New retail zone edition: https://www.gamesradar.com/games/mmo/for-the-first-time-in-over-a-decade-square-enix-is-teasing-a-brand-new-zone-for-its-og-mmo-final-fantasy-11/ For discussions related to FFXI. Keep your delusions in a journal. Yes, this includes you schizos posting about random names in a FFXI thread and staff trying to damage control under the guise of anon.Retailhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrivate serversCactuarhttps://www.cactuarxi.com/Catseyehttps://catseyexi.com/Edenhttps://edenxi.comEventidehttps://www.eventidexi.org/HorizonXIhttps://horizonxi.com/Phoenixhttps://phoenixxi.online/ZenithXIhttps://www.zenithxi.com/Resourceshttps://flippantry.com/skillchain/http://www.ffxicalculator.com/http://www.pyogenes.com/ffxi/timer/v2.htmlhttps://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Main_Pagehttps://classicffxi.fandom.com/wiki/Classic_FFXI_communityhttp://campsitarus.blogspot.com/Old thread: >>2001918
inb4 melties
>>2058233HOW DARE YOU PUT RETAIL SERVER THERE
>>2058242uh oh melty
Phoenix waiting room
>>2058233Phoenix link is incorrecthttps://phoenix-xi.com/home
lol so what
>>2058233Pepperidge farms remembers a time when FFXI was a social media platform and a dating service for confused and often mentally ill teenagers.
>>2058601Now it's just a social media platform and a dating service for confused and often mentally ill boomers.
"We don't have this problem on retail"
>>2058233Latest shouts: Asura editionhttps://www.ffxiah.com/You can be online for your usual 17 hours today and you will see no other shouts than the same 20 RMT groups selling 24/7 runs. SE could go on a bot/RMT banning spree and get rid of 80% of the active accounts on their server but they won't.
>>2058783Good thing you can't make new characters or move to Asura.
>>2058785Every active server is like this
>>2058783termfilter
>>2058760it's literally that easy
Anon notice rebase open beta is kind of shit? Why let Beasty put energy into that? To copy toons over that's it? Why not end Horizon on COP and make better LSB server? Waste of time for Aerec to steal the credit and overrule everything later.
>>2059072Nasomi 2.0
Why does every staff member of private servers like Horizon have rapist along with attention seeking e-sluts on it?
>>2059116They were the only people willing to do it for free. Trannies desire power above all else, and letting them lord over a server full of impotent manchildren gives them a wicked girlboner they could otherwise never achieve being a reddit admin.
>>2059072Because otherwise you guys are never getting another expansion
Whats the point of that beta? Isnt they just testing current active content and not toau ? When is estimate to launch TOAU?
>>2059552There's a whole blog about their rebase and why they're testing.
>>2059072Horizon still has a healthy pop so I assume they want to ride it instead of fracturing the community into smaller servers if they wipe peoples progress.
>>2059699They are healthy because they don't have any real competition. Eden was dying when they launched and no one wants dual box. Wings was dead as it came out. Nasomi was also dead and same story as Eden. Horizon came out when there was not a single other decent server.But when Phoenix and other servers launch, we'll see. I am guessing people who are tired of PAFO and Era+ secrecy and retardation will jump elsewhere.
>>2059709I'm excited for Zenith. As much as I loved era I need my QOL.
>>2059709I think a lot of people will give a new server a shot just because they can do the fun part of the game again. ToAU on Horizon being so timegated won't scratch the itch in the same way.
>>2059727Anyone have a rough ETA on Zenith or Phoenix dropping? I have zero interest in HorizonXI, Catseye is awful, and most of the other servers are just dead/dying.
>>2059894No, the best we get is AI blogs and shitposting by haters here.
>>2059894Phoenix has said they will launch sometime in 2026, but based on how much progress they have been making and their open communication, probably before Horizon gets TOAU at this point. I would imagine spring or summer next year. They have a dev tracker so you can see what work they are doing: https://phoenix-xi.com/dev-trackerZenith doesn't have a date yet that I am aware of other than sometime in 2026?Horizon has no dates.
>>2059925Why they have to do all THAT again? Isnt it done already in other code like wings or whatever?
>>2059932Wings used another codebase called Topaz/Topaz Next that is gone now. Some of it was ported to what is now the standard, LSB, but much of it was not good quality and was ripped out.LSB is good quality and actively updated, which is why Horizon is trying to rebase so they can use LSB.In the past, most private servers were based off old janky codebases like DSP and they would just fork and make their own repo so all of the work done on Eden/Nasomi and other DSP servers is not public. The work done on servers like Wings is still public but it does not mesh with LSB or was pulled out for being low quality.
>>2059959Thanks for reply but why all that if in the end its like playing the same? Nasomi etc feels the same as horizon or eden or wings
>>2059959>>2060076also nothing new was added, its just literally the same, why not get wings code, turn in on and whatever?, but i guess there is more, ok thanks
>>2060078That's what I asked, I was like wings had working assaults, why not just use those? I guess they don't just steal code from each other like Nasomi did. Nasomi was like "don't mind if i do"
>>2060076Unfortunately it isn't really the same. Servers like Eden and Wings at their launch were much different than Horizon. On Wings, mobs didn't have traits or proper defense for a very long time. Perhaps not noticeable to many players, but a huge difference in how easy combat was, and by extension the game.>>2060078Because it's the equivalent of having diesel fuel and trying to put it in your non-diesel car. You need the right engine otherwise the fuel is not going to get you anywhere. They would have to refactor the code, which they did for some of it. Other stuff was considered so low quality it was not worth trying to save.That is what Phoenix devs and other LSB contributors are trying to do now. They are trying to build in one place so none of this repeats ever again.
>>2060084>They are trying to build in one place so none of this repeats ever again.It's a shame this wasn't done at the start of pservers. We could've had so much if it was done at the beginning instead of starting in 2025.
>>2060097Yep it’s fucking retarded but thankfully LSB folks and now Phoenix are doing what’s needed.
>>2060084I understand better now, thanks>>2060097>>2060113yeah that would be nice but better late than never, hope we can get toau wotg complete in the next few years
>>2060153Same, I hope the coders don't burn out. I'm trying my best to help with any sort of testing but my brain is too smooth to code anything.
>>2060153WoTG is a lot of work, it's one of the largest expansions and it's why we don't have any servers with working missions. Wings had a bunch of missions working at some point but i don't imagine anyone can just use the code.
>>2059125HOLY SHIT
>>2059699This.>> 4 Years of CoPThe devs and the e-sluts they worship having control over the sunk-cost fallacy slaves is too good to risk. The dangling carrot of ToAU was all that was needed.
>>2060446Horizon's population halved when they realized ToAU is never coming out. We expected ToAU in 2023 and when it didn't come by 2024 people noped the fuck out.
>>2060715Horizon is forever fucked with how long they've had to sit at CoP. Everyone who actually cares about endgame has a relic and most of them have maats cap. Never gonna play on that easy mode "era" server again, but I guess the casual masses just care about big population number.
>>2061528The issue is there isn’t another good “era” like server atm besides Eden and while Eden is the best server content wise, dual boxing and unlimited account creation ruin it for most people.Horizon will bleed people in time when they get competition.
>>2061695As much as I love new servers, I can't handle yet another fresh start. I'm too old for this.
>>2061695New games in 2026 will further cull the population overtime.
>>2061695The only "fun" server currently is Catseye and specifically the Crystal Warrior mode on Catseye. That doesn't excuse the fact that a bunch of shit on Catseye just doesn't work, or that it's a hodgepodge server full of hodgepodge shit.Custom CW content is good, and I'd like to see something like T1 and T2 incursion + the custom equipment from garrison and Incursion on a normalish server.
>>2062009I have zero interest in a custom server when no server has been 100% content complete in the already existing lv 75 expansions let alone custom shit on top of it.
>>2062048That leaves you with Eden
>>2062064Phoenix will exist, I've got other games I can play until that launches
>>2062229I'm not getting any hope until an actual launch. Can't trust timelines.
>>2062229I hope it's a good one
>>2062229What kind of server is Phoenix? I'll check it out some time if it's promising enough. Just need a staff that cares about the game
>>2062506https://phoenix-xi.com/about
There was a server about 6 years ago on the DarkStar codebase called Phoenix Reborn that was shut down and absorbed into FFera, and this new project taking their name is pretty ick
>>2062593They asked the dude and he was okay with it
>>2062610I guess it's okay, it was run by a woman though.
>>2060446BUT GAIZ, THE HECKIN CLOSED BETA FOR THE HECKIN REBASE IS HECKIN OUT, THAT TOTALLY MEANS ITS COOMING SOON GAIZ, HECKIN FRICK!
>>2060715>Play since launch>5 relics>75 all jobs>solid 900 mil>Expansion comes out and it lasts about a month while you speed level all the new jobs to 75>Run out of content and start gil printing againYou guys have fun
>>2063466Don’t worry, Aerec is going to handle this by not allowing relics to work in TOAU areas. Problem solved. The players will love it.
>>2063457Shut the fuck up Kipling.
>no invite for 3h on horizon>no where else to play>sunday evening dead asffeel like pure shit just want a comfy dunes pt
>>2063828Then make one.
>>2063828>>2063900making parties can be a complex and anxiety inducing...wait, dunes? wtf just invite literally anyone
>>2063457It's like crypto projects but instead of a chance to make money there is only pain
>>2063900We don't need retards like this making parties. Best to let them suffer or pick up BST.
>>2064131I’ve no idea why people willingly suffer the Dunes. There’s Ghelsba burns, Korroloka and/or /BST to completely skip it.
>>2063828Grouping before 15 is aidsGrouping after 15 is aidsHere is your party, some shit thief with no subjob who doesn't use food, a summoner for fuck whatever reason, the tank is a beastmaster and he's using a scythe. The white mage is skilling up healing magic, it's level 4 by the way, and oh hey look guys we got a bard advertise that people want minuet and madrigal, it makes them feel less bad about sucking.Won't some nice DD come rescue my shit party?
>>2064171I've never had a problem with the dunes especially on pservers, if anything qufim til around late 30s is the shitshow
>>2064270Anon it's more fun if you just join a party, any party, when you seek. Don't take it so seriously and you will have fun doing some super niche Rolanberry fields dumbshit party that nobody ever does but it's fun and no stress.
>>2064293the majority of people who play this game are balls at it.
>>2064297Yeah so you gotta have extremely low expectations and just focus on having fun. If you're a grindy minmax sweatlord then just make a static.
>>2064293I remember I was tanking the dunes on bst and better gear/more armor than the war with no sj, and the whm is like seething because no the war is supposed to tank (he didn't even know how to voke) despite me telling the war to voke and trying to teach him even though I would do a better job tanking. People just like to bitch in this game and for some reason dunes takes it up to 100 even though it's effortless and one person eating food can carry the party
>>2064317I did dunes with my static. We had a SC set up with MB from the BLM/RDM/WHM. We also had a first voke, backup voke, and they would stack so the THF could SA. Ended up leveling 14-17 while another party tried to overcamp us and didn't level once in that 1 hour. Game is extremely easy with low expectations and learning/growing with a group is tons of fun. Nothing more joyful than hearing the WHM scream with a 50 MB Aero.
There's this content in CatsEyeXI that I really like, it's called incursion. There are three zones that are Tier 1 which start at level 8, and then each time you fulfill an objective, unlock, and kill a boss your level cap goes up two levels until you're level 16 by the end. One of the zones is Fort Ghelsba, and you'll do a round around the beginning area, kill 20 orcs, and then kill a boss. Then you're level 10, you kill 20 more orcs and do a boss and you're level 12, this whole thing takes about 45 minutes and you end up getting a whole mess of experience, like way more than you'd get in a dunes party. Plus you get a bonus for completion and this currency you can use to make exclusive weapons. IDGAF about the rest of CatsEye, but I want something like this in a normal-ish server.
>>2064171FF11 players are mostly retarded that's why.
>>2064293Rolanberry fields is good. You are retarded.
>>2064317Most whitemage players are dumb as fuck.
>>2063828Bro everyone on horizon is already literally years ahead of you, why even bother? lol Just play something else till one of the fresh servers come out
>>2064706A big problem with Horizon is it isn't getting many new players, just people who uninstall and never come back. On the lower end even though CEXI has a much lower population it seems much more active. There are 10+ parties all the time. The custom content with ventures and mana burn camps means BLM, SCH, RDM, and DRK are much more viable with nuke spamming mobs and people will do this for hours. If you have a sync they'll pick you up even if it's only for 10 minutes and you only get like 5 levels.
>>2064727not true at all. Horizon slander is cool and all but it absolutely still has a bustling playerbase at all levels and gets plenty of new players daily. If you're not getting parties, it's probably because you've been labeled an obnoxious sperg. >>2064706comparing yourself to others is retarded. Just play whatever server you want until Phoenix releases. You're not gonna lose it (unless the server shuts down), and other people's progress isn't going to hurt you.
Checking in again. It's nearly 2026. Horizon status? Rebase: O?
>>2064936Two more weeks soon tm.
>>2064762Hey Aerec, hows that ladder pulling balance going?
>>2064762>"Bustling playerbase"I think the population bot crashed, you should probably turn it back on
I wish Phoenix was as busy developing their unreleased server as they were shitposting in these threads.
>>2065023You obviously haven't paid attention to LSB over the past few months if you're making this comment.
900 at the worst hours NA time, 800 more than the next closest server. Yep, I'd say pretty good
>>2065112Scared Horizon shills. Ignore.
>>2065133How many of the 900 are bots?
>>2065201789
Zenith is dead since they let Miriva/Blossom in charge of their Reddit and probably morePhoenix might have similar problems but I haven't confirmed them yeteither way everyone is arguing about population when all of the above and more will be filled with AI agents that are indistinguishable from real players as you wander them alone surrounded by bots as will be most of the internet
>>2065694all the players on Horizon are AI that aerec and ninja paid winter to make
>>2065699TRVTH NVKE
>>2065694Phoenix doesn’t have a woke tranny community manger
Uh oh melties!
>>2065716Stun that meltdown
>>2065699Does Aerec make money blowing Ninja or is it the other way around? Who is spending the money here?
>>2065718Anons madge about colored flags and reddit oh no!
>>2065694>>2065699There's no AI program that can replicate that level retardation and bootlicking Horizon is filled with.
>>2065694Very creepy if you're looking into these two listed servers and names this much. Very Creepy.
>>2065742you say that like it's not exactly on par with every other comment here
>>2065742very creepy that you let a disgusting XIV ERP pedo have anything to do with your new private server but you do youP2NJY
>>2065755Learn to captcha faggot. Go suck pedo dick on Phoenix.
>>2065762uh oh melty!P2NJY
>>2065762kill yourself
>>2065775oink oink paypiggie
>>2065762that's what I'm saying though I think Phoenix is probably just as bad so no I won't be doing either thanks
>>2065786But anon, don't you want to do yet another fresh start?
>>2065786>>2065786True, all servers are bad except Zenith!
>>2065822delulululu
>>2065822This is actually trash
>>2065786Hmm. Do I want to play on the pedo server or the tranny server?Which one is most likely to ban people for buying gil but have one of the GMs sell it anyway?
>>2065873Avoid both and play Eden.
>>2065884I did but now Eden's old and nobody plays there anymore.
>>2065873which one is which
>>2065917Afaik zenith is the tranny server and Phoenix is the pedo server. Could be the other way around or some combination of the two. One could be the tranny pedo server and the other could be the pedo tranny server. They probably both sell gil to epicnpc and then ban you for buying it.
>>2065873is enemycrab playing on phoenix or who is the pedo there?
>>2065933Oh hey look the sperg lord is back to rant about shit no one cares about.
>>2065786>>2065790>>2065873>>2065884>>2065933>Zenith = Tranny server. "Female Staff" Stalked >by Horizon dev creeps.>Phoenix = Pedo Server. Who's kids were touched?>Horizon = Gil selling bot server. Incompetent Staff. Retard-filled. Devs creep on females of other servers.Eden = No one plays there.Which one do I chooooossseeee? Eden sounds nice maybe? I'm not a female yet which means no perks if I join Horizon. Zenith?
>>2065998It's one of the staff but if you name them they file a C&D against you.
>>2066001Join us on retail, anon.
Why would I play on a private server if retail is getting new content?
>>2066011retail """""""""""content"""""""""": 15 x family mobs titled new content mobs, caturae boss #100retail """""""""""""""""""""""""new zones""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ala adoulin: random maze/straight line, or old zone but made shittyretail """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""new ultimate weapons""""""""""""""""""""""""""""": the next ones will be mythics but BLACKED. grind 100000000 new content units.why would anyone play retail when private servers follow the original, sexy content in the original zones with the original rewards. And if for some reason the private server has added content it's probably on the same tier of content that you get in current retail, probably even better
>>2066035I cannot stand the brainrot of pservers. Literally the worst of any game. I'd rather talk to WoW global chat or League all chat. See these threads.
>>2066038Same.FFxi Private servers are going downhill. What led to the decline?
>>2066039The players and untreated mental illness.
>>2066039A sane man can only handle so many years of CoP on the same server, a lot of the rational players quit or took a break.
>>2066002Setsuko Setsuko SetsukoBoth upcoming servers are trash for putting these "people" as their staff.
>>2066091Shut the fuck up Kipling.
>>2066091living rent free heheheh
I want to play a MMORPG with the feel FFXI gave me on day 1, when I started playing this awful game back in Nov/Dec of 2003. Where levels are hard and you gotta make friends to do shit. Level sync ruined this game. Idgaf what anyone says.
>>2065694this is the 1 schizo who obsesses over Discord profiles btw.meds pls friendo
>>2066112Near impossible to find a place to do this unless you get friends on retail and do the 75 cap playthrough. May have to resort to other games who suffer the same fate.
>>2066052Does a group of retards make them less retarded?
>>2066091The fat man is still mad Sets*ko didn't show him her titties nearly three years later.
>>2066125Dude gets rejected and makes it everyone else's problem. FFXI's own Elliot Rodgers.
>>2066094
>>2066141
>>2066125I would suck her big fucking titties.
>>2066159you're too old for her
Setsuko is in the epstein files
>>2066174no just running at least one of the new XI private servers apparently
Do you reckon it's possible to spin up a Real Nigga 75 with 5k, bros? Theoretically could I get close to horizon level "quality" (website, launcher etc) with 5k usd? I am starting to feel like the true path is just making Blue Collar Spongebob XI with all the settings/changes that aren't dumb and seeing how far we can take it, atleast then there'd be a 75 era server that's fresh with no "worry" playing the server, say the n word as much as you want etc maybe a global yell so you can go solo and still seek a party etc
>>2066308You can self host it on a decent used potato server with a 6/12 core xeon and 32gb of DDR4, it's just a LOT of work, and you get the distinction of being able to babysit up to 3-400 people at a time who love cheating, love bitching, love calling each other niggers, and love to try and get banned. Then you get some tryout trannies from Aerec's server who come just to cause trouble, bot hack, wall hack, speed hack, crash your server with Bellhop, etc. Then you get to recruit an army of developers who fix shit, implement changes, and they all do it for free, with no thanks, and some GMs which are basically reddit jannies who do it all for free, and take people's shit, and decide to quit GMing all of a sudden because it's a gay job you don't get paid for. IDK why people do this for free
setsuko this setsuko that dont forget birdy is an adult creep looking for erp in roblox and kid games
>>2066401I have 4 high spec AI Machine Learning/LLM computers, over 10k in this room easily(that's my IRL business/work) I am planning on using AI to assist with alot of the problems you mentioned I threw the 5000 number out there just to gauge if it'd be more or less but if you're saying I can spin it up on an old blade server in my shed then maybe it isn't too difficult, it's just dedicating some learning bandwidth to creating the ultimate ai server owner
>>2066401For the 5 seconds of fame. Look at how the retards react every time Ah Puch appears in town as a monster. Most people are over it but the new players still ooh and aah at him.
>>2066401>32 gb
>>2058783Bots make up at least half of their subscriptions, why would they
>>2064317It's really bizarre that somehow 20 years later people are just as clueless as ever like it's still normal to see sushi eating in dunes if they did even bother to bring food when rice dumplings is right there
>>2062511Why advertise wotg coming like that's a big deal? Toau is the proper final classic expac. Besides the missions, which okay. However I don't think people are clammering for them and a few gear pieces which most are just side grades the only real things it brought was the two jobs you can just activate via the way catseye activated run and geo. Also dnc is a mess in design Ffxi content drops might as well not have existed until abyssea post toau
>>2066499I wanna fight that guy IRL he falsebanned me and won't accept my living room CCTV footage to this day he just airs me or repeats the message that I'm no longer welcome to play, cunt saged my high level account with pretty much all missions completed because I didn't participate in his fag dance, cctv clears me of wrongdoing ofc
>>2066523you could have just answered when he tried to check you, but I'm sure you have a convenient reason as to why you couldn't, huh retard?
Horizon players are going to be so hilariously overpowered for toau that if they don't massively buff monsters or nerf player power it's just going to be a roll Relics were still rare when toau was current now every other groups is going to have like 2 minimum
>>2066530it shows it on the video and it's the reason I don't wanna post it on here lol I'm not shameless enough to show the whole squad me getting my innie blown by my overweight wife, the cctv footage does indeed fucking clear my name though, so remind me how I'm retarded bro, reply to me on discord so I can send you the vid
>>2066547you dont need a video to prove if you just answer when they check. why would anyone trust some retard's possibly altered video?yeah you 100% deserved the ban, get fucked lmao. You'll hop to the next private server and get banned for your obvious cheating there too. And then run back to this thread to cry again at the ripe old age of 42.
>>2066536thats why those relics should be disabled in toau bro
>>2066577Aerec is disabling them in TOAU areas
>>2066547>it shows it on the videoThe video you don't have? get banned idiot
>>2066616WTF aerec is good now???
>>2066547>reply to me on discord so I can send you the vid@Retard send me the vid
my wife shittend on my dink and now i'm banned
>>2066519because no one's ever done it properly and it's the last batch of 75cap content
>>2066561Horizon is known for cheaters
>>2066420Him and Hugin both
>>2066657One of the staff chronically cheated on his wife.
>>2066509Horizon sells runs 24/7 too
>>20665364 years of COP will do that. Horizon Server is borked now.
>>2066662Forgot to tell the wife but I decided its a polyamorous relationship.
>>2066662I’d say two of the staff cheated on their wives, possibly more, but two confirmed.
Hugin story is too funny lolNo baby I just send money to this girl online because I'm just nice
>>2066662>>2066686These threads were so much less gay before women were moral fagging in them day and night. No one cares.
>>2066712Yes it is only moral fagging women who shit up these threads your right anon.
>>2066708I prefer the Kipling "ERP with me or I'll kill myself" lore where he peruses these threads talking about women killing themselves because he cant' handle the rejection.
>>2066718Can't wait to see his shennangins on PhoenixXi.
>>2066717Yep exactly. Next you guys are gonna start demanding pronouns be used. No one cares about your woke BS
>>2066782Your right sis.
>>2066782nigga 40 years old and scared of words lmao
>>2066718when did that happen?
>>2066708Cheating on the person they cheated on their wife with is wild. *sips tea*
>>2066927Like the majority of this thread, it didn't.
>>2066739PhoenixXi sounds like the next big thing if done right. Plenty of people are willing to play on a server as long as it has a population and promise of a future. Does not matter how scummy the staff members are.
>>2066969I couldn't care less about who the staff members are or what they do in their personal lives. I want to enjoy XI with my friends and have fun.
>>2066708Not just one but several. If my sister started playing FFXI it wouldn't take long for him to show up an attempt to "offer help."
>>2066513If people aren't at very least using sausage or jerky or vendor food you can buy in your city they are bad and deserve to be replaced. I'll group with a no sub job using little more than a weapon but that's inexcusable.
>>2066980>Hey bby I heard you got a vaginer, you want some help?
>>2066670>1,067 days lateurCoasting on CoP>Every other server started with ToAU completely unlocked, some even have assaults, ZNM, Nyzul, mythic weapons fully workingWhat are they even doing?
>>2066969The Phoenix staff aren't scummy at all. Kipling is just a little horny, and a lotta fat.Hopefully Winter is permanently delegated to a codemonkey position and never given any staff/GM position, since he would actually cause issues because of his inability to not sperg 24/7.
>>2067109Phoenix staff artist depiction
>>2066969Phoenix needs a level sync system akin to horizon, I don't think people realize how much that one little change helpedIt forced people to actually leave the dunes perma sync which most pservers face and massively helps party creation with a 10 level difference
>>2067109Show him a picture of a poop emoji
>>2066990Dont make it that obvious. Just offer the help and make the reason for it ambiguous. That way, people will defend you if called out (:<
>>2058233Is anyone else lurking this thread who hasn’t touched FFXI yet? I played a bit of ffxiv/gw2 and was a wowfag, but I’m interested in finding a consistent party size of people that maybe want to try ffxi blind with me. The slower paced, group reliant gameplay (jank controls more than tolerable for me) is something I’ve been looking for; prioritizing playing together rather than soloing the game.If a handful of interested newbies can be found, was thinking of something like a once or twice weekly planned gaming sessions, kinda like a d&d group schedule.
>>2067319If woman, just log inso many nice and helpful people will show up to help you :)
>>2067350I’m not interested in either getting carebear’d or playing with people who already know the ins and outs of the game. It’s like other wowfags that just use third party sites or addons to handhold them an essentially play the game for them.I’m only interested in a group that wants to struggle, learn, and puzzle solve the game together because that’s what I believe is missing in mmo games: the players figuring the game out themselves instead of having someone else play it for them.
>>2067109>aren't scummy>but keep Kipling away from women and Winter away from everyone!It's okay to call the staff shit. You are anonymous.
>>2067163They've said in several places they're just waiting to see what the population looks like closer to launch. Seems like they will do a similar system for level sync if they get a decent amount of people interested in playing.
>>2067175he was looking for an intellectual argument for stackedfags to do anything other than piss their pants about not getting things for freeyou wouldn't understand
>>2067505Shut the fuck up Winter you screeching autist.
>>2067510who?
why do you guys spend your days schizoing about people anyway? how did they hurt you?
>>2067521It's untreated mental illness. Grown adults would rather post fanfics about someone they hate than play the game. Must be terrible to be around.
>>2067524unfortunately that seems to have a large overlap between FFXI players and 4chan
>>2067505Winter, people like you less when you can't engage in conversations like a normal, non-autistic rmong...
Imagine trying to champion a new server by sending your developer to have melties on 4chan. Truly great PR work.
how long has everyone ITT been off their meds? for me, 3 yearsmy wife left me btw
>>2067551you sure you don't also have autism? post normally
FFXI threads used to be so comfy before horizon launched. Now they're just full of schizos. niggas probably all got banned for fishbotting too
>>2067570dont be mad winter
oh no no no /xig/sisters not like this
>>2067667I hope they ban me.
>>2067667What horizon should have done from the beginning.
>>2067667Kipling realizes he is a serial cheater, right?
>>2067674Kipling wanted to do that but Aerec, being the retard that he is, thought it'd be wholesome if everyone (even known pariahs) got a fresh start
>>2067163Horizon wasn't the first second or even third server to gate level sync
>>2067679Let it go already Winter, this shit ain't healthy. You and the others around Phoenix behaving this way. If you want to act like you're better then you have to actually be better.
>>2067667E-sluts DoA
>>2067563Cant' expect her to stay when you spent all your time and money on the hxi e-sluts. Time & $$$
>>2067489Wonder what plans they have to generate a population. It's the only thing that matters, not the content as you can see with Horizons 4 year CoP server.
>>2067809Their discord already has 600 people in it and they haven't even given a launch date yet. Seems like it's growing to me.
>>2067834Zenith has 500.
>>2067809Aggressively recruit ninja and if ninja isnt available find some other washed up twitch slut they can flash money at
>>2067842Zenith made their Discord public in early May. Currently has 508 membersPhoenix made their Discord public at the end of August. Currently has 615 members.
>>2066420He's a man though and gets a pass. It's just like gtea "retiring" after getting into "legal trouble" for beating the crap out of his girlfriend apparently but no one talks about that because we're all about hating women
>>2067886>>2067842>>2067834They have plenty of overlap. Being in the discord does not mean they're going to choose that server. You'll see a bunch of people decide to play there, find something they don't like, and uninstall that shit.
>>2066420what's the story on this birdy meme?>>2067897the guy definitely looks like a former drug addict, and considering he hangs out with IH, makes sense those people would give him a pass
>>2067907The Birdy meme is trying to deflect from the pedo staff of Phoenix.
>>2067912Eh, at least their GMs aren't selling gil on EpicNPC and banning the people who buy it
>>2067319Yeah. I like to dabble with MMOs. I tried XI several years ago but the movement fucked with me (I don't even remember the issue anymore) and I don't have friends that play video games with me so everything is alone.
>>2067918Speaking of, whatever happened to Shozo or whatever his name is?
>>2067849Zenith can throw Tanniefae at it, so old men can jerk off to her getting lost in East Ronfaure, but idk about Phoenix.
>>2067933How do these e-thots not get banned on twitch for playing on pservers?
>>2067940Same reason nobody gets banned on Twitch for playing pservers.
>>2067948b-but women!
>>2067948They do for playing on Turtle WoW
>>2067319Stay away from the game. Retail isn’t going to give you what you are asking for and you wowfags will complain pservers are too grindy.
>>2067380Retail is a solo game.You aren’t going to find 5 people who haven’t played the game and are interested in here, I think that should be obvious, assuming pserver is what you were aiming for from the get go.If you can’t socialize with different kinds of people then I recommend playing retail, which has been essentially been sanitized to have wow-like progression where everything can be done alone, though I would not call that sanitation, more like bastardization
>>2067834Good numbers, needs to get higher.
>>2067886More>>2067897
>>2067897This never happened. Made up garbage and sourceless LMFAO
Anyone else applying to Ziz's LS?
>>2068016coming to defend random ecelebs. I doubted initially but now im convinced it happened
Couldn't even last 2 years.
Feeling the urge to resub
>>2068207Wait for a free login campaign, play the game for a few weeks, remember why you don't play ffxi retail anymore, uninstall.
>>2068207>>2068243Retail usually goes free around Christmas if you're able to wait a month.
>>2067926My friends have traded mmos for single player or gacha games, so I’m hoping to find a new group that would like to game (ffxi or otherwise). Else I just end up gaming alone. If you want to give ffxi a shot, what ver (retail/pserver) and what days/time works for you? I’m also open to other games but I’m honestly limited to my laptop until I can save up enough to repair my gaming rig.>>2067963I’m open to either type of ffxi, and I’m autistic as fuck when it comes to slow-paced, grindy games. I didn’t just play retail/pservers since vanilla, but have grinded in korean mmos like BDO or Aion, so I doubt this’ll phase me (outside of playing alone).>>2067972>retail is a solo gameThat aspect bores me, but I’m open to tolerating it if I approach it with a group of dedicated newbs.>if you can’t socialize I recommend retailTypically not an issue if the community is mildly more sentient than the bots you see farming gold/gil in games. But usually in game I’ve come across people that basically have chat turned off or are devoting 50% of their attention to a movie/show while they’re gaming, and that just makes it feel like I’m grouped with npcs.I want to actively converse with people and in an mmo setting, I want it to be us theorycrafting ideas and not mentally checked out. But if I can’t get enough people then I’ll check other communities or try different games then.
>>2068304If you don't want retail Catseye is like a crappy 75 version of retail. It's 2 box with trusts which sucks but there's another game mode that doesn't let anyone 2 box and only ever lets you use 2 trusts and plenty of people play it. It's a mix of solo and grouping, like you can solo if you want and groups are going to be better It also has a global linkshell and people are always doing shit. If you need 2k pop for some reason and a bunch of people who already completed the game several times over and play the real endgame which is going afk in jeuno 24/7, there's Horizon
>>2067912is birdy the same nonce that was super in front when eventide came out? i remember barely having the game running and this mfer was already BLU doing shenanigans, saw the disc-clique orbiting him in a VC and was super disheartened, discord was a fucking mistake vros
>>2068304Just say you're a girl on horizon
>>2068422>Hey baby you wanna get on video chat and show me your tits?
>>2067573No they weren't, threads pre horizon was just having meltys about 14 and just using 11 as a weapon against itTrue 11 discussion died with like wow releasing lol
>>2068419He's now on Phoenix so checks out.
>>2068304I'm not picky on either retail or a private server. I mostly play pservers myself when it comes to MMO. I don't know anything about XI so I don't know which (retail or private) would offer a better experience. I'm NA and in a shitty NEET situation so day times maybe some nights would be fine. We can hash it out further once we get some more interest and see what a potential party looks like, how many others join us, yknow.
new retail content is cool but why did they stop doing class rebalancing. the paladin one was received so well
>>2068463Is this the fat man's opening line?
>>2068075I wish, but >no point wipe Enjoy not getting any loot ever unless you camp all day every day (how the fuck can Naten camp every single NM all day every day? is he getting paid?)
>>2069123NEET
>>2069123No point wipe? How does that work for the ones not coming from Frens?
>arguing about HNM camping DKPYou are all scum and I hope you get the rope
>>2069264its a fresh DKP system, everybody starts from zero>>2069123i'm sorry you've been in WD so long that you've been brainwashed by their trash system. in better linkshells with better systems, high-ticket items are effectively point-wipes because the market prices them as such. ds
>>2069343Sorry your shitty LS died.
>>2068948Yeah that sounds good. I’ll do some more research on the available pservers and see which one I may gravitate towards. I encourage you to look into them as well and see if either pulls you more over the other. Do you have a preference on the kind of job you enjoy? Tank/Heals/DPS, range, melee, caster etc? I find myself more particular with tanks/melee dps than others in most games I play.Assuming we still need to find 3 more players for a full group yeah?
I've been off my meds since Horizon launched because I lost my job immediately (I am an addict)Aerec banned me after he fucked my male dog
>>2068075no, everyone who does HNMs on Horizon is a faggot and deserves death. If you're one of those people, you know its true. Please just kill yourself.
What if a server replaced the entire lottery spawn system on a server with an escha-style system where any random monster in a given area has a low% chance to spawn as a NM that is already flagged and claimed?All of the lizards around Lizzie's rock, maybe a 1% chance to spawn claimed upon killing a trash NMKnight crabs up 24/7, 12 minute respawn, 1 in ~700 spawns KA, same with Simmy, Roc, Serket but add a bunch of related mobs in these zones.For HNM kings, ground kings, forced spawn with the item to pop it being a random drop throughout the zone. CoP dragons, and other harder shit should be spawned with multiple tokens like sky gods but each of these should drop from a specific mob family like corses, ants, worms, flies and each token should take roughly 6-12h to farm
>>2069648Did a Phoenix dev write this?
>>2069656Idk wym that has Horizon era plus slop all over it
>>2069373frens is alive and well, and will even survive ziz taking many of its strongest players.gl grinding 8 months for an ebody or whatever
>>2069663Zenith's AI team
>>2069671I wouldn't necessarily call them strong players. Geared NEETs with loads of time for sure, like Shikihima, but really any retard with a pulse can do HNMs.
>>2067521When people run out of content in MMOs they make their own and that content is usually high school drama when it's for a completely solved game. When people are busy grinding they're too preoccupied to care about random faggots, when all they're doing is standing around Jeuno all day or AFKing at HNMs then that's when the schizos come out.That's why the initial leveling period is the best, then when people get their first 75 the HNM LS tribalism comes out and then the loot goblins lead to inner LS drama and everything degrades from there.
>>2069710FFXI's endgame has always been dog shit.
>>2069648never cook again
>>2069806>yeah hi I'm down again this year to level another character on another fresh server again like i did the last 16 times and *adjust britches* i don't want anything to be different at all this time. I'm going to make my usual beeline to 75, compete with all the other no-life NEETs who play this game for 23.5 hours a day, and bitch about all the other custom servers that are doing everything wrong I tell ya hwat
>>2069343good luck going for a item in the new clique ls against 60 other faggots be smarter to join WD after the bandwagoners leave and get all gear with minimal effort kek
>>2069836yes. this is japanese everquest. this is what we like.
>>2070055I hope those faggot linkshells dont join Phoenix or Zenith. Dont need faggot drama
>>2069343afaik only heirloom has point wipe, but they also wipe to aspid so there's that. Honestly as a new player you should probably just wait for toau and see if any new HNMls will be forming by then, all of them suck in one way or another
A level 90 cap Abyssea/WoTG server would be peak. Full trials of the magians to 90Empyrean armoractually fun/challenging content that takes skill and gear and not this easy mode ToAU/CoP bullshit Who has a working 90 cap server?
>>2070139i'm good thanks
>>2070142nobody asked you
>>2070148sorry
>>2067319i've played a little bit of retail, but wouldn't say that i'm that well versed in the game overall. i've made an account on Horizon and haven't played it yet. i'll play with you, bro if you'll have me.
>>2069481#notallfaggots
>>2070252Yes all of them especially you, fag
>>2070139>all mages get access to accession, convert, Refresh and haste except Scholar who has to give up Refresh and Convert for Haste>all meele get SekkanokiI disagree
>>2070139Make accession/manifestation, convert, all storm and helix spells, and sekkanoki 41+ and I’d find 80 cap acceptable.Theres no way to make 90 cap acceptable without gating all those abilities to 50+ which would make leveling those jobs much more boring for their first half of levels.Theres just no way I’m gonna accept cucking sam and sch like that unecessarily on top of making rdm a worse whm the game needs that kind of uniqueness and exclusivity in jobs to work.
Horizon is sandnigger serverZenith is for trusts and troonsPhoenix is for gooners
>>2070519Based gooner server
>>2070572Phoenix server sounds like the play
>>2070811Only Goons LS forming(dra)gooners only
>>2070242Hell yeah. That makes three of us now, just two more brave newb souls to join us. What kind of job/play style speaks to you? Just to get an idea of our party composition. I mentioned my inclinations here: >>2069451And I may be open to flexing if the game demands it. I just want to have fun exploring and solving challenges by ourselves.
>>2069451Are there any classes that aren't available (to ignore)? I don't know anything about the state of content/expansions in whichever versions that are accessible. I missed this post but I'm willing to try anything except healing.
>>2070465>>2070491ideally paladin would get cucked, and we'd see monks, ninjas, and other melee in full DT gear taking their place for most content. past a certain point, sekkanoki is useless, good melee like war/sam will have so much fluff they'll be multi-stepping solo with haste+cor+bardoh hey look pup is useful againwhm will have orison legs+2 so infinite healing BLMs will actually be able to use their TP to myrkrSCH will have immanence and be able to solo skillchainMelee blue mage with almace doing samurai damageRelic+2 armorEmpy+2 armor Level 90 relic/mythic/empy weapons
>>2070139the friendly monk with his 1-5 healsluts:
>>2070913None of the classes/jobs are off limits (if that’s what you’re asking). I don’t really know anything about the content of each expansion or what ones introduced new jobs (if true). If we have a full group but no one is interested in healing, I’m open to filling that role. Let me know what jobs interest you!
>>2070951None of those things are good its all just powercreep or removing downtime entirely
>>2071078At a cursory glance from the vanilla Jobs, I'm interested in: Summoner, Monk, Dark Knight, maybe Paladin if I end up tanking.
>>2070880>What kind of job/play style speaks to you? i like tanking and want to try Dark Knight as well. i'll probably just start out as Warrior and see how it goes.
>>2070951So basically you want:>general powercreep>ruination of resource management>less job identity>turn every job into a one trick ponyScholar is supposed to be a healer and nuker at the same time but after the cap increase it was turned into a skillchain bot only and all the buff spells they could use were turned into 10+ minutes with gear so you don’t have to think about it anymore.Why don’t you just play wow or ffxiv?
>>2071143>>2071149I’ll make a temp disc acc tomorrow morning and the both of you (or the two or more people that are interested) can add me from there and we can try and coordinate more. Out of the servers I could look into, it seems like Horizon and Catseye are the most likely safe bets, maybe a preference towards Horizon since Catseye appears to promote solo play with the use of trusts. I’ll probably play white mage/scholar.We can talk more about how often we’re interested in playing, expectations, schedules, etc. from there.
>>2071198SCH was always a BLM alternative that had the ability to heal and buff. There was never a time in the history of SCH where it equaled white mage.>oh hey look ranger is useful again.>oh hey look bard as a twatstar/Carnwenhan DD is bad ass but 99.99% of people think they're buff bots and can't play bard. >oh hey look Corsair gets some useful rolls>oh hey look Ninja, bard, and summoner all get a spell to prevent the tank from getting flattened by the boss's abilitiesAbyssea gives you basically unlimited amounts of shit to do compared to the normal 75 cap, the bosses are much harder, have actual tricks and strategies needed to kill them. 75-cap retail was fucking EZ and is fucking boring. Tell me how many of you want to start a new character again from 0 and level it up to 75 and do the same shit you already did 8 times before? How many times do you need to get a maat's cap?
>>2071535You guys should play on catseye but as crystal warriors or on Horizon as a static
>>2071544Is that what the mode/option means? That you can still group with other players just not trusts? I wasn’t sure if it was a version of Ironman mode.
>>2071547yeah its basically runescape ironman but ffxi style. you get to unlock an unlimited material storage which you can access from the guilds, there's no AH or trade between players, and it has custom content like https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/CatsEyeXI_Content/Crystal_Warrior#Allied_Incursion
>>2071552I’m open to it, but I’d discuss it with the group first to make sure everyone wants the same thing. I don’t necessarily need that challenge when my main focus is just exploring a game blind with some (maybe new?) friends together.
>>2071556Horizon as a static is probably the best option, having more than one keystone member of your party will be helpful. If one of your members wants to be like a ninja or a paladin and you can get a red mage or a bard or a really good DD like a dragoon or a drk/nin you should be all set.
>>2071535I'd rather communicate through Steam (and perhaps create a group) if its all the same.>>2071556I'm not interested in an optional challenge for my first character.Also I didn't realize that you needed to be a certain level to unlock certain classes. In that case, I'd probably play Monk or B.Mage. If the other guy plays Warrior then I'll likely go Monk.
>>2071598You also have to consider what kind of a subjob you want to play with. You might end up with a few warriors when you're under 30. warrior is an ideal subjob for most melee. Monks will generally always sub warrior if they're not asked to sub ninja.
>>2071556Thats retarded, join phoenix where you'll be on a level playing field with other new people.
>>2071677sure when it releases in 2027
>>2071598>prefer steam for communicationI’m up for that, I more just don’t want to place my actual contact info on here. Unless you’re not bothered having yours up, then I’ll add you when you do. Otherwise I’ll make the temp disc and figure out our contact situation tomorrow.
>>2071556Don't make it impossible to find urselves pls, i have 10 PAL, BRD, MNK, WHM. RDM, BLM, THF "ready" to dunes it up, WAR and NIN already finished (levelled to 37) so make sure u post the stream group or just drop an SS of you and the bros so I can find you ziggers in the dunes
Is there a catseye mod shilling their dogshit server on these threads and /v/ or is it really one extremely autistic catseyegger?Its starting to get really fucking annoying with the gaslighting
Is there any point in playing retail these days?
>>2071972No worse than all the faggots shilling their HorizonXI Nasomi 2.0 dog shit server.
>>2072076Nobody is shilling horizon, this thread is entirely hating on aerec or some dumb attention whore butthurt they didn’t get their mcguffin in their hmnls but catseye isn’t a fucking 75 cap server its literally just a worse version of retail so why the fuck is it ever brought up here? Poorfaggots or that subhuman spicyryan?
>>2071535tank anon here. i'd rather do all communication in game, but if we gotta do a steam group i'd be cool with it. i don't mind to start a linkshell if you guys have any idea on a name. i just got on to make sure my controller works and everything and i'll be able to play a little more over the weekend.
>>2071677“New people” it just sounds like LimitBreak 2.0 where the fat man and his friends ran the server and generated all the drama. No thank you. People rag on Aerec but at least his friends mostly keep out of the main population and don’t cause problems
>>2071668I noticed subjobs too. I reckon that's a thing I'll deal with when I get to that point.>>2071713You can add mine. Search 'Yugol'. Pic rel is my avatar. If anyone else wants to join this thing then you can use me as a contact point since I'm already posting and Glorious Leader wants to remain anon.
>>2071972>>2072081There has been a wave of newfags join that kind of like both servers so you get positive posts about both inbetween the boomer drama, myself being one of them, catseye is based and some of the party content is unironically better than horizon, venture parties rock
>>2072172Except nobody recommends catseye unironically to someone that wants the old experience unless they are gaslighting the absolute living shit out of them.
>>2072106If you actually think that then he has successfully deceived you. You don’t hear about his friends because when he gives them special treatment it is behind closed doors. Like unbanning his friends who fish bot for example…
>>2072253don't forget doing character renames without telling or asking the GMs
>>2071899it's PLD, you aint my "PAL"
>>2072262Like Greek or is there more? lmao
>>2071899What server(s)? I’ll screenshot ya post to keep you in mind, and if you’re not in the steam group/link shell then I’ll post for ya here if we decide to.>>2072085Personally I’d choose a matrix server, or even IRC, but offered disc because it’s damn easiest for others to use, but I can also use steam. What server?>>2072125Found your account but mine is too new to add anyone. This is my friend code: 807750940
>>2072310whoops, i just assumed that we'd be on horizon, my bad. anyway, irc would be dope. just let a niggy know if you end up adding >>2072125 and what y'all decide to do
>>2072106>People rag on Aerec but at least his friends mostly keep out of the main population and don’t cause problemsLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I wasn't aware Aerec had "friends"
>>2072326I’m assuming the others want to use steam (but if they also choose based IRC then praise be to allah). Just waiting for the jobber or anyone to add me while I do some configurations.
>>2071541More incorrect statements could not have been said.Scholar, before the cap increase, was a flex healer in lowman situations and the ultimate BLM party support in alliances.Raising the level cap not only ruined its identity but also rdms.
>>2072891my cocks identity got ruined by abyssea :(
>>2072896
>>2072106LMFAO this is the biggest lie i've heard in a while. The staff are responsible for most of the bullshit that goes on in the server. Who paid you to type that?
>>2072900Ninja...
>>2072253Every member of the Horizon staff has given or continue to give special treatment behind closed doors and right in the face of the public. If you bring it up they know the retarded sycophants will to jump to defend it. Crazy to believe otherwise.
>>2072900yeah, the head gm is a notable one. any small server where staff plays the game is going to be an issue at some point unless they don't touch the hnm end game at all.
>>2072900I said his friends. Not his little worker ant staff, you fucking retard. People like Ninja who don’t interact with the general populace unlike fat man’s friends who ruined LB with their stupid drama and steal Kirins on HXI. And they will ruin PXI the same way since they’ll be protected by him.
>>2072991I don't do endgame. explain this "steal Kirin" drama I keep hearing about.If it goes white, anybody can grab it. How is it stealing?
>>2073000It isn't stealing, that's why it's manufactured and retarded fake "drama". Claiming white mobs has never been against the rules on any server, or retail.
>>2073000It's stealing because it effected Damarus's linkshell, that's why
Damarus: I HATE THAT FAGGOT KYNE WHO STOLE MY KIRIN AFTER HE WARNED THE TANK THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE IT IF IT WENT WHITE AGAIN
>>2072991Horizon server already ruined entirely. It's now a slave pen for the sheep waiting for TOAU and a fuckbox for the devs/staff. They fuck the players in that fuckbox, some literally.
>>2072980Do they even still exist?
>>2072212the only server that gives you "the old experience" is Eden. Horizon is not an Era server. Catseye is Retail Jr. and mostly everything on there is some wonky hodgepodge of custom content shit that was made to work.
>>2072891What was wrong about it? Sch has never come close to WHM healing efficacy, at best they're a support for accession weathers,phalanx, stoneskin, and regen. Outside of these things they're a crappy red mage with better nukes.Raising the level cap made SCH more useful. WHM has always mogged sch and at 90 they get orison pants +2 which basically give them infinity ability to toss single cures. After immanence they become indispensable in a blm party as they create the skillchains the BLMs MB. Guess what, RDM is still useful.
Me and >>2072125 are linked up, I’m just figuring out my settings/controls, and then I want to know what everyone’s playtimes was gonna be, and which server. Placeholder server on Horizon rn.>>2072085Let us know when you add Yugoslav so we can start planning/start gaming yeah?
>>2073164wondering why ppl arent playing on Eden. Especially if it already has everything people are looking for
>>2073282I'm having the worst time trying to install Horizon to test it out.>download installer>tells me game is ready to play (it isn't)>can't even access the download path through the dogshit launcher (which launcher doesn't allow this???) to see the files I don't have installed>don't have these magical several-gig sized zips to extract fromI've played dozens of private servers and few if any have been so convoluted.
>>2073333Yeah the launcher was a bitch and an ass to me. For the file path, I wasn’t able to just “select” a file path, it wanted me to manually type it in the box. Try and see if that works? Once the launcher is installed it will unload the fatass GBs.Also add us on steam bro.
>>2073322Probably the dual boxing.
>>2073322it's old as shit so there's not a lot of people and the ones that do play are all dual boxing
>>2073333Horizon's path is in users/username/ roaming and the other one. It's kind of stupid but you can just put it wherever you want.
>>2073333The launcher is just plug and play. Are you retarded?
>>2073333You might be missing one or more dependencies(all those check boxes) that would have been installed during the first run. Try reinstalling it?
>>2073348>>2072125friend invite sent
>>2073333What the fug. I deleted and reinstalled the launcher files like twice, and now it's decided to let me download the game. The only explanation I can think of is perhaps it saw some file or some anything from the one time YEARS back I played, and assumed the game was still installed for some fucking reason.I'll mess around ingame later to make sure it works and I'll probably go ahead and make a Steam group. I need to AFK a bit this morning so it'll be several hours.
>>2073178>Sch has never come close to WHM healing efficacyAre you talking about retail era or current retail cause for both of those your statements are wrong.Current retail sch gets the best regens in the game which is the most mp efficient healing so at best they are adjacent to whm.Sch and rdm were both better healers than whm in retail simply because you never actually needed cure V and sch got regens earlier too nevermind the way better mp efficiency from things like sublimation and light arts.
>>2073888Current retail you get a bunch of gear that makes Regen 5 strong, but not anywhere near as useful as a white mage. SCH can't hang, WHM on retail gets mad buffed barspells, light arts, accession aurorastorm, much faster cures, much stronger cures, gear you can use to give your barspells more mdb, sacrosanctity, etc. Your spells also get big dick stoneskin on top of 5% mp back from healing so you never run oom. 75 era whm gets yag+kclub, spam boon, never run oom, which you can also use on most content that isn't big dragon
>>2073911>yag+kclub, spam boon, never run oom, which you can also use on most content that isn't big dragonYou’re joking right? Not only are you suggesting white mage was better because of a mythic weapon, but you’re saying that they could melee with it for infinite mp.
>>2073969No, I'm not kidding. That's a META build and you should know about it.
>>2073971Its the meta if you have it, its unrealistic to think most people playing whm will have a yagrush, not even less than half of the population in retail back then had a mythic or a relic.You’re also a retard for thinking the endgame or merit meta, assuming you have a yagrush, is having a whm melee with /nin sub. Its at best a novelty or a lowman situation in certain niches.
>>2067319>>2070242A Steam group for this idea has been made. This is very barebones and rudimentary so ideas/suggestions/thoughts on what to add to the group are welcome. Once we decide on a server I'll try to post some relevant documentation like a wiki link.>https://steamcommunity.com/groups/exxeyeonline
>>2074307Looks like it’s three of us in the group (WHM, WAR, ?) on Horizon unless we get more people and/or who are interested for a different server. And the plan is to start a little later today.
>>2074203It wasn't niche or a merit meta, but even for the majority of white mages who didn't have access to a full melee build You still have shellra/protectra 5, enhanced barspells, fast cast cure spells with merits and clogs, and the most important thing which is curaga spells. At 75 you're using all of your strats keeping stoneskin and regen 3 up which white mage also gets. and then you're out of mana
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>>2072991The Pokémon people kept LB alive idk what you’re talking about lol. Sounds like you didn’t actually play there
>>2074872>it wasn’t nicheMelee whm? As a main healer? Yes it was>You still have shellra/protectra 5, enhanced barspellsDoesn’t matter>fast cast cure spells with merits and clogsDoesn’t matter and sch gets something like this too>and the most important thing which is curaga spellsSCH had Curaga 4 and could boost it with both divine seal and raptureWhite mage didn’t get regenga or stoneskinga you didn’t use the latter regularly either in a traditional party setup on any type of lowman when you had access to much better things to aoe like phalanxga, all stats + 3, anystat+7, enspellga, making aoe debuffs that aren’t normally aoeable like gravity and bind, etc. even aquaveil was a more useful spell to aoe than stoneskin.AOE stoneskin was useful for a blm party running /sch for more damage and thats it.
>>2074872>sch >going oomThe only reason whm stopped going oom after sch released was because whm could sub it for:>light arts mp reduction and fast cast boost>+10 to all of their relevant skill levels>the ability to cast unresisted aspir>penury and alacrity>sublimationSch gets a faster tic version of sublimation, enhanced light arts, aurorastorm, and more stratagem charges on a lower cooldown it was literally the most mp efficient mage no matter what it was doing. Only reason rdm could keep up was convert.
>>2075561>Doesn’t matter and sch gets something like this too>SCH had Curaga 4Sorry you're out of stratagems from keeping stoneskinga and regen3ga up which was your job until you got embrava. Then, that was SCH's job until they got immanence, because black mages were just better at nuking Phalanxga ok but the only person who really needs that is the paladin/tank, and rdm got phalanx 2 anyway. SCH only ever got Regen 3 which WHM also got. WHM's Regen 3 wasn't that much worse, and WHM wouldn't have used sub sublimation because RDM refresh was better. The big problem is that SCH is not a tank healer. SCH is a support class that CAN heal. SCH will run oom very quick supporting a tank against anything above some ZNMs and merits.
>>2075643WHM was the most irrelevant job at 75 cap, it needed the most buffs of any job in the game to become mildly useful and it was still weaker than SCH and RDM. It ran out of MP too quickly and had no way to recover afterwards.For some reason it sounds like you live in the abyssea era? Which is kind of sad, because that was the most braindead time to play where everyone had HP values pumped up to like 4k+ and a million refresh for free. So of course WHM becomes slightly relevant here, in 0 skill afk 'content'. Even SE wants to forget this shit as it killed the game.Odd that you mention embrava, which completely made WHM useless as that and regen and other SCH buffs made WHM a wasted slot for like... 10+ years.Odd that you don't mentions stuns which SCH was necessary for around adoulin.Ultimately, WHM has been the shittiest job in this game's history, and when we examine why, it's easy to see that it's because this game is all about PREVENTING damage. Utsusemi, stuns, kiting, etc these are all things WHM does not help with at all. If your LS is bringing a WHM to anything, it's exclusively to be a teleport slut and maybe a barfira or raise 3 or something.
>>2075643> Sorry you're out of stratagems from keeping stoneskinga and regen3ga up which was your job until you got embrava.Since when did you waste charges using stoneskinga and regenga did you even read the post you replied to?Aoe stoneskin was situational or prepull. Aoe regen was on a per need basis you dont need to keep regen up on everyone at all times you didnt spend charges on this that much.>WHM wouldn't have used sub sublimation because RDM refresh was better.You are either clueless, trolling or just insane. Sublimation was 200+ mp on average for a fucking taru and it was instant and stacked with ballad why wouldnt you use it when whms best sub was already sch>SCH will run oom very quick supporting a tank against anything above some ZNMs and merits.Youre just retarded
>>2074872>and the most important thing which is curaga spells. This is probably the best part of your delusional rant about an era you did not play. Not only could scholar turn a 50% boosted cure 4 aoe and hit their entire party with it they could cast this on any outside party and it would aoe everyone in it. Scholar could do this with any targetable buff/heal that could be casted on someone outside your party, like -na spells. They buffed whm with stuff like esuna and divine veil just because of this and thats also why yagrush is so strong, all because of something a scholar could do with a single job ability of theirs.
>>2075673you're just looking to argue, whm sub scholar takes a really long time to charge up and refresh is just better you can have your 2 mp/tick while refresh casts bounce off of you or you can have your 3 mp a tick you can use right now, you would know that stoneskinga and regenga were kept up 100% of the time on aoe heavy fights because they help, and otherwise you'd be asked to come something else. You're just retarded, come at me when you've actually played the job.
>>2075679Yeah and how often do you have 2 charges to do that? never.
>>20756824 charges total, 1 charge every minute. Please keep making it more obvious that you have no idea what you’re talking about.
>>2075681Sublimation sub was 2 hp > 2mp every tic, barely worse than refresh and stored more overall mp than refresh by the time its done.Sublimation on sch main at 75 was 2 hp > 6 mp per tic, making it effectively twice as better as refresh and you could enhance it with AF.Considering whm had serious mp problems without refresh or ballad and sublimation could stack with ballad then I think anyone can tell why whm preferred using sublimation, especially when light arts was such a huge fucking buff to everything they do. The only time whm would ever want refresh is in an alliance situation where both you as a whm and the rdm don’t have much else to do other than heal the tank party or debuff.>you would know that stoneskinga and regenga were kept up 100% of the time on aoe heavy fights because they helpKeeping regenga up 100% of the time was a waste of a charge. Stoneskinga outside of prepull or a blm party was a waste of a charge.If the scholar was main healing a lowman you would never use those because you have several other things that are more useful to aoe, including stat buffs, enspells, barspells, debuffs or sleepga in case of links and things like phalanxga.If the scholar was doing alliance content then they are either crowd controlling/healing the entire alliance or buffing the blm party.
>>2075681In what world did you make any 6 man parties with a whm and rdm together unless it was a dunes party? You’re talking like the only content you ever did was sky and whm still subbed sch for those and did much less than what the sch or rdm were doing in those parties. You were pretty much just a curebot for the tank party.Like on what fucking grounds can you even accuse someone of not playing a job when it sounds like youve barely played the game at 75cap or played during the post abyssea era?
>>2075681>using a charge on regen when only 2 or 3 people in the party are hurtBut why? You literally have 3 fucking regen spells, you’d use the charge on it maybe during downtime or because everyone in the party is hurt.
>>2073911>>2073971>>2074872>"what's the meta at 75?">"oh you just need your job's best weapon available"kys retard
>>2075759You can't start playing your job unless you ding into a mythic and kclub offhand
>>2075660>Leveling WHM up past 37/42
>>2075685yeah in what fights are they bringing you where they don't need your aoe stoneskin and regen because you're taking heavy AoE damage?You can come a different class>>2075689ok so it's worse. I'm talking about fights like KB and fafnog where they'd actually make use of your stoneskinga not fucking merit parties. in this case you're either playing your intended role or your spot can go to somebody useful, in merit parties who gives a fuck? I'm not even talking about that. >>2075697i always ran with a group that low-manned HNMs and ZNMs, kings, and most other high content. 6-8 people total except for big dragon and zergs. in a group like this a rdm was essential. SCH could have also been useful to deal with the AoEI've mained WHM since 04 and SCH since 2008, my yagrush is old enough to drink. I know a little bit about healing. >>2075750party is taking constant aoe damage they need to mitigate, why else in the 75 era would they bring a SCH and not a better class?>>2075759What is the point of ffxi? Oh hey look the mythic changes how most classes play their job, you can remain ignorant of it.
>>2076512>You can come a different classUh bro my job has to be the best in all situations just like xiv or I'm going to be pissed
>>2076547this isn't world of warcraft, you can level more than one class. Most HNM linkshells wouldn't have let you join just having one 75 class unless you're cool coming bard to everything.
>>2074579aw shit, where you guys starting at, I got a level 10 RDM in san doria from like 2 years ago that I never got around to playing
Best job to play on horizon to prepare for BLU? ive been drifting on every job. now everything is between 30-40 and i cant decide what to focus on.
>>2076752/SMNIt's fucking weird, but I'm telling you dude, it works
>>2076752merits for MP, sword skill, optional club, evasion parry SIRD. Somehow I doubt Aerec is going to let BLUs just METAcleave everything but you never know
>>2076752>Thinking ToAU is coming out for horizon in the next 1-2 years
>FFXI release date: May 16, 2002>Treasures of Aht Urghan release date: April 20, 2006>Horizonxi release date: December 17. 2022>Current date: November 24, 2025At this rate, the original ToAU would release sooner than Horizon's ToAU. They better hurry it the fuck up, there's now less than 1 year left.
>>2076512Regardless of your warped perception of how you’re supposed to play 75cap era, “stoneskinga spam” was definitely not a thing. It was a thing in your purposely made lowmans because you were literally turtling them to make up for your utter lack of damage and you’re using that as some sort of argument to give yourself higher ground when in reality you’re one of the faggot players making horizon worse with your godawful opinions stemming from your shitty clique.Its pretty clear scholars role differed depending on content and party setup, you’re going to have to cope with that.
>>2077130Horizon started with cop so they are technically behind schedule
>>2077245Are you really still trying to say scholar was a better healer than white mage in 75 era? Just because you needed to stack 18 shitters to kill most HNMs doesn't mean the rest of us played that way. It's pretty clear SCH wasn't all that useful outside of the very niche scenarios I already described which is why SE had to eventually give them Embrava and immanence. A SCH will not replace a WHM. I've never played on Horizon.
When SCH was released with WotG on retail it was literal dogshit. They had to buff it a lot.
>>20772541,073 days later, still no ToAUy'all got rugpulled.
>>2076512>>2077294>i lowmanned znms and hnms by using a yagrush whm, a rdm and sch spamming as much mitigation as possible I know what I am talking about this is literally how the game is regularly playedAre you even aware how ridiculous you sound right now?I am not sure whats worse, that you wasted everyones time doing shit like lowman dynamis and hnms or that you think whm was the pinnacle of healing in the game because of yagrush something a ls literally funneled everyones time and resources to get for a single person. You are pedantic as fuck, par for the course for the typical endgame player of this game though you don’t even understand how your own words apply to yourself:>Just because you needed to stack 18 shitters to kill most HNMs doesn't mean the rest of us played that way.Stop posting
>>20773192,459 days since Eden came out with ToAUDays until Horizon gives up on ToAU and becomes a CoP-only server:Days until Phoenix/Zenith come out and 90% of Horizon's population jumps ship:
>>2077333Can you read? it's all situational, like everything else in this game. How about you just STFU because you sound like a random shitter who cant do anything but argue about shit you don't know about. I was there. I've done it all. I was a HNM ls leader for 7 years, what have you done? Why don't you stop posting?
>>2077346Can you? All you’ve done is talk about how a specific class was the best at a specific role because of their literal ultimate weapon that takes a shitton of time to grind and because of your own PERSONAL experience. You said it yourself, everything in this game is fucking situational and dependent on the situation and party setup so why are you contradicting yourself? Pedantic lunatic. You have no knowledge anyone in this thread doesn’t already have. Stop posting
>>2077361Or, how about you GFY?You sound like a dumb troll who spent more time running his mouth than playing the game. I will continue posting.
>>2077367Run out of arguments have you? At least you finally understand how much of a retard you are.
>>2077373I'm honestly surprised you've never seen anyone else do the Yagrush meta. The JP on my server were doing it 15+ years ago. If you were some abyssea+ baby I'd understand, or if you didn't get into HNMs and endgame until later, but you just sound ignorant or maybe your server didn't do it. But, to call me a retard? you are a child.
>>2077367>NOOO I PLAYED THE GAME MORE BECAUSE I HAVE A YAGRUSH I’M BETTER THAN YOUHubris and delusional
>>2077382Nobody was doing the yagrush “meta” because most people didn’t have a yagrush. I think thats pretty easy to understand unless you’re someone as full of yourself as you are. You didn’t get Yagrush on your own by the way and scholar can still do what whms does with Yagrush without having to melee the mob, SCH was always blm and whm adjacent that was literally the point of the class to be a slightly worse version of both with some limitations and its own unique spell-line.
>>2077395no, I didn't. I had a lot of help. Mythics weren't that uncommon around 09/10 if you had a linkshell that did einherjar, ZNM, salvage, assaults, and nyzul you could have made one in about 8 months or so. and yagrush was one of the common ones. There were 2 dozen or so on my server. Mostly JP players
>>2077422Thats not a large metric at all.
When is phoenix releasing Kipling?
>>2077338Zenith has had no updates on its github in 3 months, Loxley got board.
>catseye has trusts and is dead>nasomi was a purist server with no toau and is now dead>eden is a toau server with dualboxing and is now dead>horizon is promising to be a singlebox 75 cap era server with all expansions including wotg and adoulin and has 2000 players on average and started with over 4000Does Loxley seriously believe people want a server with trusts? His server would probably be the best if it dropped the trust shit.I am honestly surprised Phoenix discord doesn’t have more people, maybe horizon killed overall interest by giving all potential players mass fear of losing all the time they invested.
>>2077254Aerec literally at release of his shitty ass erver>We are thinking probably 6 months or so we should have TOAU out
>>2078095>Zenith stonks crashed>Phoenix stonks growing steadily>Horizon stonks stagnantWe really are fucked aren't we
Why does everyone expect Phoenix to do well when its the exact same people who helped with Horizon?
>>2078167Because the people who got Horizon off the ground and actually playable are the ones who are making Phoenix. The people who do zero work, like Aerec, are the ones who stayed with Horizon (and why its not gotten any content updates in 3 years).
>>2078198Critical left immediately at launch and Kipling can't code to save his life. Horizon has fully custom HENMs. I hate Aerec too but I'm not going to defend other shitty pserver staff. The only pserver that would be worth restarting on fresh would be if it was solely ran by Frank.
>>2078205>Fully custom HENMs that are less than half of what was promised, drop shitty loot, and everyone hates while there hasn't been a real content update in the 3 year history of the serverYeah so anyway, like I said, Aerec can't do shit and this is why the server isn't getting TOAU any time soon unless/until LSB and Phoenix people hand it to them on a silver platter.
>>2078367I'm sure Horizon is just waiting for that AI code that definitely hasn't been filling LSB with bugs!
>>2078374I'm already playing TOAU. Enjoy your pedo server!
>>2078381Absolutely insane levels of cope. You will never be a woman except the Horizon version is "you will never be in TOAU".
>>2078367>>2078373you niggas are WAYYY to parasocial with these server devs.i play where everyone else is. if i can login and have fun? im happy.t. FFXI newcomer. never played retail.>>2076779this sounds like a load of barnacles.if horizon lives. im playing
>>2078422Project moar. >>2078430Just play where you want. Ignore the staff morale posting because of some drama nobody cares about.
>>2078438Just play where you want anon... except if it's on the wrong server that I hate... REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2078441I play on Eden. Keep your pserver drama on reddit.
>>2078430>you niggas are WAYYY to parasocial with these server devs.you gotta realize these guys have been playing on private servers together for like 10 years (and they carry that 10 years of baggage onto each new server).
>>2078443And yet, here you are, spamming about Pserver drama. Curious.
>>2078457I told someone to play on whatever server they want.
>>2078462Uh oh horizon/aerec cock sucker melty
>>2058757this is mentally ill millennial erasure
>>2077319oh no! my free game run by volunteers didn't release new content! oh no!
>>2078715.t Aerec
>>2078715Free to play, not free from criticism.
>>2073322no one's looking for dual boxing. rerelease eden without dualboxing and i'll join just for ballista
>>2078718your "criticism" is just whining that you aren't being given more free shit fasterthe entire game exists playably on retail.i don't like horizon staff but the bitching and moaning is somehow even more irritating than their high school tier gossip-posting
>>2078167Aerec isn't there to ruin it
>>2078731Hey Aerec protip: Stop posting here and work on your server
>>2078731>I don’t like horizon stuff but >proceeds to shamelessly suck horizon cock You won’t get any brownie points here. Go suck up on the horizon discord for that faggot
>>2078751Hi Kipling. Enjoy your shit server.
its fucking crazy how shit xi private server development isis toau even fully finished on any server? lmao its been like 20 years... retail wont be around forever and then once its gone development really will get hard
>>2078205You must be thinking of Ophelia because Critical was around for almost a year after Horizon launch.
>>2078954I meant Setsuko. All women are the same.
>>2078958We got an incel meltie on our hands
>>2078958Calling Ophelia a woman is just lol... just barely.
>>2078961Meds time.
>put items up at 1g each>sells instantly>save on taxes>probably saved 1m on taxes in the last 3 yearsAnyone else have gil making/saving tips?
>>2079068undercutting is good for the economy and encourages distributors to provide a better service than what pirates can do for cheap
>>2079107Taxes are theft and the less gil sinks the better.
>>2079113Don't let anyone tell you this, but there's a black market where you can just trade items for gil between players manually and completely bypass the taxes on the the Auction House.Taxes were invented by the Tarus to oppress the other races
>>2079118Where do I find this black market?????
>everyone who disagrees with me is somebody i hate!this thread is retarded
>>2079189>this thread is retardedThis game attracts these kinds of people. Elitists and bads in equal numbers.
>>2078148i dont obsess over Aerec like everyone else does here, but is he even around on Horizon lately? He said during the last dev update he had been having a lot of "personal stuff happening in the background" and thanked the other devs for all their work.Odds he gives server ownership to someone else and abandons the project altogether?
>>2079159You can just ask, police don't even exist in this world. You are paying taxes by your own free will. It is in your genetic code to be a slave for the economy. Break your chains.
>>2079210I must seize the means of production. Join me comrade.
>>2079205It will never happen. Horizon is his baby. He'll just continue to be the owner while Beasty does 90% of the work.
>>2079205It isn't "everyone" it's mostly Whinersolstice.
you guys need to stop schizoposting
>>2078997qrd?
>>2078430niggas are way too parasocial with devs and private server figures
>>2077338Would Kipling really keep the bad apples and drama queens away from Phoenix server? If so i'd like to see that blacklist and dream.
>>2078731bootlicker>>2078751It's not Aerec. Just one of the chronic 4channers and drama seekers of Hxi
>>2079345Manual checks at the door. Photo IDs, retina scans, and tits with a timestamp. >Sorry "Sabrina" I mean Gary, no troons allowed.
>>2078123I want the answer to be single box only no trusts BUT make the adventuring fellow earring usable. Make it roughly as viable as kupipi is and give it a 3 minute cooldown. That way people can solo easily if they need to. Make it unusable in exp parties.
>>2078123Horizon DEFINITELY damaged the overall interest in ffxi. 2k on average are what's left but think about the 2-4k that lost interest.Phoenix and Zenith are currently competing to collect the remainder of people that are tired of Horizon's shit.
>>2079500I want to play on whichever one isn't the containment server for Horizon's toxic manlet community.
>>2079504What servers are even up?The list here is totally outdated and some of the servers and their websites are 404'd
>>2078123Uh bro, phoenix discord has more people in it than zenith, you know that right? or do you not know how to count?
>>2079541afaik there are 3 populated servers, eden has about 200 people on it, catseye has 300-600 people on it, horizon has over 1000 people on it
>>2074307We have decided on a tentative starting date for this Friday. We will be rolling in San d'Oria on the Horizon server. No starting time as of yet and no party Job makeup as of yet. Play what you want.
>>2079601SIX MONKS
>>2079601good luck to the newbies, don't let elitist metawhores ruin the game for you. there are a million ways to play the game. it's a lot more fun and challenging if you play how you want to instead of playing what's "best" but know that the brainlets who hate thinking WILL have melties at you
>>2079353i come here once every few months. i barely play the game anymore, and i play on multiple servers. it's pathetic, imagine having so little going on in your life that you call me a bootlicker for saying "stop whining that you aren't given more free stuff faster". that's actually a normal, healthy, adult outlook. seek therapy
>>2079601White mage x6 party. 6 hammers and 6 banishes.
>zenith announced 9 months ago>phoenix announced 3 months ago>horizon posting rebase updates every daybanned players btfo
>>2079669>Horizon losing players every dayThat's why. Slave labor coders working 24/7/365 for no pay
>>2079293Tranny
>>2079593Discord numbers don’t mean shit.
>>2079677cope
>>2079658Ok now take a break bitch and go back to "having fun", the adults will continue talking.
>>2079765>>2079677the same exact people are on both of these discords and horizon. And probably 4 other pserver discords as well. The same exact people will probably play both servers and stay on the less pozzed one.
>>2079658See you in 3 months faggot, though you are probably lying and one of the horizon cuck devs who come here everyday to try to play damage control for your shit server.
>>2079773>the manchildren will continue bitchingFTFY
>>2079783>Horizon shill calling people man children
>>2079671>>2079779Does Kipling get paid to shill Phoenix and get back at Setsuk0 for exposing him? Horizon rebase has twitch streamer money, what does Phoenix have other than trannies and paedos?
>>2079778holy cope
>>2079669>horizon posting rebase updates every daynigga it's been TWO YEARS
>>2079811Nothing, you can tell >>2079779 comment of>you are probably lying and one of the horizon cuck devs who come here everyday to try to play damage control for your shit server.is actually all the "staff" who moved to Phoenix. Hi Winter you autistic fuck.
>>2079658LMFAO mad.
>>2079658> Barely Plays> Plays on Multiple Servers> Obessed on 4 Chan pxi dramabootlicking sis got offended. Mad n Melty Meds time.
>>2079819Nah that's just the way it's always been. I've been on everything since before Topaz and DSP. Either or both of these servers could be the flavor of the month and then have 40 people total active next month. The only reason Horizon was successful is the amount of streamer dick Aeric was deep throating.
>>2079811Kipling's lawyer money. And Whinersolstice melties for entertainment.
>>2079967Ninja had literally 0 to do with Horizon's success, holy cope lmaooo. that's how we know you didn't play on private servers. stop the larp
Wow this board really is filled with horizon shills LOL
>>2079830Say it with me:TwoMoreWeeks
>>2079811Does Aerec get paid to shill Horizon and get back at Kipling for exposing him? Horizon rebase has twitch streamer money, what does Phoenix have other than all of the developers that left because of Aerecs stupidity and faggotry
>>2079811Post the unredacted conversation
>>2079674big if true, groomer ass dwagons and kanna pedo shit
>>2080118retards should stop lying about Horizon then, they're making an already bad server look better by being so schizo about it.Just wait for Phoenix in the mean time
>>2080238The people who used to shill Horizon here had a falling out with Aeric and are now shilling for Phoenix because they're team pedo. Can't escape it besides the few times they get banned based jannies thank you
No I always said horizon was shit
>>2080325Remember when you'd get called Setsuko and 20 replies saying how awesome Horizon was? Odd how that doesn't happen anymore and it's now Phoenix posting instead.
>>2080334I never got called setsuko so no
>>2080335Shut the fuck up Setsuko.
>>2080336No u
NEW FFXI AI SERVER. FRESH OFF THE PRESSES
>>2080471LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
>>2080325>Spends too much time on 4chan>>2080334>spends too much time on 4chanThese are the cancerous retards killing pxi>>2080118>True
>>2080471isn't this just catseye but without the custom content
>>2079674horizon needs more zoomer tgirl pussy. too many weird biogirls in their 40s.
>>2080558Its 75 cap
Anyone have a copy of spicyryans guides?
>>2080471holy based it's just some random guy who 8 months ago said he needed help spinning up his own WoTG and I assume he either got smart or got help but shit this needs a launcher cos it sounds great
>>2080680RebornXiPhoenix ZenithWHICH ONE DO I CHOOSE NOW?! So many new options
>>2080756Rebase? More like Reborn. Only fresh out right now let's go anon.
>>2080471>betarelease when? i don't wanna have to level up twice on the same damn server.
>>2080664so it's just catseye but without the custom content
>>2080854Perfect!
>>2080854Nobody wants to play in your dogshit “75” mode catseyegger
>>2080854i never played on catseye but i've heard a lot of people bitch about the owner. wouldn't catseye without him be a good thing?
>>2058233What is the real link to the phoenix online website
>>2079773this is one of the funniest replies i've gotten here thanks. i will have fun lmao
>>2081048Me? I'm straight
>>2080919why are you so angry?I don't even play there anymore but it's 75cap for every mode, even the default one
>>2081048weird having fun as a retard but you do you sis
>>2081037https://phoenix-xi.com/home
>>2081087>weird having funyeah, that seems to be the general mindset of this thread l m a oimagine having fun playing a video game? couldn't be me. i'm here to rehash my personal dramas with susan, that BITCH
>>2080471you know what? I'm in
>>2081059and I'm a vegan!
>>2080471No RoV but yes trust magic?
>>2081228You aren't fooling anyone here Aerec
>>2081297Shut the fuck up Kipling.
>>2081297>>2081319you guys should just fucking kiss and make up, but do not make a private server together.
Is there an addon or something that will let me rebind my keyboard buttons, or accept modified keyboard inputs? On the windows level, I've got Caps Lock rebound to shift+tab, but when I go into ffxi it reverts back to being Caps Lock. I'm also trying to find a way to get my keyboards extra macro keys and my mouse keys to work in the game.
>>2081573alternatively, is there a way to bind an arbitrary key to an arbitrary ctrl/alt Macro? For example, My macro 1 1 is set to cast cure on a target, wait 3 seconds, then cast protect on myself, then /echo "cocks," or something stupid. Is there a way to get, say, the windows key to activate my macro 1 1?All the documentation on Windower and Ashita have keybinds only able to be remapped to in-game hotkeys, so only /ma "cure" or stuff like /jump or /paste or /ta <a10> are available, and you can't activate a ctrl/alt macro from the dialogue so you can't rebind anything to activate macro 1 1 or anything like that normally.
>>2081649as far as i know, there isn't an in-game way to do this. you may have to do some kind of scripting to get it to work.
>>2081767darn.
>>2081649you'd have to actually make the macro in a document then execute it with the console. I don't think there's a way to trigger a macro
Playing ffxi for the first time, are there any trap jobs that actually suck on endgame? I'm having a hard time focusing on just one.
>>2082999Ranger - Linkshells like to setup groups with buffs that cater to melee jobs not ranged dps. You'll get put in group 3 or alliance 2.
>>2082999It doesn't really matter but chances are you'll be expected to have multiple jobs up at endgame anyway unless you're a mage or support. It'd also just be easier to go for one of the jobs that are gods of endgame if you really care about it.
>>2082999on retail everything is viable. the question is "what is it viable for?" and SE has put restrictions in place on certain bosses that make them resistant to AFAC spam or black magic damage.There are some bosses you can kill with a few max damage double magic bursts on black mage and some that take 4 jizzed out summoners, a drop cor, a geomancer, and a rune fencer to AFAC spammusome bosses like slashing damage, some like piercing damage, some even like blunt damage. then there's private servers and none of that shit matters, just play what you like. 75 era is EZ
>>2082999What >>2083143 said. Play what you like.
>>2082999having multiple jobs is very useful in this game, so that's not necessarily a bad thing, at least getting things to subjob level.
>>2083176yeah there's like 50 people willing to be the white mage, or the bard, or the corsair, the most in demand job is the tank unless your linkshell has some guy who just magically shows up to everything. Sometimes the hardest thing to find is -good- DDs, black mages, corsairs, and bards which in the 75 era aren't hard to build up.
>>2082989darn
I feel like there are certain jobs that are just completely worthless as a subjob. Like why the fuck would anyone subjob monk, or ranger. What do those jobs even have to offer as a subjob? All the pet jobs seem completely useless since your pet gets the level of your subjob, so good luck with your level 49 carbuncle or automaton in level 99 content. And then Bard, Corsair, and Geomancer seem like decent choices, but their buff potencies get halved and you can only use one song/roll/bubble so it's barely even worth it.Does anyone here have a reason for why any of these jobs can actually be usable? Perhaps some super niche situation?I know PUP/MNK actually works because Monk gives kick attacks and quicker access to Martial Arts, but that's kinda it. Chi Blast scales off MND, I wonder if WHM/MNK could actually work./SMN has, what, auto-refresh? Shining Ruby? I guess Garuda can give your whole party Blink which sounds pretty cool actually, but you still gotta take a whole 10 seconds to summon it first./PUP can have RDM puppet cast protect and haste on you and a WHM puppet can heal a little? At that point you might as well just use /RDM subjob instead, so you don't have to worry about your puppet dying and you can freely cast haste and cure on whoever you want. /BST has, I dunno, Killer Skills? 8% chance to intimidate any monster is kind of alright maybe? I don't think you're doing a whole lot with your pets./BRD, /COR, and /GEO all have buffs, so they're not completely worthless, just kinda not worth itBut Ranger's got nothing. What can Ranger even give? Whoopdiedoo, I can Scavenge all those 0 arrows I just used. Oh you gotta watch out for all those bow-build Samurai that are just aching to not use Hasso Zanshin Katana for some reason. I guess Corsair can use Barrage? Is that Ranger's one use? ONLY with Corsair's gun?
>>2083540COR isn't going to give up dual wield for barrage under any situation. /rng is pretty useless except for maybe better wide scan, idk i've never gone that far. WHM almost always subs SCH, nothing else is even worth it unless you're kitted for melee.
>>2083618what does WHM do on 75 era? Don't have SCH there, so i'd assume either RDM or BLM sub
>>2083632He was talking about retail, and on retail SCH is the go-to for WHM. WHM is situational at 75, and most of them sub BLM for conserve MP. RDM is also optional, fast cast is nice
>>2083763You can play WHM/PUP with the white mage automaton and have the authentic XIV Scholar Fairy experience
>>2084564You’re retarded>>2083632Depends on level. If we’re talking pre -sch 75 era then blm till 50 and switch to /smn for auto-refresh which will stack with regular refresh and equipment refresh unless you need any of BLMs spells for whatever reason (like escape, tractor or sleep). If its a server with sch tho then theres literally no reason to sub anything else, it buffs all your skill levels by 10 and gives you sublimation and penury.
>>2083618Why exactly do you want dual wield? The stat increase from two weapons? Cause that seems pretty minor
>>2085093Conserve MP ends up being better, the value for CMP1 is 25 and then if you have magnetic earring that's another 5.
>>2085130id like to hear the answer to this too.. what stat increase are they referring to? and do they plan to actually autoattack? as cor/nin?
>>2085130You'll use some combination of Rostam, Tauret, and Naegling in most situations. If you are just doing physical ws /war or /drg are the strongest sub but most cors sub dancer for all of the utility it offers.
>>2078123>>2079483>>2079500this just reminded me that Horizon still doesn't have Fellows even though that was promised to be soon at LAUNCH
IMO the way to handle trusts is to just make them 1 summon per character.So you can either solo with a trust as a Player + Trust duo or shitter party with 3 people + 3 trusts.Alternatively - just make what the signal pearl's current cooldown/rules are in current retail apply to Adventuring Fellows
>>2082999>Playing ffxi for the first time, are there any trap jobs that actually suck on endgame?If you're playing on Horizon (Or any other 75 cap server that is established) - avoid tank or melee DD.1. Melee DD is largely useless in a decent chunk of fights because of the TP system, so you aren't desirable for the content 2. Everyone and their mom already has a melee DD leveled and geared better than you will be as a fresh 75 so they have even less incentive to consider you3. Every LS already has tanks that are turbo geared up the ass and won't want you since as a fresh 75 you can't do shit as tank BRD, BLM and healers are always wanted though.
>>2085615it's just weird because Eden and Wings both had fellows years ago, and they were fully functioning.
>>2085615Hard to make the content you promised people when you're too busy calling them losers for asking where it is
>>2085637Because Eden isn’t open source and while Wings code was, it uses a different codebase than Horizon so it’s not compatible unless someone converts it. And even if Eden was open source, someone would still need to convert the code.
New thread: >>2085793
>>2085677I'd much rather have toau than fucking adventuring fellows.
>>2085185Debatable. You should also consider that refresh is consistent and constant. You also get more useful utility with /smn. BLM utility is more useful for raising or escaping a dungeon.
>>2083540>ranger>he doesn't know of the secret SAM/RNG build
