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New Beginnings Edition

>Season 10: Season of Infernal Chaos
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24226702/rally-against-hell-in-season-of-infernal-chaos

>Patch Notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24222917/diablo-iv-patch-notes

>Roadmap
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24189529/the-age-of-hatred-persists-diablo-iv-2025-roadmap

>Resources for builds:
https://maxroll.gg/d4
https://d4builds.gg
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4
https://diablo4.gg/

>Miscellaneous (event countdown, leaderboards etc.):
https://helltides.com/

>Trade:
https://diablo.trade/

>Codex:
https://diablo4.cc/

Previous thread: >>>/vg/2016065
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>>2078143
My bad for using /vg/ to link to the previous thread. Force of habit I guess. Anyway here it is:
>>2016065
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Finally some good fucking pic for the OP, the previous one was horrible.
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>>2078389
today OP is based
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prerendered sprites (d1,d2) look vastly superior to modern 3d graphics (d2r, d3, d4 characters/items) don't @ me you tasteless shill
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Funny how they used to think a skill tree could be well... an actual tree.. Let's hope those reworks they mentioned won't be just some superficial stuff.
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I know that PTR for S11 is done and gone but I seriously hope they won't nerf the gameplay i.e. skills and affixes where it's a slog to progress.
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>>2078143
Based OP. thanks for baking quality thread.
>>2078911
>skills and affixes
The complaints were loud enough that they won't nerf those. PTR was there for a reason. But we'll see really what they concocted this time around.
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>>2078838
>skill tree
>a tree
>It's like poetry, it rhymes.
Bravo. No, but I'm glad devs came to their senses when it came to that particular design and changed it. But it has to be overhauled desu. Something's wrong with the current one or missing in there, I just can't put my finger on it.
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OP, I saw what you did with the OP, and I have some suggestions.

Instead of an OP image about the actual game, perhaps you could use an anime girl from Blue Archive
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>>2078653
If they are pre-rendered, then who's rendering them now
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>>2078838
THIS is a skill tree.
Nah nah bro you just don't get it there are so many options for builds here like +5 strength that's huge but you have to google map it first to find it
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Just learned that yoshida from final fantasy XIV was meant to start work on Diablo V. How would he have changed the series for the better?
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>>2079198
I've never played ffxiv but based on my vague knowledge of the series and the man but I can almost certainly say females would look like females at least. Druids for instance wouldn't look like walking wardrobes either. I can't speak about the gameplay, but visual changes result in more appealing designs I imagine.
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>>2079442
>walking wardrobes
lmao
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How do you upgrade gear in this game? Am I correct in thinking that once you hit max level better gear doesn't drop like in Diablo 2, you just need to save up materials to craft the gear you have to a higher quality?

What a load of shit if so. I actually had a lot of fun levelling until I hit max level. I learned one of the echo fights which was super fun until I killed it and it said I couldnt have any drops as I didn't have some random key to open the chest. WTF
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>>2079584
As you level up you just pick up whatever boosts your stats up until you start finding gear that's targeted at your build. Afterwards, and that's the endgame, your only upgrade path is through masterworking and tempering where you need materials. You can get those as you go along too - helltides, NMD, infernal hordes, you name it.

The two devs did recently say they will "take a closer look" at crafting and they want us to be able to build up an item from very early on in the game all the way into the endgame. If they can achieve that, that'd be very cool.
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>>2079174
the aliens that control the time-space continuum obviously
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>>2079442
>females would look like females at least
This. And at this point why didn't they make sorcerers hunchbacks, preferably with a limp and a lazy eye. What a dark and gritty realism that would've been right?
Also
>Druids for instance wouldn't look like walking wardrobes either
The D2 design was fine. I understand the need to differentiate it a bit, but making them sumo DEI wrestlers was not just on the nose but a slap to the face.
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Man, that TGA can't come soon enough. Blizz will probably release some crummy teaser or whatever but we need more news on whats ahead.
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>TGA
>2 minute live action trailer
>it’s some demons overrunning and town and everyone dying
>Mad World playing
>”The age of haters, is nigh”
>Diablo IV: The Age of H8rs
>everyone claps
>jeff keely: that was Diablo four age of Sparta what an amazing trailer look forward to more to come later on in the show
>go to YouTube
>You won’t BELIVE these Top 10 reasons Age of H8red will be….
>go to /d4g/
>last reply 7 hours 34 minutes ago
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>>2081530
Well, at least there would be a reply, but I meant to say that they're retarded NDAs successfully kill any meaningful conversation with community. Not that those recent 'interviews' were very restrained. To put it lightly.

Still, we're at a point now were a trailer could maybe trigger *some* information flow. Doubtful, but you never know.
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>>2081542
>NDA

Players don’t want to play developer. They just want cool things shown and to watch YouTube essays.

Their approach is admirable, I’m guessing they were taking a book from PoE2’s streams, but it doesn’t work, for either game.

The game trailers belong to Wuthering Waves.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qUqxxqrIRMw
They’re concise, show the new weapons, show the story, characters, extras, music, done. 8 minutes. Even less sometimes.

That’s all you need. All these developer interviews are not needed because they establish less faith in the game subconsciously by questioning mechanics.
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>>2081551
>Players don’t want to play developer. They just want cool things shown and to watch YouTube essays.
I concur. I'd rather they kept their format to a minimum but pull out maximum amount of content
>Their approach is admirable, I’m guessing they were taking a book from PoE2’s streams, but it doesn’t work, for either game.
This is somewhat true. However with PoE guys they were reasonably open in front of their player base and didn't shy away from interacting with them. For better or worse. Again, it's just better to give it to us straight rather than beating around the bush.
As for the trailer this is a info delivery vehicle which would perfectly suit the presentation. No nonsense all they through. What TGA trailer (if there is one) should show is the class and something extra I suppose. But with blizzcon on the horizon next year I have my reservations....

And if the devs actually browse the threads on occasion they will definitely see that talking for 2 hours about skeletons not attacking you or being unable to open the dorrs vs the butcher doesn't inspire a lot of hype. Even less so when they couldn't even back that up with any clips to show differences.
What I'm getting at is: two words are enough for the wise, but essays are not enough for the foolish.
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>>2080994
>You don't get it. Druids are beautiful creatures! We need to represent the gravitationally challenged!
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>>2081542
>meaningful
>community
>we
>plebbitspacing
go back already, you colossal faggot
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>>2082669
My dear anon-kun, reddit spacing goes like this:

do you notice the difference
between the two now?

Don't worry you didn't catch on, it happens. Rest assured you can put spacing between different trains of thought in your posts.

Have a great day!
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Why didn't we get any wind of Diablo or Baal? Even a passing reference from main characters would be nice. Weird when bloodied wolf is making strides in Sanctuary ain't it? The way they go about with the story is really odd, I mean how much will the stuff happening in-seasons will affect the next expansion?
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>>2082810
>Why didn't we get any wind of Diablo or Baal?
wingless bat is busy as devs said it themselves and one-eyed owl seems to be memory-holed for some reason. They will be saving them for other expansions so no one bothered to include any reference to other two prime evils.

What is interesting is that blizzard seem to be aiming for two expansions per a Prime Evil. They must be betting on that horse to last long real hard if this is the plan. That is, if we get to axe Mephisto in the upcoming exp.
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>>2082810
>how much will the stuff happening in-seasons will affect the next expansion?
Well, we're getting /ourboi/ Hadriel in two weeks so this could be building towards High Heavens beginning to interfere with the mortal realm once again. I'd say finally because I can't stomach the world being only about demons and being so absolutely depressing...
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>>2082844
They already used a whole expansion just to say that meph merely exists. It feels like d4 has one of those Hollywood contracts like nu Star Trek where the new shows can use the names of things, but can't use the the actual original designs. They have to be "legally distinct" but similar. Like they don't actually own the property. It's weird.
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>>2082792
have some fake internet gold, retarded stranger!

we should have some meaningful conversation about your posts not respecting my time!

and whatever other braindead spectacular ideas that you specifically have for enhancing your diablo gameplay experience to tailor fit you but in language that indicates it would benefit everyone else too!

happy cock day!
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>>2082669
Can 2018 faggots shut the fuck up about reddit spacing?

You don’t know how to format posts. You don’t even put a new line at the end of your Professor Farnsworth text.

We get it nigga you joined the site after the 2016 election good fucking job.
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>>2081559
>talking for 2 hours about skeletons not attacking you

It’s the most interesting upcoming change, but you just can’t get it across in interviews. You have to see it in action.
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I just want Gigi Murin from Hololive to talk about Diablo the same way she does league of legends…
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>>2083156
>It's weird.
It's because, for some reason, they DO treat the story as some odd multi-parter show. But damn, this isn't how they're supposed to go about it. One Prime Evil, one expansion. Maybe give Diablo two, since well... he *is* Diablo. Otherwise they are dragging their feet.

Plus it's not like anything substantial is happening across seasons. I have my doubts those will amount to something in the long run. Maybe it's just me, because I don't like the fact that plot is too stretched out (and far too bleak for my taste).

They should definitely do a season in which they focus on the story, but of course tie it to a mechanic, because most players don't care about the former. Two birds with one stone.
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>>2083490
Yeah, it is interesting, but as I said - it would've helped a lot if they had something on hand that showed how much skeletons' behavior will differ. Personally I love the technicalities and behind the scenes sneak peeks, however visual aid sometimes says more than a dev could.
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What's up with that large chunk of blank map in Nahantu? It's not big enough for an expansion but it would do for a season or something like that.
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>>2083608
damn I forgot the pic
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whats the point of adding ssf? the game never really had an active trading community let alone tools for proper trading like poe. there is also nothing to compete at since no one gives a fuck about world first paragon 300 or whatever.
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>>2084444
It's to please, may High Heavens forgive me for uttering this word, streamers. I see no other reason for it other than appeasing those dopamine chasing fiends. Regular players may get a kick out of playing SSF, but like you said - trading is non-existent in d4 and any competitiveness has less value here than it did in D3. They should focus on encouraging trading if ssf is to be a thing. Also, checked.
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>>2084450
what streamers? most of the "big" d4 streamers like raxx, woodlandjoe, darth and even that german beavis guy fucked over to poe 1/2 once they realized d4 isnt going anywhere with their current team.
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>>2084454
I was referring to streamers at large. I mean why would the dev team add SSF to begin with? It's not like players/community were asking for it. I think they looked at PoE, saw that it's making strides among "content creators" and probably decided that this is the easiest thing to implement that resembles their biggest competitor. The "big names" you mention are definitely going to play it and quickly fuck off whence they came from.

The problem is devs don't realize (or refuse to do so) that adding SSF won't change anything because the foundations of the game don't justify this mode. I'm not talking about fabled endgame content, but things like itemization, upgrade and crafting systems. That kind of things. It's a half baked idea the way I see it that's good in the long run but it's released at a weird time.

The Tower suffers the same fate, they add in an unfinished concept to pad out content (not a bad idea all things considered) hoping it'll attract more people. They'll sprinkle leaderboards on top and shoo away anyone asking for rewards from said mechanic. The problem they have is that they don't necessarily design these activities with "fun" in mind. This mindset has to be the cornerstone of anything devs do going forward.
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>>2084809
braindead takes.
d3 had SSF and leaderboard, so it isn't unusual for them to add it into d4
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>>2084454
Streamers were a mistake, they are a blight on games, especially arpgs.
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>>2085693
>d3 had SSF and leaderboard
yea and it only took them 2 years to add them in. one of which is in beta. probably because they panicked and couldn't come up with anything creative, just look at armory. d4 is using the same code as d3 and retards couldn't even add QoL features from the last game on launch.
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>Compass to Carnage
>Sanctuary ignites with increased Infernal Compasses, increased Chaos Waves in the Infernal Hordes, and more. During Compass to Carnage, gaining an audience with the Fell Council has become easier than ever, as drop rates for Infernal Compasses are increased.
Isn't that great? On the last stretch of the season they throw this. They'd do better if it was at the beginning or right after 1st week. Not that it'd matter but still
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>>2086442
I just want to read the final patch notes for the new season already
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>>2085693
d3 didn't have ssf until like 3 years ago
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>>2085924
>couldn't even add QoL features from the last game on launch.
This. My biggest gripe with d4 is that all the shit that was put into its predecessor was/is completely lost on devs. Sure, we have the armory, soon (beta) leaderboards. That's cool, but where are player profiles, stats and achievements to brag about, to look up builds etc. Some could say it's not necessary or it'd be a waste of time to make it. But ffs it WAS in their game that's based as anon >>2085924 pointed out, on the same code. And it's not like they have limited resources either. They think they know better... and they're wrong. Little things add up.
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Anons saying this for the expansion reveal

>>>/v/727134259
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>>2088915
Curious. I mean it screams Diablo all the way through but it could be anything. Then again I'd be surprised if blizz went the extra mile to invest in props for an announcement.
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I mean it kinda looks like something that you could connect with diablo
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>>2089068
Yeah, it gives off strong d4 vibes. But who knows.
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So im playing this for the first time since it went on sale and trying a barbarian bleed build since I want to mainly use 2h swords
This seems kinda shit though, the only skill that proc the bleed damage is on a 10 sec cooldown. I kinda figured there'd be more ways to proc bleed. Should I bite the bullet and use 2h hammers instead?
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>>2090711
Barb's been getting short end of the stick for the last couple of seasons. Look up HoTA or maybe some 2H basic attacks build. He can do some damage. He just won't be as proficient at it as other classes. Also:
>where the fuck is my spin2win whirlwind build
it's like devs hate fun
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Are they really going to tell the story now in the form of comic books? Come on, most people barely follow the plot in the campaign much less pick up something to read (even a comic).
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>>2089068
>>2089564
It’s God of War sorry lads and ladies
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>>2090711
Barbarian bleed can't crit or OP (same with thorns). Used to be really great many seasons ago for really murderous bleed, but now bleed doesn't do as much damage as other build types. In addition to that, season 10 is a weak season for barb (next season may possibly be better, still waiting on patch notes).
Just play druid this season if you want to do big damage. Sorry, anon.
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>>2091573
This is going to be pic related situation all over again. Stupid decision to tell the story via other media.
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>>2091584
>source: trust me bro
Because of the serpent or the bear?
Otherwise it's anyone's guess.
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Im not really understanding how Legendary weapons fit into progression
I was having a tough time around level 20 and I was thinking of switching my difficulty from hard to normal, but then I got a legendary weapon that just doubled the damage of one of my skills and suddenly everything started dying instantly
Do I have to eventually disassemble this weapon and start applying its effect to every single new weapon I find? Can I even do that?
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this is the worst arpg ive ever played besides torchlight infinite which is somehow even worse
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>>2092635
Yeah once you have outgrown it when you level up, just salvage it, and it will rip the legendary aspect off for you to reapply to whatever you want (in that category: defensive, offensive, etc) infinitely in the future.
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>>2092653
kek
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>>2092653
But you have played it :^)
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This game needs more angelic/high heavens themes to offset all the demonic shit. And no Inarius doesn't count, cuck is dead. At least we're getting Hadriel, that's a start.
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Based Beavis bringing some news:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQgjcmNO0Xk

You gotta love the dude for being such an incorrigible optimist. They could use some of that in d4.
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If you had a black girlfriend that played Diablo, you’d call her “Diab-boo”
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If you played Diablo with a zoomer, it’d be “Dab”lo
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>>2093758
well i guess you could call him a "diabloomer"
someone make this meme, i'm too lazy
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>>2092653
I get dumbfounded when people say this because it’s objectively the best IsoArpg ever made and all the others are 7/10 games at best.
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>>2092335
Because of the Crocodile and the Eye.
The eye is the eye of Ra, and the crocodile is one of the gods of Egypt, along with Anubis (dog thing) and Horus (eagle thing).

It’s a stupid statue because hordes of demons always means Doom or Diablo, but whatever. If new God of War became more of a 3D Characyer action again, happy days.
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>>2091573
>comics

Legitimately the worst form of media. Blizzard should make this like this a 0.5 expansion that leads into the next one. They’ve got the money and production value.

No ones going to read this, and there’ll be plot points in Expansion of Post-Hatred that people just never pick up on. Halo did this same nonsense for years.
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>>2079180
Filler attribute nodes are handy for fulfilling gear/skill requirements and easy to block out when build planning. As a player, they're just roads you take to get to the actually meaningful shit, and there are plenty of meaningful options in POE's tree. Moreover, they're a useful tool for the devs to keep builds within certain limitations by making some options more expensive than others. A search function is a must though. But please keep arguing in bad faith.
Of course, it could be done another, more simple way that I'm sure many would appreciate, myself potentially included. In any case, I'll take a tree like that over D4's joke of a skill tree any day.
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>>2093957
Linear, simple design is stronger than Exile’s tree. The only reason Exile’s has traction online is because gamers have ego issues with difficulty in games. You don’t need an argument when you can laugh at the stupid people.

PoE2’s skill tree isn’t a skill tree anyway, it’s an attribute tree.
Alongside that, whenever a tree becomes too large, you lose the aspect of experimentation and on the fly build swapping because, again, RPG design tropes online dictate that being locked in is good design choice because it “makes your choices static/hard”, even though the concept is at odds with game design as a whole (how can you plan around what you don’t know).

D4 is the ONLY game I have ever played where it is interesting to change skills at any time and change entire builds based on Legendary Aspects, even though the game design doesn’t facilitate it (e.g. a snow area where fire damage is necessary to progress.), and that because of the simplicity of the tree.
Everything is visible and discernible from early levels.

So not one RPG of any kind has made me want to respec and try new builds mid-way through the game, apart from D4.
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>>2094160
As a new player to both games I'll say that I enjoyed crafting a build myself in PoE2 more than in D4. Although I havent gotten far in endgame D4 yet.
In fact most of my D4 playthough I wasn't able to have any say in my build at all, I only got legendary drops that facilitated a specific playstyle so I was forced into that even though I wanted to try other ones.
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>>2094237
Genuine question, between getting drops that aren’t applicable to your class, skill gems essentially being a linear upgrade tree, the attribute tree not offering up much in the way of actual play style changes and combat centralised around singular skills to deal with mobs instead of putting distance between yourself and enemies given the roll exists now

Where exactly are the build options in Path of Exile? Anyone can answer this
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>>2094237
Sure while leveling, you might get a sick unique that influences your play style, but there are plenty of unlockable aspects via NMDs to play whatever you want until you get the gg item for your build.
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>>2094356
But in terms of game design, you want the restriction. You want players to be intrigued through a new legendary spec and respec their skills and setup around it.

Build diversity doesn’t exist. RPG players have this fucking lucid dream where they think like they’re mapping out entire universal geometric patterns all at one once in their minds eye to builds in a game.

The reality is the systems are still stuck in Wizardry 1, and people think “builds” are adding +5 to STR to meet a weapon requirement and use thunderbolt. That’s a “build” to most.
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>>2094278
Im no expert in arpgs but I liked that the poe2 tree let me specialize in specific types of damage and that there were many paths to specific nodes I needed for my build. I'm someone that likes to go all in on one aspect of my character in these games and being able to find the path that maximizes a single damage type appeals to me. There was also an interesting trade-off in poe2 endgame where I had to start choosing survivability over pure damage in my builds and retooling pathways I already went into.
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>>2093922
Here you go. Graphic design is my passion.
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>>2095134
kek
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>stream is at 11am pst
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=a4KRDEFSfAk

I still don’t know what the fuck people are talking about with poe2 builds it makes me upset.
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>>2096650
>finish work right before the stream starts
>feelsgood.jpg
Do they release patch notes before or after the stream ends?
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>>2096650
Who are they going to put up against the proverbial wall this time?
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>>2095134
Made me chuckle. Based.
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>>2096925
I will never play poe2. This nigga talks about "rewarding skill tree if you put in the time to understand it", oh heck no. Not interested in grinding an overly complicated game for hours or end for the sake of being able to comprehend what should be a basic concept/skill tree.
I get that the gripe that weapons in D4 are stat sticks: yeah you are wielding an axe in your hand but churning out tornadoes and earthquakes, doesn't really make sense how that would work mechanically. But whatever.
2 more hours until the dev livestream.......
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>>2097027
Here they are:

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244466/diablo-iv-patch-notes
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>season starts two days later
grim
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Ask of these goons for a mediocre game.
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>>2097780
lol weird thing to focus on nerfing, but ok
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>>2097856
kek
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>>2097856
It's there to say "hey look! we nerfed something!". Probably...
Otherwise it's retarded.
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>>2097832
It'd be funny if one of the guys in the back row would fall down
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>feedback
>feedback
>feedback
Can't they just come up with stuff on their own?
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>tower delayed
lmao
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What's this man going on about? Can't he just say they need to work on the tower a bit more? We don't really need a long winded speech a'la Fidel Castro.
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People finish the season in a week. Towers aren't going to bring anyone can.
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>Have SSF in diablo 3
>Diablo 4 functionally uses the same code as D3
>"We need to figure out how to bring SSF over to D4. It's not a 1 to 1 conversion"
Sorry but how difficult it can be to turn off getting items from people and giving it away?
Good lord, who are these people?
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sorry, what are we supposed to do on 11th December?
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state of this game
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>>2097971
I'm sure they'll make an entirely separate realm for SSF, because otherwise how could they cordon off the stashes to prohibit someone from RMT on a normal character and then pick it up on the SSF character using the same stashbox, etc. SSF will be the only leaderboard that actually means anything tho. The top of the normal leaderboards will be RMTers and dupers, guaranteed. So sure let the beta test go on while they figure out how to implement SSF.
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I don't care, I'm excited about new season.
The new seasonal progression is different, and in that way refreshing. The capstone things will be fun to do this season at least. It's supposed to take longer now, so let's see it.
The only thing to do now is decide on which class to play in Season 11...
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>>2098122
i'm excited for it too. my life has been absolutely shit these last few months and it'll be nice to have something to do to take my mind off of everything
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>>2098122
I also tentatively excited for the new season. We'll see if the pace of the game changes significantly through those changes, but I gotta say it sounds at least interesting. The only thing I somewhat feel iffy about is having toughness instead of armor, but it's not a dealbreaker.
Also, diabloomer memes got some traction I see. Nice, Rob is a fun dude. Bless him.
>>2098174
Finger crossed for you my man. It sure looks like something that can help clear one's head. If only by some margin, it's something though.
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>>2098122
Beautiful creation Anon. I hope you don't mind my own humble rendition of your work.

I'm also positively tuned for this upcoming season.
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>>2098122
it's all feely bullshit about "pushing into harder difficulty" while leveling, yet the campaign remains the fastest #1 way to level with zero difficulty increase.
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>>2098390
Here's the original one of the new version as well. If you want, you can expand you collection, I suppose.
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>>2097832
Thank god there’s no Thomas the Troon engines on these panels. I’m 90% sure they’re on the WoW ones.
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>>2098429
>Thomas the Troon engines
oooh...oof...ohhhh....buddy...the beige sweater. at least they put a man equally as big as "her" this time. It is ALL Adam's Apple havers on that stage.
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>>2098429
>no troons
Bro, what about the boyo dressing up as a girl up there? Front row, second one from the left.
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>>2098390
Ahahah much better than my sloppily thrown-together one. Thank youuuu!
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>>2098416
leveling doing other stuff/non-campaign goes pretty quickly, idk what you're on about. it only takes a few hours the first day of the season, and then you're done. alts can get plvl ez.
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>>2098570
The seasonal progression, it is all feely bullshit. Feels as in, feeling, how it feels, arbitrary, a contrived opinion, personal feelings, vibes. The truest, meta, fastest way to level, remains trivial, 1-shottable mobs, easy bosses, no difficulty, which is what they are touting, the DIFFICULTY, of pushing EARLY, into CAPSTONES....all can be bypassed by playing the meta way, the capstones don't scale, you can overlevel and blast them faster than trying to progress through it with a campaign skip, and it will be easier. I don't know how to spell it out anymore, but the changes they made are basically voluntary engagement, or for people who incorrectly think skipping the campaign is faster.
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>>2098577
You know... there are actually people who don't care about beating their own personal time record of leveling. They don't care to play through the campaign again, and they do whatever they want, and yet they STILL get to lvl 60 just fine. Your own personal preference of leveling is not the ONLY way to get to lvl 60.
Also, used to be that spamming Dopamine Tunnels and Champion's Demise on repeat was the fastest way to lvl up. Things change.
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>>2098438
>>2098443
AYO HOL UP THAS A FUCKING MAN
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I’m going to be honest: I don’t keep up with any ongoing games.

I try to watch streams and read dev notes and watch YouTube videos, but the truth is I play one game for 30 minutes every night and have no idea what any of this seasonal stuff means.

I can’t even understand d4s battle pass. You get dubloons (somehow) and then you can trade 11 of them for a horse (kinda steep eh?). Where that horse goes I don’t know.

Anyway the alarm is going off back to work.
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>>2098812
there's cosmetics menu button when you open your character sheet, or you can go to one of the stable symbols in town on your minimap and change horse skins there. also the same menu you do transmog and summon a pet that loots for you.
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>>2098812
You just get exp or maybe it's kills to get more coins, then you gotta spend coins in each tier to unlock the next reward tier, (buy stuff, unlock more stuff to buy).
At max level in t4 you can basically cap out in like an hour of hell tides
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>>2094410
Who actually wants to change their whole build around a drop though? Maybe in like a shooter, since they're all just guns.
But if I want to whirl wind, I don't want to Hota or earthquake. I like whirlwinding; it is a completely different damage profile and gameplay mechanic.
Plus a lot ways designers want you to use different builds to react to drops is shitty, like what if you didn't get a build defining unique or one that's shitty?
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>>2098923
The idea is that the aspect will be good enough to warrant changing your skills around it.

Of course because it’s an RPG and we’re working around stats and numbers, all sorts of game design can be invalidated.
I’ve ran into players halfway through D4’s campaign complain the game is too easy because they spent 10 hours grinding.
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>>2098649
>used to be that spamming Dopamine Tunnels and Champion's Demise on repeat was the fastest way to lvl up
grim times
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>>2097832
So, I hate to be that guy but I wonder how long the troon has been in charge of game design. It's no wonder this game has been so fucking lame.
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>>2098971
Their credentials are 12 years of making an unpopular tabletop card game called Iveon, and he made a few questlines in Destiny 2, Hawkmoon, the revamped Christmas event. Published three papers, one of which is basically about killing video game systems.
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>>2098984
Destiny 2 is absolute ass. If anyone thinks this game is bad or Black Ops 7 is bad go play Destiny 2 for 6 hours.
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Why do all aprgs devolve into shooting 50 lightning bolts across the screen for the endgame
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Alright as a new player Im kind of baffled by how ass balancing is in a game thats been getting nonstop balancing for years
Im playing the spirit born class and I wanted to focus on jaguar skills because they looked cool, although I didnt get a legendary effect that supported them until I was level 50.
So once I do get a legendary effect improving the rake skill I change up my build to focus on jaguar skills and it is so much worse than the quill volley build I had been playing until then. Not to mention the quill volley build is braindead easy to use

Im not trying to use some obscure build strategy, I just want to use the 1/4 of my characters skills thats are red, but spamming feathers is so so much better that I'd be an idiot not to do it
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>season 11 starts right when the game awards end
it's going f2p huh
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>>2098985
I played a few hours of destiny 2 as a complete noob. I had no clue what the fuck was going on. Shot at some shit and got lost. That game is royally fucked.
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some people think they're shadowdropping the pally.
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We're all going to look back ten years from now and have a good smile if some kid whispered in our ears "d4 bad"

Only our game had such a legacy, be proud anons.
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https://x.com/thatsleviathan/status/1996312363939901708?s=46&t=zLxjAXbBcnhdJCtMuuM2-g
hmm
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>>2098985
i played it myself at launch, but i did see videos of their new player onboarding experience being a barrage of pop-ups and ads to purchase the expansion
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>>2098995
Just play Rogue or Necromancer. Every ARPG has the same problems with melee classes.
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>>2099061
I have a conspiracy that Tencent (owner of Path of Exile) is involved with astroturfing YouTube and forums to get rid of Diablo and other games.

My evidence is witnessing the absolute crazy shit that used to happen with Chinese gacha games online and just how many online topics/contentions were stirred up by third parties Tencent and friends hire. Chinese are fucking crazy when it comes to this shit, devs and publishers included.
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>season of Bovine Intervention

What they mean
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>>2099076
>season starts as soon as trailer shows and awards end

How is this meant to do anything for new players? *grabs head in pain* Unless… no, it’s nothing. Forget about it. Let’s go.
>Anon-kun…~
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>>2098934
I just think it's bad design and not interesting. I cannot think of any game where it's good (maybe for shooters)
It would be like if a barbarian picked up a wand and shoots fireballs now.
People pick the guy with a giant axe for a reason, to do axe shit (or whatever their idea of barbarian is)
The game designers' job is to make those different parts of being an ax guy interesting, not to say "nuh uh what you wanted was a wand now"
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>>2098995
Yeah for some reason every other season one of the basic skills for certain classes is retarded overtuned
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Reading through this patch notes, really good on those system changes. Tempering, potions, A+ stuff.

Those monster AI changes though, I feel like no one’s going to have any idea of what really has changed since it’s a live game, you won’t be able to go back and compare live data. The probably should have made a new enemy type alongside the Lesser Evil bosses to get the point across better, as the current enemies will be tuned differently instead of having a gimmick where the visually flank you or something.
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>go to the arpg cinema
>diablo season 11 is showing
>the woman in the row in front of me starts readjusting her testicles
>cry for divine intervention
>take the path to exile myself from the cinema
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>>2099424
>mfw there's a troon soon to be fired from its job
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poe2 devs are streaming right now and its such a stark contrast from Diablo 4 devs. They have such a deep understanding of their own game. Watching Blizzard is like watching a bunch of amateurs pretending.
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>>2100560
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>>2101632
We’ve been through this before, dev talks suck no matter the game. I’ll listen to a Japanese person talk about the game they’re working on because they humble, but westerners can’t do dev couch talks.

The reason is because they’re trying to “Joss Whedon” their speech. It’s a video game and that’s for nerds but if we pretend like we only half care then it’s cool.

When I finally move to Japan and get a Japanese wife and start my job at Nintendo, then you’ll understand.
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>>2101837
>Japanese Diablo stream starts
>HAI MINASAN KONBANWA HAI DOMO DES
>everyone clapping
>Japanese woman bows
>YOROSHIKU ONEGAISIMASSSSSS
>claps
>SATE- DIAABOORU FORU
>heeeeeeeee
>sugoi
>unn
>demon gets slaughtered on screen
>”eh kawaii”
>demon gets killed
>”eh sugoi”
>demon dies
>”eh kowaii”
>there’s a guy there who voices Diablo
>he brings out a bowl of Diablo ramen to try
>”umaii” (TL note: “ong this tastes so fucking good”)
>HAI SANK U FOR WATCHING ZA STREEM
>lilith acrylics spinning over the end stream
>know less about the game than when the stream started
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>season 11 coming out
is this the last season before the next expansion? I could of sworn sin of the horadim was suppose to be the last season before the expansion.
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>>2102168
Just one more season bro just one more
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>>2102168
yes and no, you are confusing sins with infernal but infernal was suppose to be the last season before the expansion.
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>>2101938
yeah i'd watch that, this is legit
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>>2102264
Earnable pet
Earnable pet
Earnable pet
Earnable pet

They think this is something people care about enough to put it in the roadmap? Half the time I barely see it on the screen picking the shit up.
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>>2101938
This would be better than watching some xanaxed out devs spew a bunch of nonsense when its clear they don't even understand their own game.
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I personally care about my furry little critter. They should do a nice touch where they let your pet get all bloody up in the loading screen.
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Fortnite stole pets from Diablo
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is anyone gonna play the new d3 season for a week or so? i haven't in years, but i'm thinking about logging in
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So next Friday night season starts after game award ends. Something huge gonna be announced (next xpack?

And in the evening new poe 2 starts
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>>2102662
By my calculations, because the game is releasing in China and Chinese don’t pay for games (f2p is too big there), they’ll be announcing the expansion and that D4 is now free to play.

Of course, only established players will care about a new season releasing at that time, so to bring in new players, they’ll frame it with a new class from D2 that’ll be playable as soon as the season starts to bring in the nostalgia.
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>>2102527
nah i'm done with d3, but the unrestricted kanai's cube is always fun to play around with, so it's a good season for nostalgia anyway
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>>2102677
This is what I've been thinking too. People and Reddit and Xwitter are delusional thinking it's a Paladin shadow drop.
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>>2103541
>People and Reddit and Xwitter
*on
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I dont want to be a hater but adding a new character (paladin) and some kind of new activity as part of the helltide, pit, league mechanic, dungeon rotation is not really cutting it especially as some kind of 40$ expansion. The kiwis over at ggg are doing that semi regularly every 2-4 months for free.its been 2 1/2 years now and the game still lacks proper endgame. I gave the game every chance, played almost every league since release and if anything I had most fun at launch and the game keeps getting worse.
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taissa owes me sex
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>>2101837
No it's because bliz has such a wide development team they are all in their little pet projects and that's all they care or know about. Some times it is literally just in game pets or cosmetics or some other trash no one cares about but the devs do. That's why bliz devstreams are filled with shit that is completely out of touch with what players actually engage with
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>>2104277
I’m telling /pol/
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>>2104452
Well, they did try to do that with people "who know what they want" after d4 launch. Problem is much like those guys in pic related the current ones have very little drive to go forward beyond their paycheck. It kind of shows with lack of any concrete plans or a hint at such (see those crummy yt interviews).

With that said I wouldn't put too much stock in GGG either. They've been juggling two games (one clearly drawing more manpower) and the supposed sequel has been getting nothing but a short end of the stick. And it won't change in the forseeable future despite their claims about launching the sequel next year. I know, I know. Recent announcement about druid class etc. But the point still stands consider the bigger picture.
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>>2101632
I’ll give GGG points here, having just two people talking two the viewer directly is better.
All these games that do these dev streams and the whole fucking gang is there. Destiny does this too, the community manager is there and the janitor is there and the junior UI designer is there.

Nothing more than two people. No one wants to see the office dynamics between a group of coworkers for a game.
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>>2102677
>they’ll frame it with a new class from D2 that’ll be playable as soon as the season starts to bring in the nostalgia.
lies, we will get penitent knights.
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>>2103953
>d4 has seasons, not leagues
>game is significantly better since launch, this isn't even debatable
you are are PoE player and just dumping in this thread
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Im playing the original campaign and only at the very end am I realizing that Prava is just black and bald and not a full body burn victim like I thought the whole game.
I dont want to be racist but I think the design I made up in my head was way cooler.
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>>2104855
>I dont want to be racist
I do, she's a filthy sheboon that only exist as a DEI inclusion.
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>>2104545
love penitent knight poster
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>>2102677
It doesn’t have to be a new class, but it has to be something appealing to get new players in from a marketing perspective.

It could even be something as simple as a third person camera option. Imagine how many people that would bring in looking for souls slop.
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>>2104662
I dont get your "argument" here. What the fuck does it matter where I come from. I probably put more time into d2,d3 and d4 than 99.99% of the diablo "enjoyers". All I want is a good product. You dont have to be a cock sucker for that multi-billion dollar cooperation. People like you probably spend the least amount of time in these games and all you are trying to achieve here is trying to block all kind of negative critique. Thats literally what the diablo reddits do. Negative feedback is not welcome thats why the game isnt going anywhere in terms of quality.
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>almost 6 mere days

wut do
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>>2105426
ahahaha PoE tard-- you angry you got called out? nobody wants to read complaints. what, do you think blizz is going to listen to you and make changes based on your singular opinion?
the absolute state of this general in the past couple months
>>2099134
this definitely happens, but i think they already leeched their main haul of diablo players.
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>>2105485
I don't think I have it in me for another season, unless we get a new class like the other anon suggested I may skip the season and just wait for the expansion next year.
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>>2106585
>unless we get a new class like the other anon suggested
It would be so weird (but not unwelcome) if they did that. A class out of nowhere? For everybody to use for free? Too good to be true. Still, I'll give the season a shot. If nothing else, it'll be different.

Speaking of free and good. There's a leak for chinese version of D4 where you can buy content from all the seasons so far plus 30 popular skins for $69 or get it at a premium for $125.
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AYO EVERYONE

NEW RYKER VIDEO ON THE TUBE IS UP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VXvU8exi0c
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>>2107133
>chinamen can buy shit that's no longer available to the westworld
fuck, I know it's slop but I'd buy 2nd and 3rd seasons transmogs and shit. I skipped those two but the pixels look pretty cool.
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>>2107133
Based on our resident yt "content" creator here >>2107134 I'm cautiously suspecting they could do a class drop as this early unlock if you preorder the expansion that would be announced at TGA. Maybe they realize at blizz how screwed they are, with balancing, lack of QoL, content etc. and that they need to do something as I mentioned. At least, the mystery is kinda fun to crack.
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>>2107175
How will Blizzard screw it up? Anything other than paladin would feel like an it's so over that they couldn't come back from, but I also think they're too godless to add a holy class. I was so hyped for the potential this game had but it's becoming D3 without the crusader.
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I'm hyped up I'm feeling it I can feel it in my body
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>>2107133
they have to do something, its a surprise season that they didn't announce, its the Chinese release, and its coming out on TGA.
if not a new class then they have to do something else.
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>Paladin willl release s11
>but it’s only unlock when you pre-order the expansion

Oh no
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>>2107418
I would smash that pre-order button so hard. It's criminal that paladin is not in this game.
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>>2107418
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>A notable demographic observation is that 40% of players who downloaded Diablo® IV on Steam primarily speak Chinese, surpassing English-speaking players, who make up 28% of the player base
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>>2107133
Hey gweilo how did you find this leak
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>>2107134
I hope you kill yourself. Don't shill your videos here nigger you are the worst diablo content creator. Take your fake voice and fuck off.
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we don't be mean to rhykker here
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Fuck yourself sideways with a gun.
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>>2107587
>fake voice
huh? he sounds normal to me.
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>>2107587
The guy has 700 thousand subs why would he put links in a thread with 10 boomers just because the Diablo devs lurk here for game design advice
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hey folks this is rhykker
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>>2107133
>Ultimate Surprise: brand new content
Mega copium but I really hope this is the new class. There's nothing else they could add that could qualify as such.
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>>2107242
>>2107866
Also, if that's not enough they included a flail as part of the new reliquary cosmetic unlock. And this is coming from the official source. It sure as shit doesn't look like a mount trophy and there's been no weapon in-the game so far that would make us of such transmogrification.

It's probably going to be either:
>buy the paladin as a separate class (like they did with necro in d3)
or
>pre-purchase the expansion, get pally AND some fancy stuff on top of the new class (or sth like that)
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>>2107970
Interesting. I'd add that patch notes did mention buff to shields so something's definitely going on. I dunno if it's going to be early paladin shadowdropping or maybe slightly later, but a lot of pieces fall together. I'm in the fingers crossed camp too.
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>>2107970
penitent knight, penitent knight, penitent knight, penitent knight, penitent knight, penitent knight.
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>>2109831
Why would it have to be a knight pentient and not a paladin/crusader, though? The latter two are much cooler than a brooding knight a'la Batman. I mean we've got a barbarian class just like in Diablo 2 and 3 so I can't imagine why it couldn't just be one of those two. Personally I'd rather we had a full-fledged holy class in this depressing world which we are bound to traverse.
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>>2109895
>Why would it have to be a knight pentient and not a paladin/crusader, though?
because their cool
>I can't imagine why it couldn't just be one of those two.
for the same reason we got a spiritborn and not a monk.
>Personally I'd rather we had a full-fledged holy class in this depressing world
I'll rather have a thematically appropriate class that is directly tide to the story.
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>>2110005
Fine by me, though I guess we'd agree monk isn't as iconic as paladin or barb. The reason why I'm leaning towards a holy class is because the story should take a turn (even a small one) in the direction of light. If VoH was, and I can't believe I'm making this reference, Empire Strikes Back (as in even darker turn in the story considering Akarat's body possession by Meph) then next expansion should veer towards that "redemption" and light side, so to speak. I just think a crusader or paladin would suit it better thematically. And the rumors had it that they've been sitting on that class possibly since launch.

It'd be hilarious if you think about it. Releasing a holy class that, if designed well, would be some form of "salvation" for blizz and give them just a teeny tiny bit of good will and time to release expansion later on (it's a whole different discussion on quality of said dlc).

I'm not being combative here btw, just putting thoughts to proverbial paper.
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>>2110042
>though I guess we'd agree monk isn't as iconic as paladin or barb.
agreed
>The reason why I'm leaning towards a holy class is because the story should take a turn (even a small one) in the direction of light.
VoH was a nothing burger story, literally it was about nothing till the very end cutsence when mephisto turn into the anti-Christ so I doubt the next expansion will have much meat to it, at this pace we will fight diablo in expansion #8 so it literally doesn't matter in what order we get the classes because the pace of the story is so fucked.
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>>2110005
>their
>tide
based retard
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>>2110181
>till the very end cutsence when mephisto turn into the anti-Christ

Was this cutscene made by literal Satanists or something
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>>2110327
yes
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satanists aren't real
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>>2110345
I’m literally (figuratively) fighting (spinning around) Satan’s forces right now in a video game called “El Diablo” (what Latinas call “Satan”)
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we love latinas here
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>>2110358
ok shadow.
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>>2110327
hard to say, but their fixation on the occult without something to balance it out is very weird to say the least. I mean I get it's a diablo game so this shit goes hand in hand with the setting, but whoever's in charge of writing either needs to take narrative classes or get fired. age of hatred my ass.
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How cum we don’t get as many posts as the /poe/ general
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>>2107970
I want to believe but paladin especially would be too big of a selling point for them to shadow drop. I look at it as the break glass in case of emergency, and there's no doubt D4 is there or at least fast approaching emergency, but I think this is something they would hype to no end.
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>>2110608
In 2 and 3 there were classes that used the occult/demonic powers but there were holy classes to offset them. D4 feels so off to me because they've gone out of their way to NOT have holy classes in the game. Also until season 11, nearly every season theme has been some form of occult/witchcraft, demonic powers, or corruption that we use rather than fight against.
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>>2111230
they'll probably hype it to no end on TGA with a title card saying "available now" for extra flair.
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>>2111447
That’s because what’s the new general called? That’s right, new title /d4g/.

And who are the people here? That’s right, men of god.

And men of god do… that’s right, “divine intervention”

And who’s in season 11? Correct, the angel.

What does 1 and 1 mean? 11? The number of god, 1111.

When you put all these together? December 11th, the Holy Warrior of God.

And what will the expansion be about?
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>>2111870
>12/12 release
>The number 1212 as a "God number" signifies spiritual awakening, alignment with divine will, and new beginnings, urging faith, balance, and positive thinking to manifest desires, rooted in biblical symbolism of completion (12 tribes, 12 apostles) and divine protection, often appearing as an angel number to prompt action on your spiritual journey

Damn bro you can’t make this stuff up
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>>2110641
because unlike those no life /poe/ cucks we have a life, we only cum when we want to, we cum when there's a new season, we don't cum 24/7 like them.
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>schizo thread
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give me the quick rundown on the new season or whatever as a day 3 owner of D4 who has less than 12 hours in the game, who has never played the camapaign yet, don't have any DLC and won't be buying it, and am now using a GTX 970 because my other graphics card died?
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>>2112069
the new season is not even out yet and we know jack shit about it.
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>>2111944
You ever notice how Poe2 and D4 are releasing their update in the same day
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>>2112069
Have you tried watching Rhyykers lore video series
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>>2112069
just play through the campaign over the next 3 days and jump into the season
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>>2112081
oh I thought it was literally coming out like, today/tomorrow and you guys probably knew all about it

>>2112126
Yeah I gotta play the campaign, I only got up to like level 40 or something on a Sorc during one of thte previous seasons just doing whatever in the seasonal.

I don't really understand what seasonal vs. eternal is, seasonal makes eternal feel irrelevant. I don't like that my necro girl that I use in the campaign is going to be some eternal relegated irrelevant character. Like every character is just disposable after 3 months.
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>>2111870
>>2111884
Thank you, brother. I'm embarrassed by my lack of faith.
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>>2112135
>oh I thought it was literally coming out like, today/tomorrow
we only know what came out on the trailer, however, the season it's coming out as soon as TGA ends so they will most likely reveal something big then.
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>>2112135
eternal is irrelevant. these types of games are meant to be played each new season where everyone starts from level 1 and you play from a week to a month until you're bored, and then you put it on the shelf until next season.

it was originally supposed to start tomorrow, but it's been delayed a couple of days because of an expansion announcement at the game awards. people are speculating the reason as one of the following from least interesting to best:

1. game is dropping in china, so servers are going live at the same time
2. game is going free to play along with the chinese release (not including expansion content)
3. game is going to shadow drop the long-awaited paladin (or other holy warrior) class with an expansion preorder. this would be based, but my faith in nublizz is low
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>>2112164
>game is going free to play along with the chinese release (not including expansion content)
so 1. I can finally stop using battle.net and just use steam for my blizzard games 2. I wasted my 100 dollar gift card buying it at all

also I'm a fucking poor NEET so expansion shit doesn't excite me I can't afford it
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>>2112126
3 days? It’s taken me 5 months
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>>2112200
maybe, we don't know yet
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What if they just Shadow Dropped the expansion and season 11 was like a prelude quest to it
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Write the Game Awards expansion trailer in greentext
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>be me
>diehard Diablo chad since '98
>played every game on hardcore, ladder god
>Diablo 4 Vessel of Hatred was kino, but seasons getting stale
>rumors everywhere about TGA expansion reveal
>”Paladin shadow drop confirmed" >"Mephisto comeback arc" "free VoH upgrade"
>copium levels over 9000
>Dec 12th, glued to stream with Mountain Dew and Cheetos
>Geoff Keighley hyping "world premiere"
>lights dim, demonic choir starts
>screen cracks open like hell portal
>TRAILER DROPS
>epic cinematics: you vs Prime Evils, infinite loot rain, new zones bigger than Sanctuary
>”Vessel of Hatred 2: Electric Boogaloo"
>Paladin class tease: holy hammer smashes Andariel into paste
>release 2026, preorder NOW for exclusive Geoff pet
>chat explodes, I'm screaming
>”YOOOOO BLIZZARD W"
>heart racing, f5 battle.net to buy Ultimate Edition
>loading screen... "One moment please"
>server queues: 69,420
>in, create Paladin Chadimus Maximus
first dungeon: one-shot everything, loot spraying like confetti
feelsgoodman.jpg
suddenly RIP animation
"Your character has died"
wtf offline mode?
check stream again
Geoff: "And that's Diablo Immortal: Reign of Hatred! Available NOW on mobile!"
mfw it was bait
Blizzard twitter: "PC expansion coming soon™"
uninstall life
back to Path of Exile

hey the AI’s pretty good at this
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It’s Paladin with angel wings. It’ll have two modes, paladin and holy knight. Auras now work to transform you instead of offering buffs. In different forms you wield different weapons.

The game awards statue is multiple reveals, not just one game. The second hint from Keighly about the statue is about Diablo, the first hint (the statue coordinates) were a god of war hint.

>The heavens are silent. Sanctuary bleeds. New evils stir

The Diablo reveal in the statue is the door to Diablo. That’s the reveal for the expansion.

Don’t ask for any more details.
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>Damn Lilith you still fine as fuck tho
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>>2112373
sheeeeiiiiit
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>>2110641
already did everything, nothing to discuss
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Does anyone else feel the story is really emotional in 4?
I thought it was meant to be cool demon hunting but it’s really emotional and grounded with the mom and the son and the guy in the Iron Maiden Gundam.
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>>2112164
Going f2p would be such a slap in the face
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>>2112210
>China release epic presentation
>explaining every detail
>Yes, we back to China
>everything is better in chinese version
>but wait
>40 sec. teaser shows paladin (maybe)
>Stay tuned
>Full xpack reveal @blizzcon !!
>60$ preorder live now to gain angel pet
>Did we mentioned China?
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>tfw should be getting ready to login and level
reeeeeeeeee
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>>2112588
>Does anyone else feel the story is really emotional in 4?
I'd call it bland and uninspired. It's a game about killing demons and the campaign is supposed to some weird character study. You can really feel how the story is mandated and checks all the boxes (stronk women, irresponsible and pitiful men etc.). It's a campaign so you could let it slide. Say what you want about the last two games but they sure as shit didn't try to sell you over-dramatized family-driven problems of a non-character, the little asian chick that took off with meph's soulstone.

Btw, without looking it up can you name one "iconic" character from d4? I can only name lyndon and lorath. And that's because they were in d3 (and lorath does stand out more due to his VA)?
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>>2112206
Probably not the expansion but a class (please be Paladin) wouldn't be completely unheard of. Especially if they could charge people $20-30. It *is* nu-blizz after all.
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>>2113751
the class should be monk and the female monk should be hot
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>>2113920
spiritborn is the monk.
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>>2113928
spiritborn looks like SHIT
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Is d4 good now, I havent played it since literally the first month the base game came out.
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>>2114063
It’s good when you treat it like a single player rpg and not some spastic online live service grind, as like all games in the genre.
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>>2113702
I thought the campaign was good, much better than expected for an arpg. The expansion however was awful, literally nothing happened.
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>>2113702
I wouldn’t say any of the characters are iconic because there’s no levity in the story.
Lorath is good because of the 10/10 VA.

The core story isn’t super interesting, but I think I get what they were going for, to mimic d2’s trek of following in the footsteps and wake of Lord Voldemort.
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I wish they made a sprite remaster for D2 I hate the way these games look in 3d. Oh well I'm never playing them again bye
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>>2113702
>Btw, without looking it up can you name one "iconic" character from d4?
Lilith, duh.
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>>2114306
see ya tomrorow bud
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Can’t wait for the Diablo Four remaster
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>>2114321
Uh, why can I hear titjob music?
…she’s right behind me isn’t she
*Lilith throws you on the bed*
*your balls hit the bedpost and your eyes cross*
Crowd: OOOOOOOOOooooooo
>d4 pet puts paws over its eyes and whines
>Thats gonna hurt tomorrow
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what are you guys gonna roll on thursday, if the pally isn't dropped?
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>>2114400
Probably going to come on here and try to get (You)s.
It’ll be like:
>d4bros it’s over…
Post a picture of Druid from Poe2, that’s should at least generated 3 (You)s.
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I swear to fucking god every time I try out Exile 2 again some absolute fucking nonsense game design pops up.

I keep trying to give it another shot because everyone screams from the rooftops how good the game is and how Diablo and Epoch are dead and every time there’s some fucking nonsense boss or mini game trial or enemies overwhelming you.

These faggots better not talk shit about any other ARPG again. Fucking dumbass game always doing some stupid shit every other hour.

WHO MADE ACT 2
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>>2114306
>>2114387
Speaking of remasters, Diablo 1 30th anniversary approaching and it;s literally only game that isnt remastered..
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Some new leads on potential Pally release:

https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/news/diablo-4-paladin-tease-game-awards-2025/
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>>2114900
I'm daring to hope, now I'll be disappointed if there's no paladin. Would they really drop it with the season though, wouldn't they want to hold it as a selling point for the next expansion?
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>>2114937
>I'm daring to hope
Same here.
>Would they really drop it with the season though, wouldn't they want to hold it as a selling point for the next expansion?
Well, exile 2 releases druid with its new season. And with D4 in shambles right now there's really nothing else they could do to compete with it. Imagine the blow they would deal to GGG by releasing a paladin. Everybody and their grandma will flock to D4 to play the class. Not to mention the exorbitant amounts of money they'd rake by making the class tied to expansion preorder or something.
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>>2114952
True, if they tied it to the expansion preorder it would make sense. The necro being sold separately in D3 never sat well with me, but this would be a more fair way to handle it. It looks all but certain from reading the Icy veins article and the Wowhead paladin page that went up. It would pull D4 out of the nosedive for sure.
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>wowhead pulled down their paladin page
i want to believe
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>>2115243
Yeah, the situation is really getting tense. They better fucking deliver because God knows a paladin class will be an ultra boon for the game.
I saved the wowhead sub page for pally btw, pic related
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>>2115252
legend, thank you
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>>2115255
Don't mention it my man.
>>2114900
Also, one more thing from Icy Veins that was taken from S11 developer update/preview in this tweet: https://x.com/Diablo/status/1998456971935052227

We get the info that the pet is available for 7 classes and the shop has an expansion icon next to it up in the tab description.
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>diablo 4 class designer
>his response to someone under this tweet
https://x.com/ThatsLeviathan/status/1996312363939901708
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>>2115252
The hero we deserve
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>>2115267
the barb icon twice? possibly a placeholder?
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>>2115298
A placeholder. For sure. The icon next "shop" is also a big tell this isn't a fake. Why would there be one to begin with?
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>>2115302
I would have liked to have seen the new icon to reassure me that the class is finished and releasing before the next expansion, but yeah I have no doubt the expansion will be announced tomorrow. That Wowhead page looks almost complete too with the exception of the unique class mechanic. Hopefully it's done, will unironically save the game.
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PalaGODS, finally... we are going home...
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I can’t envision how Paladin would even play in D4.

D3 (Crusader) and D2 have real static gameplay, you basically just walk up to things and smack them, and the crowd control skills are based on that aspect.

Do auras even fit into D4? Maybe there’s a clever gimmick they could fit into.
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>>2115801
Fist of the heavens and zeal (which was pretty much Roland set with sweep in D3) work in D2 and D3 will work in D4. It's pretty much becoming D3.
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>>2115729
Yes.
>>2115801
Prehaps he'll be the class with "reworked"/new skill tree so the passive skills will be applied differently this time around? We'll have to see. On top of that, I believe those claims that said blizz had him since day one and he is their "get out of jail for free card". I mean this game is in dire need of a holy class to lay waste to demonic hordes and introduce more light side, so to speak. Also, wasn't there a season (8,9?) where they let us use a blessed hammer as extra skill? They have everything ready, everything so far was just laving crumbs around.
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>>2115841
Class mechanic might be something to do with auras since we have a hard cap on the number of skills we can have on the bar, and it would be kind of lame to have what are essentially passive abilities taking up space
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i enjoy diablo 4
i keep it off my youtube algorithm because those people hate diablo 4
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if no paladin, i'm torn between barb and necro. i should play barb i think. barb and pooid are my least favorite classes
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>>2116069
meant to say least played but that works too
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>>2116042
It’s an objectively good game. I don’t understand any of the criticism towards it, which makes me feel insane.

Maybe all games are like this. Maybe if you play Call of Duty or FIFA, people are going to hyper focus on multiplayer maps and Ronaldo’s feet, the only critique being in the moment fancies.

I understand critiques on helltides and endgame progression, but I genuinely can’t understand any of the other problems people have, like combat.
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>>2116042
>engaging with youtube algorithm at all
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in bed rn but tomorrow i will be playing!
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>>2116042
Post a Diablo 4 YouTube video
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D2 patch 2.9

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24250349/22-nights-of-terror-holiday-event
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>>2116524
whats a terror zone. is it like helltide or something? or is it just like, high level zones like ancient tunnels or whatever
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>>2116273
It's coming out too late for me to play tonight, I'll need to be going to bed! I might need a play by play because the game awards are too cringe for me to watch.
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>>2116536
once you complete a difficulty in that difficulty a random zone every hour becomes terrorized scaling it to your level or was it a few levels above your level? TLDR its an alternate farm/exp option added to D2
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>>2116780
on german beavis stream rn kek
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>>2117362
Kek, guess I'll have to endure the cringe.
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>>2117362
Why is HL3 announcement cropped out?
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Damn what the fuck I didn't realize the season started so late today.
I'll be playing pathfinder 2e when it releases this is bullshit
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>>2117682
Me? I'll be playing the paladin tonight, the newest class in Diablo 4.
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>>2117744
Enjoy my friend, I will join you in playing Paladin tomorrow if it really does release tonight. If not, maybe a Barbarian.
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>>2117744
I'm in euroland so I'll wait until tomorrow to begin my eternal crusade against hellish fiends. Hold the line for me!
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any news today bros
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>>2118203
Another regarding D4 has leaked yet that I've seen, which is weird since there seem to be a lot of other leaked stuff from the show.
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the fuck? the season starts in 8ish hours? why the fuck are they starting it at a weird ass different time?
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>>2118594
The date change is due to annoucement(s) they will be making at TGA so that people can start off their seasonal gameplay right after the show ends. Also there's a very high possibility bordering with certainty that we're getting a palading class release with this season (you know heavenly themes etc.) only it'll be tied to expansion preorder or as with d3's necro you'll buy the class seperately.

Look for more info here >>2114900 and here>>2115276

Some major clues right there.
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New expansion's is going to be called Lord of Hatred. Now, they better announce that Paladin later on today.
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>>2119001
Here's a webm source and a higher res vid for reference:
https://streamable.com/1r4bg5
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>>2119015
>fortelling that Diablo 4 will die with this expansion
KEK
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What time is the Diablo announcement?
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>>2119262
Between now and midnight
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Is this the diablo
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>>2119268
Wew lad this cringe, not sure I can last that long.
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holy fuck when are they going to reveal the new expansion, tired of watching this shit.
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>>2119376
The new expansion was leaked but its not showing up at TGA
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>>2119376
you will sit through the humiliation ritual
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>>2119382
so I been watching this garbage for nothing? why the fuck is the new season dropping around the same time then?
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>>2119376
imagine if it's the last announcement kek "new season starts... NOW!!!"
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>>2119387
Pretty good crank right?
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>>2119388
>>2119390
No way they'd do this
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>>2119394
They will 100% do this.
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Here we go bros
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HERE IT IS!
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>it's up
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YOU GOT YOUR PALADIN, FAGGOTS

*monkey's paw curls*

THE PALADIN IS BLACK
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PALADIN TODAY
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FUCK YES WE ARE BACK
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>>2119416
>THE PALADIN IS BLACK
And all interest is lost
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>no shadow drop this season
well at least pally is confirm.
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>>2119382
>>2119387
new expansion announced for april
paladin is literally out TODAY
quit believing leaks retards
(paladin is black lmao)
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>>2119416
>>2119419
you know you can customize your character right?
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>>2119422
Not the Paladin
You are forced to be bl*ck
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>the believers were right
holy fuck that's based :)
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Wait can they just release a new class without making us pay for an expansion?
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>>2119427
I'm sure we have to buy the expac to get it
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Plan trusters vindicated and palachads feasting
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>>2119431
but he said play the paladin class NOW
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>>2119421
pal is not fucking out today, its gonna come out with the expansion in april.
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>>2119433
>Preorder and unlock the paladin today!
Or something like that I am sure.
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>>2119436
>>2119438
Paladin soon
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>>2119436
based retard
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>>2119440
I'm sure it was negotiated that it didn't launch until after the show was finished. Keighley is not missing his viewer counts.
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>>2119436
Tard-kun they literally said Paladin is playable today
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>>2119444
when and where.
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>>2119436
>t. Piece of Excrement 2 doomer
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Expansion will have another class besides Paladin
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>>2119445
Geoff Keighley said it first thing after the reveal at TGA. Paladin available TODAY
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>>2119452
>went back and check
>he really did say it
well I stand corrected, you were right, I was too busy posting here to notice.
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>>2119454
>pre purchase
yeah they got me good
fuck you blizz
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>>2119454
fuck, guess I'll try pally on april
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>>2119457
Like you weren't going to buy it anyway.
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will be judging people playing other classes tonight
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>>2119464
yeah when it goes on sale for $15 like VoH
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Do poorfags really
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it's time to get the gang back together /d4g/ when?
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i hope the girl pally is cure and not a landwhale
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>>2119500
*cute
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>>2119500
girl pally better not be a landwhale wtf
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30 mins bros
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battlenet update is live! let's goooooo
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kek i expected nothing less
(yeah i'm getting it)
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fuck i hope i can play for a bit tonight but my internet sucks ass and i won't be home for an hour
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>>2119532
>90 fucking bucks
wut?
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>>2119537
>>2119532
$40 for reg expansion
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>>2119544
but i'm so used to buying the deluxe edition preorders already... would be weird to not get the extra wings or whatever...
apparently if you go in-game, you can purchase it there in the tier you want
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nobody else pointed this out!
preorder and get 2 extra character slots and an extra stash tab (even for the cheapest option of preorder) WORTH
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ma'amadin, fuckin wide motherfucker
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they almost got me. i almost fell for the hype and spent 40 bucks on paladin they day before a poe 2 league start. thank god they fucked up the launch or I wouldn't have had the time to think about how stupid of a purchase this is.
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>>2119575
They are selling stash tabs and character slots? Are they really not free?
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>>2119593
KWAB you don't have voh huh
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>>2119604
nah the preorders just aren't working in battlenet at all....
c'mon blizzard, you had one job to do! roll this out smoothly!
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>>2119627
oh that's lame! i checked datmodz's stream and his store straight up won't load
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>>2119630
well the errors just now look different than the error messages from a half hour ago, so maybe some progress is being made on fixing it... somehow...
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>>2119633
my xbox is still updating -_-
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Fix your fucking shit blizz let me paypig for you for once
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It feels like the women in this game were added as a transexual afterthought.
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brothers and sister: i am in
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Fuck this I'm going to bed and either will try in the morning or everyone who does get in tonight tells everyone else Paladin sucks donkey dick
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>>2119661
same. try again in the morning....
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>>2119661
>>2119671
Fixing what? You can't purchase it?
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>>2119673
Been trying to buy this shit since they put it up and it keeps erroring out so I'm going to bed is all.
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bro seething in chat because the expansion is $40
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>>2119676
Yeah, it's literally rush hours, This expansion is already a huge success. Diablo players and WoW players (the preorder has housing items for WoW) buy it.
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got a free pet bros
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I think I might skip this season.
the pally is cool and all but I can never play 2 seasons in a row, always get burnout, and I'll rather play the expansion than this season.
so will have to play pally on april.
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>>2119745
Just say you're broke dude.
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>2119746
He states he respects his own time and skipping a season, but will play the xpac. You were dropped on the head as a child, I understand.
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Sorry bro, can't hear you through my spinning hammers
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Hammer away, attaboy!
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Should I skip the OG campaign or do it as a refresher?
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>>2119842
skip og. play voh for better xp if you want. most seem to be playing helltide
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Blizzard is a really scummy greedy company. Charge for the initial game, charge for each expansion, charge money for the coolest looking cosmetics, all while including a paid battlepass that they recently drastically reduced in quality and amount of cosmetics you receive from it. All for a game that is barely average. Really think about this in your head everyone. Its pretty fucked...
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>>2119912
maybe try not being poor
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>>2119916
maybe try not being a stooge
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so is the paladin fun or not
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>>2119935
So far i think it's fun. It's cool to not know wtf you're doing again. They'll figure out muh meta in a day or so.



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