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Season 8 Finishing Soon
Blast Off Returns, Trentlla Makes Massive Gains with OZPUZEheads
The Cowboy Finally Breaks Out of His Rusty Cage
Also There's a Major

Join "Vidya" if you want to find other anons to play with
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>make real life soda version of ospuze
>make ingame event to sponsor it
>don't tell anyone on steam
>no links in the official gamemode reveal video
What's their endgame here?

It's also 40-50 bucks for 24 cans, bit high for a commitment of something you may or may not enjoy
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>>2057977
Yeah, I guess unless you have been following them a lot elsewhere, most people will think Sour Core is as fictional as Tiger Juice
>what's their endgame
I think, unfortunately for everyone, Embark is just a bunch of silly gooses.
>it's also 40-50 bucks for 24 cans
Isn't it also in Sweden. Shipping soda alone is expensive as fuck, but I can't imagine actually trying it unless you're at a convention and they're selling it there.
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>blast off is the same map
It's a fun LTM but that's lame as fuck, they could have just reused one of the TDMs ones.
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>>2058016
I think Monaco is the way to go. You want a tall structure that people can climb on and in and around, along with blowing it up without the entire thing immediately collapsing. That's what made the chapel on Bernal so fun to fight on too.
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>>2058023
I think Kyoto could have worked too, especially that one section with the big cliff that's used in TDM, there's angled rooftops that would have been fun to launch yourself off of.
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>>2057970
>Season 8 Finishing Soon
There's a whole ass month until the next season.
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>>2058292
That's a very short amount of time
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>>2058437
That's not "soon"
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>>2058517
It is in fact soon
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>>2057970
if the playerbase keeps declining nexon is gonna pull their classic jew move and kill this game eventually
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I dunno what it is, but something about blast off seems a bit snappier this time. Maybe it's just the green explosions adding a little somethin somethin
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>>2059756
It doesn't have that ugly ass filter on your screen
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>>2060149
You know that you could've disabled the filter immediately, before the patch that made it a separate option, right?
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>>2060307
During the LTM? You could disable that pixelated filter?
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>>2060985
Yep. On the first day, people found out which graphics option included the filter and disabled it, so Embark just said "fuck it" and made a new graphics option so people could disable just the filter specifically.
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>actually did make a extra finals-y pass for the Major
Yaaaaaaay
>costs another $10 and has no multibux
Boooooooo
Ah well, at least it's actually somewhat good shit in it. Basically the same amount of usable cosmetics as the full passes, once you cut all the chaff out.
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>world tour
>my team is in 2nd place with a minute left, purple is in first place, orange is in 3rd.
>if orange cashes out then they knock us out,
>purple is trying to steal from orange so i tell teammates to just let purple steal
>they ignore me and kill the purple player who is stealing
>i suicide rush in to try to steal because now i have to with like 10 seconds left
>die and we get knocked out
I was thinking whatever they're probably new, but then the postmatch stats showed they were both lvl 80+. How have you NOT figured it out at that point?
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>>2057970
Free sticker that embark put in the game to honor a player who died.
0deed801-015e-4c31-85f6-8f3692c5e448
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>>2062606
who?
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>>2063405
Some player, he died of cancer. His brother asked Embark if they could honor him in game somehow so they made that sticker.
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>final round of world tour
>we already cashed out once and after a fight we wipe the enemy team and one of my teammates if the only one left alive
>there's 20 seconds on the cashout timer, if he steals it we win
>FOR SOME FUCKING REASON HE DECIDES TO MANUALLY REVIVE MY OTHER TEAMMATE EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE ELSE IS DEAD
>the teammate that just got revived scrambles to steal but it's too late and the enemy team gets it
>we lose on the next cashout
oh my fucking god i have never been more angry at a teammate in my life. holy shit what a fucking retard. really snatched defeat from the jaws of victory there.
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Did they recently update the nameless announcer? It sounds like he's on more maps now and is way more in line with his original voice lines, that being actually expressive instead of constantly going
>Three kills. Someone's getting promoted.
>That's not a fart, that's a pants-shitter.
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You think they're gonna roll back this whole voice moderation thing? It pretty much killed voice chat over night. Thankfully there are tools to do pretty decent call outs without voice, but not really something for "don't revive" outside of typing super fast. I'm not defending the people trying to spout nigger constantly, but I do think if you don't want to listen to your teammate you should just turn off voice chat or have the option to mute specific players like other shit has been doing for ages now. Games should be promoting more self moderation over automated shit like this.
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>>2065116
I'll throw in my two cents as someone outside of the debate and say the game was just better when few people talked and communication was done 90% by pings. It's more a question of how much of a deal breaker this is for other players, and how much of the game's regular playerbase is from the early days and would be more likely to similarly not mind it.
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Haven't played in ages.
Does anyone care about the esports thing or is it a massive waste of money?
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>>2066066
It's certainly an event, but it's not like a huge thing. The people who care about the competitive viability of the game have always been a minority, after all. That being said, it's definitely poorly timed, given that most eyes are on Arc Raiders right now.

If they cross promoted it in Arc Raiders, they might get a lot of attention
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>>2066066
> Does anyone care about the esports thing or is it a massive waste of money?
Nobody with a brain in their head gives a shit. The playerbase of The Finals is not big enough to become a renowned, popular T1 esport like CS:GO, Apex, or R6 Siege.

It's a colossal waste of money, essentially. As dead as the esports scene in Overwatch is right now, for example, I guarantee you that even OW at it's peak esports popularity massively dwarfed any viewers this bullshit majors in The Finals ever had.

Video games with small, niche fanbases should stop trying to force their way into esports worlds they cannot sustainably belong in.
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>>2066081
>The Finals is not big enough to become a renowned, popular T1 esport like CS:GO, Apex, or R6 Siege.
Who cares? It's not like there's a shitton of tourneys. It's just the one big one.
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>>2066085
> Who cares?
You should, if you actually want Embark to care more about it's casual playerbase instead of whatever bullshit balancing designs madeup to cater to the """pro players""" of a game that will never be a superbly popular esport
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>>2066099
Case in point: Embark deciding to put ALL updates on hold just for it's joke of a major. A major, of course, that doesn't feature a single fucking """pro""" who's name is synonymous with The Finals
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>>2066099
Not really. Based on the last 7 seasons before this one, it's pretty clear that's not going to be an issue.
>>2066104
>A major, of course, that doesn't feature a single fucking """pro""" who's name is synonymous with The Finals
This smells like a very "zoomer" take on esports and such.
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>>2066108
The last 7 seasons before this one didn't have a major, retard.
>>2066108
How is pointing out the moronic idea of hosting a grand esport major featuring zero players known by the casual playerbase at large a zoomer take? Are you just being willfully ignorant on purpose?
> THIS IS THE FINALS, Y'ALL! TUNE IN FOR THE EPIC MAJORS, WE'RE HIP WITH THE HECKIN' ESPORTS, DUDES!
> Uh, okay. And who's playing in it that has established themselves as a very well-known player that is essentially representative of The Finals, and can thus bring more popularity to the game as a whole?
> ...-W-WE'RE HIP WITH THE HECKIN' ESPORTS, DUDES!
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>>2066113
>The last 7 seasons before this one didn't have a major, retard
That's like, the point. This big tournament is a special occasion, and it's marked by no attempts to prep the game especially for it. We'll return to the normal run of things next season, where Embark doesn't balance around esports or competitive, instead basing things on their own esoteric retardation that pisses off everyone equally
>how is it a zoomer take to think that hosting an esports major without famous players is dumb
Because you're caring more about big name players over everything else. Big tourneys like this should be more about people just competing, rather than "Streamer I Watch is competing!!!!!" The very idea of "a very well-known player that is essentially representative of The Finals" is cringe and what the youngsters would care about.

You also don't need to get upset. It's just a video game, dude.
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>>2066081
>The playerbase of The Finals is not big enough to become a renowned, popular T1 esport like CS:GO, Apex, or R6 Siege.
Brother, siege's pro-league was a joke for over half a decade, it wasn't until covid hit and the removal of the console leagues that it started gaining traction.

I know nothing about the finals pro scene but it doesn't just appear out of nowhere - call of duty and battlefield have thrown countless millions of dollars at their games and their "pro" circuits are embarrassing.
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>>2066145
...My god, you actually have no idea what you are talking about.
How does it not compute in your pea-sized brain that to be a thriving Esport, the game has to be popular and with popular players.
The Finals does not have that, and I guarantee you that it's """pro""" scene will be dead in 5 years or less, thus proving to have been a phenomenal waste of resources and money that could've went to the casual playerbase instead.

Don't reply to me again if you're so profoundly moronic that you cannot understand this basic point because you're willfully being an idiot brainrotted by the zoomer generation nobody mentioned except for you, unc

TY
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>>2066220
You're struggling and becoming frustrated because your comprehension of the situation is inherently flawed. To say things like
>thriving esport
>pro scene
is to fundamentally misunderstand The Finals and the point of the Major, and to say
>that could've went to the casual playerbase instead
is to fundamentally misunderstand game development and how/where from these resources are allocated. This is very easy to understand if you follow the logic so far, but you are very committed to getting angry, which is a very odd thing for a person to do. You need help, my friend.
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>>2066226
Why do you keep at this?
Why are you being so supermassively contrarian as to think that The Finals, hosting a major, would NOT need popularity?
Are you an Embark employee?
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>>2066254
It does not matter what deranged argument you pull out of your ass.
The Finals wants to be proven as an eSport-ready game.
If this was not the case, Nexon, or whoever the fuck else is in charge of the game, would not now be marketing The Finals as an eSport-ready game.
Esport-ready games need popularity, brand recognition, and player recognition.
None of your bizarre arguments that are completely detached from reality will never be able to negate these three basic facts.
Stop coping.
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>>2066262
Furthermore, regarding whatever nonsensical reply you are compelled to post after this, it does not matter in the slightest because I will simply redirect you to my post of three basic facts above that cannot be altered or disproven with your astonishingly moronic reasoning.
And again, I say to you:
Stop coping.
Remember this! :)
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>>2066254
>Why would The Finals, hosting a major, not need popularity
Because it's the The Finals' Major, not The Finals League
You have a lot of assumptions as to what the Major is that's rooted in preconceived notion and what other games are doing, not what The Finals is currently doing. Again, you're only making yourself frustrated.
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>>2066273
Majors are part of eSports.
Holy fuck you don't even know what eSports are lmao.
That explains everything, GG retard
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>>2066314
Oh, and further proving how ignorant and out of your depth you are- explain why DreamHack, an eSport company known for hosting eSport tournaments, has a website advertising the grand major for The Finals right here:
https://dreamhack.com/stockholm/the-finals/

And in addition to that, disprove the key points I made in this post here: >>2066262

You ready to admit you've been a stubborn retard this whole time, or are you going to double down like even more of a stubborn retard?
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>>2066314
>Majors are part of eSports.
Yes, and? That wasn't up for debate. The point is that majors are majors. They aren't leagues and aren't always circuits. Having a major isn't predicated upon having a large pro scene or being a "thriving esport," it's just THE big officially-endorsed esport tourney for a game.
>you don't even know what eSports are
I don't think you know at this point. It's very clear that you're not familiar with eSports as a whole and are instead working from another comapny's blueprint for their game and are rigidly adhering that, to the detriment of your emotional and mental state
>>2066323
>why Dreamhack has a website advertising the Grand Major
What, did you not know that Dreamhack was hosting it?
>disprove the key points I made in this post
Simple: those points are dependent on your other assertions, which I've already stated to be incorrect
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>>2066327
OK, now you're pretending that you weren't arguing that The Finals isn't an eSport with this statement you made minutes earlier: "Because it's the The Finals' Major, not The Finals League".
You aren't arguing in good faith, you're now backtracking and being a total dickhead.
I didn't read the rest, I accept your concession or am very sorry that happened to you, retard
Someone else will have to deal with you paradoxically contradicting yourself
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>>2066335
>now you're pretending that you weren't arguing that The Finals isn't an eSport with this statement you made minutes earlier: "Because it's the The Finals' Major, not The Finals League".
Oh no, I'm still 100% arguing that. The Finals' Major IS an eSport tourney, but The Finals itself ISN'T an eSport due to a lack of greater organized play like leagues and what not. Again, you're only confusing yourself at this point, as you leap from preconceived notions instead of paying attention to what someone is saying, and you've only yourself to blame for your frustration.
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>>2066341
Nah, I accept your concession
You're now tripling down and attempting an argument that is already rooted in you inherently contradicting yourself via semantics
>>2066323
Still waiting on you to factually disprove this btw
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>>2066347
>Nah, I accept your concession
You are now working off the preconceived notion that I'd concede anything on this issue. Again, this means you only have yourself to blame for your frustration, as you're only arguing with what you're deciding for yourself in your head. If you were going to imagine a scenario, you should at least imagine one that doesn't make you so upset
>disprove this
What's there to disprove? DreamHack is hosting the Major because the Major is an eSports tourney. You just think that having a Major automatically makes The Finals an eSports game as well, which has been consistently argued against while you desperately and repeated have tried to eject from this conversation (yet only to return to it multiple times)

Maybe in the future, you should play more video games instead of being obsessed with eSports and qualifying games as such. It's clearly not healthy for you.
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>>2066353
...Still waiting for you to disprove this btw
>>2066323
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lotta posts to say that this game has no legs to stand
8 seasons and cashout is still a half baked gamemode btw
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>>2066869
yeah yeah, you niggas have been saying that for years at this point
doomposters have no weight ever since you people said dumbshit like
>the S3 soundtrack is a message from Embark that the game is dead and won't make it another season, this game has no legs
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>>2066988
I actually don't mind S3's soundtrack, I think they started getting lazy with it after S5 and now it's mostly rehashes. Though to be fair, this season was the most empty nothingburger yet, hardly any new content, no new map, the LTMs are rehashes or just bad and nothing was changed. Doomposting or not, you can't deny these facts
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No song will ever top Destroyer and it's not even a contest. I'll be honest, I wasn't a fan of S2's OST when it first came out, mostly because the retrowave hacker theme felt too jarring and too early for the game, but looking back, season 1 and 2 had the best music bar none.
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I don't mind the finals getting a big eSports event. Independent community driven leagues already existed for this game. This is just embark giving the competitive scene a sanctioned tournament.
Not having balance patches is shitty though, they should have found a way to balance the competitive integrity of the game while also not just ignoring the rest of the player base.
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I havent touched Finals since Arc came out.
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>>2067201
>you can't deny these facts
I can deny they've anything to do with doomposting, you silly goose. Taking S8 as a metric on the game is as ridiculous as taking the period of time where Embark had to take Sweedish holiday as a metric on the game. Like they told you ahead of time that it was going to be a lighter season, and the reactivation of fun previous LTMs and World Tour Circuits is what people were expecting/wanted in light of such things.

If you want a worrying lite season, it'd be S6, and even then they delivered on things in-season and knocked it out of the park with S7, so yeah.
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>>2067297
Haven't touched since season 8 rolled out. I just don't care enough, I just pop back in for the ltm rewards and to finish the passes but other than that, I'm out
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>>2067313
>fun ltms
lol
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The last tournament was a fucking disaster
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Does colluision count as exploiting? I just had two teams work together so they can both advance in world tour. It was essentially 6v3v3 it was so bullshit they never fought each other just worked together to keep everyone else out of the game. Are they fucking boosting or something?
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>>2067941
Yep. If you made sure to report them, you should see a pop-up sometime tomorrow. Usually around 6AM EST is when the staff rolls in and bans start rolling out, and they'll tell you when they've slapped someone.
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>>2068064
I reported everyone on both teams. Literally just emoting and hanging out with eachother and teaming to kill everyone else, shit made me so mad
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Am i just bad or does flamethrower feel insanely strong right now? Heavies can just fucking walk at you and you can't do shit
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>>2069390
If they get like 3 seconds of consistent damage on you yeah
but it rarely happens unless you don't know how to walk backwards/run away
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>>2069390
You can and should run, which is the more guaranteed thing. However, the Flamethrower is also one of the worst DPS for Heavy, so there's little reason not to be able to kill him even if he gets the drop on you.
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>>2069408
>>2069463
A lot of the times I'm getting destroyed by a flamethrower because the cashbox is indoors somewhere and in close quarters it just shits on me. I'm also a medium main so I can't dash or grapple away. And if I do try to run, I get winched.
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>>2069637
You should have gay sex with your friends until they're willing to play as your Winch Heavy to alleviate such issues
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>>2066353
I read through your entire rant, and it was the absolute biggest waste of my time
You went from: No, the finals isn't trying to become an e-sport (Which is flatout a massive lie) to yes, the finals is an e-sport but that's not a bad thing

You're the average 4chan user: someone who is really, really confident in their stupidity and tries to gaslight everyone into believing that you aren't stupid
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How different is this from ARC Raiders?
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>>2069786
This one has guns
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>>2069756
>to yes, the finals is an e-sport but that's not a bad thing
The very post you're replying to reiterates once again that The Finals is not an eSports game, it just has an eSports tournament. Either your reading comprehension is truly in the toilet or you're just choosing to flat out lie, but both is hilarious when paired with you trying to accuse anyone else of "trying to gaslight anyone into believing you aren't stupid"

If anyone's a waste of time here, it's clearly you, and unlike (You), I shall elect to play video games instead of dealing with your nonsense.
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>>2069838
Oh man I love those I'll give it a shot
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>>2069786
It's a completely different genre for one. An extraction shooter versus an arena objective based shooter.
The Finals is very chaotic and fast paced. The concept is that you're a contestant in this virtual gameshow and killing each other for money. And the game fully leans into this by making everything fun and wacky. The levels are completely destructible, all the named characters are caricatures, the stages are like medieval Japan and modern day Korea and a futuristic las Vegas etc.
There's some background lore of this being a dystopian future that is run by shady corporations and everything is kind of tied to that with everything being branded by them including outfits which range from serious military men to stupid bugs bunny shit. The self expression in this game is great, the clothing options are very extensive.

Arc in comparison is much slower paced and takes itself much more seriously
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>>2069857
>versus an arena objective based shooter
I think that's underselling it. A LOT about The Finals is tied up in Cashout, even with other gamemodes
>the clothing options are very extensive
I'd honestly argue against that. It took forever to get us some tank tops, we're stilling missing out on shorts, and we're heading into Winter and there's barely anything for coats and sweaters beyond the basic and girly ones. Shit is varied and well-detailed, but not extensive.
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>>2069866
There are shorts in the game though. But I mean I think it's pretty well covered overall. You can find SOMETHING you like in the game, even if they don't have something specific that you want.
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I am a light main. :)
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Insane that it took them so long to put crop tops in the game and we still only have 2.
We also need way more hair styles.
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>>2069876
There's shorts with leggings, but there's a frightfully small amount of just shorts by themselves. You've got the boxing shorts from S1 and the animal booty shorts, that's basically it.

Also yeah, I think the variety is enough that you can find something. I just find that, as a fag that likes having like 50 outfits, that I find myself lacking enough unique pieces for some of the shit I want.
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>load into match
>both of my teammates wearing mexican flags with anime names and naruto profile pictures
>they both get banned in the loadout screen for violating the fair play policy
It's always the people you least suspect.
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>>2070036
>mexican flags with anime names and naruto profile pictures
True, it violates fair play bringing all that power to the table
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>>2069891
For the love of God stop rushing into a 3v1 by yourself and then abandoning the match when me and our other teammate can't get anything done down a man. I am so tired of you guys
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>>2070062
I do this but I don't abandon. Maybe I like the abuse? I mean ha ha, make me.
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>>2069839
ESports tournaments cannot be hosted in non-ESports games
You don't know what you're talking about at all and are aggressively confident in your stupidity
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>>2069866
I haven't played cashout since season 3, its shit.
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>>2069637
Demat or jump pad away, seriously
at worst you trade
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>>2069839
nta but it's clear they don't really want the major to be a "one and done" deal, they want to cement the finals as an esport icon and regarless of personal opinion, the main ranked gamemode isn't suited for it
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i legit hate having lights on my team they are so FUCKING useless
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>spend spare coins the other day
>Embark decides now is the time to release the TGM25 skin for the flamethrower
What are some racial slurs for swedes
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>>2069970
there's more coming. I believe
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Speaking of crop tops Reddit was super prudish about putting them in the game. They're really weirdly puritan about anything even remotely "sexy" being put in the game. Fucking hate that place.
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People keep pushing this theory that the Finals and ARC Raiders take place in the same universe. I don't think that's true but if it were I'd probably hate that.
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>>2071767
There's plenty of little easter eggs regarding The Finals in Arc Raiders, but yeah I guess it hasn't been officially confirmed if this is like an Ultor situation or not
>I'd probably hate that
What's there to hate about it. The Finals is already corpo dystopia. Arc Raiders fits in pretty well as happening later down the timeline after Earth gets abandoned
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>>2071793
I like that the world of the Finals out of the gameshow is mostly implied. We don't actually see what it's like but can make inferences based off of what snippets we get.
Meanwhile Arc is much more deliberate .
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>>2071601
well they wouldn't know culture or taste if it slapped them in the face so why even bother
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>>2071823
Granted, I haven't played Arc Raiders, but I thought the lore was just that eventually, the robots suddenly appeared and everyone that couldn't afford the ticket off-planet were forced to live underground. All that would really be done is that the implied reality of The Finals is how the world would've been in Arc Raiders before the machines popped up.

Unless you mean like, the state of ruins and any waste left behind gives a more clearcut answer on how far the meatspace tech of The Finals progressed and how fucked up it was before the collapse. Like the lack of hyper advanced buildings and a mountain of crumpled OSPUZE cans in Arc Raiders means that The Finals wasn't as futuristic and fucked up as previously thought.
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>>2071835
It's more so that we can imagine what the future of the Finals looks like, while in the Arc we're just told what it's like.
The Finals is a techno dystopia while Arc is just straight up post apocalyptic. It's fun to look at the Finals and see how sinister the game is and we can project onto groups like CNS or Vaiiya or Scotty and June how we want to. While there's less opportunity for that in Arc. I like that you're not told the full story of what's going on the Finals.
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>>2071843
Well it's not like you're necessarily told the full story either if Arc is added to continuity. Arc Raiders takes place roughly 50-80 years after the events of The Finals, so whatever is the state of the world in the early 2100s with The Finals is still entirely implied. The only details you can get is what >>2071835 mentions, with seeing what the state of the ruins might imply about the state of the world pre-collapse.

The most that Arc would do is a sense of "what does it matter if all of this is gonna end crushed under the heels of some robot takeover, or at best continued by some rich assholes in space," which I'd disagree with in terms of invalidating the world of The Finals, but at least there's some logic there in that.
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>>2071844
I do kinda feel that way. For me it's more interesting that the Finals is sort of underlyingly sinister with this goofy coat of paint on it to sanitize it. Rather than in Arc where it's very clear who the enemy is.
It also makes what CNS is doing less interesting, all the hacking in and fucking with it and telling people to open their eyes shit that they do. So if it all just ends in a robot apocalypse then what's the point?
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>>2072901
>So if it all just ends in a robot apocalypse then what's the point?
I chuckle at the idea that one day they'll just reveal an underground shelter and it's just everyone playing on a CNS private server for The Finals. That's what it amounts to.

On that note, shit I just kinda realized how impossible this game would be to save if the servers went down. It's already hard enough analyzing captured traffic for other games, but no way in hell is anyone reverse engineering the physics and destruction that all works on the backend
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shit, i really wanna use the P90, but the stricter range and lower inaccuracy tolerance is a ball crusher
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>>2075743
Just play into its strengths.
The p90 is pretty fucking obnoxious and I dread running into multi medium teams using the god damn thing because it's a laserbeam.
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>teammate tells me not to play dual swords
>im the only one with a positive KD/R and have the highest support score
eat shit and dont tell me what to do
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>>2076285
>lightweight retard caring about KDR and not objective
lightniggers never change, true cancer of the game
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>>2075746
>because it's a laserbeam.
That's my problem though. I swear, the more erratic recoil of the other automatics account for my retardation, whereas the P90 is actually accurate, so it shoots where I point (not good) and shoots fast enough that you lose a lot of bullets that way
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>>2076285
I am convinced a lot of underage kids play this game because that also happens to me a lot.
>"x gun is bad, do not play it!"
>he preforms worse with the most souless meta loadout
>"team ccome to objective!"
>as me and a teammate are attacking a cashout while he's opening a vault that we won't have time to cash in because the round ends in less than a minute
They are all foul mouthed little assholes too. I had a little bastard throw a final round in WT because he wouldn't stop writing insults in the chat and got killed repeatedly over it. Neither of us interacted with him in chat.

they also often think I'm a woman for some reason. I dunno if I'm too soft spoken and come off feminine or if kids only interact with girls online these days and are already conditioned into simps but neither prospect makes me happy
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>>2076381
>light
>dual blades
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>next season is the finals china
>they're just gonna recycle the china exclusive battlepass
lmao
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>>2077833
I want the china stuff so it works out for me
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>>2077833
That Chun Li looking outfit looks nice though
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>>2077919
>volpe
nice
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>>2066066
I like eSports :)
I'm glad that Embark is dedicating some time to it. And hopefully it means that things will return to normal in a few days.
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>>2078421
Man, there's a lot of details I miss about Horizon because I'm too focused on the gameplay. Never noticed the glitched Finals logo on the wall before
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>>2077919
>OSPUZE
>Volpe
Shit, that's actually a really hard choice. Might still go with OSPUZE though, even though I already have a billion cosmetics for them.
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>>2078421
nice play anon!
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>>2078557
I will never understand the Ospuze obsession, Volpe is an easy decision
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>>2078852
You just haven't drank enough pro juice
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>>2078852
It's because OSPUZE is an obsession. It's the sponsor whose fans in-universe are extremely amped up and obsessed and what not. As such, most of the people who care about the sponsors end up with them, because you generally have to be amped up and obsessed to care about such things, so you're already a match to the OSPUZE mindset

And then for 90% of everyone else, it's just cuz they're generally the face of The Finals
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>>2078852
Shut yo corny ass up and drink some Ospuze: Sour core lil nigga
>>2076285
Dual swords are terrible and if you ever bring them in any ranked lobby above silver, there's a 95% chance you are going to get destroyed and be dead weight
Stop throwing lobbies, shitter
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>>2079053
I think you're just jealous because you aren't as skilled with the dual blades as anon is
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>>2079091
Nah, I don't use them because I actually like winning in ranked believe it or not
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>>2079106
I don't. Not even rankedtards enjoy winning in ranked.
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>>2079106
then don't project the fact that you are incapable of winning with the dual blades onto anon, who clearly can.
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>>2079124
Quit the cope, lil buddy
Swords are shit
They are not meta
You use them in Diamond lobbies and it will not matter how good you are with them, you WILL lose
Shitter
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>>2079136
Actually, what am I saying? No dual swords main has ever made it to Diamond, nvm
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>>2079136
still haven't proven you can even win in silver with them
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>>2079150
> Swords are really good in silver bot lobbies, bro!!!
Woah, you sure showed me there
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>>2079167
I'm just saying based on how you act you wouldn't even be able to beat a team of silvers with the swords, but you already knew that didn't you?
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ANONS, post your speculations and hopes for next season NOW.
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>>2079171
?
Your argument makes zero sense, are you being retarded on purpose? The swords are magically good if you can beat a gang of the absolute lowest ranks with them?
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>>2079188
I'll raise you a better question: if the swords are so good, can YOU beat a team of diamonds with them?
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>>2079188
I'm just saying that (you) don't have the ability to defeat even the lowest of the low with the swords so you become jealous of an anon who can effectively battle opponents of higher rank and choose to take out your frustrations on the weapon of choice.
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>>2079196
Nahhh, answer my question right here >>2079191 since you wanna talk all that good shit, buddy.
Don't run now, bitchboy.
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>>2079199
That's what I've been saying this whole time back since post >>2079091
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>>2079199
Also, the earlier anon you're referring to didn't say a single thing about being able to "effectively battle opponents of higher rank" with them, bozo
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>>2079208
He does battle honorably, do you?
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>>2079185
I'll start since you fags are too busy having a shitfit, I'm speculating we'll be fighting in beijing or a city of similar density for destruction purposes and spectacle. I am also hoping based on the new rifle in the preview picture that we might get the gadgets and goodies from the chinese client, such as that neat grenade mentioned in the previous thread, some chinese martial arts would also be a welcome addition.
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>>2079212
> Schizo rambling about "honor", which has nothing to do with ranked
>> STILL not answering my question about your confidence in facing off against three, meta-abusing Diamonds while you're stuck on Dual swords like an idiot
I accept your concession.
GG shitter
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>>2079185
I really hope they don't release a new chinese map. Release a new generic stadium or something more fantastical. I don't want Kyoto 2.0
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>>2079224
>can only fight with dishonorable weapons such as rifled guns and the like
I also accept your concession, it's a draw
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>>2079226
I can see the worry about that, but it could also be set in modern day, future or not so ancient china.
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is this game worth getting into?
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>>2079303
yeah it's a ton of fun
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>>2079231
>modern day
Don't need another Seoul
>future
Don't need another Nozomi
>or not so ancient china
Fuck that, give me neolithic unga bunga china
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>>2079308
stone age china map coming right up
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>>2079312
>it's just 2025 Beijing but set outside of it
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IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANCIENT GREECE
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>>2079323
*AFRICA
DAS
RITE!!!
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>>2079365
DAS RITE!
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>>2079365
An Africa season would unironically be a lot of fun. There's a lot of African outfits that would be a lot of fun, ranging from ooga booga masks to textile grabbags, and a map like Kano would fit in a similar vein to Bernal while being visually distinct thanks to stuff like the mosque and the ancient walls. Not to mention all the shitposting we'd squeeze out of it.

Although of course there's no way they'd be able to get away with it, so they'd need to do an equivalent season in Peru or some shit.
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>>2079378
I believe that they could pull it off
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>>2079185
Fantasy slop map, with a castle, lava and nigger goblin villiage to attract that last morsel of DnD fags that stopped playing once they finished colledge and now play onlime shooters with friends instead, because everyone moved away or is slaving 6 days a week for historical reference: this is what actual projection looks like
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>>2079395
that's an interesting one I'm surprised they haven't tried yet, considering they have done fantasy monsters and DND related cosmetics.
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>>2079395
also
>spoiler
don't go trying to set him off again
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Swords are shit, you have better luck winning by using dagger light and dashing inside people
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>>2079303
no
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>>2079185
They'll copy and paste the china exclusive battlepass and announce a chinese only eSport tournament. Season 9 is all about marketing to the eastern market since they're doing a better job. For the new weapons I forsee a new light gun and a medium gun. Or none at all since they'll focus on the map
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>>2058687
This game is two years old now I believe and they've just consistently undermined everything that made the game fun in the first place.
Instead of iterating on the chaotic and fun elements, they've hyper focused on nerfing anything which isn't strictly left clicking heads. And they added TDM...
I'd be shocked if Nexon isn't already planning the shut down. They're notorious for how quickly they'll kill other games when they manage to get a hit like Arc Raiders has been.

Its so sad how much they changed this game to satisfy the cod-heads, only to see the cod-heads bail when the newest iteration of their preferred slop releases.
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>>2066226
Hosting and managing this shit costs money that could instead go to development. Are you being retarded on purpose?
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>>2079657
I actually enjoy TDM, I never liked Bank It since the beta and the only reason I'd play it was as a TDM-lite warmup before going into the other modes.
I don't get why people have a hateboner for it, some gamemodes should be present in an FPS
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Dual swords are a fun opener and litmus test for a lobby. Of course only in WT where you can switch to something else if an inexperienced lobby learns that shootong into your blocking kills them lol
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>>2079303
Yeah, it's free and a lot of fun. There's 0 barrier to entry.
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Let's get a Brazil map, i think that'd be pretty cool.
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Any time that we're playing power shift, on Monaco, and we spawn on the North side, and we walk across the one roof in front of the cathedral door WITHOUT one of the mediums slamming down a jump pad, I get physically disgusted
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w608cur95LQ
music preview
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Sorry, posted wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rShjZ_op1V8
Actual S9 Music
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>>2080639
Was really disappointed when Arc Raiders didnt have nearly as kino music as The Finals consistently does
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>>2057970
> Be me, solo player
> Make it to Emerald multiple seasons, despite retarded teammates going swords, no defib, spear, sniper
> Get bored
> Say "Fuck it" and try ranked
> Can't even make it past Silver, because everytime I get retarded teammates going swords, no defib, spear, sniper my MMR is absolutely obliterated
Moral of the story:
Fuck this dogshit playerbase.
If you're a solo, WT is the absolute best mode for you, you will be shielded against the inevitably of random teammates throwing.
This game isn't more popular because of drooling mouthbreathers smashing their foreheads on their keyboards ruin matches for everyone.
Fucking bullshit, man.
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>>2080679
*ruining
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>>2080679
world tour rank is just based on playtime really. not a representation of skill
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>>2080738
Playtime is a generally good indicator of skill, idk where you pulled that argument out of your ass
It's overwhelmingly likely a guy with 500 hours logged in as is Emerald or Plat is going to be far better than another guy with 200 hours and sticks to quick play
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>>2080792
**and is
**who sticks to
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>>2080679
world tour has no real bearing on skill, you can just mash your head in wt for hours on end and reach em1 no problem, especially since wins aren't required to reach emerald ranks anymore

If you can't get past silver in ranked that's a you problem though, sure your teammates blow but your enemies are even worse
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>>2080792
>Playtime is a generally good indicator of skill
not always and especially not in this game, wt, quick play and ranked play all rather differently.
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>>2080839
> world tour has no real bearing on skill
Still waiting for your source and not your anecdotal opinion, kiddo
Proof?
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>>2080842
Playtime is playtime, dude.
I don't give a fuck what gamemode I'm in, there's no way in hell I'm going to see someone level 90-100 with a pink badge signaling over 10k eliminations and think to myself: "Nah, this guy probably isn't good at the game because he doesn't have a shiny ruby badge"
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>>2080906
AKTUALLY the amethyst badge you're referring to is for over 50k elims, the diamond one is for over 25k, and plat would be over 10k.

But yeah, your point is right desu. I don't know what copium these retards are huffing that makes them believe playtime != skill, that is profound levels of mental retardation which should not be possible
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>>2080842
>wt, quick play and ranked play all rather differentl
True, but that leans more towards the fact that they're all individually different skill tests. Someone who's good as Ranked isn't as equipped to handle the constant adaptation of World Tour or the third party frantic hellscape of Quick Cash. The only major mode that everyone can agree on as being uber casual is Power Shift, mostly because it's the only one where it patently gets worse the more you sweat.
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>>2080982
I think the issue here is that there's a lot of underdeveloped brains that legitimately believe "Ruby/Diamond player = GUARANTEED GOOD, Emerald player = GUARANTEED BAD, PARTICIPATION AWARD" even though if you're steaming dogshit in either Ranked/World Tour, you'll likely never hit Ruby, Diamond, OR Emerald
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so is sniping coonsidered griefing in this game?
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>>2081393
depends, can the person using the sniper rifle hit their shots?
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Jesus struck a chord with all you retard
I'm not saying Emeralds are bad, all i'm saying is that an emerald badge had no actual bearing on skill
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>>2081522
> all i'm saying is that an emerald badge has no actual bearing on skill
Still waiting for your source and not your anecdotal opinion, kiddo
Proof? x2
The only thing you're implying is that if someone is Emerald they got there because they aren't skilled, but if someone is Plat or higher, they got there through absolute skill even though in reality they could be getting hardcarried in a stack 24/7
If Emerald has no actual bearing on skill, then no badge period has any actual bearing on skill
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>>2081558
>if someone is Emerald they got there because they aren't skilled, but if someone is Plat or higher, they got there through absolute skill even though in reality they could be getting hardcarried in a stack 24/7
And that isn't possible in WT because?
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>>2081522
Hey buddy, little tip: don't try to use expressions when you're an ESL. You've ended up using the wrong one and exposing yourself, losing all credibility in the process.
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>>2081582
>ESL ESL
Pathetic that you can't come up with any meaningul counter argument
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>>2081585
meaningful*
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>>2081558
Also
>>>2080679
>gets to Em1 multiple seasons, even with bad teammates
>can't get past silver
I mean, there's your answer
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>>2081586
lol, lmao even
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>>2081588
Slow down, cumface.
I've only played ranked for two weeks and I am in Silver because the quality of my teammates is consistently shit, giving me no incentive to keep grinding.
I did not say I CANNOT get past Silver because I am bad/unskilled.
I don't even know why you would come up with such a moronic implication. If Emerald is that piss easy and low-skill according to your egotistical mindset, then why doesn't everyone have an Emerald background/charm/weapon skin in every single lobby?
I think playtime more than anything determines how good a player is, as many others have said so far.
I don't give a fuck if you're Diamond or whatever gay rank you think makes you an unkillable god, I'd much rather fight you than fight someone with multiple Amethyst badges but is mysteriously unranked.
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>>2081630
Ok sure, piss for brains, you have what I'm assuming is hundreds of hours in WT and other quick play modes, yet in TWO weeks you couldn't climb to gold?
> If Emerald is that piss easy and low-skill according to your egotistical mindset, then why doesn't everyone have an Emerald background/charm/weapon skin in every single lobby?
the most idiotic thing you've ever written. First of all because you can customize your badges and backgrounds. Secondly, I for example, have 1k+,hours in this game, and that's not counting the 160ish or so from the beta tests and I simply don't play WT because I find it boring and mostly play ranked.
>I'd much rather fight you than fight someone with multiple Amethyst badges but is mysteriously unranked.
You can farm kills in quick play easily. Hell, just today I did a 19-2 after not having touched this game in weeks.
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Rankoids are clearly never going to beat the mental illness allegations
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>>2081663
competitive game sweeaty, git gud or stay mad
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2081671

mental illness or gpt post, call it
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Since the meta encourages collusion, is Embark just going to let them do that shit during the major? Won't that make the game look fucking awful?
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servers are down
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>>2081659
I didn't read all of your shitty rant, homo.
You don't get to tell ME why I don't feel motivated to play ranked.
Fuck off with your control freak bullshit, loser.
You don't like Emerald? Too bad.
You think it doesn't take skill? Too bad.
And ironically, you aren't even Emerald yourself, yet here you are talking all this deranged bullshit about Emerald players.
Jump off a cliff, dude. For real kek.
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>>2082850
"Emerald is so easy!!! Anyone can be Emerald, it doesn't take skill!" - Retard who's never been Emerald
In fact, you know what? Let me throw your autism right back in your face.
*Ahem*
Ok sure, piss for brains, you have what I'm assuming is hundreds of hours in Ranked and other modes, yet in multiple seasons you couldn't climb to Emerald?
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Do the Chinese even celebrate Christmas. Why would they get the Christmas season.
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>>2082850
>>2082854
Retard's having a little meltie over the fact he's ass lol
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>>2082873
Cuz the chink version of The Finals is doing better numbers than the world wide so they need to appeal to the grorious CCP empire.
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>>2082192
>Won't that make the game look fucking awful?
Yep
>is Embark just going to let them do that shit during the major?
Already happened once with the twitch Rivals event. And to an extent, to the closed qualifiers, but that was also mismanaged.
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>>2082881
Yes. You got me, bro.
I am melting down because Emerald is clearly an incredibly easy WT rank everyone has made it to- which is obviously why everyone in The Finals has Emerald gear
You can only be good at The Finals if you're Ruby or Diamond, right schizo?
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>>2082894
Chill out fag, you must be hella mad because it's true
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>>2082873
Why wouldn't santa's elves in his workshop celebrate christmas?
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>>2082901
Sure, man
Anyone who's not <Insert rank> you like is terrible at the game, and this includes Emeralds and unranked players with 1000s of hours of playtime and Diamond-Amethyst badges
Lol
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>>2082873
Christmas is non-secular. Non-christians celebrate it all the time. Santa and the elves and shit have nothing to do with Jesus
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>>2081659
>>> You can farm kills in quick play easily. Hell, just today I did a 19-2
this mf did not just imply the pink badges that usually mean you're about to get wafflestomped and take 50k kills or some shit are super easy to get just because he farmed a few kills in QP
holy fuck, kill this braindead playerbase
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>>2082942
I said nothing about Jesus you dingus.
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>>2082924
>>2082950

yeah
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>>2082873
just because the season starts in December doesn't mean they won't still do a Christmas event
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>>2082957
source?
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>>2082970
Yes anon, that is the fact onto which that post is predicated upon
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>>2082952
>why do non-christians celebrate christmas?
>here's why
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>>2082985
So are you saying that season china is out of place for a December launch?
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>>2082873
i remember telling by mistake a chinese girl merry christmas and she got offended
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>>2083010
Based Chinawoman
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>>2082993
>why do non-christians celebrate christmas
That wasn't the post, you ESL. Not every non-christian culture celebrates secular Christmas.
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i have about 5 hours into the game. the map with chinese architectture with crawlspaces under the buildings is atrocious. also, should i replace my sonar or glitch nade with the vortex?
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>>2083039
>do chinese people celebrate christmas
>yes and here's why
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>>2083060
Sonar is really good, and vortex is really bad so no
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>>2083064
>do chinese people celebrate christmas
>yes
Not mentioned until now, you dingus. I fart on you. I fart on you so hard that you die, and then continue farting.
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>>2083075
Go to the bathroom.
NOW.
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>>2083075
>Do the Chinese even celebrate Christmas
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>>2083338
>Do the Chinese even celebrate Christmas
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>>2082915
I ho ho ho'd
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>>2083349
Yes!
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quite a vague preview today, could mean anything really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrp30KyncUk?feature=share
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>>2083428
>changes are coming
>full reveal has the map pull out so they can draw the 9-dash line on it
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>>2083060
Keep the nades and get the healing gadget
Even after the nerf, it's decent utility to have
Spec and weapon to flavor, try out whatever you want
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>>2083428
8v8?
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>>2079185
John Woo and classic kung fu action movie themes, 80's Hong Kong map
Also I need Christian Bale Akimbo Heavy so bad, please Embark
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>>2084435
gonna be more templeslop, the devs went to chink land to get pics of temples
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JCOJfIMaao
5v5 cashout?
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>>2084897
Hell yeah
THEY'RE BRINGING BACK TERMINAL ATTACK
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>>2084897
Sick. World Tour is fucking unbearable right now and head to head is a little too small for my liking. 5v5 would be fun. Although I worry that the first team to start it would be able defend too easily
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>>2084484
SIKE NIGGA, IT'S 80'S HK URBAN KINO LIKE I SAID
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>2085808
proof?
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we watching the grand major?
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>>2085854
Already got em all so, no, not anymore
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>>2085854
Caught a few matches, seen insane throws like vanguard's first match that made me think they bet against their own team.
Overall it's pretty boring, every single engagement has played the exact same because it's all controller players instagibbing each other cqc with the same 3 weapons.
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>>2085854
Watched some of it. Didn't really catch my interest. It was a good showing of execution and coordination, but the actual strategies at play were starting to put me to sleep. It's a shame, because the occasion that a team actually would break the mould and go for the big plays, they would be rewarded for it, but otherwise it was the same issue you get with a lot of competitive play: teams won't go for the moves that are both more interesting to watch AND more effective as well, as they're just not as safe and consistent.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPTj7P_bIc8?feature=share
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>>2085828
tomorrow
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>>2086223
Chongqing map?
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>>2085854
THE GRAND MAJOR?!
BUT A RETARD IN HERE CLAIMED THE FINALS WASN'T TRYING TO BECOME AN ESPORTS GAME??
THE MAJOR IS GOING TO BE A ONE AND DONE THING, BROS
TRUST THE SCHIZO RETARD
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>>2086396
lol, obsessed
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>>2086418
> Shit pants in public
> Uh, bro...you just shit your pants like a retard
> Hey, obsessed
Retard shitter
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>>2086446
bro you are all-caps screeching about someone almost 2 weeks later
you are OBSESSED
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>>2086449
*unprompted too
that's how you know it's obsession
>>2086446
this is describing reaction
>>2086396
THIS is categorically obsession
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>>2086449
>>2086450
Remind me again
Where's the proof this is going to be the final grand major from a game that isn't trying to be an eSport??
I'm waiting, bitchtits
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>>2086458
>this is going to be the final grand major
>final grand major
God you've been obsessed over this for almost 2 weeks and you still don't even know what people said

No one said "this was the final grand major"
What was said was "until there's a full on league/Embark is balancing around it, then this isn't an eSport and the Major is just the big tournament for the year." If we get full leagues/circuits after this, then congrats, it's becoming an eSport. Until then, it's not. That's just reality.

I'm sure that if we DO get any eSport news, you'll be the first to let me know, as apparently you'll be butthurt and fucking OBSESSED about it until then, but the funniest part is that it still won't prove me wrong or anything, because my posts basically just amount to "wait and see first, faggot"
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>>2086480
> Backtracking once more
> Further projection
As usual, I accept your concession
*Yawn*
NEXT.
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>>2086484
>>2086480
both of you are wrong, the finals is a GAME SHOW
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>>2086484
Alright, like I said, continue to be obsessed like you have been for the past two weeks.
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>>2086498
>> Alright
Good pup, I've glad you've come to terms with your lot in life. As a reward for your willing concession to your benevolent master, I'll allow you a few scraps from my table tonight.
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Let this be a lesson to you all. If you begin to care about eSports like this faggot
2086520
You'll become a schizo tranny that can't even engage in normal discussion anymore, and the only recourse your HRT-addled mind would be able to cook up in response to getting BTFO would be to insert other anons into your fantasies of faggotry

Be safe out there. Stick to World Tour and you should be fine.
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>>2086586
> So mindbroken that your terminally online brain immediately brings up trannies because you lost an internet argument
You're my bitch.
I can make you dance any time I want to, pup.
Roll over, fido.
NOW.
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I liked it desu. I thought it was fun to watch. I hope Embark doesn't cater too hard to the pro scene though, because the game is already niche and small. And that's an even smaller subsection of the playerbase.
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>NBA Cup
what is that and why should I care?
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I'm getting all these ads while watching THE FINALS major replays. Honestly, it looks boring as shit so not worth looking for 4th Party Cashbox.
Kinda kino that the audience noise is real instead of in-game during matches.
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>>2057970
I'm salty they are wasting so much money in this random fucking major, look at the other games that try to force an sports scene, if blizzard failed what makes you think you can? is just a waste of money, the people that watch majors are already playing your game, you wont get any new people with this.
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>>2086723
Sounds like you just don't quite like the game, if you think that it has to be "forced" in the same way that Blizzard forced Overwatch League
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>>2086715
Wrong board
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Is there any cashout stealing strat left that isn't killing the entirety of the oposing team?
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>>2086725
I mean, considering how ultimately the OWL was a dud, technically Blizzard also "forced" esports on OW
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>>2086864
just stealing still works
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Today's game is gonna be legendary
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New season video, Hong Kong is on the menu, boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwQlThIa4f8
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>>2086833
I keep seeing that ad on Twitch. I don't even watch sports.
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>>2087525
>ksg buff
>lever action buff
>rush game mode
blessed update
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>>2087617
Oh. Well not even NBA fans care about it. It's an in-season tournament that the NBA came up with since NBA fans notoriously don't watch regular season games. So they made this forced tournament where in the middle of the season you can win this trophy.

It's fake and forced, and literally no one cares, not even the players. The NBA finals are still the most prestigious and the cup is a huge waste of time and money.
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>>2087525
>just add rush
fucking finally
>ranked and WT share the rewards
I mean, ok? Atleast I can play ranked when the weekly WT mode sucks
>double jeopardy
thank the fucking lord, now the top team can't just force a double and fuck over the second place
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NTMR won
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>already announcing the grand major for 2026
man they're confident. I guess arc raiders doing monumentally well has lifted any pressure they previously had.
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>>2088050
NTR won
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The Chinals
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>>2087731
If the players don't care, why even advertise it? No one cares about competitive PUBG mobile either but I'm not bombarded by their ads.
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>>2088226
I dunno if it has anything to do with Arc Raiders; I'd assume if you can do one Major, you'll already be planning about doing the next. The interesting bit will be if they expand to other tourneys and such throughout the rest of the year.
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>>2088226
>man they're confident.
I sure as shit wouldn't be after the last one.

I've never seen a more boring display of a videogame, they somehow managed to make an esport equivalent of paint drying with how the matches played out.
Some serious meta shakeups need to happen, and potentially destruction of controller autoaim if you ever want to see anything more than 6 people rolling the dice on who instantly kills who in the 2 nanosecond gateway grenade brawl.
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>>2087525
>Sponsors are now completely unlocked
That's honestly a bit disappointing. Felt like they struck the perfect balance for having exclusive rewards.
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>>2087932
Yeah, I really do like the double jeopardy changes. Seems like they found the perfect solution to get ranked babies to stop bitching all the time while preserving most of the things about the last minute lunges for the finish line that double stacks can provide. Although, I say "most," because some of the best moments of the game came from using the deposit bonus to lurch over the finish line with the people cashing out, and now that can't be the case.
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>smooth destruction on Monaco
Watching the building slide into the other made me cum
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i wasnt expecting the map to be so urban
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>>2088528
Because the NBA is a business. And they want to make more money by getting people to care. If they can make the cup mean something then they can raise prices up for those games even higher and get more ratings and sell more ads.
It's just really stupid and everyone sees through it and nobody cares. In 20 years when you see a player's stat page and see they've won 2 or 3 cups literally no one will care because it's not the finals.
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THE nba FINALS
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>>2083060
Actual retard
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This game is absurdly stale.
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>>2089199
Video games are not bread
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>>2089199
S9 genuinely looks great.
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>>2089245
I do wonder how rush is going to work, 8 v 8 has the potential for a silly amount of chaos the game might not work at
imagine eight guys demat-ing entire buildings at once, or eight sets of goo grenades spawning a goo fortress in seconds
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>>2089199
Ironically this is also the best state the game has ever been in.
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>>2057970
...So- what the hell is supposed to happen between now and the next Grand Major in 2026? What is there to stop any current pro teams and organizations from leaving The Finals?
There isn't going to be more events outside of the seemingly yearly Grand Majors, so what is the point in hanging around?
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>>2089368
*isn't going to be any more PRO events, I should clarify
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>>2089368
There are independent pro leagues, they've been a thing for a while and it's where all these guys started.
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>>2089368
Embark's gameplan has always just been to fuck around while playing fast and loose with the game as anything more than, well, a video game. They're 9 seasons in and they still haven't fully figured out the best way to handle even just RS gains and losses for Competitive, let alone anything for eSports. It's hard to believe they give much of a shit and will just hope there's enough teams interested in playing a year from now, and will just focus on making the game bigger and more chaotic instead.

Granted, they were able to get the Major going without much lead up to it on their part either, so it's not completely unthinkable.
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>>2089373
> There are independent pro leagues
I am a retard, what does that mean? I already recognize a few pro league teams like TSM and SSG because they're in other eSports games, but what will The Finals versions of these teams be doing? Just...idk, scrimming until 2026? They literally will not have anything else to do, like wtf?
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>>2089398
>I am a retard, what does that mean?
It means there's already been tournaments and stuff held for the Finals in the past. But it was all community driven and organized by the niche competitive scene. The only thing different about the grand major is that it's something actually organized and held by Embark.
Small community run events will still be happening without Embark's direct involvement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpJ3ccdPsvc
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>>2089424
It's honestly great to see, and the best standard to have: all the leagues n' shit coming out of the community and their genuine interest instead of being forced by corporate to be an esport, culminating in a big tournament where they can actually flaunt their stuff
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>>2089199
It updates every few days with cosmetics. Some content and challenges evey week. Event every two weeks.
Compared to Total War that I also picked up this year, It's breaknecking pace (it might get some contwnt this year, and maybe fixes a 2 year old bug). What are you on about?
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>>2089519
> Total War
You better not be a 40k player or I'll shit in your mouth
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>>2089530
I'm not part of either side of that discussion. I'm a mentally sane, non-terminally online gamer so I can engage with a medium without touching the fandom.
Histfags hate fantasyfags.
Fantasyfags hate 40Keks.
40Keks will hate modernWarfareBabs or whatever comes next.
Such is the nature of this board.
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>>2089424
Thanks for posting that link that actually had some high level gameplay and team compositions.

In the tournament I watched the last day briefly and it was so unimpressive. I feel like those teams were worse than average diamond lobbies.

Every light was using the burst pistol. I know its strong rn but a sniper would have been legit a perfect anti-light weapon and no teams ran any sort of strategy just really samey?

Were the good players just not qualifying as a team because I did not see any individual lights or high level mechanics at all just very safe close range team fights where mostly just decided by hipfire

I also saw multiple lights running cloak and vanish bomb. I can turn my render down via the settings ini and I can see cloak reliably across the map. It's like the teams were meta but for maybe last year. Best gadgets for light are healing infuser, goo / glitch (depending), Gateway. I have mained gateway since it cameout and its funny they don't even know to lay it on the cash box so when it opens it auto goes through your portal. Little things like that showed me no really good players were there but mainly just closely following 3 stack team / winch someone kill it then death ball the rest.

I taunted balisey about throwing that statue off and I got him to add me as a friend so we can 1v1. I am going to use bow light and rape him. Pros get so comfy in their premade and meta weapons they don't know how to deal with one-shot weapons. Just all smg hip firing and panic dashing.

Anyway thanks for cumming 2 my ted talk
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>>2091006
I feel as though the words you typed are recognizable, yet due to your long, stilted rambling they are also incoherent
Take a few shots of cum to get energized, then try again
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>>2091006
Well in that video they're playing for like $200, and in the grand major the winning team took home almost $40k. So naturally they're going to be more risk averse when playing for so much money.
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>>2091324
I understand risk aversion, but my main point was not even meta mechanics. Like using the gateway to auto-port the cash box instead of throwing it to the side. Those few seconds can be game changing at a high level since it will distract people when they see the cashbox move 500 meters instantly they will react and can use that to bait teams.

Using cloak when most people lower render settings and can easily cross map snipe you. I saw cloak as a specialization too not just vanish bomb which hasn't ever been meta since the cloak rework.

Even the casters said verbatim "I know we are not seeing a lot of flashy plays, but this means everyone can play at the caliber" When I watch a pros I expect to be wowed but however the qualifying worked they didn't get the best players by a long shot.

Using high skill cap weapons doesn't have a risk if you are a high level mechanical player. Every single fight was basically just close range hip-fire.

But there are team comps that are really strong right now like LLH with a heavy. Double gateway him ontop of a team spam heal him works really really well in coordinated teams for final round situations.

I guess I was excited to see how the pros play at the tippy top and was boring all samey no cracked players hitting 1 taps
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Better to grind ranked with crossplay on or off? Better team mates
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>>2091536
On.
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>>2091536
On is a mixed bag before a certain point.
Prior to platinum your roller players are more likely to be super inters, after they'll be 1v3ing repeatedly.
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>>2091536
Controller players who get good with the aim assist / gyro controls can generally keep up with MnK these days.
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>>2091536
On but because otherwise, matchmaking times are really fuckin long
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>>2087525
>attackers vs defenders with sequenced objectives
Dirty Bomb bros we are so fucking back!
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Now that arc raiders blew up they are just gonna ignore the finals right
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>>2092607
Yeah. It's fully over. The Finals is dead. You can satisfyingly leave and never come back.
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>>2092607
Its different teams working on each. No reason to abandon the Finals when they still make a ton of money off cosmetics
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I feel like Nozomi would be a pretty good target for a map touch-up. Unlike Vegas, it could actually benefit from a small touch-up for visual clarity and making individual interiors a lot more distinct. Not that it needs it, but it'd certainly benefit. Plus, doing Sponsor Citadel would be a perfect fit for the lore.
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>>2092607
Yes.
Now stop playing and leave the game and these threads forever, homoshit
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ummm, I mean, NTMR stinks! I wanted SSG to win!
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The Tchinals!
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>>2092607
I was scrolling through the board and I was surprised to see a finals thread with replies. I figured this shit became abandonware a while ago. It was fun for 2 weeks before people figured out the boring meta
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>>2094576
They're all complaining in different flavours of "No, this game is DEAD" and "No, this game is ALIVE, you're doomposting"
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>>2094576
????
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>>2093930
I had no idea it was pronounced Nightmare until I saw the stream, what a stupid name.
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>>2094576
The Finals doesn't have a meta, it has a muta.
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>>2096097
a muta?
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>going against triple light team
>sniper, knives and bow
>they all flick aim headshots
What is even the counterplay here? Cloak double barrel? They delete us at any other range.
>>2094709
I know I winge and complain a lot because a silly high ttk game with disruption devolved into the above meta, but I'll honestly keep playing as long as they don't touch the destruction tools with a heavy hand. and as long as I can keep my friends playing, pubs are so wierd and teamplay too important
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>>2097942
Just wall them out with shields and good, using Mesh and Gateway to move across any open zones. If they can't pop out after popping in, they're dead, as even fully charged bow headshot TTK will be beaten out by most other weapons in the other two classes. Toss in the Lockbolt for good measure, or use Glitch Traps and Barrels
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>>2057970
I haven't played in like atleast 9 or 8 months, has there been any major changes
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>>2098293
Hammer one shots lights
No thermal vision anymore
Heavy got a long range option (it's ass)
Riot shield hitbox fixed to the visual object finally
Destruction overhaul on a few maps
5 new midgame events
A nerf or two to every non damaging non light class accessible gadget you can think of
I think that about sums it up
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this game is fun but I have to uninstall until I get a pc that can run it properly
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>>2099351
fair enough
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>>2099351
It's fucky with drivers too. Rolling back the drivers about 2 years gave me a 40fps boost.
I don't think the devs updated their drivers on the development computers since they started making the game
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>>2097942
Winch and SA/ShAK
Or good ol glitchmine and cerberus
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>>2099343
>Heavy got a long range option (it's ass)
? The BFR is very good

>>2099417
I'll always be mad that I used to be able to run this game with a stable 120 fps back in the betas/release and now I can't. But I will say, they fucking finally managed to put out ONE optimization patch that actually gave me 20fps back. Finally
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>>2100101
It's decent at mid range where you can unload fast but as a long range option is is ass because of lack of scopes and insane recoil
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>>2098109
>>2100096
That works for one of them, but if I round a corner and see them, my 350 hp is gone in the next frame.
I thought it over in the meanwhile and I think what gave us trouble is that they stuck together and had the burst potential to shave a team member off us imediately. And sticking to the team is not typical for lights, less so for a team of lights.
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>>2100319
If you run into 3 lights by yourself, yeah you're gonna die. Stick with your team pretty easy for a med to rez whoever they focused.

Or like others suggested just play cashout fortify it with barricade / goo and just play a room lights have no answer for that.

Can even just wait for one light to start stealing and just get a free winch and kill. Also redbarrel into 3 lights stacked on each other is basically a gg team fight
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>>2100101
Correct me if I am wrong but none of the pro teams used it. Medium has repeater which was used by the top winning team, and heavy either played shak or shotgun
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I wish we saw some lights frag out with the bow or throwing knives. But every little sweaty stinky light is using burst pistol and maybe an SMG. Where are the aim gods and why don't they play the finals?
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>>2101750
BFR was banned for the tournament
P90 wasn't because that weapon is the real ass of S8, worse than AKM, FCAR and FAMAS in all aspects
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>>2101755
The movement and netcode is ass, all the god aimers are playing either Apex or Valorant
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I didn't realize Trentila's mask was separate from the helmet. I fucked up so hard picking Holtow
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>>2100310
Skill issue, BFR is a natural counter against Snipers, it's also great for maps like Kyoto
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>>2101899
I like it, but then there's a good CNS version in the shop, and it's not like it matters anymore given that Sponsors will be free to swap between in a week. It'll just be a massive grind.
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>>2099343
>Hammer one shots lights
Noice
>No thermal vision anymore
Honestly never even used that lmfao
>Heavy got a long range option (it's ass)
Not sure which one you mean, the minigun or pistol?
>A nerf or two to every non damaging non light class accessible gadget you can think of
Oh well..

>>2099417
>>2100101
This is so real, i just got back into the game and feels noticably worse, but im meant to have a new GPU arriving soon so should fix the sub 60 fps dips i get.
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>>2102028
He means the BFR Titan, which has some pretty good damage and doesn't experience any falloff until 30m out, but it's aggressively slow to fire, absolutely demands headshots to have a usable TTK, and has one of the slowest reloads in the game, so it's a bit of a meme unless you become a god with it specifically, so pretty much the same as Heavy's other existing long-range options.
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>>2101755
What happened to the V9S?
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>>2102163
They kept buffing the 93R so it'd be pretty strong and accurate at range with minimal falloff, and generally any Light player will take being able to stay away than something that's able to kill quicker but requires you to get in. It doesn't help that, for the V9S, "getting in" means within 10m, and "killing faster" mostly only comes into play with bodyshots.

Although frankly even without the 93R, the V9S would probably lose to the Throwing Knives. The TTK is basically the same, you have infinite ammo, way better range, and while bullet dispersion exists while jumping, they otherwise have the stable accuracy effect. I'm honestly shocked nobody complains about them nowadays, considering how hated they were in S1 and how they basically only ever got buffed since then, but I guess everyone instead just settled on saying they're the goddest of gamers and thus would never die to a Light, even in a Light vs Light scenario.
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>>2102220
I could melt heavies from extremely far away with the V9S. Throwing knives most definitely do not have a longer range. Dmg falloff is meaningless when I doink 20 hits with a V9S while TKs are completely inaccurate from afar
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>>2102225
>TKs are completely inaccurate from afar
You just need to feel out the bullet drop and they're usable perfectly up to around 25-30m. Dispersion only really becomes a factor while jumping
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>>2102236
>25-30m
thats nothing. I can down anyone with the V9S from well over 100m if they have no cover
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>>2102242
>I can kill someone blatantly standing still out in the open
I would very well hope so, anon. Are you gonna tell me you can eat without swallowing your tongue?
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>>2102248
You cant do this with most weapons in the game, especially automatic one like the smg or your shitty little reddit knives
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>blast off rolls out
>having a blast
>zooming and blowing up and being blown up
>weeks pass
>it's a lot of sweats now
>chaining double jump and dash to stay in the air for half a minute
>0 ground time predetermined jumpad routes even
It's poetic in a way. It's just enough time for an event to showcase a modern issue.
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>>2102288
It's weird that you pretend to be interested in actual discussion but then quickly devolve into being ridiculous and calling things reddit
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>>2102028
hope your new GPU arrives soon anon
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>>2102293
hopefully that encourages them to switch out dash for grapple hook next time they roll it out
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>>2102293
You have a weird definition of sweats, man
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>>2102293
Sorry that years of being a soldier/demo main has made me cracked at using projectile weapons
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>>2101750
What >>2101891 said
if it was allowed, you could have expected atleast a few teams to run it, especially since mediums were running revolvers and repeaters

massive burst damage at range and upclose is great with the BFR
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>>2102220
I will always complain about the TKs but not because of the high damage

but because their headshot multiplier is retarded high for a weapon that can be spammed with infinite ammo. You get so many lucky headshots that do like, 120-130 hp and that's not even when charged. Fuck off, make it do 100 or less, and maybe it will be less retarded
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>>2102242
>I can down anyone with the V9S from well over 100m if they have no cover
do they also have brain damage? Is that a requirement for getting killed by the V9S?
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>>2102293
I got my rewards and promptly never touched the mode again, just like most of the LTMs they rolled out.
But getting gud != sweat
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>>2102220
The 93R is a weapon i'd consider OP. Too good at any range, zero recoil (can be said about every light weapon) and high damage. Reminds me of S3's XP
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>>2102312
ironing
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>>2102602
The concept of an infinite ammo weapon in general for this kind of game just feels ridiculous. It ruins one of my favorite things about combat: being able to recognize when they've fired enough bullets that they can't kill you anymore without reloading. It's super rewarding with how high TTK is and all the different kinds of reloads you can be dealing with, and melee combat completely relies on it.

The only kind I'd give a pass is the Bow, since if you can't hit your charged headshots, you end up shit creek, compared to yeah what you mention with the TKs where uncharged headshots does serious damage while freely spamming. It's basically the standard/better end of TTK for Lights to begin with, and minimal downsides.
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>>2102657
Throwing knives drive me up a fucking wall playing as light. I can spend all this time getting close with sword or shotguns or dagger and they accidentally headshot me for an insta kill.
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>>2102293
>mfw a shooter has literally any mechanical skill expression other than "aim lol"
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>>2102765
>>2102605
>>2102568
>>2102485
>>2102478
Maybe we aren't on the same page so I'll expand:
The modern issue is that (multiplayer versus) games start off with a certain gameplay loop in mind that is fun for the people that start playing it. Eventually however, new tactics, underutilized mechanics and skill levels allow a different level of play that is more effective. Over time this kind of gaming takes over the vast majority of the playerbase and turns it into a different game, at least in practice. The mechanics don't necesarrily chnge at all. It, however, becomes impossible to have a similiar experience for people just starting as the people that started at the begining. It's a differnent game now with different rules and tactics and skill floor. You might call it a meta at this point.
Nothing changed, but people who liked it at the begining might not like it anymore, and people that might've liked it can't justify the high skill entry requirements.
And there is nothing you can do about it. Playing like a retard on purpose is non justifiable for people. The best case scenario is people using offmeta equipment/honurable tactics and taking a penalty/disadvantage as a challenge, but these usually occur when people who've absolutely masted the system get bored and the game is effectively dead already so you might have a shot of enjoying a very old multiplayer game.

Blast off managed to condense this multi year process in just a few weeks. Not very accurately, because people that loathe the gamemode played it for cosmetics too, but everyone still playing it for fun mastered it beyond what someone who wants to clear challenges in the last week can ever achieve
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>>2102293
I still love launching into the match and getting a mutual rpg jousting kill, good fun
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>>2102828
Have you never played an old multiplyer game? Try playing Quake in 2025. Shit's not new and this game has fuck all players to begin with. You missed the train, unironically, so nut up and get good or fuck off pansy
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>>2102828
My first 20-30 hours of BF1 when it was past it's prime were quite shit, everyone would shit on me

but then I got good and adapted and started shitting on them.

The wheel turns, anon
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>>2101755
Because the burst pistol is insane and M&K players aren't needed in the pro tournaments due to controller autoaim.

Unlike say, apex, every fight is dictated point blank thanks to gateways, so abusing controller autoaim and mashing fire to delete someone is preferable to taking ranged engagements; which the enemy team will vehemently refuse to let you do.
This is kind of the fate of all games with aggressive autoaim, because having stick drift 0ms tracking is infinitely better than humans.
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>>2103680
>>2102765
I don't know what kind of issues you seem to be projectin onto me, but I'm sorry you went through that
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>>2102828
That's a lot of text. I'm not gonna read it.
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>>2102828
That's a lot of text. He's not gonna read it.
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>>2103712
>> Black woman as the CEO of any company
And they say video games are realistic nowadays!! LOL!!!
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>>2102828
My brother in christ you're malding this hard and having a melty because you didn't know that you could jump again after the dash. It's strictly a (You) problem. It's a basic mechanic.
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>>2103712
fucking swede faggots at least make her attractive or normal instead of a thug baboon
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>>2104921
Unfortunately they don't have any black queens in Sweden.
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>>2104910
Refer to >>2103967
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>>2102828
yeah but it'd still be cool if they switched dash for grapple hook, don't know why you included me
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>>2105226
The mode wouldn't work as well with grapple imo, you can't do side dodges with grapple, you need a grapple point.
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>>2105235
Not him, but this is easily solveable by adding suspended structures, or placing a ton of balloons while also increasing the size of the hooks
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>>2105243
The thing is that you have to be able to dash sideways, zooping diagonally feels off to me
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>>2105275
It's still sideways....from a certain point of view
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>>2102474
Came yesterday. Nice to take advantage of options besides low for once :)
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Feels good playing all the BAD light players as heavy (in TDM)
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Feels good playing all the BAD heavy players as light (in TDM)
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>>2105633
happy to hear
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Wish this season was over already why is it so fucking long
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>>2107293
It's the final week don't worry
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>>2105676
>>2106662
Mediumchads mog both
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>>2105116
jew
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>>2108533
Nah I don't think she is.
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>10 more years of the Finals, Embark has planned up to Season 19 already
We'll be eating so good bros
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I'm glad that the "stay as a party" feature exists. Does a lot to make the game feel a lot more alive, that you're playing with real people. In practice though, I've never had a time where a rando requested it and it wasn't already my last game of the night and I just had to walk away. Breaks my heart.
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>>2110115
It's extremely useful if in an already premade party of your buddies someone loses connection and recconects back into your match too
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>>2110115
I mean it took them how many seasons to implement it again?
I've used it, like, once and that's it but it's criminal it wasn't a thing at launch or even when they brought text chat ingame (still no allchat btw)
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>>2111225
epic. didnt know you could do that
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>>2111075
>still no allchat btw
Good. Text chat was already mostly a waste. Maybe 5% of people ever use it to coordinate or chat or what have you, whereas the other 95% are people that just want to bitch and moan. Having all-chat will just extend to more bitching and insults. It was better when everything was just pings and players coordinated non-verbally through them, gestures, sounds, and good ol' crouching
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>OSPUZE theme for the Ultimate Pass
>but it's for The Chinals
wew, almost had to spend money
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>>2111225
Sick play anon
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The bunny mask outfit in the new chinals bp is pretty cute anons. You know what time it is..
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>>2111610
Nah I wanna talk shit to the retards on the other teams. Not only is now censor enforced and will not send messages in the first place, but now they also NEED voice censorship JUST to use voice chat? Fuck off, always recording bullshit, you're part of the problem if you allow this shit to happen.

Can't deal with toxic teammates? There's a fucking mute button, pansy.
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>>2112493
>implying they weren't already recording your voice chat
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>>2112493
>Nah I wanna talk shit to the retards on the other teams
Hence
>Having all-chat will just extend to more bitching and insults

The game could use fewer fags like you that try to make the game a drag for others. You should focus on actually playing instead of being a nuisance.
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>>2112507
Maybe you should stick to singleplayer games
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>>2112551
Nta but anon, you have to realize by now; you're not the target audience. Anywhere. You're a liability. You'd get banned from anything anywhere as soon as they find some metric to find out what you're like. You're allowed in because of money but you're getting banned for life first chance they get an excuse to. Bans are getting more and more merciless.
If there was all chat and you said some toxic/rude shit in it, you're getting nuked. Seriously, read the aT&C of nexon.
In summary YOU should stick to singleplayer games.
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>>2112662
yeah but it's not because I wanna call somebody a nigger or fag, I can't even say fucking PISS without it being censored

in my native laungauge, it automatically filters a word that isn't a swearword, get the fuck outta here
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>>2112662
This is the kinda shit that pisses me off. Self moderation tools should always been available like they have been for ages. Banter is harmless fun and a fine part of online games. If it escalates to something bigger, just mute them. If they go beyond that and start trolling in game in some fashion, report them and more often than not they just get banned for harassment. Not everyone here is trying to spout nigger to anyone with ears.

Finals is a unique case where all chat wouldn't serve much of a purpose since for strat reasons, there aren't many case you'd want to call out to the other team. But that was also the case for things like many other popular fps games (TF2/Halo comes to mind if we're naming popular ones). Its the fact that its available as an option that makes things more socially engaging. Same goes for text chat since the ping system is actually super useful. I hate this super gimped social system it has in place on top of the recently enabled voice moderation shit. In every respect its fucking awful and is the reason most are using discord. Its just slightly below the restrictiveness nintendo uses.
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>>2112493
Same, every multiplayer shooter should have death mics. Even just a little bit of communication makes lobbies feel a lot more memorable
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>>2112551
Maybe you should keep focus on the actual game
>>2112869
>Banter is harmless fun
Indeed, but also you people generally have no idea what actual banter is like and constantly dip into being annoying and belligerent pricks.
>if it escalates to something bigger, just mute them
Nah, if they've decided to persist and be a nuisance in a way separate from playing the game and with disregard towards others, then they'll get the same in turn. It just so happens that the flip side is making them be bound by the same basic sense of sportsmanship that exists for literally any group game/activity in existence.
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>>2113240
You sound like you have zero idea how to handle irl confrontation. If you see something that bothers you, look away. If you hear something that bothers you, walk away or cover your ears. Instead it sounds like you're choosing to make something that bothers you every ones problem.

Know how this stuff used to play out in online games? Someone talks shit from an opposing team and then the player decides to dedicate the rest of the match stomping their shit in until they rage quit. Sometimes it works out, sometimes not. Hell sometimes there's a whole turn around and you make a friend who was originally hostile. But no, you want a sterile environment where everyone is wearing helmets, knee pads, and marked as a winner at the end of the day. Grow the fuck up man
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>>2113262
>You sound like you have zero idea how to handle irl confrontation
You sound like a pampered child that has no idea how to handle the consequences of their actions
>you want a sterile environment where everyone is wearing helmets, knee pads, and marked a winner
>grow the fuck up man
The absolute irony this statement. You want to be a nuisance to a shitton of people because you have a teenager's perception of how interactions work, while then going on to pitch a fit when people don't react the way you want. You want a safe environment with no recourse for acting like a little shit, instead of actually playing the video game.

And the kicker is
>Know how this stuff used to play out in online games?
Yeah, I do. I remember how it actually played out on dedicated servers and old PC multiplayer. You ended up getting your shit slapped for being a faggot. What you are describing is the age of console online multiplayer in the 7th Gen, back when moderation and kicking basically didn't exist, and everyone over the age of 14 thought you were a bunch of annoying childish shits back then too. You were just allowed to be a nuisance to everyone. THAT'S where the whole "just mute them" mindset comes from, because that was basically the only thing you could do on that platform.
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>>2113285
Better days, truly.
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>>2113285
Maybe stop being a faggot, just a thought
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What in the fuck is this moronic argument even about? Is one dude viscerally seething that he can't spam "NIGGERFAGGOT" in all chat at everybody whenever he loses?
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>>2113509
>all-chat enables bants and rivalry between opponents, it makes the game feel more alive
vs
>all-chat enables being annoying and belligerent between opponents, it drags down playing the game
shifting into
>you're just too much of a pussy to handle bants
>you're just too much of a retard to do actual bants
>just mute them if you don't like them
>just don't be a dick if you can't handle the reaction
And then they started making out like mwhmwha mhwmhmhwmwah mwwmhwhmwhmwmwahmwwahmwah
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>>2113520
I just really wanna call the other team retards, is that too much to ask
I can do that in TF2 and even CS
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>>2113520
Based argument summarizer
Let's all be gay and kiss eachother on the lips!!
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>>2113521
typical chimpclip braindead lightweight
>cant even steal because HP already too low for anything useful
shit fucking class
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another fps with op aim assist. why isnt input based matchmaking a thing?
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Lame.
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>>2113706
because who cares dude all multiplayer games are unfair due to visible and invisible factors, crying about inputs is like crying that your opposition in a sport are taller than you.
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>>2113851
What utter trite. Unless it's Ruby, the only weight a Ranked Skin has is as a souvenir of having played in the season it came out. Nothing about Diamond signals "mastery," let alone Platinum or Gold, and if "dedication" is reason enough to maintain exclusivity, then Emerald should remain restricted to World Tour Cashout as well.

Yet another instance of the ranked players being complete and total fragile crybabies
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>>2057970
I was just getting into the game when my GPU died. I'm now using a 12 year old gpu so it's unplayable. My 8 year old GPU could barely run it in a playable manner (I actually stopped playing because it felt like such dogshit to play with only 90 fps with fake frames).
Also it's been months and I'm a NEET so no replacement. I'm just waiting for the used GPUs on ebay to start going up in price as a knock-on effect before I can buy one because of the AI bullshit affecting ram.
Honestly I hate everything and want to kill myself, and I might. But that would be a waste. I wanna smash my monitors and ***** a gaming convention or something.
Anyway thanks for reading my blog.
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>>2114012
Yet another instance of the ranked players being complete and total fragile crybabies
...Is this really all that surprising? I'm pretty sure earlier in this very thread, or perhaps in the previous thread, some Diamond faggot was actually trying to argue that because he's Diamond he's automatically overwhelmingly likely to be better than a non-ranked Emerald player with hundreds of hours invested or a non-ranked sweat that isn't Emerald OR Diamond, but has multiple pink badges of doom and also hundreds of hours invested.

The truth is: in a game like The Finals, what influences your "climb" up the ranked ladder is essentially luck and 3rd partying, not absolute skill. But ranked pissbabies want to make it seem like it takes 500 IQ and maximum CS:GO-tiers of FPS mechanical skill mastery to hit (Insert rank here), which is obviously an outright lie.

It's sad, depressing levels of cope lol
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>>2114125
> Yet another instance of the ranked players being complete and total fragile crybabies
Forgot to greentext btw, whoops
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>>2113705
It's quick cash anon, chill out. Nothing's happening without the other teams wiped there anyway
>>2114030
I don't know what kind of medications you need, but you need them now. Seek medical assistance
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>>2114125
You can make your own luck, which is what separates the Rubies from the Diamonds, but unless you are in Ruby it is basically just whatever.
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>>2113520
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It'd be cool if they fixed the Matter in the patch tomorrow. It fulfills basically no niche as is.
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>>2114232
it fulfills the same niche as the '87
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>>2114235
No it doesn't. The '87 is a high burst damage weapon that exists to be the up-close counterpart to the Revolver. The Matter is supposed to be a sustain weapon on a class that can't sustain. It has stable accuracy so you can constantly dash around and constantly lay on damage, at the cost of taking longer to get a kill, but then most Light weapons already behave similarly to this aside from the precision ones, and the amount of time it takes to get a kill with it is prohibitive.
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>>2114274
well it's different than the other sustained damage weapons since it's a shotgun and doesn't rely as much on accuracy. if you're drawing a counterpart to the revolver with the '87 then the matter is more a counterpart to the lh1 in terms of damage at close range.
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>>2114279
>then the matter is more a counterpart to the lh1 in terms of damage at close range
Good fucking lord man. You couldn't be any more wrong. The LH1 with body shots is still faster to kill than the M26 Matter, not to mention the weapons handle completely differently. The '87 is able to be the counterpart to the Revolver because of both how it handles + the fact that (while by how much can vary from rebalance to rebalance) it positions itself inbetween the precision weapon's body and headshot TTK. That's here the whole tradeoff is and where the gun's character comes from.

The M26 is just different and far worse.
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>>2114313
that's fair, if I had to guess it suffers from them having pidgeonholed the sawn off so hard with the changes to it's range,spread and damage along with the fact that many of light's other weapons are also cqc focused puts the matter in an already crowded pool where the only large difference is that it's inherent advantages/disadvantages as a mag-fed pump shotgun don't do much to set it apart from the rest. I'm not sure what they could do aside from giving it a tighter spread like they did with the '87 and possibly making the cycle action faster.
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>>2113521
nice!
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>>2113851
Good actually, but the "choose your own reward" is a massive cop out.
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>>2114012
>>2114125
I soloq'd to diamond during season 3's ranked
back when you needed 50k to reach diamond

fun times
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>>2114232
what >>2114235 said is right, it does the same damage but has a box mag that reloads all shells at the same time.
It's not a bad gun, why would it need a rework? Now a weapon that actually needs a rework are the throwing knives.
Give the light like, 24 knives before reloading, reduce the headshot multiplier and now they are fair
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>>2114581
>it does the same damage
No it fucking doesn't. It's literally the exact polar opposite of the '87 and its damage: amongst the bodyshot stats for Medium weapons, the '87 is "slower" but competitive for killing Lights, is THE best body shot gun against fellow Mediums, but then drops off against Heavies. Amongst the bodyshot stats for Light weapons, the M26 is weak for killing fellow Lights, is weak for killing Mediums, but eeks out a small advantage for killing Heavies.

This also creates another example of why the M26 is shit for its niche: because being "better" at body shots against Heavies as a Light is basically meaningless. That still would leave you as being x2-3 quicker to kill for Him than he is for You, and he's so fukken big and slow that there's no issues hitting headshots on him anyways. To then be worse against fellow Lights in bodyshot damage, when they A) otherwise delete each other pretty quickly and B) they're the only ones you might have a challenge hitting the heads of, is just completely and utterly ridiculous
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>>2114615
But the m26 has faster ttk against lights and heavies, doesn't have a slow segmented reload and is on the class with dash and the other plethora of movement gadgets

They're not even that "solar opposites" if anything the m26 does more theoretical damage coming at 11x11 for the 12x9 the 87 does
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>>2114621
besides, needing 1 less stk on heavies isn't really a "minor" thing
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>>2114621
Another small tidbit, in the time it taked the 87 to load 1 shell (say you shot 6 rounds, only need to reload 1), the reload time is about the same as a dry reload from the m26

it's a matter of a similar gun given to 2 completly different classes that dictate a different playstyle. Light has no problem and is in fact encouraged to stay close and flank and the m26 allows him to do so.
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>>2114621
Oh okay, so apparently we're just not having the same conversation at all. You're just straight comparing the '87 to the M26. Big fucking waste of my time you are.
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>>2114633
>You're just straight comparing the '87 to the M26
What the fuck are you on about, you went in depth about the 87 vs the m26, i'm just giving you the facts, are you retarded??
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>>2114634
I went in-depth on the '87 and the M26 in their individual roles for their respective classes amongst the weaponry available for each class. You're just looking at the '87 and the M26 to each other, directly against each other, and absolutely nothing else. It's not the same topic at all.
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>>2114637
what is your problem, you're the one who compared ttk in the first place, I also noted the sheer difference of classes and playstyles. You're also incorrect about the M26 being weaker against lights since it has a faster ttk and circling around a heavy, spamming dash and shotgunning with the m26 isn't that hard to do.

Seriously, what role do you want it to have? It's a sidegrade of the DB where you trade the sheer damage with consistent output, more ammo and ease of use.

It's already a good gun, it really doesn't need a tweak, if anything, the other light guns need a tweak (93R for starters)
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My proposed solution to fix the light dilemma
it all stems from the specs and gadgets
>Dash
2 charges
or
keep 3 charges but put a cooldown between uses (kinda like how they made the season 4 mesh shield)
>H Infuser
Increase cooldown or total healing even more
>93R
DMG nerf and range nerf, it's too good at too many ranges, it can contest AR ranges no problem
>grapple
drawing blanks on this one. Either 2 chrages but less forwards thrust or just untouched
>invis
it's a noob filter, it's not that strong
>gates
reduce the max range (coming to S9, THANK GOD)
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>>2114642
>what is your problem, you're the one who compared ttk in the first place
I compared the '87 against MEDIUM WEAPONS and I compared the M26's TTK against LIGHT WEAPONS, good fucking lord man. What the absolute fuck do you think >>2114615 means when it says
>amongst the bodyshot stats for MEDIUM WEAPONS
and
>amongst the bodyshot stats for LIGHT WEAPONS
It doesn't fucking matter in this context how the M26 stacks up against the '87 in their own stats, it's about their fucking roles in their class's armory. NO LIGHT IS GOING TO CARE THAT THE M26 KILLS LIGHTS FASTER THAN THE '87 WHEN EVERY LIGHT WEAPON WILL KILL LIGHTS FASTER THAN THE M26 WITH BODYSHOTS (barring the SR-84 and Bow but those are obvious exceptions).
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>>2114651
>compared the '87 against MEDIUM WEAPONS and I compared the M26's TTK against LIGHT WEAPONS, good fucking lord man.
If we're going by that metric, you're also wrong on the "[the 87] is THE best body shot gun against fellow Mediums", because it isn't, in fact it's on the slower end of the TTK for mediums.

and as fir tge
>NO LIGHT IS GOING TO CARE THAT THE M26 KILLS LIGHTS FASTER THAN THE '87 WHEN EVERY LIGHT WEAPON WILL KILL LIGHTS FASTER THAN THE M26 WITH BODYSHOTS
That isn't an issue of the m26 itself, that's an issue of the rest of the roster being very lopsided towards the 93R and the ARN (I think the ARN is just ok). By that logic, the LH1 has more competitive killing times, yet it isn't used at all currently.

You have the whole thing backwards. It's not the Matter that's bad. It's the rest of the light's arsenal that's too strong. THe correct answer isn't to buff the matter, but to nerf the other guns. If you were to give the matter to any other class, it would be a top pick.
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>>2114658
>and as fir tge
as for the*
fvuk lol

take a chill pill bruv
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>>2114658
>you're also wrong on the "[the 87] is THE best body shot gun against fellow Mediums", because it isn't, in fact it's on the slower end of the TTK for mediums.
See, this I can actually acquiesce on, because we've both been going off the wiki for the exact numbers (as you also did here >>2114621 ), and I was going to post that literally every Medium gun has a slower TTK than the listed time, but the listed time is actually incomplete/partially erased and the real times do put the '87 at the slower end. It's annoying that I still had to do the legwork, but whatever. I'll drop that point then.
>this isn't an issue of the M26 itself, it's the issue of the rest of the roster being very lopsided towards the 93R and ARN
No it isn't when it's a case of EVERY SINGLE GUN. That's what eliminates the entire idea of of the M26 having a niche.
>>2114660
No. Posts across 7 hours and you dragged it out until now to get even half the point that was written blatantly in front of you. Don't reply to people if you're evidently tired or drunk or otherwise gonna be fukken slow.
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>>2114685
>>this isn't an issue of the M26 itself, it's the issue of the rest of the roster being very lopsided towards the 93R and ARN
>No it isn't when it's a case of EVERY SINGLE GUN. That's what eliminates the entire idea of of the M26 having a niche
Again, doesn't explain why we don't see hundreds of LH1 and V9S users. They supposedly have better ttks than the m26, why does nobody use them? The matter has a lot of advantages, 8 round box mag, no hipfire spread, so it's perfect for high bust damage, which, for the 100th time, the 93R does better but that's because the 93R is objectivley op. You also ignored what I said at the end

>You have the whole thing backwards. It's not the Matter that's bad. It's the rest of the light's arsenal that's too strong. THe correct answer isn't to buff the matter, but to nerf the other guns. If you were to give the matter to any other class, it would be a top pick.
Nerf the 93R (and maybe the ARN) and you'll see a resurgence of Matter (akin to season 6 and 7, to an extent. Both were used extensivley in the PHL)


>No. Posts across 7 hours and you dragged it out until now to get even half the point that was written blatantly in front of you. Don't reply to people if you're evidently tired or drunk or otherwise gonna be fukken slow.
how about you piss off, you're arguing so vehemently with another retard on a /vm/ thread with maybe 10 posters tops, about a game that peaks out at 10k players on a good day, entering it's 3rd year of life. It takes me like 3 minutes to write these and I don't even proofread them
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>>2114698
>The matter has a lot of advantages
It does not. Amongst the Light's arsenal, it does not. It's the entire reason why your whole tangent of
>the 93R is objectively OP
is pointless at this point in time, because even if the 93R got nerfed and everything got shuffled around, the M26 would STILL lack a meaningful niche. You'd have to, as you brought up here >>2114658 just start nerfing the rest, which is ridiculous because the rest of Light's arsenal is generally in a fine place right now. The M26 just need a little extra oomph so that, if the 93R was nerfed, it'd actually be used.
>how about you piss off, it's a slow thread on a slow board for a niche game
Hence why it has room for actual discussion. If you just want to drop shit and be a douche, then you have the entirety of /v/ to fuck with instead. Weird stance of "I don't actually give that much of a shit about the game" to have if you're gonna keep coming back to this thread to keep in the discussion.
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>>2114706
Again, still not answering why every light isn't running the V9S or other guns with competitive TTK, in any gamemode
>Amongst the Light's arsenal, it does not.
Ease of use if a good positive. Same reason why I still use the FCAR despite the CB/FAMAS being better. The FCAR underperforms nowdays, but I still prefer it as a stable companion.
>the M26 would STILL lack a meaningful niche
Not true, the major showed it, instant burst damage is worth a lot more in a fight than consistent damage. If the BFR was allowed in the major, every heavy would have used it. Besides, 93R nerfs were already confirmed for S9 by early testers. The matter needs no buff, else it could devolve in a S3 LH1 situation.

>Hence why it has room for actual discussion
where? Not here where everyone is a different flavour of toxic positive or toxic negative
/vm/ is just /v/ lite
>Weird stance of "I don't actually give that much of a shit about the game" to have if you're gonna keep coming back to this thread to keep in the discussion.
sunk a lotta hours in this game, call it stockholm syndrome
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>>2114685
>posts across 7 hours
that anon's posts only started 3 hours ago
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>>2114713
>Again, still not answering why every light isn't running the V9S or other guns with competitive TTK, in any gamemode
It WAS answered you dolt. The whole part about the 93R in my post is tacit acknowledgement that it does in fact invalidate some weapons, chief among them being the V9S. It's just that, again, the M26 is not one of them.
>Ease of Use is a good positive
The M26 only has Ease of Use over the other Light guns in a singular context, that being how it was used in The Major, to which
>Not true, the Major showed it, instant burst damage is worth a lot more
No, it did not show the value of high burst damage. If that were true, they'd be bringing the V9S or M11, which deal more damage in the same amount of time and range. The reason why the M26 was used is that, when a Light is throwing themselves into a suicidal scramble situations where you have <1s to live, they're willing to trade a bit of that damage for something they need to worry less about being able to aim. The Major had a much higher multitude of these situations thanks to the actual star of the show, the Gateway, but that's getting into a whole other tangent (especially considering how often the Gateway backfired)
>/vm/ is just /v/ lite
Then you can leave
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I think the matter has a niche of the "no aim spray and pray" top spot for light.
Medium has the grenade launcher so all shotguns are obsolete on him in that regard.
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I think the matter has a niche in that I have the CNS skin for it and it looks really nice
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>>2114854
and it has the funny keyboard reload
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whens the new season release?
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>>2114863
an hour and a half i think
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>>2114863
it's out
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>>2114760
>The whole part about the 93R in my post is tacit acknowledgement that it does in fact invalidate some weapons, chief among them being the V9S. It's just that, again, the M26 is not one of them.
Ok but for a second, let's say the 93R was "banned". The LH1 and the V9S would still be better, no? Well, why doesn't anybody use them? As I stated earlier, if you were to give the matter to any other class, it would be a very decent pick.

>No, it did not show the value of high burst damage.
>The reason why the M26 was used is that, when a Light is throwing themselves into a suicidal scramble situations where you have <1s to live, they're willing to trade a bit of that damage for something they need to worry less about being able to aim
You're not making any sense here, it did not show the value of high burst damage... by showcasing that you have to put as much damage as fast as you can in a fight?
>Then you can leave
Why would I? I'd be missing people that namecall me because they can't understand shit
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>no DB nerf
>no dash rework
>no m60 buff
>no shak nerf
>no deagles range nerf
>no c4 CD buff
>no infuser nerf
>no fcar nerf
>no repeater nerf
>no data reshaper buff
>instead it's 9vs buff and pyro mine nerf, the rest of changes aren't even worth talking about
>and swedish fucks haven't gone on vacation yet
See you all in march, this season is stillborn
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>>2115045
>DB nerf
love that this non-issue is your first concern
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>>2115045
>>no shak nerf
CHAMPION SINCE SEASON 5!!!! CAMPEAO DU MONDO!!! THE GREATEST HEAVY WEAPON EVER, I LOVE YOU SHAK.50!!
>>no m60 buff
it did though. Granted, not a damage nerf but it's already a shitty gun, now with less recoil
>>no deagles range nerf
obsolete since the BFR launched
>>no deagles range nerf
never ever, also way too late in the game's life for it.
>>no deagles range nerf
This one is insane though
>>no c4 CD buff
wut, why
>>no fcar nerf
it's not season 2 anymore grandpa, the FCAR hasn't been meta in a while
>>no repeater nerf
Doesn't need it but I would have welcomed it
>>no data reshaper buff
At this point, I don't think any ammount of buffs can save it. It will be forever only useful on power shift
>>instead it's 9vs buff
fuck it, welcome back dirty bomb
>pyro mine nerf
ngl, I agree with the nerf
>Pyro nade buff
sure, I guess
>Double Jeopardy
>the team that CASHES IT IN
So dead in the water? If a team wants to grief you out, they can just leave it for the enemy to grab and cash and it solves nothing. Now if it were "the team that OPENS the vault, regardless of the team that cashes it" now that would actually solve doubling
>model buff
I used to pray for a reload buff like this
>minigun buff
zzzz.... people actually use the minigun?
>lewis buff
>1+ damage
very cool, thanks
>93R nerf
Sometimes, jesus listens, I was right
>V9S buff
I don't get this one, why make the gun fall more in line with the LH1?
>Mesh buff
controversial opinion, but this won't shake the heavy meta in the slightest. Until they revert it to pre S3, the mesh will always be worse than winch.
>winch nerf
we have been eating too good for too long heavychads, but we will prevail
>RPG buff
only 50 dmg more before we're back to S1 stats
>glitch nerf
yeah, it's a good nerf
>breach CD buff
sorry but it still won't make it a good gadget, despite the constant buffs
>thermal bore
more like thermal SNORE
>Added denuvo
great, -30fps tax
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>>2115104
>>>no deagles range nerf
>This one is insane though
oops, I meant
>no infuser nerf
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Did they change the bodies? Female heavy's tits look huge now
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>>2115177
The power of "We want to appeal to the chinese audience"
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Wow point break is absurdly defender sided holy shit. Why do attackers have to win multiple phases and have limited respawns while defenders only have to stop them once and they have unlimited respawns?
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>>2115268
I only played once on defenders, I had no idea attackers had limited lives. For some reason they just kept tossing bodies into the blender attacking the same point.I was kinda wondering why they didn't just go for multiple points at the same time
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>>2115060
I died more to DB this season than to any other meta weapon, DB is objectively the best shotgun in the game since season 1, you literally can't refute this
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>>2115289
cope, only bronzeshitters and m26cucks cry about DB and it's the most balanced shottie out of all 6
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Hey Embark, your game is trash, nerf lights or you'll have only 5k of active players at the start of season 10
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>>2115303
Counterpoint - lights pay the most for MTX, Nexon can't allow lightwhales to be upset
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Shut up both of you, this isn't /vg/, tribalism is forbidden here
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>>2115307
cope, I do what I want
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Shut up sweatfag
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>>2115314
nuh uh
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>>2115319
no u zoomie
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>>2115322
fuk u unc
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>>2115325
i bang your mother
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hello hello
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>>2115329
yes
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>>2115333
hello hello
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>>2115335
yes
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>>2115344
hello hello
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>>2115345
yes
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>>2115347
hello hello
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>>2115268
Defenders have to use their utility to not lose but then run out, all attackers have to do is keep up pressure with weapons.
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>>2115351
yes
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>>2115353
yes
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uh oh, samefag melty
create a new thread now
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>>2115286
The early strat seems to be to overwhelm one point early while the defenders are spread out defending the others.
The problem is that defenders basically just have to play TDM and they win. Defenders WILL run out of revives eventually and they have to capture 9 points to win.
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>>2115371
>Defenders WILL run out of revives eventually and they have to capture 9 points to win.
*Attackers
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>>2115371
It's really interesting that the shared pool of lives is causing less lights to appear. I felt like the majority of enemies were heavies trying to rush in with their most tanky loadouts. Melee mains are eating pretty good at the moment until a fucking spear shows up anyway
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>>2115404
>I felt like the majority of enemies were heavies trying to rush in with their most tanky loadouts
I mean, that would make sense: Rush mode is about running in and holding space and that is the literal purpose of heavy class, light is terrible at that
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>>2115410
Honestly medium seems pretty shit in it too. Aside from defib, Heavy has everything you want in that mode. High health, good ways to defend, good entry with C4/RPG. Moderate healing ability.
Every game I've played has just been 8 heavies on each team with the occasional light who just gets demolished the second they walk into a room with 5 heavies
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seems like they downgraded the normal battlepass a lot more this time, guess not enough people were willing to pay ten bucks a month for the super premium one
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>>2115518
wdym? Last season the free track had 1 outfit, this season it has 2.
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>>2115541
ah, I meant normal = paid
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https://youtu.be/YiF1MAnzrAA?t=304
this is kind of interesting on how raytracing works in this game
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>>2115030
>Well, why doesn't anybody use them
Because the 93R steps into their individual niches as well, you dolt. The LH1 and V9S suffered entirely because of the 93R, the M26 Matter suffers because it individually is not very good at what it does.
>if you were to give the matter to any other class, it would be a very decent pick
No it wouldn't. It performs worse in stats amongst their options and the other classes don't have the movement that would theoretically take advantage of its stable accuracy
>You're not making sense here
Because you're retarded. The way the M26 is used in Gateway strategies is more akin to someone with bad aim using the CL40 in order to get any amount of damage in. They're not worried about getting high burst damage, they're worried about being able to get some damage without being concerned about aiming. Matches focused around the Gateway are frantic with a lot of up-close scrambles where you have limited time to pick your opponent, so they forgo actual burst damage options for something that can splash up close without being one-and-done as the Light's other shotgun
>because they can't understand shit
Pretty fukken ironic given how long it took for you to be able to read the shit in front of you earlier in this reply chain

This will also be the last reply on this topic you'll be getting out of me. You've been running in circles with the last few posts and you clearly have no interest in actually discussing this topic instead of arguing about it, while nevertheless continue to return to it in order to be a monumental waste of time.
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>>2115626
You sound like an entitled little twat.
And you are also big wrong.
1. No one uses the m26 at a level above diamond.
2. Gateway strategies are --> Use Bounce pad to get light on roof -- > late gateway for team -- > pick up pad ---> Place pad on roof --> vanish bomb --> All bounce on someone open with RPG and reds if possible. Every single team did that strat every single time.

Another use of the gateway is just another escape reposition, Another is to transport objective.

At no time do you play a shotgun with the gateway at top level meta and no reason to use close range at all if you can just hipfire with the 93R.

Glad they nerfed the burst pistol it takes 0 skill to use. Lh1 too much recoil / visual or non that makes it impractical. V9S is meh you don't really need range as light and up-close there are better options

TL;DR: Gateway is used in conjunction with bounce pad to get entire team high up and drop on teams.
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>>2115045
No new gadgets
No new specializations
No balance for never picked weapons
Man *yawn* this season just copy paste the last with a new map and a mode they'll eventually scrap like terminal attack if it splits the playerbase anymore
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>>2115303
WAHHHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHHHH WAHHHHHH DO WHAT I WANT OR IM GONNA WAHHHHHHH

Light got nerfed pretty hard. Gateway distance nerf & burst pistol (only used weapon at high level) got nerfed.

They just need to give light a cool special that will compete with dash and you will be fine. Dash is good against bad trackers (99% of people below ruby) so they feel OP but in reality you just suck. Any heavy that can aim just winch and delete light. You have to play almost perfectly to fulfill lights role in high level ranked (not whatever wood league you are stuck inside)
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Why is this thread so fucking autistic?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1TnHMf_M3g
Feels a lot more like a S1 trailer than what we've got in years
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>>2115659
Whole lotta retards who think they're hot shit but can't get out of silver in soloq
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>>2115371
I finally after like 6 games got to play attackers and we won by a large margin. I think so long as people just revive and not frantically panic coin its not as big of a disadvantage. I just immediately ran straight to a really far point solo while my teammates swarmed a different point and we got an easy 2 points with little resistance. I got 12 revives off in one round, but I can see it being super dog shit if everyone is just focusing on themselves/getting kills rather than trying to keep the team functioning together. So far I do like it and hope it leads to more unique objective modes.
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>>2115659
1. The game is too dynamic. It's a game where basically every gun and strategy can genuinely work, so everyone is totally convinced of their different viewpoint being the "true" state of the game. It wouldn't be that much of a problem if this was /vm/ as it was 4-5 years ago, but
2. A lot of posters from /v/ and /vg/ moved to the board within the past year and refused to lurk or otherwise acclimate, so there's a lot of shit stirrers and retards now
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>>2115659
it's the autism shooter of the era
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>>2115683
it's funny when people try to get a clear cut answer by going
>but look at the pros!!!!
>look at the majors!!!!!!
and then you tune into the majors and you get the same shit of players going full retard and doing silly things like fucking around on the crane while their teammates are dying off 150m away

surprising number of charge heavies were there in a world where people say there's no point to ever using anything but winch
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i might be depressed but i've never even cared about balancing and patch notes
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>>2114030
Sucks to be retarded and poor I guess.
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>>2114030
just saiyan but finals is very cpu driven and that will make more of a difference
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This is genuinely the best FPS ever made

Now that embark are rolling in it from arc raiders I hope they actually start fucking marketing it
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>>2115696
Charge is a direct counter to goo grenade which is everywhere so it makes sense
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is the akm bad or do i just fucking suck?
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>>2115045
This is some premium tier bait. Almost got me.
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>>2115751
lil bit of both
as far as ars go, it's the worst one out of the bunch, but I have muscle memory from the cb2 so
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>>2115739
They should do the thing epic does with Rocket League and Fortnite. Where they make some items for Fortnite only available to get through completing quests in Rocket League.
If Embark made some cosmetic shit in Ark only available to get if you do mission in the Finals then they'd get a lot of people to download the game.
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>>2115751
The AKM is honestly perfectly fine. It has the easiest recoil pattern and the biggest magazine so it's much more forgiving if you miss. The downside is it does less damage than the FCAR. But it's still a good gun and nobody will get mad if you pick it on your team
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what the fuck did they mean by performance optimization, the game runs worse than ever
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>>2115759
>>2115767
im going to start using the 357.with the akm i need an entire mag to get a kill close or long range. and i have seen so many people run away with a sliver of hp left.
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>>2115759
what is cb2?
>>2115782
i need to turn off killcams. my shit freezes and doesnt even show the replay.
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Point break is not like I imagined at all. I thought it would be like ET or Dirty Bomb where you progress through a map doing objectives in order.
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>>2115829
didn't they always just sell it as rush?
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>>2115840
Probably, I just hadn't looked into more than the initial description from the first video where I saw it mentioned.
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>>2115782
Upgrade your shitbox sometime, my boy
I have a 1660 with a Ryzen 7 and I can consistently get well over 100+ fps with virtually no noticeable latency using FSR, and without any framegen 50 fps at the bare minimum
Skill issue
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What do you guys think of the new map?

I think it has interesting parts of other maps meshed together in one, but traversal is so adhd inducing with all the pads, ziplines, glass and holes to go through get a bit exausting after a few games in a row.
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>>2115810
The 357 is great if you have good aim. Dog shit if you don't. It doesn't really have great range though, you might want to try the repeater.
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>>2116051
I've yet to play on it.
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>>2116137
Wow, what an informative answer, you stupid fat fuck
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>>2115925
Just checked my rig further after actually playing this season
What I wrote previously still applies, but it turns out at the absolute minimum with no FSR I hover at around 60 FPS
What sort of potatoes are people running this game on to where they have terrible performance??
This is the best optimized raytracing-capable game I've ever played on a non RTX gpu
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>>2115818
closed beta 2
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>power shift is medium territory
>tdm is light territory
>rush is heavy territory
>only cashout has the best balance of classes
I hate this game so much
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>>2115659
Light mains desperately trying to excuse their OP weapons despite Major showing everyone that they had the best K/D ratio and the most amount of clutch team wipes
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>>2115654
>Light got nerfed pretty hard. Gateway distance nerf & burst pistol (only used weapon at high level) got nerfed.
>only used weapon at high level
lol, 93R was used by everyone including bronze noobs after the buff since it basically became a FAMAS for light
Light still overshadows medium as the best support healer and still outshines heavy in close quarters damage output
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>>2116562
>the most amount of clutch team wipes
That's more because Lights are designed to clean up kills, not that their weapons are OP to begin with.
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>>2116567
>That's more because Lights are designed to clean up kills
No, you dumbass, light literally could clutch 1v3 if they could get a drop on full health team, once they take out enemy light the rest of the team folds under pressure very quickly since Heavy can't heal Medium quickly and Medium only carries one movement gadget since zipline is useless compared to teleport
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>>2116570
>Heavy can't heal Medium quickly
>Medium only carries one movement gadget
Oh no......then they'll just have to....I dunno......shoot the Light with their superior guns that kill them infinitely faster than a light can kill any individual one of them.....
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>>2116567
> not that their weapons are OP to begin with.
Mega retarded newfag take
Light notoriously has a few ridiculously strong weapons that will melt you if the Light player can aim in a close quarters scenario:
Double barrel shotgun, sword, M11, 93R
Light has best shotgun in the entire game that will defeat any other shotgun in a 1v1 scenario
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>>2116575
>Light has best shotgun in the entire game that will defeat any other shotgun in a 1v1 scenario
The Cerberus and the SA12 both have a faster TTK against Lights than the DB has against Mediums and Heavies
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>>2116576
that's also just shotguns
most weapons can kill a light faster than a double barrel can kill them
complaining about the double barrel is like complaining about the dagger
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>STILL no MGL rework despite Embark repeatedly showing it in their ads
Useless trash, literally takes a jump pad or a low gravity event to turn it into useless paperweight
9 seasons of failure
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>>2116574
>shoot light
>he hides away like a rat for 10 seconds and then immediately starts hunting medium again
It's very amusing that light mains forget that this game favours fast movement the most
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>>2116588

next post will call you bad for not being able to shoot a light that dash spams, watch
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>>2116588
>he hides away like a rat for 10 seconds and then immediately starts hunting medium again
Good. Fucking off is as good as dead anyways, and 10s is a significant amount of time for you to spruce up your defenses and top off health--hell, that's long enough for even natural regen to kick in for everyone at that point. The Light cannot win that style of war of attrition.
>>2116589
Hey little buddy. How's silver treating you?
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>>2116579
dagger deals 320 damage only from the back
double barrel deals more damage from any side and can finish off enemies midair, it's accuracy is unaffected by movement and it doesn't require to aim down sight to minimize it's pellet spread pattern, it oneshots lights without headshots and is effective up to 10 meters away
The only thing it shares with the dagger is the shitty hitreg around the corners
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Embark hates heavy, that's why TGM25 pass only had new devpet meta weapons for him, while for light and medium they included XP and AK despite the former being obsolete since ARN release and the latter being irrelevant since season 1
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>>2116597
I wouldn't know
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>>2116618
Yes, I am upset that not a single season 1 weapon for Heavy made it in the battlepass, the skins are cool AF, I would've taken even Flamethrower or MGL for a change
I guess Embark really hates M60 and Lewis
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>>2116618
hate that I own one of the rarer skins for the AK but the AK itself is a subpar gun. I mean it's fine, but like, not up to the others and that annoys me.

>>2116622
I miss Season 2 lewis gun like you wouldn't believe
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>>2116621
Oh hey, I recognize this player card. I thought you permanently fucked off from the thread, since you stopped posting your diamond rewards after it kept getting you laughed at by everyone instead. Good to see that S9 is bringing all the players back in.
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>>2116629
>Good to see that S9 is bringing all the players back in
That's not true though, we're already back to sub 10k players and the lack of content and major balance changes at the start of the season(rush mode is just TDM for heavies with extra steps) will turn even more players away
It's season 5 all over again but now with chinawank
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>>2116625
I will never forgive what Embark did during season 3, SH1900 got buffed, light regen time got buffed, ruby rank got introduced, fucking kyoto, terminal attack
What the fuck were they thinking back then
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>>2116629
Nice headcanon you came up with retard, I never left
>kept getting you laughed at by everyone instead
and a larp too
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is there a sponsorship that DOESN'T suck?
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>>2116705
Holtow for the print reciept hammer and personally, I like Vaiiya
the rest kinda blow ass
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>>2116654
They were in full panic mode, losing 60% of your player base in less than 2 months made them go haywire, doesn't help that since they're nexxon backed, they had to do that stupid terminal attack mode to apease SnD brained asians. Few remember that TA had a whole dedicated website for it. Granted, Cashout had (still has) issues as a competitive mode, but a SnD mode just doesn't work with the final's class system.

The rest of the issues of S3 can't be swept under the "they made us do it" though, XP was way too strong for way too long, very unfun season
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>rpg+winch+QM AKA "total lights death" combo is back
>dual blades got a huge buff
>barricades got shadow patched to clip through environment
WHY NONE OF YOU RETARDS ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE?!
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the dual blades getting a huge buff is pretty cool, just remembered that from the patch notes
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>>2116705
Volpe has a cool hoodie
Ozpuze has a nice crop top
Alfa Acta has some sick sunglasses
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>>2116868
>season 1 BP has a near identical hoodie
>only good for barbie dress up fags
>almost every player has 10 pairs of cool sunglasses since they appear frequently in regular BPs and TLMs
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>>2116705
I like Ozpuze's stuff kinda, the others just seem like tacky recolors. I'm not a fan of Volpe's all white look or Alfa Acta's tacticool camo either. But hey its more stuff to unlock so your playtime isn't just going to waste.
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what's funny is that medium players have been kinda shutting up in my experience recently after their various nerfs
heavy mains are the ones voicing their eternal victim complex now in a season where they got mostly buffs
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you can fly hack now
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>>2116891
Don't sign with anyone then. Nobody is forcing you to get free cosmetics
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>>2117721
sick flying
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>>2116705
alfa acta mustache is nice and has a dark outfit if you're a visibility nerd
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>>2116705
Holwtow has a unique hammer that prints kills and a nice double deagle skin

>>2117721
lmao this is like the goo ship, embark niggers are patching this asap
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>>2116705
It's legitimately crazy how bad the sponsor outfits are, like wtf. The only great ones are VAIIYA and Alfa Acta, but I really hate how some sponors have like 11 tiers and others only have 4.
Embark had all this time to properly give sponsors equal tiers for maximum incentive to entice players and they couldn't even be bothered to do that lol.
Absolutely half-assed.
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>>2116903
I really don't mind that a lot of them are recolors. The sponsorship gear exists just to wear something with the company's logo on it. I'd be fine if we even just got basic T-Shirts each time. Plus, while it doesn't mean much for people like me that have been playing since Day 1, I can appreciate that some of the items being recolored are those that new players otherwise wouldn't have free access to.
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Objective Sponsorship Reward Rankings

Great Tier:
OSPUZE T1
VAIIYA T1

Good Tier:
DISSUN
ENGIMO T2
ISEULT T1
OSPUZE T2

Okay Tier:
ALFA ACTA
HOLTOW T1
ISEULT T2
TRENTILA
VAIIYA T2
VOLPE
CNS

Mediocre Tier:
ENGIMO T1
HOLTOW T2
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>>2116705
The Vaiiya outfit is pretty good if only just for the mask. It doesn't conflict with much so you can use it for a lot of different looks. The pants are also good.
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dash needs to be nerfed simply because it is the only specialization that is spammed off cd and used in traversing and combat, i.e. 99% of the game. mediums and heavys need a spec that is spammable and useful in every situation.
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Point Break started off fun. But the match making is fucking me hard and consistently putting me on the team full of shitters. I've won 2 games and lost like 12
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>>2119666
Goo Gun and Demat
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>>2119699
except you have too equip them. they cant be used seamlessly with the rest of your kit
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>>2119719
Skill issue
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>>2119721
stating a fact is a skill issue? fuck off troll
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>>2119767
Not being able to seamlessly weave them into your game plan is skill issue. Fuck off, you retard.
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>>2119769
no YOU fuck off retard
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>>2119833
no YOU fuck off retard
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>>2119839
> no YOU fuck off retard
No, YOU fuck off.
Retard.
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>>2119896
>> no YOU fuck off retard
Who are you quoting. There was no space before my "no," you retard.
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>>2119924
> Who are you quoting.
You, retard. I can do this all night, I'll make you my retarded faggotbitch.
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>>2119987
>> Who are you quoting.
My posts are not like this. You are being delusional, and also gay. This is the last post you'll get out of me, and anything after this will just be your concession and admission of obsession. Go ahead, be obsessed you little queer.
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>>2119994
> My posts are not like this.
Oh yes they are, faggot. I know you. I know everything about you. Close your eyes and I'll be still be lurking underneath your eyelids. I'm the whisper you heard in the wind. I'm in your blood, your hair.
I'm done when I say we're done, sissyfag.
You can never escape me.
I will hunt you down until the ends of the earth, forever.



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