>>1976478
>Two New Weapons: P90 and KS-23
You fucked it up, Anon.

>>1976576
No, they definitely added the P90 to the game

>>1976576
Reskins don't count

>>1976655
It's funny, because people have barely talked about the P90 it seems. There's the usual complaints with every automatic, but the BFR really seems to have stolen the show, for better and worse.

>>1978383
It's another auto. Who cares?

>>1978453
>Who cares?
I'd presume the people that have been endlessly and needlessly bitching about autos the entire lifespan of the game in order to try to deflect from their own mediocrity, but I guess right now they have the Major to get all their talking point for the next year from instead

>>1978509
Seething.

>>1978527
Indeed, that is what those people do, endlessly

P90 isn't really a problematic auto because it doesn't have range, which is always the problem with them. Consistent long-ranged weapons with great damage always end up being obnoxious. The only people who have complained about the P90 are the rare light mains who doesn't like dealing with medium having a brainless CQC gun, everyone else registers that it's about as balanced as a submachine gun is going to get on medium

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>retard last thread:
>uhhhhh giving light a double jump? even on cooldown? don't be ridiculous. there's no way that'd ever happen. that's so far out of any possible sense of balance. under no circumstances would that ever, EVER, NEVER EVER BE ALLOWED TO HAPP--
>Embark this week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OsCrrc0pzs

>>1978769
this isn't the same as giving a single class the ability to double jump. Every class can jump here.

>>1978780
it's also a gameshow event, not an innate skill which is what you wanted

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>>1978769
winrar

>>1978769
Gosh slaming from a double jump might actually work

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so why are the tier 2 rewards so ass this season, these are all recolors right? also so sad that the emerald and sponsor deagle rewards are devalued with the nerfs

>>1979850
Buy Arc Raiders.

>>1979850
I mean yeah, they're sponsor rewards. Of course you just care about the color and the branding.

>>1979965
Futa energy

>>1979965
And the smaller one does more damage

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>>1979971

>>1979972
size isn't everything

>>1979976
god i wish she farted on my face

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>>1979976

>>1976478
Anyone noticed the difference in destruction system?
Aside from crane ball and suspended structures wrecking everything under them, it seems kinda same to me

>>1980158
Yeah. Might be a gameplan thing. You'll see it more if you use destruction more.

>>1979965
>>1979976
>>1980083
She looks like she does NTR

>>1980158
The new destruction system is only active on those 2 structures. Everything else follows the same destruction rules.

>>1980158
the destruction is very different in some areas and not much in others, im guessing they went in and tuned a bunch of stuff by hand to make the destruction more playable and less chaotic. Everything in Kyoto was pretty much overhauled entirely.

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The Finals

>>1981197
really need more coom outfits, game's too tame

fucking turd of a game crashes on launch now, it's all so tiresome

Why is light allowed to ram his SH up your asshole and 1shot 3/3 classes

>>1981200
The only time this game is ever going to get overt coom outfits is when its in its death throws and embark is trying to milk the last couple of whales left. Female characters barely have A-cup tits and most of the faces are average to ugly looking; unfortunately this game was made during a time when every western dev was mandated to cut down sexual dimorphism as much as possible and to never make truly attractive characters.

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>>1981200
so true

>>1982890
cus it's fun but not very practical against a strong player because you're pigeonholing yourself into ambush at point blank or useless
last thing this game needs to be doing is dumpstering more mid-tier weapons because they occupy a normie-angering niche like burst, melee, or splash

if lights are so strong why don't we see dual light comps in tourneys

>>1983440
funny that 90% of the reason light is played now has to do with them getting very strong support gadgets with a tiny helping of "their guns are actually good now"

>>1983440
Cutting your teams health pool massively for no real benefit. A second gateway isn't necessary, a second infuser is of little benefit on a low hp team, 4 glitch nades is overkill

>>1980158
feel like buildings have a habit of getting completely leveled more often when something on the top floor goes but that could be placebo

>type 2 fem heavy with the anubis head mask
awooga

The high ttk feels weird it feels like I'm shooting a nerf gun

>>1985371
I like the high TTK, but I don't like that they've been on a bit of a crusade against finishers for people that manage to close the gap.

Last time I played this game it was the beta and nobody ever had a mic and the matchmaking was ass and available game modes weren't fun at all. Did anything change or is it still full of stupid shit

even tho pros use the shak, BFR and duelies, I cant get over how consistent the m60 is, on top of being the everything the minigun is except better.

>>1987706
most heavy pros use BFR and SA12 though
shak looses against a good SA12

>>1988068
>Shak loses against a good SA12
>Shak, a weapon with 1.57s and 1.00s body and headshot TTK
>losing to the SA12, a weapon with a fixed 1.75s TTK
>which also requires meatshots to get that TTK and has a more aggressive falloff on top of that as well
....riiiiiiiight.

>>1988077
You will always get a free 2 hits after a successful winch, that's already a guaranteed 72x2 dmg dealt
burst fire is always better than sustained fire when aim isn't a concern (wether it be equal skill level or simply the vicinity)
PHL is about to start and you can also rewatch the Closed Qualifiers and count how many heavies are using Shak and SA12 and notice which ones close the fight.
Not saying the Shak is bad, I quite like it but if I had better aim and supportive teammates, the SA12 beats it out in term of raw damage output

then again, you praise the M60, so your standards and knowledge is already rock bottom

>>1988150
>after a successful winch
1) Get this, ShAK users can also use the Winch and flat out counter that with their own stun
2) Max range is like, 12m. ShAK users can just stand outside of Winch range and get their full damage. The SA12 can't
>you can watch PHL or the Closed Qualifiers
Or, get this, one can go off of the actual video game itself, rather than variances in players' personal preferences and proficiencies
>then again, you praise the M60
No, I'm a separate anon chiming in at you obvious being wrong, and I guess we can also add you being a shitty little snide faggot on top of that too

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>>1988153
Imagine going against hard facts, here's picrelated, the top picks of the whole PHL

Notice that the SA12 saw a 76.6% OF USE among EVERY heavy.
that anon here >>1987706 specifically said "even pros" when while, yes, the Shak is good, most pros use infact the SA12.

also
>1) Get this, ShAK users can also use the Winch and flat out counter that with their own stun
But within that timeframe you will output more damage with an SA12. If you get winched as an SA12 user, you're still at an advantage since now you have the range benefit of being pulled in your effective range.
>2) Max range is like, 12m. ShAK users can just stand outside of Winch range and get their full damage. The SA12 can't
Doesn't matter because Shak has the double bullet mechanic, that means that you will do HALF your damage should only 1 bullet connect. As for the range itself, every heavy runs dome to cover himself, not to mention that barricade and sometimes even goo are more than viable choices (personally I always run barricade when I play SA12 exactly for this reason and to play ring around the rosie to buy time for a cycle or just to throw him off)


>Or, get this, one can go off of the actual video game itself, rather than variances in players' personal preferences and proficiencies
I do and that's why I see it, first fucking hand. As I stated multiple times, I do not think the Shak is bad, far from it. I am an user of it, it is a GOOD gun. But when I go against a good SA12 user, I will get my shit rocked. And most pros choose that weapon, as the data clearly shows.

>No, I'm a separate anon chiming in at you obvious being wrong, and I guess we can also add you being a shitty little snide faggot on top of that too
Where do you think we are? The M60 IS bad. I'm not worried in the slightest when I go against an M60/minigun user. Accuracy over time is punished in this game.

>>1988165
>Imagine going against hard facts, here's picrelated, the top picks of the whole PHL
pffffft, holy fuck, get some self awareness anon. You're saying to ignore the hard facts of the actual game stats in favor of highly variable and subjective player performance data. You are not in the right state of mind to actually discuss this matter.

>>1988171
>gets shown facts that pros do infact mostly use the SA12
>the original anon specifically said "pros"
>"hahaha you're quoting stats?? ermm cringe!"
Do you even listen to yourself. Don't bother bumping further, it's clear you're just stirring up a fuss since otherwise this thread is usually dead as fuck.

>>1988178
>hahaha you're quoting stats?? ermm cringe!
Yes, that is cringe. Stats have no bearing on hard data, and it's ironic that you claim they are such while dismissing actual hard data. I will lol again at your expense: lol!

>>1988178
>>1988191
this all is not including the fact that the m60 has the best sound of all of the heavy guns mentioned, thus being the best.

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Hi, I just wanted to jump in the thread to post this.
Fucking nerds. Lmao.

Just tried the LH1 for the first time ever... V9S sisters, it's so over for us... It's just better in every metric...

>>1989071
doesn't have as many bullets

Got whined at in a ranked game for running goo nades over C4. I swapped it in for a couple games and basically the only value I ever get with it is dropping the cash when the demat medium (there's always one) is dead. Is that all it's good for or am I using it wrong?

Great work with the demat nerf, Embark. Really enjoying the monotonous heal nigger meta

>>1989081
Makes up for those 5 rounds with headshot damage, headshots with the V9S don't even help in 1v1s vs other lights

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>>1989092
you can toss it surprisingly far to explode lights

>>1989092
It's an impractical grenade subtitue and a remote mine or mine enchancer too. It's not really used for destruction, but for killing. Just not enough charges for demolition.
You should keep goo nades. They're a high iq tool people overlook because it deals no damage and can be misfired. But if you run it in havy you have absolute control over the arena: be it destruction or construction.
I pretty much have two loadouts for heavy: a kill chasing eplosive ordonance killchaser and a goo gun area control trapper. If I get a minute to goo up our cashout location there is nothing they can do except charge and slam in my mines to give their team a window.
Goo is awesome.

>>1989213
dude i'll take nothing but healfags over demat any day of the weak. fuck demat

>>1989213
Healslop is better than demat shit

>>1989071
> Jerking off the LH1 while knowing full well it'll never reach it's old prime again AND it's current recoil is godawful unless you're a headshot wizard
Yeah, good luck with that bro. Let's see you deal with a dash light up close with the LH1 while you're panicking. Rubies and pros can get away with the LH1 because they're continually on insanely good teams and can play support Light from mid-long range and hardly ever need to get up close and personal unless it's a must or they've got man advantage. You? The random teams you get will never be on that level, and you'll be getting screeched at over the mic when you inevitably lose the 1v1 you NEED to clutch because you missed someone's head by an inch.
LH1 ain't worth it big dog unless you're like the top 10% of players, but you'll find that out the hard way lol.
Remember this post :'^)

>>1989092
C4 is a steal deny tool, it mostly serves to buy time and maybe kill the stealer guy. Granted, you can also goodeny but that's not your job. Goo nades are ok (as long as you still bring dome and rpg) but personally I prefer barricades because they're smaller and can be used mid fight better for heavy's short range combat. Medium usually brings goo too so not that much necessary to have more.

>>1989071
Is ok, but the 93R just mogs both outta the water

>>1976478
P90 is dogshit unless you're a hip-firing, run-and-gun retard
Medium needs better weapons, I'm so fucking tired of running FAMAS/FCAR/Cerberus every single game, this is actual bullshit
Why do Light and Heavy get all the fun weapons?

I was about to get so fucking mad about these bullshit teams pack. Like I thought they were finally adding the OSPUZE Cowboy but only as a team-flavored variant. Now I'm just pissed off that they clearly know what people want but won't give it.

Also if you recognize a single one of these team names then you should leave the thread immediately and never come back.

>>1989577
I boughted them all

>>1989495
>consolecuck

>>1989591
real consolecukz use the m11
shit has no recoil on a trolla

>BFR nerf

lole, heavies cant have shit in this game.

>>1989633
>8 damage nerf
lol, it's nothing
>smoke nerf
thank god, I was getting tired of running motion sensor/HE grenade in my loadout all the time

>>1989658
>nooooooo noooooooo don't make me actually counterplay something
>nerf it instead! dilute the game! take away playstyles! yes! yes!

>>1989674
yeap fuck it I don't give a shit

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the bottom line is that
there is such a warframe game
and I somehow went to play a general selection with random people where they deliberately created all sorts of crap in the game to spoil the gaming experience for other players. although this game is cooperative. for this reason, I spoke obscenely about their actions and made it clear what I thought of them. they threw reporters at me and I was banned for 1 month. Yes, it's my fault - I violated the rules of good manners, but they are also to blame for provoking people to such things. they went unpunished.

when my lock was lifted and I logged into the game, I saw that I had 2 violation notifications. The second was "threats and harassment," although it certainly wasn't, even indirectly! but the technical support of the game decided to put the bolt for verification, which increased the lock period for me. tech support told me that the players regarded your words as a threat.

I wrote to tech support that I could actually complain about any word in the chat with my friends, which would intentionally block everyone in a row because of threats and harassment. if technical support and moderation does not want to fulfill their function as an honest orbiter. I really hope that you can help me with this. it's a good game, but its technical support is very relaxed and does its job carelessly. We need to stimulate them so that they don't just get the money we give to the game.

this will be a very good protest against the inaction of the technical support of this game and very valuable for the players' experience. I can assure you that the players on whom the reports will be sent will not always be blocked, but from 1 week to 1 month they will have to play something else. These limits are specified by the developers themselves in the license agreement.

thanks to all those who will at least pay attention to this action, and a very low bow to those who will take part.

>>1989705
why are you like this

because lately I've been dealing with this kind of attitude towards players from the technical support quite often.

>>1989716
you merely chimped out and because you're fucking retarded, petty and have nothing else to do with your worthless time you decided to go on a crusade
hope you get permabanned from every game you play

desu i was banned from the official the finals discord for having a hitler profile picture and they still didn't unban me when I changed it like 5 minutes after.

>>1989674
>counterplay
Well they could have made it so that explosives clear away smoke. Fire clears gas, smoke clears fire, nothing clears smoke. It's just annoying visibility reduction. Hope they do away with the stupid dust clouds when structures get damaged too.

>>1989814
nothing of value was lost desu

>>1989878
That's always been my take on it but for some reason smoke is the only "element" that can't be countered and the only counter is thermal vis, which got removed

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>8500 damage
>6 kills

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>>1989878
>Well they could have made it so that explosives clear away smoke

>another boring gimmick event except this time they added a fuckton of rewards to force me to endure it if I want them
The 20 match contract is the worst.

>>1990437
Best to wait for the second week and do them all at once

>>1989929
I thought smoke was countered with explosives? The problem being grenades and the rpg have disgustingly long cool downs.

>>1990448
Smoke is countered by explosives, yes. Small explosives will push the cloud out, big explosives will dissipate the cloud outright. Most people's issues stem from trying to destroy the cloud with small explosives in a confined space, where there's little room for the smoke to move to. You can also just toss Gas into their Smoke to flush out anyone trying to hide in it, since Gas + Smoke is bretty stronk

>cashout steals have become and increasing frustration
>so we made it a little more balanced
You know what alse is an increasing frustration? Two barrels appearing in my heavy ass and sending me to kingdom come. But got forbid not bullying heavy or encouraging a non gun centric tactic.
I might just quit if they keep nerfing non guns, there's games with better gunplay out there

>>1990282
>>1990448
>>1990463
I have heard it alleged that explosives only clear out smoke in the practice range for some reason but this sounds like it could, itself, be a myth

>>1990448
technically does, yes, but it just pushes them around a bit, doesn't outright dissipate the whole cloud (think something like how CS2's smoke functions). Besides most people just chuck all their nades and the dense cloud just won't really dissipate even with explosives, it'll just kinda stay there

>>1990878
are you implying the gunplay is somehow remotely close to being good?

>>1991020
I'm implying you're gay, and I want to fuck your bussy until you cum hard desu

>new event
>make the complete 30 daily challenges an obbligatory challenge
Atleast blast off had the decency to put it as an optional one, this one just forces you to log on daily to do em

>>1991023
implying i wouldn't make you my bitch with the power of my bussers you lil fag

brother i'm still fucking crashing mid match and then it won't let me back in unless i reboot the pc
might be done with the game this season

>>1991158
I just play quicktrash and whatever the LTM is cause getting disconnected pmo too much.

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>>1990437
the matches go by pretty fast desu and the fcar skin is pretty good for a free one

>>1994091
The FCAR isn't lacking for options though. Feels like there's some weapons they've been neglecting a bit too hard in the skin department.

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>another season another tank on players
>Yet another eceleb media blitz that doesn’t actually help player retention
>Battlefield 6 releases in 5 days
>Arc Raiders is their focus now too but it’ll be the same high praise no player retention


Do you think Embark regret leaving Dice?

>>1994829
It’s crazy since battlefield 6s destruction is actually garbage compared to the finals too but military fps tards gonna tard.

If the finals was more military and higher player count do you think it be more popular?

>>1994866
do you think it'd even work with more players considering how cpu hungry the destruction is?

>>1994829
Only the most retarded goyslaves are forking over $70

>>1994994
> CPU hungry
> The finals
It's the best optimized UE5 game I've ever played, and I can run it just well with a Ryzen 7 4800HS and a GTX 1660 Ti

>>1995090
my shitty rig struggled to get 20fps in it compared to bf6s 60+fps before i upgraded so i'd say yeah it's quite cpu hungry

>>1994829
It's a comforting constant that frogposters will always be retarded

>>1994866
the goofy aesthetic and game show theme does put off people

It's over for us. BF6 hit numbers we never reached and that was just the beta. Our numbers are about to tank to record lows.

>>1995090
Do you enjoy playing at sub 100 fps with TAAU and upscaled rez?

>>1995188
> He doesn't know about how incredible AMD fsr framegen is
Get with the times, grandpa. Jesus H

>>1995195
>unironically plays with TSR framegen
lol
lmao
enjoy playing with smeared shit on screen and laggy inputs

>>1995199
> Smeared shit
Nope.
> Laggy inputs
Barely noticeable.

I made it to Emerald 2x seasons in a row so far with fsr + tsr, works on my machine

>>1995206
Reaching emerald is not a flex lol

but hey if you legittimatley can't tell when your inputs are laggy in a game as fast paced as this, then good on you lmao, clearly you don't need it.

My specs are Ryz 7 2700X and RTX 2070, game running at upscaled rez from 1080p with DLSS, no framegen. Median FPS are map dependent but average to 70-80, with SEVERE dips during high action and destruction/multiple enemies on screen. You're also playing on a laptop.

>>1995228
legitimately*

>>1994866
>If the finals was more military and higher player count do you think it be more popular?
More military? Nah, people are fine with cartoony or gameshow type games akin to maybe MNC or TF2

More players per match? Hell yeah man, people won't wanna hear this but 2 teams against eachother of 16 players duking it out in a destructable arena is more fun than being stuck in a 3v3v3(v3) where you can get shot by multiple teams all the time. Only gamemode that gets close to that is powershift.

>>1994866
More players and more regular modes would grab people the issue is the main mode is too obtuse for new people

Anybody from South America here? Is World Tour or Ranked playable?

>>1995228
> Reaching Emerald is not a flex
Oh, word? So you're Emerald too, right anon? :'^)

>>1995228
> 2070 user bragging trying to shit on me for using framegen
...You're joking, right? You're like one step above a 1660, retard. Fucking lol man

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>>1995310
More like almost 30% better
>>1995303
Boo, it appears i'm not... shame... well maybe you can show me all your diamond rewards maybe?

>>1995335
>>1995310
Besides, my point is that despite me having a better GPU, it still runs too badly to even begin to consider using framegen, let alone on your rig.

>>1995335
>>1995346
> 30% better
> Yet you get crashes all the time without framegen
Meanwhile, I get 0 crashes with OR without framegen on a 1660 lol.
Skill issue my boy, no refunds!

>>1995358
I don't use framegen tho, I upscale it
anyways, suck my balls retard, stay dumb

>>1995362
...and you still get crashes with your gay 2070 while I never crash. XD You got hustled broski, I feel for ya desu senpai.
Maybe next time try actually having an RTX card above 3000 before trying to stunt on someone lmao

>>1995390
For the record, I've never once mentioned crashes, this a headcanon you completly made up btw.

>>1995393
Oh, my bad- I should've clarified "SEVERE dips", that I also still do not have an issue with, ever
Hold the L
You belong to the card generation that was beta testing for the RTX series kek

>>1995335
> Emerald isn't a flex
>> Diamond multiple times, yet still not Emerald, ever
...?

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>>1995335
>2025
>still doesn't realize that the only person who gives a shit about Ranked is Nexon
Dude, embarrassing.

people having issues with performance in the only well optimized UE5 ever made. Is this game just full of thirdworlders or what

>>1990878
Dude this shit is the reason I stopped playing. Double barrels are whatever, but the fucking game was advertised like it's a 3v3v3 heist, but doing anything that's not killing the whole team is pointless. C4 has one charge now, but what got me to install the game was the clip in the trailer where they dropped the cash out 2 floors and stole the cash out. They keep catering to the dumbest faggots and this shit feels like counter strike with more walking and third partying instead of an intense multiplayer heist.

>>1995683
what kinda logic is that, being a well optimized ue5 game only means it's well optimized relative to other ue5 crap, not that it's a well running game overall

>>1995957
I don't understand how retarded people like you function in life. Were you dropped on your head as a child? Do you not read books?

A well optimized UE5 game relative to other UE5 games, is in fact, a well running game overall.

Are you just stupid or underage, maybe?

>>1995957
>being a well optimized ue5 game only means it's well optimized relative to other ue5 crap
No it doesn't. That's just how you're trying to contextualize it to cope.

Why would anyone use the heavy rotary shotgun ever? I can't think of a single reason to use it over any other gun, except that it's maybe the fourth best weapon for hook kills.
It has none of the advantages of a shotgun and all the disadvantages.

>>1997064
How many UE5 games are well optimized?

>>1997161
Namely, The Finals? You know, the game this thread is about?

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>>1995228
I'm also on a laptop

Why does my game keep dropping to 30fps?
I can run it at 60 just fine but it insists on dropping to 30 and it keeps throwing me off in fights

>>1999275
turning off the power saving stuff made it stop, I'm guessing it was thinking I was tabbing out for some dumb reason?
Very annoying

>bonking people with the healing emitter counts for Gadget Damage
heheheheheheheheh
It also apparently counts for arena prop challenges too, which is less funny and more useful.

>first ranked placement match
>teammate is sledge heavy ignoring the objectives to just smash walls
thanks

>>1999377
>second and one teammate goes afk
I might fucking kill myself

Damn, they really made heavy so much worse to play

How casual friendly is this game? A friend suggested it but he's the neckbeard type and I don't trust him with anything multiplayer related.

>>2000050
its a shooter with fairly simple goals
crossplay is enabled by default so every game is full of 'rollers

>>2000393
and even when you turn it off, you'll still get rollers because it ain't input based mm

Playing this makes me feel so old and fucking busted man
I swear I didn't suck this much when I played in season 0 but holy fuck my aim is atrocious

>>2000618
Skill issue.
I'm 31 and kick ass at The Finals and R6: Siege, but that's probably because I've been playing video games since I was a kid
I think anyone above 30 who sucks at FPSes probably has no actual history with gaming

>>2000050
It has almost an infinitely high skill cap due to mechanics, and tryhards like me been playing since launch.

>>2000618
Run medium p90 it's literally brain dead. Easy escape with demat. Easy gap closer with jump pad. Or be a heal slut

Does death cam replay show the persons input if they are using controller

>>2001330
Death cam barely shows the death cam. 1/3 times its just broken animations for me

>want to get all the achievements
>half of them are luck based shit you have to actively look out for
its over for me

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I've been really enjoying heaven or hell bros. Such a goofy fun gamemode.
>>2000050
It has like 6 gamemodes at any given time, 2 of which has sweaties because you get rewards from grinding those. (Ranked and world tour). The rest are pretty carefree fun.

>>2001330
you can tell a controller killcam from a kbm killcam, they have zero recoil

When will get a badass older woman as a character? We’ve got like 3 older guys now yet not a single older woman

>>2002626
I like Heaven or Hell but the Chinese Won't Let Us Call It Hell, but I feel like it's held back by the Spear's alt-fire. If they were somehow able to stitch the Sledge's bonk onto it, so you'd have better access to destruction and a more meaningful choice with your alt-fire attacks (since the spin is pretty much useless), then it'd be perfect

>player 1 elim and 10 deaths in heaven or else
>he charges and pushes me off the map
I hope you get raped to death

>>2001940
> Got the achievement for 150 wins as Medium and Light
> Painfully struggling to get the achievement for 150 wins as Heavy
Who the fuck willingly signs up to play Heavy? It's shit. You have 0 escape ability and just get hunted down by swarms of lights or mediums endlessly rezzing themselves.
Fuck this

Why is it that some matches theres one guy whos spear *always* sends people flying a mile, is there some autistic tech here?

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>>2003205
get owned

>>2002981
It's there just so you have a chance when people inevitably gang up on you because the pokes can't hit more people.
>>2003240
Poke angle, health of whomever is stabbed and movement all affects knockback. Its funny because you can just tap jump and Charge and slam the ground next to low health enemies and send them flying.
>>2003205
I've killed so many teammates with a jumpad trap lmao

>>2003399
>It's there just so you have a chance when people inevitably gang
Doing the swirl is already shut down by one poke, let alone a swarm of them. It does nothing for that purpose at all, and you're honestly better off trying to poke yourself a window out to get away. There's only a few select counters where a spin can actually get you out ahead, and requires some really specific footwork.

>>2003227
i like playing heavy, the charge attack is fun and akimbo/spear are cool but goddam the class sucks ass, i only play it in powershift ucz thats the only mode where i can perform relatively well with it

uh oh sweaty did you want to have fun in quick cash? noooo sweaty you got matched against 3 lights who can spray you down through smoke with no recoil

BF6 is gonna kill our game

>>2003460
they are nothing alike

>>2003460
Yeah sure bud. I bet you really are such a big fan of The Finals

>>2003227
as heavy your goal isn't chase chase chase tdm light bullshit, it's all positioning, stall, making lights suffer for daring to w+m1 and dash spam in your direction