Planetside 2 is having its 13 year anniversary, and dropping a long awaited Infiltrator rework that people have been begging for since launch.https://www.planetside2.com/patch-notes/nov-4-anniv-update-2025You like to shoot men in space, anon?
>>2042382>You like to shoot men in space, anon?I used to....
>>2042382Sometimes.
>>2042382It does continue to shock me that this game keeps crawling onwards at an ever slower pace but never quite stopping even with barely a couple of hundred people playing. I assume that some insane mismanagement happened years ago when PS2 was actually popular that caused it to be slowly throttled instead of getting an actual sequel
>>2043252>barely a couple of hundred people playingOff hour sure, but peak still hits around 600-800 on most days. BF6 ate a chunk of the playerbase lately but they always come back because theres nothing else like it.
>>2043252i am happy that PlanetSide 2 still runs on Windows 7, just with the recent added workaround with the sharing "major" steam-only updates from a windows 10 PC on the same LAN, because ALL the slop updates to windows number go up spyware recall copilot etcetera are not inspiring of joy to anyone but the bribery-and-threats class of "people".unconscionable business practices by Actually Indians Microsoft... oh no its "AIM" all over again.and it is not just broken toilet H1B telugu indians either, sadly.that would be too easy.
>>2043278You shouldn't even need the steam launcher for it, the game works standalone.
>>2043281i got the game via steam originally, thats the only reason.f2p for life too.updates for the sake of privacy nightmares do not inspire joy, i could go on and on about that.defensivecomputingchecklist.com is an ok page to read, to get started on the topic of life outside the ""social"" silos and slop algorithms.
>>2043302No I mean you don't even need steam to run Planetside 2 even if you installed it through steam, theres no checks for the launcher you can just run the launcher from the steam folder and it'll update by itself. The accounts are also not tied to steam so you can still download the standalone and use the same account.
>>2043365>No I mean you don't even need steam to run Planetside 2 even if you installed it through steam,I suspected that all along.In other news for the "Still Plays Great on Windows7 in 2025" list of games:"World of Tanks" and "War Thunder" and "Crossout" and "Discovery Freelancer" and "Soapbox Race World" and "Mechwarrior Living Legends" to name a few.Also "After Protocol" https://www.afterprotocol.com/ if you want hyper-esoteric RTS Space Sim circa 2008ish, but now open source.
>>2043252>some insane mismanagement happened years ago that caused it to be throttled instead of getting an actual sequelCorrect.
>>2042382So the Infiltration nerfs are good overall, but these new implants, particularly Sharing is Caring, are extremely busted. You can have a guy AFK across the continent and still get boosted shield from them, and they have the option of using Carapace to negate the penalty too. At least they didn't add that dumbass Martyrdom perk from PTR.
>>2042382So why should I ever play stalker or long-range sniper again? This update is forcing me to go SMG cloaker if I play infil at all.
Does this game even have large scale fights anymore?
>>2046413Yeah? Or is 96v96v96 not large scale enough for you? That's where the population counter stops going up at least.
>>2046426so the game isnt dead yet?
>>2046493Its been on this consistent off-hour on-hour struggle for years, its not going anywhere any time soon barring some extremely retarded decisions by the new devs. More players would be nice so I can play big fights at 3 am.
>>2046506Idk seems like a disaster. Heavy downward spiral in the past 3 yrs.
>>2046506>barring some extremely retarded decisions by the new devs.Like completely dismantling one of the most popular classes in the game?
>>2047073Their only mistake was not doing it 10 years ago.
>Bring back MAX revives.>Bring back jumpseat repair for Harasser and Valkyrie >Bring back better roadkills>Bring back sensitivity to friendly fire>New alert type that removes the lattice>Rework lattice system overall>Fix sound bug>Fix collision bugs
>>2047127And my only mistake was getting addicted to this game more than 10 years ago. But thankfully this new update solves this problem. All good things must come to an end after all.
>>2047401it will take them 2 years to accomplish this when they have 1 programmer/dev currently working on the game. given the way the population is declining, it wont be around in 2 yrs.
the alpha build of this game was a masterpiece and every change since then has been a total disaster. I was there at sony HQ playing it on site. MAX units used to be able to charge forward and crush enemies like a vehicle could. Anyone could stand on any vehicle. there were so many changes made that this game shouldnt even be called planetside 2
>>2047401>Bring back MAX revives.>Bring back jumpseat repair for Harasser and ValkyrieThese are fucking cancer, no thanks
>>2047633did the alpha version have more permanent build-up features? biggest problem with PS2 is that nothing lasts for more than a few hours. you flip a zone and then it resets 4 hours later. everything you did earlier in the day is erased besides kill/deaths. it's just a glorified deathmatch game except more drawn out and more players (not anymore since population is dead)
if you unironically still play this game and arent abusing the suicide drones to make people mad why even bother logging in?
>>2047591smedley is coming back, planetside 3 2027
>>2048518No chance in hell they're already working on some dogshit modernslop extraction shooter. It's truly over.
>>2048533not even. they're going to make it happen. it will be a while longer, but it will happen. the new game "reaper actual" or something is likely just a practice run to get a team together at the new studio. planetside 3 or another game in the franchise will be in the works eventually.
>>2046509>we used to have over 6,000 players every day a mere three years ago>now we're below 2,000>July 2025: -25% of the entire pop in one monthDamn... it really is over, isn't it. The mergers were supposed to bring us back, yet here we are and now it's worse than ever before.It's sad, because I genuinely love this genre (a persistent massive FPS with territory control over several continents) but unless you like Foxhole, there's fuck all for you to choose from.
>>2046195>why should I play a long-range sniper ever again?The guns still kill in one shot to the head. You're just not constantly invisible anymore.SMG Infils and Stalker Infils died for the sins of CQC and mountain-perched one-shot kill sniperfags. Now if you want to run SMGs, you play Medic or Heavy, which defeats the whole fucking point of being a fast dick-ass thief type.The current company in charge can't code for shit either, they gutted Infil sure but it was so hamfisted that way too much got destroyed in the process. Adding a gimmick drone ain't gonna hide how poorly the decloak nerf was.
>>2048594>Stalker Infils diedGood. They should've never existed in the first place.
>>2042382All I wanted is for infils to be able to hack vehicles like they could in PS1. That would've been a fair trade for the nerf.
>>2048590It really isn't persistent. The map resets every 5 or 6 hours. It's a glorified deathmatch. The only nice thing was the massive battles, but the game's too dead to field those much anymore.
>>2049348>cloak over to sundy>jump on top/crouch under middle>instantly cuck their spawn faster, easier, and cheaper than a C4 fairy or allahu ackbar engineer couldlmao
>>2049392yet more proof that every base should have had at least one indestructible tower spawn pointyou know, LIKE THE ORIGINAL HADTHE FORMULA WAS RIGHT THERE, SMEDLEY.
>>2049469well, you could destroy the spawn tubes, but faggotry like that was policed in the original planetside for the most part, don't know if it could be done like that today. planetside 1 was just a way better designed game. base design meant you had to get off your ass and play infantry, there was no shelling spawn rooms like in ps2 but at the same time there weren't all these irrelevant micro bases so you needed armor to push the front line and defend your ams
a couple of filters, and it looks just as good, if not better than other space shootans I've played
>removed anti cheat>public cheats everywhere nowwhy are you still around? it's over
one must imagine Sisyphus happy
will the double exp 2 week event bring back enough players so the game doesnt feel as dead?
>>2054264>they gutted the infil>the only original and innovative class this game offers>but hey x2 xpnah bro, it's over
>>2054344>invisible sniper is the only original and innovative classJust going to pretend the four Light Assaults and MAXes don't exist, I see
>>2054344as a vehicle main, nerfing infi has definitely interested me in coming back
>>2054345those exist in other games ad infinitum.the only innovative light assault variant is the skirmisher jumpjets. wrel nailed it on that one. THEN THIS FUCKING RETARDS HAD TO COME ALONG AND REMOVE THE JUMP RESET ON KILL. FUCKING CLUELESS TOURISTS MAN
>>2054351ooga booga I sit in in mountainside for hoursHOW DARE THIS FUCKING INVISIBLE CUNT KILL ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DEAD GAME!! DEAD GAME!!no, its the infils who kill the game, not me shelling a spawn over and over
Why do we need 2x XP in a game that won't be here in two years?
>>2054363cry about it>>2054364why would it get shut down when they own the license?
>>2054363You were both doing the exact same shit, don't act like hill snipers were somehow better than hesh TaRds
>>2054368the difference is locked-down prowler HESH is the closest this game has to artillery (excluding orbital strikes) whereas hill snipers are just tacticool faggots who dont contribute to the game at all and treat it like CoD
>>2054371Locked down HESH costs nanites, gets raped in the ass by ESFs and LAs, takes time to get into position, is at no point in time invisibleInfil on a perch with a cloaked Sundy hidden who knows where will never go away no matter how many times you counter-snipe themOne is cheese that feeds into the metagame ecosystem, the other is just a permanent nuisance that contributes nothing positive to the game whatsoeverMoreover, they did actually nerf the fuck out of HESH nearly a decade ago, but it took this long for Infils to finally get more than a slap on the wristBetter late than never, I guess....
>>2054366I'd say I just unistalled, but I'd be lying if I told you the real reason was other than rampant chinese hackers raping the game. that and clueless devs who can do nothing about it.
>>2054383>Locked down HESH costs nanites, gets raped in the ass by ESFs and LAsThe nanite cost isn't a problem if you can pull one and live for 10+ minutesESFs and LAs can't get you if you're playing with inf around you as backup and not just by yourself
>>2054351How the hell do you die to an infil as a vehicle main
>>2054859tank mines, c4? they have stealth retard
>>2054878Ah, so you don't play the game. Were you feeding complaints into chatgpt or something?
>light assault and medic are the only actual broken classes in the game>the shitters whine about infiltrator and and heavy assaultit really is hilarious how bad and clueless the planetside 2 player base always was and never changed. it's literally just a core of genuine pant shitting autismos that think some subhuman chuckin revive grenades mindlessly is healthy game play
>>2055088>light assault is more broken than heavylmao what
>>2055094heavy isn't broken, it follows the rules of the game, it follows the flow of battle, nevermind wall climbing glitches. light assault doesn't have to follow the flow of the battle, it can circumvent anything, it can destroy anything. if battles weren't so large light assault would easily be the best pick. heavy assault is only preferred because it allows you to stand up against the masses of shitters. the lmg sucks cock
>>2055100And how does this tie in to medic>the lmg sucks cockAh, a VS player.
>>2055106because medics have the best guns in the game if you're not a shitter and can shoot heads, medics can tank shots like a heavy shield with the right build, but the most broken part of medic which ruined the game is the revive grenade spam
>>2055115So engineers are not broken because?...
>>2055117they are with the addition of spitfire cancer that makes flanking shitters harder to do. planetside 2 made it so you don't even need to watch the middle of your screen to play the game. just watch the radar because planetside 2 has legal radar hacks in multiple forms and have your spitfires on your flanks alerting you if anyone does get bythis cringe game can't die fast enough
>>2055127So infils, medics, light assaults, and engineers are all broken OP classes that don't belong in the game.Interesting.
>>2055131this is the intelligence level of your average planetside 2 player. engineers shouldn't have spitfires, medics shouldn't have revive grenades and light assault jet packs shouldn't exist
>>2055136You curiously left out Infiltrator in your rant despite complaining about radar hacks.So what are you, a heavy sweat who can't look up, or an infilnig that refuses to equip sensor shield?
>>2055140i can dunk on your outfit with any class, clown. you're just bad you will always be bad. you killed planetside 2
>>2055160So you're so skilled on all the classes that none of them pose a problem to you at all?
>>2055136>engineers shouldn't have spitfires, medics shouldn't have revive grenadesCorrect. The game would be better if both were gone.
>>2042382Post those NC webms.You know the ones.
The year is 2025.Shitters still don't know how to play the game, blame every other class except the class they play.Fascinating.
you shouldn't be here bragging about muh class oppressionyou should be out there, making certs
>>2054878>infil>tank mines, c4?
>>2057350ironically, the first weapon of a retard is to call their opponent a retard. pottery in action.
>2x exp event>population doesnt even budgeit's unsalvageable isn't it?
>>2058352The merge into Connery quite literally killed US servers as a whole. No one wants to play on fucking Connery. Bastards probably did it for when they kill SolTech and send all the Aussies over.
>>2058352I dont think most people need certs, which is the only point of exp.>>2058583They really fucking cheaped out with the server merge. They definitely threw out the more expensive ones and sold it and used the cheap ass dogshit connery ones.
based game lets go terran republic!
>>2058352>2exp event>that was advertised like 2 weeks ago>instead of just making the whole 2 weeks 2xpI genuinely like the game, but the devs clearly treat their audience like absolute retards
>>2047633this game was always trash and should have never been called planetside as it was nothing like planetside. it was always a glorified battlefield clone for kids that never played battlefield before bad company. ps2 has always been a heaping pile of shit with the worst base design i've ever seen with limited to no overall strategy unlike planetside
Community BASTION SMASH event is starting in 15 minutes on Emera- I mean Osprey
>>2062187
Last night was a lot of fun, there was a lot of activity. Tonight it's dead. Game just isn't fun without the constant huge epic battles. Furthermore, this "Alert" mechanic has totally fucked over the game. It encourages people to ghostcap which is boring. No longer 3 hour long epic battles for The Crown or Biolabs etc since an alert occurs within 5 mins of unlocking a new continent, and its always the same alert type.
>>2063579Alerts are just a match timer under a different name, with rewards handed out at the end. It's kind of ass, but objective-brained players like it. You can still camp e.g. Nason's for two hours and ignore everything else if that's what you like. Unfortunately, Crown hell grinders have been dead for several years now, between lattice changes and the base layout being butchered to oblivion.
>>2063611>you can still xYes but the players aren't there doing it anymore except in small numbers. I think this new alert system filtered out all the people who play PS2 for big battles and now you've just got the "objective-brained" players representing the majority
>>2062263>DXVKdid you see improved performance using that?
>>2063623......yes.That's what happened after 13 years of them deliberately sabotaging endless unbreakable base fights.
>>2063778I can't really give an honest performance comparison because i'm running on linux with better hardware but technically its better performance than I had on windows 7.
>>2062263jesus bro turn on framegen and turn the shadows back on. looks like a ps2 game
>>2065091>turn on framegen
>turn on input lag otherwise 4k looks sooooo bad without it, why aren't you using ai frame smearing??? are you dumb?????The absolute state of "gaming"
>>2065238>I don't want 50 extra FPS for free with almost no difference>>2065241the input lag is something like 1-3ms, you can't notice it. post username and we can compare K/Ds as someone who exclusively uses DLSS performance.>ai is le bad because... it just is okay!!reactionary luddite. sad!
>"I can get a better KDR than you with input lag!"ok.
>>2065279no argument + you made it obvious you're a sub 5 k/d shitteranother win for me
best shooter I ever played, I hope a big company would buy the IP and make the third game
>spawn a heavy tank>someone jumps in>we get into combat>things get rough, jump out to repair>gunner doesn't help, just stays on the turret>tank blows up because my lone repairing wasn't sufficient>gunner gets out right before it blows>he's an infiltrator/light assault/heavyI've just started teamkilling these people. fucking free riders
Anyone else notice that VS/NC on Wainwright constantly team up to 2v1 TR during alerts? Even when TR has the lowest population and territory. It's bizarre. Been happening all week
>tfw you get so good at the game people start making alts so they can follow you around and try to teamkill you
>>2065091>>206526990fps while I had my global render limit maxed to try and see the ball of reavers sooner isn't that bad when I normally sit at 144 as infantry. Hell even the post-explosion wipeout was 120fps in the screenshot above it.>Just fuck up input lag globally in a latency-sensitive pvp shooter so you don't have niche scenarios where your framerate drops a little where it doesn't even matter!Fucking zoomers I swear to god, you're the reason modern gaming is such a shithole.
>>2065770>1-3ms of input lag makes a differenceWanna know how I know you're a sub 2 KD lil zoom?
>>2065797What if I could just not have extra input lag with no downsides?
>>2065805>game looks like shit
>>2065814I have my graphics settings turned down as an aesthetic and visibility choice.>Foliage off, for obvious reasons>Antialiasing is off because its 2025, AA doesn't affect framerate. I just actually unironically enjoy the jaggies>Shadows off, Lighting low because 90% of my time is spent in infravision>Neither of those matter in a vehicle as well>Model, and texture quality on high because that's an actual visual choice I like>"Graphics" quality set to low because it disables the warping effect of shield entities so you can see through them clearly.My game will look "like shit" no matter what because I live in infravision. I'm optimizing my infravision ability because the Lighting and general Quality setting change infra's brightness and highlighting ability in this jank ass engine.Either way, you made me log in and go to Waterson's to take a screenshot for you still comfortably around 120fps mid fight
>>2065091>ps2 looks like ps2 it only makes sense
Placing anti-vehicle mines right in front of the vehicle spawn pad, at a spawn point 2 regions from the front, is griefing. Change my mind
>>2066617complaining about it only means it works though
>>2065839>its 2025, AA doesn't affect frameratePS2's anti-aliasing options are ancient
>>2066764It doesn't "work" - the person just respawns 10s later with another tank, and the sub 2 KD shitter who laid the mines still has a 1.12 KD.
>>2066821Potentially deleting 200-450 nanites from someone and forcing them to repull and waste more while you've already long since regen'd yours is good. Especially if they're trying to pull an MBT and literally can't anymore after the first instant kill.Not everything in this game is about kdr, retard. Otherwise vehicles wouldn't exist at all because they're the slowest option for stacking kills.
>>2067578You appear not to have read my post - a spawn point 2 regions from the front. The amount of time it takes to actually get to the spot on foot is greater than the amount of time it takes for the person to regen those 200-450 nanites.>b-but they can just fly there or take a harrasser!so now they're wasting nanites themselves. curious
>>2068865You appear to not have read mine either, you're potentially removing an MBT from his farming spot pre-emptively and forcing him to sit on his thumb and diddle himself for a couple minutes while he regens nanites.Or it was an infil pulling a flash who knows, still worth it to piss off an infil. Either way KDR doesn't matter when nasons, biolabs, and medics exist.
>>2068865If they're like me, they're just driving around cortium farming. I'll make a quick stop to mine enemy vehicle pads if I happen to come across one, then continue my merry way. >>2069628>Either way KDR doesn't matterBy itself in a vacuum it's not very useful, but thankfully stat tracking sites have a lot more info than just kdr. As a whole, all those stats paint a pretty decent picture of what kind of player someone is. A heavy might have superficially good stats at first glance, but when you look at his most used weaponry and find a bunch of explosive shit, that's when you know it's probably some shitter who just sits in Nasons or whatever 96+ shitfest and lobs grenades and Thumper rounds the whole time. Similar for an Infil who has a 10kd, but then a 0.1kpm; he's either some mountain camper taking potshots at people from across the hex, or a stalker who roleplays as a cctv camera waiting for someone to stop right in front of him so that he can finally get a kill.
>>2047633Almost all good games die in the transition from Alpha to Beta. It's when marketing gremlins etc get involved and ask myopic, loaded questions "How does this sell MTX?" "Can we change that so it appeals to a broader audience?" "I don't understand it/that looks awfully difficult, can we change that?".>>2047850Yeah, the base design was truely terrible and incentivized all the playstyles and provoked all the situations that caused the greatest rifts between communities. The monetization has also been predatory, especially in the second year. They could have prevented the decline by defusing stalemates and zergs with a proper rework of the bases.
>>2048590>FoxholeIsometric FPS are abominations.
>>2054371>>2054383I recall sitting on a rocky ledge opppsite to that one base that's located at the border to the desert. NCtards tried taking it, running up the slope. I farmed kills for several hours, shelling them from behind. Needless to say I didn't kill the Sunderers parked around corners.
>>2070940Just looked at a map to find the spot. It was on Indar, I am inclined to say the Crown, but I don't quite recognize the place. Did they rework the bases and maps? Anyways, I am sure that I am one of the people responsible for the initial HESH nerf in the first year after launch. I've made 90% of my kills in my ~3yr playtime within a month of camping on that spot.
>>2070900No, it's really good because it rewards situational awareness and planning instead of twitchy ADHD clicking.
planetmans 2026 and beyond:>new alert type "broken lattice">new rare implant for engineer: jumpseat repair>new rare implant for medic: max revive>bring back regular oshur rotation and mirror bay>bring back rewards for winning alert (free items like camo, cosmetics, weapons, etc)thoughts?
Planetmans 3 soon
>>2072844Hopefully never. I only play PS2 out of spite, like hate-fucking the same people online over and over. 12 years of this isn't healthy, I don't need a sequel.
>>2072844But why when we have 2.
>hmm nerfing fun doesnt seem to bring back players for the past 10 years>I know lets keep nerfing fun!Yeah glad I left this pile of shit behind years ago.
any predictions on when or what the game's final hurrah will be?
>>2089620Probably 2030, whenever EG7 decides it's not worth paying Astropto to renew the IP
>>2089625five more years? that's generous of you, anon.
>>2048590>Foxholefoxhole is the gaming equivalent of putting your dick in acid, I have no idea how someone could like it
>>2066617>13 (THIRTEEN) YEARS later>shitters still complain about the most predictable mine spotLMAOOOOOOO game deserved its fate with this kind of community, what a shitshow.The entire cycle of shitters complaining -> SOE/DBG gutting has been the bane of this game.
