manon edition>『NGS ヘッドライン WAVE 』(11/25/2025)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3E_FRiUhM>Scratch Tickets:https://pso2.jp/players/fashionitems/https://www.bumped.org/phantasy/category/scratch/>News/Events/Etc:https://pso2.jp/players/news/>NGS Wiki:https://pso2ngs.swiki.jp/>NGS Damage Calculator:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SgSmKVXDZet4F8Ot6-PsbUSUPHGe2eVChUVA9uS3g0k/>NGS Verification Data (frame data, enemy stats, game mechanics, etc):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_OgubzM5QFe4rua4Xu0GSMAI8Idoq8r2yI8Ioyec6oY/>Item Codes and Keywords:https://ngs.pso2-makapo.com/category/in-game-keywords/>Fashion Historyhttps://nekowabot.io/pso2/fashion>NGS Roadmap:https://pso2.jp/players/about/roadmap/future/>PSO2 Information/FAQhttps://pastebin.com/ZDJZdzJJ>Older Phantasy Star Gameshttps://pastebin.com/cdsJcqUCprevious thread: >>2078917
Blintrovert is the hottest remaining pso2g by a landslide
I don't even wanna log in for the 10-pulls a day freebies
holy shit this general was actually moved here. didn't think i'd live to see the day
I always check-in to see how the game is doing!Glad to see its still alive and thriving!!!!
Remember when this game wasn't a blatant p2w cash grab?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNhSEbugKIk
>>2096397its a gacha game at this point, do the same thing as you do to all maintenance mode gacha games. your gear and fashion and even face will be powercrept. its not gotten a new playstyle or game mode since years ago. nothing you own matters.
at least you can fuck i guess
>>2096376>I noticed a lot of BP pso2g started coming backI wonder why
Why are the servers offline?
>>2097078how do we tell him
Keep paying global, tyty
>>2097106nice list of people loafing around or team fraternizing since the bulk of the content is in all ship matchmaking
>Update gayme>Breaks everythingtruly the windows 11 supah game experience
>>2097113u dnt mattr lil pup
>>2097343but enough about yourself
>Sega sold their Nvidia stock early (if they held they would have 1+ trillion today)Holy fucking shit lmao
>>2098755Kek
>>2098755They're also down 90% on profits this year
Alive game by the way
>>2098839Is that real? Everything I google about their profits, it looks normal. Plus, their stock price hasn't crash.
>>2099413
>>2099461this is real but its due to pachinko license approval delays and acquisition of rovio using pso2's entire lifetime revenue. f2p garbage performed as expected. doesn't really explain why they suddenly held surveys. its probably worse than it seems.
>>2099413global is so dead it's hilarious, just people leeching, scratchers asking for 50 mil a 2$ pop lmao
>>2099580why should anyone be giving attendance to this dogshit version of divide quest anyway? ex skills will never be as good as build up arts too.
>>2099580pso2, both versions were a failure so u arent missing much
>>2099774nah. jp is a "success". the geriatric japanese pulled the ladder up behind them right when the game got good with ep6 and were like we want sedentary braindead gameplay.global is also a "success". the content creators pulled the ladder up behind them right when braver got buffs and were like no more real class buffs need to happen.as for exploring the stars, introducing insect darkers and toy darkers and aquatic darkers and bird darkers, star rail beat them to the punch.ngs is basically task failed successfully. the task being to reboot pso2.
>>2099867sure bro, whatever you say bro, good for you bro grats bro
>>2099896https://voca.ro/1hBxxn6TO4iu
>>2099774japan rejected western dev help and now they can't even afford to be trained by them in western game engine thanks to the weakening yen. now they only produce enough content to fit into a pachinko machine sequence. jp games have fallen.
>>2099993good, because thanks to the western shit we got ngs
>>2099993sybau nig***er, pso2 was peak because it was centered around japan.
>>2100029You will NEVER be Japanese.
>>2100029Ngs is still centered around Japan, global shutting down won't magically fix NGS, the core problems came from Jp centered Ep5.
>>2100420>"Ngs is still centered around Japan, global shutting down won't magically fix NGS">implemented "type 1" "type 2" from global>implemented "casual" and "hardcore" difficulty naming from global>implemented mission pass from global>implemented the lack of flavor text from global>implemented "expert matchmaking is pointless" from global>implemented terrible main website style from global>implemented listing gacha % rates ingame from global>implemented basewear and innearwear fusion censorship with n-versions>implemented a lack of collabs from global, mixed with the jp heads desire not to do any gameplay related collabs as that "burdened the teamit has already corrupted the core. the things are centered around japan are the reset hours, headline hours, ingame tax rate, the fucking 6 months inbetween development cycles, the cherrypicking of feedback, and posting notices on the main website begging jp players to be socially responsible and not leech and that never happens these days so they turn on the need to tag every mob in content to get drops. game is fucked because its a bad game.>the core problems came from Jp centered Ep5false, they had every opportunity to learn from ep5 after ep6 and reverse pedaled instead. ep5 is unironically not responsible for ngs problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06tM
>>2100590It's funny. They did all this because they were told/shown that it was what would make NGS successful globally. But, instead it not only fucked them globally, but also pissed off their native players.
>>2100590>"ep5 is unironically not responsible for ngs problems.">back pedaling back to the things that almost killed pso2 and then doubling down on them unironically isnt the problem with NGS.What is it that's not clicking in people's minds, that they can say retarded shit like this and think it's completely sound logic.
>>2101833This is you blaming simpsons episode 5 for simpsons episode 5837485275845 problems.
>>2101719100% ngs was affected by groups presenting fake charts, many companies were pissed that they were misled, but really ngs arrived at where it is because the world has been infected with the vtuber virus where they would rather watch someone else play the game and inject nonsense words every 5 seconds because of tiktok brainrot. this has let games get away with dogshit, because its like a shit ride where you get to hear more of your eceleb talk about themselves, not about the game. and when it is a good game, notice how vtubers become an annoyance getting in the way of the spectacle. any vtuber collab game is doomed to failure.
>>2097106Hoooly mogged
Can you even imagine being an old chap working for phantasy star and those kids from the day now adults come and ask you >hey! ***-sama! in what cool things are you guys working?! I am so excited to get back into your games, we used to slay corruption while looking COOL. W-well...we just made dresses for males or body type 1 in our case and uh...that's the game direction now..
>>2102556the funny part is people begging for pso or a remake and it will never happen other than via a pso2/pso2es/idola like mainframe because sega is now sega sammy, merged with their "gaming" (gambling/pachinko) side to save how AILING their "entertainment" (videogaming) side was before. this applies to all games prior to universe. they were sinking the company. full games are also a bust because it doesn't give them flexibility on how to charge customers.pso2 was a much better balance 95% of the time hard won with 10 years of player-dev negotiations and you psofags let it slide into ngs which is worse 200% of the time because you rejected pso2. ngs is almost certainly a direct result if you reject pso2 and incorporate pso-isms like single planet and completely braindead palette action. turns out, you get dogshit.
>>2102572the funny part is we don't care, you don't care either you're just rambling some corporation nonsense when you're a nobody over internet, retard kys
>>2102617>"I don't care so you don't care, its my turn to ramble and we are nobody over the internet"the projection is unreal. why are you here if you don't care about the series retard
>>2102627He's not the one running retarded corporate insider narratives about shit that didnt even happen in this general prior to NGS. Pretty clear to say he cares about the series more than you.
>>2102710>the content creators care more about the series more than youhttps://files.catbox.moe/b4uern.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/e7d597.mp4
>>2102710you don't belong here if you were never part of pso2g prior to global arriving
>>2102741I joined post-ngs and there is fuck all you can do to make me leave. :3
>>2102745>I joined post-ngs and there is fuck all you can do to make me leave this asylum
Thanks to a passionate community of consumers, the Sega brand has become synonymous with technical leadership, quality, and reliability of leading-edge video game products. We would like to thank our millions of customers, hundreds of partners and all of the Sega team members who have supported the Phantasy Star journey for the last 38 years.
Man these generals actually fucked right off to this corner of the Mongolian basket weaving board. I haven't played this game in 3 years already. How is global even alive at this point.
>>2096107>Nu-Holcid breast reduction Look how these sega niggers massacred my girl
yes u havnt played the game in 3 years and suddenly u found the pss thread in vm of all places if u had more than 1 working braincell u'd also understand that 20 people swiping hundreds weekly can maintain it up
>>2102838
>>2102807>How is global even alive at this point.Because Jp is in the exact same boat. The same lack of content global has, the same lazy rehashes of pso2 assets, the same lack of direction etc. The only difference is that Sega can still grift the JP newfags with merch runs and local collabs, global however they can not market the game at all because there no game to market in the first place, not until the do something drastic expansion in adding content to the game, not rerunning seasonal festivals and Lq's over and over again. They arent gonna shut down global, because pso2 base costs had already outgrew the Jp player base once before, NGS costs even more and is giving people much less. One can not die without the other, and when both die so does the franchise, because Sega has royally fucked up their easiest cash cow for like almost 15 years. No one is ever gonna trust them to make an MMO ever again and they will avoid Phantasy star anything like the plague.
>>21028384chan.org front page features some threads from random boards and this one popped up.
>>2103233>the cloudflare outage caused by idiot programmers at cloudflare pushing buffer size changes not even supported by their precheck testing tool ended up promoting this thread once the site returnedsega has been unbelievably lucky with the pso2 series, but for a company it sure is comically bad at capitalizing on it, and likes to put idiots in charge for far too long when this series has been defined by changing directors to noticeably improve and innovate on it.
>>2103835this is why ep5 cannot be blamed for ngs problems, because even it fucked off for ep6 and let itself be salvaged by the end. meanwhile ngs v2 was like you see all these fucking gameplay and design problems ngs has? well we're not dealing with them, we're adding long delayed socialization features like trading card game and housing instead. oh you're not satisfied with those? weird. fine we'll make half assed efforts to address main game issues that don't feel like they have any thought or quality assurance put into them. please never ask us to fix gameplay issues again.
aaaaaaand the bot comes back
>>2103875>meanwhile ngs v2 was like you see all these fucking gameplay and design problems ngs has? well we're not dealing with them, we're adding long delayed socialization features like trading card game and housing instead. oh you're not satisfied with those? weird. fine we'll make half assed efforts to address main game issues that don't feel like they have any thought or quality assurance put into them. please never ask us to fix gameplay issues again.for some reason Japanese devs are completely allergic to combat shit. even FFXIV they drag their ass with "wait 2+ years for next expansion" to fix any minor or major class issues while they keep throwing useless side content like fall guys and bot crafting/gathering.
Let's see, average anon routine >Nonsense pso2 base talk >Nonsense corporation talk >Nonsense other video games comparison talk >" offended by everything ashammed of nothing "
>>2103923Let's see, average anon routine>Nonsense pso2 base talk>Nonsense corporation talk>Nonsense other video games comparison talk>" offended by everything ashammed of nothing ">Nonsense complaining about what anons are saying nosensably
>>2100590>this tldr post was made by a LVMmany such cases
What's the general consensus of the game in Japan right now? Do they have major reviewers that review games like how they give FFXIV expansions scores?
>>2104674>Do they have major reviewers that review games like how they give FFXIV expansions scoresNo because they havent had any major expansions just "updates" another way they've been dodging ans mitigating harsh criticism
>>2104674Please check the twitter account of one of the series' biggest fan @pso2_kami_game
>>2104682A simpleton wouldn't understand that they have different cultures and values.
>daikkuri>raimu
>>2105068grim
>no pycdead game lowkey fr
>>2105163LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO AHAHAHAHAHA
>>2105163the hottest pso2g by a landslide
>>2105215you have to let go aiatar
>>2105477funniest thing is aiatar doesnt even look half as good. never has
Guys which thread are we suppose to use there are two?
>>2106023bpsrg, duh
>>2105647>>2105477you can stop replying to yourself blint
>>2106460aiatar always calls his cumrag clique to shitpost. its vomit inducing to see you fags.
>>2106828aiatar could have gotten anyone but chooses wakaba out of all people. *puke*
>>2106838didnt have much choice tbf. game is dead and only shit stuck around.
If I post my character do you all promise to be nice and post positive comments only?
>>2102737>Niggers ruined pso2Got it>Phashion mafia are cringe faggotsShockerImagine thinking your retarded inflated lookbook numbers mean anything. Youre still a miserable sack on the verge of ACK-ing yourself
>>2107297t. negative ratio lookbook numbers
i will never understand how objectively bad sliders like crimson-1, kriell, moira, gyro or blender can have such high looks to likes ratiosi have never opened these lookbooks and thought they looked good enough to leave a like
>>2107346Because every name you listed is S tier sliders
>>2107385Two maybe three of those names have good sliders.
>>2107297>Phashion mafia???
>>2107346>desperately namedropping his thread enemies who’ve all moved on actually sad
>>2107346Crimson, gyro and blender mog you brutally little gup
>>2107389>crimson-1S tier >kriellS tier >moiraS tier >gyroS tier>blenderS tier
>>2107419remember the xbox mafia?
>>2106838Jealousy is a sin anon
>>2096397I manually decline it half the time now, got all the Vocal Performance emotes they keep recycling instead of adding new items.>>2098755If this were a Korean company they would have held onto that shit.
>>2106828Clique to shitpost kun..
black hair and red eye minheights doko
>>2107749
>>2106838GIWTWM it's not fair t1 bros...
>>2107766wrong minheight. i like toble minheights
>>2107749Is it finally time to post this...
>>2107784K-kay...
>>2107784sex. where are the other black hair red eyed toble minheights
>>2107784foxbox!
>>2107784T3s?
>>2107784face sliders pls
I hope you moved to JP for your mental state.
>loading up aids twerker and its vpn with jaded maintainers and lack of item translation with tens of billions of exchange shops with worse ping, while getting cucked out of good prices through being late to the market, to join hunting fields that run away from gaijin, for a game that is on maint mode foreverat this point you might as well play filthy gacha games, why even support sega at this point. they took all of pso2s revenue and used it to buy out overseas mobile game companies instead of improving the game.
>>2107834what do you think ngs is, retard-kun
>He thinks you need a vpn to play jp >He doesn't know how the game works and thinks you'll lag lol at the very least be sure to play the game before shitposting
>try to do leciel in global >6 runs, only killed boss 1>try to do leciel in jp >6 runs, killed all 6 and with spare time I know where I am staying.
>>2107841>what do you think ngs isnot even sega knows
chat am I healthy if I have and gear 7 accs with different friends and personalities in global
>>2107852if everyone can do it and its available 24/7, then its not worth doing. you retards complaining about limited hours content ruined the game. they don't even try to make the available content worth it, they don't even try to make the limited content worth it either. because of you, they had to increase the FOMO a hundredfold in the worst ways possible. ur right anon, I hope you stay in the pit you made where you belong forever because you retards inspired sega with worse ideas.
Uh oh melty
>>2107884you are part of the problem
>>2107811jp has never been relevant here
>>2107843the game lags noticeably and often though? regardless of where you playfights almost never function on client side, there hasnt been a day since launch where i havent experienced combat lag with enemies freezing, delays, hit registration failing, perfectly parrying and hearing the audio cue but not getting the counter or even getting hurt when i shouldnt, etc
>>2107901they have an AT field over the japanese version that sees through even most proxies that are too lazy to shield their users and slows down overseas connections exacerbating the problem. the first sign of this happening was that LQ that had train ghidoran at the end, even with the best connection or when not needing a proxy they'd still delay the end teleporter appearing. it was probably since ep4 where they got extremely hostile. at the time it was probably user tolerable because of how good the game was as it was riding off ep3 and only fucked up with the forgettable anime tie in school arc.
Oh uh the melty continues
>>2107919and it lags just the same on na
the game lags so much because sega reduced the tickrate sometime during ngs v2 in a shitty effort to reduce live ops cost. just like they discontinued the fashion catalog on the main website.
>>2107980its the same lag since ep4 jp you tard its the same on base on jp on na on ngs
>>2107990and yet the collision detection for automatic doors in ngs is way slower so they have to make them open at a gigantic distance compared to shop area doors and my room doors in pso2. they really fucked with the space aesthetic. the og devs who probably played xenosaga are rolling in their graves now.
>>2108007yeah everything is bad it doesnt change the fact that the game lags everywhere you go anywhere you play any time of day
>>2108012>everywhere you go anywhere you play any time of dayyou got problems if you still play the game and don't treat it as a login simulator at this point
>>2108018we are both losers for even having this thread up
>farming in dex>Full pse bar>Chaos trial appears >Complete them>Bar drops instead>No burstFuck This Gook Game
>>2108034>trying to dext without a coordinated gc with bot roomsits not even worth your time just grind leciel
I can remove my sandals for you anon if you want me to to walk barefoot
>>2108034enjoying running around inside the rappy slot machine yet? this is your pit now.
>>2107749What a coincidence.
>>2108341I need a machi catbox PLEASE
Hey guys i'm here if you want to play pso2 ngs together today.
>>2106838Why do you care so much who someone edates?
>>2108804Because it's there job to make sure these threads always derail from any actual discussion so that actual sega crawlers can't get a clear reading on what they can do fix the game, Ultimately cementing that "Pso2 doesn't click with the west" and then Sega will pull the plug on the global side.
>>2108870>so that actual sega crawlers can't get a clear reading on what they can do fix the gameno, this has become the peak idiocy at sega. they want to run the game their way, and only when it fails do they then start sifting through feedback from years ago. but by the time they do so, the problems have multiplied and multifolded that its simply not enough measures. when you're only allowed to update the game every 6 months, all the shit piles up and then they don't bother because the players have been lost already.>Ultimately cementing that "Pso2 doesn't click with the west" and then Sega will pull the plug on the global side.see pic related
>>2108804mad at people being happy I guess
>>2109104I'm not stating that as fact, i'm just stating what they believe will happen if they keep flooding the threads with innocuous bullshit.
Who do you all miss the most?>Boxymissed>Creepmissed>Makumissed>EMVmissed>/pso2g/missed
is this where all the schizos group up
>>2109363yes
I haven't played NGS since the desert region came out and I have the itch but also questions>is there actual content beyond grinding combat zones now?>should I start a new character or stick to the old?>can I unlock not-luster right away or are there arbitrary level requirements like base
>>2109528game is shit go play something else
>>21095281) Not really2) No point3) I don't recall anything needed to unlock it. Just go to class changing NPC and swap and that was it.Game isn't any better than when you left it
>>2096270Nigga please
>>2107346Wouldnt mind raping gyro and her dog
>>2107784Hey! Sex?~
>>2108113Walk barefoot to my bed
>>2108760Ship1?
>>2108186No one asked
>>2109528Just play the game nigger and have fun. I would stick with your current character and explore what you can do to progress and get nmeseta.
>>2107784my horse wife!... post it...
plotting...
>>2108341you're so hot. more please
>>2108341catbox...
>>2107784>modded emotesoon...
Today I made my 3rd account to cheat on you *
>>2110609Hi Esvatira
>>2109528if you repickup ngs you dont have an itch you have a neurological problem
>>2109923What are we doing in the bed?
>>2110687
>>2109528just play where winds meet
>>2110728404 anime not found
I want to fuck all of my friends
>>2110728worse than ngs in most ways that you would play ngs or pso2 for
>>2110769>It costs real life money to change your character's face or gender. There's an early main quest where an NPC lets you do it again if you want. Apparently you can do it with in-game currency instead if you buy the battle pass or monthly pass or whatever it's called, it's worth about $5 I think but the price might be different in NA. Idk how much the ticket itself will cost but I'm guessing around $5-10.>Video explaining the how the cosmetics work on CN, the TLDW is basically:>150 pulls to pity, each pull costs around ~2 USD>Pity seems to be some sort of little orb and not the items themselves, you use that orb to trade for the item you want.>Despite the pity being a single orb, some items in the pool could cost more than 1, this has been somewhat improved later on by the devs but I zoned out and don't want to rewatch the video.>You can pull on the banner with two currencies, one that you can earn through in-game activties but binds the item to your account and one that doesn't but can only be attained with real money.>The ones that are not account bound can be sold in the black market>The black market seems to work solely with cosmetics from what I understand, you can't p2w your way in the gacha and buy gear, just other cosmetics.>I'm honestly really surprised by it, despite apparently taking several months for you to get enough money to buy a cosmetic in the blakc market the fact you CAN is really really nice.the retards really be like "ngs is bad so play our bad game too"
>>2110788I'm sorry dude but fighting goose and roleplaying as a handsome chinese boy is more appealing than anything ngs is offering at the moment.The only thing to look forward to is a boss fight released in 2013 in the better version of the game, and a story related boss without any story build up in february.
alive game
>>2110609Hello Broomop
>>2110820>I'm sorry dude but fighting goose and roleplaying as a handsome chinese boythis is just any gacha game>The only thing to look forward to is a boss fight released in 2013 in the better version of the game, and a story related boss without any story build up in february.if those sound like things to look forward to you are retarded and proved nobody should take your advice
>>2110687>>2110690Queen...mommy, you make me super horny
>>2110861Wats like being a basedboi in 2026?
>>2110962how would I know.also I looked up that where farts meet game further, and they involve historical figures which is a gigantic landmine to step on, because they already had to censor that wuchang game to show them always surrendering instead of being defeated. why bother when the games storywriters are going to have their toes stepped on all the time.its obviously a foreign agent invasion here, salty that sega blockaded china from accessing pso2 over high concentration of rmt, and recommending their game instead. maybe make a good game premise first like every other high budget gachashit with actual aura.
>>2110687Have lotsa fun cutie...
>>2110609Add me please!
>>2110753Where can i add you as friend?
>>2110833We back
Dark falz loser next week get hype get hype get hype
>>2111401>Be me, gigachad best-in-slot>Enter Loser UQ>7 randoms all in free gear or worse>somehow 5 who entered are still in old Epith and Decem II>What the fuck>They wont stop dying>1hr timer runs out
>>2111573wow you boughted the best in slot?wow you are so strong and powerful...wow....
>>2111573more like>Enter Loser UQ>7 randoms all in free gear or worse>clear anyway because NGS is a joke>my bis completely useless and didnt make a difference
>>2111573>timer runs outKino
machi please more
Is Akroselio still relevant after Epith III?
>>2110788>>2110861bro your game is ass and is FILLED with loser fucking weirdos LOL. shut up faggot.
>>2111573>loser uqits either luther uq or loser eq, you made it obvious you are a jp ngs newfag. my condolences for joining when nobody wants to bother anymore because pso2 is the superior game, and everyone runs same ship to avoid the allship retards, so it will always have a population problem unless you weeb up for ship 4. this game is cooked. it should have done expert matchmaking trials years ago, because gear doesn't equal output or clearability but hey this system comes from a director who doesnt even play the game.>>2111662make this the burger king crown and add a picture of salisbury steak>>2111674the problem is that the retards at sega think that by making the fight longer with repetitive action or limited restasign equals more content, so they will do nothing to actually improve general playerbase output e.g. successor classes.>>2112325this is unironically the most normal screenshot of ngs, actually looks serviceablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m3D4RaK82g
>>2112169Get whatever gives you more potency bro.
Where can i get the vids of the minheight dogs?
>>2112383
>>2112383gyro and the other one?
Losers came back for loser
>>2112440Welcome back!
Thats so creepy dude, do u sit there all day waiting for a reply
Genetic dead end
Hey
>>2112476
>>2110861>this is just any gameftfy where are my video game enjoyer knowers at
>>2100590Episode5 is unironically responsible for NGS problems because the same asshole made both
>PSO2 Nubian-Ghetto-ShitholeNice server globabs
>>2112714>its all HMZK, its just himKMR is onboard with the monetization of the game and the sega president/ceo have defended the game. the customer support center is even entirely routed to sega of japan instead of having a side team being able to fix things. its a problem with sega of japan at this point.and difficulty in securing global contracts for ips has affected collabs and the same day release of content globally has strained the team. global IS the problem, and that is mainly because the people at sega are stingy bastards raiding pso2s coffers to run off with it using writeoff projects instead of channeling it back into the game. you're letting sega get away with it by using their scapegoat/scapeshield.
>>2112380this game needs to go back to being an actual rpg where you get equipment from a farmable dungeon, and each town progressively offers better selection. fuck the noise saying that all dungeon drop sources must be universal. look where that got the game.maybe just evolve the gear system to something like pso2es where monsters drop buff chips you can slot onto an activatable palette under conditions. ex op and skill rings are already nearly there but falls flat.for an ultra evolution game it hasn't done enough. too scared to rock the profit boat but too scared to innovate either. whatever ngs is, it would displease even their own mascot.
>>2113021>profitJust how much does this game generate? Can't be that much nowadays
>>2113021I don't think they are scared to innovate. I think they just have zero motivation to. Devs couldn't give less of a fuck about the game.>>2113052Enough to continue pushing out their updates. When that stops happening, you'll know things have gotten real bad.
>>2113052>Just how much does this game generate? Can't be that much nowadayssega basically treats the game as an actual pachinko machine with bare minimum to fit a future cabinet, so its in the green. pso2 apparently generated 10 times that of any previous titles and ngs apparently generates about as much, if not for what stupid development cost they incurred and collab cashouts. since its only generating as much as before, they don't want to invest more in it because they think the game started 15 years back instead of the reboot they bill it as and is a writeoff project. this is the stupidest timeline.>>2113070how the fuck does even the dying movie industry have more balls to listen to their audience and do actual fanservice like for the sonic movies, revamping sonics design, acknowledging slightly that 2 was too much human arc nonsense, and giving exactly what fans want with 3 with actual stingers. pso2 got an actual homage and reboot through episode oracle. how the fuck did it degrade this badly. them bringing in more of pso2 is just sad because theres nothing in ngs that stands out on its own. it couldnt even make a single truly original or fanservice thing that wasn't seen before.
>>2112790>its all HMZK, its just himPic relatedHow many times do we need to push your nose into the shit until you understand. Here you are going about how global's the issue due how hard it to get collabs reserved and that's why global's the issue, and everytime we have to beat it over your head is that the game is fucked at a core level, collabs are meaningless. The real issue is that with all the freedom and possiblities we could be given with a space scifi phantasy rpg, all the established concepts from games of old that could be refine and reapplied to NGS and structure even newer stuff. They have access to all of that and they fuck all with the potential and instead jusg lazily rehash the same low effort content that contributes nothing to help actually develop NGS into something really great. It just stagnates it. This is the exact same shit they expected us to accept under Ep5. And the guy responsible for that most is the same guy who's running NGS. Doesnt even matter if the Pres of Sega is "defending" the game, of course he's gonna cope. Pso2's 14year history has been a massive blunder on Sega's history as far as managing a game goes. They have no choice but to save face and cope the game is fine. If they admit "defeat", then SEGA's rep will tank so hard they'll never fully recover from.
>>2112423Yes. gyro! and "caelestis". I just saw how the second one took huge gock. She took it very well for her minheight body.
>>2112476Hey...
>>2113377>actually mindbroken into thinking one man is responsible for all of his companynever was the case. even sakai and kmr took the fall for ep5 failing. and it certainly wasn't hmzk, despite his incompetency, that told the devs to bake the game at 3am. there's something obviously not right at sega.
>>2113488Motherfucker, if it's okay for people to still to this day be totally fine with blaming Yoshi-p ruing XIV or Normura for literally everything wrong with Square enix, people still keep blaming Harada for ruining Bamco, with barely any correlation what so ever, then we can completely blame NGS on HMZK, especially when his name is literally written all over it and he's the one in the most influential position to actually fix the damn game. What your saying is on the same level as going to a department, actually witness the store manager run the damn store to the ground, by doing shit not even other store managers would be or even actually doing in the first place, and your instinct is to call out literally every one BUT the store manager blatantly fucking things up right in front of your eyes.
>>2113488>Lets make a much shittier, less complete and more heavily monetized version of Xenoblade X like 5 years after it already exists.Bravo, Sega!
Do you guys ever stop fighting? I might remove this from my thread watcher if you don't stop...
horny...
>>2112790>you're letting sega get away with it>sEgA LiStEnS tO uNdErWaTeR bAsKeT wEaViNg FoRuMs THIS IS YOUR FAULT REEEWetarded.
>>2114165Yeah sega hasn't listened to any proper feedback for half a decade now
imagine running defense and deflection for fucking hamazaki
>>2114168What does he even want? Like he's trying to gaslight people into Kyoani'ing Sonic Team, lmao
>>2113954Sorry...
>>2114070Me too... for minheights...
>>2113954It's what happens when people got too much energy to burn but don't use it. Just look at the ragers.
>>2113690U are missing the point entirely. sure removing hmzk from his post is #1 priority. but it alone will not solve ngs problems because the management is crooked and put ngs into the third party internal division that develops live service mobile games but with no additional hands on deck and "brainstorming ideas" only every 6 months. Ngs design has been fucked over 5 years that its borderline unsalvageble wreck 95% sunk, at this point you dont even need to remove the captain from the sinking ship, you need to tow and sink the entire game into the ocean at the ship deposit site because there is nothing left to salvage or build on.
ngs still gotyey
Everyone is so hostile.
>>2114518bastet is such a joke character
>>2114504The only one missing the point here is you. If you truly believe NGS can't be turned around and that nothing about it can be improved on or salvaged, your mindset is better than HMZK's game design solution. Obviously who ever put him back into a lead director in SEGA's upper management needs to be jettisoned as well. but NGS and Pso2's circumstance is way too complex for you just say "We just gotta burn it down". To use your ship analogy, there is no towing it back to port to sink it and start over. It's marooned out into sea far beyond the reach of any land. You sink it now, nothing related to Phantasy Star will ever survive, and the disaster of Pso2 failing despite SEGA literally having an unchallenged monopoly on it's setting and style of game, for like 14 years, there was no excuse for them to not be able to make money with something like Pso2 and NGS, the repercussions of that will make SEGA and even bigger laughing stock than they already are. You think i'm telling you the ship can't ever be sunk. I'm actually telling you the ship can't be sunk yet, not until they get the game into definitive favorable opinion. Other wise Phantasy Star and possibly the end of SEGA's reputation will be forever permanently destroyed. So the answer is not to put the cart in front of the horse, deflect from HMZK and call for NGS to just be shut down. the answer is to drag HMZK into the spotlight, highlight him and his ideas as the number one problem with the game, and when's finally shit canned and hopefully replaced for good, then you call for NGS to shut down so we can move on. If you just scream "burn it down, burn it all down." They will not learn there lesson, hell why do you thing Ep5 really changed midway towards the end? It's because people rioted and called out the shit he, in Ep5, was pushing on people. Any talk about "It's the trannies fault" or "It's all Global's fault", at this point, should be disregarded as retards shilling.
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>>2114692Ay dios mios! On topic disscussion....?Por que!?
>>2114668>If you truly believe NGS can't be turned around and that nothing about it can be improved on or salvaged, your mindset is better than HMZK's game design solution. too late for a relaunch either>but NGS and Pso2's circumstance is way too complex for you just say "We just gotta burn it down".they should close shop in the face of what tower of fantasy and zenless and star rail and tribe nine and wuthering have been doing, its an actual national embarrassment at this point.>To use your ship analogy, there is no towing it back to port to sink it and start over. It's marooned out into sea far beyond the reach of any land. You sink it now, nothing related to Phantasy Star will ever survivefuck yeah if it means the end of ngs. pso2 left its legacy and fuckos hated it, so let it all be shutdown and we can start a private server because its not like fucking anything has happened with the series after pso2s and idolas end.>Other wise Phantasy Star and possibly the end of SEGA's reputation will be forever permanently destroyedthey did it themselves.>the answer is to drag HMZK into the spotlight, highlight him and his ideas as the number one problem with the game, and when's finally shit canned and hopefully replaced for good, then you call for NGS to shut down so we can move on.he already highlighted that the cres cube was his idea and the portable hologram rubbish was the teams idea. the team loves designing line strike so much, they made developing on it as a "reward for completing stipulated development on time". ousting him isnt enough at this point.>If you just scream "burn it down, burn it all down."nobody is saying to "burn it down" there are/were more than capable people actually wanting to see the series success e.g. ysok who was an intern, but at this point someone needs to spill the tea on what the fuck is happening internally.
>>2114668>They will not learn there lesson, hell why do you thing Ep5 really changed midway towards the end? It's because people rioted and called out the shit he, in Ep5, was pushing on people.no, it was because the devs were still listening as part of the pso2 experience. we're way past that point. they've ignored user feedback and user design contests since retem. all the designers sega could freely learn from have moved on.>Any talk about "It's the trannies fault"they're referring to the community manager gwiz who colossally fucked up launch momentum and accused a community mapping site of datamining. the problem again, isnt really gwiz, despite them shitting all over the launch, its that sega fired the more professional third party community support and transferred front end operations to sega of the west. those morons who botched portable 2's launch and communications. nothing good was ever going to come out of that.>or "It's all Global's fault"lets be real it definitely is because they failed the shittest with pso2s lack of flavor text so they implemented it universally.
these AI posts are getting wild
>>2114904No doing all of this to run defense and gaslight people into accepting that the literal Series director isnt responsible for why the series has been bleeding through it's players for 5 years and still going.
>>2114995Now that's wild
>>2114995>gaslight people into accepting that the literal Series director isnt responsiblemotherfucker, KMR has been series director even through ep6 and went unlisted when ngs launched due to his public exodus enacted by sakai. eventually, KMR got promoted to financials director of the sega division and HMZK took over the series director chair. kohei sasagawa has taken over the director role, which YSOK was in ep6. they are playing musical chairs. the only conclusion according to your logic is that the entire phantasy star crew has been replaced with skinwalkers. but anyway even if you oust HMZK, nothing will change. what changed in EP6 was suddenly elevating a sega intern that cared, YSOK, to administrator level and he set out to fix things. there is clearly no one at the division like that anymore otherwise it would have happened already.
lmk when ur done using chat gpt for posts so the real adults can talk about the game
>>2114549>Black hair MakuNever ever again....
>>2115063>this is all chatgpt its not realif it were chatgpt there would be an ad for coca cola and mcdonalds buried in it somewhere, bimbot. you aren't an adult either if you dont know where videogames.com leads. I accept your concession.
who cares about these stream of consciousness rants post minheights
>>2115088pso2 won. ngs lost.
>>2115098Dang its doing worse than NGS
>>2115105pso2s revenue was used to buy the angry birds company to make a fall guys clone. let that sink in.
>>2114668what will actually save phantasy star after episode 6 is an actual episode 7. then we can make endless 67 jokes and gain infinite social media traction. this pleases the google seo. its just that simple.
>pso2es introduces chip of manon>effect boosts the power of just attacks>recovers photon point on dodging like a successorlike I said, there are people at sega actually interested in saving the game. its the people at the top that are suppressing them. its not even the director impeding everything at this point.
>>2115331Outfit is sex
>>2115331>its the people at the top that are suppressing them.And guess who's at the top of phantasy Star right now?
>>2115468
>>2115486All roads lead to Hamazaki, this is the questionable truth.
>>2115331Why would people at the top suppress them? You telling me that people at the top are telling their developers that they pay to sit on their ass and do fuck all?It probably takes them like 1 day to make their 6mo patch. Do, they then just leave the offices and go party for the other 5.9months?
>>2115581>Do, they then just leave the offices and go party for the other 5.9months?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxhg_vlJ7ng
>>2115581Intentional sabotage or negligence, to justify their need to be there. Remember this allegedly started because SEGA got taken for a ride trying to rebirth Sakura wars, and when they diverted funds from NGS into most like that disaster of a Gacha, they left the Phantasy star get eaten alive by the wolves, most of them then ended up leaving and now all we have left is someone like HMZK helming the ship, and he's just squatting there, doing the absolute bare mininum to prove he's "fixing" the game, but leaving enough problems for him to "See? You need me cause I'm your best bet at improving this series".
>>2115581are we finally getting through that phantasy star is a shell company at this point. everything has been paid for in advance thinking that this would peak just by being open world. the higher ups demand that this game sit on its arse for the full 10 years it paid for as long as it is 1% green, and they have evidently stopped caring as long as it is profitable. they stick their heads in the sand and feign ignorance or how tarnished it has become compared to pso2s sheer powerhouse. they all want to head their own pet projects and siphon the money out of pso2. if everything else has been ruled out, then the deduction no matter how absurd must be true.
>>2115631it really sucks how as long as the content isn't a mobile game or movie, sega execs can't resist executive meddling. they've fucked with sonic 3, sonic mania, persona 3 reload, pso2ngs, house of the dead remakes, while leaving pso2es, idola, the sonic movies alone. they probably leave yakuza alone too because of the connections if they do a bad impression.what would save the phantasy star brand at this point is if they bring those missing phantasy star titles to the west along with remastering the classics like pso, pso2, zero, nova and infinity without fucking it up.ngs? ngs mystery died after aegis. its unsalvageable because the world is too compact yet sparse that it cannot grow anymore. even if they added more to it, its just pso2 all over again and that still died recently enough that its become stupid to pay homage to it especially when its right next door and accessible.pso2es and idola and episode oracle already served the purpose of homaging pso2. who the fuck cares when ngs does it. its worth nothing rehashing the same 3D thing except slower because they gutted server ping and max player capacity per emergency instance to save costs. its an insulting degradation and worse transformation yet they call it a homage.
where is the dark elf...
nice posts about the ga--- oh wait, it's all corpo shit from a internet psychopath
>>2115737You don't actually want a remake at this point, like the halo remake theyd gut game modes, ai generate over the weapons and potentials, fuck with the weapon placements, completely botch the script by rewriting, replace purple cortana, fuck with the level design, fuck with the cutscenes, add a sprint button to fuck with poor base gameflow, add a battle pass, and have mundane achievos pop up all over the screen. Gee that sure sounds like pso2 global and ngs. Forced and poorly incorporated western design has ruined pso2.
>>2115867What game? Linestrike, heck even pso2es has gotten more gameplay updates and potential advacement than the game itself. Ngs itself doesnt exist.
>>2115871Oh here we go blaming global again, after we just re-iterated for the millionth time, this shit was being push before global was even a thing.....
>>2115882Global prevented all past collabs from rereleasing in jp and sealed pso2s fate. People werent tired of jp pso2. They were tired of global pso2 fucking it up and introducing shit like mission pass and terrible robo uncle sam outfits. Neither ended up seeing pso2s true potential, not episode 7.
>>2115898NTA but I wish global got the FFXIV collab.
>>2115898The core shit you were just complaining about, the fuck gameplay flow, that started with Ep5, because Hero and then later on other Successors would just clear ground effortlessly, hero was the biggest offender, As far as collabs go the only ones that were actually worth shit were the Eva one, and the Monster Hunter one, everything else was just outdated cosmetics, most of which Global still ended up getting, and as far as Mission pass goes, that is like the one thing NGS isn't fucking up, barely, because for how much people bitch about not being able to be able to whale for cosmetics and not being able to afford stuff, Mission pass basically gives you alot of stuff that was in scratches, basically for free. But again collabs and Mission pass don't mean shit. It's been said a million times, it will continue to be said a million, the issue with Pso2, now NGS, is the lack of development and direction. It's something everyone saw back when they were playing JP Ep5 take root, and it's something that's been plaguing the series far before global was even conceived, and all the shit global introduced doesn't even come close to the damage that's been allowed to dig itself in deep. This "Global vs Jp" shit needs to stop, both sides have the exact same problem plaguing them both.
>>2115915You should wish for a new one, but the issue with that is >DawntrailBut the XIV collab we did get was wasn't really thought out well enough, because when they brought Odin over, he functions exactly like he does in XIV, Yellow danger areas and all, but that style of gameplay doesn't translate well over to pso2, so he was basically nothing more than a massive dps check, that's it. They should have took more liberties and sped him up, have him borrow more from Blu Ringahda so that he could keep with being an 8-man boss/field boss. Odin in the wild was neat to run into though so there's that.
>>2115737Ngs died when they removed the rng dungeons aspect
Should I try to use AI on the images of players posted here?
>>2115989I just wanted the cat tail.
>>2116244What players...?
Sega game awards
>look objectively cuter and better than 99% of the playerbase>thousands of views and likes>but only a 60% like to look ratio>see much uglier charas some i would even call jokes>85% ratiowhyyy
>>2116500Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, anon.
>>2115949>hero was the biggest offenderthats like blaming a character added to a fighting game roster for the previous character failings. if hero imported its demon slayer dante abilities as a subclass to other classes while buffing class gameplay with build up arts, it would have been beloved. ex styles kinda brought that, but failed to bring back heat gauges. the ui is so small and boxed that it looks like any other cooldown based mmo shit which it is really>As far as collabs go most of which Global still ended up gettinglol are you fucking serious. no fairy tale guild room. no freedom wars. no toro kuro. no master chief. no knight gear. no odin. no border break. no toaru virtual on pvp. motherfucker pso2 global received what feels like 5% of the collabs and they promised ALL THE CONTENT why even bring it over>because for how much people bitch about not being able to be able to whale for cosmetics and not being able to afford stuff, Mission pass basically gives you alot of stuff that was in scratches, basically for free.its another dark pattern and bad for the game. don't play the game for awhile and you miss the items. even modern gacha devs put older items in the currency shop. there are too many fucking items in the game that they choose to revive at whim and that is killing the game. easier to not play the game than to subscribe to mihoyo like year interval revival whims.>now NGS, is the lack of development and direction. It's something everyone saw back when they were playing JP Ep5 take rootep5 wasn't even HMZK's brainchild. that onus lies with Sakai, your visionary, who reckoned that people would get bored of the same game after 5 years.>both sides have the exact same problem plaguing them both.global is responsible for dragging down the series with stuff like no collabs. pso2 used to be the talk of the town, the super smash worlds collide and the highlight of tokyo game show.
>>2116500Blender...
You guys goung to talk about the game or what
>>2116516well anon? your thoughts on pspec vol7?
>>2116561idc about what some dev losers have to ramble
>>2116561go back to the modcord, son of a bitch
>>2116578rico was set to appear in idola except you globtards rejected it so it never got to it. also some devs tried making MARS as evolved AIS, but the higher ups kept rejecting the idea, made it generified, and "placated" the unhappy devs by saying that "some future quest" would have AIS like armament. the entire management has been the problem all along. not even the fucking devs like MARS. how do you even salvage the game at this point. the answer is not possible.>>2116582holy mindbroken imagine being such a pariah that you were outed from both aidscord and modcord
>>2116609go back to discord, useless piece of shit
>>2116561A waste of time for losers. A true phantasy star fan comes sweating from work, pulls the credit card and swipes in support of the franchise.Gives items to the loyal cumsluts that makes him churn out babymaking batter daily.
>>2116609>Global had influence on a gams that wasnt even released to global
>>2116655how do we tell him
>>2116724
>>2116500guess you’re not as cute as you think sis
>>2116603all unattractive
Global died the moment we can't make loli
>>2116925sphere monsters > lolis
I can feel it...pso3 is coming with this game awards...true phantasy starts, now
>>2116749Those are characters for women to enjoy.
>>2116925it died because it attracted hoyotards like you who fit right in with open world slop who abandoned it soon after because one fomo is more than enough. and the chinese know how to cram it all in a limited 1 hour daily experience that actually gives exploration wonder, daily progression, tests of current strength and offline strategizing. ngs lost the open world cultural war before it even debuted and was dead on arrival.
and the reason why those open worlds were successful is because they kept introducing interesting and varied characters and playstyles to fill out the empty world. if there was only ngs on the table, they should have done literally anything else instead. it was never going to succeed.
Are we all moving to aion 2 next year?
>>2118197Just (You). I'm comfy playing the backlog.
>>2117611theyre ugly whether youre gay or female
>>2118232N-no you're not allowed to do that.....
>>2118249Which one do you think is the ugliest?
>>21183326 looks ok barely above avg t1 you can find everywherethe boys on 4 could at least pass for weird funny little gremlinsi wouldnt even take pity pictures with the rest
>>2118197fuck no
>>2118197why downgrade
>>2116516hypocrite if you wanted to talk about the game where's the ruine loser bingo? where's the jiggie.fun?https://bingobaker.com/#693b28b4aaceab8f
>>2118644>better openworld>better character creator>better fashion options>better combat>better dungeons>better pvp>better monetization??
>>2118676
>>2118732I guess we can checkbox not shutting the game down after a couple years. xD
>>2116727Cute ngl. Wouldnt mind to breed you
Post characters
nintendo fucked it up with prime 4 botw clone so badly that bamco took their original bike adventure idea that nintendo rejected and made it code vein 2. sega is now forced to evaluate actual anime games in their design process instead of everything botw that made phantasy star fail. so...win?
>>2118676isn't the pvp in aion 2 p2w though lol hahahahahahahaha
I win ngs everynight when i go to bed with my wifey
I got milked 3 times in the /v/ TGA sticky...
>>2119690Proof?
>>2119692he was the lolcow
>>2119692I don't want to prove it, but Im going in for the 4th
>>2119702this is why phantasy star will never appear at the game awards, because the community manager is a joke.https://archive.ph/EJZt2
>>2115915The camos are cool, partial to the Stardust Rod myself. It also gave us one of the best mags: Moogle.
>>2119702really hits deep
>>2119809like what in the godforsaken fuck is this. every pso2 episode trailer and visual iterated on itself and showcased a brand new class against a new threat as they travel across the stars against a cosmic threat. you can't build up the starless as a convincing threat if you use simcity as the only front image. pso2 didn't need to show ash constructing shit because social features are normally a given alongside content. this game has no content.
>>2119824its their master plan. by claiming that the starless ate every planet, and then introducing ruinus, they made a flimsy excuse why theres no point in space travel, despite the story writers and designers talking about the moon being named prison satellite gaera and zephetto mentioning that there are other rogue arks factions.the starless and ruinus aren't real enemies, they are just a hastily made excuse to shitcan the game after aegis and put the game on perpetual maint mode. thats why they will never be credible enemies, and even the shallowest players can tell that there was never any heart in designing them. this is why ngs has lost 99% of its players.
>>2119708they dont appear because they are trash compared to PSO which broke most standards for it's time.
why doesn't my >p2w>gacha>soft porn >"game" with no content for 4 years appear in the game of the year awards XDD
machi please.. more..
>>2120004ugly