These new German cruisers are pretty fun. How are you enjoying them?
I don't play loser nations.
dead game
>>2049417Weren't ~10% drop chance containers for a T8/9 ship the big santas from previous years?
>>2049936No.
I've been playing nothing but Knesebeck for the past 3 days. I even like it more than the tier 10 simply because it looks better.
>>2042888>Fantasy Paper Gacha Ship GameNo.
I'm getting Aki, wotabout youse goys?
>>2053299Probably Valpa, although I'm still considering dropping all of my voyage tokens into a Rhode Island instead.
>>2053809Understandable but I already get bored playing pan-america BBs, I think valpa is just too training wheels to be enjoyable. Personally I feel Rhode Island is wildly overrated. It's not bad, but I don't think its worth the huge price tag.
>>2053970>too training wheelsWhile I'll admit it's a zero skill ship I want something that I can run down and still maintain my 60% WR, gotta play the braindead broken shit if you want to carry these teamsI mean what else would I buy, the super Hinden or the super Atlanta? I'm not buying Aki since I already have some Japanese BBs and I refuse to play hybrids on principle.
Can you use a free tier 9 ship that they will give you to get research points?
>>2053978I aint judging, I'm just past the point of caring when it's usually down to how retarded my DDs are whether we win or lose. If I wanted to pad WR I'd just play DD all day. I'm more interested in fun and valp looks boring. Enjoy though.>>2054015Like research the tier 10 following it? Yes.
>>2054038I mean research bureau points for a reset line.
>>2054039Uh, if you reset that line beforehand? I assume so.
>>2054015You can reset the line, but you will only get RP for the Tier 9 and 10 if you used the T9 to skip grinding the line.
any of the black friday sale ships worth picking up?
>>2054612I think the deals are pretty mediocre unless you stumble on one of the discount coupons.
I don't get the event. If I get a B clone of a ship I already had, but got it outside of the blac kfriday event, I don't get the pair mission?
>>2056149It's retarded anyway. Why would you want a copy of a premium you already have?
>germanheil
*bombs u*
>>2058098Great, just great. This is exactly what this game needs.
>>2058098Can this thing cit light cruisers with that pen?
>>2058205I think HE needs the cit right below it since it can't go through multiple layers of armor.
>>2060589Hmm, so can't hit superstructure, can't hit turret roof. Do most cruisers have any more armor between the deck and the citadel roof? Guess I'd have to go look in the armor viewer.
>>2060762>do most cruisers have armor between the deck and cit roofYes, almost all of them do. You need the citadel to extend all the way up to the deck to not have that, and very few cruisers have citadels that large. In terms of cruisers that actually get deck cit - there are a few at low tiers that eat HE cits from regular caliber (152+) guns but I can't think of many if any cruisers that would eat HE pens through their decks in the tier 10 MM spread. I'm pretty sure even the really bad ones like Minotaur don't have deck level citadels.
So uh, mostly off-topic question, but who is Carnot named for? I tried wikiing Carnot and maybe it was the minister of war/interior for napoleon? But that's kinda meh. French president who was assassinated? Probably not.
Anhalt is so much fun, bros.
Subs still in and increasing in numbersHybrids still in and increasing in numbersNon-RTS skycancer still in and increasing in numbersDead game indeed
>>2067612yeahnonoOnly see lots of cvs at ~6, unless you're a SEAmonkey I guess. Why are people even mad at hybrids that aren't hildebrand? Just shoot their big ass box.
>>2067612Don't forget Dutchcancer
>>2067647They really need to nerf their plane hp by like 1/3. Fucking stupid they can fly into the best AA in the game and lose maybe 1 plane before drop.
>another smolly auction
Libertad or Schlieffen?
>>2069655schlieffen IMO, libertad is so fucking braindead boring. schleef lets you torp people too and hydro is nice to have.
>>2069655Libertad. Schlieffen gets focused down quickly for being a battlecruiser, meanwhile everyone runs from Libertad.
>>2069655liggertard is an affront to god and very faggy and gay
Should I move up to Adalbert? I heard some people say Manteuffel is the peak of the line.
LOL LMAO
>>2070507>98% chance to get NON PREMIUM containers>premium containers are less than 1% combinedLOL
>>2070507is this perhaps an out of season april fools joke?
i miss RTS carriers
you think you do, but you don't(but unironically)
>>2075147I used to play RTS CVs and man, what a system that was>everything is insanely skill-based for the CVs, proper strafing and mindgames is everything>whichever team has the better CV just wins, end of story, vast majority of surface ships have zero counterplay and get killed in a single cross drop like Soviet CVs but worse, only counterplay is your CV saving you with fighters but if he isn't the better player he's deplaned and de-fanged a few minutes into the matchThe only thing that I miss from the RTS CV era was the brief window of Worcester dominance where you had 6.9KM stealth AA on like 6km air detect and if you turned on DFAA the moment the CV reached your air detect you could evaporate his squads with next to no ability for him to counterplay. If he tries to press home a strike on you, he has DFAA scatter on his accuracy and it's a gamble if he hits you (although it was a very real thing for CVs to still manage to dev-strike full HP Worcesters, that how bullshit RTS CVs were) and if he tries to pull his planes out of your AA he'd lose 75-100% of his planes before they leave your AA bubble.
38k steel, 350k coalWhat do I do with them?
Buy Aki and KearsargeOr buy Lauria and Iwami
Are the free T9 ships from the new year event from any TT line or a selection?>>20787631
>>2079515There are 5 specific ships. lepanto, sejong, the petro 9 and 2 others I forgor.
>>2079566Izumo
>>2079515Selection of lines and the best option is going to be the Lepanto since that tech tree sucks ass and only having to grind the Lepanto to get to the one good ship in the tree (Columbo) is a nice skipSejong line isn't bad, Izumo line isn't that bad, Riga line is pretty fucking strong and not worth skipping past Tallinn when grinding up the line also gets you to Nevsky which is good enough to be banned from tournaments, Fletcher is pretty fucking pointless when Gearing has fallen off so hard it isn't even funny and the other USN DD line is probably way better So the only line that really makes sense is Lepanto to skip a truly awful FXP bait tech treeLepanto >>> Izumo > Sejong > Riga > Fletcher in order of priority imo
Got Neustra B. How do I play this?
>>2080473Tier IX Premium Russian destroyer Neustrashimy is very similar to Tier X Russian destroyer Grozovoi in the regular tech tree. While Neustrashimy has one less turret than Grozovoi, Neustrashimy trades the missing firepower for better concealment. She is very much a jack-of-all-trades, marrying the gunboat aspects of the Soviet destroyer line with Japanese-like stealth and American torpedo performance.The most obvious characteristic of Neustrashimy is her lack of main battery punch. With only four barrels, a Neustrashimy salvo lacks in power compared to the majority of her contemporaries at Tier IX. On the other hand, Neustrashimy’s concealment is outstanding, besting even Tier X Japanese destroyer Shimakaze. Neustrashimy boasts some of the best torpedoes among all Russian destroyers. The real strength of Neustrashimy lies in her consumables set. Like Grozovoi, Neustrashimy has a fantastic array of consumables that afford her a lot of flexibility. This allows Neustrashimy to play near the front lines, supporting pushes into objectives, whilst having options to deter or disengage from combat when it becomes unfavorable. If timed correctly, the combined use of Specialized Repair TeamsWhile active, restores a percentage of the ship's health points each second. and Engine BoostWhile active, increases a ship's speed by a fixed percentage. can increase her longevity in battle, where she can use her advantages to harass enemy counter-pushes, hunt down enemy ships, or steal back capture points at her leisure. In summary, this hybrid-platform allows a lot of freedom on the high seas.
Thank you chat gpt
>>2080669if you wanted a real answer you'd go watch Potato Quality or Flamuu or whoever the fuckIt's a hybrid with solid torps that has a cockroach heal, so you pick fights that you'd never win against ships that can't heal and whittle them down over the course of multiple engagements while spamming torps at shit.You have Russian 130s so you can open up the gap and still pound them good until they disengage, just don't get caught with your pants down with your heal on cooldown.
>>2080669I pulled it from the wiki actually, if you're too lazy to read even two paragraphs I'm not sure why you bothered asking.
Having a hard time deciding if I want Hawaii or Bremen, I have just enough steel to grab one of the two.My initial thought is Hawaii because it has braindead Smolensk tier gun arcs, stupid range, stupid DPM, a ridiculously tanky hull and your tradeoff is that you burn down if you open water (on a ship that can swap to Atlanta arcs and sit next to an island to farm) and I guess you don't have torps if someone rushes your island but I mean you have a fucking radar so that's on you. Add in stupidly good AA for a cruiser to get CV cunts to fuck off and I'm really not seeing much of a downside here.But Bremen also looks like a very consistent, reliable swiss army knife of a ship and I'm not sure if it'd be more rewarding to have a ship with a stronger armor profile and more of a German kiting playstyle. I don't have Hindenburg and probably won't grind it any time soon but I'm wondering if Hinden/Clausewitz offer a similar enough playstyle that Bremen is nice but not a must-have whereas what can really compare to Hawaii?Neither Aki or I-56 enter into the equation, I have Musashi so I don't need another Japanese BB and hybrids are gay anyways and who the FUCK plays submarinesI've also been considering Valparaiso but honestly I think I enjoy cruisers more than battleships and both Bremen and Hawaii look compelling enough to skip Valp.
Hawaii and Bremen are both boring fire spammers. There are plenty of TT ships which do what they do already. I don't think Hawaii will be better at DD hunting than a lot of other options available for free either.So get Le Havre.
>>2082914are there actually people buying Le Memevre when it's an uncommon that'll end up in the regular shop?
>>2079659Should've added the spaniard cruiser.>>2082150They are all gay shit. And Bremen prolly has better hull than base hindi.
>>2082922idk I'm just trolling, I don't find either firespammer interesting though.>>2083128Spanish cruiser is too new, they want everyone to have to grind through the terrible lower ones. Bremen is clausewitz hull right? Yeah that's better than most cruisers.
literally first small crate wtf
>>2083493I got research bureau points. What did you get?
>>2083500Red boosters. But 10% on a steel ship is a crazy drop. Gonna flood the game with it.
>>2083528>10% on a steel ship is a crazy dropYes, but we didn't get a ship. Guess we used all of our luck to get Golden Gift boxes.
>>2083493meanwhile I opened three and got Rio de Janeiro :(
Kii or Anhalt?
>>2089325anhalt
Should I get the Blyskawica '44?
Should I get the Surcouf?
>>2089325Kii for sure. Anhalt is an undergunned barge.>>2089818I don't think a smokeless, heal-less DD is good, so I would say no. I guess if you're doing the salvage thing and have a huge excess of some resource fine, but it's very pricey.>>2090486No, we have too many subs as is.
Hmm... 1 Santa ultra or 2 Santa mega?
>>20919785+20+40+3What's the rest? Ships and gold container?Anyway they're roughly equal, I think you go ultra unless you are buying in bulk, in which case you can buy enough of the megas to hit pity on rolling a ship.
11 giga crates and I got a fucking picardie only. Shame. Not even premium time, not even any XP economic bonuses.
>strasbourgLmao. Although this looks like Richie but better dpm?
Bought one ultra, got Munchen. At least It's worth the money, I guess.
>>2092202It's Dunkerque but a tier higher with RLB. Pretty bad. I got one gold container from 7 megas with red boosters, nothing else. Got a Rodney from a bunch of smalls. Oh well.
>firing on a ship at 12.3km with Hawaii>switch back to regular mode so I can continue to fire on him as he leaves my range>my arced salvo hits him at the same time as my non-arced salvo due to the travel time difference>3 insta-fireskek this ship can do MRSI
>grab one of my mega containers from the armory>FR.25Nice, I don't know that I'll ever play this but neat
Any recommendation?
>>2096308Groningen if you're a DD playerI see people say decently positive things about Pommern and maybe Iwami, I don't have an opinion on Agir/Carnot/Polo
>>2096308Kearsarge is frankly amazing, even if you never launch a single plane. Iwami is a pretty well-rounded ship, can go full secondaries or just go hybrid with the module and 3 point skill. Tier 9 Kii, makes good money.
>>2096308I narrowed it down to 4 ships.
>>2096898Iwami
>>2096898It'd help if you had a playstyle you prefer.Groningen is a great gunboat DD, if you have Friesland then don't buy it since it's a clone but if not it's a very solid destroyer with a decently fun playstyle.Pommern is a German brawler with a good secondary focus and decent enough torps for brawling - but you have the disappointing German 380s. They're in large enough number to be useful, but they're not exactly what I'd consider an enjoyable gunnery experience.Iwami on the other hand has solid 410s with great dispersion/sigma that allows you to play mid to long range. You have the DECENT 100mm secondaries, but you don't have buffed secondaries and it doesn't have a brawling armor profile so it's not really meant for that. You also get torps that have a stupid amount of damage and 20km range if you want to dump them into caps/at islands while playing mid-range, or you can save them to shut down anyone trying to brawl you. I'm not sure what Marco Polo does, mid range SAP alpha striker with nasty 406 guns?
>>2096983I generally like all type of ships except subs and CVs and I already have Azuma for credit grinding, so I'm just looking for fun ships.
>>2096991I'd narrow it down to Groningen and Iwami, the other guy seems to really like Iwami so it can't be too bad and Japanese BBs are usually pretty solid (but I'm a DD main so I'm biased in all of this)If you still can't pick flip a coin.Heads Groningen, Tails Iwami.
DDs are fun but playing them always made me too excited.
While we're discussing coal ships, this is what I'm looking at in my armory.I'm thinking I'll probably buy Hayate since I'm a DD main and I actually really enjoy Asashio/Japanese 127s, so having a hybrid where the 127s have enough DPM to be useful outside of just alpha strike damage is appealing.But Marceau also seems fun if challenging to play, Tromp is kinda iffy since I don't like using gimmicky shit like airstrikes but I've heard it's a decently fun DD anyways.Khaba is a style of DD I enjoy, and I wish I would've just grinded the line when I had the chance, but I can't imagine it's worth coal over Delny/Kleber in the tech treeI'm also mildly considering Yoshino, I'm not sure if I need/want a large cruiser that spams HE from across the map but it's not a totally unappealing playstyle just something I think I have enough of already.Brisbane is on my radar but not sure it offers enough over something like Minotaur to be worth 310k coal, at least Defence is unique if totally out of my price range for the time being (would rather focus on buying two 260k coal ships)
>>2097070I don't think Yoshino is worth it IF you already have Azuma.
>>2097080Different poster from the other guy (he's already narrowed it down to a few ships and he's looking at T9 ships)My Japanese fleet looks like this, so it's not like there's no value in owning Yoshino. But it's also not like I don't have other long range kiting HE spammers like Henri IV, Nevsky and even Kushiro to some extent. Obviously Yoshino is a bit different since it's larger and bulkier and straddles the line between cruisers and BBs, but it's still the same fundamental sit in the back and smack people with HE gameplay unless the AP is actually really good and I'm underestimating the ship.
bourgogne or austin for funmaxxing in randoms? i already have plymouth for my CL needs. nothing else interests me including the new ships at the steel event.
>>2097195Hawaii is fat Austin with autism, watch a few videos on it (Flamuu and PQ both have videos now) before you write it off.
Anyone have both Illinois and Siegfried? I'm not sure which one I should get.
>>2097211there's no way for me to get 10k steel before the event ends, since i have to drag myself into playing once a day. which is why i only have these two as my option. hawaii is the only one what looks fun from the bunch but i dont have steel for it.
>>2097228Not even with coupon?
>>2097235with the coupon its 10k, otherwise 15k. its not like its over for me. like i said i only play once a day or a few games if i feel like it.
>>2097228I'd say there's actually way more time than you think before the event ends but if you're barely playing and not grinding dockyard/event pass/ranked then yeah it might be out of your reach
picked austin after all. spamming sap with MBRB is fun. i thought it had a radar for whatever reason, but guess not.
>>2097070Marceau and Hayate are both good, maybe even great. I would not get khaba.
>>2097217Siegfried hasn't been good in a long time and the new german pocket battleship line just make it worse. Illinois is a DM at tier 9 with BB armor, amazing.
Cars that require hands?
cruiser t8 and below
>ochakovlmoa
Holy fuck. What the fuck is Le Hardi. Haven't even known it's a thing until I saw in armory. How is this for steel lol?
I just got Kidd from this. Don't forget to do yours.
Why does this ship attracts so many braindead idiots?
Jesus christ Ashitaka is dogshitI got it from a santa container and I still feel ripped off, 31s reload on 10 rifles and they have German BB dispersion and awful AP that does no fucking damage despite being 410s.
Is EU server still the go to server?
How new player friendly is WoWS in 2025?I'm thinking about making a new account on a different server for reason.
>>2102362Because reddit and CCs hyped it up for a year. Because it is stupidly overpowered. Because it is an autoplaying secondary barge.
>accidentally load into random battles with a dogshit ship>bottom tier so I can't carry>top tier is two T9s>one of them is an Izumo with TEN (10) battles to his nameThis Christmas gift ship shit should've only been available to people who already have at least one tier 9, this is fucked
free TT trash is their marketing strategy
>>2106537He cost us the fucking match, he completely gave up a flank and forced me to blob with the team.We then lost on points because the enemy team spent the match with two free caps and we didn't - we were still up on ships despite this worthless chimp doing literally nothing but dying in one of two top tier ships on our teamnot even useful as a fucking meatshield ts pmo sm
What are some fun tier 9 ships? Wish tier 10s weren't expensive to run without premium time.
Nigga I already have B...>>2107604kita, alsace, duncan,
>>2107743You can give her to me. I never got around to getting her.
>>2107745Can you even gift anything in this slop?
>>2107750Only when you buying from the premium shop.
>>2107750Yes, but not ships you're getting from containers/have in your port.But if you were feeling generous, you can buy Atago from the premium shop for real money and select "Purchase as gift"Part of me kinda wishes there was a system to gift/trade ships among players but it would be super abusable so WG would never add it since it'd kill their bottom lineYou'd have tons of bot accounts grinding out dockyard ships/opening free christmas crates/doing events and whatever to accumulate premium ships and then selling them for like half the price WG charges.
Should I?
Man I was retarded and didn't read so I thought the free T9 ship was any one. Wanted to pick Adatara since I'm on Nagato and Yumihari is apparently an awful grind compared to Amagi. Fuck me for not reading.
>>2109804They aren't that generous anymore.
Elbing is pretty fun. It's like a stealthy light cruiser with no citadel and with great guns.The problem is... how do I deal with enemy destroyers?
Man, night MM is absolute fuck. In my last game the enemy team has 3 radar while we has none, and 2 out of 3 of their DDs has smoke + hydro
>>2110061You kinda don't, it's one of those DDs that isn't meant to deal with other DDs on its own. If they get spotted for you then hit them with AP if it'll arm and you can get rid of them pretty quickly but if it's a 1v1 you just have to try to bait them into pushing into their conceal around an island or other cover or they'll just kite you forever. You either support conventional DDs, go in with radar ships, or just sorta accept you're crippling a DD slot with a CL.
>>2110590Yeah, that's what I thought. Maybe I should just stick with Daring.
>>2110603They don't have the same role. You are just approaching the other one wrong.
It feels like confirmation bias since it apparently doesn't have any better sigma or dispersion values than Iowa, and slightly worse shell ballistics, but I have found Indiana's dispersion/gunnery to be surprisingly good.I'm just dicking around with it in Asyms but I'm surprised at how playable this ship is, all it's missing is a nice 8% speed boost to get it up to like 31kts top speed and it'd be perfect.
No way this cringe is my best fight this year
>>2109982Should I just pick Izumo and deal with wanting to die in Yumihari? Not really sure about going for Lepanto, Columbo looks cool and all with the 4x4 guns but idk.
>>2114062Columbo is fucking retarded, even without legmodDented ship that just chunks for 20k regardless of angling/positioning etcIf you want the meta pick then grab Lepanto
>>2110061>It's like a stealthy light cruiser with no citadel and with great guns.I hate it because it's missing one gigantic thing, DPM. If you aren't getting cits regularly, it's just worse than spamming AP with Grozovoi or Z-52.
>>2114062columbo is trash without legmod, don't bother if you can't get it.
Bit of a daft question but has there been any sort of FXP ship in the past few years? I'm sitting on like 3M and regret not buying a bunch of the fxp ships when I had the chance, now I'm just wondering if it's possible WG is ever going to do anything with FXP again or if I should just dump it all into Harugumo resets and pick up a research bureau ship.
>>2114426Nope, they added research bureau for FXP dumping.
>>2110859I know, but I think this guy >>2110859 is right. DD is very crucial to winning and choosing to play a DD that can't do DD jobs well is like gimping your team. Not saying they can't work though.It's also a reason why I like tanky cruisers with good gun. It's like you bring a pocket battleship that use a cruiser slot, thus giving your team advantage.
How's Iowa nowadays? I was thinking about getting her for historical reason.
I will take that. Is she any good though?
