Alex's 500 HP buff talent is the most fun level 20 in the game. Peer-reviewed by /hots/bros.

if you play murky you need to be euthanized

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Diablo heroes > Nexus heroes > Overwatch heroes > Warcraft heroes > Starcraft heroes

>>1979773
Murky is best for dealing with shitty allies. When you can clear waves instantly and come back 6 seconds after dying it's not so stressful. The issue is that eventually you reach an MMR where people know how to deal with puffer fish and don't take the bait off chasing you. All that leaves you is octo and while it can be effective, it's easily counted by killing you so it's not the I win button it was on lower ranks.
However, of you're upset about playing against murky, the only thing I can sympathize with is that you have to babysit him and he can fuck to forever, you can't fuck up once. But he's very easy to deal with for most heroes. Li Ming is an interesting case. She has no counter to fish bribe, but he does provide her trait value.
Most murky players are bad and the fake egg talent needs to be changed. It needs to have collision detection so he can't hide under the obviously fake eggs. That shit is cancer and bribe is better anyway.

>>1979444
I hate mei's voice so much. I only realized recently she's supposed to have a chinese accent. I thought she was just retarded. I also hate her voice lines.

Speaking of shitty accents, why can we have samuro who is literally 2 flavors of racist asian caricature but queera has to speak with a British accent? I would pay money for regular fucking voices on her, orphia, yrel, and mei. Also if they made a white queera skin they could charge 50k gems for it and they'd double their profits of the last five years. We got black valla, chromie, and DVa. Why not?

>>1979896
>why can we have samuro who is literally 2 flavors of racist asian caricature
Because blademaster is an iconic character made in 2002
>why can't we have blah blah
Because this game belongs to company that's been ran by dangerhairs and onions yuppies for years

>>1979755
how so? it's like 2 auto attacks of a tank

>>1979825
>Diablo heroes > Orphea > Overwatch heroes > Warcraft heroes > Starcraft heroes > Dogshit > Birdshit > india/qhira/ratshit
ftfy

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>>1979745

>>1980182
Creating life with Alexstrasza!

>>1979926
That reminds me, Anna and tracer too.
Why does dva sound normal?

>>1980404
>>1980406
>>1980408
A meme from the past... forgotten, like heroes in a storm...

>>1979745
Her face was ruined

>>1980436
It is not forgotten as long as we keep it alive

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What to do, /hotsg/man?

>>1980682
Accept and post their most played heroes.

Is Deckard shit, or just at low mmr?

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Heroes of the Storm, a game that caters to the autistic.

>>1980428
D.Va is supposed to be a heavily americanized streamer/esports person so they didn't bother with giving her a noticeable accent. Earlier OW heroes were more about recognizable accents rather than authentic/accurate ones (looking at you, Zarya)
Ana came in a bit later when they started to push more for the representation angle, and making her sound more "ethnic" was their idea for beating it into people's heads that she was from Egypt
And as for Tracer, well she's a bong, and bong accent is safe stereotype, no one will write an angry petition for a character that goes OI GOVNA 'TIS CHEWSDAY INNIT
(this is all for Overwatch btw, in HotS they just used the same templates when voicing these chars)

I had an anuberak player in qm today. He was spamming every ability on cd including locust swarm. He was always out of mana and didn't peel once. I looked at his profile after the game. Playing for 10 years, level 261 anuberak.
How?
How are people like this? How many games did he ruin over the last decade? How can you be this dedicated and this bad? He wasn't a bot, he did respond to messages.

>>1980966
samuro clones for insistence on sameness

OP forgot to link previous thread >>1870084

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>Valla player decides on last second to switch to Muradin
>bitches all game we have no damage and none can kill shit

>>1981455
>Murky sole survivor
Yeah that's pretty bad.

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>>1981500
lmfao

Whitemane's lvl 1 quest feels like a trap but it's so addictive in ARAM

Zagara's lvl 4 quest feels like a trap but it's so addictive vs. Nova/Samuro

>>1982168
it has decent scaling and AAs are a significant part of Zagara's damage output so I think it's actually the best one
Medusa is only good for Infest splitpushing
Envenom is only good against like a pesky Genji or to win early trades

Seriously, should I give up on deckard like I did Lucio? I'm qm/low mmr he's fucking useless. The sleep ultimate is pointless, your allies wake them up, and they dodge your pots like it's lava.

>>1982812
if you're low mmr you should just pick a hero and play then and watch your own replays until you're not low mmr anymore
which hero it is doesn't matter at all

>>1982948
Well I got 100k gold and own most the heroes I want. I really like Lucio, but qm my qm allies don't benefit from move speed (they don't move.)
I just had a game where my artanis was so timid I had to melee deathwing to death by myself with deckard. Sapphire bonus damage ftw.

>>1982957
see>>1982948

>>1982968
Watching my replays doesn't make me not get leavers and trolls every other game. I know that statistically I should get 20% less trolls since I'm not, but it really doesn't work out that way. If I get 2 wins in a row I get a enemy 5 stack and troll the next two games. Solo que climbing is nearly impossible. I do get potty trained allies, but only about a third of the time.
I do have games where my team manages to overcome shitty qm comp or whatever, but it's so draining I can only do it a couple of times before I don't have the energy to keep trying.
Improving just gets me shittier allies. I try best to work with them, but unless I want to play murky robotically I can't carry them. On the heroes I have trouble with I get players who carry me, but only about 25% of the time.
IDK the experience you've had, but for me, I'll win 7 in a row then have 20 straight games of leavers, griefers, and players who've been playing for years but don't understand the basics of rotations, soaking, and objective values.
When I win a game after an extra 10 minutes and really close team fights because my level 2000+allies don't know you can right click the core and don't have to do an objective that will spawn when the other team receives I just don't have the energy to do that 5 more times that day.

this game is still alive?

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haven't played in years, had a shit load of fun when it was brand new and slowly stopped playing it around 2022. what's deathwing and yrel like now? they were my favorites to play
>>1983075
asking this too

>>1983075
NA ranked is pretty much dead in the sense that the skill level has plummeted and you meet the same 20 people in diamond
ARAM is ARAM, you can find a game in seconds but it's ARAM and you might be forced to play a healer or something unfun
EU is still alive or so I heard

>>1983075
>>1983091
On EU you will easily find matches in all modes except for Brawls – in cases of those it will heavily depend on the time and the particular brawl. And Unranked Draft, but that was never alive.

>>1983075
NA here, <5 minute queue times for ranked at plat peak times. If you wanna play at 3AM it'll be like 10-15 minutes and a shitshow of rankings.
ARAM is <10 seconds no matter the time. Don't play QM so no idea.

I'm still amazed by the pathology of these people who've been playing for 6+ years, have thousands of games she are still complete noobs.
I mentioned the anuberak earlier, but the number of qm players who legit don't understand XP, objectives, or even that you can right click the fucking core is astounding. Do these "people" just play for years, never look into how to play better and never learn?
and why are so many latin american?

Be kind to the 40% wr 2 KDA player with 10k games played. Maybe they're disabled.

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NEW MAIN MENU THEME
IT'S HAPPENING

>>1986805
Lol, maybe

Also unrelated: what's the point of them changing the holiday screen if the chests are the same and there's no quest? I guess they stopped doing event chests?

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>>1987174
what did they mean by this

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24229032/heroes-of-the-storm-live-patch-notes-september-30-2025

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>Blackheart's Bay, Hanamura Temple, and Warhead Junction will enter Ranked map rotation in the coming weeks!
What the FUCK is the janny thinking? Yeah let's put the SHITTIEST maps in the ranked pool!

Dehaka fucked even further. Need 5 globes to get old z

Also they cut the slow from the fort change and reduced the area. It's so lame they might as well have removed fort mechanics altogether.

Jimmy's inspire stacks with the new minion buff, expect a lot of split push laner.

>>1987489
The janny wants me specifically to play ranked.
He's succeeded.

Do you strictly need to play three placement matches to get a rank by the end of the season? Or can you play one and end up with a rank after the season ends?

>>1987831
Better hurry up and play the other 2.

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>>1987482
>Locust damage increased by 25%.
Spawn Locusts. Destroy enemy biomass. Logical decision.

Is my game bugged or is there no 2025 season 2 listed in the drop down history menu

Never mind, logging off and on fixed it

I don't think I like the tower changes... makes diving so much easier and it's hard to punish coordinated teams now.

for the love of god port this game to steam. the blizzard client is so shit

I do not like this patch. It promotes tardpushing and I will just lose even more games due to retarded teammates who never show up to defend forts. Well at least Abathur is marginally better.

>>1989757
>Well at least Abathur is marginally better.
They removed the small xp globes so his delayed soaking is worse.

>>1986208
If a player develops a bad habit and doesn't know, how can you expect change?
To answer your question though I think it can be a factor or a combination of these variables such as lack of knowledge, selfish attitude, no competitive drive, inattentiveness or just simply stupid. Playing for a long time doesn't really change the outcome of these previous points. Some people really do lack the innate ability to 'git gud'

>be mura
>be in deep shit
>dwarf toss away
>"HOPP!"
>hurry away to safety
always makes me chuckle

>>1989757
It's fun for tanks and the siege-brained, unfun for pretty much everyone else.
They should've just pushed the individual map changes to live, those are all good.

>>1989534
Steam would just launch bnet

>>1989784
I had a nazeebo today on my team wall me in and fail to lower it, then he walled around the immortal making it impossible to melee.
Playing for ten years...

>>1990534
I read on the Diablo 4 discussions on steam that it doesn't require bnet launcher, just a bnet account so you can login

>new patch is dogshit
>the notes are in broken English
>new mount looks similar to a Labubu
it couldn't be more obvious

The minion inspire is an awful change. 0/10 Janny apply yourself.

>>1991058
>>1991259
I'm not a big fan of the minion change, but the fort change makes malfurion, wm, and Andy much better because you can hit heros to heal without building aggro.

I suspect they may roll back the minion thing a bit, not remove it completely. That would be admitting it was dumb, but just nerf it to near useless.

>>1991394
Yea I don't mind building targeting change at all. I think that was an intelligent move but right now babysitting lanes is so mandatory that QM and lower ranked leagues are basically unplayable since the average player can't see the minimap.

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>>1991259
>locks Exterminator
>PvEs all day
>mutes your toxic ass

>>1991440
forgot to add
>loses match
at the end

ok so here's the deal ok im going to deal 2 dmage/sec to the whole enemy team the whole game
see my dmg stats? i'm a better dps than you.

>>1991511
When did dps become "total hero damage?"
Is it a zoomer thing?

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no, i will not play sonya

>>1992663
You don't like Leap?

Just played a QP match with a Cho'gal Aba combo. it was the most disgusting thing I've seen. even worse than the tryhards that party up Cho'gal+Auriel.

>>1992705
Nta, I don't like any hero you have to sperg out and press buttons on every cooldown. There's no objective reason, I just personally don't prefer that kind of play style.

Did they change matchmaking? holy god have the teams been dogshit lately. every fucking game is one sided now

>>1997216
Not that I'm aware of. What they did change "recently" is the timer before the matchmaker starts to "expand" the criteria is lower. This is only relevant for ranked. There's a sort of MMR for QM and ARAM as well but considering these prioritize finding a match quickly, you're always flipping a coin on whether you'll get actual human beings or monkeys as teammates.

Janitor broke the game.

>>1997273
"Veteran challenge" works. I got my starter chest that I never got before.
>>1997221
>>1997216
Is it because of the new season and people with new accounts trying to get a good placement?
QM seems shittier than usual.

fucking jannie REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Interestingly, league got ddos'd earlier today.
Cohencidence?

You cannot kill that which has no life!

>WHJ
>Team is licking their wounds after a small skirmish
>Two people start hearthing
>ming randomly decides elegantly throw themselves into the middle of the enemy
>misses every ability
>enemy all have full hp
>spam pings me for not backing them up
>call them out for starting an 1v4 when team already was hearthing before they decided to do that play
>they start intentionally feeding

For what purpose? Its all in the replay everybody can see what you've done. Instead of admitting to a very bad misplay they had to sink even further into their stupidity?

>>1995591
Good news! Sonya is not that kind of a hero.

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Mommy milkers!!!

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>>1997704
>For what purpose?
there is no meaning, no purpose, we feed, we ping, it's mindless savagery, this Nexusverse is mindless

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>>1979745

I opened that "starter chest" I got from playing the veteran challenge since the game was down.
It contained 3 epic and one legendary. Is this normal? >>1997875

I didn't mean to link the previous post, IDK how that happened

>calibrated silver 1
Well, it's been nice knowing you, /hotsg/, I'll just go kill myself.
I used to think being a platshitter was disgraceful...

>>1998764
This is normal. I don't think you can place higher than high silver nowadays. What your rank will be 100 games from now is more accurate.

>>1998770
I calibrated low plat a couple months ago (I did suffer a colossal loss streak afterwards to low gold)

>>1998862
Oh you mean not on a fresh account? Then yeah, you are bad and should feel bad.

>>1998893
Why would I smurf in this game? (Or any game, but especially this one)

did janny fix aram yet?

>that one Rexxar who afks in the back because he's too afraid to lose his Animal Husbandry stacks

>>1979745
Imagine deathwing plowing this nonstop and making hundreds of baby dragons haha. . .

This is odd. I got an email saying I was silenced, but I'm not. It looks legit and isn't telling me to click anything.
Why?

>>2002359
Check all the regions, you could have mistakenly received a silence on a server you do not play on.

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>get praised like a deity first game, and get told they'll miss not having a healer like me always
>next team i'm in shits on me non-stop

>>2002411
Interesting. I only went on the other server once to check if it was also not working. I wasn't there long enough to get silenced, especially considering no one could play any game.

>>2002551
I had the one exact same ally and opposing healer 2 games in a row.
First game, "why do you have half the healing?" Uhh because I can't heal you when you're dead 2 screens away?
Second game I have twice the healing.
Only difference was feeding ally changed team.
This was iron fist kara vs enemy malf...

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>>1979745
>>1980460
Not in the cinematic. She looked fine there. Then again characters always look better in cinematics.

>>2002948
She looks terrible there.

>come back to this game after fuck knows how many year
>alternate between aram and qm
>every qm, without exception, people gather mid and fight from minute 0
>other lanes usually free so i go to one of them and soak instead
>meanwhile there's a high chance the lane on the other side of the map is empty
Did my account mmr fall down into the shitter realm while I was away? Kills don't feel like they give more xp than a single minion wave at the start of the game. Also, I often get matched with people with single/double digit account levels.

>>2003410
I think that after a long period of inactivity (1-3 years google tells me) your MMR soft resets to silver something. There's no silver rank in QM but you get the idea. The "good" news is that since your MMR uncertainty is so high right now you should be able to win most games if you simply outsoak.

>>2003413
I've racked up 50 qm games since I came back and people are still brawling mid at the beginning. I may just be a shitter myself, even though back when numerical ranks where a thing I managed to achieve rank 10.

>>2003410
>>2003431
people have been fighting for first blood at mid at the beginning of the game since the game was released
players in QM tend to play just for fun, if you want optimized matches go play ranked

>>2003410
On top of what others said you used to be able to get full XP from that until a VERY (less than a couple of weeks ago) patch by running up and grabbing orbs after the mid fight.

>>2004199
>Full xp
The only change is small xp. If you can't get full now you weren't getting it then.
>>2003965
>if you want optimized matches go play ranked
Lol, no.

Why are dumb fucking apes obsessed with bottomless flask? Why do they think that it makes any difference at all outside of attrition?

>>2005306
It's the "safe" 20, and it provides value even if Deckard dies. 20 Sleep is really good but for some reason, you might not be getting enough value out of it. 20 Lorenado can be more disruptive than helpful if you have skillshot heroes on your team. Perfect Gems is just W cdr if you don't have gem talents. Which leaves Bottomless Flask, the "safe" talent.

With the most cdr (Safety in Numbers), Q cd is 2s. So you throw your first pot, and with perfect cd management, you can throw another 4 pots in 8s, which is when the first pot comes back. You threw 5 pots but healed for 6, an increase of 20%, which is okay. It's the "safe" talent for this reason, you always get a bit of value out of it, and it's also good for core all-ins.

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Why are silver shitters so toxic?

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AWOOGA

>>2005353
you're trying to explain this to a blind shitter who's naturally averse to picking up health pots

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>>2005558
Not being the absolute worst tier makes them think they're not terrible and it goes straight to dey head

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I love this bitch, especially when enemies don't move out of the ult.

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>it's an episode of pings mid-game where I try to get their top fort while the rest of the team is brawling deep in bot

The new tower changes really suck, now that I've had some time to adjust to them. Diving is completely unchecked and the defender's advantage is essentially gone. Not enough to make me quit the game, but it's been one of the worst major changes I've ever seen.

>>2005642
Bitch i was the one throwing the flasks
Bottomless flask is shit
>oh it provides value when you're dead
only if they're still fighting over where you threw the flask which no team actually fucking does because they scatter like cowards even before someone dies, let alone after the healer goes down
Ruby perfect gems provides so much more burst healing, the important kind in the late game, its unreal and both ult talents have extreme CC packed in, even if they're a bit chaotic to land
But no, the team always wants the dumbfuck bottomless flask that gives maybe an extra 300hp a second if all five are up and being used immediately except that's still no real value in the middle of the fight when you're tossing flasks as quick as they come

the fuck is this nigger game's problem? if i pick aba it almost always mirrors, but if anyone else does it doesn't

>>2008071
Well, it happens to the guy mirroring you.

>>2008071
aba is one of only four "support" heroes and probably the most popular one so you're more likely to get matched with him than the others

>>2007699
>except that's still no real value in the middle of the fight
But is is real value, assuming the fight takes longer than 8 seconds, the minimum for the first flask to come back up. Since you're not a korean GM and neither are the 9 other players, this can happen a lot even after level 20. By the way, my math was for the maximum cdr and with perfect cd management which is not realistic. In practice you might be able to throw 3 other pots during these 8s, so another pot coming back after 8s would realistically be a 33-40% increase in healing. Of course this doesn't beat Ruby+Perfect Gems if you have a melee-heavy team but that's not the point.

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Find a single flaw

>>2008763
wide shoulders
gorilla legs and ass
inbred face

basically a 10/10 if you're british, black or equivalent

>>2008977
>If you're british,
what you try to mean with this?

>>2008763
Dive bait

>>2008763
no cleanse

>>2008763
Alex w is the shittiest ability in the game.
Slow
Weak
Countered by virtually every aoe in the game.
You basically have to play q or e build and use w for ooc healing. Most the time your team (correctly) decides it's not with waiting for it to go off and goes and soaks or camps.

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tracer died at 18 mins
thought xhe will ragequit for ruining xer k/d ratio

>>2008763
Her W is unwieldy.

Alex W is fantastic, i love giving free orbs

>>2012770
By the time you get 15 you've either lost or established your team was going to win anyway.

>>2013225
Not in All Random, All Memes.

>>1983075
Quick Match is fun and also more competitive some times, 3min for queuqe time

There are some retards that I always see in the global chat in NA. I don't know if you can recognize them too.

>>2008717
>assuming the fight takes longer than 8 seconds
Assuming the fight stays where i've thrown the potions which doesn't happen with randoms.
If even one person is willing to man up to duke it out i'd much rather have perfect rubies and otherwise i'd rather have the sheer disruption of the ults to force their dumb lizard brains to switch to aggressive mode instead of their scared prey default.

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>pick non-tank/y hero
>tank keeps feeding RIGHT before objective or is jerking off to minions 2 lanes away (both teams are at the same level)
>pick tank/y hero
>at least 1 assassin has the impulses and attention span of a cat chasing a laser dot

i just realized Mei has Muradin's toolkit, but she's better in almost every single way
i am fucking mad

>>2008977
>>2009041
>>2009223
>>2009321
>>2010198
skill issue

>>2015261
Except mei is an ugly whale and muradim a handsome shortie

>>2014359
The queue time isn't the big issue, it's the afk retards in draft. You've been hovering a guy, just hit the fucking button. No reason we should wait 15 seconds. Get it together.

>>2015261
>>2015819
Mei is oppressive at low mmr, but she's under tuned. If you make the effort to get out of the op slow/stun and don't get baited into chasing her into danger when her d is up she's pretty weak by the numbers.
Now if they have a competent alerak throwing you in the stun that can be pretty tough.

Also, this patch her avalanche is buggy and goes through walls a lot where it's not supposed to. Same with stitches hook. I've seen it pull thru a gate at least 3 times, 2 of which got recorded.

>>2003965
>if you want optimized matches go play ranked

Seriously question but why do people perpetuate this lie? I can only imagine this comes from people whom do not actually play rank but have this mystical false representation of rank being more than what it is then go about spreading this false narrative from their own ignorance of the mode. Ranked Mode is filled with all kinds of problems which I personally believe is a flow on effect from players coming from QM still not understanding the basics of the game. Every rank under plat is a joke with games being entirely a coin flip based on random variables like who is the weakest player or which side is filled with smurfs playing divisions under their true rank. Bronze 5 itself is a specialized hell hole filled with the absolute worse scum of players with their own warped interpretations of how to play the game and will actively fight you if you somehow cannot mindread their stupidity. The only time when matches start to become more organized is at diamond + even then its mostly filled with one tricks who are mechanically skilled at their one tricks and can still lack game knowledge (you can still get stupid plays like invading enemy boss so you can safely do your own boss to then either do nothing or then somehow push core despite first boss was closer to core and had less structures to go through.)
In my own personal experience, I've encountered so many one tricks in ranked that warp the entire lobby around them assuming they also don't get banned out as well which then affects how well they play on their team. Need waveclear? Too bad hammer one trick is going to pick their one trick and fuck you for thinking otherwise.
I really cannot understate the amount of clown fuckary goes about in ranked despite it being the most serious gamemode dont you know. People throwing for not winning the match fast enough, Players who havent played for 5 years coming back with warm up games in ranked mode being worse than AI

used to be ride or die calamity li-ming builder but lately I've been having a lot of success with the glass cannon sniper build so long as they have no dive heroes

it's also extremely satisfying popping a full HP squishie from fog of war

>>2016860
>Every rank under plat is a joke
Okay so don't be under plat?
If you're under play you're likely playing less than three games a week or have zero desire to actually improve.
>In my own personal experience,
Discarded; you just remember those games more than the others.
>I really cannot understate the amount of clown fuckary goes about in ranked
This happens even in professional games of much higher popularity. People aren't perfect, and most people play for fun rather than to improve.

Your expectation is just quite poor. Ranked is the most optimized matches you'll get, but thinking everyone will play with machine-like precision and no errors is just a foolish misconception.

>>2019847
I tried ranked today. 5 afk/feeders in 2 games.

got out of bronze for the first time ever. Now onto gold

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>>2008977

>>2009321
>>2010198
>>2012770
her W is absolutely good and the orbs/talents are great
the problem is that it's incredibly easy to punish when you use it defensively because it either
>A. funnels your team into an obvious death trap that almost certainly wipes your team
>B. gets wasted when you realize this is a shit idea and avoid the heal for the reasons of point A.
it should almost always be used offensively near the point where both teams collapse since it's an area of "guaranteed damage"

a nice QoL feature though would be if you can re-cast it early for a lower percentage healing, or if your Q cast immediately popped it for the full heal as long as your target was in the circle

>>2015261
i like Mei but Muradin is consistently better
in fact i'd consider Mei underpowered with how weak her toolkit can be and how easily some abilities can be avoided

>>2023016
>a nice QoL feature though would be if you can re-cast it early for a lower percentage healing, or if your Q cast immediately popped it for the full heal as long as your target was in the circle
These would be plain buffs.

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is hots back?

>>2025708
I'm not sure. I only have the patience for ARAM these days, and it's the same clown show as always. At least the queues are fast.

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i like probius :DDDD

Zul'jins who pick Headhunter in ARAM are a special kind of stupid. They always take 15 minutes to complete their quest and all it gives them is 10% damage that Recklessness already grants at level 1 and +1.1 auto range which is fairly irrelevant in ARAM. And they always feed for that last kill they need.

>increased range is irrelevant in the one mode where having better range is the most important advantage

>>2027941
Zul'jin is already a 6.6 range hero. There are very few situations where having an extra 1.1 range on top will help him auto/kite better. And ever since they capped his quest to 50 bonus damage, it's better to go W build in ARAM.

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fucking brass tier takes as always
never change hotsg

Sex with the lifebinder

Also, anyone who mains quira is a fucking loser

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lmao

Post more Alexstrasza

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>>2030397
Sorry i was busy yesterday!

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>>2031666
join the club

>>2031746
Except you dont end up between 4 enemies if you miss Q

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>DIE, INSECTS!

>>2031747
not if you're just poking with it but her big damage comes from w

>e > q > dash in > w > q to dash back out (miss)

except I don't have a bruiser health pool

>>2031852
Fair point

Leoric is my favorite character:D
I like Mithril mace

REMOVE fuckjng ice block from this game, from EVERY character
No, yours doesn't need it

>>2032195
All of... *checks notes* Nazeebo? Jaina, if stretching it?

>>2032155
A skeleton with a crown is one of the coolest visuals you can get

>>2032210
Nazeebo, Jaina, Chromie, Rexxar, Ragnaros, Brightwing, Chogall, Kerrigan and, most of all, Auriel AKA ice block for anyone who doesn't have it
Also how is Jaina a stretch if hers is literally called Ice Block

REMOVE fucking cleanse from this game, from EVERY character. No, your healer doesn't need more tools to deny my kill.

>>2032254
None of these characters have an "Ice Block" except for the ones I named,
>>2032254
>Also how is Jaina a stretch if hers is literally called Ice Block
Improved Ice Block =/= Ice Block

>>2032254
Have you tried not picking pyroblast you retard?

HeroesProfile estimates my ARAM mmr to be in the low diamond range but I'm still getting absolutely atrocious teammates that feed 12 times in as many minutes.

>>2034379
>ARAM mmr

>>1979745
old model looks like a plastic barbie, new model looks like a man. they should try a third time.

>>2034379
>HeroesProfile

>>2034409
There is definitely some sort of matchmaking going on, because I started averaging a 75% wr and now it's closer to 55% and players do seem better on average. It's just very loose matchmaking and I assume some matches are just 1-2 diamonds and 3-4 silvers on each team.

Bronze "people" are a special kind of braindead

only jaina should have ice block since ice block is a warcraft frost mage specific thing

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Happy Halloween Hotsbabs

>>2028952
Get out of town.

>>2036968
>they got even bigger

I will not lust after Qhira
I will not lust after Qhira
I will not lust after Qhira
FUUUCK

>>2036968
God i love big boobs

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>>2036968
did you do this by any chance? a fan of your work

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>>2036968
It's that time of the year again...

>>2037867
sex with orphea

>>2038126
She's fucking 14 at best

>>2037867
my wife and mistress :)

>>2038137
That was like 7 years ago

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>>2038137
Out of ten

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>>2038184

crazy that someone's still making art of hots in 2025. god bless this man

>>2039092
>morales
huh???

>>2039121
Oh so Alex and Whitemane ones are allowed, but Morales is the one you have issue with?

>>2037867
nah, just fan

>>2027830
6.6 range is stupidly strong and beats everything in aram. Recklessness is average since max stacks nerf. ZJ is so broken for aram you can pick anything anyway, might be possible to also not pick talents and still do okay.

>>2034492
Hots is a dead game where diamond rank barely exists, ARAM match making is so generous you can easily 5 stack and farm pubs assuming your team has some skill to play variety of characters. The only time i've ever had to wait for a game is playing with silenced players that has caused some weird queue times for me for some reason.

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This is such a funny talent. Apply 5 doses to a Sonya and suddenly she's a kitten who can't even hurt grandma. -50% spell power on a level 7 talent is crazy.

I can't believe HOTS it's back

>3 decide to afk because Aba was pushing 2 keeps and flame for not 'helping'
>let everyone push our core while the Aba is trying his best to def
what's the logic here

took a several month break from the game
>Forts, Keeps, and Core will no longer prioritize an Enemy Hero when an Allied Hero is attacked.
literally wtf

New PTR update
Diff: https://github.com/Asddsa76/Probius/commit/5151f47f45b865decf5d11442cb46fe1a5b196bf
AI summary: https://rentry.co/za5eiee9

>>2050090
Appreciate the effort, but the "AI summary" seems full of hallucinations when compared to the patch notes.
>>2048338
They're making small but significant changes to the game with the last two patches it seems. I have mixed feelings about this, but then again most players feel like any change is good.

>>2048338
So what's the point of having them?

Falstad's changes are insane if they go through.

>>2051324
>buffing the everliving shit out of mighty gust
>throw a stun on W too because fuck it
what did janny mean by this?

>>1980460
>>2034417
I cannot begin to fathom how weak the chins carrying these falsehoods had to be. Is there such a thing as an innie?

>>2050090
>lose You Want Axe? stacks on death
woah woah woah, lets not go crazy there
>kael can permanently stack max hp
Nobody is ever going to get more than 100 bonus out of it but jesus that could get silly.

this new patch will murder hero variety during matchmaking

Is it just me, or is Blackheart"s Bay even worse now?

>>1979745
alexsexo

>80% win rate over the past 24 solo QM games
>slowly start picking heroes that can still be fun to play with even while being steamrolled
i don't like this, just get it over with already, bring on the lose streak

Certified shitter magnets:
>Convection
>Shield Battery
>Animal Husbandry
>Insight

>>2064819
>posts truth in bait format
it's like you want to keep this general dead

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>come back after not playing for a year
>unranked queues are dead
>ranked queues are dead
>quick match queues doubled in length
>retards who still play raynor make you lose the game
it definitely feels like home...
but what happened with ranked? does anyone still play?

>>2065932
Region? Eu ranked is reasonable in terms of queue time
In fact I'd say that everything outside of unranked draft is very playable

>>2064819
>>Insight
which one was that one again?

>>2068307
Tickle karazim. Blue fist.

>>2065932
Ranked is slow during work hours, dead above platinum.

>>2066367
NA here
ive only gotten quick play matches in a reasonable time so far
>>2068852
thats fair, was playing during evening times though

I'm NA and my experience is ARAM is ALWAYS less than 1 minute, even at horrid times. Peak times it's instant. I don't play quick play so no idea. Ranked (plat) is typically ~5 minutes peak time, longer than I'm willing to wait off times.

These ARAM idiots who insist on fighting on the conveyor belt have increased my hatred of humanity faster than a thousand silver games.

>>2071941
Welcome to ARAM, please enjoy your stay
nobody ever gets better

heroes of the cope lol

Damn I never knew how rough anyone hardstuck in bronze has got it. I recently made a smurf and just had a game where we killed three enemy heroes on towers, took the tribs and dropped their core to 1 hp. Both me and the healer immediately pinged the boss to end the game and were completely ignored as our other three team members dove under their top fort trying to secure the last two kills, dying in the process. Enemy team ended up coming back and winning in classic towers fashion while the three other team mates just kept implying we were the dumb ones for "taking a camp" while they were fighting. I'm not even sure they realized that the boss did core damage

>>2064819
Convection
>challenging to stack
>places you in an overly aggressive mindset to chase stacks
>200 damage is not a lot when you account for HP scaling
>begging to get ganked
>a single death can set you back for the rest of the game

Mana Addict
>super easy to stack
>no fail state
>offsets your high mana cost issues
>large personal shield on a short cooldown
the more i play Convection, the more i realize it kinda sucks

>>2075429
honestly, worst (or best if they're on the enemy team) part of convection is that the player is more likely to juice up their flamestrikes instead of spreading more STDs that my retarded teammates will give to me

What's the worst talent in the game?
It's it egg shell?

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>>2050090
>probius in link
>no probius changes
>mfw
>>2076204
i don't think i have ever taken particle accelerator a single time

>>2077719
Particle Accelerator is good even on a W build because it can situationally be more reliable than Rift Shock, and it's also more range. And obviously it's good in synergy with Echo Pulse (underrated) and Shoot 'Em Up.

>>2076204
Raynor's on death level 20 and Hyperion level 20 are both really fucking bad.

>>2078660
The on death one is really good when both teams are feeding, so it can't be the worst. The Hyperion one is bad in the context of better choices at that level but stand alone I'm sure there's a worse one.

imagine
>execute orders: cast hyperion in the direction you were facing upon death; reduce death timer by 35s
now imagine an ARAM game where all 10 players are raynors

>>2076204
by the numbers it's Genji's pathfinder with a 34% winrate, followed by Fenix's inhibiting energy at 39% winrate. no other talents in the game have a sub 40% winrate

>heroesprofile
irrelevant

>usually just ignore/mute everyone
>decide to call someone shit that shits on me one time
>he is now afk
Right, I forgot how pussy people are in this game. Talk shit but can't take it back.

Someone tell me how to get good at Maiev.

>>2083226
practice your in and outs. just disrupting with the bind is often enough in low ranked fights. You can peel a lot better than most assassins, and you have the mobility and survival tools to make use of it. You're halfway between Kerrigan and Zeratul. Use your trait to bait out long cooldown skillshots like hook, or dodge ults. damage wise you want to be weaving autos in between qs, q has almost no cooldown when you hit multiple heroes, take advantage of tight corridors of the map to just shit out burst damage.

i feel so fucking dirty for playing aba, but only because my team keeps praising me like i was the second coming of jesus, meanwhile it's them who didn't suck, it's them who knew how to play their hero really well, knew when to retreat, when to engage, when to be a cheeky little fucker, and i just support them in doing so
i keep telling them they're great too, and i hope they don't just shrug it off as politeness

>>2085975
Get used to it. If you have little to no Aba experience, it's very easy to overrate an Aba player.

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Varian's Legacy is a level 20 talent. In a tier full of game-deciding talents, Anduin can opt for a weak DoT and weak sustain.

>>2086069
yeah but it's useful like once in 100000000 games so you're wrong and therefore skill issue

>>2086069
It's meant for his auto attack build, which is just weak.

>>2076204
In this order From the worst to least

Falstad - Level 1 - Dishonorable discharge
Lunara - Level 4 - Siphoning toxin
Kael'thas Level 1 - Fel infusion
The Lost Vikings - Level 16 - 64kb marathon
Butcher - Level 20 - Fires of Hell
Rime - Level 1 - Arthas
Auriel - Level 4 - Heavy burden
Kael'thas Level 1 - Convection
Genji - Level 1 - Path Finder
Gall - level 13 - Psychotic break
Greymane- level 4 - Insatiable
Malthael - level 4 - Throwing shade
Malthael - level 20 - Final Curtain
Dva - Level 1 - Full Metal
Mal-Ganis - Level 7 - Spreading Plague
Butcher- Level 13 - Cleaver
Valeera - Level 16 - Assassinate
Uther- Level 7 - Guardian of Ancient kings
Murky - Level 13 - Egg shell
Abathur - Level 1 - Reinforced carapace
Lt Morales- Level 1- Clear!
Tyrande- level 7 -Hunters Furry
Jaina - Level 16 - Snowstorm

There are MANY bad or super niche or situational talents that exist however the previously listed ones are TRAPs that create inferior playstyles or compete with other superior talents on the same tier. Thus by picking these awful traps you've lowered your own power level. There is also a high chance these will not work even under favorable conditions such as Siphoning toxin will decay as soon as you reach 3 stacks of Natures Toxin

>bro's broadcasting his permastuck silver status

Falstad's W1 is much better in the PTR.
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24242860/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-november-3-2025

>>2087554
Rime is not bad just very niche and then moreso invalidated if there's an OW character on the enemy team

>>2088658
I'm heavily biased towards block talents because they can easily be invalidated but Rime for me has always came across as massively redundant.

If you are playing the solo lane where Rime shines the most you are missing out on eternal hungers which helps in the damage and mana department because you are strongly likely going to be playing AA build in the solo lane.
As main tank the block stacks are going to be shredded down before you even manage to get anywhere close to anybody and your frozen tempest already acts as a massive strong AA debuff when you are ontop of auto attack heroes and you are going to need mana back of mana reduction talent to help offset prolonged fights.

For me Rime needs some other functionality other than block because as the playerbase has gotten older they coordinate and focus taegets easily breaking the 3 block stacks. Every other block talent other than butcher have a bonus effect or flavour behind them (etc share block with team)

Also AA arthas is trash now IMO with the reworked 13 & 16 talents. I've tried so many times and cannot get it to work. I feel like the 2sec CD mattered and being able to land two strikes on non heroes was also super strong for clear & mercs.

>>2087554
raven's intellect bros we are not on the list, we WON

>>2087554
Final Curtain is good though? Both ult upgrades are whatever, and No One Can Stop Death is only situationally useful.

leddit schizo poster is saying there's a hots mafia is this true anon
https://old.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/1paynj9/exposing_the_gm_wintrading_mafia_and_the_pros/

>>2090085
Just because it wasn't listed doesn't mean it isn't a bad talent just not a "Trap" talent. Not picking portal mastery or movespeed isn't going to make you play any worse at medivh.

>>2090108
Final curtain does nothing other than apply dot on the ground that's easily avoided, does nothing to structures and requires you to spam an ability with a high mana cost. In fact it's so bad it does not even help you clear minions because you need to be within range to press Q where you might as well just be auto attack or throwing out an untalented E to tag the entire wave. I agree Malthast's storm talents are underwhelming but throwing shade is a 20 do nothing storm talent. Honestly Malthael's main issue is survivability and the buyback can downplay if you so get picked by ganks or TF rotations.

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>>2091720
>Final curtain does nothing other than apply dot on the ground that's easily avoided
It's zoning. There's value even if players have to sidestep it. If they clip it, that's 8% hp's worth of guaranteed damage (+2% from initial impact but this looks bugged, not sure). It adds another tool to Malthael's kit and lasts 4 seconds every 5 seconds with Throwing Shade.

>>2091689
go back

>>2077951
>Echo Pulse (underrated)
honestly i see more people taking it these days (on the rare blue moon where i get the fabled probe ditto anyways). literally doubling your poke skillshot right out the gate is insane and it synergizes so well with later talents. doesn't stop me from taking warp resonance for W build because my brain is conditioned to release happy chemicals for big numbers
even on W build though i prefer rift shock for the added siege damage, but maybe i'll give particle accelerator a shot next time i pick up the game. what situations do you find it to be better in?

>>2091689
it's true for every game which as ranked pvp

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New patch:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24246292/heroes-of-the-storm-live-patch-notes-december-1-2025

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lol>>2093373

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>>2093395
lmao
this is the new talent that's somehow supposed to compete with mana addict
gg

What the fuck are these new towers, do they want to completely kill murky? Who asked for this

>>2094049
janny bought some crack and got a little too ambitious

>>2093373
>PvE stunning is now a talent
Why did they ruin Sylvana?

>>2094379
It was mega broken with a abathur clone.

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i just met an actual retard
retard as in the medical sense, not in the insult sense

>>2095156
Could be crippled; you never know
One time was raging at a teammate for being fucking retarded, looked up his twitch.tv name and saw he literally only had one hand

>>2087554
Furnace Blast just sucks period though, let's be honest

>add bhb and warhead back into ranked rotation

I feel like whatever changes they made aren't going to be enough to get rid of my years of hatred for those maps

>removed braxis from rotation

fuck off. that's my best map

Alright; janny's gotten too much of an ego, can we get someone to fucking fire this retard? Nothing at all was better than this shit

Zj Kael in every game of >aram, with a pinch of falstad, very cool and fun

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Add me for storm league
ReplyifLame#1484

>>2096186
>Furnace Blast just sucks period though, let's be honest

Of course but it still has it niche uses when you are far behind and your survivability is about 1.5 seconds and the best you can go for is mutual destruction. Lamb to the Slaughter doesn't do much when you cant follow up on your own targets. But yes Lamb should be priority pick majority of the time

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>expanding QM search takes suspiciously long
>get absolutely steamrolled

what do you think of people who only play aram (me)?

>>2097214
still better than chromie and the spider troon

>>2097214
i'm just tired of seeing the same assassins in QM every single game
without fail you'll find at least two absolute sweats playing
>Li Ming, Valla, Zera, Samuro, Genji
>honorable mention: Raynor, Hanzo, Tracer, Fenix, ZJ, Falstad

>>2106350
casuals
not that it's a bad thing

>>2106967
>honorable mention: [...], Fenix
???
i see Fenix as often as Rexxar, meaning barely ever, him being on your list seems more salt induced than anything, which is funny 'cause he's not even that good

>>2107582
Your server being?

>>2107644
NA

>>2107653
No wonder, Fenix is more common on EU.

>>2107654
i'm on EU actually

>>2091720
>that's easily avoided
Either they get zoned out or they clip it even once and eat a 8% of their HP at a minimum. If you took throwing shade at 4 then you get to throw it out every 5 seconds with a 4 second uptime. It becomes a fantastic poke and zoning tool, scoring good damage in big engagements where diving face first in will kill you and the only real opportunity cost being situational bonus damage on your Q.

>>2103641
Feral breeding sex with this dragon

Never played q build Tychus with a nano boost before and holy shit does it rip. With the 20 CDR you can chain your qs one after another until the nano expires. Pair that with an enemy team without many easy interrupts and they got absolutely hosed. I'll be chasing that high for a while