again the legacy battlepass grind is annoying sorry if I wasnt a day 1 goy. I also dont play cash out and I only play the payload mode

>S8 in 2 weeks
>no teaser or even leaks
Wow, nobody gives a shit anymore it seems

>>1931793
Good, quick cash is shit

>>1931795
BUT GUYS MO1STCR1TKAL SAID THIS GAMES UNDERRATED AS FUCK AND ITS THE MOST UNDERRATED SHOOTER EVER!!!!!

>>1931804
And in the same weekend when he posted that video, player numbers stayed below the 20k mark, exactly the same they had been for the past few weeks. I'll be suprised if the viewercount for the major will break 150k.

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>>1931804
Yeah I don’t know, every e celeb basically praises the game whenever they cover it. Is it too sweaty? The game show aesthetics turns people off? It doesn’t even filter people all these videos get what? Millions of views but no one seemingly tries it. They all watch a video, agree, and then never play it while they pay themselves on the back.

>>1931795
In all likelihood, teaser tomorrow, but the thread wasn't gonna hold out until then. Board has to make room for a dozen more /vg/ expats and roblox servers apparently

>>1931827
The finals is like the opposite of call of duty near instant praise online every second it’s mentioned yet none of the playerbase yet cod has basically been shat on for the last decade and it’s still the most popular

>>1931793
I bought the season 1 legacy BP and season 7 at the same time and got all the good shit from the S1 Legacy pass first. You don't need to get everything, just skip the shit like emoticons and sprays only buy them if you need to spend to progress the page

>>1931827
Genuinely I just think it’s the setting of the game show most fps fans just want it vaguely military.

Notice I said VAGUELY ignore modern cod

>>1931827
If a majority of ecelebs who aren’t even paid to shill the game praise and their audiences don’t budge then I don’t know what will. The games probably easier to watch than play like an actual game show

>>1931827
It's got a few things working against it.

Part of it is that the game is just too unique. Destruction forces player to un-learn years or even decades of experience regarding map control. Even with Payload and TDM being added, Cashout is still THE main gamemode, and the cheeky robberies surrounding the game can be super frustrating for new players. Multi-team means you really gotta adapt how you defend a point, and even almost 2 years in, most players still don't know how to do it and instead cry about 3rd-Partying and Grief-Qualifying. Not to mention there's some inherent wackiness that isn't bad but goes against their preconceived notions of balanced play or what a shooter should be as well.

Part of it is that it's just fundamentally hard to attract people within this space. It's a shooter, so everyone's already got one to play and spend FOMO time on instead. The small team factor means that people want to play with friends, but that means convincing your buddies to install a 60GB game that might not run the best on their aging hardware.

Ends up leaving a lot of people to say "yeah that's sick, but it's just not for me," but think they're entitled to kudos or that they've participated in the community by stating it's good and then doing nothing.

>>1931827
I think Kelski actually plays it a lot but others like you said play it once, says it’s awesome, and then leave

>>1931827
do not listen to this retard >>1931907

>>1932106
This is /vm/, anon. You don't need to emptily bump the thread with nothing to say to keep it alive. Unlike /v/ and /vg/, you actually should have a counter-argument, or else you're just a gay shitposter.

>>1931827
Criticals video does jackshit, there is a major issue in this community over the insane amount of fake toxic positivity.

The reddit is currently praising the changes to the games review scores (ignoring the fake the scores were fucked due to china) and now think Charlie saved the game

Everyone and their sister started playing this in my circles. It's like another fortnite situation:
>cute spin on an established gamemode
>huge asian publisher becomes a big shareholder and investor
>eCelebs latch on
Now the next steps are crossovers and an influx of kids through promotions and thats it.

>>1932358
>Now the next steps are crossovers
Honestly if there was any kind of game that wouldn't suffer so much from being fortniteified with crossover, it's the one where it's about an actual Game Show with sponsors. That being said, it would still be gay since I like how the sponsors have been entirely fictional so far and that there is a contained world to the game.

>>1932362
The world is so miniscule and not established enough for crossovers for now. But of course that can change, they dump some lore every update as far as I've seen

>>1932358
Or nexon forces coomer skins

>>1932362
Friend of mine kept telling me how cool it would be if shit like coca cola would be advertised in game and I keep thinking "man I don't wanna see that shit while I'm playing"

the fun of the sponsors is that they're fictional

>>1932582
I'd be okay with fictional sponsors from another game bringing crossover skins but I couldn't list any for you off the top of my head.

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>>1931212
I'm thinking of buying it but i'll wait to see what they offer in season 8 before I make the decision.

On one hand i do wanna support the guys in stockholm Embark, in the other hand I don't want a single cent to go to the Nexon chinks after reading their lawsuit history.
A f2p needs 3 seasons to save up for a battlepass so I might just wait it out. Not too strapped for fashion

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>>1932310
The reddit sucks just like every multiplayer shooter.
Just take a look at the winch complaints. The second the hammer is nerfed it's onto whining about the winch, once that's nerfed it'll be the Shak, then the SA12
You can tell it's just populated by console retards, you can take a look at the most recent posts and a good chunk of them are always console lights posting their dogshit clips.

>>1933096
>look at ones that actually have updoots n' shit
>it's just comedy clips or people jokingly showing up when the detection is shonky
Smells like you're trying to cook a narrative

>>1932310
Steam just changed the rules to reviews, at this rate Charlie is gonna get a bundle

>>1933096
there is zero fucking thought into counter play by anyone on that reddit. "Riot shield is overpowered! Double Barrel is overpowered! The CL40 is overpowered!" the average player experience there is full of low IQ retards

>Playing ranked
>intermediate, supposed to gain points even at 3rd place
>doing good, pass the first round
>second round
>game frozen during loading
>fuck have to alt +f4
>also have to restart PC because it fucks with my ssd for some goddamn reason
>do so
>reconnect
>continue the match as normal
>on the last cashout
>we loose because the retards from orange team 3rd party us (they also lost, for the record)
>we get 3rd place, still some points in theory
>check RS gain
>-1000 RS
>WTF
>Matchmaking Suspention
Swedish people need to KILL THEMSELVES, THIS GAME IS POORLY CODED TRASH, HOW IS THIS READY FOR A FUCKING MAJOR

>>1933382
>playing ranked
That was your first mistake. The push for ranked and Majors is entirely on Nexon, and against the spirit of the game. Maybe you should go back to playing CS:GO

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>>1933382
>Playing ranked

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>>1933415
>>1933418
>dissing on ranked
oh no he's coming

>>1933415
There was ranked matchmaking as far back as the first beta
let's not pretend it was all a "they made us do it" situation. They forced them to push ranked TA, but ranked was always in their mind from the start.

>>1933564
>There was ranked matchmaking as far back as the first beta
And anyone that has actually played the game knows that it was never actually a true "Ranked," and it's why demands for a "proper" ELO-style system where you can wave dick and obsess about your ranked points was a huge demand in the first few seasons.

Embark's ""Ranked,"" where "any player could theoretically make it to Diamond Tier by the end of the season, simply by playing the game enough" is what eventually morphed into World Tour. Actual Ranked wasn't added until much later, and is certifiable homosex. If you play Ranked after Season 2, you are having sex with men.

>>1933729
Stay in casual then shitter, no need to muddy everything up with your bad opinions

The spawns are so broken it's not even funny
the spawn system update that rolled out recently is honestly so fucking bad, why does it always prefer to push for 3rd parties? Either we get to stare at nothing and get a free cashout or it's a WWE cage match against 3 teams. Don't even get me started on spawning 50 meters to the left of another team. I have a clip of that happening troday.

also the cashout spawn logic for the 22k boxes is so bad, they spawn like 70-80 meters away from eachother!!

>>1933764
Funny, that's exactly what I tell rankoids myself
Embrace casual instead of trying to dickwave, you retard. The shit you fags push to try to make your corporate-mandated mode more tolerable fucks up the game for everyone else.

>>1933729
I mean they had to go ahead and make a retard baby proof mode for you idiots. It's like the partecipation award for the finals. It even has less rules and no wipe on loss which is so dumb.

>>1933805
>I mean they had to go ahead and make a retard baby proof mode for you idiots
Meanwhile, Ranked players complained about a piece of metal on a stick being "overtuned and unbeatable"
Stay in your lane, little bro. It's got baby bumpers for you.

Ranked is the most fun way to play the game. There's actual stakes and everyone at least pretends to try. World tour is a mixed bag of retardation.

>>1933935
I think the most fun mode was actually single cashout, since it still had stuff like money loss on team wipe while being short enough for just one round so there wasn't a worry about things like teams choosing who to get second because only first place won.

>>1933935
Ranked is the absolute worst way to play, but Cashout Tournament and Single Round Cashout are the most fun gamemodes. It's a shame they axed Unranked Tournament, and it'd be great if those weeks in World Tour that called themselves "Classic Cashout" actually did function on old rules

>>1933959
Yeah that's what I miss that WT just isn't
Unranked Tournament just felt better to play

>>1934495
dayum, nice quad kill anon

>soloq ranked
>get another heavy
>running charge and hammer
>wierd choice but whatever
>every fight we take
>he does nothing and instead starts destroying the surrounding buildings
>impossible to take fights in because of debris
>does the same on our own sites, making it worse to defend
>has mines
>never placed one
>has C4
>never used it
>doesn't even play with the team, just fucks off and breaks shit
>me and my other teammate try (well he's playing heals and doesn't heal so there's that)
>suprise surpise
>we lose
what is wrong with these people

>>1934727
see >>1933415 and >>1933418

>>1934735
rent free

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>>1934727
>he does nothing and instead starts destroying the surrounding buildings

>>1934727
if it was WT I would assume you're talking about me kek
destruction is half the reason I'm here. I'll be damned if I don't spend my time sledgehammering every building over two stories tall. some teammates hate, but idc. I'm just here for the whimsy

>>1934984
I specifically said it was ranked
the people you find in soloq are some of the most mentally deficient people i've ever seen. Just today, I met the guy I talked about earlier, then 2 console players who quit the match after they rushed in and got killed immediatley. Then another match with a guy that went 0-5 with sub 1k damage in the whole match. And last but not least, 2 lights who started trolling mid game and spammed heil hitler and neeger. There is something wrong with these people.

>>1934735
why are you complaining about the ranked playlist when you can just play WT or literally any other playlist

>>1935061
What rank are you? I soloq exclusively, and besides the occassional redditor faggot who thinks that trying to steal a cashout instead of trying to fight the team fight is a good idea- I usually meet people who are trying to sweat.

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>>1935109
>why are you complaining about the ranked playlist when you can just play WT or literally any other playlist
I do play the other modes I enjoy more. I only touch ranked when my ranked obsessed friends want to play together with me or I want to play with them.
I am complaining because it is taking away limited swede devtime from the parts of the game I actually enjoy and also because balancing for ranked and not World Tour is actively homogenizing the game into AR galore CoD with a few wacky gadgets added in instead of something truly unique in the FPS space, like it was a while ago. This is largely because the reserve is disabled in ranked, so everyone is encouraged to pick the most generally applicable options possible instead of specializing and being able to adapt your active loadout to the given situation.
Everything that does perform better than assault rifles in its specific niche is also gutted immidiately, except lights double barrel bullshit cannon and sniper rifle for some reason. My issue here with them isn't that they're powerful, it's the lack of consistency in balancing philosophy, either let the specialized weapons shine or get it over with and run the game into the ground like they seem to be intending to.
I'm fine with ARs being generalists, but melee and shotguns are supposed to be oppressive in close quarters and precision weapons are supposed to be very strong at range and reward precision.
Taking games a little more seriously to win is fine, hell, I even enjoy having to focus to get a win, but competitive/ranked in video games was a mistake and so was "skill based" match making.

>>1935164
Enabling reserve would enable more creative play- yeah. But i play in Plat 2 / Plat 3 lobbies. Sure, about 60 to 70% of players run SMG, Rifle, or LMG- but there's still a pretty good spread of melee and more atypical weapons.

I see at least 1 M26 on Light each game- occasional Cerberus' or Models. SA1216s are literally high elo Heavy meta. I see Bows and Throwing knives every other game, and they usually dominate the lobby. Flamethrowers are still just as annoying-

Ive been seeing a lot of Riot Shield, Swords, and Sledge especially after each recent buffs to the first two.
Yeah it's an anecdote but I don't think the balance is as gutted as you think it is. Even on Light atm, the V9S is the meta pick for the sweatiest players since it has a faster TTK than the M11 if you can click fast enough.

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>>1935358
>I see Bows and Throwing knives every other game, and they usually dominate the lobby.
I've been perplexed at those two having infinite ammo (as in no reloads), but I'm going to assume that's also from when there were a lot more ways to deal with lights quickly like giving a weapon that has to be a twoshot or twoshot + quick melee or be completely useless with it's only limiting factor be range, to the class that has multiple ways of easily getting close was a choice from that time. Either make light squishier again (bring back more ways of dealing with light effectively, not nerf light directly) or give those two weapons reloads, not that that would magically fix light.
>SA1216s are literally high elo Heavy meta.
And the alternate choice for said high elo heavies is the ShAK-50, a generalist AR, which will take the spot of the SA1216 when winch inevitably gets gimped for no reason.
>Ive been seeing a lot of Riot Shield, Swords, and Sledge especially after each recent buffs to the first two.
Riot shield is used because remembered that the hitboxes for it are still fucked.
Sword and sledge are getting more attention due to recent changes.
Do you really need to be reminded that sledge was gutted recently, with the changes being somewhat walked back on due to massive community backlash?
>the V9S is the meta pick for the sweatiest players since it has a faster TTK than the M11 if you can click fast enough.
Stats back that up, ever so slightly though. Doubt a 0.03 to 0.07 second difference in TTK makes that big of a difference in actual gameplay. Would personally take the slightly better damage at range of the M11, but I only ever play light for challenges.
>I don't think the balance is as gutted as you think it is.
It probably isn't as bad as it feels for me, but I don't trust swede game developers. They always seem to strike gold with fun and engaging core gameplay, but then seemingly to want to ruin it with future additions and/or other changes.

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>>1935452
Riot shield is used because people* remembered that the hitboxes for it are still fucked.
Along with the general wordiness of this, gonna have to go to sleep.

>>1935109
>just play WT
World Tour is absolute shit with even more brainless teammates and enemies.
Ranked is the only mode with a sensible format with players who at least pretend to try

>>1935452
V9S has better range and has been the best light gun since launch. still is.

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>>1935483
Forgot to account for the 2.5x higher damage per shot of the V9S compared to the M11 (16 vs 40). My apolocheese.
M11's max dropoff range is actually ~2m longer than the V9S though, but again, 2.5x higher base damage.

>>1935477
I agree with you anon
>>1935452
>And the alternate choice for said high elo heavies is the ShAK-50, a generalist AR, which will take the spot of the SA1216 when winch inevitably gets gimped for no reason.
Youre right that the ShAK-50 is the alternative option. I always swap off whatever specialist option I have for a generalist weapon on third round anyway in ranked. But the fact that a specialist weapon has a general even split with something so generalist can demonstrate specialist weapons shouldnt be binned so quickly. Plus in all honesty, I fucking hate the SA1216, its the only shotgun in the game I really can't wrap my head around.
>It probably isn't as bad as it feels for me, but I don't trust swede game developers.
I get it- games like Helldivers 2 and the abyssmal launch of Payday 3 kinda makes me wary about most multiplayer swedish game experiences. But at the end of the day, games are games- and they're still meant to be fun and they shouldnt have much bearing on your life. Going to extremes and feeling vitriolic just doesnt sound like its worth it for a live service multiplayer game.

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I like it when things go boom.
When buildings crumble and strucures fall apart.
Lights on fire and mediums stuck in rubble.
Heavy build for this feel?

>>1935553
I like hanging out in TDM with Goo Gun and Sledge hammer and pretending to play Minecraft Creative mode. People get really really upset that I don't really play the game and just fuck around making goo sculptures.

>>1935623
I'm on CnS and hammer but I really should try goo.
The map is pretty leveled by the time the match ends in TDM. I do keep a kdr above 1 tho, since a light inevitably wanders into my rampage every now and then.

>>1935508
man I preordered Payday 3

>>1935720
god- the core of that game is actually pretty good now. It needs a massive overhaul to the skill system, but the game feels really good to play. There's just zero fucking content associated with it- its so not worth buying right now

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>>1935109
I was plat 2
but then we met perzzzon 3 times in a row
and then fikolas twice
and we started duo queueing and the 3rd was always retarded
so I landed my ass straight back onto fucking gold.

Like what am I supposed to do when I get teammates like picrel

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>>1935722
Oh, don't misunderstand, I knew very well how shit it was gonna be. I saw starbreeze fuck me over multiple times, ask for my money over and over and like a good little idiot, I gave it to them. And I saw all the signs of Payday 3 being a spectacular flop and buddy, those first row seats were something. Haven't touched this game in 2 years.

Remember, with swedes, you loose. It's 100% a fact. Think of any mild to major flop that happened in gaming and atleast half of it was from a swedish studio.

I miss animation cancelling the SA12 cycle... I started getting really good with it and then they rolled out that update...

I will say though, I got better with it recently. As a heavy that mostly plays with a ShAK, I will loose engagements against SA12 users.

>>1935726
thats honestly really funny- i wish you could block people that are objectively just dogshit to play with.
>>1935729
I put in about 100 hours into Payday 3 to give it a bit of a chance and man. There just isnt much to be excited for. Im sure in liike- 8 years, Payday 3 will be worth playing, but if they cant roll out the content for it...well- I hope Den of Wolves ends up being good. I really liked GTFO.

https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/playstyles
New system for newcomers, neat

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>>1935842
>Very first playstyle option is grapple sniper crane camper

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>>1935830
> i wish you could block people that are objectively just dogshit to play with.
another extract from my mis-adventures
As I said earlier, had 2 controller lights who quit the game after they got demolished in the second fight, leaving me to also quit and lose RS. This is how they were playing.

I admit, i'm not the best player and I'm playing on a toaster. But holy fuck, how do these people even exist.

>>1935859
More liggers to bumrush and rape

>>1935842
>Grapple sniper
A new player will pick up the sniper for 3 seconds, miss every shot and decide to play something else
>cloak and TKs
TKs are used with dash, just spam left right and hold left click. Infinite ammo bullshit ensues.
>Dash and M11
yeah that one's ok

>heavy's playstyles
They're mostly fine but RPG and Dome are like must haves

>Medium's playstyles
some don't have the Defib. Why. Defib is the most must have gadget ever, same with jump pads

>teased demat nerf
real shit?

>>1936179
qrd

>>1934984
Why not just play quick cash if you want to do goofy shit like that? People say WT doesn't matter, but anyone with a brain still wants to win to get points.

>>1936183
look at the playstyles video and you can see the demat now having a slightly longer animation. My guess is that it will make it so enemy teams can see where you're coming from. Finally

>get the dreaded Lobby Fulla Lights
>pick medium
>win
wow

>>1936171
Now let's see your aim hitting one shot on a sword light while using Winch+Shak

>>1936179
>>1936229
>Nerf demat
>Nerf defib every season
>Nerf all the fun M guns leaving only the ARs and Pike (expect a nerf soon) as viable picks
>Give healing gadgets to heavy and light that are better than medium's heal SPECIALIZATION
They really don't want anyone playing this class

>>1936258
>Nerf all the fun M guns leaving only the ARs and Pike (expect a nerf soon) as viable picks
>people still asking for the CL-40 to be removed from the game
>cerberus still works wonders if people are obligated to come to you
>lever action rifle still works fine
medium's guns are fine lol, 1887 and revolver could potentially get some love somehow

demat desperately needs nerfs, it centers the game around itself. the healing situation is weird and bad I have no idea why light has stronger healing than medium now

>>1936299
The lever action is a contender for worst gun in the game, there is no reason to use it over the Pike

>>1936314
>long range, consistently accurate hitscan that two-taps light
>"the worst gun in the game"
come on now. the pike has it beat, it's true, but that's because the pike is FUCKED. it's a solid weapon.

>>1936258
>jump pad
>defib
>demat
>pike and famas
all great reasons to play the class

>>1936299
CB sucks ass man
CL is annoying but the counterplay is to just stay up and against a heavy, you either kill yourself from self damage or trade.
Cerberus is just shit now and that's a good thing.

>>1936253
I missed the winch and that basically means I die. But the guy in the clip was standing still and he was playing from controller with AA. Kinda hard to miss a guy standing still instead of a light sword dashing through you.

>>1936404
CB is fine if you're allowed to play range which is easier said than done, feels very nice to poke with even if it's inferior to the pike. it's fucking MISERABLE against barriers however and dome shield is just the reality.
CL's a scrubkiller and will never stop being a scrubkiller until they completely gut it
cerb didn't suck ass at launch and doesn't suck ass now, it's a niche weapon. Boggles the mind how people think a weapon that lets medium brool with medium and instagib light up close while also countering gas or goo for free is irredeemable dogshit because it incurred a SLIGHT damage/range nerf

>>1936415
Back when cerb was meta, if I winched a cerb medium, I was guaranteed to loose the fight. No weapon should 1hko a class, that's why the DB is also total bullshit.
Remember, cerb used to 2 shot medium. Not 2 shot + qm, straight up 2 shot and if you didn't close the kill, chances are that the afterburn would. I'm glad it is how it is now because now you have to think a little before fighting instead of getting 2 shots in and killing a dude.

>>1936441
>No weapon should 1hko a class
I don't believe this, it's fine for shit to instagib light and DB would be perfectly fine if it required QM or full pellet spread to kill heavy.

>>1936507
I disagree, not even the sniper rifle 1 hits from body shots and on anything bigger than a light, not even headshots kill them. I think the db should do something like 145 or something that can be compensated with qm.

>>1936660
playing DB into lights is already actually absolutely miserable if the lights are good and refuse to just let you into point blank

sure it's an instagib, but light against light is already the fastest TTK in the game in general. we're talking about the difference between "instant" vs "under half a second." if the DB light doesn't catch you at point blank to begin with it's fucking over

>>1936665
I mean the gun 2 shots any class
but what most people seem to forget when they talk about this is that the teams are made of 3 people. Having a light distract you so much because he can 2 shot you means another asshole can come up and just finish the job for him. Same reason why I despise riot, on top of being incredibly annoying (yeah sure, fucking block my winch man, fuck off) most of the time it's because I'm focused on backing up and shooting him, while his teammates just dink me from far away and I can't do shit.

>>1936675
yeah the db's good, it just falls off/gets harder to use the better the enemy team is and I refuse to play it into light-heavy teams because an automatic will deal with them almost instantly while being less punishing with 30x the range, that's all.

>>1936682
>it just falls off/gets harder to use the better the enemy team
I agree
> because an automatic will deal with them almost instantly while being less punishing with 30x the range, that's all.
I disagree because dash exists and makes retreats/pushes so easy, especially when combined with other movement tools like TPs for pushing/quick getaways. Or even just flanking while your teammates aggro or just straight up interjecting into the fight, doing 165 dmg with one shot.

>>1936685
the thing is and i'm just talking about light v light, the auto light can have dash too. you use your mobility to get in, the light uses their mobility to get out and you're just cooked unless you managed a point blank ambush and instagibbed them.

>>1936694
but tracking isn't necessary with the DB.
One shot, boom, you're dead. Or you do the dreaded dance of the dashes as you duck and weave around bullets but the point is, in the same timeframe, you will almost always output more damage than he'll do

>>1936695
I find tracking a light with the MP5 or mac-11 generally easier and more reliable than attempting to twitch meatshot a light on my one chance knowing damn well that it's probably over if I miss but that's just me

>>1936701
I'm the opposite, I find tracking to be annoying since I always leave them with 1 hp while with the DB I just 1 shot them. I am also playing on a toaster with 60 fps so I quite literally cannot track anything properly, that's why I play winch with ShAK/SA12

>>1936701
That does vary from person to person. I can hit all my shots with the KS-23 against anyone, but tracking with the automatics can be hit or miss (bum dum tish)

i still have not seen a single player using the hammerhead ned skin

>>1938148
It's very ugly and very expensive. I assume only whales bought it and they probably lost interest the second the maid outfit came out

>>1938148
Big costume skins are never popular, since you can't mix and match

>>1938148
it looks like shit but it also gives you a huge disadvantage since there are little lightning bolts around your head and they're really visible

all melee lobbies are misery holy hell

>>1939937
just shoot them first, anon

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>>1939937
Gas/flame + lockbolt + S + M1

>>1940032
Why is that Spider-Man Cow cumming

>>1940051
Because it third party lockbolted 5 sword lights and pyro naded them

I WANT WALLRUNNING ADDED TO THE GAME RIGHT NOW

>>1940125
Yeah but like, they I doubt they can do it without feeling intrusive. Like the whole thing with destruction is that they want rubble to always function as a usable surface, roughly as you'd "expect," so things will quickly get awkward as pieces that are vertical enough to wallrun on might start filling the area and what not.

Wallrunning on collapsing walls and 9ver rubble sounds amazing. Imagine wallrunning and somene placed mines on the wall high up so you have a little obstacle course before you inevitably wallrun of the map. (Seriously, the reason TF|2 works is because there's nearly no death pits)

>>1940125
>>1940132
>>1940224
wallrunning makes sense for this game imo
could be a light ability with a sort of sprint timer cooldown
would unlock a new layer of movement skill

enough rubble should intentionally fuck it up desu

Let me sprint through glass
PLEASE LET ME SPRINT THROUGH GLASS
You can already run through the windows on Monaco so let me go through those completely transparent impossible to tell if they're already broken or not glass panels and shit on Skyway and Seoul

>>1940382
Make glass dirtier
Honestly, I feel like a mosquito trying to fly through a window every time when I bump my head on em

>>1939937
>Hammer
I can take him
>Spear
I can take him
>Dagger
I can take him
>Sword
I can take him
>Dual Blades
I can take him
>Riot
Not only I can't winch it, but his hitbox is completly fucked and I can't shoot him even if I wanted to. If he spins around fast enough, he can even kill a flamer heavy.

>>1940391
I don't want to see any changes to the riot shield besides fixing the awful broken hit box
It's interesting having a weapon that's very strong when played well against guns but very weak against other melee weapons and launchers. Though I expect it to be gutted and we'll take one step closer to the auto rifle only meta Embark dreams of

>>1940391
>If he spins around fast enough, he can even kill a flamer heavy.
this shit is infuriating as a flame main

you would logically think that the flamethrower would be the absolute best counter to riot sheild because you cant block the fucking fire engulfing you, but it still reguarly ends in a trade at best

>>1940462
>weak against launchers
It can tank CL shots.
also jesus the "auto rifle meta" argument is living rent free in your head, give it up, the currently strongest guns aren't even automatics like the pike, FAMAS, 93R, MASS, SA12 and so on, FCAR isn't even used extensively anymore at mid to high level play, it's all pike spam.

>>1940628
>FAMAS, 93R
They aren't literally "auto rifles" but they fit the mold of what I was implying with where the meta is heading. You don't play the Famas any different than you would an FCAR or the 93R and the old XP54
I'll give you the rest but I'll be surprised if the Pike doesn't see a nerf in Season 8

>>1936194
when they add a game mode like ranked cash out to quick play, I'll be there. in the meantime, you'll find me in WT. if you're in EU and there's a sledgehappy heavy, feel free to say hi to me anons ;)

>>1940805
>you play guns like... guns
I really don't get your train of thought here, you just sound like you're complaining because you're getting shot from far away

>I'll be surprised if the Pike doesn't see a nerf in Season 8
50 dmg per shot is a fuck ton, when the LH1 did 50 dmg per shot, it was nerfed within the week and for good reasons.

>>1940920
>you just sound like you're complaining because you're getting shot from far away
No? I'm complaining that they nerf everything that gains prominence in the meta that isn't a jack-of-all trades rifle/smg. It makes the game boring.
Medium is much less interesting to play after the nerfs to the Model/Cerb/CL-40

>>1940952
Model got buffed
and you wouldn't be saying this if you played during S3
Cerberus is like, ok now
there is plenty of evidence that it was, in fact, busted
People bitching about the CL, i'll never understand, it's a FINE weapon, it's only annoying if you play light

this is just how FPS games, especially competitive ones, are. Besides you complain about medium but ignore that heavy has been world class champion at getting the shaft in the nerfs department. Can count on one hand the ammount of buffs he's recieved other the whole gamespan

>>1940992
I should clarify about the CL40
it's fine NOW
back when S4 launched, it was infact, too strong

I would much prefer all guns/weapons being slightly overpowered but only in their niche. But thats's not possible with ARs and SMGs.
I can see a lot of inspiration for this game's class balance coming from tf2 so it's really baffling that they decided to put an AK into every new players hands and a rifle into every classes loadout, completely nullifying the variety the game offers in terms of significant loadout decisions. As is there's two loadouts for every class:
>meta picks that reddit cried to be buffed 24/7
90% of players are only familiar with things like ARs and grenades of various flavours due to them appearing consistently in nearly every shooter for the past 30 years. So they gravitate to that as a safe pick, because they behave the exact same eevery time.
>fun loadout
Something you can still be effective with if you have a brain OR just played more than just CoD, CS and similair normieslop AR fest.

And you can bet your ass now that ecelebs latched onto the game, they are gonna advocate to keep ARs and SMGs strong since that's what they used for years in normieslop to amuse masses.
Doubly so for esports lunatics.

>>1936396
meanwhile I'm running revolver and data reshaper

>play ranked with some really strong people
>we get into a match with 2 trash teams and one team with top 10 players
>we mop the floor with the other 2 trash teams and have a massive 37k headstart
>one team has 2 people quit out of desperation
>we try to split last
>but obviously the other strong team intercepts the other one and doubles
>they give bubbles to the other trash team
>they wipe and chase us
>the trash team that was with only 2k at the end of the game
>suddenly gets free 36k
>we got wiped so we were 34k ish
>lose

Haha, thanks

>next game
>we pair up against Bisha (probably cheating), Roma (THE top controller player) and PacolemTTV (beamer medium)
>all top 10/100 players
>they literally team with a team with a 2-2-2 team and they defend their cashout
>we LOSE

queue again

>constant 3rd party because one team is decent

queue again
>return of the top players
>they help last team attack us, going so far as even putting their own C4 to defend it

Ranked is flawed, I really wish some heinous shit happens live on the major and they're forced to address it. On top of the massive cheating, paid boosting, alt accounting, account selling and so on.

3rd party is a problem.