when he blinks inyour dummy testing: ah yes these 3 heroes just sit there and let gaymane autoattack them for 100% uptime (and zera's autos deal 0 damage now for an even more unfair comparison) I win the argumentlol who's coping
>>1898196>he can't do that much damage because he just can't ok>oh he literally does 3 times as much in the same time frame>just let me start coping about how the enemy won't let you kill them as if that's not true for literally any assassinOK let's see what happens if I just use blunderbuss and attack speed increase instead. Oh shit he does literally 1200 damage from a range of 6.6 onto just two targets. Face it retard. Your zeratul build is a meme for a reason and your assertion that no other heroes could do that type of damage when the damage you're so impressed by is fucking pathetic compared to so many other heroes just shows that you're trash at the game.
>>1898206And fuck. A Q build imperius with a 3 man spear is doing 5k damage a second. A jaina just pressing E on three targets can hit 2300 a second with no other abilities. A slam build Sonya can do 1500 damage a second to two targets without even using wrath. 3k every 3 seconds isn't impressive no matter how you try to pretend it is.
>>1898206the whole argument started because we were comparing ease of dealing team-wide damage in frequent, uncounterable bursts (Q build zera) to a higher, sustained damage AA duelist buildand your brilliant counter-argument for that is muh max stack greymane and muh max energy zarya deal MORE damage!!! as if these don't run into the same issues as the previously mentioned AA zera, which is that you WON'T get 100% uptime AA you genius
>>1898222Your argument was>wow he does 1k damage per target every 3 seconds that's more than anyone else doesWhich is objectively not even close to true>I can't maintain energy on zaryasounds like you're just shit at the game. Also I specifically said I didn't have any stacks on gm you fucking illiterate retard. Literally just taking ranged splash he can sit at Raynors attack range and shit out more damage than your Q build zeratul without pressing a single button. If you're taking zeratul and trying to aoe burst down an entire team you're stupid and bad and there's no way around it and pretending it's the optimal play, or that he's better at doing it than literally half the games roster, is fucking funny.
>>1898231post your greymane's winrate, should be in the 60s if you can 1v5 with your 6.6 range autoattacker
>>1898222>>1898231Perhaps, to really go a step further, you can explain to me Zeratuls Q build is not only his lowest winrate build in SL, but is also like 15% winrate lower than GMs worgen build? Is it because it's so much stronger and easier to use lol?
>>1898235Nice cope retard. Post your zeratul one and your rank. Then read this >>1898237 and answer my question
>>1898237post yours I asked first. referring to other people's statistics is the kind of cope that leads you to believe medivh is a bad hero lol
>>1898238https://www.heroesprofile.com/Global/Talents/Zeratul?timeframe_type=major&timeframe=2.55&game_type=sl&league_tier=Master&statfilter=win_rate&build_type=HP%20Algorithm&mirror=0https://www.heroesprofile.com/Global/Talents/Greymane?timeframe_type=major&timeframe=2.55&game_type=sl&league_tier=Master&statfilter=win_rate&build_type=Popular&mirror=0
>>1898239>if it's not anecdotal evidence it's copeholy fucking retard lol.
>>1898244yeah it because it comes from a silver shitter who goes to heroesprofile instead of having actual game experience lolalso I said Q build zera is easier to play than AA zera, not that your basic bitch Raynor+ autoattacker is somehow more difficult so you've been bringing up completely unrelated shit and deflecting all hour long
>>1898246>if you use actual stats to argue that a build is stronger it shows you're silverLol, the cope is real. Post rank retard.>I literally can't keep my energy bar full on zaryaYeah, I'm sure you're a real pro lol.
>>1898250who's the bronzie who brought up max stacks gayfurry in the first place as if it's realistic against non-dummy heroes? oh wait that was you lol>With a maxed wizened duelist and alpha killertotally being fair with the variables here and reflective of someone with a lot of game experience lol
>>1898255>At level 20 with just the cleave talent and no wizened duelist or alpha killer, just the base auto attack damage hits for 2k damage a second on 3 targets>literally can't readI'm so sorry for you. You were the first to ask to see personal stats. So post yours or concede that you're gold with a 52% winrate on zeratul in SL at best lol.
>>1898259you wouldn't need to bring MUH MAX STACKS 10 TRILLION SADISM GREYLARAKRYA DEALS A BILLION DAMAGE PER NANOSECOND into your "argument" if it was honest in the first place, sorry but that shows dishonestypost stats you silver surfer and DONT include vs AI stats because these don't behave like real players!!!
>>1898182The 'best' build is probably the single target burst damage with singularity spike bonus damage and such, but the most fun by far is the Wormhole and Cleave build with the spell damage healing at 20.
>>1898265>ignores all the other heroes I mentioned and hyper fixates on the gm>can't do simple mathlol, lmao. 2k is a bigger number than 500 lol. Keep coping
>>1898265>literally ignores what was said>you're being dishonestwew lad
bored of this argument nowdon't ever reply to me again until you provide proof you're not a metal leaguer
>>1898289>starts bitching posting>is entirely unwilling to put his money where his mouth isFucking redditors I swear. If you were anything other than a passive aggressive woman you would simply leave when you got bored instead of actively trying to show how bored you are by continuing to post. It's fine though. Zeratuls cleave winrate is lowest compared to his AA winrate at high ranks and closest in low ranks so I don't even need to see your rank to know what it is lol.
>>1898289I'm unranked :^)
>>1897968Ganbatte Daigo-chan, this game is not that bad>>1897940>10 deaths on fucking artanis>talking about bad decisions
>>1898986he died for Aiur
Uninstalled again, this game, and everyone like it, are simply the subhuman magnet. You just know the moment you see one of these new life service, battle pass, chests, balance patch every two weeks team games, to expect an avalance of actual turd sucking low lives to swarm it like cockroaches. No self respecting person aboe the IQ of 70 will EVER sit down and waste their time playing this unskilled trash of a game. YOU are fucking stupid, the people who made this game are fucking stupid, the only ones who aren't stupid are the ones who can take a single look at these irrelevant time wasting circus performances 'games' and scoff while going about his day.OH MY FUCKIGN GODI can't believe I actually decided to waste another day on this fucking mongoloid containment cage. It's actually really my faultEnjoy your perpetual misery and impoverishment, retards. No one who plays this game should be allowed to vote or hold a job.
imagine letting some casual hero brawler mindbreak you to that extent, just try to have fun buddy
>>1899020what ranked does to a mf
>>1899020
>>1899020This is why I only play Quick Match.
i hate lilii don't want it in my team, i don't want it in the enemy team
I love li li and how positive and funny she is plus she runs fast for a small panda
you just want to put your dick inside it
I'm not a furry or a pedo
uh huh
You are a meanie
Can Li Li realistically solo bosses after her healing buff?
>>1899376all ranged heroes with self sustain can solo bosses technically, it's just incredibly stupid and takes too long for a healer
>>1899202Being a furry is cringe
How do I space goat girl
>>1899585Charge leap, jump behind enemy, pop instant, hammer swat them towards your team, hope they're smart enough to capitalize on stunned enemy.
>>1899585if they don't have too many interrupts, W7 is really good and lets you zoom around at lunara speed
>>1899585Distract em with your fat draenei ass
why does Varian have Garrosh's ult on a 16s cd
>>1900042Because thats his only good ability
why is garrosh's ult 5 times as strong as varians ult with only 3 times the cooldown
>>1900089Decimate has 3x the cooldown of taunt?
Why do retards insist on replying to me?
why does Auriel have Rehgar's ult on a 4s cd
why does medivh have uther's ult on a 9s(later 4s) cd?
mediv noobnasibo topnsibonasibo u suck
Why does butcher have tyreals ult on a 15 sec cd?
>ultOnly two heroes have ults and both are Overwatch heroes. Do you guys mean heroics?
ult is shorter to type and means the same thing you nerd
Pulse Bomb and Self-Destruct are ults, they start off technically available, but with an empty resource meter and the meter must be charged up by certain actions, including dealing damage.A typical ability bound to R by default is a heroic.
>>1900324The most reddit post in the history of this thread
>>1900336Proper terminology is reddit now? As expected of /hotsg/.
>>1900347>being a pedantic faggot for no good reason>bitch posting>umm ackshuallyYes, go back
>>1900357>>being a pedantic faggot for no good reasonD.Va gets to use both an ult and a heroic as different moves.>>bitch postingNobody was bitching until you came along.>>umm ackshuallyNobody used that word before you.Keep coping.
>>1900364Go back
>>1900389>no argumentGo back
>>1900390>no u
look at them, arguing like lovers do
>>1900324Tracer is LITERALLY a HERO in Overwatch THO
>>1900324and so is D.va, the HERO who saved South Korea and the nexus
wanna know how to pop your teammate medivh's blood vessel?walk into a 1v3 under a fort, pretend you want to get away, make him open a portal right on top of you and don't click on itit works flawlessly
>>1900741>>1900742They both have heroic abilities. Tracer's heroic doubles as an ult, while D.Va has an ult separately from her heroic.
>>1900836what's the point of this pedantry? how often do you see players type "heroic" instead of "ult" or "R"
>>1900042It only hits 1 person
>>1900852>what's the point of this pedantry?There is no pedantry here. It is a meaningful distinction for D.Va.>how often do you see players type "heroic" instead of "ult" or "R"I rarely see players type either "heroic" or "ult", most often it's R.
Why does Hanzo, a ranged assassin from the universe of Overwatch, have a level 4 talent named Explosive Arrows that is equivalent to the level 16 talent named Explosive Round of Nova, a ranged assassin from the universe of Starcraft? Isn't that called "dogshit balance?"
>>1900958So then why the fuck did you type anything at all you stupid cunt? Holy fucking shit
Not only that, but the choices are also>Nova: hmm do I become a bit more useful in fights or do i go from useless to decent at waveclear>Hanzo: hmm how should i massacre minions today
>>1901075Meant for >>1901065
>>1901069Maybe because others were typing "ults" above me?>resorting to bitch postingSad!
I miss all the funny memes from /vg/ and I lost my folder when my computer was kill does anyone have the one where li li and alarak are having tea
>>1901093What bitch posting you pedantic retard, holy fuck it's impossible to keep up with the nonsense coming from your brain
>>1901113You're bitching, so it's bitch posting.>b-but it's ackshually when you reply witho-That's called bitch replying, not bitch posting, my dear newfriend.
Why doesn't any hero say bitch or fuck
>>1901099This is what you get for hoarding memes and never sharing./twg/ understood the consequences of burning the Library of Alexandria, and made sure history won't repeat itself.
>>1901160do you have the meme or not
>>1901119See>>1900470Also it's funny that you spent like 5 posts kvetching over the use of ult instead of heoric only to accuse others of bitching>I googled this term you used and it's ackhsually...Get fucked you pedantic retard. I'm going to assume reddit loves that shit
>>1901207I googled "bitch posting", realised it's not the correct term, somehow found out the correct term and made my reply in less than two minutes? I appreciate you thinking I have superhuman speed, but I don't even think that's googleable.
>>1901213The disingenuousness is off the charts
>>1901216Take your meds and stop shitting up the general whenever someone posts something you do not like.
>>1901219>shits up general cuz someone said ult>no u againKill yourself holy shit
>>1901224>all retorts ever are "no u">discussing game terminology is shitting up>complaining, flaming and not even making ad vocem arguments somehow is not shitting upQuit posting.
>>1901227>literally every response is a no u style response>is upset when he's called out for it>the discussion of proper terminology blah blah>>1900288This shit is pure semantics you faggot and you know it. Stop being a little cunt and trying to pretend this was meant to be a quality post about the game
Actually, it's called an ultimate evolution, not a clone. You probably don't even know what a clone is.
>>1901229>This shit is pure semantics you faggotsee >>1900836
>>1901240>I rarely see players type either "heroic" or "ult", most often it's R.You already admitted the entire discussion is a meaningless quibble over semantics that has no practical application. Too late to backtrack and pretend it was a relevant point to bring up now.>Pedantic is an insulting word used to describe someone who annoys others by correcting small errors, caring too much about minor detailsDescribes your bullshit perfectly.
>>1901243>that has no practical applicationWrong. Rarely saying "ult" or "heroic" =/= never saying "ult" or "heroic". Please learn to read.
>30-minute long, hard-fought game on Infernal Shrines>it all comes down to the last obj>both teams are nearing 30 skeletons killed>major cooldowns have been exchanged>D.va has 100% self-destruct charge to secure the last skeletons>but her hp bar won't last much longer>"I'm going to use my ult!" the D.va player yells in coms>"ready!!" replies the team>she Bunny Hops>team too shocked to react to the 5-man wipe>"What? I said I was going to ult"
>>1901246>minor corrections that only serve to annoy peopleWhere you honestly confused and unable to follow the conversation because we said Tyreal had an ult?>dude don't cross the street without checking for cars>sees bus, walks in front of itFucking dumb cunt.
>>1901273>Where you honestly confused and unable to follow the conversation because we said D.Va had an ult?FTFY. And, as a D.Va player, yes. Now stop whining.
>>1901272>typing out ult instead of just pinging the ability when it's ready Nice headcanon scenario that demonstrates exactly zero practical use for the correct terminology
>>1901275Who brought up DVa before you did?
>>1901283My main point throughout the exchange was that D.Va has both an ult and a heroic. Of course I'm going to bring up the reason why the distinction matters at all.
>>1901286>this distinction wasn't relevant until I brought it up>I'm not being a pedantic faggotlol, lmao
>>1901309It's relevant in real matches where people chat. Now quit whining.
>>1901314So it's not relevant here and now. And it's not relevant in any match between randoms who will use pings exclusively, or friends who will use voice.>quit whining for the nth time go back
>>1901327>So it's not relevant here and now.It concerns the game as a whole. Conversations held outside of the game affect player perception once in the game, including terms they're acquainted with and the meanings they assign to the terms.>B-BUTNo more excuses. You're just looking for reasons to start shit and call people faggots and redditors. No way my correction really annoys you that much.
>>1901335What part of >someone who annoys others by correcting small errors, caring too much about minor details There's no way you actually felt your original post was important or a genuine contribution to the game knowledge and discussion in the thread. And for someone who thinks I'm whining you've typed more words out than I have about this.
>>1901335>uther says he's going to take his bubble ult>I'm so confused what he meant by this and was unable to plan my build around it
>>1901346>i-it's pedantry because... BECAUSE IT IS OKAYIt matters in real matches because of a character that has both an ult and a heroic. There is no pedantry here. Cope and seethe.>And for someone who thinks I'm whiningYou've been much more aggressive than me ITT and you can't actually disprove that there is a meaningful distinction. So yes, you're whining.
>>1901357>>bubble ult>>I'm so confused what he meant by thisCorrect. I'd do a double take at the word "ult", then I'd have to ask which heroic he means, because who even calls either of his Rs a bubble? Does that mean the invuln bubble or the big stun bubble?
>>1901360>it's not pedantic because it just isn't okWow, good argument. Multiple people all used the term ult and we all knew what it meant until you showed up confused and disoriented for some reason. >you're just upsetYes, I'm upset that you're a fucking retarded faggot and have insisted on shitting up the thread with this for like 40 posts now. Kill yourself.
>>1901365>I would be confused because I'm literally a retardHoly fuck lol.
>>1901365>RWhat if I changed the keybind? Do you mean his Divine Shield Heroic ability? I don't know what a big stun bubble is, sorry
>>1901366>>it's not pedantic because it just isn't okWhat part of>It matters in real matches because of a character that has both an ult and a heroic.do (You) not understand? Are you seriously this dense? It matters. There is a real distinction. This is a reason why it matters. Quit posting.>Yes, I'm upset that you're a fucking retarded faggot and have insisted on shitting up the thread with this for like 40 posts now. Kill yourself.Feel free to stop giving me posts to reply to at any time :)
>>1901373Luckily, I wouldn't say "which R is that". I would say "which heroic is that", as I just call them heroics. Hope that helps.
>>1901280>yells in comslearn2read
>>1901376Must be embarasisng to be this wrong after this long lol. Feel free to find the official blizzard document that refers to Tracer and DVa being the only heroes explicitly as having Ultimate Abilities
>>1901391>unofficial wiki is gospel and can never be wro-Nope. Try again.
This is almost always said as a joke, but you faggots will literally argue about anything
>>1901403>not a real argumentI await your proof that your headcanon that tracer and DVa are the only heroes with ultimate abilities
>>1901415>>not a real argument because... um uh wellUnofficial wiki. Wrong on multiple occasions. Cope.>I await your proof that your headcanon that tracer and DVa are the only heroes with ultimate abilitiesBlizzard has not used the term "ultimate" in any official HotS material. Hope that helps.
Can we just discuss Cassia's tits
>>1901422>all hero levels in single-digitslol
>>1901424So you finally concede that Tracer and DVa are not the only heroes with ultimate abilities as distinct from heroic abilities? Holy fucking shit finally. >>1901431>heroes I don't play on a new account Your pathetic samefagging won't save you from objective proof that I'm correct. Sorry
>>1901427they aren't that big to warrant a discussion, but she has nice thighs, ass and hipshave you noticed how shiny orphea's lips are though?
>>1901436>So you finally concede that Tracer and DVa are not the only heroes with ultimate abilities as distinct from heroic abilities?Says who? Ultimate is a fanmade term (based on the very similar moves from Overwatch) that (You)'ve been all too eager to use incorrectly. >>heroes I don't play on a new account>he makes new accounts
OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>1901461>>1901463>blizzard hasn't used the term in any official material>it's a fanmade term only used by the communityUhh actually its right here. Oh shit this changes everything. Except of course you pinged it and didn't yell it in comes. So you're still wrong lol
>>1901448>he makes new accountsGo back lol
>>1901473>Uhh actually its right here.I'm an ESL who doesn't play the game in English. I figured the distinction out on my own, even before consulting the English client.>Except of course you pinged it and didn't yell it in comes. So you're still wrong lolThat was not my post.
holy shit, what is Anonymous going to do now after being blown the fuck out this hard? i'd ditch the name if i were him, so nobody know it's me
>>1901479>>1901486See>>1901420 >>1901422The game still calls them heroics, the patch notes call them heroics and the fan wiki calls them heroics. Apparently calling it an ultimate is a holdover from overwartch but considering I'm not a huge faggot I've never played it.
>>1901489You're confused. Bunny Hop and Micro Missiles are D.Va's heroics and not ults. Self-Destruct is an ult and not a heroic.On the other hand, Tracer's Pulse Bomb is both a heroic and an ult.
blud actually thought i'm part of the schizoramblings and quoted me :skull:
zarya is unironically a better tychus
>>1880744Imperius it's a loli now
>>1902060gay pedo shit
>>1902060Improvement
>>1902060Not even a good design. Wtf is wrong with weebs
>>1902060put me in the screencap
OH FUCKnow i can't stop playing for 24 hours....
>>1902335Alt-F4 out of the game, you will prevent the chest from being opened and, as such, the boost from being activated. Instead you will get to open the chest and accept the loot later.
I will now play imperius
Tyrael is black and that comic is promoting interracial relationships
>casually increases Q's healing by 90%
>>1902559this talent fucking blows the 16 upgrade thoughever
>>1902786It's a decent talent it just burns through mana.
Why is Morales devoid of morals?
>watch replay>on enemy perspective>I get a kill>the guy starts frantically pinging me and then his abathur
>>1904463Ally death, consequence of stupidity. Will keep soaking experience, spawning locusts. Remain unbothered.
>piss off enemy team so hard with landmines that all 5 of them go on a coordinated strike on me when my team wipes>deep tunnel to our spawn, while still soaking, pushing>them, frantically searching around the core, forts, while missing camps and XPI eventually realized that I don't have to be a great aba, just being annoying enough which makes the enemy team make unsound decisions.
I hate the slug so much, cunts think they are smart just filling bushes with mines, stupid drooling retards
>>1904602t. Tracer
>press tab>see slug do meme build>still facecheck every bushshit game eh
>>1904646This is the part I find funny, especially on whatever that map's called where you either have to free orcs or dwarfs. There's a bush behind a wall at each objective, I tend to pump those full of mines. If the game lasts 30 minutes, they're going to walk into them for 30 minutes.
>"Nooo! The infinite abyss!">"Frozen waist obey my cum hand!"what did he mean by this?
Save your words, PRIMATE. Spare me from hearing your orifice FLAP.
why can fire damage ragnaros
why can ragnaros damage fire
why does butcher get meat from probius
Why can stitches vore dragon alexstrasza or tychus mech
why can Abathur call a MULE (a terran technology) from outer space
>>1906294Why can Malfurion call a MULE?
>>1906319? post rank
>>1906327Based newfag.
why can illidan be blinded
>>1906329Your fault for using present tense.
>>1906294Because development stopped before they got around to making it a drone. Just like Nazeebo's ice block, and every Bribe.
>>1906534How hard can it be to make a drone model?
>>1906331Shut up
>>1906537It's as hard as two coasters on bobby koticks yacht are to make so Acti-Blizz prioritized
Ardent Restoration (Level 1) Diablo TyraelDealing damage to a Hero heals Tyrael for 20 (+4% per level) Health over 5 seconds. Dealing damage resets this timer, and the heal amount stacks up to 10 times.Quest: Every Regeneration Globe gathered increases this heal amount by 1%.>grab 100 globes>instead of healing for 40/s you heal for 80/sWhy is the scaling so shit?
>>1906925It's a really strong ability to begin with. It increasing at all is just a bonus that isn't really necessary to make the talent viable
>>1906949>It's a really strong ability to begin with. Maybe, but why bait players into globe hunting when the bonus is insignificant even if you grab 30-40 globes which is usually the max in a level 20+ game?
>>1906963Ding!
>ARAM>somehow their thrall got isolated from their team and started dueling my thrall away from the 4v4>we stacked our E quest on each other like autists for a solid 2 minutesfunny
>>1902495nice
>>1906537They don't even need to make anything new, the game runs on sc2 engine, sc2 has a drone model (several, in fact), there's graphics for zerg shit being deployed from orbit, it's a matter of copy&paste there's no excuse.Unless they never intended for it to be drone after the talents rework
>>1907458Or, there *was* no excuse I should have said. Everything I wrote above pertains to the time period between abathur being left the only hero left with a mule talent and development being axed
>>1906925Not picking the more ally shield talent lv1 is trolling
>>1907496There's always this one dumb fuck I swear.>you're trolling if you don't take talent I think is best>it doesn't matter if it's the lowest win rate talent by a huge margin>it doesn't matter if it doesn't fit tyreals actual playstyle>it doesn't matter if it's weak on paper>you need to match the meta in my fucking woodleague brain or you're throwing the matchFuck you you stupid cunt and literally everyone who thinks like you.
>>1907604calm down
>>1907693Absolutely fucking not. Retards deserve open contempt and hate
>>1907740Dont care, will pick it
>>1908412Good, I hope you do. I wasn't upset over your talent choice, I was actively getting upset over retards who pass their judgment over others talent choices. I only called out that one because your dumb ass was trying to act like it was the only good one.People picking what works for them, knowing their hero and their goals and building towards them is part of the game. Blind meta slaves sitting there screeching >you can't bruise with that hero>you can't take that talent>you can't take that hero on this map need to be killed. Play your hero and I'll play mine.
>>1908469There are objectively bad talents and objectively good talents though, not saying this about this particular case because I don't care about Tyrael but that's a weird hill to die upon>Raven's Intellect>Convection>Assimilation Mastery>Baneling Massacre
If you pick strife valla over rain of vengeance i will run it down
strafe 20 is actually good tho
>>1908490Don't care. You play your hero and I'll play mine. If you end the game 1-12 I'll call you trash, and you are, and maybe that has to do with your talent choice. But I'm not particularly interested in micromanaging other people's playstyles and talent choices as a general rule.
>>1908543>Don't care. You clearly care a lot about not caring lol>picking a talent that objectively makes your hero worseI won't micromanage you, but I'll afk and report you for griefing
>>1908570You're a very stupid person you know that right?
>>1908792Not an argument, plus you're reported for picking Convection
>your hero has 3 equally viable lv1 talentsHah
>>1908804>not an argumentpearls before swine. I've wasted enough time on a literal retard already
Never mess... with a mother
>>1908543>If you end the game 1-12 I'll call you trashenjoy being silenced
>>1909285Oh no, the pissy pants redditor is here again. Fuck.
>>1909181alex SEXO
Is anyone here enough of a hots oldfag to have the “le preparations man” and “le bottle throwing lycanthropy man” images from ye olden /hotsg/? I can’t find them and I need them for shitposting purposes
>>1910470I LOST MY HOTSG FOLDER
>>1910471Same, that’s why I am here on my knees begging for the assistance of the elder council
Why are Qhira and Kerrigan so fucking strong. These bitches are bruisers, not an Assassin.
>>1910680Qhira loses 50% effectiveness the moment cleanse or some form of unstoppable can break her spin, and Kerrigan is hard to play correctly
>>1881631>Buff main ability by 20%>Still badDo it again.
just rework lili, she's unironically the most boring hero in the game, and because of that she must also stay shitty because of low skill ceilingfor starters, make her Q still throw tea for healing, but it is AOE and it's less effective for each friendly hero caught in it
>>1910722>for starters, make her Q still throw tea for healing, but it is AOE and it's less effective for each friendly hero caught in itto clarify this if it wasn't obvious, the Q is now a skillshot ability
>>1910722there's nothing wrong with having "low skill ceiling" heroes and "high skill ceiling" heroes in the same game, this is how you end with diversity, synergy and more importantly FUN
>>1910722>every hero has to be the samego back to the wow forums you faggot
>>1910722>because of that she must also stay shitty because of low skill ceilingGo back to Apex. It's fine for easy characters to be good.
>>1910731indeed, there is nothing wrong with them, which is why Raynor tier heroes are fine in my booklili however, is below even that>>1911128there are plenty of easy characters in hots that are insanely good though?i'm not familiar with apex btw, nor do i care to be>>1910741>>1911128quote the part where i said every hero needs to be the samealso, there is no healer in the game which heals the way i said lili is ought toinstead of being such a hurt and upset little crybaby faggots, you should've just said you enjoy lili the way she ischrist, you're so angry over a post describing a theoretical change which will never see the light of day. As if I had any power over the next patch. It's not that surprising though, the most continuous "discussion" this general ever sees these days are some faggots seething at each other over inane shit (see: heroic vs ult)but you will seethe at this post as well, even though neither this or the previous one was made in bad faith, but your brain has been permanently damaged by ranked and there's now way back now
playing a moba for the first time and about i'm silver in 2 or 3 wins playing the zul'jin aa build with a +80% winratei love this game so much
>>1911419>also, there is no healer in the game which heals the way i said lili is ought to"skill shot" heal is just deckard's pots with an extra stepyou're talking about "balance" and "skill expression" but forgetting that "uniqueness" (which lili already has) is also important
>>1911419Raynor is a hard hero, if playing AA pepper that is
>>1911419>there are plenty of easy characters in hots that are insanely good though?Correct. Li Li can be another one of those. A girlfriend-core character being not trash tier would be a positive, not a negative.
>>1911467>A girlfriend-core characterthat would be brightwing, with her turn-your-brain-off passive heal and Z that comes too late or just in time to spread kt bombs
>>1911488Brightwing is a flying lizard that tends to say unsettling things in a cute voice. Not as GF-core as a small panda with feminine clothing and an innocent personality.Also, BW's Z inherently imposes map awareness tax on the player and five of her skills (excl. talents) require pointing with the cursor onto something. On the other hand, Li Li only has one such ability (excl. one talent) and always putting the snake on yourself is not as big of a liability as doing that with BW's skills.
Gall is too forgiving to play and needs a mana bar like everyone else
>>1911717And he needs to get stunned when Cho is stunned
why is every russian so bad at this game?
why is every mexican refusing to communicate in english?
>>1911765to make you cope>>1911840to make you seethe
I'm an awful tank player but for some reason I have 70% wr in that role in ARAM
>>1912054Cuz in ARAM your ability to read the map and actually make good calls and lead your team around the map is entirely secondary to your ability so smash buttons on cooldown
Is Artanis difficult?
>>1912429>is a bruiser who has no escape difficult?
>>1912429He's simple in theory but difficult in execution. Knowing when you can go in and what you're capable of is incredibly vital with him. Biggest piece of advice is don't go for godswaps overly much, it's suicide more often than anything else. It's better to use your prism for its Unstoppable, and to simply move around heroes at close range 99% of the time.Secondly is once you go in don't try and get back out. Due to his trait he's literally better off just pushing forward and continuing to attack rather than trying to escape almost every time. You usually won't make it out, but you can do a lot of damage and soak a lot by just attacking and keeping your shield going as long as possible.
>>1913260>don't go for godswaps overly muchI think this is the wrong mindset, you absolutely should gamble for swaps on cd and treat it like a Stitches hook or an Alarak pull to try to isolate someone for an easy killE4 gives you 30 armor for 5s, 1.5s of which you're unstoppable, then you can blind them for 4s at 10so practice swaps, reverse swaps (E + backward Q) into towers, and some more swaps
>>1913365>you should constantly waste mana and cooldowns to try and put yourself wildly out of position with a hugely telegraphed ability This guy never plays artanis against anything higher than silver. You can see a swap coming a mile away and the artanis who does it is just as likely to put the tank or a melee assassin into his backline as he is to secure a kill. You're better off walking up to their tank, simply swapping him at point blank so he can't dodge it and then use W to charge their backline.
>>1913398>you're better off playing this hero with massive displacement potential as a glorified melee creeplol okaythen why the fuck would you pick artanis in the first place if you're going to save your E for a selfish self-unstoppable
>>1913460>Why would you play the hero the way he's designed and not as a shittier stitchesGee I don't know
>>1913731very narrow mindset, you can't be helped
>>1913751>don't try to give a player new to the hero advice on how to play him effectively>instead you should give shit advice thats more likely to get him killed and his teammates frustrated or you're a close minded chudYou're not helping anyone here retard. Perhaps next time someone asks something give them an answer yourself instead of arguing with the only person who did.>>1912573Oh nvm, seems you're just a piece of shit. I hope you get fucking gonorrhea
>>1913906timidly playing Artanis like melee minion with a self-unstoppable you waste on the tank is not playing him effectively lolyou HAVE to go all-in with Artanis because as you said once you're in, you don't get out, you're in to trade and proc your trait and soak damageArtanis is a bruiser who can MAKE PLAYS which includes wild swaps that land you into a 1v4 (which you can tank for a long time with 4s blind and spell shield)
>>1913909>go all inLike I said? The difference is that my going all in is using his abilities in a way that will provide consistent and reliable returns. Your idea is to play him like some retard bronze fishing for heckin upvotes on reddit with your one big godswap game winning play while ignoring the 600 times you either missed and just wasted a cooldown, put the enemy Imperius into your backline, committed suicide or ended up on the wrong side of a gate. Every fucking time is the same. Someone asks a question, literally nobody fucking answers except for me, and then you spend more time arguing with me about what I said based on some bullshit headcanon you have. I'm fucking done. Fuck this thread and fuck you guys. Let's see how long this shit takes to fucking die now that it's just got you and that bitch redditor who fucking reports me every week
>>1913920nothing bronze about what I said Artanis is a difficult hero to learn because part of the learning curve is practicing swaps and feeding/griefing a lot because you swapped the wrong person at the wrong time, so yeah Artanis IS difficult and not a some random melee minion with a self-unstoppable with a Very Easy difficulty rating>I'm fucking done.see ya next week
>>1913924
>>1913920Maybe you could stop seething at the slightest sign of tomfoolery.
>REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT
are Li Li and Li Ming related
>>1914550yeah; they're both my wives
I have no fucking idea how i am supposed to play Alarak, i assumed this would be easy, just pull-silence-thunder ez pezin reality i mess up pull and sit around doing fuckall, i swore the pull was a point blank ability and not something so complicated to quickcast
>>1914643skill issue, the solution is to practice there's no magic to it, you can't play kerrigan without hitting your combo and you can't play alarak if you can't pixel perfect pull someone from 10 range or whatever it is
>>1914643Muscle memory. Hold your mouse over pull's icon on the HUD when doing rudimentary travelling until you can visualise its range like the back of your hand.
I like how Alarak's Q has these side blades like a sith lightsaber
Is that your best healing?
>>1914643The IDEA is to be better than your enemy, you know.
>>1914765yeah about that. . .
>November 2025>Blizzard blog post teases a new map for HotS>update releases one month later>it's just an ARAM map>an ARAM version of Alterac Pass, with Drek'Thar and Vanndar core replacementsHow would (You) feel?
haven't played Alex in a hot minute, is Q build still the way to go
>>1915694More often than not, yes
>>1915694Should be unless you coordinate with 4 others to pick globe talents
pretty cool how the faggot bird gets to have leyline every 5s after level 16
>>1910722She was more fun when blinding winds could be kept up by throwing an extra one with W so she could be played as a pest. But they decided that was too much skill or something so now she is the healer that holds Q for medium healing.
WOW I SURE LOVE TRASHMOUSE NON INTERACTIVE TRAPS THAT CHASE YOU WITH NO DURATION SO IT CAN SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR LANE FOREVER
>>1919896Correct. I love leading them into trash spots or bad targets and wasting them.
>>1917194How old ago was that?
li li breeding sex
Let this be the 400th and final reply of this dead thread. I think Yrel's cute!!
>>1922730Only cute in her skins.
>>1921163So?
>Qhira's page on RedditVeins>"good Offlane">tier list on RedditVeins>no Qhira in the offlaner section>same with Valeera
>>1924267she's not an offlaner generally speaking but she's okay as a counterpick on something like braxisAA build is surprisingly tough to handle for most traditional offlaners and she can't really be ganked with her trait
You now remember Garroshposter[Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed][Embed]Also is the game still alive? I haven't played in years
>>1927278The game is alive but would have been more so under Dustin
I want to ride Lunara like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK2PyG-UZhw
>>1927278if it were deader it would be the person in charge of balancing Nova
>>1927577
>>1928058What did he mean by this?
Tyrande is such an infuriating hero to play unless have 100% uptime on autos for Q cdr
BEGONE FROM MY REALM, INCELS
Probably a bronze take but Valeera feels incredibly unfair to fight
>>1930885just stay with your friends
>>1930895Bitch stabs me then smokebomb with 50 armor and finishes me off
>>1930885she is designed to feel unfair, but her value drops if you group up, probably one of the worst ARAM heroes for this reason
>>1930885If the hero you play has no mobility and unreliable ways of revealing her, no wonder you feel that way.
Why isn't Azmodan labelled a bruiser with his fat HP pool, conditional damage and off-laning ability?
>>1934407bruisers have self sustain, he doesn'tconditional damage means nothinghe loses offlane to a murky
what is the flashy "if I spend 6 million hours on this one hero I can 1v9 with sheer micro" of hots?
>>1934688Li Ming (trait is literally resetting all her cds on a takedown)Zeratul (infinite micro potential)Alarak (anti-hero with very low utility beyond that)Tracer (Recall rewards limit pushing)Abathur (for the 20 seconds you clone someone which means you probably need to learn 60 heroes not 1)
>>1934688Qhira
>>1934688Genji with timely deflects and dash resets.
>>1930953ngmi
>match ends at 18 minutes>Kel ends with 29 quest stacks
>>1938081KNOW THE FINITE ABYSS!
how's the asian server for the 0.3 people here who play on it?
>>1939027You'd have better luck asking in their general chat.
Is D.Va's Halloween palette swap the only item that costs a number of shards not divisible by 5?
>>1940007a discrepancy that will forever live in infamy
