>>1999394
>You ever notice how the leaves start to turn red during in-game Autumn
Do they? Guess I never survive that long

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>>1999394
>we should talk about things we like about the game
I like fighting zombies and looting cool locations. Thoughts?

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>>1999399

>>1999394
>I wonder if we should talk about things we like about the game
We do, the issue is the negatives massively outweigh them.
Make a better game you fucking retard hack Lemmy.

>>1999394
I mostly like the new mapping stuff, elevation fixes and lighting.
It's hard to be positive about it though when map tools aren't released so no map developers can take advantage of them.

>>1999394
Who's bright fucking idea was it to give crafting a shitload of needless restrictions?
>NOT ENOUGH LIGHT
Hey nigger I have cat's eyes and can see outside without any light, let me fucking craft.
>NO FLAT SURFACE
I AM STANDING ON A FUCKING ROAD! It's a flat surface MILES LONG!

>>1999425
They should just make it so having optimal set ups give bonuses. That's way more fun than adding restrictions
>crafting on table? Faster and higher quality
is much more fun than
>you cannot craft a baseball bat with nails in it without a domestic table
When realistically that recipe could be done on the roof of a car or on the ground

You should be rewarded to engaging in the immersive stuff rather than punished for it being TOO "realistic". They could do stuff like eating at a table giving happiness, or steal some other shit from Rimworld.

They add a bunch of immersive shit just for the sake of tedium and don't use it to actually make the player enjoy the game. Being forced and being encouraged are different things.

I like playing sandbox on babby mode, finding a car, and then driving around exploring and building as much of a hoard as I can carry. That's what I would want to do in the real apocalypse.

>>1999435
>They could do stuff like eating at a table giving happiness, or steal some other shit from Rimworld.
Rimworld penalizes you for eating without a table though

>>1999399
Skill issue

>>1999547
>penalizes you for eating without a table
this is one of the few things in rimworld that really pisses me off. sure I get having all kinds of mental or emotional issues if you just watched your spouse get killed by raiders. but what kind of fucking sperg is going to flip out and start beating the shit out of people they live with because they didn't have a fucking table to eat at (and often they do and just didn't feel like pathing to it).

>>1999832
you know damn well that having to eat off the ground is not the only thing that led them to having a mental breakdown
it's the straw that broke the camel's back

>>1999832
It's just a minus 3 to mood, basically nothing, it's r*dditors who pretend it's anywhere near a big deal. And your colonists all have 3 different stages of mental breakdown, if they're on the first one they're not gonna beat others.

>>1999842
This. You might just take it in stride if your coworker is being annoying, but if that day you're also feeling hungry, thirsty, you had an argument before already, you have a small wound causing you a bit of pain, and you are overworked, then you might just start being aggressive towards the coworker. It's always a compound of issues in Rimworldd.

>>1999832
Some comforts in a life of suffering is nice. But as other anon's laid out it's really not an issue, in the stages of the game it will be happening you're either in the very early game which has a massive moodle buff for low expectations to offset it by a factor of 10, or so late you're part of raiding parties that should already be juiced up through narcotics or other lavish things.
Or your base layout is seriously fucked both aesthetically and in a practical sense.
>>1999609
Maybe that anon cranks up the difficulty.
I can't tell you the last time I've lived longer than two weeks, the big factor stopping me from playing b42 currently is none of the fun turbo difficulty mods have been updated.
And who can blame them when they break every fucking mod twice a month for the most inconsequential shit and no option to roll back a version.

Seriously if they let you select one of the many b42 versions I think mod makers wouldn't be so hesitant to patch their shit.
>>1999399
Install surviving through seasons/random start date if you can't stomach 90 hours of 0 depth life sim before you see changes.

>>2000000

>>2000695
this is so funny im not even mad

>>2000695
Now the game just needs to implement forced suicide.

>>2000695
>Zomboid is fun if you use mods you fucking chud bigot! They radically improve the game!
>The mods

>>1999435
Yeah I agree this is a much better system.
You should get bonuses for using logically better places
>at an actual workbench
>reduces required mats by 25% and gives the item 50% more durability
etc

>>2001220
>reduces required mats by 25% and gives the item 50% more durability
>magically need less mats from making it on table
Durability is fine as it's can fall into better quality. But fuck magical shit, bonuses should be realistic.

>brita is getting $170 a month to post pictures on their patreon
>2 years of showing images of things they're working on without ever actually releasing it
I wonder if these people even remember they're being billed.

>>2001548
Same kind of retards that pay for some other retard to make AI porn for them because they're too stupid.

>>2001538
>>2001220
>>1999435
Wanna know the funny thing? Quality levels were a feature of the new crafting system back when it was just a roadmap plan in like 2023.

>>1999394
Last thread >>1914009

Kenshi being a game without any ultimate goals yet still being way more fun, just shows how dogshit Zomboid is.
>How many hits can you take in Kenshi at the start?
Oh, not many
>What about end-game stuff?
Well a lot more due to armor and toughness
>Okay so how about Zomboid how many hits can you take?
One?
>And later on?
Still one, anything that provides protection makes your character depressed and you won't be crafting armor anyways
How the fuck did they make a game where IRL days of grinding results in no tangible bonuses?

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>>2002122
The main issue with zomboid power scaling is that no matter how much armour you wear you can still dice roll a one hit. And zombies are just pretty easy to just kite or flee from even from second one that you can clear an area with your bum character with just a tool hammer you found and clear it.

In games with little in defined goals there are things that are usually what's fun: developing your character (getting stronger), building things (settlements or structures) or developing wealth, taking out/surviving notably strong adversaries. Zomboid struggles with all of these compared to kenshi. Getting stronger doesn't feel that great because there isn't anything to kill except retardedly easy zombies (which are everywhere anyways). Building strutures is pointless for the most part as you can live in a premade one and making stuff like farms and production feels pointless as a player character needs so little to survive that just looting will sustain you for 100s of hours. And this doesn't even touch on the tedium of raising the skills needed to do it. So compared to kenshi where you can fight enemies to grow your player character (fun) and automate other NPCs doing boring shit like mining and crafting so you can feed/develop larger settlements and fund cool stuff like taking out bounties and factions. Or in zomboid you can personally watch green bars fill up while you try to make a base right next to a fully functional house, so you can farm food (you have 100s of canned goods anyways) so you can... not fight zombies.

Even the chopper event which is the latter can be ignored just by staying inside or roaming around.

A lot of this would be solved by NPCs, friendly and enemy. Or at least special infected or SOMETHING

>>2002138
It's just shit-tier game design where no matter what skills you have, it really doesn't offer you much.
>B-But you can make RAIN COLLECTORS!
Stay near a lake, even a tiny pond is infinite water?
>B-But uhm...Butchery skills!
Catching fish outperforms any hunting, what's next?
>Uhhh more weapon skills more crit chance!
Spears do 1 hit ko's on any crit and start with like a 50% chance to crit at level 0...
>W-Well...Fittness and strength gets higher!
Yeah if you grind them for like an IRL week maybe and fitness is still bugged and increases at a tiny fraction of strength.

>>1999394
>Sometimes I wonder if we should talk about things we like about the game just for a change of pace.
I like realism. I dislike unrealistic stuff.
Example
>old farming unrealistic - bad
>new farming more realistic - good
>there too little guns compared to reality - bad
>you can change the setting to make they ammount more realistic - good

>>2002207
>new farming more realistic - good
You mean 'realistic' in the sense you can't feed yourself via farming and nothing grows because being even a tiny bit out of season=total plant death
That sort of realistic?

>>2002138
>A lot of this would be solved by NPCs, friendly and enemy.
NPCs would not fix it, they'd only make it worse. You're still gonna get dice roll one hit by humans (especially ones armed with guns or powerful melee weapons). They won't interact with developing your character since zomboid's combat only really cares about your skill in the damage calculation, building things is still a stupid idea because of the prebuilt houses and only player structures are destructible (and zombies are drawn to them because they are) and looting will still be plenty to sustain yourself and a bunch of NPCs, there will be just be less to loot eventually as the NPCs magically hoover up loot from locations swarmed by zombies. God help you if you expect any kind of robust automation too.

>>2002228
>fanfiction
I accept your concession.

>>2003065
Lemmy stop getting drunk and bitching to your customers on 4chan, program your fucking game.

>>2003067
>everyone who disagree with me is Lemmy
Meds.

>>2003083
Plz Lemmy, stahp. The game is objectively getting worse!

Any mod recs for upgrading your cars to have better armor? I have completely abandoned zombie combat after the shove bug, so I just want to focus on fighting bandits. Thing is, I would like to have tankier cars (without actually using apc mods) so a sweeper squad doesn't instantly cripple my car.

>>2004690
Standardized vehicle upgrades brings it to vanilla but unfortunately the filibuster rhymes addon hasn't been ported.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3304582091
Outside of that KI5/Tsar vehicles all come with armor you can metalwork and slap on.

Build 42.12 was so tiny that Retanaru didn't even make a fucking non-stream video on it.
Lol, lmao.

>>2005626
TIS has got to be the laziest studio in existence.

>>2005823
Do you truly believe they lose to CIG in that regard? In my opinion TIS have silver medal

>>2007360
not lose*

>>2007360
True, but at least Star Citizen is wildly recognized as a scam for delusional autistic Star Wars fanboys with Californian jobs that can afford to spend 20k on a virtual ship. On the other hand, normies still believe in PZ, and the videos on youtube almost never talking about the issues with the studio reinforce this.

>>2007360
CIG is failing to make an impossible game. It's sensible that no amount of money will result in Star Citizen actually working.
TIS is trying to make a 2010 indie game that countless other studios have made without an issue.
AND FAILING.

>>2005626
>>2007754
>>2007722
>>2007360
>>2005823
Chuds. Do you want poor Lemmy and team to crunch or what? Please take meds, and go on tolerance lessons.

>>2007781
>Do you want poor Lemmy and team to crunch or what?
I mean ideally everyone here wants their resignation and suicide. But I digress.

>>2007360
I have more faith in Scam Citizen being finished in an acceptable state than Project Zomboid hitting 1.0 in our lifetime.

>>2007781
I want them to fucking die so there's no question the game won't get finished

>Dwarf Fortress is adding a whole new siege mechanic and systems
>Zomboid still can't get calorie counts (fucking INTEGERS) correct

>>2008236
where's the magic update?

>>2002138
>geistbox
Huh I remember talking to this person on a Sonic forum like 13 years ago

Doing my bi-yearly check in. Has lummox figured out NPCs yet?

>>2008736
he hasn't even figured out that an entire cow contains more than 2000 calories

>>1999408
uhh based?

>>2008250
Showing up before the NPC update Lemmy, get to programming you nigger.

>>2002138
That's one of the best ways to describe Zomboid lmao.
>Zomboid is the game where there's only two activities, grinding skills and killing zombies.
>The latter is fun and the former is boring
>Did I mention the former is designed to make you never need to do the latter ever again?
It's truly amazing, they designed a game where you're intentionally supposed to stop doing the fun stuff.

>>2002448
>NPCs would not fix it, they'd only make it worse. You're still gonna get dice roll one hit by humans (especially ones armed with guns or powerful melee weapons
That's fine. At least it's dynamic and insteresting rather than "random closet zombie jank bites me through all my layers and now my run is over"

All the things you said are challenges that would make the game more interesting. What's more fun? Fighting a human faction of which differ by gear and individual skill which you can only tackle after gearing/levelling up your own character because it's actually hard so you can rob their stash of loot to fund your own faction or... going house to house killing small groups of easy reptitive zombies. OR WATCHING GREEN BAR FILL SO YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT SIT IN BASE.

>>2008736
Anon, I'm not even joking when I tell you, asking that question before 2030 at the bare minimum is a waste of time.

>>2007781
>Lemmy and team
Didn't they outsource all their coding to russians like 4 years ago?
Lemmy and co were only writing blogposts on zomboid site but they stopped doing that too

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>>2009890
[Sad news] Lemmy margin called during weekend crypto crash. Young entrepreneur ruined, Zomboid cancelled!

>>2009922
>sad news
You mean good news. At least if that was true the legions of dick riders couldn't hide behind the "it'll get finished eventually" card

also checked

You know a game is top quality when so many mechanics are so old and untouched that nobody has any fucking clue how they work anymore.
Look me in the eyes and tell me that trapping makes any fucking sense and the game tells you how it works.
Because it absolutely does not.
Zomboid is a fucking wiki-game.

>>2010151
I love that you can put the wrong food in traps and get nothing.

>>2010151
Listen Chud, animals, especially birds, NEVER come within 75 meters of any human being (we're all equal btw you evil racist, more Somalians for your country now!) even if they're completely hidden in their bedroom with the windows closed, animals physically cannot do that!

>>2010151
Something about every mechanic that involves "leave the cell or nothing happens" probably pisses me off the most from respawning to trapping
I genuinely think foraging is a well designed skill and shows how far they've come, but I've yet to use any of the new faggotry because b42 is so fucking fucked
Hope it wasn't a one-off thing that an intern made well and then was fired over

>>2011413
>"leave the cell or nothing happens"
Depending where your base it's not that annoying traps wise. I base myself in Fort Redstone control tower building. And put traps in forest near south-east entrance before going to sleep. One quick spring at morning, take just about half ingame hour and help keep colories down (unlike most players i struggle to not raise the weight).

>>2011504
Amazingly, rabbits, birds, squirrels, etc, do not magically know where humans are, through barricaded doors and walls in real life.
The game is retarded.

>>2011511
Those, rabbits, birds, squirrels, etc. Is with us now? In this thread?

>>2011517
Lemmy can you please go outside for once in your fucking life. Some people have issues with squirrels getting TOO CLOSE to their property.

>>2011511
And even when they do see you irl, their safety distance is generally just a few meters. 75 meters is absurdly retarded, the fact it's hardcoded into the game is proof of evilness or clinically retarded IQ.

>>2011522
>Zombies functionally don't wander or anything at all
>Until you leave town for three days and the zombies have been fucking each other and shitting out babies, making the population go back to it's comically high value
Shit-tier game design.

>They added fucking pottery and glassmaking before adding BREWING
Holy shit.

>>2011519
Rent free.

>>2011644
No, rent isn't free you commie retard. You're a month behind on payments.

We need poster-count back. It's feel like it's two schizos arguing with each other making up 90% of post.

>>2011649
It's more so just one retarded troll and a bunch of people replying to their bait.

>>2011522
Didn't they remove the 75 trap tile issue with B42?

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>>2011649
agreed, i wonder how many of the posters here have posted porn, i know there is me but im unsure if the rest are also me?

>>2011649
Sorry I fucked off to play fallout 76 while Lemmy decides what he actually wants b42 to be. :^)

>>2013063
Joke? Is fo76 actually good now?

Is there any reason to bother barricading when playing with bandits? I had one completely ignore my defenses by unwelding the double sided sheet window from outside and proceed to let the horde of homeless into my house with 0 noise made.
>>2013546
Seemed fine to me when I tried it for free a few years ago.
Granted I only played for about 60~ hours with friends but it seemed decently competent and more of fallout 4 if that's what you're looking for.

Biggest complaint we all had was the pitt ran like supreme dogshit regardless of PC hardware and the complete and total lack of quest progress sharing in instanced content. Seriously what the fuck is wrong with the developer letting people join friends instances and NOT get progress because of it.

>>2013546
> Is fo76 actually good now?
Depends.
If you want a shockingly shallow time-sink of a multiplayer looter shooter?
Yeah I guess it'll scratch that itch, if you're some kind of low-taste spiteful mutant normie.
If you want a good Fallout game?
Absolutely not.

>>2009588
>At least it's dynamic and insteresting rather than "random closet zombie jank bites me through all my layers and now my run is over"
Compared to "Human NPC whacks me through all my layers and now my run is over?"

>Fighting a human faction of which differ by gear and individual skill which you can only tackle after gearing/levelling up your own character because it's actually hard so you can rob their stash of loot to fund your own faction
You know what game we're talking about right? Gear will do nothing for you, and the loot is gonna be dogshit compared to the risk. Just look at the echo point gunstore for an example.

Anyone have a spare code at hand for PZ?

>>2014901
sent ;)

can i still nullify coward + claustrophobic by surviving long enough in b42?

https://bsky.app/profile/theindiestone.bsky.social/post/3m3cztm55mk24
LOL MORE MERCHANDISE
LMAO
PAY UP YOU FUCKING GOYIM

>>2015187
>bluesky
nvrm, can someone get me a key from g2a

>>2015250
no

>>2015187
Just saw this, fucking hell, they truly are shameless. They plan to milk this nostalgia cow until it's dry.

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>>2015187
Zombie girl plushies and onaholes?

>>2015187
I fucking love SPIFFO

>>2015187
gonna pound that plastic spussy nonstop until multiplayer gets released

>>2013063
>Sorry I fucked off to play fallout 76
Even worse than PZ.

Why is hunger unrelated to calories eaten?

Why is hunger unrelated to calories eaten?

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>>2016032
it's how sated you feel!

>>2015187
>Bluesky
Devs confirmed pedophiles???

>>2016032
That makes sense though. You could eat thousands of calories of ice cream in a single sitting, but eating 100 calories of lettuce would be a slog.

>>2016232
yeah. The actual issue is that the calorie numbers don't make any sense, which they could easily fix by looking up some numbers and changing them, lol

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>>2016283
But a cow only has 200 calories.

cut down on chore simulation
increase fun interactions

>>2016590
you will watch the green bars fill up and you WILL like it

>The devs think that drying herbs requires a fucking 24/7 campfire, even in summer
Are they fucking retarded?

>>2016645
Yes

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>>2015187
>$59.99 + tip for a hoodie with lines drawn on MSPaint
The Indie Slop

>>2016590
You WILL do a "remove pebble from shoe" action that takes 30 IRL minutes (with no animation, it just reuse the "crafting" animation) and cannot be cancelled
And you WILL incur a major crippling debuff for not doing it.

>>2016645
No. They just extremely ignorant. Which is worse than retardation, as being retarded mean you have no choice but be retard, and ignorance is a choice.

To dry most herbs it's enough to put them on windowsill at summer.

>>2016645
I guarantee this is reusing code intended for preserving fish and meats with 0 leniency.
It's like how crops instantly die if the temperature drops sub zero for a single game tick, they didn't put any bufferstate in.

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NEW GAME MECHANIC JUST DROPPED IN
>introducing "breathing"
>realistic depiction of needing to pump air in and out of your lungs manually
>breathing in and out both take a full second (shown by a green bar) during which your character cannot move and the action cannot be canceled
>breathing produce a wheezing noise that attracts zombies from 3 towns away
>breathing too slow will cause the "choking" state, causing damage reduction and movement speed reduction
>breathing too fast will cause the "hyperventilating" state, causing damage reduction and movement speed reduction
>breathing at a perfect interval will cause the "oxygenated" state, causing damage reduction and movement speed reduction
>failing to breath at all for too long kill your character

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>>2016754
>on first release it's bugged where you still need to do it in fast forwarded time meaning if he speed up time you either need to click impossibly fast or instantly kill your character
>this includes going to sleep
>takes 3 weeks to hotfix

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>>2015187
>>2016666
I'm not sure whether it's retarded because it looks tacky and stupid or brilliant because it's exactly what the people paying for zomboid merch would wear

>>2015187
>pay 50% more for shipping and taxes in US
EL
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OH

>>2016666
tip?
checked, also

>>2016932
Yeah, +tip +reparations +donation to israel

>>2016945
lolwut

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2025/10/since-last-we-spoke/
LMAO

>>2016932
Said it as a joke, but honestly it wouldn't even be one, you'd have to pay extra for shipping anyway.

>>2016989
Wow! All these new people hired a year ago and they sure delivered! Thanks for the update on what exactly they're doing (and the request for money). Goodbye again for ten months! What a lovely news post.

>>2016989
>the movers and the shakers
who the fuck talks like that

>>2016989
>new design director
I hope this means Lemmy is winding back his lack of participation and someone will actually wrangle the tards.

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>>2017005
just imagine this guy typing up everything you read and you might understand

>>2016989
too many cooks in the kitchen

I cant believe this but I genuinely wish a AAA company would buy this shitty game and take over development

>>2016989
>all of the people they hired are fucking modders
LMAO

>>2017030
>I want Zomboid but with even-uglier characters and everyone being gay/trans
You do not understand what you ask for.
>>2017032
Can't be having modders embarrass the slow development of the game, we have to poach...I mean hire them! Pay no attention to the files we uploaded to their PC's as blackmail!

>>2016283
>>2016232
its also kinda gay that it can kill you when the moodle isnt related to nutrition directly (although you have to try to starve to death via the moodle)
meanwhile you cant freeze to death it just brings you to 1 hp
>>2016989
I actually think this is a pretty positive change, at least in theory
having a technical director (and other programming leads) that arent lemmys retarded ass sounds like a step towards unfucking this game

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>this is literally the only thing relevant to the game

>>2017042
Until you realize lemmys ego probably means they have to run every single change by him for approval and he will still prevent good things from happening.

>>2016989
>no mentions of bows, brewing
>car update not part of build 42
>s-shove bug fix next week g-guys
I fucking hate those people so much.

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>>2017059
one more week
trust the plan

>>2017059
i remember when they gave a confident estimate for b42 unstable and they were off by like 1.5 years
"we need more time... ok heres the update without multiplayer or 50% of the features we were blogging about"
and now we're here years later, its in the same state as when b42 unstable first released but with glacial hotfixes
and it's just fucking insulting to think back to his first estimate given the current state. how fucking delusional and lazy must they be

>>2017056
very possible
But I dont think this games development could possibly get worse unless a clone of lemmy joins the team

>>2016989
This sounds good until you realize that lemmy is still the king nigger in charge. I bet that design director is gonna be shocked at how fucking lazy everyone is given that he's worked on actual games.

the ning kigger

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>>2017042
>meanwhile you cant freeze to death it just brings you to 1 hp
The more I find out stuff like this the more I realize the game is a mile wide and an inch deep.

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>>2016989
>here's all those modders we poached so they can not do shit at TIS
>here's all this work we accomplished in a year (it's fucking nothing)
7DTD won

>>2016989
>hey guys we have a team now, not like we said anything about this leading up to b42 whatsoever
>buy our merch
>kthxbye
Has Lemmy finally lost it?

>>2017132
I wouldn't even call it a mile wide.

Airburst is literally the worst support gadget.

>>2017371
Wrong thread obviously but it still makes me angry either way

>>2016989
Hopefully the halo reach guy can tard wrangle this studio but I doubt he's anyone special.

>>2017401
Even if he is someone special with lemmy still on top there's only so much he can do to try to get them to actually do some fucking work

I wish Notch would buy this instead of ranting about troons on twitter.

>>2017440
I thought he was working on a new game?

>>2017624
Does he still suffer from depression that he refuses to get help for?

>>2017032
Explain it how hiring someone that is familiar with game and it's code is le bad.

>>2017136
>7DTD won
I hope your enjoying your anal tracker.

>>2017949
>Modders are free
They make mods
>Modders get hired
They stop making mods and get tasked with doing whatever stupid bullshit lemmy has them do

>>2017949
That TIS have a track record for hiring modders and making them work on nothing of value.

>>2017982
Modders getting hired is literal shush money to soothe Lemmy's ego.

>>2017950
The point is that even an actual scam like 7DTD that slapped a 1.0 label on a feature incomplete version is less of a blunder than Project Zomboid.

>>2018158
>is less of a blunder
Yep, it's seem you do enjoy it.

>Character has Mechanic profession
>Literally unable to repair any vehicle despite presumably spending years working on them
???

>>2018250
you don't get to skip grinds, only selectively choose one or two to be a little bit faster than the others

>>2018238
I think that anons right.
I don't particularly like 7dtd because of how half assed it is such as using the same placeholder animations from the earliest alpha for everything, but there's at least a gameplay loop that necessitates interacting with the world.

It's not an amazing game by any means but there's more to it than week 1
>>2018250
>character has carpenter profession
>can't make a wooden fence without gaps that's straight

>The year is 2050
>The undead roam the streets, you're one of the lucky few that survived this far
>Last night you had to kill a man over a can of beans
>You see an electronics store, and beyond all reason a working desktop computer
>You rush to it in a frenzy, it even has an internet connection
>You type on the keyboard, muscle memory working despite decades of having never used one
>"Does Build 42 have multiplayer yet?"
>You get the answer, and push the muzzle of your handgun against your temple

>>2018250
>character have a job and hobby
>have to be a fat illiterate retard

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Lemmy is still in charge so the game won't improve no matter who they hire

>>2018320
I love when leftists say two polarized outcomes instead of the more likely middleground that they deliberately ignore to further their own message.
>NOOOOOOOO WE NEED THE GAME TO BE SLOW AND WITH MINIMAL PEOPLE OR ELSE WE'LL BE CALLED CORPO-NIGGERS!
Orrr maybe the game will just be developed better and people will be happier?

>>2017949
>be Aiternon
>making a fucking insane NPC mod
>it already works
>NPCs make factions, fight eachother, loot things, fortify bases, you can join up with them
>he is working on having a multiplayer server with the mod running
>plans for military checkpoints and patrols, bandits, events, more NPC management
>few days after announcing his plan to get the mod working on multiplayer
>takes down his mod
>stops all development
>says he is no longer able to continue work on the mod
>TIS dev blog comes
>>hello everyone we hired Aiternon
>>he will be working on a fishing minigame :)
>year later and the blog posts are still talking about the fucking in development fishing minigame
So yes, TIS hiring good modders is a bad thing for the game. They hire them specifically to stop them from making content better and faster than the dev team.

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>>2018320
>do something
>random internet fag criticizes it regardless
>wah wah wah, we just can't win!

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>somebody asks for a refund
>lemmy goes on a huge rant
>spitefully says he will not work on the game at all over the weekend just because of the refund request and will just play deus ex instead
>dares somebody else to send him an email about it
>this is all in a public blog post for zomboid
>comments are filled with hugs and kisses supporting him
This is required reading for anyone interested in zomboid, to know exactly the kind of developer you are giving money to. Know that he has only gotten worse after 15 years of getting his dick sucked.

https://web.archive.org/web/20111009214304/http://www.theindiestone.com/lemmy/index.php/2011/10/08/sense-of-entitlement/

>we will never have fully proper functional npcs
Imagine going back in time 20 years and telling our past selves "there's no npcs and the game still won't be finished in 20 years, also multiplayer won't work on the latest build in 2025"

>>2018387
we were so close
I know the one thing I'm doing if I ever get a time machine

>>2018673
Steal a second laptop?

>>2018437
Timetraveler nigga, it's 2025, 20 years still didn't pass. You posting from wrong timepoint.

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Star citizen fag here who also enjoys (enjoyed) zomboid and was on the hitman raid. Im wondering if our game will finally release before b42 multi comes out. Lemmy has fucking lost his rocker.

>>2018769
oh fugg....

>>2018372
>he will be working on a fishing minigame :)
And the best part is that the fishing minigame sucks dick, is programmed like a child made it, and had shitloads of bugs at release which they didn't even bother to fix properly.
Who the fuck designs a fishing minigame where the fish magically gains super-strength in the last meter of reeling in, and it cannot tire out EVER?
The most basic of fishing minigames is to make it a back and forth battle of tiring the fish out, its not that hard!
Bigger fish=more stamina
Or you know, do what Zomboid does and make a 1 pound goldfish fight as hard as a 80 pound PIKE.
>>2018387
They then nuked their dev-blog permanently after this, destroying what little transparency there already was. Lmao. Faggots.

>>2018373
>Do something that is released to millions upon millions of people
>Complain that one (1) message is not sucking your dick
I hate turbo-online faggots so much. Same shit as the celebrities with their "muh death threats" (who are completely invented 90% of the time anyway). If you want to plaster your face or product everywhere, you WILL get some antagonistic comments, don't be a faggot and try to destroy the world over it.

As for TIS, they're lying leftists faggots once again, no one excepts them is masturbating at how many people are in the studio, because that doesn't matter, what does is the quality of the dev. All of Stardew Valley was made by a single guy except for the multiplayer code. Kenshi was developed by Christ Hunt alone for 6 years, Rimworld was developed by Tynan alone for 2 years and now only has 7 developers in total and is still utterly mogging Zomboid by releasing a game-changing DLC every year.

Meanwhile TIS wants us to suck their dick for hiring 50 of their tranny friends when calorie values haven't been fixed for as long as the system has existed.

do all the fish still permanently disappear from the entire map if you completely exhaust the fish supply in one area?

>>2019329
Not sure if that has been fixed or not, but they turbo-nerfed fishing calories because of course they had to.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SURVIVE WITHOUT TRANSMORPHING MILK INTO EXTRA-CALORIE BUTTER YOU FUCKING CHUDS

>>2019340
You a genually shizophrenic if you believe that you must eat butter to survive even after fishing nerf.

>>2019404
No but it's getting closer towards such a dumb premise.
The devs don't realize that nerfing everything makes for a dull game.

>>2019406
>devs don't realize
Can summe 99% of game problems pretty much. They are pretty ignorant bunch.

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This has to be fucking bots. There can't be thousands of s()yfags genuinely updooting "omg guys le developers are literally le avengers!". Devs hiring jeets to create false hype is so fucking cringe.

>>2019537
>You are now reminded that most reddit users are at Eglin Airbase, where the USA glowies operate massive botfarms
It's amazing to think that American taxpayer money goes towards shilling Zomboid of all things.

>>2019537
>>2019546
it would take a PR firm like 50 thousand dollars to wash any normie-facing social media with an opinion of your choice for a few hours, for a game with millions in yearly revenue I would sooner assume it's genuine dentheads enjoying their slop or just botted likes to have the correct opinion quickly and discreetly established after their announcement

Gotta love how dogshit-trivial it is to bypass the 'survival' mechanics the devs had in mind.
>Water shuts up
Oh the horror, there's only like a million liters that NEVER goes off, in various sinks, baths, toilets. Or you know, just live next to a fucking lake and boil the water.
Or live next to a well/pump which has infinite water.
Or build a roof mounted water storage and plumb it to a tap for functionally infinite pure water.
>Electricity is out
Oh shit, that means I can't freeze any of the food that I was eating on the spot anyways! Otherwise this is completely pointless.
>Winter is coming!
Who gives a shit? Throwing on a sweater and pants makes you immune to the cold, you'll have more than enough food anyways, and if you even survive more than one ingame year you're WELL beyond what the developers intended you surviving.
It's fucking baffling to design a game around dying in the first week, making all the content long-timeframe shit, but then making everything long-timeframe POINTLESS.

>>2019566
we've heard your complaints and decided not to listen
get hype for the next map expansion and BREWING!!!

>>2019571
The map expansions especially are fucking pointless.
>More buildings that contain the same shit you already have plenty of!
They added a COUPLE of places which are neato, like the Louisville checkpoint, and the environmental-storytelling is pretty good all-around.
But this game seriously fucking needed more unique loot and on-map quests and shit.

>>2019575
>But this game seriously fucking needed more unique loot and on-map quests and shit.
that's too hard to make, how about 20 new flyers nobody gives a shit about made by our dedicated Indian colleague we hired on fiverr?

>>2019578
>Massive unground complex in the secret military lab that everyone predicted would exist
>Meaning the zombie virus lore is basically 99% figured out by this point
>And we don't even have fucking NPC's yet lmao

NEW GAME MECHANIC: LOITERING
WATCH THAT GREEN BAR FILL UP OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!

all right settle down

>>2018320
>more expertise in areas we were sorely lacking
like game dev

>>2019609
Keep quiet Lemmy.

>>2019603
give them back jamal

>>2019537
>1000 bots vs 1 dedicated chizo
Who will win?

>>2019580
>Massive unground complex in the secret military lab that everyone predicted would exist
>That you will never explore because of the zombie population

>>2019853
Nah, the reason is that there no hidden lore nor good loot inside. It's both filled with zeds and have nothing of the worth, unless you want to have giant bunker as your base.

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>first time b42
>start out at west point
>clear out louisville refugee camp
>trash loot
>stay in one of the louisville mansions
>bring all of my stuff there
>want to level up metalworking
>with high end stuff i need leather for bellow
>i found a bellow and electric forge but it absolutely does nothing
>i have to get leather
>no deer in sight for days
>the next option is to drive at the end of the other map to get pigs and cows
when i got to irvington i found out that i need hooks and shit to butcher animals but in apocalypse almost every loot is gone. i quit the game its not worth it with this bullshit crafting. cant really use leather from jackets? i am so mad

>>2019957
Why the hell would you drive to irvington if there is animal pens directly below louiseville, north to quarantine fence?

>>2019974
i did. theres no pigs there only chickens

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>>2019975

>>2019566
The problem is that realistically, an apocalypse where people are gone but infrastructure is intact and you're not entirely beholden to regular societal rules all of those things are quite trivial to bypass.

Water? Yeah there's shitloads of water everywhere that's free for the taking that will keep for ages, and you can boil or purify whatever you do find that's from a suspect source. Electricity? Might make boiling your water a little more annoying but otherwise irrelevant. Cold? Modern buildings are pretty heat efficient and you can bundle up or use fire to keep warm when indoors and if the electricity is still on you can just run a space heater.

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the fuck is this motherfucker doing hes been doing it all week

i feel like im fucking playing runescape with all these crap crafting shit just make it like cdda with skills going up while reading

>>2020919
Realistically, you'd last for at least a few months only staying in your specific street, and you'd find a good amount of guns in 50% of houses at least. And retards screech at this saying it would make surviving too easy, but it wouldn't be if Lemmy was competent in any way to provide actually interesting mechanics of survival especially through wounds and diseases, as well as some sorts of quests and long-term objectives. Lemmy just can't into game design.

>>2020926
He's trying to help you sleep. Count him.

>>2021023
Human NPCs that can be recruited. That's alone would solve the issue.

>Shove bug fix is 700 MB
huh?

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>>2021067
Yeah but that's literally never happening. Muh work under the hood is a blatant lie, we only got one video years ago and it was the devs playing on multi pretending to be NPCs. No NPC work of any kind has been done, and it will never happen, Lemmy is just running a gigantic scam.

>>2021070
Wait what the fuck, how is this minuscule changelog fucking OBESE at 700MB?

>>2020931
>cdda with skills going up while reading
dda axed that ages ago, now you have to do some token grinding after reading.

>>2021067
>Human NPCs that can be recruited.
I still don't see how. Human NPCs are just gonna be more chores you gotta do. They're not gonna be anything fun to work with even if you could rimworld colony manage them, because all they'd add is a good way to get randomly shot in the back by friendly fire, dumbasses drawing a bazillion zombies when you're out and about looting and adding +1 for each survivor to the multiplier of calories, water and whatever other loot you need long term.

Zomboid needs to take it's existing mechanics and add depth to them (You know, like more reliable power generation, the water pump thing they lied about prior to the crafting update, weapon/part quality levels to make crafting at least a little deeper) instead of stacking on yet another massive plate they need to balance as well.

welp i just died after 2 months. you mean i cant look at the left of my fucking car window?
fuck this game

>>2020931
imagine if in runescape all your skills reset to level 1 when you die
kek

>>2021190
this is how you died

I genuinely don't see how NPCs in PZ would work.
>NPCs are just like players
So basically you have a walking zombie beacon who will most likely get in your way all the time, get you or themselves killed by being unable to selectively aggro, exhaust themselves trying to attack one zombie in melee because their weapon is dull, and waste all your ammo shooting at everything it sees the instant they get in combat.
They also eat and grab everything in the map, leaving entire areas empty just by existing.
>NPCs literally cheat to survive
You basically have an automated turret that cleans out entire areas for you while you read a book in the toilets.
(and the devs hate the game being even remotely easy so you know full well they won't do that)
>NPCs as enemies
You get shot from out the screen or stabbed from a blind spot because of the isometric view and randomly die because it hits you in the neck or it caused a deep wound.

>>2021277
Yeah sadly
I guess you could limit what type of guns they can obtain and only allow them to hit you in the legs, arms, and sometimes chest.
and give them bad aim

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>spot the /vm/ Project Zomboid poster

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the fuck is this shit? it means im losing loot every day? WTF?

>>2022049
Diminished loot - invisible NPCs stealing loot from unseen areas.
Shit mechanic, should be disabled.

>>2021989
>watching green bars fill up
I recognize this poster, definitely from this thread.

>>2021989
Kinda weird to shill all those other subpar zombie games.
>>2022083
It's not wrong, green bars filling up is a huge chunk of the game.

>>2022119
>all those other subpar zombie games.
so whats your baseline good zombie game?

>>2022125
Good zombie game? Left 4 Dead
Good zombie survival game? Fuck if I know, they're all either stuck in a permanent half-baked state or suffer from the dev undiagnosed autism. Or in the case of PZ, both.

>>2022144
Thread was about zombie survival games though.

spears are so garbage right now

>>2022393
Spear technology wasnt perfected until 1994. The game takes place in 1993

>>2022083
There are several of us, several.

>>2022049
>it means im losing loot every day?
Yes.

>>1999394
>>2002077
Is this the necrophile general or something?

>New mod
>Introduces functional locomotives with interiors per cabin
>A train conductor skill can be acquired by one player per server
>The holder of the skill must be killed for it to be claimed once more
>The skill's holder is tied to the train and can not leave it's proximity without suffering immeasurable harm
>This can be overcome by locating a lone accessory on the map that when equipped by the train conductor allows them to roam without penalty
>The train conductor can carry players (and hordes of the undead) in individual carriages across the map
>Zombies will ignore the train conductor unless the lone accessory is equiped
>The train conductor can not harm or be harmed by zombies without the accessory being equipped
>The train conductor can command zombies to clear blockages or attack settlements

>>2022800
>Zombies will ignore the train conductor unless the lone accessory is equiped
>The train conductor can not harm or be harmed by zombies without the accessory being equipped
>The train conductor can command zombies to clear blockages or attack settlements
Holy slooppa

>>2022805
Skibidi rizz on the rocks, huak tuah!

there has to be a better zombie game

>>2022800
>>2022805
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1262460/Zompiercer/

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>>2023254
If you want a detailed simulation very autistic about the amount of mechanics, Zomboid is pretty much the only thing. Unfortunately, the devs are also retards on top of being autists. If you want a fun and coherent experience but less detailed, pretty much any zombie survival sim with some dev time behind it will do the trick.

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>>2023289
>5 years old EA
>Still in alpha
>"I plan on doing a 2-3 years EA period"
This genre is fucking cursed.

>>2023629
well it is a single person project

last stand aftermath could have been perfect bros

>>2021277
NPCs you could task to water your crops and clean up chicken shit would be kind of nice though

>>2023953
If Zomboid NPCs don't at least have simple routines and job assignation that can be found in any shovelware colony sim we can safely say Zomboid was the indie scam of the millenium. Giving them jobs once they're in your community and letting the IA sort itself out should be the bare minimum.

>>2021277
this has been done multiple times in zombie games already. they stay at the base or die
>You get shot from out the screen or stabbed from a blind spot because of the isometric view
this fucking developer needs to know how silhouettes or outline works behind walls when this was already possible since diablo 1

we should have hidden labs, cybernetic modules, mutation drugs and evolving zombies

>>2024001
Vasyan...

>>2021277
>You get shot from out the screen
Never understood this complaint
Keeping with realism, wouldn't most bandit NPCs be really hesitant to shoot you? Your average playthrough won't really go on long enough for lawlessness to be the norm

>>2021277
>I genuinely don't see how NPCs in PZ would work.
it kinda seems like the devs don't either

>>2024200
>Keeping with realism, wouldn't most bandit NPCs be really hesitant to shoot you?
The game has 'realism' when it punishes the player but otherwise is full of gamey faggot bullshit.
'Bandit' NPC's will be perma-aggro'd and have infinite ammo, firing with seemingly inhuman accuracy.

is it me or these less zombies in b42?

>>2024618
The zombie count radically changes from patch to patch.
B42 had a metric shitload too many zombies, so then they overlaid a 'no zombies' random puzzle above the heatmaps, so that cut out like 50% of the zombies.
Still way too many, unless every fucking house was packed full of 20 jeets or something.

>>2024650
well i spawned in muldraugh and the main street outside the warehouse was like only 10 zombies. i had a vastly different experience in 41 where i had to lure them out in the trees

>>2018372
>year later and the blog posts are still talking about the fucking in development fishing minigame
So his one and only mod was a fluke

>>2024663
Welcome to the new heatmaps and 'no-zombies' maps!
Where one playthrough might have 1000 zombies outside a random house, and another run might have 0 zombies in front of the police station!

>>2024666
>So his one and only mod was a fluke
>crashed cars mod
>better lockpicking
>aquastar yacht club
>vehicle towing (as in the feature itself, which was not in the game until the devs saw Aiternon make a mod for it and then decided maybe they should add towing)

The problem is TIS, not the modder.

>>2024685
Well he hasn't finished a minigame in years. Either he's not as skilled as you think or they're paying him just so he can spin around in his chair at the office all day.

>>2024692
>Well he hasn't finished a minigame in years. Either he's not as skilled as you think or they're paying him just so he can spin around in his chair at the office all day.
Exactly. Unless his contract is literally says "we pay you for NOT being productive and NOT finishing stuff." there no excuse for it to take this long.

>>2018372
Yeah that's so lame
I think they don't want the game to actually be in a "finished" or "complete" state

This same issue is kind of going on with SCUM, it finally hit it's 1.0 release and after teasing about giving us access to fully mod the game they flat out lied and said they never had modding in mind, the game firmly dropped from a consistently 60k 24/7 playerbase to barely being able to keep 13k active now and they keep pushing garbage tier DLC that modders would clearly run rings around if given proper access, workshop privs, and nonshit in-game server browser.

>>2024672
In defense of TIS, an either-or system (I.E. everyone made a run on high-value targets like gunstores, or everyone holed up and stayed in their homes) would probably work pretty well, and it seems like they were going for that
Unfortunately, their implementation is pants on head retarded and doesn't actually do that

>>2024672
weird they changed it, I honestly feel like build 41 was quite honestly perfect when using mods

now the game is so fucking buggy and weird feeling and I don't think it will ever recover
>shit tier crafting now
>tons of new annoyances to slow down gameplay
>nerfs to old negative traits forcing you to be even more gimp when starting out
>adored old mods probably forever abandoned now since most people don't care for the game anymore

>>2024744
That's not how Zomboid's lore works though and if that were the case the zombies should be visibly loaded with supplies/guns.
In-lore, not that many people actually got turned into zombies until the airborne strain turbo-infected 95% of the world in a week.
>>2024773
B41 had issues as well, where you could wander into the middle of buttfuck nowhere and find a consistent spread of zombies for no reason.
Basically B42 redistributed all the 'random' zombies to hotspots. But this meant the police Station had like 3000 fucking zombies around it for no reason. So the update after that removed a load of zombies. Making a good chunk of the map completely zombie-free.
You know.
In your zombie survival game. Because they're too lazy to program roaming hordes.

>>2024782
sometimes I forget how horrifying zomboid lore is
Wish this game was full third person 3D and all tv show/radios were voice acted

>>2024792
>sometimes I forget how horrifying zomboid lore is
The lore isn't really horrifying, it's just retarded commie nihilist babble.
>Oh woe is me nothing in life matters! Everyone turned into zombies and you will be dead soon!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WANT TO SURVIVE!? IT SAYS THIS IS HOW YOU DIED NOT THIS IS HOW YOU THRIVED
You know their entire design ethos is flawed when most characters die of patch-induced incompatibility and glitches rather than actual deaths.

>>2024796
Well I was more talking about it from the POV of being a civilian in the zomboid universe.

Some invisible air born shit just turning everyone into rotting cannibals out of nowhere, millions of people getting insane fevers and sickness to just die and turn all at the same time.

>>2024810
It's more exciting than being a wagecuck for 60 years and then dying from cancer

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>>2024814
>randomly assumes every single person is working a miserable retard job
>thinks having a unbearable fever and nausea while every single person he loves around him experiences the same thing and dies turning into shambling corpses is exciting
lad wtf am I reading right now

>>2024816
>lad wtf am I reading right now
me projecting about living a shitty life and wanting a drastic change

>>2024821
I can understand that
I mean obviously if you were one of the asymptomatic survivors it could be fun in that sense.
But lonely as fuck if it's exactly like current zomboid where you're the only one.
I guess now it's canon that animals aren't infected so at least you could have a cool pet while driving around in your apoc suited vehicle loaded with guns to the roof

>>2024810
>Well I was more talking about it from the POV of being a civilian in the zomboid universe.
I can imagine a more horrifying scenario.
Imagine if the world was overtly controlled by ancient blood cultists who literally rape and consume children, and they also controlled all the finances, again overtly.
But they also made it illegal and taboo to talk shit about them so you have to work for 60 years for them, only for them to deny you any form of retirement as they raise it every year.
That'd be so scary IRL.

>>2024855
no, that's still not as scary as every single person you've ever known dying a horrible death within one week

>>2025033
>Zombies existing is scarier than IRL demons, satan worshipping blood drinkers and goblin-people walking amongst us in plain sight
Interesting,

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>>2024824
I like the idea of building a cozy nest in a secure place while the world goes to shit
that's what I do in most of my playthroughs, basically playing an apocalyptic version of The Sims where you need to steal all the furniture

>Guns are all but fucking worthless outside of arms-length ranges
>But anon your character is panicking, stressed, etc
YEAH
But they aren't fucking RETARDED
You line up the back and front sights, and pull the trigger.
A complete retard should be able to hit a shambling corpse head at 10 feet at least.

>>2025134
What do you expect from a bunch of noguns britcucks

>>2025134
guns were harder to use in 1993

>>2025134
would you grandmother be able to hit a target 10 feet away without missing?

>>2025191
We're assuming our relatively-young aged, potentially peak-human-strength/fittness characters are akin to a grandmother?
The fact the player can reload and fire guns without forgetting about the safety systems, or not knowing how to load a magazine or whatever, implies the characters have handled guns before.
Otherwise you should get a big fat 'you don't know how to use this lmao' message and have to read a book about firearms.

>>2025197
answer the question

>>2025200
Nigger she wouldn't know how to use a firearm let alone hit something 10 feet away.

>>2025197
The game treats the player as effectively an even more retarded retard than you can imagine. It's a miracle a zomboid character can walk and chew gum at the same time without choking.

>>2025201
>Nigger she wouldn't know how to use a firearm let alone hit something 10 feet away.
why not? You just said even a complete retard should be able to hit a moving target from 10 feet away
let's say you fully explained how to handle a gun to your granny, do you think she'd be able to hit a headshot on at least a stationary target?

>>2025134
The average kentuckian in 1993 had little to no formal training on firearms.

>>2025134
Imagine if someone made a third person 3D zomboid clone with npcs hahahaha
this game would die overnight

you would absorb the entire zomboid population easily very easy dosh if done properly.

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what am i missing here?

>>2025380
>what am i missing here?
A UI that doesn't bug out for no reason. Just try crafting it.

>>2025417
apparently you need 2 crucibles
fucking bitch really

>>2024773
>shit tier crafting now
We got fucking pottery and glassmaking, but no bows or crossbows. I hate commies so much it's unreal. Also a small detail, but I find it so retarded that you can't just get inside your tent, if you're not sleeping, you're forced to stand outside of it drooling. Why (because Lemmy is a lazy faggot I know) can't we get into the tent to protect ourselves from the elements, the cold and being seen by zeds? If only we had non-nigger developers, we could find a typical spot for animals to come drink or walk through, set up our tent and wait there for an animal to pass to shoot it by surprise from inside.

>>2025606
They added sitting animations but animations for laying down just aren't possible for another 3 years.

>>2025614
For a basic implementation you wouldn't even need animations. Just make the character disappear since they're "inside the tent" and disable zeds and animals being able to see you. Anyone who knows code could do it in 30 minutes top. It's legitimately insane how fucking braindead due to alcohol-poisoning and communism lemmy is.

>>2024855
A-Anon...

>>2025606
Which is hilarious because modders made literally RV's with interiors

>>2025614
same here modders added tons of emotes and options to lay down which also helped you rest.


honestly at this point I wonder if I should just go back to B41, I've had B42 installed for a year now I barely play but everytime I get the itch to play I end up quitting so fast because it feels janky and buggy compared to my old modded B41 games.

>>2026015
But have modders ever made tedious busy work that add nothing to the game beside pointless headaches and overall ruin the entire experience by being a permanent nerf without any benefit?
Didn't think so, sucker!

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>clear westpoint with all these bugs
>finally got the advanced forge, advanced kiln, advanced furnace with all those bullshit recipes and tools you need
>playtime 20 hours
>just need the blacksmith books
>i have to drive to muldraugh
>hit a traffic sign
>neck deep wound
>too slow to bandage
>die
fucking kill me bros this is bullshit i dont want to grind the fucking magazines and books again

>>2026442
At least a car-crash could actually kill you. Until very recently you could slit your throat while taking a brisk stroll through the woods, completely randomly.

>Game has exercise familiarity system where the more you work out a specific exercise you get better at it
>For some dumbfuck reason this mechanic isn't used anywhere else even though it would make a lot of the grind more tolerable
Almost every skill and activity should have a meter that you can fill up pretty quickly just by doing it, there's no fucking way that after running around for a solid couple of weeks you wouldn't be appreciably better at running.

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>some kurwa made a mod with multiples npcs that the original developers cannot do

why do you keep playing this game if it sucks so much?

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>>2026471
I don't

>>2026471
I barely play it because once you've played for a couple of IRL days, you've seen everything the game has to offer.
You know how in Oblivion or Skyrim or some dumb shit, you can play for a week and still find something vaguely interesting? Zomboid doesn't have that, deliberately, because they're retarded.

>Devs spend like 3 fucking years to revamp firearms from jerry-rigged long-range melee weapons with hit-chances, into actual ballistic simulation weapons
>Only to then not actually make ANY fucking progress in 3 years (which modders managed in 2 months), scrap the whole project and change the UI elements while pretending they changed how firearms work
>They are still just random hit-chance weapons based on arbitrary factors
HOW are they this fucking incompetent? If they're afraid of guns being OP, just limit the number of rounds or make them louder or some shit.

>>1999394
Which fucking retard in the development team didn't add any form of stale/rotten state to any fluids?
A can of soda remains pristine, even when it's been opened for a year.
MILK can be stored in a fucking clay pot in the blistering sun and remain fine forever.

>>2025304
>>2025197
Guns are designed to be intuitive. Particularly handguns. Anything that's double action, you can just pick up and pull the trigger. As long as there is a round in the chamber it will go bang.
Revolvers are about as retard proof as a can opener. Autoloaders less so, but any normal man living in Kentucky in 1993 would likely be familiar with a Colt 1911 or Beretta 92 as they were not only in use by the military but they were prolific in movies and television too.
You don't need to read a book, or even a manual, to know how to operate them. Insert magazine, rack the slide, pull the trigger. Even a caveman pulled out of a tar pit could eventually figure it out if given enough time.

>>2026515
why are you here

>>2026599
Look the average 90's American would not know what a firearm is. Okay?

>>2026546
In B41 milk could go stale and rotten.

>>2027222
Yep but B42 is the current version of the game, where it does not.

>>2027227
B42 is unstable, and i don't gonna give a fuck about it until it become stable. But the fact that they failed to transfer ability of milk to degrade between version is show how incompetent devs are.

>>2027235
>He fell for the commie dev psyop
B42 is the official new version of the game, they're just really fucking lazy and try to deflect all responsibility away from themselves.

>>2026968
Because I like to see people realize what a piece of shit this game actually is.

>>2018372
>takes down his mod
>stops all development
>says he is no longer able to continue work on the mod
Are you serious? I fucking hate it when people take their stuff down so nobody can use it anymore.

>>2024724
Would you really put it past lemmy though?

>>2026015
The only thing keeping me from going back to b41 is the lighting changes.
It's a better experience overall, the big mods for b42 all got b41 releases as well.

>>2026538
Could make it where if you fire a weapon it makes random zombies within your vicinity turn into sprinters for 15 minutes or something
it awakens their inner naruto

>>2027241
Fact. It's more fun to shit-talk the game than to play it at this point. B41 is nice but I already experienced everything there, and B42 is garbage. And it's not like it's long to catch up in the threads here, despite the manufactured hyper with thousands of jeet updoots on r*ddit, B42 is fucking dead, nobody cares about it and everyone gave up on it, either giving up on Zomboid for the time being or going back to B41. If B42 was the only possible playable build, the playerbase would fall to 10% of its current level.

>>2027290
Shame those are still shit. 5 tiles into a building in broad daylight is pitch darkness, same with closing basic CURTAINS, and flashlights have retardedly short batteries. Lemmy truly can't do anything right.

>>2027376
somehow it's still pulling 30-40k daily players

>>2027416
Yeah, because they're on B41 and the numbers remain stable because B41 is pretty good and the default version, plus there are hundreds of youtube channels praising the game for easy views and keeping very quiet about the B42 shitshow.

Again, if B42 was the only possible playable build, Lemmy would get so many comments rightfully criticizing him he'd finally kill himself.

It's out if you want to follow the page, personally gonna let it sit for at least a year and see if they're hacks of the magnitude of TIS
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1857950/VEIN/

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>>2027685
Honestly they get points for this if nothing else, having a consistently available demo with very few significant restrictions that even gets updated is basically unheard of these days

>>2027730
>>2027685
oh shid, they actually released into EA? looks very rough in terms of animations and all that but will definitely look at it again in a year. no doubt they will have made more progress than zomboid, thats for sure.

>>2027754
>no doubt they will have made more progress than zomboid, thats for sure.
truly delusional

NPC status?

>Use Cat's Eyes
>Outside no matter how close to midnight, can see just fine
>Go into a house in the middle of the day
>PITCH FUCKING BLACK
What the fuck is wrong with this game.

>>2027947
Pending until the end of existence along Star Citizen release.

Do the developers not understand that the level of protection to make you bite-proof is a LOT lower than the level of protection you would need to be knife/sword-proof?
Something like 1.5mm aluminum plate is light as shit but there's no way you could ever bite through it.
Why the fuck are the player-built suits of armor so fucking heavy!?

>>2028205
>Do the developers not understand
No, they don't. Doesn't matter what follows that statement the answer is still no.

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>>2027947
lol

>>2028243
>That one time they recorded a multiplayer server and pretended it was NPC's
Lol, lmao

>>2028265
This never happened btw

>>2028331
Ok lemmy

Does /vm/ have an active server or not?

>>2028413
Does b42 have multiplayer?

>>2027685
>plants take 2-3~ day to fully grow
Instant downer. Looking forward to modding tools to fix it, as otherwise it's feels great.

>>2028331
That literally happened. They "teased" NPCs, but it was fairly obvious from the footage it was just them playing in multi.

>>2028430
There's a mod on nexus that enables it, lemmy nuked it off steam because it came out like less than 2 weeks after b42 and it made them look bad.

>>2027898
>truly delusional
idk, the core gameplay loop is already there. far more advanced electronics system than zomboid already. all done by two guys in what, 5 years? meanwhile zomboid is 14 years in development, and still beta build for b42 for 3 whole years. probably another 3 years to completely finish b42. yeah, Vein devs are going to make more progress, no doubt about it.

>>2028265
>>That one time they recorded a multiplayer server and pretended it was NPC's
I was the first person to point this out. Kek, glad others recognized this too.

>>2028616
Which video is it?

>>2028265
>>2028826
You guys have this backwards I think, there were NPCs in one of the newer trailers (this is how I died maybe) that were strongly implied by the context to be MP gameplay, but MP hadn't been remade by that point yet on the anims build so they faked it.

That other, older proof-of-concept video with the soldiers and kate/baldspot couldn't have been MP fakery because the melee users would have actually gotten hurt by the zombies, the vid had zeds tracking but not attacking in order to keep them from instakilling the still-retarded and incompetent NPCs (by their own admission). It's more believable lemmy scripted each of those scenes one-by-one with ultratard NPCs over coordinating numerous people with controllers to mime fluid looking movement. Even this dipshit can get actors to move from coordinate to coordinate if really needed

>>2029392
Lemmy please get off 4chan and keep programming your game.

>>2029392
Based noticer
>>2029556
Debased anti-vaxxer