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>>2001747

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What took you so long

I tried to like Supercooling chamber for the m1k, and I feel that shit needs some changes. The extra focus shot damage lets you one shot like one more enemy (stingtail) KEK, can't even 1 shot spreaders or warders ffs, even on the max DMG build they still survive with a sliver of health. And for all the other enemies that already died on 1 focus shot to the weak point its worse because fucking -40% focus speed without moving, -6 mag lmao and -30 something ammo, bruh

How would you balance this shit?
I think it needs to have regular base ammo, and focus shot use 3 ammo like on the debuff OC, but also deal 300% DMG not 250%, or at least the weakspot multiplier be additive and not forcing you to take the weakspot mod always.

M1k base is just too good of a weapon

>>2002144
All they need to do to fix it is give it the extra damage it needs to secure breakpoints on H5P4. It's so fucking frustrating seeing Wardens and Patrol Bots survive with just a slither of HP left, it makes the OC feel like shit to use.

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I wasted my Impact Axes just to kill this screaming fucker for minerals

>>2003473
*aggros from the other side of the cave*
t. unpromoted scout

>>2003473
I don't bother with these cheating niggers unless I have a way to freeze them (maybe electrify em), if not, then even when I'm up its ass it still glitches away through terrain

>>2004364
>manage to keep up with it and shooting all the time
>fucker still despawns

>>2004213
Conductive Thermals DRAK/Jumbo Shell White Phosphorous Shell Boomstick Scunt: Hold my beard

>>2005376
>aggro the screamer with shotty
>run after it, get leeched and saved by goonner
>die to gravity
Thanks, scunt.

>crystal caves tapers into 20m long birth canal again and driller is as useless as ever
Fun.

>Critical Weakness
>cryo driller joins and fucks it all up
how retarded are these niggers holy fuck
thank god I usually kill big targets before they even finish freezing them lmao cucked

>>2008408
Driller in general is pretty cucked in CW.

>>2008813
It's the only modifier where subata is a justified pick.

>>2009518
>not using TRANQ like Karl intended

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>>2006987
Well, I got a grappling hook. What are you gonna do about it?
>gets eaten by a cave leech he didn't saw on the ceiling because he didn't lit the cave with his flare gun

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>>2009787
I swear to FUCKING GOD what is it with third worlders (Russians) and maining Scunt while never, ever, EVER having the combined brain power of ever exploring their keyboard and loadout past #3.

I've seen fuckers in silver promo go through a whole Length 3 mining mission without even so thinking of shooting a fucking flare.
Holy shit my burning hatred for Scunts could fuel a diesel engine atp

this stupid fucking piece of shit ue5 software keeps disabling all my mods

>>2010536
>muh precious cheaaats, gone foreveeer!
Good.

I guess every general has at least 1 resident schizo.

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>>2009905
Never play with Slavix (especially hohols or ruskies, they both suck), period

>>2010536
Use MINT
Also use the disablemodding flags on steam

>>2008408
>>2008813
>>2009518
>>2009783
I always play as Driller for the most of time on On-site Refining

>>2011406
I always cuck drillers on On-site Refining as other classes. Funny when my chad rollercoaster reaches the pump faster than their cucktunnel and they start to seethe.

>try out DRG Survivor again after being told that they "fixed everything and made it the best survivorlike ever"
>added +0.X% stat equip items (permabuffs)
>all of the inherent design problems are still the same
>nothing has been fixed
It's incredible how shit it is when the bar is so low.

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Managed to bring home a Tri-Jaw

>>2016329
>he don't bite

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The Lithophage meteorite nearly missed the lost equipment cache

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Most to least favorite Seasons?

>weekly assignments
>pick minerals
>first mission escort
>nope
>pick cores
>first mission escort
>nope

Guess I'm just skipping this weeks assignments.

>>2016727
Escort is far from the worst mission.

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>>2016727
YOU VILL HEAR DORETTA SCREAMING LIKE A DYING PAC-MAN AND YOU VILL BE HAPPY!
>>2016752
Failed this one in the Azure Weald not only because of my loadout but also because of these defense buff pillars

>Hating Escort
>When Refinery and Sabotage exist

>>2016753
>soloing escort as scunt
Got what your masochist ass deserved.

>>2016824
Refinery is the best mission althoughbeit.

>>2016835
Yeah it's so fun holding E on things for an hour and then shooting at bugs which don't even fight back because they're distracted by the pipes. It's so fun being stuck with some militant autist who demands the pipes be built a certain way otherwise they throw a shitfit. It's so fun playing the exact same three cave layouts, one of which is so preposterously big it needs an elaborate plascrete staircase for the pipes to reach. Really fun mission.

>>2017073
>Yeah it's so fun holding E on things for an hour
You're doing something wrong, it seems.
>It's so fun being stuck with some militant autist who demands the pipes be built a certain way otherwise they throw a shitfit
This is somewhat legit coplaint, but it's more due to some shitter hosting than problem with the mission itself. Shitter host will be bad times no matter the mission.
>It's so fun playing the exact same three cave layouts
Refinery mission has one of the least static room generation system due to how it mashes together rooms. That's why it so often has waves and waves of lootbugs. There are a couple of recognizable rooms if you play enough, but even those aren't as bad as PE.
>so preposterously big it needs an elaborate plascrete staircase for the pipes to reach
This is pure skill issue. Any map can be solved with a pickaxe and a bit of forethought.

What is everyone's thought about Massive Content Revise? I tried an Extermination mission with an annoying as fuck "Tier 10" mutator and got an overpowered BET-C variant. What can I supplement my horde shooter autism with when I have dried out the game?

>>2017253
>What can I supplement my horde shooter autism with when I have dried out the game?
40 nitra supply pods, of course

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The cocoon broke as the rock breakers finish cracking the Lithophage meteorite

>>2017094
>That's why it so often has waves and waves of lootbugs
No, that's something unique to refinery missions.
The rest of this post reeks of bait.

>>2017313
most any event that you complete has a burst at the end that's supposed to kill any bugs in a large radius so that you have a bit of breathing room to collect your rewards, but that also pops any boss eggs

>>2017242
Escort, Sabotage and Refinery are all glorified autoscrollers. They all involve waiting for progress bars to fill up with nothing you or your team can do to make them go faster. The difference is that in Refinery the bugs don't even fucking attack you because they focus the pipes, so there's no challenge.

Escort missions failing if you lose the Dozer is actually a good thing, the same way all Machine Events have a time limit. If shit hits the fan it's not fun to play musical chairs running around reviving everyone with zero ammo. The Core Stone and Sabotage hacker are proof of this.
Besides, the Dozer is a mobile LURE grenade with a shitload of health. If a mission has gone wrong enough for the Dozer's integrity to actually be a concern, you deserve to lose.

Also,
>the only mission type that has a failure condition besides you dying
What is Salvage Ops?

>>2017398
>No, that's something unique to refinery missions.
And the reason is the room generation. As I said. Read the post berfore making a fool of yourself. No wonder you find Refinery mission so challenging if reading a few sentences is too much.

>>2017445
>waiting for progress bars to fill up with nothing you or your team can do to make them go faster
You "wait" the 30 seconds or so by riding your epic rollercoaster, killing bugs and situating yourself so that you can get into the anticipiated breakpoints as fast as possible. How can you be so unbelievably shit at the game?

>>2017467
It has nothing to do with the room generation.
I'm NTA anyway.

>>2017242
You just described sabotage while complaining about escort besides the failing condition (which is a good thing btw, git gud)

Sabotage is by far the worst mission in the game. Takes fucking forever and is the hardest to complete with randoms because it has a build check. Escort allows you to do the most fun thing in this game which is click bugs.

I've seen NTP gunners on sabotage. Seriously fuck that mission.

Kursite Infection > Ebonite Mutation > Tritilyte Crystal (depending on the terrain) > Omen Modular Exterminator

>>2011686
What was wrong with it? Wasn't just a vampire survivors clone but with DRG motif?
Worth a pirate? (fuck them)

>>2018081
>What was wrong with it? Wasn't just a vampire survivors clone but with DRG motif?
that is what's wrong with it
it's a cheap copy of a more successful game made long after the hype for the genre died out, so there's no incentive for them to actually put dev time into fixing it up, because it makes no $$$, because there's no audience for it anymore

>>2017511
>lootbugs spawn with rooms
>"It has nothing to do with the room generatio!"
How are you this stupid?

>>2017471
Not as shit as someone who's favourite mode is the one where the bugs don't even fight back lmaaoooo

>>2018631
Who are you talking about?

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Was doing Elimination in Sandblasted Corridor as Goonner
Managed to pop a Bulk Detonator after I deal with the Dreadnoughts

>>2018689
Should have popped it on dreads tbqh

>>2018369
How are you? It's based on mission type, not "how the rooms are combined". It doesn't "dupe the number of lootbugs" because of how it "stacks the rooms on top of each other" you fucking retard. Morkite refining missions spawn a bunch of lootbugs because thematically there's tons of liquid morkite for them to feed on, it's quite literally not any deeper than that.

>>2019115
Rooms are based on the mission type, you drooling retard.

>>2019115
>Morkite refining missions spawn a bunch of lootbugs because thematically there's tons of liquid morkite for them to feed on
Actual cargo-cult behaviour. There's no mission based lootbug modifier. Escort has no lootbugs and the devs themselves don't know why.

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I always play as Scunt when playing on a mission with Haunted Cave warning

>>2019480
>>2019482
Concession accepted, I'm talking to a newfag moron.

@2020005
Not even worth a (You). Troll better.

>>2018081
Personally, when I compare it to others:
>too many weapons are way too similar to each other, very limited variety
>weapon upgrades are really fucking boring, just small +% stat boosts
>overclocks are boring as fuck with a very limited selection
>extremely limited selection of passive character upgrades
>extremely grindy compared to most other VS clones
>runs feel short and unsatisfying due to the forced leave
And honestly, I really fucking hate the artstyle. 3D doesn't work for these kinds of games, it looks incredibly retarded when bullets shoot out of a fully animated 3D character's crotch. Plus everything bouncing like jello when hit makes it feel like a mobile game.

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>3rd bronze scout joins

>>2021488
At least they're promoted, lucky you.

>>2021091
i just dont get why they didn't have the dwarf shoot a gun and strafe while BOSCOs fly around him shooting other weaponry

>>2021621
expecting nords to put in effort is akin to a hate crime

>>2021661
Work smart, not hard.

>>2021621
That's one of my problems, which is
THE AIMED WEAPONS ARE FUCKING ASS
It's things like this, the terrible variety, the lame mission structure, the "rarities", and other things, that shows they never did any research into their contemporaries. They just tried to take advantage of a popular genre that has a lot of strong contenders.
The only thing that DRG Survivor brings to the table? Deep Rock Galactic branding. It doesn't do anything interesting in a way that doesn't suck ass, and it doesn't take inspiration from its own competition. The fucking vtuber one does a better job, and it's FREE.

I want an option to force everyone who joins to play as a duplicate class. Becasue there's always one clown who will pick scout into 3 engies.

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The Detonator ghost spawned just in front of me in the main cave

>Thursday late afternoon
>Assignments have just refreshed, it's peak hours
>Load up the first mission of the weekly overtime assignment
>Sit in the lobby waiting for someone to join
>Wait
>Wait
>Wait
>No one joins after 5+ minutes
>Check the lobby browser for that specific mission
>See a mixture of partially/completely full lobbies, some in game, some not
>Keep waiting
>No one joins me
>Start mission anyway
>Someone immediately joins the moment the pod loads into the mission
>Within another minute 2 other guys have joined and the lobby is full

Genuinely why does this happen? Do people just not want to join lobbies that are still in the Space Rig or something?

>>2023549
>join lobby on rig
>host is afk or is wasting time in some other way

>>2023584
But I'm not afk.

>>2023746
I don't know that from the lobby listing. Joining a game that just started means there's zero time wasted.

>>2023846
You seriously can't spare 5 seconds to just enter a lobby and see if the host is AFK or not?

>>2023959
When I can just start the damn mission instead?

>>2024041
Sincerest apologies, Your Majesty, I had no idea your time was so important to you. Maybe you should just host your own games and start immediately if you're that impatient.

>>2024233
Listen, it's not that I never join a lobby that's on the rig, but I just explain why I (and I presume others) join missions in progress instead. Too many awkward experiences where the host just wanks in corner and doesn't even response to chat. During a mission that's not a problem, I can just mine, shoot and do the objectives.

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Minelayer System got

>>2025198
Sir? Your Rocket Barrage?

>>2025680
It's trash, don't bother

>>2024250
>>2023959
Me I sometimes select a mission then go about customizing my dwarf and often a guy will just join me at which point I rock and stone and enter the droppod immediately

>>2025198
Boring
Jet fuel better
Salvo funnier
Bees better too

10

Picking Rocket Barrage on the Hurricane is like going to an expensive gourmet dinner, being presented with a rich selection of delicious high-class entrees, and asking the chef to microwave you some chicken nuggets.

>>2025703
>It's fun! Always use it!
Fix'd

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Micro Flechettes got

>>2027330
Leadspray or go home

>>2027368
Already got that

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>3 greenbeards
>3 guard steeves

>>2023584
this
also some potato PC niggers like to submit others to their subhuman-tier loading times

>>2027300
How do those chicken nuggets taste?

>>2027573
>>2027098
>food analogy

>>2027596
>No argument

>>2027679
Correct. Food analogies are not arguments.

>>2028011
>I-it's not an argument... b-because I say so!!
Most intelligent RB user btw

>>2028058
Okay. I humor you. What is the supposed "argument" in this food analogy?

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Managed to complete a Deep Dive in under 45 minutes for the first time
>stage 1 is Morkite and black box
>stage 2 is alien egg and Morkite
>stage 3 is Dreadnought elimination and black box

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NEW HALLOWEEN EVENT SOON!!!!
YOU WON'T GUESS WHAT'S IN IT
I BET YOU 600000 GORILLION CREDITS YOU CANT TELL

>>2028685
Some year we get a halloween armour, r-right?

>order supply pod next to Corestone because it happens to be a good spot for one
>host panics, pisses, shits and kicks

PLEASE LET ME FILTER GREEN BEARD LOBBIES I BEG OF YOU

>>2029462
Not being able to see levels is such a hassle.

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Not gonna lie, I'm proud. I was the Scout btw.

>I'm proud
>6 velociraptors
:skull_emoji:

>>2030165
>six dinosaurs
>least kills
>highest level
>less than half the rez of gunner-chad

>>2030215
>>2030295
Seen the difficulty niggas?
Also that's pretty obvious the Scout won't get the most kills against NTP Gunner and the other classes. I also mined everything but I guess that's not important for you.
Yes I'm proud of doing a haz5+max + lethal, fuck you.

>>2030385
>Also that's pretty obvious the Scout won't get the most kills
Not with your skills lol

>>2030385
>Seen the difficulty niggas?
That still doesn't explain why you were licking the floor twice as many times as the gunner.

>>2030165
GunnerGODS as always carrying games

>>2030295
>>2030215
I hope the Velociraptor down counter icon mod got updated for Season 5 lmao

To be fair Haz5All is an incredibly shitty difficulty which actively makes Scout's life worse by buffing enemies which he's supposed to have good breakpoints on. It's the cheapest approach possible to making the game harder, just give everything +33% more health (at minimum) and double all the damage. They only did it to shut up people asking for Haz6.

Gunner is still the best class, though.

Scunt is good for speedrunning through assignments though

enemies being tankier does nothing to scout's survivability

>>2031689
I didn't say it affected his survivability, I said it affects his damage output. The M1K becomes completely worthless because it loses all its oneshots on enemies like Trijaws and Acidspitters, two enemy types he's supposed to excel against. Without his ability to deal with these kinds of enemies, Scout's usefulness drops off a cliff. His other options don't fare much better, asides from TEF and Electric Reload, and even then H5A doesn't provide the enemy density to allow those options to really work.

All classes are majorly impacted by H5A's blanket HP buffs but Scout has it the worst.

>>2031645
Good scouts aren't even worried about enemies, they're busy gathering minerals and finishing objectives. That being said only more bugs is a fun modifier. The game is too janky to support faster/stronger bugs because you can be one shotter through a thin enough wall or by a slasher that started its attack animation 10 feet from a cliff edge, and hp bloat is the gayest and most autistic way to "increase" difficulty and if I wanted to sit all day holding M1 on a bullet sponge until it had a random heart attack I'd go play some faggy MMO

>>2032358
Scout is involved in combat just as much as the other classes, the only difference is he has a more specialized target group. He's not a mining drone and claiming it's all he's good for is a complete disservice to what a good Scout can do for a team.
I agree with everything else you said though.

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>>2031645
hz5+ is great as a scout, nothing changes
unless the tankier bugs mod is active, then fuck that shit, as a m1k enjoyer I just don't join these as a scout.

>>2032358
Good scouts are worried about dangerous/disruptive enemies, like septic spreaders, stingtails, acid spitters, menaces, wardens... all which have sexy weakpoints you can delete with your max damage m1k in 1-2 focus shots

how 2 scout:
-press ctrl at random times to see where your teammates are so you can chuck a flare at them
-instadelete disruptive enemies as soon as they appear, specially enemies made specifically for scout (spreader, scalebramble)
that's it, you just do that while mining (and starting the mining from top to bottom, so others can mine at ground level), and stop mining to delete danger niggas

t.

>haz5
sitting back in chair, music in background
>haz 5 extra bugs
sitting up in chair, still music
>haz 5 extra bugs, extra aggression
sitting up in chair, turn down music, focus needed
>haz 5 extra bugs, extra aggression, more bug health
sitting up in chair, no music, focus needed, have to use specific builds <-- carrying ability stops here
>haz 5 extra bugs, extra aggression, more bug health, lower player health
sitting straight, no music, full focus, meta builds, need competent teammates

>>2032586
Also
>light the shit out of the cave with your flare gun so your greenbeard teammates can see shit and not be eaten by cave leech

Scout's jobs:

-get caught by leech and show their locations
-show pits by falling into them and getting downed

>>2032586
>unless the tankier bugs mod is active
That is explicitly what I'm referring to, yes. Though frankly I don't think any part of H5+ is well made.

Even the modifiers people generally agree as being "good" (More Enemies/Aggressive enemies) are just lazy stat increases on top of base Haz5 and don't realistically change how the game is played. There's still gigantic spaces of time where nothing happens and massive inconsistency between the spawns themselves. Sometimes the game rolls a wave that's like 3 grunts max and that's all you get for the next 2 minutes.

H5+'s customizability is also pathetic, especially compared to Custom Difficulty. You can't edit swarm intervals, random encounter density, special/disruptive/stationary enemy pools, damage resistances for specific enemy pools, veteran/elite encounter rates, etc.. You can't even increase the cap for enemy spawns above 90 because GSG haven't yet figured out they can release multiple versions of the same game depending on platform and don't need to keep making the game worse for the benefit of last-gen console hardware.

You can write a CD file within 10 minutes and have far more control over what/when enemies spawn, how many there are, and what they can do. You don't even have to worry about desync if you're using MINT either, really.

good thing 99% of players realize the though bugs modifier is lazy dumb shit and most lobbies max the other 3 and keep that shit disabled.

There should be a modifier where the bugs deal more damage against you but in return you deal more damage against them
Kill or Be Killed

>>2030215
>>2030295
>>2030485
Well I just noticed anon was playing on console so I can't blame him since I never touched a gamepad for this game, I can't imagine playing scout on controller, can gyro come in clutch?

>>2033241
>Heightened Senses
>Tunnel Rat

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>high diff egg hunt with legendaries including 2 star legendary engi host
>everyone else spreads out and starts doing their jobs
>host keeps dying to random shit and spams x when they do
>everyone constantly having to waste time running over to rez them
>pop egg swarm
>host goes down immediately without making any turrets or mines or shredders or fucking anything
>now typing REVIVE ME in chat while spamming x
>despite knowing reviving someone who goes down immediately at the start of a swarm is a waste of time I still be a good guy and grapple over to him and blow my FM on him
>scoot away
>host dies immediately again before I've even finished grappling away
>spamming REVIVE ME
>based Gunner on mic "stfu there's no point rezzing you in a swarm because you clearly aren't running breathing room even though you can't stay alive for 5 seconds dumbass"
>host kicks Gunner
>driller leaves
>so do I

I really wish there was a like/dislike feature in this game so you could know which players to avoid without having to waste time in mission to find out they're scrubs.

>haven’t played drg in months
Bros I’m regretting all the promotions I got. The expectations are too high as I’m very sure my skills have eroded.

I've only promoted each character once, I do not care about it

>>2034499
Play a few games in lower ranked hobbies until you get the muscle memory back. The game isn't hard.

>>2034412
>wasting a perkslot on heightened senses
more like listen for the leech's rubberband sound when entering new caves and watch your step

why do bronze niggers insist in joining/hosting hz5++ lobbies when they know they'll eat shit constantly?

>>2035145
they like being carried for easy afk xp

>join haz5+ lobby as driller
>wave starts
>shitter falls down a hole in a different cave system that everyone else is in
>WAAAAH SAVE ME DRILLERMAN
>nmp, shouldn't have died in a hole during a wave, kill the wave first and get him later
>rest of the team tries to save the shitter during a wave and they all die
>WAAAAAHHH DRILLER WHY DIDN'T YOU SAVE US
>still soloing the wave
>kicked for not kmsing for shitters

>>2035163
For real, shitters often can't read the situation and expect to get rezzed while the other dwarf is dodging spitters and spreaders while a bulk is barreling towards the team

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>>2028685
the new mask looks like shit, need more funny masks like the mission control one

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/548430/view/521980066604781467
stream in ~2 weeks

I don't give a fuck about Rogue Core.

What’s your favorite builds for each class? I’m getting bored of the usual builds I’m using.

>>2036897
Scout
>GK2 Overclocked Firing Mechanism BABAA
>Boomstick Compact Shells BACAB
>Cryonades
OFM is the highest non-conditional DPS increase GK2 can get and Battle Frenzy applies AISE's spread reduction just for getting a kill. If you're good at chaining kills together this build mogs anything else GK2 can do DPS wise. You can swap weakspot for AB to practice this build with.
Boomstick is just a good workhorse and Cryos are Scout's best nade.

Gunner
>Rotary Overdrive BAAAA
>Coilgun Mole BBBAA
>Leadbursters
Typical RO setup but with ammo instead of damage to maximize Aggressive Venting spam. Mole is your main source of single target DPS, use it at every opportunity. Between AV spam and coilgun fear nothing can ever touch you. Leadbursters are taken to kill Bulks.

Engineer
>LOK1 Executioner AAAAA
>Breach Cutter Inferno BABBB
>Shredders
Pound for pound, this is the highest damage loadouts in the game. Exec vs a burning+electrocuted enemy does 56.7 damage per bullet or 453.6 in a full burst, nothing else in the game even comes close to that without outside support. Breach is the best pairing for LOK1 in general, as the two work at close and long range respectively, and Breach can set shit on fire with Inferno. It's a match made in heaven.
Nade choice doesn't really matter but I take shredders to deal with enemies harassing teammates at a distance

Driller
>Sludge Pump Volatile Impact Mixture BABAB
>Wave Cooker Gamma Contamination BCAAB
>Neurotoxin or Axes
Good rough-and-tumble loadout which promotes aggressive play. Use charge shots to 1shot Mactera Spawn and Grunts, Slashers aren't 1shot but always die to puddles and DoT followups. Normal shot spam is good at range for wearing down enemy armor but you want to rely on charge shots mainly here. Gamma cleans up Swarmers quite nicely. Neurotoxin for area denial or Axes for bursting down HVTs, up to you.

>mfw the ultra firerate glitch on the leadstorm overdrive OC also works when changing to your secondary
lmao most OP shit in the game

>>2036897
gunner
max firerate big bertha + magic bullets
max area/area dmg carpet bomber + the mole

scout
max dmg mk1 minimal clips + jumbo shells/cryo-fire bolts
VEF + six shooter

engi
mpa + rj251
ecr + plascrete

driller
ice spear / snowball for macteras + mpsupply (with boyler ray)
the flamenwerfer oc that gives extra range for 20m range + epc tfc

>>2036897
Gunner
>Autocannon Mortar Rounds, 23223.
Somehow manages to be a combination of Big Bertha and Carpet Comber, does fantastic area damage and good direct damage too. Downsides are terrible accuracy and range, as well as low ammo. Upsides are massive damage and damage radius, as well as being incredibly fun to use.
>Coilgun Hellfire, 23212.
It's fucking great.

Engineer
>LOK ECR, 21111
Incredible trash clear potential and decent enough single target damage + huge range.
>Shard Overdrive Booster, 21223
Green overclock disguised as a red, has no downsides until you choose to interact with it. With a press of a button you can melt a praetorian from halfway across the cave. Switch to the extra burn upgrade and you can do the same to a nemesis.

Driller
>Crispr FSD, 22121
My sabotage/anti rival build, strictly speaking sticky fuel is more efficient, but this is more fun.
>EPC Energy rerouting 21222
Pound for pound best utility secondary in the game.

Scout
>M1K Hoverclock, 13211
I just like flying and with this I can be as reckless as I want and still not die to fall damage.
>Sawn off Special Powder, 11132
See above.

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Done

>>2037526
Mortar does no direct damage
Its just the area damage is so fucking high it even damages properly enemies resistant to explosive damage KEK
Yeah its very good, but its as disruptive as nukes because no one can see shit with the huge smoke vfx
I mod that shit out tho
Also most retards can't aim and do 999 team damage per second

>>2037773
How do I even unlock this task? The event hat quest didn't show up in the terminal

>>2001747
Newbab here, how long does it take to promote my dorfs and what do I gain for it? Game feel very samey after clearing the "tutorial" task

>>2037800
>what do I gain for it
Well...
>The ability to activate Machine Events
>Two new assignments
>Access to the OC forge
Also
>Access to Deep Dives, +1 active perk slot & honor badge for that class you've promoted

>>2037825
>Machine events
What are those? I encounter some rare enemies and objectives spawning in S1 and S4 maps, but I think they are different thingies?

>>2033241
>throw c4 on a massive nitra node because im too lazy to mine it
>'zippity!'

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The Bulk Detonator showed up after I called for the Drop Pod but I managed to pop it

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Just what I needed

>>2037872
Kek every time. Throw C4 in a proper place, count to 2 just to be sure, detonate.
>Scout is down!

Scout's jobs
- not use the flares
- munch grunts instead of hvts
- die on top of the fucking everest

Gunner's jobs
- use the shield only to revive
- get into the pod with all ziplines in stock
- maximize friendly fire with grenades

Engi's jobs
- fuck up the mission by killing the whole team with a proximity mod fatboy
- use the cheese gun only to make kaizo Mario levels

Driller's jobs
- give the bugs cover by using the piss fog nade
- microwave anyone next to him with the wonky hitbox
- take the mod that turns the c4 satchel into nitroglycerin for the lmaoflrz

Steeve's job
- get headpats under a supply pod landing spot

>>2038755
You forgot:
>Driller's jobs
>under absolutely no circumstances should he ever drill tunnels

>>2038836
Correct. Drillers should only ever drill down until they reach the heart of Hoxxes.

>>2037828
>What are those?
Special timed events that spawn randomly in maps (higher chance on higher complexity), successful completion grants you an overclock for a class of your choice.

>Throw explosive barrels at rock while enemies spawn
>Kill set amount of special enemies that only take melee damage
>Kill set amount of enemies that drop yellow glowing rock upon death that you must deposit before they expire
>Automated tower with three layers of weaponry that must be made periodically susceptible to damage by standing on a sensor plate

Ranked from least difficult to most, they aren't inherently difficult if you're not a shitter, but the average pubber might think so.

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>>2037150
Scunt
>GK2 Electrifying Reload ABBBA (BBBBB for Elimination) for crowd control
>Nishanka Trifork Volley BBABB (CBABB for Elimination) for HVT and Dreadnoughts
>Phero Canister (IFG for Elimination)
I've tried this build on a non-elite Deep Dive and Elimination (Haz 3)
Goonner
>Hurricane Minelayer ABBBC for clearing swarms
>BRT7 Lead Spray ACBCA for finishing Oppressor and Praetorian and other targets at close range
>Leadburster
Also one for Elimination
>Lead Storm CBABC for shredding through Dreadnought's armor
>Armskore Hellfire BCBBB for dealing with swarms
>Sticky Grenade for dealing with Hiveguard's weakpoints
Digga (Sabotage)
>CSRPR Fuel Stream Diffuser BBCCB for dealing with ceiling turrets
>Subata Automatic Fire CBAAA for dealing with Caretaker's vents and eyes
>C4 CBBB
>Impact Axe (YEET!)
Engie
>Warthog Pump Action AACAB
>Breach Cutter Lightweight Cases AAABB
>Sentry Gun ABAA
>LURE for luring bugs so I can clear them with Breach Cutter

>>2016833
Even worse it was fucking Haz 3 lmao

>>2039256
I meant to reply to this >>2036897

RIDDLE ME THIS
Krakuul's cock or Unkarr's balls

are players with 999 promotions cheated it or by today the game was out long enough to have autists like that?
had a gunner like this in my game who was taking two ammo supplies and never asked anyone before pressing a button, also his shield usage wasnt that of a highly experienced player, otherwise he was okay

>>2041581
Check the player level, but I'd say probably hacked. I'm like 2200+ hours in and I'm player level 1800 I think, and only play hz4-hz5

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uhh, how do you set ziplines like this

>>2041723
By cheating.

>>2041581
999 promotions and 25 levels (I'm assuming he cheated that as well) would require 315 million experience, and give over 8100 blue levels assuming he played nothing but gunner. If he played nothing but gunner for 25000 hours and did nothing but speed run double xp missions for those 25000 hours he would have managed the required 12600 xp per hour. In other words, no.

>>2041979
I have 51 legendary on all classes, so it's possible to get promos into legendary low hundreds if you were a class mainer but not much higher.

>He took a round of Rocky Mountain before a mission in Sandblasted Corridor

>>2043295
It works on rocks too dumbo
Those vertical rock pillars can be a pain

>>2043374
Oh I forget about that

>>2044506
>nooo muh ez mode crutch!

>He didn't took a round of Skullcrusher Ale or Slayer Stout before a mission with Ebonite Glyphids warning

>>2046107
That's such a rare warning

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BoM got
How good is it?

>>2046283
Used to be the king but now it's just... fine.

>its another episode of:
>stupid fucking digger thawing big bugs for le epic 200 damage instead of 3x damage over a long time
>stupid retards popping the detonator weakpoints with their weak-fast firing weapons instead of letting players with slow strong weapons use them
>digger using cryo in critical weakness modifiers missions
this game sometimes make me thing most people are fucking retarded

>>2046283
competes with AI engine for the best gk2 OC
you can easily apply status as scout, its gud

>>2046283
Some swear by it but personally find it a bit annoying to use. I choose AI engine and Electric reload more often.

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I should do a Deep Dive for more Matrix Cores

>>2046622
Excellent option for a mobility focused build, enables carefree use of grappling hook and special powder on sawn off. M1K is pretty good as is without having its output being boosted by an overclock, but you will be missing out on some really good damage OCs.

>>2047148
My scout is rank 35 and I use minimal clips most of the time kek
I wish hoverclock wasn't wonky as a client, I'd use it more.

>>2047221
>I wish hoverclock wasn't wonky as a client
How so? I use it most of the time, and I usually play on ping ranging from 70 to 250. Never had a real issue behind regular old lag when I start approaching 200.

>>2046305
A great OC. Its more like a green OC desu, very few downsides.

>>2047454
Yeah, by the point hoverclock stops being useful, movement in general is such an infuriating lagfest, you might as well disconnect.

>>2047557
desu there's a decent chunk of red and yellow OCs that feel more like greens. Dare I say, there's even a couple of greens that feel more like yellows.

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>>2048225
AISE is the most ridiculously mislabeled one imo. -1 damage -2 fire rate is absolutely not a downside when the rest is all positive that turns the assault rifle into a pinpoint accurate laser gun. It barely qualifies as a Balanced overclock nevermind going all the way up to Unstable.

>>2046391
>>2048715
>AI Stability Engine
inb4 anti-AI tard rage because it has "AI" in its name
>>2046396
I'm currently using Electrifying Reload for my Deep Dive/Elimination builds

it's incredible how shit rogue core looks from the outside
maybe it's fun but they are not doing a great job shilling it

>>2032795
the more damage is fucked

hosting 5x2 salvage
steam://joinlobby/548430/109775241517187297/76561198001958265
pass is rage if it asks

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The hacking pod landed inside the lost equipment cache

>>2049921
Seen that happen once.

>>2049229
The problem is: who the fuck wants another hallway shooter rogue like 3+ years past the peak of roguelike popularity? It's fucking boneheaded to be trying to make all these follow the leader years after their popularity has come and gone, doubly so when DRG is the lightning in a bottle they could milk for far more money than games no one asked for or wants.

Of course the base root of the problem is that DRG was an accidental success that was the result of the work of guys who aren't even at GSG anymore. The people left don't know what they're doing and don't understand why people like DRG in the first place, as evidenced by their biggest most recent additions of Stingtails and Stalkers and Spreaders, all 3 of which are terribly designed and don't fit into the game at all.

>>2048715
It's honestly not that good. Battle Frenzy will give you what AISE does just for scoring one kill (including Swarmers, which you can oneshot at base) whilst also increasing your movement speed. You can keep chaining those kills together to keep the effect active and then bring an OC which doesn't gimp your DPS for the privilege.

Not saying AISE is a bad pick but it's hugely overrated. BoM and OFM can easily outperform it in most scenarios.

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I got into the Rogue Core alpha and I've put about 10 hours into it so far. It's honestly not a bad game but so far it feels very un-special. There's nothing in it that doesn't feel like it couldn't have been done in DRG.

Having said that they've made multiple very stupid decisions which slow the game down for no reason. Taking fall damage immobilizes you for a half-second now, various helpful animation cancels have been "fixed", the Power Attack is significantly slower (it has like 10 extra frames of windup) and exploration is much more tedious without a dedicated Flare Gun user, forcing you to spam flares every 3 seconds.

Much like DRG the game is also missing a lot of tremendously basic QoL. It is mind-boggling to me that there's still no sprint by default option, or still no UI elements to track weapon heat. We do at least have actual numbers on the health and armour bars now, so I at least have hope they'll get their shit together and implement these very basic QoL features modders have had to put in the game for them (and better yet, backport them to DRG)

For what it's worth I do think the game has potential, it has a much stronger start compared to what DRG had, I say that as someone who's been playing since 2018. Animation quality and visual fidelity is already quite high. I hope this means GSG will carry it forward and make a good game instead of just resting on their laurels.

>>2051139
>no UI elements to track weapon heat
Who the fuck needs this?

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>>2051165
340,000 people need it, apparently. I would say that justifies its inclusion.

>Goggle Eyes mod is still not updated

>>2051222
>340k are retarded, everyone else must conform to their retardation!

>>2051231
Are you suggesting Rogue Core would be a better game with fewer features in it?

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>>2051238

>>2051231
thermal feedback loop, burning hell minigun and various EPC builds all have different heat cadences and targets, it's useful to have a heat gauge around your crosshair rather than a tiny one in the bottom corner of the screen.
If you disagree you're just telling on yourself for having one build that you play over and over

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>>2051231

>>2051139
I fucking hate that all abilities are a nesting doll of Q+E+R and a mouse click. It's inconsistent across classes and causes me to use skills on accident if I want to shoot or power attack immediately after I use one. I have reset myself on Retcon so many times trying to power attack after setting a savestate.

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looks legit

>>2051896
Given that they still abjectly refuse to add rebindable inputs for perks in DRG i imagine RC won't have them for character abilities either. Except RC is much more dependent on said abilities compared to perks, so it's going to be far more intolerable. The work will, of course, be passed on to modders.

Legitimately how the fuck are players so awful at getting to the drop pod on fucking refinery? It never, EVER fails that there is always one retard mincing about the platform when everyone else is already in the pod and waiting for them.

redsugar me on the Zhukov's
I'm tired of using the shotgun
I only used gas recycling before and it was alright

>>2055446
they're shit

>>2055446
Pretty much only use them with ICE OC with Thermal OC laserblaster.

>>2055446
They delete stuff, but run out of ammo even faster than an engineer with poor trigger discipline
Also their ammo count is incorrect, which exacerbates the issue

>>2055446
Terrible holdover from when alpha devs never bothered to make anything more than a meme

>>2055446
They are irredeemably terrible. Their gargantuan spread and spasticated recoil makes them unusuable at anything beyond point-blank range, and at that point you might as well just just Boomstick anyway. Especially since they have no utility or CC, unlike Boomstick which has ignition, stun, armour break, fear and penetration - often multiple at once.

Their singular worthwhile use case is Embedded Detonators to get rid of stationaries, but if you want to focus stationaries as Scout you should bring TEF Drak or Cryo Boltshark because those are good for more than just stationary killing. Embedded Dets runs out of ammo after about 5/6 stationary kills anyway.

>>2051139
Feels like they wanted to cash in on the roguelike hype that started in 2020, but got there too late because:
>Danes, like certain other brands of European, are highly allergic to work
>Timmy paid them to redo it on UE5

>Scout
4 different builds for. 2 for elimination (elemental/non-elemental, 1 m1k and 1 gk2. Only weapons used are Drak, M1k and boomstick.
>Driller
4 different builds. 1 cryo for elimination, 1 cryo for general use, 1 sticky fuel and 1 FSD. Only weapons used are Cryo cannon, CRSPR and EPC.
>Engineer
5 Different builds. RJ250 for shenanigans, nuke for escort with double bugs, dedicated sabotage build, generalist build with shard and generalist build with breech. Only weapons used are LOK with ECR for all builds, with build variety essentially decided by which secondary I use
>Gunner
Too many different builds, not enough slots. Every single primary is used, and 2/3 secondaries are used.
Conclusion: Gunner is the best class because he has the most build variety.

>>2056573
I'm smelling skillissueitis

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>tfw

>>2056573
Stop trying to make gunners look bad

>>2056512
Northern Europeans were once known for being exceptionally hard workers, while Meds were the lazy mongs always looking for an excuse to nap. What happened?

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>Bonus electric damage at cost of accuracy

>>2057749
>What happened?
Euro governments making it illegal to fire anybody without a ton of added legal bullshit.

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Ice Spear got
How good is it?

>>2057914
It's alright, the chargeup timing is weird but it fucks over big targets quite well

>>2057914
it's alright for elim but generally worse than snowball.

>>2057749
Work smart, not hard

>>2057935
>>2057949
Thanks
It was an OSR mission with Rockpox Corruptor, Rival Communications Router, and Tritilyte deposit

https://youtu.be/4XE7nCb2wCM?t=3405
>she
it's over

SEASON 6 COMING 2026 Q1!!!
WE'RE SO BACK LADS!!!

>>2058042
we been knew dis doe

>>2058042
At least they look like the males, so they got that one right. If they sound like the males (as they should) zoomercels will seethe.

>>2058063
they don't, there's a female VA

>>2058054
Also being developed by some other random team "Invisible Wall".

I keep going back and forth between the sludge pump and the flamethrower and I do not know which one I like more.

>>2058132
I really like hydrogen ion additive 32112 with explosive reload (subata) 11333

>>2058054
>new biome
>new enemies
>new mission
>probably some OC rebalances 2 weeks before launch
Neat.

There's a giant jaw sticking out of the ground in the new biome. A mature dreadnaught?

>>2058200
Bugs dont have bones.

>>2058202
Hoxxes bugs do

driller and gunner are the only dwarves with build diversity, you can combine any weapon and it's a guaranteed fun & effective build
for engineer anything outside explosive lok and cutter is a massive downgrade
for scout you're stuck with drak and cryo+phero boltshark, any other combination is utter shit

>>2058196
>flying armored swarmers
>floor cave leech that moves
I already hate them, add more.

>>2058213
>driller
>diversity
>shoot your primary then your secondary

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>>2058213
>for scout you're stuck with drak
>AISE doesn't exist
>BOM doesn't exist
>OFM doesn't exist
>Hipster doesn't exist
>Hoverclock, or hell, OCless M1K doesn't exist
>Active Stability doesn't exist
>Only the pozzed walmart waterpistol with 3-5 business days of projectile travel time, janky hitboxes and mediocre damage output exists
Play the game before you talk about it.

>>2058132
As a pump main I like spam that sludge like I’m using an M1000. My charged to spam ratio is prob 1:4.
>>2058090
I’m skeptical. Little big planet got some randos to do LBP3 and they fucked it up hard. Sounds like ghostship ran out of money for roguecore and decided to attract new players to drg proper with a new season. They did say they wouldn’t work on it at all until rogue was done so I guess they changed on that by having a second party develop it

>>2058314
thank you for conceding to cryo+phero boltshark being the only viable secondary

>>2057768
Most of the shooting as engineer is midrange anyways so it doesn’t matter. Scout and Gunner handle long range

>>2058314
>filtered by the DRAK of all things

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>no balance changes next season
how long do I have to wait for them to make the autocannon not suck cock

>>2058202
Yes, but they're alien spider ants with three body segments. Maybe it's a completely different creature.

>>2058207
Not sure if that's true or not

>>2058355
>autocannon suck
Carpet bomber? Big Bertha? Mortar rounds? NTP? The autocannon is great.

Ice Spear is fun on Sabotage
Being able to two shot Caretaker's eyes in Haz3 solo is good
>>2058042
Didn't they use Javier's dwarf voicelines as a placeholder for her

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>We made these new enemies
>And we made them fly
>And they became much more annoying
>But trust us thery're still fun to fight!
Where have i heard this one before...

>>2058514
All pure dogshit compared to hurricane or minigun. 20 years to reload, huge spread, no fire builds, worse single target than both guns. NTP is all it has going for it and it comes at the cost of being useless against any big bugs. Autocannon is a troll pick it's utter garbage.

>>2058665
>I refuse to do anything meaningful with my builds, I only have 1 gun ever and I've never unlocked born ready
if you want to tell us that you're bad at gunner just say so. AC works fucking fine in h5

>>2058681
>it's ok for it to be a straight downgrade from the other two options and unfun to use because vanilla drg doesnt go higher than game journalist difficulty

Personally i think that the autocannon must be played as less of a pure DPS weapon and more of a support tool. AoE armor stripping, decent fear procs, becoming a tank with the 50% (!) damage resistance which can last a fuckton of time by keeping the RoF low...all great options to keep some heat off your team
It's the gunner's sludge pump

>>2058766
>AoE armor stripping
iirc that's still broken and not very valuable to begin with on common bugs.
>decent fear procs
good but you're just delaying the problem instead of just dealing with it.
>becoming a tank with the 50% (!) damage resistance which can last a fuckton of time by keeping the RoF low
even if tanking was a legitimate strategy only 10 enemies can target you at once. there's no reason to do this when you can just avoid damage altogether with good movement and positioning.

>>2058054
Considering how shit their newer enemies have been and how boring newer missions are I don't have high hopes.

>>2058740
if you're just going to play a ridiculous mods like x69 bugs with 3 cost resupplies just rebalance whatever you want and fuck off.
no one thinks you're cool or interesting for doing things beyond h5 2222

>>2058804
guess we shouldn't ever make drillers grenades not dogshit either because lol drg is ez who cares changing a few numbers is too much work for gsg xdd

How badly is DRG roguecore going to fail?

>>2058854
I'm not a market analyst but I know for sure that I won't be buying it and I have 1.6k hours in regular DRG.

>>2057914
My generalist OC, minimal penalties that can be fixed with proper mods and its the only cryo cannon of that gives you a damaging ranged projectile. Does a lotsa damage too, got buffed recently to use less ammo as well.

>>2057949
Different use, snowball is mini cryonade on demand, rapes mactera warnings. More of a panic button.
Ice spear deals no freeze, only damage. deletes big targets, just make sure to freeze them first
Also snowball has an ammo penalty

>>2058042
So they bent the knee too?
Fucking rip
Well at least if they can't keep adding new stuff to DRG due spaghetti code at least they can't pozz it.

>>2058514
Still needs buffs
Its my fav gunner weapon but goddamn it needs buffs
I cope by using VWA, and even without the damage buffs as these only apply if the host is running vwa too, its great. Who could've though that a direct damage weapon sucks less when you can actually hit your fucking target. VWA big Bertha has even less ammo than vanilla kek, stills feels better to play.

Sadly that mod rapes most weapons, I wish there was a thunderhead standalone

>>2058569
>Sabotage
Filling up the heat meter on robot enemies (including turrets and nemesis) instantly kills them regardless of health, bringing a flamethrower built for heat gain is usually the best option for sabotage/rival warning missions.

>>2058963
>a flamethrower built for heat gain is usually the best option for sabotage/rival warning missions
the humble heavy hitter 12321 EPC:

>>2058957
>Different use
but it's good at the things driller wants to do. cryonade on demand hard counters mactera clouds which is incredibly valuable.
ice spear is a mediocre burst damage option which is easily outclassed by anything the other 3 classes can do

>Great Krakuul
>Mauloch's beard
>Unkarr's balls
Are the dwarves paganists or what?
>>2058963
Joke on you I use Burning Nightmare EPC with Ice Spear Cryo Cannon for my Driller Cryo Sabotage build
See >>2058991

>>2058854
DRG has sold over 8 million copies, even if RC sood tenth of that it wouod still probaly make its money back.

>>2058854
>spinoff of THE toxic positivity fanbase game
>failing
It's gonna sell a few million copies and the most negative thing you'll hear about it is "It's not my cup of tea but ROCK AND STONE!!!! XD!!!!"

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damn, you cunts are jaded
not even wowfags are that resentful towards their favorite game

>>2059582
you must not visit many generals

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Rocket Barrage got
Is it shit?

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>>2059623
I think it's fun even if not very ammo-damage efficient.
I mostly run barrage, overtuned and jet fuel. And sometimes take salvo and plasma for dreads and escort.

>>2059623
Its shit but it's fun to fuck around with. Its the bullet hell of the hurricane. So you will need to have your secondary to compensate.

>>2059623
>Doing DD at lvl 25
what a waste

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And for now...

>>2059648
dd's aren't even that good for xp

>>2059639
Like the Bulldog, BRT7, and Armskore?

>>2059980
Yeah, some people don't remember that they have a second gun and only switch to it when their primary is overheated or needs to reload, instead of finding situations where switching gets you better ammo efficiency.
Having to actually balance the use of your 2 firearms together is an ammo management skill that some people never develop and then complain that gunner is weak unless you use the biggest number OCs and mods for your primary

>>2059623
Who cares when it is FUN

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>>2001747
How do we feel about the new update dworfbros, are we rocking and stoning?

>>2057749
Smaller pop, smaller workforce, the nordics and dutch/danes are all about high skilled or high specific autistic people doing work when they feel like it. They stuff is good, can't deny, but they take ages to deliver anything now

>>2060085
HEY HEY PEOPLE

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>>2060085
>New biome that looks completely generic
>New enemies locked to said biome so you'll hardly ever see them
>New mission that's just cut content from the alpha they're regurgitating for the main game
>New seasonal event that's going to get spammed in every single fucking mission like they always are
>No perk tree rework
>No secondary weapon overclocks
>No balance changes
>No fixes or improvements to existing content
>But you know for certain there'll be new shitty cosmetic DLC for the paypigs to slobber over

Yeah, I'm thrilled.

>>2060093
>They stuff is good, can't deny
>*suspiciously helldivers 2 shaped malware on my platform of choice*

>>2060085
Yeah, I'm liking the shit they've shown.
Always thought that bioms should have more unique enemies like sandsharks and rollies.

>>2059049
DRG sold so well because it was an incredibly fun and unique game with good word of mouth and unique mechanics. Rogue Core has none of that.

>>2060927
Rogue core has the label DRG on it and that's enough for many.

Do we ever play drg in the same lobby? Anyone willing to host this weekend if so? I can play for the next 12 or so hours, same time tomorrow, unless you're hosting from China, Kazakh or Uzbek, these three countries give me really bad ping for some reason. If you'd like to join but don't want to host also let me know.

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Persistent Plasma got
I'm sure it is fun to use

>>2060085
Very mixed feelings.
I like the new biome, honestly. despite it being bland-looking, it has a certain charm to it.
The new enemies are interesting, and them being biome locked makes total sense, but it's still a shame we aren't getting anything for the rest of the world map like with spreaders/stingtails and stalkers.
The new mission looks very simple, and after getting 10fps from deep scan memory leaks, I think I might prefer it that way. That said, it's going to be an annoying addition to the mission pool if it's too long or if the cave generation is too retarded, so it's hard to judge it before the s6 beta.
Seasonal event... It was mentioned that you need to ignore the bone collector and follow it to its goon cave for the special resource, yes? If ignoring it means staying away from it and not shooting it, I have zero faith in public lobby players being able to exercise enough restraint to finish the event without being teamkilled and laying on the ground while someone less mentally retarded finishes it for them. If it's something more like prospector where you need to damage the bone collector to bait it into hiding in its den, I'm not against it. It's an excuse to see and fight the new enemies outside of their biome.
No OCs for secondaries is a kick in the balls, I was really looking forward to season 6 for this alone. No perk rework either, but I doubt it will ever happen at this point.
Lastly, this season's weapon framework is quite nice, I like the metal with wood furnishings aesthetic.

>>2061392
It's one of the best choices for TCF EPC, the plasma field does decent damage and applies slowdown to whatever is inside it. The damage penalties it brings don't apply to TCF blasts.

I need someone here with good Internet to host for me and my friends

>Start up DRG for some quick Egg Hunt
>Driller says "FUCK"

>>2061504
>>2061365
I can host if you're still here

>>2061877
This reminds me of how they removed all the depressed start up lines and replaced them with the usual quirk chungus dialogue

>>2062013
Sure, spool it up and send the server name/pass

>>2062218
steam://joinlobby/548430/109775242670053779/76561198001958265
rage

>>2062223
2/4

post lobby doe

>>2063642
why don't you do it?

>>2060119
>>2061394
all these new features aim at greenbeards to come back or to try the game.
It makes sense they prioritize them after a long break like that to populate the mines once more. Think about it, if you were a greenbeard would you care about such things as perk overhaul if you didn't even knew what these perks are or haven't even unlocked half of which? or would you care about stuff you know like new mission, new biome and new enemies along with, new events and new silly hats to unlock.
But its not all bad, they did say season 6 isn't the last one to come as some people here speculated so we still might get perk overhaul.

what's the complaint over enemies being part of the new biome? Do you just want them to be in the general pool and for this biome to have no identity of its own other than being a moody graveyard with lots of stalagtites/mites?
The game already has creatures that are exclusive to a singular biome (nayaka trawlers, q'ronar younglings, deeptora wasp nests, stabber vines, etc), enemies that have biome-specific variants (notably in Glacial Strata and REZ), and enemies that are restricted from the general pool outside of specific biomes (such as naedocyte shockers being exclusive to crystal caverns and dense biozone, or the silicate harvester being exclusive to dense biozone and REZ), plus there are places like azure weald that have a ton of non-hostile fauna which were all added alongside the biome itself.
Sounds more like whinging that a bullet point is getting top billing above the new mission type.

>>2063825
The Shockers are exclusive to Glacial Strata, not Crystalline Caverns
Also the Harvester is non-hostile lmao
Fire Praetorian and Cryo Exploder when?

>>2063830
I knew I should've done a second proofreading pass when I was double checking and correcting my spelling of the aliens.
in any case, they're just part of the biome. no one was shitting their pants over the new hostile stationary spawns being added when we got our hands on the hollow bough for the first time, there's no need to start doing that now.

>thunderhead carpet bomber 22223
>coilgun hellfire 23212
>leadbursters
I'm gonna top frag, 2nd most mining (cuck job anyway), most revives and zero raptors.

>>2063754
Every fucking update they put out caters to greenbeards because they're terrified of new players not being able to experience all the new content within an hour's worth of playtime. We've been waiting for a perk overhaul since Season 3 in 2022 and it still isn't here because they're more interested in dangling shiny objects in front of the playerbase rather than making meaningful changes to the core gameplay loop.
inb4
>I bet you'd just complain about the changes they make to perks anyway!

>>2063825
We're too late into the game's life cycle and recieving updates too infrequently for biome-exclusive enemies to be a good idea anymore. Do you expect anyone to be satisfied with waiting 1.5 years for an enemy that only shows up in a singular biome which may or may not even be accessible?
There is far more mileage to be gained out of an enemy which can spawn in all biomes, especially since we need to wait so long between updates.

>>2064685
Anon youre thinking about the enemies in too broad of applications. These aren't swarm staples in any way more than other stationary spawns like cave leeches, brood nexus, stabber vines, and wasp nests. The real meat of the swarm is grunts/praets/oppressors with a few dedicated population slots for disruptor type enemies, and with stationaries as a separate thing. Stationaries dont get respawned so they can't form the swarm's core ranks in any mission.
Plus they mentioned that they were considering a corresponding warning to accompany the new fuckers, they very well could leave this biome and infest the rest of hoxxes.
Maybe (you) feel let down by not getting another set of disruptive enemies like the stingtail, septic spreader, and stalker, but these 2 enemies shown dont come close to filling even a tangentially similar role.
Theres more overlap shown with the trawler (which is already biome locked) than anything else.
If anything the biome will get a lot of its identity from the high amount of stalagmites allowing bugs to descend from the ceiling in more places than just down the walls and pillars, something we only really otherwise see in crystal caverns and dense biozone if you leave large crystal structures/corals in tact. I think that'll be a lot more impactful to how the biome feels to play on.

>>2064685
They are afraid of people like you anon. Autists who will immediately go for the throat if they will make a mistake you don't like; and they will make a mistake cause such large overhaul will require a lot more work than new cosmetics, biome or events so them making a large mistake is inevitable.
I still remember when they nerfed the EPC mining and the amount of autistic screeching was so bad that I'm surprised they still listen to any players to this day.
Now imagine they changed or even removed born ready or even iron will in such overhaul, imagine how much backlash it would cause and lets be honest, they will change some of more popular perks to something people will not like at first.

>>2065372
Literally all they need to do for a "perk rework" is buff the useless ones ND maybe change the keybinds of some obnoxious ones. No one actually wants a core function of the classes to change, just make it so that there isn't a clear obvious best in slot, they've sorta been exploring that a bit in RC so maybe we could hope for some of that to be backported, but you sure as shit shouldn't expect an outsource team to be responsible for it.

>>2065092
I'm not saying the new bugs they showed off should be available in all swarms, I'm saying they should've taken the time to make even just a single new enemy that can spawn in all biomes. It's an objectively better use of development time at this point.
If the game was still getting regular updates then I agree more biome-specific enemies would be a cool addition but as it goes we've waited over a year and a half for enemies which will only show up in one out of twelve(!) biomes which just sucks no matter how you look at it.

>>2065372
I fully expect them to fuck up the perk rework. I know they'll make a lot of shitty decisions that make no sense and will likely damage the existing meta. But that's not the point. I want them to do it anyway because it would be more interesting than recent updates which focus on short-term incidental content rather than improvements to the game's core loops - improvements which have been needed for a long time.

Also the EPC mining nerf was done to appease screechers on Discord and R*ddit who thought that "sweaty chad Drillers" were ruining their heckin fun with EPC mining. Trust me, there were (and still are) far more people seething about TCF than there were people upset when it got nerfed.

>>2065611
We hardly ever got new core enemies, we literally didn't get any post-early access until the spreader, stalker, stingtail. And no, the event specific enemies (bots, pox, corespawn) don't count.
The fact that the cadence of adding new enemies is almost entirely in line with them adding a new biome is actually pretty normal.
Most of their enemy design focus is over in Rogue Core anyway, they probably designed them a long while ago and are letting glass wall do the actual work of implementing them.
Maybe we will get caustic mire afterward if S6 does well. Its a new partnership so we don't really have a basis to establish expectations on.

Does Hard Mixture actually affect Ice Spear's damage?

>>2065761
no, the spear does a fixed 350 with 150 in a small aoe

>>2065683
>We hardly ever got new core enemies
Yes that's exactly my point, this is a bad thing
>Maybe we will get caustic mire afterward if S6 does well.
I don't want future updates to DRG to just be a load of recycled cut content.

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they're going to add some sort of mini core-stone mutator like how rockpox got relegated to lithophage outbreak mutators, right?
maybe a single open rift hidden in the cave and special tools you call down to close it?

>>2066762
Perhaps, after Season 6 though

>>2066762
>>2066780
The one positive from this is that we might get some ambient corespawn that act like they did in the first teaser: they know you're there and will lurk in the shadows to ambush you

>>2066762
no, that would require doing additional work to introduce a new warning.
the robots and pox warnings were added alongside their content.
the fucking reclaimers in RC can't even close the individual rifts, they aren't going to have miners doing it.
the closest thing we'll get to RC content in DRG proper is if they make a mission type where we get to establish the dig sites that are going to be going dark.

>>2066801
So a Glyphid Stalker reskin or something else huh?

>>2067467
>no, that would require doing additional work to introduce a new warning
they added new warnings last update there's no indication that it's "too much work"
>the robots and pox warnings were added alongside their content
that's a much more definitive argument though
>the fucking reclaimers in RC can't even close the individual rifts, they aren't going to have miners doing it
k cool haven't really paid attention to RC so that's good lore info. No gadgets to close them but every core stone event we seal 3-4 rifts just by shooting it

>>2067599
The rift gate exists inside a deep core biome at the bottom of any typical reclaim mission. Your mission may start in a familiar biome but as you go deeper the stage generation is increasingly more like this deep biome.
Collapsing the gate is a hands-on experience that none of the miners ever go to the depths of. The reclaimers dont actually deal with corestones at any point
The core stone pillar in S5 can be extrapolated to be a sort of seed for spreading this deep core biome to infect and spread into the biomes above it. We can assume that the grayout was caused by mining teams that got overwhelmed by corespawn because they failed or neglected to subdue the corestone pillars spread.

>>2069409
>The core stone pillar in S5 can be extrapolated to be a sort of seed for spreading this deep core biome to infect and spread into the biomes above it. We can assume that the grayout was caused by mining teams that got overwhelmed by corespawn because they failed or neglected to subdue the corestone pillars spread
Devs could just have pockets of core-ruption where one rift is naturally open and collapses once the miners break the column, just like pox
formulaic but a clear path