These new German cruisers are pretty fun. How are you enjoying them?
I don't play loser nations.
dead game
>>2049417Weren't ~10% drop chance containers for a T8/9 ship the big santas from previous years?
>>2049936No.
I've been playing nothing but Knesebeck for the past 3 days. I even like it more than the tier 10 simply because it looks better.
>>2042888>Fantasy Paper Gacha Ship GameNo.
I'm getting Aki, wotabout youse goys?
>>2053299Probably Valpa, although I'm still considering dropping all of my voyage tokens into a Rhode Island instead.
>>2053809Understandable but I already get bored playing pan-america BBs, I think valpa is just too training wheels to be enjoyable. Personally I feel Rhode Island is wildly overrated. It's not bad, but I don't think its worth the huge price tag.
>>2053970>too training wheelsWhile I'll admit it's a zero skill ship I want something that I can run down and still maintain my 60% WR, gotta play the braindead broken shit if you want to carry these teamsI mean what else would I buy, the super Hinden or the super Atlanta? I'm not buying Aki since I already have some Japanese BBs and I refuse to play hybrids on principle.
Can you use a free tier 9 ship that they will give you to get research points?
>>2053978I aint judging, I'm just past the point of caring when it's usually down to how retarded my DDs are whether we win or lose. If I wanted to pad WR I'd just play DD all day. I'm more interested in fun and valp looks boring. Enjoy though.>>2054015Like research the tier 10 following it? Yes.
>>2054038I mean research bureau points for a reset line.
>>2054039Uh, if you reset that line beforehand? I assume so.
>>2054015You can reset the line, but you will only get RP for the Tier 9 and 10 if you used the T9 to skip grinding the line.
any of the black friday sale ships worth picking up?
>>2054612I think the deals are pretty mediocre unless you stumble on one of the discount coupons.
I don't get the event. If I get a B clone of a ship I already had, but got it outside of the blac kfriday event, I don't get the pair mission?
>>2056149It's retarded anyway. Why would you want a copy of a premium you already have?
*bombs u*
>>2058098Great, just great. This is exactly what this game needs.
>>2058098Can this thing cit light cruisers with that pen?
>>2058205I think HE needs the cit right below it since it can't go through multiple layers of armor.
>>2060589Hmm, so can't hit superstructure, can't hit turret roof. Do most cruisers have any more armor between the deck and the citadel roof? Guess I'd have to go look in the armor viewer.
>>2060762>do most cruisers have armor between the deck and cit roofYes, almost all of them do. You need the citadel to extend all the way up to the deck to not have that, and very few cruisers have citadels that large. In terms of cruisers that actually get deck cit - there are a few at low tiers that eat HE cits from regular caliber (152+) guns but I can't think of many if any cruisers that would eat HE pens through their decks in the tier 10 MM spread. I'm pretty sure even the really bad ones like Minotaur don't have deck level citadels.
So uh, mostly off-topic question, but who is Carnot named for? I tried wikiing Carnot and maybe it was the minister of war/interior for napoleon? But that's kinda meh. French president who was assassinated? Probably not.
Anhalt is so much fun, bros.
Subs still in and increasing in numbersHybrids still in and increasing in numbersNon-RTS skycancer still in and increasing in numbersDead game indeed
>>2067612yeahnonoOnly see lots of cvs at ~6, unless you're a SEAmonkey I guess. Why are people even mad at hybrids that aren't hildebrand? Just shoot their big ass box.
>>2067612Don't forget Dutchcancer
>>2067647They really need to nerf their plane hp by like 1/3. Fucking stupid they can fly into the best AA in the game and lose maybe 1 plane before drop.
>another smolly auction
Libertad or Schlieffen?
>>2069655schlieffen IMO, libertad is so fucking braindead boring. schleef lets you torp people too and hydro is nice to have.
>>2069655Libertad. Schlieffen gets focused down quickly for being a battlecruiser, meanwhile everyone runs from Libertad.
>>2069655liggertard is an affront to god and very faggy and gay
Should I move up to Adalbert? I heard some people say Manteuffel is the peak of the line.
LOL LMAO
>>2070507>98% chance to get NON PREMIUM containers>premium containers are less than 1% combinedLOL
>>2070507is this perhaps an out of season april fools joke?
i miss RTS carriers
you think you do, but you don't(but unironically)
>>2075147I used to play RTS CVs and man, what a system that was>everything is insanely skill-based for the CVs, proper strafing and mindgames is everything>whichever team has the better CV just wins, end of story, vast majority of surface ships have zero counterplay and get killed in a single cross drop like Soviet CVs but worse, only counterplay is your CV saving you with fighters but if he isn't the better player he's deplaned and de-fanged a few minutes into the matchThe only thing that I miss from the RTS CV era was the brief window of Worcester dominance where you had 6.9KM stealth AA on like 6km air detect and if you turned on DFAA the moment the CV reached your air detect you could evaporate his squads with next to no ability for him to counterplay. If he tries to press home a strike on you, he has DFAA scatter on his accuracy and it's a gamble if he hits you (although it was a very real thing for CVs to still manage to dev-strike full HP Worcesters, that how bullshit RTS CVs were) and if he tries to pull his planes out of your AA he'd lose 75-100% of his planes before they leave your AA bubble.
38k steel, 350k coalWhat do I do with them?
Buy Aki and KearsargeOr buy Lauria and Iwami
Are the free T9 ships from the new year event from any TT line or a selection?>>20787631
>>2079515There are 5 specific ships. lepanto, sejong, the petro 9 and 2 others I forgor.
>>2079566Izumo
>>2079515Selection of lines and the best option is going to be the Lepanto since that tech tree sucks ass and only having to grind the Lepanto to get to the one good ship in the tree (Columbo) is a nice skipSejong line isn't bad, Izumo line isn't that bad, Riga line is pretty fucking strong and not worth skipping past Tallinn when grinding up the line also gets you to Nevsky which is good enough to be banned from tournaments, Fletcher is pretty fucking pointless when Gearing has fallen off so hard it isn't even funny and the other USN DD line is probably way better So the only line that really makes sense is Lepanto to skip a truly awful FXP bait tech treeLepanto >>> Izumo > Sejong > Riga > Fletcher in order of priority imo
Got Neustra B. How do I play this?
>>2080473Tier IX Premium Russian destroyer Neustrashimy is very similar to Tier X Russian destroyer Grozovoi in the regular tech tree. While Neustrashimy has one less turret than Grozovoi, Neustrashimy trades the missing firepower for better concealment. She is very much a jack-of-all-trades, marrying the gunboat aspects of the Soviet destroyer line with Japanese-like stealth and American torpedo performance.The most obvious characteristic of Neustrashimy is her lack of main battery punch. With only four barrels, a Neustrashimy salvo lacks in power compared to the majority of her contemporaries at Tier IX. On the other hand, Neustrashimy’s concealment is outstanding, besting even Tier X Japanese destroyer Shimakaze. Neustrashimy boasts some of the best torpedoes among all Russian destroyers. The real strength of Neustrashimy lies in her consumables set. Like Grozovoi, Neustrashimy has a fantastic array of consumables that afford her a lot of flexibility. This allows Neustrashimy to play near the front lines, supporting pushes into objectives, whilst having options to deter or disengage from combat when it becomes unfavorable. If timed correctly, the combined use of Specialized Repair TeamsWhile active, restores a percentage of the ship's health points each second. and Engine BoostWhile active, increases a ship's speed by a fixed percentage. can increase her longevity in battle, where she can use her advantages to harass enemy counter-pushes, hunt down enemy ships, or steal back capture points at her leisure. In summary, this hybrid-platform allows a lot of freedom on the high seas.
Thank you chat gpt
>>2080669if you wanted a real answer you'd go watch Potato Quality or Flamuu or whoever the fuckIt's a hybrid with solid torps that has a cockroach heal, so you pick fights that you'd never win against ships that can't heal and whittle them down over the course of multiple engagements while spamming torps at shit.You have Russian 130s so you can open up the gap and still pound them good until they disengage, just don't get caught with your pants down with your heal on cooldown.
>>2080669I pulled it from the wiki actually, if you're too lazy to read even two paragraphs I'm not sure why you bothered asking.
Having a hard time deciding if I want Hawaii or Bremen, I have just enough steel to grab one of the two.My initial thought is Hawaii because it has braindead Smolensk tier gun arcs, stupid range, stupid DPM, a ridiculously tanky hull and your tradeoff is that you burn down if you open water (on a ship that can swap to Atlanta arcs and sit next to an island to farm) and I guess you don't have torps if someone rushes your island but I mean you have a fucking radar so that's on you. Add in stupidly good AA for a cruiser to get CV cunts to fuck off and I'm really not seeing much of a downside here.But Bremen also looks like a very consistent, reliable swiss army knife of a ship and I'm not sure if it'd be more rewarding to have a ship with a stronger armor profile and more of a German kiting playstyle. I don't have Hindenburg and probably won't grind it any time soon but I'm wondering if Hinden/Clausewitz offer a similar enough playstyle that Bremen is nice but not a must-have whereas what can really compare to Hawaii?Neither Aki or I-56 enter into the equation, I have Musashi so I don't need another Japanese BB and hybrids are gay anyways and who the FUCK plays submarinesI've also been considering Valparaiso but honestly I think I enjoy cruisers more than battleships and both Bremen and Hawaii look compelling enough to skip Valp.
Hawaii and Bremen are both boring fire spammers. There are plenty of TT ships which do what they do already. I don't think Hawaii will be better at DD hunting than a lot of other options available for free either.So get Le Havre.
>>2082914are there actually people buying Le Memevre when it's an uncommon that'll end up in the regular shop?
>>2079659Should've added the spaniard cruiser.>>2082150They are all gay shit. And Bremen prolly has better hull than base hindi.
>>2082922idk I'm just trolling, I don't find either firespammer interesting though.>>2083128Spanish cruiser is too new, they want everyone to have to grind through the terrible lower ones. Bremen is clausewitz hull right? Yeah that's better than most cruisers.
literally first small crate wtf
>>2083493I got research bureau points. What did you get?
>>2083500Red boosters. But 10% on a steel ship is a crazy drop. Gonna flood the game with it.
>>2083528>10% on a steel ship is a crazy dropYes, but we didn't get a ship. Guess we used all of our luck to get Golden Gift boxes.
>>2083493meanwhile I opened three and got Rio de Janeiro :(
Kii or Anhalt?
>>2089325anhalt
Should I get the Blyskawica '44?
Should I get the Surcouf?
>>2089325Kii for sure. Anhalt is an undergunned barge.>>2089818I don't think a smokeless, heal-less DD is good, so I would say no. I guess if you're doing the salvage thing and have a huge excess of some resource fine, but it's very pricey.>>2090486No, we have too many subs as is.
Hmm... 1 Santa ultra or 2 Santa mega?
>>20919785+20+40+3What's the rest? Ships and gold container?Anyway they're roughly equal, I think you go ultra unless you are buying in bulk, in which case you can buy enough of the megas to hit pity on rolling a ship.
11 giga crates and I got a fucking picardie only. Shame. Not even premium time, not even any XP economic bonuses.
>strasbourgLmao. Although this looks like Richie but better dpm?
Bought one ultra, got Munchen. At least It's worth the money, I guess.
>>2092202It's Dunkerque but a tier higher with RLB. Pretty bad. I got one gold container from 7 megas with red boosters, nothing else. Got a Rodney from a bunch of smalls. Oh well.
>firing on a ship at 12.3km with Hawaii>switch back to regular mode so I can continue to fire on him as he leaves my range>my arced salvo hits him at the same time as my non-arced salvo due to the travel time difference>3 insta-fireskek this ship can do MRSI
>grab one of my mega containers from the armory>FR.25Nice, I don't know that I'll ever play this but neat
Any recommendation?
>>2096308Groningen if you're a DD playerI see people say decently positive things about Pommern and maybe Iwami, I don't have an opinion on Agir/Carnot/Polo
>>2096308Kearsarge is frankly amazing, even if you never launch a single plane. Iwami is a pretty well-rounded ship, can go full secondaries or just go hybrid with the module and 3 point skill. Tier 9 Kii, makes good money.
>>2096308I narrowed it down to 4 ships.
>>2096898Iwami
>>2096898It'd help if you had a playstyle you prefer.Groningen is a great gunboat DD, if you have Friesland then don't buy it since it's a clone but if not it's a very solid destroyer with a decently fun playstyle.Pommern is a German brawler with a good secondary focus and decent enough torps for brawling - but you have the disappointing German 380s. They're in large enough number to be useful, but they're not exactly what I'd consider an enjoyable gunnery experience.Iwami on the other hand has solid 410s with great dispersion/sigma that allows you to play mid to long range. You have the DECENT 100mm secondaries, but you don't have buffed secondaries and it doesn't have a brawling armor profile so it's not really meant for that. You also get torps that have a stupid amount of damage and 20km range if you want to dump them into caps/at islands while playing mid-range, or you can save them to shut down anyone trying to brawl you. I'm not sure what Marco Polo does, mid range SAP alpha striker with nasty 406 guns?
>>2096983I generally like all type of ships except subs and CVs and I already have Azuma for credit grinding, so I'm just looking for fun ships.
>>2096991I'd narrow it down to Groningen and Iwami, the other guy seems to really like Iwami so it can't be too bad and Japanese BBs are usually pretty solid (but I'm a DD main so I'm biased in all of this)If you still can't pick flip a coin.Heads Groningen, Tails Iwami.
DDs are fun but playing them always made me too excited.
While we're discussing coal ships, this is what I'm looking at in my armory.I'm thinking I'll probably buy Hayate since I'm a DD main and I actually really enjoy Asashio/Japanese 127s, so having a hybrid where the 127s have enough DPM to be useful outside of just alpha strike damage is appealing.But Marceau also seems fun if challenging to play, Tromp is kinda iffy since I don't like using gimmicky shit like airstrikes but I've heard it's a decently fun DD anyways.Khaba is a style of DD I enjoy, and I wish I would've just grinded the line when I had the chance, but I can't imagine it's worth coal over Delny/Kleber in the tech treeI'm also mildly considering Yoshino, I'm not sure if I need/want a large cruiser that spams HE from across the map but it's not a totally unappealing playstyle just something I think I have enough of already.Brisbane is on my radar but not sure it offers enough over something like Minotaur to be worth 310k coal, at least Defence is unique if totally out of my price range for the time being (would rather focus on buying two 260k coal ships)
>>2097070I don't think Yoshino is worth it IF you already have Azuma.
>>2097080Different poster from the other guy (he's already narrowed it down to a few ships and he's looking at T9 ships)My Japanese fleet looks like this, so it's not like there's no value in owning Yoshino. But it's also not like I don't have other long range kiting HE spammers like Henri IV, Nevsky and even Kushiro to some extent. Obviously Yoshino is a bit different since it's larger and bulkier and straddles the line between cruisers and BBs, but it's still the same fundamental sit in the back and smack people with HE gameplay unless the AP is actually really good and I'm underestimating the ship.
bourgogne or austin for funmaxxing in randoms? i already have plymouth for my CL needs. nothing else interests me including the new ships at the steel event.
>>2097195Hawaii is fat Austin with autism, watch a few videos on it (Flamuu and PQ both have videos now) before you write it off.
Anyone have both Illinois and Siegfried? I'm not sure which one I should get.
>>2097211there's no way for me to get 10k steel before the event ends, since i have to drag myself into playing once a day. which is why i only have these two as my option. hawaii is the only one what looks fun from the bunch but i dont have steel for it.
>>2097228Not even with coupon?
>>2097235with the coupon its 10k, otherwise 15k. its not like its over for me. like i said i only play once a day or a few games if i feel like it.
>>2097228I'd say there's actually way more time than you think before the event ends but if you're barely playing and not grinding dockyard/event pass/ranked then yeah it might be out of your reach
picked austin after all. spamming sap with MBRB is fun. i thought it had a radar for whatever reason, but guess not.
>>2097070Marceau and Hayate are both good, maybe even great. I would not get khaba.
>>2097217Siegfried hasn't been good in a long time and the new german pocket battleship line just make it worse. Illinois is a DM at tier 9 with BB armor, amazing.
Cars that require hands?
cruiser t8 and below
>ochakovlmoa
Holy fuck. What the fuck is Le Hardi. Haven't even known it's a thing until I saw in armory. How is this for steel lol?
I just got Kidd from this. Don't forget to do yours.
Why does this ship attracts so many braindead idiots?
Jesus christ Ashitaka is dogshitI got it from a santa container and I still feel ripped off, 31s reload on 10 rifles and they have German BB dispersion and awful AP that does no fucking damage despite being 410s.
Is EU server still the go to server?
How new player friendly is WoWS in 2025?I'm thinking about making a new account on a different server for reason.
>>2102362Because reddit and CCs hyped it up for a year. Because it is stupidly overpowered. Because it is an autoplaying secondary barge.
>accidentally load into random battles with a dogshit ship>bottom tier so I can't carry>top tier is two T9s>one of them is an Izumo with TEN (10) battles to his nameThis Christmas gift ship shit should've only been available to people who already have at least one tier 9, this is fucked
free TT trash is their marketing strategy
>>2106537He cost us the fucking match, he completely gave up a flank and forced me to blob with the team.We then lost on points because the enemy team spent the match with two free caps and we didn't - we were still up on ships despite this worthless chimp doing literally nothing but dying in one of two top tier ships on our teamnot even useful as a fucking meatshield ts pmo sm
What are some fun tier 9 ships? Wish tier 10s weren't expensive to run without premium time.
Nigga I already have B...>>2107604kita, alsace, duncan,
>>2107743You can give her to me. I never got around to getting her.
>>2107745Can you even gift anything in this slop?
>>2107750Only when you buying from the premium shop.
>>2107750Yes, but not ships you're getting from containers/have in your port.But if you were feeling generous, you can buy Atago from the premium shop for real money and select "Purchase as gift"Part of me kinda wishes there was a system to gift/trade ships among players but it would be super abusable so WG would never add it since it'd kill their bottom lineYou'd have tons of bot accounts grinding out dockyard ships/opening free christmas crates/doing events and whatever to accumulate premium ships and then selling them for like half the price WG charges.
Should I?
Man I was retarded and didn't read so I thought the free T9 ship was any one. Wanted to pick Adatara since I'm on Nagato and Yumihari is apparently an awful grind compared to Amagi. Fuck me for not reading.
>>2109804They aren't that generous anymore.
Elbing is pretty fun. It's like a stealthy light cruiser with no citadel and with great guns.The problem is... how do I deal with enemy destroyers?
Man, night MM is absolute fuck. In my last game the enemy team has 3 radar while we has none, and 2 out of 3 of their DDs has smoke + hydro
>>2110061You kinda don't, it's one of those DDs that isn't meant to deal with other DDs on its own. If they get spotted for you then hit them with AP if it'll arm and you can get rid of them pretty quickly but if it's a 1v1 you just have to try to bait them into pushing into their conceal around an island or other cover or they'll just kite you forever. You either support conventional DDs, go in with radar ships, or just sorta accept you're crippling a DD slot with a CL.
>>2110590Yeah, that's what I thought. Maybe I should just stick with Daring.
>>2110603They don't have the same role. You are just approaching the other one wrong.
It feels like confirmation bias since it apparently doesn't have any better sigma or dispersion values than Iowa, and slightly worse shell ballistics, but I have found Indiana's dispersion/gunnery to be surprisingly good.I'm just dicking around with it in Asyms but I'm surprised at how playable this ship is, all it's missing is a nice 8% speed boost to get it up to like 31kts top speed and it'd be perfect.
No way this cringe is my best fight this year
>>2109982Should I just pick Izumo and deal with wanting to die in Yumihari? Not really sure about going for Lepanto, Columbo looks cool and all with the 4x4 guns but idk.
>>2114062Columbo is fucking retarded, even without legmodDented ship that just chunks for 20k regardless of angling/positioning etcIf you want the meta pick then grab Lepanto
>>2110061>It's like a stealthy light cruiser with no citadel and with great guns.I hate it because it's missing one gigantic thing, DPM. If you aren't getting cits regularly, it's just worse than spamming AP with Grozovoi or Z-52.
>>2114062columbo is trash without legmod, don't bother if you can't get it.
Bit of a daft question but has there been any sort of FXP ship in the past few years? I'm sitting on like 3M and regret not buying a bunch of the fxp ships when I had the chance, now I'm just wondering if it's possible WG is ever going to do anything with FXP again or if I should just dump it all into Harugumo resets and pick up a research bureau ship.
>>2114426Nope, they added research bureau for FXP dumping.
>>2110859I know, but I think this guy >>2110859 is right. DD is very crucial to winning and choosing to play a DD that can't do DD jobs well is like gimping your team. Not saying they can't work though.It's also a reason why I like tanky cruisers with good gun. It's like you bring a pocket battleship that use a cruiser slot, thus giving your team advantage.
How's Iowa nowadays? I was thinking about getting her for historical reason.
I will take that. Is she any good though?
>>2119722Should still be decent. I've been playing a bunch of Indiana lately and it's surprisingly good (in Asym, anyways)The guns in specific do a lot of work, not sure how much of that is the 27s reload and how much is bias but on paper it should be a bit worse than Iowa.All of that to say you should still be able to make Iowa work.
>>2119722She's fine, gotten numerous buffs over the years. Faster/better heal, still good guns.
finally something rare
>>2128116I want to be jealous but I don't know if I really feel like Kami/Gremy are even worth playing nowadays
I just got Aki from a crate. These are most of the ships I got during this event.
>>2130719I want to roll another steel ship from a golden crate (ideally Bremen) but I don't want to sink a ton of cash into a lot of crates
>>2069655Libtard if you're a metaslave faggot. Schlieffen otherwise.
>>2054038>If I wanted to pad WR I'd just play DD all day.It says a lot about the average modern World of Warships player if the mere act of playing the Destroyer yourself nets you more consistent victories than if you didn't.
>>2130846>modernAs a DD Mafia since Beta my brother in christ it's always been this wayLike 80-85% of DD players in this game are pure dogshit and it's always been the most influential class so playing DD remotely competently tends to be free wins.Of course CVs and Subs have taken away from that a bit but not every match has CVs/Subs and they still don't completely negate a DD's impact, just mitigate it.
how do I solve this terminal skill issue?>my petroabysmal shotgun>everyone else's petrorailgun niggerlaser
>>2130994that's why the best world of warships players by winrate are all carrier players, right?like, literally nothing but carrier mains all the way down
glad you can't read and out yourself as s a retard
you said DDs are the most influential class and that's the most retarded nonsense I've ever read; CVs are, obviously
>>2131297By what metric? RTS CVs that were literally completely fucking braindead gamebreaking and won by massive skill differential, or current CVs that aren't even close to as influential on the match despite still being questionably balanced?I'd like to know your metric for "best players" anyways, the last time I looked at an actually decent leaderboard you had a handful of retardedly high WR players in CVs (most of their matches in RTS CVs) with the vast majority of the top 100 being DD players and a few cruiser/BB players.
>>2131297They play in divs, solo winrate is dominated by DDs.
I've recently come back to wows, I really enjoy DD but got nothing but a Fletcher and some T7/8 premiums from boxes, what would be the the META lines to grind?
>>2130994That's fair. I wasn't playing DDs a whole lot back in the day. I've always been a BB monkey until relatively recently.
>>2132244Attilio Regolo, Daring, Shimakaze, Cassard and Yueyang are various degrees of meta. Pick whichever you like the style of most. If you have coal Hayate is also good.
>>2132690>Regolo, Shima, Cassard>Meta
>>2132244Any gunboats that released after Harugumo line are good.
>>2132244Depends on WHAT DD playstyle you wantArguably torpboats aren't meta in any way and you MUST play gunboats, but if you enjoy torpboat/hybrid there are still decent options to be hadThe new USN DD line is pretty okay (peaks at T9) if you like gunboats and are good with the gimmicky smoke mechanicGdansk line is crazy good but also not exactly new player friendlyDaring is still pretty good even if the low speed does hamper itI think Yueyang is finally in a better place with the buffs its received over the years to the point it's basically just a Gearing but better
>>2132773What do you consider meta? I'm suggesting them with meta being "good in randoms". Some dude with a t9 isn't going into clan battles.
Fartu has released the DD tierlist, no need to arguehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DgmcsADJVw
>>2135284flamu is a damage farmer, here's the proper list:https://youtu.be/x6ldEk0Y08k?si=CQHrmL7DNxIPikoI
>>2135830>some literal random nobodyokay>Laffey is badalright closed the video guy might be retarded
Laffey is the one with burst?
>>2135958world's smartest flamu simpgood bitch, don't think for yourself>>2135960The burst which shaves .3 seconds off just firing normally with no other bonuses, yes. She's just a worse gearing.
>>2136229It's a god tier car with a superheal and the best smoke in the game and niggers are like "it's a worse gearing bro"
>>2135958if you watch his laffey video he concedes that he rates it so lowly because he hates the way that it plays personallyit is stupid though, all of the superheal DDs are objectively S tier for solo randoms
>>2136966It has limited smoke, not best smoke.Other DDs have super healsIt has trash torps, trash guns and is slow. Almost all other DDs can just walk away.Lushun, Daring, Alvaro, Vampire, Ragnar and Hull all smash it.
>>2141056It has insanely good smoke that allows you to control vision. Do I think they should buff the duration by another like 40 seconds so you have some room to farm when the tech tree gets 200s of smoke? Yeah, 120s of duration on Laffey would probably help a lot.I'd probably also buff the burst fire to a 20s reload and if possible reduce the interval to 0.5s between salvos, and if you really wanted to dig into the bag and make it a proper 2025 ship and a real monster I'd give it Austin HE shell weight/velocity so the guns are effective all the way out to the 12.4km max range and it's a genuinely terrifying threat. But to call it D tier when there's plenty of stuff it totally shits on and it has a pretty decent toolkit is insane. I mean if you 1v1 a Gearing the dude is losing that fight 9/10 times and the 1 time he wins is because you sat broadside and ate his torps. Actually I'd probably add that to the Laffey buffs if we're really going at it - 8km to 12km torps, so the ship has a unified effective range out to 12km and can play around radar cruisers since the torps are otherwise the same as Gearing's pretty well liked torps. But to say the ship is bad right now is cope. It's just a solid, strong DD and not a powercreep monster.
>>2141829It should be buffed those ways and I got tricked into buying her so hey, good for me. If you give her 12km torps, a purpose to her burst and more smoke time she would absolutely be better than Gearing, so top half, maybe top quarter DD. But she doesn't have those things so she has an extremely small and awkward niche. Is she fine against your average DD? Yeah, but she suffers badly against some DDs and she's not even that good at farming due to short torps and limited total smoke time. I agree that almost any DD with a heal is "good" but she has one of the worst packages to go with that heal of all DDs.
Talk about DDs, Hull or Sherman?
>>2142246Sherman is alright but has poor conceal + is clumsy and slow.It's a little like a Daring in that sense (you have less usable torps but they are not as useless as people make them out to be, I get plenty of hits with them but you cannot defend yourself with them) You don't get a heal like Daring which is a downside, and you have long duration USN smokes that require you to anchor in one place to farm instead of being mobile. You do have insane SAP and a 5km hydro though so you're not useless as a DD hunter but you get punished even harder than Daring for overextending and WILL die if you try to cap contest early game.Can't speak to Hull as I don't own it (but will probably get it when I finally get the RP)I don't know that you can compare the two though since they use totally different resources, I still think Sherman is probably among the better coal ships you can buy and I'd recommend it as long as you know what you're getting yourself into (mid-range farming gunboat that can be very nasty as a DD hunter in the lategame or opportunistically midgame)
Are any of the coal IJN ships good? I still have my 50% coupon to burn.
>>2143052Atago and Maybe Hayate.
>>2142246Sherman is boring, Hull is fun.>>2143052Iwani, Hayate and Azuma are all good.
I think I'll retire my Daring.What tier 10 DDs would you recommend for Random?
Kleber or Gdansk?
>>2143096legmod gearing
It's kinda amazing to me how solid Des Moines still is for a ship that's been in the game since launch.Amazing AP, consistent HE, great DPM, solid enough hull (even if everything overmatches it now), good maneuverability for an island camper, it's just an incredibly solid ship that still does work.
>>2144091It's awesome until the armada of braindead airplane boats decide you don't get to play the game anymore.
>>2144145Yeah but that's a LOT of shit and at least DM gets decent enough AA for a cruiser with the option to run DFAAIt's also an island cruiser so it suffers slightly less than open water flankers do.Honestly I'd give it a tiny buff by moving DFAA to a separate slot so it gets hydro+DFAA like Worcester does.
lol
>>2146549It is generous)))Stop complaining)))cannot be of waitings for the Christmas reward to be one small container)))after all, mega container is being too greedy)))
>>2146549We will get mega satan crate for the 25th, trust the plan.
Champagne is pretty fun. I love battlecruisers with accurate guns. Are there any other ships similar to her? Tsurugi?
Should I grind Daring or Gdansk? Which one do you think is better? (in Random)
>>2147707You said it was going to be a mega...
How the hell is he so lucky?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzK3YlrAGB0
>>2149960you got trik'd
Someone give me a good clan to join, i'm a CBT bro with a 59% WR
>>2151443join HOTEL
>>2151443RDDT_17
>>2151736>>2151860ded clans, try again.
finallyI've unlocked all tech tree shipstook way too long
>>2152974now buy them, that's the actual difficult part.
>>2152974now reset them all for research bureau points
Whats the most broken coal ship
>all blowoutsIf WG sell premium MM I'd buy it.
So ive come back from a 10 year hiatus at urging of fren and was awarded 50000 dubloons, like 150 million creds and a million free exp for being a beta tester. I dont know what the fuck i should do with any of it. I used to play the shit out of tier 4 carrier cause top down torp blasting was "fun", and tried a couple games and now you directly control the planes (neat) but only fire like 2 torps\bombs\rockets at a time which is dogshit. What the fuck should i be doing?
>>2156738if you want to be a real cv cancer player then take your fxp and research the Russian CV line (Nakhimov, or even just Pobeda)their gimmick is the entire flight attacks at once so you get stupid amount of ordinance spammed out and you get to ignore AA instead of getting whittled down trying to make multiple attack runsFranklin D Roosevelt also has large torp squads but is steel so you probably can't afford it, Malta might have large squads as a coal CV? I don't really play a lot of CV so I can't tell you which skycancer is the best.
Is this game fun if I play war thunder? The healthbars and cartoon graphics are very offputting. I just want to play the yamato and submarines
>>2158701If you're okay with >Arkaden the gameplay is arguably way better, at least at a core mechanical level (ignoring all the really cancerous powercreep and pay to win shit) They're a lot more tactical depth and the gameplay isn't slow as fucking molasses. Submarines are kind of a weird class that isn't really that fun to play or play against, Yamato is solid enough.Potato Quality just did a Japanese tech tree focus if you're up for an hour of gameplay to see how the entire tree plays and what you're in for as you grindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQbg15KaJSkFlamuu's an alright source for gameplay too, he's kind of a dickhead and sometimes he's wrong about shit (he argued with me with a straight face that Massa was a mediocre ship at the time of its release) but he has hands and usually his opinion on cars is alrighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DCa2dgUeFoActually if you create an account and log in before January 1st, you can get Izumo for free right now and skip 90% of the tech tree grind.I don't know if I recommend actually jumping in at T9, but it would save you weeks of grinding towards Yamato even if you decide to grind something else like US BBs to get a feel for the game/learn at lower tiers.
>>2158701>I just want to play the yamato and submarinesThen it's fine. I dislike WT naval very much, it's beautiful and the detailed x-rays are cool, but the gameplay is simply atrocious. Warships is not as simple as say, arcade WT ground or air, so I think it can still be fun.Also I don't think it's cartoony at all, maybe you mean the silly captain they use as a mascot? The models are not quite as detailed as WT, but still very good.
>game automatically changes the battle type from Asym to Randoms>load into match>CV nigger tortures me the entire match and makes the game literally unplayablefun
Yamato or Bungo?
>>2160987In 2026, Bungo has the more appealing gimmick I'd say. Yamato is arguably only still worth it with the legendary mod, although I'm probably really biased by owning Musashi.
Forgot to buy 360 days premium....
I got a 50% off anything in the store coupon, what should I get. Thinking of just getting a huge doubloon pack desu, I have additional coupons in the doubloon shop.Any recs?
>>2160405>game automatically changes the battle type from Asym to RandomsHoly fugg, and I thought I did go crazy.
>>2163875No, WG does it on purpose to force people into the randoms queue so the game won't be totally dead. Not sure what triggers it but it's fucking annoying because Asym ships/builds are not necessarily what I want to play in randoms.
>>2042888Not interested in them
I wish WG would just hurry up and tell me if I can afford Surcouf or not
...I'm running low.
I'm not going to lie I'm super fucking interested to see how this NY event plays out considering one of the reward ships is R Lauria. Not really a fan of having another dozen fucking tech tree clones with retarded names in the game but getting my hands on a T10 steel ship for free is definitely a really interesting prospect, would be awesome if it's possible to get the Navarin clone in addition to it without spending a fortune.
>>2174705>this NY eventWhat event?
>>2177600https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/closed-test-151-lunar-new-year-2026-unbreakable-front-and-more
>>2177769Thank you.
been playing on and off for a long while but it's a fun game and i have a little money nowwhat bote to buy?consider i am still bad at the game
>>2177821Just wait for the LNY event >>2174705 and grab some premiums there.If you really want to spend might as well gamble on satan crates r/nI'm honestly not sure what premium I'd outright shill to you, you'd have to give me your favorite tech tree line and consider you can pick up a premium ship in the coal shop without spending money.
>Surcouf salvage event has three premiumsOh, I'm definitely not going to be able to afford this fucker am I?
>join clan to maybe do NBs, CBs and leech off of port bonuses>shortly after joining they make a new rule mandating being in VC while you're logged into the gameNigga, fuck no. I don't want to be forced to sit in your VC while solo playing asym battles to unwind from work.Anyone got a good clan to join that doesn't suck balls and doesn't have gay rules?
>>2182370What server?
>>2182392NA
>>2182418How's NA server? I heard they have even less players than Asia.
I have enough credits for two ships but which should I buy first?
Is the game fun yet? Haven't played since they removed top down RTS CVs.
Wait, they're seriously giving out R. Lauria for free? Guess I gotta come back to grab it.>>2182842No, they added subs which are 1,000 times worse than any plane.>>2182511Schlieffen and Jinan. Unless you are crippled, then get Libertad.
>>2183141Yep, if you haven't checked the blog you get Dmitry Pozharsky in the same track.Not sure if you'll be able to run up the other Italian track for the Giuseppe Verdi and Marco Polo as well or if that'll be too many points.There are a few other interesting options like a premium Petro that a lot of people will probably go for and the track with the Navarin and Z-52.I'm curious what the compensation will be for Optio since I already own it from the battle pass, probably credits but doubloons would be really nice
>>2183141You don't understand, I quit BECAUSE they reworked CVs... stomping low ranked idiots with no AA with omnidirectional torp spreads was so much fun.
>>2183526The reworked CVs are even stronger. AA barely does anything and your planes now immune to AA when attacking so you can always get at least one drop and your CVs can regenerate planes so you will never run out of them.
>>2183526You still do that, short of flying into flak cloudsGrab a Soviet CV and you can blow your entire load into a guy in one go instead of having to faff about trying to drop him multiple times
>>2183141>Unless you are crippled, then get Libertad.People really hate Libertad huh.
>>2183615And they say Russian bias isn't real.
>>2184188Did you know? Soviet had the strongest aircraft carrier in WW2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3XdHLLJaog
>>2184155I mean it's simply braindead. You can't get cit, secondaries aim for you and it's fast. Only real weakness is torps/planes but that's 90% of BBs. The pan-am captain doesn't help with the accusations.
Wow, Kremlin is actually really fucking bad.The guns are surprisingly good but you literally can't use your rear turret because it has a paper thin belt and if you aren't at autobounce angles you eat 5-6 cits and lose half your ship in seconds. I'm not talking punished for being flat broadside I mean the second you give even the tiniest sliver of non-autobounce side you instantly get devstruck.
someone talk me into or out of getting the da barbiano. she looks awesome.
>>2186132She can't fight DDs since her concealment, maneuver and arcs are shit. She's a citadel-less light cruiser taking a DD slot. Which is good for damage farming but bad for winrate. Personally, I rarely see them do anything impactful.
Finally going to have enough RB points soon, probably going to grab Hull but still curious if any of the other ships are worthwhilePart of me almost wants Slava but not sure how she is in the big two six
>>2186268Irrefutably good tier: Ohio, Illinois, IrresistiblePotentially good tier: Slava, Colbert, HullLooks nice tier: Sicilia
>sold all my ships in an attempt to quit the game>came crawling back a few months later anyway>now I have to grind credits to get all my ships backIn hindsight that was pretty stupid of me.
>>2186766>can only recover one premium ship per 30 daysI'll never get them all back...Don't be like me. Remember to never rage quit.
>>2186797jesus lol I quit for a year or two but I just uninstalled the game instead of nuking my harbor
Anything else interesting?
>>2187125Cossack was and should still be really good, I'd put it above Repulse. Optio is kinda whatever and you MIGHT be able to re-grab it from the upcoming event with leftover tokens if you really want it. Honestly this is one of those things that, I don't know where your credits went or whatnot but if you haven't started playing yet I'd contact WG and lie and tell them your account was compromised and the person deleted all of your ships.See if you can just straight up get them to rollback your account and recover all 40 something ships in one go.
Carriers are fair and balanse)))
>>2187626going back to look at old CV mains is really something elsethis used to be achievable solo
I know Hargumo line is the best for grinding RB points, but what is the second best? Because I'm tired of of having Kitakaze on permanent reset.
>>2187725Never mind, found it.
How dead is the NA server? Haven't played in years. Can I switch my account to another server? Will I be raped by ping and sweatlords?
Surcouf pricing availablehttps://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/salvage-for-victory-surcouf-resources-breakdown>I only have 62% of the progress even if I burn all of my boostersouchnot even sure santa crates would salvage it, you really need to have a ton of coal saved up since the booster rates are really shitty
does salem have an armor hole? I got cit through the bow by bourg HE
199 super containers without a single ship. WG really gutted the SC hard.
>>2190012Yeah, it's grim. I remember getting my Giulio Cesare from a SC, it used to be rare to get a SC but super exciting because you often got something good.Now getting an SC is just a mundane chore.
what am I in for?
>>2066295There's a ton of famous Carnot and lot of stuff named after them. I never know which one it is. You also have the one who created the second law of thermodynamics.
>>2192458Yeah I just picked out the most likely(which still seemed improbable). French naming scheme is usually cool adjectives or generals/admirals/marshals so I assumed it wouldn't be a civilian. IDK if it's even a napkin design or a WG original desu, they pick some really random names for a lot of nations.
I know the current dockyard isn't even over yet, but I am curious what the next dockyard will be already
>>2042888Should I unlock lvl V and get out of noob games or am I not ready yet.
>>2195285You should still be in protected MM even if you get a higher tier ship, but rush up the tiers to like T7 or even T8 imoYou might want to stop at T7 to actually learn the game, it's kinda a nice sweet spot without too much toxic garbage but if you're running up a cruiser line T7 cruisers are kinda hit and miss so you might want to learn at T6/T8 depending on the line.If you've figured out which line you want to commit to I'll tell you which ship to stop at and learn the game in, but you're 11 games in so I don't blame you if you're undecidedAlso you can play asyms at like T6 which is a harder PvE mode, still not too hard to win but will force you to learn positioning/angling etc and prime you a bit for randoms.
>>2195568I'm running ussr/french cruisers and plan on playing ussr subs once unlocked.
>>2195568>>2195670Shit I'm dumb, I meant destroyers, not cruisers. Torpedoes go boom.
>>2195670>subsbest of luck to you, I got U-4501 from my anniversary crate and it's fucking miserable to play in randoms>USSR cruisersBudyonny is pretty solid to learn in, definitely move past Kotovsky. Shschors isn't the absolute worst but I'd probably just push to either Chapayev or Tallinn. Chapa/Nevsky line is faster, long ranged kiters that spam HE and Tallinn/Petropavlovsk are medium-range brawlers with large guns and a focus on AP with improved pen angles. Both lines are good imo, I would grind both T8s from Shchors. For French, Emile Bertin is a really weird T5 with low DPM that requires surprisingly advanced game knowledge to do well in. La Gal is a much more standard cruiser at T6, definitely better to learn cruiser gameplay because Emile plays a lot more like a large DD. Algerie is fucking terrible, get past that as quickly as possible. The Henri line is similar to Nevsky in that you play a long-range high speed kiting role for the most part although you do have 240mm guns and a reload booster so you can absolutely punish people with AP and play more mid-ranged if you have good map sense. You're just in a really shitty position if your MBRB and engine boost are on cooldown at mid-range so you have to balance aggression with passive kiting. I haven't played the Marseille line yet to give you a full rundown on it, but it looks like a mid-range battlecruiser line that focuses on having nasty AP potential at the cost of having absolutely dogshit HE.
>>2195689>DDsMinsk is, or at least was, a lot of fun. Definitely recommend stopping here and learning kiting gunboat DDs here until you unlock both Kiev and Ognevoi. Not sure if I recommend Delny in the big 26 but Grozovoi is still a very comfortable jack of all trades ship that can do a little bit of everything. For French DDs, Vauquelin is not an easy ship to play and it took me a good amount of time to come around on it but it's a very solid place to learn the Kleber line. Kleber's an interesting ship because I honestly see it as a long-ranged kited HE spammer since CVs and subs really dominate the vision game and make it hard to play such a large and poorly concealed DD as a close-in assassin, but if you run the leg mod you can absolutely try to swing it as a torpboat. It's a sorta interesting hybrid ship that is really hard to define to one niche. It has good torps with solid DPM but they're hideously short-ranged and require a lot of risk to use. It has strong guns and with MBRB active you can absolutely assassinate a good handful of DDs or even light cruisers if you hit their broadside cit with AP. But I see most people play it as a long-range, impossible to hit gunboat that just puts out damage all match until the late-game where they finally hunt. Cassard line is another really interesting hybrid line that has solid gunpower to defend itself with and an interesting torp gimmick where you can launch torps from a safe distance and do a little damage or get in dangerously close and do a lot of damage. The only thing with picking French DDs for your first line is that both lines are smokeless DDs and smoke is an incredibly valuable tool for vision control. You will get worked over, hard, by far better DD players and you won't have the safety net that smoke provides to give you training wheels. I would personally, as a DD main, recommend you go Daring or Yueyang line for your first DD.
>>2195696Thanks anyway. I'll try cruisers one day. I'm just too in love with torpedoes for the moment.
>>2195714Alright, thanks. I have advanced a lot in the soviet line so I'll try the Minsk for a while, once I get there..
>>2195730Minsk finally got usable torps a while back, it used to have like 4km torps. But it's not at all a torpboat, and you shouldn't be expecting to use your 7km torps often or even try to get in range to use them. It's first and foremost a kiting gunboat that wants to let it's very nice 130s sing as often as possible. Kiev/Tashkent are more of the same, whereas Ognevoi/Udaloi have more usable hybrid torps (but they are still first and foremost gunboats and have bad torp DPM)Honestly getting through low tiers is very quick so my genuine advice if you love torps is to shelve Soviet DDs for now and pick up Pan Asian DDs. Jianwei at T5 is a bit of a pain point, but the T4 is an insane seal clubber and the T6 is pretty good (it plays like Gnevny but with better torps)Gadjah Mada is a super good, comfortable, easy to play Hybrid. You get very good conceal, very good maneuverability, excellent smokes, excellent guns that allow you to defend yourself and even hunt other torpboats, and it's all topped off with 2 racks of powerful deepwater torps that let you absolutely farm battleships. Gadjah is one of the best DDs in the game for a new player to learn in, with the only downside being that the T8 after it (Hsienyang) is very mediocre. Although, it has TRB nowadays which probably makes it a lot more comfortable to play as a torpboat.
>>2195736Alright, I'll try them.
By them way, while I'm here, any advice on beginners BBs ?>>2195736You were right, I'm having way more fun with the chinese DDs.
>>2199272Fuso and Nagato are good.
>>2201776Got the dunkirk for free, is that any good.
>>2201794You're going to get mixed opinions on the Dunkerque I think but personally I like mine. You have a pretty maneuverable, flexible platform at T6 that has an okay armor scheme and HP pool. The guns are a bit small in caliber but you get 8 of them, I find their accuracy is pretty respectable with good shell velocity that makes them easy to lead, and you get a shorter 26 second reload.It's not at all a bad ship for learning the fundamentals of playing a BB although it's less of a stationary bow-in tank and more of a flexible mobile battlecruiser style thanks to the good top speed, low caliber guns/fast reload and not super impressive armor. Play it at mid-range, try to keep moving and use your all-forward guns to angle steeply without losing any DPM for it and switch between HE and AP as necessary. You are a really good cruiser killer, your 330s will punish cruisers super hard and when I played it a lot my primary focus was trying to find cruiser broadsides and punish them. Your AP pen is good but you still do struggle a bit against other BBs thanks to your low caliber guns so don't be afraid to shoot HE at them if you aren't getting nice clean broadsides to hit with AP. Overall a really nice and maybe even underrated T6 BB, it has a bit of a learning curve but at the same time it's very forgiving once you learn it since you never need to give broadside to get a rear turret in the fight.
>>2096308Halford's guns and layout thereof impressed, expected something gimped with that float fighter. Groningen's probably most fun. Marco Polo's dispersion can let you down, but it's otherwise great for the price. No SAP secondaries albeit. >>2097070Hayate Torp Reload Booster is handy, and the guns make it so you're not compromising on gunboating either, if you wanted to build into it or have a hybrid. Khab's DPM is better than French X, if memory serves. Tulsa might be a cheaper side option to Brisbong for DPM memes in 203. >>2148169Bourgussy.
>>2201794It's pretty mid. Ultimately tier 6 doesn't matter much, but Dunk has a ton of downsides with not many ups. She does look cool at least.
Any ship you find ugly? For me, it's Iwamai. I even bought Kii instead because of that.
>>2199272>beginners BBs ?Montana Line. Get to NC at VIII and master it. Most forgiving Repair/Heal reload times. Always take Fire Prevention (3x fires vs. 4 max). Watch Potato Quality for recs and tactics (BB main). >>2201794>DunkChunk battleships, especially Battle Cruisers with AP, and find other cruisers to punish. Stiff rudder without that equipment, but more acceleration jukable with that instead.
Need a good tier 7 tech tree ship for doing Lunar leader board #3, any recommendation?
>>2195285Can I ask what server are you playing on?
Just got Hyuga. Is she any good?
>>2213292EUGot quite a hard time trying to farm with some ship I didn't like in tier VI. I ended up playing something else.
>>2208512St. Vincent. I hate any ship that has amidships turrets. Go Nelson style or be normal.>>2211536Nagato, Gneisenau>>2213294She was on launch but people cried and she got nerfed to average I think.
Is NA dead? Should I make a new account on the EU server if I'm a burger or should I log into my old account on NA?
>>2215069I don't know if it's dead. But last time I checked even ASIA has more players.
>>2215069Honestly I think maybe you should stick with NA due to timezone different. Less players won't make a different during peak time anyway.I used to play on EU but not anymore after I fixed my sleep schedule
>>2215364Are the NA players still braindead? Maybe I can get a better winrate like this.
>>2215069NA is stable, pretty much doing as well as it has in years since they started giving away so much shit in august.
>>2195285>>2213659Good to see a new player. But I'm playing on Asia server :(
Why so many BBs?
>>2217654
I haven't played in a whileI just want to say that World of Warships is so much better than World of Tanks it's not even funny
>>2217654Best class against subs, cruisers are bullied by everyone, DDs are hard for the average retard to play successfully.
I'm making a new account because of various reasons. What server should I choose?
>>2217654People have irrational fear of open water gameplay, as well as inability to use terrain. Also AP and Citadeling is absolute horseshit when not sailing Vermont or whatever.
So, what line should I grind first?
>>2221744Japanese battleships (Yamato line) really clicked for me as a new player. They've got a really simple game plan. Stay at a distance and lob AP for big damage. You should be on AP 95% of the time with them. Only swap to HE if you're shooting at DDs.They'll teach you how to aim, land citadels, and kite.They also handle quite well for battleships. USN Montana line also works, but I found their early tiers frustrating when I started.
Is this any good?>>2213659Did you use the IMPACTFORCE invite code?>20 days of Premium>7 Supercontainers>40 000 000 Credits>1 000 000 elite captain XP>600 000 Free XP>25 Rare economic bonuses of each type>tier 7 premium cruiser Boise
>>2221129Submarine chads love open waterGive me ocean every match
>>2223458Are you asking if Boise is any good? It's alright, it's a slightly more forgiving Helena by virtue of having a superheal. It's not meta defining but as far as T7 cruisers go it's pretty fucking nice to have a heal much less a superheal. I do think it ends up paying for it by being pretty fragile though so you have to be careful
>all of my resources only amount to 61% Surcouf progressouchIt looks so busted too, there's no way they ever make this thing available againThe worst part is there's no way to even whale for it anymore
>>2223808>SurcoufWow, it's really looks busted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qN8B-NgUFc
>>2223837A lot of the subs are kinda whatever but this one looks like it's just a better DD with no real downsides
>>2223914It even has better concealment than the I-56 despite being a bit bigger.
>>2223925there's definitely no way this thing EVER gets sold or made available again in the rest of the game's lifespan so I'm going to mald hard about not being able to get itmy bad for not playing more and accumulating more coal, if I knew the cost I actually would've given up getting a bunch of ships I got including Hawaii and spent everything on Surcouf
for what purpose? 100 steel is already equal to 1000 coal.
>>2223940Never mind, I guess it's for Surcouf.
>>2223940Technical limitations for the Surcouf event, you can't exchange steel into coal unless you're already buying a ship and lack coalBut you can't directly buy Surcouf, you have to fill a progress bar, so they had to add this as a way to convert steel to coal.
>>2223946At least the Collona looks pretty good and only 192k coalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC_kcXG7O9ghttps://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2025/03/marcantonio-colonna-tier-viii-premium-battleship.htmlAlso, notice how we mostly only get reskin ships after WG split from Russia?
>>2223966I am half tempted to buy it for 192k coal but I only have 500k coal and I'm thinking it's better to just save my coal till I hit 1 million even if the next salvage event is probably far enough away to comfortably make it there after buying Colonna.I don't want to miss another salvage event after the sting of Surcouf so I'll skip out on a solid to strong T8 prem BB, lord knows I have enough premium BBs and I'll pick up the R. Lauria next patch so I'll have another Italian BB trainer alongside my Cesare.I'm still slowly grinding Lepanto in Asyms to get to Columbo so I'm not in any real rush.
>>2223966Just another mediocre BB a tier higher than it has any right to be, utterly laughable stats, similar to Strasbourg in uselessness.
>>2213659Do you plan to stick with the game?
Seeing this >>2195285 makes me curious, Is it too late to get into this game in 2026? What's it like for a new player?
>>2226192You will play vs bots up until tier 5 or 6, so it won't be hard to start. Unfortunately tier 6 is pretty shit with double carrier, triple submarine games so you may lose interest there. You can always play operations or asymmetrics though to dodge those fucks. It's still a good mechanical game and they give out a decent amount of free shit, they just have no sense of how to manage it and insist on sharting out submarine bullshit.
More copy/paste ship.
>>2226205I actually have a several years old account that I mismanaged it. I don't know if I should just take advantage of new player bonus and start anew.
>>2226237Okay so I decide to go with new account (I hope I won't regret this)Do I need anything else other than XVOYAGE code and friend invite?
>>2213659What's you ign, anon? Wanna play together sometime?
Having to play tier 5-7 ships again is kinda refreshing honestly.
What ship should I put him on?
Why do Valparaiso players either suicide charge from the beginning or camp the whole game?
>>2229955because Valp rewards incredibly aggressive play and excellent players take full advantage of thatthe problem is that retards see/hear that and assume they can just yolo directly into the entire enemy team and that's the optimal Valp playthe campers are just your standard BB retards who will camp in any BB you put them in, whether it's Valpairaiso, Pommern, Missouri, Musashi, whatever role it's supposed to take they'll just kite at max gun range and play as safely as possible so they can be the last one alive at the end of the match with 50k damage
Is Hood any good?
>>2229955only low iq players play it
>>2223966>No AP, just HE * SAP180k coal's the average for IXs, but no AP is a deal breaker. You'd have to be a heavy cruiser main and SAP freak to edge it out. As an VIII it could be okay.
>>2233797SAP secondary. Main guns have AP and HE
I'm running low. How about you?
Kinda want to try my luck for that Napoli.
>>2234818It's available for Coal. Granted you're a newer player/fresh account and don't have any coal, so you do you, but I wouldn't pay large amounts of real money to get my hands on something that's available for free.
Shamelessly stolen from Reddit, nice visual overview of the event.Red numbers are how much in coal you can pay to get the ships.I wonder if the T9 BBs are worth the 258k coal, I have Optio from the battle pass as I'd imagine a bunch of people do which lets you skip the lunar token cost.Also of note is that you did NEED to do Leaderboards to get enough lunar tokens for Nera/Sharqi paths, although buying like one 8000 coal stage to make up for the lack of tokens is hardly a big ask for 99% of the playerbase.
>>2236027Schlieffen, Lauria or Petro?
>>2236068I'm going for Lauria, while I get the appeal of a prem tech tree ship I don't play enough German ships or have Lutjens for a prem Schlief to matter to meSame with Petro in that I haven't bought Kuznetzov yet, wouldn't mind getting it if I buy any crates though.My thought process though is that I have Schlieffen and Petro already, they're not new or exciting in any way. Lauria on the other hand I will literally never own outside of getting Tempesta Nera in this event. I am NEVER going to buy it for steel when there are so many other appealing steel ships to buy and Steel Will drains Steel reserves every year. So for me this is a once in a lifetime chance to own a unique Italian BB and an alright Russian prem and that to me is worth more than Zieten Petro or Irian SchliefYMMV though if you have Lutjens and you enjoy playing Adalbert and Schlieffen then it might be a no-brainer to get Zuckerhoff.
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>>2235734I mean should I buy it? It looks fun but I don't know.
Need a BB for secondary hit mission, is Gneisenau good? Maybe Bismarck?
>>2237087Wait, how about Amagi? Japanese 140mm has improve accuracy like German, right?
>>2236931It's decently good but it's also T5 so it's a bit of a who cares
The great debate.
>>2237087>>2237091Bismarck is your best bet. Amagi does not get improved secondaries.
>>2237087Run up the Schlieffen line bwoor buy a premium with a secondary focusActually you could probably go Adalbert line too nowadays
So I decided to go with Von Zuckerhoff, what about you?
>>2238081probably Nera, I'm on the fence about getting some crates since the nested lootboxes suck and I'm not sure any of the ships in them are even good enough to justify the price
>>2238081Lauria, because she's cool, steel and the skin looks cool. Will pick up Navarin after if I can get her for ~300k coal or so.
>>2238129>300kBad news for you, Neonport is 42k tokens and your max if you did leaderboards is like 45,700If you do have the 3500 extra tokens you can save the 48k coal that Furutaka costs, but it's still 18k for the captain, 156k for N. Cal and then 216k for Navarin or like 390k coal. If you don't have a ton of tokens to spare it's going to break 400k coal, up to a potential of 438k.
>>2238122The Lunar New Year containers? They seem pretty bad.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjR04hFCdvAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxRzVhNr4lghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYOr4G-I3vohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAp3kCVQ9Xghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xrnP-U4hbI
>>2238136I got first one two leaderboards and like 4th category on the other two. Guess I'll just think about it when I get there. If I don't get it I don't just saves dubs for a meme boat.
>>2238122>NeraNera is a waste of Lunar token.Just get something you can't easily get for free like TT premium clone (reduced cost + free commander switch) or a dubs only premium ship and use your steel to get Lauria.
>>2240576>just waste your steel on a mediocre steel ship instead of saving it for something like Hawaii/Bremen/Aki, the clone of a ship you can grind at any time for free is way more valuable because le free commander swap and it earns more credits (it earns nothing compared to T8/T9 prems)
Scharnhorst or Gneisenau?
>>2241993Gneis, 15s are infinitely more useful than 11s.
am i tripping or are subs and carriers not even slightly fun to anyone
>>2240576>>2240632Honestly, I think both of you are right.
>>2240632Wait, Lauria is a mediocre ship?
>>2244471It's a steel ship, so it's by definition not awful.But it's not even really better than Colombo (a bit unfair since Colombo is retardedly broken) and so in the context of buying it with Steel there are so many other options that I think it's a bit stupid to spend hard-earned steel on it. I'd never buy it over any of the other steel options I don't have.BUT, when the equation is Lauria vs Schlieffen vs Petro? The Lauria becomes a lot more competitive, in my eyes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XXyy4BnfoA
>>2244471Unfortunately it is most frequently compared to the most broken ship in the game. Yes, it doesn't do what Columbo does quite as well, but it does other things better and has some serious drawbacks, mostly the raised citadel and shell catchers aft. 457 SAP overmatch is an interesting strength though.
>>2242753>15s are infinitely more useful than 11sSo Bismarck is better than Brandenburg too?
>>2244938Uh, probably? Tirpitz is probably a better comparison. 15s are less impressive at 8 than at 7. At 7 you can overmatch almost every BB's bow, at 8 not very much. German 11s are just not very good because they are inaccurate and have really poor HE. Theoretically you punish broadside cruisers more easily but you punish cruisers with whatever BB guns.
>>2236027Which one of these should a new player choose?
>>2244968Probably Tempesta Nera? The others are techtree clones, with the exception of Mahtaga, which is a clone of an interesting but hardly broken premium.
>>2244968How new? There's honestly some argument to be made for grabbing PTRPVLSK or Von Zuckerhoff if you're not going to be going up either of those tech trees any time soon. I'd skip the Sharqi line, unless you really think you'd enjoy the brawling gameplay of Navarin. Libertatia is also a hard skip, no real value in any of those ships. Shamrockville is a hard skip, Imperium is a weird one where both Marco and Giuseppe are interesting enough ships but probably not worth it outside of niche cases. So the rec lines are either Neonport for Poz+Lauria, Pinatopia for Irian and Schlieffen which are pretty solid (you get a good T8 premium and a solid enough T10) or Rustport for Zieten and Petro which are both tech trees but not terribly bad ships either.Z-52 I don't really recommend in 2026 and most of the track is pretty dogshit outside of Navarin - it's also the most expensive track token-wise so a bit of a loser there too.
>>2246067I don't really think there's a reason to go for a techtree clone if he wasn't interested in going down that line anyway. The only reason to get a suckheroff is if you really like the pinata camo or you want to freeslot lutjens, which I doubt a new player is concerned about.
>>2246067New like this new.
>>2244240You are tripping
>>2244240you are not tripping
Are any of these good or fun?
Anything I should know?
>>2247172I-56 is overpowered in operations. Hyuuga can be fun.
>>2244968>Which one of these should a new player choose?The Kheper North Carolina. Great tech tree battleship. And this >>2246067>>2246257>I don't really think there's a reason to go for a techtree clone if he wasn't interested in going down that line anyway.Having a secondary BB tier X for Lutjen's is handy, even if just for event secondary missions. Then he doesn't have to grind the line at all and have his cake too.>>2247172>Scharn 43, Brandenburg (a fine Bismarck/Tirpitz clone), Kirov (low tier 180s, accurate, citadel reliably), Yubari (if it's the Tier VII dd with 15km torps), ARP Myoko clones are solid, Colossus is strong W/ fast planes, I-56 XP modifier shits credits on Operations, Atago's always been viable, Kidd's AA is useful>>2247535You're battleship sized without the armor or Fire Prevention skill, kite and be annoying, find heavy cruisers to nuke, chunk battleships - especially Germans and British - with AP
>>2248295It's not hard at all to grind a line to tier X man. 31k steel takes a very long time in comparison and dubs are money. You can also get some very good secondary BBs for coal.Also dunk is a BB so it can get those skills, maybe you're thinking Toulon or Marseille line?
>>2244952So would you Tirpitz or Brandenburg?
Can you rank these ships?
>>2248564I would neither, I own Tirpitz and she's not that great these days. If you must pick one I'd take Brandenburg if she has hydro(I forget if she does or not).
>>2248570Champagne > Cossack > Tulsa > Repulse = Warspite > Azuma > San Diego > Atlanta > WV 44 > Marco Polo > Optio > Tokachi
>>2248578>I'd take Brandenburg if she has hydroBrandenburg has no hydro.>>2248579Thank you.
>>2247172>>2248570did they deny you an account rollback?
>>2248595Sadly
>>2248605That's fucked man, my heart goes out to youI'd personally want to have most of those ships for collection's sake, but if I had to pick I'd probably grab Brandenburg (Anhalt can be obtained for coal if you ever do want it quicker, or just placed relatively low on the credit recovery list), I-56, maybe Hood, maybe Atago, potentially Azuma since it's a Tier 9 prem (but also available for coal/could buy Yoshino and "replace" it), Congress and Kidd. I don't think any of the lower tier ships are really that valuable in terms of gameplay fun, maybe Blyska is okay but the rest I either own and they're bland or I can look at the stats and my opinion is they'll probably be bland.For the other list I mostly agree with the guy who's already responded but I'd probably value Repulse/Warspite lower unless you really enjoy that style of gameplay at T6.Cossack is a monster of a DD, even today. Optio was available in a battle pass and is available right now for tokens/coal so it's a pretty low value ship even if it's not a particularly bad one (although it's also a T7 croozer)
>>2248609Remember: Never nuked your account, just uninstall just in case.
>>2248609Honestly I wonder if I should make a new account with XVOYAGE code.
>>2248624Nah I don't know that XVOYAGE is good enough to make up for being able to grab a bunch of pretty solid premium ships every month assuming you grind enough credits.What's the rest of your account look like resource-wise, do you have an appreciable amount of coal/steel? Also consider all the tech trees you've already got, not that it takes THAT long to grind tech trees these days.
Is the Pinatian (Irian clone) any good?
>>2248346>You can also get some very good secondary BBs for coal.Not that anon, but is there any premium German ship with secondaries on the same level as the German BC line? I can't think of any.
Wake up babe, new cancer just dropped.It's only a matter of time before they add submarine aircraft carriers.
>>2249021Mecklenburg maybe? But she is steel.>>2249101We already have plenty of dutch airstrike aids, surcouf is worse(assuming you are not a BB).>>2248760I think she's pretty trash, like a bad kutuzov(which isn't even special in current year).
>>2249101>submarine aircraft carriers
>>2249446Yeah I think the tier 8 tech tree Harbin is better because she has Pan-Asian smoke and heal.
>>2249101Perfect for the next Arpeggio collab.
>>2248760The torps and reload booster are nuts, if you have full camo and find some goldilocks scenario. But, yea, it's kind of mid.
If you have your Steam linked or play on Steam, Wargaming is running a 4-1 bundle on Steam right now for about $5, you get a Mutsu (as well as a T26E3 Eagle 7 in WoT and some worthless crap for Blitz/Warplanes)
what do i do creating a new account? codes?
>>2251159Use XVOYAGE invite code and get a friend referral.
>>2251169i used the code but i don't understand where to get the shit from it
>>2251319Check Combat Missions
>>2251330thx senpai
what is each faction good at and what are each ship classes good at?
>>2251372Germans: Secondaries, hydro, protected citadels, high penetration HEUSA: Big/fast heals, good AA(ha), generally well balanced jack of all tradesJapan: Great torpedoes, good detection, good gunsUK: Biggest heals, best HE, large consumable arraysUSSR: best armor, powerful but slightly inaccurate guns, poor detectionDutch: airstrike aidsPan-EU: fast low detect torpedoes, usually have speed boost on everythingPan-AM: overpowered bullshitium F button boatsItaly: fuel smoke, SAP, slow torps, good paintjobs/aestheticsSpain: nobody cares
Can anyone recommend me tier 8 fire starter cruisers? I tried Harbin and it's pretty fun.
>>2251578Mainz, Chapayev and Cleveland, but Harbin is probably one of the best since it has smoke.
>>2251578https://shiptool.st/params?g=TP&ty=C&n=All&t=8&p=he&os=he&op=Fires_%2F_minCleveland has the best FPM, Bayard has a very good FPM while being a flexible comfortable to play cruiser and I don't think that number factors in the reload booster so Bayard probably has the highest FPM at T8 and the ability to frontload those fires into someone who's damage con you've burnt so they bleed out to a triple perma-fire. Honorable mentions to Irian (similar playstyle to Harbin but using bigger guns with better velocity/range and fires per minute)Auckland also has a respectable enough 8.8 FPM on a tech tree ship with smoke so might be a consideration. I think finally I'd also consider Grau as a firestarter - the fires per minute/DPM is pretty anemic without the funny key, but it does the same thing Bayard does where if you have your reload boost up and someone has damage con on cooldown, they're about to have a horrible time. Charles Martel is kinda mid but it's a tech tree reload booster cruiser that might be alright for getting a taste for that sort of playstyle.
>>2252173>>2252270Thank you.
>>2252686To sum them up a bit more for youTech tree (i.e. you don't have to shell out real money)>ClevelandFloaty shells arcs in exchange for the best DPM and fires. Likes to play around island cover and avoid being spotted, not an incredible ship in open water thanks to poor shell arcs and not amazing survivability. 9km radar, okay utility ship. Pick this if you want a mostly passive playstyle and are okay with the learning curve of leading (and are okay with occasionally being frustrated by ships you just can't hit because they're too far away/maneuverable)Your radar is for locking down areas and holding caps.>ChapayevOpen water kiter - you have MUCH flatter shell arcs than Cleveland in exchange for a bit less DPM and fires. Pick this one if you want to play a lot more of an active role since you can't hide behind islands as well thanks to flat shell arcs. You will reliably be hitting faster ships and ships further away, and enjoying a more active (and risky) playstyle. You also get 12km radar - it doesn't last as long, but it's a lot nicer for catching and killing DDs. Your radar is for catching out DDs and maiming or killing them with your guns.>AucklandI haven't actually played this one, but from what I can see you have a nice creeping smoke that allows you to be flexible in your positioning while farming with HE. You have decently hard hitting HE since you have 203s, you have good DPM, you want to play mid-range (far enough away you don't get spotted with your not-amazing smoke firing penalty) and basically just selfishly farm. Your utility is being very good against submarines because you have sub surveil and can hold 3 charges of long range ASW planes. Cont. for CM/Bayard/Grau
>>2252699>Charles MartelYou're a high speed, long range kiter. You take advantage of your speed to speed juke and throttle juke while speed boost is active. You don't bring any team utility, you're purely selfish. Play long range at first with HE, use reload booster on BBs without damage con to really pump out the fire damage. In later game, or if the opportunity presents itself, you can also use reload booster with AP to be a nasty ambush predator that can delete broadside cruisers, so don't underestimate that.Premiums>BayardPretty similar to Charles Martel, but you're much faster and more maneuverable at the cost of durability (not that CM is that durable) and you have smaller caliber guns so you don't have the nasty AP punch. But overall pretty much everything else about your ship is better.>GrauVery funny meme ship, you play a decent enough 152 cruiser with relatively mediocre DPM. You don't get a smoke, or a heal, or anything of any real utility. You get pretty decent conceal though and that's the funny part of this ship - staying dark while repositioning lets you charge up combat instructions that cuts your reload by 2/3 for a full 30s. This transforms you from a mediocre middle of the pack cruiser to a DPM firehose MONSTER. You win cruiser 1v1s hilariously, you melt BBs, you evaporate DDs, it's insane.>IrianBasically a Chapayev without the radar but in exchange you get TRB on hilarious deepwater torpedos so you can drop 10 deepwaters that hit for 18k with 13.5km of range which can make you an absolute menace against BBsFor some reason I thought this thing got Pan Asian smoke because I usually see these guys sitting in someone's smoke but it's probably for the best it doesn't.
>>2252699>>2252705How's 155 Mogami?
any suggestions on control improvements, sick of scrolling like crazy to zoom in and out to shoot
>>2253320...You can just press Shift.
>>2253376>>2253381thx frens
>Irian>Basically a ChapayevI don't have Chapayev but she sounds like she play like Atago?
so faggots with torps are how they make their money i guess
155mm Mogami or Shimanto?
>>2254428Mogami, no clue what the FUCK they were thinking with the Yodo tree
Maybe I won't get Zuckerhoff cuz this camo just looks so good. What should I get instead with 33200 tokens?
>>2253320>sick of scrolling like crazy to zoom in and out to shootRestore camera option, so it's hold R-Click, release for wide angle. Remove Camera Feedback For Damage and Reduced Fire/Flooding Effect, UI garbage. And use the Dynamic reticle, which will be regulated to flight to target, assuming 30 knots. >>2254428Shimantos are strong VI/VII, then obese DDs above. Mogami all day. >>2251372Get the Kheper in the Moonyear event (North Carolina reskin). Competitive down tiered, good enough camo, hard hitting accurate guns, good heal/repair. >>2248570Wouldn't bother beside Warspite, Atlanta, Cossack, Champagne, Tulsa and Optio. Tier for tier,Warspite & Coassack. Tulsa's DPM's nuts.
should i do random battles or co-op battles t1-t4?
>>2258304If you're asking you're probably in protected/bot MM so do randoms since it'll be basically the same as co-op but with actual experience gainsLater on you'll just fxp to T5 for new branches since it's not worth the effort to grind T1-4 and the fxp economy isn't so stingy you can't afford to skip T1-4
Wait, I thought Pilus Posterior (Giuseppe Verdi clone) was a brawling battleship, but it has the same secondaries range and accuracy as other normal battleships?
>>2261718It has SAP. That's the gimmick. You pen armor that HE secondaries shatter on, so you get really good DPM at the cost of not starting fires. You also have a fuel smoke that allows you to farm people - your secondaries don't break smoke conceal, so theoretically you can sit in that smoke at like 5km for an entire minute with your main guns silent and just farm them down from conceal. If you look at the secondary DPM, it has the most DPM of any T9 BB (although the actual hitting DPM is a bit below the really heavy secondary BBs like Navarin or Iwami thanks to not having improved accuracy)It's not a broken S-tier BB though, no. It's just alright.
>>2257503Anyone? Maybe Navarin?
>>2261770Navarin is cool and the mahtaga skin looks nice, just don't expect it to be OP, it's just okay. Definitely better than the italian BBs.
Playing Champagne makes me want Tsurugi. Anyone have her?
>page 10So how about that uhh, Minegumo?
