These new German cruisers are pretty fun. How are you enjoying them?
I don't play loser nations.
dead game
>>2049417Weren't ~10% drop chance containers for a T8/9 ship the big santas from previous years?
>>2049936No.
I've been playing nothing but Knesebeck for the past 3 days. I even like it more than the tier 10 simply because it looks better.
>>2042888>Fantasy Paper Gacha Ship GameNo.
I'm getting Aki, wotabout youse goys?
>>2053299Probably Valpa, although I'm still considering dropping all of my voyage tokens into a Rhode Island instead.
>>2053809Understandable but I already get bored playing pan-america BBs, I think valpa is just too training wheels to be enjoyable. Personally I feel Rhode Island is wildly overrated. It's not bad, but I don't think its worth the huge price tag.
>>2053970>too training wheelsWhile I'll admit it's a zero skill ship I want something that I can run down and still maintain my 60% WR, gotta play the braindead broken shit if you want to carry these teamsI mean what else would I buy, the super Hinden or the super Atlanta? I'm not buying Aki since I already have some Japanese BBs and I refuse to play hybrids on principle.
Can you use a free tier 9 ship that they will give you to get research points?
>>2053978I aint judging, I'm just past the point of caring when it's usually down to how retarded my DDs are whether we win or lose. If I wanted to pad WR I'd just play DD all day. I'm more interested in fun and valp looks boring. Enjoy though.>>2054015Like research the tier 10 following it? Yes.
>>2054038I mean research bureau points for a reset line.
>>2054039Uh, if you reset that line beforehand? I assume so.
>>2054015You can reset the line, but you will only get RP for the Tier 9 and 10 if you used the T9 to skip grinding the line.
any of the black friday sale ships worth picking up?
>>2054612I think the deals are pretty mediocre unless you stumble on one of the discount coupons.
I don't get the event. If I get a B clone of a ship I already had, but got it outside of the blac kfriday event, I don't get the pair mission?
>>2056149It's retarded anyway. Why would you want a copy of a premium you already have?
>germanheil
*bombs u*
>>2058098Great, just great. This is exactly what this game needs.
>>2058098Can this thing cit light cruisers with that pen?
>>2058205I think HE needs the cit right below it since it can't go through multiple layers of armor.
>>2060589Hmm, so can't hit superstructure, can't hit turret roof. Do most cruisers have any more armor between the deck and the citadel roof? Guess I'd have to go look in the armor viewer.
>>2060762>do most cruisers have armor between the deck and cit roofYes, almost all of them do. You need the citadel to extend all the way up to the deck to not have that, and very few cruisers have citadels that large. In terms of cruisers that actually get deck cit - there are a few at low tiers that eat HE cits from regular caliber (152+) guns but I can't think of many if any cruisers that would eat HE pens through their decks in the tier 10 MM spread. I'm pretty sure even the really bad ones like Minotaur don't have deck level citadels.
So uh, mostly off-topic question, but who is Carnot named for? I tried wikiing Carnot and maybe it was the minister of war/interior for napoleon? But that's kinda meh. French president who was assassinated? Probably not.
Anhalt is so much fun, bros.
Subs still in and increasing in numbersHybrids still in and increasing in numbersNon-RTS skycancer still in and increasing in numbersDead game indeed
>>2067612yeahnonoOnly see lots of cvs at ~6, unless you're a SEAmonkey I guess. Why are people even mad at hybrids that aren't hildebrand? Just shoot their big ass box.
>>2067612Don't forget Dutchcancer
>>2067647They really need to nerf their plane hp by like 1/3. Fucking stupid they can fly into the best AA in the game and lose maybe 1 plane before drop.
>another smolly auction
Libertad or Schlieffen?
>>2069655schlieffen IMO, libertad is so fucking braindead boring. schleef lets you torp people too and hydro is nice to have.
>>2069655Libertad. Schlieffen gets focused down quickly for being a battlecruiser, meanwhile everyone runs from Libertad.
>>2069655liggertard is an affront to god and very faggy and gay
Should I move up to Adalbert? I heard some people say Manteuffel is the peak of the line.
LOL LMAO
>>2070507>98% chance to get NON PREMIUM containers>premium containers are less than 1% combinedLOL
>>2070507is this perhaps an out of season april fools joke?
i miss RTS carriers
you think you do, but you don't(but unironically)
>>2075147I used to play RTS CVs and man, what a system that was>everything is insanely skill-based for the CVs, proper strafing and mindgames is everything>whichever team has the better CV just wins, end of story, vast majority of surface ships have zero counterplay and get killed in a single cross drop like Soviet CVs but worse, only counterplay is your CV saving you with fighters but if he isn't the better player he's deplaned and de-fanged a few minutes into the matchThe only thing that I miss from the RTS CV era was the brief window of Worcester dominance where you had 6.9KM stealth AA on like 6km air detect and if you turned on DFAA the moment the CV reached your air detect you could evaporate his squads with next to no ability for him to counterplay. If he tries to press home a strike on you, he has DFAA scatter on his accuracy and it's a gamble if he hits you (although it was a very real thing for CVs to still manage to dev-strike full HP Worcesters, that how bullshit RTS CVs were) and if he tries to pull his planes out of your AA he'd lose 75-100% of his planes before they leave your AA bubble.
38k steel, 350k coalWhat do I do with them?
Buy Aki and KearsargeOr buy Lauria and Iwami
Are the free T9 ships from the new year event from any TT line or a selection?>>20787631
>>2079515There are 5 specific ships. lepanto, sejong, the petro 9 and 2 others I forgor.
>>2079566Izumo
>>2079515Selection of lines and the best option is going to be the Lepanto since that tech tree sucks ass and only having to grind the Lepanto to get to the one good ship in the tree (Columbo) is a nice skipSejong line isn't bad, Izumo line isn't that bad, Riga line is pretty fucking strong and not worth skipping past Tallinn when grinding up the line also gets you to Nevsky which is good enough to be banned from tournaments, Fletcher is pretty fucking pointless when Gearing has fallen off so hard it isn't even funny and the other USN DD line is probably way better So the only line that really makes sense is Lepanto to skip a truly awful FXP bait tech treeLepanto >>> Izumo > Sejong > Riga > Fletcher in order of priority imo
Got Neustra B. How do I play this?
>>2080473Tier IX Premium Russian destroyer Neustrashimy is very similar to Tier X Russian destroyer Grozovoi in the regular tech tree. While Neustrashimy has one less turret than Grozovoi, Neustrashimy trades the missing firepower for better concealment. She is very much a jack-of-all-trades, marrying the gunboat aspects of the Soviet destroyer line with Japanese-like stealth and American torpedo performance.The most obvious characteristic of Neustrashimy is her lack of main battery punch. With only four barrels, a Neustrashimy salvo lacks in power compared to the majority of her contemporaries at Tier IX. On the other hand, Neustrashimy’s concealment is outstanding, besting even Tier X Japanese destroyer Shimakaze. Neustrashimy boasts some of the best torpedoes among all Russian destroyers. The real strength of Neustrashimy lies in her consumables set. Like Grozovoi, Neustrashimy has a fantastic array of consumables that afford her a lot of flexibility. This allows Neustrashimy to play near the front lines, supporting pushes into objectives, whilst having options to deter or disengage from combat when it becomes unfavorable. If timed correctly, the combined use of Specialized Repair TeamsWhile active, restores a percentage of the ship's health points each second. and Engine BoostWhile active, increases a ship's speed by a fixed percentage. can increase her longevity in battle, where she can use her advantages to harass enemy counter-pushes, hunt down enemy ships, or steal back capture points at her leisure. In summary, this hybrid-platform allows a lot of freedom on the high seas.
Thank you chat gpt
>>2080669if you wanted a real answer you'd go watch Potato Quality or Flamuu or whoever the fuckIt's a hybrid with solid torps that has a cockroach heal, so you pick fights that you'd never win against ships that can't heal and whittle them down over the course of multiple engagements while spamming torps at shit.You have Russian 130s so you can open up the gap and still pound them good until they disengage, just don't get caught with your pants down with your heal on cooldown.
>>2080669I pulled it from the wiki actually, if you're too lazy to read even two paragraphs I'm not sure why you bothered asking.
Having a hard time deciding if I want Hawaii or Bremen, I have just enough steel to grab one of the two.My initial thought is Hawaii because it has braindead Smolensk tier gun arcs, stupid range, stupid DPM, a ridiculously tanky hull and your tradeoff is that you burn down if you open water (on a ship that can swap to Atlanta arcs and sit next to an island to farm) and I guess you don't have torps if someone rushes your island but I mean you have a fucking radar so that's on you. Add in stupidly good AA for a cruiser to get CV cunts to fuck off and I'm really not seeing much of a downside here.But Bremen also looks like a very consistent, reliable swiss army knife of a ship and I'm not sure if it'd be more rewarding to have a ship with a stronger armor profile and more of a German kiting playstyle. I don't have Hindenburg and probably won't grind it any time soon but I'm wondering if Hinden/Clausewitz offer a similar enough playstyle that Bremen is nice but not a must-have whereas what can really compare to Hawaii?Neither Aki or I-56 enter into the equation, I have Musashi so I don't need another Japanese BB and hybrids are gay anyways and who the FUCK plays submarinesI've also been considering Valparaiso but honestly I think I enjoy cruisers more than battleships and both Bremen and Hawaii look compelling enough to skip Valp.
Hawaii and Bremen are both boring fire spammers. There are plenty of TT ships which do what they do already. I don't think Hawaii will be better at DD hunting than a lot of other options available for free either.So get Le Havre.
>>2082914are there actually people buying Le Memevre when it's an uncommon that'll end up in the regular shop?
>>2079659Should've added the spaniard cruiser.>>2082150They are all gay shit. And Bremen prolly has better hull than base hindi.
>>2082922idk I'm just trolling, I don't find either firespammer interesting though.>>2083128Spanish cruiser is too new, they want everyone to have to grind through the terrible lower ones. Bremen is clausewitz hull right? Yeah that's better than most cruisers.
literally first small crate wtf
>>2083493I got research bureau points. What did you get?
>>2083500Red boosters. But 10% on a steel ship is a crazy drop. Gonna flood the game with it.
>>2083528>10% on a steel ship is a crazy dropYes, but we didn't get a ship. Guess we used all of our luck to get Golden Gift boxes.
>>2083493meanwhile I opened three and got Rio de Janeiro :(
Kii or Anhalt?
>>2089325anhalt
Should I get the Blyskawica '44?
Should I get the Surcouf?
>>2089325Kii for sure. Anhalt is an undergunned barge.>>2089818I don't think a smokeless, heal-less DD is good, so I would say no. I guess if you're doing the salvage thing and have a huge excess of some resource fine, but it's very pricey.>>2090486No, we have too many subs as is.
Hmm... 1 Santa ultra or 2 Santa mega?
>>20919785+20+40+3What's the rest? Ships and gold container?Anyway they're roughly equal, I think you go ultra unless you are buying in bulk, in which case you can buy enough of the megas to hit pity on rolling a ship.
11 giga crates and I got a fucking picardie only. Shame. Not even premium time, not even any XP economic bonuses.
>strasbourgLmao. Although this looks like Richie but better dpm?
Bought one ultra, got Munchen. At least It's worth the money, I guess.
>>2092202It's Dunkerque but a tier higher with RLB. Pretty bad. I got one gold container from 7 megas with red boosters, nothing else. Got a Rodney from a bunch of smalls. Oh well.
>firing on a ship at 12.3km with Hawaii>switch back to regular mode so I can continue to fire on him as he leaves my range>my arced salvo hits him at the same time as my non-arced salvo due to the travel time difference>3 insta-fireskek this ship can do MRSI
>grab one of my mega containers from the armory>FR.25Nice, I don't know that I'll ever play this but neat
Any recommendation?
>>2096308Groningen if you're a DD playerI see people say decently positive things about Pommern and maybe Iwami, I don't have an opinion on Agir/Carnot/Polo
>>2096308Kearsarge is frankly amazing, even if you never launch a single plane. Iwami is a pretty well-rounded ship, can go full secondaries or just go hybrid with the module and 3 point skill. Tier 9 Kii, makes good money.
>>2096308I narrowed it down to 4 ships.
>>2096898Iwami
>>2096898It'd help if you had a playstyle you prefer.Groningen is a great gunboat DD, if you have Friesland then don't buy it since it's a clone but if not it's a very solid destroyer with a decently fun playstyle.Pommern is a German brawler with a good secondary focus and decent enough torps for brawling - but you have the disappointing German 380s. They're in large enough number to be useful, but they're not exactly what I'd consider an enjoyable gunnery experience.Iwami on the other hand has solid 410s with great dispersion/sigma that allows you to play mid to long range. You have the DECENT 100mm secondaries, but you don't have buffed secondaries and it doesn't have a brawling armor profile so it's not really meant for that. You also get torps that have a stupid amount of damage and 20km range if you want to dump them into caps/at islands while playing mid-range, or you can save them to shut down anyone trying to brawl you. I'm not sure what Marco Polo does, mid range SAP alpha striker with nasty 406 guns?
>>2096983I generally like all type of ships except subs and CVs and I already have Azuma for credit grinding, so I'm just looking for fun ships.
>>2096991I'd narrow it down to Groningen and Iwami, the other guy seems to really like Iwami so it can't be too bad and Japanese BBs are usually pretty solid (but I'm a DD main so I'm biased in all of this)If you still can't pick flip a coin.Heads Groningen, Tails Iwami.
DDs are fun but playing them always made me too excited.
While we're discussing coal ships, this is what I'm looking at in my armory.I'm thinking I'll probably buy Hayate since I'm a DD main and I actually really enjoy Asashio/Japanese 127s, so having a hybrid where the 127s have enough DPM to be useful outside of just alpha strike damage is appealing.But Marceau also seems fun if challenging to play, Tromp is kinda iffy since I don't like using gimmicky shit like airstrikes but I've heard it's a decently fun DD anyways.Khaba is a style of DD I enjoy, and I wish I would've just grinded the line when I had the chance, but I can't imagine it's worth coal over Delny/Kleber in the tech treeI'm also mildly considering Yoshino, I'm not sure if I need/want a large cruiser that spams HE from across the map but it's not a totally unappealing playstyle just something I think I have enough of already.Brisbane is on my radar but not sure it offers enough over something like Minotaur to be worth 310k coal, at least Defence is unique if totally out of my price range for the time being (would rather focus on buying two 260k coal ships)
>>2097070I don't think Yoshino is worth it IF you already have Azuma.
>>2097080Different poster from the other guy (he's already narrowed it down to a few ships and he's looking at T9 ships)My Japanese fleet looks like this, so it's not like there's no value in owning Yoshino. But it's also not like I don't have other long range kiting HE spammers like Henri IV, Nevsky and even Kushiro to some extent. Obviously Yoshino is a bit different since it's larger and bulkier and straddles the line between cruisers and BBs, but it's still the same fundamental sit in the back and smack people with HE gameplay unless the AP is actually really good and I'm underestimating the ship.
bourgogne or austin for funmaxxing in randoms? i already have plymouth for my CL needs. nothing else interests me including the new ships at the steel event.
>>2097195Hawaii is fat Austin with autism, watch a few videos on it (Flamuu and PQ both have videos now) before you write it off.
Anyone have both Illinois and Siegfried? I'm not sure which one I should get.
>>2097211there's no way for me to get 10k steel before the event ends, since i have to drag myself into playing once a day. which is why i only have these two as my option. hawaii is the only one what looks fun from the bunch but i dont have steel for it.
>>2097228Not even with coupon?
>>2097235with the coupon its 10k, otherwise 15k. its not like its over for me. like i said i only play once a day or a few games if i feel like it.
>>2097228I'd say there's actually way more time than you think before the event ends but if you're barely playing and not grinding dockyard/event pass/ranked then yeah it might be out of your reach
picked austin after all. spamming sap with MBRB is fun. i thought it had a radar for whatever reason, but guess not.
>>2097070Marceau and Hayate are both good, maybe even great. I would not get khaba.
>>2097217Siegfried hasn't been good in a long time and the new german pocket battleship line just make it worse. Illinois is a DM at tier 9 with BB armor, amazing.
Cars that require hands?
cruiser t8 and below
>ochakovlmoa
Holy fuck. What the fuck is Le Hardi. Haven't even known it's a thing until I saw in armory. How is this for steel lol?
I just got Kidd from this. Don't forget to do yours.
Why does this ship attracts so many braindead idiots?
Jesus christ Ashitaka is dogshitI got it from a santa container and I still feel ripped off, 31s reload on 10 rifles and they have German BB dispersion and awful AP that does no fucking damage despite being 410s.
Is EU server still the go to server?
How new player friendly is WoWS in 2025?I'm thinking about making a new account on a different server for reason.
>>2102362Because reddit and CCs hyped it up for a year. Because it is stupidly overpowered. Because it is an autoplaying secondary barge.
>accidentally load into random battles with a dogshit ship>bottom tier so I can't carry>top tier is two T9s>one of them is an Izumo with TEN (10) battles to his nameThis Christmas gift ship shit should've only been available to people who already have at least one tier 9, this is fucked
free TT trash is their marketing strategy
>>2106537He cost us the fucking match, he completely gave up a flank and forced me to blob with the team.We then lost on points because the enemy team spent the match with two free caps and we didn't - we were still up on ships despite this worthless chimp doing literally nothing but dying in one of two top tier ships on our teamnot even useful as a fucking meatshield ts pmo sm
What are some fun tier 9 ships? Wish tier 10s weren't expensive to run without premium time.
Nigga I already have B...>>2107604kita, alsace, duncan,
>>2107743You can give her to me. I never got around to getting her.
>>2107745Can you even gift anything in this slop?
>>2107750Only when you buying from the premium shop.
>>2107750Yes, but not ships you're getting from containers/have in your port.But if you were feeling generous, you can buy Atago from the premium shop for real money and select "Purchase as gift"Part of me kinda wishes there was a system to gift/trade ships among players but it would be super abusable so WG would never add it since it'd kill their bottom lineYou'd have tons of bot accounts grinding out dockyard ships/opening free christmas crates/doing events and whatever to accumulate premium ships and then selling them for like half the price WG charges.
Should I?
Man I was retarded and didn't read so I thought the free T9 ship was any one. Wanted to pick Adatara since I'm on Nagato and Yumihari is apparently an awful grind compared to Amagi. Fuck me for not reading.
>>2109804They aren't that generous anymore.
Elbing is pretty fun. It's like a stealthy light cruiser with no citadel and with great guns.The problem is... how do I deal with enemy destroyers?
Man, night MM is absolute fuck. In my last game the enemy team has 3 radar while we has none, and 2 out of 3 of their DDs has smoke + hydro
>>2110061You kinda don't, it's one of those DDs that isn't meant to deal with other DDs on its own. If they get spotted for you then hit them with AP if it'll arm and you can get rid of them pretty quickly but if it's a 1v1 you just have to try to bait them into pushing into their conceal around an island or other cover or they'll just kite you forever. You either support conventional DDs, go in with radar ships, or just sorta accept you're crippling a DD slot with a CL.
>>2110590Yeah, that's what I thought. Maybe I should just stick with Daring.
>>2110603They don't have the same role. You are just approaching the other one wrong.
It feels like confirmation bias since it apparently doesn't have any better sigma or dispersion values than Iowa, and slightly worse shell ballistics, but I have found Indiana's dispersion/gunnery to be surprisingly good.I'm just dicking around with it in Asyms but I'm surprised at how playable this ship is, all it's missing is a nice 8% speed boost to get it up to like 31kts top speed and it'd be perfect.
No way this cringe is my best fight this year
>>2109982Should I just pick Izumo and deal with wanting to die in Yumihari? Not really sure about going for Lepanto, Columbo looks cool and all with the 4x4 guns but idk.
>>2114062Columbo is fucking retarded, even without legmodDented ship that just chunks for 20k regardless of angling/positioning etcIf you want the meta pick then grab Lepanto
>>2110061>It's like a stealthy light cruiser with no citadel and with great guns.I hate it because it's missing one gigantic thing, DPM. If you aren't getting cits regularly, it's just worse than spamming AP with Grozovoi or Z-52.
>>2114062columbo is trash without legmod, don't bother if you can't get it.
Bit of a daft question but has there been any sort of FXP ship in the past few years? I'm sitting on like 3M and regret not buying a bunch of the fxp ships when I had the chance, now I'm just wondering if it's possible WG is ever going to do anything with FXP again or if I should just dump it all into Harugumo resets and pick up a research bureau ship.
>>2114426Nope, they added research bureau for FXP dumping.
>>2110859I know, but I think this guy >>2110859 is right. DD is very crucial to winning and choosing to play a DD that can't do DD jobs well is like gimping your team. Not saying they can't work though.It's also a reason why I like tanky cruisers with good gun. It's like you bring a pocket battleship that use a cruiser slot, thus giving your team advantage.
How's Iowa nowadays? I was thinking about getting her for historical reason.
I will take that. Is she any good though?
>>2119722Should still be decent. I've been playing a bunch of Indiana lately and it's surprisingly good (in Asym, anyways)The guns in specific do a lot of work, not sure how much of that is the 27s reload and how much is bias but on paper it should be a bit worse than Iowa.All of that to say you should still be able to make Iowa work.
>>2119722She's fine, gotten numerous buffs over the years. Faster/better heal, still good guns.
finally something rare
>>2128116I want to be jealous but I don't know if I really feel like Kami/Gremy are even worth playing nowadays
I just got Aki from a crate. These are most of the ships I got during this event.
>>2130719I want to roll another steel ship from a golden crate (ideally Bremen) but I don't want to sink a ton of cash into a lot of crates
>>2069655Libtard if you're a metaslave faggot. Schlieffen otherwise.
>>2054038>If I wanted to pad WR I'd just play DD all day.It says a lot about the average modern World of Warships player if the mere act of playing the Destroyer yourself nets you more consistent victories than if you didn't.
>>2130846>modernAs a DD Mafia since Beta my brother in christ it's always been this wayLike 80-85% of DD players in this game are pure dogshit and it's always been the most influential class so playing DD remotely competently tends to be free wins.Of course CVs and Subs have taken away from that a bit but not every match has CVs/Subs and they still don't completely negate a DD's impact, just mitigate it.
how do I solve this terminal skill issue?>my petroabysmal shotgun>everyone else's petrorailgun niggerlaser
>>2130994that's why the best world of warships players by winrate are all carrier players, right?like, literally nothing but carrier mains all the way down
glad you can't read and out yourself as s a retard
you said DDs are the most influential class and that's the most retarded nonsense I've ever read; CVs are, obviously
>>2131297By what metric? RTS CVs that were literally completely fucking braindead gamebreaking and won by massive skill differential, or current CVs that aren't even close to as influential on the match despite still being questionably balanced?I'd like to know your metric for "best players" anyways, the last time I looked at an actually decent leaderboard you had a handful of retardedly high WR players in CVs (most of their matches in RTS CVs) with the vast majority of the top 100 being DD players and a few cruiser/BB players.
>>2131297They play in divs, solo winrate is dominated by DDs.
I've recently come back to wows, I really enjoy DD but got nothing but a Fletcher and some T7/8 premiums from boxes, what would be the the META lines to grind?
>>2130994That's fair. I wasn't playing DDs a whole lot back in the day. I've always been a BB monkey until relatively recently.
>>2132244Attilio Regolo, Daring, Shimakaze, Cassard and Yueyang are various degrees of meta. Pick whichever you like the style of most. If you have coal Hayate is also good.
>>2132690>Regolo, Shima, Cassard>Meta
>>2132244Any gunboats that released after Harugumo line are good.
>>2132244Depends on WHAT DD playstyle you wantArguably torpboats aren't meta in any way and you MUST play gunboats, but if you enjoy torpboat/hybrid there are still decent options to be hadThe new USN DD line is pretty okay (peaks at T9) if you like gunboats and are good with the gimmicky smoke mechanicGdansk line is crazy good but also not exactly new player friendlyDaring is still pretty good even if the low speed does hamper itI think Yueyang is finally in a better place with the buffs its received over the years to the point it's basically just a Gearing but better
>>2132773What do you consider meta? I'm suggesting them with meta being "good in randoms". Some dude with a t9 isn't going into clan battles.
Fartu has released the DD tierlist, no need to arguehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DgmcsADJVw
>>2135284flamu is a damage farmer, here's the proper list:https://youtu.be/x6ldEk0Y08k?si=CQHrmL7DNxIPikoI
>>2135830>some literal random nobodyokay>Laffey is badalright closed the video guy might be retarded
Laffey is the one with burst?
>>2135958world's smartest flamu simpgood bitch, don't think for yourself>>2135960The burst which shaves .3 seconds off just firing normally with no other bonuses, yes. She's just a worse gearing.
>>2136229It's a god tier car with a superheal and the best smoke in the game and niggers are like "it's a worse gearing bro"
>>2135958if you watch his laffey video he concedes that he rates it so lowly because he hates the way that it plays personallyit is stupid though, all of the superheal DDs are objectively S tier for solo randoms
>>2136966It has limited smoke, not best smoke.Other DDs have super healsIt has trash torps, trash guns and is slow. Almost all other DDs can just walk away.Lushun, Daring, Alvaro, Vampire, Ragnar and Hull all smash it.
>>2141056It has insanely good smoke that allows you to control vision. Do I think they should buff the duration by another like 40 seconds so you have some room to farm when the tech tree gets 200s of smoke? Yeah, 120s of duration on Laffey would probably help a lot.I'd probably also buff the burst fire to a 20s reload and if possible reduce the interval to 0.5s between salvos, and if you really wanted to dig into the bag and make it a proper 2025 ship and a real monster I'd give it Austin HE shell weight/velocity so the guns are effective all the way out to the 12.4km max range and it's a genuinely terrifying threat. But to call it D tier when there's plenty of stuff it totally shits on and it has a pretty decent toolkit is insane. I mean if you 1v1 a Gearing the dude is losing that fight 9/10 times and the 1 time he wins is because you sat broadside and ate his torps. Actually I'd probably add that to the Laffey buffs if we're really going at it - 8km to 12km torps, so the ship has a unified effective range out to 12km and can play around radar cruisers since the torps are otherwise the same as Gearing's pretty well liked torps. But to say the ship is bad right now is cope. It's just a solid, strong DD and not a powercreep monster.
>>2141829It should be buffed those ways and I got tricked into buying her so hey, good for me. If you give her 12km torps, a purpose to her burst and more smoke time she would absolutely be better than Gearing, so top half, maybe top quarter DD. But she doesn't have those things so she has an extremely small and awkward niche. Is she fine against your average DD? Yeah, but she suffers badly against some DDs and she's not even that good at farming due to short torps and limited total smoke time. I agree that almost any DD with a heal is "good" but she has one of the worst packages to go with that heal of all DDs.
Talk about DDs, Hull or Sherman?
>>2142246Sherman is alright but has poor conceal + is clumsy and slow.It's a little like a Daring in that sense (you have less usable torps but they are not as useless as people make them out to be, I get plenty of hits with them but you cannot defend yourself with them) You don't get a heal like Daring which is a downside, and you have long duration USN smokes that require you to anchor in one place to farm instead of being mobile. You do have insane SAP and a 5km hydro though so you're not useless as a DD hunter but you get punished even harder than Daring for overextending and WILL die if you try to cap contest early game.Can't speak to Hull as I don't own it (but will probably get it when I finally get the RP)I don't know that you can compare the two though since they use totally different resources, I still think Sherman is probably among the better coal ships you can buy and I'd recommend it as long as you know what you're getting yourself into (mid-range farming gunboat that can be very nasty as a DD hunter in the lategame or opportunistically midgame)
Are any of the coal IJN ships good? I still have my 50% coupon to burn.
>>2143052Atago and Maybe Hayate.
>>2142246Sherman is boring, Hull is fun.>>2143052Iwani, Hayate and Azuma are all good.
I think I'll retire my Daring.What tier 10 DDs would you recommend for Random?
Kleber or Gdansk?
>>2143096legmod gearing
It's kinda amazing to me how solid Des Moines still is for a ship that's been in the game since launch.Amazing AP, consistent HE, great DPM, solid enough hull (even if everything overmatches it now), good maneuverability for an island camper, it's just an incredibly solid ship that still does work.
>>2144091It's awesome until the armada of braindead airplane boats decide you don't get to play the game anymore.
>>2144145Yeah but that's a LOT of shit and at least DM gets decent enough AA for a cruiser with the option to run DFAAIt's also an island cruiser so it suffers slightly less than open water flankers do.Honestly I'd give it a tiny buff by moving DFAA to a separate slot so it gets hydro+DFAA like Worcester does.
lol
>>2146549It is generous)))Stop complaining)))cannot be of waitings for the Christmas reward to be one small container)))after all, mega container is being too greedy)))
>>2146549We will get mega satan crate for the 25th, trust the plan.
Champagne is pretty fun. I love battlecruisers with accurate guns. Are there any other ships similar to her? Tsurugi?
Should I grind Daring or Gdansk? Which one do you think is better? (in Random)
>>2147707You said it was going to be a mega...
How the hell is he so lucky?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzK3YlrAGB0
>>2149960you got trik'd
Someone give me a good clan to join, i'm a CBT bro with a 59% WR
>>2151443join HOTEL
>>2151443RDDT_17
>>2151736>>2151860ded clans, try again.
finallyI've unlocked all tech tree shipstook way too long
>>2152974now buy them, that's the actual difficult part.
>>2152974now reset them all for research bureau points
Whats the most broken coal ship
>all blowoutsIf WG sell premium MM I'd buy it.
So ive come back from a 10 year hiatus at urging of fren and was awarded 50000 dubloons, like 150 million creds and a million free exp for being a beta tester. I dont know what the fuck i should do with any of it. I used to play the shit out of tier 4 carrier cause top down torp blasting was "fun", and tried a couple games and now you directly control the planes (neat) but only fire like 2 torps\bombs\rockets at a time which is dogshit. What the fuck should i be doing?
>>2156738if you want to be a real cv cancer player then take your fxp and research the Russian CV line (Nakhimov, or even just Pobeda)their gimmick is the entire flight attacks at once so you get stupid amount of ordinance spammed out and you get to ignore AA instead of getting whittled down trying to make multiple attack runsFranklin D Roosevelt also has large torp squads but is steel so you probably can't afford it, Malta might have large squads as a coal CV? I don't really play a lot of CV so I can't tell you which skycancer is the best.
Is this game fun if I play war thunder? The healthbars and cartoon graphics are very offputting. I just want to play the yamato and submarines
>>2158701If you're okay with >Arkaden the gameplay is arguably way better, at least at a core mechanical level (ignoring all the really cancerous powercreep and pay to win shit) They're a lot more tactical depth and the gameplay isn't slow as fucking molasses. Submarines are kind of a weird class that isn't really that fun to play or play against, Yamato is solid enough.Potato Quality just did a Japanese tech tree focus if you're up for an hour of gameplay to see how the entire tree plays and what you're in for as you grindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQbg15KaJSkFlamuu's an alright source for gameplay too, he's kind of a dickhead and sometimes he's wrong about shit (he argued with me with a straight face that Massa was a mediocre ship at the time of its release) but he has hands and usually his opinion on cars is alrighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DCa2dgUeFoActually if you create an account and log in before January 1st, you can get Izumo for free right now and skip 90% of the tech tree grind.I don't know if I recommend actually jumping in at T9, but it would save you weeks of grinding towards Yamato even if you decide to grind something else like US BBs to get a feel for the game/learn at lower tiers.
>>2158701>I just want to play the yamato and submarinesThen it's fine. I dislike WT naval very much, it's beautiful and the detailed x-rays are cool, but the gameplay is simply atrocious. Warships is not as simple as say, arcade WT ground or air, so I think it can still be fun.Also I don't think it's cartoony at all, maybe you mean the silly captain they use as a mascot? The models are not quite as detailed as WT, but still very good.
>game automatically changes the battle type from Asym to Randoms>load into match>CV nigger tortures me the entire match and makes the game literally unplayablefun
Yamato or Bungo?
>>2160987In 2026, Bungo has the more appealing gimmick I'd say. Yamato is arguably only still worth it with the legendary mod, although I'm probably really biased by owning Musashi.
Forgot to buy 360 days premium....
I got a 50% off anything in the store coupon, what should I get. Thinking of just getting a huge doubloon pack desu, I have additional coupons in the doubloon shop.Any recs?
>>2160405>game automatically changes the battle type from Asym to RandomsHoly fugg, and I thought I did go crazy.
>>2163875No, WG does it on purpose to force people into the randoms queue so the game won't be totally dead. Not sure what triggers it but it's fucking annoying because Asym ships/builds are not necessarily what I want to play in randoms.
>>2042888Not interested in them
I wish WG would just hurry up and tell me if I can afford Surcouf or not
...I'm running low.
I'm not going to lie I'm super fucking interested to see how this NY event plays out considering one of the reward ships is R Lauria. Not really a fan of having another dozen fucking tech tree clones with retarded names in the game but getting my hands on a T10 steel ship for free is definitely a really interesting prospect, would be awesome if it's possible to get the Navarin clone in addition to it without spending a fortune.
>>2174705>this NY eventWhat event?
>>2177600https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/closed-test-151-lunar-new-year-2026-unbreakable-front-and-more
>>2177769Thank you.
been playing on and off for a long while but it's a fun game and i have a little money nowwhat bote to buy?consider i am still bad at the game
>>2177821Just wait for the LNY event >>2174705 and grab some premiums there.If you really want to spend might as well gamble on satan crates r/nI'm honestly not sure what premium I'd outright shill to you, you'd have to give me your favorite tech tree line and consider you can pick up a premium ship in the coal shop without spending money.
>Surcouf salvage event has three premiumsOh, I'm definitely not going to be able to afford this fucker am I?
>join clan to maybe do NBs, CBs and leech off of port bonuses>shortly after joining they make a new rule mandating being in VC while you're logged into the gameNigga, fuck no. I don't want to be forced to sit in your VC while solo playing asym battles to unwind from work.Anyone got a good clan to join that doesn't suck balls and doesn't have gay rules?
>>2182370What server?
>>2182392NA
>>2182418How's NA server? I heard they have even less players than Asia.
I have enough credits for two ships but which should I buy first?
Is the game fun yet? Haven't played since they removed top down RTS CVs.
Wait, they're seriously giving out R. Lauria for free? Guess I gotta come back to grab it.>>2182842No, they added subs which are 1,000 times worse than any plane.>>2182511Schlieffen and Jinan. Unless you are crippled, then get Libertad.
>>2183141Yep, if you haven't checked the blog you get Dmitry Pozharsky in the same track.Not sure if you'll be able to run up the other Italian track for the Giuseppe Verdi and Marco Polo as well or if that'll be too many points.There are a few other interesting options like a premium Petro that a lot of people will probably go for and the track with the Navarin and Z-52.I'm curious what the compensation will be for Optio since I already own it from the battle pass, probably credits but doubloons would be really nice
>>2183141You don't understand, I quit BECAUSE they reworked CVs... stomping low ranked idiots with no AA with omnidirectional torp spreads was so much fun.
>>2183526The reworked CVs are even stronger. AA barely does anything and your planes now immune to AA when attacking so you can always get at least one drop and your CVs can regenerate planes so you will never run out of them.
>>2183526You still do that, short of flying into flak cloudsGrab a Soviet CV and you can blow your entire load into a guy in one go instead of having to faff about trying to drop him multiple times
>>2183141>Unless you are crippled, then get Libertad.People really hate Libertad huh.
>>2183615And they say Russian bias isn't real.
>>2184188Did you know? Soviet had the strongest aircraft carrier in WW2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3XdHLLJaog
>>2184155I mean it's simply braindead. You can't get cit, secondaries aim for you and it's fast. Only real weakness is torps/planes but that's 90% of BBs. The pan-am captain doesn't help with the accusations.
Wow, Kremlin is actually really fucking bad.The guns are surprisingly good but you literally can't use your rear turret because it has a paper thin belt and if you aren't at autobounce angles you eat 5-6 cits and lose half your ship in seconds. I'm not talking punished for being flat broadside I mean the second you give even the tiniest sliver of non-autobounce side you instantly get devstruck.
someone talk me into or out of getting the da barbiano. she looks awesome.
>>2186132She can't fight DDs since her concealment, maneuver and arcs are shit. She's a citadel-less light cruiser taking a DD slot. Which is good for damage farming but bad for winrate. Personally, I rarely see them do anything impactful.
Finally going to have enough RB points soon, probably going to grab Hull but still curious if any of the other ships are worthwhilePart of me almost wants Slava but not sure how she is in the big two six
>>2186268Irrefutably good tier: Ohio, Illinois, IrresistiblePotentially good tier: Slava, Colbert, HullLooks nice tier: Sicilia
>sold all my ships in an attempt to quit the game>came crawling back a few months later anyway>now I have to grind credits to get all my ships backIn hindsight that was pretty stupid of me.
>>2186766>can only recover one premium ship per 30 daysI'll never get them all back...Don't be like me. Remember to never rage quit.
>>2186797jesus lol I quit for a year or two but I just uninstalled the game instead of nuking my harbor
Anything else interesting?
>>2187125Cossack was and should still be really good, I'd put it above Repulse. Optio is kinda whatever and you MIGHT be able to re-grab it from the upcoming event with leftover tokens if you really want it. Honestly this is one of those things that, I don't know where your credits went or whatnot but if you haven't started playing yet I'd contact WG and lie and tell them your account was compromised and the person deleted all of your ships.See if you can just straight up get them to rollback your account and recover all 40 something ships in one go.
Carriers are fair and balanse)))
>>2187626going back to look at old CV mains is really something elsethis used to be achievable solo
I know Hargumo line is the best for grinding RB points, but what is the second best? Because I'm tired of of having Kitakaze on permanent reset.
>>2187725Never mind, found it.
How dead is the NA server? Haven't played in years. Can I switch my account to another server? Will I be raped by ping and sweatlords?
Surcouf pricing availablehttps://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/salvage-for-victory-surcouf-resources-breakdown>I only have 62% of the progress even if I burn all of my boostersouchnot even sure santa crates would salvage it, you really need to have a ton of coal saved up since the booster rates are really shitty
does salem have an armor hole? I got cit through the bow by bourg HE
199 super containers without a single ship. WG really gutted the SC hard.
>>2190012Yeah, it's grim. I remember getting my Giulio Cesare from a SC, it used to be rare to get a SC but super exciting because you often got something good.Now getting an SC is just a mundane chore.
what am I in for?
