F2P Tarkov extraction game just released on SteamWhat are your thoughts so far? Did Delta Force steal their spotlight by releasing earlier?
>no proton supportShame, I love playing shitty f2p shooters for a month before going back to Quake.
>>1965538I played it for entire day, like 10hours yesterday.I got to like level 15, 5mil in cash and even in normals noob mode (non-ranked) I started getting matched with LVL30's.I saw Master ranks, Ace rank one guy had fucking S2 Legend rank badges or some shit on his banner. M4's decked out somehow.This is my first extraction shooter ever and once this started happening the experience sucked. I don't even know what I'm doing, still learning the map, learning to manage inventory and I'm getting fucked by 300hr, 500hr+ sweats. There must be some hidden mmr or some shit, I guess I was getting too many opp kills because no matter what game I can aim.Got my fill, uninstalled.
I've been enjoying it, seems way simpler than Tarkov and you don't get completely crumped if you lose everything by the replenishing basic gear coupon system
I had only ~200 hours in Tarkov by the time I stopped playing it a few years ago, so I'm still really fucking bad at pvp shooters, but I'm trying my hand at ABI and I like some of the things they're doing with the Tarkov formula. Other things less so.On one hand, you unlock weapon modding super-early, and can just slap together any kind of gun, test it out at the range with infinite ammo, tweak it, and simply buy all the parts assembled exactly as you want after finalizing the build making it retardedly easy to get whatever gun you want just by throwing in-game cash at the marketplace. I've already put together a really comfy Vector that I really like to use, and am looking forward to what kind of other guns I can put together. But on the other hand, this system makes finding cool guns in-raid or picking one off of killed players feel much less special. The flip side of ABI being free to play is that it has to make money in other ways, meaning a fuckload of obnoxious battle passes and cosmetics.The barter system with npc traders is less strict, where any given barter items simply represent a dollar value, and having the item will knock off an equal amount of the price when you go to buy it from the trader. So there are still valuable loot finds in-raid, but they're not as exciting since you can just straight-up buy that same item by selling a bunch of garbage instead. Maps and the loot they drop are split into tiers based on the overall price of the gear you load in with, so the beginners can go into raids without (too many) sweats rolling up with Chad-tier armor and FUr MoM AP ammo. But at my level (12), a decent gun doesn't cost much, so this feels pretty pointless.Each raid in Tarkov felt weighty and dangerous, while raids in ABI feel much less tense because of all the safety nets it gives you. They are both very different takes on the genre despite their obvious similarities. I'll need to play ABI a bit more to be sure how I feel about it, I think.
>>1972620Thanks for your input. I haven't played it yet but I'm downloading it now. I woke up this morning and did 2 scav runs and 1 PMC run because I was so scared I wasn't completely ready. I personally love the feeling of the weight and danger of the raid and how scared I get.I never wanted an easier method so I personally disliked when they made a PvE mode for Tarkov. I'm going to play this game and hope there is some sense of danger I can find.
>>1972640Yeah, I started playing Tarkov again about a week ago, but as PMC I can extract maybe 1 out of every 10 raids, so I abuse scav runs. Just sucks that killing other scavs lowers your Fence rep, and it can be hard to tell whether the fully geared-up dingus looting a dead body is a pmc who walked in like that or a scav who took all that good stuff off a dead one. All the new guns, areas, and tasks they've added over the years have created a huge knowledge gap that I just don't think I have the time nor willpower to overcome anymore.
desu Im more interested in active matter or arc raider more
let me go ahead and give you guys the meta real quick:wanna be a rat? bolty with red 7.62x51 ammo, maybe a thermal if you wanna be stupid expensive. hide the ammo in your secure container.wanna be a chad? kitted HK17, biggest armor you got, and a shit load of endurance stims and energy drinks so you can sprint foreverjumping carries your sprint momentum which lets you keep moving while turning to spray. this game is WAY more arcadey than tarkov, don't play it like a sim. but don't be stupid when you push either, you still die fast.have fun out there gamers.
I’ve been enjoying it so far. Not as painful as Tarkov so it’s easier to have fun and losing your gear doesn’t hurt as badly. Still just milling about the farm but having fun. Biggest find so far was the Caliburn model for 750k
The missions (tasks) are really basic conpared to Tarkov, but holy fucking shit ABI is a million times more stable than Tarkov. I can load into a fresh raid in less than a minute and a half on average, and my scav raids load so quick that I can go from the home screen and fully loaded into a raid in 30 seconds. More potentially failed raids (and lost gear) per hour than Tarkov, but it actually feels great being able to just gear up and load back in so fast.
This game is so fucking ass, I'm level 7 getting put up against teams of 4, all level 25-30. Also I can be shooting dead on their head but they can just tank it I guess. They can also revive squad while I have one chance, they have 8.Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?Balance is fucking horrible.
The worst thing about these games is the incessant need to have NPCs look like playersI wish The Cycle Frontier never died
>>1975525>active matterlooks janky>arc raider 39 dollars to play will make this DOA
>>1980294Are there solo-only instances? Dang I don't have a four stack so idk if I play this game.
>>1965538How F2P friendly is it?
>>1965538Everything’s good, and the qol improvements are solid, but the maps don’t have the same level of immersion as Tarkov’s.
>>1965538Cheap rehash of tarkov deved for mobile platforms and shit out with a pc release purely because bsg managed to create a void with how poorly they handled tarkov (see all the other dead and buried clones that tried to fill in)Its such a wannabe that theyve even plastered lvndfills face all over the game just like gray zone did Its just more garbage that managed to catch on because they went the safest route of 1:1 cloning instead of trying to rewrite the formula like active matter or something even worse like marauders
Game is fun, wish it was more popular hereDefinitely not a "mobile game". Leaning, sound design and other tactical elements outclass most shooters
>>1992419shame about 19 tick giving a whole 50ms of peeker's advantage
Game is desperately missing proximity chat
>>1992419What is this from?
What do you guys think of Arc Raiders?
Tarkov was getting too hard to run on my PC not very good
>women operatorsholy crap china dangerously based thanks for dunking on Tarkov
>>1981436>39 dollars to play will make this DOAnah everyone is hyped and if a game is good, pricetag wont matter. didnt matter for tarkov and thats still the most dominant extract shooter out on the market.
>>2012586Tarkov was one of a kind tho at the time
Is there some anti TK feature? I remember trying COOP in Tarkov and dumb fucks would instantly murder me but people don't in this game?
>>2012652There is no friendly fire in Arena Breakout
dang it sucks they add so many bots in the game I thought I was hot shit getting a 20 KD
>>2012987its by far my biggest problem with the game. The only way you can guarantee seeing real players is by doing the most expensive lobbies
>>1969167Seems like once you reach a certain rank the game becomes a slog
>>2016011>>1969167These are the first real players you're facing. The game has you go against primarily bots for the first couple dozen hours of gameplay at least
I actually ran into two other players in my third match ever since last night, one was carrying a really nice silenced SMG, a face mask and headset and the other was carrying a grenade so I was pretty happy with my results that run.
>>2012586>Believes the astroturf
>>1984554seems everything is tied to paying 5$ a month for storage, better matchmaking keep your loot
I played this game all day and it feels like Call of Tarkov: Modern Warfare. I really enjoy it. In Tarkov I most enjoyed fighting npcs and getting high value loot. So here I don't mind everything being interchangable as i'm mostly just looking for the orange items/ammo which makes it easy. Definitely not a perfect game and I started running into lots more teams starting at like lvl 12. In general it's just nice to have a tarkov ripoff with good sound and crisp frames. Just playing casually has been a blast so far. Definitely not something I'd tryhard though. I'm hoping the later maps have more ai squads to go up against that some of the noobs die to.
>>2020399I enjoy how team focused it is. I tried matchmaking in Tarkov at the start and the retards TKing you immediately make the game garbage.
wow finally faced my first cheater he knew he was being watched by my teammate and did a 360 no scope wall bang directly for my head with no info
Should I just constantly be doing normal ops or rotating between normal and covert?
>>2020726You should be doing Lockdown Farm and stuffing reds in your anus going sanic fast
>>2020729You can't fool me you just want my supple noob inventory.
how do i stop getting chinese on my teams
When do I start encountering real players in my matches? I was told that as a noob I will basically be going up against NPC PMC teams and NPC Militants 99% of the time. I'm level 14 and still doing Normal games.
>>2021412unlock lockdown that has a lot of ppl
>>2021527I'll check it out
Fucking asshole faked me out pretending to be an NPC militant before trying to do some epic hop strafe hipfire shit at me, thanks for the AK-102 :^)
Why is there no option to insta-fill a team always, i don't mind waiting in queue. Arc-raiders had this, why is it so hard to add this option? I don't want to fucking join and leave discords where random kids join to ear rape or I get kicked by some autist minmaxxing fag.
Will they eventually let Covert Ops play on the rest of the maps?
How are there 30k people playing on Steam yet most matches have bots? Just for player retention?
>>2023002Probably all in Asia as the servers are not segregated
>>2023002I swear to god the range of player skill in this game baffles me because sometimes I swear I will be up against an actual human squad doing pincer attacks and shit and they end up being bots. Then in another match I'll run into the most brainless, unaware troglodytes and ice them and find out they're real people.
>>2023017How can you tell? Is there something on the dogtags im missing
>>2023027You can copy the names in the end screen or the mission history section of your account and try to add them to your friends list, it'll say if they exist or not. Sometimes you can tell at a glance if it's something really generic sounding like DankMaster, it's likely a bot PMC. If you're doing Covert Ops and check your match history actual players I believe will say (Imposter) next to their random name but I'm not 100% on that.
I've queued for like 6 raids in a row and get no teammates
It's always the third guy that gets you
the esp users on forbidden are funking my groove
I know that apparently this game's tickrate is complete dogshit and obviously killcams are just an approximation but sometimes I see someone's kill cam and I am completely flabbergasted at the shots I see. It's so insulting it almost makes me wish there wasn't a killcam.
>kill a dude going for a safe in the first minute of armory>take his silenced mosin (nice)>at the watchtower near the mine exit >hear movement below me>win the sniper battle with the dude moving on the road>he's dead but I still hear shuffling>hmmm>there's just another dude prone near the turned over truck looking around>pop him >6B13 armor and an F70 helmet>get out with a bit over 400k worth of loot and 3 killsSadly this will probably be my best run all day but as a noob I am very happy.
kek the sluice key sucks I spent 700k to open a door one time and get no loot sick fuckers adding a one use key
>>2024660the cable car cashier key on northridge is also an incredible scam
very satisfying as a solo to kill an enemy team member then just walk awayWill they wonder? Will they think I'm watching? Who cares I'm already looting on the other side of the map kek
How do I cope with getting "gear diffed" over and over again?I put a full mag into someone just for them to turn around and one shot me constantly. Is ETF just as bad in this regard?
>>2024717after a while you'll be able to tell what gear they're wearing at a glance and then you'll know if you should take the fight or not based on your ammo, rate of fire e.t.c. like if they have t5 armor and you have t4 bullets you should never take the fight, unless you're in a position where it would be extremely difficult for them to return fire.
>>2024717just unload your entire mag into their legs
AAAAAAAGHHH MY FUCKING LEGS AND BALLS MY TWO WEAKNESSES
>>2024732thats what I've been doing, I've been dumdum maxxing but it hardly pays off
I feel like I'm hoarding too much fucking stuff, like I'm being too conservative with the gear I'm using and items I'm keeping. Should I just sell off all the huge 3x3 gold items? I have like 8 of these fucking things and I have no idea what the fuck they are for. I also just discovered that I could fold the stocks on a bunch of my guns, so that's cool.
>>2024811Most loot only exists to sell. My personal opinion is make sure you have enough for twenty loaded runs. So maybe aim for 15m liquid wealth as a safety buffer. It lets you play around with loadouts. He'll I even run meme loadouts when I feel like it for a challenge. I see everyone in my lobbies running the toз for the cheap t5 ammo.
>loot the village in Northbridge>Take my time>By the time I get to the hotel I can loot the 7-8 dead bodies and take their fancy guns and shit >Everyone else is goneNot too bad only annoying part is the constant scavs you have to blast away to get the lootMade 2 million last run with not much resistance. More of a lazy farm though I imagine there's way better a lot of nerds like rushing safes.
I need a good weapon recommendation. I have been trying out a carbine m4 build and its pretty good if you think of it as an smg that shoots rifle rounds but I have been noticing im getting fucked over by vector's and scar's.
Secure Ops is fucking goofy, it's basically just a Deathmatch mode with a bit more pretense to it.
>>2024065nice>>2024717No its worse. But without the gear dif you lose the rush when you kill someone juiced out and take their entire kit
>>2025933Oops, meant to crop that
man people complaining about stealing loot from teammates killswhy even bother just let the guy loot his kills why make a scene just be friendly with randoms
valley is so weird why the fuck does it spawn a team 10 meters from each other lol..
>>2026101Spawns in general seem to be super iffy no matter the map, like in TV Station I spawned in and literally walked into the next hallway and got shot by a guy who spawned in one of the siderooms. Thank god it was Secure Ops or I would have been so fucking pissed.
the kill cams are so fucked it shows someone prefiring before they even turn the corner
Silenced MP5 with dum-dums and drum mags kind of fucks honestly.
>>2026709dumdum meta is a conspiracy by big mag to sell more drum mags
I've been playing for a bit but never really tried out shotties, are they a meme in this game or can I actually plug people past 10 meters? I've been chasing the RS2 150m buckshot kill dragon for a while.
>>2027631Seems like they blow ass because no one uses them. Probably has something to do with the input lag.
armory is funny there are so many bots I ended up capping some players but I didn't loot them because they looked and acted like bots
>>1965538It’s probably a piece of shit with some microtransaction bullshit
>>2027876your mum is a megatransaction
How much money should I have before I start dropping money on t4 ammo and t5 armor?
>>20279253 million
Aug seems pretty solid
>>2027925>t4 ammo
Man Lockdown is actually just a miserable experience if you're trying to rat, especially on armory.
>>2028168wait until the last possible minute and all the sweats will be off the map they can't carry all the guns loot all the corpses they leave a lot behind
>>2028083What do you mean?
>shoot HELMETLESS guy in the head with 5.45 BP ammo>doesn't die>pops back with 7.62 M80 while I have a tier-4 helmet>die immediatelyI dunno if I wanna keep playing this game, but I probably will
been having absolute dogshite runs so I'm running solo with a handgun to loot safes
smelly guy 2 tapped my head after this screenie but damn rushing cable car pays off
Okay I like the game again.
SPAWNING IN FRONT of northbridge hotel is OP you can loot every single safe easily before anyone gets there
>dev's parent company is tencentFUCK
>>2028180check the endgame statshe probably had t6 gear but the game didnt show
Hip fire killed a dude on Farm with a RIP slug to the dome so that was cool. Had a golden deagle on him too, I think he was trying to pretend to be a militant since he was pretty much naked. Shotties are kind of a meme but slugs kind of make it fun in normals at least.
>>2028328My buddy killed him later and did indeed have no helmet. This game has effect headshot range like Hunt: Showdown used to, i.e. if you're not within it, you can't get one shot. If he had a helmet I could roll my eyes and say it was a glancing blow or whatever, but straight to an unprotected head at around 100 yards is ridiculous.
>>2028657it's not even a sliding scale with distance, it's just a flat 30% damage and penetration reduction as soon as the bullet crosses the effective range threshold.
>>2028657nah thats just damage drop off at range, your damage had dropped to 34 from 45, his m80 started at 63 and would have dropped off less by the time it hit you, he survived with 5hp you died after taking 50+ its 100% dumb but what are you expecting from china
What gets me about this game is the lack of inhibiting damage effects when a player is hit, I hit a running player 3 times with 7.62x54r LPS at 60m and he managed to turn, do a full sprint behind cover and start healing, I pushed him to try kill him before he could heal up and he just peaked out and sprayed me, shot me through neck instant death. On the kill screen both his arms and his abdomen were black/ 0 hp, how he managed to sprint to cover and then perfectly aim his gun in full auto with mangled arms is a joke.
>>2028756most players will premed before a fight so they don't ever have to deal with the broken limb debuffs.
fuck this game
they did a cyberpunk crossover when is the blue archive event?
>>2028270I think it'd be easier to list the amount of Chinese gaming companies not owned by Tencent.>List of Chinese gaming companies not owned by TencentDone.
Is there any better feeling than popping kitted out dudes with a silenced Mosin?
>>2029124being the guy that doesn't have to hide in bushes to avoid being clapped
>>2029205
regular lockdown loose loot goddamn in an out in less than 5 minutes I love that
Can NPC militants check their inventory like players do? I'm just wondering because I got jebaited by a dude pretending to be an NPC but he also checked his bag, not sure if that was a tell or not.
We need a map like Northridge but it's just a big urban sprawl like that one Tarkov map I see people play on. Northridge feels like a proper fucking map but it's too wooded for my liking, shit has me sweating with how exposed you are trying to move between the tree lines. It's the same reason I don't really like Valley either.
I seem to find a lot of reds just sitting around on forbidden
They need to fix some of these spawns lmao
>>2029639*Spawns on you and smushes your booty hole* ooooh toothless one speak to me
>>2029663If you kill an imposter militant that recently killed a friendly NPC in Covert Ops the rest of the NPCs in that compound will not aggro on you.
It's strange how some people refuse to commit. Had some guy black my entire body basically running into motel on forbidden then he never entered the motel. Too scared?
Snipers seem kind of gimped if everyone can hear exactly where I'm shooting from?
>>2029716Silenced snipers help a lot but most of the maps are relatively small so you can basically pinpoint the crack of gunfire within a 200m radius of yourself.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm probably still gonna buy Tarkov in a few weeks because I just gotta see what the hell that's like in comparison.
Tips for solos?
>>2029787I'm in the same boat anon, all my friends are telling me not to but I have to try it anyways. I've been obsessed with ABI but been real turned off by how many bots are added and how much scavs grief the PvP. I'm hoping Tarkov is more fair and realistic
Would you rate the devs better or worse than Tarkov? The Tarkov guy could be a real cocksucker from what I've seen over the years playing. Maybe lost in translation but a real rude dude.
>>2029787>>2030200I don't know if it's better now but the Chinese cheater problem on Tarkov was pretty insane. Here it's bad too but the segregation of game Modes keeps most of them in forbidden on certain maps.
>>2030198If you kill one guy be ready for 3 other people all spread out. I sniped someone, got killed, and there was a guy 2 feet behind me from the squad of the person I killed. Sometimes just killing someone in a rear sneak attack is good and then running away. If they aren't cheaters they'll camp and be wary for a bit then you can swing by later for loot. Personally you have to be fairly skilled to wipe out all four so don't bother unless you're an exceptional player. Your main goal is to harass.
>>2030198Silence your weapons, don't sprint all the time especially if you're at a POI, if you're looting a room and hear people approaching don't forget to slow walk while you reposition for a defensive angle. Playing solo just means you have to be more aware of how much sound you're making relative to the rest of the map.
Does the TDM mode give you anything?
People have way too good target acquisition i'm laying down in a field and they see me sniping at them
>>2031108The way youtubers I watch can spot enemies is crazy to me, I feel like I only see moving players
Anyone have fun m16 builds? The 3 round burst seems neat. Makes me want to conserve the heavy hitting ammo too by using the 1 tap fire mode.
Noooo it ate my ammo :(
I've lost like 5 million running northridge lockdown today. It fucking sucks ass for reds compared to forbidden. I can't even get some back from this crappy loot to shove up my ass.
Just about to unlock Forbidden. Is there a large difference in it compared to Lockdown? Been enjoying it way more than normals
>>2031273A lot better loot. Safes and keys are worth using 100%A lot of people using red ammo. Some cheaters.
>>2030440I'm talking about the actual solos mode, not the modes with fake players
>>2031347just click heads
>>2031145the 3 round burst weapons are absolute shit
>>2031347The mode for losersssss
>>2031145the trick with the m16 is to not use the burst but single firethis thing is a laser with minimal attachments but you have to click fast
>>2031465I figure I scared a group off but the burst misses too much at range. The normal firing mode would've probably snagged me a kill.
Man high level armor is fucking hilarious eh? I think some dude had tier 6 and I sniped him 20 times with my tier 4 ammo confirmed hits and he just stood in the window lol not even shrugging or caring. That armor makes you a god eh? I know range drop off too
>>2032064I don't even engage with people that are wearing T5 and up armor anymore, is it like this in Tarkov where fully kitted players are just walking rapebeasts?
>>2032607Your bullets just bounce off like them nerf darts
>>2032610Truly we are the worms of these games...
>>2032610how do people enjoy this shit?
>>2032701Do you play the game?
>>2032727too much
The scavs completely ruin this fucking game. slowly walk up on you like a player without saying anything. So you may hold an area and waste all your time on a spic bot. Or they charge at you and endlessly spawn completely fucking you over in PvP. Revealing your position and getting you shot in the back
>>2033205It is pretty fucking annoying yeah, there's just too many fucking bots.
Absolute poopy it puts me in lobbies as a solo vs 4 geared mega grinders
>>2033205>>2033420why are you playing normal tho I thought they only spawn in crap maps
>>2033936No? Bots still spawn in Lockdown they just are usually Soldier Scavs or PMC bot teams. Not as many but they are there.
Solo ops seems kinda fucked? Every single guy I've faced has 500 million + stash and instantly knows where I'm coming from direction wise. They even pretend to look other directions before sprinting directly for me. There's no sound indicators or vision indicators of where I am. They're walling. Two raids in a row. Is Solo Ops where all the cheaters hang out or something? Weirdest fucking games I've ever had. Reminds me of Tarkov. Forbidden teams is not even this blatant.
>>2033936In normals the other operators are fake player bots kek
>>2034052I finally started getting kills in solos just by running a cheap mosin with a scope with 3 bullets of level 6 ammo you craft. Spent countless millions on different guns and high level gear only to get fucked over and over. Dumdumb shenanigans, none of it worked. Just pray you can land the headshot
Enemies in squads going DNBO is actually the gayest thing about this game if I'm being honest.
>>2034477>DNBOHa you thought you killed one person? Well guess what you're dead haha and we'll revive him!
Most kills endgame for me seem to be>Hear very loud grenade firefight etc>Walk up>See guy looting >Blast him>loot him and the bodies
>mosin with cheap scope>3 level 6 bullets>level 4 armorI just run around and quick scope kitted out niggers in the head. Wish I figured this out way sooner
>>2035657Come into the building with me. I just want to talk. Come on in. I just want to talk.
>>2035659I probably get most of my kills in close to mid range duals
What do you guys do with all the 300k+ weapons you get after a raid? Do you use them? Just completely sell them?
>>2035687I give them to your mom to polish
I feel like I should keep some tier 5 ammo in my ass as a FUCK You because there's so many times I head tap a fat guy and he just sprints away.
>>2035657Headshots are so crazy weak at range in my experience if you're using anything smaller than 7.62 Mosin for Lockdown and higher. I had to two-tap a guy in the head with tier-4 ammo in a G3 at around 60-70 meters and only got to pull off two consecutive shots because he was looting a scav. I'm *assuming* he had a tier-4 helmet but I feel like I've been domed by the same caliber at longer ranges through the same level of helmet.>t. >>2028657
Just sat behind the wall in sluice solos for over 30 minutes waiting for someone to activate the dam but nobody came.
>>2036120I saw u thru the walls so I went the other way
Did they finally add kill loot protection? I hated killing someone and seeing my teammate go straight to loot it.
>>2038706I think there's a 2-3 minute loot protection on people you've killed but obviously that's not really enough time if you have an extended fight. You can turn it off if you're playing with homies you trust too.
